>>740645501
>detective
Ex SWAT and you'd be surprised.

>>740645501
>the voice acting is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He09JaBVZdE

>>740645587
GOD DAMN

>>740645703
lol what, i just crossed the road when i saw her digging through the trash

>going into a cutscene for a single takedown is a bit lame but its really looks cool when youre surrounded and you just do them back to back
It gets old real quick. It should have been a toggle. They just could not figure out a way to not make it look weird in first person view is my guess.

>>740646007
isnt it just a completely optional mechanic though, surely theres a baton or a shiv somewhere

>>740646078
Sadly not. They introduced a fuckhuge stun gun at some point, not sure whether it is simply available later or requires doorectal's cut.

I know everyone hates QTE, but I honestly think the takedowns would have worked better as little QTE combos. It would be more interesting than pressing one button for an insta-win.

>>740645703
masta jensen

>>740646245
You get the stun gun literally in the first mission instantly if you want when Sarif asks you if you want a close range or long range weapon

>>740646568
Damn, right, that useless thing exists too. I meant PEPS or however that's spelled. That one works but yeah.

I hate the whole piss-filter/Director's Cut situation. I personally have no problem with the original piss filter, but because the game is quite dated now, I wanted to remaster it with graphics mods. Unfortunately all the mods seem to require the Director's Cut version of the game, which removes the piss-filter by popular demand. So I bought that version and I thought it looked wrong. With the filter removed, you notice many places where yellow lights are baked into the textures, and without the filter to finesse the scenery, they are jarring. Some mods try to mitigate the problem, but nothing really solves it. And to be honest the graphics mods are poorly made. You can add ENB and ray tracing, but then you get visual absurdities like shiny cement and reflective carpets. I think you're better off sticking with the unmodded original, unless you really can't stand the piss filter.

tl;dr: I wasted my money on the Director's Cut.

>>740645501
>It feels more like a stealth detective game
>no sound propagation system
>cover based/line of sight detection instead of light level based
>no severe penalties upon detection
>you can see through walls with your trusty Smart Vision aka BATMAN vision. Although made redundant with a radar anyway so you're never at risk of not knowing where the enemy is and never have to rely on hearing and audio information alone
It's nowhere near the caliber of Thief that's for sure and it lags behind Splinter Cell. Perhaps it's closer to Hitman or MGS in regards to stealth.
But it's actually a first person RPG because even in some of those line sight of sight detection based games they can be a little harsher on detection depending on the game.
The biggest mistake Human Revolution ever made was not tailoring the game to your playstyle and it made stealth playthroughs worthless if you are locked into a boss room and cannot accommodate to your approach. That you get an identical scenario to an assault playthrough. I guess that's maybe closer to MGS but it's not my preferred method. It makes the game feel shallow that my lack of being seen accounts for nothing in the story and my approach doesn't factor into the actual bosses. These boss fights were admittedly outsourced garbage anyway. But it really sent a message to me as a stealth player that it lacked focus.

did IiiiiiiIIII... interrupt your thread?

>>740645501
>It feels more like a stealth detective game than a first person rpg
I can see your point, but I thought it had enough mechanics still in to be a satisfying RPG over all.
also I don't remember having an issue with playing it on KB+M, and yeah the takedowns mostly got annoying pretty quickly.

>>740649485
>no sound propagation system
>cover based/line of sight detection instead of light level based

Here we go again. Thief is an antique and its systems are extremely crude. The light system, so lavishly praised by you fanboys, is a source of unintentional comedy. Guards will pass obliviously within inches of Garret if his crystal is dark, even though you as the player can clearly see guards in those same shadows. And the crystal often won't correspond to the 3D environment. Is this dark shadowy spot safe to hide in? Crystal says no. What about this equally dark spot on the other side of the room? Crystal says yes. Why the difference? Just because. What about this well illuminated patch in the middle of the room? Crystal says it's dark and you can hide there. So you can't judge the shadows by sight, you have to rely on the arbitrary and schizophrenic crystal.

