>Japanese videogames have good writi-
>yuzushit
My ayase is very cute
My sister said this to me once, it's not unrealistic at all
>>727687235you'd praise this as good western writing if she was covered in tattoos, had a nose piercing and talked about her massive body count
that's westoid """""""""""""""localized"""""""""""""""""" writing.
>>727687464>you'd praise this if the image matched the content:o
>>727687235This is literally what its like when a girl loves you though
>pink hairThat's a dude
>>727687235That ain't japanese writing you faggot
>tfw a girl likes you
>>727687343Weird way of conveying that you have no taste and need to samefag>>727687630It applies to men too, no?>>727687464No, tattos may as well be a male repellent for political extremist women
>>727687758
>>727687235ng
>>727687235Unironically (unironically) this is god tier writing because it is completely clear on what the audience wants and delivers it without shame. You could not handle a paragraph of text like this better.
>>727688495>dicksdicksdicks Amazing
>>727688495but /v/ told me Japanese writing is superior...
>>727687235Looks like good writing to me thoughever
>>727687758>game is unrealistic
Choose (You)r fighter
>>727687235One of the better yuzuge girls, Amane from Tenshi is pretty nice too
>>727689121SMEEgods...
>>727688725I dont want my pinks to be this openly slutty
>>727688495Holy shit I can read this i'm gonna make it bos
>>727689121LeafBROS?
>>727689121minori is DEAD
>>727687235
>>727689706>grown woman>142cm
>>727689121>SMEE>Huge mammariesGood shitpost, Why is Azarisoft pure black?
>>727688725Everytime I read H-scenes, I always remember that someone had to read through all this, translate it faithfully and have it go through an editing process.
>>727690527Now imagine doing all this dirty stuff IRL like an animal. It's so shameful...
>>727690527>translate it faithfullylollmao even
>>727691105Translators to translate it faithfully. Everything you see is the localizers. Localizers are not translators, most dont even know Japanese.For an egregious example, Muramasa was translated like how it should've been with honorifics but all were removed by localizers and rewritten
>>727687630Really? I wouldn’t know
>>727687758>girl likes me >find out she's an alcoholic former literal whore who has AIDSIt's a feel alright
>>727687235>yuzutrash
>>727689121Giant balls on KEYLORDS for sure
>>727691290>Muramasa>I read about a cool maneuver a guy did in an airplane >let me go into his history and wank one of my characters doing the same (100% standard) move for like 15 minuteslollmao
Why do people call Yuzu games slop? I started reading Cafe Stella because the art was nice and it has actual 1080p resolution compared to older VNs and aside from the MC being a stereotypical VN pervert and all the women clearly being written by a guy without relationship experience it's not bad so far. >game features difficult moral dilemmas
>>727689121The latest (trannyslated) HOOKSOFT game is fucking trash, couldn't handle the MC acting like a total fucking sperg, like it's actually revolting.
>>727692043all the heroines are always blandthe stories are bland the "drama" is blandIt's just a nice shiny drawing on a sea of blandness They just squirt out 6/10s and I don't feel the passion of old moege from their stuff
Well nice thread you have here, would be a shame if I took it over and made it my thread too
>>727692253NTR coded
>>727692013
>>727692253>pick Yukino>half her route is about Runa>pick Runa>half her route is about Yukino
>>727689706kino
>>727692330and the >I am not good enough please be happy with my friend who loves youwas infuriating. I had to go play some good old fashioned Amagami to calm down
>>727692330That's why you should pick best girl's route instead
>>727689706Instant loss 2komas never stop being funny
>>727692204NTA but what Moeges should I read then?
>>727692464Kyo? Yeah >a whole route a about a fucking Godzilla movie
>>727692464>
>>727692538Golden Loveriche and the fandisk are real good
>>727692583>PIZZA PIZZA PIZZAShit taste
>>727692660pizza is better than a gay movie
>>727692538Nora to Oujo to Noraneko Heart 1 and 2 are fucking magic. Get the vita patched versions.
>>727692426>Amagamimy man, finally got around to playing the Vita version. About halfway done I didn't not like sexhair's route and thought the childhood friend was much better. Somehow, Kaoru's friendship route is better and more romantic than the love one for some fucking reason.
>>727692043>the omelet ricethats fucked up
>>727692784playing Octopath 0 right now but I grabbed both games and the patches and will give it a go after
>ENTER: THE YUZOKINO ANAL QUEEN
>>727687235that's not the japanese language, actually
>>727692538Under One Wing (r18)WW2 plane autismo with decent enough romance, I really liked it.
>>727692043>Why do people call Yuzu games slop?Probably because they are popular and follow a pretty standard formula. Yuzusoft is probably the industry leader for moege right now, so it's expected that contrarians might call it slop
>>727692043They're fine, some people are just retarded and expect moege's to not be slice of life with nothing going on besides cute girls. Not the biggest fan of them either, I prefer my games with big tiddy oneesan's but that's an entirely different matter.
>Play Yuzo game>Every single sex scene is blowjob, 69, missionary, or doggy. Not even anal or other positionsBruh
Yuzusoft deserves the slop moniker because it's fully being carried by art style, high res textures and voice acting, and the occasional decent girl.Story and route structures are the same since I can remember
>>727687343sorry you would prefer nog worship and ntr
>>727694138>massive projection, brings up NTR and niggers out of left field lmao yuzushitters
>>727693862faggot
I read yuzuge for my heart.
Modern moege are more unrealistic than a chuunige about a giant reality warping robot
>>727694465Do that many people really care about realism in moege of all things?
>>727694546No. He's just being a dishonest faggot.I do agree we need more chuunige, what the fuck is NITRO+ doing
>>727694546verisimilitude matters for moege more than other genres
>>727694625Probably making a gacha
>>727694625making BL games for fujos who actually buy shit unlike you and your unwashed cohorts
>>727694715I'm doing my part and buying BA pakeji to stimulate the VN economy
>>727694661How many moege feature used goods?
