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remember how we were all so hyped about this game
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>we
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And it was a good game. Mostly.
Shame about the DLC though.
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yea and then i played it for 400 hours, cool game
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I was shilling for this years before release, saying it'd be the next OoT and all sorts of nonsense
little did I know it'd be their worst game since DS2. it's basically a self-parody of their games
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>>727712006
Only marketers were "hyped" about elden goyslop
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>>727712006
and it turned out to be tge greatest game ever conceived.
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>>727712006
Yep, and it delivered and we had nonstop threads about people playing it for a month+. Good times.
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>>727712287
yes saar redeem the rollslop saar
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i thought it was great.
idk why you guys are so resentful about it.
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>>727712256
>>727712193
>>727712127
>>727712090
>>727712006
retard contrarians
>>727712287
this
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>>727712006
Easily one of the Top 10 best games ever made. Peak of gaming.
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>>727712287
lol. LMAO perchancever
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>>727712370
retard newfag
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>>727712006
yeah and it met expectations so what
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>>727712287
>>727712373
But enough about Skyrim
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>>727712006
I’m playing through it for the first time and it’s incredible.
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I have 500 hours in that game. kinda mid ngl, had close to 3k in dark souls.
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>>727712653
nice bro, enjoy. First time playing through Elden Ring was pure magic. I would recommend not looking up any guides or strategies but thats just my opinion.
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>>727712625
Based. Skyrim is pure kino.
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>>727712370
underaged virgin
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>>727712814
>>727712625
Go make a Skyrim thread then dumb attention seeking niggers
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>>727712625
elden zoomers wouldn't get it
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>>727712351
>redeem
already did bro, bought the base game and expansion twice already. also got nightreign and the dlc.
>rollslop
you niggers have yet to convince me why rolling as a game mechanic is a bad thing.
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Elden ring is for zoomigger retards.
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>>727712495
What is the flaw here?
So the game has redundant save locations. What is your point?
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>>727712625
>Skyrim is a classic now
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>>727713227
GAME BAD!
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dark souls 1 nonlinearity glazers when they get a game that's actually open-ended:
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>we
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>>727712495
disingenuous post
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>>727712256
Imagine shilling this trash for free
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>>727712193
Hey now. Caria Manor, Shaded Castle, Nokron and that gay albinauric town in the forgotten snowfields are all pretty cool too
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>>727712006
This is the only soulslop game I enjoyed.
Sold 30M, so obviously I'm not the only one.
You lost.
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>>727712006
it suspased all of my expectations. currently replaying it and it holds up

that said, 1st playthough is the best. after the sense of exploration is gone, its a lot of galloping though useless zones and looking up the position of specific items
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>>727713343
non-linearity and open-world are not the same. non-linear games can still have structured and meaningful level design without becoming a giant open space that is essentially just a loading screen
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>>727713343
Imagine if the entire ER was just one gigantic Stormveil.
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>>727713227
It should be more like Demon's Souls in this regard and I'm not kidding.
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>>727713227
it shows a lack of game design chops when there's needless checkpoints 10 seconds away from each other, and kills the sense of exploration and isolation in dangerous locations since you know there's always one nearby, unlike Blighttown where you have no idea when there'll be a new checkpoint
doesn't help that you can teleport everywhere too, free of charge
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>>727713645
Only worked because Demons Souls levels tended to be fairly short or broken into subsections that you transitioned between (like Latria especially).
The only sequenced level really like that in Elden Ring is The Haligtree.
Others are far more, "here's a big fixed location, figure out how you're going to get around it now".
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>>727712495
I hated how many graces there were. Such a joke game
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>>727713837
blight town was unfun.
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>>727713939
exactly. Zero challenge

Oh and you can warp to them for free whenever you want
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>>727712625
>Morrowind but casualized
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>>727713939
>i hate open world but also i want to walk everywhere in it
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>Dark Keks still seething four years later
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>>727712006
I was never excited for le open world Souls game faggot. The game has no appeal. I better play proper games like GTA
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>>727713837
>unlike Blighttown where you have no idea when there'll be a new checkpoint
Only on the first playthough. Otherwise you know as much about what is coming up in either game, equally.

In the Stormveil pic, you have a bonfire before a boss, one drops after the boss (which is a constant in the game), and then one before the dungeon. Then a final one before an optional shortcut that a lot of players may choose to leave closed because it is dangerous to take it.
They didn't need the boss to drop a bonfire, but because every boss does it, it would be inconsistent to not do so here.
The others are all fine. 2 of them are spatially close, but if you got rid of the one on the other side of the gate, you'd be forcing players to open the gate, which puts them in line for a bunch of ballista fire as a reward for progress.
>>727714065
You never died in the game?
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>>727714214
Dragon's Dogma had the right idea.
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>>727713267
>pussymouth spider
my dick
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>>727712006
>remember how we were all so hyped about this game
No. I thought it looked like dogshit for Fortnite kiddies immediately upon its reveal.
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>>727712006
I wish I hadn't played the PS4 version of this game - it completely ruined my experience with the shitty framerates and input drops.
Playing it a separate time on a friend's PC made me realize how good the game actually is.
Lying that this game was optimized for PS4 killed my experience.
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>>727715048
i, too, only think in terms of AAA western games
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>>727712006
Nope.
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>medieval fantasy rollslop
don't care, i want bb on pc and i'm not having sex until it gets released
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>>727712653
Enjoy. Take your time. Make sure to fucking MIRE the skybox when you reach Siofra River, Nokstella and Nokron. It's so fucking pretty I stopped for a moment to absorb a bit of the landscape, more than a few times.
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>>727715578
>Samefagging for rollslop this hard
Lmao
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>>727713837
Except if you actually played the fucking game you'd know those checkpoints are built on the idea of you exploring everything BEFORE you complete the area.
The checkpoint before the boss is there for obvious reasons.
The checkpoint on the boss' death spot is a mechanic that happens always because, as observed from people's behavior from prior games, they may want to level up or use it for some other reason. They don't need to check every single boss to see if there was one right before it cause ultimately it doesn't change jack shit and doesn't "ruin exploration".
The checkpoints beyond where the gate was supposed to be CLOSED are decided with the idea of exploring the castle for the first time. That disingenuous webm already completed everything and is running through an area whose shortcuts are open. If that wasn't the case fuckheads like you would complain that you have to go through the whole thing again if you missed something. Other dungeons and dungeon-like areas are designed with the same idea.
Elden Ring has flaws, like what they did with Miquella and the shitty DLC boss, but that's not one of them.
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>>727716204
>slop
You need to end your life. You're a drone, through and through. Acquire a single original thought.
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>>727715357
If u have a functional brain u can emulate bb pretty easily, even a weedbrain like myself got it working nicely
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>>727712006
I recall as my love of gaming died... destroyed by corporate greed and by men who lust only for power.
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Never been hype since mgsv
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The fire fades. Many will revel in the moment of this games greatness but in the future you will look back on it and lament as you realize it would never surpass this. It was the highest artform that from soft would produce and from that point it would fade into copy pasta rehashed remarketed bullshit.
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>>727716376
The average /v/drone is barely sentient.
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>>727712006
I was insanely hyped and it actually delivered, one of the only times in my life it happened.
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>>727712625
Reddit incarnate
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>>727716376
I remember not finding the necessary ISOs for the game and OS so I just gave up. Funny enough I didn't have trouble doing so for RPCS3 and I'm currently playing DeS for the fourth time
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>>727713513
Semi-Open map is the best format.
You can't change my mind.
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>>727718987
It is pretty good.
Baldur's Gate 3 used it very well, for a recent title.
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>design one of the most visually impressive overworlds ever made
>90% of bosses glitch out in the overworld because the slightest angle or obstacle interrupts their attack
>every boss' attacks now moves them 50ft away
>the bosses are only playable in regular boss rooms, defeating the whole point of open world in the first place
>from worked on the game for 5+ years and never once considered this an issue
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>>727721308
>elden ring
>visually impressive
it's honestly ugly as fuck
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>>727721454
Indefensible opinion.
>>727721308
Open world bosses having a leash that teleports them home that is often so stupidly short is incomprehensible.
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>>727721540
It is ugly. Everywhere you go is the same murky-looking sludge
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>>727712625
Based
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>>727712193
I have no idea how OoT was ever held in high regard. it wasn't even the best Zelda game on the N64, let alone the best game of all time.
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>>727721454
graphics wise? no. design wise? its 10/10

