IT'S SO FAR SO FAR AWAY
>>727711753OPENWORLDMETROID
>>727711803it's about as open as twilight princess
this game would be a solid 9/10 if you completely removed all named NPCs and the fuckass desert and left everything else untouched
whoever that is probably spend days in anticipation of doing that skit. "chat will love it it's gonna be so great" or something.
>>727711753this is good gameplay
>>727711753what's the issue? does everyone have adhd nowadays?
>>727711753>plays like a retardPretending to be one is being one.
>>727711753If you dont appreciate the fact that a wide open space like this is possible idk what to tell you
Why doesnt this play when you ride the bike in the desert?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9KuPI1tj9c
>>727712324IF YOU'RE NOT SURE WHERE TO GO TRY CHECKING THE MAP
>>727712272It unironically CAN be good gameplay in something like Shadow of the Colossus, but Metroid Prime 4 is not fucking Shadow of the Colossus
>>727712324DONT FORGET TO COLLECT THOSE ITEMS SAMUSSAMUS THERE ARE ITEMS TO COLLECT
>>727713127https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na47wMFfQCoI was expecting this
>>727713127you have to buy the amiibo to get music
>tendie defense force immediately swoop in with no arguments
>>727713276>>727713279what amiibo do I buy to hear this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtwJvgPJ9xw
Tendies big mad in here
>>727711753>big fuckhueg empty desert with nothing to do and no incentive to kill enemies that aren't even attacking>fucking myles there despite repeated insistence he's just a tutorial level character, blabbering away the fucking obvious instead of at least letting you explore on your own like a metroid game fucking shouldI get this took like 18 fucking years to come out but that doesn't mean everyone needs to ride samus' massive futa cock over this slop
If i wanted to jump off sand cliffs i would boot up fucking beamng
>>727711753>Mackenzie head pops up like a banjo kazooie characterFucking kek
>>727711753>>727713512>>727713316>entire thread is one person just trying to instigate flamewars wtf even is /v/ nowadays, snoys are retarded faggots but this isn't even how *they* operate, this is how /pol/ users act when trying to flame outrage about something, but i cant even understand the purpose in doing it about metroid prime 4
>>727713279Either buy the Amiibo or beat the game 100% (which means you have no reason to go back to the desert anyways).
>>727711753>Shadow of the Colossus if it was ass
>>727712324they added Navi to it
>>727712324>does everyone have adhd nowadayThis was the same argument used for Death Stranding and Death Stranding 2. This was the same argument used for Starfield. The desert is boring whether you want to admit that now or wait to admit it later.
>>727711753Where's the full clip of this
it's okay when Zelda does it
>>727711753Miles of desert is fine if the game is designed to be somewhat not ass. Assassin's Creed Origins for all it's problems has a pretty good desert, and it being a game I spent more time on, having broken from the yearly AC cycle, had more attention to detail. The mirages and such were a nice touch. It also just looked good, and there was some variety.
>>727711753>OPEN WORLD>guys we did it
>>727717660WW is shit too.
>>727712324No, but I will say this, a number of people behave like this is the case, only because some people do seem to not be able to behold the beauty of a thing. Not that this metroid is a great example of this.
>>727711850At least you could teleport in TP
>>727717660>remaster gives you faster sailing and significantly reduces the Triforce grindIt was, in fact, not OK
>>727711753When you have a game that did it right, and you fail to play it as a dev, learn from it as a dev, and build upon that as a dev.Game devs no longer play SHIT.They don't know SHIT.
>>727717946Never played it, but doesn't it have the same empty desert feel?
>>727717660this game was hated when it first came out fag like you
>>727719748Nope, they find ways to keep you engaged and focused on a goal with planning, and give you challenges that can't just be cruise-control'd.With well timed dialogue interspersed that isn't just minipoint bullshit.It almost comes close to perfectly implementing a big map, and that's a 2015 game.
>>727711850lol fuck off retard TP has heaps of actual content in the world map.secret caves, varied enemies, more complex terrain with actual walls/jumps ect, heart pieces, collectables, challenges, platforming, sections to use tools (claws, spinner, boomerange, bombs, arrows, ect)Beyond has nothing but small hills with pointless birds and desert crystals that are even worse than the ones in ratchet and clank 2.
>>727717660Try again WW at least had shit that happened in the sea, treasure, actual enemies and combat. Islands to discover, even the worst zelda map is still far better than M4B.
>>727712324Hey anon, are you lost? If you're not sure where to go, reddit still has unexplored areas! Try using your new powers there!
>>727712324>not wanting to mindlessly hold forward in your $99 game means you have adhd
>>727712324Yes.
>>727714721you deserve to get shot for ruining gaming with your shit taste and tribalism you fuckface
>>727717660you weren't born, zoom zoom. if you were you would know it was hated.