>>740647632
Im playing DC and noticing this

>>740646974
Useless? The stun gun is fantastic, one of the best tools in the game.

I had to sell my GPU recently which is why I went on a Deus Ex original marathon
Im actually floored i can play Human Revolution at 1440p medium settings with a tolerable framerate without a GPU aswell

>>740647632
DC also makes the talk with Megan much worse. And the "missing link" is crap and IIRC you actually lose some of the gear you enter it with due to a bug or whatever. And there are other minor but still bad changes.
But hey, at least bosses are a bit more tedious to deal with. Still dumb as a doornail but the areas they're in are larger.

>>740652424
DC also has downgraded textures, because it was made to run on the Wii U.

>>740647632
Never trust remasters.

>>740650543
It's interesting that you made no comments on sound propagation only that you thought something was questionable about my comment. I wonder why. Perhaps it's because you don't actually like stealth? it's the same deal with dishonored of retarded zoomers defending a terrible stealth game that it LACKS sound differentiation on surfaces and movement speed variation. The same is true with Deus Ex just having absolute dogshit lack of mechanics. That it replaces it with a dumbed down crouch walk toggle that no variable speed whatsoever. You're gonna talk about the games AI being dated in comparison to this apparent masterpiece?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d2rRDRkfyQ

>>740650543
>>740653302
It's surprising to me that you think Thief is a comedy but were tone deaf on Human Revolution in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6xL4-BDbjA

>>740650543
>>740653302
>>740653421
Here's another test sample of how apparently more advanced Deus Ex Human Revolution is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gsqHelmQlM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5hwZqPpAoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDfkZZLxWb8

The AI in Mankind Divided is equally shit in it's own way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czAx3BdVe1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEQwPZesb6w

>>740653302
Thief's sound propagation never impressed me. When you lure guards with noises, their responses are chaotic and unpredictable, so it's usually not worth your time. Shoot an arrow against a stone wall and the guard who investigates the sound will wander slowly and aimlessly around the general vicinity, while his footsteps ring out like thunder to remind you that yes, there is a guard walking here. And why is it that Garrett's footsteps alert them, but not the footsteps of other NPCs? How does a guard know the difference between your footsteps and those of his comrades, or those of the house servants? They live in a world of constant banging footsteps that all sound alike, but somehow they just magically know when it's Garrett. It's all bit silly, isn't it? Not to mention the scratchy, compressed quality of the sound effects and voices.

>>740654727
>why is it that Garrett's footsteps alert them, but not the footsteps of other NPCs?
That''s a retarded point to make about playing a video game. You're playing something is directly a challenge to you, the player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvWeK7F3Tno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7v2SKXKSK8

DXHR was a game everyone expected to be hot dogshit due to the gaming environment of the time but were pleasantly surprised that it was actually decent even if it still had flaws. Things are so bad now we could really use something like that again.

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>>740650543
Exactly

>>740653302
>It's interesting that you made no comments on sound propagation
Just like muh light system, it sounds good on paper but in practice Thief's actual gameplay is crap

>>740655217
>when unrealistic things happen in DXHR, it's a serious problem for immersion
>when unrealistic things happen in Thief I hand-wave them because c'mon guise it's just a videogame

It's the hypocrisy that sickens me. The truth is that Thief gets a nostalgia pass from you, but DXHR doesn't because you were older when it released.

>>740645501
It's an rpg, it has more choice and consequence than Disco Elysium, as well as builds and routing. You can get augments in this faster than in DX. I definitely agree though, they weren't talented enough to pull off the feeling of freedom from DX. This feels a lot more rote/scripted, like you can see the mechanics in motion more easily. But they did do a good job designing the levels, making it fun to sneak around and collect items.

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>>740653421
In your own vid the guy gets caught lol. I don't think you wanna start this fight, because Thief's AI and stealth are a thousand times shittier and jankier

>>740647632
>wasted my money
All four games in the series cost <$10 on sale

>>740645703
>Debra Wilson as Letitia (Uncredited)

>>740655876
In the run-up to Human Revolution's release, I wrote a fake quote from the lead developer. It said that players who did all quests and side content would get "a good 5 to 6 hours out of the game," and I posted it here as a daily copypasta thread. There was no link to a source, but many anons believed it and raged, because it was exactly what they had come to expect.

