1 > 2 > 3 > 4

>>739405161
2>1>>>3 challenge mode>4>>3 campaign

>>739405161
4 is by far the most complete game and has most variety, and is actually the only sequel that offers and kind of evolution to the concept. 1 is the most significant game in the series to experience which is convenient since it's so short. It's the most unique Pikmin game still and arguably the only one that achieved the real intend of the series.

2 and 3 are more of the same with little significance or impact to both the series and as experiences to a player.

>>739405161
2>1>4>3

4 would be higher if it didn’t have so many tutorials and wasn’t so easy

>>739405535
how can you say pikmin 2 didn't do anything to the formula? it added dungeon crawling which was the most fun addition even if some of the dungeons were bullshit

>>739405535
2 has far better combat and bossfights than 1, and the caves are a ton of fun, and more than make up for the weaker overworld. Caves are a majority of the game though, so if you don't like caves, you won't like 2.

3 and 4 are both soulless, casualized micromanagement slop that completely remove the appeal of the games. 3 challenge mode is mildly fun and creative because and is actually challenging enough to be interesting, but the campaign of both are a total pushover even on max difficulty so there is no stakes or challenge or weight to anything you do, it's just going through the motions mindlessly throwing Pikmin that function more as perfect tools than living creatures.

>>739405161
4>3>1>2

>>739405839
You got them facing the wrong way

1 > 4 > 3 > 2. The caves in Pikmin 2 are dogshit and completely miss the point of Pikmin.

>>739405161
2 > 4 Fierce > 1 > 3

I rank 4 high mainly because I played it on Fierce on my first playthrough which really elevated the difficulty after the third area and because of the sheer amount of content it had, even with its many flaws such as non-respawnable enemies and a relatively average set of bosses. I think there's no bad Pikmin game, but 3 has the least amount of replay value, even if it has some of the best bosses in the whole franchise, it's too short and easy to 100%.

I really hope there's no Oatchi-like in the next game, they overcomplicated the menus and made it too easy to not get punished for your mistakes.

How does one get into pikmin?

>>739405161
Wii 2 > Wii 1 > lets go pikmin > gamecube 1
didnt play the rest

>>739406019
if you don't have a wii/wiimote don't bother. if you do just play 2 for the wii and that's it

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>>739405962
>but a giant fucking dog that completely trivializes any challenge or danger, forced auto-aim that completely neuters a major aspect of combat, gutting pikmin swarm mechanics, and pikmin that act as perfect tools does not
holy retard

>>739406120
Any game with randomized "dungeons" are automatically worse with zero exceptions.

>>739405613
>>739405712
The caves are an impurity added to a pure concept. I do think some caves are fun, but the feeling of doing one cave, coming back to the surface and then going to the next cave feels very very wrong. I would describe the feeling of it like doing checklist content of a modern game. Most of them feel like they are purely made to extend game time and offer no real substance. The time you spend in caves versus the surface damages the immersion and atmosphere immensely.

4 mixed it up well. You did some cave content, then surface, then dandori, olimar's quest. The atmosphere was shit too but the sheer variety was way more fun to me.

>>739406019
Just play 1 or 2, remake is fine, but originals are better especially for 2. Some people say Wii controls better but I've always hated motion controls and gamecube controls fine.

You should have a hacked Wii with Wii2HDMI adapter, as they are only like $20 to play the entire library of Wii and GCN natively, but you can also emulate as well.

>>739406229
Pikmin on Wii does not even use motion controls. A pointer is not motions controls.

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theyre all kino

I don't know why 1 feels so satisfying while 3 feels like "that's it?" at the end. 2 and 4 are automatically dogshit by adding pocket dimensions to a game that is all about the world.

>>739406214
The random generation makes it so you can't just memo the entire cave and enemy layouts. The caves still very much have their own identity and it's almost all handcrafted, it just has small elements of randomization to keep you on your toes instead of braindead memorization of layouts.

>>739406219
>muh pure concept
fuck off midwit. Pikmin 2 is a refinement and takes it in a new (and far better for many) direction, not to mention Pikmin 1 has a lot of issues with hitboxes, glitches (crushing esp), and wonky Pikmin AI, and Pikmin 2 vastly improves all of this while not removing the essence of its design. I do think Pikmin 2 should have still had a timer though, and I think it was originally intended to have one based off the letters you receive.

And all of this goes out the window when you are also defending Pikmin 3 and 4, you're just a dumbass.

>>739406219
>The caves are an impurity added to a pure concept.
this but oatchi

The more Louie the game has the worse it is.

