Do you hate cheaters enough to want a company to be able to remotely damage people's devices?
>>739387142Yeah. Get fucked, chinks/ziggers
back in the day we just had dedicated servers and none of this faggotry
>>739387142i dont play valorant or cheat so literally physically not my problem and if you disagree suck my dick and eat my shit
>>739387142lol FUCK cheaters roundhouse kick cheaters into volcanoes
>>739387142no>but whyextremely easy to explain:>it's the group nobody likes, so it's okay if bad things happen to them. so what if it's illegal? they deserve itif you think like this, you're an imbecile
No. But they are going to get fucked in court. Maybe not I'm America
>>739387142I dont cheat so its not my problemSend them to the gulags for all i care
>cheaters seething and malding and spamming wojaks nowlol/popcorn
>>739387142i hate law breaking niggers and i hope they get sued for so much that they have to fire every brown and trans diversity hire that their company is saturated with.
>>739387142No because I don't trust the company
>>739387142cheating in a videogame is a victimless crime. People cheat at sports or finances for personal gain at the expense of someone else's. People cheat at videogames because it's funny. You gain nothing tangible by cheating in a videogame.
>>739387142i wouldn't even mind them bricking legitmate players pc's if they're playing valorant
>>739387396>Uneducated brown tries to insert into a topic he doesnt understandThe computers arent bricked, go ask Grok to tell you why in simple terms
>>739387334>it's bad because it's illegalwrong
>>739387142>Knowingly download malware (games with anti-cheat)>Malware wrecks your PCI don’t wish that on someone out of malice or anything, but I also can’t say it isn’t deserved. What did you expect would happen exactly?
>>739387443i lose nothing tangible by a cheater getting their pc bricked
>>739387142If they can do that they can locate the cheatboys, pull them into a black van and livestream their executions instead. China approved method, probably.
I don't play competitive garbage with anti cheater so get fucked kek I don't care
>>739387539the china approved method for cheating is to cheat more/better
>>739387480>it's not bricked because you can reinstall windowsnope it's still bricked and you still lost all your files good luck arguing this retarded shit in court dumbass hope the entire company goes down like kotaku.
>>739387142If the cheaters are Chinese I don't want their devices destroyed, I want them to burst into flames so the bug's house burns down.
I hate cheaters but it's only a matter of time before companies decide to brick your computer because you said "nigger" in a video game or didn't pay some monthly fee. This sets a bad precedent.
>>739387142Yes
>>739387142ya i really don't give a shit about them
>>739387690>He still goingYou don't know what bricked means, ESL.
>>739387695bring back spontaneous combustion
>>739387730just don’t be a racist pos
>cheater faggot OP>spams shartytrashnot surprising
>>739387334I don't give a fuck about it being a group no one likes, I agree with it because they ruin any online multiplayer game and I won't apologize for my stance. Get fucked niggerfaggot.
>>739387142I don't care. I don't play multiplayer trash.
>>739387690>cheaters are seething and nervously sweating so bad they're crying for daddy gov't to save themlmao!
>>739387142Cheaters should be gunned down like vermin.
>>739387778Stupid nigger
>>739387757it's not a semantics argument about whatever your personal definition of bricked is it's about the damage to property that obviously occured. devices were rendered unusable. if i went up to your window and broke it such that it was unusable i would be responsible for damages, but retarded 3rd world niggers like you like in such lawless shitholes that you can't even understand simple concepts like that because they don't exist in your society.
>>739387142nah, because cheaters will just find a way to get my console tagged for cheating and destroyed
>>739387918Theres no semanticsIts either bricked, or it isnt. It isnt, simple.
>>739387817>>739387864You have to understand that not everyone from /v/ is from a first world western country. In low-trust societies, cheating is considered smart. These are culture in which there is no shame for cheating, only shame for being caught, because being caught means you're an idiot that failed. So when cheaters in games have their pcs bricked, the way they see it is that an innocent person was punished for doing something smart.
>>739387142Depends entirely on how funny it would be. My ideal punishment would be locking their computer behind an insanely hard DOOM wad so the cheater is forced to get good if they want their PC back.
I have Valorant installed, I don't cheat in competitive but do some funny things with Cheat Engine in non Riot games like swapping my model or change gun to shoot bricks etc, can Vanguard potentially fuck my PC?
>>739387142Have you tried just banning them?
>>739388038IIRC, way early on cheat engine would prevent the game running without any other actionNo idea what the case is now.
>>739387973>i can just redefine words to mean whatever i want.>no i will not explain what i mean because it will make me look retarded trying to explain how an unusable device somehow isn't bricked.good luck with that in court retard.
>>739387142Bait thread i know.But it's the principle, if they can do it to a cheater they can do it to you.And if you're retarded enough to install their rootkits you're putting yourself in that position, it's like giving a mall cops the power to execute people who violate their "laws".>but lol cheaters lol fuk themOk say the word "nigger" or "retard" in chat and now your computer is soft-bricked.It's the principle.
>>739387817sure anoni'll wait here to laugh at you when your property gets destroyed and someone says "well you shouldn't have cheated" or something
If you steal from me that does not mean I get to go to your house and destroy your computer. I would just call the police or in the case of Riot, ban the users account.
>>739388164no but you have to understand, cheaters bad so let's give corporations control to pass judgement without due processthink about the shareholders!
>>739387142Fuck cheaters honestly. The only problem with bricking their hardware is false positives.
>>739387142Damaged? No, but I would like at least some comeuppance if they are being obnoxious with it
>enter the Konami code>"people" here think the government should launch a satellite strike on your houseWeren't you all shitting on Japanese people over being cringe with copyright law? This is actually more pathetic
>you agreed to their TOS therefore they act in the place of malware and fuck with your computer however they wish with no due process for any reason they so desire
>>739387142i just hope riot gets sued so these shit companies stop putting malware in their games
>>739388369Cheaters ruin my fun, therefore they deserve to have their pc bricked. Simple as.
>>739388369the fuck do you want people to do here? not be retarded hypocrites and think about thing objectively?fuck outta here
>>739387817>>739387983why virtue signal when there are no updoots to earn
I don't hate cheaters at all, it's video games who gives a fuck
>>739388473you ruing my fun in this thread, give me access to your pc so i can destroy itit's only fair, right? or are you gonna be a hypocrite about it?
>Another chinaman seethe thread
>>739388568>>739388428
>>739388507Third worlder detected.
>>739388143>giving mall cops the power to execute people
>>739387142It's only a problem if they cheat in multiplayer settings. Singleplayer though I don't give a damn
>>739387142I hate cheaters and I also hate LoL players. This is a win win as far as I'm concerned.
>brick someones hardware with malware>wtf you cant do that>"yeah but he cheated doe">oh ok, carry on>bomb a hospital or a school full of children>wtf you cant do that>"yeah but dere was hamas doe">oh ok, carry oni oppose chosenite tactics on principle
>>739387142yes
>>739388553Cheating is immoral.
>>739388650Jew world requires jew solutions.
>>739388668>>739388428
>>739388668i agree, and?if i think posting on 4chan is immoral, should everyone here have their property be destroyed?
>>739388738That's not what immoral means.
>>739388708a jew solution, you say? go on.
>>739387142I hate wojak posters more than cheaters. I have more respect for cheaters.
>>739388650
>>739388369Nobody was talking about cheating in single player games though? You just assumed that. In reality if a thread is talking about cheaters it relates either to competitive multiplayer games or speedrunning.
>>739388708The Jew fears the expulsion method.
>it's 2030>put dxvk files in the game's folder>???>money stolenwtf
>>739388793>LEAVE THE MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY ALONE>THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO YOUR COMPUTER AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON INCLUDING DELETING FILES RENDERING THE COMPUTER UNUSABLE WITHOUT REINSTALLING THE OS DOWNLOADING CHILD PORN OR MORE MALWARE ETC ETC>YOU AGREED TO THE TOS AFTER ALLdeepthroat corprate cock any harder and it'll be coming out your ass
>>739387142That sounds like a lawsuit incoming.
>>739388929I come from a part of the world where cheating is considered immoral.
>>739388983critical thinking also seems to be considered immoral in that part of the world, it seems
/v/ermin are really defending Riot being able to destroy your computer now? What level of contrarianism are you on my dude?
>>739387142A simple ban is way more profitable for the company since most cheaters are stubborn fags and will keep buying the game on different accounts.The device bricking is reserved for the chuddies like many anons said.
>>739389065>your computerBut i'm not a cheater?
>>739388983that doesn't give companies the right to brick your stuff or do whatever they want with your devices, EVEN IF THEY PUT IT IN THE TOS.THIS ISN'T ABOUT CHEATING YOU RETARDSIT'S ABOUT THE FACT THAT COMPANIES SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO DO THISCOMPANIES SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO JUST DESTORY YOUR HARDWARE AT ANY TIME.
>>739389127You might not get this as a shitskin, but humans have these things called "principles". You should google it.
