The new bosses are kino. Why is this DLC mixed on steam? Its the same price as Ashes of Ariandel which was similarly small. Not sure what people were expecting.
>zanzibartian boss design
The new characters suck and shifting maps is garbage. Doesn't help that boss fights are mmo tier bland.
>>727718397Dreglord is pretty Zanzibart coded. He's like a mix of Nito, Gael, and Headless Ape
ZANZIBARTOOOOO
>>727718445>boss fights are mmo tier blandI really liked both of them. What don't you like about them?
>>727718473I really need to replay Sekiro soon. Its been a minute.
>>727718318>no SotE weapons>no SotE spells>no SotE talismans>no SotE consumables>only ported over 1 remembrance boss from SotE>no Dark Souls 2 boss>still missing bosses from the base game>no new night bosses for the old bosses>no new seeds with the new POIs or raids for the old bosses>can't even play the new map with the old bosses>new bosses and map are unavailable in Deep of Night>no new skins for the old charactersVery little variety for a game that's meant to be about replayability >priceThe main game is $40, this DLC is almost half that and does not have anywhere near half the content that the game came with
>>727718318There's basically no integration of the new content into the old, so you've got some decent new PoIs and night bosses but you'll only ever see them if you run Balancers or Dreglord.The new raids and map are also complete ass, but I guess on the upside the lack of integration of the new content means you'll at least never have to deal with them when fighting old bosses.The characters are also a mixed bag, Undertaker seems fine but Scholar feels like a complete lemon.
>>727718889for $15 its not any smaller than what that got you in ashes of ariandel. I feel like a lot of people were expecting way too much when Nightreign is a budget title. They're on record saying that this game has very strict time and money restraints.>no SotE weapons>no SotE spells>no SotE talismans>no SotE consumablesHaven't they said those are coming in a later balance patch?
>>727719119>Haven't they said those are coming in a later balance patch?Not exactly, Ishizaki said in an interview with some Chinese site that they're looking into "fixing" weaker characters by adding more equipment but that's about itAshes of Ariandel was also mixed when it came out btw
>>727718920>scholar feels like a complete lemonReally? I haven't tried him out in Deep of Night yet, but being able to buff your entire party with crab/exalted flesh/turtle neck on steroids feels really strong vs the two new bosses and completely trivializes everything else. Also his ult is stupidly good vs anything with multiple bosses and lets you kill a ton of free shit while you're farming the map.
>>727719265w-why is it so big
I can't beat the balancers, I just can't figure out how to dodge properly in the clusterfuck of adds
>>727718318Asking extra money for a DLC for a DLC is just insane. Literally ubishit tier practices.
15 dollars for ugly characters and shit weapons.
>>727719437>for a DLC for a DLCNightreign is a separate game from Elden Ring, stinky
>>727718318i haven't played it yet, did they change the base map? are you still in like Limgrave? I thought the base game was such a cheap product all the matches were the same, running around from POI to POI, you know exactly what enemies and bosses are in every POI. the game needed so much more randomness maybe the DLC fixed it, and it isn't just 2 more characters and 2 more bosses or whatever
>>727719293I've really enjoyed playing as scholar. Fire pots at level 3 do a lot of damage. I helped some people beat Balancers last night with him.
>>727719324The key is to avoid the pink one. If you are the one being targeted you should be kiting. If someone else is being targeted focus on killing the non pink valkyries
>>727719530The DLC gives you a new shifting earth which has a completely new, more complex map. It is very vertically oriented. 6 new bosses total, 2 of which are new day 3 bosses. They also killed the ever goal meta.
>>727719530i also got bored with the base map after playing it a ton. the new shifting earth truly feels like a 'new' map. people are bitching because there's a ton of verticality and it's difficult to decipher (and being charitable to the loudmouthed stinkies, the player-map is pretty bad), but the game finally feels fresh again and i'm pretty jazzed about it
Every single time I have to respawn in the new map this shit happens.
>>727719293If you look at the effects of the good level 3 items then sure it seems strong, but how much time are you wasting every single run breaking chests and eating shit off the ground, wasting grease on nothing and ultimately rerouting to merchants to buy a pouch and firebombs because everything drops in singles and there's 300 consumables diluting the pool?
If you start a 3 guys expedition and 1 leaves early on, does the difficulty remain at 3 guys level? Because I just beat one like that plus it was the first online one I beat at all lol
>>727718318I get not liking the fact they didn't add any new weapons but a lot of the other negative reviews are people getting filtered by the new map and not understanding how to play the new characters.There was also some retard that added in his negative review that "FROM Soft. is officially participating in the mass idiocracy of Dark Souls II hatred, as none of the new character skins and night bosses have any DSII representation" lol
>>727718889I wish the new map was integrated with depth of night but I understand that they need to sell it as DLC.Since depth of night is a random pull I don't see why they couldn't put the new shit in there. Then you may have a CHANCE to get the new shit for free but no guarantee if you match with somebody that has it. I really prefer the random mode over picking from the menu. But it isn't that big of a deal. I can just see myself potentially not playing the DLC as much.
