Yacht Club Games have officially made this game into a success, secured the future of their studio, and are well on their way to 1 million copies+ sold!
>>740634505>secured the future of their studioYeah, right. Shovel Knight made 80 million dollars and they still almost went bankrupt. These guys are just bad with money. I expect them to go bankrupt developing their next game, regardless of how successful Mina is.
>>740634505another trillionto blm
This game will have no impactIn the future there will still be devs who say there game takes inspiration from Link's Awakening and other titlesThere wont be a dev who says their game is based on MinaIt's entirely derivative and has no personal identity
>>740634837>These guys are just bad with moneyNo, you don't understand, they NEEDED an extremely expensive office in one of the most expensive cities in the US! Of all the dumbfuck things to blow money on. This is like giving a winning lottery ticket to a crackhead.
Mina won so fucking hard.
>>740634505>Mina the Hollower sells 500,000 copieswhy?
thats a lot of money that is going to go to blm
>>740635019>>740635351SEETHE chuds.
>>740635351>>740635019Imagine being this pressed over 20K
nice, can't wait to see what blm does with all the money
>>740636396seething, boiling
Blast Lives Matter
>>740635840go ahead and light a stack of 20k on fire with a straight face
>>740634837No, it's cool, they can just have their journo friends help them pitywhore their way to success again.
With this game's success, they could probably double or triple their donation.
>>740635840even vocally expressing support for them and giving them $0 would be enough for me to wish for their studio to burn down with everyone inside.
>>740635167Don't forget all the charities they gave money to.And like 12 shovel knight DLC's.When they made like... two games? I forgot if they made that cyber ninja game or just published it.
>>740635019>>740635351>>740636396>>740636459>>740636714have some respect for St Floyd niggers
I wish I could live rent free for six years like that
>>740636838Then miss out on the greatest gaming experience of the year, petty bitch. Makes no difference to me.
>>740637067Donating money to charity is at least something, even if the charity was probably something gay and leftist. It's another thing to blow money on a grossly overpriced office for the "hustle and bustle of the big city life!!11!!"
>>740634505That's it?
>>740638872I think donating money to marginalized groups such as LGBT and BLM makes you a decent human being, but you should only do that if you can afford it. Yacht Club ran their business like a charity rather than an actual business. I'm surprised they actually released Mina.
>muh blm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!three things1. 20k is an absolute pittance compared to what some other companies donated (millions or more)2. it was literally a one-time donation, six years ago3. they haven't spoken a single word about BLM since thenbut keep making up fanfiction about how "mina sales are going to BLM", whatever it takes to cope with a good game being successful
>>740638973>I think donating money to marginalized groups such as LGBT and BLM makes you a decent human beingWe already donate to blacks and faggots, it's called "taxes." They don't need MORE handouts.
>get to enjoy a great game AND watch /vpol/ faggots melt down over itNice.
>>740634837>and they still almost went bankrupt.maybe if their club didn't all buy yachts they'd have money to work with
>>740638996Disingenuous as ever. The problem isn't that it "goes to BLM," the problem is that the money goes to people who *would* donate it to bullshit prog funds like BLM.
>>740639138>a-a-aackshually (moves goalposts)thanks
>>740638996>3. they haven't spoken a single word about BLM since thenBecause, just like every other BLM donation, the corporations don't actually give a fuck and are just doing it because it's easily-purchasable positive PR. Being able to just drop some cash on a random organization and say "look look we care about you, now buy our product" is a pretty common move for large corporations and BLM was a perfect target for that.
>>740639184that's where the goalpost always was. people are just trying to be nice to you by spelling it out for you. but even that seems to be too much.
>>740634505I had never heard of this game before now.
>>740635019Can you wear a BLM shirt while we fuck?
>>740634505Now just avoid throwing your money into a burning pit renting a studio in LA and maybe you'll have time to make two more games before fading into irrelevance
>>740635167Business is mostly about appearances so they were renting a $5 million dollar a year office.
>>740638973lol, this post looks like it came straight from Reddit. You’re such a fag.
>10 million before storefront fees and taxes>probably 5/6 million after all thatfeel like thats not that much for an entire studio who hasnt done shit but this one game for most of a decade
>>740639360Play Pipistrello and the Cursed Yoyo:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2870350/Pipistrello_and_the_Cursed_Yoyo/
>>740635019I was looking for this post and if it wasn't there I was the one posting.
500K copies sold yet I've never actually seen anyone talk about the game that wasn't a blatant marketing threadstrange
>>740639489shoo shoo macaco
>>740639736copeyou lost, /vpol/ faggot
>>740634505The sob story always works for indies, fucking always.>Guys, please, our game... we're gonna go out of business.... we're.... please....
