0.2 seconds after he kills the Joker the Justice League would toss Bruce in a prison

Normies today literally think this though

>>727753321
>0.2 seconds after he kills the Joker the Justice League would toss Bruce in a prison
... and? What hero would not sacrifice their freedom to save thousands of people?

>>727753156
He should fucked Joker in the ass though like in that movie.

>>727753156
it's even worse when
>be protag
>cut clean through tens of thousands of adversaries, leave behind a red ocean of gore
>finally arrive at the big bad who very much deserves this treatment
>without even wounding him, go: ''no.... if we kill him, i would be no different''
>villain still alive. terrible things only escalate
It's criminal glorification for cucks

>>727753598
>FEEL THE SUFFERING OF GOTHAM ENTER YOU
>THIS SEMEN BURNS WITH THE LIVES YOU STOLE

>>727753648
>Joker goes to Metropolis
>Supes easily beats his ass
>drops by Bats and told him if he let his boyfriend back to Metropolis, he'll kill Joker
>Bats back to brood

I really find Injustice fucking retarded. That shit was so badly written.

>>727753648
The "good" ending for Honest Hearts in a nutshell

>>727753321
Technically in Arkham City and Batman Beyond it could be assumed Batman had killed Joker by all but those there to know otherwise for certain, and no one did anything. Why would they, Joker's not Luthor he's an undocumented domestic terrorist.

Also as a vigilante who hospitalizes criminals frequently Batman's already far from free of incarceration for his activities, but I don't personally believe he needs to start killing just because of that.

>>727753156
batman is heroic and interesting because of his moral values that he tries to maintain.

>>727753156
>batman doesnt kill Joker because he thinks if he crosses that line he wouldnt ever STOP killing criminals, or that (in at least one iteration) he thinks if he kills him his evil will just infect someone else and they'll be even worse, or whatever fucking stupid reason
Okay sure fucking whatever its a key part of the chatacter at this point you have to justify it somehow BUT
>No other criminals kill Joker, either because he's too fucking dangerous to keep around or just for the bragging rights
>no GCPD officer, a police department KNOWN for its corruption, pulls an Epstein or pushes him down a flight of stairs while he's cuffed or even just puts a gun to his head and pulls the trigger because he's an animal and needs to be put down
>no survivors or victim's family members Jeffrey Doucet him
>no one at arkham, patient or staff, kill him
>no other heroes that lack that killing restriction, and they do exist, go "fuck you bruce, arrest me if you want but I didnyou a fucking favor and you know it"
He is for the most part just a regular-ass dude with some chemical burns and a really fucked up brain, you could mortally wound him with a really good solid swing of a folding chair if you tried hard enough, and probably a third of the fucking city has good reason to, and NO ONE ELSE DOES IT. THAT is what beggars belief for me.

This is why making capeshit for "adults" is fucking stupid.

Batman not killing Joker is okay.
Batman spending untold ammoumts of time to protect him from others killing him is retarded.
Theres a comic where some blue collar guy who lost his kid to jokers bullshit is about to shoot Joker from a rooftop and Batman proceeds to beat him into the hospital.
Like fuck you Batman you couldnt have stoped a rape or another murder with that time?

>>727753321
I doubt Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter and half the Green Lanterns would care

No, see he should just capture Joker and he should remain imprisoned. He should also receive psychiatric help, because he is explicitly mentally ill. The problem is that Arkham is about as secure as a public park and anyone who interacts with Joker somehow magically becomes their pawn for no reason as a conceit of the story.

But if we assume that nothing could *possibly* be done to keep a single non-powered person detained somehow, then Batman specifically shouldn't kill because when he does he goes murder-crazy himself as is explicit in a bunch of stories including Under the Red Hood and all the Dark Multiverse stories. So someone else should do it instead. But also they shouldn't because then the world would be another Dark Multiverse story because of setting cohesion.

So either accept that comicbook stories are stupid and require your suspension of disbelief or be a dumb bitch.