>>740656173
>thousand times
Deus Ex Human Revolution and Mankind Divided are not even a case of being a product of their respective times. Their AI was shit on release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1iID6aoPbw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epBsx5Y4qJI

Amazing summary below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96CJ9LHJeYE

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>>740653302
>it's the same deal with dishonored of retarded zoomers defending a terrible stealth game that it LACKS sound differentiation on surfaces and movement speed variation
LOL. Thief nostalgia boomers always sing vague praises of Thief's systems but no one can give any examples of this ''amazing DEEP gameplay'', meanwhile people are still making Dishonored gameplay vids years after its release and getting hundreds of thousands of views

>>740656583
What am I supposed to see in the first vid? The guy gets caught lol. The second vid just shows the malfunctioning ''zombie'' enemies at the end of the game, that obviously don't operate like regular patrons

Nothing here is anywhere near as bad as Thief's horribly trash AI
See
>>740656052
>>740656173
>>740656586

>>740647632
>>740652424
just put the piss filter back on?

https://silentsblog.com/2020/04/26/dxhr-dc-gold-filter/

isn't it set in 2026

i dont think the auto sunglasses will be a thing untill like 2050 or 60

>>740652601
hes right about peps being the most useless weapon in the game
basically a stun gun but loud

How do people feel about Adam's character design? I think he looks okay, and I kinda like the autoglasses, but a friend of mine refuses to play these games because he thinks Adam is overly stylised and trying way too hard to be cool, with the opposite effect.

>>740657607
>Adam is overly stylised
The game is overly stylized, so it fits
Even many random NPCs are fancy looking

>>740656586
>people are still making Dishonored gameplay vids years after its released
Dishonored is dog shit. Zoomers just infest the internet now to tell about how this mediocre slop was apparently deep. This video practically says what anyone playing this game will experience. No stealth challenge whatsoever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5BAlt0-qv8
Also shit AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lm8_bQrqcg

>>740645501
I really like Human Revolution and replayed it during the winter. It still holds up, but it doesn't feel like a Deus Ex prequel and should have been its own thing.

>>740658158
>. It still holds up,
It didn't hold up on release.

>>740658256
>I don't like thing
Ok.

>>740657986
i remember a decade ago seeing footage of some brazilian playing dishonored and doing the most insane stylish kill streaks and i genuinely felt i never played the same game as he did

>>740658320
How can you ignore terrible AI on this scale and say that the game has no issues? it's toddler tier gameplay. Games from 2008 had better AI.
All the bosses are shitty bullet sponge enemies with no good design carrying them.

>>740658158
>It still holds up
Mostly, yes, but the hacking minigame seems more tiresome now. And it doesn't help that they used the same minigame in Mankind Divided.

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>>740657986
Nah, Dishonored is great and mops the floor with Thief, that's why there's still interest in its gameplay while no gives a fuck about Thief other than nostalgic boomers

>>740658570
But the AI has already been shown to be much better than Thief's crappy AI which you worship

>>740658767
>that's why there's still interest in its gameplay
It's all artificial interest and I'll tell you why. Because your generation emerged into content creation by creating hours and hours of useless filler on youtube to try and make money via presenting essays. It's cheap income revenue for hacks trying to become internet stars. Many videos online for this stuff is artificial bloat.

>>740656934
The game is set in a world were nano augs were implemented in 2050s and they replaced mechanical augs. Since human revolution is at the beginning of of the mechanical era they had to push back the story to 2020s.

>>740658810
Did you even watch a single video. There was an instance of standing in front of an enemy and throwing a box in his face. There was an instance of standing behind a gate and shooting enemies and you're invisible for some reason. What exactly is it doing to best Thief if you can stand right in front of enemies and the AI just randomly gives up?

