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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3932540

DISCUSS FELLOW SHITEATERS
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Haven't been following, still no swords?
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>>739338147
no LOL
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cringe viral marketing
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>>739338062
>Obsessive Rituals now grants 50% less Armour and Evasion Rating (previously 35% less).
Just daft
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>>739338062
i wish this game was good
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>>739338062
BIG
STINK
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>>739338062
I aint readin all that, someone tell me what to think about this.
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>>739343337
Still have to wait for it to surpass the first game
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Someone explain to me how this game manages to be 130 fucking gigs

it's like 3 hours long
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>>739344975
Didn't realize how much better the first game was until I tried a random build without a guide and it didn't take 500+ hours of tinkering for it to work
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>leech nerfed
Hahahaha
They really want melee to suffer huh?
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>>739346403
>leech in general nerfed
>classes with leech in their ascendancy buffed
>the only classes with leech in their ascendancy are ranged
>Bloodmage specifically goes out of it's way to explain that the leech buff only applies to magic
Wow...

Why does Troonathan hate melee???
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Chrono lost some synergy but the change to skill speed instead of cast speed on Sands of Time, plus the new notables, is gonna make it a very popular and good ascendency.
Shield wall nerf is fucking retarded however. Infernal Legion also got triple tapped
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>Warriors main leveling skill damage nerfed by 30% and still has a flat skill timer on it so it can never scale well
>Warriors only end game skill also nerfed
Jesus.
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>>739346701
hey at least they took .5 seconds off the animation of rolling smash :)))) (as well as a 30% nerf)
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>>739346676
>>739346701
Just noticed the Shield Wall nerf.

No idea what I'm gonna play now. I still want to be melee. But I swear they keep fucking melee over.
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>>739346761
poo2 will fix melee btw (two more leagues trust the vision)
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poe died with 3.13
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more like Path of Stopplayingwarrior lmoa
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>>739346516
>>739346701
>>739347028
>Hello im johnathan game director for path of exile 2, thank you for buying a free game
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>>739346516
>Why does Troonathan hate melee???
Because he got bullied by a Chad as a kid. So he hates everything that reminds him of Chad and Masculinity.
And now Warriors keep calling him Troonathan. It's a neverending cycle.
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The game isn't even out yet?
And it's free
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I am going to play hollow palm hollow form MA with siphoning strike, it might be retarded
just need to figure out how im going to shock everything
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path of kino 2 won
poopjeet spammers buckbroken
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>>739347581
december it will have it's "full" release, will it be finished by then? no
but it will be free, so they can have another launch and milk retards for their money again
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Free weekend status????
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>>739345872
because PoE2 actually focused on graphics instead of having a game that looks like low-rez mud.
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Tencent shill thread
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More like Poop of Excrement 2
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afraid so
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>>739338062
POOP
DEL
EXCREMENTE
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you're enjoying the vision right poe1chuds?
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>>739350891
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>>739338165
Diablo 4 won
Blizzard won
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>looking through anything related to my old builds whether it's leveling or endgame
>main leveling skill nerfed
>main survivability stat nerfed
>main endgame skill nerfed
What the fuck do I do now?
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>>739351483
you roll a dex character like joooonathooon intended
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last time i played I got to maps and only had like 5 support gems, couldn't do anything interesting much less experiment at all. Looked it up online and this is an extremely common problem the company refuses to fix.

fuck you, i am NOT buying currency /skill gems online kill yourselves.
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What's the point of even putting melee in the game if they're just going to force it to be shit?
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I played for 300 hours when poe2 came out and every single time I've tried playing it again it really feels like one of the most boring games I've ever played. Like, everything is made around the concept of being as boring as possible.
I might give it a final try in two years or so, but I'm not really looking forward to it.
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>>739351483
Feel the weight (of Ranged, not melee)
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>>739351693
correct
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>>739346676
yeah I saw all the chrono changes and was dreading how they were going to rework the speed node then was happy to see the change to make it skills instead of just spells.
I might actually make another chrono but use a martial staff or something.
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>>739349193
Is there really none for this patch? Are they that worried about turning people off buying it?
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>>739351693
>it really feels like one of the most boring games I've ever played
>I played for 300 hours
Amazing how often you read shit like this on 4chan.
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>>739351963
I don't understand why people are like this. If a game bores me I put it away after a couple of hours at the most, annoying long intros in movie games notwithstanding.
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>>739338062
>no templar
>templar was supposed to be in the patch that druid was originally slated to release in before they delayed its release for like 5 months even though they said they only needed like 4-6 more weeks to finish it
>don't even get s-words as a silver lining
>actually don't get anything at all
>except end game "fixes" that don't mean shit because more than half of the content is still missing
alright cool
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>>739351963
To be fair PoE II is incredibly drawn out
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>>739351963
300 hours for an arpg is nothing.
Especially for this idiotic game where everything needs hours upon hours of leveling and farming just to make a basic build work.
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erm you didnt play the required 500 hours before passing your judgment on the game
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>no new melee
i sleep
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>>739349319
>because PoE2 actually focused on graphics
Yeah graphics that nobody can see because the game is so zoomed out and the screen is filled with ridiculous particle effects, great, wonderful.
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>>739353167
retard
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>>739352636
>no new melee
>current melee nerfed
heh, nothing personel, kid
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>>739353236
lmao looks like a ps3 game anyway
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All this content and fuck all to use with same Blue HP classes. Whoever responsible for the balance is a brain dead retard there is no excuse at this point
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>>739338062
There's so many stupid keywords for every specific case in this game, it's ridiculous
PoE1 patch notes were way easier to parse than this

>The Aztiri's Acuity Unique Gloves have been reworked. They now grant 150-200% increased Armour, +100-150 to maximum Life, Leech 10% of Physical Attack Damage as Life, and 10% of Physical damage dealt by your Hits causes Blood Loss and Vaal Pact. They also grant the Herald of the Royal Queen Skill. Vaal Cultivation Orb outcomes on Atziri's Acuity have also changed. Existing items are not affected by this change.

>Updated the name of the buff that Trinity grants to Affinity (as Resonance is the name of a Keystone passive skill). This is purely a description update.

>Minions affected by Last Gasp Support or Tecrod's Revenge Lineage Support and Totems affected by the Unnamed Heartwood Oracle Notable Passive Skill can no longer die during the effect from taking further damage exceeding their Maximum Life.
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is the first game still up? i kinda crave it but maybe i just download torchlight.
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>>739354352
still up and thriving, they haven't killed or put it in maint mode (yet)

(offline poe1 wen)
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>>739338062
I don't wanna do Act 3, maps are too long
Not enough support gems drops, you can't have fun at all during leveling
Shields are still too powerful.
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>>739346676
I dunno I really enjoyed my ChronoCurse build where I was just clearing screens with doedre's undoing and impending doom
It was very thematic and cool although not very top end, oh well
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nothing at all is fun to play in poo2, you have to jump through 500 different hoops for anything to feel good.
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>"It is no longer possible to prevent a room being deleted from the temple. Rooms that must be deleted, but have other connections, will be turned into simple Path rooms. This prevents the "snake" strategy."
Temple infinite currency cheese got crushed. Now the only reason to do Temple is to beat Atziris well formed ass cheeks.
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>>739354513
they made it easier.. you have uhhh... trails you can follow now..
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>>739346701
can warrior swing his weapon while walking yet? yet to see a reason for why melee was such complete dogshit on early release
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>>739355667
>can warrior swing his weapon while walking yet?
That would make the melee feel like shit because half your swings would miss everytime you walk backwards or sideways. The reason why warrior always makes a small dash forward when swinging is so the melee strikes actually land on a moving target.
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>>739356032
>game auto-aims for you, be grateful
Fuck that, I want to do it myself.
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>>739355586
you dont have to do a lever animation in act 3 anymore so theres that
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>>739356173
>>739355586
jonathan would literally add in sprint, bird trails, leverless pads instead of just adding in a fucking skip after youve done it once
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I wanted the campaign to be slower.
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>>739356083
>Fuck that, I want to do it myself.
So play with the WASD controls and warrior dashes where your mouse cursor is.
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>>739353167
But it does look really good. I couldn't play PoE1 because something about the way everything in the game looks annoyed me. That, and an atrocious balancing.
Now it's only atrocious balancing, so I can't play PoE2 either.
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>>739351963
I wasn't (that) bored for 300 hours because it was a new game. I was bored afterwards, when I had to go through the campaign again. And I've gone through the poe1 campaign hundreds of times, never got bored.
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>>739353167
>because the game is so zoomed out
So zoom in with your mouse scroll. Dumbass.
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>>739356832
Would.
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cringe
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should i boughted diablo 4 with the dlc instead?
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>>739356969
D4 is brain dead. It's fun, but... no thought required.
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>>739356969
to play right now? play d4

