Why are people on 4chan so insanely fucking negative about PoE2? Seriously, go to their thread on /vg/ like 50% of the thread is just calling the game shit over and over. I think the game is fucking dope.
A lot of people had their ego hurt by the game.
Maybe the game is not very good...just a thought. Perchance.
>>739487140So many players that got humbled. The live stream for 0.3 where the dev looked at the camera and said "you guys died, A LOT" made me kek so hard.Also, not many N33Ts here can afford the early access
For some reason some retards decided to use PoE vs PoE2 as another vector of the culture war.
>>739487115>we want this game to be slow and methodical making each fight feel impactfull>NAH PSYCH BACK TO ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM SPAM ONE BUTTON MAP CLEARING HRIND WOOOOOOOOO>NAH PSYCH AGAIN WE ARE SLOWING STUFF DOWN BUT NOT TOO MUCH BUT JUST ENOUGH SO BOTH SIDES ARE MAD
>>739487140fpbpThe game looks like a modern AAA experience and thus attracts normalfags, but has basically 0 of the modern handholding. People got into it, bricked their builds and got stuck, and then saw people like Fubgun printing 100+ divine orbs a day and then they got asshurt.
>>739487115Early access development has been a snailpaced shit show and GGG has no vision for the game.
no swordsNO SWORDSN O S W O R D Sstill in alpha btw, just 6+ years behind schedule, better go add in another retarded obscure bloated mechanic that takes 10000 hours of dev time but still feels halfassed
>>739487115it's boringim not doing that campaign again sorry lol
why would i be happy that the sequel to the most autistic arpg ever made is less autistic?they should've quintupled down on making it confusing for normalfags, not streamline it.
>>739487115talking shit is funfolks have been waiting like 2 extra months for a patch we're scraping the bottom of the barrel for discussion talking shit is all we got left. don't take this away from them.
>>739487115>stop not liking my astroturfed poop!!!Get a real job.
>>739487115>Poe 1 is free and oodles of content>Poe 2 is NOT free, has LESS contentIts literally that simple. It is shit until it stops being incomplete
>>739487115Who gives a flying fuck if people shit on it...GROW THE FUCK UP ANON!DO ///YOU/// LIKE THE GAME OR NOT?>''hurr durr, people says bad thing about my vidya, I cannot enjoy it anymore''absolutely pathetic....
PoE veteran here. Even before PoE2 the game had a very strong doomer scene. Literally every single league people would sperg out and spam "poe is dead /it's over / *posts steam charts* / BRF BRF BRF / etc etc etc" non-fucking-stop. Then PoE2 blew up and over night became way more popular than PoE ever was. Doomers continued with their regular routine, but it fell onto fertile ground, because it resonated with all the newfags who have been conditioned by outrage culture, and thus instantly chimed in.
>>739487115ACT 3ACT 3ACT 3
>>739487115poe1 fags are notoriously assblasted and take every opportunity to shit on poe2its a very vocal minority
melee is bad and so the game is badthat's just how it is
>>739487115It's mostly ironic shitposting.
>>739487115The game fundamentally is at odds with itself design wise. You can't have meaningful combat while fighting horses of enemies with a progression system that requires you to kill and move fast to get anywhere within a reasonable amount of time.I have noticed that they've been primarily backtracking on the original vision, which for poe1 also was what made it more enjoyable to play.
More like POOe2 amirite? Haha mkay I'll show myself out
Let me do maps from level 1 if I’ve already completed the campaign. I’m not playing your campaign 400 times sorry. The fact they refuse to do this is just pure dev ego. I have NEVER heard a SINGLE good argument against it.
>>739487814Respect the VISION.
>>739487825I respected it by uninstalling.
>>739487814Completing the campaign on league launch is in and of itself a skill and actually fun. Maybe D2 is more your speed.
>>739487702This. I frequented /poeg/ many many years ago and it was one of the most depressing generals I've visited.
>>739487873D3* I mean.
>>739487814>I have NEVER heard a SINGLE good argument against it.The initial campaign run is part of the skill check on league launch. Experienced players get trough it in 3-5 hours.
>>739487115The game is 100% owned by tencent and one of the most shilled games of all time.If the game was as good as the shills claimed 99% of the players wouldn't stop playing 1-2 weeks after a patch is released.
>>739487115blizzard spending a lot of money here because they think this board have a greater influence on their sales and it is not even a joke
>>739487947The game is still hitting 25k concurrent players per day HALF A FUCKING YEAR INTO THE LEAGUE. PoE often has like 75k the week after league launch. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>739487115Same reason /v/ hates Diablo 4. They're poorfags. It's not a coincidence /v/ loves PoE1 (free) and Grim Yawn (piratable)
>>739487115>8 years since announcement>18 months 'early access' (they treat it like a release game>missing acts>missing classes>missing ascendancies for the classes they already have>missing weapons and skills>story is time travel wankery>no movement skills but everyone gets some shitty dodge roll>everyone complains of movement speed so they add sprint instead of just increasing move speed>try to turn an ARPG with a million different variables into a soulslike>vision falls apart as soon as a build comes online>surprised no work on poe1 got done when you didn't have anyone working on it>Trial of smegma and chaos are unfun and roundly complained about>still missing 3rd ascendancy method>'rework' the endgame, actually all you did was expand on the endgame and double down on infinite atlas>still has wisdom scrolls, identification still a mechanic after 30 years>don't add crafting bench because it will confuse new players>added 300 new stones to collect>add challenges to keep the cattle playing due to fomo instead of just working on actual features>we are fine releasing 1.0 without all classes>one game two campaignsDid I miss anything?
>>739487115every /vg/ thread is like that
>>739487115It's the kind of game that attracts turbo autistic people.If they don't get their way every second, they'll spergout.It's a good game overall, I had fun with it.
>>739487873>>739487906>>739487910That’s fine, I’m not running the campaign over and over, what now
>>739487947>If the game was as good as the shills claimed 99% of the players wouldn't stop playing 1-2 weeks after a patch is released.this is just how you play hardcore correctly, start each league and then uninstall when you die in a couple weeks
PoE 2 > PoE
>>739488273>what nowYou tell me. How does this affect me? Why do you think I care?
>>739488273bye
My problem with the game is mostly that I love playing negromancer, which means my gear needs loads of spirit, which is a niche trait. Combined with item rarity being tied to gear it becomes exceedingly difficult to get high roll gear which pisses me off. That and the apparent dislike the devs have for negromancers by nerfing summons mid-season I'm put off from playing it more.
>>739488125It's honestly insane. Every other game is 100% feature complete during early access, how does PoE2 get away with it?
>>739487115It peaks in campaign and devolves into busy-work button smashing
>>739488487You practically need that wolf head helm to use summons comfortably because it gives like 100 spirit.
>>739487115Isn't the game like 10 years overdue? Also Jonathan lies about everything (my favorite lie is him saying last summer that there is 50% chance that poe2 1.0 would release last Christmas lul), the campaign is a boring slog, the skills and interactions are boring and unfun, item balance is a joke, power creep is rediculous but +10% movement speed buff is somehow a rediculous thing to ask for etc etc.Game is shit. Only retards still play it.
>>739487115It's stupidThere's three kinds of charges that do nothing except have different colours, generated by like two different things each and used in like two different things eachThen there's three kinds of infusions that do nothing except have different colours, generated by like two different things each and used in like two different things eachDumb decisions all over the shop because they want "meaningful combat", and by "meaningful combat" they mean "do the exact combo we want in the exact order we tell you to" for 5 minutes
>>739487339It's fun I can't wait to do the campaign as a sorcerer this time already played Monk and which.
>>7394871154chan is generally filled with shitflinging retards, that's why we are here.On the other hand:I had high hopes for PoE 2 but went in skeptical on the difficulty and gameplay pacing changes.My biggest disappointment is the same old core systems for the endgame. I hate fiddling with maps, stones, whatnot, just to be able to enter the map, and constantly rereading item stats just to not fumble the next 20 minutes of gameplay is really taxing after you are doing it for hours on end. So endgame was already DOA for me, as they did not innovate, like removing map items and having the endless atlas either be more like Delve, which I had hoped for, constantly blazing map after map without stopping and playing item Tetris.On the other hand, I am also one of the people who think the campaign is not fun and takes too long. But it might come down to the same issue PoE 1 had for me for a long time: that most leveling and starting builds aren't really fun, and combat feedback and pacing can be really shitty if you do not adhere to the very steep progression. If you don't meet the DPS check, the game can turn from well-paced to an excruciating slog nobody enjoys. And it mostly comes down to moving the power away from the passive tree, making ascendancy annoying or hard to get, and removing power from the gem levels.It's all about finding the gear with the +X level for your skills to make the progression smooth, and that's one of the biggest issues in my opinion.
