>released 24 hours ago>already forgotten
dwarfs are kind of like muslims, making playable female dwarfs is an affront to their culture so I can't support woke nonsense like that
not looking good bros
>>739386581Like, dwarfs are supposed to be kind of ugly, but in a cool way. The creature front in center is just ugly in an enraging way.
>>739386767yeah there was no fucking reason to put disgusting troon dwarfs in the game other than jews thought the first game was making men happy
>Dwarfs are like Muslims What are Dwarfs know for?Oh that's right Drinking.
I hear the loot system is frustrating and stupid. Combined with the disgusting female creatures this game looks like a pass from me.
What went wrong?
Shouldve made DRG2 instead
>>739386581>>739387117They finally admitted after one year and more of alpha tests that fundamentally the game has three huge problems (and the first two points were already made crystal clear before.)I don't expect Rogue Snore to be even decent until late 2027 at this point. That also means that actual DRG won't be touched by GSG until then because the team will be too busy fixing this mess of a game that was already eating away DRG's development in Season 5 and 6.
>>739387178it's not that fucking complicatedleave the timer alone, people should get good and shut the fuck uplet each person pick from their own list of upgrades and guns, your idea was bad deal with itincrease the max ammo thereby increasing the amount of ammo picked up on each refillPROBLEM FUCKIN' SOLVED IDIOT FUCKING RETARDSHOW FUCKING STUPID CAN YOU POSSIBLY BETHIS PATCH WOULD TAKE LITERALLY TEN MINUTESFUCKINGMORONS
>>739387872Sorry but that's too easy to fix
lol
>>739386581>most of the DRG's word-of-mouth marketing is about class memery and rock and stone shenanigans>fuck it completely upmight as well put playable elves there if they are that oblivious as to why no-one wanted females dwarves
can I still get a refund with 5hrs played
>>739388524...
YOU JUST KNOW some people are going to try making male mods for the two food classes and YOU JUST KNOW they are going to get banned from the in-game mod support service.
>>739386581Reddit and stone!
>>739387178>completely disregard feedback for three years>suddenly care when the mixed reviews and mediocre sales roll inThe success of DRG really went to their heads. Fuck these guys.
>host alt+f4s>don't get any XP
>>739386581what a shame.DRG is one of the greats.
>>739386581These characters look AI generated.
>>739389313I crashed. Im sowwy. It's a foolish mechanic either way. Why doesn't it just swap hosts?
>>739386581we wuz dwarves n shit, nigga
>>739386581>that thumbnaildo you even need an explanation why? lmao
>>739386697>lost 50% of its playerbase in 24 hoursooooferino
>>739387872nooo it's just because of female dwarves, trannies, leftoids and le fall of le west!! they lost and are very mad!
>>739386697if 20k is the floor not bad but it will go to 5k in a week
>>739390007Well to be fair even though I am correct about the changes that need to be this is also me >>739386903both are true, disgusting troons and retarded decisions go hand in hand or neck in rope or whatever the best analogy is
Why are shared upgrade choices a problem in this game but not Rabbit & Steel?
>>739386581>rogue like>teamates are absolute retards>classes locked to gender>danesNo thanks
>>739389760I will not be purchasing this game because:>I DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH NIGGERS
>>739390007>Georgia Floydbeard front and center>Gender locked classes so you can’t just ignore troon dwarves even if you want toPlug your ears all you want but these things will dissuade people from picking it up just as much as any gameplay fumbles.
AHHH YES.....ANOTHER FOR MY COLLECTION
>>739389760You know, if they wanted to make female dwarves fine, but why the fuck do they all look like they're apart of some feminist movement, they look fucking hideous.
>>739386581It’s fun just half-baked. If they actually listen to feedback it could be a very good game
>>739389760>muh girl boss but extremely uglyWhen will game devs learn?
>Deep Reddit Galactic will lose players as this game pulls them away>Original d-reddit-g will die due to lack of players>people will quit this in a week and both will finally never be posted againyes... yes... thank you im glad i could help
>Entire focus of the game is combat>Moving up to D3 or even D2 completely cucks you and you'll spend more time using the pickaxe than your actual gun
>>739390445>>Deep Reddit Galactic will lose players as this game pulls them awaynobody is dropping DRG for this crap LMAO
>>739390508correct, they're dropping it all on their own for fun video games>10k on the weekendequivalent to a dead private mmo server lmao
>>739390445we all did it together brother........ by doing nothing.....
>>739390508I love DRG, friend bought this, told me not to bother
I'm guessing they knew the game was incomplete (even for EA standards) and fucking shit but they still pushed out the door because cash was running low.They got their discord and reddit troons to brigade the reviews and bring them up to mostly positive to hopefully squeeze some more money
>>739390707People have been complaining about ammo, shared upgrades and the timer since the early closed alphas over a year ago and they didn't fix shit beforee EA release.It will take at least a year and a half before the 3 main pain points are addressed at this rate don't bother until 2028
>>739390796>It will take at least a year and a half before the 3 main pain points are addressed at this rate don't botherfixed your post, you're welcome!
>>739390821This game has potential. Not as much as DRG and it is intentionally kneecapped by the straight tunnel with no verticality to cave generation they kneecapped themselves with but with enough patches it can at least be something you play for 20 or 30 hours and be done with it.The core of the game is flawed but if they fix enough stuff and put enough make up on the pig they can make it fun at least for a bit.That's worth it to pick up on sale for 10 bucks in 2028 at least.
Just buy Endless Alice instead.
>>739390974not when 20 other titles exist and are planned over the next few years, everyone (re: suits/investors) is noticing that 4 player coop games generate good revenue, good for streamerbait, are not saturated, and are a natural swap for extraction-shooter pvp exhaustionthis title is DOA, even without the nigger on the front of the box, the most you could hope for is they go back and fix original drg
Makes sense. Every new season in DRG introduced more bad shit than good. The last few were particularly bad about it.
Games takes way too fucking long you do the tutorial and 2 D1 runs and you're already out of the refund window. No way to give it a fair shake unless you want to knee jerk react and refund after the first game.Slimy fucks.
>>739391215Yeah, its a tactic to abuse the extremely fucking short refund window, it basically only exists in case you bought something your integrated GPU can't run. In an ideal world, the refund window would be 10 hours, enough for a full day of game before you decide if its a keeper or not.
>>739391420That's nonsense and I hate Steam more than anyone else.
>>739391420>the refund window would be 10 hourshmm that would kill the entire short duration indie depression scene because you cou....anon you're a genius
>>739391215If this game is as awful with randoms as it sounds I can see why they would be heavyhanded with the onboarding experience, dumping totally lost noobs into public lobbies would make it even worse.
>>739391538It isn't, the types of people who play online PvE games are just utterly dogshit retards who throw a tantrum if everything doesn't go exactly the way they want. Literal MMO cancer 50 DKP minus retarded niggers.
>>739387178I played the FIRST closed beta test and complained about these three things, then dropped the game to wait for them to fix them. How have they not fixed it yet.
>>739391538The onboarding experience is shit and only explains the controls and basic bitch mechanics you could figure out by bashing your head against the keyboard.It doesn't teach anything actually useful like not touching events unless everyone agrees because that's an insta wipe 90% of the time, it doesn't explain boss mechanics, it doesn't explain enemies and their weakpoints, it doesn't even give any basic examples of upgrade synergies.It's fucking bad and somehow it takes half hour.
>>739391661never had this issue in DRG
>>739386697How's DRG in comparison?
Why would I play this over deeprock deep dive?
>>739391759I have never played a single match of DRG and even I know that people shitting themselves because you didn't do exactly what they wanted happens in every single game like this.
>>739391858no it literally doesn't happen in DRG even in haz5 which is the highest difficulty
>>739391846because you aren’t a bigot and support trans dwarf rights
>>739391518It's a thing just like developers front loading their game until the 2 hour mark and then it turns to shit.>>739391858That doesn't happen in DRG though the design decisions made in Rogue Core are going to make it like that.
>>739391897>>739391965absolute rose tinted glasses utter fucking bullshityou could have said "DRG has a good community and it's rare" or something else honest and I'd have agreed with you but you had to lie. Go fuck yourselves dishonest trash.
>>739387178>YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND OUR VISIOOOON REEEEEEEEReminder it was sitting at mixed reviews until the devs told everyone to brigade it and even then it's slowly sliding back into mixed sitting at exactly 70% positive
>>739392079>brigadekill yourself or just go back, either way fuck off forever
>>739392073its true thought. 500 hrs played
>>739392152>liar doubles downokay whatever nigger stop talking to me
>>739391819honestly pretty impressive for an almost decade old game
>>739392219okayhave a good day
>>739388818It didn't work ;_;
>>739392292retard-kun…
>>739387178>We don’t want to just rush out a knee-jerk panic fix for these things. It’ll take a second for us to reflect on how to improve them, and then to build and test those improvements. It’s not an overnight fix, but it is our main focus right now.How is it a knee jerk panic fix when alpha testers complained about these issues over a year ago?
>>739392374Should have directed your concerns to the discord where they perma ban you for criticizing the devs, chud.
>>739391858>I have never played a single match of DRGIt's obvious you haven't because DRG players don't act like that, the game is too well designed for it.
>>739392428lol
>>739386581I would have preferred if they kept the running "female dwarves are indistinguishable from males" joke they had going on.
>>739392370I genuinely thought that refund policies for EA titles would be much looser than full on released games. Especially ones with a lot of controversy on their release days.I know anything under 2hrs is auto-accepted but I've heard a lot of people managed to get refunds when they had up to 20+ hrs playtime or something with good reasons.I thought a game being shit and unfun was a good reason.
>>739392510>liar doubles downokay whatever nigger stop talking to me
>>739392292>>739392370they gave me a refund for PoE2 after 3 hours playtime
>>739392590I've never played any DRG game where some random starts having a fit over someone else not playing correctlyFuck, even when the driller keeps detonating the scout, no one throws a bitch fit
>>739392682Lucky you. I was a bit warry when poe2 came out so I didn't buy it and I tried it during the free week-end. Took me about 4hrs to beat act1 and give up on the game.
