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As fans, how can we save the Final Fantasy franchise?
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The time to try and get FF back on course was with XII's shitty gameplay 20 fucking years ago. It's far too late at this point.
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"Did not meet expections" is just corpo speak for "No, faggot. It did not make 700billion dollars in one day. Fucking retard."
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>>740461970
They've already done that assuming it won't be a flop
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>completely irrelevant franchise with no cultural impact after all
What went so wrong?
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>>740462274
It's kind of astounding that they're still trying to push AoT shit at this point. What's more baffling is that's apparently selling.
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>>740461970
as a fan of old square, i will never give a dime to squeenix
they have been a shambling corpse for longer than they were GOAT at this point
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turd based sissies are mentally ill.
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>>740462249
I think a lot of people would buy like a $140 triple pack of the full remake, on release day.
So yes, if they can market something like that properly, it will save them.
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>>740461970
I get that the Fagola Nova Crystalis or whatever its called was so out there it almost killed them but the series is too boring and unambitious now, it goes beyond turn based or real time.
Once Revelation drops they are fucked
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>>740461970
Fire Yoshi P and disband CBU 3. The man is the peter principle embodied. Only it wasn't even his talent that allowed him to rise to the level above his competency. It was Soken. He sat back and slowly eroded every competent decision FF ever had hiding behind Soken and callbacks to games and characters he didn't create to give the illusion he knows what he's doing. Every minute he stays at SE is one minute more it's eroded by his terrible personal decisions. But as long as he hides behind a talented musician carrying his projects and tonberries I guess nobody is smart enough to smoke him out as a hack.
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>>740461970
Persona fags are so afraid of persona 6 reveal not being anything special tomorrow lmao
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Revelations being multiplat at launch will help. I expect Remake and Rebirth to get heavy discounts throughout the rest of the year. The only thing Square Enix needs to worry about is people actually playing Rebirth because it is a bloated piece of shit.
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>>740463627
>suddenly mentioning persona out of the blue
why are you so afraid of Persona anon? Did it hurt your superiority complex?
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>>740463825
Not at all, OP is a ritual shitposter thats clearly motivated by fanboyism. Personafags have an inferiority complex and i wouldnt be surprised.
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>>740463917
or maybe you're just retarded
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>>740391059
>>739790424
mentally ill retard
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>>740461970
why don't they ask their Ethics Department since those seems to be the only ones they listen to.
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>>740463970
kek, they cant wait for their high school simulator again for the 6th time
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>>740464060
and yet every time this anime dating sim series is mentioned you still get triggered like a high school girl
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Whatever happened to the FF9 Remake? We know it was real since literally every game from the initial leak came out or got revealed
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jack's game won
they should hire team ninja to do another game, give them more budget
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>>740464592
Probably after the FF7 Rebirth blunder they are afraid to invest money in another shit game.
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>>740463328
A lot of "people" didn't even buy the debirth bundle like that
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>>740464903
>LOOK A FINAL FANTASY 7 PROJECT SOLD MORE

of course you would use this soulless information to determine success
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>>740464592
supposedly sent back into the mines with the restructuring that happened after rebirth flopped
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>>740463753
revelation is going to be even more bullshit so I cannot imagine people wanting to play it after rebirth at all
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>>740461970
The problem has been the amount of years between mainline releases. Kids these days have basically only FF15 and FF16, compared to previous generations that had 5+ FF titles release during their time as kids.

Thee FF7 Remake release schedule was a game every two years, but there was a huge barrier to entry with tons of people that had no interest in FF7, were mad about the Remake title bait and switch, and then weren't interested in playing a Part 2 or Part 3 of a game they didn't play the previous entries of.

If Square keeps releasing games every two years, but it's FF 17, 18, 19, 20 all that can be picked up by anyone with no prior knowledge, then they can rebuild a fanbase with a new generation.

We've spent the last decade with the series tied up in nostalgia wanking. Put out consistent new games, get consistent new fans.
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>>740464962
Because it's not the full thing...
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>>740461970
wait, there is a final fantasy xvi?
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>>740465261
modern games try far too hard to be dark and edgy. the golden era of FF with its PS1 graphics at least leaves room for players imaginations.
yeah it’s possible to create good dark and edgy games but the modern SE just can’t deliver
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>>740462274
imagine being mogged by a fucking licensed game.
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>>740465120
I was alarmed by the interviews from today. Bigger map, more mini games, expanded Wutai story.
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>>740465609
Have you played Rebirth? It's much more colorful than Remake or XVI. I don't think "room for imagination" is that important if you can just have colorful clean visuals. Just using your screenshot as an example, do you think we can't have pig people NPCs in modern games or something without it breaking immersion? Cuz I don't think there's any problem with that.
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>>740461970
Games devoid of soul.
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>>740463030
>PS5
>Physical
>In Japan
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>>740461970
I don't know how they managed to make such flashy combat look so boring.
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>16
well yea, it sucked. Square should give up on this "action" gameplay. they don't know what they're doing
>7
Now that's surprising.
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It's a shame because Rebirth is a genuinely great game that may get forgotten by history, one of the best games I've played in the past 20 years.
Revelation completing the trilogy will be a massive sales boost for the series and company. Obviously a multiplat launch ensures a bigger opening and lifespan impact but it's also finally presenting a complete product.