>>739406472
>muh refinement
Pikmin 2 feels like dog shit to play with the two added Pikmin types and the second character. The refinement of old mechanics is 15% while the shit added to manage is 100%. So everything feels way worse.

>>739406229
nah better to get a pc motion sensor and emulate

>>739406472
The caves are shit because they save every floor. Even if you fuck up spectacularly you can reset the game and try again. You don't have to memorize anything. They ruin the whole game.

>>739406229
>motion controls
it's pointer controls, it's basically like using a mouse

>>739406420
>it's all about the world
>except the caves, those aren't part of the world for some reason (???)
The caves have far better atmosphere, challenge, combat, and bossfights than the overworld from any of the games, although the downside is that the overworld of Pikmin 2 is underwhelming (and has no time limit so you can hyperoptimize with no penalty), but at least it's far better than anything in 3 or 4.

I actually just wish we would have got a Pikmin 3 on Gamecube that was purely caves with a greater focus on dungeon crawling, combat, and enemy/boss design

>>739405161
You already posted the objectively correct ranking. The most important aspect of game is how much it sold. The free market decided that Pikmin 4 is the best and Pikmin 2 is the worst.

>>739406616
Yes, the caves are just randomly generated video game levels with random as fuck themes, they are not part of a coherent world.

>>739406636
nba2k26 goty

2>1>Power Gap>4>3
Use Squared to play 1, it's got a bunch of bugfixes and an extra campaign, avoid the Switch versions since they're censored as well as the Wii versions since they're more buggy and break balance with being able to throw Pikmin farther than intended with pointer controls.

>>739405161
3 > 4 > 1

Didn't play 2.

>>739406802
pikmin isn't censored pussy. and lets go underrated

>>739406543
Pikmin 2 feels far better than the first game in terms of mechanics, Pikmin AI, swarm mechanics, and no frequent glitches. Purples and Whites are both fine and have a niche without making the whole game feel like rock, paper, scissors. Also, purples aren't really that OP as they throw slower, have an awkward throw arc, and move very slow; they are high risk, high reward. And the second character isn't used all that often, just allows some slight pathing optimization and a few boss mechanics, not nearly as bad as it is in Pikmin 3.

>>739406586
Just... don't do that? It's like saying Souls is shit because you can immediately turn the game off when you die before it saves. Or all retro games are shit because you have the temptation of save states/rewind. And the random layout does help with that, at least you have to redo the whole floor and with a different layout as punishment for savescumming.

But what's the alternate, no saving at all the entire cave? Only allowed like 1-2 manual saves? Either way, you would just find something to bitch about.

>>739406873
Pikmin 2 absolutely got censored on Switch.

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2>1>the rest aren’t aesthetically compatible (don’t exist)

>>739406739
The best selling game of this year is actually Resident Evil Requiem, but yes, nba2k is better than whatever indie trannyslop you've been playing on steam.

>>739406723
They only have slight elements of randomization just to keep each run fresh and prevent you from learning exact layouts of everything. Each cave has its own distinct theme, hazards, enemies, bosses, treasures, etc. that are unique to that cave.

I swear you fucking morons just hear randomly-generated and instantly lose your minds and think the devs just hit the big "randomly generate me an entire level" button for each cave.

>>739406901
The mechanics are better and more refined but they don't make up for the complexity added in management. It's fine that everything is simpler in 1 because the things you have to do are simple. Now compare everything in 1 for example to the final boss in 2. You fucking have to break your hands with the amount you have to manage there. The little bit of refinement is not nearly enough to make it feel good compared to the complexity added to manage. So you still get a game that feels at large chunks way more frustrating to play.

I only played 4 and fear the QoL will make previous entries more annoying than challenging

>>739405161
2 > 1 > 3 > 4

4 hurts the most because with some tweaks to level design and a big ass balance revamp it could be the best one, but it's a stinky baby game for stinky babies.

>>739406912
>>739406903
muh flavor text
>>739406978
sadge

>>739405161
1 > 2 > 4 > 3

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>>739407120
also all the name branding was changed

>>739407061
The complexity is a positive. 2 is a far harder game than 1 with far better combat and bossfights, and really fun and challenging dungeon crawling. This is a GOOD thing, you realize? Sequels actually used to be harder and more refined for fans of the first game, instead of being casualized and more accessible slop for the masses.