it runs like shit, the the visual design itself is borderline perfect in terms of cohesion with lore/etc
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>>727721731
>sludge
Its one of the most colorful games out there. The graphical style is very sharp, too.
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It's garbage and looks incredibly outdated in graphics. The only good looking and impressive open worlds out there are RDR2 and TW3. ER is trash on all categories no exceptions.
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>>727712006
Deserved the hype.
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>>727721903
The art design is realistic and that relies on graphics. See Death Stranding for more impressive environments and models using a better design.
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Once you realize the game was only 60% finished at best at release it actually makes a lot of sense. You kinda see how and where the content is missing, get a feel for it. That's why Limgrave was the only "finished" location as they made it before covid.
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>>727721903
don't get me wrong, some of its locales and creatures are really well designed and themselves look great, but graphically is looks like mud and is terribly optimized too.
>>727721982
>Its one of the most colorful games
>graphical style is very sharp, too.
Both blatant lies, most of the game has the same murky color palette, and its texturing is bad so a lot of it looks soft (especially up close)
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>>727712006
Elden Ring is genuinely, genuinely, the game of the decade. If you disagree, you're simply trying too hard.
>but!
No one said it was perfect. Its still the GOTD though.
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>>727722089
>Death Stranding
The game just looks boring.
There's nothing that looks as impressive as Raya Lucaria or Leyndell or the Shadow Keep or Enir Ilim.
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>>727712006
Worth it. After 700hrs I'm finally done with it, thought. Nightreign is a nice time sink until their next big project.
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>>727712006
Loved it then and still love it now.
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>>727722154
>>727721997
Graphics are the least import part of any game though. I'd go as far as to say when a game has middling graphics it's a great sign, because the people making it are spending time on shit that actually matters. Nobody replays a game for it's graphics
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>>727722089
>The art design is realistic
lmfao
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>>727722190
BG3 has that title. ER is just last decade slop coming from soulsslop that did nothing impressive nor unique in that title.
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>>727712625
Skyrim is fun for 5 hours when you specifically make a build to avoid combat at all costs. My personal favorite is Conjuration/Illusionist where you make the shitty AI fight against itself.
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>>727722335
I mostly agree with you here but that anon saying ER has "one of the most visually impressive overworlds" is out of his damn mind.
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>>727722220
>>727722320
0.05 cents has been deposited into your Bandai account. Keep up the good work goy!
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Going back to Elden Ring nowadays, it almost feels better because theres like, nostalgia and shit everywhere you go.
The atmospheric sounds that play in the background hit way fucking harder.
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>>727722125
COVID did probably do a lot of damage to the game.
You can see that there was an intent to make the overworld more responsive to game events.
A pretty large area was planned for underneath Radahn's arena, for example. Ostensibly opening up after his fight and the meteor shower it caused. It would lead to a large underground location and possibly to the Astel fight that had to be moved elsewhere via a teleporter.

They did trim the game down well, nothing feels hugely unfinished unlike Izalith or Drangleic castle or cut together like a lot of DS3.
But it is obvious they wanted to do more. But that is just how game development always goes.
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>>727712006
The threads leading up to release reminded me of Skyrim back in the day but the game was decent at best. I think most of the hype was just to spite the shazzam trannies who were pretty vocal around that time.
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>>727722538
This post reads like a bot
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>>727722518
cope and lmao that dude got owned
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>>727714273
People that gripe about Elden Ring's sites of grace while also bitching about the difficulty of the combat are retards, but you are correct that DD:DA is the better "exploration" game, even if the combat is worse for it. These are the trade-offs you make when designing a game.
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>>727722756
Crazy thing is; he's right
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>>727722756
It more than likely is.
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I never played a DS game and I thought ER was pretty fun even though I never finished it. The PC controls are bad.

>I also used the mimic tear for most bosses :)
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>>727722154
>most of the game has the same murky color palette
Just not true.
Every region has a different color palette from the previous.
Limgrave's grey, Liurnia's blue, Caelid's red, Altus's gold, etc.
As far as aesthetic diversity there aren't a lot of recent titles that come anywhere near that.
>>727722496
What other games can inspire the awe of something like entering Liurnia for the first time?
Impressive isn't just about what textures look like 5 inches away. But what the world itself looks like.
There aren't many that will ever look as good as Elden Ring does.
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>>727721997
> The only good looking and impressive open worlds out there are RDR2 and TW3
cyberpunk too if you can run it with path tracing
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>>727722783
>even if the combat is worse for it.
DD combat is better than Souls THOUGH
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>>727722646
It's actually more insanse once you understand how much they planned. The ENTIRE game is lost Izalith. With only the barebones mapwork done, everything else is either scrapped or unfinished.
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>>727722901
>had to post an edited image to avoid the murky-ass color palette
come on anon you know you're being intentionally disingenuous and you know full well exactly what I meant.
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>>727712006

Not me. Even though i like fantasy and even dark fantasy to some extent i´ve never been hyped nor played a single souls like game.
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>>727722447
BG3 is fucking trash from the word go, and from what I've heard, only gets worse the further in you play. I'll never know, because I quit after beating the Act 1 Goblin camp boss. Knew everything I needed to see at that point.
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>>727722783
Limit check/warp points to key areas only like major towns or hubs. Instead have a limited amount of portable check/warp points which are rare enough that you can never spend them without careful consideration. This trivializes boss runs but that's every game since DaS3 anyway. What it does is makes you cope with less warp points in the fashion you find most acceptable.
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>>727722646
I mean every single npc, quest, storyline, setpiece, location, bosses etc are what's LEFT of what they scrapped. The whole Melina/Ranni connection, their stories, scenes, everything got scrapped. And it's just one example.
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>>727723014
No, it's watered down Devil May Cry with climbing. It uses what it has to good effect, but the enemies are literal brainless retards.
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>>727722518
>Eldenshills defend this
KEK
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>>727723081
I wouldn't mind Elden Ring with less Warp point but with the return of Grass as a healing item. It's fuck over the PvP aspect, but I don't give two shits about FromSoft PvP since DaS2 (and I was getting sick of it even then).
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>>727723063
BG3 is an actual rpg unlike ER which is another boss rush slop game.
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>Bethesda is trash now
>Crapcom ruined and abandoned DD
>From wants to pander to le hardcore streamers and multiplayerslopfags
Are there any upcoming singleplayer fantasy games to keep an eye on?
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>>727712006
/v/ used to claim Elden Ring was going to change gaming forever.
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>>727723554
It's boss rush slop with a bunch of empty space to traverse between each boss.
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>>727722518
Been a thing since Demon's Souls (2009) btw, just like crits not working on slope, input buffering still a black box and arrows and spells slightly curving towards your character.
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>>727723626
Larian and CDPR. Euro devs do it better.
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>>727723626
Fromslop has been trash since Demon's Souls is also garbage.
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>>727712006
>dude rollslop but openworldshit
you can't pay me to play this crap
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>>727723646
Fromshills were on Bandai checks when they said that. They should be mocked for liking tranny garbage.
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>>727723046
>edited
That is just how the game looks.
Here's a random screenshot I just took right now.
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>>727723626
Fromsoft was never good. They did decent for one game: DS1 first half and then produced le heckin hardcore for casuals afterwards for about a decade now.
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>>727723350
"Watered Devil May Cry" is still good enough to shit on every other action game. And climbing should be obligatory in Action RPGs featuring big monsters, the fact what games still force you to hit the enemies toes with your sword until they die in a world that has DD is a fucking crime
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>That is just how the game looks.
Bullshit.
THIS is how the game actually looks
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yes wasn't it great
it was awesome, gorgeous, tough and we all had amazing collective fun
peak of /v/ probably, we'll never have another such title that gets the whole board playing a real video game together on this scale
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>>727723626
I remembered how terrible and unfinished Bloodborne was and faggots were praising that tranny trash as the best thing in gaming. Glad TW3 won over it that steaming pile of shit that year.
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>>727723554
>unironically simping for 5e D&D
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>>727724080
t. revisionist shill on Bandai's paycheck
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>>727712006
I'll never understand why the asshole of this site acts like everything fromsoft makes is high art.
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>>727724004
Anon, Dragon's Dogma is fine. You don't have to gas it up and pretend it's anything it isn't.
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>>727723946
Accidentally dropped my image.
>>727724005
You need to fix your graphics settings.
It shouldn't look that flat.
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>>727724280
>there are people in the year 1990+40-5 who still havn't figured out people don't play FromSoft games for the story
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>>727724329
totally not edited, nope!
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>>727724134
What about Bloodborne is unfinished?
Be specific.
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>>727712006
no. i felt pretty meh about it pre-release and legitimately walked into the game a hater but i ended up loving it. just as good as bloodborne. but not as good as demons or ds1.
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>>727724280
Why are the mentally impaired so attracted to wojacks? Not once in my time on this site have I seen one attached to a post made by someone who wasn't functionally retarded.
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>>727712006
Yeah. Phenomenal game. Some minor personal gripes in an otherwise great experience.

The primary issue is the overabundance of Graces when the Statue of Marika checkpoint system was already available. Graces should have been used far more sparingly. Probably only at the beginning and ends of dungeons and very particular spots in the Overworld.