>>727689121>when my pig isn't even on the chart
>>727695038If you buy the censored version, none.
>>727694715>making BL games for fujos who actually buy shit>this is actually what happenedfeels bad
>>727694546Riddle Jokers scenes were all complete vanilla. Only good route was the main heroine. Sad
>>727687235I want to jerk off with her braids
>>727689168>AmaneNo she's not, she's just not shit like the rest of the girls
>>727692043Because they are poorly written VNs with average at best heroines and bland self-insertMCs. They just have a higher production value and a rabid fanbase
I enjoy plotge with good romances. More moe or more chuuni doesn't matter much to me as long as that first condition is met. Hilko is my wife.
>>727689121I have no idea what any of this is.
>>727689798All women should stop growing at 142cm.
>shitting on Yuzuge ITTWow, didn't know Azarashi Soft had so many loyal warriors on /v/.
>>727687235If the whole world read VN's daily would everyone become smarter or dumber?How about if everyone read books?
>>727696468nah more like you don't know what /vn/ was like before the pathetic stye it is right now.
>>727696584Dumber.Books?Smarter.Both?Immensely smarter.
>tfw your irrelevant cunt gets mentioned in a VN
>>727687906Always amazes me that George was considered comically fat in the 90's when today he would be considered buff and easily in the top 20% of men.
I have had sex before. Can I still enjoy visual novels?
>>727697007Yes but probably not pure love ones since your illusion is already ruined.
>>727696668I didn't know this studio could make girls that weren't titty monsters.
>>727697007Yes but you have to control past the majority of scenes
>>727697081Variety is the spice of life after all. Though personally I didn't like the flatty the most, the imouto was the best (as always).
>>727697162I played Muv Luv and had to skip through the sex scenes because the dialogue was so bad.>>727697062Rude.
>>727696584>>727696657The most popular kinds of books which people actually read are trash on same level as a typical VN, if not even lower.That said, a world where everyone reads either books or VNs is already a much smarter world than the real one, based purely on the level of functional literacy that would be required.
>>727692538Santaful Summer
>>727696468Moege in general are shit and yuzuge are no different
>>727698185>based purely on the level of functional literacy that would be required.Very few VNs require above an Elementary school level of literacy. This is especially true for the garbage moebutas consume.
>>727689121damn niggas can't even read kana
>>727699347My honest reaction.
>>727699394That's one big buta
>>727694138This but unironically
>>727687630No it isn't. Women hate sex and they only agree to it when there's something in it for them, usually money, a nice house, and the free retirement plan that is having kids.
>>727700304What a roundabout way of saying you're a virgin.
>>727687464>every Dispatch Invisigal thirst thread be like
>when the VN makes a really good point
>>727702262Shut the fuck up Ikuko you're a fun character but I don't want to fuck you
>>727701475I refuse to be gold dug.
>>727702262>good pointNah, I knew a slut who moved from guy to guy, but she actually believed she was in love with each one, until she wasn't. It's not "she chose you because you are special" it's "you're this weeks obsession".
>>727687235That's some pretty funny writing desu
>>727702262Purity in women is treasured by men for a reason.
www
>>727687235Ha ha... but seriously guys, who hasn't been there? You're just trying to chill and your girl comes up to you like this... ha ha...
>>727702958JOPs aren't welcome here
>>727702958come back JOP you're welcome again
>>727703259
>>727703104
>>727687758>girl likes me>it's a 60+ year old grannyevery time, what does it mean?
>>727701475A retard is not much better than a virgin desu
>>727693370Yuzu is really dropping the ball with buttsluts. They're one of the few moeges where the girl actually doesnt say she likes it up her pussy better. But when it comes to yuzubuttsluts, the drakuriot wins
>>727702262>the true love in question
>>727703606>>727693370Fuck off. Sodomy is disgusting
>>727703747especially anal sodomy
>>727693370qrd?
>>727703747anime girl butts are pure
>>727702958lamao eks dee
>>727687235No one has ever said this
>>727691705You can save her
>>727687235What does she say in the Japanese version? NN can do some questionable translations
>>727702958ハハハ
>>727687235>>727689706So, what, the gimmick is that your girlfriend is a slut but passes out before you can even stick it in?>>727693370>YUZOKINO ANAL QUEENI require more information.
>>727704724>>>YUZOKINO ANAL QUEEN>I require more information.>>727704251
>>727696770what fucking world are you living in?????
>one (1) piss scene in senren banka>everything else is vanillaslop
>>727694138>yuzuslop gets criticized>yuzucel immediately brings up blacked ntr
>>727705036Thanks, will look into it sometime later.
we love yuzuscat
>>727687235All yuzu games would be better if they were yuri.
>>727705594shes a cute girl that complete rot her brain through with otome porn.
>>727705217so true these yuzucels need to learn from us nitroxisters
>>727706032muramasa chadsthis is OUR thread nowthis post was made by the nitro+gang
>>727692043Low stakes story and nothing ever happens in yuzusoft games. However, played a few high stakes vn and there is always some kind of ntr faggotry involved
>>727687235I want more gaijin heroines
Reminder
>>727706574isn't this a localization of Meguru referring to herself in third person?
>>727699394how did you get this picture of me wtf
Why is learning Japanese so hard /v/ros... I just want to read JOP kamige
>>727706879It's not quick but keep in mind that anyone can learn a language as long as you stay motivated. Keep your goal in mind and work to get there at your own pace.
>>727706879hope you don't consider yuzushit JOP kamige
>>727688495ORE WA OCHINCHIN GA DAISUKI DA YO
>>727707314starting this game today, heard it has incest
>>727696304damn, my second vn i read ever, choudenki chads itt. I also read that studio's other one that had to do with alchemy and homunculus stuff
>>727702958What are we reading, JOPgods?