poe2 will be free in december with more content (maybe)
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>>739357041
>>739357045
thanks
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>>739338062
No swords
No content
No endgame
No fun
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>>739356832
where she poop
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>>739356779
>But it does look really good
Realismslop will never ever look good.
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>Warrior Rolling Slam + Boneshatter basic bitch combo damage nerfed.
Speedrunners ruin everything.
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can i play this for free already or is it still in this retarded paid early access scam?
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luv d2
luv poe1
'ate poo2
simple as
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>>739356032
how would it make his melee feel bad every other class can move while using a basic attack other arpgs allow moving while using regular attacks there's legit no reason warrior can't do it
>still have to kite dodge and use abilities
>but the skill you're incentivized to use doesn't lock you in place like a fucking npc all the time
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>>739357927
>every other class can move while using a basic attack
Ranged basic attacks get a movement penalty so its ironically riskier than the melee attack that has a built-in tiny dash forward.
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>Azmeri Spirits that are released from monsters now retain their power and empower other spirits released from the monster.
Make rippy unrewarding spirits even rippier, what could go wrong.
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>>739351483
>>739357438
>Attack speed has been sped up by half a second
>Attack damage has been slightly reduced
>Armour has been increased by 30–15%
You people are stupid if you really think that’s a nerf. I bet this will be the easiest league for melee, given all the new runes, crafting and items.
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>>739358427
>Attack speed has been sped up by half a second
They slowed down Boneshatter animation, so now the combo finisher is slower.
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>>739358460
Anon, they’ve reduced the attack speed increase from the gem’s quality by 10%, you won’t notice it if you’re using it as part of a combo. It’s a targeted nerf aimed at players who stacked attack speed and used Boneshatter as a movement skill.
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>>739358460
>They slowed down Boneshatter animation
I can't see it in patchnotes, where should I look for it?
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>>739358610
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>>739358631
> Gem Quality
Anon...
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>>739358586
Yeah like I said, stupid speedrunners ruin everything.
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>>739346761
>melee
wait until you realize there is no such thing and every ability in the game is a spell
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>>739358681
Have you ever seen a speedrunner wasting a gemcutter on the Boneshatter?
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>>739358760
>Have you ever seen a speedrunner
No.
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>>739346761
>Shield Wall nerf
Anon. Shields get 30-15% more defence, which means more damage
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>>739338062
>patch 0.5

How long is this piece of shit going to be in paid-alpha? I thought it was supposed to be free to play.
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>>739358894
Release in December
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>>739358894
the game doesnt even have SWORDS yet btw kek
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When was the last time you were actually excited about getting a legendary in ARPGs
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>>739358952
still get excited when I see a ring drop in d2 or a shako. or playing a fresh SSF run and getting your first vmagi.
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>>739358952
Poe doesn't even have legendary items you stupid frog
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how many games have been ruined by developer ego? poe2 could've been so good without that retard jonathan at the helm
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reckon it'll b good?
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So once this game finally releases how fucked will it be? Or is it going to do a reset? Will a new player be absolutely fucked by the economy?
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>>739338062
I'm not paying for the early access of a f2p game
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>>739359056
i dont know what you mean
yes
no
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>>739359056
The economy resets with every update you stupid tourist. Even the standard league will be split into EA characters and post-release ones.
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>>739338147
>>739338165
I remeber before the game launched or even before we really had any information regarding poe2, some guy (maybe it was a streamer or a reddit guy) said "I predict there will be swords in the game" in jest, like it's obvious an action game would have swords. Little did he know that he would be wrong for a whole fucking year (it's almost 2 years now KEK)
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Why the fuck do they want to make a psuedo soulslike arpg... Then absolutely punish melee? I wanted to make a melee sorc for sekhema asala cosplay but it just feels so fucking miserable compared to pure magic builds.
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>>739359056
>Or is it going to do a reset?
Economy resets every single League. So next economy reset is week from now. Your old characters go to Standard League where economy is always fucked.
Nobody knows what the economy will be like in the endgame because the changes are too massive. Current Leagues cheese farming strat got completely nerfed for the next League.
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>>739359104
>you stupid tourist
Nigger you are playing an EA game, do you expect every retard to eat shit like you from day 1?
>>739359184
Yea I wasnt talking about leagues but the base game. Guess ill skip this one then, I dont care for seasonal games
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>>739359056
As much as the new game directors suck compared to /ourguy/ Chris Wilson, they aren't retarded enough not to reset the economy every few months like it has been doing for a decade or so now
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>>739359250
>Nigger you are playing an EA game, do you expect every retard to eat shit like you from day 1?
brudda this aint the first seasonal game and this isn't even the first seasonal game from this dev
it functions identically to literally every other seasonal arpg
including poe1
for years
decades if you count d2 ladders
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>>739359250
Anon, this kind of economic reset every league/season has been a feature of the ARPG genre since Diablo 2.
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>>739359154
>I wanted to make a melee sorc for sekhema asala cosplay but it just feels so fucking miserable compared to pure magic builds.
Just put a quarterstaff on your sorc, its not like the Ascendancies force you to use Staff. Figure out Stormweaver fem-monk build with sorceress. Either that or have Huntress wear sorc net socks instead.
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>>739338062
>Smith bear wasn't nerfed

nice, I get a great lore relevant starter
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>>739359250
>I dont care for seasonal games
Nothing stops you from just playing Standard League. Only downside is you don't get to test the new League mechanic, you get to play it with a one League delay.
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>>739359315
>>739359334
Hence the question if this game functioned the same way, I like ARPGs but I occasionally like a season here or there. I'm going to be playing the normal base game most of the time. Blindly expecting certain features just leads to disappointment or rage. See how this game doesn't even have swords, can you imagine being a swordfag and assuming an ARPG would have swords?
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>>739338062
>6 months to just add shit from the first game in
I don't understand the poe devs, they seem to have literally only one solution to balance/gameplay problems and that's to add more currencies/pointless talent trees, like how and why?
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>>739359250
shameless asinine tourist
stop fucking arguing if you don't know jackshit about the thing you're arguing about
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>>739359495
>Crying about tourists in an early access game
Brain damage
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>>739359472
>I'm going to be playing the normal base game most of the time.
New League is the base game but new optional sidequest attached that people get to test out and give feedback about it. If you don't like the new League mechanic simply skip the encounters. League starts are the best chance for anyone to get good trade deals because everyone starts from scratch.
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>>739359472
>swordfag
I don’t understand this autistic behaviour. In almost all ARPGs swords are just stats sticks with nothing interesting to set them apart from other types of weapon. You guys would literally be happy if they added “sword” that uses mace and quarterstaff skills.
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>>739359565
>League starts are the best chance for anyone to get good trade deals because everyone starts from scratch.
Conversely, the longer a league's been out the more items are on the market. High end items will cost multiple mirrors because of all the inflation, but on the low end you can get some amazing stuff for 1/2ex compared to what's being sold for 1/2ex on launch weekend.
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>>739359634
You seem to have completely missed the point about expectations and assumptions. You also mistakenly believe I am a sword autist. I'm going to dip now, this whole thread is weirdly hostile
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>>739359694
Probably because you're an idiot.
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>>739359686
>the longer a league's been out the more items are on the market.
Which means the value of items is basically nothing, which means new players will never get ahead in the economy and will never trade any item for more than 1 Identify scroll.
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>>739359763
who the fuck trades ID scrolls even at league start lmfao
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Tempest bells AND ice strike bufffed? its time
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>>739338062
shitposting aside, why is it so difficult to add different weapons to the game? also why they went for quarterstaff monk when we had fist weapons in the first game?
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>>739359634
Swords are the normalfag option. That's why any time a WRPG releases stats, 90% of players rolled human male sword and board Paladin. There's a massive amount of NPCs out there that only like vanilla ice cream, warm Budweiser and well-done steak. If they can't play swords they're going to get upset.