Demon Prince is a really random boss to bring back. To be honest I forgot it even existed until Pain/Below popped up.
>>727721813I always liked him because he's like an upgraded firebrand from ghosts n goblins. It's also cool to have the phase 2 be a later fight.
>>727720928The only important consumables are foods, and you can max those at a merchant by buying 1k turtle necks. Wraith Calling Bell is pretty good too and you can either start with it through a relic or find them at graveyards, and since it's a reusable you just need one.
>>727718529You won’t get an answer as they have never played the game let alone the dlc
>>727720928The merchant bit is right, you kinda need to path to them early on, especially if you wanna be more useful and spam pots for night 1/2 bosses. And the 'autistically running into boxes/eating useless shit off the floor' tax exists, but is also offset by how strong Scholar's ult is vs most shitter bosses, especially with the story relic that gives you charge when you kill stuff and it's up all the time. I haven't had any runs where it seemed to stop the squad from hitting 15 that weren't doomed for other reasons.
>>727721439DSII representation matters ER chud, DSIIphobia has no place in our community
>>727719320That’s where the Faith is stored
>>727722585Seriously is there actually some epic loot route that makes it all worth it or is the new map just hard mode?
>>727722896The best run I've had ignored basically everything and just rushed the two boss rush towers. Those two POIs seem to be where 99% of the map's good drops are at.
>>727722585How are people dying to falling so much? Are these retards just not looking at the map or the world itself???
>>727720928>New character encourages variety in gameplay routingSounds good to meNow just rework revenants passive so that she can store and summon 1 enemy on demand so it actually does something in nightlord fights, even if its just taking one attack and dying like the rest of the family.
>>727723754It really doesn't change the routing though, it just means you're trailing behind your teammates because they can just grab the shit they actually want from each PoI and move on while you're hoovering up the prawns and throwing lightning pots on the ground and paying the merchant your pouch tax so that when you get to night 3 for one phase of the fight you can be comparable to a duchess or recluse who found a single decent staff.
The new map is just ass. The crystal gimmick is stupid -- they should be marked on day one. I like the new pois on the old map, but because From puts basically negative effort into the game, its just a couple new maps, so you don't see them with the old shifting earths or anything that would meaningfully add variety. The fucking dog invasion is also a complete run ruiner. maybe the worst part though is the complete lack of any character buffs. Iron eye is still far and away the best character. Revenan's ghosts are still basically useless on DoN. It's funny that most of the negative reviews are just because they didn't add weapons, but since everything has standardized movesets adding new weapons really isn't that important.
is there a way to cancel ironjar aromatic? trying to level perfumes as scholar seems a bit cancerous.
>>727720170People are going to "figure out" the new map in a week and it'll be even worse, since there is no actually variety in the map and the only goal is the forts on the side, it's going to be literally the same run every time.
>>727725036>It's funny that most of the negative reviews are just because they didn't add weapons, but since everything has standardized movesets adding new weapons really isn't that important.what they probably mean are weapons with unique weapon arts that aren't in the game yet like all the SOTE ones
>>727725036SotE added several new weapon categories even if you want to ignore different skills, scaling, affinities, unique attacks and what notThey'd also have added effects to the legendaries
>>727726275i'd love to use a light GS with Duchess
>>727722896What's usually worked for me the last few runs was>Spend the first day going after the easier field bosses + church's. If you go on the lower level the boss placement is usually pretty dense so you can get a good few drops.>Usually can hit like two to three crystals if you keep your eyes peeled>Day two, open the crystal ASAP then bum rush either of the towers/castles and kill the bosses there.>Bonus murk if you're able to make it to the end of the boss rush and absorb the runeThe biggest mistake I did on the first few runs was immediately rushing to the nearest tower to try and get some of the easier bosses, only to get my ass kicked by the curse and the new dlc stuff.
>>727726365was very strongly hoping for LGS additions, rellana's swords and leda's sword were built for recluse and duchess could still get milage out of rellana's magic sword and milady
>>727718318>killed the gaol/invader metathank god, that shit was so fucking boring
Are the new nightfarers fun?Haven't bought it yet cause been on Arc raiders, but I put a lot of time into base game.I've been wanting a STR/FTH character for a while, so its not just my dick talking when I want to play her.
>>727728272what did it change I havent played yet
>>727729498Undertaker is a pretty straightforward str/fth. You can roll weapon respecs on normal relics now, so you can change her preferred weapon to seal if you want to go all in on faith.Scholar is so goofy consumables-focused support character. Can't really tell if he's good or not, but he's got a parry that can stagger bosses so that's fun.
Does anyone try to use Undertaker's super trance? I don't see a point of using it over just using her ult instead. Auto-dodge is neat but if I'm fighting a boss, I would rather just stagger it out of some AOE bullshit its about to do instead of taking no damage for a few seconds. You do the same thing using the ult while also damaging the boss. I guess, if your companions are both down, you can do it to rez them?
