This is the beautiful drow boomers told you about
Ugh lee
I'm not up to date with d&d but I remember reading the drizzt books as a kid and every drow was black as coal and they all had red eyes (except for drizzt).Are playable goody goody drows just the norm now? and their skin is light purple like warcraft's night elves?
Not our fault they don't know a Drow isn't supposed to age a day in 100 years
Why is Lady Shar bad again?
>>739362002Drow is still murderous, just that there is a subgroup that reject their religion and way of life.
>>739361834
>>739362002u have chinese half-orcs and afro-american high elves now, modern d&d is beyond retarded
>>739362002it's pnp so how are drow portrayed depends entirely on your DM. the problem with dnd lore is that you have a lot of editions and source books that often contradict with each other. everyone just wants to be special snowflake chaotic good drow instead of evil, and you end up with that tiefling comic meme where suddenly every drow player character is good despite "technically" a good drow should be rare. the portrayal goes anywhere from black/coal t purple
>>739362002Which part of a murderous, kidnapping grooming gang Doomsday Cult suggests "goody goody drows" to you?
>>739362002>goody goody drows just the norm now?default drow now is drizzt, but also tubomegagay gay faggot>their skin is light purple like warcraft's night elvesnigga drow aren't a thing for quite some time now. They are mostly blue or purplle now (like dunmers o algo)
I'm amused by how in BG3 Larian even makes whores and sluts look like dried up middle-aged women with horse faces and tiny tits. I recommend people to check out earlier Divinity games or Dragon Commander. This studio used to be straight as fuck and have testosterone, what changed?
Here are your wood elves bro
yup, bald gay 3 is shit, we know
>>739362226I thought the orcs were mexicans. Was there another update?
>>739362286Selenite drows
>>739362362>what changedGovernment funding
>>739361834Who will make bg4?>Sawyer, the sour looser>owlcucks, taking gulf money for a walk>Bioware, beware>TODD>nagoshi
>>739362362the small tits thing is more just laziness by having just few female body models so everyone will look the same with the same clothing whether they are young or hagsdragon commander has just few unique characters
>>739361834>>739362428Western woke bullshit.
>>739362605buzzwords
>>739362428>elves value beauty>mate with nigsIm guessing rape was involved?
>>739362657Pretend to not understand if you want, doesn't matter to me.
>>739362707do you ever have a single individual thought, goy?
>>739362552i vote for Todd, but just for the laughs
>>739362776Try as you might to convince me to buy woke games and it still won't work. Woke companies will keep failing, as they should.
>>739362552I think Sawyer said he'd make it only if he got an equal budget to BG3 from MS for it.
>>739362931>talks to one slag at a bar>immediately gets black pilledskill issue desu. why isnt he meeting a girl at church? oh yeah he never goes (though he undoubtedly larps as a tradcath on twitter)
>>739363027and it still would be boring shit like his every game
>>739362002The playable goodie-goodie drow were a thing since the 90's. IMO Eilistraee>Drizzt, because at least Eilistraee has the lore backing her up as to why her drow are the good guys.
>>739362428More like "Hood elves" am i right?
>>739363057>blaming menhey Ive seen this one before
>>739361834You all are a bunch of retards:>At the time you meet her in BG3 she's at minimum 450 years old, with Drow living around 700.>It's drow lore since Day 1 that those who were raised in the Underdark, and then spend too much time in sunlight, age visibly faster. It doesn't affect their lifespan, but they look older.>Then throw in serving Shar, the goddess of entropy, which also takes a toll on her clerics.
>>739363057ywnbaw
>>739363063Making a sequel to an already established game with the same mechanics and graphics is what Obsidian does best.
>>739363119Ill blame the one individual who is blaming an entire gender, yes. unlike the imaginary guy in the comic, I go by a case by case basis and am not a 0 IQ reactionary
>>739362949when did i ever try to convince you to buy anything. did you forget to take meds?
>>739362226Its also extremely faggy
Remember when Drizzles sister tried to fug him. I do.
>>739362931It's actually strange that zoomie girls have such severe issues that they signal sexual and romantic interest by showing potential mates her self made porns.
>>739363129>>It's drow lore since Day 1 that those who were raised in the Underdark, and then spend too much time in sunlight, age visibly faster. It doesn't affect their lifespan, but they look older.is this a new edition thing?Im sure I never saw this mentioned before. And I red all Dark Elf novels.
>>739363170So you're just a random moron then? Good to know.
>>739363027That's poe3. Wotc already announced bg4. It's owlcucks or obisidian. Embracer beamdog can't handle it. I doubt a new comer will get it, larian needed to hits in a row to qualify.
