Name a bigger downgrade
>>727710362Both are dogshit, show me Honchcrow
No. This was
Post the Poke that made you feel funny.
@Anonymousu r gay
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>>727710616Samurott is cool though
>>727710849Furries didn't like him because he didn't wasn't bipedal, which meant that they couldn't draw anthro-furry shit with him like they did with Blaziken.
How OP would having 2 items be?
>>727710517Came here to post this
>>727710616Oshiwott was done so dirty.
Gen 3 to Gen 4
>>727710616One of the best middle-evolutions though
>>727710616/thread
>>727710616Samurott-Hisui is good in gen 9 OU
>>727710616Samurott is cool, never understood the hate>>727712014He can stand bipedally thoughAlso something being quadrapedal didn't stop them from drawing eevulution porn
>>727712668Blame Machoke.
fat fuck pikachu being erased was the biggest sin to ever happen
>>727710616this and that gay duck are easily the worst water starters
>>727710362Why the fuck did they give it udders though
>>727710362The two tails gives ambipom a better silhouette and it's cooler to imagine moving
>>727712825true
>>727710616one of the few times it actually should have fucking stood up
>>727710362The retardation really started with d&p didn’t it. The hit to miss ratio just went down and down from there
>>727713492Peaked at the second evolution
>>727710362Aipom is one of my top 3 favourite pokemon, but I don't mind ambipom. Kinda like it actually. He's got that funny lil haircut and his nose makes it look like he's wearing one of those nose guards swimmers wear which I think I've only ever seen in anime however I just googled it and they're real and they're not just for children.
>>727710362Aipom looks like some calarts shit lol, downgrade my ass
I'm going to post something more controversial.
>>727713638Something about the anatomy here looks too human. It's feels furry coded. Maybe I just don't want my pokemon standing on two feet and looking at me at eye level. If I'm the trainer, the pet should be on all fours.
>>727710362gen 4 really did so many pokemon dirty
>>727712668this is the one that always pissed me off, golem and graveler are so cool for diferent reasons. Reminds me to how the only 3 ghost types are evos of each other, so you are stuck with only gengar (which is my fav but that's not the point).
>>727712115Just everything about him is a downgrade. The circumcised tongue. The baby bib. The lack of a nose. The tiny arms. It's like he was supposed to be a baby evo that they turned into a regular evo last minute because they realized how shit likcitung's stats were.
>>727710362Dragonair > Dragonite
>>727714134Looks like a simpsons parody of pokemon
Correct opinion: Most fully evolved starters look worse than their middle form.
Scizor is really cool but I wish he wasn't Scyther's evolution
Literally no one I know agrees with me but I thought Scyther's design was infinitely better than what came after it. I fell off of pokemon and though Kleavor was a fan design.
>>727714054Torchic -> Combusken, as well as Combusken -> Blaziken to a point, I think it's understandable if you dislike the direction of the evolution. The Mega is basically the same as Blaziken though.Sort of similar with Piplup to Prinplup, but I like Empoleon.
>>727710517How the fuck did the beta design get scrapped in favor of this? The beta design was perfect>actually matched the evolution condition>biker punk look which is great since the original place you got Lickitung was on the bike trail
>>727714801Vast majority agree that Kleavor is shit compared to either Scythor or Scizor
>>727710616His lack of elbows and knees bother me the most.
>>727712760>all these regional variants and shit>never done a graveler or machamp evolution without the weird DNA trade shit that they never acknowledgedHurts, man.
>>727715039>mfw one of my favorites is getting a mega in the DLC
>>727714801One of these is retarded, the other two are pokemon.
>>727712760>>727714267Nothing to do with Machoke and Graveler "Swapping traits" when traded.The original Golem sprite had 4 arms, its reptile legs come from the anime design probably for animation reasons.
>>727710616You only hate it because it's not bipedal and any female Samurott not having a beard is off-model.