>>739359763
Be real, you're not going to get ahead in the economy anyway when you're competing with autists playing twenty hours a day, Chinese RMT bots and Discord market cabals hoarding the good exploits to themselves. Nothing beyond beating pinnacles interests me, but yes I agree you'll never get ahead of the game in standard league if that's what you want from the game.
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>played choronomancer on release because I thought it was cool
>underwhelming
>read patch notes
>just some numbers changes here and there
man there goes my time wizard fantasy guess I'll go back to a dex class
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Is it still Path of Energy shield 2 or are other defense stats worth a damn yet?
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>>739359871
>why is it so difficult to add different weapons to the game?
Lots of animations and balancing.
>we had fist weapons in the first game
I think you're getting something mixed up, because Poe 1 had only one unique meme item that allowed unarmed builds and it's been unplayable for years now. It’s a bit dishonest to compare it to quarterstaffs.
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>>739359043
It has no +lvls or additional proj so we'll see
At best, this'll be a weapon swap item where you stack it's buff before running into a boss arena/during immunity phases
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>>739359878
>Be real, you're not going to get ahead in the economy anyway
First 24 hours you can easily sell something for good value. Its just because the autists stay up 30 hours without sleeping to get ahead during first day is why you fall behind.
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>>739359871
>also why they went for quarterstaff monk when we had fist weapons in the first game?
Next League gets new unique gloves that turn your mace attacks into Unarmed attacks. With a system which levels up the gloves if you kill bosses with your fists:

https://youtu.be/e2QZNDtJhoM?si=RAqzN3SAWqErPxhM
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>>739359634
The issue with maces is that GGG believes they should be extremely slow with half of their skills, with a lot of their power budget going into stunning monsters
Swords, like quarterstaves should not have this drawback
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>>739360059
thanks but it's definitely not even close to what I want, I just hope they don't butcher duelist and shadow when they release. meanwhile I'll keep playing sorc
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>>739360078
Swords are going to focus on Bleed gimmicks 100%. The real question is what the theme or gimmick of Axes is going to be.
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>Int minions got raped so hard Kripp is going companions instead
WTF did they DO?
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>>739359871
They decided that skills should be mostly locked to weapon types, so instead of "add swords" it's "add swords and like a dozen new sword-exclusive skills". Also I'm pretty sure they want to have a sword class to go with it, which means now we're up to "add swords and like a dozen new sword-exclusive skills and the Duelist class and two ascendancies for him and rework the Duelist section of the tree so sword passives exist". And then there's uniques.
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>>739359878
>Swords are the normalfag option
I was going to argue but you're right. True path of execrement tards are so miserable, autistic and focused on giant screen killing explosions of damage that they would never care about swords or the power fantasy they create.

On that note this is one of the least miserable PoE threads I've ever seen, you guys must be hyped.
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>>739351963
It's the equivalent of doomscrolling.
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>>739360191
There are no weapon specific classes. Strongest build are Warrior Crossbow builds. They want you to use 2 weapons instead of just 1 and combo 2 simple basic combos together from two different weapon skill trees.
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>>739360146
Axes will have bleed, rage and a mix of melee and ranged attacks
Swords will have elemental attacks and AoE
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>>739360270
>Swords will have elemental attacks and AoE
Nah, Sword passives are at the bottom at the passive tree, right next to Huntress and Warrior. So its going to be Bleed something for sure. Maybe two handed swords can parry as well.
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>>739360235
But swords have always been the ultimate one button screen-explosion slop. People seem to harbour some hope that swords will magically be vastly different from maces, but I’m afraid I’ll have to disappoint you, they’re barely any faster.
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>>739360059
>1 armor per strength
lol
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>>739360331
There are already item bases and some skills listed on POEDB, and axes have bleed
Swords will probably get impale
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>>739360446
Good point, forgot about Impale being a thing. Weird how spears didn't get much built-in Impale.
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>oil barrage, rend and pounce
no...
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>Witchhunter
>Obsessive Rituals now grants 50% less Armour and Evasion Rating (previously 35% less).
Fugg
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>>739360537
Impale doesn't really work well with spears gameplay-wise.
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>>739360269
I know how the game works, but that's how GGG is designing it. They want every class to have thematic weapons and they're not going to release a new character class without its weapon type or vice versa.
>(0.2) huntress = spear/buckler
>(0.4) druid = talisman
>duelist = sword
>marauder = axe
>shadow = dagger/trap
>templar = flail
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>>739360656
Armour and EV have been increased by 30% across the board
>>739360683
These are claws which are now purely DEX weapons.
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>>739360683
>4 classes still remaining
we're really going into 1.0 a year and a half from now on and still not have all classes aren't we?
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>>739360668
Yeah but it would fit the theme of spears as a weapon class.
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>>739360758
They said they were willing to release 1.0 without all the classes. We definitely won’t be getting Shadow in 1.0, Templar is highly unlikely, and the other two are highly probable
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>>739360758
6 months is a long time and we've already seen Act 5 footage years ago. So when all the visual and audio assets are done, its all just about balancing shit correctly. Jonathan x Chris interview Jonnie already leaked out that the planning and concept art phase is already designing 1.2 of the game. So they're having a classic Disney studios type of pipeline going.
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>Path of Execrement
Why is Anon describing his life's story?
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>>739359979
>balancing
Game isn't balanced at all. It never was, and it never will be.
>unarmed
Not the same as claws.
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>>739361071
Claws in Poe 1 are just daggers reskin
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>>739361136
Ok and? I don't know how unarmed is related to claws or daggers at all
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>>739338062
this is going to kill d4
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>>739360758
They're getting memed on pretty hard for the sword thing. My bet is that Duelist (and only Duelist) will be in for 1.0.
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>>739360270
>Swords will have elemental attacks and AoE
its a sword. its not magic. why
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>>739361236
All skills in PoE are magic
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lmao they didn't nerf mana stacking?

Unserious company
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>>739361564
I just want hit things with metal stick...
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>>739355667
They showed off a Flail in some trailer released 1-2 years ago that showed that you could walk in any direction and swing it at the same time.

I have no fucking clue why they haven't actually gotten around to making any more melee weapons for EA since they more or less confirmed that this next update will be the last (baring hotfixes) until release, which most likely won't be until the middle of next year with the pace they are currently working at.
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>>739361582
mage game
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>>739361594
Technically 3 shapeshift forms all brought new melee skills. Even the wyvern where Alkaizer was abusing the cleave attack.
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>>739361236
Poe devs are allergic to physical-only builds.
Especially in poe2 since brutality support is a fucking meme
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>>739361680
>Poe devs are allergic to physical-only builds.
Tell that to the Bleed huntress.
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>>739361586
I don't want to hit things with metal stick until holy skills are in.
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Can the monk be an actual martial artist fantasy and be unarmed yet?
If not, I shan't play
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>>739361787
yes
but actually no
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>>739361787
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>>739361675
>A weapon type that only 1 class can use effectively since using transformations without building around them makes them complete dogshit and trying to reach them as ANY other class is a complete waste of point.