>Kill
You mean rape?

>It's another manchild having a meltdown over characters made for children thread
fuck off back to >>>/co/

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>>727753321
Yet everyone thinks it is OK when Alfred kills criminals.

>>727758303
based what comic is this from?

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>>727753156
The reason Joker isn’t killed is he makes too much money. That’s it.
You’ll notice that in closed off continuity’s like the DCAU, Arkham, Joker, Tim burton Batman, injustice etc, the joker is always killed off simply because having him around long term makes no sense

>>727758336
batman

Alfred>batman

>>727753156
Batman not killing criminals is just a by-effect of villains getting popular and needing to reoccurring.
Back in the day Batman used to kill criminals but it was toned down both because the popularity of some villains surprised the authors and publisher alike (Joker was originally supposed to be just killed off for example), and later even more because of the Comics Code self-regulation in the 1950s.

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>>727758445
I'm going to fucking beat off on your pillow and then your dumbass is going to go wash off what got on you and then you're going to immediately hop back into bed and have to wash again because you're a fucking dumbass

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>>727758557
dumb questions get dumb answers

>>727758561
Not canon.

>>727758336
Booster Comics #12 from 2007.

>>727758303
https://youtu.be/snUotQz6gIg

>>727758594
ah the smug redditor approach

Is there nobody in the DC universe thar can fix crazy people?

>>727758683
projection isn't a good look

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>>727758685
if you go by the harley quinn show, the answer is "milf latina pussy"

>>727758685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ekMrjKrB_Y

>>727753321
Batman breaks loads of laws all the time. Besides beating the shit out of poor people, he's also re-purposing government-funded research for personal purposes, laundering money to pay for all his bat stuff, every motor vehicle law from insurance to speeding to driving without a license plate. He's often in possession of unlawful narcotics, he's obstructing police procedure, hiding evidence, conducting unlicensed medical experiments. Witness intimidation, bribery, using and presenting a fake ID. Every single law regarding the handing of high-explosives. He definitely didn't get construction permits for the batcave either.
So why is killing one guy what puts his crime quota over the edge? Besides which, Batman isn't just not killing the Joker. He's going out of his way to ensure nobody else busts a cap in Jokers ass either.

>>727758745
This was actually one of the few good bits of that show, jonkler being a family man was funny

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>>727753156
To live is to suffer. Capital punishment is not to be condemned to death but to life.

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>>727753156
Jews can only write 2 things: porn and capeshit, both to fuel their manic inbred psychopathologies. For porn there's not much to explain, but for capeshit you need to notice that the writers see themselves as being both the superhero and the supervillain. They hold up this fake system of opposition, where justice is unwilling to destroy crime for real, and civilians just keep getting exploited. It is a celebration of an infiltrated society that keeps exploiting the goy, but whose institutions cannot fix it. Contemporary americans are so demoralized and cowardly because they internalized the lesson, and trully cannot figure out that killing your enemy solves everything.

>>727753156
I mean it makes sense if you consider that Bruce Wayne is also a bit of a loon
Better question is why justice system hasn't strapped Joker to an electric chair yet

>>727758303
Alfred literally has a license to kill.

The real question is why the fuck would anyone voluntarily live in Gotham City or Metropolis (or Marvel's New York).

>>727753156
in the game Batman is a friend of the police and freely walks around the police station. If he kills people the police will have to arrest him, they are only working with him because he doesnt kill people, if he kills people that would make him like judge dredd and thus superior as a force than the police. So more than philosophical BS i think it mostly comes down to that.

Don't the US have the Death Penalty anyway?

>>727759502
Dude, you gotta live in the city. The hustle and bustle! Get this, they got these bars that are also arcades!

>>727758303
Self defense, right?