Given the fast pace of certain bosses in the base game, and my personally dislike of rolling since I think it starts looking pretty silly depending on what you're fighting, I would have preferred if the deflection system from SotE was in the base game. Or really just if rolling was refashioned to be more of a dodge like Bloodborne. Which the game has, it's just a Ash of War for some reason

Story wise I feel like they wasted Melina and that all the questlines for the "Generic" ending were kind of pointless and didn't need to be roped into color coded endings. They should have just been their own things. I feel like the story should have somehow been more of a Melina vs Ranni dynamic, at least thematically if not directly.
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Fromdjeets still haven't recovered by the humiliation done by Borderlands of all franchises.
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>>727712006
yeah and it lived up to it. game of the century
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>>727723217
As far as I can tell there isn't much cut content for those two floating around in the game files.
Not to say that they didn't have more stuff, but to say that it was actually removed instead of floating around as vestigial game data or scripting.
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These games are more derivative and less unimaginative than fucking CoD.
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why is it that when a game does reasonably well like elden ring, it will always attract some schizo?
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Trvke
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>>727712370
Low iq normie drone
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>>727725014
Because we don't rangeban the shittier parts of the world
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Riveting gameplay
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>>727725014
Billions, and I mean billions of people with... less than civilizaed culture got access to the internet which was primarily used by western and asian countries.
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Saars please do the needful and redeem rollslop #32150354790.
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>>727724004
Devil May Cry combat sucks ass, to start with.
Nothing similar to it can be called 'great' as an action game.
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>>727725439
Hey don't post fake AI pics now buddy.
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I knew it was shit from the start since Fromdrones are terrible liars and keep shilling the same game since DeS.
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>>727724686
Demon's Souls and Sekiro have way more different than they have in common, wtf are you smoking?
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>>727712006
Yea I remember the 3 days posting like it was 3 days ago. I was mostly happy with the game but I like the older games better.
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>>727725782
>same aesthetics
>similar plots
>similar themes
>block is just replaced by parry
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>>727725634
guy's a hack
he said Elden Ring would be full of stuff he couldn't do in the Souls series, but that was a fat fucking lie. his direct quote was
>“We wanted to create a new dark fantasy action RPG full of things that we weren’t able to do in the Dark Souls series.”
meanwhile it still has
>bonfires
>level up maiden
>souls as xp
>NPCs that laugh at the end of their dialogue
>le vague mysterious deep plot
>lazy lore excuse for the player reviving
>fog gates
>crystal lizards
>lore from epic item descriptions
>healing flasks
>same UI layout
and so on and so forth. he's a one trick pony
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Oh it's just a bot thread. That's disappointing. I wanted to talk about Elden Ring.
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>>727723554
>actual rpg unlike ER
Imagine having to level a stat to talk to NPCs
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>>727725838
What are the plots between the games. Already know aesthetics, themes, and the block/parry bit is horseshit, so I at least want to hear what you (think) these games are about.
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>>727725874
You have bad taste and should refrain from posting on /v/ ever again.
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>>727725860
I'm pretty sure he was referring to the much larger levels, horse riding and spirit summons.
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>>727725860
He didn't say that it wouldn't have the things that Dark Souls does.
Elden Ring basically has everything previous Souls games do (except for Bonfire Ascetics), but adds things onto it.
Like the open world or bosses that have stronger and more present personalities and in the DLC, a questline that acts as the actual plot of the game you're playing.
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>>727725838
>similar aesthetics
>japan vs wizardry europe
>similar
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>>727726063
none of those things were incapable of being done in the Dark Souls series without breaking its core DNA
horses were even in DaS at one point. larger levels were experimented with in DS2 and DS3
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>>727726254
They could have been done, but they weren't because Fromsoft was a smaller company back then.
Elden Ring obviously has a much larger budget than any previous Souls game. So it could take everything that Fromsoft already liked to do in their games, and then add more scope to it.

DS3 killed the Souls franchise itself, intentionally so.
Elden Ring was a reset, but not a change of fundamental format, because no one wanted that. People still liked Dark Souls, Fromsoft still wanted to keep making Dark Souls, too.
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>>727726254
Have you ever thought that one of the intentions behind ER was precisely to start breaking away from Souls' DNA?
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>>727713267
I fucking love AI.
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>>727726470
>DS3 killed the Souls franchise itself
What the hell are you talking about? They brought it back after almost ruining the whole thing with DS2. I'm still waiting for DS4.
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>>727726630
It ended the world totally.
You can't make another Souls game. The entire Dark Souls universe is totally over.
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>>727712006
>Explore this
>Get a couple of herbs, a shitty ash of war and an situational physick
VGH.....KINO.....
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>>727726532
Could they at least have fixed the bugs in the combat that have been present since 2009?
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>>727726767
Such as?
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>>727726728
>Dark Souls: Origins
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>>727726914
>DS3 is already a "I KNOW WHAT THAT IS" game
>Go all in with a prequel that references every single character
It'll print millions
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>>727712193
>Image
That's just your standard open world slop. No one is shocked by this.
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>>727726848
>Enemies hitting through walls/floor as seen here >>727722518 and >>727712256
>Slopes still causing mechanics like parries, ripostes and hitboxes in general to sperg out
>Input buffers in general
>lock on still makes the camera sperg out, especially on larger enemies
>lock on still makes enemies lock onto you
just what I can recall off the bat
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>>727726728
That's only until you find out that there is an even larger cycle of creation and entropy, as time and space collapses in on itself and the last embers burn out there is a sudden burst of light and the whole cycle starts anew. They could also set it in a foreign land that exists outside of the known universe, like the painted worlds, created by an unknown entity to reenact the events of the world in an effort to solve the riddle of death and decay. John Dark Souls is merely a pawn in its game and the events of the previous games didn't even happen.
TLDR: they can write whatever the fuck they want.
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>>727727248
Sure you could do that
That is called Bloodborne or Elden Ring.
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>>727727318
BB and ER doesn't have the same theming and aesthetic I desire, ER lore barely even makes sense.
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>>727727127
>>Enemies hitting through walls/floor
That has always been intentional ever since DeS
>>Slopes
Not a bug, just FROM jank, and it's better than their previous games
>>Input buffers in general
Not a bug, that's an intentional features to punish mashing
>>lock on still makes the camera sperg out,
Again, not a bug, just FROM jank
>>lock on still makes enemies lock onto you
Not a bug, it's a literal feature and it doesn't even work like that

Again, where's the actual bugs? Because they actually fixed a shitton of old bugs in ER and they kept fixing it with every patch, the dozens of weapon swap bugs that plagued Dark Souls games (some of which also being in early ER versions) are now dead and forgotten for instance.
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I can't bring myself to play this again after beating it once while I can do my 10th+ playthrough of ds3 no issues. theres just so much bloat in elden ring
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>>727727505
>ER lore barely even makes sense.
And Dark Souls does?
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>>727712370
>call a game good
>apparently this is not enough for seething retard
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>>727714013
Blighttown is extremely fun and more importantly hectic, confusing and scary to explore. There’s not a single place in ER that elicited the same feeling of delving into the unsafe unknown
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>>727712256
Miyazaki's masterpieces

