So Bethesda basically looked at No Man's Sky, saw the way it was criticized at launch, and decided "We should make that exact game ourselves and change absolutely none of the things that were criticized about it. This will go over well."
>>727749229>This will go over well.">83 on metacriticWent over better than metroid prime 4
Well unlike no man's sky it also has>3 hubs with a total population of 50>god awful companions>bandits to shoot, 90% of space is bandits everyone knows this>worse terrain generation
>>727749229I though that the problem was they started making this amid the pre-release hype of no mans' sky, and after it came out with the reality of that approach being lame, they were too far in to change course
If after shartfield you don't realize that everyone at Bethesda is a uncreative drone without the ability to imagine a apple or have a internal monologue, I don't know what to tell you.
>>727749229Old man sim has nothing in common with NMS, much like NMS will never have anything in common with the bare minimum of a good game.
Fucking bannerlord has more modsNobody even tried to fix this game with modding it was so corrupt at it's core, corrupt with shittiness
>>727749229Imagine having more funding and employers by at least two orders of magnitude and shitting out far worse product in every aspect. Bethesda is dead.
I think the worst part of this game was when I landed on earth and realized every single planet in this game is devoid of any sort of interesting content.
Starfield was unsalvageable the moment they settled for the key features and told the teams to work in that frameworkIt was a big budget experiment that didnt work out and the game should've been preceded by a smaller prequel first that laid out the framework that allowed the bigger budget sequel to see what works and what didnt
>>727749874The real reason they are delaying Elder Scrolls to no end. They don't want to face the reality the studio peaked and the fanbase has yet to realize and internalize the fall.
>>727749229No Todd thought people were as autistic as he is and would love dry NASApunk as they called it when all people really wanted was Elder Scrolls in Space. With various races, weird aliens and crazy landscapes.
>>727751503It's all part of bethesda getting lazier with each gameIf they won't even give Khajiit proper legs how the fuck are they going to make a slime man or a tentacle guy, they'd have to make more than one-size-fits-all spacesuits
>>727751503>bro Todd is autistic!!!>makes dry, sterile, corporate crap without any real depth or passionLmao sure.>nasapunk is when you snort magic space rocks to become a time traveling marvel space god
>StarbornEmil must be giving great sloppies to keep his job
>play this piece of shit>everyone is the same height>women are always at eye-level standing height>it's fucking weird, I'm 6'1 I've had women at eye level standing height maybe 4 times in my lifeTODD YOU SHORT FUCK MAKE MODULAR SIZES
>>727751653Weird melty considering that's basically what I said.
Starfield is kino
>>727751905Garbage opinion
>>727751769bethesda games can't handle it due to their animations only supporting one heightIf you make your character taller through the console, he will be squished when playing animations in 3rd person. And the reverse if your character is short.They haven't been able to figure out creating dynamic animations for more than a decade now. Something even modders have managed to do for their games already btw
>>727749229This game mogs NMS and every other bethesda game to date. You hate it because you're an NPC who consoomes eceleb slop and regurgitate their opinions.
It was illuminating to play the gameI saw many oft repeating loading screens that ruined the experienceI learned from some bethesda ex lead dev interview that its 100% necessary to have loading screens because they need it to track all the objects as the game would stutter otherwise.Then people say gamebryo is great engine because it tracks all the objects which other game engines cant doPlaying Starfield taught me that people are insane
>>727752210Not taking the bait, try harder.
>>727751503I wanted nasapunk in the gear, so why the fuck are gloves attached to the body of the suit
>>727752210>every other bethesda game to date. Almost had me, nobody could be this stupid even people who think the other bethesda games are mid like me.
>>727752202Anybody got the webm of the kid getting in the power armor
>>727751653Meds
I liked Starfield but the whole time I just kept thinking of how much cooler it could have been. Shattered Space baited me too with the kino intro quest on the derelict ship but that was the high point sadly.
>>727752468me getting a high level gun from the ship at low level was the highpoint of the dlc for meAfter seeing the city area for a while it was so uninteresting I quit and went onto finish the main quest insteadI saw some cave section that seemed bizarre and nonsensical so, thats something.