>>740658974
No, it's actually because Dishonored is a much better game than Thief, and your nostalgia prevents you from being objective

>>740659145
Yes I watched your videos and already responded to them. None of them show anything egregious that isn't just videogame logic, and certainly none of them are as bad as the AI in Thief
>What exactly is it doing to best Thief if you can stand right in front of enemies and the AI just randomly gives up?
But that's literally Thief, see >>740656173

when i played GMDE Augmented last week i was actually shocked when an enemy noticed me slightly sneaking in the shadows and pulled out a flare grenade, lit it, and threw it at my direction
it gives you the perfect amount of time to get out the way but still poses a genuine risk
and im like man, i dont think ive seen that happen in a game ever

>>740652659
>IIRC you actually lose some of the gear you enter it with due to a bug or whatever
Didn't happen to me

Prichard.

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>>740659198
No it's being knocked because Dishonored never did sound propagation and light based. However lets focus on sound propagation If you want to maintain the position of
>erm actually light based stealth is not actually good
A misguided view and one that Arkane held because apparently "realism is more in important" (in their own words despite the game looking like playdoh stylized dogshit) then you have to at least acknowledge that Dishonored dumbed down silence focused gameplay by just giving you crouch walk instead of speed toggled walk. Because your generation never grew up with one game that had proper mechanics that shape these challenges you've always looked at mainstream garbage like Asssasins Creed as your ideal example of gameplay.
What's more is that you ignore that removes all challenge with fucking batman vision garbage.
That is a fundamental disgrace to stealth design.
Ideally you should not know a single one of their positions.

>>740645501
I just remember having to crawl through a lot of vents in office buildings

>>740658974
I'm not convinced by this supposed dichotomy between Thief as a boomer game and Dishonored as a zoomer game. Dishonored came out in 2012, when people who played Thief in 1998 were aged 20-30 and still actively gaming. They played Dishonored; they were a large part of its intended audience. That's why Dishonored is full of references to Thief.

And as for video essays, well, Thief is one of the staples of that genre. Mandalore, Grimbeard, Majuular and all the usual suspects have lengthy videos on Thief. It's used as a lighthouse to guide nerds towards these channels.

>>740659853
Dishonored is a corporate whore product that was shilled aggressively pre and on release and received in all likelihood bought off reviews, perhaps equal to Bioshock Infinite in that regard, or even OG Bioshock for that matter since that game was artificial credentials the game. The comparison is not apt because Levine is a hack outside his time at Looking Glass Studios.
Dishonored was advertised on billboards, buses, television and literally anywhere and anyone that Bethesda could shove their ad money in. It's artificial crap slurped up by zoomers.

>>740659324
What else does GMDE(GMDX?) Augmented add? I remember playing it for my third DX playthrough a decade or so ago and all I remember it doing was add leaning to combat.
I also remember really REALLY liking the gunplay in that, as in it's itched in my memory as the golden standard, but I can't put my finger as to why, it's been so long.

>>740659496
I don't care about ''light propagation'' when all it amounts to is you can stand on the corner of a bright room to become invisible to guards, see >>740656173
You keep namedropping this system when I've already shown the gameplay to be utter crap in practice

>(in their own words despite the game looking like playdoh stylized dogshit
There's not a world where Thief, one of the ugliest games ever made, looks better than Dishonored. This is just your insane nostalgia clouding your views again

the trailer for MD was kino, did not expect to even see a follow up
https://youtu.be/uvSs5b6y-YM

>>740660101
>everything made after the 90's sucks and Thief is le best game ever
I can't take you seriously when you're THIS biased towards the only games you have nostalgia for

>>740660296
>is utter crap practice
Dishonored solution is to remove all stealth. If silence is not an aspect to stealth then the genre ultimately falls apart. You can't get around that and you cannot excuse that seeing through walls means no challenge is even involved.
You've grown up with UI design that just feels natural to your eyes but you don't give a damn about what it does to challenge.