>>739389065remember that "keep acting like retards" meme? that's literally what happened with 4chan. the place is overrun with shills, zoomers and retards. corpo bootlicking is the new normal now
>niggers who bought a $6k piece of hardware that fucks with IOMMU cryingcmon now nigger, you can't even pretend like this is going to cause false positivesthe average joe does NOT buy fucking DMA hardware and they specifically do not buy IOMMU memory reading ones
Breaking property because someone knocked over a virtual sandcastle is the gayest thing imaginable. PvPtrannies are irredeemable. Get a life and stop giving corporations horrendously dystopian weapons and power every 20 seconds over fucking nothingburgers that don’t matter to well adjusted men
>>739389138Why do you keep bringing up the tos? I never even mentioned that.
>>739389175>no this is completely foolproof>only bad people will be affected lemao
>>739387142this is just the beginning, I want them to brick the computers of toxic players next
>wow that shoplifter was raped to death by six gorillas, that's fucked upOH YEAH!!!!! MAYBE YOU PERSONALLY SHOULDNT BE POCKETING SNICKERS BARS EVER THOUGHT OF THAT HUH?????
>brick>look inside>doesn't let you boot with the cheating device installedcool """brick"""
Root cause is 3rd worlders. Firewall their entire country or have a containment server is the logical solution.
>>739389138>"destroy your hardware">it's destroying the softwareare you turdworlders ever going to google what 'brick' means?
>>739389224>i never mentioned something>that means you can't talk about it
>>739389065>/v/ermin are really defending Riot being able to destroy your computerno i am defending their ABILITY to destroy OTHER peoples PC's, especially those belonging yellow and brown ones
>>739389265so you do agree that it's destroying something?
>>739389281But you keep saying that i'm using it an argument when i've never even mentioned it at all.
>>739389261>Thirdies are spending 6 grands on cheating devicesRetard
Both sides should eat shit and die
>>739389379Poors tend to be very irresponsible with money.
>>739389415You are not on the "side" that thinks Riot should not be allowed to destroy people's property?
YesNext question
>>739389318>no i am defending X>i'm just gonna phrase it differently
>>739387142This anon succinctly summarized my position >>739389318
>>739387142There is a reason why a lot of CS:GO casual players switched to Valorant.There were so much cheaters that you now have to use a third-party software/servers to finally play with genuine players
>>739389318Based. If you still play Riot games you deserve to have your computer destroyed.
>>739387142I don't think they should be able to destroy people's hardware. But Valorant players aren't people so it's all good.
>>739387142>Do you hate cheatersI despise them like most do>enough to want a company to be able to remotely damage people's devices?However, this sets a dangerous precedent as it kills modding. I'm sure the vast majority of mustards believe their precious mods are fine, but many companies do not share the same hospitality as Bethesda. Capcom, for instance, see them as just as destructive to their sales and image as cheating in multiplayer. It is not a matter of "if", but "when" the industry enters its witch hunt phase against modding.When modding scenes begin to die in the near future, I will stare you all dead in the eyes and say you brought this upon yourselves
>>739389453What part of "both sides should eat shit and die" you don't understand?
>>739389347>But youi'm not even that anon>keep saying that i'm using it an argumenquote it
>>739387142absolutely
>>739387142thisinstead Riot should send firing squad to homes of cheaters and just fucking kill themwhy let them waste oxygen?
>>739387142Anticheat doesn't actually stop cheaters. It just reduces the amount of them by making it riskier while also making the games run like shit and inconveniencing normal players.Make no mistake that the ziggers and chinks will ALWAYS win the anticheat arms race. While the multi-billion dollar development studios spend inordinate amounts of time and money developing new and improved anticheat to try and defeat aimbotters or script kiddies, Hacky Chan is sitting in his tofu dreg apartment in Beijing figuring out how to circumvent it entirely so that he can sell his shit to no life losers for big $$$, while also installing bitcoin miners on their GPU's memory.
>look at /v/>"AIEEEEEEEEEE THEY'RE EXPLODING MY COMPUTER">look at unknowncheats>"lol get fucked retard just remove the device it doesn't break anything"
>>739389529But I am not a modder so therefore I will not speak out thoughbeit.
>>739388929>>739389545
The point of trolling is to be funny and clever. If you're just spouting retarded opinions then you're at best failing at trolling and at worst you're so stupid that repeating retarded opinions over and over for years have made you just adopt them.
>>739387730This.Also false positives. Plus its just kinda extreme when they could just permaban.
>>739389529>this sets a dangerous precedentand that's everything that needs to be said. if anyone thinks that "no they just gonna punish cheaters" and nothing else, they're absolute fucking retards.corporations want total control over you, so they'll push the envelope on shit like this day after day after day. they dont' want you to own things, they don't want you to fix things, mod things, use things in a way not approved by the corpo, etc. destroying shit you own and making you destitude is literally what corpos want, they salivate about it.>>739389645oh, so you're not from here then. who are you, a corporate shill? a discord raider?
>>739387142I know the discussion about this is all propaganda, [direction] brain, misdirection and proper jewry but I want to make one thing clear.I would not give a fuck if they somehow just killed people remotely if they were detected cheating. absolutely nothing of value would be lost.
>>739389415take it easy goki
>>739387778Racism is just the start. It will turn into doing it for whatever they deem they dislike
>>739389707lol i think you might be the new one here
>>739387142>Companies get to decided which devices they can fry I am not caring about multiplayer enough to enslave myself yet another "modern" bit furtherjust to punish cheatrers.Just as I do not care to have my every conversation recorded and AI-observed for state agencies just because epstein island tourists do exist and recruit fresh meat somewhere.
>>739387334You're wrong because you forgot the next part which is that thr group I don't like is physically effecting my life in some shape or form. If they aren't actually effecting your life in a meaningful way, IE stating an opinion then your statement is correct. However them cheating directly effects my life and well being in a meaningful way.
>>739389734What's a goku?
>>739389831You are unable to think of consequences past what is immediately obvious. You are basically no better than a spearchucker on a savannah. I hope to God you're not actually white.
>>739389831anon your post upsets me, that's affecting my life in a meaningful waydestroy your computer
>>739389591/v/ is CHOCK full of third worlders so there's a huge chance these threads are just them venting over their six thousand dollarydoo "investment" going down the shitter.
>>739387142What happens if they false positive and brick a innocent users device?
>>739389065>>739389163>remember that "keep acting like retards" meme? that's literally what happened with 4chanYeah, people like you are a good example. It used to be that people would actually google whatever OP was going on about and then call him a faggot cocksucker for misinforming them. But retards like you just take it at face value to the point you think it's frying PCs because you haven't done the absolute bare minimum of research into the subject you're insulting other people over.
>>739387778>just don't oppose our brave drafted troops>just don't spread propaganda against the trumpenreich>just don't criticize bombing children
>Should we give players votekick options?>Nah, let's place state of the art malware in their computers instead.Reminder gay companies like Riot hate Votekick options because they don't want players to have any inherence over the game.To them you are the same as a granny attached to a slot machine in vegas.You exist to put coins in the machine, nothing more.>>739387334What if the group I hate is everyone who plays League and Valorant and I am happy they all get fucked for playing a shitty chink game?
>>739388143This plus if Riot can do it then it won't be long before the Chinese back door Riot to you and brick your computer 10 fold in an act of revenge.
It's hardware that was specifically made to cheat in Valorant. They paid 6k to be able to cheat in one game.
>>739388668So is corrupting someone's PC even if its a false-positive. You also don't get any recourse and get treated like a cheater if their software has a false positive. This shit is obviously illegal. Even if cheating was a crime Riot is not law enforcement
>>739389591I mean from that post the retards who actually buy this shit are mindlessly seething. Like they're probably doing on here.
>>739390001It's actually incredible to me how smallminded you are. I can't even really see you as human. "People" like you actually makes me understand the term "goy".
>>739387778>just dont be 70IQ+fuck off nigger
>>739390080>false-positivenot going to happen
if they can prove 100% without question that the person cheated?sure
I'm normally very anti-corporation, anti-capitalist and pro-consumer. But I don't detest cheaters as much as I detest stupidity, and in the event that you allow an anti-cheat service kernel-level access to your PC, and then use that PC to cheat regardless, you are, I'm afraid to say, asking for it.
>>739387142I want every MP game to implement PC dead switch malware actually.Not because I hate cheaters.Not because I approve of destroying of someone else's property.Not because I'm a corpo bootlicker.But because FUCK MULTIPLAYERFAGSt. singleplayerchad that will never be affected by this
Its very simple, I don't like the intrusive anti cheat because it has too much power. What happens if they make a mistake and brick someone who wasnt cheating? Is riot gonna completely recomp their PC?I do not like letting people have power over me.
>>739390258>"singleplayerchad">plays the hit multiplayer game, 4chan: /v/ - the vidya
>>739387142>uhhhh why are you against capital punishment??? do you not hate criminals???Sub 80 iq take
>>739387142>cheaters struggle with basic reading comprehension and overall computer knowledgechecks out
>>739387142kill yourself nigggggger
>>739387142Vanguard already unintentionally corrupted some peoples graphic drivers, boot partitions etc. in the past, requiring a fresh windows install. This is literally just a ploy so that if someone gets fucked over, a bunch of Riot bootlickers can hand wave it and tell you that you shouldn't have cheated.