>>739363209It's been Drow lore since the start, it's just almost never mentioned because everyone wants their Drow to look young and sexy. It's part of their curse.
>>739363169>doubling downhey Ive seen this one too!
>>739363191When was that? Is RA still at it? Might be worth a go, I really loved those books when I was young but there really is too many of them.
>>739363276>it's just almost never mentionedah ok, another schizo troon, or a jew.
>>739363225because i didn't try to convince you to buy anything? can you at least try making sense?also where do you think you are?
>>739363129But the thing is: SHE REJECTS SHAR IN EVERY TOB EPILOGUE.Also, she was never really a bad or cruel person, she was just a snarky bitch with a hidden softie side. Larian turned her into a Saturday morning cartoon villain for no reason. That's criminal.
>>739361834Never gonna play it!
>>739363334>because i didn't try to convince you to buy anything?You really are a moron.
>>739363384still hallunicating what nobody said?
>>739363340No, she doesn't. She only does one thing that pisses her off. That's it.>Also, she was never really a bad or cruel person>She served Lloth for a 150 years, then moved onto Shar, possibly the single most evil deity in the setting.>She murdered three of her previous husbands.>In BG1, if you Charm the Flaming Fist mercenary chasing her and talking to him then, you find out she murdered an entire family, including the children.LITERALLY the only evil act she refused in her entire history is sacrificing an infant.
>>739363437Yep, still a moron. It's not your fault though, you were born that way.
>>739361834feels like a slap in the face for anyone who played the classics
>>739363209The writers keep flip-flopping about this constantly. Sometimes, sunlight has a negative effect on the drow and their equipment, except the times when it doesn't, but then it does, but only for the Lolth drow, but no, not really, because many players find it too punishing. I think at this point they settled on "drow on the surface suffer no negative consequences" after 5e snowflake players were crying that picking a drow puts them at the disadvantage.
>>739363464still a schizo?
>>739362002They've never been consistent on drow skin color. They were even drawn with brown skin in a few cases in the 80s because the artist didn't get the description ("they're black elves").
>>739363443>In BG1, if you Charm the Flaming Fist mercenary chasing her and talking to him then, you find out she murdered an entire family, including the childrenYes, because they were trying to murder her first. Her entire shtick is that she's REALLY trying not to pick a fight with anyone, but everybody keeps picking a fight with her.
>>739363165Only when they can get the full suite of assets from the previous game.
>>739363515Boring too. Not worth my time.
>>739363531>in a few casesLiterally their first depiction.
>>739363554>Yes, because they were trying to murder her first.You're mistaking what I'm talking about with a different family. That one was between BG1 and BG2, the one that tried to bury her alive.
>>739362002why do you want them darker?
>>739363590Isn't the first one the most likely one to be wrong?
>>739363315Wasn't it literally the first one?
>>739363586understandable, it's valuable, could be posting on /pol/ instead
>>739363251>owlcucks or obisidianGrim
>>739363531At this point WotC have settled on drow having light grey/purple skin, because they concluded black skin is racist. In the same way they concluded that orcs are a racist depiction of the black people and to counter that they turned them into a racist depiction of Mexicans. How are they coming to those conclusions, I don't know, but I think they are the problem, not the D&D or the fandom itself.
>>739363658Sure, how about another?
Drow women used to look like this.What changed?
>>739363251>It's owlcucks or obisidianNah, it's Bioware
>>739363836they never looked like that in games
>>739363658It's funny, because it was literally the artist that took the description literally. He heard, "Drizzt is a 70-year-old black elf" without context and drew an old black dude on the cover.
>>739361834It's obvious no one at Larian actually played BG1 and 2, they just read some bullshit online - both Viconia and Sarevok in BG3 were completely mischaracterized.
>>739363590There were drow depictions before Drizzt, including black and white drawings in adventure modules and the like. Sometimes it looks like true black and sometimes it more of a shade or a actual colored picture where they are brown (vault of the drow comes to mind).There is that one depiction of Drizzt where he looks like an old black guy that's a perfect example of miscommunication >>739363739WoTC are undoubtedly severely retarded. I don't think anyone should care what they do or say
>>739361834>"...as envisioned by zoomers"
>>739363931>>739363969Anons, Viconia's first actual portrait has her with brown skin. The purple on her face is war paint.
>>739363804Here is the original cover
>>739362428More like niggers.
>>739364000Those avatars were all real Bioware employees and their friends in the 90s
>>739362931>doesn’t just fuck the bitch and then move on like everyone else>instead chooses to worship the guy who killed himself when things didn’t go his waywhy are they like this?