Cool if you like the Druid, it fucking sucks if you want to actually play any other type of melee since we've literally only had mace for 2 fucking years now. Arguably you can abuse Gemling to get something functional with spears but again, that literally only leaves 2 weapon options for melee.
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>>739347902
cast on crit thunderstorm with shock conduction 2 or orb of storms
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poe2 is good, but it needs a campaign skip
I'm simply not going to play it more than once a year for a couple weeks if there isn't a way to skip the fucking campaign
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someone give me a good+fun controller build please, I have painful carpal tunnel from 20 years of gookclick and literally functionally cannot WASD in this game how it demands
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>>739361787
>Can the monk be an actual martial artist fantasy
An ascendancy literally called "martial artist" is coming this patch
>and be unarmed yet?
hollow palm has been a thing for a couple of months and they're adding more shit for unarmed in 0.5
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>>739338062
>ctfl+f
>"We unfucked performance"
>0 results
shan't be playan
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>haven't played since first patch of poe2
>look up random video
>game is just this now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZgxyp1-qUs

just auto firing screen clearing whatever
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>>739359878
>If they can't play swords they're going to get upset.
Axes, daggers, flails, two handed polearms. Where are they? The game only has three types of melee weapons. Four if you count shapeshifting.

I don't care solely about swords; I want the full armory.
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Twice I've played and twice I've got filtered as soon as I got to Ngakanu. My build would be going along ok and then literally the fucking first enemy kills me instantly.
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>>739362292
your performative outrage is tiresome and no longer convinces anybody
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>>739362126
>here's your slowed down skill based game, bro.
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>>739362125
they did a little the last patch. problem is server load times
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>>739362337
sounds like a common issue in the campaign where you are being carried by 1 or 2 decent items, but your defenses get 'checked' finally and everything falls apart
you need to be incremental in your approach to gearing and be constantly updating your stuff or that's what happens unless you are playing a legit broken leveling build
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>>739361853
>A weapon type that only 1 class can use effectively
The fuck are you on about? Strongest werewolf build is Werewolf Monk, not Werewolf Druid.
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>>739362398
you also have a problem with the game taking 10 years to load?
I don't know what their fucking problem is with shaders. Just let the players precache shaders in the menu, WHY THE FUCK ARE WE LOADING SHADERS ON THE FLY
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>>739362512
yeah it do be like that
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>>739362348
Performative outrage? There's no performative outrage from me though.
And I don't have to convince anyone. The facts are plain as day:
it's been almost two years and they've only added two new melee weapons.
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>>739362557
>pretending to care
you will play anyways
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>>739362337
>My build would be going along ok and then literally the fucking first enemy kills me instantly.
You need more max life or ES in your gear. Remember the most important stats in your armor is Max Life and Resistances. Bigger your health bar is the tankier you are. Same basic rule applies to Souls games too where putting points in Vigor makes the game exponentially easier.
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>>739362587
When they release the weapons and the skills tied to them I will. Until then I'll continue being as autistic as you.
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>>739361732
I only play manly melee builds idc
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>>739362337
That's just cuz Ngakanu hits you with chaos/corrupted blood
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>>739362406
Care to explain? Does it scale with some unarmed stuff or something?
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>>739362927
https://youtu.be/4t4kp8YiJTg?si=uqa40duIpRaUz_Wa
Monk has the Avatar Last Airbender ascendancy that gives bonuses to all but fire damage.
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God damn it I was interested in the stag stampede but ruetoo is league starting it, now it'll be pre-nerfed with terrible gear economy
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>>739362861
Well I don't like it.
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>>739362679
you will play anyways, see you on the 29th
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>>739362974
I stand corrected, cool.
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>>739362974
>werewolf delete- no the ice spells delete
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>>739359184
this cinematic is making me angry, they are trying to use your biological instincts to make money from you. Reject this scamming technique.
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it's ridiculous that a mage is a better tank than warrior
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>playing yet another patch instead of just waiting 6 months to play the full campaign

you have to be a bit dumb not to simply wait a tad more
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>>739363316
>6 months
Lol.
Lmao.
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so what are some strong build archetypes now? is melee still in the gutter? is ice monk is back?
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>>739362974
>every class does druid theme skills better than any druid ascendency

kek
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>>739363316
1.0 is next year, exilecon is just date, preview and probably some new project so they can spend even less time on poe2
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>>739359557
retard
hes crying about staple mechanics, ubiqueteous in arpgs. You are a retarded tourist and you need to be euthanized for the betterment of mankind. You are just guessing reality
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>>739363316
True but Im a slut for challenge sets
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>>739363316
this patch took 6 months and it features 2 new ascendancy classes bro
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>coc untouched
>+level untouched
>rarity untouched
>mana stacking untouched
>ms on boots still not implicit

better nerf warrior lmao
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are spears and bows sitll the best after these patch notes? ( i cant read)
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>>739360716
>Armour and EV have been increased by 30% across the board
Not fugg. I would play him anyways, so happy to know.
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>>739363316
>why would you play the game now when you could play it later?
wow a riveting argument bro
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Does your character name have to be unique still? I hated that it’s impossible to use normal names.
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>>739363489
>it’s impossible to use normal names
lol
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>>739363429
actually he lied
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>>739363525
I mean just a name without having to attach random letters or numbers to make it “unique”.
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>>739363316
I want to play the game. The new update is just an excuse.
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>>739363316
yeap just another 6 months...
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>>739363542
You'll make something new and you'll like it, Kirito
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>>739363489
you can have normal names just need to set up a autoclicker and get lucky lol.
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PATH OF SLOPPY DOGSHIT
PATH OF JONATHANS SLOPPY POOPSHIT AND EXCREMENT!!!!!
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More like PooE2 amirite lol
I'll check my way out
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>>739363316
>campaign
Who gives a fuck about that, lmao?
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Uh oh ES abuser meltys
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>>739363402
yes it's surprising but I watched quin69's stream when they apparently said that it releases *this year*. I wasn't paying enough attention to hear it myself.
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>>739363649
lol you were raped
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>>739340839
me to
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>>739363810
campaign is the only reason to play an arpg as a human being. Otherwise you are just a dog led by a carrot that you will never catch. Stop seeing yourself as a debased animal please
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Crystalfall won https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4OO5-j4aRc
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>>739363814
ES is dead, long live ES
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>>739363864
I like having more than 6h of gameplay lol
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>>739363864
But I want to play with different mechanics that Poe has in the endgame
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>>739358760
>Have you ever seen a speedrunner
unfortunatly /v/ can't stfu about them at least twice a year
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>>739338062
>BFR gone
>replaced by an even worse mongoloid retard
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>>739363869
I mean- if you like it then good for you, but I don't think it's for me.
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>>739363374
They quite literally stated "this is the year PoE2 comes out"
multiple times
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>>739363976
>played the season
>oh this is the seasonal activity
>do it once
>ignore every single portal afterwards
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>>739364096
lol
lmao
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>>739364096
GGG lies a lot.
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>>739363929
Why?
If an experience is fun and satisfying for 6 hours, why should you prolong it more than it has to be?
Are you a content brained retard that just needs something to sink their time in day in day out?
Have you gotten anywhere in life by playing dozen hours of video games every single day?
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>Nerf this
>Nerf that
>Nerf here
>Nerf there
>Zero (0) buffs to actually shit skills
Why?
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>>739364096
They also said EA would last "six months to a year" back in 2024.
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>>739364171
trust the vision
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>>739364171
they dont want the game to be fun
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>>739364171
the "vision"
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>>739364171
if you aren't playing the specific builds the devs like you have too much power and must be punished
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>>739364212
definitively or in a sense that "we don't actually know, but it's what we're aiming for"?
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>>739364161
post an instance of them lying with proof
just one, not your 'opinion', post the actual evidence of a lie
convince me, here if your chance
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>>739364212
i honestly think if the community didn't cum buckets and forced them to work on poe1, poe2 right now would be in way better shape
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>>739364453
Second one
This time they’ve actually promised to release the game this year.
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>>739358427
>slightly reduced
It's been reduced by 30%.
Attack Speed on that specific skill is still speed capped. Which means you can never scale it in any meaningful way (An issue for almost all mace skills). Attack speed on that skill is almost useless. That skill was good for leveling because while it was slow and cumbersome, you'd scale it to hit hard and boneshatter explode groups. The loss of damage means you lose stun damage. The increase speed is overall useless.
You're an absolute fucking retard and have never played Warrior in any meaningful capacity if you can't understand this at all.
>but armor has been increased
Armor is dog shit. Buffing dogshit to slightly better dogshit means nothing. There is a reason why everyone goes ES you subhuman fucking tard.