>Demon's Souls
>Dark Souls
>Bloodborne
>Sekiro
>Elden Ring
>Duskbloods
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>>727727653
It's a lot more comprehensible, not as many characters to keep track of and they don't have multiple names making it even more confusing. I understood most of it by just playing the game, ER however left me completely dumbfounded.
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>>727727534
>shit phasing through solid objects and basic mechanics like the camera or attacks not working
>"Oh it's intentional so it's fine"
I hope they scoop up whatever nerve matter you have in your skull and study it under a microscope. You truly are the best of goyslaves.
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>>727727553
>Holy Heckerino I just love going through through all 20 levels in Dark Souls 3 over and over again!
>VGH, Elden Ring is so le bloated, I have to kill two bosses and then go through four areas...I can't do this...
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>>727727731
DeS and BB and it ends there. simple as
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>>727712006
one of the games that dragged on way too long
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>>727717235
You need the PKGs for the base game and the 1.09 patch, and the most recent version of shadps4. For a vanilla experience that’s literally it
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I'm expecting Duskbloods would be the most shitposted game in /v/ history.
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>>727727960
How about trying to not to finish in one sitting
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>>727728027
>70/100
>forgotten in a week
Nightreign has proven that From is clearly at the end of their rope. The Marvel rollslop has reached critical mass and adding multiplayer will only make it worse.
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>>727727787
I'll give you that the two character monikers are completely pointless to the point of being a meme. But aside from that I fail to see what exactly is so confusing.
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>>727727843
You whined about bugs then mentioned either things that are conscious design choices (that you're allowed to like or dislike) or janky features that are nevertheless objectively less janky than they were in their previous games.
Again, what is your point here outside shitposting?
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>>727728117
They always had multiplayer
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>>727712006
i'm still hyped
time for another play through
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>>727728117
I'm only saying it since it's Nintendo and Miyazaki both of which causes this board to seethe. Duskbloods is another recipe for disaster like Nightreign.
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>>727728162
Unfortunately.
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>>727728280
Fake fan
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>>727712006
I was never hype but then played it a year+ after it released and ended up loving it
playing it literally right now
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>>727728217
Duskblood is going to be a disaster because it's a multiplayer centric game by FROM on the fucking Switch 2.
I seriously doubt FROM somehow managed to learn how to make good netcode for that game judging by how Nightreign is still the same old shit, and making it exclusive to the Switch 2 is a massive gamble since FROM's audience is not on Nintendo's platforms and whether they'll decide to fork money to turn it into a system seller remains to be seen, especially depending on how the game actually runs on the thing (it will do so poorly regardless)
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ER has some shitty fashion and no solo invasions so it's dead now, but if it had at least solo invasions you'd still be able to play it.
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>>727728153
Mechanics are not working as they should due to developer incompetence and you're framing them as intentional or "intentional design choices" due to being a coping corpo slave. I don't think you should be even allowed to discuss video games and I doubt you would even pass the captcha if this site didn't allow you to dodge it with a 4chan pass. Having "jank" was acceptable when it was 2009 and you were doing an niche AA game on a shoestring budget. By the time Dark Souls 3 rolled around all excuses were gone except for those that thought having a buggy game has some intrinsic value. From for sure doesn't consider this to be the case as they do legitimately try to fix issues like this. Too bad they are extremely incompetent on a technical level and lazy.
But all of this is just lost to you. You see a From game and think it's all intentional, all according to Miyazaki's great vision to make the game come apart at the seams atleast once every ten minutes in some new amusing way. Plague Baby looking ass nigger.
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>>727728132
It's just too much, the whole family tree of Marika's descendants, who birthed who and why do you want to help them or why do they want to kill you, the deformed step brothers in the sewers that are trying to create a portal to the shadow realm by putting a kid in a cocoon only for the kid to ascend to godhood by casting aside his flesh and driends berserk style then resurrecting his brother to kill you. Complete nonsense.
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>>727727653
Elden Ring has a lot more weird shit in it than Dark Souls does.
You get entire threads on /v/ where people debate on what the Greater Will is or what the Crucible is or what the basic timeline of the story is.
Dark Souls is vague and full of holes, but there is far less random stuff to be confused by when trying to interpret the events of the story.
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>>727728480
>fashion
>pvp
>playercount
You're like the trifecta of people From should stop catering too.
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We should have all Fromdrones executed.
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>>727712006
I wasn't hyped, I was cautious due to open world slop, and my caution paid off, the game has terrible phasing and a bunch of repeated content due to the open world.
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If you didn't beat all Nightlords solo with no relics with all classes, then you didn't beat the game
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Honestly the last time I felt a real sense of wonder in the exploration of a game
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>>727728931
Then you're easily impressed and don't play much video games.
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>>727728980
You must remember that your average 20 year old hasn't seen a generational uplift in his life and most likely lives in the third world.
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>>727728980
>>727729043
>one minute apart
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>>727728867

I think it's pretty safe to say they're the best studio of all time
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>>727712090
>wuz
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>>727713267
Original Skyrim released 14 years ago. It's pretty old now all things considered.
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>>727728931

Name 3 better
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>>727712006
I haven't been hyped for any games since the FFR reveal turned into action combat dogshit.
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>>727729089
I doubt anything I post will make you less delusional. Just know that it isn't healthy long-term.
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>>727728624
>Mechanics are not working as they should due to developer incompetence
True, FROM is still largely incompetent when it comes to anything regarding walking meshes or cameras, they're slowly getting better but they're still incompetent, what does this have to do with bugs?
>and you're framing them as intentional
Some of them are quite literally intentional whether you like it or not, which is why they've been featured in all of their games every since, melee hitboxes and some AoE go through walls and that's how it is every since DeS, that's something the player can also abuse and invaders in particular love to play around that shit, this has been true for six games by now and given how some things DELIBERATELY DO NOT GO THROUGH WALLS while others do it's clearly intentional design, which again, you are entitled to dislike much like how I dislike menu quickswapping, but they are features whether you like it or not.

So for the last time, where are these "bugs" you mentioned? Because all I'm seeing is butthurt that ER sold 40 millions and you're here seething about some irrelevant jank while whining about bugs that do not exist anymore and ignoring the actual problems ER has.
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>>727712006
I enjoyed it for a good 60ish hours, more than I can say for most AAA games in the last decade.
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Why are Fromdrones retarded and put more hours into shilling their garbage than actually playing it?
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>>727713156
it's not a bad mechanic, it's just mindless
hence why these kinds of games are very popular among retards
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>>727712256
karma
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>>727712006
why the FUCK did they bother making that gorgeous open world map without adding more than (5) NPCs to the game.
Yes it's a fun game, but it is severely let down by the fact that you barely feel like you'd changed people's lives at all. At the end of the day, it's just a boss rush without any meaning to it.
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>>727729520
Fromsoft don't have the capacity to put any effort into their worlds. They're overhyped garbage by retards who hate rpgs and video games.
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>>727728480
>solo invasions
why do people on /v/ push this meme when only Demon's Souls really had this due to the benefits of being human (having full HP) and even then someone could be summoning their friends anyway. This is even more true in Dark Souls where there isn't even a real benefit to being human so anyone running around human has people summoned. In Bloodborne you have to be ringing your bell and inviting the situation and one of those bells is there for getting co-op partners.
I did a huge amount of invading in 1 and as much as I could in Bloodborne (fight club fag game) it was usually a gank squad situation, people are really addicted to the feeling they had during the handful of times you actually found some idiot alone/managed to invade before help was summoned first
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>>727712193
nooooooooooooo
don't show that hecking imageeee
elden ring is hecking epicccc I'm exploringgggggggggg
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Why does this game make so many people seethe?? Even if you dont think it's the best thing ever it's still just a decent game.
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>>727728709
Oh right, SotE happened. Yeah at this point you're pretty much right. That DLC was a massive clusterfuck lorewise. But I don't think basegame was complex in a bad way in regards to the family tree.

>>727728783
Yeah I'm going to take back my remark. Where Dark Souls will straight up not tell you anything about certain places or events, Elden Ring will tell you just enough for it to be really fucking stupid and confusing.

But I do like the convoluted family tree dynamic from Elden Ring. I like that stuff.
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>>727729679
Because you'll realize it's straight up dogshit the longer you have been playing video games.
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>>727729679
Some people just want to be angry at something
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>>727729679
Some men just wanna watch movies
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>>727729679
Essentially /v/ has a large population of people whose personality consists of not enjoying things.
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>>727729630
I barely see anyone in these threads talk about how the RPG elements of these Souls' games are so painfully flat.
You don't get any real dialogue choices, there's like 5 NPCs, and your character is just magic or not magic and whatever clothes they're wearing.
It's like they keep building the chassis and then forgetting to add the steering wheel.
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>>727729287
I hate the company for keeping the games and mechanics within broken but I have grown a newfound white rage for retards like you that categorically defend all the broken jank that this now-AAA studio intentionally leaves into its games and then tries to sell it as features. Truly, it's not From that is to blame for the broken state of these releases. It's you and people like you that find this shit acceptable 16 years later. Were you within an arms reach I'd play your spine like a xylophone.
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>>727729679
contrarianism
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>>727729679
millenials that hate open worldslop vs zoomers that can't live without it
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>>727712193
You could make this sort of make for basically every open world game though. Like, you could do that for OoT... there's a ton of empty/pointless space scattered throughout that game, it was kind of one of the selling points back in the early 3D days. And frankly, I like to explore stuff, fighting one or two enemies at a time, the occasional miniboss, but mostly just wandering around and taking in the sights.

Overall I do prefer DS1's world design, but to be desu I prefer ER's world design over DS3. Tight but interconnected world (DS1) > open world (ER) > linear/corridor world design (DS3). Same reason Deus Ex is better than Oblivion but Oblivion is better than Call of Duty.
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>>727729679
They're overrated and not true rpgs like retards hyped them to be.
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>>727727127
I didn't think they had it in them but the lockon actually got worse in Nightreign, there's several times where it locks on to the enemy directly behind the thing aggroed on em that's right in front of me, it's weird that nobody actually criticizes this
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>>727729679
It's justified since the game is barebones and trash.
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>>727730051
>it's weird that nobody actually criticizes this
If you haven't noticed this community has zero standards for technical competence.
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>but it is severely let down by the fact that you barely feel like you'd changed people's lives at all.
Oh no, compared to other Fromsoft games Elden Ring gives the distinct impression I've ruined the lives of nearly every single person I've come in contact with, made myself sad, destroyed the last few remaining wonders in the land, and I'm now going to be hoisted upon the throne of a pretty much dead world.

