Einstein type shi
>>727754217Lies from king liar.
Rebooting the Xbox is the only way to free up memory?
>>727754217>when a modder makes a game
>>727754394>the only way to free up memory?Not what he said. Just that rebooting was what they went with.
that's pretty cool desu
>>727754394no, you can write code to do it. Todd is just telling you he's a bad dev who doesnt know how to do it so uses the retard method
>>727754217God howard strikes again..
>>727754217ayo this nigga blastin us wit psychic waves n shih
>>727754449Show me the game you coded lol
>>727754217this method takes 30 seconds, a real coder could do it under a second, what a fucking hack
By objective definition, Todd is a conman right?
>>727754543Nope. FO76 really did have sixteen times the detail.
>>727754504I dont want your third world hands touching any of my projects
These niggas playin Xbox!
some annoying /g/ fag autist: oi why didn't they just write their own OS in C and boot into that!! I could do that in two seconds!!
>>727754217heh nice, Morrowind loading times on xbox were HUEG
>>727754394Morrowind is just so big that yes, it’s the only way.
>>727754217its funny how he's actually proud of letting you know he's a retard
>>727754789he was in a chess clubwhat did you accomplish at his age?
>>727754543When you've been in the game as long as he has, sometimes your hands get a little... dirty.
WHAT IS THIS DIDDY BLUD DOIN ON THE CALCULATOR IS BLUD EINSTEIN??????
>>727754449Took microsoft until windows 10 until they were able to fix this.Windows 7, beloved by many retards, have the same exact issue. It uses up more and more rame over time and the only way to fix it is to do a full reboot.
>>727755019This made me laugh
>>727754394>Rebooting the Xbox is the only way to free up memory?It is when the cause is a memory leak and you have nfi how to fix it because you're Bethesda.
>>727755118https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL8AGNE3ajA
>>727755187This sounds like the most plausible reasoning. I don't see why you would go with a reboot option unless you're having a memory leak. Else you'd simply free up memory like a good programmer.Todd's bragging about their band-aid to incompetence.
>>727754217Todd Howard is such a fucking enigma. It's literally impossible to tell whether or not he is a genius or an actual retard but also if he even likes video games.Does he have autism? He did claim to be friends with Musk
>>727755381He's a furry at the very least
The more things change, the more they stay the same
>>727755381>He did claim to be friends with Musk>Todd Howard is getting canceledRip
Shouldn't you be able to free up memory without rebooting the system? Isn't this Todd just admitting the game has a memory leak issue?
>>727755418its 4d chess to get furfag moneywhy do you think we still havent been to elsewyr or the black marsh?
>>727755381He's not a programmer. He didn't single handedly wrote the game from scratch, recorded every single voice line and modeled every toe, unlike Kojima
>>727755449Gotta know how to spin it. Memory leak? No, no. It's a creative free memory reallocation solution.
>>727755381god howard is beyond mortal understanding
maybe xbox itself has issues with memory and it's easier to reboot it? you guys are closeminded and don't respect the todd god enough
Deus Ex Invisible War did this too.
Is that hardcore enough for you, dreamboy?
so, what he is saying is, that the game soft reboots to flush the memory cache free, and they just reload the game under a loading screen. Which results in long loading times.
>>727756019They reboot the entire console to completely free up RAM, the entire OS and game gets reloaded from scratch
It doesn't actually reboot the OS right? Doesn't it just write whatever is loaded on RAM into a temporary file on the drive and then launch into a new executable? Some devfag must be able to explain it better than him
>>727755296But omg he can reboot the xbox and I won't know! That's amazing
>>727756126>They reboot the entire console to completely free up RAM, the entire OS and game gets reloaded from scratchHaving not owned an Xbox console in a very long time... how long does it take for the OS to completely reboot? Does the OS have a silent boot mode that devs can enact?
>>727755075That would be called a memory leak my boy.
For the original 3DS models, some later games load up a lightweight version of the operating system, and so the console restarts when you close the game.
>>727754701You have no games! And an iq of 50
>>727756763Yes, same as what todd is talking about.
>>727756765The DS reboots everytime you go into a different system menu/game. The wii does the same thing
>>727756849I'm pretty sure the DS Phat/Lite turned itself off if you want to back out from the system settings, Pictochat, or what have you. Was annoying as shit. Never used a DSi.
>>727755438Obviously fixing the memory leaks is better, but they can be hard to track down and this is a good backup that will handle everything.
>>727755751So did Thief 3. It wasn't uncommon on the Xbox.
>>727756736>how long does it take for the OS to completely reboot?I remember Morrowind on the OG Xbox having excruciating load times. Like, multiple minutes if you're loading the exterior world.
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>>727754292except it's not, plenty of ogx games did this. DX:IW does it on the fucking pc port as well
I'm not a developer, but this always sounded like bullshit to me. You're obviously not rebooting the console if the screen is still outputting visuals, so you're at the very least talking about something a little different. And if your goal was to wipe memory, I don't understand why you couldn't just wipe it with code instead of "rebooting."
>>727754217Prove he said that. Post the video interview where he said it.>"I shove Cats up my ass. They're still there."~OP
>>727754217interesting hack
>>727758201https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI2IPeocbAAWhy do you make a fool of yourself like this?