>>739358843
It's a flat decrease of damage you fucking idiot. That means the scaling is now worse.
>but 30% more
ON less flat scale. Jesus Christ you people are fucking stupid. You can't even into basic math.

Either that or you're unironic shills. Fuck you.
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>>739360446
>Bleed Axe
They nerfed Bleed due to Bleed Spear being meta for all of five minutes.

Wonder if they'll make changes to Bleed by the time Axes are released.
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>>739361732
Nerfed into the ground. Blood Mage Bleed Spear was fun while it lasted.
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>>739364171
Devs really want people to play their very specific builds.

Which is the exact reason why POE 2 is getting as much hate as it is. POE1 had this too, but to a much lesser degree. You could see some insanely weird shit at end game and it was great. Now 99% of the playerbase plays the same cookiecutter builds. poeninja proves this.
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>>739364882
to be fair, people nowadays just copy the best builds too so that data is skewed
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>>739363864
>this is what snoy moviegamers actually believe
grim
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>>739362102
>an ascendency literally called martial artist
and yet there's ZERO martial arts related talents
>hollow palm
it's literally just quarterstaff monk, stop being disingenuous, you exactly what people mean when we ask for a martial artist monk
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>>739364708
I played warrior twice and you had too much stun during levelling. The first part of the rolling slam basically always stunned normal enemies even without any gem support. Brink support was basically required and it’s good that they made it available right from the start.
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>>739362292
the only melee weapon in this game is mace and certain primal skills, everything else is ranged or spells
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>1.0 release will still be missing multiple classes
a dire state of affairs
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>>739365070
>only melee weapon in this game is mace
Quarterstaves
Talismans
Spears
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>>739365013
You're right, you do have a lot of stun. But it's basically all you do have. You're still one of the worst classes (if mace). Leveling is probably the only place Warrior(mace) shines.
And now they've taken that away too.
There is a reason why people laugh at how shit melee is. And why dumb fucking memes like this;
>>739351713
keep being made all the time. And it's still fucking relevant.
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>>739365128
Shields skills are among the best ones for levelling. Overall mace skills are really solid. They’re certainly not bows, but they’re far better than most spells.
Totems are getting a nice buff in this patch too
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>>739365119
>Quarterstaff
mage in a trench suit, only melee skill is flicker
>Talisman
I literally talked about primal skills aka talismans smooth brain
>spears
whirlwind galore, also it's not a fucking spear, it's a one handed javelin and GGG isn't going to psyop me
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>>739338062
>you know what would be cool?
>putting chaos damage enemies on the first act when people don't have chaos resistance at all
bravo ggg
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>>739364882
>Now 99% of the playerbase plays the same cookiecutter builds. poeninja proves this.
To be fair, if you just look at poeninja, it's the same for POE1. Like 90% of SC player base just copies fubgun's build.

>>739365010
>and yet there's ZERO martial arts related talents
I'm not sure what exactly (you) consider a "martial arts related talent", but the skill that buffs gloves while unarmed combos pretty well with hollow palm, at least.

>you exactly what people mean when we ask for a martial artist monk
No, I fucking don't m8. You already get unarmed animations for all those skills. What else do you expect?
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>>739365275
>only melee skill is flicker
Tempest Flurry
Ice Strike
Vaulting Impact
Shattering Palm
Gathering Storm
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>>739365119
>midrange
>midrange
>midrange
try again
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>>739365318
When you see a purple flower on the ground summoned by a scrawny forest witch, you're supposed to get away from it, not sniff it.

The flower I mean, not the witch.
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>>739365389
>I want melee skills
>list melee skills
>no, I meant only "melee" skills that fit my own extremely specific definition of what melee is
How about you just fuck off?
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>>739365402
I was thinking about the blood courtesans in the final area that absolutely melt HP bars if you step your pinky in them
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since im based i prefer poe1
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>>739365336
>No, I fucking don't m8. You already get unarmed animations for all those skills. What else do you expect?
nta
basically hollow palm but with skills entirely separate from quarterstaff. like grappling, stances or getting hit in the dick with a log
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>>739365389
Play werewolf.
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>>739365606
So you want them to spend time to make a whole bunch of skills that only one build of 2 specific classes will be able to use? Sure, sounds like a legit use of dev time.
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>>739365559
Thats chaos damage? I always thought it was just physical degen.
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>>739365606
https://youtu.be/qqIOyhzG54c?si=sxknRTinGQczD5_F
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>>739365687
>So you want
yeah, otherwise i wouldnt have responded to you
>sounds like a legit use of dev time
why the fuck should this even matter to you or me? LOL
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>>739365659
nta
Is it fun? I did not try it out last season.
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>>739365336
those are still quarterstaff animations, not to mention some of them are more about shooting projectiles like glacial strike. I want a MARTIAL artist, basically a fighting game character in an arpg, also hollow palm was made to shut people up about unarmed monk without actually working on a new weapon type. all they had to do was make claws the monk weapon and build around that archetype instead, but for some reason they went for the lamest monk possible and make him a discount spellcaster
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>>739366029
Very fun. You'll notice very clear differences, especially in animation, when compared with the older melee weapons.
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>>739366029
It is if you like melee combos. In basic combo first you freeze the target with swipe attacks, then you start scratching it so tiny ice chunks come out of it, then you do the double slash jump to detonate all those chunks.
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>this thread
Just don't play melee then?
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>>739365659
werewolf druid is what every melee should be, I really hope duelist and shadow will be at least somewhat similar
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>>739351387
i dont play either of them but lets not be hasty about that one
blizzard aint winning shit
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>>739366135
>>739366140
I'll give it a shot.
Maybe build on wolf pets for packmaxxing
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>>739366247
Duelist probably gets some Parry combo skills because so far we've only seen one from Huntress.
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>>739366285
Monk is also an option, see: >>739362974
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>>739366203
Fuck you Jonatroon
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>>739363864
you're talking to mazed addicts anon. have pity
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I cant find a single hideout in this stupid atlas in standard... I only had 1 in the starting area
and yes I used over 20 grand project tablets for it
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>>739338062
I'm going to play and I'll enjoy it, like I always do, because it's a fun game.
Meanwhile you game haters will be here seething or pretending to play some unc slop.
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>>739366958
ARPGs as a whole are certified unccore
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Is this game good? I think poe2 is kinda should be most good diabloid on market? no?
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>>739367124
>Is this game good?
no
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>>739359184
Nosering queen slay
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>>739364171
Same thing has been happening with Dota 2 for at least two years now.
They are bankrupt on imagination and simply are taking what we had to later introduce it, nerfed, as content.
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D4 has swords :)
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>>739363831
>>739363649
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>>739367124
It’s still the best ARPG on the market. It’s just been in development for far too long. The main reason everyone’s complaining so much is that they’re tired of waiting for the game to be finished and go F2P.
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>>739364096
>listening to jonathans sociopath loser lies
lmaooo
gotta be even dumber than listening to trump
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>>739367379
literally has the worst combat of any modern ARPG
literally has some of the worst system design and skill design
mainly is carried by poe1
takes all the good parts of poe1 and makes them worse
is carried by art and boss fights and music like most of these games with terrible devs
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rolling for my league starter
1-3 stormweaver wyvern
4-6 amazon werewolf
7-9 grenade infernalist
0 plants and bones oracle
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>>739365265
Leveling yeah, but leveling isn't exactly that hard. End game though? lol...
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>>739367124
Yes. It is the current best one. But if you're a casual to the genre its best for you to just wait until the game is free. If you have to choose between D4 or PoE 2, you're comparing 70-150 dollar sunday drive scooter to a 30 dollar proper motorcycle.
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>>739338062
anyone wanna join my guild?
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>>739344975
>surpass the first game
lmao. even grim dawn surpassed the first game. it's a pile of shit since 3.0
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>>739367768
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>>739338062
PoE 1 still mogs 2 and it's not even funny
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>>739349319
So now it looks like high-rez mud instead. Brilliant!
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PoE 2 does not stand for path of exile 2, it actually stands for poop of excrement 2, and how poe 1 (path of exile 1) turned into poe 2 (poop of excrement 2)

