I always heard it was bad but I had no idea it was this bad. Druckmann is a fucking retard
Did he not accomplish exactly what he set out to do, which was to annoy and disgust fans of the first game?
>>727776481it sucks cause the gameplay is verye good
Filtered. Lol.
>>727778207First part of the game was decent despite all the cutscenes but when it becomes a walking simulator + characters noone cares about it goes downhill
>>727776481this game truly exposed and filtered /v/ midwits
>>727776481What do you mean? It's my favourite release in 2025
A fat Mexican guy I know who considers Mother 3 and Majora's Mask to be masterpieces despite not having beaten either game also thinks this game and the TV show are masterpieces.
>>727776481>not even the normies like itWhat was he thinking?
>>727778842that's not true lol
>>727778207Imagine having a daughter this cute...
OP is gay. No Return mode is one of the best game of this gen.
>>727777784That doesn’t change the fact that what op said was right
>>727779773That’s not why anybody criticizes this pile of shit of a game though
>>727778842My guess is that he had too much in his head that was impossible to portray in a game so the story just turns into all over the place nonsense. This is without even mentioning all the tranny shit and ugly women
>>727779993Awful. The ending of the game is literally Ellie not being able to play guitar anymore because of her two missing fingers. And then that’s it. You are strumming the guitar and it’s making these awful noises and then it goes to the credits. I couldn’t believe it
>>727780287Lmfao that can't be real, I have to finish it one day
>>727780517I’m dead serious. The people that hated on this game were right about it
Same thing as ASoIaF and GRRM. Subverting expectations for the sake of it, undercutting your own story and characters in the process and kill your fanbase's goodwill.
>>727780287In TLOU Part I when Sam asks her what is her biggest fear she answer "i'm afraid of being alone".
>>727780864Why do you want a by the numbers predictable story, shouldn't you be bored of that by now?
>>727781316Not him but in this case the problem is that the story is bad
>>727776481I was expecting the worstit was actually decent, and better than the first one in everything
>>727780864>Subverting expectationsOk..what were the expectations? I'm curious
>>727779773The multiplayer for the Naughty Dog games are pretty good and deserve more recognition but that doesn't change that the main game is ass
>you expected more of the adventure with Ellie?>here's Abby (who you don't care about) running around town with a trans kid
>>727776481The story is steaming hot garbage but the atmosphere and moment to moment gameplay is top tier.
>>727782947Uncharted 3 and TLOU1 multiplayer was so fucking fun.
>>727778631The game destroyed ND followers. To this day ND fandom is still divided between Cuckman apologists and Cuckman haters,/v/ takes a piss at the game or Neil from time to time, but the actual fans are mad.
>>727778207>>727782782Would be funnier if she was completely naked and had my cock burried deep within her anus and she was kicking and screaming because it was so painful. Druckmann really failed the fans...
I wish I had an Ellie nextdoor neighbor with parents who work late and no siblings leaving her bored out of her mind and causing her to come over to my place to play and her parents think nothing of it despite the fact that she's 14 and I'm 23 and then we have sex or something and get married
>>727783554TLOU1's MP was fantastic.A Live Service TLOU MP could have been their golden goose... Maybe... I'm not too sure now because ND has really given a lot of people the ick withTLOU2. It was so woke and pretentious that it became a meme and they are only doubling down with Intergalactic. I think ND and Sony Studios in general are done.
>>727784742I don't really see Intergalactic being a Concord tier flop but yeah it'll probably do worse than TLOU2 after it ruined their reputation. Or rather after Niel ruined their reputation. TLOU2 with a MP mode would have been worth the price of buying it on it's own.
naughty dog died with Uncharted 4 as far as i'm concerned. next IP looks pozzed as hell too from the trailer.
>>727782782You'd expect that TLOU "Part" 2 would use the same player character as the first "part".You'd expect the scene you already saw, wherein an evil psychopath wants to harvest a little girl's body for mad science, would be canon to the sequel plot without being retconned.You'd think Joel, a one-man army, would be able to beat a girl in a fight. You'd think, after slaughtering hundreds of people on your revenge quest, you would kill the person who triggered the revenge quest in the first place.