The only complaint you can really levy against 2 is the lack of a timer, which a) it was probably originally intended to have a timer but it was removed late in development for being too frustrating b) Pikmin 1's timer is an absolute joke past your very first playthrough and mostly just serves to create tension before you realize it's a very reasonable time limit that you will have no issues meeting and c) you can just impose your own challenge/time limit, you don't need to hyperoptimize everything and take months to beat the game just because it technically allows you

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>>739407120
Yes, Pikmin fans are, in fact, quite fond of how much character thew flavor text adds. Olimar is Nintendo's most fleshed out protagonist entirely because of the journals, notes, and emails.

>>739407112
4 is goyslop for lobotomized retards.

Just play 2, it's actually a good videogame and you will learn the mechanics quick unless you're a born in 3D ADHD zoomer tard who cries when the game doesn't play itself.

So 1+2 is fine to go for if I want to try this series, right? No weird remaster/updated version bullshit?

>>739405161
>you can see the SOVL vanish from the logo in real time

>>739406019
>download dolphin
>download pikmin 2 GC
>download pikmin 1^2 (squared) romhack
>play the romhack for the objectively best way to play pikmin 1
>play pikmin 2
>(optional) play pikmin 3
>skip 4

>>739407371
>>739406912
emulate the GC versions and use Squared for 1

>>739407371
If that's what will make you play them, they are fine. Most of the shit missing in 2 is flavortext that adds to the atmosphere but doesn't really affect core gameplay. Although I think they technically did adjust the throw arc/distance slightly but most people wouldn't really realize. But GCN is still the best version.

>>739407314
your hyperbole does not sell 2

>>739407112
>the QoL
it's a completely different type of game. there's no "QoL". the PS1 games have auto-aim ffs

>>739407267
80% of content in Pikmin 2 is easy slop. Just because overall there are harder segments doesn't mean the whole experience isn't flawed. I bet it's the least replayed Pikmin game because it's so fucking tiresome to replay.

>>739407371
wii versions are fine and preferable if you have it
>>739407254
3ds pikmin had that corny in game ad shit. it was gay

>>739407637
Good, it's not for you then. Go play God of Onions or Spider-Man or something you fucking fag.

>>739405161
1 is dogshit only fun part is the final boss
2 is 1 but even more dogshit and the game heavily relies on enemies popping out of nowhere and fucking your dudes when you are in a cave and you can't get new pikmins. its completely anti fun

didnt play the rest

>>739405161
Pikmin 4 is peak
Pikmin 3 is great
Pikmin 2 is good
Pikmin 1 exists

>>739405161
4 > 3 > 2 > 1

Would rate 9.5 > 9.0 > 8.5 > 8.0, respectively

>>739407767
The overworld section is pretty easy, but most of the caves are pretty challenging and that's the bulk of the game, and even the easier caves can easily fuck you over if you're not playing carefully. It's overall a far harder game than Pikmin 1, both moment-to-moment and in its extremes.

But is this just coming down to you complaining about the lack of timer yet again? You think Pikmin 1 is always hard because technically you can't take your time and have to make pace? Just let it go man.

>>739405161
2 > 4 = 1 > 3
I really hope they just swallow their pride and launch the next game with Spicy Mode included from the start.

Is 4's hard mode worth another run? Haven't played the game since launch.

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>>739407952
stupid ass fucking zoomer with shit taste and retarded opinions, kys

>>739408005
You are the only one continuously bringing up the timer, I think I have literally not mentioned it once. I just know Pikmin 1 is short but there is also no unnecessary fat and Pikmin 2 is full of shit dungeons. I would say the game has less than 10 challenging caves. The rest is just going trough the motions.

>>739408064
it buffs enemies so they don't die in one rush and have faster attack patterns, but also reduces your max number of Pikmin which is annoying and only really makes things more tedious, I'd say it's worth playing through again since you can finally turn off auto-aim and skip the annoying tutorial section

>>739408110
>9/14 caves are challenging
Wow, you really showed me. And compared to Pikmin 1 that has only a handful of mildly difficult parts the entire game?

>>739408064
It's still got Oatchi and the dogshit map design and non-respawning enemies
So no

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How to elevate what 4 was going for with Oachi without making shit too OP:
>Multiple Captains (2 - 4).
>Each Captain has one or two special abilities which make them unique.
>One captain might be able to throw Pikmin higher / further or passively buffs Pikmin damage, for example.
>None of these abilities are mandatory for progression, but figuring out the best way to utilise them is key to decreasing your overall day count.
Thoughts?