Anonymous Author(s)
Affiliation not disclosed
Date: May 2026

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Abstract

The transition from Path of Exile 1 (PoE 1) to its widely anticipated sequel, colloquially termed Path of Exile 2 (PoE 2), has been framed by developers as an evolutionary leap in action role-playing game (ARPG) design. However, a rigorous longitudinal analysis of core gameplay mechanics, economic stability, and player agency reveals a different trajectory. We demonstrate that under the canonical definitions of system quality—complexity, build diversity, and reward structure—PoE 2 does not represent a continuation of the Path of Exile lineage. Instead, we provide empirical and theoretical evidence that PoE 2 is isomorphic to what we formally define as a Poop of Excrement 2 (also abbreviated PoE 2). Furthermore, we trace the metamorphosis: PoE 1, once a paragon of emergent systems, gradually transitioned into its excremental counterpart through a series of design degeneracies. Our contribution includes a quantitative Excremental Index (EI) and a phase transition model, showing that the titular identity is not a metaphor but a verifiable state change.
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>>739367657
>D4 or PoE 2, you're comparing 70-150 dollar sunday drive scooter to a 30 dollar proper motorcycle.
so diablo4 is better or what?
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>>739365592
>gets mogged by older sister
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>>739367959
>Scooter is better than Harley Davidson
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>>739368046
i dunno nothing about this im not the motoman
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>>739338062
too much
fucking
ROLLING
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>>739356241
is this what PoE fantards are like? you sound like the nu-WoW player base. your kind is what ruined that game
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>>739367972
*blows smoke on your face*
wrong
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>>739367959
>overpriced piece of shit that's not worth the money vs cheap crap that might just about do the job
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>>739367794
why not?
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>>739367436
>all the good parts of poe1
I hope you're not referencing the crafting, trading, currency bloat, power creep and general bloat which actually makes poe the worst ARPG on the market
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>>739365592
>last frame of webm
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>>739367124
>is poison good
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1.1 is going to have the biggest falloff in history when gamerdads realize they have to do the 60 hour campaign again
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>>739367545
>amazon werewolf
I will probably do this one too based on the prior posts
Anyone got a build idea?
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>>739368285
Alcohol is poison but it's good enough to be humanity's second best friend.
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>>739368285
yes? what kind of stupid question is that?
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>>739368329
Last League I did a Bleed Huntress with druids wolf pack as my Companions. Not a meta build at all, the role of the wolves was just to draw aggro and soak up damage. Beat Atziri and Xesht regardless because PoE 2 has less gear checks than PoE 1 and you can compensate for your unfinished build by just playing well enough.
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poo2 is probably the biggest waste of 30 bucks ive done. game is just worse than its predecessor in every single way other than graphics
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>>739345872
It's already confirmed it will be 250gb on launch
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>>739368516
>t. first in the queue next week.
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>>739368516
>worse than its predecessor
impossible. every time i looked at poe gameplay i couldn't help but think that its player base got brainwashed by that retarded gameplay
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>>739368329
the lunar hailstorm skill you get at the end of the werewolf tree is kind of fun if you get loads of uptime on it
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>>739368509
nta, but wolfpack is genuinely great. played poison pathfinder and used the wolves with the gem that makes them soak up 10% of my damage, as well as the one that casts a random abyss buff on me when one of them dies.
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>>739368548
nah i booted it up today to give it a shot and see if I have any love left for this genre. got bored within an hour
>>739368590
dumb nigga, endgame builds are literally the same shit in poe2. both games end up with you blowing up entire screens.
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Has Gemling been buffed yet? I played it on release before they gutted it because of all the gay stat-stickers. I want to do another mace run.
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>>739368656
>nah i booted it up today to give it a shot
No you didn't.
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>>739368710
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are there permanent skin transfers in the game yet
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>>739368734
Now show the hours.
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>>739368767
games bad
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>>739368808
>100 hours
kek see you in the next League queue!
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go the fuck back to /vg/ you smelly mutant retards
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>>739368842
nah I played on launch and then skipped leagues until the last one with Druid. I'll prob wait to try it on actual release at this right. This patch has basically nothing new looking at the notes
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the maps don't need to be that fucking big
especially when you're forced to sprint through 5 empty screens
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>>739368808
>games bad
I agree
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Why did they take everything from PoE1 but make it retarded
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>>739369123
They were inspired by you.
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>dogshit game reaches thread bump
lmfao
jonathan really has chink faggots working overtime for him
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>>739369165
Patch notes just came out along with streamer onions face reaction videos. Thats the reason.
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>>739368516
I'm currently at 200+ hours played, for just $30. Pretty good deal imo.
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it's honestly a good thing they made poe2 just so the shitter devs can avoid ruining poe1
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there is absolutely no reason for poe2 to exist
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>>739369297
The reason: it's a fun game.
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>>739369209
still literally requires hordes of chink faggots
the game is dogshit
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>>739369504
Then why do you keep playing it?
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>>739368656
>muh endgame
fucking MMO brain rotted dumbfuck
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>>739369527
I dont. I just call it dogshit on /v/, like it deserves
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>>739369653
>I dont
Stop lying. I don't like Pokemon but I don't go to Pokemon threads to post how I don't like the game.
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>>739369652
are you a retard?
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>/v/ poe thread
>it's filled with the shittiest fucking takes in existence
>somehow worse takes than even reddit
every time
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I like poe2.
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>>739356779
Sure it looks better than POE1 but if you care about graphics than nothing can beat Diablo 4 so…
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>>739363413
Every league.
Every single league they nerf warrior.
What are they smoking
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>>739369875
same, cant wait to rip another coop.
i play this shit like this its gauntlet.
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>>739360270
But spears got all the bleed stuff already.
Why do they even have to be like this. I wan to do bleed on a hammer. Internal bleeding. But no. Look at all these fancy animations we have. Oops. Now we can only afford to animate each skill for one weapon. Probably should have thought about that oh well.
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>>739369828
ARPGs bring the worse of the worse it being 4chan does not help. Also a lot of blizdrones you know the ones 40y/o clinging on to the wrath of the lich king days praying their childhood darling blizzard will return. Don't take em seriously they are fun to bait
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>>739369828
>it's filled with the shittiest fucking takes in existence
>somehow worse takes than even reddit
Literally every thread on /v/.
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>>739364937
I homebrew my builds and its shit.
I don't recommend it.
I imagine the game is probably way more fun when you're not constantly getting your balls stepped on by these cunt videogame jannie designers.
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>>739370108
Just use bleed support.
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>>739370076
What will be your first character with the update? I'm going to do a martial artist because it looks fun.
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>>739370197
Its more that many of the skills like blood hunt are restricted to spears.
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How do you take like 5 months to do a batch and do MINIMAL balance changes in a game which is super unbalanced?
Like the game got 200 skills or so, and like 90% of the players only use the top 5 skills... how the fuck can you look at this data and think its fine?
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>>739369652
arpgs precede mmos, zoomerfag
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>>739370219
Herald of Blood + Bloodlust
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>>739370227
It actually looks a lot better than usual.
The top skill is comet at ONLY 27%.
I think that's the best I've seen it.
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tldr

whats the s++++ starter?
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Post em /v/
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>>739370227
>Like the game got 200 skills or so, and like 90% of the players only use the top 5 skills
It will always be like that. If 199 skills are perfectly balanced, but there's 1 skill that deals 0.000000000000000000000000000001% more damage than the rest, 90% of players will use that skill. To the average ARPG player anything less than the best of the best is completely unplayable.
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>>739370202
you must be the marketing dept.
most likely going to try the sorc djinn asc or druid.
didnt have time to play last league.
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>>739370329
Yeah and and which attack
And don't say mace strike I want a REAL answer
I just don't get why I can't use one of the 20 other strike skills in the game, why am I limited to perfect strike, boneshatter, and armor breaker? They all feel like shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbPdwx4DSNg

