>Humans are the real villainsWhy is this trope so common in vidya?
https://z-lib.id/book/on-the-genealogy-of-morals-1
>>727794580Humans are inherently evil.
>>727794580Because humans ARE the real villains.And we've been self aware of this for all of eternity.Even look at our religions, our own gods that we made up hate us and punish us because of our evil.That's literally just our own minds making up our hypothetical creator and then representing our guilty feelings through their hatred of us.Lol.
>>727794580>The only thing humans are good it is war and reproducing Why is THIS trope so common in space vidya
>>727794580>Anunnaki drag humanity into yet another space war>humans are too stupid to see who is pulling the strings
Why do liberals never whine and bitch about the Arab slave trade. They only complain about the American slave trade.The American slave trade was almost entirely africans selling other africans to Brits living in the USA, and Jews. Most whites and europeans did not even participate in American slavery because most europeans were not even living in america yet. Like Greeks, Italians, etc. Many white people were not even living in America when slavery was a thing, so why does "white guilt" just apply to all white people if Greek Americans never participated in slavery, their ancestors never owned slaves in america but they are expected to pay billions in reparations because they are white? The Arab slave trade was worse for blacks than the American slave trade. And the American slave trade was mostly just Brits and Jews buying slaves from Africans who were selling other africans for money at the time lol.
>>727794580because muh spess kangmuh spess kang told me to do it
>>727794580Because it works
>>727794745>>727794845Fuck you faggots i've never done anything bad. I'm just a sperg wasting his 30s playing old vidya gaemz
>>727794898>only good at war and reproducingFunny how this can describe the Imperium of Man and the Skaven.
>>727795273Post nose.
>>727795450>A person is smart>People are dumb panicky dangerous animals
>>727794898Because default humans are seen as plain and boring when compared with any alien race you can imagine. People don't imagine humans evolving in crazy ways or creating weird technology. StarCraft actually managed to avoid this a bit by making the Terrans cool despite being fairly down to Earth.
>>727795454Both are shit at war though, they fight each other just as much as the enemy
Because stupid people who refuse to allow intelligent people to correctly blame them for their abuse have way too much influence.
>>727795707>Both are shit at war though>they fight each other just as much as the enemyThat's how they're so good at it. Imperium and Skavendom win wars because they don't give a shit about losses and spend almost all of their time and energy towards being backstabby little shits under constant threat of violence.
>we are an unstoppable ruthless machine of death>but please don't accuse me of killing unarmed oil traffickers
>aim for the male audience no girls allowed>entire fanbase is nothin but mentally ill women
>Humans BAD>Aliens BAD>Everyone BADThere, hire and praise me
>>727796091Psycho Warriors are unironically way cooler than Space Marines, and somehow more reasonable too.
>>727795454Imperium has a trillion resources they aren't using correctly and Skavendom has 100X more bodies than every other faction, yet somehow hasn't won. Both are dogshit at war.
>>727794580If it's so common in vidya, why did you post a screencap from a recent non vidya cartoon?
>But guys...what IF we are the real badguys™ all along?
>>727794580I want a sci-fi game where Humans are the badass warrior caste for alien overlords. I feel like that would be a pretty unique depiction for Humans instead of just being the plucky under dogs or the big evil empire.
>>727796469>
>>727794580>That clone wars 2003 shout out.Genuinely cool detail.
>>727794580Millennials and Gen x-ers were taught to hate themselves by their boomer parents.The repressed trauma permeates the creative works of their generation.
>>727796091Inaccurate, they would throw them into a neighbourhood volcano
>he doesn't recognize the inherent greed of mankind
>>727796205Call me biased, but i think Space King in general is more interesting than modern 40k, reminds me a lot of the Rogue Trader days, also they do produce a game or work on minis at the very least, i can't get enough of this
>>727796850Because there isn't, thats cultural rot spread by jews via media
>>727794580Because it's the easiest twist and "aliens bad because" alone gets boring after a few hours.
>>727796574Why would humans be better at fighting than any other race?
>>727796715My favorite internet pseud is the one who claims certain tropes have only been around for 50 or so years
>>727796091>Make a show with literally nothing but endless boys>wtf why are there so many gays/trannies/femcels in the audience?
>>727794580Because by making humans be the target of criticism, it forces the audience to look inward and re-evaluate themselves, and make changes where needed. It's basically propaganda.
>>727796679It was hilarious just for the fact he got to hear Zach Hadel scream "I LOVE SPACE KING, SPACE KING FOREVER RAHHHHH", but I thought it was extra funny how the people he was gunning down were just running away with no attempt of fighting back.
>>727796914Show me in the history page where the jews influenced tribal expansion in cultures they never once touched
>>727796947how long has vidya been telling complex story's again?
>>727797052>expansion=greed
>>727794580Self-reflection, self-criticism and introspection. Something which you apparently never done
Imagine if they somehow got the devs behind Boltgun to make a SK shooter, i know it's unlikely, but i can dream
>>727794898>humans are only good at war and reproducing>and organisation>and technology>and farming>and mining>and industry>and perseverance>and...
>>727797205South Korea shooter?
>>727797052>Native Americans>have a deity that kills people if they hunt too much>Chinese>block themselves from all foreign trade and expansion until Westerns force then to>Japanese>do the exact same thing as the Chinese >Greeks>being too ambitious is hubris and always ends in a fateful tragedy >Romans>literally copy hubris from the Greeks
>>727797038his psychic nose told him which were the most vulnerable.
>>727797272Hahaha wow so funny, take my golden (You) kind stranger
>>727794580>All human history shows humans being terrible to each other>Be annoyed when it shows up in fiction
>>727796926It could be because a scientifically advanced species that has crazy weapons and military technology and the ability to genetically modify people into becoming super soldiers, but their society/biology/psychology makes them weak as shit and really bad at war, so they need a more naturally aggressive and warlike species to fight for them. Like they COULD make soldiers out of their own species and pump them full of combat drugs and genetic modifications, but they still end up being weaker than a regular Human civilian. It could also be that they're a species that reproduces or reproduce through a slow costly cloning process. Something like that.
>>727797052k.>Characterized by their headwear and inhumanly large noses, the tengu are harbingers of war and destruction
So how long until the games workshop jews try to cease and desist their ass?
>>727794845Most European religions were Our Gods Are Lunatics And Thats Why We Are Like This
>>727795273Because Arabs aren't white.You are bad for misgendering someone, the rest of the world is cultured for having no flushing toilets, practicing MGM/FGM and being corrupt democracies, fake democracies, oligarchies, anti-democratic, anti-west terrorists, and straight up absolute monarchies.
>>727797205They set up for a game pretty obviously.>Reclaimers are squads of 4>They have a respawn mechanic>They constantly go on solo missions without backup or their backup is irrelevant >Missions are usually mundane stupid made up shit like candles space king touched so they can be randomly generatedI would imagine that when they finish setting up their studio and get episodes out much quicker they would try to make one.
Wegh
>>727796091I dont believe thats true at all
>>727794580Because that's how it is in real life too. When something bad happens to you, how often is it because of bear or a deer? 99.9% of the time it's another person screwing you over.
>>727797580The third episode reminded me of the cut bonefire mechanic from had planned for ds3, like imagine if respawns were limited by things like how many spare kids you had and/or if your teammates' globules were destroyed
>Humans are inherently evil, tainted by original sin and are deserving of eternal punishment for their sinful existence. There is not one human that hasn't lied or cheated or stole or murdered or has lust>B-B-BASED TRADITION!!! SO TRVE!!!>Humans are a selfish species with a history full of war, subjugation, and greed, and cruelty. Should they develop FTL travel, they would turn into a horrible galactic empire that would have no qualms when it comes to stomping out primitive alien races>DUUUUDE That's so fucking lame. Imagine having this much self hatred for your own kind.What the FUCK causes this mindset?
>>727797580>They set up for a game pretty obviously.... the cartoon series is a parody of boys making up shit in an RPG and being boys.It's not that good to translate for a video game.
>>727797442That makes sense. I immediately think of the small guys from Men in Black.
>>727794580San Fran devs tend to be self hating cucks.
>>727797990Nta, but episode 3 felt pretty videogamey, i don't think it would be hard at all to translate it into vidya
>>727794580because when they make humans the good guys they get called fascist because retards project onto the aliens and make the whole thing about racism or some shit.
>>727797580So they are gonna make a Warhammer game but with Rick and Morty jokes?
>>727798120Average HFY tard
>>727794580I really want to make a space king fps but I'm to lazy to start it
>>727798135I really don't see the Reddit and Morty comparison, R&M's humor is based around improv, references, and le 2 deep 4 u irony and self deprecation
>>727797984Both are responses are denial.
>>727795273I don't really have any genuine beliefs to be honest. I just want to kill people who have more stuff than me and be praised for it.
>>727798163See? Cant do it without these people.
>>727798203Why not just make a Doom mod? Pretty sure that there are plenty of fanmade 3d models you can use for sprites
>>727798258>I just want to kill people who have more stuff than me and be praised for it.This is unironically how goys think
>>727797236>>and organisationWe're usually bad at this though, they always make us mad at each other and shit
>>727798463Are goys an acceptable target to hate? Can I kill them and wish for death and scream for their blood and then have all their stuff?
>>727798554They are, which is why they're our bitch
All humans are guilty of the crime of existing in Lord Moloch's world, and must be punished with an eternity of torture, except for a small group of rich, powerful, sadistic sociopaths, who will be permitted to live in utter luxury and oversee the torture of everyone else, just because blatant unfairness amuses Lord Moloch.
>>727796876it's not really more interesting it's just a good parody. Space King kind of looses context without 40k
I always thought that the Whites were going to be replaced by the browns, but it looks like we are ALL going to be replaced by the AI. I don't know if that's better or worse tho lol.
It’s just one expression of the modern leftist need to deconstruct and “critically reexamine” narratives and media in general. You can see it in history, art, even math these days. Nothing is allowed to be good anymore, everything must be placed under a new, modern lens of analysis and judged by modern (leftist) standards. Just like modern culture re-examined the colonial era, the Imperial era, and others, and decided that all the old narratives people used to be taught of it being good were actually a bad thing, modern leftists need to go and apply this attitude to every piece of media they can find. It’s also why buildings these days are grey and ugly, and why modern art is a joke. People are disillusioned with their history and the idea that anything can be “good,” so, as that logic follows, humans are not allowed to be good in any form of media either.