>>727749229I'm not even mad at Starfield, that was such a huge disappointment that it's beyond anger. We could've had FO4 in space, man ... fuckin jews & their diversity bullshit, and stupid Bethesda bought the obvious scammy shit! Trannies who can't code & niggers in space - that's what the people want, in a game where even the UI hurts to look at!Goddamnit I hate them so fuckin much ...
>okay guys and gals, it's true, we're making a space game>that's why you all have the coming week to come up with a mechanic or system that you want to see in that space game>okay, thank you for your contributions we have a team that evaluates the quality of your ideas and we'll see what makes it into the alpha>over the last 2 years we've been working on your ideas and we've narrowed them down to the best 200>i'm proud to announce today that the hard work of the last 3 years paid off and those 200 ideas are now down to 100 and we are now officially in alpha>i know those 2 years in alpha have been hard on all of us that's why i need you to understand this was an extremely difficult decision for the leadership team but we have to restart the alpha phase and sadly scrap most of the features and mechanics you have been working so hard on for the last 5 years>from the beginning of the project 8 years ago it was a hard fight and we all had to make many hard decisions but i am proud to announce that, now, the shape of the final game is coming together and with it all of BGS are now contributing to the asset production for Starfield which is going to release exactly 10 years after Skyrim>unfortunately the game is simply not ready for the upcoming 11.11.21 release date that is why microsoft has graciously granted us another 2 years to fully realize the potential of Starfield>i have just had a meeting with microsoft and they have sadly decided we're not getting the full 2 years but we have to make sure the game is ready to ship on the first of september>sadly the launch reception wasn't as amazing as we were expecting but many millions of players are enjoying the game on gamepass and that is a massive achievement on its own>the leadership teams biggest failure is that we tried to innovate too much and our players were just not ready for our bold new vision but if we give Starfield the time to mature our players will realize how great the game really is
>>727752691FO4 was a dogshit game >But muh survival
>>727752301>>727752358Not bait, I have more hours in starfield than all other bethesda games put together. It is an extremely comfy game.
>>727749229It has one system that is from no mans sky. The rest of the game is an rpg.
>>727752720And you are a dogshit retard. What is your point?
>>727752691>its bad because space niggersAverage starfield hater
>>727752786So fo4? the second worse bethesda game?Or 76; not even a real game.
>>727752998Could you please repeat that in english, we dont understand hindu "english" on this website
Any news on the dlc? Would love to see how Bethesda tries to redeem saarfield.
>>727749229I liked it
>>727752691>AHHHHHHH JEWS DIVERSITY AHHHHHHHHHHThe reason you didn't like it is your own /pol/ brainrot, faggot.
>>727749229Most overhated game award
>>727753283You shouldn't have
>>727753326By all means, list the reasons you think SF is good and we'll laugh at every single one of them.
>727749229Starfield was the most boring game I played all yearIt felt like a shitty mod for Fallout 4 (which was also a boring game, but at least it was more manageable)Bethesda games are just not for me anymore.. Last game I enjoyed from them was Skyrim and even that one I didn't like that muchIt just sucks that they have no real competition in the genre to push them to innovate more. They just release the same game over and over as a result with barely any difference (and when there are differences it's usually for the worse)
>>727753347not hated enough
>>727753604you are brown award
>Hear about how Neon is the center of degeneracy and crime in the systems>get a quest to go there, excited to see what it's like>see thisReally I would love to know why the game so sanitized more than anything else.
>>727753810You're a bandwagoning retard. They are not strippers, it's a comedy dance troupe. You didn't play tge game and you didn't read the ingame lore abour them. Not every dancer is a stripper. There is a brothel in the same exact city that you can go to.
If you locked me in a room and told me I need to play Starfield or NMS.I'd pick Starfield everytime.NMS is fucking dogshit as a space game and Im tried of pretending otherwise.
>>727753990That was said to be a dangerous club Anon. >THE LORE OF THE DANCERS
>>727753990Where is the brothel?
>>727753990Oh please show me the brothel you are talking about
>>727754034It's dangerous because people are using space-crack in there and the place is run by criminals. Strippers are not dangerous.