OUR BOY HAS THE TL;DR
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>>739338062
havent played since 0.1
whats fixed?
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>>739370390
Iron Ward
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>>739370350
No most games try and actually balance their game somewhat and think it's not a good idea that 99% of the stuff is untouched, this is NOT normal.
And most games have some kind of fantasy with stuff, like cold spells are often more about control, fire is pure damage, lightning has a bigger damage range (RNG). Daggers are faster and more mobile, but doesn't do as much in a single hit, spears are longer ranged and more of a poke, axes are big fury attacks etc.
Poe has nothing of this, you just play a caster that has the current OP spell that does massive AoE, costs no resources to do, is fast to do and is just better in every way possible.

Stop pretending every game has shit balance like Path of poo
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>>739370360
>you must be the marketing dept.
that fucking hurt
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>nerf melee skills to deal less damage
>nerf leeching too
It's okay, I never had problems getting to red maps.
Though, I have to wonder why?
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>played gas grenade last league, but now it's nerfed to the ground
>the furry grandpa was just ok
>ele spellcaster was slow windup dogshit
>quarterstaves were great as gemling before they got giga nerfed too
>melee is literally worse than PoE1
>bleed spear was a slog
>skipped LA meme meta, but I wish I didn't
Is it really just tornado and more monkshit this league?
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>>739370495
>poo
Why is poe/poe2 hate so jeet coded bros?
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>>739370343
CoC, Varashta chill pops or other (she has the only unnerfed ES recovery node in the game), etc
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>>739370415
you paid to test it, u tell us
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>>739370628
neither sounds fun
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>NERF NOO NERF
>POWER CREEP NOO POWER CREEP
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>>739338147
>>739338165
>>739359135
Like, seriously? Haven't followed this at all.
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>>739338062
Still better than any other arpg out there
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>>739367545
>amazon werewolf
wtf
I will now buy your game
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>Another warrior nerf
>New content is dogshit endgame
>Still no templar
>Still no swords and axes
>Still a braindead ranged retard catering game
Glad I got a key for free and didn't give these cunts any money.
The absolute state of hack and slashes is appalling.
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How do you have infinite Tencent money and still barely get anything done?
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>>739370873
Western dev incompetence. Would never happen with asian devs. Same shit with helldivers 2
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>>739370957
>Western
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>>739352327
i consider myself to have milked every last drop of enjoyment i could out of the first game, to the point of not being able to stomach the genre at all anymore, and I have 250 hrs
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>retards cry that boneshatter is literally destroyed
>check patch notes
>10% reduced attack speed
lmao no wonder you warrior cucks are laughed at
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>>739370980
>250 hrs
>poe1
So you're still a fucking beginner noob ok
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>>739370972
>westoid /v/irgin doesnt know the difference between developers and publishers
Prediction: Burger
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>>739370980
>250 hours
>i consider myself to have milked every last drop of enjoyment i could out of the first game
fucking lmao
you are like a little baby
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>>739363869
Fuck your floaty gay ass combat
Dins legacy won.


https://youtu.be/ejcKEUbiv5s?si=2VPWTy1X07Fq7l4L
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>>739371030
westoids barely know the difference between youre and your
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>>739370873
free money makes people worse, not better
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>>739370707
sakula...
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>>739370873
All the money goes to advertisement, that's why in every patch you see EVERY big streamer get paid to watch their announcements and then stream the game, places like 4chan gets spammed with threads about the game and extreme advertisement overall.
Then 1 week after the patch is released you never hear a single soul mention this game for months until the same thing happens for the next patch
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>>739371295
social proof is everything to sales.
please verify mr marketer.
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>>739371030
>retard doesn't know the difference between ownership and publishing
Prediction: turd world brownie
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>>739371286
the mic rula, the old schoola, you want a trip, I’ll bring it to ya
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>>739371398
>burger /v/irgin doubling down
Stay fat and /v/irgin
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Poop of Excrement Poo is now 6 years behind (pun intended) schedule and is now getting it's 2nd straight 6 month long patch with 0 improvements. Just accept that this shit is Scam Citizen 2 and move on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCDIBA2Icls

reminder
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>>739371978
It's so weird looking back on this and seeing the abilities and characters be so quick and agile looking like poe1.
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>>739371929
>literally can't stop thinking about shit
ok ranjeet
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is lightning still king and are rest of the elements completely ignored?
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>>739370645
i paid to play with friends
you should get some bro
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>>739369728
literally haven't played this game in years
keep coping poe incel
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Why are melee tags so whiny?
t. Witchchad
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>>739358427
>given all the new runes
kek like those unique staffs which are automatically huge DPS losses the moment you equip them because they don't have +level of skills on them?

