Why is he the most fleshed out character in all of Elder Scrolls?
Somebody had to be
>>727716657Because morrowind has by far the most complex and interesting lore of any elder scrolls game and vivec was the primary lens through which we were allowed to see the lore (since a large chunk of the history books were written by him or based on his rambling)
I think the concept of "The world is a dream and people wake up by reaching enlightenment" is a really cool concept.Personally I think Miraak probably achieved something similar but chose to powergame instead of do the main story.
>>727716657He's innocent and never killed Nerevar.
>>727716657The same reason why whitebois take estrogen
>>727716657He's guilty and killed Nerevar.
>>727716657>No, I don't have a problem with argonians, some of my best slaves were argonian.He's based.
>>727717175>>727717375he is bothduring his apotheosis (sermon 37)>The light bent, and somewhere a history was finally undone. Of it, Vivec remembered the laughing of the netchimen of his village when the hunts were good. He marched with his father in the ash, growing strong in the hooks and sail, able to run a junk through silt. At eleven, he sung to an ashkhan. He became sick after Red Mountain, with the nix-blood and fever, and was infirm a hundred years. His mother survived him and laid his body at the altar of Padhome. She gave him her skin to wear into the underworld. history above was both undone and not undonehe was both born a god and not
>>727717494Are you an idiot?
>>727717947this sounds like nonsense he made up but shit like that has happened before in the Elder Scrolls universe, like with the Warp in the West so I'm inclined to believe he actually did it somehow
>>727717947>Both are true>But I will hunt down anyone who believes the part that doesn't benefit me>Also fuck you, you're not the real Nerevar, just some cheap copy that fits the bill, you can't join the demigod club for cool kids. I don't care if Azura chose you, now go fuck Lorkhan's heart up so we can make as big of a mess as letting Dagoth winNah, he's getting in the soulgem
>>727716657That fucking freak has a pussy and a dick
>>727718127vivec theme is the duality and hunger for experience (like slaneesh one).being both, experiencing both is a heaven to himalso dragonbreak happened back then according to sermon 37 so it wouldn't be strange.I like the description and how bittersweet it is in picrel
>>727718664>But I will hunt down anyone who believes the part that doesn't benefit meI remember you being able to ask him why he did that in the game, but I can't remember his response for the life of me.
>>727721065his response was that until the real nerevar comes prophecies are worthless and only make people doubt tribunal more and make it harder to defend against dagoth ur
>>727717040it's not about "waking up," it's a matter of realizing you never existed to begin with, and the concept is basically stolne wholesale from buddhism.Perhaps its no surprise that a japanese skyrim modder was the one able to do the most with the concept seeing as he would probably be a bit more familiar with it to begin with.
>>727721904Vicn?
>>727722063yeah. Dude made an entire DLC-sized quest mod about making things stop existing.
>>727717040>>727721904you are both a bit wrong.its about two things.the first is realizing that your entire existence is basically just some being's thoughts of you.the second is to take control of your existence and essentially become a thought that the being cannot forget.a tune that won't leave their heada memory that can never fadeif you "die" you basically force the being thinking you to go back and remember you from a saved point in time.That's what CHIM and the save/load game mechanics are.You go from being a powerless memetic entity to a living one able to fight for its own existence within the thoughts of those it inhabits.
I'm a fan of the theory that Vivec never achieved CHIM, but in his pride could never admit it, not even to himself.
>>727725572He just isn't powerful enough for it. Is there even a once mortal confirmed to chim aside from Talos?
>>727725893literally every player, anon.you can CHIM as save and load.>>727725572he is on some level of it because he became aware of the nature of the world, AND he managed to do some utterly retarded reality bending feats that didn't involve the use of magic, like the meteor he suspended in time.Time seems to be a central thing of what CHIM lets you mess with.>>727725893Thing is, by morrowind he is drained from not getting to top up on the heart of lorkhan due to dagoth ur blocking the tribunal from accessing it.
>>727717494If you're going to post the shitty meme version of a character at least know the difference between Vivec and fucking Dagoth Ur you retard
>>727725572I think people misunderstand him, he didn't achieve CHIM but he achieved understanding of CHIM which gives him a great insight about how Mundus works and his place in it, that's why he doesn't care about the loss of his divine powers
Vivec will never come close to talos, an enantiomorphic oversoul of shezzarrines.Vehk is a puny child by comparison.
How the fuck did Almalexia fight off Mehrunes Dagon anyways
>>727726801battlesex
>>727726801she was strangling him and tanking the damage while sotha sil was doing his thing.it was two vs one, and supposedly the poison from the daedra is a big part of why she went mad with power.