>>739392719On the flipside I've already seen 3 different sword guys complain about friendly fire when they keep randomly jumping around like crackheads and getting in front of everyone.Yeah bro I'm just going to read your mind and predict you're going to jump the shit I'm currently shooting and get in front of my gun.
>>739392787I told them I wasted my time fiddling with the settings and looking up builds.
>>739392576The underpaid indian who reviewed your request just didn’t give a fuck.As far as I know it’s completely arbitrary with this kind of thing, sometimes they will be insanely lenient and other times you’re screwed.
>>739392945>indian>underpaidHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANOT POSSIBLEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>739392945I put it like 40mins ago. I don't think it's indian running the helpdesk right now.
>>739392073They're baiting you btw
>>739393094Bold assumption that the company which jewed the entire video games industry isn't entirely staffed by indians.
>>739393257welp, they got me
>>739393094be anal about it and they'll give in
>>739391897It absolutely does happen just not as often as other shooters. It's usually when shit hits the fan and people die, dead guy yaps a lot, very distracting, destroys morale, dead dwarves dead lobby. Rinse and repeat. Coincidentally they've all been scouts my last several matches. All gaslighters.
>>739391858I have 350h in DRG and had less than 5 bad experiences with randoms.I know it sounds hard to believe nowadays when every multiplayer community is full of flamers and griefers, but that's how the original DRG community is.
>>739393634>flamers and grieferskek the faggot in your lobbies is you
I watched a friend I usually play DRG with try RC solo a bit and it seemed like a more boring and tedious DRG. Every room, every floor felt the same.The upgrades feel lackluster. I can already see the meta being stacking crit and damage on a single weapon, with half the funs being considered a wash because you only got shitty starting weapons.It was only like 2h and I already find Omega annoying.I don't mind the idea of female dwarves but I hate Falconer's voice. Dunno about the other. Fuck them for gender-lockign classes. If they don't change this I bet it'll be one of the first mods.I hate that the unlocks menu uses that ugly ass female chud face.The calories system for the bar is such an antifun design.The built-in survey not having a choice for the classes is an obvious indicator that they don't intend to change anything about it.
>>739393634I've only had one bad one. A scout got upset because he wanted molly monopoly then crashed out in chat going like "OH SOOOO THAT'S HOW IT IS"Called 5 resupply pods super far off the map and then disconnected. We still beat the missions and I was laughing more than getting upset but that's really the only bad experience I had in the game in 350hrs as well.
>>739393832scout should have dibs on molly unless your driller is based and uses TCF like me. he's scout after all.
>>739393964I don't think it's fair to expect this for regular haz 5. Maybe if you're running modded lobbies and you need super meta loadout it's whatever but the hardest diff I played is Haz 5 with 2x speed and 2x bugs so definitely not hardcore level player here.
>>739393634>>739393832I have 698hrs in DRG and I've never had any bad experiences in a match because of the great game design, usually I meet a lot of cool guys and we sometimes meet up in real life and have cookouts and watch adult films and always say ROCK AND STONE it's pretty cool.
>>739393746They’re banning people on the forum for asking about gender locked classes. When mods go live count on them delisting any that try to replace the fem models. They are being very bizarrely anal retentive about it.
>>739386581>Early AccessNo it didn't release.
>>739394103Yeah it's because the entire intention was to purposefully poison something that men were enjoying.
>>739386581What the fuck is that?
>>739390129Rabbit & Steel doesn't make you take turns, you all just grab what you want immediately and then it resolves overlapsThere's also not really tiers of upgrades for R&S so it's not like everyone often wants the same one because it's objectively better (with some exceptions I guess)R&S also by its design always puts everyone in the same place as the upgrades at the same time so you don't have to wait for people to come runningSame reasons why the system also works in Slay the Spire 2 by the way
>>739386581I have ~10 hrs on it, I think its pretty fun, but the difficulty is overtuned by a handful of reasons. You absolutely need a full team of 4 to have a chance in finishing missions on the lower depths, the games timer mechanic fills up to the reaper worms way too fucking fast. The rock shark boss with the twister move fucking blows dick just for the stupid soillennial game design of having to make it ram into a rock pillar just to get the ball everytime. A lot of guns that are equivalent to dollar store water pistols in terms of usefulness. The game does peak when you have a competent team and have busted builds set up though.
Played during the invite beta.Honestly issue wasnt even the upgrade fighting or anything, the issue is it just isnt very fun.I sort of thought the entire time I might as well just play deep rock instead
>>739386581I played one round of the closed alpha and knew this was going to be ass
>>739386697>at least 50 thousand people fell for itthis is why every corporate game publisher is chasing old IPs and sequels, they are a guaranteed return on investment no matter how shit the product is
>all this schizoposting and steam chart oogling>look inside>it's just incels seething about female models existing and them not being stellar blade copypastes
>>739395212yawn, shit bait
>>739386581Annoying low QI faggos on /v/ will blame women but it's really that no one asked for a rogue like DRG.
>everything I disagree with is bait>REEEEE THEY PUT FEMALES IN SPECIFICALLY TO TORMENT ME
>>739386903Would you be offended at any women dwarf entering the roster or is it that it's not some hottie nanako that you can enjoy while jerking off?
>>739395325yawn, shit bait
>>73939521290% of the thread isn't this. There is NOTHING this game does that DRG doesn't. It could have been a paid expansion mode that I might actually have played for regular game unlocks. I have no carrot on the stick.
>>739395491I really don't understand why it isn't a free expansion mode with more cosmetics to buy. Like say, cosmetics to make some of the characters not be trannies.
>>739395212(you)
I played a match and this happened somehow
>>739395453I'm offended that you think I'm reading your yawn-inducing shit bait. I read that first part at a glance, couldn't help it. If you keep your yawn-inducing shit bait posts to about five words I'll accidentally read more of them.
>>739388457i dont play rogue core but this actually seems potentially pretty good, thinking of normal DRGfor example, you can freeze like 10+ enemies around you and start hitting melee on a large enemy for a decent double damage, combined with bonuses like SYIH or beer buff it could get quite huge. But i have no idea how good melee is in rogue core
>>739395671What's the point of even responding? Do you just want to bump the thread? I know you aren't that Anon, you're >>739395246, >>739395454, obviously.
>>739395791Well obviously I got baited but I'm trying to be cool and pretend I didn't.
>>739387178>Roguelike game is shit. In other news grass is green.ITS REALLY FUCKING SIMPLE! WE GET UNLIMITED AMMO OR REMOVE THE TIMER! Why do we need a timer if ammo exists? We already have a resource that restricts how long we can stay in one area. The shits retarded. Also unironicly murder the retard who thought a draft selection process was the right way to go for perk selection.
>>739395591Because money.DRG wasn’t paying the bills anymore, cosmetic DLC only goes so far and the game is old as dirt at this point and not really bringing in fresh players.
>>739396005Well damn, they fucked up badly then. Another s&box or marathon situation where everyone who saw it told them right away that they were making a mistake and they suicided straight head anyway.
>>7393918581K hours, it literally does not fucking happen in DRG. it is the most chill coop game of all time and i mean it, even max haz5+ lobbies are full of cool dudes
>>739396384the worst shit that ever happens in drg randos is people spamming pings or double dipping on ammo
>>739392225>Healthy heartbeatThat is pretty damn good
>>739396384I've got 1200+ hours and honestly the DRG community and GSG are the best things that have happened to me, I have a long lengthy jerk just thinking about how rock and stone things really are
>Played it for eight hours straight the first day>sink another six the nextGood game
>>739396898Yeah, DRG is good. RC on the other hand...
>>739396985No, that's RC, I have over 2k hours in DRG.
>>739386581just one look at that dei bullshit "female" and I don't want to even touch that shit
>>739387178They forgot about classes being locked to gender. Those female dwarfs are one of the most hideous characters in video game history. Also how is the game the same price as DRG? Greedy motherfuckers.
>>739397798pretty much my thoughts
>>739391858>I have never played a single match of DRGCouldn't have guessed.
>>739386581make shit, get hit
I'm falling asleep just looking at this
>>739398392on the front page of their sub there is a troon defending classes being locked to different sexes. no I am not joking. I will undoubtedly be banned for the comment I made under that post too.
>>739387872No you don't understand, if they admit the players are right they will look bad!
>>739386913>he thinks Muslims don’t drink>he thinks Muslims follow any of their made up rules seriously when in the privacy of their own homes
>>739398837pork is the only one they take seriously (for some fucking reason), every other "vice" is fair game as long as you don't get caught (god is not watching apparently)
>>739398739I have been checking their posts on steam from the last few months and you barely see them showcasing the female dwarfs, for obvious reasons. Not many people want to play as something like that.
>>739398598Omg wazukyan hiiiiii :D
>>739399001They should be sexy.There is no point in adding female characters if they do not exist for me to oogle at while mining rocks. Simple as.
I like this one :) a shame that apparently there is no DLC for android but goddam it is fun, its been a while since i got so obssesed with a mobile game.
>>739399387bozo file laugh at this dude
Took a quick peek at their reddit. Died of cringe.
>>739399447the copy and paste...whatever happened there?
>>739391858That never happens in L4D2, DRG, Helldivers or Vermintide. The only one I can think of is Darktide but that shitpile is dead thankfully.
>>739398748It's fucking insane that this >>739398670 shit is actually 2000 words long to deliberately try to hide that their answer for all of "the big three" is that they aren't going to change itwhat the fuck are they thinking? I thought they were Danes, are they seriously just mostly jews doing that thing where they seethe and refuse to change if goyim correct them?