>>727707323Aren't most of them already translated aside from the one that came out this year?
>>727687235Yuzusoft is so fucking trash.
>see yuzu thread>go inside and seethe what shade of brown to you have to be to do this
>>727707465I liked it, some things I found a bit mixed but overall worth the read.>>727707609Reading Imokano right now, not even through the first route (it's a long game) but I can't see this having a happy end. Every alarm bell is ringing and every red flag raised with the lookalike girl.
>>727707609Mahoyo (it's almost Christmas, so it felt appropriate).
>>727708038>what shade of brownnitrotroons, the darkest shade
>>727707314I've been trying best to learn but I only started a few months ago and I'm rather impatient
>>727689706>grown woman
>>727701475women hate sex. Cry about it on reddit.
>>727687235i don't care if it's good it appeals to me so i buy it, i'll buy every yuzusoft title until the end of time and there's nothing you can do to stop me
>>727708507Continue to eat that slop piggy
Why don't you read something good, like Muv-Luv or Clannad?
>>727708985Yuzusoft games are good. They're the leaders of the moege genre for a reason
>>727708985I read them already
>>727708507Based moeGOD
>>727709118they're leaders of moege because most moege sucks dick + chinks dig yuzuge
>>727709118Stop equating popularity with quality. The best moeges aren't even made by them
>>727706879>>727707314>been at it for a year>while watching a jap video I can sort of make out what they're saying even though I wouldnt be able to give a translation, its just a strange mixture of gutfeel and picking up certain phrasesMaybe my brain is breaking and Im imagining things, but I get the feeling I might be eventually able to learn jap. Just another year of practice and Im sure Ill understand it better
>>727708985>something good>like Clannadrofllmao
>>727709118I doubt they're on the same level as Key>>727709414Yeah, they're made by Key, which ironically ARE the most popular as well
How are the japs handling the inflow of western piggus into the eroge market? Do they still hate them or is the lure of sweaty autismbux too great?
>>727709664Nobody makes or reads eroge anymore. Gachas replaced everything.
Plotfags are honest to god the funniest bunch, they hate moefags because their shit is 100 times more popular than things they read yet plotfag will never touch anything outside of top20 of vndb. Ironic.
>>727709664I mean the people who actually purchase these games are pretty much the same as them. It's not like they're demanding change since they just want the companies to do what they do while offering their products in English.
>>727709741
>>727709873>v17153wait a minute, that's a high school student
>various dishes>literature referenceslike who the fuck knows this shit?it's like the author went to wikipedia and randomly copy pasted some obscure shit to the game
>>727709802nobody cares, butaread your gay same store about your gay same archetypes for the 500th time
>>727708985already did. What now Einstein?
>>727708507>I will fund slop so only slop gets made but I am still outspent 50:1 by yumejoshi and fujoshi so haha joke's on mewe know
>>727705217What moege do you like?
For me, it's Orcsoft
>>727709664VNs are a dying market in nipland, so weeaboo autismbux is probably the only thing keeping them going.
>>727687235That writing isn't unrealistic at all though, my teenager BPD girlfriend would say stuff like that to me all the time. She'd be hopping on my dick 3 times a day whenever she came over and it honestly got really tiresome.
>>727689121Pulltopbros.....
>>727690918>>727690527Sexting always looks so cringe to me whenever I see people's conversations leaked. I could never imagine myself saying any of those things without jumping off a window from shame.Maybe that's why I'm still a virgin.
>>727691290>but all were removed by localizers and rewrittenWhere did you learn this exactly?
>>727688495this is what women think when they're ovulating unironically
>>727713242How did we lose the battle bros?
>>727712893So, the nihonjin have fallen to the evils of gacha, I guess another commodore perry has to stand up and save them from themselves.
>>727706574Best girl
>>727713242>>727714014>20th anniversary project got canned a couple months backKono Oozora and Miazora are some of my favorite moege. I hope they arent doing bad financially but the shift to making all-ages low budget games makes me think the opposite.
>>727714687It's funny they made Nene the main girl with an extra route, only to have both japs and westerners prefer the superior meguru
>>727714240I hate how alice soft games will be all wacky and goofy light hearted semi comedy for like 99% of the game and then randomly have horrific disgusting shit pop out of nowhere like a girl getting boiling water poured down her vagina or someone getting gangraped unto a coma
>japanese translation: N-no I don't like you, baka
>>727689121where is akabeisoft
>>727714895Entire industry is stagnating. Even former tent poles like Muv-Luv can't get the funding to finish the story. IIRC the guys at age were so desperate they were considering using AI images. What's the last time a VN had mainstream appeal? Steins;Gate?
>>727715653How would you save the industry, bros?
>>727714918Honestly I dislike most of alicesoft and it's annoying they're such a dominant player in the eroge market. I don't like reference humor, RPG mechanics being actual real things in the lore (rather than just an abstraction) or breaking the 4th wall. And they do that constantly. Then they waste a ton of CG on rapeshit while also having vanilla porn. So regardless of which one you like, you only have half the content to enjoy. Evenicle also drops the ball on you actually banging your harem. The game text constantly implies you have wild orgies, but 99% of the scenes is 1 on 1 sex with one of your girls.
>>727714895VNs are niche and gacha is bleeding them hard. The audience of young adults in the city buying niche porn games isnt replaced.
>>727708378>says she's a grown woman>is voiced by a grown womanI think we need to start accepting small girls exist, and in fact it's possible the VA is close to the character's proportions
>>727715791Probably controversial but>move away from high school as the default settingI know nips are obsessed with youth and think being an adult is the first level of hell, but there's only so many cultural festivals and hot springs excursions you can read through.
