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Previous: >>201605178

>New or returning player?
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1186
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1200

>Last big update
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1187
R9 class info & vids: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/R9/372163/

>Upcoming changes
Wiz/Sword rework: http://tos.nexon.com/lab/dev/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=62
Nak Muay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujkaC3Nhiz0
Goon/Hop/Cata/Fwee + more: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1177
Matador/Musk + more: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1201
New GvG: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1109


>Latest Patch Notes
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=3&n=1

>Current events
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/?c=33&n=1
and ingame 'News' button


TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
Detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links

>Addon Manager
https://github.com/JTosAddon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager/releases

>Database, skill planner and other stuff
DO NOT FOLLOW BUILDS FROM TOSBASE BEFORE ASKING FOR ADVICE HERE
https://tos.neet.tv

>New Card Effects
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HeFXLzODIesKCviYQ8I8HhdtLDODNKJZDUw-d-ohdCI

>Weapon info
New lvl 350 weapons: https://pastebin.com/jeE3rrZS

>Extra Stat Points
https://pastebin.com/7kg3ga5f


>Servers (choose what's the closest to your location for better ping)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA) Fedimian(EU) Silute(SA) Telsiai(SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (ApplyAFineHorse3)
cute (Merigolds and Majiene)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)

>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)

>Telsiai
Comfy (neshoi)

>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)

>Silute
Lewd (Nanaumi)
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>>201743484
Sword changes were translated though you BAKA.
https://pastebin.com/HYNBE82L
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Wizard rework translate: https://pastebin.com/mi20AYJE

Swordie rework translate:
https://pastebin.com/HYNBE82L

join cute I guess
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>>201743839
>join cute I guess
why?
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>>201743765
>>201743839
Gomen~. I only checked Gwenyth's pastebin folder.
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>>201743965
Games are more fun when you play them with friends
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>>201744173
>All peltasta skill damage is increased by 50x your taunt value.
The hell does this mean?
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>>201744473
This game does have a "threat" system like WoW, but it's all hidden so it doesn't make any fucking sense to put it into damage calculations.
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>>201744473
Probably the more monsters you taunt the more damage you will do with pelta spells
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>>201744063
I'm not going to hit you because that's what you want. Not hitting the highlander is the most bully thing one can do. Also ryona is fucking abhorrent
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>>201744173
some of those people aren't cute (guild) though.
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>>201744837
most of them are though.
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>>201744657
Yeah, if it's that than it's super dumb since most people have no idea it exist, much less know its amount.
Maybe they are going to rework it.
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>earthquake will now attack flying monsters
But why
that is so stupid its unimaginable
just get rid of the whole flying system then if you dont like it
but making earthquake affect flying is the dumbest shit you can come up with
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tfw farming solo 340hg with my linker3 feather3 and find this
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>>201745673
>earthquake will now attack flying monsters
It actually always and already does.
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>>201745813
Uhm why did they specifically point that out in the patchnotes then?
>>201745794
And it couldve been two if you had thauma.
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Fencer Shinobi is going to be fucking retarded damage, way stronger than DoppelNobi since it isn't as reliant on attributes. It might even be stronger than Murmnobi depending on how the "no longer benefits from buffs/attributes" works.
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>>201745980
It now does double damage on grounded mobs
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>>201746057
>Earthquake now also applies to flying-type enemies and deals double the damage to Ground-type enemies. Currently, a level 15 Earthquake currently only has a 428% damage factor to Ground-type enemies, and is unable to hit flying-types enemies. Earthquake will now have a 428% Attack Factor vs Flying-type mobs and 956% for Ground-type enemies.

Is what I mean
>currently doesnt affect flying
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>>201743484
>CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Why is this here? They aren't /tosg/. Remove it.
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>>201746185
Shut the fuck up Patsch/Yuki
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>>201743484
n-no bullying cute kepa >3<
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>>201746482
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>>201745994
Since clones won't be affected by buffs, it won't be as great as you're expecting since they won't have Epée Garde + Préparation. Meanwhile, if Doppelnobi has HL2, besides having Crownlinet, you can also boost the buffed Kunai with Crossguard.

I guess we're back to the old debate whether Fencer or Doppel is the best boss killer.

Murmnobi is dead. It was the best Shinobi because they had much more skills for the clones to copy. Now that every class has many skills, it's going to be on Fencer and Doppel.
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>>201746450
>so many people hate you that you can't even keep track of them
"We were never /tosg/ and we never wanted to be part of your shitty general"
- plAssmagiCunt
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>>201744837
You're right, one person in that picture isn't in the cute guild. Others are allowed to join us when they want to of course. Friends make the game more fun!
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>>201746747
What? You can get HL2 as Fencer too, and you also have a slash debuff without needing to get Barb for it.

I wish they would have just gutted Murmnobi without adding more skills. They needed to buff Muay Thai considering it's complete dog shit with no synergy with anything.
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>>201746140
Are you implying IMC knows their game?
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>>201746694
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>>201747832

Get in!
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>>201747215
I'm talking about Crossguard though. Yes, you can boost Double Slash and Crownlinet with Lunge, but you need weapon swap to use Crossguard, which increases pierce damage by 100%. Kunai deals more damage with Bunshin no Jutsu, has a flat crit chance attribute and also has 4 overheats now.
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>>201748097
>clones don't benefit from attributes
>kunai has an attribute to do more damage with clones
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>>201743484

Fly me to the MEME
Let me play among the ANONS
Let me see what LEL is like
On a, DISCORD and TOSG
In other words, HOLD MY HAND
In other words, baby, IMPLY me

Fill my heart with FUN™
And let me SHITPOST for ever more
You are all I long for
All I HEAD PATS and BULLY
In other words, please be true
In other words, I ERP you

Fly me to the MEME
Let me play among the ANONS
Let me see what LEL is like
On a, DISCORD and TOSG
In other words, HOLD MY HAND
In other words, baby, IMPLY me

Fill my heart with FUN™
Let me SHITPOST for ever more
You are all I long for
All I HEAD PATS and BULLY
In other words, please be true
In other words, in other words
I ERP you

Futureproof is OPEN for any FUN™ loving players to have FUN™ with them!
PM and friend list ApplyAFineHorse3 for invites
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>>201747916
delet this
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>>201743484
Ready for EXCITEMENT™? Join CuteNotLewd for best EXCITEMENT™!
Please contact Plasmagica in game for invite
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>>201749741
show bob and vagene and i'll think about it
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Does Sword have a good AoE build? Is it Hoplite+CataLancer when their buffs come in?
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>>201749543
>HOLD MY HAND
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>>201749741

"no"
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>>201752470
Several, best are Dragoon and Doppel ones.
>Hoplite+CataLancer
No, that build aoe is pretty mediocre.
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Join cute
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>>201743839
>>201749543
>>201753458
what's the difference between these two guilds? didn't you have to be a girl™ character for one of them? or was that just shitposting
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>>201753753
There is no difference. When the game first launched, the guilds each had a certain focus (FP did open gvg, cute was casual social, CNL was overflow that slowly moved towards PVE firsts) but those requirements have long evaporated. Any stipulations or prerequisites that may have been mentioned are purely shitposting.
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>>201753753
In any case, joining one of them will make you a friend of the 2 others
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Why this music makes me cry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc7d155sJwU
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>>201754605
I think they used it in one of the first trailers, so it brings back many memories.
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>>201754580
what does that even mean?
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>>201754605

It's one of the best songs in the game. Also it was used in the first trailer they released and it only really played in low level areas, so it reminds you of a better time.
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>>201753458
I would, but I'm not a Paladin or Falconer.
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I love this track. YEA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zpXJcN3pWZs
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>>201754605
>>201755964
Good taste, anons.
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>>201755964
>>201754605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRwv4BRMnDE

This one is my favorite. I haven't been to those maps in forever though, and I keep my music turned off now.
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Is shinobi quest too ez mode? Do you always get bully because you are Kirito? Join open world tbl for maximum fun.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kzwqodBXB-o
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>>201754605
I wish imc didnt nerf every fun builds while enforcing a few boring meta builds for each tree even though some classes were never functional. Classes building is the one thing that I love about this game sad its meaningless without fun repeatable content to play. Also comfiest song right there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_EkWrSnOIk

>no other kevin songs were posted
such bad tastes
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>>201756721
None of the hidden class quests are difficult, they're just annoying and tedious. You would get bulled if the class was bad, but literally every single decent swordsman build is going to include it now because it just got massive buffs on kToS.
>pvp
no thanks
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>>201754605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyTHsl61Tc
>tfw grinding in this map
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>>201756968
>kevin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml4E4x5HOxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnauzUYU_tk
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>>201754906
join cnl or fp
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>>201752820
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>>201757821
>join ded guilds
no
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>>201758094
>playing ded game
duh
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>>201758040
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>trash blue hg stuff
just gem foot at this point, right?
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>>201759847
collect dust
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Is there a class that's fun to play, doesn't require much investment, does damage, and is useful at end game?
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>>201760523
any cleric
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>>201760523
cryo3chrono3enchanter2 before nerfs
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>>201760523
Chrono
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>>201760749
>>201760794
>press buff
>go afk for 50 seconds
he said fun morons
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>>201760846
Pyro chrono linker sage then
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Isnt it still good to have multiple chronos in a party? To pass low cd skills multiple times
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>>201761401
>she hasn't read the patch notes
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>>201760846
Cryo is objectively the most fun and the last two ranks are wildcards.
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>>201761401
Right now, yes, when we get the patch (in 3 years), no.
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>>201761803
I don't really enjoy Cryo. Pike and Bolt do less damage than basic attacks. Snow Rolling sucks. The only skills I liked were Ice Blast and Pillar, but you can't even use Ice Blast without Pillar because it breaks Pike and Bolt's freeze.
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>>201761825
But can't you just get more zornhau per bunshin? Or am i missing the point of pass? Sorry, a little new but confused
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>>201762915
Hey retard, read the Wizard part of the patch notes. You can't overlap passes anymore.
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>>201762270
you can use with ice wall too to cycle it better when pillar is off

pike, even at lv 1 is a okay filler

just go sage 2 and invest on your staff, ultimate dimension is ridiculous
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>>201763064
Ok, i'm almost convinced now i'd rather have 2 chronos than 1, you're gonna have to detail me the mechanics to convince me, because i'm such a nibber
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>>201763426
>50 second cooldown
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>>201763576
Fuck off BR slime.
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>>201763587
you know that you don't need to blow everything at the same time, right?