>>727716160This one is based on real-life women.
>>727716083i hate it because it looks like an ugly retard with broken limbs and wears a hideous helmet that looks like pic
>>727716160but that's an upgrade
>>727716160hell no
>>727716160you just want to fuck the cat
>>727713492>>727713869
>>727712754Furries fuck their dogs all the time. Samurott is a sea lion with armor and a beard. Furries ain't fuckin that.
>>727714992They were probably afraid it would scare kids or offend parents or some bullshit like that. Idk. There are so many beta pokemon that get scrapped for seeminly no reason despite being better designs.
>>727713492It's incredible how Carkoal is so "so bad it's good" that it managed to make a peak geewun kaiju design like Coalossal feel like a complete downgrade.
>>727714054I like blaziken a lot and I never cared for the mega. It felt just a bit too "much".
>>727714054What was going on here
>>727717228scrapped transfusion mechanic
>>727714801Scizor was nearly excellent
>>727716160purugly and mars are bae tho
>>727710517Man, they fucked it
>>727716673Kek I wish it would've evolved into just some guy pushing the cart
>>727717423This one I can get behind nigger turned into a bubble tape dispenser
>>727710616Dewott is so fucking cool that I never even evolved it.
>>727716909While Coalossal isn't as cool as Carkoal, it does give off heavy gen wun design vibes, imo. Not a bad poke, just outshined by it's previous form. He reminds me of the chonky look a lot of early big Pokemon had, and one I associate with early Pokemon design philosophy.
>>727717423I dunno man, that looks pretty dumb too. Its pretty much just golem with a squirtle's head, a tongue and spikes.
>>727717423This sucks too.
>>727714054I never liked Blaziken. Even when I was a kid he was the first Pokemon I saw that I was like "this shit doesn't look like a Pokemon wtf"Still ugly as sin
>>727717423God it just doesn't make sense why you replace this with the Lickilicky design. You clearly had the idea, you had the evolution method in place, but then in the eleventh hour you swap it out for a much lamer version of Lickitung? Crazy.
>>727717664>>727717723I'll take it over patrick star with macroglossia
>>727717664And? At least it sticks to a consistent art style in that respect, instead of that FAT FUCK it turns into
>>727717664It's a Fruit Roll-Up. It's why Lickitung arbitrarily evolves by learning Roll Out.
>>727715039sigh...
>>727718003>it's a THEME And the theme SUCKS
>>727717969I think you just have low standards. The design fucking sucks just as much as the official one we got. >>727718003I mean I get it, doesn't mean its good.
>>727714054Never saw appeal of fire starters since most of their final forms are ugly. I only really like Typhlosion and Delphox.
>>727718118Show me your favorite pokemon design.
>>727717270Seriously? I've never heard of that before.
>>727712825>hey guys, this thing that was only present for only 2 years, that i personally only saw for 1 year, was definitely the thing that i dislike the most
>>727717423This looks stupid. Lickylicky is cute it just has the digimon problem where the midform is better
>>727718060every time a pokemon looks like shit there's a faggot who says something like>b-but uhh at least they had an idea when they came up with itthe bar is at the bottom of the Mariana trench
>>727715105The vast majority thinks Scizor is a good Scyther evolution, so i'd rather not listen to them if a pool toy is considered better than first design+rocks
>>727718003holy shit it finally makes sense.fucking wow,
>>727717780Same. I feel the same way about Lucario. I'm not even one of those people that seethes about humanoid mons but they're on like the exact furry line and I can't get over it
>>727710616Came here to post this
>>727710616samurott itself isnt that bad, i just hate how much better dewotts evo could have beenan actual cool otter samurai with a shell sword would have been my favorite mon of all time
>>727718387The only one I don't like is the giant butt
>>727710616All three look like garbage though
>>727718212Not sure I'd say favorite but I like Hawlucha a lot. I'm sure they're already planning to ruin him with some goofy evolution some time soon. But hey his mega looked fucking cool though. If I have to pick a line I'd say cyndaquil, but that sounds like a basic bitch answer. I think most middle evolutions look fucking awful aside from that one.