Don't drows have an insane lifespan? Why has she aged so much in just 100 years?
>>739363960its actually worse, they went out of their way to spite fans and retconned stuff which happened in bg2+tob. In bg3 they mention her killing Sharan cult but claim she wasnt betrayed like in epilogue. There are also interactions with Minsc and Jaheira which are made up bullshit considering she was very loyal companion.
>>739364041>meanwhile /v/ calling for retvrn to how fantasy characters used to be portrayed
>>739364121I know, I'm talking about the skin color they gave her. Pic related, by the way, is the actual art director at BioWare at the time. Literally Gigachad daVinci.>>739364229>In bg3 they mention her killing Sharan cult but claim she wasnt betrayed like in epilogue.In no epilogue was she betrayed, what the fuck are you talking about?>There are also interactions with Minsc and Jaheira which are made up bullshit considering she was very loyal companion.No, retard, it's just that the interactions make it clear she left the party between BG2 and ToB for trying to kill Boo, which IS something that happens in a banter between her and Minsc.
>>739364223Drow usually had slightly shorter natural lifespans than other elves but still measured in the centuries. Regular elves also had the thing where they'd sail off to their Tolkien-island to live out the majority of their years, only spending a third or so among the lands of mortals. Drow of course didn't have that.
>>739364223>just 100 yearsCloser to 150 years.>Don't drows have an insane lifespan?Around 700 years, and Viconia is at minimum 450 by the time BG3 rolls in.
>>739364391https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Viconia_DeVir>In her default Epilogue, Viconia moves on with her own adventures after parting ways with Gorion's Ward. She founds a short-lived Sharite cult under her command in Waterdeep, only to slaughter them all when they betray her, shrugging off the chastisement of her goddess.
>>739364391The guy just drew himself as gigachad though.Still the best portrait anyway
>>739362931>guy imagines himself buff and with a slut>becomes buff and goes out with a slut>gets madI don’t get it, what is the message of this comic?
>>739364229>>739363960You're implying this was Larian's doing, but it was actually all shitty decisions and retcons WotC did themselves. They made a couple of novels and campaigns post-BG2 and shat the bed royally.Larian had little to do with all that crap.
>>739364391>clear she left the party between BG2 and ToB for trying to kill Boodoesnt happen in game, total fiction made up by larian writers
>>739364671yeah im sure WoTC suits emailed Larian to include Sarevok AND specified he has to be in incestuous relationship with his daughter and granddaughter. That surely wasnt just dengenerate larian writers shitting on previous games.
>>739364861Sarevok used to have an asian waifu who tried to save him from himself and then went to to properly bury her in the East after ToB.Then WoTC made him become a crackhead and devolve into a murder hobo again. Larian degeneracy was just the cherry on top.
>>739362931Who is the green
>>7393645461. So the cult betrayed her, not her goddess.2. She was simply chastised by Shar, not expelled.You proved my point, retard.
>>739364861>>739364929>>739364671You are all retards.Sarevok has two epilogues in ToB.In one of them he switches from CHAOTIC EVIL into CHAOTIC GOOD within a few weeks, for no particular reason. This is the one where he supposedly journeys to Kara-Tur to bury Tomoko - who is Yoshimo's sister, by the way.In the second he becomes a tormented man who does great deeds of good at one point and atrocities at another, finally disappearing from history.If you think the first one makes any sense you're braindead.
>>739361834https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AbdHHIB-7xoBoomers like this actually, and witch elves, and would lick the feet of Xal'atath, and Pirotess.
>>739365773You have no point, you’re an illiterate retard who never played the previous games and didn’t even bother to read the short summary I linked.
>>739362064because moralfagging lightcucks dominate the conversation
>>739363464Holy fuck he didn't like it when you said you weren't going to play with him. Not. One. Bit. lmao.
>>739365954>who never played the previous gamesFunny to say that for a man who gets basic facts about the games wrong and then pretends he never said it, resorting to sophistry instead.
Lineage 2 dark elves only had different variations of skimpy gear with thongs
>>739365618me
>>739362552It's Beamdog's turn you nigger
>>739365889everything makes more sense than Larians making him into bhaalist cuck who fucks daughters, in previous games he clearly states he doesnt want to resurrect bhaal but fulfill the Alaundo prophecy and become god of murder himself
Why is it only super duper important that female characters be ugly, even on /v/?No one argues passionately that, I don't know, fucking Nathan Drake should be a stage 5 Norwood.
