>es6 has Soulslike combat Will you apologize to Todd now?
>>727788002are you implying that soulslop combat is good?
No.
What bethesda game has combat that feels good? Not a single one of them. I wouldnt trust them with this shit in the slightest
>>727788002why would i praise rollslop? the only compliment i could give is melee having different weapon animations now
>>727788229TES Blades unironically
>>727788002Even Skyrim, after a million mods that try to give it Soulslop combat, still plays better in 1st person.Nobody wants that shit. Just make the RPG mechanics half decent. Hell, mods will probably fix that RPG aspect because of how easy it is to mod. I rather they focus on stuff you can't really fix with mods like quest design and world design.
>>727788002I’d be ecstatic. Combat is always the weakest part of TES
>>727788002it would be a genuinely massive step up and i feel like their fanbase would hate itwhat they actually need more than anything else is a system like bonfires with the limited items and junk, having three trillion weightless stimpaks in your back pocket is dumb as hell
>>727788002it's hardly the gold standard for me, i prefer the shadow of war combat. anyway, you can't have crazy ass monkey shit in a first person game
>>727788229cry moar. nobody plays bethesda games for the combat.
>>727789643I like Oblivion's combat
>>727789643Nothing you said clashes with my post.You actual mouth breather. Saying shit just to twist the knife but not to make a point.
Only way I will apologize to Todd is if ES6 has >Altmer who are attractive right out of the box without requiring 100+ aesthetic mods (honestly applies to every Mer race, but mostly to Altmer) >Features actual roleplaying with choices that matter>no essential NPCs and no fucking essential characters like Delphine>no blue-balling characters like Serana >No settlement system or anything remotely akin to it>No anti-natalist bullshit like the adoption system. Just let me procreate like in the Fable games, for fuck's sake. Adoption is for cucks>No censorship and flat, fridge women like in Starfield. How were the women in Fallout 4 more curvy than those abominations? >Melee combat that feels weightier than Skyrim. I honestly didn't mind that combat at its core. But the melee just felt too "light." Literally. Like my sword was a baton. Probably why two-handed weapons always felt more satisfying than one-handers. I don't give a shit about DorkSouls combat. That shit is a meme. Just make combat feel more visceral and hefty. >>727789734Oblivion's melee combat is worse than Skyrim's. It's magic system is more EFFECTIVE than Skyrim's, but not as fun. It's more efficient than Skyrim's, but again, not as fun. The Magic system from either game needs a serious overhaul though. Todd really needs to overhaul that shit for TES6.
>>727788002That'd be bad. If anything they should ditch 3rd person entirely and go all in on immersion and world simulation. Pull back on realism and trying to be graphically impressive, Add back climbing and flying along with other movement options, do more daily life sim elements, make the player interact more with disease, injury, and survival requirements, have a dynamic reputation system, have most NPCs just be archetypes with a scattering of important named characters for each town or city.
>>727790168All of those things you said would of course be pretty sweet, but you're fucking crazy if you think even one of those things are going to happen in a Bethesda game. Bethesda seems to actively avoid making games that have anything even slightly good about them. Its like they have a shittiness quota they have to adhere to with ever aspect of their games.
>>727788002Fuck no, that would be worse, much worse.
>>727790419>ditch 3rd person
>>727788002todd>make bretons look like half elves >add reachmen as a playable race >make most quests open ended >make the elves look attractive but still alien looking >bring back every skill from morrowind >more choices based on your race >allow me to be evil and kill off people to impact the story, like baulder's gate >make the quests where you helps the Dadra late game
Lock on faggotry doesn't belong in a ES game.
>>727788229I like morrowind pretty good, if you actually have skill in the weapon you are using. spells are always good too ofc
>>727790419>they should ditch 3rd personFuck no. /v/ has the worst opinions sometimes.TODD NOOOO DONT LISTEN TO THEM THEYRE TRYING TO DECEIVE YOU INTO MAKING A BAD GAME
>>727790536Yes I'd rather focus on the 1st person immersion aspect of Elder Scrolls than whatever it is 3rd person supposedly offers. Fashion fags and motion sick babies need not apply.