>Make a game that's slow, heavy , funNOOOO THIS IS NOT POGERS MAKE IT RETARDED LIKE 1 I LOVE ONE HOLY FWARK i don't want to play one though>ZOOMIES ALL OVER THE SCREENYAAAAAAAAAAAS OMFGGGGGG THIS IS POE NOW WAAAAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOO MAMAMIA WAHOOOOOO BINGBING BING WAHOOOOOOOO
>>739488501No, more like why does niGGGers get a pass for having these features missing after EIGHT(8!) years amongst all the other dogshit. It is literally scope creep: the game but gets a pass for some reason.
>>739488773>after EIGHT(8!) yearsHow much time should it have taken according to you?
>>7394888803 years at most for 0.1. 3.5 years for 0.5.
>>739488880Stupid question because it should never have creeped this far. Game was supposed to be just another update to poop1. The game is form over function, took them 8 years just to make a pretty game but it's missing literally half the weapons and classes. 8 years is longer thatnpoe1 release to poe2 announcement. And then they said they have revamped the endgame but they didn't actually change anything that people didn't like they just added even more stuff on top of it.
>>739489059I feel like you're literally just grasping at straws to be mad about.
It was supposed to be a year-long beta test. Not only has ggg barely delivered on updates, but the updates have been Johnathan backtracking from what he originally pitched. He said PoE2 would be a slower-paced game but PoE2 has been getting reeled right back in to being PoE1 zoom-zoom.
Because it's PooE. Go jerk off your live service garbage over at Reddit. I'd rather play Grim Dawn.
Because the people that play the game are miserable retards that act hostile to anyone approaching this game. Enjoy your shit game then, ill play grim dawn again.
>>739487115a lot of them are PoE players who got completely brainwashed by some of the worst ARPG gameplay and game design in existence. they cannot enjoy any other ARPG either
>>739487115>Why are people on 4chan so insanely fucking negative about PoE2?Why would I even consider playing it (or the first one) when I have a pirated and modded copy of Grim Dawn where I have unlimited stash for free without always-online bullshit forcing me to see the ugly skins paypigs pay money for whenever I go to a hub?
Grim yawn marketing team working overtime
>>739489917I do it for free, turns out you don't need shills when you actually make a good game
>>739489917I literally paid for the game. Glad to see that people who say "grim yawn" are live service cattle.
>>739487115Because PoE 1 did it right. Simple building blocks = complexity. PoE 2 is>x skill builds heavy stun on enemy>when enemy is heavy stunned y skill can pin it>z skill can freeze pinned enemies>shattering frozen enemies with q skill explodes them for massive damagePoe 2 is objectively a better made game when it comes to how it plays, as in mechanically, but game design wise, it has taken all the wrong lessons from D3 and D4.
>>739490245This is dishonest. Virtually every late-game build is 1-2 buttons max. Combo play is only a thing during the campaign, and it works well there. It's the reason why normalfags need 24 hours for it while experienced players are done with it in under 5.
>>739487115I dont like the way they nerf skills in poe2Instead of just lowering the numbers they completely fuck the mechanics up for it like with Hexblast or ColdsnapI will never play infusions GGG
Nothing in the 0.5 endgame looks interesting enough to want to play the campaign again
>>739490815I'm a big fan of both PoE and PoE2, but one of my biggest criticisms is how they handle nerfs. A skill/build overperforms at maybe 140% effectiveness of what it should be, but instead of nerfing it into the 80-110% range GGG nukes it from orbit and drops it to 5-15%.
>>739487272.1 release was fucking kino. Game was hard, boss fights were a bit long, but intense. Combat actually felt meaningful. ZOOMERS MUST ZOOM though.
>>739491204Sorry that’s your fault, go ahead and play the campaign again btw
Because they remade the first game and made it worse. And charged money for it. And charged more money for it. And then did shit like let Elon Musk cheat at the game.The game is worse. It has less depth, is more janky, a tremendous amount of the game is just travel time, character builds are basically all just dictated to you, and the whole thing just comes off as a mishmash of poorly implemented design ideas. "We'll make boss fights like Dark Souls! That was popular." "We'll slow down the game! Diablo 2 was slower and that was popular." "The original game was too confusing for people, so we'll make it simple!"And it's paid early access. Paid early access. That has never not been a scam. Don't pay for unfinished products. And they want more money to trade in-game. Because charging for access isn't sufficient. Now pay up more for in-game features. And then more for cosmetics.And the game runs like shit. Worse than the original. Your shader cache will be overflowing after an hour of play. Massive load times even on good hardware. Framerate drops even on streamer supercomputers from the poorly optimized particle effects they liberally use.Also, they made money with this shit. Massive amounts of money. By viral marketing it constantly.
It's harder to think of a single game which doesn't have at least one schizo who identifies as "the guy that hates New Vegas" or "the guy that hates BG3" etc.That's just modern 4chan. People have gone nuts and this is the only place where the psychos are not perma'd and as long as they stay vaguely """on topic""", they're tolerated because they make an impact on engagement and allow for higher ad rates. Makes the site look less dead.
>>739491743Consider that you are the schizo.
>>739491743all me
>>739487115I have absolutely no idea what the devs are doing, what they think they're doing, and what they planned to do with the game in the first place.
>no matter how much you try your bulky dude in heavy armor will always be less tanky than a witch
Yeah, imma just go play CHADablo 4
>>739487115There is no fanbase as self hating as aRPG's. The developers don't know what to make because the playerbase doesn't know what they want. You have to basically fall backwards into good design.
I am not saying Diablo 4 is a better game, BUT:Do the d4 devs have a more coherent plan for what they want d4 to be versus what poe2 devs want poe2 to be?
>>739492359I had fun playing D4 this season but once you get all your mythics, there isn't enough left to do I could play another build and do it all over again but I played whirlwind barb and im not gonna trade down for something shittier, and the only two builds on the same level don't interest methat's why POE2 still > D4, there are way more interesting builds that I'd like to try every league, even if it's much less build diverse than POE1
>>739487115because it's different from PoE1 which anyone with a brain could have realized before PoE2 came outit's still a really fucking good game, it's just not as zoomy as zoombrains want it to be
>>739492583>it's still a really fucking good gamelol
>>739492359while D4 was really bad on release, this cutscene was absolute kino and by far the best part of the game
>zooming is……LE BADTime to go play your commodore 64 unc
>PoE2 shitters also play D4Explains a lot really
>>739487115I don't wanna play an obviously unfinished game fampaiAnd it's gonna be unfinished for a long time at this rate since poo2 is like mega ideasguy gamedev ideas all wafflestomped together and yoinked seemingly at random.
Tencent shill thread
>>739487115the people who are playing the beta PAID for a FREE game and they are pissed as hell that it isn't:>1 EXACTLY like the previous game which they were addicted to>2 EXACTLY the way they think it should be>3 mad as fuck that it's in active development and isn't what their dumb asses believe it should be
>>739487115Well you're probably a semi normal person that doesn't feel like you're forced to play the game all the time and if there's a rough patch or something you actually play other video games and check in on it later.