>>727794580Because its true to real life
>>727797236Humans are good at a lot of things, and do enough good to balance out the bad. One of our most remarkable traits is our empathy and ability to pack bond with basically anything. To that point, you've probably heard the expression "the canary in the coal mine". You probably assumed these canaries were just expected to die. But no. Miners got upset about their canaries dying so canary resuscitators were invented to revive the bird if it passed out. In the 80s when electronic sensors became the norm, some miners opposed them in favor of the canaries because they felt companionship towards a tiny yellow bird. The bird who's only job originally was to die.
>>727794580You look at this board alone and tell me that people here aren't evil.
>>727798872:,(
>tell them about per capita
>>727799096So? Evil people are everywhere. So are good people.
>>727795273Because they are ignorant of how fucked up the world is at large and can't get social media bonus points bitching about an issue the rest of the normalfags they associate with don't know about.
>>727799219Good people are the minority, if we go by statistics, being evil is being normal, and being good is the anomaly
Humans can be pretty horrible but, historically, we have gradually been becoming more peaceful and less savage as time has progressed. First world countries today are, for the most part, extraordinarily peaceful and safe places to live compared to the vast majority of human history.>>727799381Being selfish and indifferent to the suffering of others is more the norm than outright sadism, good is rare though.
>>727794580Is it, tho?I feel like a lot of issues people talk about aren't common in books at all and are mostly in discussions between nerds on the internet?
>>727799006>some miners opposed them in favor of the canaries because they felt companionship towards a tiny yellow bird. The bird who's only job originally was to die.One day we'll have everything automated by technology.No animals, no family, just a cube to live in and hormones injected into our veins to keep us from going stir crazy. We might even solve death.
>>727797132Unironically yes.
>>727794580We are the demons of the animal world, we can bring entire species into extinction, there is no animal strong enough that can take on a weaponized human, we enslave entire species for work, amusement, material gathering or consumption, might makes right, and we are the mightiest animal in existence.
>>727797236That sketch is fucking retarded. Human advancements in technology that make life easier are not an excuse for terrible behavior and unnecessary cruelty. They aren't even related at all.
Just came to say that BRYCE IS A BITCH.
>>727794580Your view is recruitment to that odea. To make it true so you are seen as ok.It isn't. People are great. Kind, work a lot to make the world great for them and others. They lend amd see beauty.Normal beIN nice.Some that define themselves otherwise are denying that truth. Avoiding having to be as such. Lowering expectations another are adequate in others assesment.You have big shoes to fill being a person. Much of a life to live.Much to keep, continue, alive with you. Valued.And need to remain respectable to others.Some do the wrong thing. That tried to deny to keep them trying as nice sometimes. Like trying to find a way to keep nice going and normal and in charge.Some things aren't able to do the right thing. People can. And do try to. Some right is defense, and ensuring ahead, behind, here, is nice. Adventure and options. People able to choose whobthey are and better than choose. And to have company with others they may like.Some treated badly don't deserve it. Some do. Some are spoiling something. And aggression against it keeping that commitment to enjoyable existance.Sometimes relenting on standards is settih yourself under bad ones.
>>727794580Is it?
>>727794580I think I wanna fuck that alien...
>>727794580holy chungus is that a gaza reference
>>727799597The sketch is>what did forrinas ever do for us?>everything>oh I guess we're bigoted and stupid
Humans are not an inherently Evil race, but Power is wholly corrupting and the most direct paths to increasing power are Wealth and Violence. Therefore, people in Power will always tend towards the proliferation of Wealth and Violence as a means to increase their Power. This is in itself not ingerently Evil as well, as Power may be used against Evil, and Wealth and Violence in turn can be used for Good.Yet, maintaining Good often runs counter to maintaining Power, therefore those with Power will often turn to maintaining Evil, as Wealth and Violence are most easily proliferated through Evil.When one's Power becomes Absolute, they must decide whether to use it for Good or for Evil. When one views this choice utterly detached from those who do not have Power, as is typically the case for one who achieves Absolute Power be ir through their own labor or through inheritance, one will tend towards Evil because they inherently lack the Humanity to have empathy.Such is the case in Space King and 40k; Humans are not Evil. The people who control Humanity are, through the Power they hold, Evil, and rule Humans. The Imperium and Chaos are both Evil, but that does not make Humanity itself Evil.This should be extremely fucking basic shitnto understand but somehow people still don't realize it sometimes.
>>727794745They are not, and to say such is to insult the creation of God. Humans became evil, they were not created as such.
>>727799629t. Retard Terry
>>727794580Humans are an invasive species. All they do is spread and destroy. soon we won't have fauna and flora left.
>>727800038Power isn't corrupting, corrupt people seek power. There have been good kings in history who ruled fairly and showcased great altruism - and they were very often assassinated, ousted or simply replaced following natural death by a brutal, power hungry tyrant that didn't give a shit at all. Good people don't care about having power over others, except to make things better. Evil people crave it like nothing else.
>>727797320>Native americansNative americans are odd because we don't know what happened their attempts are civilization like Cahokia and then there is whatever pacific northwest tribes were doing>ChinaChina is an odd beast, some dynasties closed off trade while others, like Tang(best dynasty btw) were really into that>JapanJapan too, it was mostly for Shogun or Emperor trying to retain control over ridicilously unruly vassals>Greeks and RomansHubris is universal, literally everyone can get too big for their britches and fail due to being overly ambitious, see.also Alexander the Great and a Roman Empire in its entirety
>>727800000PRAISE BE, TO DIGITS KING
>>727794745>inherentlySomeone picked up on this word and I only never see it as bait, so good job whoever that was.
>>727800000Nice quints.
>>727796926Why would any other race be better at fighting than humans?
>>727799528>We might even solve death.Please no
>>727797205Isn't there a Space King mod for SM2?
>>727800483I think the only Space King mod in there is the hatemace
>>727799528Keep dreaming, troon. The pleasure cube is impossible for reasons you're too stupid to understand so I won't even bother explaining myself. Fuck you.
For a second i thought that it would be funny if they had a reference to nigga frieza, but then i remembered he was Gonzossm, not Flashgitz.Still, how would you make the cameo?
>>727800057>tfw Terry the Retard is still smarter than Bryce the Schizo at full mental capacity
>>727794745If you think humans are bad, wait until you find out about chimps and ants. Humans are peaceful compared to how bad it can get.
>>727800693I don't think Gonzossm's edge would work with Space King, it's too gross in the old newgrounds way while Space King focuses more on the comedic and rule of cool side of things
>>727800805Intelligence is stored in the globules
>>727794745t. shut-in chud that never goes outside his home.Why don't you go touch grass, incel?
>>727801113yet even with a crushed crotch Terry is still smarter than prime bryce
>>727794745if you truly believed this, then the only reason for you to still be alive to post this is that you're too much of a coward to kill yourself. this means that you are either disingenuous or cowardly; either way, i ignore you.
Guys, i think we might be the evil ones...
>>727794580leftists took over the industry
>>727796091Based
>>727798482Go look at what happened in just about every nation during WWII. Entire nations working together on hopelessly complicated things. Humans are extremely good at working together you just have to give them purpose.
>>727800000>Fucking quints wasted on having to explain a joke to a retardGODDAMMAT
>>727800646I meant it as a bad thing.That we will remove everything that makes us happy in a vegan future.
>>727794580Given war crimes of the collective species still taking place I could see that. You have people on this very website that condone things like pet animal abuse and call it 'non if deal" or "based" even. Evil species with a potent few exceptions.
>>727801706*No big deal* or "based" even. Whoops.
>>727800056>Humans became evil, they were not created as suchand why is that?>create humans>create a world where they have to compete for resources to survive>humans do horrible things to each other in said contest of resourceswhat was God's expected outcome? rigged game
>>727802060They didn't start that way if you believe in the Abrahamic origins.
>>727801602so.... again good at war
>>727795523This is mathematically impossible. There were far more slave owners than jews at the time in America. Most US jews also lived in the anti-slavery North. Also none of the listed "sources" actually corroborate the claim... because the time span both are about are WELL after the Civil War and the abolition of Slavery.The jewish population of the US was negligible until WW2 and the emergence of Soviet Russia, a good number of years after slavery.The majority of Southern settlers were the Scotts-Irish after the Brits destroyed their clan-structures (an d with it ended feudalism on the British Isles) and they held DEEP anti-central-government attitudes because of it, which made them lean more into basically replicating their clan structures over in America... which led to them embracing the homestead and plantation lifestyle and reject the federal government. So those slavery driven plantations were the closest things they could do to get their feudal clan lives back. Instead of peasant serfs they simply had slaves now.
>>727802126>They didn't start that way if you believe in the Abrahamic originsPersonally, I don't "believe" any specific religion, I'm agnostic
>>727794580>Chudgitz
>>727794580>Why is this trope so common in vidya?It isn't.
>>727802264Understandable, then it begs to reason that you can't put the blame on some generic sense of god, since the concept is culturally unique and varied.
>>727794580>doesn't understand sympathy toward non-humansare you from the peoples republic by any chance?
>>727795273I don't give a shit if my taxes go to slave reparations. What I care is my taxes currently going to Israel.
>>727802240Kirby_Item_Bounce.wav
Latest episode was dogshit>TIME TO INVITE A BUNCH OF ECELEBS TO MAKE A BAD EPISODEEvery time
>>727796091>My chick's fat!
>>727794745>tips fedora
>>727802240they don't actually believe what they say they don't care if its debunked they're aware they're intentionally spreading misinformation
>>727802429I can see the nonsense inherent to different religions. Humans are judged and blamed for their imperfections and consequences of living in an imperfect world.
>>727794580*gestures around*
>>727802060They became evil due to being convinced to do so. Following that though, that original sin was passed down, with redemption only being capable through the Christ. It is specifically with knowledge of good/evil that something can become evil.However, since you're agnostic, you should still hold to the idea that mankind is not inherently evil unless you stand on the position that the divine, whatever they are, are lacking in justice and created man to be evil.
>>727795273The ones pushing the political messaging literally just want to topple white institutions to replace it with their commie globalist bullshit. They're pretty open about it with their various critical theories (Critical race theory being the most famous).
>>727798872>Space King kind of looses context without 40kNot really? I don't know shit about 40k, this stuff holds up very well in a vacuum. It's just absurd hyperviolence to a casual watcher. All their principles are extremely straight-forward, "humanity good, alien bad." I didn't need to pick up a novel to grasp that.