>>727712680How exactly do you play "riding from one end of an empty desert to the other" in any other way?The only thing here that's retarded is the design of the game.
>>727712324there's like a 99% chance this streamer went WUT I DO NOW??? like a retard even though there was an obvious path, people like that just don't realize they're the problem lol
>>727717660twas cool actually, 49 squares each with its own island or surprise for you to discover. Shit constantly happening in the water, nice music, day and night cycle, nice visuals, all of it helped the game feel like a vast adventure. windwaker without the sailing is a worse game, prime 4 without the open world is better in every single way.
>>727711753>take the worst level in ratchet and clank 2, a 20+ year old game>make it your entire game
>>727712680>plays like a retardwhy are you making fun of nintendo for designing their games for their core audience?
>>727717660i was surprised to find out people hated this.triforce hunting was my favorite part
>>727719748For one you actually have to drive instead of just holding W while your bike just flawlessly navigates every dune.
>>727711753mackenzie message is the cherry on top kek tendies are cultists to defend this garbage
>"alright samus it's time to start looking for those 3 remaining keys!! it's up to you to choose which one you want to tackle next :)">go to ice area>progress blocked>go to facility hanging over hole in the ground>can't get across>go to lava area>progress blocked but find that one crucial upgrade to access further into the ice area about 2 rooms into the lava areasee this was probably going to happen regardless of which one i "tackled first" unless i stumbled into the lava area first because that's the metroid way but that fuck myles lied to me
>>727722314If you spend more than five minutes in the desert Myles will just tell you to go to the volcano and force you to check your map so it can place a waymark. So yeah, there's not actually a choice.
>>727711850lol you wish, mp4 is the emptiest husk of an open world ive ever seen
why is it ok when others do it
>>727713679Let's fucking goooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!Vegas here we come!!!!!!!!!!
>>727711753kek when I saw the bike I knew it would be hold R2 to move forward for 3 minutes while traversing the """""""""open"""""""""" worldopen meme was such a fucking mistake
>>727711753SO FAR AWAY
>literally crosses the entire game map in less than a minute>DUDE IT'S SO BIG AND EMPTY LOL
>>727711753As millennial, I'm deeply ashamed that the legacy we'll leave is open world shit. It's ruined every fucking series its touched, like a cancer.
>>727713525>fucking myles there despite repeated insistence he's just a tutorial level characterThis was delusional cope from fans, Nintendo never said anything of the sort.
>>727722527that's the thing, it's not, but /v/endies will shit on the others while nintendo games get a pass
>>727712324Back when people didn't have ADHD, we preferred our games to be meaty
>>727722774we didn't make open world games. Gen X Ubisoft devs pioneered that shit when we were still in school.
Why did a Metroid game need an open world and companion NPCs?
In case anyone is curious, Oatsngoats is live right now and he's still ranting about the desert kek
>>727717660Literally seen as the worst Zelda game at the time.
>>727712680should he have been slaloming the whole time or something? doing jump tricks off the dunes? i literally do not see anything else to do in the webm
>>727722527None of those are nearly as visually boring as the desert, but i disagree that any of them are "ok" for it.Elden Ring for example sucked precisely because so much of the map is big empty fields you just ride right through over the more intelligently designed maps of previous games.Sekiro's my favorite, personally. The areas are big but still full of detail and there's a ton of verticality to the environment that's really fun to explore with the grappling hook.
I HATE BREATH OF THE WILDI HATE BREATH OF THE WILDI HATE BREATH OF THE WILD
>>727722527While I hate Zelda, there is an expectation of this. There is not an expectation of it in Metroid, it is out of place and not normal to be in this series.
>>727712324Open worlds are designed for distracted ADHD zoomers who aren't fully paying attention to the game. You can even see in the OP webm you barely have to pay attention to navigate. ADHD zoomers actually have a hard time staying consistently focused on games that demand your full attention at all times.
>>727711753Honestly how do you make a good desert map in a game while keeping it desertic?
>>727724560Easily. Only have the player explore part of it and have that part have shit in it. Deserts work just fine in any game that isn't a 'look at this huuuuuuuuuge open worlds that's big for the sake of being big' tardbait.
>>727711850I'm replaying TP now and nothing in MP4's overworld seems even as interesting as looking for golden bugs the moment you step out into Hyrule Field. At least that shit increases your wallet size and can fuel the Malo Mart quest for the Magic Armor.
>Nintencultists have to defend something they've been deriding now that it's in their BING BING WAHOO sloplove to see it
>>727724560Banjo-Kazooie and Super Mario 64 had the right ideas - make it a small, content dense section of desert. Nobody wants to actually traverse fucking Tatooine.
>>727724381he's a braindamaged retard, ignore him
>>727722527rdr and rdr2 are defined by their open worlds tendietry again
>>727711753The MacKenzie comms popping up makes this even better