>>727729708>weapon respects on normal relicsWait what?>ScholarScholar seems weird, so much so that even if he sucks, I appreciate them trying something like that with him. It at least seems like it will make people use items more often than just starlight shards.
>>727729914Yeah, it's best for reviving. I've had enough time to bring up a 3bar, run over to a 1bar and revive them too, and still had enough juice left to mash on the boss a bit.
>>727730039>>weapon respects on normal relics>Wait what?If you haven't been keeping up with nightreign, there's a new mode with exclusive relic effects that let you fuck around your character stats or preferred loot pool. With the DLC release, those effects can be used in the normal mode too.
>>727728272>>727729517It's actually still "mostly" fine if you're playing DoN, but the new map has no gaols and invaders are pretty much non-existent (ive never seen them spawn but have seen people say they can), so if you get that shifting earth event or you're intentionally running it for the new fun stuff, you're out a third of your guaranteed damage potential if you're one of those types that always used it as a crutch.
>>727729517new map just doesn't have any gaols
>>727730517Deep of Night is around when I stopped playing.I put like 200 hrs in before that, so I was kind of getting a little burnt out a bit.But yeah sounds pretty cool to try. Maybe I can more reliably get decent rev weapons now.
>>727730929I've seen invaders a few times, they're not terribly uncommon. Usually in the ruins towards the south-center of the map that aren't marked on the map.Remember that they're relatively rare on the regular map too when you're not playing deep of night.
>>727718318I'm trying to do this solo and rarely get past the first level. Is the Bell Bearing Hunter the most Overtuned POS in the whole game or am I just shit?
>>727731670he's the meme filter boss of the game, yeah
>>727731670If you're solo you'll have a bit of trouble early game, try focusing more on exploration/camps before spending the entire day on one boss.Also bell bearing hunter is a meme. They for some reason removed the animation for him getting staggered, so on top of all of his stat boosts he also can't really be staggeredEven in full lobbies I usually dont fight him.
>>727732173Noted. Makes sense. So what the fuck do i do if he's the boss of the first day? Quit and start over?
>>727732173>>727732253Uh, no, he does get staggered. He has a lot of poise, but you can stagger him. He's actually not that hard, even if you're not wylder (where he can just parry him over and over). You have to learn to be mid-range on him. Go too far away and he'll do his red sword sweeps, so you have to be close to him. Don't mash attack, keep trying to get behind him and bait him into using his shield bash. Then you can backstep and unload on him for a good few hits. You can keep doing that over and over as long as you keep some stamina in case he decides to do a quick sword stab on you.
>>727732253the best way to handle him is to try to stay behind him and bait the shield slamif you end up at range and he starts doing his telekinetic sword mixups then you simply suffer
>>727729498Untertaker is extremely fun she flies and helps people, and she's literally "ultimate spam: the character (2 different ults btw)" which is actually nuts.
>>727731670The night boss version of BBH is easy, you're just playing like shit
>Do the new bosses once a piece>already bored againit's just not interesting as a roguelike
>>727732253Real niggas melt his ass, he jobs hard if there is a recluse in the party, just don't die too much.It's always a good choice to avoid him if you are not level 8-10 or can't dodge his shit tho.
>>727732173>Also bell bearing hunter is a meme. They for some reason removed the animation for him getting staggered, so on top of all of his stat boosts he also can't really be staggeredThis is something that retards regurgitate without understanding what it means. BBH has always been a poise monster, they didn't remove any animation. He can still get stance broken after enough damage and even micro-staggered after a parry.The only animation he's missing is for the stagger from Nightfarer ults which is he just shrugs them off but that's not what makes him hard. Grafted Scion is also missing that animation and nobody complains about it.
No Erdtree weapons is kinda insane. When are they gonna add them then?What confuses me about this game is that it was apparently made with like 10 people a janitor and spare tape, made fucking bank, and then for the DLC they can't get anyone else to fucking work on it? Very confusing development.
>>727718445>>727718920>>727729498>>727730039The new characters are both very good and Scholar might even be more OP than Ironeye if played correctly.>ult that helps to delete half of the enemies at a PoI, makes attacks heal you and can even revive downed players>eat a bunch of stuff and crab meat suddenly gives a 30% health boost>ability that debuffs the enemy by 30% and can buff yourself/allies as well as parry any attack>50 arcane, procs status effects in one or two hitsHe's not for unga bunga players but a very busted support
>>727718318It's pretty apparent that Nightreign should've been updated for much longer and more often but they didn't and people are naturally frustrated by that
>>727725629Nah, you've got the two forts, towers, catacombs with dupe coffin, ruins and that whole lower section on the right everyone ignores. And the forts are huge, with multiple drops from enemies, talisman chests, two full bosses and secret "variant" bosses that show up after you killed a bunch of stuff in them. They might be better than the towers with their 3 night bosses if routed well.You also need to break the four differenly placed crystals if you don't want half health for the forts and towers.And then there's the two nightlord events that also make your route differently.