Who would ever design a stealth game and say moving slowly to avoid those moving around you is something we have to change? the moment you start running clearly everyone knows where you are.
How did one generation get so confused about a game concept? the reality was that people with little patience couldn't deal with this idea although all they really actually wanted to play action game but couldn't admit it so they needed another descriptor for themes. So they co-opted the term stealth because they just wanted a story about being a steampunk ninja. They had no intention of ever delivering.

>>740645703
the sequel really fucked up the animations, I'd rather have that level of voice acting for a single character instead of every character's body language being like of an actual crack addict

>>740660404
>If silence is not an aspect to stealth then the genre ultimately falls apart
But sound is part of the stealth? Guards will react to you running around, react to missed crossbow shots, etc.

>you cannot excuse that seeing through walls means no challenge is even involved.
It's an optional power, you don't have to purchase it

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>>740660101
>they fucking... god I'm so mad I almost can't say it out loud... they fucking ADVERTISED it! A videogame, being advertised in broad daylight! Can you imagine?

Whereas Thief, a true gamer's game, would have never have stooped so low as to be advertised anywhere. It was created in total secrecy in an underground bunker by developers who wore balaclavas at all times and referred to each other by their ID numbers, never by name. No one knew who anyone else was. Once the game was complete, it was uploaded anonymously to the darkest corners of the internet, and the bunker and all development assets were unceremoniously doused in petrol and burned. This was all done to ensure the artistic integrity of the production. A small group of elite hackers managed to find the game in its hidden location on the web, and after they had broken through the extremely tight security, they were able to get it out to the wider world, where it slowly developed a cult following. A following that grew in a purely authentic and organic way, untarnished by crass commercialism.

>>740660769
>Guards will react to you running around
By crouching. Instead of basing it on your actual in game speed and accounting for floor surface properties. There is no distinction in floor properties in Dishonored and all sound is uniform even when running over a carpet shouldn't sound as loud as running on metal or marble flooring but in Dishonored it's all the same sound because the design is lazy.
This idea didn't suddenly become primitive Arkane are just a bunch of lazy bastards. Thief is is already advanced on the conceptual level alone because there are two factors that are the deciding factor about how you are allowed to move through a level. Opposed to Dishonored where you just click teleport power onto the ceiling and then you've avoided everything? or even having silhouettes of all the patrols so you don't have to do any patrol memorization?
You've basically destroyed the fundamentals of stealth design in one fell swoop no matter how you look at. Clicking crouch is not enough because that is literally a DUMB idea of being silent. It's not advanced and it's not the concept of movement.

>>740645501
everything after the original sucked
sorry, not sorry

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>>740661067
At least it had something to do with gaming unlike this corporate whore product.

>>740645703
It was a different time

>>740661295
Ok but in practice none of that matters because the AI in Thief is really really dumb, see >>740656586
You've built up this idea of Thief as this super deep game with amazing mechanics when that's just not the case

>>740646007
>not immediately buying the Typhon with your first praxis kit

>>740661596
based, i did that on this playthrough
doing a kill everyone run
dermal maxed, typhoon, what else do i need? i feel like the icarus landing would be a good pick to drop between enemies for the typhoon

>>740661576
You're yet to acknowledge that this was never good. You just put it up on a pedestal for no reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHh7yz1I7Dc

>>740661367
Any new Deus will struggle to escape the shadow of the original, because that game was made under unusual circumstances and it overdelivered in a way we just don't see anymore. At least, not in a niche genre like immersive sims. The game is long, vast, packed with little details, and uncommonly well written. It somehow manages to be both cool and charmingly dorky at the same time, a quality typified by its cheesy-but-good theme music. We'd all like another game like that, but it's a tall order for modern developers who haven't been handed a blank cheque by an industry mogul.

Still, I think the Jensen games are good enough. Invisible War was the nadir of the series, and Human Revolution managed to get things back on track, more or less. Mankind Divided is somewhat underrated here, but it does have its issues and the story is not a compelling one.