>>727759502
Probably lots of jobs with good to decent pay
Metropolis isn't that bad a place to live in beyond some monster showing up to tussle with Superman and in Gotham rent is probably cheap as dirt

>>727759694
He's british secret service, dude. As long as he can claim that NOT killing a dude would lead to a terrorist attack killing hundreds, he can get away with damn near anything if the proper paperwork is filed afterwards.

>>727759595
Gotham has really strange definition of criminal insanity where Joker and other villains are somehow not considered responsible for their actions due to reason of insanity, so they are just locked up in Arkham to be "cured" until they escape again. While in real life the premeditation, intent, knowledge of right and wrong, and awareness of consequences they display would automatically disqualify most of Batman villains (including the Joker) from any insanity pleas.

>>727758561
>>727758597
Injustice is canon in Injustice. Because it's an alternate universe. But that part specifically was also a dream.

>>727759595
Gotham is apparently in New Jersey or sometimes New York. Which don't use the death penalty. But then, Metropolis has also been in New Jersey and also has at times had the death penalty, for instance for Lex Luthor. So basically it's up to writer's convenience.

>>727759892
I can buy Penguin using his mobster ties to get a cushy cell for a while and Harvey getting a genuine insanity plea, but shit like Joker and Poison Ivy not getting executed is really questionable, well Joker when he was just a clown themed mobster made sense, Joker the uber-terrorist doesn't
Hell after listening to the kindergarten sewing in Arkham Knight I am surprised none of his goons tried to just shoot him in the back or something since they don't seem all that different from Penguins or Harvey's boy

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But what if you can.

>>727758597
The events of injustice arent canon, batman intentionally and willingly killing the joker isnt canon, but the idea that 'if batman killed someone he would immediately stop what he is doing and ask the nearest citizen to call the police and tell them to arrest him and go through the court system, demand a guilty sentence and serve his time in jail' is 100% batman.

>>727753156
He doesn't need to do what you tell him

>>727759872
Maybe, but he wouldn't even need that for shooting a villain inside the manor or batcave, right?

>>727753156
The DC Comics universe is the best argument for capital punishment that I've ever seen.

>>727758303
Alfred is a former British Special Forces operative, like how Gordon was a former marine. Alot of Batmans closest friends and allies have a military background and have actually killed as a profession. Alfred is a good man but he has zero moral qualms about killing in self-defense of himself, Bruce, the Batfamily or other innocents. It would honestly be pretty ironic for Joker to die at his hands and Alfred just cleans up and disposes of his body with no ceremony or emotion to it.

>>727753156
Zoomers will never understand that you just can't murder everyone you don't like. You have to have principles and stick by them.

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>>727760510
Alfred would love to.

>>727760573
Principles are woke tho, based thing is to be an unprincipled backstabber who has no respect for anyone

>>727760671
the STRONGEST

>>727760573
Jokers not a normal person though

>>727758561
>joker was not a man
>not after the surgery, at least

>>727758561
>CLARK CLARK CLARK DID YOU GET THAT HIS NAME IS CLARK!
Fucking retarded writers. This was my main problem with Arkham Knight as well just constantly using their names in front of people

>>727759160
There's a Lot to explain about porn. What happened to the good smut?!

>>727761262
Arkham Knight did not have Paul Dini in the writing team anymore and it really shows that he carried the writing of Asylum and City.

>>727753321
Wrong.
He would turn himself in and explain he has committed murder then demand a fair trial where perfectly makes a case against himself with his autistic super brain.

>>727761469
I went back and played City and it was worse.

>>727761469
That's a common thing people post on YT comments, yeah, but I don't think it holds true.

>>727753156
If you mass murder a mass murderer the amount of mass murderers in the world stays the same.

>>727760087
That faggot who laughs should have stayed in his containment board. Fuck batwank, maybe netflix will sodomize that faggot hard.

Shit like Batman's no kill rule is like the moral degradation of society captured in print form. There is no honor or justice in letting the wicked live, and only the truly insane can't tell the difference between sending a mass murder to the electric chair, and thinking that means we'll start hanging people who jaywalk ala shit like Injustice because ooh slippery slope.