>>727714895>the shift to making all-ages low budget games makes me think the opposite.I noticed this when Feng started making low priced single/double heroine games with the Seiiki series. They tried one last time to make a full priced game like their previous, traditional games, didnt sell well enough and then closed up shop shortly after.
>>727715791You really can't. VNs require you to sit down and read and we are facing people with a falling attention rate and also literacy rate.
>>727715653Manosaba was pretty big.
>>727716110I think more games need to do timeskips like how toneworks did it. Start with a introduction in High School and getting together with the heroine in High School and then jump forward to when they are young adults and showcase how the relationship has matured or moving into the next phase.
Not my problem. I only play kinoge.
>>727687235This is literally what BG3 writing is like
>>727715791It's impossible, some things just go out of style. People are blaming gacha, but vtubers and other otaku culture has also played a major part. At least the stuff that has been made won't go anywhere, unless you become unable to find it.
>>727715653Nukitashi, Manosaba, Amakano,The industry is being squeezed out because gacha has much lower production costs and higher profits.
>>727716763>because gacha has much lower production costsThat's nonsense, they have far higher production costs, but the potential return is massive, though it is a gamble.
>>727716763I think the most important thing that gacha is taking is the next generation of eroge writers/authors
>>727715791Make more interesting stories, I dunno.Less padding.
Can you EMOniggers fuck off to gacha threads with your bitching about gacha and muh industry? This is moeKINO thread for moe enjoyers, not rent free gacha therapy session for lil bitches.
>>727716763Gacha doesn't have lower production costs, it just has a lot more profit potential than a one-time purchase.That being said eroge studios seem to have problems with releasing gachas, at least the adult-only ones.
>>727717280>>727715791>>727716747Gacha and liveservice shit has taken the world by storm, but I think there will be a shift back to people wanting the full experience of actual visual novels with real presentation again.
>>727717280LNs as well. A few eroge writers I follow only do lightnovel work now.
>>727716763>>727716428Those are popular visual novels, not visual novels with mainstream popularity. VNs need a mega hit that has actual cultural significance.
>cultural significance
>>727717884VNs might just need to aim for higher product quality, simple unmoving pictures ain't going to do it anymore.
>>727715653Muv-Luv was finished 19 years ago, they're out of money because you can only scam people with low quality plagiarized trash for so long. Would have been broke decade ago if Sekai Project hadn't shown them how to scam westerners.
>>727717565shut your mouth nobody likes moe, we're discussing gacha now
>>727689979Brown booty.
>>727718092
>>727716952Individual girls are a lot lower cost though. It's like those VNs where they make a unique VN for every girl rather than putting multiple girls in 1.
>>727718009Cost already went up with higher resolution for VNs. I dont think animation pays off. It'll either be cheap (like those moving mouths some VNs try) or itll be super expensive because you need to animate a longass VN.
>>727716952>>727717584I'm talking about the perspective of the game's duration.Many successful gachas function in conglomerates.It's comparable to Pokémon. Only the games don't generate the profits and production of the big brand. It includes merchandising, marketing, TV series, collaborations, and various other things.The game itself is a very small part of the actual production.>>727717884Hard to tell. The only recent examples I can think of with large productions are Tsukihime and Mahoyo. The industry needs to take big leaps to get close to major productions like Sakura Taisen, but as I said before, anything runs into the gacha barrier.
>>727717995THERE WAS A TIMEWHEN EVERY SECOND ANIMEWAS A VN ADAPTATIONAND ALL WAS RIGHT WITH THE WORLD
>>727718463Most adaptations were shit anyway. We still get a random good one sometimes like Summer Pockets.
>>727687758>>tfw a girl likes you
>>727687235one time a former coworker in her 40s (I was 34) took me to her apartment and showed me her sex toys collection, she also let me fuck her. She was nasty in a good way but it's the kind of woman they are thinking of when they say don't put your dick in crazy.
>Summer Pockets
>>727718425VN series also had merchandise. You had anime (pic related, it looked that cheap so they could make money off of diehard fans), premium boxes, dakis and figurines. The difference with gacha is that with gacha, you can make small bits for individual girls, then expand on the girls that do well. It's like making a VN, but you can milk popular girls, and waste only a minimal of resources on the girls that don't get any traction.
>>727718463Bunch of low budget shit with some exceptions. Most golden age VNs didn't have adaptations. Cultural significance lmao.
>>727716763Japs need to step their game up when this is winning
everyday im joppin
>>727718609>she also let me fuck herWas it good? And was it worth it?
>>727718830>golden age VNsThe golden age was the PC-98
>>727718998>one (1) good vnno
>PC-98Can't wait to watch legendary YU-NO anime from 90s!EVE burst error anime was my favorite.
>>727718463Is every second anime being an isekai LN adaptation better or worse?
>>727719469Better.
>>727719305>>727719090Platinum age, actually
>>727687758>girl likes me>but only in high school when I was an autistic fuck
>>727718936
>>727718463People forget that LNs put them on life support before gacha was even in the picture. (and before ex-VN writers doing harem LNs got replaced by web novels)
>>727714918That 1% puts into perspective the value of the 99%.
>>727720229Yeah, gashit isn't entirely to blame. It's just one factor of many. I also think the popularity of steam during covid is speedrunning the nip exodus to PC as the main gaming console and that's killing the market share for VNs.
>>727720429But most VNs are made for PC?
>>727713596The editor/localizer for FMD made a lot of controversial tweets about it, their twitter is protected now though but you can see it in the bio, ignore the "translator" part, the translator was a different personhttps://x.com/moogy0https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/pjjs6s/its_an_older_tweet_but_the_editor_of_full_metal/You can see some of the reactions here at least but basically the translated script had honorifics but Moogy hates them and also long vowels (Sato instead of Satou)
>>727720429The ideal resolution would just be get VNs on Steam, but the problem is that it's pretty much random what will get hit by Steam banning it or accepting it.