>>740646398
i actually agree, peoples main issue with qte is when it replaces gameplay (eg shadow of mordor killing sauron) or when its inserted randomly into cutscenes (re4 actually handled this well). You are in fact adding more engaging gameplay by doing this. I wish your suggestion was something devs did considering how prevalent takedowns are in modern AAA slop

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>>740661067
Let me know about this level of allocation of advertising was associated with Thief. Dishonored is as phony as Levines games critical reception was organic.

Bro is mad because Dishonored made a cash while he thought that imsim devs should be poor and struggling and bankrupt to create masterpieses

>>740662576
Yes it had more advertising than Thief. But so what? How does this have any bearing on our experience when we play Dishonored? If I put up a billboard for Thief, will that make it a fake corpo game?

>>740661576
This is just nonsense. This is a Crowbcat tier critique. For 99% of the game things work correctly.

I remember playing this thru once and getting invested but then I tried again some years later and I got completely bored in 30 minutes or rather my interest never spiked at all. It's just somehow too sterilized and I didn't want to try to explore the world again. Ps3 og version. I know there's one or two newer versions with different boss fights at least.

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>>740662780
>How does this have any bearing on our experience when we play Dishonored?
How does it have any bearing? uh hello? i made this point already that Arkane shoved corporate trends into the game like shitty UI seen in Batman Arkham Asylum that plagued a whole generation of games for one. Awful shit detrimental to video games. Not only bad for stealth games but this was ALSO the precursor to modern yellow paint.

>>740645501
I hated this game, coming from the OG Deus Ex and having many immersive sims completed under my belt, i expected something way better.

The game is just bad, it made me stop gaming for 3 weeks.

>>740656586
I love it when retarded nostalgia fags get DESTROYED like this with FACTS AND LOGIC.

Keep doing this.

>>740664826
>get destroyed by facts in logic
>post youtube links of Dishonored having dog shit AI
>because it's not in webm form the submission is dismissed
Tsk tsk. Why does that anon have an agenda to ignore it rather than just accept that it's bad?

>>740663323
what about the stealth games with infra-red vision and other ways to "see the enemy when you shouldn't?" you didn't complain about those in James Bond games where they had cool toys did you?

>>740664972
You sound like a crying little bitch redditor lol

>>740656173
Holy shit this is so bad lol

>>740656173
>hide in shadows.
looks like we have a master thief who rolled a 00.

>>740661820
The guards in Thief at least hear shit happening around them. You can throw enemies into glass cases and they won't come running in Dishonored. They'll just be visibly confused on their meter in first stage whilst barely alerted.
So yeah Dishonored sound system is absolute garbage and he was offended in his very first comment that i called it a bad stealth game, which it is. But only extended criticism to Thief.

>>740666045
Was supposed to be a reply to you>>740665135

If you said Thiefs AI is dated but Dishonored is an awful game then we could move on but just accept the facts.

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>>740666045
It's better than Thief where stuff like this is normal

>>740666045
>The guards in Thief at least hear shit happening around them
Clearly not lol, see >>740656586

>>740666125
Dishonored is objectively a fantastic game, by all metrics

>>740666370
It's all right

>>740666225
>It's better than
You're excusing the bad AI as if it's something that should be forgiven and that's where you lose the argument on objectivity. You claimed i lacked objectivity but refused to see bad things with Dishonored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtc64Jc1Ks

>>740663323
Dishonored is about power. You can opt out of using those powers (save for one spot where you have to use blink). I love Thief and Dishonored so this shitflinging you fags are doing is pointless to me. They're both awesome.

>>740666225
This is from the mission where Garrett is undercover you fucking dumbass. Play the game before criticizing it.

>>740666225
The moment you have to lie and post fake stuff to prove your pont, you've already lost.