>>727790504You're right on>actual roleplaying>anti-natalist bullshit>no censorshipand probably>making combat actually GOODbut if Todd can't muster up one last paucity of effort in this swan song of a game he calls The Elder Scrolls 6 for things like >No blue-balling characters>attractive elves that don't look like aborted fetuses (he make Khajiit look amazing in Skyrim, the fuck?) then TES6 is well and truly fucked.
>>727790590Exactly. It's a sandbox, not a lockbox.Besides, roly-poly combat is retarded. Souls combat is only praised because the rest is even less inspired. The idiot among retards.
>es6 has Mordhau-like combatWill you apologize to Todd now?
>>727788229Fallout 4 if you like shooting shit. Melee in that game sucks anus though. All because enemies can block attacks with their arms.
Nope.I want a game with Fromsoft world building and Team Ninja combat
>>727791365Unarmed is unironically better in Fallout 4 than melee. I would say Unarmed is the best in Fallout 4 than Oblivion, Skyrim and Starfield. Not New Vegas though.
>>727791425>Fromsoft world buildingSo you want everything to be headcanoned by the players?>Team Ninja combatcringe
>>727791425>Fromsoft worldbuildingso...nonexistent?
>>727791425>I want a game with Fromsoft world buildingZanzibart...
I played through Elden Ring with the first person mod and it works a lot better than you think in first person, so I don't feel like it would be a bad thinghowever I do not trust Bethesda at all to pull it off and do it well
>>727791569kek, beat me to it
>>727791274Directional attacks are good for flavor and immersion but outside of multiplayer/human focused combat the actual mechanics where they're required to do damage become more tedious than anything and make warriors feel weaker than other builds because they'll be the only ones who need to whack around a bandits shield, where as mages and thieves can just one shot them.I'd be fine with a combat system as simple as Skyrims as long as the general mechanics of immersion around that simple combat were more immersive. Severe bleeding and broken bones, poison or venom, your exhaustion, the quality of your weapons against the quality of the enemies. I'd rather have a simple combat system that rewards attacking particular weak spots on an enemy or inflicting status ailments than a complex one where you're ultimately just doing a lot more work to bash someones body.
first person melee combat never works and is always boring. That's why first person shooters is an entire genre and first person melee is super niche
>>727791798It would need crazy funny physics to work and that harms immersion
>>727791798It's perfectly fine if it's relatively boring compared to other games. The focus shouldn't be turning Elder Scrolls into a turbo action game where you do action rolls and air combos. The focus should be immersion and survival in the fantasy world of [Insert Province]
Skyrim just needed a dodge or roll to make it fun.
>>727791798Some of the mods, like limb based damage kinda make fpm combat work.
>>727791274Chivalry/Mirage or Mordhau combat in a TES game would make me cum buckets.
>>727792268How would they balance magic though?
>>727788002Fuck on, only braindead faggot like rollslop combat, it should be like that one old ass game with the succubus
What makes the combat in these games feel like shit, is how Bethesda implements blocking. It just feels terrible when you swing a weapon and an enemy blocks it. And it happens on almost every fucking swing. You never really get the feeling that you are swinging your weapon at enemies and doing damage. That's why they felt the need to implement the "cinematic kills" to actually make it feel badass because otherwise it feels like shit.Because there is so much blocking, combat entirely revolves around reducing the enemy block, which means you have to shout all the time or power attack every swing. it feels terrible. I understand that blocking is a normal part of melee combat, and I guess it might be realistic, but that doesn't mean it's fun to play.
>>727788002i actually like modded Skyrim's combat. lot of retards try to make it into some sweaty Mordhau bullshit which is a hard pass from me
As long as they are using gamebyro based game engine it doesn't matter whatever they crank out because it will be janky shit.
>everyone says Souls have the best combat>they always to the same fucking 2h build each gameYou can already do Souls combat in vanilla Skyrim. You just swing the sword and take a few steps back and repeat.
>>727788002Soulslike combat by anyone other than Fromsoft is just code for>Slow>Tedious>Poor animation workThey should contract Arkane to make their gameplay so that the game doesn't suck ass and let Bethesda work on the only thing they're actually good at anymore (worldbuilding)
>>7277926861. Bait an attack2. Parry3. Kill