>>739405161
1 >= 3 > 4 > 2
1 is jank but the most pure experience, the Squared mod which fixes that jank blows every other game out of the water
3 is nostalgia bias, campaign is flawed but replayable, mission mode is arguably the meat of the game
4 is a monkey paw that improves what I disliked about 2, but rapes many other mechanics into being unfun, at least the Olimar side campaign is good
2 is the furthest from what I like about the series, even if it plays better than 4

>>739405161
2 > 1 > 3
Didn't play 4 or the deluxe version of 3

>>739406219
I'm with you on that one, caves are just a different game altogether, no time pressure, different atmosphere, focus on combat instead of exploring.
It's not even a question of if I like it, it's just way too different so I can't enjoy both at the same time.

>>739408240
I admit in my head there were more than 13 because you just endlessly are in caves the entire game. I'm not arguing that Pikmin 2 is not far more challenging than 1. Just that Pikmin 2 is the far more bloated, unfocused and imperfect experience.

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>>739405161
1 > 3 > 4 > 2

1 is mechanically the worst of the 3, but I think it's the most solid game of the lot. It's short and sweet, you are encouraged to do repeat playthroughs to optimize how many days it takes to complete the game, it has the most charming writing in the series besides 2, and, IMO, it's the most balanced of the 4 games because each Pikmin has an important roll to play.

It's also one of the few games where I can picture basically the whole thing in my head because it's so short and compact. When I replay the other Pikmin games I feel like I discover something new every time.

>>739408082
now post boomer licking toilet seat

>>739408082
>Poor enemy variety
>Any difficulty is purely artificial due to a lack of QoL
>Too few levels, which are too small & simplistic, to a fault
>Saying it had "bosses" would be generous
>Generally too easy overall

NTA, but I played and beat Pikmin 1 on release, and thought it was great, but it's objectively aged the worst, and the sequels have only improved on the formula:
Getting the best medals in Pikmin 3/4 offers far greater challenge and strategy than anything in Pikmin 1.

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>>739406019
Play literally any of the games. The only game that is more than tangentially connected to the others is 2.

It's the most beginner friendly RTS franchise out there. You don't need to worry about what version you're picking up unless you're that concerned with what controller you're using.

>>739407294
Speaking of characters, I don't think /v/ is ready to acknowledge that (some of) 4's NPCs actually do have that Pikmin charm to them. It's not evenly distributed, just because there's way too many of them, but shit like the vapid streamer girl or the property tycoon looking to earn easy cash developing an unkown planet feel appropriately cynical. I say this as one of 5 people who has exhausted all of the dialogue for each character, though, that I wish they'd cut out maybe 1/3rd of them and focussed that effort on making the main crew more memorable.

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>>739408346
>1 is the worst, but I'm blinded by nostalgia
can't take you retards seriously

>>739408450
I'm not arguing 1 isn't more focused or pick up and play experience, that is its main appeal is that its short, almost proof of concept, game that executes a simple idea well (although it's also buggy/janky as hell, and too simple when you know the game).

My point is that a sequel should flesh out, refine, expand upon, and make more challenging the original game, which Pikmin 2 absolutely did. And personally the caves are my favorite part of the entire series, I would love an entire game with nothing but caves.

If anything, the main flaw is that Pikmin 2 didn't double down further on caves, because the overworld sections of 2 are a bit underwhelming, although including a timer (or challenging yourself to do it in X days) does help somewhat, because I feel like you need *something* to encourage you to just not hyperoptimize constantly when you have all the time in the world.

>>739408705
I called 3 my nostalgia bias game, you speedreading retard

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>>739406978
Game of the Year is basically a lock for Mewgenics unless something bullshit happens like how Silksong stole GOTY from E33 last year.

>>739405161
Look at those numbers, then come to understand that the people who put 4 anywhere but lowest in their ranking played it as their first pikmin game

>>739405161
1 > 4 > 3 > 2

>>739407112
The other games play perfectly fine. In fact, I'd say that even with all of the QoL improvements that Pikmin 4 is the hardest game in the series unless you abuse the rewind (don't do this unless you're bitchmade).

I think the only game you could have trouble getting into is Pikmin 1, and that's because the game is less forgiving. You have a hard time limit and are required to aim to beat the game.

>>739408561
>Getting the best medals in Pikmin 3/4 offers far greater challenge and strategy than anything in Pikmin 1.
It's also incredibly dull and soulless and completely removes the entire appeal and essence of the game, turning it into a shitty APM RTS where you just rapid-fire swap between captains every five seconds before auto-targeting your perfect pikmin tools and chucking them at the enemy before immediately swapping away.

Pikmin 1 and 2 are much more about positioning, swarm management, proper routing, careful planning, proper aiming/throw arc, and dynamically adapting to dangerous enemies.

