If your game is like this, then your game is shit.
name one game like this besides Microsoft flight simulator 2020
>>727708914Xe can't. Xe's just ragebaiting
>>727708967https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXGjeRaUNo
>game makes you go back in time IRLactually it's kino
>>727708967https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPkmrqF0MI
Technically
>>727708837>Pretty much all gachas
Monster Hunter Wilds (the spike is Omega Savage)
>>727708914Monster Hunter Wilds
>>727709605>>727709708Didn't Rise and World suffer from the same curve?Must be a modern MH problem
>>727708837I like the implication of the game being so hard that the difficulty spike goes backwards in time and affects your past self.
>>727709798Rise is also garbage, but the graph would look a bit different for that game
>>727709478He said 'game', though.
>>727709605Monster Hunter World with Alatreon. Fuck that fucking nigger dragon.
>>727709174>>727709909>Line isn't perfectly drawn so instead of participating in the discussion I'll make an offhanded remarkWhy is /v/ like this?
>>727709991Makes retards feel smart
>>727709991Why shouldn't /v/ be like this? This place is devoid of humor without them.
Games with this feel?
>>727710329shumps
>>727710329Any games where bosses are the only real contentI wish more devs would copy Furi
>>727710449boss rush games always fail besides the 1 that starts the trend
chrono trigger
>>727708914Every mario game but instead of a difficulty spike you have a little stair
>>727710358Well designed ones aren't like thatOr at least they're only like that in the first 2 or 3 stages
>>727708837Path of Exile>hours into the game>no problems>suddenly one boss deals lightning damage and instakills you because you have no lightning resistance, which you never needed until nowAlso there was a Kirby game I played that was so easy I turned my brain off and suddenly a boss just wiped the floor with me. Doubt I even knew the controls properly, because it wasn't needed until 5 levels in or something.
>>727709991Shut up nigger
>>727708837That picture is literally Kingdom Hearts 2, but fans of the game often only remember the difficult part and forget how easy the majority of the game is.
99% RPGs have the most retarded difficulty curves. The game starts with none of your toolkit. Then you get levels, stats, gear, abilities and everything gets easier and easier over time. Games are supposed to get harder.MMOs are bad for this. The solution to every problem is time.
>>727710329Stalker ShoC
>>727710329Armored CoreI unironically love random difficulty spikes
>>727708837lies of p laxasia
>>727710929I feel it’s a natural consequence of having a game where levelling up makes you automatically stronger, and thus you can just level grind until you can one shot everything. Games that have level scaling try to resolve this issue by keeping the difficulty a bit more consistent throughout the game, but a lot of RPGfags bitch about level scaling because they can’t just grind their way to victory and have to actually strategise to win.
>>727708914Every single modern MMORPG is like this.the part that should arguably be the most fun (Exploring the open world, levelling up etc..) is the most boring braindead shit, literal faceroll toddler tier difficulty, whereas the difficulty suddenly spikes when you just run the same boring endgame instanced content, fighting a single boss on a circular floating platform in blank space on normal, heroic, mega mythic mode difficulties which are autistically hard.Yes, i am seething, this used to be my favorite genre and its irrevocabily fucked.
>>727708837Based.Picrel is just good game design.Wokeniggers need not apply.Themepark niggers on deathrow.
>>727708837Dust: an Elysian Tail does this.
>>727709991It's more interesting than OP's topic
>>727710929Good RPGs give you a lot of tools early on but they're weaker versions of what you get later on>>727711261No amount of good design can fix players wanting to just grind their way to victory
>>727711549I can't tell if you're serious or notEither way, gotta love when a game always keeps you on your toes
>>727708837I finished this recently and the final boss was an absolutely massive kick in the dick on hard mode.
>>727711685>No amount of good design can fix players wanting to just grind their way to victoryTrue, but good design can make doing this harder for players, meaning that they have to actually engage with the game’s core systems rather than just spending an hour farming enemies until they’re overlevelled.
>>727709978It took me more tries to kill this motherfucker than beating Fatalis
>>727710878Yea resistances in RPGs are some real bullshit padding to extend playtime
>>727710329Hitman Codename 47 for the most part is a pretty easy game, but when it gets hard, you're in for a fucking ass whooping.