cycle stuff
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>>201763576
>reading comprehension
https://pastebin.com/mi20AYJE
there's your spoonfeed you fucking monkey
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>>201756968
>Nerf every fun builds

When has this even happened? I legitimately can't think of any "fun" builds that were actually nerfed out of existence and didn't just fall out of flavor because they were extremely impractical.
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>>201764207
Wugushi
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>>201763576
when you get pass'd, the game will give you a debuff so you can't get another pass again on skills that you didn't used after the first pass so you need to burn your cooldowns before getting the second pass, which means that a skill with 40 seconds cooldown will get the benefits of the first pass (40 ->-25 ->15 seconds) but if another chrono comes and pass you again, said skill ain't going to get pass'd, so you would need to wait that 15 seconds, cast it again and only then the second chrono pass would work. this means that you can't negate a super long cooldown powerful skill by stacking chrono anymore
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>>201764057
Can't i just use my less than 25s cd skills again before passing them? Or are the main worth passing skills 50s cd plus?
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>>201748412
The attribute affects critical rate, the damage increase is built-in to the skill.
You are pretty gay though.
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>>201764528
Ok that makes sense, but for shinobi builds, aren't the copyable skills all around 20-30s cd?
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>>201764764
yeah, it's still decent, but you can't have 100% uptime clones shooting stuff anymore, and let's say, a thauma is now more interesting to have than the second chrono
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>>201764862
Oh yeah, ok i guess non full bunshin uptime can make a big difference
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>>201764862
Wait bunshin downtime under pass is 4 seconds though?
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Any master chrono here? Please, return us to March 2016, ty.
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>>201764862
Or, divine might affects pass or no?
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>STILL no player housing that you can decorate and ERP in all day
WHAT THE FUCK KIM
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>>201743484
does anyone know anything about the spawn time for these stone plates for the zealot advancement or do I just have to fucking sit around for hours and wait?
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>>201766213
hahahahahaha look at this baka that didn't do the instant advancements. just wait for the unlock vouchers to get added to the TP lootboxes
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>>201766439
>instant advancements
what?
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>>201766630
during the reset event you could just instantly advance into zealot/shadowmancer/bm/matador
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>>201754605
Remember the first time you did dungeons in ToS and that dance club music started playing?
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>>201768764
I remember dying to a bunch of exploding Desmodus right at the beginning of the dungeon.
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>>201768764
Remember how pissed off everyone in /tosg/ was that they added dungeons?
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>>201758238
>sneak in a doom post
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>>201768764
Yeah, grinding was so fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQo4UDxHQbY
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>>201754605
because it reminds us, and (You), of the times when we were hopeful for the future and all the maps were unexplored and you felt like the game was a grand adventure with tons of unique possibilities in front of you with your friend list growing with each new map you ventured in. you couldn't wait to unlock the next circle even if it took you hours or days, because it was fun progressing and trying to find fun weapons and rare items in the world. you didn't know the game was going to become a Diablo-lite two years later, with an item enhancement system that breaks it and a cash shop full of items that straight up gave players instant access to riches. tokens were 100~200k in the auction and the only qualm you had with the cash shop was that hat enchants were locked behind it. even with server disconnections, lag issues and overpopulation you still managed to have fun finding new maps.

then... demon prison...
then... truffles...
then... evac...
then... class elitism...
then... world boss mafia...
then... saalus farming...
then... necrofarmers...
then... transcendence...
then... 280 grind...
then... ET elitism...
then... R8 hard mode...
then... practonium...
then... solmiki elitism...
then... no updates for 5 months...
then... kek-newal...
then... HG focus...
then... anvil revamp...
then... card revamp...
then... who cares...
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>>201764207
pyro kino/link, rune of ice (how is shinobi not reduced to 2~3 clones yet?), sadhu, scout3, cartar. Does impractical mean having no scaling and only leaving scratches to 400k hp trash ?
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>>201770441
clones were nerfed heavily and they will clone more skills making dead builds like doppel and fencers viable without the 1 billion silver investment
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>>201770441
I miss when Joint Penalty used to put debuffs on every monsters that was linked. For example, if you were Wugushi, Needle Blow would be put on every JP'd monster. If you used Wugong Gu, it would multiply the Wugong Gu by however many monsters there were, meaning that you could have 15 stacks of Wugong Gu on a single target.
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>>201770287
don't forget the necro bee farm
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>>201771164
>nerfed heavily
>still able to deal 600% damage
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tos pre-renewal private server when
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>>201771576
People have to be interested in a game for it to get private servers, or the game's developer has to leak the source code so that their dead shit game can be played for free by millions of retarded monkeys (RO).
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>>201771576
no
tos pre-R8 private server when
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>>201771576
Yes, please. I want to feel first days again. It was fun to grind journal ranks.
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>>201770287
Renewal and card revamp were good.
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>>201771546
5 clones is 500% of the base % of a skill
they receive no extra bonuses from damage attributes or anything else, including changing a skill into strike, aoe bonuses, shock bonus (crown+moulinet cut in half), etc.
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>>201770287
see >>201772285
the only problem with renewal is that mobs weren't adjusted enough, if at all. don't remember if they even changed them or not.
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>>201771768
Fuck off Fletchercuck.
>>201772384
divine maito
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>>201772384
So what? There's nothing else in Sword tree that adds as much damage as Shinobi does. This isn't anything close to an attempt at balacing Shinobi, it only made it mandatory for every build that can pick Shinobi.
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clones still retarded
clones should use autoatk and shinobi skills only
and then add more interesting skills for shinobi ffs
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>>201772529
so? lethargy in the same patch will give all mages free 20% damage and magic shield will turn giant SP pools into health, making mages the tankiest class in the game. a hidden class like shinobi finally makes sense.
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>>201772723
Why are you bringing Wizards into this, and not only that, but something that EVERY Wizard will get and has no effect on how you build your character. A more apt comparison would be the old Wizard C3 Quickcast +50% damage attribute. That was only 50% and still EVERY DAMAGE WIZARD WAS FORCED INTO IT.
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>>201773084
my point is wizards get it for free
shinobi is an entire class circle
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>>201772723
lethargy buff (and strike debuff removal) + circling:Expand removal means magic and physical are, once again, pretty close...
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>>201772723
>lethargy in the same patch will give all mages free 20% damage
On ground targets, since it can't hit flying. Bosses too, I guess. Hopefully, it still makes EQ hit double so it can do 4x damage + 20% more damage + 50% if you have linker.
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>>201773174
I don't get your complaint. You think it's okay for everyone to be forced into the same class because Wizards are getting buffed?
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>>201773262
wasn't EQ also made insane?
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>>201773492
They made it do double damage to ground targets, but it doesn't really do that much damage anyway.
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So guys, BR soyboy here, am i multiboxing chronos for my doppelslut or what
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>>201773780
it's not funny anymore, kys
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>>201773780
I don't give a fuck what you do as long as you keep your stupid monkey shit on Silute.
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>>201773780
ask the forum brainlet
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>>201773780
fuck off to forums/reddit
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>>201773587
428% base basically at level 15 if you go C3
856% on ground, and flying w/ lethargy
1712% on ground w/ lethargy

lethargy gives 20% bonus in new patch,
with linker the bonus is 70% in output damage
it's AoE and will get overheats too
and you can disable knockback

so best case scenario is
1712% * 1.7 = 2910.4% on ground mobs
if linked it obviously spreads nicely to all linked and is multiplied

electric monsters are also weak to earth
so, basically not a weak spell at all after the patch
I don't know if it's good enough to burst swelled mobs
maybe
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>>201774145
Didn't they remove the Lethargy attribute to replace it with the 20% damage increase one?
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>>201774251
that's what I'm theorizing with, assuming the 2x hits with quake isn't removed (hidden effect)
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>>201774337
Still doesn't seem worth going Wiz3 AND Linker, especially since Wiz3 is so bad now. Is there any class that needs quickcast now that RC skills were lowered to 2 seconds, snow rolling is now 1s at all levels, even meteor is 3 seconds no matter what now.
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>>201774251
Lethargy's effect on earthquake is not an attribute, and what they removed was the attribute to make lethargy's base effects more effective. Also moved the strike attribute to wizard 3. There's also this
>a new attribute has been added in for Circle 2 Wizards called [Lethargy: Magic Specialty] , This attribute increases the amount of damage dealt with magic attacks based upon the attribute level.
The 20% is a basic effect, and might actually replace the EQ 2x hits if IMC remembers that exists.

Incidentally
>The existing [Lethargy: Additional Damage] has also been changed and re-named [Lethargy: Strike Specialty], The newly renamed attribute will also be moved from Circle 2, to Circle 3 Wizard as its requirement.
That was always a circle 1 attribute. IMC needs to play their own game.