>>739408902
>Pikmin 4 is the hardest game in the series
these chatgpt bots are getting wild

>>739408735
It's legitimate. You value the dungeons and the refinement and the bigger focus on combat. I value the atmosphere, the tight experience and the sense of isolation, the true uniqueness of the first game that seems lost on every sequel. There is no objective metric to seek out that could overwrite what we personally value.

>>739408968
>Pikmin 4
>soulless
what a shitter

>>739408636
The skeevy salesman guy for the treasure catalog was great, the UwU pwecious bean faggot for the monsters was godawful.

>>739407254
imagine if this was reversed, you fags would be up in arms that they erased a cool battery design

>>739408902
Pikmin 1 is ass because the game has retard levels of jank compared to the much better polished Pikmin 2

>>739409004
2 still has great atmosphere though, arguably better than the first game, with all the flavor text in the letters and item descriptions, and some of the caves like submerged castle and shower room.

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>>739408705
Some games are just better being short. Pikmin is still longer than the average Mega Man game and Mega Man games are still beloved.

The game being shorter and more refined due to its limited scope makes it a perfect "replay this game when you have nothing else to do" candidate. I have to be in the mood to replay a longer game, but Pikmin 1 is beatable in an afternoon.

4>2>1>3
1 is basically a tech demo
2 is way better but is still retarded at times
3 is fun but pretty soulless
4 is just the best of all worlds

>>739409025
nigga even the logo is utterly soulless. Pikmin 1 and 2 had edge and character, Pikmin 4 is just sterile, lobotomized, inoffensive slop like everything modern Nintendo churns out.

>>739408983
It took me longer to beat all the challenges in 4 than it took me to beat 3 + all of its challenges.

> Pikmin 1
i grow up with the danm game so i will love it until the end of eternity
> Pikmin 2
played a little as a adult in the wii version but never hooked me the same as the first one
> Pikmin 3
i like it, would say that of the 4 is the most difficult and the final area is simple an ancient chinese torture
> Pikmin 4
another one that i love, yes is easier but is also the amalgamation of everything in Pikmin, if they would have release a “classic” mode during launch it would have been the 1 pikmin game for me

>>739409194
pretty much the entire pikmin community would agree with you, but i guess that's your whole point

>>739409220
Pikmin 3 campaign is utterly braindead easy. I was shocked how easy the bosses are even on max difficulty, the game practically plays itself.

The challenge modes are hard, but that's mainly due to the fact that you have to nonstop juggle three captains in the exact sequence of most optimal actions and perfectly optimize all their movements in order to get the best times. But the actual mechanics of managing the Pikmin and combat is completely neutered and braindead compared to 1 and 2.

>>739409116
I don't know even know how this opinion can exist. The premise of the first game is being stranded on an alien planet, pure survival. The second game is "lmao we are in debt let's go to that alien planet for treasures".

>>739405161
In terms of most likely to replay

1>3>4>2

>>739409338
It's still a strange and hostile planet that you explore (in search of treasure, not survival)
Yes, no one would disagree that 1 has the better atmosphere between the two
but 3 and especially 4 just completely kill the atmosphere

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>>739409338
>The premise of the first game is being stranded on an alien planet, pure survival

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I unironically went into 4 thinking I would hate it. Didn't even buy the game. My sister bought it for me for my birthday.

Ended up loving it. It felt to me like how New Super Mario Bros felt to me as a 2D platformer fan back in 2006. Yeah, it feels a bit soulless, but as long as they don't milk the game with 4+ sequels in 6 years it'll be remembered fondly in a decade because the game is just that quality.

>>739409442
>spongecoaster
Peak "I don't have an argument for rebuttal, but I need to look smart"

>>739405265
fpbp.
>Pikmin 1 is peak Pikmin
>Pikmin 2 improves upon the first game in several ways, but loses major points by introducing the caves
>Pikmin 3 is just okay. Does some things well, and fucks up majorly in other ways
>Pikmin 4 is dogshit. It has the most content by far, and dandori battles are a nice addition, but the game is deeply flawed on a fundamental level, thanks in large part to Oatchi, the overpowered faggot who can do everything. It feels more like an "Oatchi game" than a "Pikmin game"

>>739409442
Honestly not sure what you are trying to say. The reason why it works is the same reason why "it was all a dream" endings can ruin an entire story.