>>739399303This wouldn't make sense as they are all in combat armor but there is a difference between a funny dwarf lady and a fugly gross tranny
GSG really made the Nightreign of Deep Rock Galactic games
>>739391021>buy a game that substitutes sex appesl for gameplayNo thanks. I can just jerk off and then play good games instead
>>739399001I just dislike that for being the team of "professional miners", the reclaimers just look like a bunch of chumps wearing random shit slapped together on their torsos and heads. Fuck, one of my Gunners is what I envision when I think about a seasoned Dwarf working for DRG.
>>739398670They don't need to change a thing, currently it's perfect, the tension of either giving mercy to your teammates or grabbing your own upgrade is fantastic, especially watching them 'heart' it and squirm. Timer is fine, just get good at all times. Ammo Economy??? Not even an issue, use your kit wisely
>>739399694The design philosophy between the miners and reclaimers is like comparing the TF2 mercs and Overwatch characters.
>>739399910Yeah but at least I can fap to the Overwatch girls
What is the point of making a female and then making her ugly as sin? Men are valued for their status and work done. Women are valued for their looks and support. When was the last time women were valued for their status and work done over their looks?
>>739399597Nightreign is fun
>>739399954>When was the last time women were valued for their status and work done over their looks?Good question. Women don't work in dangerous jobs. That's 99% men.
I hope the game, all Roguelike games, and the niggers who defend them die.
coomers share responsibility for this fuck up for they too advocated for female dwarfs
I don't think anybody asked for ugly female dwarfs and them being locked to classes
>>739399954Have you ever heard of dwarven women? They're described in multitudes of fantasy as being nearly identical to dwarven men. They're stout, strong, and can fucking grow beards lmfao. That's why dwarves are nearly always smitten by beauty and hold it in such reverence.I've literally never seen or heard of hot a dwarf woman in any sci-fi or fantasy.
>>739400148Worse, gooners were unironically asking for shit like goblins and elves. This is why AGP sex addicts need to be bullied more these days.
>>739400230it's never my fault too! what are the odds!
>>739400283There is a reason why female dwarfs are one of the least played races in MMOs even when they are decent looking. Nobody would care if the classes weren't locked to gender, i think the devs are just retarded and they cant even admit that because of muh culture war
>>739398670>Uuuh yeah we can go back to DRG once we release RC as most of the work will be doneYeah man, sure. This shit wouldn't be so bad if it was a roadmap for the fucking alpha instead of early access.
>>739398670Their lack of focus on the basic game structure is going to cost them.Crazy how quickly goodwill can burn.
>>739399529>are they seriously just mostly jews doing that thing where they seethe and refuse to change if goyim correct them?the problem is this is a very euro thing to do, especially a scandinavian country
>>739400283It doesn't matter about the lore, people aren't gonna pick them for simple reasons. They just aren't appealing to anyone and that's why every game with them, they are always the least played race. Unless its an asian mmo like Lineage 2 or Archage that just made them waifu jailbait.
>>739386697Weekend bounce?Why didn't they release it on a Friday, or is this how you normally release (good) things to get weekend hype?
>original DRG has no cinematics of any kind, just load up the game and start playing>rogue core took it upon itself to launch with 2 unskippable cinematics>1 is a camera pointed at the lead dev in his studio, yapping about early access>the other is to put the FEMALE dwarf, who looks like an abomination, front and centerif there were just female dwarves without any of this forced prostrating of the player to their presence, I could have let it pass with just an eyeroll, but something like that is SQUARELY in insufferable virtue signaler territory. the kind of soulless faggots that churn out shit like dustborn just to do everything they can to rub their wokeness in the audiences faces.
>>739400283the underlying problem with that is no one wants to play as an ugly woman no matter the context or "lore", fucking no oneif it's a "no they HAVE to look hideous it's ACCURATE" thing then it never should have been on the table to begin with
So is anyone here actually playing the game or just seething about muh ugly foid dwarves
>>739399529You weren't kidding they didn't address any of the complaints.
>>739400915Even worse that they've been actively ignoring the complaints since the closed tests
>>739400809>I have to watch a 30s cutscene, of which the female dwarf is in frame for TWO SECONDS>this game is UNPLAYABLEanon I think your diaper is full
>>739400863I played 15 hours since release I had fun but I feel like I've had enough. I just hate knowing it will be days before I see something similar to that cool freeze AoE build I had going on last game and I will have to scrap something together that will involve picking health because I don't want to pick 1% extra melee damage per frozen enemy within 5 meters.
>>739386581i have roguememe fatigue
>>739391858That kind of raging only happens when the team loses, but DRG is so piss easy it's almost impossible to lose if you have at least 1 competent player so raging is rare.
>>739399001I dont understand how they fucked this so badly. There isnt 1 thing about this game that looks good visually or mechanically. On the bright side, DRG2 soon. Otherwise the studio will close.
everything about it felt weirdly lower budget than DRG, despite using DRGs assets for the most part. Character designs and models just felt so half-baked from a conceptual standpoint, the fact that weapons and traversal tools are agnostic to your class just makes picking classes feel completely pointless, shared upgrades are whatever, I played and loved crystal chronicles which did a similar thing BUT gave every player their own objective for scoring points with the points determining the order for selecting rewards at the end of a level (also cumulative points determined the quality of rewards), HOWEVER, requiring every player to huddle up to select upgrades is lame as hell. having the order be random is lame as hell. having the spread of weapons and upgrades be so imbalanced that it's entirely possible for a player to never get a primary weapon is RETARDED. refunded after the first mission because it was just so painfully unfun. they already solved timers in DRG, just make enemies spawn faster and faster until you're overwhelmed. that's the ENTIRE point of their being finite ammo. finite ammo+timer is unnecessary, pick a fucking lane.
>>739399524Happens routinely for me in Vermintide thougheverbeit. Atleast once in a several hour play session I deal with the entire team dying on Cata and then they play 20 questions on why they keep dying.I've had a Saltz join on WP, leave thinking it was class pick to swap to WHC, then die to a basic skaven horde. Worst part is you can't kick these mongrels despite being the host of the lobby. Dudes shouldn't even be on Legend, let alone Cata difficulty.
>>739401294I only play chaos waste so maybe im biased but people are super chill
their discord seems full of fags
>>739401532Every DRG community is incredibly fag coded both reddit and discord
>>739401532>marathon tagKek
>>739401532It is.It's too overbearing with its rules, the mods are somewhat selective and they have too many hidden rules to be doing the shit they do.All the chats are the same slop because the game is kind of stagnant for content.I used to be one of the VIP piss-colored people and the dev/mod talk in their circlejerk chat was pretty insipid. The most egregious thing was one of the other VIPs getting on HRT (tranny) and constantly posting about how horny they were because of it, nothing happened. Also one of them has cropped porn and the mods don't have the awareness or don't care. I wasn't a janny so I didn't care. They chose me out of the bunch for some reason.
>>739401532Their discord is notoriously gay and they ban any dissenters. Smee is probably banned now.
>>739401843not yet, that's my next trick
>>739401532Comparing numbers is gay but such a huge drop-off in just a couple of days and on the verge of the weekend is not a good sign especially since they just came out and said that the things everyone disliked aren't getting changed immediately.
Every single thing in this game seems to be at odds with each other and I just don't understand whyIt's more combat focused and you will be shooting a lot but there's a class with a gap closer and an AoE melee slash perfectly designed to get in front of you and eat shit because you threw a grenade into a cluster of enemies which he also wanted to kill.It's more combat focused but once you get out of D1 ammo becomes super scarce.Terrain is easier to travel but there's still chasms you literally can't get out of on your own if you picked the flare gun.I just don't get it
>>739401991The game could have worked if they started from scratch instead of apeing off of DRG.
>>739389001I'm tempted to>buy game>write review: "we fucking told you so.">refund hame
>>739401481Me too, all of what I said was based off of Chaos Waste lobbies.
>>739395731There's no cyrocanon that can freeze things reliably.
>>739400863Playing while checking in between runs, no point in posting when it's just people repeating themselves ad nauseam
>have a good game>you have 2 choices >continue hard work and effort to refine it>or cater to the reddit audience Shame man. DRG was hitting fucking strides before the season updates. I'm not buying this shit.
>You have to do the gay workout routine to get a beer because muh cico>They don't even have gameplay effects anywayWhat the fuck happened to dorfs being merry and jolly with a giant beer gut?
>Bronze Drillah joins our game>Downs me twice with C4s right next to my ass>Gets mad at me (Gunner) for not killing Oppressors (???) despite him having Cryo Cannon AND axes in his loadout>Leaves our game before we all call him a tardPantsy.
>>739401532Kek, all that seethe. But yeah, playercount is pretty pathetic for a new release going into the weekend. DRG has 300k reviews. That drop in interest is huge. They just took too long to make it and the main game also suffered because of that.
Can't wait for them to rebound in a year back to base DRG and start adding the roguecore weapons and stuff to it to save face.unfortunately they'll probably force fem dawi into DRG too eugh
>>739399760yoks on you. i pick trash upgrades on purpose to flex on faggots
>>739398968>pork is the only one they take seriouslylike every other week you get a story about muslims selling pork labelled as goat or horse or whatever to other muslims and mysteriously no one noticing until some health inspector waltzes in and arrests them for scamming.they really don't give a shit about any of their religious rules outside of the ones allowing them to fuck their ten year old cousing
>>739393439Scout "mains" are literally the biggest trash cans in DRGI ban multiple scunts in my lobbies and i pick the class so no one else can because i know how the fucking flare gun works
>>739390007>it's not the aesthetics, the game is losing because it's bad!Why not both?
>>739390352Because they're blue collar dwarves. If you ever met a woman who works blue collar, she is an ugly bitch.Also dwarf.
>>739403029the issue is the team falls apart fast without a competent scout. dark caves = glyphids and spitters raping you, plus nitra is a bitch to get as driller
>>739386581never heard of it
>>739387872Timer should have a bigger impact, ammo economy is fine, only the boss is a slogfest.I do think the ammo drop pod was a much more elegant solution though
It's insane to me how people complained so long and they just... didn't care? Did all that reddit chungus circlejerking make them think they were untouchable? lolI mean the fact they put out a supporter pack in drg right before sunsetting updates (this was years before the outsourced season) should've made it clear how far up their heads were, but cmon
>>739401646I fondly remember reddit complaining about lobbies containing the Nigger word.