>>739387142In a world where false positives are not a thing, I believe there is no such thing as punishment too harsh for a cheater.We do not live in a world without false positives.
>>739390139Yeah, yeah, retard. Sorry to burst your bubble. Next time maybe you can try actually using the internet to look up what you're talking about instead of being a retarded normalfaggot that believes whatever OP says. But, then again, a dude even posted a cheat dev saying it's not bricking anything in the thread and you're still too dumb and stubborn to figure it out.
>playing riotslopdeserved, here's hoping the next update makes your DMA emit mustard gas
>>739387142The only thing being bricked are DMA cheating kits. So to answer your question, yes get fucked
>>739387142I don’t like online games so I support cheaters and also bad things happening to cheaters. I want everyone to have a bad time and lose things because of their choices.
>>739387334It's good because it's funny and makes me laugh. It's really that simple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaTx31cv55cTime to listen to one of the classics again
>>739390059Votekicking still ruins the match for everybody and that's assuming they don't have a duo, retard.
>>739387396Breaking an OS install is not bricking someone's system AI retard-san. Bricking a computer, console or any other device means the hardware is completely unusable or broken, hence the name bricked.
>Install latest riot game as normal with VBS enabled on windows>Go to Gpedit or registry>Block programs from making changes to the GPU driver by adding the device id to the list>CheatProblem Riot?
>>739390531Very jewish mentality.
>>739387142People will laugh until their system gets false flagged
>got banned from a game once>email said I was cheating>go to appeal it because my accuracy is 5% and I'm garbage at this game and have never cheated >every ticket I make gets slapped down and they won't give me any details>fast forward a year and the company got bought by some rich ceo dude>I sent him a message explaining my situation and after he investigated it turned out that I was actually banned for credit card fraud on an account that was somehow linked to my main account >they review the logs closer and just unban me I hate cheaters, I really do. But when you're accused of something you never did....god damn is that infuriating.
>>739390585It doesn't even break an OS install, that's just shit pushed by the hardware sellers to fan the flames.See >>739389591
If the news came from some Chinese forum /v/ would be screaming le heckin based
>>739390605>Activates mustardgas.exeThank you for using Riot services :)
>>739387730>tranime poster >retarded takelike clockwork
>>739388090>redefine wordsdunno the details of this thing, but if you can reinstall windows it is definitively not bricked
>>739390575>Be a factually retarded riot bootlicker>"nOdOnt votEkick dE cHEATER tHIS iS BAD! wOULD SOMEONE pLS tHInkl of uS cOMpfAgs!">"Oh my win ratio AAAIIIIEEEEEE"Baka, baka.compfags like you are to be taken outside and curbstomped.I hope the local gang kills you, your family and everyone in you sewer stinking favela.
I'll just stop playing comp slop.Had enough of that during my days.
>>739387142Not sure about the specific case you're referencing here but it's illegal if they intentionally target your hardware and use an exploit to brick it.>§1030. Fraud and related activity in connection with computers>(a) Whoever->(5)(A) knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage without authorization, to a protected computer;The terms in the EULA or any other contract are rendered void as well>Restatement (Second) of Contracts § 195>Term Exempting from Liability for Harm Caused Intentionally, Recklessly or Negligently>A term exempting a party from tort liability for harm caused intentionally or recklessly is unenforceable on grounds of public policy.
>>739390898What are you even going on about, you seething weirdo?
>>739387142Yes, actually, I do. Also they've had this capability for years, and could trigger it accidentally and unintentionally through sheer force of incompetence alone.
>>739390632Live service games are the Jewish mentality made interactive and digital, please drown.
>>739387142>Do you hate cheaters enough to want a company to be able to remotely damage people's devices?I think cheaters should be executed. That goes for everybody else who ruins the internet, including bot users and spammers, and indians.
>>739387142I legitimately fucking do, and I REALLY fucking wish it would happen, but I also know such power would be abused for things outside of cheating, so I don't advocate for it despite really wanting it.
>>739391163based public commons defender
if you install third party, kernel level applications to play shitty games you deserve to have your shit bricked
hmm yes introducing a malware backdoor for malicious actors to exploit, all the fuckers have to do is install valorant to a remote system, cheat on it and get riot in on it, what could possibly go wrong hmm maybe all antivirus labeling valorant as malware as a start.
>>739391419if someone can remotely install whatever application they want on your computer then you're already compromised in a billion different ways why would they even need to use valorant at that point?
>>739387142I don't mind if their servers got fried as a backlashI don't even play that game I just hate
I should be allowed to execute any of you if you post something I don't like.
>>739391672Finally, some good fucking takes
i dont play any riot games and cheaters can get fuckedhopefully they find a way to detonate their CPUs next time, hackers on steroids style
>>739391772I really hope they destroy each other, both riot and cheaters.
>>739391772Your rig is getting bricked too for those nude mods, animenigger
>>739387142No, because I don't want to risk having my machine damaged just because an anti-cheat system start having false positives.>whoops sorry, seems like FaggotDefender 3000 accidentally nuked 6 billion machines because it wrongfully thought MSPaint was a cheat software
Cheaters should have their computers brickedHOWEVERNo private company on earth should have the ability to brick your computerIf you disagree you're a waste of a brain.
>>739387142YesIf you kill your enemies, you win
cheaters aren't human so you can do whatever to them for all I care.
Now you know they could>Make your PC fans stop >Remove temp limit >Overclock your CPU >Make your PC burn because all of the above causing a fire, killing you>Of course this all would happen while you are sleeping because they have charted your routine from your infoNeato
>>739387142Yes, I do. In the old days if you cheated at cards you had your hands broken beyond repair or were killed. We need thst kind of justice to return.
>Riot installs mandatory spyware that goes balls deep into your OS>Everyone with a brain stops playing their games immediately>This happensYou were warned. If they can brick your PC over cheating they can brick it over behavior they don't like too. Stop playing Riot shit.
>>739388668cheating is + izzat
>>739394470If you have a brain why are you commenting on things you don't know about implying they did things they didn't?
>>739387730Stay in your fucking clubhouse then, nigger. Host your own fucking server.
>Buying a used PC part>It bricks your entire PC even if you don't play any crappy Riot games
>>739387142no. it's call appropriate use of violence. a key element for justice to exist.
>>739394781>nooooo vanguard is totally safe please play valorant
>>739387142Nah. TBh playing well is cheating.
>>739387142I support piracy/emulation but think cheaters in online games need to be vanned. Where am I on the political spectrum?
>Chinkers/third-worlders make the choice to spend a bunch of a money to cheat a bing-bing-wahoo game>mfw they get fuckedWILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE WHOLESOME CHEATING CHINKARINOS!?!?!?!?!
>>739395248This is how you stop them from just making a new account or buying the game again. If Tarkov would implement this, they would literally lose any and all future revenue.
>>739387730>This sets a bad precedentThis is exactly what the slippery slope fallacy looks like: some actual diagnosed retard extrapolating the most retarded conclusion.>the police just killed a man because he was beating his wife to death and was about to shoot random people>erm this sets a bad precedent because what if I'm in my house and uhhhhh like I'm carrying a brick and I slip on a banana peel and uhhhhh I drop the brick on my wives head and then uhh the police are there because its a police state now and uhh they flay me alive for my crime uhhhhh this is kind of a bad precedentIf your brain is this poisoned, just end it.
>>739395242the nonpartisan (based) one
>ANON! YOUR BIOS SETTINGS CAUGHT A COMPUTER VIRUS!
>>739389831if someone cheating against you in a video game affects your well being, that's on you
I hate cheaters but false positives happen especially in the era of jeetcode, and if I had to reinstall my OS because of an anticheat false positive, I would commit arson in minecraft
>>739396351you wont do shit
Yes I believe in Riot because indian devs have been proven to be trustworthy and competent
>Giving someone the power to remotely destroy any device of their choosing in an era where there is a new vulnerability every minuteNah.
>>739396412damn you sure showed him
>>739387142No, I want to kick their asses and destroy their shit irl and I want companies to assist me in this endeavor.
>>739396638thanks
>>739396351Okay, so a false positive happens and Windows blocks the nonexistent DMA card in your computer for trying to access protected memory. What's the problem?
Do I think that companies should be allowed to arbitrarily destroy a users OS, with no method of appeal or scrutiny, forcing them to reinstall? No.Do I think still think that cheaters should be forced to do communal service if caught? Yes.If you can't understand the distinction between these two then don't even bother to reply.
>>739396656i lied i don't think you showed him shit
>>739396708check this then *unzips dick*
cheaters deserve the death penalty
>>739396740ok that's unzipped dick alright what else zipboy
>>739395416Phenomenal comparison Ranjeet
>>739387142Does it brick ONLY those devices, or does it brick computers at as well?