It's edgy but thematically speaking The Frenzied Flame ending (Melina Lives) does sort of feel like the best one from a story telling perspective.
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>>727730189
It's Reddit but I can see how Fromslop puts alot of effort into pessimism porn rather than putting the work into making an actual world with charming characters.
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Because it's the best game since OOT 30 years ago and it makes mongoloids on /v/ very very mad

Like this retard for exemple >>727729769 you can tell he's been trapped in Fromsoft's full nelson for too long
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>>727712193
I think of myself as an actual fromshit fan and as soon as the words
>open world
Were uttered I knew the game would be shit. I think any of their actual fans knew it would be shit. From's strength isn't in le ebin boss fights. It's certainly not in trash mobs. It's in level and world design. Open World is the death of level design.
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>>727730189
How does one ruin the lives of people who live in a dead hellhole?
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Fromsloppers love to eat shit and can't take criticism the thread.
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>>727730295
BERSERK was a mistake and has unironically done more damage to Japan than the Nukes.
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>>727730428
There's more optimistic JRPGs than absolute garbage like fromslop.
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The open world map was cool for a single game but I hope they go back to a hub world with smaller levels connected to it because running through the map, even though it looks beautiful, does get a little old after the first playthrough. Overall though it was a fun experience 9/10.
Nightreign is a very fun core gameplay loop however I felt that the relic system and boss selection was quite undercooked. I feel like the side team that worked on it didn't have enough dev clout to touch some of the more acclaimed souls/ER bosses so they had to pick a lot of mediocre ones. Had a great time doing runs with anons from /v/ and /vg/ as well so I think it was worth my money and time overall 8/10,
I'm hoping TGA has more fromslop :]
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>>727730295
Fromsoft can't write for shit so that's why they rather go full masochist than write anything of value to save their lives.
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>>727730367
You destroy their home and/or get them killed.
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>>727714214
>I hate when someone shits in my mouth but I want to chew when it happens
...what?
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>>727730428
Berserk is one of the few good works of fiction to come out of that shithole
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>>727730051
Oh my god, this shit got me killed so much in Elden Ring. So many times when I hit the lock on button, it doesn't lock on to the dude in front of me, no, it locks on to the wanker all the way in the back. Making me fumble with the camera, causing a bullshit death.
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Why do retards love this series and make endless threads about it despite sharing the same qualities as the average EA release? Is /v/ under Bandai's paycheck cuck cycle?
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>>727729926
Who ever pretended they were Arcanum or whatever?
RPG doesn't mean that you're going to have dialog trees with every NPC or that you can talk the final boss into killing themselves.
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>>727730189
>I've ruined the lives of nearly every single person I've come in contact with
you mean the 5 NPCs that you said "hello" to and then listened to for 5 seconds.
It's just a very empty game, and no amount of "but it's not meant to feel like a hopeful, human world" rebuttling will change that
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>>727730747
This man has no taste, point and laugh
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>>727730862
Do you complain there isn't anyone to talk to in Super Metroid
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>>727730747
Modern EA games are genuinely less buggy than a modern From Soft release. Ubisoft would be a closer match.
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>>727730189
It's only after you kill all the baddies and restore the Elden Ring that you can begin to change the world, the game leaves that part out.
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>>727730854
those games are just action games, RPG implies that you can dream up a character and create a different experience for yourself in the game, Elden Ring just lets you change your outfit and it's just a boss rush, it is not really role-playing at all.
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>>727730949
Super Metroid did not come with a map the size of an American state and give you a horse
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>>727731074
>RPG implies that you can dream up a character and create a different experience for yourself in the game
We need to kill off the Theater Kids
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>>727730621
Most of them don't even have homes.
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>>727730747
To be honest, Fromslop can't hold the candle to EA games since their games are of lower quality.
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>>727731074
Elden Ring lets you dictate your play style and choose how you'll interact with the fate of the world.
The roleplaying is entirely mechanical and your own choice, with intrinsic pay-off.
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I never play nor bought a single Fromslop game.
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>>727731148
And Super Metroid had significantly less enemies and NPCs than Elden Ring.
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>>727730747
Best combat around.
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>>727731252
>The roleplaying is entirely mechanical
>Try to RP a stealth character
>Forced into 1vs1 fights where stealth does not work
Nice RP.
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>>727731173
what is a role-playing game to you
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>>727731354
Enough about Dragon's Dogma and DMC.
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>>727731217
Not once I'm finished with them.
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>>727731416
>kamiyaslop having good combat
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>>727727534
> That has always been intentional ever since DeS
LOL sauce please. Pretty sure that’s total bullshit.
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Looks like the fromslop defense force are squealing more than usual. Nightreign having less than favorable reviews probably stirred those pigs.
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Nice to know that Sekibornesoulsring games are still living rent-free in the delusional minds of Platinumfaggots and Nintentroons. Such obvious superiority tends to break the minds of lesser men.
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>>727712653
I'm in the same boat as you. Started playing the game a few days ago, and I'm having a blast. Going in as blind as possible and looking nothing up. Granted, this means my build might not be the most optimal in the world, but I'm still taking out lots of bosses and progressing at a smooth pace. Pic related is my character. Doing a Strength/Faith build.
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>>727731416
DD is alright but DMC? It's basically the antithesis of Souls and DD with its sandbag juggling combo meters.
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>>727731413
The Roles of a Roleplaying game has little to do with dialogue and more to do with gameplay. You create a character and the choices of class/race/equipment/etc have am effect on your capabilities.

I want to make my way through a deadly dungeon with unique solutions and abilities based on my character. Not do improv in a village for an hour.
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>>727731594
Nobody gives a shit about Nightreign just like nobody gave a shit about the original dark souls 2
nightreigncels are tourists.
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>>727731594
It takes active effort to make a game that's so broken that it's not even fun with friends. I guess it was all intentional though? So I've heard.
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>>727731679
so you're agreeing with me, role-playing is more than just clothes, it's doing things in a novel way. You just assumed I meant endless dialogue trees, when I actually meant lockpicking etc.
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>>727730360
>"empty" area with clear points of interests and vistas you can ride to in 10 seconds, Elden Ring
:|
>empty area you have to slog through for over a minute, Dark Souls
:O
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I mean, it was alright. Better than DS3 in any case.
Though the control scheme is starting to show its age. They're adding too many features for the layout without meaningfully streamlining any.
I can't believe you still pick spells the same way you did in Demon's souls, a much more slow paced game.
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>>727731385
Then as a stealth character you'd lean into light and fast crit builds to fit with your RP.
Which as it turns out are extremely strong and let you feel like an assassin rushing down a target. Chain triggering blood and/or frost melts bosses and fits entirely with an assassin build.
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very overrated demons souls is better in every way
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>>727731594
>Nightreign having less than favorable reviews
You looking at chink reviews or something?
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>>727731807
Man hit me in the head so I can experience playing this for the first time again
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>>727731886
As far as controls go, the main flaw is in spell casting being just awful to do, in a game that really likes mixed spellblade builds.
The camera still sucks as well.
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>/v/ anons are pretending to like EA over Fromsoft now
>Yet when they show FS at the game awards next week /v/ will be unusable
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>>727731998
It's funny because people who started with Elden Ring say the same thing about it
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>>727731807
DaS and DaS2 needed these empty tunnels before new areas so the game could load off the disc onto the ancient memory of the PS3. Since BB there has been no excuse.
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>>727731807
This webm reminds me, Fromsoft should get rid of farming for armor sets and weapons and replace it with set locations for full sets. Finding the Carian Armor set felt good. Finding the Tree Sentinal set felt great. But go fuck yourself if you wanted the Haligtree Greatshield.
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>>727732087
They'll say anything to rile up the fromdrones, it's just too easy.
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>>727732131
I would be happy if you had both. A guaranteed set location, and drops from farming.
So that there's actually a material gain to fighting mobs other than levels, and so you can dual wield weapons if you like them a lot.
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>>727732107
Their zoomer attention spans are so short that they probably wouldn't recognize the game if they played it again anyway
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>>727732042
It's not just spells, it's item usage as well. You get thousands of consumables in ER, but actually using them is a pain in the ass.
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>>727732087
Even the droniest Fromdrones I know aren't excited about Duskbloods.
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Years later and Elden Ring STILL has the fastest threads on the board.
How does it do it.
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>>727731771
Yes and no. If these games had gone a different route with Dark Souls and focused more on survival and dungeon traversal, with traps, secrets, and puzzles playing a bigger role and the "Rogue" classes were presented as being pick locks or something, I'd generally agree with you. Given these are pretty much action games, however, and don't really pretend to be otherwise I don't care much.

