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Yep, i'm thinking she's absolutely fucking USELESS
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>>727714949
more like verso and maelle are just op
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>>727714949
she's for maelle/sciel duo against simon
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>BY FAR best support in the game
>useless
Nothing that lets maelle have four turns with double damage is useless.
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>>727715026
>Simon
What level do you need to be to stand a chance? I'm about level 80 finishing up Clea's dungeon
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There's no such thing as a useless woman so long as she's fertile.
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>>727715239
I don't know, sorry. I went straight to the ending after finishing the party members' optional quests and after getting Verso ending all my drive to continue playing went poof.
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>>727715239
90s, also buff maelle and verso as much as you can.
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>>727714949
>I miss my dead husband so much and maelle can bring him back
>fucks verso
what did she mean by this?
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>>727714949
She's inarguably the best character I the game.
I'm sorry you got filtered by the tutorial.

>>727715008
Verso's my favorite character, but he's easily the worst by the endgame:
>Sciel's the best support, self-sufficient, and hits the hardest
>Lune's Lighting Dance cheeses the multi-hit early game meta, and a Fire Rage build kills everything from just skipping your turn post Act 2; you literally don't have to play the game
>Basic Maelle cheese
>Monoco has good support, and Lampmaster allows him to hit hard at a notable pace

Verso doesn't really have much. His damage is limited to the low millions, even with Sciel doubling his damage.
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>>727714949
the Kimahri of E33
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>>727716921
She's french
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>>727714949
Curse is OP
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>>727716939
Did you not use his fire weapon? Shit stacks burn so quick, it’s legitimately broken
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>>727714949
She's the best character in the game so I guess I would just say go copy your pathetic Lil maelle build and circlejerk yourself Lil guy
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>>727716939
Verso has infinite gun burns.
Literally infinite.
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She got overshadowed by monaco in supporting and in damage by verso and maelle
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>>727717429
She supports better than Monoco.
Advancing character turns is about the best skill in this game.
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>>727717662
this. getting more turns in a turn-based game is OP
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>>727714949
>3rd strongest character in the game and the best support character.
>useless

???

The worst party member is Monoco because of how much effort you have to put in to make him viable.

>>727716939
Verso has Phantom Stars, Steeled Strike and Perfect Break. All of which are busted when applied properly. He can also use Chevalum and Simon’s sword for massive damage, and his gimmick is the easiest to learn in the game. I solo’d Simon with Verso, managing to kill him before he entered his 3rd phase.
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>>727717402
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>>727716537
same. It is an above average game, but not that good
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>>727714949
>Yep, i'm thinking
I contend with that.
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>>727715008
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>>727715008
haha
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>>727716537
>>727718345
I think the post games problem is simply too much enemy reuse, there are cool unique bosses but if you finished all the character quests, most of the content will just have to recovering the same mooks again to the point I’d imagine the game being hard to replay due to it
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>>727717402
caboom
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>>727717948
>how much effort you have to put in to make him viable.
Also called
>using him
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I unlocked her like an hour ago but I don't get how she plays. She'll stay on the bench (good thing cause she's ugly)
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>>727719104
Using both Sun skills + moon skills put you in a powered up twilight mode with 75% damage increase and 2x card limit.
Cards stacks with sun skills and card use with moon skills. More cards you eat means bigger damage
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>>727718637
:)
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>>727719104
when?
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>>727719104
She's best girl, by a mile.
And she's easy to use, once you get the scythe from the battlefield she's a monster.
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>>727718642
enemy is fine
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>>727718710
Boom
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>>727714949
Every single character in this game has a busted ass setup. Which is on one hand cool that everyone is viable but also kind of defeats the purpose of having fun
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>>727718642
Game is fine.
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>>727719863
I like these characters
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>>727719684
Nah it gets a bit much
>Eveque regular
>Monolith rematch
>Forme de rouge
>Forme de bleu
>Forme de jaune
>Forme de gangbang
All one enemy, don’t even mention the fucking big bourgeon’s that are everywhere. Fun fights but it’s a bit too much having to fight every boss 3 times bare minimum
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>>727716921
Can't resist the BVC.
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>>727718642
It’s definitely a really, REALLY good game, but I think people who are calling it a perfect 10/10 are exaggerating a bit. There are flaws that rear their head, particularly in regards to the balancing and the over reliance the game places on parrying.