>>727784902How would /v/ rank the Uncharted games? I'd still say 2 > 3 > 4 > 1
>>727784954This is correct
do you think druckmann got tardwrangled for intergalactic or will it be even worse writingi did enjoy tlou2 for its stealth mainly and the roguelite mode
>>727777840snoy fans be like"gameplay is good so the whole game is good"the gameplay: 5 min of combat in between of 20 minutes of shit story
>>727784919>You'd expect that TLOU "Part" 2 would use the same player character as the first "part".There are many, many sequels which don't feature the same characters. Some even take place in the past, future or in a completely different setting>You'd expect the scene you already saw, wherein an evil psychopath wants to harvest a little girl's body for mad science, would be canon to the sequel plot without being retconned.You're not even pretending to have an argument here. You're living firmly in your own world, expecting others to play along>You'd think Joel, a one-man army, would be able to beat a girl in a fight. What the fuck are you even talking about? You're talking about a game you haven't even seen a yt playthrough of>You'd think, after slaughtering hundreds of people on your revenge quest, you would kill the person who triggered the revenge quest in the first place.Good thing the game has nuance, too bad it's lost on morons
>>727785408After how they've reacted to the negative reception to the initial trailer I'd say a hard no.
>>727785780>Good thing the game has nuance,You would struggle to comprehend a picture book. The story is dragging to an end, and Druckmann has written himself into a corner as Ellie finally gets her hands on Abby. Every other scene in the entire game has made it abundantly obvious that these two are unrepentant murderers, and they have more than enough justification to kill each other. No reasonable scene could play out where they both survive. However, Druckmann has written both of them as his pet characters, so he refuses to bite the bullet and kill one of them off. Thus, Ellie's personality pulls a 180 in under a minute, and she walks. It's the most classically terrible writing in existence. Everything in the story points to A, but the writer wants B, so B.
>cancel MP for TLOU2 to pad out an already padded out game>promise that its the next project >Sony spends 3+ billion dollars specifically to get advice for Live Service>do mass hiring>cancel it again after 5 years >"ermm....acktuallyyy...it turns out we make single-player games ha ha and like...I guess you have to actually keep working on/updating Live Service games?!?!? jeez we never though of that :)"
>>727786110they also said they "didn't know" why Ellie let Abby go or something along those lines, so they just did it for cliffhanger
I enjoy the gore and the death gurgles. That's literally it.
>>727786110So the conclusion is Joel dying, Ellie and Abby traveling across the country killing a million people for no reason? Lmfao no wonder they shot his ideas down during the first game
>>727786110>Every other scene in the entire game has made it abundantly obvious that these two are unrepentant murderers"Every other scene"? Like the one where Abby tells her group to let Ellie go even when she swears she'll kill them all? Or whenever Abby decides to put herself in danger for the sake of two kids (who belong to a faction she's been fighting for years)? What about Ellie and the aftermath of her torturing and killing Nora, does she look and act like an "unrepentant killer"?>and they have more than enough justification to kill each otherSee, that's the thing about nuance: if you don't see it, you don't understand or appreciate the story for what it is. Feel free to sperg out, it won't make up for the fact you're retarded but you'll feel better about yourself>>727786236>they also said they "didn't know" why Ellie let Abby go or something along those lines, so they just did it for cliffhangerI'm sure you can provide a source for that claim. Everything about the finished product says otherwise (there are clues as to what's going to happen as early as the first playable Jackson segment)>>727786783>So the conclusion is Joel dying, Ellie and Abby traveling across the country killing a million people for no reason?I'm afraid you only reach that conclusion if you're retarded but at that point you have much, much bigger problems in your life than complaining about a story in a video game
>>727787084>you are le retard, I am smartNot an argument
>>727787084go force your team to watch more live leak gore, druckmann
>>727787156Awww, you're gonna cry or pretend you actually came here for a discussion, for someone to change your mind or explan things? It's not like you made an argument yourself, I'm just here to shoot you down. You and other mongoloids always make threads about games that people enjoyed and moved on since. Like a big pile of shit attracting subhumans, you squeal because you see 5 other cretins post the same "LMAO THE GAME ACTUALLY SUCKED!!1" nonsense with shit-smeared grins, until the thread 404s with 50 replies>>727787238Thanks dude, be sure to buy my Intergalactic! With your support HBO might make a second tv series out of my games!
>DUDE, IT'S GOOD BECAUSE PRODUCTIONS VALUES ARE HIGH>YES, I LOVE MCU, HOW COULD YOU TELL?
>>727787719I think you're having some sort of episode, I just think it's fun discussing this pile of shit story. It's not that serious
>>727776481I didn't much care for the original but it's not a bad game. The sequel however is an absolute piece of shit.