The FF7 Remake Trilogy has yet to even begin it's milking phase, it'll be a money printer
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>>740462274
HOLY MOGGED
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>>740461970
Idealistic proportions and faces.
Combat with no face buttons. And token if not a mode so it's token. So anybody can play it.

Choose if you're male or female. Play with both and 2 players possible.

No homo.

Futuristic. With hoverbikes straight out of Destiny, but faster.

Custom faces and clothes.

Realistic physics that are never broken. What is impressive is doing things well not flying around kamehamehaing.

Story is tech is the good guys. Need to minimise resource usage and extend lifespans as long as possible. And land is largely uninhabitable or will be. Visuals an illusion. A caring creation so people don't suffer.

See more of the problem as you get more capable. Solve it. Restore the world. Or aid systems that will optimally allocate and refine resources into human continuance.

Some ship flying stuff. Asteroid field navigation like Rebel Assault Remake. Canyon runs at will, in and out.

You're charged with keeping everything going. But at the same time it isn't on your side. You see things from the worst perspective of them. Right the wrongs from there. All against you attention is on you. As things turn to your favour and aid you you have to wonder who suffers in that and aid them as if they exist. Some things brought into being or confirmed by treatment and assistance. Structure for them that suits them. Elements. Gods. Aid. Etc. Whatever. Company. People some of this. Lots in one. Mostly cooperating instead of competing. Same likes same aims.

Race natural disasters.
Face them as human entities.
Try to keep the venerebility for communicating.

Areas ask for assistance and can wait. You arrive as this threat. Aware of it being it. It otherwise taken care of, pretending it's fine.

Success is that made true. And meeting who they have faith in.

Expected to look or listen at nice things. Whatever your capability searching for something wonderful. By that faith in it. Good your God and girl.

Or if you're a gal your guy. Nothing you can say e
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>>740461970
FFXVI and Rebirth are the best ones though
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>>740462249
many people who just watched playthroughs of the first two parts due to not having a ps5 are going to actually buy part 3 thanks to multi plat.
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>>740461970
Already fixed. Multiplat day 1.
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>>740465610
You mean one of the most successful multimedia franchises of all time?
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>>740475000
This. Only think is leaving 7r hell behind, but with this combat, no 3 games no exclusivity and a party system they can easily make decent games
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>>740462274
Oh are you that black clover fag always saying this about mha?
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>>740466152
excellent way to miss the point entirely, marketer-kun, surely this will make people buy your game
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>>740462274
>>740475872
Oh hi there Astafag!
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>>740463030
>turd based sissies are mentally ill.
True. This amount of delusional and hate is clearly unhealthy.
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>>740462249
>Assuming it won't be a flop.
Given the last two have been flops, this is bound to be a flop.
Inb4
>It was the PS5 exclusivity's fault!
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>>740461970
It's not the fans' responsibility. But SE could save the franchise by getting a proper tard wrangler, stop letting the current people direct or write without proper tard wrangling, quit trying to throw every single fucking idea under the FF label, and start going back to their actual roots for inspiration instead of trying to chase trends, appeal to pop culture, and think visually wowing will sell a game like its still 1999.

>>740462218
The problem is shareholders are so fucking stupid that if something doesn't meet their expectations, no matter how retarded those expectations are, they will cancel future projects. Though, with FF at this point, that would not be a loss.
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>>740461970
>As fans, how can we save the Final Fantasy franchise?
Probably by rounding up every short zero prospect failed male that watches sebbywebz and having the govt torture and kill them on a livestream in funny creative ways for everyone's amusement, especially the amusement of women who find these men pathetic and subhuman :)
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At this point we probably can't. They're too deep in their own shit and shills aren't convincing anyone. Has the trailer for the new one even hit the 1m mark or did they bot the wrong trailer again?
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>>740461970
>make a game called Final Fantasy VII: Remake
>it's not a remake, but a sequel
>need to play every little FF7 spinoff and watch a movie to figure out what the fuck is going on

Hmm weird how this didn't attract new players
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>>740462176
FPBP
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>>740461970
>how can we save the Final Fantasy franchise?
By telling SquareEnix to stop putting 90% of time and resources on muh graphix (or worse, muh fps) and muh realism and the remaining 10% on what really matters (gameplay, story, content) so that every game takes a decade to be made, and when it finally releases it's yet another unfinished mess.

>Whatever happened to the FF9 Remake?
Canceled, I hope.
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>>740467730
because it looks like a bunch of cutscenes slapped together in the middle of nowhere
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>>740461970
turning a 30 hour game into a 300 hour one where you need to wait 7 (i bet someone at squenix thought he was smart for making it take 7 years) to actually play the whole thing didnt seem to be a good idea
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>>740465261
It's actually insane how from 6 to 10, which are among the top FF's, the wait time between them was only like 2 years.



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