>>727720502I haven't had to think about this retard in years why would you do this to me
>>72772048390% of games are on PC now, that's the point.
>>727720636someone asked
>>727720657Supposedly the Japango PC gaming market is actually way down overall despite the increasing number of Steam users presumably because the VN market entirely imploded and that was the entire thing except for FFXI and PSO2 players.
>>727718730The discussion started going in circles. Although I searched for some data, there is not much on the internet to prove either point.There are games with absurd productions such as Genshin Impact and the GTA anime Ananta, but it's not something that intersects much with the Visual Novels genre.>>727718846Japan cannot compete, and they know it. The only consolation is that this style of anime still survives largely thanks to Japanese voice acting. Other languages, such as Chinese and Korean, cannot be accepted by the vast majority.
>>727696468Translation status?
>>727720787Interesting. I guess consoles are still by and large cheaper for the average consumer. Steam sales aren't even that good anymore compered to shit you can pick up in a bargain bin 6 months after release.
>>727720429Why is that a problem? Most VNs were for PC, with an all ages version on console. More nips using a PC should increase the potential consumerbase for porn games. Steam allowing porn also opened up the western userbase. (even if steam then started to ban school uniforms).>>727720846QRD on that VN?>>727720984VNs can run on a toaster, you dont need a gaming PC to be able to play VNs.
>>727720502Understood. I need to learn Japanese.
>>727720502I can't believe Full Metal Deeznuts was sabotaged like that.
>>727721194You're not looking at it holistically. People aren't looking for a dedicated VN machine, they're looking for a everything machine. It's like Eden - maybe you're happy eating from the Tree of Life, but the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge is right there, and look how cheap it is.
>>727721194>QRD on that VN?Vanilla kino
>>727687235What's the issue?
>>727718986yeah, she was a whore in bed
Name a more kino moment in a vn. You can't.
>>727699394moebuta GOD
>>727721809easy
>>727687436AIN'T NO WAY
>>727721809
>>727722135Why is she old.
>>727720502>Moogy hates them and also long vowelsI know he was a huge faggot but this level of faggotry is truly unbelievable.
>>727722424curse goes brrr
>>727687235Most of VN has middle-school level of writing. They're worse than young adult novels.
>>727720502Moogy was right.
>>727722734All video games have middle-school level of writing. They're worse than young adult novels.
>>727722135I was too busy fucking Sumi to care about her.
>JOPge posting
>>727723139It do be like that
>>727715653Saya no Uta, Kara no Shoujo, Subahibi, and Totono are extremely popular among edgy girls the past couple of years somehow.
>>727714918A comically evil world makes the protagonist's morally questionable actions more palatable in comparison. Rance can rape women left and right but as long as his opponents want to murderapekill humanity he gets a pass.
>>727717884Unironically, DDLC and NSO.
>>727692043>Why do people call Yuzu games slopNobody does. They have been the most popular moege for years for a reason. Don't mind the contrarians.
>>727687758This shit's always annoying as hell.
>>727721809This was my first VN
>>72772292310 years ago, I've been said that moege are very good to learn Japanese since the writing style was very simple. And they were very right, and most of them are quite boring, 2bh.
>>727719469much of a muchness
>nip vns are dying>meanwhile dispatch sold more copies than all jap vns released this yearThat's just embarassing.
>>727724892>something heavily shilled by the western va clique and western journalists was marketed heavier than a normal eroge vn that would likely get banned on steam because some tranny got butthurt over how youthful and attractive the heroines were.Is this meant to be profound or are you just retarded?
>>727725404Shilling is irrelevant if there isn't a market for it. Also who said anything about eroge?
>>727725404It's meant to be bait
>>727725552Ah, so he's retarded, got it
AI will save VNs
>>727724892>10h of storyas much as I'd like more games like dispatch, 10h of story isn't long to develop anything substantial but normalcattles will still eat it up because normalcattles
>>727720694>>727720636you now remember Daiz
>>727722406is he going to dick that one too
>>727725848Nah unfortunately he's far harder to forget about.
These aren't games
>>727725552>>727725840The market exists, japs are too stuck in their ways to go for it. Instead of heavily pushing for high production dating sims in the west they sit on their asses pandering to their nonexistent jap market.
>>727724892If dispatch was made by japs it would be banned for having wet dream scene tho>Quin69 streamed Dispatch 2 days ago>called it mid because no sex scenes, no routes with different girls >married and have 4 childrenThe market is here. But woketards will never approve japanese eroge even if it was like Dispatch.
>>727687235>Japanese videogames have good writingLiterally no-one ever has said this
>>727724892doesn't count
>>727726229There are no genitalia or nipples shown, it's technically sfw.
>>727725848I don't think spreading this image ever did anything to help stop him
>>727726589He is more bald now. It works.
Opinions on Katawa?
>>727726858I only finished Hanako's route back in old days. It was fine.
>>727726940A below average route. You're missing out on the good stuff.
>>727724892I honestly don't mind they are getting more and more niche after the irreparable damage Nekopara did to the industry to be honest. Less catering to mainstream normie shit is a good thing for me since I like some sick shit.
>>727726195vn is dating sim you retard. If you meant copying dispatch then you are beyond reason and this is bait
VNs are too low effort for me to enjoy. and the music in them always suck. just read manga like a normal person
>>727727118A vn where you can date girls is not the same as a dating sim. The latter has time management, gifts, etc.
>>727727197No one wants because the writing quality will suffer. Nips have done that before and it doesnt stick so that is only vn and gachashit are still standing>amagami>whtie album 1
>>727719469LN adaptations are better than VN adaptations because they don't completely butcher and rape the source material.Plus there's more of a point to LN adaptations. Most VNs are near-fully voice acted, have more detailed art and backgrounds, and have music.LNs are just words with the occasional picture.