>>727749651If you want mostly meaningless empty space to mod for the sake of it, might as well play Daggerfall Unity. Runs on a toaster and no niggers.
>>727754065>>727754079Euphorika. I dont think you can fuck anyone thefe though but its in the dialogue.You can fuck Sarah and Andreja though. But it's just a black screen and then they say a lewd voiceline.
>>727751503>>727752702What the fuck is this shit? I didn't think anyone would sink to shilling TODD of all people. Even Emil has more redeemable qualities. (Namely that he did some decent quest design for Thief and Oblivion)
>>727755076Starfield is based.Cope & seethe.
>>727749651>6.5k is more than 11.8k
>>727755408Starfield haters are retarded and cant count.
>>727749229It's telling that Starfield has left literally zero cultural impact on the internet. Even Fallout 4 had Preston Garvey memes.
Because this game was just fallout 4 but without the handcrafted open worldAnd it also doesn't help that they hit the reset button for modding so anyone who actually gave a fuck stayed on f4 and the coomers on skyrim.
>>727754908in a world with cyberpunk 2077's and the witcher's, that does seem pretty sanitized.
>>727749229Starfield is a masterclass in managing scope. Sadly, managing scope doesn't make a good game.
>>727756271Who cares? Those games are thr goysloppiest of goyslops with zero substance. Gta 5 had better strippers and gameplay anyways, and thats despute gta 5 being a massive disappointment. And the witcher 1 remake is getting all the heterosexusl sex censored.
>>727754817>no niggers.NTA and I played it and I had fun (but even after, like, 100 mods it's still fucking bugged and I couldn't finish the game because I got softlocked). What I want to say that there are plenty of niggers
>>727749309>mfw STARFIELD of all games is better than MP4
>>727749229Starfield did space exploration way better than NMS, what are you smoking?
>>727749229I'm tempted to pick this just to roleplay as a bounty hunter
>>727757468You will roleplay as a desert rock collectorRemember how you needed garbage and tin cans in Fallout 4 to upgrade your guns and ammo? Now multiply it tenfold (I'm not exaggerating, they literally made you collect even more garbage in the form of rocks)Besides, you can't "roleplay" in Bethesda games because they're not RPGs. I mean you can "imagine" that you're roleplaying, but you can do so in other games as well
>discord troons are still making starfield hate threads even 2 years later
>>727758853You wish Starfield was relevant enough for people to actively hate it.
>>727758285You dont have to collect a single rock.
>>727758853I swear every other damn thread here has some shitty discord circlejerk behind it.
>>727758897>he said, while posting in a starfield hate threadDeranged
>>727758897You wish people weren't deranged enough for such petty crusades.
>>727758908I played the gameHow do you upgrade your guns otherwise then?
Bethesda are just wasting their fucking time on these trash ass side projects because they're too afraid TESVI wont live up to the hype.
>>727759162You dont have to upgrade your guns. Upgrading guns is a specific skill tree that takes many skillpoints, skillpoints that you would otherwise spend on skills which increased your damage output by other means. There are good gun drops and the is not hard, you dont really need to upgrade guns unless you want to.An if you do want to skill into gun upgrades and dont want to mine you can just buy the materials, all the materials are purchasable. You can also auto-harvest materials with settlement buildings.
>>727756958The Metroid Prime games were never good though. The latest is more of the same.
WHY ARE THE LOADING SCREENS STATIC IMAGES IT PISSES ME OFF SO BAD. i often fast travelled from planet to planet and sometimes forgot i changed planet!! nice space traveller sim, dude. you had animated objects in skyrim loading screens, in fallout 4 too. what, you couldnt take the player’s ship model and have it on a generic space backdrop flying? too much effort? jeets you hired didnt know how to do that? no i dont wanna install a hundred mods just to fix YOUR fuxking game, fuck off Todd!
>>727749651The only way to fix it would require a large team with lots of time and money. They'd have to craft actually interesting locations and reintroduce the the beauty of exploration and discovery that made previous Bethesda games special. That takes a lot of work.