>>727718249Yea. Actually I thought it up when I visited gf headquarters but masuda called me a faggot gaijin and told me to leave immediately. Alas, some things weren't meant to be.
>>727710616cant believe they did it twice
>>727718535Honestly the gen 1 and 2 mid stage starters are all pretty great
>>727718607Kinggambit is basedESPECIALLY the hover chair
>>727718607>we want the pokemon Conquest audience
>>727718607I loved Bisharp so much. Why did they have to do him like this. Modern pokemon designs are so trash now outside of a few good ones here and there.
>>727718387Just giving us the 4 completed mons would be better at this point. I want the electric raptor.
>>727718671i dont hate Kingambit, but he could have been so much better
>>727710362PS2 to PS3.
>>727718941The Wing Gundam with the feather angel wings sucked compared to the tv one
>>727718607Bisharp felt more Kamen Rider-ish than like a samurai
>>727718656They're infinitely better than later gens for sure yeah. We had much better results when they introduce regional variants. People shit on S&M, but that gave us alola exeggutor and vulpix which were great.
>>727719009That was a movie. And looked great too, faggot
>>727719009True, but TV Wing Zero's wings looked like ass as well. Only Wing has good wings.
>>727710616I broadly don't like bipedal pokemon. But it kind of bothers me how humanoid-like the first two are and then the third one is just like some kind of beast.
>>727717423That looks fucking horrible.>>727718003Still looks fucking horrible.
>>727718776>Why did they have to do him like thisDo what? The same identical design with the only difference being longer face blades?
>>727719009STFU NIGGA
>genwunner faggots hating gen 4 designsYou have no sense of taste to be criticizing anything.
>>727719213I think Epyon had best wings but then again Deathscythe 2's "bat wing" were cool too
>>727719321>i called you genwunner so you can't insult this thing i'm emotionally attached to because i played it as a kid0 self awareness
>>727719321For all the hits it also had misses, anon. At least we have Gliscor
>>727719126>>727719213>>727719312Shining Gundam was better than God Gundam too
>>727718387Pokemon fags have nothing else. All they can do is cope when a pokemon design is so shit because that's the norm at this point. All the megas for the new game look so shit but I know people who shill these games and keep saying the designs are good and I'm just wrong. I'm glad I stopped played this shit when gen 6 rolled out. That truly was the end.
>>727716240LMAO
>>727719412Overwhelmingly so.
>>727719412the biggest downgrade of all time is Exia > 00
>>727719275>Dude the only difference is face bladesYou are not a Bisharp fan. I will not let you piss down my back and tell me there's a thunderstorm outside.
>>727719459No it's more like you have to judge things on what they're trying to be not what you wish they were. Ignoring what it's trying to be is like reading a mystery novel and then complaining>This is boring, where's the swords and sorcery?
>>727712760You can trade Machoke and Graveler with any other pokémon and they still get the so called "swapped traits". That fanfiction is just an excuse for inconsistent designs
>>727716160I remember hearing a rumor that you can naturally keep your Glameow from evolving into Purrugly by increasing her beauty stat to some degree. Was that an actual thing? Would there even be any advantage to it?
>>72771959500 is fine. 00 Raiser is absolute garbage.
>>727719412>>727719213Anon, I'mma let you finish but I just wanna say that Getter Shin is the best mecha of all time. OF ALL TIME!
>>727717780That was actually the point with Blaziken, people just missed it and found him cool anyways. He's supposed to represent the dissapointement kids feel when cute little chicks grow up into chickens.
>>727719703lol no, that does sound like a cute playground rumor though.
>>727719646Holy mental gymnastics. You have judge things based on what they ARE, in this case, SHIT.