>>201774145
>I don't know if it's good enough to burst swelled mobs
You didn't factor in damage attributes yet.
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>>201774770
electrocute and hail suck without it
demonclaw kinda lame without too

3seconds meteor is also shitty
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>>201771576
what happened to the youtube anon who was making a private server?
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>>201775069
was all fake and attention whoring
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>>201774935
I never got this "it's not instant so it's unplayable" idea. Are these the same people who want this to be RO? Did they all play on servers where you could easily lower your cast time to instant? a 4 or 5 second cast tie isn't even a long time. It's shorter than enemies get up from being knocked down by earthquake.
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do pardoners make decent silver
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>>201774935
What's Demon Claw? The Scratch thing? It doesn't have a cast time according to the skill calculator, it just summons a magic circle that does it after a set time or something.
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>>201775148
>a 4 or 5 second cast tie isn't even a long time
no, that is shit
i have 2.5 seconds Meteor now and its terrible if i dont cast QC
does not even do that good dmg
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>>201774145
>>201774884
assume low as shit 6000 matk with entry level gear to theorycraft w/
that's 174,624 earth damage with one cast of EQ
(+50% to lightning mobs truffles in Nazarene will get hit for 261,936)
they have 400,000 health, swelled will have 800,000
yup, easily can burst them with this, just link at least 4 of them
for other mobs you need at least 6 to 8 linked
just to burst with EQ of course
I might be wrong but it doesn't seem bad especially with damage % attributes coming in
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>>201775228
Fuck no they don't, none of the shops do.
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>>201775243
Yes and it has a cast time
>it just summons a magic circle that does it after a set time or something.
very wrong
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>>201775384
kim, pls
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>>201775301
EQ also has 3 overheats and won't knockback anymore if you don't want it too.
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>>201775285
new meteor will hit 3x times in the future with fixed cast
frost cloud will turn into earth element (linker bonus)
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>>201775285
I just don't get why people like you even play. It's normal for wizards to have cast times. The only ones that were dumb were original rune caster cast times.
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>>201775285
Upgrade your weapon.
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>>201775624
we'll see soonish how it is.
dont believe everything IMC writes. you cant be that new
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>>201775780
3 seconds cast for a mediocre dmg aoe is just shit
>>201775796
dont need to. my other skils are way better than that shit
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>>201775615
didn't they also make linkers physical link now give bonus % damage to everyone?
also a new linker skill to deal damage so even linker C3 has a damage skill
a support wiz3>link3>thaum3 could be a new farmer
if EQ turns out to be as good as advertised
too bad about offhand nerf to swell right arm
but it just means staff is the way to go
but if your goal isn't full greed then the wiz3>link2>tham2>shad2 is viable
I dont know anything about shadowmancer
do they have long cast times at all?
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>>201776031
>I dont know anything about shadowmancer
>do they have long cast times at all?
all instant hit skills
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>>201775941
2400% damage is mediocre? Maybe if you're using it on a single target and comparing it to R8+ skills.
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>>201776240
even in stuff like CM it is barley worth casting
ofc i compare it to skills i have now. i play now, not 2 years ago.
its one of the worst skills EleLock has currently
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>>201775803
this is how I imagine the new meteor being and what their 3 hits are

>>201776169
quick cast seems basically worthless then
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QC should just make casting animation faster
dex should also affect casting speed desu famalam

>muh RO

even on RO wizard were high on atk speed via buffs, potions and songs, even distributing some minor agility into it
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>>201776521
well yes, no shadowmancer (should have) has wiz3 now.

>i imagine
prepare for disappointment. IMC loves to raise hope and they fuck us over
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>>201776031
>didn't they also make linkers physical link now give bonus % damage to everyone?
Iunno. I think they made hangman's knot give additional damage though, but that was another update ago so I don't remember the details.

>>201776240
Meteor actually isn't that strong without the pyro attribute, since it makes it so if you kill some of the enemies in a group, they make the others takes basically multiple meteors worth of damage.

Casting it on flame ground with that attribute after this rework will be insane though.

>>201776521
Energy bolt type attacks no longer have cast times either. There's still flesh cannon though.

>>201776521
>3hits
What's this 3 hits meme? Its not in patch notes.
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>>201776719
I can't be disappointed since I don't play anymore
I just like to theorycraft
the class planner is my favorite part of this game

>>201776671
10% faster animation per skill level would be nice
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Where are you guys seeing that Meteor hits 3 times?

Meteor
[Circle 3]
- Meteor has been changed to a circle 3 skill.
- Since it has been moved to C3, the radius has been improved vastly, the damage factor has been increased and the casting time has been changed from increasing up to 5 seconds dependant on skill level to becoming fixed at 3 seconds, cooldown time has also been reduced to 40 seconds. (From 40)
- Meteor: Evasion has been removed, and a new attribute [Meteor: Flame Ground] will be added, this attribute amplifies the amount of damage Meteor does when it is targeted to cast within a [Flame Ground] magic circle
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>>201777063
>I just like to theorycraft
>the class planner is my favorite part of this game
If you did play.. you should know that some tooltips are wrong or unclear. like >>201775243
>>201775429

and >>201776996
>What's this 3 hits meme? Its not in patch notes.
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>>201776996
>Meteor actually isn't that strong without the Pyro attribute
Ohh, I've only played PyroEle so it has always been amazing damage for me.
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>>201777312
Oh okay, so you dont know real damage.
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>>201777414
xd
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>>201777205
well I only theorize with circles I'm familiar with
and with new info no one is familiar with
that's why I didn't really say anything about shadowmancers

>>201777167
yeah ignore me I misread something entirely
it's something to do with the new flameground attribute
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>>201777167
they should just change this shit so meteor would autocast your current flame ground after the explosion
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>>201777613
Nah dude, its true. Not just shitting on you.
There are a few much stronger builds. If you rank reset your char into them, same gear, same dmg% attri, you can be a lot stronger. But all you know is a weak underwhelming build. You literally do not know good damage. That is a fact.
But ok, keep that build if you want.
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>>201777731
This. What's even the point of flame ground spawning from under you now too? You'd have to cast it to hit the enemies around you and then move out of the way so you can even cast meteor or cast it on yourself.
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>>201777819
his build will be better in the new patch though
pyro will be made much better
and he can synergize with his ele
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>>201777890
it would be nice to have triple flame grounds (meteor, fg + fg scroll)
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>>201777819
I just find Warlock to be boring, you're acting like I play PryoEle as my main or something.
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>>201777819
Pyro ele was stronger in beta, in agny time, and after quick cast nerf. And every other time too, since Ele was just a Frost Cloud bot until recent and all their other skills were shit, QC or not.
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>>201777964
Maybe. we do not know yet how these changes will be ingame
dont trust imc

>>201778090
Sure, play what you want. i did try pyroele and that was boring to me. not only because it is weaker
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>>201778119
PyroLink was top in beta (there was not even WL) and with Agny. Besides that it was Ele3 times.
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since we are at wizards, what about the new dark theurge? it will be much stronger at c1, right? I'm relly starting to like warlock c1 again
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>>201778578
>Damage has been increased by about 4.5 times, The number of attacks has been reduced to about 5 times. (From 15 times)
>The number of attacks has been reduced to about 5 times. (From 15 times)
Sounds like shit. But have to wait for ktest to see how the damage actually is. Not enough info yet.
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>>201777964
>and he can synergize with his ele
They didn't nerf stone curse's cast time, did they?
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>new kino skill can turn any mob into a ground type

Heavy Gravity:
>*(NEW!)[Circle 2]
>- Heavy Gravity is a new skill that uses the force of gravity to inflict Psychokinetic damage to enemies, this skill forces targets to become 'Ground-type' enemies for the duration of the skills effects. This skill also deals 50% additional damage to mutant enemies. When Heavy Gravity is cast, any nearby existing [Raise] magic circles will be flattened and removed.
>- In addition, some attributes have been added for this skill!
>[Heavy Gravity: Movement Speed Reduction] - Circle 2
>[Heavy Gravity: Duration] - Circle 3

wish they would tell the damage %, though the gif made it look weak
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>>201778578
They decreased they amount of hits from 15 to 5, and they increased the damage coefficient by 4.5. It's not really much of a buff.
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>>201778790
>Pyro1
Flame Ground
>Kino2
Heavy Gravity
>Ele2
Storm Dust
>Cryo3
Frost Cloud

Collect them all!
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even bad tos fanart i love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7wG1FnmRh0
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>>201778790
I'm more interested in the new Cryomancer damage percentages. Wiz2Cryo3RCWarlock3 might be amazing.
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>>201779558
That looks better than average
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>>201779728

ya its not really even bad, just the artstyles like 90s
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>>201778704
>>201778819

current LV 1 DT is 104%, 15 hits at c1 = 1560% assuming all hits connects into one target

new one will only do 5 hits, but 4,5x stronger so if I'm not wrong: 468% * 5 = 2340% but will lose flat stuff like blessing. It's going to be almost as strong as pre renewal DT at c1 (20 hits)
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>>201779041
Problem is gathering the mobs then.
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>gems that go in offhand are all physical damage based
hello? IMC? wizards and clerics use shields too
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>>201765893
yeah there is, the roof on orsha or guild tower
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>>201780190
>use shields
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can these updates be here already? I want a reason to login.
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Peltasta actually making a return for mobbing is interesting.
Plus Shinobi cloning 2 new abilities in Pelt.
It's not bad, but it's not great.
I was even thinking a Pelt3>Rod3>Shin>Murm would be interesting.
2 strike debuffs and armor break.
Shooting Star + Butterfly spam
Target Smash will be cloned for big clone AoE spamming.
Langort is pretty terrible but it's cloned.
I mean my Pelt3>Squire3>Murm can now pick Shinobi too.