>>739492734>fans of game genre play games in game genreWoah…
>>739491743So what are you trying to say, only positivity is allowed? you zoomers are funny man, you've all truly been brainwashed into willingly being submissive shiteaters
>>739487446>astroturfedthese threads on /v/ are ALWAYS fake discussion by the autists from the /vg/ thread, they do it for FREE
>>739487115Im enjoying it so far, I started it a week or so ago with a friend (who has played before) and we're at act 3. The skills are very cool and I am interested to try a few other classes, I don't think I'll play more than 2 or 3 seasons over the time of this games existence though, that's less of a this games problem and more I won't do it for any of these sorts of games
>>739492912I'll be 41 this year and I've posted here since my freshman year of college (2004)if you can't tell the difference between game criticism and schizos, not sure what to tell you
>>739487115First, the game has weird schizos that target it. I think it is because PoE is related to Diablo/Blizzard. The spam in the threads about all of the POO2 and weird wojacks is legit basedjack party bullshit.Regardless, people have mixed opinions on the game because as PoE1 veterans the game has failed to live up to the lofty expectations set by PoE1 and also they've displayed a seeming misunderstanding of their own game. There is also the fact that PoE1 was basically left for dead for nearly a full year while they released a not even half-baked PoE2 early access.I LIKE PoE2. I LOVE PoE1. I do not hate PoE2 and I have like 500 hours in it and I am anticipating the 0.5 league. However, I have mostly the same complaints as other PoE1 vets, I just enjoy the game enough to keep playing it.For me though, one thing I don't get is people who also refuse to accept it isn't finished. Like people are already saying the 0.5 endgame sucks before playing it. That to me is too much. The thing got major reworks, and it might not be it but Christ, do we need a 45 minute video and 500 post threads describing the long term ramifications in 2032 for something that isn't even out yet?
>>739487115POOP OFEXCREMENTNUMBER TWO I think the game's a fun diversion, and I will try out the new stuff. I'm not good at it, and I haven't completed any pinnacles.
>>739492967In a week a whole new update is gonna release. The campaign isn't changing that much (though it is changing up act 3 to be more streamlined), but the end game is getting a big rework. Also there are two new ascendancies and some other shit.
>>739492912It’s the “just let people enjoy things” cucks, all zoomgroids have been conditioned to think this way via microplastics and SSRIs
/poeg/ is basically full of battered housewives. They'll bitch, moan and doompost constantly but they're always there, ready to play the new league. They meme GGG and shit on them constantly while gleefully devouring patch notes and wanting more. What I find it weird is how much spillover is between /poeg/ and PoE1/2 threads on /v/.
>>739493084It’s because most /vg/ threads always crosslink to /v/, it’s coordinated raiding but those faggots don’t get perma banned.
>>739493084diabloclones is one of THE genres that attracts terminally online lifeforms the most
This was my reap character in 0.4, was pretty fun to be honest. Detonate dead + trample toe cleared entire screens and if any boss spawned anything it was over for it.Anyways, PoE2 is good and all but I still do not understand their ideas for uniques. Why are they all so bad? I mean it is worse than PoE1. In PoE1 for years there was at least a niche for most items during leveling. Like most unique weapons were just generally above average (or outright great) for their level. If you found them while leveling it would be like "Aw sweet!"Most PoE2 uniques can't even be used for leveling, especially weapons with skills because lifesprig drops with a level 19 innate and requires level 70 lmao. And in actual endgame? It is so weird to me that they made this whole new game and just instantly made the uniques worse than PoE1.
>>739492359I'm doing a first playthrough of the main campaign on expert and honestly I'm bored as hell. It's easier than D3 hard and easier than D2 normal and I don't know if I really want to keep playing this way just to get to a point where I feel engaged with the game after having my first impression of every boss be negative. The sound design is also pretty boring when it comes to enemies which just kills my engagement with the overall world.
>>739493242I forgot to mention I used this character in particular cause I actually was able to put uniques on it, and they are 3 of the most used uniques. I think my first character of the league used literally 0.
>>739487115Because its simply not a very good game. Doesn't mean its the worst game ever and we all have our 6/10 games we love. You just can't expect the majority to agree. I dont get pissy when i'm one of like 3 guys on here that loved dead island 2 while accepting its a 7 at best.
>>739487115Because you (probably) cant generate power charges with hollow form so my siphoning strike hollow form build is deadFucking boring
>>739493068I did see that when we started but figured we'd see how we go. I'm honestly shocked that the game doesn't have swords, or daggers, they're basically the faces of melee weapons in fantasy along with axes.
>>739487115It's not POE1I still have a good time with it and am excited for the upcoming patch
>>739493345GGG hates melee playersGenuinely, this is not a joke or hyperbole
>>739493345Can't tell if this is trolling or not since swords is a big schizo meme in the community, but yeah it is retarded that we have:>Maces>Quarterstaves>Unarmed (Maces/Quarterstaves)>Bear slams>Spears>Werewolf slashesall before swords. The reasoning is that the game originally did not have WASD movement (and the ability to move while attacking). It was added last minute and they had to reanimate everything an the warrior was simply done first.
>>739493084This is most online fanbases, honestly. If you ever feel like a laugh go and have a look at a giga-normalfag subreddit like CoD or FIFA and see how much cognitive dissonance is on display in every single post.
>>739487115>adding grenade launchers to a fantasy game before swordsthey are swine, and not my niggas
>>739487115>YOU >CAN'Tsorry but the whole design philosophy here is that you're not allowed to experiment and customize
It's really slow and the way they handled melee attacks sucks
>>739493470I genuinely hope that when they add the entire spread of melee weapons that they relax the weapon requirements on at least some of the skills. Give them each like 2 or 3 skills unique to them then make them share with others. Mace and Axe should have overlap, Axe/Sword should, Sword/Dagger, etc.
>>739493417My friend did say that melee is basically hard mode in PoE>>739493425I do like that I can do WASD movement though sprint controls seems to shit the bed sometimes, I think it may be trying to auto path light turns and then I'm fucking it with my own input. I guess I have been taking moving and attack for granted now that I think about the other games in the genre I've played.
Cleared Act 1 and at no points I felt like I was doing any meaningful damage and while my attack and movespeed felt ok I was getting swarmed with mobs that were running as if they were triple ghosted or some shit.In the end I quit because I didn't have fun fighting the bosses.
>>739493628Eh. Melee is fine in PoE1. It really is more a consequence of compounding boss complexity that makes having to be near them a disadvantage. However, in most content melee has more than enough tools to clear fast and efficiently and typically speaking melee builds are some of the strongest overall, just with annoyances that ranged characters do not have to deal with.As for moving while attacking, it certainly changes how the entire game operates and your thought process for skill and build design. I mean adding it probably fucked up a lot of shit for them, because now they have to balance an entire new vector. That being said, swords really needed to be in 0.5, it is sad we have to wait until 1.0 for them (1.0 is the next update but it is not until December).
>>739493628Sprint follows your mouse cursor if you're not actively steering with WASD. It's a lot easier if you just don't press anything and steer with the mouse for micro adjustments.
>free game>not even out yet>has a massive hate campaign against it somehowSomeone make it make sense?
>>739487115>go to their thread on /vg/ like 50% of the thread is just calling the game shit over and over.its just a couple of poe1 faggots or 1 d4 faggot who is seething about diablo not having a /vg/ thats what i have noticed ive been in there for a while i wouldnt say thats the perspective of the vast majority i love poe2 its like a evolved d2 with slower combat compared to poe1
>>739487115>I think the game is fucking dopeWho fucking asked
You don't understand, PoE 2 is how melee was always supposed to be; trust the vision!
>>739493912The game just isn't good
we have been playing poe for 13 to 14 years why do you think its negative anon ?
>>739487216well said.also, OP is another marketing post.
>>739493970Zoomers think people asked for their unsolicited positive slop posting, it’s also extremely reddit coded.>personally I’m having a blast!>honestly it’s fucking dope>I know I’m having fun, anyone else agree?It’s also how they try to generate false consensus and shift the narrative on things.
>>739487115Is this the game Elon Musk paid to be number 1 in the world at or something? No thanks.
>>739493856It feels almost more like a twin stick when you are able to move and shoot, I've always known the "meta" (as someone who hasn't played it) of the first game to "explode the enemies 2 rooms away before they show up on your screen and gib you", while I'm not feeling that being the case with 2.>>739493890I will definitely try that instead when I play next.
>>739494015It's free and not even out yet
>>739487115The game was initially very opinionated and felt different enough from poe1Then devs bent the knee and gameplay wise it is turning into it while having a better although unfinished campaign but worse, by a lot, endgame
>>739494138The reason WASD was added was because of the Mercenary and Crossbows. They were testing it out and found that moving while shooting on a controller felt great and that sort of pivoted the entire development of the game to being focused on WASD/Controller.