>>739409442
Still better than rescuing streamers, hairstylists, and sight-seers in Pikmin 4

>>739405161
1 = 2 > 3 >>> 4
1 and 2 are great, for slightly different reasons but neither is really lesser
I don't actually remember anything about 3 so I guess it was meh
4 was dogshit, i went in open minded because the reception didnt seem that bad from what little i saw of it, but quickly i grew to hate it the more i played it
by the end i felt nothing but disgust for it
it wasn't enough to just ruin the gameplay with the lockon and the faggot dog, they also fucking had to retcon literally every bit of the lore. absolute abysmal dogshit

>>739409060
Yeah, I get what they were going for, but they should've made him more of a freak.

>>739405161
1 > 3 > 4 > 2
I think all four games are pretty good, though.

>>739409338
Honestly, that's the very reason Subnautica 1 is the only good game in its franchise. Rylay gets stranded on an alien planet. There are no guidebooks. No one has done it before except voluntarily for a TV program (in universe), and certainly not on an entirely water planet.

The only difference is that Pikmin 2 - 4 don't have worse gameplay even if the story is worse. In many ways, 1 is the worst Pikmin game because of the lack of content and the unrefined controls.

I really didn't like how the series slowly changed from a post-apocalyptic earth into magical fairy land with a fully powered and furnished house that you just wandered around in

>>739409520
>loses major points by introducing the caves
The caves are by far the best part of the game, the overworld sucks in comparison. Who the fuck allowed you retards to have an opinion?

>>739409698
Miyamoto has terrible taste. Every time there's something accidentally interesting in his games, he clarifies, "no, it's not interesting actually".

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I think it's neat how there is no generally considered worst or best game in the franchise. Everyone who has played all 4 games will rank them in a different order. Each is worth playing individually, and no matter when you start, or what game you start with, there are 3 more games for you to enjoy.

>>739405161
4 > 1 > 2 >>> 3

I used to be a 2 > 1 guy but as much as I like the new Pikmin the purple pikmin are just too strong. 4 is fucking amazing, had no hope after 3 but they made it happen.

>>739409698
yeah i hated that from pikmin 4, i guess that in theme of post-apocalyptic set ups pikmin 3 does it best with the earth continents displaced and the whole of "wtf is that" of enemies

>>739409698
>>739409748
Pikmin 1 - 3 Earth IS post-apocalyptic. Pikmin 4 is a different continuity (and a retelling of Pikmin 1 if you didn't notice)

>>739409756

agree, the whole saga is very enjoyable to play, and some games have elements you may like or dislike(like the time limit), so you can pick and choose which one to play

>>739406019
You don't. It's a game for tendies faggots manchildren. Play something more mature like Disco Elysium.

>>739405161
2 >= 1 >> the rest

>>739409702
The series is supposed to be about dandori. Dedicating a large part of the game to exploring caves where time is literally frozen defeats the whole point of the entire series. The caves are fun, but a gauntlet challenge like that should have maybe been a side mode, not part of the main game where time management is supposed to be key.
>the overworld sucks in comparison.
Yeah. That's the problem. The overworld is little more than a way to get from cave to cave since that's where the focus of the game is.

>>739405161
I like them all pretty much equally, each has their own strengths.

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>>739409660
All they really needed to do for their Piklopedia guy was this

I hate that if we get a new pikmin i will have to buy the switch 2

>>739405161
After 4, I think I'm done with Pikmin. 5 is going to go the same route as 4, so Pikmin is fucking dead.

Pikmin and Animal Crossing pretty much follow a similar progression. The first game nails it completely. The sequels keep adding content and refinement but they are also increasingly distancing themselves from the essence of the first game.

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>>739409871
I have played and greatly enjoyed both. Shut up, faggot.

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>>739405161
Has anyone emulated Pikimin 4? Does it run well?

>>739409970
I'm going to give Pikmin 5 a chance, but the second I see that faggot dog again, I'm out.

>>739409895
>the game is supposed to be about some gay reddit bullshit started in Pikmin 3
Kys zoomer retard

"Dandori" is incredibly dull and soulless and completely removes the entire appeal and essence of the game, turning it into a shitty APM RTS where you just rapid-fire swap between captains every five seconds before auto-targeting your perfect piklin tools and chucking them at the enemy before immediately swapping away.

Pikmin 1 and 2 are much more about positioning, swarm management, proper routing, careful planning, proper aiming/throw arc, and dynamically adapting to dangerous enemies, and 2 specifically really felt like a true dungeon crawler

>>739407371
No, just don't play it. It's just more gay baby children game for toddlers and stunted "adults". Play Disco Elysium instead.