>>739403029My two haz5 matches I can rightly recall>gold scout joins our heavy extraction>we fight one swarm>immediately calls resupply pod>we're actually pretty good on ammo though, not even 2 bars in across the board>not good on nitra>much later>digging out last jawbreaker>hiveguard shows up>keeps digging the jawbreaker>SWARM SWARM IT'S A BIG ONE>hits the button>we all die from all the bugs and the dreadnought camping our corpses>scunt dies at the podnext game>different scunt, similar gold rank>drilldozer>isn't lighting cave>isn't shooting spitters>isn't shooting the shit mortar bugs hiding behind terrain>dies on the drilldozer during meteors>"gunner. shield??">throws shield>doesn't stop the meteors>we all die from spitters and shitbugs trying to keep dotty and ourselves up
>>739399954>Women are valued for their looks and support.Mostly for their ability to do the one thing men cannot (alone). Produce young. Who are then valued for their ability to work the field.>>739400283>They're described in multitudes of fantasy as being nearly identical to dwarven men.Such as? LotR? Anything else? MMOs and fantasy games with female dwarfs remove the beard and usually make them appealing to look at rather than what Rogue Core did.
>>739401532>Extreme Boyheat>lmao look at this loser watching playercounts instead of reading a bookI feel like this is the kind of person you don't want in your game's official discord
We wuz dorfs n sheeeit
>>739403951A gorilla wars were fought over
>>739403149incorrect. the scout is literally useless if the other players are good at the game as every other class has significantly more CC and DMG and support tools than a scout. a "good" scout can basically just throw out flares and mine roof nitra and stay out of everyone's fucking waythe problem is the shit ones blow all their ammo trying to DPS, never flare and hook shot around being fucking useless then use 2 supply pod charges like the assholes they are
>>739386663>you're woke if you don't respect MuslimsYou got some things mixed up lil bro
>>739386581Its extremely bare bones and has awful design choices. The entire game is a single mission of deep rock.
>>739390283Anon.. check your calendar. Where have you been for two years?
>>739404179a good scout actually prioritizes high value targets thanks to his superior weakpoint damage output.this alone frees up the other 3 dwarves to focus all of their firepower on mulching the group instead of trying to snipe a problem enemy while they're already neck deep in glyphidsbad players will make any class look retarded. it's just a lot easier to tell when you have a bad scout because you can't see past your own dick
Playing around with the new weapons and classes really just makes me wish it was DRG 2 with dedicated builds and upgrades.Maybe one day...
>>739403592Fags and women cant understand how guys actually interact with each other when there isn't some feminized HR shit trying to ruin their lives.
>>739405193The new weapons and some of the abilities are about the only things I enjoyed. Everything else sucks.
>>739405193REEEEE YOU WILL PLAY THE DEV'S VISION AS THEY INTENDED AND YOU WILL LIKE IT STOP BEING ENTITLED
Can't even clear a D2 it's impossible to carry in this game like you could in DRG even haz5 I had no issues carrying people
>>739389001They were always the heckin based devs that listens to the players. Guess they threw that out of the window.
>>739405393They listen to the discord and reddit cock suckers they all think the game is fine and perfect as it
>>739405434Discord and Reddit cocksuckers have been telling them they fucking hate the ammo economy, shared upgrades and the timer for ages now
>>739405193That's a neat animation. Hope to see it in DRG one day.
>They away everything that makes DRG fun>Build an entire enemy faction around the enemy everyone unanimously hated from DRG>Add time limits and extremely scarce ammo pickups for some reason>Surprised pikachu face when everyone hates ithow could this happen to meeeeee
>>739404179>scout can kite>scout can access high up secondary objectives + minerals>scout lights up the room>"Yeah but if you just go DPS..."Just take 4 gunners thenDrillers can't even do boss missions and engineers have no survivability
>>739405578Honestly I hope people can backport Rogue Core stuff into DRG through mods.I've been eyeing the Massive Content Revise mod but I'm not sure how easy it is to find lobbies for it
>>739386581whats that
>>739405193Salvaged seems more hollow because of it. Instead of getting mining facilities back into action, we're fixing baby mules, kinda lame.
>>739386913Their religion also prohibits them from rapingGuess what are they known for
I don't mind the femdwarfs; just feel like their voice is not dwarf-like. When I think about a proper femdwarf voice, I think about the lunch lady from Bully. Atleast with a similar voice they would have some charisma.
>>739405978Seems like they kinda forgot DRG is supposed to be full of blue-collar workers or "roughnecks"
>>739399910I mean one's literally Tracer.
>>739387178>>739398670This doesn't matter.It will never fucking matter.First impressions are the only impressions.Did you know Killing Floor 3 fixed everything people complained about by now? Did you know absolutely nobody went back to update their reviews despite that?The same fate awaits Rogue Core.This game will never succeed.
>>739406131In the trailer I thought it was going to be>oh you hit a button and then you're piloting a hologram whilst the AI ignores where you really are standing and...>... oh it's just tracer
>>739402450This game is not DRG, it is its own game, you cannot judge it based on DRG, please understand.
>>739407373I know DRG was FUN
Would like to see different mission types down the line even if their roadmap didn't mention any. A wave style hold-out mode would work really good in this game compared to DRG for example.
>darktide is shit>helldivers 2 is shit>far far west is too barebones at the moment>burnt out of DRG>this game turned out to be shitwhat coop slop do i play now...
>>739408038Serious Sam the second encounter multiplayer campaign
I'm glad they added female dwarves. Whenever I tried to get my girlfriends into DRG they would lose interest because they couldn't play as women.
>>739408038I'm going to add Nightreign to your list, shits full of nothing but Chinese hackers and the worst Chinese players you've ever seen
>>739408271Skill issue, I play DRG with my gf and she never complained about there not being any girls
>>739408038Darktide plays better than Vermintide because toughness is infinitely better than temp health as an upkeep mechanic, slide dodging is the fucking shit, and most fucking importantly it has client side registration for blocking and staggering enemies. I can never ever go back to Vermintide's server side blocking ever again. Skitarii soon.
>>739408352I just have shit taste in women.
>>739408502>halo shields are better than temporary lifestealEhI can pick up and play vermintide and not really give a shit about how health works, even the choice between upgrades is marginally different because I can just click on the rat's headBut darktide?I need to read a thesis on the theory of what health, toughness, cohesion, ceramite, flak, infested, normal flesh, threat or whatever it's called, manics, why enemies A and B are shoot in the legs but only if you're using guns C and D...
>>739408871You really don't, it's not that complicated.
>>739408871I will never ever claim Darktide is more balanced, it is not, its a fucking mess and high level aurics are straight up bullshit in a way Vermintide has never reached even throughout all of its lifetimes of double special spawns and silent chaos patrols.I like toughness because offering protection up front means you don't need to make a mistake first to interact with it, and it doesn't hyper punish a single lapse in attention by taking away over half your health and then force the rest of the team to never use ranged clearing options ever again because you need your refill constantly. Expecting perfection with no recourse or breathing room at all times is much more exhausting than being allotted one mistake before its anus gape time.It also bears noting that Vermintide's writing, characters, setting, maps, and enemies, are all better than Darktide's by a mile.But the thing is, even if it weren't for this, and despite all things Vermintide does better, I still can't go back to server side blocking and dodging, that is simply way too much of a deal breaker for me.
>>739409136Are you telling me the talent tree isn't complicated?
>>739408038Try Mycopunk. It's pretty movement centric too and dirt cheap. Just gotta try the game before judging its weird AF style.
>>739409781How much multiplayer does Mycopunk require? In Helldivers other people existing doesn't change anything other than sometimes another guy is there next to you, in DRG you can do solo but other people being there enhances the experience exponentially to the point where you're missing out if you don't, and in Darktide its just straight up a miserable afterthought to the point multiplayer is mandatory to have any fun past the first baby mode difficulty.In which of these camps does Mycopunk lie?
>>739408305Nightreign is fun to me, but I'm 9999 and have already tried most possible builds. I've played the more map variations and DS3 weapons mods too. I need content...
>>739392860ThisI had almost three hours on Underrail before I realized it was for minmaxxing autists and not at all a roleplaying game, and I just lied to say that most of the time was spent trying to resolve a graphical issue. Gave me a refuned next day, though YMMV and it's all RNG at the end of the day who you get/what their mood is.
>>739404179>forgetting pheromones (the best throwable in the game)>getting Nitra while the rest of the team focuses on clearing & objectives is bad because others can technically do it too (self-report on never playing Haz 5, EDD's, or with extra-bug modifiers, which are the funnest lobbies)It's okay to be bad at the game—hell, it's co-op for a reason, and I always go out of my way to save that one noob who's got 15 downs when everyone else is booking it for the drop pod—but it's another to act like you're hot shit when you base a lot of your arguments on hypotheticals rather than actuals.I've met no-life NEET scout mains before that grief and lie, sure. I've also met gunner and drillers who did the same. I'm not going to start banning anyone from my lobbies with blue prestiege because I *think* they might be bad. Talk to people and teach them how the game works, and only kick them when they continually refuse to read chat. Autistic retard.t. immediately drops my shit and slingshots to downed friendlies as scout with 700+ hours
>>739409367You can't argue with 90% of Darktide haters, they're stuck in the game launch era even now, and refuse to engage with the game past that. I have about 1000 hours in both Vermintide and Darktide, they're solid games, but I can confidently can say Darktide is the better game overall.Darktide has a higher skill ceiling, better feeling weapons, faster and more engaging combat, etc. This is without taking mods like Dutch Spice from Vermintide into account, Vermintide's content is so fucking boring. If I'm not playing Chaos Wastes I'm unstoppably pushing through hordes on Cata alone, doing basic comboes and never in any real danger. If I'm doing that on Auric I'm dodge sliding past gunners, to get into cover to kill poxwalkers while waiting for the trapper, mutant, and hound to show, with a boss or two also on the horizon. I actually have to position myself with my team and we break into roles to deal with the threats, you only see that in the Chaos Wastes in Vermintide, and even then it's slower and less enaging due to lack of movement options.The only thing Vermintide has better is characters and dialogue, but I'm going to be honest, after 1000 hours I want them to shut the fuck up. I know ALL the lines by heart, and they often cut off call outs or sometimes overlap with special spawns and cause me to get caught out. Same issue with Darktide, but less severe because you have more obvious special tells and ways to counter them.