The RPG descriptor is just to describe that the stat system is used to determine your action dude's abilities and equipment.
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>>727732413
>he thinks it's gonna be duskbloods
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>>727732437
It's a cultural phenomenon, every dev wants to be From right now.
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when does bloodborne become the peak everyone says it is? done 4 bosses and a chalice so far and the bosses are all the annoying "big monster that wails in front of itself while you poke its legs" slop
also why is my captcha 20 characters long now
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>>727732503
Duskbloods is their A team priority game, anything else would be even worse.
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>>727732280
I think the reward for fighting mobs being levels, and of course progression through the map should be enough. If you wanna Dual Wield there is NG+. Which I guess for some people is a hard sell but for me personally I'd rather play through a whole, tight and fun game experience twice than have to spend an hour farming because I thought a sword or helmet on some dude looked cool.
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>>727732559
The base game already peaked. The DLC starts with Zanzibart forgive me but ends with a very good boss fight after two mediocre ones in between.
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>>727732087
It's because Japan and China are having a political spat over what someone said over Taiwan so all the bots are getting mad at Japanese devs.
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>>727732559
You have been lied to. Fromdrones are ruthless liars it seems.
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>>727732538
This is partly the reason why some people hate both Elden Ring and BotW actually.
Most game nowadays just want to be those games
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>>727712006
I loved it but I don't think it lends as well to being replayable, in that sense I'd take DS1 and DS3 over it. The quantity = quality strategy does have some merit even for replays, though.
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>>727712625
Skyrim isn't even a good game and it never was
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>>727732450
what if I told you that RPGs didn't have to be just different weapon skill numbers, and that's what RPGs actually are?
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>>727732559
DS3 is a step above BB despite being bad. BB has no peak moments and it's just trash.
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>>727732559
I think all games require some emotional investment and/or suspension of disbelief from the player in order for them to become peak. Even if it's objectively the best game in the world, If you aren't able to take in all the kino the game is throwing at you then it doesn't matter what you play. There is something wrong with you, not the game.
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>>727731314
youre missing out on the best video games the industry has to offer bro.
Fromsoft are the kings of vidya for a very good reason. no other developers come anywhere near their craftsmanship of gameplay and art.
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>>727732890
I'd tell you to get some friends and play table top instead of griping about random action games using RPG mechanics.
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>>727732793
i cant tell if its fromdrones or sonybros
bloodborne discussion seemed to die out once emulation became good which makes me think its sonybros realising the gig is up
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>>727733070
You should have used the Messmer Soldier's Shield.
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>>727731924
Doesn't change the fact that am I forced into 1vs1
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>>727733152
word, I forgot what it looks like but Ill try it out with this set next time I play.
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>>727733076
you're also on /v/, you dense retard
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>>727732538
its literally unironically the greatest game ever conceived.
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>>727733393
Okay? And? Are you trying to tell me you don't have any friends or that you don't know what a table top RPG is?
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>>727733538
which armour set is that?
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>>727733294
You have summons.
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>>727733629
I dont remember lol
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>>727733538
Looks like the character creator kicked you ass
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>>727714065
>no real penalty for dying to bosses thanks to the respawnslop
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>>727733757
I think he looks cool
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>>727733840
He would look fine if it was Oblivion
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>>727733629
okay I remember! its from those bowgun dudes that hang with the perfumers in lyndell.
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>>727712193
>Castle Sol
>Haligtree
>fun
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I hope they give up on the open world meme in their next game. ER is a bloated piece of shit.
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Soulssloppers just have no taste.
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>>727721903
Lol. Lmao, even. Color puke does not good visual design make.
>pic rel is DS1 dabbing on ER's copypasted mud cliffs
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>>727729679
Almost 11 years ago was peak console war shitposting, where Playstation got a souls exclusive that was better than Dark Souls II.
When From went back to multi-plats, no further From Release could be better than Bloodborne.

That's it, if /v/ was not going to be salty about an exclusive then Fromsoft can't make any more good games and must be considered a bad developer.
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>>727734117
Anyone that doesn't have fun with the Haligtree should be shot.
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>>727734261
come on now bro, yea DS looks great and its still a fun game since Fromgawds cant do any wrong but Elden Ring is a culmination of all they learned over the years.
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>>727734117
Haligtree was annoying for all the enemy reuse but the enemies weren't poorly implemented and the design itself was alright. Though it was a bit weird to start at the branches and descend to the roots.

Castle Sol was pretty forgettable though.
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>>727712006
It's just a hooge Dark Souls game, although the boss design is less tight than in previous games. It's definitely very alright and I think the level design shows From can produce some above quality levels now. I'd say for once a game actually lived up to the hype
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How do people get excited for the same games with the same problems as the first? You people are just as retarded as FIFAniggers and CoDfags.
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>>727734472
Carian aesthetic alone completely clears like 75% of Dark Souls' general aesthetic, absolutely adore the silver and blue clad mage-knights
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>>727712193
>Skipped out on the underground
>Not including the DLC stuff
>Not including the cool parkour opportunities in Caelid
>All the midway towns missed
Yeah it's not 100% quality content throughout the entire game but that's just how open world games are. It felt grandiose though
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you will never be a woman
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>>727734589
>Elite armor design but way worse
No it does not. This AI slop design is pure dogshit.
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>>727734484
>muh enemy reuse reeeee
bro, no other game has the sheer amount of different enemies with such complex attacks and animations such as Elden Ring. probably not even mmos lmao.
Elden Ring is also unmatched with its selection of skills, spells, armor and weapons. truly surreal what Miyazaki san (May the Lord bless his soul) and his team have accomplished.
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>>727734698
Elite Knight is a surcoat you disgusting leech, this is a robe and leather decoration over plate
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>>727734764
>all enemies have the same issues and movesets
You're not fooling anyone Fromshitter.
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and i still haven't finished it.
why does everything need mmo health bars.
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>>727712193
This. You should just teleport to the next most interesting area like it does for DS games. All that empty space is showing disrespect for the player's free time.
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>>727734764
Okay. I'm not talking about boss and enemy reuse in general in the game. I'm talking about the Haligtree. Which doesn't have a single enemy truly unique to itself outside of Malenia.
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>>727712193
The only memorable area to me is the mimic tear dungeon. Everything else might as well be AI generated slop.
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>>727734865
The game gives you a billion ways to deal retarded amounts of DPS, unfortunately
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>>727734698
Neck yourself.
Abominable taste.
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>>727734698
>>727734960
>ai generated posts
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>>727731252
>Elden Ring lets you dictate your play style and choose how you'll interact with the fate of the world.
lmao
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>>727712193
>bunch of unique dungeons not marked
>fucking windmill village marked
It's almost as if you didn't play the game.
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>>727734856
youre delusional bro, the seething hatred you feel for all that reflects strength and beauty is clouding your judgement.
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yeah, it was a great game
I only wished it was a sequel to sekiro
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>>727734454
Miyazaki should be shot for making that DLC tbqh.
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>>727735114
In regards to combat? Yeah I'd take deflection over rolling. It definitely feel way cooler.
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>>727712006
I wish there was more to the fights in Elden Ring. I do not object to the demand the game has to learn the patterns and movesets even if that is basic, but I object the necessity of death. It would be more rewarding if defensive play and retreating were viable.
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>>727712006
Many were far more excited than me
>FromSoft
I already knew from Armored Core that they either make minimal changes to the over all experience, or try something that seems drastically different for a new title. They rarely make big leaps in an existing direction I guess. I was just looking forward to more medieval fantasy realms to roam around in.
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>>727729679
>Why does this game make so many people seethe?
anons felt like the open world meme was to appeal to a wider audience and doesn't fit from soft games. and in many cases it felt like DaS2 Part 2 with its artificial difficulty. the game is big and bland. personally i don't hate it i don't love it.
>>727734270
>no further From Release could be better than Bloodborne.
lol ER is not even better than DaS3.
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>>727735035
Are you saying the game doesn't have build diversity to account for basically every play style?
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Is the DLC good? From what little I've seen it's not as pretty as Limgrave and Liurna.
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>>727727703
You were probably included for your wrong take about the dlc. It was great and more fun to explore than the base game which is also really good.
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>>727735190
Gameplay wise it wasn't bad but story wise (Miquella stuff at least) it was a dumpster fire. The Black Keep and Messmers stuff was pretty good.
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>>727735080
These games are all about beauty dying and you killing what's left of it.
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This game has the biggest honeymoon phase fall off I've known. The shill defending this crap is just one of the schizos who cry about criticisms and deflect your arguments.
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>>727735034
>>ai generated posts
Not sure what you mean by “>ai generated posts.”
Are you asking:

Why people tag posts as AI-generated?

How to identify AI-generated posts?

For me to generate posts that look like greentext (">") style?

Or are you quoting something?