>>727759658>you had animated objects in skyrim loading screens, in fallout 4 tooNo they didn't
>>727759613The first two are better than the 2D games.
>>727749229The Toddler wanted a space game but they had no old IP designed by actually talented people to rely on, so they relied on their own creativity instead and the result was pretty expected.They knew they had a turd on their hands, hence why they didn't even really market the game. The marketing for Skyrim and Fallout 4 was nuts.
>>727749651genuinely it would be easier to make starfield in fallout4 than to make a functional starfield in starfield
>>727759897Are you retarded? Or do you mean that they didn't play a dedicated "animation"? They were fully 3d rendered models in a 3d scene which you could turn around so it doesn't matter if it plays an animation or not because it's already there and it can be animated nonetheless
>>727758853>only troons hate the openly transsexual games like Starfield or Dragon Ageoooooookay
>>727761510>Or do you mean that they didn't play a dedicated "animation"?Yes because that's what you implied. They're static objects.
>make a space game>theres no space travel and you can only engage in dogfights in planets orbits>theres no spaceship crafting, you just get 1 ship that you can re-arrange and change class>theres no reason to have multiple ships or programmable supply routes>theres no reason to make a base at all on any planet>theres no reason to upgrade your spaceship fuel reserves, it only determines the amount of loading screens you encounter to your destination>theres no reason to build a crew>theres no reason to storm any enemy settlements, infact theres less than 10 settlements all copy pasted often with innacuracies like food/cigarettes in the vacuum of space>theres no oxygen management that dictates the length of your surface trips>theres no vehicles you can take outside of your main space ship to explore surfaces, you just have to sprint and jetpack mindlessly in a direction for 10 minutes to find nothing>the story says that each artifact is in a random location in each universe and the entire reason the enemy starborn are in your universe is because finding the others is too much of a hassle. when you ascend to starborn and start universe hopping yourself, the same 4 artifacts are in the same 4 locations every single time in every universe>theres no reason to even multi-ascend contrary to what the antagonists say, you just get slightly different looking armour and ship design>you cannot modify starborn ships>most if not all enemy ships cannot be boarded, stolen and sold>theres no reason to do any quest outside of the main quest>theres no reason to get any perk apart from ship classifications which in turn doesnt affect anything except storage size and gating off areasstarfield is NOT a space game
>>727762915>theres no space travel and you can only engage in dogfights in planets orbitsthat's lie. didn't read the rest
>>727763514hoh boy time to engage in some space travel in my space game>open menu>selection location>loading screen>get to target planet/station>loading screen>do objective (3 dialogue 'options') and go back to ship>loading screenhoh boy time to engage in some space travel in my space game>repeat with the ocassional spawn of some dogshit space fights that even halo reach outperformed in 2012hang yourself tonight thanks
>>727763694lying faggit
>>727764080Your the faggot lying I have played the game and traveling through space is just loading screens till you get to the planet maybe a short unfun dogfight then landing on the shit planet. To find some npc to talk to or space bandits to kill for 10 min get thing go back to first planet witch will take you two to four loading screens.
>>727752202Elder Scrolls had races be different height.
>>727749229Except NMS was a broken piece of shit at launch with a lot of promised features missing. Starfield till this day is the most polished BGS game to date, and everything they promised is in the game for better and worse. Now, you may not agree with the way they handled exploration, but thats an entirely different subject. Moreover, the issue that plague Starfields exploration also do NMS, except there are no loading screens and its all very seamless, which is nice, but i dare you cocksuckers to go explore on foot and tell me if you find anything worthwhile. You’ll find the same 5 - 10 POI, copy pasted everywhere, at nauseam.
>>727749229no it was pretty different since no mans sky was a survival crafter about collecting rocksalso you could always fly from planet to space manualy in nms
>>727749651>1 of those is not like the othersKekking at Stardew Valley being in that list
>>727764080bethesda writing staff everyone this is the best they can muster
>>727764786>Starfield till this day is the most polished BGS game to date, and everything they promised is in the game for better and worse.lil cesars tastes so good when u aint got a bitch in yo ear tellin u its nasty