>>739409381You pick the Blitz aura and skill you want, and you path through it to make your build. And you pick up cool shit you want along the way to the bottom. Are you not able to make choices on your own?
>>739386581Jesus fucking christ that is the ugliest character art I've ever seen
>>739391858>I have never played a single match of DRGFinally, an honest n/v/gger
>>739412896talentslop adds nothing to these games, go back to Nigger of Exile 2
>>73941288410 paragraphs and it all means nothing because havoc is locked to 3 maps and dogshit modifiersvt >>> dt
>>739386697fuck, it's a lot better than i had hoped. i wanted them to suffer for going woke but they probably won't think it mattered putting females in the game (it did).
>>739408038apparently Vermintide 2 has free DLC that adds a roguelite mode
>>739415097imagine being this waste of cells
>>739415247what? you can avoid games for being trans exclusionary, i can avoid games that abandons one of their key identities. don't think you're special.
>>739415013Didn't even mention Havoc in my post because it's sort of slop right now, I agree with you there. My point was moreso that even running Auric Damnations will test you more than Vermintide on Cata. But if you say so, enjoy your slower, easier content.
>>739402776omg heading down to the muzzie dmv right now
>>739387178Couldn't they just add a checkbox to turn this shit on/off? Timer on/offShared upgrades on/offMore ammo on/off>BUT MUH BALANCE!!!!!!!!!!!Fuck off
>>739396595>Healthy heartbeatAfraid that's actually a STEMI anon...
>>739405393They never once listened to the players. Every OC got nerfed until its uniqueness was destroyed. They're obsessed with +2% damage upgrades
>>739406443Didn't it take them half a year to add chat.
>>739393634Near 1k and only had 3 bad experiences. The game is hardly demanding and you can run into haz5 with just about anything.
>>739386581like I said before, its too much like a simple dlc than a fully fledged game. maybe in a couple of years itll be good.
>>739396384>420 hoursThe number of whingers I have played with can be counted on one hand. They do exist, but you're right that they're few and far between.Had one dude that was grunting and groaning in voice chat that we needed to R check before pulling eggs. In a Haz4, lmao. We just ignored him, and every time we pulled another egg or started an event, he'd turn on his mic just to huff and sigh and lament.That was like a month ago and I still remember it because it's such an uncommon scenario.
>>739392292I mean 5 hours is pretty aggressive. that means you've played it for a while.
releasing at the same time as far far west was exceptionally bad luck desu. that game rules
>>739405193I want these guns in DRG.
>>739405765>>739405578>Honestly I hope people can backport Rogue Core stuff into DRG through mods.if there is a way to strip the animation blueprint or whatever from rouge core then technically it can be done.
>>739387872you fail to realize modern games are services, meaning they have to slowly distill updates to justify a monthly salary
>>739416695Sell me on Far Far West. The trailer looked like pure Reddit nonsense and the humour was shite, so I quickly averted my gaze.
>>739404364It's been this way since the 2010s so I don't see the issue
>>739399529The classic developper hubris, we've seen that over and over, especially with scandinavian devs (arrowhead and fatshark do it too).
>>739416997it's just fun. The closest thing I've played to DRG in a while, just faster. I can't imagine anyone who likes DRG or Helldivers wouldn't like it. It is peak soul.
>>739400148>Blaming coomers>Not people with they/them and a tranny flag on their discord profile who have been pestering the devs for years about female dwarves while not even playing the actual game
>>739416937I saw somebody making a mod for the boomstick reload, replacing it with the one from RC.
>>739391215Thats scummy, specially when DRG was all about short, snappy 10-20min rounds. You could at least get a good 5-6 rounds in plus some dicking around in the bar between matches and still come to a conclusion.
>>739391858You're thinking of L4D2 community. Deep rock is relatively chill. Shoot bugs, ask "R?" before whacking the button on an objective, dont double dip on resupplies. Its that simple. Even the Chinese players dont fuck this up, which really says something about a game.
>>739391897>>739393439>>739391858The only autistic screeching that happens is in Haz4. Haz3 is uber casuals and impossible to fuck up. Haz5 and Haz5+ players are gud enough to know what they're doing, and the rare 1-in-50 losses is a "oh? well played" kind of situation. Haz4 players are the ones who complain, cry and piss their pants over literally anythingThey're too good for Haz3 but bad enough that they cant just chill in a Haz5. They chimp out at you for any minor transgression or if you even so much as use an off-meta gun.
>>739420418>The only autistic screeching that happens is in Haz4. My stories came from haz5. Hazard 4 is a given for that player. Those people absolutely exist in haz5, but like most bad games you can count them on your hand. As long as you avoid "those" lobbies it is typically fine.
>>739403121Cool, but do we have to suffer that in video game?
>>739417260I'll blame the people responsible for this which includes (You). shouldn't have screamed 'WE WANT FEMALE DWARFS'.
>>739395212Ah, the "I will pretend to not understand stuff, so I don't have to admit to being wrong" tactic
>you have to fight over upgrades in a co-op gameThat's beyond fucking retarded and the fact that it lasted more than 3 seconds of internal playtesting shows me the devs are colossal retard faggots. Anyone with a double digit IQ would instantly know that is going to be total shit to play with.
>>739399504>tfw a shitty vampire survivors clone might be better than official "expansion"lol
>>739399504>>739421281made by a different studio allowed to wear the skin of DRG. A fun one at that I must say
>>739399524Darktide’s problem is that it has an achievement that requires you to do five of the hardest conventional difficulty missions without dying, which can be cheesed by just quitting the second you go down so you can’t bleed out.It was a necessary change to prevent crashes from fucking people out of the achievement, but it also meant the absolute worst shitters will routinely bail missions until they get carried through five in a row.It’s why the X survivor title is absolutely worthless
>play a public game>3 people around a weapon crate>1 person fuck knows where>can't open the cratethis shit is cooked
>>739419069makes sense. I think both of them are on unreal engine just that rouge core is 5 and drg is 4.
>>739420614Ive got 1700h in mostly Haz5 and 5+ and the shit you're talking about I've only ever experienced in 4s, and nearly always Chinese players.
>>739422558Then you are luckier than me at 3.5k.
>>739421256Not only that, every player has to be present for the upgrades. It's forcing cooperation in the least convenient way. I love DRG but they have no clue what they're doing.
>>739421172I never wanted female dwarves anon. I also never wanted a roguelite spin off and certainly didn't want unreal garbage 5. Fucking shit made my 4070tiS run hotter than stalker 2 despite looking worse than the original deeprock. Good thing I refunded before the 2 hours mark, I can now safely add ghostship games to the list of devs to avoid.
>>739405937having sex with their own father
>>739423340To be fair GSG doesn't have a lot of titles and the ones that aren't deep rock are very mid too.I played Guntouchables on a whim since it was given away and it was a very barebones experience with a very poor upgrade system. I figured if that was their experience with making roguelite games RC would be just as sleep-inducing.There is a similar lack of variety. The only guns worth getting involve upgrading with ice (a random upgrade you might not even get) so you don't get bum-rushed by enemies. Rifles and shotguns are the only weapons really worth using because that's what you start with. Other weapons are mostly there to give more backup ammo/options.There's kamikaze enemies that run really fast and then there's a tankier version of them that either chunks your health or outright kills you on harder difficulties, you can't outrun it so ice is the only way to defend yourself. It is absolutely up to rng if you can play the game once they start spawning and they never fixed it and added trinkets instead. Upgrade distribution isn't reliable enough. Guns are stale.I didn't have any hope for that game, so I didn't have much for RC. Different people maybe, but didn't feel like entertaining it.I also stumbled on this and I guess the writing was on the wall.
>>739423778>I figured if that was their experience with making roguelite gamesGSG didn't make Guntouchables, they only published it like Survivors
>>739423865Yes. I addressed that. There's no need to argue.>Different people maybe, but didn't feel like entertaining it.
>>739393964Hell no, the scunt is the furthest away so Molly would have to walk more. Since he is also the fastest he could just move back to the group
Absolute shame I'll never be able to bitch about this game without the rest of the thread screeching about foids and troons.
>>739386581>Got this today>having fun>retards with no time management are getting checked>at the same time despise that the timer limits me so much and I actually have to lead people by the ear because clearly some of these people are people who could never play on hazard 5 and haz 5 is fucking cakewalk.>the fucking WORMSI dont even sweat in normal DRG but this game is NOT for people who cant handle high pressure situations because you cannot fucking sit back and chill. the only other major issue I have is that Two of the 5 classes are kinda fuckin boring. falconer and Spotter are kinda lame with Falconer being the lamest because the bird is simply not as impressive atleast spotter is great for murdering big things like those fucking shooting eyeball things that can come in groups.
>>739424482>because the bird is simply not as impressiveIt's good at getting rid of large groups of creepers and I had a run yesterday where the remote revive ability came in clutch and saved it from failure
>>739424482I chose guardian and I have no intention of playing any other class. CC lets me tardwrangle which seems imperative in this game.
>>739424389This and piss babies attacking the "myth" of DRG being heckin wholesome gamerino reddit toxic positivity etc etc etc. So fucking tiresome hearing this stupid shit over and over, especially from those who eagerly admit they never even played DRG, BECAUSE that reputation makes them seethe so much.
