> In Rebirth, you can go from Kalm to Junon on foot and enter buildings without loading, while in Rebirth you have fucking black screens even to open a chest.> Having the entire party on screen fighting in the background to give you total immersion in the story is a major technical achievement. Hamaguchi is a true prodigy.> Rebirth's combat is some of the best in history. It's satisfying because it's predominantly strategic. That slow motion makes you feel like a fucking anime mastermind, with boss fights that have environmental interactions. Metaphore, on the other hand, just has a simplified Shin Megami V system.> Rebirth has varied dungeons with unique mechanics for each party member, while Metaphore's only mechanic is "crouch and crawl into the hole," with a mid-game dungeon that's moronically too long.> Rebirth has excellent graphics while Metaphore is literally a PS3 game.> Rebirth has an engaging love story while Metaphor removed romance for some hypster agenda (like the Outer Worlds), not realizing that half of Persona's success comes from that component.> Rebirth is full of memorable moments, the Parada, Costa del Sol, Gold Saucer, Vincent bossfight, Red XIII doing the moonwalk and I swear to god, even after finishing Metaphore, I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING about that generic plot. I think at some point it turns out that the fantasy world is actually our world in the future the sake of it, there's no real reason, it's just really bland.> Rebirth has mounts.> Rebirth has crafting.> Rebirth has minigames.> Rebirth has Queens Blood.> Rebirth quantity and quality of cutscanes was insane> No one remembers Metaphor anymore while Rebirth constantly gets love and discussions.Who the fuck voted Metaphor as best RPG for some personal agenda against Square Enix? Hamaguchi's team deserves more recognition, one of the best development teams in the world, fucking get Nomura and Nojima out of the writing and we could have the best Jrpgs ever in the future.
>>739365407because it has diversity and tolerance as stats or something idk
>>739365407why should either win and who gives a fuck about tranwards
FF 7 Stillbirth is dogshit, that's why
SMTV: Vengeance and Unicorn Overlord mog both of them
>>739365407Metaphor has SoVL.But you wouldn't get that. Indian.
>>739365407Nostalgiaslop LOST...
>>739365407I think the jury was prejudiced against a game that is only a part and not the full game.
>>739365407you lost
>>739365407Because the judges are experts and have criterias to base their decisions on, while you are just a faggot
>>739365407Rebirth has Ubisoft open world gameplay.
>>739366409Wich is better, Gaia is a great world to explore, remain in your PS2 cave.
aerith still being around pissed off the majority of players that's why it lost
>>7393654077R is shit, that's how.
they're both pretty shit
>>739365568Rebirth is more of a full game than the original FF7
>>739366527killing her off for good would be legitimately dangerous for square enix
>>739365407Heisenberg negative ass.
it got rated so high purely because of the anti racism messaging, game quality drops of a cliff in the second half.
>>739366527Wich is a fair criticism.I hate how Nojima and Nomura hav expressed all their writing incompetence only in key points of the plot.Because beside the ending the writing is really good, Yuffie, Barrett, even Cait Sith are more and well enstablished as characters.You can really see WHEN te actuall writers hav done a good job for the 98% of the game...And then Nomura enter in the room with his rend pen and start writing out of character bullshits.Aerith goes from being a straightforward girl to becoming the "Saintly Savior of the World".Seriously the difference from the rest of the game and the Nomura ending is really noticiable...
>>739366754nomura wanted the remakes to follow the original story you retardhe always gets blamed for shit
>>739365676Why do they hate it exactly?
>>739365407I thought it was funny that whenever you healed her she'd say thank you in her language and it sounded like she was saying "For Sneed".
>>739366889The best part? The "you're welcome" in her language sounds like 'Formerly Chuck'.
>>739366827Similarly he also gets absolved of all criticism because of one throwaway statement. He's still the main director, he wasn't defeated, he was persuaded. He still signed on the changes. It's ultimately his call.
>>739365407rebirth released too late. it missed the Ubislop/BotW open world + tower trend
>>739366827Nah dudeYou can really see the Kingdom Hearts/Advent Children tone hereIt was himOr him or Nojima but i think both are responsable for that shitty writing at the end of RebirthHaving Aerith and Zack fight Sephirt with Claud is just dogshit writingI donc care if is choerent because "Is nOt ParAlLele WorLds, iS tHe LifeStreAm"I dont carethat thing is asspure assPlay Expedition 33See the endingRemember wath GOOD writing isGet inspiration from cinema and not from shonen trope shitI love Rebirth but the ending is a big pile of shit
>>739366639can someone translate this autism
It's crazy how people can hate your another classic jrpg adventure with nice visuals, it's just a nice to play game that doesn't try to be something overly special, unfortunately Metaphor just like most atlus games did have potential to be much more than what it ended up being.
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>>739365407Look at the TGA voting panel. Just once. Give it a good examination one single time.You'll never give a single fuck who gets what award there again.
>>739365407>release a lazy reskin of P5, somehow even uglier>same format Fatlus has been recycling for nearly twenty years with minimal change >all the muh politics boils down to "find and beat the anime pretty boy to solve all problems">"10/10 god's gift to man, unparalleled imagination, bravo Atlus, a masterpiece for the ages">the game falls off the face of the earth two months later and is completely forgotten I swear there was some collective mass psychosis going around. I don't even mind Rebirth not winning, but Metaphor was so utterly forgettable and mediocre that looking at the reviews made me feel like I was taking crazy pills.