>>727733197I wouldn't go as far as to see he's better than Ironeye, but yeah he fits into the same role that Ironeye does. It would better to have Scholar+Ironeye than the double Ironeye shit that randoms always love to run.
BEAST
>>727733197I'd rather have an Ironeye over a Scholar because the Ironeye>also clears half the enemies in a PoI with an ult, but his will also stagger the boss and instantly reliably revive anyone downed in the area>doesn't need to waste items and time boosting survivability because he becomes immortal and gets out of dodge with one single instant skill use, which also increases damage for everyone without even any relic investment>can still trigger procs a little slower but safer from a great distance and also just deal plenty of regular damage to bosses that are status immune
>>727733905Ironeye can't reduce an enemies damage or increase allies health or stamina.But he is a lot easier to play for shitters.
>>727732567or, just parry him makes life way easier
Undertaker bunda
>>727734160>also clears half the enemies in a PoI with an ultGood luck finding them all lined up. And it doesn't heal you.>waste itemsAs if you were actually going to use them.Ironeye is just dps, not a support of any kind.Also DoN doesn't count because it's a retarded gamemode that invalidates more than half the game's content.
>>727734323ok I parried him, now what
>spend 10 years copypasting weapons with slightly different stats>release what is objectively just Elden Ring with mods>don't include SotE weapons>release a new area>map is unreadable>traversal is unreadable >dying from a fall puts you on the other side of the map's hemisphere>ice hail storms >tricephalos dogs>both new characters are so OP theres no reason to use half the previous rosterits garbage, and I like nightreign.
Scholar is another griefer tier throw pick but other than that it's good.
>>727735102>both new characters are so OP>Scholar is another griefer tier throw pickThe duality of /v/One is too retarded to learn a new map and one is too retarded to learn a new character.
>>727735102>objectively just Elden Ring with modsif only the mods were half as good as the nightbossesevery souls overhaul or conversion mod is pure trash and the modders should be flailed
>>727735292Anon>C in all dmg stats>His skill wants him to stand still and do 0 DPS just to give irrelevant buffs/debuffs>To take advantage of Bagcraft you have to jack off looting crates and stopping at Merchants all day longHe's fucking bad. He's another zero DPs support throw pick like Guardian.
>>727735292Scholar requires you to have game knowledge and good team synergy, which 90% of the playerbase doesn't have. The new map and effects are objectivley not worth the trouble of doing themthe only "throw" pick is revenant
>>727735428At least Rev can drop S scaled Incants if she gets a good one. Guardian and Scholar is GENUINE zero DPS.
Fire dogs is such a shit raid
>>727735427>irrelevant buffs/debuffs>throw pick like Guardian.holy shit lmfao you literally don't know how to play the game>>727735502its almost like theres not supposed to be 3 DPS you fucking retard
>>727735565Anon 10% damage res is worthless. 60% damage for ONE HIT is also garbage. +20% stamina is garbage. They also barely last any time at all. They're all trash and you have to stand around at risk and doing zero DPS to use them. His ult is solid but that's all he has going for him.
>>727735565>its almost like theres not supposed to be 3 DPS you fucking retardAnon, the game is under a time limit. 3 DPS is optimal. Less DPS is more expsoure to risk from enemy damage AND less runes/weapons/passives during the farming on Days 1/2. You are actively throwing by trying to play a support class in a game where DPS is infinitely more important.
>>727722585The tower of boss rush is kino though. Once everyone learns good routing this new map will be a lot more fun.
>>727718318Mostly it is the lack of new weapons and Fromsoft being retarded and having to delay integrating this shit with DoN or releasing Everdarks for the new bosses.It is dumb. They're basically making us do the release schedule again, but with the DLC. Wait for one of the Everdarks. Then wait another week for the second. Then wait a while for them to be added properly to DoN along with the shifting earth.If they speed it up considerably and next week we have both everdarks and then a week later it is in DoN then fine. As is, the game's main mode is DoN and it barely changed with the DLC.
>>727718318Because just like Shadows of the HurrDurr, the map fucking sucks in both ways. The actual map doesnt help with all the vertical bullshit, and the actual world has too many dips slopes canyons and fucking death pits.
Scholar is fine in the normal game and his items are goodScholar's items do not scale appropriately into DoN and he basically does nothing in 4/5 and is an active liability to your team. There is no 'supporting' him lowering the enemies damage does basically nothing. Him buffing yours is nice, but he barely does anything himself. He basically is like Executor, but I actually think Executor is better if you're gud with the parry.
>>727735650>didn't even read the bottom of his picture he posted they stack you fucking retard>-20% damage reduction and +60% attack for 5 seconds of works is "bad"you are mentally ill
>>727735650>His ult is solid but that's all he has going for him.Oh, I was just hallucinating the part where he can, with just one boss relic, buff the entire party (4 times a boss) with stam/max hp/phys damage reduction/damage buffs on steroids while also vomiting out bleed/frost/rot procs. Good to know.
>>727735981The DoN version of improved pots is +35% so there's some potential there. I think the main issue is that you're only guaranteed fire pots, so you're risking getting fucked by Gladius or Maris if you pick him into an unknown boss.