>>739493912>Someone make it make sense?poorfag poe1 players seething they cant play the game, diablo fags seething poe fags say d4 bad, poe1 zoomer nuke everything in rainbows 1 shot players seething its not like that instantly in poe2 etcetcetc
I liked it better when it deviated from PoE1
>>739493430It's good to actually point out the bad things in games you love, but these people are playing those games every day just because it's what they've been doing and it's what others do, and they hate almost every fucking second of it.
>>739494031unsolicited negative slop posting
>>739487115POO 2POO2
>>739491335That was the campaing, the endgame was as fucking dogshit as it has always been in POO1
>>739494285Lucky for me that's exactly what I am doing. My friend says the game is great on controller but I started it up with M&KB so just stuck with that.
>>739487115Because they’re obese, worthless, gambling addict neets who thought it would be funny to be absolutely abusive cocksucking niggers to some of the only devs in the industry who still give a shit. There isnt much lower than a poe2 /vg/ regular. They are objective dogshit.
>>739494380/v/ thinks being a negger is a sign of intelligence.
>>739494438>There isnt much lower than a poe2 /vg/ regular. They are objective dogshit.its so over for poeg
>>739494438>GGG>Give a shitKill yourself extremely soonLike, a minute from now soon
>>739494031>being supportive of people putting in an honest effort to make a legitimately good entertainment product is le bad Kill yourself you fat worthless loser, no one gives a fuck about you and you will never matter.
>>739487115Every time there's news everyone suddenly starts talking seriously about the game. That's just the way it is with any seasonal game that isn't full of coomers. Negative opinions just seem louder, but people still end up playing it when the time comes.
>>739494463quite ironic how you change 1 letter and they'll agree there's no intelligence in sight
>>739494546See >>739494546and try not to burst your colostomy bag, freak.
>>739494548this is the poe thread though? there's no "legitimately good entertainment product" here
>>739494603you fucking stupid retard lmao
Look faggotsI DON'T fucking want to press one button and clear the screen. I WANT to actually PLAY A FUCKING VIDEO GAMEHow is this so fucking hard for you pooeeg1 fags to understand why you fucks ruined PoE2?I WANT TO PLAY VIDEO GAMESFUCK YOUR ZOOMING 1 BUTTON SCREEN CLEARSFUCK YOU POE1FAGS
>>739494630I’m sorry are you pretending to be a human being? There is no intelligent life in your post, I don’t talk to animals, sorry.
YOU WILL COMBO YOU WILL PLAY MARK AND JONATHANS VISION YOU FAGGOTS
>>739494603You are a fucking mongoloid hahahaha
>>739487115My only complaint about the game is that you can't skip the campaign after you beat it once. It's a fucking slog having to replay that slop over and over and over and over.....
>>739494285To be fair, it is, and playing Crossbow is the only thing besides minions that makes the game bearable till maps. The downside, however, is that most crossbow skills that should be fun aren't, and grenades are gay. And the passive investment until you find your magical +5-level crossbow is massively high.I wonder if the new build system will finally show me the math needed to make builds pop without being chronically tabbed out or having to wade through disgusting, shitty-made AI build guides.
>>739494690>poenigger pretending his existence has valueturn into fertilizer soon so you can become a net positive in this world ok?
>>739494649>>739494713Gonna cry? You are a worthless ugly fat loser, keep bitching about their game, theyll keep winning and making money while you never create anything worthwhile in your life. What a massive waste of oxygen lmao. Hood niggers are unironically more valuable than you.
>>739494791It's like 4 or 5 hours and they're making it even shorter
So what are (You) leaguestarting?
>>739487115Autists like skinnerboxes and put thousands of hours into them, autists also like shitposting 24/7.
Why do campaign haters complain that somehow maps are magically that different? In poo 1 I prefer the campaign to grinding out 100/100 bonuses by far which is basically just another second longer campaign
>>739488501>Every other game is 100% feature complete during early accesslollmao even
>>739494902Flooding every conversation about poe2 with constant and overwhelming negatively isnt shitposting.
>>739494896LA RangerI've literally never played this before, I did shit like witch, warrior, spearazon, monk, and even druid. curious to see how this goes
>>739494657PoE2 has had 1 button clear builds every single patch. 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, and 0.4 all had builds with one button that cleared entire screens. From herald chains to lightning arrows and spears to maces with increased attack range I'd argue that PoE2 has been busted in half harder than PoE1.
>>739494438Devs suck. 1.0 was supposed to be years ago. Now 1.0 won't even have all the classes/acts. Next update is just rehashing existing content.The supporter packs contain more assets than the updates.
>>739494880They could make it 2 hours long and it would still be a slog repeating that shit multiple times a league. I'd rather level via maps or anything else really.
>>739494830lol this genuinely reads like a post by a jeet sucking off his corporation of choice
me wanty POE click and big color.me need big color and boom.me speed me loot.
>>739494830>AWOOOOGA AWOOOOGA>RETARDED ANIMAL SPOTTED>AWOOOOGA AWOOOOGA
>>739494896Martial Artist clone skill tied to something, not sure what yet
>>739494974I think you're playing the wrong genre.
>>739494959>Spamming "PoO2" all day every day on /vg/ isn't shitposting
The poo meme has been part of a larger campaign by jews in the last few years to normalize scat fetishes. You see it in other forms of media as well. It will never be normal and will always be demonic.
>>739494965Who asked
>>739494896Either Hollow Palm Martial Artist or maybe some kind of spell totem build. Honestly not sure. The most disappointing part of 0.5 is no new class/weapon along with a very small balance patch.I want to make a second character that is a titan facebreaker strength stacker if it will be viable.
>>739494896Martial Artist. I haven't tried Monk in any league yet but I saw Facebreaker and fell in love. I hope I can get a pair relatively quickly on launch weekend.
>>739494896Mace monk
>>739494896Something with the werewolf. I don't know beyond that.
>>739495026
>>739494969Wheres your game? You’re a great example of why most people shouldnt even be taught to read. Your capacity for thought is picking potatoes out of the ground for 60 years. Thats what you’re good for and nothing more. >>739494975Try again with a brain stem >>739494979Thanks for your concession, stupid worthless nigger.
>>739494793Actually something that has been stressing me out is none of the ammo is showing in scaling on damage nodes outside of the machine gun. I don't like to use builds in games so I have stayed away from them but have been worried my shotgun isn't scaling.
>>739495057I want to see what these are like with the monk ascendancy
>>739494896Martial Artist something.Quarterstaff/Monk skills are just fun as fuck in general plus the ascendency looks nutty.
>>739494942Maps>can turn your brain off>kill shit, collect loot>always different and randomized Campaign >forced to play through the same slop story 50+ times>have to do side quests for the extra character power shit>same fucking biome for each chapter
I’ve tried it like 4 different times at league start because a buddy keeps begging me to play it with him and I just hate it.It just never feels fun, the loot never feels good, and my friend is autistic so he’s just destroying mobs and zooming while I play sprint simulator to catch up and get cucked out of fun.
>>739487115Most cant afford the computer to play it, or even the game. Its not free to play yet, which enrages them even more. Than you have the crazy blizzard / diablo shills. PoE2 is the best ARPG of all time and its not even close.
>>739495091>Waaaahhh waahh Doesn't change the fact that poe2 devs are shitters pumping out cosmetics for Tencent.
>>739495002I grew up on d1 and d2 sir. I like poe1 and 2, but loathe their shitty campaigns.
>>739494896Turning unarmed into mace weapons melee
I think PoE2 is making a longterm mistake by adding in so many things like the Oracle or Monk's new Stonefist. Can't imagine that they will be making two versions of every pair of unique gloves going forward from now until 10 years later. I can't think of anything in PoE1 that is like that. I mean the one example was Scion and she was left to fucking languish for literal years lmao.
>>739487115Probably because every patch in early access has been full of empty air>all classes buffed>biggest patch everThe most popular league was only so because of a crafting mechanic. Their leagues honestly feel more like marketing cycles than leagues but maybe they're just holding back for 1.0, remains to be seen.
>>739495238I agree that Poe 1 campaign is terrible but what's wrong with Poe 2?