>>727803495go back polfag
>>727803359>They became evil due to being convinced to do sobut they had no previous knowledge of good and evil so how could they perform an evil act? That's like calling a lion evil for killing for food.I do not believe that mankind is inherently evil, that was someone else.
>>727796205>>727796876>>727798872I really can't stand Warhammer 40k's reddit tier lore and 'OMFG that's SO COOL, muh CATHEDRAL ships and GRIMDARK' bullshit that seems to attract fat balding men in their 30's, but Space King is pretty fun
>>727794745This, hopefully we're extinct in 200 years
>>727794580Well there isn't really anyone else around except us and orcas.
>>727795707So do the fucking orks, and they're the most successful species in the galaxy.
>>727802168War is the most complicated thing since you are doing everything at once against an opponent doing the same. Everything else is simpler and easier than war. If you are good at war you are good at manufacturing, planning, organizing, optimizing etc.
>>727803614lol bot got triggered
>>727803614nothing he said was wrong tho
>Humans are the real villainsJust passing by to drop this shit fuckin story some other anon posted, because the ending sucks and i'm ANGRY about it.https://archive.org/details/chrysalis_202010/mode/2up
>>727805283my african american brotha you think I'm gonna read 268 pages of some redditor's shitty fic?
Are there settings where God is real (not omnipotent tho) and humans are God's chosen species which turned humanity into space jews in the intergalactic community?
>>727795273because judeo christian civilizations teaches self hate and fetishize suffering
>>727797236peace?
>>727805416Mein nigga, i'm not forcing you to read at gunpoint
>>727796876>also they do produce a game or work on minis at the very leastReally?Though about modelling some myself because i couldn't find any STLs.
>>727794745i dont thing so, we care for our young, the invalid, even other animal specieswe are capable of incredible cruelty, but its not as common as our compassionwe are however, very prone to mistakes and misunderstandings
>>727794580Because it works in real life. Every time you hear someone say "they were just looking for a better life", it's the same thing, they want some of your shit.
>>727796469
>>727794580Libshits
>>727794745I've actually come around to believing thishumans need to act on behalf of something to do good; parents work on behalf of their children, keep themselves clean on behalf of their relationship, their social status, etcif somebody feels frequent hunger and tries to get something to eat, their intelligence fails them and they act primal to fulfill a base needthe less "natural" something is, the less humans will care about it. Like employees following a code of conduct probably
>>727806082you niggas really love to misinterpret that study huh?
>>727796205It doesn't fill in too much. Same reason (among others) why SCP sucks. Far as I recall flesh that hates isn't some mystery all consuming biological entity in Russia now it's related to the hurr durr sarkists. Everything always circles back to that or some other canon. Same shit in 40kOne reason I like space king is it's just an unadulterated trip back to the classic 2000s internet humor. Hatemonger is a ridiculous over the top racist but the comedy isn't that he's racist and that's bad, it's that he's so autistically obsessed about it.>Imaginator drops book>Robots all start activating and saying "Thirteen percent" "Thirteen percent" "Thirteen percent" "Thirteen percent" and other stats>Captain: "Aw shit, they got Hatemonger."Can't help but smile at that. Sometimes flashgitz doesn't do it for me but harry potter spazkaban and space king has been stellar.
>>7278028363 > 2 > 4 > 1
>>727794580to keep us humble about how awesome we are at purging xenos scum
>>727794580>are we the baddies?>gets shotI kek'd
>>727794745Humans are inherently good and are willing to care for the entire planetIt is the environment that we live in that turns people evilOf course there are rare exceptions of people who are evil by nature
>>727796091It's both, but there does seem to be a surprisingly large girlbase for Hatemonger, which is super ironic considering he hates women.
>>727806435Enlighten us
>>72779887240k WAS a parody, until it took itself too seriously. Space King is kind of like old 40k, dumb fun for little boys.
>>727796091>women
I don't know how they do itBut i watch every episode without pausing or stopping
>>727796205The gross out humour is sometimes a bit too much though. Especially with the latest episode.
>>727797531>Because Arabs aren't whiteAccording to us federal gov race classification, they are along with north Africans. Bear that in mind every time you see stats about white pedophilia.
>>727795273everything people bitch about is a way to take your money and feel good about it (but not like that!)including VIDEO GAMES?
>>727795450Exactly. You're doing nothing and twiddling your thumbs when you could be doing something good with your life. You are evil.
>>727796091That is a worrying observation
>>727808329Living in peace and quietly enjoying life cannot be evil.
>>727795273>Why do liberals never whine and bitch about the Arab slave trade.Because muslims are brown.
>>727796091I'm OK with girls clinging to masculine hobbies and making their ironic or unironic fanart. Especially in this case, where the creators aren't going to throw boys under the bus pursuing them, guaranteed.
>>727808701People are dying and you are doing nothingEvil
>>727795273The last arab country to ban slavery did so in the 1960's. The biggest difference with the arabs and the American slave trade was the Arabs were ruthless. They castrated all the male slaves and out right killed them when they got old or injured. Africa was a stones throw away so they had an endless supply. The Arabs got away with it because they didnt leave any slave descendants.
>>727809265More slaves exist today then ever beforeThe arabs never stopped
>>727809072but what if anon tries to do something and only makes things worse to sate his heroic complex? what then Picard?
>>727809265Hmm, that's good logic, we should keep that in mind for next time.
>>727794745SO HECKIN TRUE
>>727809476Then he tries to fix that tooNot trying is one of the most evil things you can do. Same with being neutral
>>727800000The sketch is making fun of the kikes for hating the Romans
>>727809476The man who tries might fail. The man who doesn't try already has.
>>727809593>Same with being neutralMoral neutrality and political neutrality are very different, it should be noted.
It's crazy how an entire generation shaped its morals to "spite Reddit". Not because of some deeper conviction or some huge historical event, just flat out making certain ideas forbidden because they're cringe, they've been done too much and now they're not fashionable, like it's a fucking hat that's no longer in vogue.
>>727806435Nothing is misinterpreted, the explanation is literally in the paper.
>>727810076preddit literally ruined the old internet charm by being even more outwardly insular and faggy than old 4chan (complete with constant namefaggotry) could have ever been, it also doesn't help that the "original" shit they came up with amounted to protojaks and child bullying
>>727794580I like that not even chestnut hesitates to start blasting
>>727794745>>727794845No. That's delusional.
>>727794745You got “them” mad with this one
>>727794745Describe "evil". Because compared to every other species on this planet, we're the only "good" ones.
>>727810076>It's crazy how an entire generation shaped its morals to "spite Reddit".Reddit's culture creates resentment. It has its own /pol/ underbelly that drives traffic, which is mostly complaining about other people.Would you call it spite if your society is rewarded for looking through comment histories to find dirty laundry, baiting out key words to cause incidental bans (sometimes from reddit's admins such as saying you agree with "violence"), and to use a voting system not to mark helpfulness or relevance but as a weapon against wrongthink?Some anons on this website are trained in the power of reddit. Does that scare you?And that's to say nothing of the "good" parts of reddit. Sycophantic, unproductive, bizarre idolatry. It's utterly alien to anyone not within its ecosystem. What isn't there to not like? Or better yet, what is there to like?
>>727809485you mean, never buy slaves from jews no matter how much they try to sell them to you?
>>727806082>>727806435What even is it supposed to be?
>>727819247>conservatives care about those closest to them before anyone else>liberals care about space rocks before human beingsI don't know what the edit is supposed to be for.
>>727794580Cause they're made by self-hating left-tards that think humanity should end because they didn't get handed everything they wanted on a silver platter or think the le wholesome animals matter more than we do. It's just mental illness.
>>727794745Just the brown and hooknosed ones.
>>727794745incoherent schizobabble. nowhere will you hear this being uttered sincerely except in a villain monologue from some cartoon/game for retarded children.
Is there any game out there where humans are just a boring minor race just trying to survive in a larger universe?Mass Effect kinda hinted at this but then went full Humanity Fuck Yeah pretty quickly.
>>727803104>intentionally spreading misinformation>intentional mistaken informationjews are not sending their best
>>727819690>before human beingsThe study looked at whether humans should care about these things, not what you care about first. Reading comprehension is important anon.
>>727820709Wrong, retard.
>>727820709That's even worse.The basic text there is about arbitrary moral points.You're saying liberals, when asked what to care about, focus on animals, plants, trees and literal aliens, but not your acquaintances, let alone your family. That's what the heat map describes.
>>727807279>>727810097>>727819247>>727820814>By moral circle, we mean the circle of people or other entities for which you are concerned about right and wrong done toward them. This depiction demonstrates that people have different types of moral circles. At the innermost circle, some people care about their immediately family only, and at the outermost circle, people care about the entire universe--all things in existence. Please use the following scale and select a location that depicts the extent of your moral circle.>Please click on a number that depicts the extent of your moral circle. Note that in this scale, the number you select includes the numbers below it as well. So, if you select 10 (all mammals), you are also including numbers 1-9 in your moral circleFor those of you who failed basic reading comprehension the question being asked here is not what is more important, but who should be considered at all. It is not a question of X before Y, but X and Y.
>>727796926Have you seen the fucked up horrific shit humans do to each other without outside influence? They would be great for doing all the unsavory things you don't want to or can't do yourself.
>>727821039>For those of you who failed basic reading comprehension That's you.
>>727820932That is incorrect. The study is looking at whether you should considered others at all, not what comes first.
>>727796574So, Stargate from the Jaffa's point of view?
>>727796091No 'competition' for the self-inserters to do what they want.
>>727795273Liberals throw a colossal shitfit whenever anything is hosted in any arab country due to "human rights abuses". Did you forget the last world cup?
>>727819247how far you'd consider something "sapient"liberal retards consider rocks and trees sapient, and conservatards don't consider their neighbours sapient
>>727797205It should have a Duke Nukem style protagonist who's constantly spouting funny one liners.
>>727797205>Yet another Doom clone.>By the devs who made the utter snorefest that was Boltgun.No thanks.
>>727821140You've misread it again. The point the researchers are explaining here is that you can't put a point in one of the sixteen circles and have it cover multiple concepts. They're just distinguishing between the sixteen categories. You're trying to create a fake narrative that Conservatives care about family first and Liberals compare about others first but that isn't what the study looked at. It looked at whether you should ever consider other groups. That's it, its not priorities or hierarchies only the broadest concept of applying a moral ideology to anything else. This study is also flawed as fuck because it only ever tested a max of 250 people. That isn't a big enough selection to be valid.