>>727723263>how are people falling on the map that has an entire underground section and is full of bottomless pits
>>727736056The only time sharing items with allies is useful is before the start of a boss. Once the boss starts it is generally too chaotic to buff unless they have a lengthy phase transition like Sentient Pest. They should make his ultimate make it so allies share buff items or something regardless of distance.
>>727719341Are Japanese drawings this?
>>727718318>Its the same price as Ashes of Ariandel which was similarly small.Ashes of Ariandel was ass, I just liked that they introduced a javelin and a proper saber. Other than that the healing shield was cool but the DLC sucked ass. I wasn't impressed enough with Elden Ring to buy the DLC but I'm not surprised that people are underwhelmed with the DLC.
>>727736304>too chaotic to buffHow retarded are you?>walk up to player>use item while you're not getting attacked
>>727736304They fixed players being able to iframe buffs, so buffing during stance breaks is actually doable now.But yeah the range on AOE items is depressingly small.
>>727735718>he game is under a time limitExcept the limit doesn't matter much once you've got your stuff/levels and is irrelevant during bosses.
>>727735650>>727735718>>727735427that's why everyone hates ironeye players
>>727736020>they stack you fucking retardWow so if you jack off doing nothing TWICE I can have 40% more stam for 40 seconds? WOWOWOWOWOWOW WTF I LOVE SCHOLAR NOW>+60% attackFor one attack. For one player. It's fucking GARBAGE dude. >>727736056The status procs fall off as you go on bosses with fuckoff big HP pools. He's worst at the hardest part of the game.
>>727736858>Except the limit doesn't matter much once you've got your stuff/levelsBeing fast makes you more able to get more stuff and more levels you fucking 19 IQ cumpuddle.
>>727737331>he needs 3dps to reach level 15Really? Are you this bad but post so confidently?
>>727720072>Only 6 new bosses
>>727737546It's faster and more reliable and level 15 isn't as important as stacking gacha spins for good weapons and passives.
>>727737608Night bosses. There are more new bosses on the map.
>>727737546I mean if DoN 4/5 yes, you need 3 DPS. There is no time to support. Shit has so much HP and one shots you that you just need to deal as much damage as you can while praying for at least one "Damage Negation at full HP" item so you can survive one hit.
>>727737642That means no Ironeye though. He doesn't have the best dps.
>>727737797>DoN 4/5>the gamemode that invalidats most of the gameNo. Only autists play that.
>>727737912It is kind of the only thing to do if you play the game past beating the bosses. It is also clearly the main game mode. However, I do wish I could just queue for comfy DoN 2/3 games instead of sweating it out in 4/5 constantly.
>>727737857He has the best DPS among characters that are good at supporting the team with revives.
>>727737857Ironeye's mark is instant, does more damage, and is also a dodge. If Scholar's skill analyzed enemies like 2-3x as fast it would be playable. It is currently too slow and has too shitty range. Also the CD is too long.
>>727737967>It is also clearly the main game modeIt literally isn't. The main game mode is beating the 8 night bosses.Even Everdarks are not the main game.DoN was a post launch update for people that never play other games.
I never got to finish the game because i suck shit and can't solo Heolstor with Wylder, any guide for brainless fucking retards how to become OP enough to mash my way through remotely reliable enough?
>>727737979>>727738112>revives>dodgeNot dps. Recluse wins.
>>727738224Of course but in reality it's best to have a Wylder or Ironeye or even Executor to back up your Castergodesses
>>727738112>the CD is too long.you can use it twice before the debuff on enemies runs out
>>727738150DoN and Everdark were in the game's files before release, dude. Everyone knew about them. They were content that was cut from the base game to add later as free updates to give the illusion of more development than the game is receiving. Even the DLC was sold as preorder and launched a few months later so it was also probably mostly finished.They made exclusive relics to DoN mode and game only changes like the red enemies. The actual answer is that the game's intended difficulty curve is DoN 3. 4 and 5 are optional super difficulties where 4 is literally twice as hard as 3.
Scholar is a rich get richer type character so in the hands of a shitter with poopy teammates he's worse than duchess in that regard.Undertaker really needs to work with her teammates to get the most uptime from her nun missile and selfbuff.In other words their kits are casual filters.
How do I buff teammates with Scholar's skill? One game it was giving everyone more stamina, the next nothing.
>>727718318They didn’t need to make the Balancer’s that sexy
>>727736243just watch where you're going and look at the map
>>727720072>They also killed the ever goal meta.so fucking based holy shit
>>727718889>no new DS2 bossesWeren’t your points supposed to be negatives?
>>727738339With the relic? You need a full analyze on an enemy before it'll work.
Scholar definitely needs a few QoL buffs that I think would make him much better.I'd definitely make his skill charge on enemies faster. It takes a long time. The parry feels useless because you can't just quickly target them and use it. If I were Fromsoft I'd make it so his right trigger skill will always make a shield and protect him from the attack if timed right, but it only does the big explosion when fully charged.I would also add a revival hitbox to his ultimate. That is to say, when he ultimates it does a small AoE around him that will break one or two bars. Currently he has a major issue with no invincible revive like the rest of the cast.