>>739495203Sounds like you'd enjoy it more solo. I am more like your friend, and when I played through with my gf I had to just accept she wanted to play it like a real game so I had my own solo character to zoom like a retard.
>>739495153>1080x735
>>739495286The problem is them trying to market and update the game like a live service when it is not even finished yet lol. We just got the replacement for the literal placeholder endgame that they admitted to launching the game with.
>bro this time for sure we will make a game with meaningful combat>*completely gives up and makes PoE1-2 cookie clicker instead*
>>739487115>giant maps that have zero engagement of your brain, just press button and watch pretty explosions>but then bosses who can brush you with a single pixel and one shot you and play like they were designed to be in a Souls game or something>"micro" transactions that cost $10 for a colour swapped fireball >shit loot in a game about loot>story that can't be skipped but is also brain-deadIn short, the game is 20 minutes of brainless moving through a giant map, then 3 minutes of fighting a boss who is 1000000000000x stronger than other enemies and feels like you're in a completely different game. All so you can get some orbs that you use to buy the items you want form other players.
>>739495232Those are facts, but heres one: you’re a fucking bitter loser who will never amount to anything and that no one gives a fuck about lmao.
>>739495153Stonefist and Runic Meridians are obviously mandatory but I wonder what I should put the other four points into. I guess the bell is probably the default "good" option.
>>739495153I am interested in:>Stonefist>Runesthen I don't know. The combo stuff? But are there even any good combo skills/payoffs? The channel skill seemed like a fine powercharge payoff but I don't know.
>0.5Permafrost witchhunter, maybe gemling. Hardcore. Slow campaing player, reading dialogue.Lets game.
>>739487115/v/ is like 80% schizo posting now if you genuinely want to discuss games have to go to alt chans or Reddit
>>739495298My main issue is character power being locked behind sidequests. I just want to blast through the campaign on repeat playthroughs.
>>739494830You're so fucking stupid you have no idea why we're calling you stupid. Your brain needs oxygen man.
>>739495420>the game is 20 minutes of brainless moving through a giant map, then 3 minutes of fighting a bossjesus christ lmao
>>739494896Shaman. Two options with a lot of overlap.1. Rage boosted melee minions (spectres or reavers), using the new minion splash support to help clear, replacing the giga gay infernal legion "tech".2. Spell Totems. Also rage boosted.And if both suck, I'll just bear slam.
>>739487702100% factually correct.
>>739495443You being so mad over a video game is kinda crazy lil bro
>>739487115Crafting was non-existent, and act 3 maps were too big. I always said I didn't hate the game, but those 2 points kept me from wanting to come back.
>>739494896Spell totem Infernalist.
>>739492359>Diablo 4>has 0 Diablosshan't be playing
>>739487115>Why are people on 4chan>on 4chanwhat site are you from, OP? don't be shy, you can tell us
>>739494896Some sort of minions build. I haven't figured out specifics. I've only played Wyvern prior abusing rend and oil blast. I only went with Druid because I thought Apocalypse was pretty cool
>Why are people calling shit shit?!
>>739496091they don't call it poop of excrement: number 2 for no reason lol
>>739496049it's a marketing shill, so the answer is all of them
>>739494896Walking Calamity bear. Was hyped to play companion huntress, something I tried back when Ritualist was added and failed but the streamers made sure the economy for it is thoroughly fucked long before the league even starts so I'll just not bother.
>>739492532D4 loot just sucks. Everything is a stat stick. The damage numbers go into the trillions on some builds, and by the end of leveling you already have basically your end game items, just with lower stats or one missing affix here and there. As you said, the only chase really is mythic uniques and then what? Torment 12 Mephisto and Lilith?
Does anybody here remember shitting dick nipples?
Not playing this shit again until they completely overhaul the skill system. If your skills have four paragraphs of stipulations and special conditions you need to be under to use them effectively then your game is just fucking bad.
>>739492532>he bought slopablo 4>he gave troonizzard money
poop2 is bad. Sorry sis
>>739487690/thread
>>739487115dem niggas at GGG be playin up my haaair pro-duct.i told dem niggas, “dont you be playin, nah” -/v/ critic
D4 won.
>>739495182>Le turn my brain offKill yourself weed and porn addict
>>739487115they really want to play it but theyre mad that they dont have $30so they sit here all day and pretend that they hate the game
>>739496442Yeah, won at being an irredeemably pile of shit
>>739487702akshual fax
>>739496459>NO NO NO EVERY MAP NEEDS TO TAKE 2 HOURS TO COMPLETE Get a job zoom zoom
>>739487702This guy actually knows the lore.holy fuck
>>739494896Either martial artist hollow form hollow palm siphoning strike where I autoshock enemies and siphoning strike them to feed hollow form + create big aoeif that doesn't work because ggg are cunts who wont let hollow form do anything, then I'll probably switch to shattering palm + the gelid palm thing from way of stonefist thunderfist uniques that they showed off. Don't know what I'll do for single target but I'll figure it out
>>739496552>Zoom zoom is when you're able to tell that maps aren't that different to campaignKWAB
I like it way more than poe. Diablo 2 & PoE2 are the best.
>>739496308It is tiring that every skill is a paragraph of cans and cannots. Too much conditional bullshit.
>>739496505>Yeah, won at being an irredeemably pile of shit
>>739496505>an irredeemably pileSAAAAAR
>>739495261>bonded modifiers on every rune>a bunch of hidden passive skills>extra quality effects on every gem>conversion tables for every possible glove modI sure do love modifying the entire game for the benefit of one specific ascendancy class (and not even all the players of that class). I give it maybe a year or two before they realize it's not worth the development effort.
>>739494063Yeah it is. God that was the biggest "how do you do fellow kids" shit I've ever actually seen happen. It was ridiculous people were still trying to defend him when he was being so blatant about it>logs in with a literal mirror tier bis staff equipped>so good it cannot ever be replaced, and could not be gotten without either a fuckload of time and extensive crafting knowledge, or hundreds of thousands of hours of play and id'ing every rare staff you find>says he might need to replace it soon>why?>he thinks its level requirement is too lowAbsolute account buying fucking retard
>>739496769Simple answer is they'll be removed later so don't get used to them.Shit, don't get used to the game period.
Honestly i don't care until the game is done, wake me up when 1.0 is here.
>>739488742>maps are still required to be cleared as fast as possible as they ever were>NOOOO WHY DO PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE FAST???idk maybe make a game where being slow and methodical makes sense and not just a bog standard arpg with a million enemies on the screen
The problem with poe2 is that it isn't very good. In fact, it's still quite bad.
>>739487115its just astralsurfing, nothing new.
>>739496769Yeah, pretty much this. I can see stonefist not really getting updated for a while before it is reworked into something else.What if... TWO GLOVE SLOTS? ONE GLOVE FOR EACH HAND!
Why are the maps and campaign so fuckingLARGEand EMPTY
>>739496951and ring slots for the nose and two nipples.
>>739494896I havent played last patch so playing a bear is completely on the table for me. Rampage build looks great you just run around fast while everything around you dies immediately. I want to get through maps smoothly for atlas points and basically want to experience the new atlas.
PoE Mobile never and that shit been announces like 6 years ago.
>>739496834then he got into a bunch of twitter arguments with streamers. that was some fucking crazy person shit.
>>739495261I'd rather have them make less content overall if we get more unique things like that instead of everything just being a statstick. Also I'm sure besides a few hardcoded edgecases for obvious syngergistic things like howa, thunderfist, facebreaker, etc. there is some mapping of keywords in the unique modifier to new modifier. The giants blood to hollow palm we saw in that one unique is probably just a "if this item allocates a notable, just have it allocate hollow palm instead"
>>739496982Because they're built like explorable video game spaces where you're willing to put up with a bunch of enemies and walking when you find a chest and get excited. Or when you find that 'hidden' boss! In reality the game is still an ARPG about kills/second so the big maps just feel fucking pointless.I mean this is all a consequence of their original design intention. Remember, at one point PoE2's check point system was design to be a borderline bonfire system with respawning enemies and such. Jonathan described the idea of people being unable to beat a boss, so they go off and explore the map and find a rare weapon and equip it. They clearly had isometic elden ring in mind. It eventually warped into something way more like traditional PoE but the maps have not been altered yet as I think they kind of feel like that is admitting it is just PoE 1.5 or something.