>>739366367Because this board is filled with THOSE types that hate attractive women
>>739366194did beamdog even make any game that isn't just taking old game and giving it questionable UI rework and adding fanfic content that no one asked for?i want them to make bg4 just for the comparisons with bg3
>>739366089you posted made up story about Boo and didnt know about sharan cult epilogue which specifically gets mentioned in BG3, you are clearly posting chatgot hallucinations and do not have slightest idea about either of those games
>>739361834My OC drow is based.No, I didn't recreate her in BG3.
>>739366503Don't think so, no. I know they wanted to make BG3 before they got cucked by larian.
>>739366312Yes, and after that went to hell, after wandering around, he realized his lineage is the only thing he has left, and resigned himself to it once Bhaal returned. You'd understand this very simple character arc if you've played the game.>>739366512>you posted made up story about BooIt's banter restored via the Unfinished Business mod, you cretin, and she suggests dissecting Boo.
>>739366312Nigger, do you realize you are using mods? In the original BG1 he do not have this dialogue.But still, I think Larians are cucks who should be hanged.
baldur's gate 3 is jewish filth.
>>739366512>didnt know about sharan cult epilogueOh, and I knew that, idiot, but you said that Shar betrayed Viconia, not that she partook in some inter-cult violence.
>>739364391>In no epilogue was she betrayed>>739365773>So the cult betrayed her, not her goddessKek and this is the guy that tries to pretend he as played the game? The topic wasn't about her goddess, btw, BG3 specifically retcons her cult betraying her, specifically saying that Shar ordered her to kill them all.>>739366690>It's banter restored via the Unfinished Business mod, you cretin, and she suggests dissecting Boo.Imagine needing to use fucking cut content to support your point, and her suggesting something isn't the same as ACTUALLY DOING IT, which is what BG3 retconned, Viconia never does that in BG2, kill yourself retard.
>>739366761Is Greenwood Jewish?
>>739366714this is screenshot of the dialogue from unmodified (besides portrait) i dont believe previous picture had dialogue changed by a mod i picked different options but its pretty much the same>>739366762never said Shar betrayed viconia but the cult did you fucking retard
>>739367119>from unmodifiedAgain, this is 100% a mod. I finished BG1/2 hundreds of times (and it is still installed on my PC), and know EVERY dialogue in this game.Go be nigger somewhere else (go to Reddit).
>>739361834Thats on old man in a vig
>>739362238being evil is fine, but being a bdsm addict that eats male babies for breakfast isn't. I don't like special snowflakes but I don't blame people not wanting to play Drow as chaotic evil
>>739362428>elves have identical sub-species to humansIts funny how "diversity" kills diversity.
>>739362657>western>buzzwordAmerigay education
>>739363836If this is attractive to you, you're gay
is there even a mod to make Viconia not a male in a wig?
>>739367119isn't this EE? ie. not original BG
>>739363174Definitively drawn by a troon.
>>739367516is everything trannies to you? she looks old and ugly, not like a man
>>739367559I do not need your opinion.you literally worship Moloch
>>739367246nigger i have unmoddified clean bg1 and modded games separately installed and can open Near Infinity to check dialogue in both of those games
>>739367716I just like to pretend I know about videogames (i actually stopped playing them long time ago). I ask AI for most of the information and then reply to random people in herelol
are drow under ip? i remember reading a bit of drowtales like decades ago and it was basically a 1 for 1 copy of dnd drow, at least in the beginning, even with the spider motifs and shit. i'd love more vidya with them but can't trust dnd, especially after this bs with viconia. and i still remember getting bait and switched by the devs with valsharess in hotu too. fucking pissed me off, making me think there was an evil route with her.
>>739367246It's the dialogue from the unmodified game. It's even voiced.
>>739367965>and i still remember getting bait and switched by the devs with valsharess in hotu too.You had an entire faction of good-aligned Eilistraee drow waifus to pick from and you decided to pick one drow in the game that's evil as fuck.
>>739362605>Muh wokeAnti-woketard fatigue settling in
pregnant mintharapregnantminthara
>>739363443Why did she murder them?
>>739361834Ready for some mykal cock.
>>739363901Unfortunately so
>>739363443>>In BG1, if you Charm the Flaming Fist mercenary chasing her and talking to him then, you find out she murdered an entire family, including the children.I find it funny how much people started spamming this after BG3 came out, completely ignoring how it goes against her characterization in BG2 (she was barely a character in the first game) or how the Flamist Fist soldier was obviously racist so taking his word for it makes no sense
>>739368227Peachpilled darkwoke nazicels shouldn't pollute the internet with their buzzword kinos.