And if your game is like this it's a cult classic
>>727710329Dark Souls
>>727712913If the final boss doesn't kick my ass then it's a kusogeGradius is the only exception
>>727712913Movie games?
>>727713220>>727712996metal gear solid
>>727708914ecco the dolphinexcept the game is kino af
>>727713262The best Metal Gear game is Rising Revengeance
>>727712802C47 is one of the harder games in the franchise, but it’s only hard because they give you tons of forced combat sections in a game that clearly wasn’t designed with combat in mind.>>727712913This is Expedition 33.>>727712996Final bosses should be challenging, but it should be post-game superbosses that are the real ball busters.
>>727708837Have you learned nothing over the extended tutorial?captcha: KDVRAIt's trying to tell us something.
>>727708837literally every jrpg at the final boss
>>727712913literally all the ps1 final fantasy games
>>727710329Ninja Gaiden 2
>>727709978I just started Iceborne after almost 500 hours of World. How bad is he on a scale from 0 to Behemoth solo?
>>727713306>>spend 3 hours getting through "welcome to the machine" die instantly to the final boss
>>727713404>This is Expedition 33.Oh, so that's why people consider that game the second coming of Christ.Western game "journalists" love a good movie.
>>727708837>>727708914this is literally Final Fantasy X
>>727708914Fortune Summoners
>>727713817one may use savestates to figure out how to beat the boss, since the game gives practically zero feedback that you are making progress
>>727708837suikoden II. steamroll the whole game(except Luca) then suddenly i need to learn every mechanic to take on the beast rune. would never have known unite magic was a thing otherwise
>>727713873FFX is only difficult on no sphere grid games and the monster battle arena. unfortunately i'm too burnt out on the game by the time i've got the monster arena filled out to actually tackle it.
>>727708914Lots of I wanna be the guy fangames where the final boss if a billion times harder than anything before it.
>>727708914Basically every mainline nintendo nintendo platformer>Game starts out so easy you fall asleep playing it>By the final level you have one eye open>Beat the game dying like twice if at all>Unlock some mega post game level>It is hard as balls and like 8 levels in one and feels like bullshit
>>727708914Need for speed 2015
>>727708837ENTER
>>727708914SonicFrontiers
>>727713306Absolute kino.
>>727708914SNK fighting game arcade modesSonic UnleashedGran Turismo license testsBanjo Kazooie and Tooie especially
>>727708837milds...
>>727710329Any boss rush game as already said but I'll post this one specifically.
>>727708914octopath 2, only the final and secret boss offer any real challenge
>>727709174>>727709909Lmao
>>727713717What about the FF7 weapons?
>>727708837Evil within 1?
>>727714124The true final boss is genuinely hard
What game?
>>727710329Jak 2>escape from the slums>sewer escort>whack a mole mandatory minigame
>>727708914Yakuza - Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth's Sujimon Sidequest has a difficulty curve like this. Second last boss fight for the quest line has you fighting dudes that are like level 11, and then the next mission has you fighting dudes that are level 35 without any warning. I had to just give up on doing the final Sujimon mission until later cause the 3 enemies I need to fight to finish the mission are like 15 levels higher than anything else I've seen in the game so far, and there's really no way to cheese the fight either since all three enemies spam high damage AOE attacks that will wipe your entire party before you even get a turn.
>>727717738Learning to draw
>>727717809>he struggled with the whack a mole minigamelollmao
>>727708914>someone got filtered with landing a plane
>>727717738Basically every fighting game, every time you learn enough new shit to hit a new peak as a player, you start to get good enough to notice even more shit you didn't realize was important, and you start to notice how bad you are at things you thought you were pretty good atYou could play the same fighting game for 3000 hours, get to the top 0.5% of the playerbase, and STILL think to yourself "god I'm fucking dogshit at this game man, why am I so fucking bad?"
>>727717738Any multiplayer game with matchmaking.
I will accept no substitute
>>727718019Any souls game
>>727708837Jedi survivor
>>727718019Silver Surfer
>>727718082Haha, yeah. Souls games are super hard, fellow gamer.
>>727713816He has a far more complex moveset but he is way funner than Behemoth and I killed that nigga 1k+ times. Id say Extremoth is still harder than Alatreon.