>>727727185We know that reading comprehension is very hard for zoomnoids these day because tiktok brainrot but you don't need to show off your mental retardation and down syndrome, ok sweety? there is already a board specially made to cater for you >>>/a/
>>727727583LN adaptations 90% of the time are glorified ads that cover a book or two and then never receive a second season.
I don't know how VN is dying when I'm seeing an epidemic of girls being into moe and drawing a lot of moe illustrations that goes viral once a month... They typically likes these VN >>727723540 (mostly for that y2k degenerate internet culture).You, guys, are just out of touch.
>>727724892You are retarded, shithead zoomer
>>727718463I remember watching the Utawarerumono and Kanon anime during the same anime season or something...those were the days...
>>727727710For most LNs, all the good parts happen in the first couple volumes.
>>727727728everyone who worked in the vn industry has shifted to the gacha industry, look at what they did to muvluv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0VA0np-k6E
>>727727728Roasties trying to leech off otaku culture? I've never seen such a thing before. You're telling me this for the first time.
>>727727654what?
>kinos your writing
>>727687758>be 29yo>meet relative's little sister >obviously likes me>she's 14>feign ignorance and cluelessness at family meetings
>>727726229Coomer69
>>727687235HOLY SHIT BASED BASED BASED!!!!!!!! (i never had sex)
>anons who don't paly VNs are talking about VNsI miss moebutas.Save us, JOPGOD!
>>727727916It's now trendy, tho.
>>727728325going off your pic you don't play VNs either, retardhalf finished quick cashgrab lmao
>>727728184Aussie b fucked in dey head
>>727724892>nip vns are dyingAll the VN writers got bought out by the gacha industry. They either get hired to write on another IP or the only way they get their project funded is to have it turn into a gacha.
>>727725848
>>727692043>>727692204I've tried and dropped S*B, RJ and CS all because the MCs had no personality beyond being occasionally quirky.I know it's a bit manichaean, but if I have to turn my brain off to enjoy something, I just feel like I'm wasting my time.And that's not a moege thing. Aokana, Daitoshokan and others don't have this issue.
>>727728454No, lol. Gacha are low budget visual novel written by mid writers
>>727727185Unfortunately, the people that buy VNs don't care about unique art. So they will happily spend dozens of hours looking at the same small set of pngs.
>>727728519>that
>>727728583>what is Heaven Burns Red
>>727687591>you're only allowed to say certain things if you're dressed appropriately!
>>727728520I don't really like moege these days either (used to like it when I was younger) but I did also like Aokana. Fake sport was pretty interesting even if I thought the MC's "trauma" was dumb and gay like most of these stories tend to bePink the best
>>727728454>All the VN writers got bought out by the gacha industry.ok so why doesn't a single VN have a decent plot?
>>727728652Maeda left Key years ago and Key still releases games without him
@727728381>half finishedEpisodic storytelling. Doesn't affect overall enjoyment.>quick cashgrab lmaoDelusional lowercase nigger. No other VN can compete with such level of production values.
Every single gacha has a worse story than VNs due to being live service.The art is worse either being live 2d or shit where only the characters expressions change but never their poses.They are worse on every level.
>so assmad he did the tranny passive agressive "reply without quoting" shitfucking little bitch kek>..i...it's...e..episodic....(please ignore that is all we will get)lmaololand this retard mistakes new Takeuchi drawings for "high production values" when the action are the usual static pictures with quick cuts and zero animation at allDo you even play other VNs? Retard wouldn't know 'high production value' if it slapped him across the face with a penis
>>727728454>>nip vns are dyingAnd that's a GOOD thingWrite a book or make a game, don't sell a fifty page novel and pretend it's a game
>>727728903>The art is worse eitherNow this is real bait.
I must say I was really disappointed by Subahibi. It turned out to be much more... generic, I suppose, than I had imagined. Didn't help that it was memed to hell amongst people who probably never even played it.
>>727728963>muh booksGarbage
>Takeuchi drawings>MahoyoThis lowercase shartynigger is funny.
>>727718730heh this post's thumbnail lines up with the thumbnail of the image about it
>>727729012conjueror played it
>if I namedrop sharty (I don't know what that is btw) people will think I belong hereit's 2025, nobody cares where you came from on this shithole, dumb fuck troon
>>727723228>mashifoni>JOPgeDon't be like that Shingy
>>727729012>he fell for the "just live happily" meme lol, should have dropped in the first 1h
>>727728984>Should we have characters poses change?>No just change the face sprite who cares
>>727729028And that's fine, I don't care for book either, that's why I hate VNs (failed books) taking up space in the gaming sphere
>troonTry harder shartykek. You glows.
VNs are alive and well, dont believe the gachacuck lieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCfOuEAG8h8
>>727729012you probably just didnt get it and thats okay
>the retard crying about people not knowing VNs was a gacha secondary who, shocker, doesn't play VNsThis is my surprised face. I am surprised.
>>727729167>>727728984AmaKINO rapes fgo in the artistic and animation department btw
>>727729216real ESL hours
>>727729012>I must say I was really disappointed by SubahibiThey are really good at tricking people into reading it I will admitkek
So this is the power of Gacha writing...
>>727729167Did you play any VNs anon? Gacha have best illustrators and live 2d animations. 99% of VN art is mediocre and a lot good VN artists do gacha now. If anything the visual, CG quality in gacha is very good.