Tree of Narutoswords.
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>>201779981
DT isn't even that bad right now with
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/212016
https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/212018
Scaling per level isn't that great so it's still a 1 point skill.
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>>201780561
>update comes
>1 day after it
>can these next updates be here already? I want a reason to login.
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>>201780561
wait 3 months
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>>201780763
Yeah, can IMC actually make this shit game not shit?
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>>201780846
But anon, you are never happy with anything and want new whatever each day.
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>>201780190
use shield/staff, silly wizard
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>>201780917
Wrong. I want something that is not meaningless.
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>>201780763
People keep eating the class change shit up so they'll keep doing it, what would need to happen to fix the game is to do a mob overhaul.
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>>201780986
Just keep doing Saalus and ET!
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How would you fix mobs /tosg/?
>make ranged mobs not have auto homing attacks that stagger
>have mobs use some skills, not just buffs
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>>201780986
Even if they would "fix the game".. you and many other would probably cry here about whatever. Just like now and in the past.
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>>201781290
Give them birst skills again ala Spiral arrow
Especially melee mobs
They already hit like wet noodles but are also easily kiteable

Anyone remember the fucking Flaks in the hell dungeon at the beginning of r8
They would just rape your ass if they got to spin on you
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Imagine if around the corner IMC just removed Transcendence from the game.
But made tons of new Orange recipes require the blessed gems to craft.
This would mean all gear became tradeable and anvils are the only thing that mattered.
Game would actually be hard again.
And would make sense and be fun.
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>>201781290
>1. undo most the nerfs/changes IMC did because they did listen to players
>2. stop listen to players

not only about mobs
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>>201781316
What makes you think so?
Is it because you believe it's never IMC's fault and always the player's fault?
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>>201781521
No.
But many people here only exist to cry like babbys and are never "happy" or "satisfied".
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>>201781473
>anvil world

go away satan
I will gladly grind 2000 pieces of shards instead of facing anvil nightmare again and again
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>>201781473
>RMTers buying fuck lot of Diamond anvil and make +31 rule
no thanks
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>>201781473
>tfw this will never happen because anyone with a trans weapon would complain
i'd be fine with this if we got full blessed refunds.
that said tho
>anvils only thing that matters
fuck no. at the very least, if trans is being replaced then revamp the entire system to be similar to the trans success rate so we don't have to deal with RNG if we farm
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>>201781473
I agree with that
but also this

they need to cap enhace at +16 and remove diamond anvils
>>201781680
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>>201781676
And yes there's always people who stubbornly believe that complaints are never justified and that IMC is a perfect company making perfect games.

Just like IMC employees, you should play more video games and see how things are done by competent developers.
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>>201781884
That could be 'good'
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>>201781473
What if, like, there was player housing district in every town and you could decorate it with furniture that dropped from monsters
What if players could sleep on beds together
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>>201782225
I dunno what if that.. ask FF14 gen? Heard they are even worse then tree of shit gen
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>>201781680
Anvil hell is better for server economy by being a silver sink.
Plus it means you have reason to obtain 10~15 of a weapon and anvil all of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsWkgwGCI9c
It's not even that expensive.
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>>201781473
>Remove the only progression mechanic that isn't broken
You must be either an ironic memeer or a genuine retard if you think that anviling isn't the most cancerous system ever created.
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>>201782446
>that isn't broken
is this guy being ironic or just stupid?
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>>201782296
It works pretty well for them actually considering how many people shit money into Yoshida's pockets for absolutely nothing but player housing ERP endgame in between patches.
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>>201773994
fun fact, day by day has more english speakers in silute, even americans can't deal with americucks
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@201782559
No You for you, autismo.
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>>201782560
they also advertise there game. have more then 1-2 developers and these 1-2 are not as retarded as ours. and they ride/milk the franchise/fanbase. and other reasons.
not only erp and housing. these would do like nothing for TOS.
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>>201782070
What's a competent developer?
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>>201783587
Hello Games
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>>201783587
At this point, any developer that isn't IMC
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>Challenge Mode
>Can't see shit
>Can't click shit because mouse picking is fucked up
>Can't hold Z because autoattacking stops when your target dies even if you keep pressing Z
Very nice. Very comfy.
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Why do I have to log into the Korean website twice every time? I'm redownloading kTEST so I can play with all the new changes while you loosers farm Saalus for another 34 years.
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>>201787550
once works for me. you looser
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>>201773982
>>201773994
>>201774025
>>201774092

so fucking stupid
so fucking gay
so fucking annoying

i like tosg but f4g-chan just shut the fuck up.
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>>201788184
depends on events and what you got/know
few days or few hours
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>>201788184
around 2-3 days if you're lazy
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>>201787927
just b urself
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I hate this game
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>>201791792
Back to the farm, slootbag.
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>>201791792
Just buy a level 10 gem abrasive from Kim!
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is there any use for talt other than for guilds and I guess vendoring?
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>>201793109
make an alt account
level a sword with exp event
make him into a templar C1
make a guild
use talt to level it up
max farm
there
you now have a house and a farm and your main character can remain in his shit guild
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>>201793109
You can sell it for more on the market. There's no other use rather than feeding it to your guild master's dirty sexhole.
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>>201793330
I don't have a guild master to provide my love to so I guess I'll sell it on the market.
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>>201794741
Join cute. We're low level because no one will contribute talt.
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So how much talt has everyone amassed due to being /kirito/?
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>>201795898
I have 3k talt in my inventory
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>>201795898
0, I sold mine long ago on the market
then I quit the game
guilds don't really deserve your talt
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>>201795898
>tfw cleaned the inventory on my goon and use nothing but talt to trigger the dragonfall attribute
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>>201795898
I have like 5k
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this general is so dead and I couldn't be happier
you guys got exactly what you wanted
you wanted everyone to "fuck off"
finally it's here, everyone has
game is fucking dead
general barely alive
the unfunny thing is you deserve far worse
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>>201796732
fuck off we are full
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>last few posts are game-related discussions instead of two retards shouting "retard" at each other
>"dead general"
Uhmmm
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>>201796603
I cant. My got reset when i left the guild for a few hours to get another free RankReset sometime ago.
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>>201796603

I wish I had a guild I wanted to contribute to. I have like 4k in my storage but the one I'm in is faggy cliques, retards, and literal BRs.
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>>201795898
About 3.2k now. I'm in a guild. She has to work to get them..
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>get primus drop
>its on the monster that resisted swell
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>>201799698
>pay $50
>get primus drop
>can't even sell it
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am I the only one that really likes gear that looks normal over all the flashy stuff? I haven't changed my shield even though I'm 350 because they all look stupid. To me it just looks more aesthetically pleasing and doesn't seem out of place.

Someone mentioned you use to be able to put skins onto your weapons, I think I'd probably just end up re-skinning my weapons to something that doesn't look silly as well though the 350 weapons don't look that bad.
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>>201801728
>Masinios 2h Mace
Gonna puke matie.
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120 dungeon feels like shit EXP. Should I just grind in mage tower instead? It has a good spawn rate and decent EXP modifier.

Is there a collection of maps with good spawn rates and EXP modifiers?
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>268 replies
>37 posters

lol, ded gaem, retards.
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>>201802352
literally N O T T R U E
its 38
retard
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>>201802352
spittin' venom like a wugushi, my man
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>>201802641
fugg off potshitter
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>>201802704
No need to be a rude dude.
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>>201802641
>>201803064
cmon dude, yes we know, game and thread is dead, but no need to post artwork from another game. srsly. stop shilling whatever game that is from.
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>>201803218
It's from Tree of ToS of Savior. It's the Wugushi hidden class! It stays hidden for only true potshitters.
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>>201803289
>Tree of ToS of Savior
is that some chinese mobile Tree of Savior rip off?
fuck off with your unrelated dumb art.
what a stupid class name. chinese cant even properly copy&paste shit nowadays
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>>201803606
>chinese mobile Tree of Savior rip off
Whatever happened to that one?
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>>201803749
probably the same as WOLFKNIGHTS*TM
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>>201803843
I sort of hope that comes out, since it would inevitably be filled with silly anime shit.
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>>201804039
Why doesn't Japan make MMOs anyway? Korea shits out billions of them per year, but the actual country that's known for good games only has a couple of MMOs.
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>>201802641
>>201802704
>>201803064
throw pots everyday 420 toss it fag
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>>201805208
No one has drawn my request of a Wugushi shitting into a pot and then throwing it at a Miko and Shinobi.
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>>201805040
because all of the jmmo won't let them out of japan itself other than square enix and mobile shit
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What's Wugushi based on? I can't google for shit
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>>201805578
vietnam. shit on the sharp sticks and make pits for people to fall into
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>>201805578
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu_(poison)
I could only find this
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>>201805578
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu_(poison)

>>201805398
Why though? Is it because their netcode is as shitty as the Koreans and they don't want foreigners to lose faith in their company or something?
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>>201805718
>>201805670
>The Hanyu Da Zidian dictionary defines 9 gu 蠱 meanings, plus the rare reading ye 蠱 "bewitchingly pretty; seductive; coquettish"

WUGUSHI IS CUTE! CUTE!!
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>>201805810
OH SHIIIIIIIIIT
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>>201805810
>seductive; coquettish
>>201805832
S L U T S
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>>201806094
comfy
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>>201805040
>Why doesn't Japan make MMOs anyway? Korea shits out billions of them per year
Because western people have a tendency to think every Asian MMORPG is Korean, when a lot are Chinese and a few Japanese.