>>740667118
You keep excusing and ignoring every instance of Thief's terrible AI tho

>>740667521
>being undercover means guards shouldn't react to you hitting them in the face
Dishonored already did this concept a thousand times better lol

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>>740645703
this is good voice acting

>>740670320
Your third webm comment insisted that Dishonored was somehow more advanced and a good stealth game when the AI is dumber than a sack of bricks and the stealth in the game is shit. Clearly your zoomer piss filter tinted glasses refuses to see bad things including bad games. I accept your concession since you lacked any objectivity regarding guard AI. If throwing guards into glass cases and them not doing anything about that isn't a good enough case that Dishonored AI is braindead zombie AI because it's a crap game then maybe this will serve as another illustration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTErWMLgD_w

>>740660113
just based on my past two playthroughs recently
rebalanced skill system
perk system (some of them are game changing)
enemy AI behavior, more intelligent, more curious, but as far as patrol pathing goes extremely in line with the OG
rebalanced weapons
an actual SHIT TON of map changes, probably adding 50% more to each map from the OG in some cases but it blends so seamlessly you might not realize its new
far more dialogue, i did a vanilla playthrough to finish off my GMDE experience it hit me they've obviously added a lots of cut dialogue (the veterans in the clinic being a good example)

>>740673071
But the AI is objectively better and so is the stealth in general, I mean Thief is barely a functional game as I've proven many times over

>>740659145
Yeah and you can glitch through the ceiling and beat the game in 1 hours, I don't care

i never played Revision for the original Deus Ex because it seemed like a totally superficial alternation but GMDE Augmented is far, far beyond what any "Remaster" could deliver. It elevates Deus Ex to God Tier First person RPG

bait where someone plays a game more than devoted fans, to make a few unflattering webms of rarities, is actually kinda peak

>>740664710
Yeah, it's kind of sad that Dishonored and Prey (no relation) and Mankind Divided are the closest things we have had to a proper immsim in the past decade.

>>740656173
Thief sucks because you have a sword that does less damage than your blackjack. Why give it to me if I can't fight? I don't know if I'll ever accept that.

https://youtu.be/oUMNDLZ9B0M?t=53
>when the templar lore hits and you realize its an assassin's creed game

>>740670496
Adam has a permanent "something smells bad" face throughout the entirety of MD.

>>740681624
Prey 2017 is incredible for the fact that at a certain point you find yourself having to use all your ammo then the game keeps going for another third and you have no fucking ammo to deal with anything and the stress is immense

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>>740645501
I hated how there was no flamethrower weapon. In the original, i did heavy build flamethrower+rocketlauncher.

>>740683030
the flamethrower is unironically the best stealth weapon in the original

https://youtu.be/Kq5KWLqUewc
This trailer could come out today and everyone would be on their knees begging for forgiveness

>>740679987
Literally all of your responses have just been: nuh uh! i don't like your example! when it shows the AI is clearly braindead in Dishonored and therefore failing at it's job as a stealth game.
You act like there's something redeemable about the game yet it lacks any stealth mechanics whatsoever that aren't basic shit you can find in an shitty Assassins Creed game. Ubisoft shovelware was somehow better than this piece of shit and that's pretty low because those games aren't well designed and their original gameplay was just a vehicle for open world slop above anything else. Their actual challenges were garbage likewise with Dishonored having no challenge and was designed for drooling toddler retards.

i have the two new Deus Ex novels but never read them

>>740673071
>>740684941
The videos you've posted show minor pathfinding bugs (which I've never encountered myself), while the guards are still patrolling and reacting to sound, etc. in fact in most of the videos you've posted the player still gets spotted

Meanwhile I've shown you guards in Thief not reacting to you jumping and running right next to them, not reacting to you literally being in front of their face and touching them, not reacting while hitting someone right in front of them, and so on

>>740656586
>>740656173
>>740656052
If you find anything as bad as this then feel free to reply with proof

>>740682629
The stealth skills didn't feel very useful. There's a whole bunch of damage resist skills that seem pointless cause of how many enemies you have to scan, by that point you're probably at the late game and enemies have been two-shotting you for the last 15 hours.

>>740685746
>still patrolling and reacting to sound
What do you call throwing a guard into a glass case and a nearby guard not running to the source? working behavior or braindead zombie AI? because i call it shit AI and the lack of any meaningful sound systems.

>>740686637
Cherrypicked non issues compared to the problems with Thief's AI