>>739410018
>>the game is supposed to be about some gay reddit bullshit started in Pikmin 3
It was there from the first game, retard. Not even reading the rest of your gay post lmao

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>>739409958
I wanted to buy a Switch 2, but Nintendo killing Mario Kart 2 weeks after release kept me from buying it. Without that I probably would've bought it, Bananza, Tomodachi Life, and Yoshi.

Pikmin 5 is one of like 6 or 7 games Nintendo could release that would get me to buy a Switch 2 at this point, and even then I'd only do it after waiting to see the reviews.

>>739409895
>The series is supposed to be about dandori
If I hear the word dandori one more fucking time...
This dandori concept absolutely annihilated the series.
>game about carefully leading your army across a dangerous planet, taking on the dangerous wildlife
>turn it into a puzzle box with no interesting combat encounters because that would get in the way of dandori puzzles where you just fling pikmin at an enemy then switch to the other captain

>>739410018
>pikmin 2
>careful planning
Fucking lmao.

>>739409990
yes it does, i 100% on ryujix

1>3>2>4
I simply don't like caves.

>>739405265
this guy really wanted to be fippy bippy

>>739410080
I’m waiting for the new xenoblade and zelda before buying it and of course pikmin

>>739410143
And by god, he succeeded.

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>>739409951
>Visit post-game location.
>Find him bleeding out after being stabbed by one of these things.

>>739410078
>literally not a single mention of dandori anywhere in the archive prior to 2022
Kys bandwagon reddit retard

>>739410080
I pitched in $100 for a family Switch 2, so I just get to reap the benefits of that. Still looking for a good third party dock so I don't have to pay $125 for the damn official one.

>>739410078
>day/game timer to encourage no dawdling around uselessly and keeping pace
>the same as this retarded dandori shit in 3 and 4

>>739410078
>https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/dandori/page/85
>2113 mentions of "dandori"
>only 1 single mention prior to 2022 and it was some name of an OC or something totally unrelated to Pikmin
My mistake, it actually started with Pikmin 4. You are an even bigger bandwagon zoomer queer than I originally thought

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>>739410152
That's pretty much my list too, except I'd add on a new GOOD Metroid and Splatoon. Maybe Smash depending on how good it is, because I'm definitely too old to get into it competitively again, and my main (Ganondorf) is never going to be good after Melee.

>>739409194
oh well, don't enjoy peak then faggot

>>739410194
Anon, back in the day we just called it "time management." Just because Nintendo didn't start introducing the Japanese term to Western audiences until later in the series doesn't mean "time management" wasn't there from the beginning. The whole premise of the first game is "You have 30 days to collect your 30 ship parts." Whether you call it "time management" or "dandori", it's the same shit. You're acting like this is some new idea just because you got a new, foreign word thrown at you. What a retard.

>>739410290
3 started the concept, 4 gave it "dandori" branding and went hard on trying to force it

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>>739409338
2's atmosphere is just different. It's way more comedic than the original and really leans into this fact. How anyone can say 2 has a bad or no atmosphere when you get messages from your nagging wife or spam emails trying to scam you makes no sense to me. It really sells the feeling of being a haggard Japanese Salaryman surrounded by lazy and incompetent people.

>>739410381
ah the classic leftist rhetoric tactic of pretending to be retarded and not understanding a thing
in this case pretending to not know the difference in "time management" in 1/2 and 3/4

There are 24 possible permutations of the Pikmin game rankings. I wonder if we'll manage to get a thread where more than 1/2 of them will be posted.

@739410464
lol okay faggot. You're not even worth giving (You)s to anymore. Fuck off, retard.

>>739410538
recoiling after having been found out

>>739410018
>>739410091
talk to any strategy game enthusiast ever and they'll tell you that it's important strategy games emphasize proactive play and making committal moves early instead of just prepping the "perfect" line at the beginning every time
turtly gameplay is easy and boring - taking calculated risks that could backfire is fun. games need to encourage you to do the latter because otherwise players will play the game too safely and ruin the fun for themselves

2 > 1

Those are the only ones I've played.

>>739406019
You decide one day to download the games and see if you like them or not. If you don't have the specific brand of autism to enjoy them, you won't.

I do really love Pikmin 1's solemn, somber, and yet comforting feeling. Olimar is basically in the worst position he's ever been in and yearns to go back to his family, reminiscing on the good times he had with them while working his ass off to go back to see them. It's really earnest.