>>739496632You can LITERALLY, QUITE LITERALLY speed through a map at endgame faster than doing the slopaign maps. When I say I speed I mean more like a light jog and not poe1 speedster shit. Campaign skip needs to happen or the game is doa.
>>739487115Grindy games attract schizos. Schizos go through an obsessive superfan to obsessive hater pipeline.
>>739497283perfect summary.
Gamerdads are not doing a 60 hour campaign more than once per year, if they ever do it again at all
>>739496703>>739496762>saar he is pojeet saar plz do redeem the slopablo4 so I can get paid saar
>>739491797>tfw you're the "I'm slightly annoyed at the schizos" schizo
>>739497417correct.dont build a game around gamerdads
>>739487115Gameplay wise I wouldn't know, looks fun and proper,BUTthe devs are greedy as fuck, their monetization is cancer and their highest prices are literally luxury -tier, like, you could buy an IRL moped with the price of some shitty armor skin.I also heard the devs are now pandering to the ADD PoE1 fags who want the game to be braindead lawnmower simulator, so that's another reason for me to dislike it.>>739487272This sounds about right.I would've gladly wanted to try the game if they sticked with the initial gameplan, but no, they had to listen to the grind autists.I'll give it a try once it's properly released and "f2p", but I will not give them a cent until I'm sure their product isn't so volatile and the monetization of cosmetics drops down significantly.I've never seen any game this insane in cosmetics pricing - I mean think about it, it's a primarily singleplayer game, and the fun of the game drops DRAMATICALLY once you bring buddies to CooP with you (due to everyone racing to get kills/loot, or bosses dying way too fast)Just that alone makes me wonder, what's the point of whaling for cosmetics in a game like PoE? who can justify those tencent infested prices?
>>739497417You'd be surprised, it's not the gamerdads that are whinging about it the most, it's the zoom zoom build-of-the-week streamer enjoyers. They copy their favorite grifter's build and get very bored very fast with it then blame the length of the campaign for their waning interest in the game.
>>739497493Gamerdads have more money to spend compared to neets and regularly buy mtx. Zoomers are poor and just complain about everything. You already lost this fight and it's only a matter of time.
>>739497650gamerdad money is already allocated to gachaporn.
>>739497837No? Most gamerdads play normie online shit and spends hundreds a month on useless cosmetics.
>>739497535>their monetization is cancerIt's a $45 game that has been given you free expansions for over a decade at that price point. What more do you want, faggot?
>>739497417so they'll play it 3 times before it exits early access
>>739494896Physical Damage Quarterstaff Martial Artist.Random bells for AOE damage and infinite powers/frenzies with Charge Regulation.Back-bell provides me with all the Impales I could ever wantNew tree changes give Monk almost as much increased effect of Armour Break as Warrior has.Staggering Palm (off the random bells naturally) fuels my core damage combo of Vaulting Leap -> Whirling Assault.Not enough damage? I put in Tempest Bell for single target.I've got big AOE, big boss damage, charges, crits, Evasion/ES. Very solid league starter.
>>739498080gamerdads play smt
>>739497572Gamerdads ARE the zoom zoom one button poe crybabies. They cry about muh limited free time and want everything handed to them asap. You need to go out more lil zoom.
>>739498232melty
>>739497238>>739497417After POE1 you can know for sure they want you to play the whole campaign every season in perpetuity.
>>739487115>go to their thread on /vg/not even if you paid me would I go to a board whose entire purpose is to contain namefags, avatarfags, and schizos talking about each other instead of games
>Their official showcases show off bosses being deleted in seconds, with glee>They also say they want meaningful combat
>>739498182I hate the idea of league starters for POE2 because the game is so fucking long that i dont want to ever play the campaign twiceDo you think a monk build somewhat like you described can finish the whole game
>>739498552to be fair those clips are cherrypicked 2-second snippets with literally every debuff in the game already applied to the boss
>>739498553Literally the worst case scenario is you would respec into Invoker and just do some generic ice build. Leveling a monk is pretty safe.
>>739498552if you go back to the start of the games development, they said they want the campaign to be something new and casual players can playthrough and have a fun experience with meaningful combat encounters. for endgame they have zero issue with people zooming and juicing, they consider it a core part of the game. and it has been there since 0.1.
>>739487115Because they want the zoom zoom brainless moshpit of poe 1 rather than a better game. Their opinions should not be taken seriously.
>>739487115Diablo mazed players
>>739487115>ARPG fanbase is filled with miserable boomers shitting into their diapers every 5 seconds about their rapidly aging short circuiting brains fucked worse than the tiktokers they talk shit about constantly NO WAY THE WHOLESOME CHUNGUS ARPG COMMUNITY? NEGATIVE GEEZERS?!?!
>>739498895“…average attention span on a digital device was approximately 150 seconds long. However by the year 2012, that number had plummeted by half, to 75 seconds. Now, recent data from 2024 suggests that it has now reached a staggering low of 47 seconds. (Mark, 2023)”
>>739499021i wish i had enough money to gamble like that
>>739498552it's so funny comparing their current marketing where pinnacle bosses are getting instagibbed to the stuff they were showing before release where a guy takes 5 full minutes to slowly chip down a random map boss
>>739498097I want a $45 game that I pay for once, or a f2p game that sells cosmetics for prices that aren't cancer.Stop normalizing treating digital entertainment like it's justified to ask up to 3 month of food costs for a single cosmetic.People like you are why Star Citizen is brave enough go in to the thousands and somehow gets a pass.If wouldn't be half as bad if they were sold for reasonable prices, but they aren't, so that brings me to the other issue.You are dealing with a game that:>is live service, meaning it's eventually going to close it's servers>you will inevitably lose everything on your account, paid or notI swear, some guys just allow ANYTHING so long as the game is "free"I'd unironically sooner pay subscription than permit f2p games to sell gacha or items priced in the hundreds or even thousands.>yea but if you did that, they'd make less money and we'd get less game!I don't give a shit, it's immoral to sell them and insane to buy them. We, not just the customers, but more importantly the industry need to have standards.>but the buyer decides the value, not you!True, but I also believe retards shouldn't have free access to their own money, just like how parents and banks would hold filthy rich inheritance/wealth from a toddler or a senile
>>739499558i dont know if ive ever seen someone have a melty because they feel like they need to buy cosmetics before
>>739499558>I want a $45 game that I pay for onceThat's what you get with PoE, except that you have an unlimted demo first.
>>739499695I'm sure you have, also I'm not exactly having a meltdown about it, just calling bad design out like anyone criticizing anything. OP asked why "4chan is so fucking negative" and I gave my personal reasoning.I simply can't tolerate developers and customers who treat digital expiry-dated videogame shit like it's worth gold>>739499724No, I get a game where I have to pay more for storage and don't get access to 80%+ of the armor designs
>>739498553Oh yeah, I don't doubt that it's good. The questionable part of this build is the commitment to Physical damage, you could tweak the tree and skill gems to put lightning damage in while removing the Vaulting Slam aspect and the build might end up being better.>I don't want to play the campaign twiceI love playing POE campaigns on league start but I fucking hate playing them twice in one league, so I always pick a league start I intend to finish the league with or is at least the same class as my goal build so I don't have to.Even if the build I described is bad, Martial Artist Quarterstaff monk is not, and in the absolute worst case scenario you could go rerun a Sanctum and respec to Invoker which is already a very tried and very true good ascendancy.
>>739487115This is what you get when you release your dog shit into fake paid Early Access so you can farm your fanbase and lie to their face.The game is released retard. It released in a unfinished dog shit state. Their toxic positivity stockholmed shills will suck their cock defending it.
>>739499558>3 month of food costs for a single cosmetic.wut? i played poe1 for over 10 years, i've spent like 300 dollars, 30-40 of that was for the poe2 beta.