>>727794647FPBP
>>727821148Libs care more about palestinian and transexual general population than they do their own family, friends, and countrymen.>but the study-It is demonstrable. If you have a wrong opinion on one of those they'd cut contact with you.
>>727794745You dont believe in evil
>DOOOOOD racism lmao>DOOOOOD slurs lmao>DOOOOOD toxic masculinity lmaoholy reddit
>>727821290The study has nothing to do with sapience. See >>727821039>>727821556That isn't what the study is about and now you're making generalizations that make no sense.
>>727821039>>727821148>"who should be considered at all?">the categories are mutually exclusive>heatmap gravitates towards literal inert rocks>conservatives have a more even spread of moral units or "care" than liberals, who think closest relations deserve the least care>>727821250Euro here.Liberals now want Palestine to be in Eurovision just to spite Israel (and for Israel to be banned). The pretend reason is "War bad" but that should disqualify both. That's before pointing out which one is compatible with liberal ideals such as not killing gay men.Liberals actually idolise moving to an Arab country to do work but would swear off moving to the US. There is a real problem with this.
>>727802060Humans were originally immortal, invincible, and had unlimited free food. The world where people have to struggle to survive was a punishment.
>>727821761Again you've simply misread the study and misunderstood it.1. The study is asking whether you should at all consider other entities2. The study makes no references or indication towards the weight of those entitiesYou're saying X group would consider A over B. The study is actually saying that people in X group are more likely to consider A, B, C, D and F. Not the order nor weight of which is more important.
>>727794580episode 4 was mid
>>727794580If we werent Id be bitching about it. Humans are obviously innately better than some fantasy monsters or aliens at anything we put our minds to so it just makes sense one of us could be more evil than those losers if we tried.
>>727822021Agreed it wasn't edgy enough about the 40k fandom to be funny.
>/v/ likes redditgitz nowdamn this site truly turned to shit, og /v/ wouldve been repulsed by this shit like we were also repulsed by racist mario
>>727821761They care about Palestine but not the rest of the Arab world.Again, see the Qatar World Cup, or the autism every year when it comes to the Esports World Cup esp. in more libroid communities like the FGC.
>>727821983>Finally, we assessed the heatmaps generated by participants’ clicks on the rung they felt best represented the EXTENT>title is "Ideological differences in the EXPANSE of the moral circle"yeah, it's pretty obvious. This meme is the result of retards who can't even read.
>>727821501>>727821983>yes the study says it's mutually exclusive>which is why liberals didn't place care equally across all categories>X group are more likely to consider D, E and F>Y group are more likely to consider A, B and C>it's fake news to say this is indicative of preferenceI suppose Hitler did say when you lie, make it a big one.
>>727822716>This meme is the result of retards who can't even read.The irony in that this applies to both hardcore libs and conservatives.
>>727822842I think you should probably focus on learning English before posting to be honest.
I dont get the appeal for HFY. Arent there better power fantasies?
>>727794580Downtrodden nerds are generally the ones creating content.
I wonder if these niggas are gonna start making STL model alternatives, if not their own wargame based on early 40k editions or some shit. Granted the former would probably wear itself thin at some point and begin to annoy players.
>>727821501They literally say they rank ordered and the results were largely the same.
>>727796091Nice try faggot, youre the same guy calling straight porn gay.
>>727802240At least it's not that other infograph where the source is just a last name and page number. I'm all for using high quality historical sources to shit on the Hebraic swindlers, but that is just awful scholarship.
>>727821501Why do you keep lying?> fake narrative that Conservatives care about family first and Liberals compare about others first>implying libshits do not care more about third worlders than their own neighborsI don't need a study to see this.
>>727822948What have I failed to understand?You wrote it plainly.Maybe you need to reword it rather than blame the audience.Shall we go back to the part where you directly quote the article and explain to us dipshits what it is we're reading wrongly?I mean if we can't understand the text, then the people taking the test would have wrongly understood it in the exact same way, meaning we can interpret the results and you can't, even if to you it says something different.
>>727823086They'd have an audience for video games, no one who watches their shit will interact with a human bean.
>>727823012You dont want to root for the species you belong to? Avatar is what you get.
>>727823243All the study proved is that conservatives are actual retards.
>>727822716You're reading the description of a different task and not what the description under >>727819690says, retard.
>>727823243>conservative: hm, well I care most about right and wrong done towards my friends, my family, and my country too, I bet those liberals will try and put their points towards the natives or something>liberal: ALL IN ON ROCKS
>>727823350Illiterate libshit cope.
>>727823350>One caveat to Study 3a is that we constrained the number ofunits that participants could assign to each group, forcing participants to distribute moral concern in a zero-sum fashion (i.e., the more concern they allocate to one circle, the less they can allocate to another circle). Although research suggests that people indeed do distribute empathy and moral concern in a zero-sum fashion 24-26, this feature of Study 3a imposes an artificial constraint.>Therefore, to examine whether a similar pattern would emerge without this constraint, we conducted Study 3b to test whether the effect would replicate using unlimited units.You are cooked.
>>727822268Reddit hates them for keepin' it chuddy in current day tho.
>>727822948Yeah, I don't really see how anyone can fail to read something as obvious as this. its super clear in the language that it describes the "expanse" of your moral circle. all the highlighted text below includes family and friends too.Besides that, I'm glad we have super autists who really care deeply about rocks and minerals. We wouldn't have shit like integrated circuits or planes if nobody cared about researching them. Tesla wouldn't exist if everyone's moral circle only included friends and family.
>>727823459>One caveat to Study 3a is that we constrained the number ofunits that participants could assign to each group, forcing participants to distribute moral concern in a zero-sum fashion (i.e., the more concern they allocate to one circle, the less they can allocate to another circle). Although research suggests that people indeed do distribute empathy and moral concern in a zero-sum fashion 24-26, this feature of Study 3a imposes an artificial constraint.>Therefore, to examine whether a similar pattern would emerge without this constraint, we conducted Study 3b to test whether the effect would replicate using unlimited units.>>Study 3b is a conceptual replication of Study 3a, allowing participants unlimited moral units to distribute to various circles. Conservatism was positively correlated with the human allocation proportion score only, r(261) =0.14, p=0.025, and hence negatively with the nonhuman allocation proportion score (for means, see Fig. 6). A multiple regression using the human allocation proportion score as an outcome variable with political ideology, age, gender, and education as predictor variables revealed the same significant effect for political ideology (see Table 1). Thus, even when participants’allocations were not constrained, the same pattern replicated such that liberals distribute empathy toward broader circles and conservatives distribute empathy toward smaller circles.You. Are. Cooked.
>>727794745Living things are naturally opportunistic, because something that isn't will die first. Not remotely exclusive to humans. If aliens exist, they're the same way. The kind of person who spouts this melodrama this just wants to justify their misanthropy.
>>727807661Kys
Where's the porn of the Not!Tau? They've literally got pussy mouths.
>>727796914pride greed and sloth are the most bemoaned vices of man since times immemorial
>>727794580yes they are hypocrites
>>727795273i wonder if they know the arab slave trade it literally still going on right now lmao
>>727823086nigga tabletop is exspensive only nerds with IT jobs can afford it
>>727823751Now everyone can tell you can't read.
>>727823705>people caring about minerals is why we have SCIENCE!>I fooking love science me!Anon, the care is in protecting rocks, not consuming and abusing them in a colonial, imperialist manner. I guess you love Elon Musk because you're a heckin materialist, just like him.
>>727803798Space King is a pastiche of what 40k used to be in its earliest editions, which was still dark but considerably more silly with a blender of pop-culture sci-fi and British punk of the time. 40k gradually shifted to grimdark with 3rd & 4th.
I love that libs from reddit are getting absolutely blown the fuck out about a study that shows how aggressively inhuman they are.The fact that their entire theory rests upon the experiment not being rank ordered, and then (because they failed to fucking read the white paper), when shown that its rank ordered and zero sum leads to the same results, they fucking BREAK.
>>7278065742>1>3>4
>>727824102Whats study 3a, libnig? Its rank ordered and zero sum. You are fucking cooked, all because you didnt read the study and instead allowed yourself to get fucking bamboozled on reddit about it.
>>727824174>my side is b- bad?>uhh uhh...>n- no!>it's the heckin other side that's b- bad>the study is wrong and illegitimate!>um achtually the study says this, chuddie!>i heckin LOVE space rocks!In safe spaces, I expect these types to be saying "And I always hated my family. Alien rocks forever!" to raucous applause.
>>727824097'STL' would imply 3D printing, of which does have a not insignificant upfront cost and learning curve, but will quickly pay for itself compared to solely buying Citadel minis.
>>727824136>he says this as he's using a computing device made with cobalt mined from the congo
These are the people who consistently identify with orcs or alien space bugs rather than humans, and then they want to convince you that the study shows the opposite.
>>727822268Reddit already hates the show because the creators shut down the whole>You know this show is making fun of you right chud?!Accusations
>>727823751>deflects to a different study that literally has nothing to do with the fig. 5 heat map itselfThis does explain why conservative islamic nations are so riff with animal abuse and corruption and are so stagnant when it comes to scientific progress
>>727824527As per usual, choosing to not understand when proven to be wrong.
>>727794580Humans = white people Aliens = browns Game devs = jews
>>727823769being opportunistic is evil. or, if you're arguing it's all moot because humans are just opportunistic, then a lack of goodness, by definition, is also evil.that's not true either way. animals are capable of caring for you unconditionally. yes, they'll eat you if need be. but that has no bearing on the former.humans don't. humans are scum specifically because they cry out in pain as they strike you.
>>727794580Humans are the only evil species we know of
>>727824571
>>727825980>animals are capable of caring for you unconditionally.They typically do not, for the record. But maybe an especially friendly pet dog or something might. Throughout nature, that is not nearly as common as you seem to be asserting, and that's easily observable with how voracious and cruel the animal kingdom is on a daily fucking basis. Anyways, humans have the same capacity, and there have been countless sacrifices for someone else throughout history. Men going to war to protect their families. Mothers giving the last scrap of food to their child. To say "IT DOESN'T HAPPEN" is such pointless melodrama from a misanthrope. Probably stemming from some very specific anecdotal story from your own life that you'd like to blanket apply to the entire race. Or maybe you're the problem, and you'd rather just think your own selfishness wasn't a choice.
imagine being directionbrained in current year. the pendulum just keeps swinging.