>>739425843>piss babiesCan't even get your mask from slipping for one sentence huh?
>>739425843nigga who the fuck uses piss baby? we call them FAGGOTS here are you a fucking redditor?
>>739386581>released>Early Accessnot released
>>739417260Troons are coomers gone too far
>>739386913My grandpa was Muslim and he both drank alcohol and ate pork. Too much, actually, he died from liver issues.
>>739425923Shut the fuck up faggot.
>>739390352>they all look like they're apart of some feminist movement>apartSo this is the intellect of the people who are upset that dwarven women aren't hot.
>>739391858You are wrong, actually.
>>739425843oh careful he said p*ss it's serious now
>nooooooo you can't just say piss baby you have to spam nigger insteadthis is not a serious board
>>739401532that's every official game discord server.
>>739387117Timer sucks, procgen sucks, perks being a single pool that 4 players have to fight over sucks, passives suckThere's some more deeper bullshit>proc gen can put the secondary objectives literally precious minutes (factoring both directions) away through empty fucking hallways.>that dogshit mining objective where the rocks can fall through the map>stringent timer means you're rewarded for splitting up in the team gameI've been absolutely cucked on artifact picks when the only ones left are the shitty fucking doubled edged ones and you're final pick>shitty snow maps that directly hamper your speed severely in a game in which you have to be fast>getting 4 people to huddle around a 5m circle for upgrades>ALL of this shit was complained about in the alphaThese idiots deserve their failure.
>>739427738>armor instead of shields>terrible voice lines>mission control is a cringy, annoying, glitching """ai"""
>female dwarf lolWhy are le based devs virtue signaling all of a sudden after the first major success? :D All game devs truly are faggots.
>>739398837Allah is looking away when they drink and eat pork.
>>739415247Imagine being upset that people have choices, and then being upset when they choose differently than you had wished.
>>739386581it's early access, i'm waiting for actual content.
>>739415097It's not.
>>739427224>nooooo i've been outedkys
>>739428307Based and white.
>>739428016Bought out by Embracer
>DRG threads: "Why no female dwarves?">DRG:RC threads: "WTF female dwarves?"I don't get it.
>>739386581Female dwarfs killed this game.
>>739404223esl
>>739428595Classes locked to gender is the dumbest thing the devs could have done
>>739428816Let me guess, you also think Kingdom Come 2 is woke
>>739428816Ah yes those centrists are being really irrational>"what's wrong with female dwarves">"i hate women">"what the fuck, why don't people agree with me"
>>739429005if a game features fags, jews, and niggers in the story in a non-negative manner then it is woke
Actual centrist here :3I don't want o play as some ugly female dwarf. Just let people select their preferred gender and nobody would care. You would see 90% male dwarfs running around. Instead they locked classes to gender which is retarded same as KF3 locking classes to characters.
>>739428918Oh, sure, I agree.
>>739429167Don't forget women in action roles. That's also woke faggotry.
>>739390007Kill yourself, you retarded faggot.
I wouldn't even know that thing is female, if people not pointing it out
>>739430495Sucks to be you, i never saw anything gay in my 200 hours because i didn't pick that choice in my RPG
>>739387178It wont' save the game. Because classes are gender locked. I can't make "my dorf" so fuck this game.
>>739430696you saw the beginnings of the 'do you want to fuck this dude' dialoge tree with the buttsex symbol next to it
>>739387178I hate corporate HR speak so much. This reads like an Outlook C-Suite work email. The entire gaming industry needs to be purged so the original heavy metal horror movie freakazoid devs are back in control. They knew the right questions to ask when making a game: is this FUN? does it KICK ASS? Instead we have single women PMs in their 30s asking "does the delivery of this new feature address prominent pain points? Are we managing expectations sufficiently to align with our implementation priorities?"
>>739430813Again, sucks to be you, i only saw tits in that game. Which has been become rare in todays gaming world.
>>739430975you saw at least one line that was gay as fuck and you can't slither your way around it.
>>739390429the one that chaffs my cheeks is that there are well known and loved fanart of female DRG miners and if they simply had copied those they would have a chance to escape the swedish dev curse
>>739431027Kek, i don't even remember what it said and neither do you. I think it's one of the best games i have ever played. 9/10.
>>739428203you got the actual content. what follows is updates on hopes of goodwill.
>>739386581>Steam discord friend slop
>>739431779I expected nothing else from someone who starts his posts with kek
>>739428261It clearly is since I stopped being interested in the game. So it mattered. I don't think I'm alone either.
>>739387178>turn your community into a wholesome chungus echochamber where no one is allowed to say anything negative about the game>alpha tests become useless because you cant get sincere player feedback>this happens
I'm noticing pattern. If a game is loved on /v/, but hated elsewhere, or loved everyone but on /v/, it's most likely pretty good.
>>739432768Then perhaps you should go to plebbit where you can enjoy the game with other likeminded fellows
>>739404179autists like you are the reason the lobbies have an option to force no duplicate classes
>>739432730They were given plenty of negative feedback during the year long Alpha which they ignored. GSG is only coming out now because it hit them in the review score. If you look at the roadmap they posted, nowhere does it talk about addressing people's concerns.
>>739404179This post was written by Hazard 3 hands. Scout's bar none the best grenades in the entire game, his primaries are excellent at taking down high-valued targets like wardens or spreaders that usually are a pain in the ass for the average player and his grappling hook + field medic combo can bring back entire downed teams if he knows what he's doing (always revive the Gunner first lads.)Special Powder Boomstick and Cryo Bolts Crossbows are also amazing secondaries that enhance Scout's strongest points too. He can't solo waves but that's a Gunner and Driller job.
>>739391858look at this idiot and laugh
>>739390275Jesus Christ if only you would listen to yourself say this out loud. I am embarrassed in your stead, lmao...The game has so many issues and you are like a doomsayer crying niggers and troons.
>>739434761>If you look at the roadmap they posted, nowhere does it talk about addressing people's concerns.Its right there, now whether or not they actually follow through is another story
>>739386581>released 24 hours agoAre you sure?
Why was Shared Upgrade Negotiations a thingI feel like a lot of upgrades can be ported back to DRG as great co-op perks, not sure why they aren't doing thatAlso Players having ammo economy problems at this stage means the devs weren't playing the game themselves, or at least on a serious level. Since this can be perfectly calculated as Ammo Expenditure per weapon on a spreadsheet.
>>739433102Alright. Go play the game pattern recognizer. By all means please spend your money.
>>739386581It's a>Dev makes a dogshit game that somehow gets ingrained in a couple retarded fucking autists and it makes them think they are hot shitEpisode again
>got into play test>played solo>every floor takes 20+ minutes>upgrades do basically nothing>no reason to explore>timer constantly ticking down>get to final boss>has a shield and 3 blocks of health>no ammo to speak of>shield takes what feeels like 20 minutes to take down>actually no ammo this time>shield refills>fail mission>close game and uninstall>have a ton of feed back from play tests>devs do nothingGood, fuck this game.
>>739437823Yeah, the hate seems outlandish.
>>739428595>opinion A: yes>opinion B: no>wtf the people on this website are contradictory retards!
>>739412884I am not that anon but honestly its nobody's fault but yours that you fell in with the cult of Fatshark. I regret giving money to that company for Vermintide 1 and 2. As long as people like you continue to give them money they will continue the cycle of releasing a game using the previous games engine and reset progress on what they learned from previous game while lying to the fanbase. Which kind of reminds me of whats happening now in DRGs rogue game. Fatshark are notorious liars who claim they want to deal with bugs but actually have a hate boner for whatever the community finds fun. The same way of thinking spread to Arrowhead as well when they lent them their engine with a small team of devs to help them out. Its a disease that keeps spreading and you are encouraging it by claiming that the game is "fun, hard but fair"
I think what's most insulting on top of how much of a wet fart Rogue Core has been is the price.No, this unfinished antagonistic coop game isn't worth DRG's full retail price. And they promise to raise the price once EA is done.Supporter upgrade DLC is kind of par for the course but feels tasteless to be selling at this stage in the game's lack of finishedness.
>>739438875>Supporter upgrade DLC is kind of par for the course but feels tasteless to be selling at this stage in the game's lack of finishednessDid you forget DRG launched into early access with supporter DLC too?
>>739437084These are the things people in the alpha were all complaining about and they did nothing, what even was the point of an alpha then?
>>739439000yes, I specifically said it's par for the course. I'm not surprised by its existence.However, DRG's EA didn't feel nearly as unfinished as RC's EA, despite RC having significantly more of the artpass work done.On a presentation level, RC looks superior to how DRG did at its comparable point in development, but DRG's gameplay felts way more nailed down and player-ready, they just needed to add more to it which they did deliver on.
>>739387178the problem is the game is boring after a while because you run out of upgrades or things to change
Do biomes even do anything in Rogue Core? Enemy variety? Cave generation?
>>739439602The snow map slows your movement speed by like 40% and makes sprinting shitty. The timer, naturally, is completely unaffected.
What the fuck are those characters? DRG had a cool cartoon aesthetic, that shit is Unreal butt ugly.
>>739387178Genuinely would rather get 2 guns or 1 gun + 1 weapon bench rather than a gun + grenade on start. 95% of runs I don't ever even throw my grenade since they're so lackluster and don't scale.
>>739439602>weather (snowstorms, sandstorms, rain, etc)>terrain durability for pickaxe hits>terrain decor (like the ridges in magma core)They removed all of the biome-specific enemies like qronar younglings, nanocytes, trawlers, etc. but they kept the fucking cave leech.I expect that they might add biome-specific fauna like they did for DRG but right now they're just different coats of paint until you reach the core biome that turns everything into the same dark mush every run.
>>739439795>need 4 entire HE grenades that explode in a way to hit the weakpoint to kill a single EdgestalkerI don't understand what the fuck this company was doing for all these years.