>>727757368it restarts your pc?
>>727754217and the downside of this little trick is that if you don't bother to make a good PC version and just port the console code, the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME WINDOW CLOSES AND RE-OPENS ON EVERY LOADING SCREENI learned this the hard way trying to play Thief Deadly Shadows and Deus Ex Invisible War, which both used this annoying fucking console pleb trick and didn't bother removing it from the PC ports
>>727757962>I'm not a developer, but this always sounded like bullshit to meIt's not, see >>727758706Other games used this trick too, the entire application closes and opens again
>>727758772That's not rebooting
>>727754217Todd bros...
>>727757962>You're obviously not rebooting the console if the screen is still outputting visualsYou can absolutely reset the CPU while having the GPU push the same frame. Those chips were separate on the OG xbox (Intel CPU and nVidia GPU).
>>727758706DXIW still stands as one of the worst PC ports ever made
>>727757368Nobodies reading your lies todd, fuck off.
>>727759748the cpu is what actually shows the frame and controls it anonthe gpu just creates aspects of it it based on parameters the cpu passes to it and its assembled by the cpu
>>727760376The framebuffer is entirely on the GPU anon, the fuck are you on about
>>727759748>>727760376>know so much about the xbox architecture>can't team up to make an xbox emulatorUseless. Abso fucking lutely useless.
>>727760454anon the xbox uses directx, that is why its called the xbox.I don't think you know the first thing about how rendering is handled and frames are assembled in directx.
>>727760635Except we're not talking about how frames are assembled, we're talking about how frames are pushed by the hardware.The whole point is that they push a static image to a framebuffer while the CPU resets masking the reboot.
>>727760825yes refer back to >>727760376
>>727760941Ok so you're arguing against something that nobody even said. Got it.
>>727760986no you just don't understand how monitors work, how frames a displayed, or how rendering is done (let alone how they are assembled, where they are stored, and how they are pushed)so you just fundamentally do not understand.the cpu is what is pushing the frames to the display device.
>>727761043That's just wrong, the framebuffer memory and the display controller are on the GPU.
>>727761527>>727761043Well a slight correction, the OG xbox did have unified memory so the CPU does have direct access to it (I never said it didn't), but the DC is still on the GPU so you can reset the CPU while keeping the image
>>727761527displays do not hold your frame you retardthe cpu is what communicates with the display device to send the frame, if a frame is not send it will go back to its default state (a black screen).where the frame is stored is irrelevant because its the cpu that sends the frame you absolute fucking retard. the gpu does not communicate with external devices or at all interface with anything except the cpu which is it being told what to do and then returning results.you simply do not understand how computers work.
I'm scared.
>>727761676Ok idk if it's just you being ESL or what but you're just making up arguments in your head that I've never made or even implied lmao.
>>727761837>"you can reboot the cpu while the gpu pushes the same frame">the gpu is not what sends the frame its the cpu>"uhhh what are you talking about I didn't say that"yeah, right, definitely not your argument.the cpu is what sends the frame.You are trying to argue about where frames are stored now, the person making up shit in their head is you and because you do this so much you are projecting it on me.stay on topic retard.
>>727754394Learn to read retard lmao
did you see this niggas hair line recently keke NORWOOD RAPED
>>727761837I've seen so many people like you lately who simply cannot follow an argument and start sperging about "made up arguments." Stop the buffoonery, bro.
>>727754217So the game is coded like shit and leaks memory left and right, so you have to essentially purge the whole RAM? That's retarded. Use a programming language with garbage collection at that point. Not only will you program the game faster thanks to having higher-level abstractions, it will run better, since you piss away the potential performance benefits of using a lower-level language anyway.
>>727755438Discord is a fucking electron app. Any retard who installs this cancer on his computer deserves this shit.
>>727762646anon they were programming video games in the late 90'sjava was still new, C# was not invented, and they both run like shit compared to C and C++ which they were and are still using
>>727754217Xbox Morrowind was still full of sovl, it was the best version
>>727763209 Absolutely. It's like willingly drinking motor oil because it comes with a cute frog icon. Every time someone says “just hop in VC” I can hear my CPU sobbing. It's not even about performance anymore, it's a matter of pride.
>>727754217>Here's a trick a bunch of developers at the time used >Todds team uses it JAGUGJFJFFJFJFH WHY IS KING LIAR LYING AHHHHHHHHHH STRANGER DANGER TODDS DIDNIT AGAIN NOOOOOOO
I feel like many more games do this, on ps2, and even pc.
>>727764979>and even pc.No, that's not a thing on PC. No single game has root access to reboot your PC without your permission. On a console, it might be part of the design document to soft reboot the machine to free up RAM.
>>727757368Oh yeah, lmao, Dude Sex IW just completely every time you change maps.
>>727754217>Heres all this memory that you can use>Oh i seem to have run out of memory because of leaks!! I better reboot the entire operating system instead of just clearing the memory i was given!!Am i missing something? Isnt this shit supposed to be extremely easy to implement on a console since you should trivially have an understanding of the specs of the machine you are working with?What i mean is basically>This machine has 8gb of available memory>Oh but this game only needs 1gb, so i will just use that much and assign it dynamically! Im a good programmer i clean up after myself!!!