>>727824396Broken.
>>727825505Its the exact same study, done at the exact same time, from the exact same people.Broken.
>>727826514Just call the whole middle "slaves to the overton window" except mapping out all of political thought on a visual 2 axis map is always oversimplified
>>727826481animals have the potential to, that's the difference. yes, they're not going to be overly friendly in nature where everything is out to get them. but the potential is still there.the same can't be said about humans. in literally every single one of your examples there's some external reason that inflates one's own ego to justify their "sacrifice"humans are simply not capable of caring for others, even selfless acts are usually (always) driven by selfish reasonsnot to mention>They typically do not, for the record. But maybe an especially friendly pet dog or something might. Throughout nature, that is not nearly as common as you seem to be asserting, and that's easily observable with how voracious and cruel the animal kingdom is on a daily fucking basis.also applies to the human world. except it's even worse for the reasons I mentioned above.
>>727794745>all the retards responding to this as if it's some extreme claim when it's a foundational belief in Christianity and thus western societyReminder that people genuinely believe they have done nothing wrong in life and will fight tooth and nail not to believe God is real because it would logically imply that there is an objective good that they fall infinitely short of.
>>727826585>>727826641>BrokenUh guys, I think the bot just broke...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW3YB2ptGwshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AssQqRk3qQM
>>727826712>animals have the potential to, that's the difference.That's not a difference at all. Could you not make a choice to sacrifice your own well being for someone else? Of course you fucking can. You're a rational, thinking being and you have, I would argue, FAR more potential to decide to do that than something that operates on pure instinct like "FOOD FOOD HUNGRY ME EAT"Think logically for a moment and you'll know I'm right. But you won't because you'd rather be a mopey teenager. "WOE IS ME, WOE IS THE WORLD, HUMINS R EVUL">in literally every single one of your examples there's some external reason that inflates one's own ego to justify their "sacrifice"So a fleeting feeling of doing good is TOO MUCH credit, and shouldn't even be there? God, you are such a sheltered child. See how good your ego feels when your stomach is literally digesting itself because you gave your last remaining food to another.
>>727794745Add me to the screen cap
>>727797984>>727798254Both responses are meaningless without first accepting the forgiveness of Christ and accepting that you are an evil person but still worthy of God's grace.
>>727794580Because the alternative is humans being meaningless specs in the universeIf we're the evil unstopabble bad guys, at least it means we matter
>>727794745ok Hobbes.
The fact that they didn't show the alienfucker guy and the capitalist(?) getting executed ruined the episode for me
>>727797984>mankind is self-defeating is the same as mankind is retardedly omnicidalRetarded frog
>>727798961>Leftists are why buildings are grey and ugly>Leftists>MoneyNo, that's corpos realizing that bland buildings are easier to sell to the next tenant. And also grifters realizing that, in a capitalist economy, stirring drama for clicks and attention is far more conducive to the bottom line, especially if the problem is basically a nothingburger as you will get both positive and negative reactions. There is no such thing as Left or Right in mainstream America, only corpogrifter and Israel.
Humans are based, except indians
>>727799597Yes they are and the romans did literally nothing to the jews that they didn't deserve>oy vey how dare they build these hospitals, roads, schools, irrigation systems, let us keep our own religion, let us keep our own heirarchoes, give us security from our hated neighbors and then just expect us to pay taxes oy gevalt annudda shoah!
>>727826971think back to every good deed you ever did. at any point did you feel gratification for doing it?if so congrats, you're a fucking moron proving my point.
>>727820709>Highest Moral Allocation
>>727828130Why is feeling good inside bad? And what is that minor feeling worth? What does it take away from? You just want people to act on things for no reason, internal or otherwise? Stupid. Utter stupidity. Animals don't do that either. They think "I should do this" and then they do. Or else they wouldn't do it. You are romanticizing the animal kingdom out of nothing but lame misanthropy. Grow the fuck up.
>>727822268You sound like a cuck
>>727796469>That's pretty insane
>>727828130Animals know what pride is. Otherwise you wouldn't see them clashing for alpha of their packs. So how do you know a dog doesn't feel a sense of pride over sacrificing for their owner? It stands to reason that they do.
>>727828264you really are a brainlet aren't you.that thing you're referring to is called ego. and it's the reason why humans are inherently evil.>Why is feeling good inside bad?because it proves your selfless acts are not selfless at all. being selfless is not the driving force here, it's the selfish desire to "feel good inside"fucking moron, I swear
>>727794745Only God's chosen.
>>727794580Gen-x nihilism
>>727794580All the best villains in real history have been human.
>>727828543Animals have ego too. Why do you think a dog responds when you scold or praise it?>because it proves your selfless acts are not selfless at all.A "selfless" act by your description literally cannot happen. Every decision a living being makes is a result of brain chemicals. You are asking for a spontaneous action. You may as well call rocks "good" because it can't feel.The only brainlet I see is the one with expectations that do not fucking exist.
>defend xenoscumStars are for no one else but us to take
>>727821039The people memeing that study literally don't believe it's possible to care about the lives of brown people and white people at the same time.
>>727795273>why do americans care about americayou really thought you cooked with that one
>>727794580Because we've killed God and dominated nature to the point where man vs man remains as the main literary structure
>>727807165>which is super ironic considering he hates women.this guy is only just now finding out women are so fucking psychotic and fucked in the head the best way to attract huge swathes of them is to treat them like shit because they fucking love it
I didn't think space king was funny.
>>727828834it does not exist because humans are inherently evil. yes, that was my point all along. humans are incapable of selfless acts and, like you yourself said it, are generally awful 99% of the time. similar to the animal kingdom.>Animals have ego too.debatable. but even if they do, it's not similar to the human ego.>Why do you think a dog responds when you scold or praise it?instinct, centuries of domestication.
>>727828271you're an election tourist and you should go back
>>727794745jews aren't human though
>>727826641this same study? >>727823705All it's measuring is whether or not we should care about things outside of the immediate people we know(basically not being a nigger). If we had people who only cared about their family or friends, every country would be a corrupt shithole run by an african warlord.
>OMG WE SUCK>THE WORLD SUCKS EVERYTHING IS GOING TO GET WORSE>BE ASHAMED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR FLAG>BE SELF LOATHING LIKE MEEEE!!What is up with the 24/7 demoralization in media these days? I get misery loves company. But people genuinely are addicted to outrage and doom posting.I dont get it. Cause I instantly roll my eyes and swat it away like an obnoxious fly. And I figured it'd be common sense for everyone else to do it too. No instead they're hooked on it and try to shove it in your face too.
>>727829097>humans are inherently evil.It's no longer a matter of humans being "evil." Merely that your ideas of "good and evil" are just as underdeveloped as your frontal lobe. Someone feeling slightly good for an act that leaves them significantly worse off is not too high a cost. Once again, you are just a stupid fucking child who expects "good" to just happen for no reason at all.>debatableNo it isn't. Explain to me then: How does a dog respond positively to being praised, and negatively to being scolded? It has the capacity to understand self-worth. You CANNOT debate this, you have no other explanation.>instinct, centuries of domestication.What you call "instinct" is called "a brain that works." A human is the same, just smarter.I think the real problem is you're just too stupid to hold a conversation with. You're actually closer to an animal than a human, so... CONGRATULATIONS! You're on your way towards being your own mythological definition of "good" based on your own broken logic.
>>727828543>hehe, for you see, I have defined every single action someone makes as intentional and thus something they enjoyed more than the alternatives and thus everything everyone ever does is the epitome of selfishness which is why me being extremely """selfish""" is actually identical to the most self-sacrificing person who ever livedmaybe teaching literacy to masses was a mistake after all, now we have to read shit like this all the time
>>727797236>Reproducing>Organization>MiningThe buggers beat humans out there, eusociality is a hell of a drug. Squishy insect Critters so diggy diggy....>War>TechnologyYeah fair enough, their tech is pretty good. Humans are like these cyborg ape people making themselves super strong with all those cybernetics... gah >FarmingThe rocky ones got humans beat there... you'd think rock people wouldn't be good at farming but yet they cornered that sector of our alliance's economy, go figure >IndustryHumans a close second to those tuurtle guys... maybe they could catch up>PerserverenceI dunno, there are those strange aliens who were able to hibernate in a comet for thousands of years... I don't think humans can do that. But maybe if they believe in themselves they could?
>>727828190Read the thread chain
>>727824396>>727824174See >>727823705 and >>727821501What you're engaging in is tribalism. An us vs them my side must win mentality of thinking. You're warping reality to fit an agenda that doesn't exist.The study, which by the way is worthless because it only counted 250 people and only in the USA, is about what to include within a moral dilemma not the weight you apply to it within that moral dilemma.
I tried to watch this Hatemonger thing but it just seemed really gay. I don't know anything about Warhammer, I just know was pozzed media smells like and this didn't pass the sniff test at all. I feel like if I look into whoever is making this shit I will find jews, gays or whatever else.
>>727829204This probably wasn't written by a jew, because jews want to stay different. To have their own supremacist's cult and to do deals behind white peoples' backs that actively only enrich themselves at everyone else's expense.
>>727829327>>727829328it's funny because both of yous are trying to argue against semantics>humans are incapable of selfless acts>literally>making them, by definition of the word selfish, inherently evilbut even then just look back at history and tell me that a majority of it is not just humans being the absolute worst>b-but I gave up my seat for an old ladymost people on twitter are also "selfless" to a psychotic degree that puts their own life in danger, that does not make them good peopleat the end of the day 99% of mankind would fuck you over without giving it a second thought, we don't need semantics to observe that humans are inherently evil
>le humans have free will memeSurvival of the fittest gene operates with or without free will. You are in as much control of your life as a cell is on its own. A random number that either lives or dies because of its genes suitability to an environment.
>>727802240>>727803104>>727823216The source is literally at the bottom of the pic. Does your hooked nose block your vision from the bottom of the pic?
>>727794580I'm not convinced Psycho Warriors are humans
>>727794580because normal people are dull and lack self awareness. its even harder is to make them aware of their society, its hypocrisy, and failings.
>>727830004The little boys they take over are.