>Still can't use my arctic fox pet I paid like £15 for :sadface:
>>739499984Look at their highest priced items and come back to me on that,just because they have a dollar menu doesn't mean their top priced items aren't vastly over-priced and over-valued
>>739499938>One of the best games ever made is free>Play with only the free stash until you get to fucking red maps or something>Only then does it really become necessary to get stash tabs>Total cost of every relevant stash tab and a quad tab in the game on a sale (every three weeks) is less than $30>Outside of the one time you buy a $30 supporter pack for stash tab dosh they never charge you for new content again>This somehow generates paragraphs of seetheyou are so fucking brown I can smell you through my monitor
>>739487115>listening or taking /v/aggots seriously in anythingthere is your problem. If I would take seriously the contrarian /v/aggots I would have missed out on most of my gaming experiences
>>739499558Holy fucking third world seethe lmao
>>739500121>One of the best games ever made is free
>>739487115the gem system is gay and ruins class identity
>>739487115It's shit because the mods are actually retarded and don't let you talk in game or have fun banter in chat.That's how fucking retarded the game is.
>>739500350i wish this game had class identity.rpg fags unite
the league wiil be dead under 1 week its trash you know its trash we all know its trash movie on already!
>>739500456I'm going to play it though?
>>739500534for how many days?be honest!
>>739487140>>739487216Stop spreading lies and doing your little damage control tencent shills.No one's "ego" has been hurt and nobody has been "humbled" or any nonsense like that.The game is simply an unplayable mess and hot garbage with countless problems that GGG has no idea how to solve.And no it is not about poe being better (it is not) ,neither is it about slow paced gameplay and all that bullshit. The game has supposedly blood mages without any blood magic spells. It has a chronomancer with no actual time related abilities except some shitty rewind mechanic. It has an unarmed monk that you cannot actually play as unarmed and no the shitty new ascendancy will not change that.And as if that was not enough, almost two years since release it still has NO FUCKING SWORDS but it will have a fucking grenade launcher next patch.This game must be a comedy bit and not an actual product, there is no other explanation.
>>739500594eh, probably a month or so. Can try different builds, get to maps. check out the new endgame, try another new build, check out other new endgame stuffthere's really a bunch of new stuff to check out and get to
>>739500679super agreed on the bloodmage and chrono points.game designers afraid of novelty because of frothy player base
>>739487115This game is dogshit.
If you weren't aware, devs did an interview with some streamer earlier. Key points;>Various Act 3 maps reworked (for example there's no longer a pointless empty segment after Viper, you just head straight into the next zone after killing her)>There's a lot of unannounced secret stuff for players to find in 0.5, more than they've ever done before (they already hinted at the secret Acolyte of Chayula ascendency weeks ago)>There's still going to be league/economy resets between 0.5 and 1.0, they won't have massive updates accompanying them but will be adding skills/uniques along with the third ascension for Ranger and Druid>Act 5 and 6 are content complete and the entire rest of their focus is going to be on balance, they're looking at absolutely everything from the ground up>TotA probably not going to be in 1.0 (lol)
poe2 players calling 0.4 the worst league ever then calling it the best league ever when it turned into press button get tink was really embarrassing
>>739488125The funniest thing to me about the story is that they have a character that doesn't believe in the worlds gods and just is an atheist and you literally fight gods in the game. It is one of the most baffling characters storywise in the game.
>>739500804>they already hinted at the secret Acolyte of Chayula ascendency weeks agoWhat interests me more is that they mentioned several of them.
>>739500718You will last 1 week at the most
>>739500775I don't think they are afraid, I think they are simply uncreative retards that are more concerned with their always online skinner box and muh economy, than actually making a proper arpg.
>>739500804I hate the campaign so much I wish they added an adventure mode Give the skill points from quests at certain levels for all I care.
>>739501048sure, possible
>>739500040why would you need the most expensive cosmetic mtx to play the game?
>>739500804>Act 3 maps reworkedthis is whatever, I want them to keep the huge labyrinthine maps because it makes tradies seethe>More than they've ever done beforeI'm guessing most of that hidden stuff is in the new questline they introduced in the trailer and then never spoke about again>Act 5 and 6 are feature completeI had a feeling that these have been feature complete for a while, they just didn't release them because it's a bigger content drop to release Acts 5 and 6 for 1.0. I also think that they are probably touching up Acts 1-3, which right now get fucking embarrassed by Act 4 (and probably 5+6) in quality.>TOTA not in 1.0 i agree: LOL
>>739501080when will you niggers stop BEGGING for GGG to turn POE into D4, a game you somehow also relentlessly mock? helltide leveling sucks cock and if you want to see what an actual slog campaign looks like try replaying Last Epoch's campaign for a third leaguefuck off and die, brownskin
>>739489917I'm ngl I love Grim Dawn and Farthest FrontierBut that new cat and dog dlc for farthest frontier is so expensive and only adds 3 new animal types and not much else. They really dropped the ball with that one.
poe2 would be good if they brought back scourge league
>>739488025That's around 3% of the players it had at the peak, and the majority of these are just chink botters. This game has a very big RMT scene, one of the creators used to own a RMT site.
>>739487115I'm enjoying PoE2 but it is missing a lot of critical shit considering how long it has been in EA. It is amazing there is still no hybrid input and still no fucking SWORDS.
>>739501186dude the campaign is a slog and it only had 4 acts of 6
>>739501249campaign is my favorite part.
>>739501186epoch's campaign is actually goodit has shortcuts and you don't even need to complete it more than once a league
>>739500896>Most bafflingare you autistic? It's pretty blatant that Niles is being played for comedy as a retard pseud. Every single one of the other heisters hates him.I also hate Niles, not because he's a "baffling character storywise" but because I think that redditor fedora-tipper character is far, FAR beneath POE's dignity as a narrative game and just in general I don't think punching bag comedy characters like Meg Griffin are entertaining.
>>739501290thats ok plenty of people eat shit
I'm mostly disappointed I paid to get a new style of game, and they're just turning it back into poe1. My money feels entirely wasted because at this point you're fucking retarded to play poe2 at all, it's just worse poe1.
>>739501394dude exactly.
>>739501249Have you tried not being an incompetent retard who takes 10 hours per act? The only reason the campaign should take any time at all is if you're homebrewing and making it up as you go along which takes time. Because you're posting like you have a drool cup I will safely assume you play trade league, which means you're whining about a campaign you're playing with the best leveling guide you googled beforehand. What the fuck are you whining about?
>>739501394>new style of game>rolling around like a pig
>>739501457big melty
>>739501394PoE without the loot, without the endgame, without the league mechanics and without the crafting.
>>739501457actually i played HC
The interludes are much better than the campaignThey have perfect pacing and map sizes
>>739487115every one of these threads is just an excuse for /vg/ autists to come here and shill this slop
>>739487115its not f2p
>>739501592>I like the part of the game where it short :)))))>It good because.....my build is already online and um...it fast!!!!!
whats the OP starter gonna be
>>739501627its just ggg marketers trying to bring the product to top of mind.it works btw.
>>739501685they worried about that shitty D4 they do this every time they release a crappy expansion
why are poe2 players throwing a tantrum over every single post?why are they like this?
>>739501216The game can't be dead and have a huge RMT scene at the same time. Pick one narrative.
>>739501592I like them too. I know they're mostly recycled assets but it's still a shame they're going to be thrown into the trash at 1.0.
>>739487140>>739487209>>739487291This. Video games as a whole, much like everything else, are being completely destroyed by extremely stupid, ego-ridden manchildren. Most of them are in their 40's, just a bunch of fat, self-absorbed, malignant cocksuckers who can't do anything other than covet and complain.People who should have done a better job at gatekeeping these nigger-brains out of everything back into their normgroid quarantine zones.
>>739501658Exceptionally grim and embarrassing postGo outside
>>739501541A NEW game to institute NEW loot and NEW endgame mechanics and systems instead of mapslop>>739501458yup now everyones 5 billion movespeed obliterating the entire instance in a half second, again, no reason to ever touch poe2, poe1 is better in every single way and poe2 is just poe1 but slightly nicer looking.
>>739487702TRVKE
its it funny that the game that lets you kill gods has invincible guards in act 3 i mean what the fuck
>>739487140fibby bibby mad cuz bad, tale as old as time
>Spears got added but are retarded hybrid melee/thrown weapons instead of based polearms>Claws got fucking canceled>All the other melee weapons nowhere to be seen, so maces are your only option for purely physical meleePOE2 is a shit game if you like to play anything but ranged or caster
>>739502203>POE2 is a shit game if you like to play anything but ranged or casterThis is universally true for every single ARPG though.