>>740641463this time it was true because we saw them selling their office and supplies, but it was their fault for being stupid and getting an office in a very expensive city and even buying a fucking grill
>>740639489gameplay doesn't look bad, but those character designs are really fucking rough
>>740641534Theatre show. I don't believe for a fucking second they were struggling.
>>740634505NO NO NO NO NO GUYSI did everything to stop themI shilled other games in the threadsI spammed the blm postI told my whole family it was pozzed jewish slop indie trashTHISCAN'T BEHAPPENING
>>740641463Why else would they move to California? To be close to all of the industry hacks who paint turds gold for a living.
>>740641463>>740641918>nooo they're lying it's all fake theatre aahhhhhhCope. You lost.
>>740634505Is the game actually good?Shovel guy game was meh for me.
>>740634505another goyslop success story. yay, I guess.
>>740635213fun gam
>>740644169Pirate it and find out. It has one leg up from Shovel Knight in that it lets you cheese some areas if you know what to equip for what areas. Don't let fags here say you didn't beat the game unless you played completely naked on level 1.Other tips if you go past the first boss>Go south from the town and free a girl from one of the buildings, she's a merchant.>Talk to the newspaper girl to find out what area is recommended to go next>If nothing's blocking the edge of the map, you can walk to the next screen
>>740641805It was made by Brazilian macacos so the artwork is loud and gaudy like they are.But it'd got a metric ton of SOVL.
>>740634505/vpol/ lost kek. Looks like the hate campaign failed miserably.
nice, now they only need to double that to break even
>>740645118>cheese
>>740634505So 10 million revenueMinus 30% SteamMinus taxMinus office expenses etc for yearsMinus paying the team for yearsThat's like okay
>>740645842You know they'll have another sob story ready in six to nine months right? BLM is celebrating their donations right now.
>>740645914I said okay, not great
>>740639138You mean like every fucking company? Remember when every company donated to pride events and then stopped when it became unpopular. Companies have no loyalty just what ever makes them look good its foolish to think otherwise.
>>740634837Trvke, oh well not my problem maybe they can get some kickstarter subbies to pay for their doordash
>>740638345Sorry. I just can't put aside my morals and donate money I know will be going to fund a death cult. RIP to Austin Metcalf and Iryna Zarutska among many other innocent people that were cut down while the left cheered for death and howled for blood
>>740634505Thanks for the free mansion, IDIOTS!
>>740635840they gave 20k to each org, 200k total
>>740638872What if I told you the charity blew money on a grossly overpriced office for the exact same reason
>>740634505[DEVASTATING NEWS] Tranny faggots buy fucking dogshit game
Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?Insanity is trying to predict the next flop and getting it wrong over & over & over & over & over again like an absolute retard, expecting shit to change. That is fucking crazy.
>>740635840>giving 20k to burning/looting citiesI think I'm entitled to a free copy of the game as reparations
>>740649156ten million revenue compared to all of their expenses over years is not very healthy
>>740649630try being a little less of an obsessed schizo addicted to getting embarrassed in these threads before you talk about health
>>740637067Charities are tax write offs
>>740650137I feel like people say that without knowing what they're talking about. Maybe you don't have to pay taxes on the money anymore, sure, but..you don't have the money. Maybe in a case where your friend owns the charity it could be part of a complicated money laundering thing. They do regulate charities some though.
>>740639130it's actually BYOY
>>740650037Don't get upset that the numbers don't add up very well500k copies x 20 USD = 10 million dollarsThey worked on it for 6 years, said to have about 15 employees. If we pretend each employee made a 100k salary (which is absurdly modest for that area) then that's already 9 million dollars. And this is ignoring the office they rented, Steam's cut, and taxes. All you have are insults because you can't even do napkin math.
>>740634505uhhhh blm posters... how do we spin THIS???
BLM won
>>740650673
>>740635156i'm a big mega man fan so i enjoyed shovel knightbut yeah outside of every indie cameo i just feel like he hasn't really had much staying power
>>740650673>And this is ignoring the office they rented, Steam's cut, and taxesYou don't think the devs themselves accounted for that when making their estimates on Mina's success, you absolute retard?For reference, Shovel Knight sold 180K in 1 month, so Mina already blew that away.
game looks like shit, like Zelda on Gameboy but they aren't limited by the tech of their time like in the past.
>>740652534If you can somehow magically make that 500k sales equal to more than 10 million then please do share. You didn't post anything that contradicted the numbers. And really, those numbers are extremely charitable. 100k is poverty where they are. Is this really how your brain works? The numbers just work out because you really want them to?
It'll probably have a million in about a years time. They aren't have going to accounted for sales prices though. Not that they'll give it a decent sale price ever
tfw not allowed to pick up the Rose because of sub 0% ...
anti-furry /v/ermin absolutely malding ITT kek
>>740650510It's less money than you would have lost otherwise, really simple.