>>727719646Sure but pokefags put more weight on the "What it's trying to be" part, than what it just turned out to be. I can't judge everything off of its intent. That just lets utter shit pass through. If a game is total shit but I can't call it that because some retard tells me to judge it off of what its intention was it's just an excuse at that point. But I will agree that intention at least carries some weight, just not all the weight.
>>727718607unforgiveable
Gen 3 had the best designs by a longshot, you literally can't bring up one bad pokémon in that gen.
>>727719595If I remember correctly, they had to downgrade all gundam designs, because the S1 ones were hell for the animators.
Chadizard
>>727719829Seems obvious now that I've typed it out. I fell for the old "need an extra pokeball to get shedinja" one as well, except they actually ended up making that a requirent in gen 4 I think.
>>727719384>you can't insult this thing i'm emotionally attached to because i played it as a kidThis is exactly how genwunners think.
>>727719384>>727720310
>>727720221no knee can stop him from breathing
>>727720310You're a real life NPC trained in NPC conversations with NPC response flowcharts. This is why you like Pokemon
>>727719459>All they can do is cope when a pokemon design is so shit because that's the norm at this pointGen 5's dex was abhorrent trash everyone rejected, so that's obviously wrong.>I'm glad I stopped played this shit when gen 6 rolled out.Ah you're a Unovazoomer that explains it.
>>727720962hi yawnie
>>727720901unc crashing out
>>727719459Gen 6 megas were just as insulting as Gen 9's. People just don't remember most of them because Charizard X and Lucario were pushed to the forefront. Example:
>>727719896>If a game is total shit but I can't call it that because some retard tells me to judge it off of what its intention was it's just an excuse at that point.No just if you vocalize WHY you think it’s shit and you say something like>I don’t like what it tried to do it should be something elseIt just comes off as low IQ. Good example is the mega Feraligator>Pokemon should care more about Biology, the design doesn’t make senseNobody cares Pokemon aren’t realistic it’s a Kamen rider thing
gen 1 was an amateurishly made novel concept gen 2 was a soulful but flawed sequeleverything afterwards has been a soulless cash grab banking on the fact that there will always be an endless supply of clueless 8-10 year olds ready to like their first pokemon game
>>727718003nah bro, the wifi bib theming makes more sense
>>727722001mega feraligator is a victim of the transition to 3dback in the day with 2d sprites many mons COULD get away with being a good concept because they only had to evoke the feeling of that concept through a single posemega feraligator getting 1 cool pose to show off how its supposed to be a big totodile could have been pulled off well, the problem is when it has to constantly walk around with its stupid hood and arm jaws that just look bad outside of the idea of what theyre supposed to be
>>727721895this guy was the "reward" for beating the oras demo btw
>>727710362You're dad -> (You)
>>727722790>demo even had a hidden reward
>>727710362They turned Gyarados into a fat shrimp
>>727714054Blaziken in metal as fuck but it’s pretty far from a pokemon
>>727714498Lickilicki just doesnt look monster
>>727718607All it had to do was stand up. That's it. If it was a joke to keep it kneeling or sitting, it's not a good one.
>>727718387These are going to be expanded on the Legends Galar game
>>727710362Cacturne could've been so awesome.
>>727721895Thats metal as fuck, megaevolution broke his jaw
>>727714542From cute to elegant to what the fuck is this derpy fatso.
>>727722987This is how Gyarados would've been originally. A huge leech/isopod thing.
>>727714752Scizor should be a side evolution along with scyther with some pre evo leading to it
>>727717423>>727710517The cut gen 2 design was better. I'm also infuriated how we lost out on Gorochu so we could instead get Pichu. Fuck baby pokemon.
>>727710362MeganiumReally wish Bayleef would go into direcrion similar to Aurorus, instead we got this ugly bald green dino. Such shame, chikorita was such adorable little pear
>>727716853Poor tangela got shat on hard by Gamefreak. It could've had a baby form (Monja) and Tangrowth (Jaranra) could've been in Gen 2.