>>739494896i say different builds anytime this is asked to fuck with the casuals heads.today its spell totems infernalist
>>739502203Bro your quarterstaves?
>>739502203>maces are your only optionQuarterstaves and talisman>purely physical meleeHalf of the mace skills are fire attacks
>>739500456>wiil be dead under 1 weekIt has more than twice the peak of Marathon and the league is almost 4 months old at this point.
>>739500679ah, one of /poeg/'s resident mazed doomsissy schizos is in here I see.
>>739500896Niles you mean? His atheism is comic relief precisely because gods are obviously real in path of exile. They make a lot of tongue in cheek jokes about it while you do his heist quest contracts and such.
>>739487115Simplification of the math made build variety almost non-existent and buildcrafting insanely boring
>>739500679At a minimum they need to fix whatever's going on with the shaders and the servers. Both of them are fucking me up constantly and the game's a stuttery mess.
>>739501824Yes it can, Chang
>>739503153As someone who runs mirror tier builds in both games every league I'm going to save you the humiliation of asking for specifics, because we both know you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>739487115I never played it. What's the big problem with it? I heard that the bosses are more like Dark Souls. Sounds a bit gay to me. But again, never played it.
>>739487115>Why are people on 4chan so insanely fucking negative about PoE2Because you're not speaking with people who genuinely played it, most of the time I see someone speak about this game is to shit on it and say diablo 4 is better (it isn't)
>>739503394theyx werewhich was funnow its just oneshot everything sadly
>>739494657BASEDtell those fags off
>>739503394The campaign bosses are fun the first time you go up against them, after that they become boring.Grinding maps is also unbelievably boring, I'll never understand why people care so much about ARPGs.
>>739503347>put all ponts in % damage of whatever damage type you're dealing or deal no damageThere's virtually no multipliers in the game to help give you free points to play around with unless you can go shock/crit.
>>739503769Get your ADD checked
>>739500121>>739500289Leave it to absolute mouthbreathers to automatically fall back on their classic "you're poor" or "you're brown" fallacy, whenever their downright predatory and insane pricing is rightfully shat onLike I said, I'd literally rather pay subscription or full price than play free and never give a cent to cosmetics which are astromonically priced.I would like to buy them, but I won't support a game or reward them for such practices with such stupid ass unjustifiable prices.You have the chink mentality, everything is fair game so long as the game is "free" and someone is willing to pay for it
>>739503769How dopamine damaged are you at this point?
>>739494657This, PoE2 is my favorite new arpg because of how slow it is compared to the rest where you insta clear a map just by entering it. A shame they seem to be making it more zoomy but I still hold out hope.
>>739501840This is correct, its why Gacha games are so popular and why cheating & pay to win in competitive games is at an all time high
>>739503789>put all ponts in % damage of whatever damage type you're dealingSee, you have no clue. That's not how it works. Every time you scale a new vector for the first time it acts as MORE damage, instead of increased damage.
>>739504018All increases that affect a damage instance are additive
>>739503883>>739503902What's the point of the skinnerbox treadmill?>Grind gear so that you can grind gear even faster
>>739503923i wish they made poe2 more like no rest for the wicked
>people who arent fans of the genre get brought it with the sequel
>>739501458Were you rolling around like a pig in PoE 1 or not?
>Maces, spears and quarterstaves againmeleebros...
>>739487115buy an ad
reminder async trade killed path of exile
>>739504113Okay, buckle up nigger, time for some 3rd grade math. You have lightning spear and it does 100dps, you picked a node that gives you +20% lightning damage, now you do 120dps. You get another skill point and you can chose between anothre +20% lightning damage node, or a +20% spear damage node? Which do you pick? Obviously the spear node, because 100 x 1.2 x 1.2 = 144 > 100 x 1.4 = 140. Hope that helps.
>>739504394All increases that affect a damage instance are additive
The name of the game is in the compy GRINDING gear GAMES
>>739504512You're a FUCKING retard don't ever talk to me again redditor retard zoomer
>>739504707oh you MAD mad aight
>>739504394The lightning damage/spear damage example doesn't work, because they are both increased damage and thus additive with each other.A better example: If you had the option of another 20% lightning or spear damage node, or a "enemies take 20% increased damage under (condition you fulfill)" node or "gain 20% of damage as (element) node" then those would act as "more" the first time around since they all would multiply each other, while having "increased lightning damage" and "increased damage with spears" would add with each other for a lightning spear attack.
>>739504286Really that's all for melee? Not even axes or daggers? Did they go full meme weapons in PoE2 and try to avoid all common RPG tropes weapon types?
>>739504394Anon. The 20% spear and 20% lightning get added to 40% increased damage. The increases don't happen independent.This even happens with conversions. Say you have a melee aoe with 50% cold conversion that deals 100dps and you take a 20% phys, a 20% aoe and a 20% cold node.For the phys half of the damage you get 40% increased damage so 70phys DPS and for the cold half of the damage you get 60% increased so 80cold dps for a total of 150dps
>>739487115I wanted slower PoE 1. I got that in the first month or two of early access release and had fun with my SSF Infernalist Witch. I was rather proud of my shitty build I made myself that could stay in demon form permanently. Then they nerfed all the things I liked but none of them were the horrendous builds that crashed the server or cleared the end game bosses in under 5 seconds. Then they kept making the game more and more like PoE 1 which is sprinting forward as the screen explodes. That was never fun. Half the players are like me and the other half are mad it's not even faster.
I know nothing about the game other than knowledge I’d passively gain from playing Diablo 2 as a childWill I like the monk class if shallow monk martial arts movies are my favorite movie genre?
>>739504394nigga you have no idea how poe works
>>739505226kys tranny loser
>>739503394POE1 is an ARPG based on economy with terrible horrible gameplaybecause it has terrible gameplay the main goal is to play it as little as possible by wiping entire screens and never being in danger, which allows you to make more money for the economyPOE2 added really fun gameplay and slowed the game down to make you engage with that gameplayPOE1 players are fucking freaks who legitimately get upset that they have to play the game instead of just popping screens with one button and grabbing their economy money. POE1 players cry at the dev whenever a build is good that there's no build diversity because they feel "forced" to play whichever build streamers say plays the least game and gets the most money.Basically POE1 is a game for the 35 year old equivalent of senile boomers mindlessly tapping slot machines and POE2 is a game for people who really like good video games. People that 'shit on' POE2 are the POE1 players trying to browbeat the developers into turning 2 into the mindless slot machine.>But it's not like POE1 ended development, why would they seethe about POE2because they are locusts and scum
>>739505236Don't bother with the game until it launches. It's not fun and not finished.
>>739501592They arent but they are better than endgame mapsThe atlas map shit should just be thrown in the trash and replaced with multiple itemized, rerunnable interludes
1 has better vibes. That's all it is
>>739505357Yeah man, nothing beats that visual clarity and top tier art direction.
They keep making the game faster so thats good, should be a worthy sequel to PoE 1 by 1.0 release. No one wants to play a soulslop ARPG
>>739505434replacing breach with keepers was actual sabotage
>>739487115I played just after release and found it incredibly unrewarding. I pumped a few hundred hours into the game and even with two characters I ended up going for weeks without a single found upgrade and the currency drops were fucking awful. When they reset the characters and broke the builds and gear I noped the fuck out of there.I bought it on PlayStation and I'm playing PC now so I don't see myself buying it again.
>>739505542Sounds like a skill issue, bro. Let me guess, you didn't need a guide because you knew what you were doing?
>>739505542another filtered poe1jeet KEK KWAB
>>739505276don't lie on the internet, PoE2 turned into PoE1 gameplay once you spent a little time in mapsthey're just leaning into it now
>>739497205these are the consequences of trying to make a slower more exploration focused game like diablo 1 while also trying to appeal to live service addicts. you can't have your cake and eat it too. poe2 just feels schizophrenic in its design
>>739505825these retards dont remember the shit that was CoC comet builds in the very first patch of the game, then Lightning Spear deleting screens when it was added followed by the game speeding up every patch with powercreeping the old shit
>>739487115>go to their thread on /vg/ like 50% of the thread is just calling the game shit over and overso just like 90% of /vg/ threads