>>739387142I think I should not only be allowed to cheat but also be paid for how much seethe I can cause
>>739396351Yeah, this. This is the kind of shit that makes me just not want to even play any multiplayer games anymore.And best part is, cheaters aren't even gonna be affected anyway. Anti cheats in general can only detect widespread shit, like the stuff script kiddies pay for or download for free. There's nothing that prevents any custom written cheats, particularly if the cheater himself is also smart and doesn't blatantly stare at enemies through walls or ends the matches with 100% accuracy.
>install riot game on you brain chip>You get banned.>You die.
>>739395416That's not the slippery slope at all. A slippery slope would claiming that x would lead to z without establishing any of the connective tissue y between the two. Stating that enacting x would set precedent y that could enable z isn't.
>>739396741most of the vanguard developers are former cheat developersso let's start with them
>>739397093well i'm gonna lead this fist into the connective tissue of your brain, how about that you big baby
>>739397046>And best part is, cheaters aren't even gonna be affected anywayNigga, people spent 6k on external hardware just to cheat and still got banned. Fuck are you talking about? You retards will really cry that ACs do nothing because of a hypothetical example of a handful of people making their own custom cheats even while watching ACs do something. It's like saying a dude probably broke out of prison once so there's no point in locking up criminals.
>>739397230I doubt you can lift your bottle of soilent, let alone throw a punch
reminder, those cheating retards have plenty of money to spare to fund psyop campaigns trying to convince people that riot is bricking computers instead of just disabling their retarded dma cards
>>739397364External hardware that's been know about for how many years?
>>739396656no problemreal recognizes real
>>739397093Explain the connection.>anti-cheat software specifically designed to brick cheating devices bricked a device specifically used to cheat>there is no absolutely history I can see of false-positives bricking anything else>????>NEXT THEY'LL BE BRICKING MY 'PUTER CAUSE I AINT A TRANNY!?!?!?!?!Explain to the class. It's as retarded as connecting: for this program to run it needs to save on my computer and "NEXT THEY'LL BE SAVING ILLEGAL FILES ON MY COMPUTER FOR A STING OPERATION CAUSE I SAID NIGGER ON THEIR FORUM!"Take your meds, retard.
>>739397543I'm not going to explain a strawman. Be better.
>>739387142fuck them cheatersand fuck rito
>>739387334I got like three arguments hereOne, using an oven in ways it is not intended can burn your house down. Why do you expect your computer to be safe when used wrong enough? Especially since you go to such great lengths outside of common usage in order to create this situation you made for yourself. It's a common situation that if you use things wrong they break. This isn't anything new.Two, usually it's illegal to shoot somebody, but circumstances make it totally fine to blow their head smooth off. Circumstances such as high-stakes robbery, which cheaters do by making people like me completely uninterested in taking their game seriously enough to invest any money into it.Third, it is a group nobody likes and nobody cares if bad things happen to them, and if it's illegal that's based. Laws are born from societal standards, not the other way around. The sluggish bureaucracy of law has not caught up to making this illegal and punishable by the measures they deserve to be, and just because it isn't legal shouldn't stop anyone and everyone from doing it all the time.
>>739397543it doesn't even brick the dma card. it just tells the motherboard to disable it
>>739397602I accept your concession. Thank you.>StrawmanOh, you just use words without understanding them. That makes sense.
>>739397609>The sluggish bureaucracy of law has not caught up to making this illegal and punishable by the measures they deserve to be, and just because it isn't legal shouldn't stop anyone and everyone from doing it all the time.So true sister, racists should be lynched
>our software has detected you going 2mph over the speed limit>car explodes
>>739397658>I accept your concession The cries of one BTFO
>>739390001>It used to be that people would actually google whatever OP was going on about Stop lying, faggot cocksucker.
>>739397460So, now it's not that they aren't going to be affected but that it took too long to affect them so they shouldn't have done the thing that affected them? Do you own one of the cards or are you just retarded?
@739397740(You) lost and (You) are embarrassed and angry. I forgive you, my retarded lil' nigger.
>>739387142That is a bad idea, but yes.
>>739397727wonder how many people who are praising riot are in favor of tesla putting in a surveillance camera to detect if you're driving drunkwould also love to see a breakdown by age, nationality and IQ
if you cheat in multiplayer pvp games you deserve getting your pc bricked
A company remotely being able to brick your device is super villain shit, its morally unacceptable BUT its completely optional because the only reason they can do that is because you told them they could by downloading their game, you get a warning and everythingOn the otherhamd bricking the $6000 cheating devices being used to play LOL and Valorant is extremely based and morally acceptable.Obviously playing these games going forth is an irresponsible use of your property and I'll be there watching for when riot gets hacked/breached and all LOL/Valorant players lose all their data, money and PC's. This hack is so lucrative that it will happen someday and its so devastating to anyone that is playing those games its not even funny, it will be sad.
if you play rito games you deserve to get your pc bricked and your personal files stolen
>>739397804>Being this mad
>>739395248>say nigger in a video game>mossad sets off the IED inside your mobo, killing you and your familyShouldn't of said the N word.
>>739397930okay but no devices were bricked retard
>"ERMMMM, MY HECKIN' BRICKED-">Some cheaters use special external hardware called DMA devices to secretly access game data and avoid detection. Vanguard now blocks those devices by using a standard Windows security feature called IOMMU protection.>For regular players, nothing changes:>Your PC will not be damaged.>Normal hardware and software are unaffected.>Games and programs will work normally if you are not using cheating hardware.>The DMA devices themselves are not destroyed or damaged. They just can’t be used to cheat in games like Valorant and League of Legends anymore./thread. Learn how to read.
>>739397998Racists should be killed thoughbeit
>>739389248It should have been 6 horses and the shoplifter a busty woman dressed as lora from tomb raider. It still would have been fucked up, but it would have been hot.
>>739397543>anti-cheat software specifically designed to brick cheating devices bricked a device specifically used to cheatthanks for outing yourself as a retard (and a cheater)
>>739387142I hate cheatersI don't really care what happens to their devices because they deserve it for being cheating niggerfaggotsI still want the company to get fucked in court for doing it Simple as
>>739397930>the only reason they can do that is because you told them they could by downloading their game, you get a warning and everythingI feel like putting unfair contractual clauses into your purchase of a good or service falls into some sort of legal debate territory, but I am too much of a dumbass to think through the implications of such things.It's like alternative medication that has all of these proven negative side effects but *might* help the body half the time.
>>739397685The thing is with racism is you can just shoot anybody who actually comes talking to you about your speech because it is your right, as long as it's not Johnny Somali tier public nuisance faggotry. Nobody's gonna kick your door in for cheating little bro, so it's on everyone else to find new and innovative ways to lower the population of Russians, Brazilians, and Filipinos on the internet, and I'm all for it. I do care if they turn their computers into pipe bombs, because I would fund it.
>>739397930>I'll be there watching for when riot gets hacked/breached and all LOL/Valorant players lose all their data, money and PC'sI really don't know what special thing you guys think would happen that couldn't happen with any other program getting hacked. Like how Notepad++ got hacked a bit ago.
>>739389248>wow that mugger's gun was broken by six gorilla bodyguards, serves him rightOH YEAH!!! WELL WHAT ABOUT HIS RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS HUH????? IT WAS HIS PERSONAL PROPERTY
nobody is bricking computers you fucking retards
>>739387142No, I don't trust anybody with the power to damage other people's property remotely in any manner or for any reason.However, I think cheating in video games should be actually illegal.
>>739387142If it were a game I'm playing and a match I was in, the catharsis would far outweigh my immediate concerns that companies are remote bricking pcs. Get fucked, asshole.But outside of that very specific situation- yes; I think this shit is fucking retarded and companies shouldn't be able to do that. It's not going to stop at cheating, I can tell you that right now.
>>739398030>Learn how to read.I don't want to read. I want to be angry and feel superior to people over things that didn't happen but ragebait told me did.
Is there any streamer hit by this mid game or something?Sadly its only in one game, hopefully more game developers follow doing the same anti cheat method.
I'd rather have the occasional cheater than give any fucking company access to the kernel, thanks.
>>739397776Im retarded
>>739398260Many such cases.
>>739397776Did anyone ever tell you that you're stupid?All it takes to counter this shit is to develop new cheats and that's what I'm saying. Why, I'm pretty sure those external things are gonna be the easiest to adapt. This is just the usual banwave->a week of gloating before anyone bothers making new cheats->return to same old cheater paradise.Meanwhile those companies are now openly flaunting that they're constantly monitoring what you do on your own PC just to more efficiently pretend that they care about cheaters. They're collecting data they should not be allowed to collect, and that's what this is about.
>>739398249>It's not going to stop at cheating, I can tell you that right now.Any day now, [bad thing] will happen and then you'll all see.