Based Mousewife has earned it
I thought BLM was outed as a scam and the founders ran off?
>>740635019Or, back in reality, another trillion in federal funds to space x
>>740653339No, that was the trump phone, and the trump foundation and the trump university and citizens united.
>>740653339>>740653390Ladies, ladiesYoure both right, everything is a fucking scam
even video games are a scam....
I thought about purchasing the game since I pirated it and enjoyed it (only ~12h in but I'm taking my sweet time since I'm struggling to navigate the areas), but since it sold well... I don't think I will, they don't need my $20.
>>740639097this
>>740639097>>740656340>post YFW you're not a chud
>>740652705b-b-but the devs said that have a magic printer that turns a small amount of money into a big amount of money dumbo. It's not a flop! Stop calling it a flop!!!!
>>740634505Well they better because they said they needed over a million to avoid bankrupcy lol
>>740645842>>740645914You're beyond miserable if you think this is bad in any capacity.
>>740642193You completely fucked up, the correct course of action was to do nothing.
>>740634505Good for them.Still the game is way too expensive. GBC games should at most cost $5 at launch.
it's a good game. it's fair to not be happy with their woke policies but it is a legitimately good game. /v/ screeching 'IT'S A SHITT GAME' for the past week is just pathetic. go back to fellating subnautica 2 and slay the spire 2. you clearly have no real principals
>>740653175Tax rates are never above 100% so false
>>740658519Right, it cuts from other income as well
>>740658667It cuts from other income so you don't pay taxes on that money. Instead you pay 100% of that money to charity. That's more than the taxes
Half a million copies? Wow- they might be able to rent that fancy office next to the beach for a few more days!
>>740658723You're right, my badMicrosoft donates out of the goodness of their heart
How did the right lose the culture war so badly?
>>740658868Microsoft donates for the PR benefit. It's called CSRIf you can explain how giving away money magically results in you having more money after taxes, I'm all ears
>>740658965https://www.goodbox.com/2021/10/why-do-companies-give-to-charity/
>>740659217This is just exactly what I said
good, i need more art of her
any hints? the way it looks suggests you would maybe enter from outskirts but I found nothing.
>>740659336nvm I'm retarded lol
Didn't Silksong sell 5x that amount in the same time?
>>740659316Shut the fuck up
>>740659514The donation is subtracted from the profits. Companies pay some tax on the profits (that is less than 100%). When the donation is subtracted from the profits, they no longer pay the tax, but they pay 100% of the donation to charity.How the fuck is this such a hard concept to grasp?
>>740659561Kill yourself
>>740659591I still don't get where the confusion is coming from
>>740634505Is the game any good tho?
>>740659640It's the third best game of the year so far (terrible at selling though) from the esteemed Shovel Knight developers.
Mina the Hollower is a sincere GotY contender. I mean places like Keighley will never recognize a pixelated game. But it is a GotY tier game.
>>740659797Honestly it's a win by defaults, there hasn't been a single good game released in years.
>>740659561So they are using money that would have gone to taxes to give it to some corrupt niggers who steal the money
>>740659716>third best game of the yearThere hasn't been a single good game this year
>>740634505>retroslop
Where in the crypts is a fishing spot?
>>740659892Crimson Desert had potential. Hopefully they'll fix the story, controls, lighting, add a character creator and maybe add some decent modding support. That'd make it goty easily.
The game is whateverMusic's pretty jarringGraphics are ok but there's more use of mixels than there should be and it's overly busyCombat's ass for the most partNot sure I understand why this is so praiseworthy, is it the oracle of seasons style and rat porn? is that it?
>>740660378Doesn't it have faggots and a journalist mode?
>>740660623It has modifiers which I guess you could call a journalist mode, they're basically a cheat menuPronouns have been updated to conform to faggotry so it has that as wellI guess it's people who really really want to own the chuddies on this one, because otherwise it's yet another indie whatever you can find for 5 bucks on a random bundle or lottery
>>740660705But it's not really owning the chuddies is it? Because all the chud games sold 10x the amount lol.
>>740660778Chud games don't exist, chuds cannot create, only destroy.
>>740660827CD is a chud game. No blacks or faggots, and you can beat women. Absolutely humiliated this game sales-wise too.
>it didn't really own the chuddies, r-r-right?>continues his schizo meltdown after the game is already proven a runaway success because his mind literally can't handle the rape it's takingwatching this unfold has almost been as enjoyable as the game itself
Add this to the list of woke games that sold well
>$10million>Runaway successTroons really are delusional.
>>740635213furry female
>the schizo is now pivoting to "it didn't sell as well as AAA games like Crimson Desert so it flopped!!!"yeah this nigger lost hahahahahaha
>runaway success is when you can keep the lights on for another year.
>>740649156holy shit, is this real?
If they are happy with the sales numbers, is there really any room to argue or shitpost?