Let me know what you want and I’ll follow your lead.
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Playing through again as a sorcerer this time it's easy for the most part unless you get swarmed
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>>727735328
>artificial difficulty
filtered
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>>727735368
You have no meaningful say in the fate of the world, there are two endings that matter, one is being a simp who gives the throne you fought for away and another is enacting a holocaust. All other endings are just sitting in a cuck chair with a different skybox.
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>>727735417
there is beauty in death as well bro. Elden Ring is about you becoming the lord and creator who will birth a new world.
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>>727735492
The solution? Play a Carian Sword Sorceror. Get to be a big brained wiznerd while actually engaging in the actual fun version of combat.
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>>727735434
That's why people are frothing at the mouth that the Game Awards reveal could be Elden Ring 2, right?
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>>727735580
That is an image where you are simping for a bitch who murdered a beautiful god and turned him into a cancerous abomination. It is worshipping evil and ugliness.
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>>727735379
the DLC is good, there are a LOT of pretty areas and i think rauh and ener-illim are as much of a "jawdrop" as the siofra river and stepping out to the fake starry sky, you step out almost immediately into an enormous plains with the scadutree in the distance and you see that the land of shadows being "veiled" is literal, there's a sheer sheet or film draped over the scadutree

the bosses are a condensing of the bullshit already present in base-game elden ring however so you'll be privy to stuff like the dancing lion literally never giving you an opportunity to attack unless somebody else or a summon has aggro, or the infamous (actual spoilers) promised consort radahn fight
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>>727735496
>filtered
welcome reddit. yes i love mmo tier healthbars. it's riveting gameplay.
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>>727735580
This game is about worshipping jewery or becoming the ultimate jew and killing everything off. There's nothing beautiful about that.
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>>727735625
To be fair I haven't liked any Fromsoft game that has a number in the title compared to their original ideas. So if they literally just made Elden Ring 2 gameplay wise but named and designed it after something else I'd be more excited.
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>>727735379
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
Some truly excellent set pieces and boss fights, and some really terrible ones.
The format is different. You basically are playing a hybrid linear and story driven game. NPCs matter a lot and have to be spoken to a lot to understand what is going on.
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>>727724428
>Central Yharnam is a fleshed out level with many paths and encounters
>Old Yharnam does too
>Cathedral Ward does too
>Hemwick is short but okay
>Nightmare Frontier is well developed
>Forbidden Woods is well developed
>Cainhurst takes 5 minutes to beat
>Byrgenwerth is just a building
>Upper Cathedral Ward is short
>Mergo's Nightmare is a glorified hallway
>Micolash is not even a boss
>Shadows aren't even a boss
>the entire game is really short and takes 10 hours on a normal playthrough
>every NPC quest just ends at Rom, which is 4 bosses into the game
>The DLC is mostly a boss rush, padded by difficulty
If you don't see the fall off after the Forbidden Woods you are not intelligent.
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>>727735580
Ranni is pure evil, ugly, and Jewish tho. If you're Satanic and irredeemable then it's for you.
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I really enjoy most of it, until I get to the snow zone and everything after that. Shame about the DLC too, and don't get me started on Night Reign.
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>>727735543
>no meaningful say in the fate of the world
>you only get to pick which one

It's more than
>link the fire or don't
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>>727735492
seconding using the carian sorceries, elden ring in general managed to make a lot of boring dark souls spells both visually interesting and mechanically fun, the biggest one you can play with immediately by choosing a prisoner is "magic glintblade" which is one of the homing soulmass spells but rendered instead as a DMC summoned sword

carian slicer and all derivative spells are upcycles of the farron sword sorceries from DS3 and have new ones, some ashes of war also cater to sorceries and spellswords like carian grandeur
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>>727735640
okay bro. you seem like a total retard dough lmao.
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>>727735820
holy mother of delusional seething. quality over quantity.
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Fromdrones are a special kind of retard.
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>>727735674
>mmo tier healthbars

Ah, so that's you.
>>727734865
>haven't finished it
filtered hard
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>>727735885
I wish they used Melina more or if they somehow gave her a role in the DLC. Definitely one of their most poorly implemented level up girls.
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>>727735931
The quality ends after the Forbidden Woods.
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>>727735931
>I'm happy with the tiny scraps Fromslop gave me oink oink
Fucking delusional.
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>>727735328
>Isn't better than DaS III
And implying DaS III is worst than BB is peak snoy.
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>>727712256
I don't think people should heed the opinions of a butthurt faggot crying for the 3rd year in a row about the same video
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>>727735885
Why are you retreating into ironic slop slang when you are claiming to represent the side of beauty? Seems like you're just a faggot.
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>>727735820
Thinking that every area was intended to be similarly expansive is just wishful.
Yharnam is dense because that is the heart of the game.
The dream worlds exist as islands in the void secondary to that.
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>>727736014
lol yes that's me and me being so bored i haven't finished the game in 4 years is a good argument.
i don't understand how you defend mmo health bars. it's everything that Demons Souls and Dark Souls was against.
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>>727735492
There are some bosses that really punish wizards, but having any type of good ranged ability definitely makes the game easier.
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>>727736132
So why is the Nightmare Frontier expansive and full of items and encounters with new enemies? Because it was finished.
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>>727735580
Ranni is pure satanist. That's why Miyazaki preserves her out of everything. Satanists love ugliness.
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>>727712176
This. Any kind of attempt at changing the narrative around this game, which is that it's incredible everywhere but this board which is really nothing but browns (the only type dumb enough to still post here after the clear change population quality which wouldn't matter to india/brazil because they wouldn't know what used to be anyway) and trannies (this is one of the last places they have after trump raped them all) or about 22 and younger which makes your take on gaming worthless (And claiming to be older really is just embarrassing if you're telling the truth. You are all so unbelievably raped by the internet. Gamers need to be bullied again), will never fool anyone. And it is simply a narrative you're trying to gain control over. It's not a real discussion it's just you being a fag about fromsoft. And a real discussion about any videogame is really something you fags are too far gone to even be capable of.
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>>727712006
>Fromsoft manages to consistently make good to great games for 15 years
>Somehow, this is bad and makes retards on /v/ seethe
I don't get it, you can not like the game, but why are you so mad that they are consistent and stick to what they know and what their intended audience wants?
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>>727735434
>This game has the biggest honeymoon phase fall off I've known
You're just imagining things and expecting me to go along with your fantasy.
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>>727735618
I wanted to play as a pure robed mage since I never really used magic much in this game and it's different from the usual roll and hit style.
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>>727736159
And you already got an answer
>>727735027

If they have to much health for you, your build sucks, you haven't upgraded your weapons or don't use the mechanics of the game. I'm not even talking about spirit summons.
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>>727735836
she might be evil or not. personally what I got from her character and ending is that she represents the will to create a world, a while reality which differs from the lands in between and away from the laws if creation from the greater will. her and you as her consort create a new world in a place or reality which might not even be the lands in between. that’s why the ending is called age of stars.
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How come it always feels like the same 5 people who shit on this game every time these threads pop up. Same images too. I'm not saying they're wrong, I'm just pointing it out.
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>>727712006
i honestly didnt give a shit about it then i played it and loved it, it turned into a huge game that i didnt expect thats what i really liked about it
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>>727736286
In my years of dealing with these people I've realized that most of them want From to make either shooters, Diablo clones or Devil May Cry shit.
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>>727736395
>If they have to much health for you, your build sucks
>just look it up bro
I think ER makes sense for anons who play with guides
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>>727736428
You know why
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>>727736428
>I'm not saying they're wrong
Well they are. And to answer your question you can probably guess why and it's as grim as you might think.
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>>727736502
>just look it up bro
kek, how did you ever beat Dark Souls if you can't figure out a build in Elden Ring?
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>>727736093
because you are literally unironically a dumb nigger bro. at no point does the game try to portray the greater will as good or your decision as evil. these are labels you conjured up in your smoll simple minded brown head. there is no use in entertaining you aside calling you out for what you are, a dumb nigger.
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>>727736428
Because it is. It's obsessed schizos who think they'll save gaming by shitting on popular titles on an navajo blanket weaving forum
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>>727736438
If they aren't pulling the rose-tinted standard of DaS that isn't real (I.E the game was so percise and artistic with its environmental story telling there wasn't a flagrantly annoying enemy re-use) they're usually comparing it to a combat system not seen in any other game, like one of those "ideas guy"
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>>727736509
I refuse to believe they're the same Shazam trannies that have been doing this before the game was even released.
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>>727736596
exposed. i don't play with guides. ER is like Silksong. huge health bars is filler in gaming form.
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>>727736708
You do not comprehend how easy it is for someone on welfare to do things like this.
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>>727736694
>who think they'll save gaming
That would be a noble goal but they're not even trying to convince themselves of this. They're just pests.
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>>727736631
Morgott does imply your ambition is a detriment. The golden order can exist just fine without the greater will.
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>>727736708
bro you underestimate how truly mentally ill some faggots can be.
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>>727712006
No. The dogshit that was DS3 killed the entire genre for me.
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>>727736814
kek
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>>727712193
filtered + brown
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>>727729679
It's straight up worse then their previous games. It took everything that was decent and threw it in the trash. It's just boring, imo the worst thing a game can be.