Society improved because we used to kill horse thieves and rapists. Now it's degrading, especially in Europe, because people fall into a crippling moral dilemma over sending the most violent man alive back to his homeland because he's convicted of human trafficking and mass murder and they want to execute him.
>NOOOOOOO HIS HUMAN RIGHTS

>>727760687
That's certainly no better than the joker.
>>727761047
Killing him is just doing what he wants you to do so he can corrupt you and have the last laugh.

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People memeing on Batman for not killing feels like an indication how society has deteriorated. People dont have an issue with some guy playing judge, jury and executioner anymore because... I dunno, they dont believe in the justice system I guess? Something else?
Maybe I'm reading too much into it and it's not that deep but there are enough retards out there that think of themselves as Batman when road rage makes them pull out a gun on randos that I dont feel it is

>>727762463
>I dunno, they dont believe in the justice system I guess?
It's very difficult to believe in the concept of the justice system when my nation is now an infamous clown globally.

>You posted a mean hurty word on Facebook, 3 years in jail
>You beat and raped a woman to within an inch of her life, 12 months community service

>>727758303
I hope nobody writes Batman to have a problem with normal people defending themselves with guns

>>727762463
The problem is there are iterations/stories of Batman saving Joker's ass from getting canned after he pulled off serious crimes.

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No kill goose that lays golden eggs.
>B-b-but!
NO KILL GOOSE!
NO KILL!
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

>>727762463
>People dont have an issue with some guy playing judge, jury and executioner anymore
The problem doesn't start at executioner, so in the hypothetical we're in, it's bad (not from a story-telling perspective) practically.

>>727753392
No they don't. Moralfaggotry is peak normie.

>>727753156
is he kills him, he becomes him. that's the law of gotham

>>727763102
The reason batman would attack him is for behaving like a nog. Not for his words.

>>727762463
Nigga, people complained about it since forever. Nothing has changed.

>if you kill him, he wins
Why doesn't this apply to all forms of violence?
>if you beat him up, he wins
Shouldn't Batman be a pacifist? Going on hunger strikes to save the city, perhaps?

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>>727753156
This ideology is responsible for the death of western civilization.

A fictional billionaire in a bat costume says you can't kill criminals because his ghost mom wouldn't like it and now we let niggers with 1000 arrests off for stabbing people in the middle of the day to fight racism.

Batman is usually cool but this aspect of him sucks.

>>727760671
Alfred is too based for the cringe world he exists in

>>727762463
Submitting yourself to the authority of someone else is a sign of personality damage, because deep inside you feel inferior to it and incapable to fully exercise those roles. Most common in empires, where the individual is worth nothing, while his authorities would have no such doubts.

People like that are on their way to become a caste of worthless slaves, like in India.

>>727763331
Some leftoid's power/revenge fantasy isn't canon

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>>727758561
Why would Super Man dehumanize a human when Super Man is not even a human?

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>>727762219
Batkek is so awful he loops back around to being kino
>Canonically trapped in Fortnite

>>727763828
What's so bad about him?

>>727764038
He's the "Batman with infinite prep time" meme ramped up to 11 with comical edge on top. It's like witnessing the kid on the playground who has counters your imaginary gun with super armor that deflects all rounds, including nukes.

>>727764242
And he pretty much exists to justify Batman not killing the Joker.

>>727762463
>killing a known and repeated mass murderer to prevent him from escaping prison (which he always does) and mass murdering again is the same as greasing some random guy on the road because you were mildly angry at him
Your brain is the only thing that's deteriorated.

>>727758597
>implying canon means anything at all in these types of comics
Are you retarded?

>>727763828
>gets unceremoniously beheaded by aragorn

>>727765647
That's because Aragorn is gigabased.