>>740635156I'm a dev and I'm making a mina-like though
>>740635167You aren't a real dev unless you buy and overpriced office filled with toys.
They already said in an interview they would be disappointed if they don't sell 1 million, so this really isn't the fantastic news it seems
Just found the raft behind a random lock, very odd placement for a permanent upgrade
>>740663775The kears generally have some trinket or upgrade behind them. The subweapon upgrades are kind of odd.
>>740662773Well yeah, woke already won (for the millionth time). This entire thread is just someone moving the goalposts because they can't cope with it.
>>740660179Search for the poopy shit water. If you fought the shit fly miniboss, the areas you found him in have shitwater to fish in.
I'll try it when they go out of business next year.
*cough*
>>740635156That's fine IMO. There's plenty of games that are great and were made by iterating on existing concepts, and there's plenty of genres that have been started by a mediocre game that had a huge legacy but is still not worth playing. When was the last time you met anyone who had unironically played the original Rogue for example?
You want some fries to go with your flop?
i dont care if it sells a trillion, i will not be playing the derivative garbage this studio produces.
>>740652534>You don't think the devs themselves accounted for that when making their estimates on Mina's successGiven they thought moving into expensive offices was a good idea, yes, I believe they’re that retarded
I want another 20 trillion donated to mouse girl propaganda
>everyone saying the reason they’re in dire straits is cause of moving into expensive CA officesAs much as everyone likes to cite that article none of you seem to’ve actually read it, where they did explain exactly what went wrong>get working on two games: shovel knight 3d and mina>all the veterans and oldheads go to work on shovel knight, while they put a guy who’s never directed a game before to head mina>everyone heads to their corner to work on their respective projects>a few years laters>veterans & oldheads decide to check up on how mina’s doing>turns out, putting a guy who’s never directed a game in charge of directing a game isn’t a smart move>end result is a lot of time & money spent with almost nothing to show>ohfug.jpgWhy did the game take so long? Why are they in their poor position? That’s the reason why; development mismanagement. Don’t get me wrong though, splurging on pointless shit and the most expensive offices you can aren’t smart moves and do play into it as they likely would’ve still had enough cash to stifle any worries, but it’s not the primary causeSpending 95% of your income on is a bad idea, but you can if you make the money to support what you purchase. If all of a sudden you got a pay cut and found yourself in the negatives, was it because you spend 95% of all you make? No, it’s because you now started getting paid less subpar, but it’s the best I could come up with. Sure you get what I mean
>>740634505>500.000 number written in corpsesWhat did they mean?
>>740667115nah it's written in coins
>>740634505> and are well on their way to 1 million copies+ sold!Nah, if in two weeks they sold only 500k they are not getting to 1 million, unless they do steep discounts and shill the game in some way
>>740667024No, the thing is that running a business always comes with risk, and good management involves risk management.Most people should already not rely on never getting a pay cut, unless they're a government employee in germany or something. So in your example, if you're in trouble it is very much because you were spending 95% of your income rather than saving. Risk is a natural part of life and you wilfully decided to ignore it and remain entirely unprepared, so the fault is yours.Business income is vastly more volatile than employee income, and game dev business income even more so. Splurging money on useless shit and not being careful about runtime is very much their own fault.The caveat of course is whether the shit is useless. A super expensive office is probably useless. But with soi gamedevs, having a "cool" office can genuinely improve morale and shit, so if you think your company CAN afford it, might as well. So it's probably not entirely black and white in the sense of "never rent an expensive office ever ever else you're a retard".So it was mismanagement in two parts: they thought they could afford the office comfortably, when really they couldn't; and possibly part of the reason why they couldn't is their mismanaging of the game as you described. But nevertheless, the mistaken decision to move into the expensive is still at fault.
>>740659830We got Silksong just last year you know. It's Mina the Hollower tier at the very least. And the year before we had UFO50.
>>740667685If they had a more competent director and didn't spread themselves thin on separate projects, that expensive office would be expensive, but it wouldn't magically make development times longer on its own. For a development studio their size the more important factor is to put out games on time, so they can keep the money flow going.
Mina the Hollower is /v/'s Hogwarts Legacy moment
>>740634837Pretty much this, and they will try to do it again with NES pixels
>>740634505I bought a copy. I helped.
Woke won and I'm all for it.
>>740635156who caresall that matters for the company is that the game sells wellall that matters for us is that the game is goodstop treating videogames like art, it's entertainment, just like most books and movies
>>740635840it's nothing compared to the absolute assrage you'd see if they had donated 20k to the KKK or something, kek
>>740668834One is donating to defense while other to offense. A better example would be donating 20k to something like prostate cancer research, mens mental health support or whitetrash druggies. No one would care.
>>740669115BLM trashed and looted whole neighborhoods, there was nothing defensive about it.