>>739428595i didn't want female dwarfs but if we were going to get them i wanted them to be not shitmale dwarfs are ugly in a masculine way, they're not repulsive they're just vulgar and that makes them attractive in a certain context; the drg fem dwarfs aren't attractive in any contextif they were going to commit to this characters locked to classes shit then they should've just done multiple fantasy races, all the stunty leegers, because that would be a more fun and unique take than the shit they did. Hell, even just other dwarf subraces like duergar and derro would be enough, don't even need gobbos and gnomes and haflings
>>739406443This, it's over unless they completely relaunch the game with a completely new coat of paint.The rogue like mode is just not fun, period.
>black trans miner with shaved hair as the front character
>>739387178Timer just needs one more wave before tentacle rape.
>>739440558The roguelike mechanic is my favorite feature because it means I don't have to grind shit to make a class functional. I can just play as any character and my friendgroup can do the same regardless of who has more hours invested in a class. No overclock hunting, no grinding for weapon upgrades, just get in and get out.
>Nobody cared when they added a girl to KF1>Nobody cared when they added a girl to payday 2(but they did bitch she wasn't hot.)You don't care about the femdwarves either, you're mind rotted by culture war shit.The game has issues but the female dwarves not being hot pieces of fuckable meat ain't one of them.
>>739441252if you dont want to play as a female, you are not locked out of any of the classes, it is purely cosmeticif you dont want to play as the ugly females with the awful voice actress, you are locked out of 2/5 classesthere is a difference
>>739441378if you dont want to play as a female in kf1 and pd2*
>>739441252
>>739441517>the implication is that posts like >>739386663doesn't exist, when in fact they doNigger.
>>739441562Did my post, or the one I tagged, mention this? How much time did you waste on this thread cherry-picking a schizophrenic just to completely ignore the players' concerns?
>>739441252This is literally the same problem with KF3, dummy: classes are locked behind characters so you can't play Firebug with Mr. Foster anymore. Same dumb shit is applied on Rogue Core.
>>739442201>This is literally the same problem with KF3, dummy: classes are locked behind charactersHasn't been a thing in over half a year. But your post is exactly why this game will fail. First impressions are the ONLY impressions, and it doesn't matter if the game fixes itself, the extremely vast majority of people will forever think the game has remained in a time stasis where its release is how it will be forever.
>>739442515its just like kf3, they did this despite being warned by the community that this idea is retarded and was forced afterwards to fix it, too little too laterogue core will be hampered by this until 2028 to appeal to the trannies on their discord server that dont even play games
>>739442515On this point I will agree. But they had ALL of the alpha feedback with which to fix this and they didn't.
>>739442201the most common complaint in any game with classes
>>739415556auric and no-twitch/unmodded cata are baby mode, please keep your opinion to yourself until you play the real games
>your miners from DRG are canonically deadman that's sad
>>739443430no they're not, our fellas are still alive but many mining teams are getting thier shit pushed in down there. where the fuck did you hear that ?
One thing I can say for certain is that spotter is everything scout should've been. And by that I mean he's fun without being too individualistic of a class in a coop game.
>>739443970if you really want to play scout like spotter you just gotta use the Mark for Death overclock it does the same thing, the only issue is that marked on spotter lasts awhile and the fact you are forced to use the M1000.
>>739443865someone at my trans support group mentioned that
Is using both the primary and secondary slots worth it? I think I'm running out of ammo faster when I'm using them both
>>739406443>Did you know Killing Floor 3 fixed everything people complained about by now?DOUBT
>>739443430The playable dwarves in DRG are the entry team, not miners. You don't stay there and work at a facility, you get extracted and make another big hole.
2 hours played, got a refund.
>>739443865they don't explicitly say that all operations from space rig 17 are gone but they try to make that abundantly clear when they are stopping all operations until the reclaimers can reclaim the lost facilities. the place is only so large it cannot contain EVERY player's dwarves, there is a suspension of disbelief there that you have to accept that there are a lot of dead short men to justify them pulling out the SWAT team insteadDRG itself makes no compromises when it comes to dead mining teams. lots of the seasonal exposition from mission control mention massive loss of life, as does the memorial hall, and the mission type of salvage operations.
>>739441517What's there to understand? You're a bigger triggered baby than the people you bitch.>Umm the dwarfs are locked to specific classJust like the first game then? Did you fuckers even play it? Gonna guess no.
>>739446626the people who were requesting female dwarves wanted it as a customization option.the devs decided to not make it a customization option in DRGIn Rogue Core they introduced female dwarves while banning you for asking for it to be a customization optionThey haven't progressed from the initial complaint by even a single step.
>>739395668Man what the fuck is this. They just change the proper nouns and call it a new game? "Alright dwarves time for mission. Hop in the grok pod and get down there and deposit some chorekite into Mandy" wow an entirely new game with new lore! What a fleshed out universe this is becoming
>>739387178>WAAAAA! THIS EARLY ACCESS GAME IS NOT ABSOLUTELY PERFECT AND POLISHED >BWEEEEEE! WHEN I BOUGHT THIS EARLY ACCESS GAME I DIDNT KNOW THAT IT WAS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT whiners.
I wonder what could've possibly gone wrong...
>>739448074The premise that the only reason Rogue Core isn't that popular is the female dwarves is ridiculous.
>>739448183this it's because rogue core is a bad game and the devs have cultivated a classic tranny discord test group
why the fuck would you expend mental energy complaining an already dogshit game is woke?
>>739448183it's like a bad restaurant, the food is bad so that's obviously a problem but there's also a repulsive literal piece of shit laying on the floor so it becomes a more urgent issue that drives everyone awayno one wans to play with this shit, it's genuinely disgusting
>>739404050gorilla warfare
>>739448183It's a contributing factor, not the only one.More people are buying because it has the DRG name than they are shying away because the cover art has an ugly woman. But make no mistake, marketing material does play a lot into how people's first impression is formed.I bet a lot more people are dissatisfied that a game with the DRG name is underwhelming compared to DRG itself. Like I said, that first impression is everything.
>>739448532Because it absolutely buttblasts fags like you apparently, you can't help yourselves. Seethe forever bozo
>>739448074This can still be salvaged.>>739448535This is just some racist caricature kek. What were they thinking.
never even heard of this game>look it up>it's extraction shooter #695yea must be flopping because of the heckin troid on the cover
This is the target demographicI'm not an obese ugly black tranny so I will not buy it
>>739446626>>739447138It's weird they didn't just make them swappable heads with a female voice to the same body. No they riled up the chuds and can expect a lifelong grudge with review bombs assured.
>trannies are unironically defending this and pretending everyone is okay with it
>>739449108gameplay > graphics
>>739449158unfortunate about what they did to the gameplay
>>739449108>making the character ugly on purpose in a game with dozens of cosmetics to get enraged aboutmfw
>>739448928>i am not an obese ugly black tranny so i will not buy itNamaste brotherooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmm
>>739449158gameplay sucks too, seems you're out of copes lil gup
>>739449158>>739449320>just stop caring about the elephant in the roomno thanks>>739449326make it another -1 sale
>>739448736well you absolutely don't get to LARP as a buddhist monk then.
>I don't care if I have to play as a tranny that makes people want to puke just by looking at it
>>739448532why would you "expend" mental energy defending an already dogshit game being woke?
>>739449770I'm not
im having fun
i have schizophrenic shitposter fatigue
are classes in this genderlocked? I don't want to play this if I have to play as a hag, I don't mind them being there but I don't wanna play as that
Would it really consume that much time and budget to make a male and female alternatives to each class and let the players choose?
>>739451063Probably what's going to happen before 1.0.
someone smarter than me please answerwill this dogshit (player and dev time wise) poach DRG to the verge of killing it?the way I see it, the earliest we get S7 for DRG is early 2028
>>739451314>will this dogshit (player and dev time wise) poach DRG to the verge of killing it?So far, it looks like the opposite. The majority agrees that Rogue Snore right now is incredibly mediocre unless you want to try hard with your friends so it's definitely not getting the more popular and casual audience that has kept DRG alive through out all these years.That said, I'd still want to know at this point what the future has in store for DRG because from the roadmap that they just posted, GSG'll 100% be busy with RC for at least one year and a half and since the release of S6 in January, we don't know what the other dev team that GSG employed for making the new season has been doing in the meantime.
>make a game about mining in space with whimsy dwarfs >remove mining>remove whimsy>remove dwarfs (mission control especially)Now all you have is a mid shooter with humans. Literally progressing backwards.ALL of Rogue Core problems were solved in DRG. Devs are fucking retarded.
>>739386767It's definitely way easier to make a greasy ugly type of male character that still looks cool that it is with a female, but personally I think the cafeteria ladies of Superjail is a great example of ugly female characters that still look cool.
>>739452006Still mad about Mama Hong.
>>739452006>>739452140Those look cool because they are older ladies first then badasses later. Hell, even DRG's miners follow the same rules like with Gunner for example being a bald fuck that might pass for your dad but also a cigar smoking dwarf who wields big ass guns. That's the rule of cool.The female dwarves (and really the rest of the Reclaimers team too) designs work the total opposite way: they tried really hard to make them look cool first then whimsy dwarves later resulting in those unappealing abominations.
The game is so fucking ass. I got scammed out of 30 bucks.
Should have been a game mode for DRG, this is a travesty.
why didn't they just make this a mod for DRG? just add an option to select either the reclaimer ship or drg space station on loginthey really need to merge this with DRG
>>739450636Your having a blast? Are you returning to form and studying the comeback? Is this lighting in a bottle>>739449770Sure as long as you quit larping at being a woman
More like nignog galactic.
>>739452880>>739452723>>739452520Good we don’t want you chuds in our community. Drg gets its reputation because we ban all chuds from our games
>>739452880This, they should just merge it and make it a DLC or something. DRG already has a comfy hub area, they could just build both games simultaneously and everyone would be a winner.
This is like Left 4 Dead 2 level stupid, the only difference being that Valve knew they fucked up and added the first game to it for free.