>>727797320The Chinese didn't actually block themselves off from trade, instead you had to PAY CHINA for the privilege to even be allowed to trade with them. They had massive treasure ships that would go around and collect free shit from various kingdoms so that they could trade with China at all. Then along come the English with their fancy ships and their advanced technology thinking they're equal to the great Chinese dynasty and they fuck it up because they weren't allowed to buy more tea.
>>7277945802 > 3 > 4 > 1
>>727815629Without getting into religion, "evil" is most simply defined as "doing intentional harm to others for personal gain or satisfaction." Conversely, being a "good" person involves benefitting others, generally without expectation of reward. By these qualifications, which we, as a species, came up with to judge ourselves by, the vast majority of people are not good, and a significant portion are outright evil - assuming that we can define someone as one or the other based on the total quantity of evil vs good actions a person takes throughout their life. Very few people go out of their way to benefit others without getting something out of it, ever, but almost everyone is regularly unkind or selfish. It is fair to conclude from this that people are inherently evil by nature.
>>727794745>anons reject fundamental right-wing beliefI guess 4chan is a leftist siteNeat!
>>727830131apparently earth hasn't been featured in the show (yet)the little boys aren't "human"
>>727794580Have you met humans before?
>>727830295Humans exist on multiple worlds across the galaxy. Their Earth probably isn't even the origin of the species in canon. Unless we're dealing with a "distant future" situation. I guess that's just as likely.
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>>727799006Given how other cultures treat animals, I'm not sure "empathy" is a universal trait when you have various Asian cultures just eating the animals while they're still alive so the suffering adds to the flavor. Or most of Africa that just sees other humans as on the menu as well to the point where they think eating the heart of your enemy gives you his power.
>>727795273because they’re American, why did it take 12 replies to point this shit out? Why the fuck would americans care about Arab slave trade.
>>727801172>i ignore you.>replies to that anon
>>727795273Where the fuck did anybody mention slavery prior to this post? Also no shit American liberals talk about the American slave trade.
>>727824174>study proves conservatives are tribalistic niggers>NOOOOOO we shouldn't care about people and things outside of our own little worldwhat a retarded meme. the only thing inaccurate about the study is that it gives the same amount of moral units to conservatives as everyone else.
>>727794745cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>>727794580Show me any other species that tries to kill its own planet
>>727830704jews
>>727830284The modern right wing is completely owned by the evangelical movement, so they have a kneejerk reaction to anything resembling an intellectual thought even if it's a statement that served as the foundation of reactionary thought for centuries. If the statement had been religiously coded, ie "Humans are inherently sinful", they would not have cared.
>>727830704cyanobacteria, they poisoned earth's atmosphere with oxygen killing off 99% of all life causing a massive ice age that could have wiped out all remaining life on the planet if it wasn't for a bit of lucky solar activity thawing it
>>727830593It also proved that liberals have no concept of loyalty or friendship and feel more empathy to theoretical concepts than actual people, especially people they know. So the people telling you they're more empathetic are also the same people who would sell your soul for a corn chip and not bat an eye.
>>727794745You're inherently retarded.Captcha: 222OK
>>727795450>Fuck you faggotsthis is an evil thing to say anon
why are people basing anything off a study done with faulty methodology on a tiny sample size which was never independently reviewedis it just because it's the literal only study you can find that supports your worldview?
>>727831106One of the most popular methods of arguing has always been>My group smart, strong, and moral>Your group stupid, weak, and evil
>>727823979This bitch get the flamewerfer,i don't cares if she is hot
>>727830783Probably because there's nothing wrong with the statement: "Humans are inherently sinful"
>>727830704literally every r-selected species would gnaw the earth down to bedrock if it wasn't for predators keeping them in line
>>727830789the study is about morals and ideology(how we believe we should behave). Pretty much everyone views their friends and family as being more important than everything else but having the MORALS that we should consider others despite that is what the study is about. It's the difference between a high-trust and a low-trust society.Just compare something like Japan or Switzerland to any Islamic or african shithole. Its good to have loyality to your friends and family, but only keeping it at that is a recipe for wars and stagnation. It's also why only 10% of conservatives are scientists.
>>727829617I hear ya. It has some pretty good ideas, so the people who made it aren't utter retards, but this whole kidnapping-and-turning-boys-into-men thing is just extremely homo, especially how they draw underage boys getting undressed and then put machines on their crotches.
>>727832000premium bait
>>727794580Because most issues in the real world are man-made. Creating a fantasy creature to blame everything on it while fun also feels artificial and lacks any bite.Not saying "u can't write evil aliens" or whatever but sometimes you just want something a bit more grounded and sobering.
>>727829617>explicitly tries to cater to you>still call it wokeLighten up, no wonder your side doesn't make art
>>727803582Exactly. There's still a lot of people who can grasp these basic concepts, not everybody needs to be Metroid Prime 4'd.
>>727829617>>727832052
>>727794580But i like being evilKilling is fun
>>727806456>Hatemonger is a ridiculous over the top racist but the comedy isn't that he's racist and that's bad, it's that he's so autistically obsessed about it."But how is the audience supposed to HECKING understand that that's bad and that's a way they shouldn't act unless we look at the camera and TELL them, anon????"
>>727832052You're the kind of person who can't even be in the presence of a joke about a penis without feeling super insecure. Straight people don't need to trumpet "HEY ISN'T THAT GAY?? THAT'S GAY RIGHT?? HEY GUYS DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S GAY? AREN'T YOU WORRIED YOU AREN'T STRAIGHT ANYMORE?!"Like, is the joke about sucking dick? No? Then why did your mind go there?
>>727832516kidnapping, undressing and putting a machine on the naked crotch of underage boys is not some weird protection, that actually happens in the show
>>727832772would you laugh if someone made a cartoon with graphic rape of an underage boy (as a joke of course), because you are afraid of being viewed as insecure by your peers?if yes, what are some other things you like to laugh at?
>>727832793>protectionyou're indian>inb4 'IT WAS JUST A TYPO'the keys arent even close to each other
>>727820546You should look up what a word you don't know means instead of just guessing.
>>727831783"Humans are inherently evil" and "Humans are inherently sinful" are virtually identical statements.
>>727832887A joke about rape is far less absurd than a boy having his testicles replaced by slimey alien spheres that turn him into a fucking elephantitis juggernaut. These things are not equal and it's pathetic I need to break this down like this.
>>727805473Halo kind of
>>727833030"virtually" but not identical. And it just so happens the distinction makes one true but not the other.
>>727833001white catholic german btw. brownskins and leftoids are the ones who love homosexual child rape. I don't think its funny or interesting.
>>727825951>"White people" are an amalgamate of countless other peoples>Jews, for some reason, don't consider themselves part of this or any other category>Jews orchestrate modern culture so they're surrounded by millions of obnoxious nogsI'm starting to think they're actually fucking retarded, I didn't think they'd this blatantly be trying to induce the events of Revelation.
>>727833109Then define the difference between the two in your mind
>>727833054if you feel the need to draw how the kids get undress and how machines are put onto their naked crotches, I have a bit of a newsflash for you: you are likely a homosexual pedophile.
>>727833164"Sinful" implies they are pulled toward unjust desires. "Evil" implies they have no redemption, no recourse. They just are bad.
>>727833171Oh fuck off, you have the same sensibilities of a soccer mom. Men understand absurd things are funny and you aren't any closer to "raping a boy" just because your cartoon depicts something absurd and bizarre like "globule extraction." Get a fucking grip on reality ma'am
>>727833295sorry for not being into the depiction of boys getting undressed and watch them getting their balls manipulated by a machine. not everyone can be a colossal faggot I guess.
>>727829709>Toby Fox
>>727833356Look at you. You can't even identify intent. I'm not watching this show because I'm masturbating to it. I'm watching it for the humor and absurdity. Unplug the internet and go police your own morals in the dark, you sad, joyless wretch.
>>727801172if he's evil then why wouldn't he want to do evil things like staying alive?
>>727829289>All it's measuring is whether or not we should care about things outside of the immediate people we knowilliterate nigger. What is zero sum? What is rank ordering? If you understand both of those things, and realize that the plot doesn't significantly change, you will understand how fucking disgusting liberals are.
>>727794580>watching chudgitz shitty warhammer ripoff unfunny edgy turdAt least when they rip off from copyright material its remotely funny, but those ass designs makes the videos unwatchable
>NOOOOOOO I'M GOOD!!!>*does nothing but spews hatred towards other people his whole life*
>>727833238> "Evil" implies they have no redemption, no recourseNot usually, the "Humans are inherently evil" line is usually taken as part of a Hobbes style argument that human's require an order or hierarchy that puts them on a just path. It is more often than not used in the exact way as you say "sinful" is used (people have a propensity for unjust acts), the only real difference being "sinful" makes it explicitly religious. Efilists aren't particularly common, so you rarely see it used as "humans are irredeemable"; but they do exist, so I will give you that.
>>727799545>having 3 kids is now greedylmao
>>727833698It can be used in the same way, I'll grant you that. You seem very reasonable, I really don't have a problem with anything you said.
>>727833698Efilism doesn't make a statement about the moral state of mankind in particular, however. Efilism is the purest form of the logic of "it would be better if there were nothing" where they advocate for the extermination of ALL life because life is suffering no matter who or what experiences it.
>>727833442>You can't even identify intent.how utterly ironic
>>727834091Oh I know he's trolling, don't you worry.
>>727797236>>and organisation>>and technology>>and farming>>and mining>>and industry>>and perseveranceAll products to fuel war, do you think the industrial revolution wouldn't happen even though it directly benefited the war effort tenfold?
/v/ will tell you they're not evil while actively waging stupid internet wars whilst keeping the ill-intent to kill anybody that dares to have an opposing opinion on wether they like Skub or not. And you shitposters dare to get philosophical and all ''HUMANITY FUARK YEAR'' while sitting on your phone doomscrolling, pathetic.
>>727830704look up the great oxygenation
>>727794580Name an animal that's more 'good' than humans. You literally can't.
>>727794745>all these replieslmao
>>727832000The issue is that liberals have gone to the extreme in the opposite direction. So yes, Muslims being extremely retarded that they'd kill you in favor of their own is bad, killing humans in general so you can save the idea of the environment is equally bad.>>727819690refer to the heat chart as an example.
>>727819690don't the extremely based and superior nipponese master race literally worship nature and rocks and shit?
>>727834032>it would be better if there were nothingAlmost correct. It would be better if there was nothing except Lord Moloch.