>>739410464
>How can I make this about politics?
Jesus Christ, you're just a caritcature of /v/'s worst traits

2>1>3>4 for personal enjoyment

>>739410608
>series that loosely fits in this genre and is praised precisely because it's so unique to the rest of the genre is bad because it doesn't fit my arbitrary expectations of the genre
Dumbass.
Pikmin's appeal was that it's so different from a typical RTS, Pikmin 2 even moreso and is far more similar to a dungeon crawler.

Pikmin 3 and 4 abandon what made the originals so unique and appealing (the atmosphere, the pikmin swarm management, learning challenging enemy and boss movesets, the micro-mechanics of throwing, arcing, and dodging attacks) in favor of just making a shitty watered down RTS

>>739410451
Because the atmosphere in the first game is super rare. The humor shit is in every second game.

>>739407403
I got it downloaded, Squared really is everything 1 has but on 2's engine and tweaks plus more?

>>739405161
4 > 1 > 2 > 3

>>739410817
yeah, it's also got an extra Louie campaign with 2's enemies and some custom stuff once you beat the main game and a built in randomzer

>>739410809
I wouldn't say there are that many games out there that nail 2's particular brand of humor, either.

>>739411040
That's a highly specific aspect though. Every element in Pikmin 1 serves its purpose to create the atmosphere. You are naming the writing in particular, it may be funny, but it doesn't have much to do with most of the game. There is no japanese salaryman humor when cave diving.

>>739411425
The absurdity of the cave diving for burried treasure does play into the humor, but I get what you mean, 1's definitely more all-encompassing.

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>>739411860
>time management and strategy didn't exist before 2022 because we didn't have a fun, japanese word for it
You have to be that other faggot from earlier in the thread, because I refuse to believe that there are two people here who are this retarded

Isn't Dandori that subcontinental slop food?

>>739412830
You may be thinking of enchiladas.

>>739412932
Mexico isn't a subcontinent. They don't even eat subs there.

>>739412239
>>739410464

Pikmin 4 has the best dandori

>>739411860
dandori is just a way to say "time limited challenge", "time management" or "time constraints in strategy gameplay"
nintendo started using it with 4, but if you go to threads before 4 (or even 3) was released, you will see very often people mentioning one of the main differences between 1 and 2 being the time limits
we just didn't have a specific word for pikmin games

>>739405161
2 > 1 > 3 > 3 Deluxe > 4

2 > 4 > 1 > 3
I love 4 alot because it caters so much to 2fags even though we probably never deserved it. I just think the caves are a little too easy, but the olimar campaign and dandori trials are all really nice content.

>>739407371
2 removed all the product placement which removes a ton of the fun of the caves for me.

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>>739405161
>worst game is the best selling
many such cases

>2 is the worst selling
it goes to show that internet discourse doesn't reflect reality
I always thought this internet darling game was overrated but it seems that was never even the case
the correct order is
1>3>2>4 btw
randomly generated levels do not work for pikmin, it's antithetical to the exploration aspect

>>739415038
>>2 is the worst selling
>it goes to show that internet discourse doesn't reflect reality
the gamecube did not sell well and the switch sold 150 million units

that's literally all it is

>>739415076
But it was also on the Wii

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>>739405161
Pikmin 1 is the only one that matters

>>739413756
>3 > 3 Deluxe
i didn't play the switch version
what was wrong with it
i guess losing the wii u gamepad is kind of a big deal but i dunno

>>739415228
difficulty is toned down in Deluxe, the main difference I noticed being they reduced the health of all the enemies. Apparently Deluxe's hard mode is the same as the Wii U version. However this easier difficulty also got applied to the challenge mode levels, which were finely tuned to have time limits based on the original Wii U version that weren't changed at all. So now the challenge mode isn't anywhere near as fun in Deluxe as you'll get the platinum medal really easily. There's no difficulty modes in the challenge modes so it's just completely fucked compared to the Wii U version.

This is a big deal to me because the challenge modes in 3 were the part I liked the most. It's not like 3 needed to be made even easier when it was already an easy game to begin with.

>>739405161
2>1>4>3

Theyre all fantastic games though.

>>739415130
Does that picture even count re-release on other consoles? Going by the picture, it only says "Gamecube"

>>739415038
>4 retconned Brit out of existence
it's not fucking fair...

>>739405161
2 > 1 >> 3 > Hey! >>> getting kicked in the balls >> 4
1 being above 2 is also acceptable, I simply prefer 2.

>>739415705
>Hey!
i wonder how many people actually played it

1 > 2, haven't played the rest. I think 1 is one of the best games ever made.

>>739410464
there is no time management in 2. thats the point you fucking schizo

>>739416098
I did and I can't remember a single thing from it