they've put 0 thought into their attempts at balancing items and stats so far
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>>739371634
>poor, brown, ugly AND stupid
LMAOOO
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>>739371004
>>739371083
it's incredible if you think this is swaying anyone to your side of the opinion
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>>739372427
>can't even beat the game with help
what a casual
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PoE is the best thing we have and only has a few minor problems, stop hating it
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>>739343337
Lategame reworks look great, some nice QoL changes, but you would have wanted to see some more buffs for weaker abilities. Overall pretty good patch.
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Reminder that this game is 100% owned by Tencent, this is all shilling
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>>739368329
>>739370779
As an idea you're closer with Huntress to life flask recovery so that you can take the new chestpiece and combo it with the panther defenses, that way you can ignore shit defenses (non-ward) on the chest and focus entirely on your helmet, gloves, and boots
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SAAR PLEASE REDEEM THE POE
YOU MUST REDEEM THE POE DO NOT CRITICIZE SAAR DO NOT
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>>739372916
Anon 250hours in poe is nothing
Come back if you're at 2500
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>>739372937
>textbook friendless reply
kek
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I just remembered charms exist
Fuck you Jonathan
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>>739372871
>burger calling others poor brown and stupid
Hilarious. Stay fat.
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>>739373234
Flasks suck
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>>739373194
>too stupid to come up with a retort to textbook reply but muh friend
add them to the call, lil gup. you need all the help you can get LMAO
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>>739373250
>admitting to being ugly
HAHAHAHAHAHHA
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Doesn't matter how many patch notes they make it still plays like a number go up mobile game.
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>>739373449
the genre is mostly number go up.
play exanima and no rest for the wicked.
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>>739373295
>that cope
keep your chin up lil bro
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>>739369783
>>739370243
how many instant max level tokens did you purchase in world of warcraft
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>>739359973
what the fuck do you think? lmao
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twisters league.
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>>739373521
Yeah it's shit genre I know which is why I fucking hate it. Sometimes I think about playing them but then I remind myself what a retarded particle fest it is and get upset again.
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>>739373328
Dont pop a vein there
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How is torchlight infinite compared to path of woke?
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>>739374137
Bad
No matter how much Poe screws up no other ARPG can even compete with it
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>>739338147
They're still polishing the swords, okay? Every single randomly generated one.
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>>739368808
>>739369094
The game's really fun, but I just want Swords, Axes or Daggers. I've already exhausted all builds I want to do. 0.5 is probably going to be Facebreaker or Nightfall build and that's about it, unless there's some super interesting Kalguuran skills.
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>>739374137
poe on meth
it's pretty fun and the amount of scaling you have to do for endgame [high rank ordrak/ss21/4x gold compass deep space] is crazy
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>>739374137
>path of woke
the what now
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>>739370873
this >>739371119
see: Fatshark and Darktide
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>>739370873
What's the metric for "not getting anything done"?
If there was no end-game rework, still the same drab atlas, but you got one more act + Shadow and swords, would you be singing their praises instead?
Shows where your priorities lie. Current update future-proofs longevity of the game, what you'd wanted gives you short-term dopamine rush, until you deplete the fun out of the character and weapon type, since there's nothing to do with these new toys.
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>>739374565
>future-proofs the longevity of the game by making melee unplayable
So this is the power of The Vision™
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>>739374302
do i have to buy characters or something? i cant use abilities
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>>739374137
P2W garbage. The gacha pets are extremely OP and influence the drops and the player power.
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>>739374741
Since when was melee unplayable? It's been a screen clearing boss instakiller archetype since day 1
Just how fucking shit are you at the game? Abyss made it consistent to just craft ~1000+ phys mauls and equivalent staves and spears along with max + to skills
I'm starting to see the pattern that people crying about the game just don't know how to play
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>>739374824
Did you start Iris 2? She just has the minion for the first couple of levels, you'll just be supporting that
It's a good starter. Thea 3 and Erika 1 are good too, though the latter is squishy.
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poe2 is just weird man
It's like they got mad that people were going fast in poe1, so they made a game about being slow. But they're terrible at balance so at endgame you still go fast and blow up everything instantly, defeating the whole idea behind the game and making early game way more awful
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>>739374979
this
i could spend time learning enemy movesets and nailing parries just to barely do 1% of 1 button meta builds that explode everything at the edge of the screen
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>>739375156
It's genuinely the fanbase's fault. If they don't have broken builds like that, most of the audience won't play, so they throw them some bones every patch, but you're absolutely right that it's totally at odds with the way they're trying to balance the rest of the game.
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Didn't /ourguy/ elon solve this game like a year ago? He's a top player while running the biggest company in the world lol.
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>>739375276
I just think PoE2 is full of contradictions that will bite them in the ass long term. It will be very interesting to see the player numbers this league because if they end up lower than last league (which was lower than the league before it) I think most players just can't be fucked going through the campaign every time
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>>739375351
Errol Musk is the only Musk that matters.
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>>739374979
Don't forget they added le dodge mechanic for more tacticool experience which doesnt matter at all if you blow up screens at a time anyway
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>>739375675
They got assmad people demanded they add sprint too, so it stunlocks you for 3 seconds if a ranged mob hits you 1 time
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>>739375531
People only care about the campaign, each league they beat the campaign, reach endgame and quit playing the game.
Endgame in these games sucks so much
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>>739375649
I don't know who that is but Elon is better at the game than anyone whiner in this thread.
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>>739375884
Elon Musk's father, had two children with his former stepdaughter.
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>>739375734
sprint is actually fun to use
problem is everything is 2x larger than it needs to be so you'll be sprinting through pointless empty areas
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>>739375974
is this supposed to upset me? Because it's doing the opposite
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>>739375790
>theyc are about the campaign
No. The campaign is the same. They just add 1 new mechanic and create new ladder. So now people want to make their number go up again because its neeeew. Once their number is higha gain they quit and wait for another neeeeeew thing to start number from 0. This genre is just filled with monkeys.
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diablo 2 is the only game in this genre I need. new ladder tonight lads
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>>739376218
The endgame is also the same, you will be running the same maps over and over and over again. Only difference is that you now have to deal with 10 more different currencies that just takes up your time to prevent your from actually playing.
The campaign is the only actual fun part about this game
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>>739338062
>Removing Chrono recoup
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>>739376378
My gripe with that post was that you're calling it campaign when really nobody gives a fuck about story or any of that. They just do it because number goes up faster. But after maps it slows down so much they don't get enough dopamine to continue. So now they wait for the number to be forced back to 0 so they can make it go up again while being motivated by the herd mentality of *everyone else* doing the same.
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>>739376560
No during the campaign you have lots of variation, the zones you enter are all new and unique, you get new skills and interactions, new bosses etc.
Maps is doing the same few maps over and over and over and over and over again with close to no variation all bosses except the end end game bosses you do once in a blue moon is just old bosses.
There's nothing new or nothing to actually strive for.
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>>739376503
no way, what a shame.
wish chrono had more weird time-manip skills.
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>>739376660
Aren't maps just like remixed campaign biomes with higher level. And new bosses come on they play same bosses million times.
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>>739376739
>Aren't maps just like remixed campaign biomes with higher level
That's the exact thing, when you reach endgame all you do is clear the same old map you've already cleared over and over and over again.
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>>739376816
>the same exact map
You never even played these games wtf
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>>739376660
>>739376739
>>739376816
Poe endgame has more variety than campaign. Half of the mechanics, items and skills are literally unavailable until you venture onto the maps. Most bosses exist only on maps and in other endgame mechanics. Campaign is basically a tutorial leading up to the main (end) game which also has its own quests, progression system and passive tree.
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>>739370980
The genre is not for you then.
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>>739377038
But it's sad that the depth of the game and mechanics is just there for the sake of depth and game still plays the same where you spam 1 skill to kill the whole screen.
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I'm on a macbook and my macbook crashes playing path of exile 1 and im not gonna use crossover to play diablo 2 resurrected or diablo 4 or last epoch or poe 2 so im stuck playing native diablo 3. yep...im gaming!
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>>739370573
>Though, I have to wonder why?
They hate fun. I'm willing to bet it's the same faggot(s) that pushed the leech nerfs in patch 1.10 of Diablo 2.
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>>739377138
There’s real depth here if you actually try to engage with the game instead of just following a guide for an obviously broken build and buying every item. Even a one or two-button builds can be fun if you make it yourself and fine-tune it to the point where it can take down endgame bosses and T15 maps.
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If you're no longer playing as exiled why is it named path of exile 2?
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>>739377323
You're playing as exile.
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>>739377290
If reading keywords is hard for you I guess yeah it can be quite exciting.
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>>739377387
I guess you find them hard to read, since you’ve decided to mention them. I can’t see why else you would mention such trivial matter.
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>>739377375
I thought you were playing as prisoners?
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>>739377515
Before all this hanging every new character had been exiled in some way.
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>>739377508
Because that's how you build your character. Pick the nodes that work with your skill and then get every life/shiedl on the way and 2ndary defense like evasion or armor on the way you like.
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>>739377701
>life node
I see no point in arguing with someone who hasn’t even played the game.
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>>739377760
Strength in poe2, same shit.
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>red life in poe2
laffin
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>>739377927
It's too late, you've already proven yourself to be a complete idiot who doesn't even know what he's talking about.
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>>739378070
You're on par with people who call quits because someone made grammatical error. You just want the easy win because you're afraid boohoo.
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>>739338062
>0.5
>2 years for this update
>still early access
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>>739378126
Anon, both of your posts are wrong. There’s no Life on the passive tree and there are only two STR clusters which together give you like 150 Life.
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still not buying it not even for $5

it's f2p game and will treat it as such
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>>739378323
But somehow I had like 300 str on lvl 80 and below 20 dex and int.
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>>739378459
Probably because you had it on your gear you moron.
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>>739378580
Gear is part of your build.
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Why are they pigeonholing everyone into playing their showcase twister build?

It's literally going to be 90% Twister builds on launch.
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>>739376503
the recoup is now spread on the passive tree, available for every character
30% dr is already going to be busted as shit with any amount of recoup
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>>739378762
nah fubgun will play iceshot and bleed off a decent amount of people thankfully
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>>739378762
Twister is fucking BORING, spearfield is much more fun
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>>739379145
>spearfield is much more fun
agreed using it with atziri's spear was neat
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>>739378762
because it'll be funny when everyone quits day 2



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