>>727787951Fuck yeah dude, I know what you mean, coming to /v/ to exchange such thought-provoking posts like >727776481>727778842>727780287>727780517>727780864>727783113>727783771is exactly my idea of fun on a Sunday evening! Helps me relax before I continue being a productive member of society who has to go to work the next day, you know? That kind of discussion really gets my noggin jogging, oh yeah it does. It definitely isn't a cry for validation among human refuse, no sir
I just played Part 1 for the first time and finished it last night. I thought it was really great. The story is super standard, but it's plenty serviceable and is able to be carried by the genuine chemistry between the characters and the natural dialogue. I hate video game stories for the most part because of the character interactions specifically. The characters talk like people, yell over eachother, etc.But what had continually impressed me throughout the playthrough was the environment. God damn. Sneaking around the hotel and in the bathroom I walk over a scale on the floor and it goes to 200lbs. That kind of detail is seen throughout the entire game. What I don't see anybody really talk about when it comes to LOU (I think this applies to 2 as well, haven't played it yet) are the real life sets translated into an overgrown apocalyptical wasteland. From Boston, to Pittsburg, Boulder, all of the areas you go through look totally real, and then aged 20 years. I think a lot of kids weren't able to appreciate that when the games released, at least I didn't.I'm both looking forward to and dreading playing part II. Part 1 has the progressive undertones that I really don't mind but it seems very clear to me that 2 really got into the whole culture war thing of like 2016 on. And I think it sucks to contaminate your story with contemporary politics, especially when it really doesn't collide with the realistic gritty world you've already established. You can see this mind virus continued even further with the show. Not that I've watched it, but I've seen enough to know I'm not interested.
>>727788939TLOU2 absolutely does that overgrown city aspect infinitely better than 1. It's genuinely one of, if not the best "realistic" graphics games ever in terms of pure visuals and art direction. 2 is plenty enjoyable if you focus more on the gameplay than story cause 2 improves upon it a lot.
>>727788670>thought-provokingNot even the first game, which had a good story, was that deep. A child can analyze these games
>>727788939The second is actually a good game up until it changes POV and the story goes all over the place, tries to introduce a dozen new characters you don't really care about and you just continue playing to see where it leads (nowhere). Abby being a woman is irrelevant
>>727789136... we've already established you're a moron, you don't have to flaunt your lack of reading comprehension even if it's a badge of honour in your social circle
Anyone who wanted a sequel to Last of Us deserves what happened in TLOU2.
>>727789608nice projection
>>727786165I really wonder what was so bad about it. TLOU online seemed like a easy moneymaker
America is such a shithole it's genuinely impossible to date younger girls here because everyone is so weird and neurotic about age gaps. 16-year-old girls will look at you like you like you're Epstein if you try to talk to them (at least the smart, pretty ones. The ghetto ones maybe not but who wants them?)
>>727789770Might as well post more non-sequiturs if it makes you feel better about being called out
Played Part 1 not long ago and it was great, Ellie is a total daughterfu. Will never play Part 2, fuck the kike
>>727789526Yeah I've always thought this but a game's pacing is one of the most under discussed aspects of game design and TLOU2 is one of the worst paced games I've ever played in my life.
>>727789690Before TLOU2 development many people were against it in forums.After Left Behind dlc and Unharted 4 it was clear that Neil was high on woke farts.Joel death was a given due to Neil hard focus on culture war politics.What nobody expected was how bad the rest of the story is.In the end Neil won all the awards due to his woke points, good job.The game sold half of what TLOU or worse, the mp was cancelled for a reason.On top of that TLOU2 destroyed fans trust into ND, a Studio from the psx times.
>>727776481>DruckmannCorrection: It's Neil KEKmann.
>>727790010You sound cute. You should hit up a highschool and shoot your shot with a few girls.
>>727791080I'll try
>>727790930All he did was make them ugly and lesbian. Bravo Druckmann.
>>727776481>Druckmann is a fucking retardworse, hes a jew.
>>727776481t. joel simp
>>727785697>the gameplay: 5 min of combat in between of 20 minutes of shit storyThe Last of Us literally isn't like that at all.
>>727785697>>727792813Yeah I would say the story is probably less than a quarter of the game. There's a LOT of uninterrupted gameplay.
>>727784919>You'd expect that TLOU "Part" 2 would use the same player character as the first "part".why? even in Part 1 you play as Ellie for a good chunk of the game, and that alone was obvious it was gonna be the shift in Part 2Maybe you just had the wrong expectations.