>>739387142i don't care about cheaters getting their machines bricked but i have 0 faith that this wouldn't also affect non-cheaters. like if their cheat detection isn't good enough to be able to ban them, why is it good enough to brick their devices? unless it doesn't brick their actual pc and just whatever third party cheat hardware they use, in which case this is incredibly based
what's the appeal of PVP cheating? i tried it once in gmod years ago to headshot everyone and i got no enjoyment from itCheating in premium currency is based though, fuck swedniggers
>>739387334I say this about blacks and jews though
why the fuck are they spending 6000 fucking dollars to cheat? its REALLY not that serious
>>739398342>but i have 0 faith that this wouldn't also affect non-cheatersJesus Christ get a fucking brain you absolute moron, this just prevent people from using cheating DMA hardware, if you don't use cheating dma hardware then it will never hit you.
>>739387334>it's the group nobody likes, so it's okay if bad things happen to themif you're against this, you could apply the same logic to anything, including actual murderers, criminals, <people you personally dislike>, etcit's not like they're being targeted as a group because people find them subjectively annoying, they're breaking the rules and making the game worse for everyone else. fuck 'em
>>739387393its an anti-cheater wojak actually
>>739398470maybe to boost other people's ranks for money
>>739387142It's their hardware and their conscious decision to risk it. Why should I give a fuck?
>>739397804Someone get this autistic hothead outta here
>>739387142Just make a bunch of friends and play with em, instead of using random people as meatbots.
>>739398473>it will work exactly how they think it will because they said so!do you know how retarded you sound
>>739397093Exactly. Dumb niggers don't understand the difference between the slippery fallacy and a slippery slope argument
>>739398593right then fuck them and fuck their hardware then im glad it got destroyed
>>739398481And just like FBI and co grooming school shooters doesn't justify grabbing the guns of law abiding citizens, the odd cheater doesn't justify the draconian shit game companies are trying to push.
>>739387142Just ban them and refund their money.
>I hate cheaters!!>they ruin every game!>grrr I wish their PC got brickedIf you weren't such a faggot you'd realize cheaters are fucking based. Not because cheating is based but because making people quit online games is like helping people quit substances. Imagine if we all got our time and effort back from the thousands of hours we wasted on these rigged matchmaking, lootbox gambling, jewtranny owned competitive games. Imagine a future where cheating is so bad, all competitive games go out of business from lack of players. Millions of young men's lives saved.So thank you cheaterGODs for saving young men from the evils of pvp games. Keep shitting up every pvp game ever so more and more people move to singleplayer or coop titles. Cheaters are my heroes and all competitive games are unworthy of existing.
>>739398319>Did anyone ever tell you that you're stupid?Only anons upset about being wrong. I've been told the opposite quite often in real life.>All it takes to counter this shit is to develop new cheats and that's what I'm sayingAnd then they improve the AC and ban them again. Yes, anon, that's how it works. But I'm willing to bet somebody paying or thinking of paying 5.8k to go undetected probably really didn't want to get banned. And the fact that people are paying that kind of money at all is indicative of the fact that the AC is effective and prohibits cheaters.>I'm pretty sure those external thingsYou have no idea lmao, you don't even know what they are, you're just saying shit.>They're collecting data they should not be allowed to collectLike what? What are they collecting and why could they not collect it just from you installing the game? Why haven't these cheat developers who have been reverse engineering Vanguard, who apparently walk circles around it, who have a direct financial incentive to expose this, blown the whistle?>and that's what this is aboutNo, it's not but you need to change the subject after getting blown out. I understand.
>>739395416Companies don't care about you. They will slide all the way down that slope
>>739387142If you're just cheating in a single player game to your own benefit, who caresIf you're cheating in a multiplayer game to do funny stuff to amuse others, whateverIf you're cheating in a multiplayer game to make everyone miserable but yourself; then honestly go fuck yourself.
Only in the case that it affects those fags, and only those fags.If anyone else gets affected, then no.
>>739398729Its not because they say so, its because smarter people than you know exactly how it work and its just forcing a window protection so you can't just read dma calls not meant for you, so people will hardware designed to do so will never be targeted by this. But hey if you can't even understand this maybe you're really mentally challenged.
>>739398729How will this affect legitimate users? Give an example instead of just blind fearmongering over shit you know nothing about.
>>739387142Who doesn't, seriously
>>739398814>refund their moneyYou'd like that, wouldn't you cheater-kun?
>>739387142Yeah it's good they can get arrested in china and korea I think. Should be unallowed to use the internet. I don't play multiplayer games anymore because of cheating subhumans, I've discovered single player games to be super comfy on the bright side.
Only people who have a problem with this are turd worlders/chinks, both of which should never be allowed to access the internet
>>739387730>Bro it's gonna be 2084 broShut up you idiot.
>>739398862>gigachad.jpgNot going to read your assuredly dogshit opinion.
Valorant is a shit game and riot is a shit company. I hope they go out of business and their kids have to whore themselves on the street. I also hope anyone who played the game gets turbo AIDS and their PC is bricked forever and they have to whore themselves on the street also. I also hate people who have a different opinion on the matter than myself and hope their whole families burn to death.
>>739387142Yes it's a spiritually non White thing so only those bad get punished
I hate jews but I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER want something like the holocaust to be real I promise.
>>739398882>And then they improve the AC and ban them again. Yes, anon, that's how it works.I just told you that this is just the usual banwave before fucking off to do nothing until the suits get antsy again.>I've been told the opposite quite often in real life.Oooh, I see, you're one of those.Yes anon, you're completely right, my bad. I agree with absolutely everything you just posted. I must also say, you're definitely very smart and so brave to stand up to people telling you things you believe to be wrong, especially considering your situation.
>>gigachad.jpg>Not going to read your assuredly dogshit opinion.
>>739398862>I paid $6000 for a chinese cheat-box to cheat at a meaningless free to play video game and all I had left in the end was this whiny post
>join server>it has a cheater>join another server>problem solvedThis has worked for me in 100% of cases. If you're playing a game where everybody is cheating all the time then I think your taste is the problem
>>739387142You're gonna get your PC nuked thanks to a false positive, it has already happened with two anti cheat rootkits fighting over for control.
>>739398908and then people would protest the fuck out of it and boycott because what dipshit company thinks going the nuclear option for everything is a good idea or service?Plus it would just open the door to a service that DOESN'T have uber cartoon draconian laws thought up by an armchair nerd on the internet.
>c-ch-cheaters are ackshually baseed and redpilled
>>739387142I think everyone involved should die
I don't care. I will never install ring0 software to let me play a game
>>c-ch-cheaters are ackshually baseed and redpilled
>>739387142I don't care if Riot is actually not bricking computers but instead bricking cheating hardware.I hate Riot, and I will go around telling people Riot is bricking computers because I want people to hate Riot as much as I do.
>>739399495>and then people would protest the fuck out of it and boycottLet me know when you've changed the world, Anon
>>739387142No. I hate cheaters, obviously, but that's not a solution, you're just throwing away the baby with the bathwater.
>>739399307>I just told you that this is just the usual banwaveAnd the next two sentences I posted after what you quoted are my response to that.>Oooh, I see, you're one of those.Can you really not fathom someone being sincerely told they're smart in real life or were you reading the rest of my post and just decided to go back up and make a snarky reply to my first response because you realized you couldn't address any of the other points I made?
>>739387142Yes.https://youtube.com/watch?v=9-Qr0BgHPG0Only subhumans cheat.
>>739387334You are a moron and a pussy.You have hackers literally bragging in their discords they went out of their way to murder Paladins and they wear is a badge of honour.
>>739387142Vanguard literally had a "bug" a couple of months ago that targeted legitimate Deadlock installs and completely broke it.If you think giving any company the free reign to target and potentially break your machines, be it intentionally or on a possible false positive, is a good idea, you are the biggest, dumbest, vantablackiest negro retard in the whole wide world and you entirely deserve the consequences when it inevitably backfires on you too.
>>739399414Server browsers haven't existed in like a decade gramps. And most cheaters you can't really recognize without analysing their gameplay for hours, shit is advanced now
>>739399931I actually went back to write the part about the banwave right after realizing what you are.Once again, you are very smart for noticing things like that. You deserve a star sticker or something. Be sure to tell your legal guardian all about it.
>>739400253Never touched Riot stuff, is this actually true? If so, that would sure be a huge "coincidence".
>>739387142It's amusing if true and I think cheaters deserve it, but I'm also not going to be installing that shit on my computers either, fuck that.
>third world brownoids murdering online games for izzat are suddenly moral voices of virtue and restraintLol, enjoy your 6000 dollars paper weight, kid.>I-i'm gonna sue RiotGo on, sue them after saying you injected code into their copyright protected code or get your throat slit by the Triad once the court gets receipts from you and Riot tracks them down.
>>739400285lmaoYou're only really bruising your own ego by calling someone you know you lost an argument to a retard. You'll have more self esteem if you learn to give people credit when they do something better than you. Have a good day, champ.
>"dude, i am a freaking chad cheater, xd">spends 6000 dollars so he could have a chance at winning in Fall guysHuh?