Evergaol buffs count when doing those towers in the new map.The meta has shifted
>>727738301>cut from the base game to add later as free updates to give the illusion of more development than the game is receivingYou are beyond hopeless.And even in your schizo fantasies that still wouldn't be the main game mode by pure definition.
>>727738339You do the right trigger after the meter fills to stamina buff teammates and the left trigger to attack debuff enemies
>>727718318The 2 new characters which use new weapons came with 0 new weapons in the roster, so their cool special attack animations are tied exclusively to the weapon they start with which is retarded.The "new map" is a nightmare to traverse, and not in a "you just need to learn" kind of way, in a "this shit fucking sucks kind of way".Bosses are indeed kino thoughever
>>727738610>use new weapons came with 0 new weapons in the rosterThis is outright wrong retard
If it added new weapons it would be 10/10, sadly it did not so I give it like a 6/10 or something.
>>727738504I didn't have any relic for him equipped, I was full scanning enemies and then hitting right trigger and then nothing next game.>>727738515I was, not sure what I was doing wrong then.
>>727738610>exclusively to the weapon they start withHammers and Thrusting Swords are not a new weapon type
>Squad's success depends entirely upon our Duchess finding Stars of Ruin or Rancor Call
>>727722585Just temp ban people who leave I fucking hate it so muchJust PUNISH these fuckers
>>727722585>map where people have figured out the optimal routes>brand new map where the optimal path is still being worked outyeah no shit.
>>727732814Red Wolf also used to not have it but they put it in a patch ago because that boss sucks
I swear the game is easier solo or even with just 2 people. Add in 3 and the sheer amount of scaling the last boss gets for HP is just bumfuck retarded. That or I’m just stuck with retards who can’t play properly
>>727734934Mark is absolutely support? It micro staggers on break allowing coordinated teams to interrupt bosses at critical moments with using ults
>>727738505>party is down>Scholar Ults>runs at Mogh to revive us by smashing him>he instadiesGod I hate scholar.
Metaslaves that rely on gear and guides and not skill is why these games with randoms are always shitIf you can't do a no level/no upgrading items/no physick run including the DLC you cannot talk about balance or anything else
>>727735650That level 3 self buff is so shit, you will get maybe a use or two across the whole run
>>727738505>Currently he has a major issue with no invincible revive like the rest of the cast.You mean like Executor and duchess?
>>727739861>party is down>scholar ults>Mogh puts a big puddle of bloodfire under him>scholar dies to the tick damage and bleed in the interval between the invuln ending and regaining control
>>727740068>100% DPS uptime >Free revive on even three bars if you activate it next to them >Restage is so good it could've been an ult if it covered 5-7 seconds instead of 2
>>727735840We still don’t have ED Heolster for some reasonRemember when everyone thought it was a secret DoN boss? Nope.
>>727738301DoN wasn't in the files until the 2nd batch of everdarks
>only 47% approval rating for this garbageKek
>>727738457>he doesn't want Ruin Sentinels as a night 1 boss Shit taste
>>727737912>only autists play the gameDoN is the game now, the relic passives and build crafting are for this mode
Is there a fucking reason the Demon Prince has so much hp? It's not even hard to dodge the braindead attacks but it takes forever to kill it. It's so boring. Literally the worst fight in the entire game so far because it's barely engaging and takes 30 minutes.
>>727738150You are the kind of person who only does one route in a VN and then says they beat the game.
>>727740569They added the respec relics to the regular relics now anon. Just saying. I've even seen one of those "golden attack on charge attacks that connect" in non depths now. They took the funnest bits of DoN and put them into the normal game. I'd be bothered but desu now I just want a Faith Duchess Relic with Night Invader on it in the normie relics.
>>727738192This is not the game for you
>>727740604Nothing in Nightreign has a lot of hp in the regular mode, you just do shit damage and aren't routing well if you feel that way
>>727740068Duchess can go invisible and revive her allies. It is reliable to get up anyone who is 2 bars. Executor has a hitbox on his initial revive animation (that is super) and you can pretty much always get off one or two more attacks at minimum to get up 2 bars. Aside from that it does give him more HP and stamina to try to revive.
>>727740604If it's anything like DS3 then he's super vulnerable to bleeds but pretty resistant to literally everything else.
>>727738192>Playing Solo>In a multiplayer gameLame as hell. I can't play Nightreign solo, I would be bored off my damn mind. Also Heolstor is super easy, just hit him with a holy sword and be level 15 or close when you get there. If you want hard go fight Everdark Libra to know what pain really is.