>>727727654You're trying way too hard
>>727727876That isn't made by VN developers, age ran themselves out of the industry through sheer incompetence and scumfuckery. (meanwhile sayori dipped on that mess to work on her own doujin IP and became one of the only industry success stories of the last decade)
>>727729360>you have to patch the dogsex back in or you're missing important plot and subtleties about the author's intent
>>727729230No, I wanted more mindfuck and got just barely mild mindfuck instead. Same reason I was disappointed with KKKK
>>727687758>>727728141Similar thing happened to me, but it was thankfully when I was like 12.>12 y/o>deadbeat older cousin (like 30) comes to live with us for a bit>bring his daughter, who's 10 y/o>given their living situation, I was practically the only boy her age that she got to really know>pretty much just followed me around, kept trying to do things like sleep in my room, pull me away from video games to talk to her, that kind of thing>left with her deadbeat dad two months later, never saw her againThere was no doujinshi type "And then X happened" stuff, I was just a weirded out kid because my cousin was clearly way, way too into me
>>727729291Real ESL hours.
>>727729412Yeah when they actually have CG's 1% of the time. The overall presentation is worse, and the overall pacing of the stories is worse.
>>727729220This>300k sold>multiple new projects in development
>>727729481Must have hit the bullseyes if it made you reply kwab. You wouldn't care if it doesn't apply to you
>>727729551yeah, that's what I said you retarded ESL newfag
>>727729617You're trying way too hard
>>727729593it doesn't mean anything if they go broke shitting out infinite Hiros
>>727729648https://dictionary.cambridge.org/grammar/british-grammar/punctuation*Yeah, that's what I said, you retarded ESL newfag.
>>727729501they also made a previous gacha that failed that everyone has forgotten about now because of the success of the new one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z80cSs2y2t0
>>727729668Made a compelling argument instead of just >no u zoomnoid, you are an embarrassment and a failure to your education system
>>727729869You're trying way too hard
>>727729593>all-agesHard pass.
>>727720502>muh honorificsMoogy is far more trustworthy than the typical retard on /v/ honestly. Same with Daiz (most people don't even know that the Daiz checklist is entirely a meme, so it needs to be said). The funniest part is that you link a post where, according to the first comment, the OP is getting mad about how moogy alluded to the idea of someone editing things to suit their tastes, something they explicitly said they were not doing immediately after.Back when moogy's blog was a thing as well, he had some good TL editorials, like the translation difficulty ranking.
>>727729823ESL-kun, this is an image board. It's never had people starting posts with capitals nor posts ending in punctuation. I understand you are new here and ChatGPT did not explain this to you.The reason you were called an ESL is because of this post>>727729216endless buzzword spam is the realm of the brown person, and 'you glows' was meant to be 'you glow'. These errors are also typical of an ESLI hope this helps (no punctuation needed here unless desired due to internet writing customs and practices)
>>727729823you glows
>>727729823>grammar naziing on 4chan of all placesI think you'll do best to return to where you came from, most likely Reddit
>>727729838Like 4 of them, plus the awful "real video games" that finally made avex decide that it couldn't hurt to try having someone else do something with this tire fire IP they got conned into owning. That art is from the second one that recycled heavily from the first one.
>ESL-kun, this is an image board. It's never had people starting posts with capitals nor posts ending in punctuationLOL sharty tourist newfag. The people you should avoid are those who speak in faux-apathetic lowercase at all times. To be clear, I'm not talking about people who speak without grammar in game in order to get their messages out faster. I'm talking about those who sit down to compose an image board post with all the time in the world and willfully choose to omit punctuation and capitalization. They are not doing this to save time. In fact, they may take additional time to redact habitual grammar from their posts.Their motivation for this style of posting is simple. They are trying to present an aura of apathy. They want to communicate: "I don't care about anything, least of all the rules of grammar." The reason they work so hard to cultivate this image of emotional invulnerability is because they are, in actual fact, extremely emotional and unstable people. If you become close to them you will catch glimpses of the volatility lurking beneath their patchwork mask of cool indifference. The lowercase poster will silently catalog transgressions you have in its eyes committed. You will only become aware of them during the rare tantrum blowups that characterize these people. They must be avoided for your own good. The faux-apathetic lowercase posters really could not be more pathetic.
>>727730147>I think you'll do best to return to where you came from, most likely RedditI've been on 4chan since 2007
223didnt read lmao
>>727721809I won't lie, I skipped through this entire route so I could unlock the route with the buttsex cat fairy.
Are VNs more popular now, or in the 2010's outside of Japan?Katawa Shoujo and DDLC magnified the niche, in the 2010's. So far, Needy Streamer Overload magnified the denpa niche which is heavily tied to VNs, in the fiesta half of 2020's.
>>727730224no, no I don't think you have
I just finished Onee-chan no Yuuwaku and now I feel empty.Empty because I know nothing has or will ever top it.
>>727730262Meant to >>727730223
>>727730223>wall of assmad textI am not reading thatlol!
>>727730356first* half
>>727730356they are past their peak already, but you can argue those popular chink gachas people play are basically vns
i love typing in lowercase and responding to people without quoting their post number because it makes people mad
same same
>>727730424Try https://luvvoice.com
no thanks
>>727730416>artist doesn't even draw for porn games anymoreit's over
>>727719305>EVE burst error anime was my favorite.God I wish, an EVE Burst Error anime would rock
oh nowhat will we do without porn from generic artist #501221320
>>727730385insecure about coming here as an election tourist?lol
things for the nip vn industry got especially worse once covid hit, it's crazy how so many veteran companies died since then
>>727731041you accidentally put a question mark when that was a statement
>>727731189you accidentally forgot to kill yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QkTS_AaMiIBring me back...
>>727720502>hates honorificsEh, that's common, it could be w>and also long vowels (Sato instead of Satou)Burn this nigger at the stake, fucking scum cunt asshole
>>727730635>>727730510
>>727692464
Why is everyone at each other's throats in a thread about dating cute anime girls?
>>727731705
>>727731705Is it your first day on the Internet, anon?
>>727731845Not on the internet, but yes I first came to 4chan tonight.
Should I read island
never seen a newfag admit they are a newfag
>>727731705Tradition >>727721809
>>727732067Maybe.