>>739452880>just add an option to select either the reclaimer ship or drg space station on loginnot even thatRC could just have been a terminal next to the fucking deep dives or somethingand the new stuff like classes/weapons/upgrades shouldve been patch content for DRGi will die on this hill
>>739453268yeah but that's not 30 USD per player, cough it up.
>>739449158The gameplay is worse than troon dwarves. The whole game is slow, there is no swarms like DRG, but instead you call a elevator and stand still and shoot and avoid worms you can't kill. There is no bulk, no dreadnoughts, no anything really. Only a dozen reskin glypids. Whats worse is they removed the funnest part in the game, which was the get to the drop pod as fast as you can. That was the funnest part because you could lose it all if you fucked up. Also there is no backtracking in this game, so it makes no since to plan anything at all because the only thing you do is look for upgrades, call elevator, descend until you kill the boss than game over. Lets not forget that you can't build anything in this game, its all up to RNG. Another thing to add is that you can't tell the other dwarfs apart because none of the classes mesh. In DRG despite cosmetics you knew who was who. Gunner would have big gun, Scout would be zipping everywhere, Engi would be building defense, and Driller blowing you up. Now we get a literal hero shooter with shitty abilities. This game sucks. I like the new weapons but would've been way cooler if this was a paid DLC than another game to split up the fanbase and I doubt DRG is gonna get a another big update because Moloch can't handle men being happy.
>>739453316true, the kike tactics prevail yet again
>>739391858people replying are mostly right but are ignoring the little shit like the annoying niggers that spam ping nitra and won't move until they see it mined
>>739453339There's definitely swarms, they're just marked on the diamond to tell you when they'll be coming.
>>739453316>do what that anon said>lock the terminal as DLC for 30it would still be a kike thing to do with a ton of backlash but at least we wouldnt have a completely retarded playerbase split
>>739452486>still no cigar cosmetic in the gamefucking bullshit
>>739453493playerbase would still be split over the paywall. there is no ideal way to do this while also extracting money from people.should've just been a free side mode, as the rogue core missions are literally just deep dives but conceptually cooler (in practice not so much)
>>739453268100% agreea new game would've been fine IF it majorly overhauled combat
>>739453459The swarms are nothing like DRG. In DRG depending on the game mode and the timer swarms would spawn differently. So swarms would ramp up. In this game you spend 10 minutes in a pause screen choosing upgrades for 50 enemies to come at you but since your all grouped up you kill the swarm fast. I played a few games as the bitch with the drown hawk and I didn't take any damage because all I had to do was stand still. There is no running around doing objectives like in DRG so you will never be caught off guard. Since there is no gold or nitra you will never be downed in a hard to reach spot. Example with egg or blue gem mission. The whole team would split up and the waves would gradually increase, so you had to race against the clock and stay together late game to survive and every choice was a risk. This game you have to stay together the whole fucking time because you have unlock upgrades then you don't have to run back to the drop pod to finish the zone. The elevator mission in DRG was funner than this whole game, because you actually had to find the fucking thing. This this game feels like the game ziggurat or binding of isacc but shitter with coop.
>>739454052Oh I'm not disputing the game's pretty ass in the current state for the exact reasons you describe, just that they do have 'swarms'. Also Ziggurat was a fun time, haven't thought about that game in a while.
>>739454185Ziggurat was fun. I played rouge core for around 8 hours and had zero fun. I think its gonna be dead in the water soon.
>>739406443>fixed everything people complained aboutThe gunplay's still shitThe class system is still hero shooter shitStill doesn't have proper voicelines for anything worth a damn unlike the previous two gamesStill runs like absolute dogshitIt's still easier than KF2 which is way easier than KF1.
Just had an insane run with the boys where I had an infinite ammo PGL. This shit owns, way better than overclocks.
>>739386697at least it's beating marathon lmao
>>739415998Yes lol
>>739392292keep doing it over and over
>>739451314It already has. The announcement and decision to focus on rogue core killed DRG in like 2023-2024. The game has been in an abysmal state since
>>739386581It's too linear. DRG built objectives around basic controls, i.e. carry thing, kill thing, stand in area, survive long enough, etc, and then you adapt to the random cave gen. Here you just walk down a hallway shooting shit.
>>739454481You might even say that you had a blast :^)
>Kikestain studios: Okay this DRG thing has potential. I want you lot to make a roguelike game with it, those are big at the mo. Also, make sure it's full of womxn and niggers; wouldn't want to upset Mr Fink now would we.
The funniest thing about them (originally, in the past, when they made DRG) being such a small indie studio is that everyone there probably knows who to blame. They probably all remember the exact meeting and which higher up pitched/okayed this dumb idea and are all coping thinking "well I FOR ONE knew this was a bad idea"
Must not be bad enough if it's maintaining the same peak
>>739457252They paid big """content creators""" to play their game, so you're seeing a revolving door of newfags coming in to make up for those leaving, but its not going to last.
>>739456246There were many blasts, so I had more than just one.
>>739403121>If you ever met a woman who works blue collar, she is an ugly bitch.lmao, the only common trait blue collar women share is that they're all perverts, they can be plenty pretty or plenty ugly.
>>739439264>what even was the point of an alpha then?to see if their game was functional enough to release publicly. now that the game is in early access (beta), they'll start changing stuff to appeal the masses
>>739457958generally the alpha stage of game development is for making sure your game is functional and that your top-level design ethos is worth fleshing out.you're only supposed to move onto beta or early access once you actually have the gameplay design figured out.GSG clearly hasn't figured out the core gameplay design out. This should've stayed in alpha for longer, and they should've listened to the overwhelming amount of feedback that they were getting.
>HOW DO YOU DO, FELLOW DWARVES?!
>>739394950If a publisher promises more than they can deliver on the long tail of sales for a game they can still get their investors pissed off You can't just dump a shit game and expect it to not suffer from bad word of mouth
>The timer is fine but should have different phases. >The worms are really poorly implemented and the game is too chaotic to really hear/see when your friends are grabbed>Ammo economy varies wildly by weapon and like in DRG focusing on ammo efficient weapons makes the game trivial. A lot of weapons need to be tweaked.>Health and armor system really works, but absolutely requires the right people prioritizing the red sugar spawning perks which doesn't feel like good design>The level up perks actually work pretty well but it seems like average DRG player is not great at synergizing>Its also hard to synergize with pubs>Shared perk selection is fine and everyone having separate would mean that everyone is getting epics rather than rationing them>We shouldn't have to gather at the robot to get perks, just fucking remove this partThis game really exposes how casual DRG is. Not even in a bad way, but any pressure or friction and people are crashing and burning when trying to play rogue core.If you are having a rogue time with pubs, unlock Haz 3 and suddenly most of the shitters have been filtered out.
>>739459286>>Health and armor system really works, but absolutely requires the right people prioritizing the red sugar spawning perks which doesn't feel like good designThere needs to be perks to regain armor besides that one high rarity one that just gives the entire team free armor forever
>>739453339>>739454052Are you playing on Haz 1/2? There are absolutely DRG style swarms in Haz 3+. During POI events as well. They are regularly more intense than in DRG.
>>739459286>shared perk selection is fine and everyone having separate would mean that everyone is getting epics rather than rationing themyou say this like they can't intentionally crank up the spawns to compensate for the entire team having more high-value perkslet players have fun by giving them more things to shoot with their power trip builds, instead of relegating it to 1 person having the fun option while everyone else gets trash upgrades. This isn't a problem in solo where you obviously get all of your favorite perks, it's an issue they intentionally introduced for coop.the sheer volume of inconsequential upgrades is what makes the act of upgrading feel fucking awful (on top of the rush to WAIT for people to get near ellis at the same time, and then continue waiting for people to pick their perk).You can have a game be both generous and punishing at the same time. The devs simply have refused to entertain that idea yet.
>>739459616> sheer volume of inconsequential upgradesI really don't think many upgrades are inconsequential. Lack of clear information (and pubs having poor communication and coordination) means that people don't realize that the extra damage to stunned enemies or spreading shock damage on melee attack to electrified enemies are actually great because your guardian or falconer are applying it to everything.I do pub games with a friend who is playing slicer and just between us communicating for synergy upgrades like these the game becomes trivial.Before they ditch the shared upgrade selection, they really need to try out adding more context such as who is applying what elements when looking at the upgrades. >WAIT for people to get near ellis at the same timeYeah, this should just be removed. No reason why it cant be global. It never feels good trying to herd cats or waiting for the one idiot not paying attention.
>>739416518For some shit like fighting games, 2 hours isnt even nearly enough to figure if the game plays good or it is bullshit
>>739460163the fact that you're in a voice call with a friend is a massive advantage that the pub experience lacks.DRG proper can be played with 4 mutes by pointing at things and pressing V. Rogue Core is incompatible for that kind of dwarven autism and that's a huge issue for what players expect.be glad you can actually inspect teammate's builds now. You used to not be able to and it was fucking impossible to be mindful of anyone's upgrades during the alpha before that.
I'm having lots of fun with this, but I don't think it's gonna keep me hooked like DRG did.I logged on after a long day at the job and finished a run really fucking exhausted. In DRG you can do a small cave in Haz 4 within 30 minutes and log out satisfied.
>>739460384That is basically what I am saying. They really need to support some of the current games systems with better communication/information tools before they scrap them completely. Something as simple as tooltips on upgrades showing how many of your teammates are applying related elements/stuns/etc.It does seem like the developers are kind of arrogant about the teamwork magic DRG. DRG is a cozy and friendly game because it is so casual its almost impossible to have conflict with your teammates and that clearly doesnt translate to Rogue Core.
>>739459286>Shared perk selection is fineAbsolutely isn't in its current form for a game most will be playing with pubs.
>>739459286Why the fuck is there a timer? Why the FUCK is there a timer? WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A TIMER?NIGGER I WANT TO PLAY AT MY OWN PACE