>>727740530You want those bosses because there is three of them you aren’t thinking about how they would be to fight, which is boring
>>727738192Do 1 poi then 1 evergaol then bumrush the central castleIf you can't get to level 15 with this you have bigger issues than strategy
>>727740132This happened to me with a Royal Revenant poison puddle, what the fuck man
>kill dreglord (barely)>have to kill him again but now he's fucking Ozaru 20 fucking minutes of jobbing and only because our duchess (gamer tag:blackest mage) had ultrainstinct and revived us like 4 times.Sorry Blackest mage and Ranni feet pics.
>>727740897I want them cause the OST is banging actually
>>727740892Use Executor and party Heolster, Im mid at the game and even I can no hit that guy with Exec parry
>>727741061Duchess i-frames are insanely generous because she can double dodge for overlapping frames.
>>727741061>duchessYou didn't beat it, might as well use summons in base elden ring at that point
>>727718318This DLC is even meatier than Ariandel. Way bigger new map and two proper new bosses instead of only one.
>>727740742I was level 13 with an upgraded bleed weapon. I've melted bosses in the base game with less. Even the final boss.
>>727736327Taiwan
>>727740604Because he has a shitload of openings
>>727735158We get it, you had a really bad time playing him not understanding what you were doing from start to finish and your ego refuses to take responsibility.
Nightreign felt like a really fun tech demo. I don't regret buying it but realistically the concept is really underserved and there's not much content.
>>727741890>tech demoanother term that's lost all meaning
>>727740012Self buff has a built in parry that makes it worth using sometimes
>>727738301>DoN and Everdark were in the game's files before release, dude. Everyone knew about them. They were content that was cut from the base game to add later as free updates to give the illusion of more development than the game is receiving. Even the DLC was sold as preorder and launched a few months later so it was also probably mostly finished.Typical FromSoftware >Sanctuary Guardian was supposed to be in Lost Izalith>Lost Izalith was supposed to be a swamp>Artorias was supposed to be in the base game>Bloodborne DLC was base game content later sold as DLC>Dark Souls 3 DLC was base game content later sold as DLC>Painted World of Ariandel was supposed to be a secret area like DS1>Dreg Heap was supposed to be in the base game>Demon Princes were supposed to be in Demon Ruins>The Ringed City was always planned to be DLC>A lot of DS3 cut content is in ER>DS3 content has seen reuse in the DLCs, Sekiro and Elden Ring
>>727741890>>727741983>Nightreign felt like a really fun tech demo. I don't regret buying it but realistically the concept is really underserved and there's not much content.Elden Ring is so popular that you can expect more 'tech demos' and spinoffs, remasters, remakes, etcFunny how they started with King's Field, then Demon's Souls, then Dark Souls, now on the top of the world with Elden Ring
>fighting the valkyries>notice their tummies are exposed>mfw
>>727739891>Play with an executor>Parry everything: the character>Nigger doesn't parry shit and dies constantly>rage quitsi genuinely believe some of these people have mental impairments.
>>727741890They needed true randomization and way more content. Just cram every enemy and weapon they can from previous Souls games in. Also needs a Dex/Fth monk type character
the DLC map being so fixed and even the bosses being fixed killed the DLC for me, missed the entire point
>>727741830No, I just understand Nightreign.
>>727743526>just bloat the loot pool so the game is insanely inconsistentKill yourself.
>>727743927Nah I think he's right, there's not a lot of fun left in the game once you figure it out because it plays so consistently
>>727742915The slow road of iteration.In a perfect world though there's be more sekiro clones.
>>727718889Fromsoftware dlc is always overpriced compared to the base game
>>727744371That's good skill-based design. He want TBoI
>>727744371Not every game needs to last forever.If you get this many hours of fun out of it before you want to move on then that's a fucking hell of a game.
>>727744667Yeah I didn't get close to that much but I'm happy for you.
>>727731670Just try to get a rare grade crossbow and shoot the fucker to death, bait him into doing his fourfold long range telekinetic sword attack and run away far enough to not get hit or dodge and repeat.
There's too much "level design" in the new POIs. Someone didn't get the memo that Nightreign is on a time limit, complete waste of time compared to doing field bosses/boss towers.
>>727747252Except there are lots of enemies in those PoIs that can drop legendary dormant powers despite being much weaker than bosses. Focusing on bosses alone in the new map is a complete trap.
>>727748414>>727747252Also some areas have chests with free dormant powers inside. The entire new map is very similar to Noklateo.
I can't believe you faggots are paying 15 dollars for an expansion of a dlc sequel to another dlc to a game that was made with 30% flipped assets to begin withit's shameful!
>>727748550shut up fag
>>727747252Learn to traverse retard
I quite enjoy UndertakerShe's actually pretty good with Colossal Weapons, Great Axes and Great Hammers...the FTH is just flavor
I tried playing the new map for the last few hours, it is shit.>Need up this cliff? Better run a quarter of the map the other way>Ghost bird will hit you with flames no matter if you are a mile above it>First boss two of the most annoying enemies from Shadow of the Erd tree, also your screen is now dark>New Tricephalos invasion that essentially makes you burn as if you were in the night rain. >Don't even know reward because the circle closed on the last one despite us bee lineing to each one lol>Now here is a harder version of Mohg and you don't have the bubble tear to negate his mandatory bleed
>>727718470It literally has the same motivation as Heolstor lmao>no no nonono NOOOOOOO I'm not a jobber I'M NOT A JOBBER FUCK YOU FUCK EVERYTHING FUCK IT ALL IM GONNA MURDER LITERALLY EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE AAAAAAAAAAAAAA DAMN YOU BAMBISHART YOU PIECE OF SHIT
The main valk doing long combo chains with moves from other similar sized bosses is tripping me up.