>>727719650
She really is. Like, holy shit. How do people think there’s even a competition for best girl? Sciel is just so good and is shockingly well written and nuanced.

She’s genuinely become my new waifu.
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How do you think the CEO feels when it's almost a certainty whatever he releases after this won't live up to the expectations? Also, if E33 got some sort of sequel would you like to see more of Renoir and Clea setting the score in the real world?
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>>727720348
>we made a great game people loved!
>let's try to make something in the same spirit and hope they like it too!
I'm guessing that's about it.
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>>727720348
The only way he can make another game that lives up to the hype is if he does a complete genre shift and makes a totally different game. Rehashing the same formula is just going to have people feeling let down unless it’s a massive improvement over the original.
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>>727714949
>Support character who can double your damage or provide a second turn is useless
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>>727720348
You just have to make something different. I’d hope that if another game in this world takes place, it’d be from the writer’s perspective with written stories becoming worlds
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>>727720504
>does a complete genre shift and makes a totally different game.
People liked the drama, just keep at it.
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>>727720608
Should be about a despotic writer trying to force a world's narrative while the characters try to fight it.
Man vs author.
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>>727720624
Oh, they can keep the drama, but a gameplay shake up would be nice. The gameplay in E33 is fine, but not the best part of it.
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>>727720151
A 10/10 hasn't meant 'a perfect game' for as long as I can remember; it's understood generally as "my highest recommendation". This is why a game like E33 can have its flaws (like the Act 3 balancing) and still end up being a 10/10, or the proverbial '11/10' as it has been for me.

>over-reliance on parrying
Not really? You can just dodge.
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>>727721203
There’s no benefit to dodging when parrying gives you free damage. Also, Simon is designed in such a way that you NEED to parry to beat him unless you make an autistically optimised cheese build.
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>>727717662
act 3 is trivialized with the player finally having access to extreme dmg skills and the pictos that fill up the break bar upon your death. You can skip enemies turns that way while using monoco to apply every buff to every ally with one skill while applying shield of greater defenceless to the enemy. Sciel shines in Act 2 where turn skipping actually matters and dmg dealers like maelle are gimped because of 9999 dmg limit
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>>727716921
She explicitly says that when rejecting verso for asking for a snuggle.
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>>727721828
And fucks him anyway
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>>727720348
the fanbase that will make it near impossible for them to deliver in the same way a second time, but I think that CEO guy understands that well enough he seems down to earth and will probably just continue to create what he likes
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I wonder how Guillaume Broche must feel when he realizes he has already reached his peak.
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>>727716921
She fucked verso before she knew her husband could come back
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>>727721794
The Painted Power Picto itself should have had a cap. Maybe 1 or 2 million?
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>>727721985
she fucked him again after knowing for one final hookup
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>>727721928
>t. didn't read the text
They literally didn't have seggs then or after that point. It literally says they had "other fun" or something like that.
Verso got blue balled at the end.
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>>727714949
She has a useful ability to give Maelle double damage. Maelle for Smash Bros 6!
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I liked rotating the characters and figuring all of them out as I went.
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>>727721985
>>727722059
People are complicated. Despite what she says, I get the impression she genuinely liked Verso. Maybe not as much as her husband, but she obviously had romantic interest in him. Plus, she’s French and they’ve historically been a bit more flexible about the idea of sleeping around.