>>727712913
>>727713717FF8 becomes bitch hard if you made the mistake of killing random enemies.
>>727717158This game rocks and eats hollow knights' lunch
>>727708914 Odile: Black Duckling Tale. Every single fucking route ends with a shittily-designed gangbang boss fight that retroactively ruins the route because of how unfair it is.Bet you can't find the boss in this pic.
>>727714046I was playing it on OG hardware, I just googled the level password to get back because fuck doing that level every time
>>727718439Not really. I managed to beat the final boss fairly easily when I was in the level 90s. It’s definitely one of the more challenging FFs out there, but only until you master the Junction system, at which point you can break the game over your knee.
>>727718680Is it that hard?
>>727718082The hardest part of a soulsbourne game is the fucking attack lag, for you and enemies. It's like everyone is playing with 1000ms of ping.
>>727721117yes the last level is a 12 minute auto scroller
>>727708914Most rpgs with optional superbosses
>>727723194>animations are lagfucking zoomers
>>727709798While the last 2 big monsters from world are very difficult compared to the rest of the cast, the game still has some monsters that act like a barrier to spike up the difficulty and you can feel how monsters start to be a threat slowly, Wilds doesn't have that, you bash you head against the monsters until they start one-shotting you at 9 star difficulty
THIS IS YOUR FAVORITE GAME! Most games do this>Easy during the tutorial / starting area>Difficulty quickly ramps up after that because you have nothing, you're low level with low HP and low damage so stuff is going to kill you. Especially if you try to take on difficult challenges early on.>But as you acquire levels / new abilities / new party members / MORE STUFF, the difficulty plummetsYou'll call this your favorite game because you get a sense of satisfaction as you got more powerful and overcame the early game. You enjoyed the comfortable flow state of everything becoming routine and easy. That's like every Bethesda game in a nutshell, Fallout, Skyrim, you name it. Countless other games do the exact same thing and by the end the game it's stupidly easy.
>>727709798It is, they want to grab millions of newfags but later added updates to try to get oldfags back.
>>727725736thats xcom 2 after mag weapons and a couple colonelsafter a while it gets boring as fuck and you have to go to the last mission before you completely lose interest
>>727725736My favorite games start out hard and get progressively harder towards the end, although it feels like it's getting easier because you're progressively better at the game. This feeling of personal growth and mastery is a lot more satisfying than artificially making it easier by making your character(s) get stronger in the game.
>>727709798>Didn't Rise and World suffer from the same curve?Not really, thy were also easy overall but they at least had difficulty spikes. Wilds doesn't even have those.
>>727724636You're not impressing anyone by pretending to be an oldfag.
>>727728393I'm just old. You are the fag.
>>727728442You're trying too hard.
>>727708914OSRS, except the easy part is even longer.
>>727708837Hehe
>>727710925Came here to post this. The game is pretty breezy and then Roxas appears and just completely fucks you up out of nowhere. It really made me realize many mechanics I was neglecting; like I was barely playing the game up to that point.
>>727725736Warcraft 3 is nothing like this. Reign of Chaos missions are mostly easy with only a few stand out hard missions, and then Frozen Throne is generally more difficult. Especially true on Hard mode.
>>727725736Describes way more than just Betheshit. Ubislop, Fromslop, BotW and TikTok, you name it. Video games are solved.
Thanks konami
>>727729574
>>727729295I needed to make some example and that was one off the top of my head. I really do get the impression that most games follow that curve and it's what people will love about games. They want to overcome early game challenge, feel accomplished, then coast the rest of the game feeling the high of their super strong character.
>>727711549unironically yes it offers the most varied (fun!) gameplay
>>727716683>Banjo Kazooie>massive spike in difficultyare you joking?
>>727733081When you're a kid in the early days of 3d, it's a lot different than when you're a jaded late 30s fuck.
>>727708914for me it was nine solsliterally not a single thing is a threat up until the very end (and a single boss at something like 60% of the game)
I recently played Metal Slug 1.The first 5 stages are ok difficulty, but the last one has a huge spike in the difficulty.
>>727709148>ESL trying to epic style libtard shitugh