>>727748709I seriously hate this stupid fucking "meme".
>>727718318I'm going insane, I can't beat the balancers, pre-DLC I was doing depth 4 runs with randoms and it was fine, post-DLC I'm getting matched up with the biggest fucking retards I'ver ever seen who clearly have done zero research about the new map and new classesNo one is breaking crystals even they are literally running past them, but they ping for us to do the big castles anyway at half HP and they get one shot by the divine beast warriorsNo one is prioritising sleep camps and weapons for the balancers even though is can make the fight so much easierpeople are getting lost ALL THE FUCKING TIME, I've seen so many players just be completely fucking unable to reach the northwest divine tower and they end up running around the area whilst me and one other guy try to beat the tower but end up having to run away from a lack of DPS by the time the day ends because one of our players is fuckjing around in some level 2 poison ruins or some shit because he's butthurt that he doesn;t know whow to use a FUCKING MAPThis DLC clearly brought back all the fucking retards who stopped playing months ago and said "I'll wait for the DLC to play again", but now they've forgotten everything and are rusty as fuck, on top of doing no research on the new contentif I do one more run where some completely braindead cunt is up to his 3rd revival before the balancers even phase change them I'm going to scream
>Nooooo why doesn't the new dlc have a new map>NOOOOOOO why does the new DLC have a map? I have to learn the rotations of a new map now
>>727751061>>Need up this cliff? Better run a quarter of the map the other wayOh, so you're the exact type of faggot I was talking about >>727753038DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH AND LOOK UP HOW TO NAVIGATE THE MAP INSTEAD OF TANKING RUNS YOU FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT
>"They're on record saying that this game has very strict time and money"Then why are you surprised people are shitting on the game if Fromsoft themselves are admitting they don't give a shit about the game
>>727719293>I haven't tried him out in Deep of Night yetIt's pretty rough honestly, but it's doable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF4gm4GmVJ8
I’ll reach D5 with Undertaker, but I really don’t wanna see ED Libra again.
happy this thread is still going
>>727753038This has been my experience too. Once you get a competent team Balancers aren't too bad. You just want to focus on killing the adds and avoiding the pink one altogether. Just kite if you're being targeted and prioritize staying alive.
>>727753038High depths are unironically easier than non-depths because you're guaranteed competent (or cheating) teammates
>>727753038I wouldn't say sleep is essential but it helps immensely, especially with randumbs. You can just put the red bitch to sleep and wipe out the rest easy
>first 2 runs as Scholar are complete abysmal dogshit>start to get a hang of his kit (especially the parry bubble)Fellas I’m starting to think Scholar is fun af
>>727754534Banana bread Fred thinks with his dick, not his head
tell me about the ass nun, why does she lick the wall?Seeing it all over the place but its in moon runes and i dont know anything about the game
>>727754709That's the wall everyone jerks off onto.
>>727754709she eats night essence, found and popped some night essence plant thing and started slurping it up
Is depths even fun if most of my enjoyment came from being able to fist and hyperarmor attacks with Raider
>>727754832it's fun for the first 2 levels then starts requiring miserable try-harding from then on
The new map just makes me wish all the shifting earths were like that
>>727754823But WHY is she just built different?
>Final boss is kind of mid>New map is way too dense for how little time you get to explore it and how obtuse it is to navigate>Undertaker is somehow even more basic than fucking Wylder>Scholar is just whatever as his entire playstyle is in conflict with the core design of the game>Still no DLC weapons and enemies introduced and retrofitted into the old mapYeah, mixed seems alright for it.
Undertaker is great but she's made Revenant completely irrelevant Revenant, Guardian, Executor and Raider all need a complete rework
>>727755774Scholar feels like he was built by someone who wanted to minmax but was bad at it, like on paper he's brilliant for making Bleed/whatever debuffs ramp up on a boss but in practice, that's...not really how you want to be playing the game
>>727756234Executor is perfectly fine, what are you on about.
>>727756234Look if I've learned anything from AC6 it's that not only does nu-FromSoft never support suboptimal builds, it actively ENCOURAGES metafaggotry. Save yourself the heartache and accept Revenant will always be the unofficial hard mode.
>>727755582she just is
>>727756234>>727756265guard counters and deflects should have never been split up into two charactersthe only time guard counters have been good was with the deflect tear in SOTE, and the deflect tear is only good because of how it buffs guard counters
>>727757774Executor is an R1 status spam character who can optionally make guard counters good if RNG gives you passives for it. Deflects are already good in a vaccuum.