>>201805398
This to an extent but there have been some like Emil Chronicle Online, Cosmic Break, Shin Megami Tensei: Imagine, and Wizardry Online. They have a tendency to not be too popular. Japan also lets Korea make MMOs based on Japanese things too, just like they outsource anime to Korea.
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>>201806268
I wish pso2 got a proper western release. That shit looked comfy
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>>201806387
I played PsoBB when it came out in the west and it was shit. I can't imagine PSO2 being any better. What's so good about the PSO series anyway?
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>>201802352
>doomposting this late
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>>201806687
dumb sleepposter, get some coffee, one of them was just wugu bullying
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>>201806582
I had a lot of fun with the PSO combat system, but I couldn't read Japanese back when I played it so I have no clue if the story was any good. People were pretty nice to me and spoke English if they knew it, surprisingly enough.
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>jp for shops
wait, how? I can't type it in ever it just comes out as ・・・
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>>201806582
Imagine being so new that PSOBB was your introduction to Phantasy Star. Wow.
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>>201808718
Imagine being so elderly that you played the original non-mmo games. Wow.
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>>201810658
>108
I'd buy it for even 20m
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What is the cookie cutter pyro 3 skill allocation these days?
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>>201812808

I've never seen an item with that much before...guess I won the lottery. How does looting chance work?
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>>201813483
Makes you drop more global drops.
How no one knows.
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>>201813215
15/15 remake
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just noticed that tenet garden and demon prison doesnt drop golden anvil, what's a good spot to farm them now ? dont have summoners to afk though.
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>>201814180
They only drops in hunting grounds.
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ez money
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Returning player here. Was thinking of how to keep building my character, when i noticed a Muay Thai hidden class has been showcased. I need it. Anyone has any idea when it'll be out?
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>>201816710
Probably 4 months before it's here. I don't think it's even on KR main servers yet.
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>>201816989
Boy that sucks! Thanks for sharing.

Guess I'll try other classes first.
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Is Zaibas of any use in monk build? and is Zalciai not a shit alternative?
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>>201819187
Good if you pick Zealot.
No, scales like shit.
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should i bother reporting bots? there's an afk sorc bot with a kinda popular guild.
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>>201819187
>Is Zaibas of any use in monk build?
You get to zap up to 7 targets 19 times, for every circle, for 100% of your matk at about 40 enhance and you can't scroll that one.

>and is Zalciai not a shit alternative?
Just get it to level 3 for the attribute and buy high level scrolls, same for daino and aukuras.

jesus fuck this thread is so basic
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>>201820978
It's not like it takes any effort to report when you see them.
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>>201821245
>Zaibas
>7 Targets 19 times
?

>Just get it to level 3 for the attribute and buy high level scrolls, same for daino and aukuras
Do you even play a Krivis3? You get enough spare skill points to put in whatever you want since you can easily max Zaibas, Stigma and Melstis.
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>>201821361
The report button ingame doesn't do anything apparently. To actually get someone banned, you have to post it on forums and cry a lot, but more often than not, staff will just post a "reviewing case lolxd" instead of banning them
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my char slots are running empty
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I can't even get +11 with 10 golden anvil and someone shout this just kill me already.
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>>201824368
Anvil enhancement is such a retarded mechanic.
Yet people defend it.
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>>201824368
>+16 1 purple line pistol
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>201824505
It's much better than Hollgrehenn.
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>>201825484
No body currs about RO. As if RO was some kind of example of good game design.
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>>201825484
No idea what the fuck is that.
Still, it being better than some more retarded shit doesn't make it good, it's like saying aving aids is better than having ebola.
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>>201825590
>the game he's playing is dubbed as the spiritual successor of RO
Whatever you say buddy boy.

>>201825593
>I want the best items in the game
>I don't want it to be hard to achieve
What's the matter little baby? Is this your first Korean MMO?
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>>201825824
>The game I'm barely playing is the spiritual successor of another shit game made by the same shit company

>What's the matter? Is this your first time playing a dead korean shit game?

Dude.....
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>>201825916
>I don't care
>But actually I do
Dude... xd
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>>201825824
It's not "hard" it's completely RNG bullshit.
Some retard could get to +30 with normal anvils on his first weapon, another one could never get pass +10 with diamonds on 10 different weapons.
RNG dictating how strong you can get is a completely retarded design.
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>>201823667
You only need up to 8 costume collectors
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>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/376617
LOL
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>>201825984
What's another way to create items that only a certain few can have and others cannot?
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>>201825824
I want golden anvils back in global drop everywhere, bots cant even benefits thanks to untradable but HG have such low mob density. At least we can agree that its much better than RO.

>>201825984
It could've been like transcendance with more anvils or something to rise the success rate but by now its probably too late to rework remaining players would just quit out of frustration.
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>>201825984
Just craft another weapon if you fail to anvil it :^)
It's what you are supposed to do
Didn't got that one at +16? Just craft another bro ehehe
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>>201825984
>it's completely rng bullshit
Ohh I see now. So anything with rng is just bullshit and there's no actual difficulty, I get you. Getting rare item drops and recipes isn't hard, it's just bullshit. So like 99% of every MMO is bullshit. Nice 200IQ post.
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>>201826180
Whats the problem there?
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>>201826180
>SEAmonkeys
duterte's really slacking
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>>201826180
>SEA
>Pinoys chimping in chat
Who cares?
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>>201826246
Retard. RNG can be implemented in smart ways.
Anvil RNG and ToS's RNG in general is pure bullshit.
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>>201826187
Reward effort instead of luck.
How many people have trans 10? How many people have Solmiki weapons?

>>201826246
>So like 99% of every MMO is bullshit
Glad you understand
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>>201788184
if you are willing to buy a token and a few dungeon clear from the market, less than 9 hours
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>tfw i see nothing but 3 guilds on EU
fucking dead server in a dead as fuck game
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>>201826405
me
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>>201826445
>Reward autism grinding by having everyone have the same shit
no thanks.
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>>201826180
If imc fucks up necros again(e.g. summons don't get drops) instead of just coming up with something to boot afkers I will figure out a way to end this game for good.
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>>201827305
>everyone has full solmiki and stage 10
retard
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>>201827695
Everyone who plays the game does. Everyone else just whines and calls them whales and begs imc to remove trans.
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>>201827695
>He wants everyone to have +30 equipment
Yeah, you are retarded.
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>>201827761
Sounds like they earned that then.

>>201827827
I want anvils to get fucking deletes from the game, retard.
>my stage 6 shitty orange weapon has more damage than your stage 10 solmiki weapon because mine +30 and yours +11 xdxdxd
Completely fair mechanic.
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>>201827956
You just can't deal with the equipment refine system in the game because you're a shitter. You think people actually believe your pathetic excuses for not being able to refine gear? Lmaoing at your life
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>>201828084
>luck is a skill bro lmao
>you just need to git good
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Delete upgrades. Make weapon base damage ranges random too.
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>>201828192
>It's skill to hoard Blessed Gems
Still lmaoing at your pathetic life.
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Fuck off autist if you can't understand the difference between progression with predictable rewards like what Transcendence gives you, and shitty RNG based systems like anviling where the game randomly decides to invalidate all your efforts for no reason.
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>He doesn't know how refining works
Pathetic little baby
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Cutting your You supply right here
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>>201827648
I like that change. Make it so the Necro/Sorc has to attack at least once or he gets nothing, not even EXP.
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At least you finally admit that you're just an upset little baby who can't refine his equipment because he's a poorfag.
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>>201831426
Might as well remove summons altogether at that point.
>Make a class with pets
>You have to kill everything yourself
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>>201831426
and of course it won't stop
-automated attacking
-people botting with other classes
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>make a class with pets
>have to play the game
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>>201831426
>Make it so the Necro/Sorc has to attack at least once or he gets nothing, not even EXP
Summons don't attack if you don't attack at least once, so they are macroing already.
No point with that change.
You know what would be much easier? Just fucking banning people.
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>>201832025
Yeah, they should ban every faggot mongoloid that wants a class where you literally don't play the game. Anyone with a Sorc or Necro on their account should be permanently banned.
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>>201832247
Rip shop classes
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>>201823667
tiredpopo.png
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How can people get so mad about a class feature working as intended?
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>>201825403

+16 shitty primus weapon > despair
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>>201834996
So? Make another one or use Golden Anvils, retard.
So many MMO babies in this thread. Is this your first ever MMO?
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>>201835925
Now I get it, it is indeed skill to hoard golden anvils.
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>>201834690
stems from people being angry that others can make money at all
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>>201836246
>He's too retarded to refine shit
Wow it's so hard to +11, +16, or +21 things.
Even retarded shitters like this dude can refine shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsWkgwGCI9c
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>>201835925
>Is this your first ever MMO?
It's my first korean garbage mmo yeah.
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>>201836430
It's so easy bro, just blow 60m in enhancement silver and 200m in weapons.
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>>201837326
Damn straight it's easy. That's why I said you faggots who complain about refining are shitters, because you can't even make silver in this casual game.
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Stop feeding the retard.
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Instead of playing the game, you go into tosg to post about how bad the game is because you can't get what you want. Typical self-entitled babies.
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How do I get Goddess Saule in Septnyi Glen to appear? What questline do I have to do? I'm doing the Runecaster quests and she's not there.
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>>201837326
Don't forget that the weapons he got +16 on have shit stats.
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Instead of playing a broken boring game, I just log in, get my daily event rewards and logout to play actual good games.
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>Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Fortune
>5,370 viewers

>Three of Savior
>27 viewers
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>Still logging in and posting here only to complain about a game he doesn't like.
200 IQ post right there.
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tosg is literally the only reason to even bother with this game
playing the thread is billion times less boring that actually playing the game
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>>201838638
>arguing with mentally ill people is fun
No wonder you were playing tos
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>>201838432
>tos streams
What is there even to stream. Dailies?
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>>201838873
The same can be asked about any gaming stream. And yet kusoges like BDO have 5k+ viewers right now.
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>>201838998
Because BDO is actually a good game. However, to retards like you, everything about your life is bad. You can't find a good game because it doesn't exist in your world.
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>>201839259
But I do play good games. You are just a typical tostarded IMC defender and every argument turns into "it's you, it's your fault".
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>>201838998
BDO actually has competitive content though...
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>>201837956
HAHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT GET TO QUESTING YOU HAVE TO DO EVERY SINGLE YELLOW QUEST ON KLAI SIDE FAGGOT
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>>201839610
You're the one who's implying there's nothing interesting about streaming games, retard. Millions of people disagree with you.