>>727790801>The game sold half of what TLOU or worseThe remastered was in the top 10 sales in Europe for 6 months straight.You're delusional.
>>727790000If I remember correctly: they tried to do an extraction-like game (the rumors were "tarkov-like") and on top off that still meet Naughty Dog's narrative quality. They brought Bungie in and they asked: how are you going to consistently monetize future content with comparable quality and then they realised that they would have to expand their studio beyond their initial scope. I would bet there was nothing wrong with the actual moment-to-moment gameplay of the multiplayer mode considereing TLOU2 combat is quite good.
>>727793198One issue I had with Part 2 that I rarely see anyone bringing up is how you spend so much of the game just fucking around on your own. In the first game, you had Joel with Ellie together for most of the game, often with some third companion like Tess, Bill or the brothas. So instead of their dynamics, you now just have Ellie or Abby mumbling things to themselves.
>>727776481Liberalism is a mental illness
>>727778207best part of the game by far
>>727790000Bungie told Sony and ND what it would take to keep updating an online game to keep it alive ala Destiny and they got scared of the amount of work because they estimated it would be the same as doing another single player game so they decided to do that instead.
Is there any single point in the story where Abby said sorry or ask forgiveness from Ellie?It's been so long.
>>727776481https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB09mmZvlsw
>>727794721"sorry that you killed my dad"Can't remember that no
If the game was just Ellie, Tommy and jew girl hunting down the crew while Abby is following their steps it would've been a more cohesive story
>>727795798Honestly they could have done basically anything differently and it would have been a more cohesive story. But Niel is a pretentious hack and wanted to have the parralel between Ellie and Abby to show the player that they're the same by literally making you run through the entire fucking game again from Abby's POV. Heck they could have spliced the 2 intermitently jumping back and forth. Why the fuck did they think having all of Ellie's play out getting all the weapon upgrades and shit only to factory reset you and start again. TLOU2 is the most structurally retarded game ever made.
>>727776481Gameplay is awesomeCancelling the planned multiplayer was the biggest mistake of Sony's recent lifeWith the right attention and care it could have blown up
>>727786420I don't dislike the game but thisTLOU2 has the best violence on the marketNothing comes close
>>727786420They wanted to make it sickening. What's wrong with you?
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>>727796929I like that.
>>727778207This section really hammered home how bad the game was, because these two still had good chemistry.Ellie and Dinah made an absolutely intolerable duo, Abby was impossible to sympathise with because her group were cartoonishly evil and all her friends were cunts. Then 3 out of every 5 documents and pieces of enemy chatter is about being gay, which added to the fact that every main character is some kind of gay starts to feel completely ridiculous.Ultimately it's about a bunch of pissy morons on self-destructive revenge quests that are impossible to care about one way or the other, and every time they actually confront their own flaws it's so obnoxiously obvious and on-the-nose it's boring to watch.
Dinah is cuteCUTE
>>727797846The worst part is that that's not even Abby's path in the game.>travels to the aquarium to ask Owen a question>travels to the hospital to save some random kid (who cares?)>travels to their island because the other kid ran away (again, who fucking cares?)>kid dies, they leave Seattle instead, end of Abby's storyline
filteredthe game is amazing
>>727790801>Joel death was a given because of TLOU1Ftfy.
>>727776481is there a mod to model swap the roided tranny? i'll skip the cutscenes but i don't want to play half the game with that thing.
>>727801460Ellie and Abby doesn't play the same
>>727801730doesn't matter, it's just for the visual aspects.I see a mod on nexus that uses a leaner model but the guy wrote that it's a bit rough and could have bugs.
>>727801938Probably because Abby is meant to play like Part I Joel, while Ellie is still the cute and weak daughter and enemies can throw off her like a bag of paper.Maybe this cause some issues while playing with mods.
>>727777784No, he did that with the DLC in the first game already.
>>727778207Peak plebbit
>>727803979I suggest you and half the thread to stay on the ScamTablet 2 paying 30 credits to play music in the desert level in a PS3 tier shitty game.
>>727788670>It definitely isn't a cry for validation among human refuseIt's funny to say this when this pile of shit only exists so duckman could get validation from a bunch of washed up hollywood losers.>NO I'M NOT MAKING A GAME I'M MAKING SOMETHING ON THE LEVEL OF FILM I'M ONE OF YOUNo one that likes games wants the validation of a bunch of child molesters that make subpar slop.
>>727805256I suggest you play some real games instead of wokeslop number 245642