>>727753156
>2036
>Batman and Joker enter public domain
>Everyone recognizes Batman raping Joker as canon and DC/WB can't do anything about it
>>727763102
>We're not going to have another cocaine powered supervillain on my watch

>>727753321
No they wouldn't lol. The only guy who might be asshurt is Superman but he is a pussy. Literally every other member of the Justice league would be high fiving Bruce and I am pretty sure Wonder Woman would offer him a blowjob under the table for it.
It is Batman who would be a real bitch about it and cry because he doesn't wanna kill the Joker cause he is gay for him or something.

This whole "I can't kill him or I'd be like him" shit made more sense when the Joker was throwing pies in the 60s. Now that the Joker is a mass murdering domestic terrorist with a body count in the 5-6 digits killing him is completely morally and ethically correct and Batman's insistence that he not be killed is actually pretty evil and is leading to more deaths. If Batman saves the Joker's life and then the Joker robs a bank, whatever. If Batman saves the Joker's life and then Joker proceeds to kill 10k people it really is Batman's fault.

>>727753156
they are literally made for eachother

>>727766735
Who tops?

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>>727753156
I will never get capeshit, why doesnt batman just permanently cripple Joker via an """Accident"""?

daredevil had a way better take on the no killing rule

>>727766768
easily batman. he is the hyper competent obsessive control freak who plans everything ahead, joker would probably still try to keep finding new ways to fuck with him (literally) and make him lose control tho.

>>727754026
Batman beyonds joker could have died of natural causes aswell. joker had a copy cat group called the jokerz, ment to carry out his vision

>>727766914
because they cant exist without eachother, so its more about a game of one upping eachother. people just make the mistake of thinking batman is some sane mary sue or something.

>>727762463
It's been 100 continuous years. The joker has a kill count in the tens of thousands. The Gotham justice system just adores cyclical super-crime. Also, the concept of do-nothing justice systems are becoming more and more topical as the 72-arrest-of-the-week schizo lights another person on fire.

>>727753554
>What hero would not sacrifice their freedom to save thousands of people?
Batman

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Why doesn't Batman just fuck the joker

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>>727763646
By far the best series of panels of that comic

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>>727753156
>Yes yes I know you just cut your way through literally thousands of henchmen
>yes I know many of them were just doing a security job not even knowing they're involved in bad crime
>Yes I know they have families to feed and didn't choose to be security guards but their financial situation led them to this
>Yes indeed I know you just smashed their heads in in a thousand different ways. making the likelihood of fatalities statistically all but certain
>BUT...if you kill the real villain behind the scenes, the guy responsible for everything, then you are just the same as him

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>If you kill a killer, the number of killers in the world remains the same

>>727772996
that's why you have to kill at least 2 killers

>>727763741
Presumably because the biological reality is less important to him than the spiritual nature of personhood.

>>727772996
>kills himself

>>727758303
Alfred is British.
It's different.

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>>727758561
>0.2 seconds after he kills the Joker the Justice League would toss Bruce in a prison
Much of the Justice League like Superman and Wonder Women have killed multiple people with no issue.

Superman even threatened to kill Joker himself if he showed back up in Metropolis to do his Joker bullshit.

>>727753648
imagine being druckmann

>>727766914
That's what Shadow Hawk did. At least at first, and before the entire series got stupid.

>>727758561
Those cops would have an astronomically higher chance of accidentally killing Bruce than killing Superman.

>>727753156
How many times is thread going to be made?
>>>/co/

Batman won't kill the Joker because he gets off on fighting mentally ill people, he doesn't care about the people of Gotham

>>727759160
holy BASED take

>>727753156
>Be incredibly effective in "citizen's arrest" of the most dangerous psychopaths and mass murderers.
>Judges, in their incompetence, do not sentence these villains to death, but to life in prison, from which most of them have already escaped at least once.
>For some reason, it's Batman's fault.
Batman wants to stay within the bounds of the law. It's not his fault that Gotham's courts and politicians are full of Democrats.

>>727753321
He's a billionaire and friends with the police, he'd spend some time there then get bailed out.