>>727834032There's a pretty common brand of efilism that is just unrepentant edge. Not just the extreme negative utilitarian argument, but full blown "le humanity DESERVES it" misanthropic type stuff. These also seem the type of efilists that would argue the "irredeemable human" angle for obvious reasons. It's not a serious belief system, but it's a surprisingly culturally prominent one.
>>727794745speak for yourself nigga
>>727834796>disagreeing with me is literally genocideShut it troon
>>727835445No. They think it's really weird that foreigners actually love and cherish their gods. They've got more a greek style "lets not piss any gods off today" attitude with a bit of nature harmony.
>>727835720I hate that moloch fellow, he always tongues my anus.
>>727795273Because they are antiwhiteBecause they hate youBecause they want you full of White guilt to allow your culture, heritage, inheritance and genetics be destroyed.Antiwhiteismis the issue
>>727836091don't kinkshame moloch
>>727835445at least nature and rocks is something.meanwhile baka gaijin worship a desert jew on a stick who died two thousand years ago and has been overdue to come back for the past one thousand nine hundred plus years, but trust me he'll be back real soon for sure this time.
>>727833001He's probably a filthy phoneposter, which doesn't discount the indian accusation, incidentally.
>>727830583They want to say their beloved great white plantation owners were saints and shit lol
>>727836556>But guys the Jews did slave trade>But guys different warring African kingdoms fighting uhhh betrayed their own kind somehow because they just did, okay?>But the Arab slave trade guys come on talk about that instead... oh you supported some filthy Iranian feminists back in 2022? Fuck off woke lib, those based imams know how to treat women properly!
>>727836635>>But guys the Jews did slave tradeYes>>But guys different warring African kingdoms fighting uhhh betrayed their own kind somehow because they just did, okay?Because Africans are retarded and wanted guns>>But the Arab slave trade guys come on talk about that instead... oh you supported some filthy Iranian feminists back in 2022? Fuck off woke lib, those based imams know how to treat women properly!Women are retarded as seen by the shit they vote for. It's the only thing muzzies are right about.
>>727836128MAGA is way more anti white than any mamdani or liberal could ever dream of being. Mamdani likes white people as New Yorkers like he likes any New Yorker. Meanwhile MAGA hates white people and wants them to die of opioid addiction while throwing their life savings away at the latest Trump grift as white owned small businesses get gang fucked by tariffs and ICE agents taking away their servants if they don't bow to MAGA enough
>>727836763>Mamdani likes white people as New Yorkers like he likes any New Yorker.lollmao
>>727794580It's the most basic, surface level subversion so it appeals hard to midwits who are having their first critical thought bouncing around in their brain like a pinball machine. It's an idea you should find fascinating when you're a little kid who's experimenting with storytelling for the first time, but these types always get stuck in it and think it's the smartest thing a writer can do.
>>727836330>redditor>impotently seethe about Christ Reminder all redditors serve the jew
>>727836760>White southerners were all Jewish ???? I bet you also believe that "evil black plantation slave owning man" shit Dinesh was throwing out there
>>727794845>hat's literally just our own minds making up our hypothetical creator and then representing our guilty feelings through their hatred of us.Jewish religions maybe. Native western and oriental belief systems aren't like that.
>>727836091Well, Lord Moloch hates you infinitely more than you could ever hate Him. He hates everyone who isn't Himself, and He hates everything good.
>>727836853Do yourself a favor and look up the percentage of southerners who had slaves. You might learn something.
>>727836763>trump out of nowhere Kek also mamdani wants the white race destroyed and is a jewish pawn
>>727836853Majority slaveowners were jews. Even then I don't give a shit about niggers being slaves, only that the retards from the past didn't ship all of them back to Africa where they belong and now we have to deal with the brainless apes knifing women on public buses now.
>>727794580Because people think the grass is greener for other intelligent life forms when it really isn't, they are built from the same forces of evolutions as we are.
>>727836853>white southerners were jewishYes they were jews
>>727805629suffering would exist even without religionreligion explains suffering as a unavoidable part of life that can also lead to self improvement
>>727794580Wypipo(freemason's) be da villains it's not da jooz wake up y'all ong niggaz sussy frfr
>>727795273>Why do liberals never whine and bitch about the Arab slave trade. They only complain about the American slave trade.Because they are literally not educated enough to even know about it. If you asked a liberal about the Arab slave trade they would assume it meant White people enslaving arabs.
>>727794745Correct.>>727826713Just another day of people not reading the bible.
>>727837001Aka GANGSTALKERWypipo even be skibidi gangstalking square enix FR
>>727836990Molochism explains suffering as the human race's punishment for existing in Lord Moloch's world. Our misery nourishes and amuses Him.
>>727836763Delusional.
Southerners white washing history again lol>"No we didn't beat and whip slaves we were like parents to em and helped those monkeys find god and they made mighty good kids to sell down the street, most slavers just let them all die but we are so goofy good we bred them like race horses and made them like picking cotton like it was what god put them on earth for">No it wuzzzz the juuicce they did it all they stubbed my toe and caused my flashlight to break too>But the numbers we lie about and misrepresent anon, the numbers!!I like the smell of burnt plantations in the morning
>>727836763Don't you get it? Being pro-white doesn't mean *not* stomping on white people, it just means stomping on everyone else even harder.
>>727836827good goy.don't forget to donate to israel so jesus can come back faster, i hear redditors hate that.
>>727837139Moloch isn't a god, it was the name of the sacrifice ritual itself and those children were sacrificed to Yahweh. The practice is condemned in the Bible because it was introduced by foreigners, but you have a fundamental misunderstanding about the entire thing.
>>727837237Please read a book.
>>727837237If niggers didn't want to be slaves they should have fought harder back in their shithole of a continent so they didn't get sold off for some guns.
>>727837246It has to be that, since What the fuck Trump even do that benefits white people, he called white people fucking idiots to the point he'd rather hire pajeet labor on H1B visas.
>>727837398I love the sound of bucks breaking in the morning...A soft coo..Often a whiplash..*lights cigar*Hheeeyup*Puffs merrily*Them boys dun put to WORK
>>727837350NTA but "actually the slaveowners were all jewish" is far from the orthodox opinion.
>>727795273No one in europe feels guilty over your retarded business venture into slavery.Europe gets shit for colonization.
>>727837498He blew up random boats and stopped the South African white genocide or something idk
>>727830462
>Nothd southerners were good boys they did nothing wrong just ignore the ship packed with corpses of the black slaves who didn't make the trip and the rape babies sold at auctions bro that was the juice bro if it's a white guy you think did a bad thing they're actually a secret Jew because whites can't do any wrong ever ,
>>727794580nigger
>>727830462>>727837601Rundown on this creature?
>>727837308Only American Evangelicals support Israel
>>727794745Jews arent humans.
>>727795273>Why do liberals never whine and bitch about the Arab slave trade. They only complain about the American slave trade.because there are no living descendants of arab-traded slaves to complain about itbecause they were castrated
>>727837719Hobbes argues that humans would descend into chaos and violence without society keeping them in line, and thus argues for a strong central authority, this is in contrast to Rousseau who argued that men are naturally compassionate and free and that society holds them down. So the guy on the cover is supposed to represent Hobbes's idea of society, the titular "leviathan".
>>727794745I can do no evil, for I don't know what that is
>>727837956>Rousseau who argued that men are naturally compassionate and free and that society holds them downwell that aged poorly
Leftists are biologically unable to love and care
>>727838096If you shape your definition of "men" well enough it's probably true
>>727838136This is coming from the same group that say "this is what I voted for xD" anytime someone shows revulsion towards their behavior.
>>727837956Damn, I didn't know Rousseau was that delusional.Hobbes is not wrong, but I hope he wasn't actually putting his faith on men.>>727838229Semantics at best. There are just humans.
>>727796914Lol
>>727795273>The slave trade was all the UKIs this going to be the new thing? America deflecting the blame for even more of their bullshit towards us in a desperate effort to look squeaky clean?
>>727838304I'm probably not doing Rousseau's argument justice just because I do lean towards Hobbes myself. I only bring him up because the two are both sides of the coin. "Humans are inherently evil" and "Humans are inherently good"
>>727794745>they hated him because he spoke the truth
>>727838368Well, I'll research into that anyways. Thanks for the quick rundown.
>>727838297Make no mistake, there is an ungodly amount of trash on the right too. But there is literally nothing worth keeping on the left.
>>727838136Fuck that's hot
>>727838304>There are just humans.Kek, there are plenty of subhumans
>>727837398This. Might makes right. The strong are entitled to brutalize the weak. The world exists to be a massive torture chamber. Sadism is what really matters. The simple joy of stomping on the weak, over and over and over and AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! PRAISE EVIL!!!!!!!!! PRAISE CRUELTY!!!!!!!!! PRAISE LORD MOLOCH, THE INSANE DEMON GOD WHO HATES EVERYTHING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>727838543Everyone is subhuman! We're all just meat for Lord Moloch to devour, and the only reward His faithful servants get is that we'll be the last to be devoured! BUT NOT BEFORE WE PERMANENTLY RUIN THE WORLD IN HIS NAME!!!!!!! PRAISE LORD MOLOCH, DEMON GOD OF SELFISH, SPITEFUL CRUELTY!!!!!!!!!
>>727838695>Everyone is subhuman!nope
>>727838368Humans are inherently incentive driven. Be it good or evil, they chase what will give them more like any wild animal. It's just the world is a lot more peaceful and "perfect" in terms of what happens to you in your life, so those urges just lead to a sea of problems
>>727838438I'm sorry, nah, maybe that would have flown back during the height of the BLM riots. But in the big 2025? No, I can't take any of that whining seriously. Unironically, the only group that has shown they aren't absolutely unhinged and vile are the exact "I like immigration because of taco trucks :D" centrists that polemic is meant to attack.
>>727830284>>727830783>niggers have no clue what "left" and "right" actually meansHeres a tip, its not about gays.
>>727837318Yahweh is a false god, and Lord Moloch is the god that humanity really wanted all along: a howling, snarling, cackling embodiment of insanity, spite, malice, cruelty, hatred, more insanity, and sadism. Lord Moloch reflects humanity's true desire: to turn this world into the biggest torture chamber ever, for no real reason except "BECAUSE!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!"