>IMC defender
Quote where I'm defending IMC in my post again.

>But I do play good games. I'm not going to say what games they are btw.
Typical "my religion is better than your religion" post. Who are you trying to impress?
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Spazjumping with a rod causes desynchs.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/376348/

>All Kabbalists attacking with the rod attack attribute will desync like that.

>The bug doesn’t appear to happen only to Kabbalist, jump attacking has a chance of causing desync, but the desync is more likely to happen if you are a wizard or a kabbalist.

tostards.... why....
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>>201840504
>You're the one who's implying there's nothing interesting about streaming games, retard.
Not true.
See my reply and the post I quoted.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THIS GENERAL IS A FUCKING JOKE
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>>201841095
It's not really true though.
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>>201840748
It's working as intended. Kim programs desyncs into the most powerful class to keep them from being too powerful.
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>>201838432
you get more viewers if you show your tits Mia
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>>201840748
>bug
Yeah, just like in the Halloween event.
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>>201843041
More like a design flaw.
It happens everywhere. Like in klai when people go from the market to the statue by jumping over the roof thing. They always get stuck running into the wall.

The game doesn't give a shit about positions at all. The server doesn't validate anything the client sends.
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>>201843363
yeah bruh it's a bug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSAeeuCNWkE
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>tfw found the perfect primus and it fails to +6 4 times in a row
Why is my enhance luck so shit?
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>>201845214
Personally if I fail more at all in the early stages then I just stop and try again another day. Sometimes the RNG just isn't on your side.
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>>201845214
One time I managed to get to +10 without fail then proceeded to fail every single time after that all the way to +5.
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>>201839259
>>201839631
But I'm so fucking glad ToS doesn't have stuff like tet/pen requirements. Trascendance feels so much better in comparison
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dead
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>>201838432
https://youtu.be/BhFrql0HyHs
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So it's been a while, over a year. Is the game still as buggy? How has the grind gotten? Are the servers dead? Which server should I play? Are updates still rolling in? How much IRL money will I need to spend to be good? to be cute? Are there good Miko builds? Are there good solo miko builds? What is the cutest builds miko that can solo? Are Dex Fencers good again (please say yes)?
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>>201847341
Not as buggy, not much level grind but lots item/money grind, Klaipeda, We get "big" updates every 3 months, 0, dunno depends, Yes there are good miko builds, maybe if you are funded, dunno, Fencers are ok.
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>>201845214
being a lucklet is suffering
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>>201847341
>Is the game still as buggy?
A lot less bugs, bug still many bugs.
>How has the grind gotten?
A lot easier. Field mobs give more EXP now, specially on dungeon-type maps and in the hunting grounds. Dungeon spamming is the most efficient way to lvl up fast though. Grinding parties almost don't exist now.
>Are the servers dead? Which server should I play?
Not yet, but not very alive either. Play on the server closest to your location. Avoid Orsha.
>Are updates still rolling in?
We get important updates each 2~3 months and new events each week. We're having a shitty event right now though, but new players can enjoy the boost from the Get Ahead (permanent) event.
>How much IRL money will I need to spend to be good?
0. There's no content worth whaling your character. Gearing up for the current content became piss easy and cheap.
>to be cute?
It's a combination between luck and IRL money if you want to spend on Gacha boxes. New costumes and cute hats became expensive, so it all depends on your patience.
>Are there good Miko builds?
Yes. Check the classbuild ranking in the website to see which builds are popular.
>Are there good solo miko builds? What is the cutest builds miko that can solo?
I have a Cleric2Bokor3MikoKabba3 and I'd say it's very easy to farm with it and cost efficient. You might find more builds that suit your Kirito desires.
>Are Dex Fencers good again (please say yes)?
Combat system got completely change in May. Full DEX is only good for autoattack builds since it affects attack speed since then. High DEX is good for builds with many skills with faster animations depending on your DEX.
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>>201848295
>new events each week
not true
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>>201848295
>>201848001

Thanks rolling Cleric2Bokor3MikoKabba3, and Fencer once I see what's up with the combat system.
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>>201845214

better luck next time!
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>>201848747
Wrong.

Ever since september update we get new events each week except for Oct 31th and Nov 28th maintenances, but we were having long running events at that time (Popomon and Halloween in October and Popomon 2.0 in November). I could check the previous patch notes, but that's enough to say we're always getting new events, even if they're shitty ones like this weekend "prize" crap.
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>>201848295
>it's very easy to farm with it
Oops, I mean it's very easy to play solo with it, though you could say it's good to farm too since it's good in the HG340 too.

>>201849243
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=975
See the dev blog posts from that time too.
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I hope we get that cute badass thing next month. I'm ready go full autist to grind AJ rank points on february.
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>>201852115
How does one "grind" these points
I kind of want the pig actually
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>>201845214
make an alchemist
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>>201852204
Monster and Item tabs give the highest amount of AJ rank points. You can figure out the rest by yourself.
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I haven't played since before r9. Since there is gear at level 350, are the old 315 pract recipes pointless?
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>>201847079
>tet/pen requirements
Who requires tet/pen? It's such a small upgrade.
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>>201852945
Some elite pvp guilds I reckon
Although usually even with Tri and good accessories you should be able to meet the requirements

It just shows though how competitive that game is and - alive -
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>>201813742
>>201813483
>>201810658
Loot chance only works for RNG stat gear, nothing else.
12X is max roll for it.
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>>201781473
Make Transcendence one stage only. And fuck your anvils.
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>>201853974
How do you know?
It's way more likely it works on all global drops.
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>>201852204
complete monster kill count and item drop count, on almost all maps
shops/crafting does little to zero. its mostly kills+drops
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>>201854119
IMC said that every time

challenge5 has 1000Loot and the only stuff that drops more often is rng gear
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>>201854270
These reset when?
On the beginning of each month?
Ty for the tip by the way
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>>201854615
30th or 31th at 0.00 server time (Klai)
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>>201854405
>IMC said
lol
> the only stuff that drops more often is rng gear
Yeah because mob drops aren't global drops.
With global drops I mean stuff like Blessed Shards, Mithril etc in Hunting ground.
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>>201854697
Is there any way to see the other ranks besides the top 3 and the one nearest to you?
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>>201854907
click the things at top right of AJ a few times. all are there. that can be buggy

>>201854778
yes sure. gotta believe it until there is prove that IMC lies..
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>>201855116
Oh yeah now I see
And I can get the pig from being in the top 10?
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>>201855554
You need 20 Voucher. We dont know when we get the new pet. New Pet = different Vouchers.
Vouchers are tradeable and (usually) not (very) expensive
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>>201856053
Oh they are tradeable so I dont even have to do all this shit lmao
ty M**
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>>201856384
there are zero in market here right now
maybe i should get some before they remove them
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>>201856541
315 recipes and artilloniums come out of the 300 (used to be 290) dungeon, and 315 orange mats come out of CM cubes, so they are all plentiful and are easy to craft now
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to kill the conversation with my informative post.

Uhhh

Gas all chronos, anyone who doesn't play Murmnobi should just kill themselves, Transcendence is a perfectly acceptable mechanic, this game is p2w
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>>201859312
remove anvils, make trans less broken, keep the same system
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>>201859312
>Transcendence is a perfectly acceptable mechanic
It is.
Anvils however
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>>201860326
>1250_daysof_saalus.jpg
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>>201860798
>not having 400 alts running saalus every day
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>challenge mode
I'm new what is this is every day mandatory like saalus
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>>201861103
Yes.
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>>201860798
>>201861021
>not just farming silver and buying them
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>>201861243
>"farming" silver
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>>201861103
it's not mandatory at all desu
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>>201861103
Run it once a day on every alt, collect the raid stone recipes, go farm the mats for the raid stones, collect 4 raid stones to do the raid, get 15 orange dust.
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>>201861243
>>201861383
>necro farming
>when you can just have comfy link-thaum-FF drop farms
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>>201861678
Can you macro that to farm 24/7?
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>>201861815
link
knot
swell
kill

Doesn't seem too hard to macro.
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>>201861975
They why not even goldsellers use thaum bots?
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>>201862225
Maybe its for the same reason your english sucks, because all non-whites are retarded...
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>>201862225
the combo is ping reliant and BRs are better off letting necro summons do the farming
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>>201862532
Chinese have higher IQ than whites
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>lethargy nerf
>expand nerf
wew, now archer has only one good low rank class, they killed sapper

so...everyone is now forced to be QS
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>>201862767
>He thinks IQ is intelligence
You're only proving him right.
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>>201862820
Lethargy is a wizard skill, were you going Wizard C3 on your Archer for leathargy?
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>>201862912
>>201862532

t. 56%

>>201849276
>6500 matk
>not even t10/squire

wew
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>>201862820
>lethargy nerf
???
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>>201862820
>implying people would use lethargy for your broom trap anyway
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>>201863067
any wizard could give +50% damage to broom trap, anon
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>Decide to try the game out since my friend seems to like it
>Had to go through 50 workarounds just to get the game to boot up
>Game finally boots up
>The .ipf files are damaged
It's like they don't want people playing this game what the fuck
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>>201863297
>Had to go through 50 workarounds just to get the game to boot up
Such as?
You probably did lots of unnecessary things.
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>>201863297
works on my machine
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>>201863427
First off I had to fuck with the .dlls because the patcher wouldn't even start. Then the patcher was still broken after so I had to fuck with the "main" image after to get it to at least seemingly work. When the game booted up I got the IPF thing, deleted the IPF files so it could repair and now I'm right back to stage 2.