I'd be a fool to play anything Riot, let alone download that shit.
>>739387142no 6000 shekels is a lot for me i cant condone this
>>739387142>Do you hate cheaters enough to want a company to be able to remotely damage people's devices?No cause they'll find some way to put a false positive on someone's computer and then you're bricking someone innocent. There were hacks in MW2 that allowed them to trigger the anti cheat and get you banned. Cheaters deserve to be humiliated and banned but anti-cheat that does physical damage to a computer has too much collateral at stake
>>739401535How are normalfags that don't even know 6000 cheat cards are a thing going to get hit with a false positive? Go on Zhang, concern troll me more.
>>739401535>Cheaters deserve to be humiliated and banned but anti-cheat that does physical damage to a computer has too much collateral at stakeagreed when it comes to a PC, but in this case doesn't it only brick the functionality of a dedicated cheat device?i think anyone buying this shit should be flayed alive, let alone have it bricked.
Riot would never EVER issue a false ban, and have definitely NEVER been caught blocking competitor's games. Always trust the corpo with your hardware, they know better than you anyway.
>>739401698They don't have to know, that is literally the point of RCE's and exploiting anti-cheat software, did you read?>>739402024>but in this case doesn't it only brick the functionality of a dedicated cheat device?apparently not but I didn't read too far into it
>bad actors get acess to the anti cheat>remote brick everyone
>>739387142No but I'm not going to defend them either.
I don't use twitter, reddit, etc, nor do I play massively mainstream multiplayer games that require anti-cheat installation. Can I get a QRD?? Who's 6k computer got destroyed?
>>739402782Anon, false positives don't exist, big corpo would never do anything that they shouldn't for more profit!!!Big corporations don't have to follow any laws or the constitution, they can legally ban your speech and they can legally destroy your computer!!!
>>739404574Whose*No ones. Cheaters paid 6k for a little pcie thing that helps them cheat, and they're butthurt because Riot won't let them use it anymore.That's literally it. Vanguard got updated to tell their method of cheating in specific 'fuck you'.
if every multiplayer gamers machine blew up and killed them the world would be a better place
>>739387142Read into whats actually going on you mongoloids
>>739405041This, so much this
>>739387142No because they'll do more than just damage cheaters' devices. Even if they don't, that will bring the price of PC parts up even more so the part vendors and scalpers win.
>>739387334>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO COME TO MY AID MY BROTHERS EVEN THOUGH I DERIVE ENJOYMENT OUT OF RUINING THE FUN OF OTHERS THE COMPANY IS RUNNING MY FUN FOR ME
>>739405175Concern troll more.
>>739405175>when you accidentally buy a dma device, accidentally plug it into your pci-e slot and accidentally start using it to bypass anticheats
>Trusting a company with the ability to remotely disable shit (Don't care if it is "only" cheat hardware at this moment) in an era of vibe coded shit and exploits being found every day.
>>739405175>commit murder>police come to arrest you>"No this is tyranny I did nothing wrong! Quick everyone, if we all work together we can overthrow these fascist police and stop them from hurting innocent people like us!">absolute nobody stirs to help you>"Fucking bootlicker shill faggots! These police will totally start arresting all of YOU one day for absolutely no reason then you'll fucking wish you had sided with me REEEEEEEE."
>>739387142I have no doubt in my mind that this move only affected chinese or russian people. I wish it affected indians and brazillians but there's no way they can afford this equipment.
What the fuck is this "cheating device" and why are people willing to pay 6k for it?
i mean this power should absolutely be given to me personallyit's everyone else i don't trust with it
>>739405964brown ESLs think they can rank up an account and sell it to someone.
>>739387142>days passed without normalfags trying to add new boots to their neck: 0giving that kind of access to corpos is like giving the middle east nukes and telling them only to use it on the deserving
>>739387142No, they should be drone striked asap
>>739387730The company would never ever ever do that, you can trust them bro
>>739387730Are you literally getting mad about an imaginary scenario you made up in your head?
>>739387142Considering a bunch of the multiplayer games I really liked when I was younger are hacker and cheater infested shitpiles these days, I'd be okay with their devices being transmuted into a fucking bomb and blowing up their house.
>>739407175You new? That's most of this board.
>>739387142Not when said company is retarded and will harm random people.Cheaters have already completely circumvented whatever said anti-cheat and punitive measures are.>>739395416>>739407175Political opponents are getting jailed RIGHT NOW in England, China, Russia, and numerous other shitholes.It's insane that you'd for even one second want to allow the possibility of an erosion of your freedom.How fucking lead poisoned and ipad numbed are you that creating a mental model of a possible scenario based on real world events is "making things up in your head"?You're so fucked, your whole generation is completely fucked, total inability to engage in critical thinking.Genuinely the technological torments to come are completely and totally deserved.
>>739408098I don't live in a country where those things are likely to ever happen, but I'm sorry to hear that you do.
>3 separate threads on the catalog about the same psyop run by retarded cheaters who are upset they can no longer use their $6000 dma card for 2 (two) specific f2p gamesjust nuke this fucking board already
>>739387730Yeah well it's only a matter of time before Jesus descends from the heavens once more and kicks me in the balls because I called you a fucking schizo retard.
>>739408098>Cheaters inserting a device that practically no legitimate player in existence is going to have in their home computer, that virtually nobody on this board could name a legitimate use for without google, and using it to try and access a game's protected memory get it flagged by a Windows security feature for malicious behavior and blocked>"THIS IS LITERALLY JUST LIKE POLITICAL DISSIDENTS GETTING IMPRISONED YOU'RE SO FUCKING STUPID IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE CONNECTION YOUR WHOLE GENERATION IS BRAINWASHED YOU FUCKING DESERVE TO BE TORTURED"Have you ever taken a moment and just considered the possibility that you might be an easily riled up dumbass? That maybe, in this scenario, you're actually the idiot falling for cheater propaganda because they're all seething over getting banned and humiliated in front of their friends after spending 6k on a cheat card? You probably haven't which is part of what makes you a retard.
>>739408494As a slight upside, I think these threads have actually woken some people on this board up to the genuine cheat dev shills here. I was starting to feel like a schizo.
Not gonna lie, I think Israel should just hire cheaters for their fucking psyop shit. The way "game won't boot with a dma device plugged in" got twisted into "RIOT IS BRICKING COMPUTERS DESTROYING HARDWARE!!!!" is actually pretty wild.They would have convinced the world Palestine was populated by hell spawn and monsters before the first bodies went cold.
>>739387142>block cheaters' access to the game in which they cheated but don't interfere in their ability to play other games>brick their gaming systems so they can never play any game ever again without forking out a shitload of money to replace the glorified paperweight they now possesspick one and tell me why you think it's the more proportionate and reasonable response
>>739409039It's so effective though because of the genuine seethe and delusion. I don't think they'd have the same power if they didn't care like they do when they get banned. There was even a screencap someone posted of one of the cheat forums where a user was crying about how Microsoft should blacklist them or something for malware and the cheat dev had to say it wasn't going to happen. They're not calculated, it's from the heart.
>>739409154>hang yourself the ceiling fan>shotgun to the domepick one and tell me why you think it's the more proportionate and reasonable response for being so retarded as to fall for this/push this cheater psyop
>>739387142Why would I hate cheaters making riot game players miserable?
I finally see the light.It's like going onto twitter and calling someone you dislike a pedo, they will unquestionably defend you.Go onto /v/ and say someone else cheated in vidya games, they will unquestioningly give up their hardware and privacy.Its the same virtue signalling, just a different target audience.
>>739387142See the forest for the trees you disgusting kikeslave. I don't want Chinese corpos to be able to do anything to anyone's computer. If that means some shithead teenager gets to cheat in a MOBA or hero shooter then so be it
>>739408885I hope so, I'm even surprised by how much shilling theres been, I think I underestimated how many cheaters are out there. Also since is such blatant shilling, it makes you really think about what percent of threads here as a whole are just advertising but more subtly than this
>>739409402>I don't want Chinese corpos to be able to do anything to anyone's computergood news, they cant, now learn how to read/how computers work
>>739387142If you are playing anything from RIOT games in the year of our lord 2026 you deserve to have your PC bricked.
>>739409154That's not what happened. Their PCs were not bricked.
>>739409510>I think I underestimated how many cheaters are out thereI honestly think it's less than people say, that the insistence everybody is cheating is part of the shilling and a cheater cope, but they're very vocal. Like think of it, someone blowing 6k just to cheat in a video game is clearly mentally ill. And it's been proven over and over that one schizo can easily derail discussions on here.
>>739387518You lose the ability to buy their hardware secondhand or repurpose them for the community. You’re just not thinking clearly because you’re retarded and salty.
>>739387730You’re right. The same low-IQ mouth breathers calling you schizo are the ones who say “if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about”. You already get permabanned from online games for saying “gg ez”, much less anything racist. Normies hate racism more than cheaters.