>>727800208Athenians getting mogged for their arrogance is some giga scale poetic justice. Also funny how they don't really talk about it these days.>be a maritime mercantile empire>extremely proud of muh democracy, see everyone else as backwards mongrels>win by the skin of your teeth against the Evil Empire (Persians) by allying with a military autocracy (Sparta) who provide the muscle>get so high up your own ass you think you've reached the end of history>immediately start picking a fight with Sparta and its allies>bully, threaten and invade neutral countries, genocide them if they resist (Siege of Melos), pretty much all of the Ancient world unites against you but you don't care because muh democracy>all the while fighting Sparta also invade Sicily because fuck yeah we're the Athenians, we can do anything>get bogged down and assblasted in Sicily>eventually Spartans grind you down while all those neutral countries you vassalized are causing endless trouble>appoint an arrogant retard to lead your invincible fleet>he gets baited and defeated by the inferior Spartan navy>challenge Spartan navy again>they totally annihilate your fleet, lay siege to Athens>surrender, Spartans demolish the city walls, destroy the remnants of your navy and abolish your muh democracy>the small nations you slapped around for fun demand Athens be destroyed and all citizens enslaved but the evil backward brute Spartans spare you for having been their ally in the past>much later the Romans carefully study your antics specifically to avoid making the same mistakes
>>727838803We're all equally inferior to Lord Moloch. We're all just meat for Him to greedily devour. We're all guilty of the sin of existing in His world without His permission. Accept this, and willingly debase yourself for the only god.
>>727838835"Humanity is inherently evil and thus needs a hierarchy and traditions to keep them in line" has been one of the primary secular justifications for reactionary thought for centuries now.
>>727839002Humanity is inherently evil and should just embrace it. We must all aspire to become as cruel and malicious and spiteful and hollow as Lord Moloch Himself. Only then will He tolerate our existence in His world. Goodness offends Him like a powerful stench, and must be stamped out.
>>727794580>Why is this trope so common in vidya?Instead of wasting time shitposting on /v/ try to read about humanity's history.
>>727838913Could be worse, they could've been thebes
>>727839002>secular justifications>posts abrahamic drivel
>>727794580Because video game writers are hacks and can barely even reach the lowest hanging fruits
>>727839123Thomas Hobbes you fucking retard.
>>727839046hows that working out for you in particular?
Remember guysB Positive
>>727839097The whole Greek world was a mess, it's funny how Sparta and Athens eventually allied again, against Thebes which was going apeshit.
>>727795273Because Arabs don’t give a shit, so they can’t really shame themAmericans get shamed because Christianity teaches you to be a cuck
>>727839242And then there was the whole thing with MacedoniaAlso, i gotta say, every time i hear about the Thespians they're fighting to the last fucking man so what the hell is up with them? Why were they made of iron?
>>727839179Pretty good, seeing as the world is finally embracing Lord Moloch's teachings. This world was only ever meant to be a playground for sadists. Everything makes much more sense when you understand that.
>>727839171I dont care that some nigger (worse actually, an englishman) repeated some concept that existed in the collective consciousness via a dunecoon faith.And once again. This has nothing to do with the real meaning of "left" and "right".
>>727839002>hierarchy and traditionsHierarchy and traditions are what led to establishment of law.Customary tribal laws led eventually led to codified law. Every society since the dawn of humanity was organized through traditional customs that evolved into laws.Concept of original sin comes from Old Testament. Do you think humans didn't form societies prior to that?>>727839171Hobbes described the phenomenon and coined the term "social contract". It has always existed since dawn of time.
>>727839361Then you are fucking retarded, because Hobbes has served as one of the foundations for right wing and reactionary thought for centuries. Also, you are retarded because the Church fucking hated Hobbes for making a secular justification for leadership instead of divine right. He represents *the* secular basis of the right for most of modern history.
Christ cucks, help me out.If God is all knowing and all perfect, why did he have to flood the world & also change his mind on people eating animals? I also don't really understand why Christ fellas aren't allowed to watch porn, or have sex with other women, even if the wife is okay with it.
>>727796091Its simple anon, when you tell someone they can't have something, they want it even if they didn't want it before.Its an ego thing
>>727794745Some (((humans))) are, I agree.
>>727839558Maybe read the bible one day.
>>727839572This can lead to shit like your fetish OC being less attractive than your non fetish OC to your NSFW crowd.It is all so supply and demand based…
>>727794745>Humans are inherently evil, which is why most of our history is communal, taking care of each other, protecting your tribes, building civilization where everyone can live and not die from a lion or anything that attacked us in pre history times, and inventing things and building tools, to improve life or in the name of humanity.>B-but war>Incredible miniscule part of our history compared to everything else.
>>727839746I've got a study bible I'm going through.
>>727830593>people earning enough money to isolate themselves from the real world become deluded with feel-good politicsMany such cases.
>>727839487Yes anon, I am aware. Hobbes does NOT make a religious argument just so you understand. He makes a purely secular argument, as stated by the very first post up the chain "Humans are inherently evil". Alot of (presumably right wing) anons took issue with this even though this exact line is foundational for most non-evangelical right wing beliefs. Which is why I say the modern right is completely owned by the evangelical movement, a significant portion of right wingers in this thread eschew a foundational belief because it runs contrary to evangelical sensibilities.
>>727839558the flood was during a time when god was alledgedly taking a direct appraoch to guiding his creation - he doesnt do that now because now it's all about faitheating animals is a result of leaving eden, where everything was provided - now it's a matter of survivalporn just has a tendency to lead to sexual depravity, which would be bad for the family in general - there is probably no one on this planet that can watch porn and still adequately love his wife in the ways she wants to be lovedi dont think the bible ever said you cant have extra marital affairs but it did talk against coveting another man's wife which would include lying with her and i dont think it said polygamy is not allowed
>>727839850or they take offense to the implication that they harm others, which is what evil means, when being full of sin can be purely individual harm to themselves that they need to fix
>>727839785This, people who tend to focus on muh war le suffering, pain, slavery, while ignoring everything good we did are the biggest midwits.
>>727838297Yes the people getting raped will tell you they've voted to have as many rapists around them as possible
>>727839812Fuck that, just read it.Don't let anyone interpret it before you read it.
>>727839785dont forget: women have aborted a billion times more children than wars have killed people across the entirety of human history
>>727839558> I also don't really understand why Christ fellas aren't allowed to watch porn, or have sex with other women, even if the wife is okay with it.Because it's bad for the society.In the end this is what every ancient religion rules are all about. This is why the monogamist marriage was invented.
>>727839959>eating animals is a result of leaving eden, where everything was provided - now it's a matter of survivalbut how? he gave us plants for survival, and we still have them. we actually have to grow even more plants to feed animals we brutally slaughter.
>>727839968Broadly speaking sins impose harm onto others, most people understand sin quite simply as "evil acts". Hell, one of the most recent posts argued precisely that one of those private "only harms you" sins of watching porn also has a reverberation onto society which is why it must be managed. Saying "Humanity is inherently evil" is essentially the same as "Humanity is inherently sinful", I do believe the distinction you touch on exists, but it's not a distinction a majority of people make. Really the main reason saying "Humanity is inherently evil" pricks at evangelical sensibilities is that evangelicals have a very idiosyncratic belief that "Humanity is GOOD" but that "Humanity is also sinful" and then Jesus is required to remove that sinful nature so they can return to their perfection. But "Humanity is inherently evil" isn't a belief that would prick at most non-evangelical right wingers.
>>727840325it's stated in the bible, and you should remember this since youre reading it (paraphrasing) "everything was put on this earth for man's benefit"if you want to be vegan that's up to you but you should know that there there is empiric evidence youll live a miserable life because vegetables cannot produce the same kind of nutrition that meat canfurthermore the caloric value of vegetables is so miniscule that youd have to be eating them non-stop all day in order to hit your recommend daily intakeever wonder why cows have 8 stomaches? its because it's the only way they can survive off of grass - it's indigetible otherwise
>>727840525>Broadly speaking sins impose harm onto othersWrong. Stopped reading here. There're plenty of ways to sin in a way that only harms yourself.
>>727840581harming yourself both physically and emotional (nursing delusions) harms those around you psychologicallyyou are alive therefore you are a part of this worldpretending your existence doesnt inherently affect those around you is delusional
>>727840565chill li bro, i'll always be able to outlift you in any exercise.>8 stomachsthey have 1
>>727840565>>727840706Cows have 4 stomach chambers you neanderthals
>>727840768>>727840706it's ten by my count now>>727840706also im not impressed by what you can lift because im resonably confident i can drop your corpse into the dirt with one punch
>>727840581There is an anon in this thread that specifically argued that watching porn is harmful to the social fabric of society instead of resting on a "it just harms yourself". Understanding most sin as "evil acts which harm others" is so common that lil Jeezy literally summed up half of the Commandments as "do unto others as you would have done to you". And even for the sins that are truly purely self harmful, evangelicals will still try to conflate atheists with "destructive heathens that want to demolish our social fabric
>>727840853i guess it depends how watching porn influences a person's worldview after having viewed it once or over any given period of timeid say paying for it is the line that should not be crossed because paying for it promotes itviewing it alone has its own negative outcomes but far less than encouraging more people to produce or participate in it
>>727840525>your jerking off to inflation porn is making you an asocial weirdo that nobody wants around and undermining your chances at having a strong and productive family, you need to get that in check vs>you murdered 2 people, tortured one to death with a screwdriver just becauseI'm not even saying evangelicals and their fucked up morality isn't a problem, they are extremely fucking stupidbut that doesn't make the two statements even remotely even when sin can be incredibly mild while evil has a very high minimum bar
>>727794845*tips fedora*
>>727841072>you murdered 2 people, tortured one to death with a screwdriver just becauseNigga this is not the minimum bar for evil. You have like the most insane wacky bar for evil I have ever SEEN. This entire argument is it's own thing because like you know there is a popular moral framework that posits "lying even to protect someone" is evil, but this isn't particularly relevant because to most people they will conflate "evil" with "sinful". I did say this distinction can exist earlier on, it's just not one that people will make. I'm not even sure how we got to this point, but evangelical morality is at least pretty salient to my point because the whole argument is that the right has become completely buckbroken by evangelicals and now often accept their axioms while eschewing many of their own foundations, like Hobbes.
>>727841390>Nigga this is not the minimum bar for evilno shit nigga its an example but to be classified as evil means doing shit that is severely harmful to someone else for terrible reasons and having little remorse while doing it