V1 unsupported
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>>201863235
Oh no one cares loser. Play a real class. Wouldn't it be balanced out by Kino getting a skill that forces enemies onto the ground, so you could actually hit flying with broom trap? That's an infinite damage increase.
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>install game
>click play in steam
>game works
sounds good
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Working as intended
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>>201863783
I'm using steam so if only it was that easy.
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>>201863662
The patcher is actually working, it just doesn't show anything unless you have the asian fonts installed or some shit.
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>>201863752
wtf, I can blast over 4000% dmg on flying stuff with detonate traps, play the game
>>201863219
any good cryo chrono does it, frost pillar -> lethargy, everyone loves 100k broom crits, faggot
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>>201863990
>cryo chronos casting more than 2 spells/minute
That's complete bullshit
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>>201864102
they do because murminobi overlords (strike damage) also loves lethargy
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>>201863875
is that easy for me and most other ppl
there are rarely posts about start/install problems
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>>201863990
4000% of 0 is still 0. Play a real class.
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Does this game have like an ERP endgame or what am I working towards at 350
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>>201864257
>0
stop using lv 1 bows
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>>201864385
It has a "log in for an hour each day to do the same dungeon infinitely" end game.
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>>201864683
But what does it all mean
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>>201863990
>using detonate traps in a party
I really hope you don't do that.
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>>201864892
How dumb are you? I just told you the end game. You do the daily dungeon and then there's nothing else worth doing.
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anyone have a inquisitor skill build?
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>>201865939
pally3inquis2 with filler ranks like monk for strike debuff
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>>201866283
Hahahaha this is the worst thing anyone can do.
Pretty much the worst cleric build probably.

Paladin is absolutely useless and so is Inq2.

If you want Inquisitor, then go Inq1 Zealot1.
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>>201865939
Chaplain memebuild
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>>201865939
Just get wheel, rest of the skills are worthless trash
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>>201866813
he wanted an inquis build anon, and >>201866283 gave him one
he didn't ask for a good build
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>>201865939
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4117bbbegg.1a2a345561.11253544.1f2131428a986573.1525315361.7a4161831191

that's my inq, and it's pretty cool to play, but very sp intensive , leftovers = whatever, maybe more malleus or wheel, or more points for IM (pvp) or more into sacrifice (turning shit into devil boost almost everything you pack)

stats: ~150 dex for quick smites and smashes, I also put 50 con and 50 spr, rest went to str, but these stats are meme. It's not my main character but it's definitely at my top 3 "fun" alt
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>>201867124
>Majine no Hippo
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>>201867124
Literally what is the purpose of this build besides erping inside a barrier?
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>>201867694
that's the point i think
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When does this game become fun? I'm level 110.
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tfw you could have a stage 8 weapon but instead you just hoard all the shards cause you don't know what you want to main and don't want to waste the shards ;-;
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>>201867906
Very soon! Very very soon just keep playing and don't forget to buy TP (Tree Points).
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>>201867906
Depends on your build to be desu. Also depends on if you enjoy killing things.
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>>201867983
Same feel here except it's
>tfw you could have a stage 8 weapon but instead you do nothing because everything is pointless and even the tiny effort of taking the shards out of the storage, crafting blessed gems and then transcending your weapon isn't worth it.
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>>201868072
People who enjoy killing things play better games like Tera (better combat) or PoE (better APRG).

People who enjoy chatting or afking in town play ToS.
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>>201867983
Same but stage 10.
No idea what would be the point of transcending my stuff since I can already do every content worth doing with untranscended everything.
I guess I could whale a memebuild like Sorc.
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Is there an exp buff going on or something? I'm leveling so fast compared to how I used to.
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I've done the Runecaster quest 3 times and I still have no clue how the rune from Lucid Winterspoon (Chronomancer Master) works. I know there's a hidden buff timer that shows when she'll be done searching for the rune, but how the fuck does it work? Sometimes the timer doesn't feel like moving at all, and sometimes it moves way faster than it's supposed to.
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>>201867576
>Majine no Hippo
what is this

>>201867694
Smashing demons and healing sluts
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>>201867906
what's your build? if you have a bunch of support shit early then killing won't be as fun
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>>201868618
Barb2.
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>tfw free blessed gem instead of shard out of the salad cube
i forgot that this could even happen
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>>201868335
TERA has worse problems than ToS in terms of loot though, or at least it did last time I played it. PoE has worse performance issues, somehow.
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>>201868817
Tera's main focus isn't looting though.

And compared to ToS, it's safe to say that PoE has no performance issues. PoE's perf is predictable, just like any other game. It runs at constant 60 fps on modern hardware and can run at constant 60 fps on mid-range machines on lower settings.
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>>201869247
What is the focus of TERA? I remember it be touted as a PvP game or something.
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>>201869872
PvP, combat, ERPing.
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>>201869872
Fucking Elins.
Anyone saying anything else lies.
Its literally just a porn game nowadays.
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>>201869872
Elins
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>>201869872
20yo lolis
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>>201870089
>>201870071
>>201870065
I'm going to get called gay, but I don't find Elin attractive.
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>>201871279
Gay. Elins are sex incarnate.
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>>201871279
Elins were literally made to be as sexy as possible.
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>>201871346
I like boobies and butts, and Elin thighs are too fat. Thicc is a disgusting meme that should die with nigs on the day of the rope.
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>it's another anon is selling a +16 with no potential lost episode
god damn it i just want a fucking +11
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>>201871279
some of the other females there can be pretty hot too.
literally porn game, they dont even try to hide it
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>>201871850
Doesn't BDO have them beat on porn game too though? There's a ton of non-combat things to do in BDO, and it has a much better character creator.
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>>201871279
Elins in the game look disgusting. Elins in Japanese fanart are amazing.

>>201871510
>I like boobies
You'll grow up one day.
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>>201871985
that is a newer game, right?
didnt look a lot into it. the lolipedo race/chars are more like disgusting furry there.
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>>201871683
desire sensor your lucklet cuck
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Have a full str archer with no stat reset, what can i do with her tosg?
must have cute wugushi
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>>201872129
What? There's no furry races in BDO.
>>201872104
>I like asses
It's okay, niggers will be extinct soon and that shit meme will die.
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>>201872129
Are you thinking of Blade and Soul? BDO is that shitty modern Mabinogi knockoff that isn't as cute.
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>>201872365

>>201871510
>I like boobies and butts
retard purge when?
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>>201872384
>>201872365
Oh right, B&S BDO... so many generic 'awesome graphic' 3D mmos nowadays.
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>>201872335
archer2sapper2wugu3mergen2
its shit btw
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>>201871279
I don't like elins too, that's why I pointed as "20yo lolis".
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>>201872839
Neither B&S nor BDO have awesome graphics though. Both of them pride themselves on their combat system, not their graphics.
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>>201872335
Archer3Wugu3Musket3
Do your best anon.
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If I have a character that can critical a lot with physical attacks, do I go full str and use yellow gems? Should I get any points in dex/con?
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>>201873678
Are you talking about Hakka with Rogue2~3? Full STR and yellow gems, yeah.
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stop the Healmage bullying you guys, she just want to have fun with her senpais
Healmage did nothing wrong
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don't play clerics, how much could i get out of this if i listed it on the market?
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Isn't Healmage the sempai by now?
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>>201874297
15~20m maybe, it has good rolls
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>>201874297
What does that have to do with Clerics? +property works with any damage. The price you can get also varies on each server.
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>>201874297
30m
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>>201874297
10m+
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>>201874276
>>201874350
fuck off HM we are full
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>>201874297
>cow
it's shit
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>>201874932
>not hiding all headpieces
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>>201874297
Its not a 120 or so matk roll so nothing over 15m
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>>201874932
fuck you, cow headband is cute
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>>201875880
LALACOW ;-;
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Is a sword and shield templar a playable solo class for the most part? I want a SnS character but I don't want to be useless in content.
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>>201878196
Don't make a templar then
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>>201878196
>content
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>>201878196
MURMNOBI
Just take Pelt2+3 instead of Hoplite1+2
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>>201868817
>PoE has worse performance issues, somehow

I dont even know how. It runs pretty decent, I dont get weird fps drops like ToS, only when opening strongboxes which spawn lot of monsters instantly. I dont even know how ToS is so random using this legend of mana graphics.
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>>201878196
No templar is the most useless class in the game
The only way it would be semi useful would be if you only ran in guildruns but few do that
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>>201826187
Medals HAhaha
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>>201878408
>>201878648
>>201878690
>>201879282
b-but i like the outfit
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>>201879194
PoE has worse performance than ToS for me too. Random DCs from failure to load, predictable DCs from failure to load, horrible several seconds lag, slowdowns when certain enemies appear. ToS runs pretty good in comparison. It's not like I party on PoE so you can't even say "but play in a group on ToS". I can't believe it runs decently for anyone especially since there was a big performance issue when the last league(harbinger) started and that big reused content update was released.