>>739409682fair point, might just be more about the sheer amount of illiterate retards out there that are amplifying this than the cheaters who started it
>>739387142>used to run trainers, hacks, and mods>thought it was funny and cool for a while >got bored and realized I had more fun with them off
>>739387730THIS
>>739407175I see this retarded response on any argument you can't counter. It's not an imaginary scenario. You said it was imaginary scenario before saying shit like GG was considered hate speech. Shut up you disingenuous faggot.
>>739410206>this thing that never happened isn't an imaginary scenarioyes it is
>>739407175>if we decriminalize child abuse, more kids will get abused>Are you literally getting mad about imaginary scenario in your head? See, it's easy to break down your stupid line of thinking. Life is full of precedents. Testing the waters. Getting people comfortable with extremes. Forty years ago men using women's bathroom would be absolutely unheard of and would be hated by everyone. I'm sure your dumbass ancestor was using your same line>Men thinking they are women?>Are you literally getting mad about an imaginary scenario in your head?
>>739387334>it's the group nobody likes, so it's okay if bad things happen to them. so what if it's illegal? they deserve it
>>739410356Wat
>>739410413Not a counter argument. Come up with something better.
>>739410356>>739410449nobodys pc was actually bricked. what actually happened was that riot updated their anticheat to prevent the game from launching if you're using a 6000 dollar cheating device. you could've found this information by spending 5 seconds on google
>>739410356It's more like saying if we criminalize child abuse then eventually people will get sent to jail for putting their kids in timeout. That's a fairer analogy to an external hardware no legit user is going to have and be using like this getting blocked by Windows being turned into your computer getting bricked for saying nigger.
>>739410206the response to the argument is that your argument is wrong because the things you say happened, did not in fact happen. total retard schizo moment
>>739410356gendered bathrooms are a fucking retarded concept any way, it's always a giant line for one and nothing for the other. Every bathroom area should be 5-10 single stalls that any one can use with 1ft of concrete between the walls and a giant deadbolt door so you can shit in peace
>>739410489Time out isn't child abuse. Your dad throwing a baseball at your face because he wanted to go smoke crack then spend time with his son is child abuse.
>>739387334I'd be okay with a convicted child molester getting murdered. I think most people would be.
>>739410564...That's part of the point, anon...
>>739410472Most of the posts you're seeing quoting the "muh bricking" narrative ARE cheaters intentionally spreading their own misinformation.
>>739410602I need serious help dude.
>>739410645At least you realized and acknowledged it after it was pointed out. That makes you better than most anons.
>>739387396I once bricked in my computer and it stopped working.
>>739388369Cortana, is this real?
>>739387142>should (crossing the line) happen to (people I don't like)no, what's stoping them from doing the same to you afterwards
(You) don't cheat because it's morally dubiousI don't, because i care about my PC security and my powerful 3rd party AV would flag and remove itWe are not the same.
>>739387142People pay $6,000 for a computer? all of my guns combined don't cost that much and I overpaid for the match rifle I have due to coof. I don't think all of my camera stuff costs that much combined either
>>739412706no, it's a device you plug into your computer to cheat at video games.
>>739387142honestly yes. they've ruined every multiplayer game in existence
>>739412760wait, they have separate cheat computers?
>>739412823it's not a seperate pc. it's something they plug into their pc.
>>739387142you shouldn't have Riot's chinese spyware installed on your system in the first place and 99% of the time this is genuinely unacceptable behavior from a company in any other context, especially going out of their way to gloat about it onlinethat being said, cheating faggots are still cheating faggots and if you're going so far out of your way that you're spending thousands of dollars on hardware just to cheat at Riot's shitty games you absolutely had this coming
>Let the immigrants in! They are never gonna pour acid on MY face, I'm good person after all.
>>739387730We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Until then let me glad post about cheaters getting pwned, anime faggot.
>>739387245This. No really, just have servers that allow cheating and others that don't. Caught cheating on a clean server? Banned. Go play on the filthy cheat server. You still get to play the game, just the way you have been and on a server you should've been on in the first place. Same for all actions that you'd want to be bannable. Severs for no naughty language and servers for screaming racial slurs as much as you want, etc.
Let's say, hypothetically, I cheated in a game you like playing, and we were online at the same time. What would I have to do for you to honestly say, from the bottom of your heart>Yeah, fuck this guy. He needs to be permabannedas opposed to being upset and maybe not playing for an hour or two until I pissed off?
>>739415737Cheating at all, basically. I have no tolerance for it, but I still wouldn't want them to nuke your hardware for whatever reason knowing they'd have the same capability to do it to me by accident.
yes. napalm cheaters. roundhouse kick cheater hardware into the sun.
>spending $6000 to cheat in vidyaand you're telling me people shitting on that are the problem
>>739387142cheaters are why I don't play multiplayer pvp any more. I remember when hackers were a novelty now they are everywhere. They've ruined the ecosystem of online pvp.
>>739415737the fact that you're a cheating faggot automatically registers a 'get banned' from me because you I and everyone involved know damn well you'd just try to figure out a way to do it again otherwisehowever there is a line and shitting up someone's physical hardware is over it because that shouldn't be an 'option' for any company, not a single one of them is trustworthy
>>739415737>Yeah, fuck this guy. He needs to be permabannedFor me to say that you would have to have caught me in such a jolly mood.I'd want your bloody and painful death.
>>739387730dude i know i hate that things are being more and more censored and i have to learn new words for insults
Installing a piece of software that has that kind of ability regardless if you cheat or not just sounds like a Recipe for Disaster.
This whole shitfest is peak misinformation hysteria
>>739417676It genuinely opened my eyes in how fucking tech illiterate the "average" PC gamer is.For some reason I convinced myself they were better than console players, but apparently not.
>>739417676>Well, that escalated quickly.
>>739417676from riot's side>we cannot impact your PC's functionality in any other fashionyes you can, you have a signed kernel driver with RCE capabilitiesthey have more freedom than the actual owner of the PC
>plugging in a piece of hardware from chang that directly reads/writes to memoryFuck that.
>>739387142Anyone who plays ass faggots deserves their PC bricked.
>>739387142So what happens when there is a false positive and that rootkit malware destroys someone's by "mistake"?
>look it up, it's just dlls associated to some DMA cards being blockedWhy gloat over "bricking" anything if you're just going to damage control right after? Now a bunch of timmies believe their shootytooty games have the potential of bricking their ipads, and someone might be replaced by one of those AI lobsters to avoid this sort of PR disaster
It's funny that Riot goes this hard on cheaters but doesn't give a shit about people making 50 smurfs to content farm for Youtube.
>>739398862if this poster isnt from st petersburg ill eat a bowl of shit
>>739417951Not my problem since I don't install shitty chinese software on my PC
I had constant bluescreens on my computer until I completely uninstalled vanguard and valorant.
>>739397609You are the dumbest fucking nigger in this entire thread
but people getting banned for nothing happens all the time>pick up money a cheater dropped - banned>get healed by a cheater - ban>get killed by a cheater - ban because the detection system freaked out when it saw you negative trillion hpnow imagine instead of getting banned you get your head smashed by a sledgehammer
>>739387142>Do you hate cheaters enough to want a company to be able to remotely damage people's devices?Yep. Stop cheating.If you ruin the game I paid 60 dollars for that piece of shit you paid 6000 dollars for should also get ruined.
>>739420345how about just running an anti virus that deletes some of vanguard's registry causing their anti cheat to freak out and bluescreen your PC?
>>739417962>Why gloat over "bricking" anything if you're just going to damage control right after?They thought their playerbase and the internet in general was smarter and more tech literate than they actually are.
>>739420437>They thought their playerbase was smarterthey play fucking League of Legends and Valorant.
>>739387245this. it's literally a free solution
>>739420487Hey, I didn't say it was a reasonable assumption.
>>739417951This is not a situation where a false positive could affect a legitimate player. No legitimate players are running DMA hardware. And they could fix their "bricked" DMA hardware by doing an OS reinstall anyway.
>>739387142no one should have that power
>>739420393>running "anti virus scans" in 2026deserved for being such tech illiterate cattle desu
>>739387142>reee riot messed the custom and purpose built cheating hardware that I paid $6k for get fucked
>>739387952Holy shit aliens are real
>>739423183They don't call them 'illegal aliens' for nothing
>>739387142No. I like seeing cheats that do crazy things to the game but everyone only uses it to auto-win which is shitty and kind of sad. The cheating hate is also kind of crazy to me because people are far more vitriolic about cheaters than with any other type of "wrongdoer" in the online world and it's considered socially acceptable too, even pedophiles get more sympathy as needing help to kick off their urges. Maybe I haven't encountered enough rage-inducing russians going "xaxaxa ez" after instantly headshotting the entire map
>>739399147Nigger it is already becoming 2084. It has already become.
>>739387142Most certainlyI'd like to kill each and everyone of themHowever false positives exist and make it impossible
>cheat devices getting bricked>not computers, literal actual cheat devices>MUH PRECEDENCE THEY'LL BRICK YOUR COMPUTER NEXT MUH PRECEDENCESorry, indian and/or chink. You cheated. You're also playing a riot game, so you double deserved it. Get fucked.