>>727687235How do I get a gf like this
>>727732281Get a going into VNs machine
>>727731705I'd assume that those anons talk about dating cute anime girls a lot. When anons talk about the same thing a lot I find they get more opinionated about it.
manga > anime > light novels > live action adaptations > visual novels > vtubers > gacha
Stupid nigger.
>>727732472>live action slop above anything other than maybe gachaKill yourself kikeflix shill
>>727732472>vtubersHow do those fit into that, just as a general thing you dislike? I'm not aware of like, an official Fate/GO vtuber or some shit
>>727730356I like fiesta half better
>>727732726>vtranny madlol lmao
>>727732472>>727732472No, its light novels > anime > manga > visual novels > vtubers > live action adaptations gacha
>>727732472if you don't like vtubers and gacha you're not an otaku
>>727731484When did this get translated
>>727733072>if you dont like [utter dogshit]
visual novels (finished story) > manga (ongoing for two decades) > gacha (ongoing until EoS, unique settings) > light novels (ongoing for two decades, isekai or romcoms) > live action adaptations (soap opera acting) > anime (shitty 24min per ep format, 12 ep adaptations of 30 hours long manga and 20 volumes long manga, low quality).
>>727732756vtuber companies don't really adapt stuff, they make original characters then get adapted into other media
how do you read doujins these days if you don't like gacha or vtubers. that's like 99% of all stuff now
>>727729593Where is the translation? My EOP friends don't want to play or learn japanese.
>>727733461>when you can only draw faces from one direction
>>727733508it's AI...
>>727733418original h-manga, and people can fap to doujins even if they don't know the original work it is based on
>>727733540AI wouldn't get the amount of fingers on a hand right that many times
>>727722135
>>727733418I have nothing against gacha or vtubers. They're drawings for me.
>>727733461Soon. We know Acacia are working on it but no clue when it'll be done.
>>727733298So it doesn't fit at all into the ranking, got it
>>727731238I'm not your parents with you as my failure progeny THOUGH
>>727733418As he says >>727733759 but specifically you enjoy them more the less you know about them.
>>727721809Doesn't get much more kino than this:https://files.catbox.moe/mntdx4.PNG
>>727732837>vtubers weren't even relevant to the discussion>still had to include his seethe over themObsessed
>>727732472light novels > jrpgs > manga > gacha > anime > visual novelsno zone: vtubers, live action adaptation, video game adaptation
>>727733948I HATE THIS
>>727734007>>vtubers weren't even relevant to the discussionThat's the entire fucking point you colossal mongrel
>>727733948>ah shit fuck cock shit fuckWhat elaborate vocabulary
>>727734242Then why bring them up?
>>727733820huh?
>want to play anime games because anime girls are hot>VNs are boring as fuck
>>727734464Yeah I'd like to know that too
>>727732756>how does this anime girls media format fit into a ranking of anime girl media formatsretard
>>727734784ADHD
>>727734880Bro thinks a glorified Discord avatar is the same as an anime lmao
>>727730228Dude if I had an opportunity to stick my hand up a loli's ass I sure as hell wouldn't waste it doing this.
>>727734935>bro thinksretarded + underage
>>727687343yuzu post this?
>>727728707So you wouldn't find it odd if a woman with a smash the patriarchy t shirt and LGBT flag color pins suddenly started saying we must secure a future for white children
>>727728519>only half of this list is made up or exaggerated
>>727732472>Anime over anythingLMAO
>>727732472this except vtubers first because I'm a paypig
>>727733157You don't want retard N5 translation.
>>727710812this would be way better if the letters corresponded to cup sizes desudesu
>>727735594Based king.
>>727735061Aww, it doesn't understand what thinking meansYou'll get there one day, little guy
>>727735321I'd find it odd, sure, because those are directly opposing political messages.Wearing a cute clothing style and then being a whore aren't directly opposing things. If you don't understand that a general style is different from explicit political messaging then I can't help you, sorry
>>727735946I'm masturbating to the thought of a supple 16 year old boy responding to my messages. give me one more response I'm about to cum
>>727736069Little guy even thinks everyone here is his peer, cute!
>>727736119thanks sweetie, I came just for you <3
>>727736165And now it's larping, it learn so fast
>>727692093E school life? I wanted to read it for the teacher and womanlet, is it that bad?
>>727736201I'll screnshot this post so I can have more fap material for later. thanks babe
>>727713158My friend tells me the same story. Bitch would go and wait him after school and got bored of it all. The funniest part is that he got told to take a shower in between fucking. kwab.
Well, this thread reached the bump limit.
>>727736403Today, anons learn that women are just as much sluts as men are
a truly awful thread void of any meaningful discussionsasuga moebuta
>>727735745That would make some of them too small.>>727736468Oh I know that. They were cold showers too. And he did as ordered.
>>727692538Gore Screaming Show.
>>727736465I will make Neen reach her (belly) bump limit
>>727736590ntrmasa insists upon itself
>>727736962that's no moege, I'm pretty sure it has heroine rape too
>>727694414Every minute without Ririko is sufferingHurry up negronyan
>>727736590Never bet on moe, Kageaki-dono.
>>727703697Letting a shota ntr you and drinking his cum out of your girls crotch is truly pure love kino.
>>727689121>alcot>mado>clochette>lump of sugar>minori>cabbageOnly ones I haven't played games from, any recs?
>>727737262NTRplus bro btw not sure if that matters
>>727737318all bad except minori's older games
>>727737571https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1DaACZbygk
>>727724892>nip vns are dyinglast i checked normalnigger zoomers love VNs. Its more normalized and popular then ever.
>>727738436>last i checkedWhere the fuck did you check that? You gotta reevaluate your sources, anon
>>727738436they have been dying for years now and a lot of the older companies have either moved to gacha or have disappeared quietly