I suspect you haven't played that many games or I think you'd have the same opinion. It's like only having watched marvel slop and wondering why people think it's shit.
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The moment you finish every other game from From Software
>profound life altering experience
>"that" story moment that changes everything
>calmness and satisfaction
>insane replayability

The moment you finish ER and DaS2
>thank god it's over
>why did everything take so long to beat
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>>727736739
>also got filtered by Silksong
You're like a walking stereotype.
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>>727736819
dont know what that has to do with
my post you quoted but yea off course the tarnished’s ambition at becoming elden lord is a detriment to the established order since it means that order will change once he takes the throne.
the golden order isnt labeled by the game as neither good nor evil. it just is.
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>>727735820
Way too nitpicky
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>>727736990
>profound life altering experience
What is wrong with you.
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>>727712625
Why can't it be both? They are two of the best Open World games ever. I'd throw Zelda in there too to complete the trifecta of adventure kino
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>>727737034
The game labels the tranny twink as good and perfect but he's just a fucking cunt that wants power. The game can say whatever.
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Creepy pastas.
The one thing that helped me to finish ER was listening to endless hours of creepy pastas. the game so so boring and long, it only worked as a background game for listening to creepy pastas and other audiobooks.
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>>727737154
>What is wrong with you.
>with you.
if you didn't get that feeling with from soft games you didn't get it. it's alright.
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>>727737172
nta but Miquella has nothing to do with the Golden Order. He just studied it a bit.
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>>727737172
yea nigger you already proved what a retarded faggot you are, no need to keep repeating yourself.
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>>727737312
>>727737316
I'm just using an example about how the game's labels don't reflect the truth.
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>>727737312
Miquella is ultimately manipulative despite posturing himself as a good person
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>>727737003
>filtered by Silksong
oh boy now you got me. yeah i don't like mmos. what a burn. you must be a special type to feel any sense of achievement killing bosses with mmo healthbars doing the exact same thing for 30 minutes straight.
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>>727736708
>>727736814
>>727736931
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>>727712006
And it delivered on that hype? Yeah
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>>727712006
Talk about a letdown, the gitgud nuthuggers ruined what little fun was left, it's not even challenging, just obnoxious as bosses slide around with swords like an anime protagonist as you roll, hit them 3 times if you're lucky and that's it, that's the fucking game this genre has devolved into, fucking sad
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>>727737497
>30 minutes straight
This is some top tier bait.
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>>727737385
you dont even know what youre trying say bro. you are too fucking dumb and too dim witted to even make your shitposts entertaining so I’ll just keep quoting you as an excuse to keep posting by based and cool af screenshots.
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>>727736990
>>profound life altering experience
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>>727737619
>This is some top tier bait.
i don't like playing my games with guides. you like mmos. i don't. it ok.
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>>727712625
Oh my science I heckin' love vikangs!
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>>727736707
Look I can get the criticism about it becoming faster/boss rush like, but the games are good, and they do a fine job of iterating design each game. The evolution of DS > BB > Sekiro > ER is great
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>>727737794
Do you really want to die on the hill of
>I'm not good enough to explore and figure out things for myself.
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>>727737907
silence, jew
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>>727738024
Vikangs lost, Christ won
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>>727737993
That's stagnation not evolution.
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>>727736990
Sekiro is so insanely good I picked up the game like a year later and I could steal beat every single boss in a few tries
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the funniest thing about Elden Bore is that i legit forgot i didn't finish the game. i beat the guy at the golden tree, i thought that was the ending and when i started the snow level and realized there's more i gave up. and completely forgot about the game.
but recently when the DLC came out i was thinking, yeah maybe From soft is good with DLCs. i got the DLC and fired up my saved and... oh fuck.
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>>727738167
The DLC is not very good
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>>727738220
Rellana was pretty good
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>>727712006
Wasn't, never played it, never will.
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>>727738167
no one will believe you that you didnt go to mountaintops yet you found Mogh and accessed the dlc.
stick to the script your discord xisters fed you otherwise you’ll be even more lost.
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>>727735820
>>727724428
Another problem with Bloodborne is that nothing is explained. How was I supposed to know Micolash was a pretty bad dude?
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>>727738008
>mmo healthbars = filler
i just don't like filler in my video games. simple as. im not even hating on ER.
i do almost yearly walkthrough's of all the other games in succession. for the life of me i could never fathom playing DaS2 and ER again. if i was in charge i would instantly fix ER by decreasing all the bosses' health by 90% and the game would be 90% better and the difficulty would be exactly the same.
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>>727738083
Nords aren't Vikings. Nirn isn't Earth. Christ doesn't exist in TES.
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>>727725092
Notice how all of the games on the right are made by japs
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>>727738220
Its amazing. Its the best part of Elden Ring.
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>>727738448
and they're shit
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>>727738643
That's my point
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>>727738375
>DaS2 and ER
When DS3 has more boss health than 2?
You're not even trying to stay consistent.
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I would enjoy more scifi from soft games.
Thanks for reading
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Soulsbornes are garbage games. I will never understand how faggots defend it or play that type of trash.
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>>727725447
Please enlighten me then, what is good combat? Name 3 games
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>>727738797
Disgusting. Fromslop shouldn't touch a kino genre like they ruined fantasy for everyone.
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>>727738831
name 3 games you like
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>>727738736
>When DS3 has more boss health than 2?
>more means mmo tier
why are you defending the worst aspect of elden ring? im glad your favorite streamer told you about about that awesome meta build but most gamers don't like guides.
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>>727738895
Hyperbole is not to be taken literally.
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>>727738831
>butt hurt dumb boy hates Souls games because he can't get good!
Get good!
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>>727738337
>no one will believe you that you didnt go to mountaintops
i stopped the game the moment i started walking on the snow and realized there was a lot more.
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>>727739039
Dragon's Dogma
Baldur's Gate 2
MGS3
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>>727739041
You really fucked up, huh?
Tell me, which streamers did you watch instead of playing the game?
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>>727739148
curious
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>>727739128
>le heckin git gud
Reddit is that way.
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>>727739148
>Dragon's Dogma
lmao
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>>727739148
Proving to have better taste than the fromslop defense pig force who are sperging in this thread.
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>>727739272
Is there a reason you replied to yourself?
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>>727739215
That's exactly why you should turn around and go back.
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>>727736246
tl;dr for real
but yeah it's browns, trannies, and underage
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Rare game that lived up to the hype. Now gaming is dead. What sucks is Elden Ring like Bloodborne is a rare type of link that every other developer will understand why it sold 30 million copies. It has flaws though
>repeating bosses
>crafting
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>>727739193
>You really fucked up, huh?
you trying to meme in all your answers because you can't defend mmo health bars. i didn't even think that was controversial. you could reduce the boss health by 90% and the difficulty would still be the same.
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Imagine being this dude. Imagine being so horribly butthurt that a game you psychotically hate for no reason did well that you're still spamming threads with the same webms literal years later
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>>727739475
>It has flaws though
>>repeating bosses
>>crafting
>input rearing
>delayed attacks
>ai attacking when you heal
>infinite enemy stamina and health
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>>727739626
Whatever makes Fromsloppers mad is good in my book. You are the most sensitive retards to bait on this site for consooming absolute slop.
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>>727739475
You forgot the biggest flaw of all: open world. It contributes little to the game since all the fun stuff is in the dungeons and other traditional areas
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>>727724080
i will the first to admit this game was not for me but it was pure eye candy. the vistas were just breathtaking.
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>>727739814
That looks awful.
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>>727739680
And then you wonder why nobody ever takes you seriously.
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>>727739791
>Fromsloppers
open world is a normie magnet and old school fans don't really care about open world games.
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>>727739898
>That looks awful.
anon please. i don't even like that game. the eye candy was the only thing that kept me going.
>>727739942
do you want me to post the webms?
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>>727740007
Bloodborne is also trash.
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>>727740105
Looks like AIslop.
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>>727740007
>old school fans
erm, the term is "Souls Veterans", please get it right
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>>727740108
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>>727740105
>do you want me to post the webms?
And then you wonder why nobody ever takes you seriously.
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>>727740284
>memes
the reddit man marches on
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>>727740339
You don't even know what a meme is apparently. Nobody ever takes you seriously.
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>>727740409
>You don't even know what a meme is apparently
repeating yourself like an autist is memeing.
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the previous fromsoft games all have this action video game philosophy that you can 100% avoid all damage.

ER has the DaS2 philosophy of random shit taking smaller or bigger chunks of your HP and bosses dealing absurdly huge damage. forcing you to play this game more like a classic rpg and and less like an action game. that displeased a lot of anons.
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>>727730051
>it's weird that nobody actually criticizes this
fromdrones will only criticize this if they see it in games not made by fromsoft
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>>727725339
this is so funny
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>>727712256
13 fucking years after demon's souls and they still don't know how to code weapon collisions for enemies

absolutely embarassing garbage
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>>727713227
>its ok when elden cringe does it but we spent months seething about das2



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