>>739387205fpbo
>>739425748not only this, they don't even get bricked unless you consider being unable to use them for one specific game a brick. these devices will still work for every other game.
>>739398481><people you personally dislike>Anon... that's the point.
>>739387334>so what if it's illegal?nothing illegal was done.
>>739387730Just don't say nigger lmao
>>739399147corporate shill detected
>>739417962>Why gloat over "bricking"They didn't. The cheaters were the ones who started using that word, specifically to spread misinformation and make right look bad.
>>739425339>even pedophiles get more sympathy as needing help to kick off their urgesThat's only under the assumption the person doesn't want to act on it or even feel it and has not hurt anybody. People would likely be sympathetic to a hypothetical cheater who said that he can't resist the urge to cheat and that he doesn't play online games for that reason. But, even if those people exist, the only ones anybody has ever seen are the ones reveling in ruining other people's free time and having meltdowns when they're banned, and it's also not exactly an issue anybody is going to rally behind or bring up because they can just not play.Like most 'wrongdoers' online can literally just be ignored and it's ultimately your fault for engaging with them and wasting your energy. Cheaters actively go and try to ruin what other people do for enjoyment and to spend time with their friends after they get off work. Most cultures also consider sportsmanship and fairplay to be very important values. Is it really a surprise they get a lot of hate?
>>739426581You make a fair point, though I wouldn't really call what people do after work "enjoyment" considering the sort of games where cheaters are generally found nowadays
>>739397543>There is no history of falsepositives.DeadbyDaylight has had a rising problem over they years with tantrum players griefing the game or ragequitting at the slightest arbitrary inconvenience, where now if you play a killer that is not beloved, most of your games will be blowouts from people who queued up now refusing to play.To combat this, they made a system that would try to detect players who gave up and wernt progressing the game and give harsh penalties.This led to people who were tunneled out (a strategy that is pretty intuitive for the killer to do) to get banned because they were not allowed to work on objectives.
>>739427057>I wouldn't really call what people do after work "enjoyment" considering the sort of games where cheaters are generally found nowadaysCheaters are found in all sorts of games, even casual ones though. There was some cheap game mixing russian roulette with poker and liar's dice that had to add an anticheat by the playerbase's request because people were just making it so they could see cards. And people do enjoy competitive games even if you don't.
>>739387142No, so it's a good thing no companies are doing that
>>739387142No, because I believe in property rights.
>>739415737I'd cut your hand off. Realistic speaking if you get caught you should pay 10$k fine or forced to penal labor.
>>739387142Cheating on single player games or to not pay for something, i dont care, go crazy with it but the momment your cheating affects me , outside of the basic rules or mechanics of the game (might include exploits too), then you deserve to get waterboarded.
>>739427174okay cool story, but what does that have to with anticheat?
>>739387730I only wish physical harm on cheaters, their accounts and hardware should remain untouched.
>>739387245>back in the day we just had dedicated serversHow to tell me your a racist jew hating anti semite without telling me your a racist jew hating anti semite and also an inshell
>>739394806Look up the new 2b2t rules and it getting fucked by mojang if you want to look like a stupid contrarian faggot
I use a hacked client in minecraft and I even do it on servers where its not supposed to be allowedProblem? the mods and admins pretty much use cheats why can't I? its all fairgame
>>739387334fifth post best postthread should've ended here
>>739394806>host your own server>whoops we engineered the game in such a way that is impossible, you must log into our slop servers to play your single player experience and the game will die when we stop supporting itYou should probably just kill yourself
>>739387205Fpbp
>>739387245And shit would become unplayable the moment you gained the attention of a turbo autistNostalgia is hell of a drugSome mmos straight up died because you couldn't even login without getting map nuked but some chink who decided his entire purpose in life was making a game unplayable
>>739387334Repeat this but about minorities and trans people
>>739387142>I don’t particularly like shoplifters, so I propose immediate death penalties for shoplifters with AI detection and a microchip surgically inserted into everyone’s brain that kills them if AI detects your thoughts being those of shoplifter>Punishments fitting the crime?>Massive breach of privacy?>False positives killing innocent people?You know, there is probably a less invasive way to deal with shoplifters that actually fits the crime they’re doing and wouldn’t severally punish innocent people by accident.
>>739427495>people do enjoy competitive gamesAlmost every single time I hear about most competitive games it's>it's fun with friends, don't bother playing without friends it's miserable>fuck these subhumans in my team>fuck these smurfs in the enemy team>the balance is retarded>the balance is good you're just a low rank scrub check my high rank after 3000 hours of playing>game put me into forced 50 how am I going to increase my rank which I use for self-esteem>game doesn't have forced 50 you just need to play 300 matches if your winrate is above 50% otherwise you're exactly where you need to be>YO they just dropped a new 30 dollar skin it looks AWESOME>this game fucking sucksThe only time I see people expressing any sort of positive emotion is when they're getting paid making video content for the game or when they got to stomp enemies and don't remember how the game feels otherwise.
>>739432950>People online say dumb, hyperbolic shit so clearly nobody out of millions and millions of people actually enjoy any competitive gameAlright.
>>739433393Most people are casuals who don't want to find better games, I thought that was a given.
>>739433393At some point, it stops being hyperbolic and only a few people. It’s like how Zoomers are complaining about the current job market and economy. After hearing the same thing from the 5,000th person, it might not be outliers or exaggerations, and an actual problem.
>>739389065>/v/ermin are really defending Riot being able to destroy your computer now?Uh no I'm definding Riot being able to destroy their customer's computers.
you shouldn't be installing riot's spyware at all but in this very specific case where they are directly targeting cheating hardware you literally have to go out of your way to get and it's not touching actual regular players the cheaters do in fact deserve it and worse>buh buh what if it happens to you!!!it wouldn't happen to me because I'm not a faggot cheater going out of my way to get special cheating equipment just to keep cheatingin every other situation fuck riot they shouldn't have kernel-level access to anyone's shit
>should a company be able to burn your house if you cheat in a fucking videogame?kill youself wojak
>>739387142Cheaters are faggots and deserve cruel and unusual punishment. You can't even break the rules for a meaningful cause or out of actual necessity. You're just being disruptive faggots because your ego is so pathetic it can't handle even the tiniest adversity. It's actual nigger pathology.
>>739387142>Do you hate cheaters enough to want a company to be able to remotely damage people's devices?yes
>>739415737I unironically wouldn't even feel a pang of guilt if you were killed on the spot for cheating at a multiplayer video game.
>>739387334retard
>>739387690what a fucking moron
>>739387730Feds bots and corpo backers jumping anyone with a ounce of dissent makes me believe you have the right opinion."Just dont play riot games" is not good enough of an option.People need representation
Yes, just because fuck everyone that isn't me, you deserve worse.
I would approve the state sending police to shoot hackers in the head, I hate them that much
>day one>corpo allowed to destroy your hardware for hacking in video games>day one thousand>corpo allowed to destroy your hardware for saying gg ez>day 3000>corpo allowed to cut your cock off for spamming ''medic''people who scream to big brother to save them deserve whats coming
>>739439424What hardware was destroyed in this story?A company updating their anti-cheat system so that your $6000 cheatbox doesn't work with their game any more isn't "destroying your hardware".
>>739387142I want cheaters equipment broken yes, but I don't want a system with so many known misfires like Riot's Vanguard to mess with peoples computers at all.I'm on Linux anyway because I respect my rights, so wincels can all get bricked as far as I care.
>>739439613>thinking corpos wouldnt do thatalready happened with apple and google phones
>>739439825Still not hearing what hardware was destroyed here.
>>739387918>damage to property that obviously occurredwhat was the damage?
>>739440634by legal definition you could bring this either criminal or civil, all it takes is to prove that Riot fucked your winblows to the point you had to format and reinstall, civil is easier since the burden of proof is way less onerous
>>739441216>all it takes is to prove that Riot fucked your winblows to the point you had to format and reinstalland has this actually been proven to have happened to anyone anywhere?
Why is it that all the people who call riot a chinese company and insist that vanguard is "chinese spyware" that shouldn't be trusted under any circumstances see no issue whatsoever with plugging a $6000 cheating peripheral from a chinese company directly into your motherboard? Seems like a funny double-standard to have.
>>739441361i'm not the person you replied to, it's for him to substantiate, still worth to point out that the bar is actually way lower than a perma brick so we might see some action there
>>739441527Why is it that you niggers never consider that both are a bad thing? Like fuck cheaters, but maybe don't give a corporation the power to constantly scan your PC for whatever reason.Nah, you have to be in [camp 1] or [camp 2] and you MUST defend your side and fight the other guys. Argument must continue. And I'm gonna be called a centrist for saying this, too.Kill yourself.
>>739415737Cheating at all retard.You scum were a non-issue when community servers were a thing as you would be instantly permabanned from any server you started doing your shit in. Then again, it wasn't as pathetic because at least you didn't have to pay for the cheats back then.