>>739361834kind of looks like a dude with small boobs
>>739366503Iwdee is ok
>>739367965I think Drow are a free thing to use since they're used in most mythologies around the world
>>739361834>finally get around to playing it>endless fucking cutscenes for everyting you do>if you can read faster than a geriatric and skip the dogshit one note voice acting everyone just constantly teleports all over the placeI can see why normalfags like this movie game but holy shit modern gaming is so dead.
>>739364183>first bitch he meets ruins his worldviewLeads to worship the guy that offed himself after the>first time things got slightly out of handGlad I could help
>>739366503i heard Planscape torment EE is well done
>>739368091>You had an entire faction of good-aligned Eilistraee drow waifus to pick from and you decided to pick one drow in the game that's evil as fuck.well obviously. the evil and danger adds to the appeal. it's like hentai that turns succubi into completely normal chicks with horns. it's stupid and boring af. the tension between the "i really shouldn't fuck her because she's really bad for me" and "she's so goddamn hot, i don't give a shit anymore", that's what makes things so interesting. the push and pull between temptation and caution, her changing you for the "worse", and you changing her for the "better".
>>739368227Noone cares faggot
>>739369079>"WAIT TIME OUT, I'M HARD, I'M HARD!"
>>739362002They always had a range from light grey to obsidian black but at some point they changed them to be this gay purple color because having a matriarchal society of BLACK KWEENS portrayed as evil was problematic.
>>739368443Got bored of them.
>>739368513>completely ignoring how it goes against her characterization in BG2You mean how she mentions in BG2 she murdered her three previous husbands and has absolutely no issue with anything evil you can do?>racist>I'm chasing a member of an evil race that murdered an entire familyShould he have read her her Miranda's rights?
>>739369808No Lariantroon, I mean how she wants to keep a low profile and avoids getting herself into problems because she knows she's vulnerable >Should he have read her her Miranda's rights?No Lariantroon, she's a drow so even if she didn't do it he isn't going to believe her
hmmm dick's trembling
>>739369943Keep seething about your shit arguments.
>>739369079How I met your mothers.
>>739369808in both games u save her life from unjust mob and fanatics who want her dead because shes a drow.
>>739370147>Literally no argumentI accept your concession, Lariantroon
>>739370515In the first game you save her from a member of law enforcement chasing her for a crime she did commit.
>>739370790>for a crime she did commitProve it. Again, the only evidence of this is the soldier who is racist and it goes completely against her characterization in BG2. Maybe the intended for it to be that way at first because she was a non-character in the first game, but in the second one they completely contadicted that.
I think more games should feature sex with dark elves.
>>739370893a bold and controversial opinion, but one i'm inclined to agree with.
I wish we had more videogames set in Eberron. They had some pretty fun drow.
>>739370889>prove that this Neutral Evil cleric of an evil goddess who used to serve another evil goddess and has no problem with murder would murder anyone
>>739370790Viconia says hes lying, maybe hes telling the truth but he still weirdly tries to kill her without a proper trial, also normally for killing innocent Flaming Fist u get severe reputation penalty but in this case not.
>>739371558>Can't even readRetard.
>>739370893reckoning was so fckin funAlyn Shir is my waifu
>>739361834Larian deliberately did her dirty, the same with all the other returning characters. They wanted to smear them and establish dominance over something that is fondly remembered and considered by those with taste to be far superior.
>Step aside travelers, I am a member of the Flaming Fist. The woman you are harboring is wanted for murder of the foulest sort. She is a dark elf; it should be obvious that she is evil.">3-What do you intend to do once you have her?>"Kill her, of course."Yeah, this guy sounds fair and legit.
>>739371802Sounds based
Dark elves owe me sex.
I would empty my balls inside Minthara given the chance
>>739371802Only he's right, she is evil and has committed a murder.
>>739370893How could you say something so controversial yet so brave?
>>739363076>Drow barges into your village naked at night>Gives you free food they hunted in the woods as their prayers to her goddess>Doesn't elaborate>LeavesWhat the fuck is Eilistraee's point
she ate aeries baby
>>739372780To make me want to FUCK Drow, of course.
>>739365905That retarded knife has nothing to do with dark elves what the hell are you on about
>>739372834Anon it's Forgotten Realms people already want to shag elves even long before Lolth divorced Corellon and he painted half of their kids purpleI'm kinda surprised the half elf pulation is so small and there's barely other elf mutts other than humies around at this point.
>>739364654putting women on a pedestal
>>739372780She just wants to make friends, anon.
Drow women owe human men sex.
Mods fixed it
>>739376081mods cant fix shit story
>>739376081>makeup: onvery non losslike of her to remember to wear makeup as a shar devoteeyou know what? Shar is a petty bitch of course she would uglypill Viconia after she got raped and buried alive for being pretty and then had a fling with CHARNAME.