>>739367424Awards are all a popularity contest first of all, second of all, a REMAKE of a game that already exists winning would've been pretty lame as well.
>>739365407N O A S SOASS
>>739365407You posted the reason.
>>739365407Communist Kalergi's plot that's why it won. You will live in woke multicultural society and love it.
>>739365407I thought it was pretty enjoyable up until the final act. Not sure about the hate this game gets. They took a lot of the gay shit out of Persona and made a good game. But it has no anti aliasing so it just sets off autism.
>>739367586Here is the ass you so desperately crave.
>>739365407Because it's woke garbage
>>739367742Too much story. You are watching cutscenes or reading text for 60% of the game, which would be alright if the writing were good but it isn't because the characters are cardboard cutouts with no natural dialogue who each represent a single trope plus a single personal affectation. The battles and build system in between all the text are fun at least.And it doesn't really need AA when there are Xbox 360 levels of detail rendered at 4k.
A remake shouldn't win anything.
>>739365407Because FF7 Rebirth is pure shit
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Behead all trannies who simp for corporations. In the old days Square would get its office burned down for how they're raping final fantasy with it's greed and retardation.
>>739365407I've been saying that metaphor was tremendously overrated and pretty mediocre since day 1, i really dont know why, Anon.Like, it has a laughable level design, the job system is terrible, and the story, while it starts strong, it drops off a cliff quite hard. Plus, the social links STILL suck and are disconnected from the narrative, the characters are one note, and Will/The prince is by far the worst protagonist.Atlus need to stop with the "le silent protagonist" meme if you are not gonna make him just a random dude like in persona games. In metaphor, YOU CANT HAVE THE FUCKING FUTURE KING OR THE PRINCE TO BE A SILENT RETARD THAT LETS STHROL OR GALLICA DO ALL THE TALKING AND HAVE 0 IDEALS OF YOUR OWN TO CLASH WITH THE VILLAINI expected Will to become a real fully fledged characer once the prince revived in him, but NOPE, he became the same silent retard all the way through. It could have been such an efficient way to tell a story.
Even the libtard judges thought Redditbirth had too many niggers in it
>>739365407Metaphor was such a lie of a video game.The whole "Hieronymus Bosch" inspired enemies that they HEAVILY marketed prior to the games release was a total like because this kind of enemy design literally disappears about 20% into the game and rarely ever pops up again.The NG+ has to be the worst in the industry - now we know who was holding Persona back so badly.Fucking Hashino's game design is fucking dogshit.
FF7 Rebirth managed to be even worse than Metaphor.Sad truth.
>>739367047>rebirth was le amazing apart from the ending all that useless busywork didn't piss you off but a common science fiction trope "timeline travelling" did?
When Kaneko left smt died or smthing like that.>>739370697
I'm still waiting for the Royal version btw lmaoFuck Fatlus for doing this crap, hope they're paying for it now.
>>739370759Funny how you post that pic and how well it applies to the original and not the remake.In the original the chase for sephiroth is aimless as fuck, you get some "uh, there was this dude on a cloak that passed through here". In remake/rebirth, they make the remark that the robed clones are connected to sephiroth and thats why the party is chasing them around. In fact, every single territory has an explanation on why you got there. As for "lets do sidequests", thats just classic JRPG gameplay, i dont know why you pretend this only applies to rebirth.
>>739365407What the fuck are you talking about? Both things are cancer and ridiculously fucking gay.
>>739370994You did not play the game.
>>739371418You dont get a single sense of direction until you get to nibelheim and Sephiroth guides you to...something since he just tells you to keep going until Cid tells you "hey guys, temple of the ancients!".In fact, FF7 just does what old ps1 / snes rpgs used to do, which was "you just travel, get to a place, solve a problem and then move on".
>>739365407Nigga just make a normal Metaphor thread instead of this ragebaiting you have with FF
E33 raped and gaped both of these games btw
>>739372006not with that shitty act 3 and terrible balance.
>>739365407As an enjoyer of both. One is a remake, and the other is a unique original title. I see a clear winner here with Metaphor.
>>739372221>not with that shitty act 3 and terrible balance.but enough about Metaphor
Metaphor was slop but still BTFO FFdemake or E(((333)))
>>739367059FF7 OG is 40 hours longFF7 Rebirth is 100 hours long
>>7393654071. Metaphor attempted a more nuanced yet obviously darker story than both FF and past Atlus titles. Personally I think it did not succeed because it's still fucking Atlus. People just ate this shit up anyway.2. It was heavy on style over substance, using UI artistry, strong musical core, deliberately tuned voice acting, etc, to cover how the game is still another persona game with all the same issues.3. Unironically, outside of FF7 mega fans, the majority of people are getting tired of Square FFs. FF has been a partially stagnant and divisive series for the past decade, and the fact that their best selling entries in recent memory are just remakes of their best selling game shows how people are losing faith.4. Metaphor, at least in terms of IP, was something new and 'fresh' compared to a remake that's previous entry was 'deeper than thou time ghost reset the series' slopthere's probably more but I can't think off the top of my head.
>>739365407It's fun and doesn't butcher an original like Rebirth.
>>739367624how do you think she feels knowing God took the eraser tool to her ass for some arbitrary reason
>>739367149Everything in metaphor makes me see the game they set out to make that they turned into persona when development wasn't going well, like the gauntlet runner that was obviously meant to be a classic jrpg vehicle that opens up the world instead of some shit you teleport out of every night for social links
>>739372221>I didn't understand the simple story of E33 That's dumb.