>>727724008>The cut gen 2 design was better.A lot of those look like they were reused into 2 monsters.
>>727724343Slowking and Slowbro's Shellders were originally going to be a separate Pokemon.
>>727724216I really dig the pre evo Tangela, the final form is kind of too different though
>>727724216This might be the only example of a baby mon that actually looks better than its evolution, and they fucking cut it.
>>727712043>everyone just running choice band/specs and choice scarf>or gliscor with toxic sludge and leftoversIt would be kinda shit tbqh
>>727716853That first sprite is just a fat pidgey with one elephant leg
>>727727350>Shedinja with 2 focus band
>>727727546
>>727721895>Mega Evolution gives the user the optimal stats and ability to fucking kill itselfNo really, what else is it doing with Refrigerate?
This honestly.
Not because Gengar is bad but I fucking love Haunter
>>727727967ZA would be the perfect game for refrigerate hyper beam if we had abilities
>>727724216Now the whopping missing 120 points it lost from gen 1 to gen 2 kind of makes sense, too bad they cut the evolution and forgot to fix its stats
>>727716354>Cat>But make it fatterOkay, architect.
>>727710362Mega Feraligatr. Also, why the fuck is Seismitoad not in ZA??
>>727710362You know what's funny aipom in gen 2? You can get a furret before aipom and furret is genuinely better
>>727724149I agree with this, however I think Meganium should've been bipedial like Sceptile
When I was a kid I cried when my grovyle evolved into a fat lizard with yellow tumors
>>727710362sprites to 3d
>Start as a floating stump>End up as a Mortal Kombat flesh eating treeI gotta say, it's pretty great.
>>727710362Ambipom would have been 1000% better if those were actual hands and not udders.
>>727729176Bigger problem it has a pine tree shoved into it's ass
>>727720962>Gen 5's dex was abhorrent trash everyone rejected, so that's obviously wrong.Agreed. Probably only 10% of the mons in that region are good and they're gated in the post game. Truly one of the worst gens. It was a canary in the coal mine.>Ah you're a Unovazoomer that explains it.Nope. I'm probably not whatever you think I am. Gen 5 was so bad I stopped playing regularly right there, but BW2 was a slight improvement with some cool features, but it wasn't enough to fix that gen. Funnily enough, the best thing about it was the fact that the region wasn't locked to Gen 5 mons only now. Gen 6 was everything wrong with Gen 5. I would've stuck around if they released Z or something but they jumped ship and released two even shittier pokemon games. I'll say that some of the mons were somewhat better this time around when compared to Gen 5 and 6, but that wasn't a high bar to clear.
>>727729076that's just gen 2 honestly. lots of shitmons in that gen.
>>727714054I'm a weirdo because I generally dislike Blaziken and yet Mega Blaziken is one of my all-time favorite fire types. Can't explain why
>>727716406post the attack ones
>>727710362>Name a bigger downgradeImagine getting a Mega evolution, but it just looks like a plastic toy version of your first evolution.
>>727710362I'm so fucking tired of hime-cut bangs
>>727710362I'm so fucking obsessed with hime-cut bangs
>>727710362I'm so fucking ambivalent to hime-cut bangs.
>>727714498>bib = babyIt's a gourmand.
>>727729176I love Sceptile and the whole Treecko line, just wish they weren't mono grass type
>>727732048what the fuck
>>727732842Pokemon's design philosophy, if they design a pokemon and it looks cool they change it to look a bit goofy (sometimes it backfires in luxray's case)
>>727713492>Make it obvious it's going to evolve into a steam train due to the theme and ability name>End up with nigger Rhyperior instead
>>727713638Damn, his cock is long!
>>727733885>>Nigger Ryperior was one of the best pokemon of that generation
>>727710362pokemon gen 3
>>727728412Based af