>>727722095
Your naivety is adorable.
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>>727714949
I like this game, but it's yet more proof to how insufferable I find euro culture. Thank god anglos rule the world.
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>>727714949
Any mod to remove her disgusting mole?
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>>727722492
based
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Sciel is genuinely the hottest girl in the game. Maelle is a close second, but she can’t beat Sciel’s top-tier personality, ass and general motherly tomboy vibe.
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>>727722020
Personally I think they should have adjusted the first damage cap to 5 nines instead of 4. It's really easy to start capping in act 2, and once that happens you do the standard thing in jrpg of swapping to attacks that have more lines of damage to hit as hard as possible. Of course this would also need to come with an adjustment to enemy hp so bosses don't melt unless you manage to consistently hit 5 nines.
As for act 3, there's no good way to balance it because of the world of ruin approach. Because you can do anything in any order at that point, there's no power level the devs can expect the player to be for a given area. I don't think this is a bad thing. I like breaking these kind of games, but i can see how people get disappointed when it happens so easily. And adding a damage cap to painted power would run into the same problem act 2 has, unless you add another skill to break the damage cap even further after beating the game but then players would rush the final dungeon to break the cap.
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She's a great support, and can sometimes really fuck up certain enemies. My team was almost always Verso, Maelle, and Sciel. I wanted to use Monoco more but he felt too finicky and weird, plus Maelle and Verso were already S tier damage dealers

>>727716537
I accidentally ended the game as soon as possible, didn't know that returning to Lumiere would lock you into seeing it through to the end. I feel like I missed out on a ton of stuff, seeing all this talk about super bosses and all that. But I'm gonna wait for the DLCs before replaying it
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>>727722949
They could have made the final boss scale to the player’s level, which is literally what they did when you first fight him for the jump tutorial in the manor.

Either way, the fact that final Renoir only has 2 million HP is a joke considering the amount of damage you can deal with minimal set up at that point.
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>>727722351
>Thank god anglos rule the world.
*laughs in chinese century*
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>>727719104
She's more complicated to use well than the other characters, but not nearly as complicated as it seems at first
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>>727714949

You probably just used her wrong. She is there to help you skip the cue.
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>>727714949
i cant be assed to remember the names of mechanics, but she was basically 1million+ damage every time she got to 10 stacks. very OP character in fights that last longer than 5 turns.
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>>727722817
>motherly tomboy vibe.
you coomers are so fucking weird
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>>727714949
Why is her skull so wide?
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>>727723172
Lol maybe in a couple hundred years when they get their shit together, most of China is still undeveloped and the majority of them are still learning how to behave around cars and trains, much like India. Right now China has the gayest possible form of national socialism
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>>727722107
Man the gap between the weapons you get for beating/losing to Sciel for Maelle compared to everyone else is insane
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>>727714949
>Full team buffs
>Can give a character a turn
>Can make them do double damage on said turn

Even if you ignore all of the insane damage she can do with her abilities, Sciel's support alone is insane. Pair her with Maelle and you can easily one shot Simon without even being smart with your builds.

None of the party members are useless. At most, Monoco is a bit lesser simply because he takes a lot more work to get up and running/he actually requires thought. But even then he can absolutely wreck anything in the game. I carried him through the entire endless tower just to make sure he got every ability possible, and I was dumb as shit with how I used him. He still cleared shit easy.
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She's the best buffer in the game and sets up Maelle for oneshots.I just swapped Maelle out for Verso because the game got too easy, and it felt more kino to hit Judgement cuts on Verso, like the game was meant to be played.
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>>727723569
>everyone gets killed
>Sciel randomly decides to start fighting in the bloodsport arena for the entertainment of monsters
Kinda weird, why was she like this
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>>727724318
>Kinda weird, why was she like this
Because she became a suicidal nihilist after her husband died earlier than his Grommage
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>Everyone gets fucking wiped second one of getting to the main land
>Manage to barely escape
>Stumble across the Gestrals who probably have food, water, and basically trade with/respect anyone that can show power through force
>Stop and fight for a bit in the arena either to get your bearings, or because fuck it, it's fun and there's no point in doing anything else since you're all that's left (to her knowledge)

That's what I figured. Sciel is also very much the type where death happens, and you move on. She will die when she dies, until then she will enjoy life and live for what's in the moment. In that moment, the entire expedition crashed and burned, she was alone, and there's an arena to fight in. Fuck it, right? But then Gustave, Maelle, and Lune pop up and it's like, oh, shit's still on. Cool, let's get back to it.
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>>727724897
Sciel’s entire thing is that ever since she lost Pierre and her baby, she stopped giving a fuck whether she lived or died (hence why she went on the Expedition). Her most famous quote is “death is a friend who will welcome me home”, afterall. It makes sense she’d just fight until she died.

It’s also why I think Verso romancing her makes more sense than romancing Lune. Not only is there more chemistry there, but there’s also a parallel there of their longing for death.
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How quickly do you think the party makes it to the paintress? Considering that a lot of the former expeditions die well before reaching their time limit, it got me curious. There isn't a lot that the group does in terms of main story between setting sail and winning.
>land on dark shores
>gustave gets through the spring meadows
>regroup with maelle at flying waters
>go to the gestral village to pick up sciel
>hit up esquie's nest
>gustave gets killed at stone wave cliffs
>verso leads the group through the forgotten battlefield
>pick up monoco at his station
>stand off with renoir at old lumiere
>grab the two axon materials
>monolith
There's a few mandatory camp scenes between each story beat, but even putting a camp scene between each story beat that makes it seem like the trip only took 10 days, which really speaks to the incompetency of the other groups that took their whole year. I don't remember if the group ever brought up reaching the time limit so it's safe to assume they weren't close to taking the whole year.
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>>727725423
You forgot all the time they spent playing volleyball with gestrals and trying to complete challenging gestral obstacle courses.
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>>727725423
Depends how many optional areas they dipped their heads into really. Plus, it’s also safe to assume that any time you go to the camp, a day passes. I’d say it likely took them a couple of weeks at least. As for why it took the others so long, they didn’t have a Lumina converter. Gustave’s invention, Verso’s guidance and Maelle’s presence are what made the difference and won the victory.
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>>727714949
In regular play her damage is eh, I was more annoyed by her mechanic and I could never get her to sync right with others. Its funny though for those 100x health videos shes like the only character that makes those fights doable in a timely manner with her infinite scaling.
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>>727725720
>her damage is eh

Even early on, I was shocked at how high her damage was, and once you factor card stacking into that, it gets ridiculous. She’s just as good a damage dealer as she is support.
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>>727715239
i love lune and had a bomb ass build for her
>weapon that gives light stains
>drop tsunami
>ultra buff everyone/slow enemy
>have 1 ice stain, 2 light
>drop hell, obliterate everyone
simon got like 2 turns before he went down.
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>spends the entirety of act 2 hitting 9999x7 while being completely self-sufficient with AP
really makes you wonder if people actually read the skill descriptions and character tutorials at all
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>>727727738
Sciel is one of the most difficult characters to learn, so some people benched her before they realised just how broken she was.
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>>727720151
>The game isn't pefect because of the balancing.
You can also avoid spaming Luminas points and the game becomes immediately more challenging.

I restarted a game from zero without adding any additional Luminas (except the ones from the levels up) and i'm having a lot of fun, foes last longer and final boss was so much more enjoyable.

I think additional Luminas points are here to prevent casual players from droping the game. Now i don't know if i gonna be able to do all the end game challenges like that (especially Simon) but i gonna try.
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>open thread for images of my wife
>zero (0) images
get it together, /v/
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>>727714949
I copied a maelle+sciel build from a guy on youtube and can one shot every single enemy in the game in 1 turn so she's useful if you want to cheese the game, especially simon
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>>727720151
>the over reliance the game places on parrying
I beat the whole game by dodging 90% of the attacks instead of parrying and it was fairly easy.
I legit don't get why people force themselves to parry everything and then criticize it for being a parry game.
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>>727731265
I actually played the game twice and found it was far easier to play when I actually decided to parry instead of dodging. Both at max difficulty
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>>727728604
If thinking about huge COCKS all day makes you racist, you would be the grand wizard of the fucking KKK
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>>727729962
Apologies, won't happen again.
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>>727725423
a few months, maybe?...
the amount of mandatory camp breaks gameplay-wise is obviously irrelevant. Maelle must have spent at least a week in the manor, bonding with Noco and the Curator, even though there was only a single camp break before we get her back.
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>>727716939
>but he's easily the worst by the endgame



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