>>201879593
Just take one circle then and spend your time wishing you had taken something else.
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>>201879593
Then do a doppel build and tack on templar instead of shinobi
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>>201879593
Do the full SPR Forge meme build.
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I have the hethran badge quest where you have to open a chest in teh area the shadowmancer is. But there's no chest there. Do I have to do something to spawn it?
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>>201879689
>PoE has worse performance than ToS for me too.
There's no way ToS will run anywhere near good compared to PoE.
PoE doesn't have major perf issues. The complaints you often hear are from people with garbage machine. It sucks for them, but PoE devs improve and update the graphics with time, which obviously fucks up people with older hardware. But thoses updates and the performance are consistent with other games: 60fps on modern hardware, 60fps on low settings on mid-range hardware, shit fps on shit hardware. There's nothing out of ordinary.

ToS's engine though, is 100% broken. The devs explained how the way they animate things kills performance. It's just a huge design flaw.
There's no way ToS should be running at sub 60fps on a i7 from 2017 and a GTX 1060. And I'm not even talking about stability issues such as VGA erroring and desynchs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2fHarhvGvY

What's the song on this video?
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>>201881273
>PoE doesn't have major perf issues
Yes it does and it really started with last league. It was okay before that. You can probably power through it with an amazing machine, unlike ToS, but it runs like fucking garbage.
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>>201881397
NOT TRUE!
PoE IS PERFECT!

cant you poo niggers all fuck off to your gen
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>>201881397
I easily had 60 fps on low settings with 2015 hardware.
Now with a Kaby Lake i7 and a GTX 1060 I get stable 60fps no matter what happens on screen, while having ToS run on a second monitor and I can even have OBS with a replay buffer with no performance loss.

And now look at ToS. It's otherworldly. There's no way to even imagine what could IMC devs have done to fuck up their engine so hard.
Fuck, it can't even run on AMD cpus properly.
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>>201881791
When it's ToS, it's IMC's fault
When it's PoE, it's the players fault
>i-it's fine on my machine!
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>>201882271
I don't play PoE and I'm not him but don't even begin to act like this game isn't an absolute travesty of optimization
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>>201878196
Templar can be a memey pvp tank but it's not viable for anything else except ferrying your guildies around.
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>>201862820
Will archers will never get over their victim complex?
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>>201882271
When it's ToS, it's IMC's fault.
When it's PoE, it's GGG's fault.

Now, what kind of hardware do you have so PoE runs as badly as ToS? If your computer can't run PoE on low at at least 30 fps without massive framedrops, how can you play ToS comportablythen ?

I can't get above 15fps with massive freezes in ToS during WB fights on 2017 hardware while any other modern game will have stable 60fps easily. I can't even cross Klaipeda without stutters and framerate dropping to 10 fps. How is this even remotely possible or acceptable.
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>>201882590
Yeah. I'll probably just get one point then switch to muramilo
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Do Wugushi skills work while you're in Bullet Marker gun stance?
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>>201874350
no, she's too dumb to be a senpai
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>>201884642
Yeah, but why would you play Wugushi?
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>wait 2 hours for Chronomancer Master to give me the rune for the Runecaster quest
>her buff reaches 0, which means she should give the run
>instead it randomly goes back to the middle of the timer
What the fuck?
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justify archer's offhand weapons not being just a stat stick and extension to whatever you have on your xbow

like, I went cannoneer but all my rank 1-6 skills are faded to die because I'll need to trans my canon, same for pistol and etc

let me jsut trans my xbow and make it consider the trans level for both
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>>201887451
No fucko, get back to farming shards. You can always just buy TP or from one of IMC's affiliated chinese gold selling sites and trans your weapon in a day instead of 7 years.
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>>201879689
I did some daily rotas, can you imagine how much stuff happens on screen during PoE? Imagine a full party... still wasnt worse than ice pillar+any skill. My game freezes sometimes when ice pillar is used, sometimes not. Sometimes you dont even know what will drop your fps or crash your game.

Performance was pretty much ok and stable during essence and prophecy league, and I was using onboard graphic card.

>but they did performance update then it was shit before

They actually did because they keep adding shit to their game and need to polish, or at least try, that shit. Not like they are doing a great job, but in ToS is like they dont even care about it.

PoE does have some serious issues regarding their servers and the beautiful "an unexpected disconnection..." indeed. I think it increased in this league. The infamous desync is gone tho.
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Is this game solo friendly?
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>>201888387
you solo until you hit 300+, then you party with people who doesn't say anything
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>>201888387
yes, a bit too much tho
unless you care about ET but there's no point
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>>201888387
I have never partied with another player ever and I've been playing since iCBT1.
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>>201888387
I basically only play it solo
You can make good money
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>>201888617
>>201888683
>>201888835
>>201888875
Can you solo the dungeons for example? They seem to be pretty good exp.
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>>201888919
possible (with pardoner buffs) but inefficient
you can autoqueue and tab out while waiting dungeons
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>>201888919
Dungeons are shit EXP for the most part anyway. You can easily solo the level 50 and 120 dungeons, but I wouldn't even bother with the 120.
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>>201888919
there's no reason to solo them. you can, but it's retarded. you literally get exp bonuses for using the automatch. if you want to solo in the dungeon just split off from the main party and kill in a different area, it's faster that way.
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>>201890903
Okay fagmo, go queue the 180 dungeon and tell me how long it takes to get into the dungeon.
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>>201888387
No.
Not at all.

You can solo level with boring ass quests.

Dungeons need a queue, so it's not solo.

End game is boring ass grind in dungeons, not solo.

Only once you've obtain God status can you solo stuff, and even then if your build is offensive.

This game is not fun though. I do not recommend playing it especially if you enjoy being a lone wolf. All content is behind grouping up and the servers are so dead that you will never find a group to do things with. You'll have to rely on random chat prompts at the top of the screen and hope some random group of 4 is looking for one extra and would take a newbie with them.

Spoiler: None of them will take you.
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>>201891843
Just go grind at Coastal Fortress or Dingofasil District and try soloing Challenge Mode. Maybe you'll be able to solo up to stage 2.

Those maps have a ridiculous EXP rate:
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/3340
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/1631

Tatenye Prison (HG190 at Ruklys Street) is a good place to grind too. You can also do the Glyquare event in Roxona East (lvl 182 with high EXP rate too).

https://tos.neet.tv/zones/3860
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>>201892963
this game could have been a better ragnarok online, but they decided to put in queues and ridiculous required quests/exp cards. mmos needs to stop following this questing bullshit

>muh it's not an RO clone
fuck off
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>>201848295
>0.
what
is
token
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>>201893106
Yeah I know. I was responding to his "just queue for the dungeon it's faster" when it takes 30 minutes while spamming shout to get into any dungeon besides the 300.
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>>201893946
>what is token
a thing you buy in market?
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>>201894148
none on the market
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>>201894295
but there are 2 now. over a dozen earlier.
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>>201893946
>paying IRL money for tokens
lmao

You get a 3 day token at lvl 50 from the get ahead event or a 5 day token if you're a returning player. If you're new, get ahead allows you to spam dungeons so much you'll have enough silver or valuable items to buy a 30 day token. In the case of returnees, 5 day is enough time to farm silver to buy a 30 day token.

Since day 1, I only spent IRL money with character slots and colored lenses.
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>>201894435
there are like 5 servers
some have none
i know math is hard for you but telling anon over there you need 0 dollars invested isn't exactly true

sometimes the market has 0 tokens available and their availability depends on the server. some have none. some have 1 or 2.

>>201894551
>lmao
stopped reading there
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Is there any way to force true fullscreen? The setting to 0 under the user xml doesn't seem to work or just prevents the game from booting up at all.
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>>201894621
not all servers are as dead as yours.
if there is none, just wait a little.

buying tokens with real cash is dumb
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>>201894798
t. poorfag
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>>201894963
I have a lot of cash. But there is no need to spend that on Tokens.
Char slots and even Hair, Dye are way better to use TP on.
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>>201860798

>doing saalus
>not just farming 100hg

wow
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>>201894963
>spending money on tokens or other shit you can just buy with silver
the only things worth buying are character slots and costumes you want that nobody is selling.
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>>201894681
resolution mode="0" works for me, but it kills alt tabbing and tghe setting gets reset to borderless sometimes if you change settings.
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how do you get medals for TP exchange shop?
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>>201896146
Exchanging items from goddess blessed cube for medals. The exchange rate is 30 medals per cube.
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>people actually spend money on TP or silver in this game
holy christ, just exploit GvG for thousands of TP. oh you missed out on it? HAHAHAHAHAHHA. I literally still have 400 TP from back when GvG meant free TP.
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>>201896146
Buy premium items off the market and exchange them for medals.
Checks elixirs then hats.
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The problem is that relies entirely on someone else buying the token and then listing it for silver, which is probably the worst way to go about using your TP. Here's hoping this game has an endless supply of cucks that never learn about RMT
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Shinobi is literally another Agny...
wake up Mr. Kim...
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>>201896010
I get this when I set the resolution mode to "0". Any idea what's causing it? Normally I wouldn't care too much but my laptop doesn't play very nice with borderless windowed since it has a 960m and causes diagonal screen tearing.
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>>201896362
I do both.
Used my free TP on slots and cosmetics and got some more TP with my $ for more slots and cosmetics.

Why not? I am not poor.
Actually, according to my countries 'standard' i am, but i still dont mind to spend some on a game i like to play.
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>>201896362
tfw gambled all my GvG TP away like an autist when the first gacha cubes came out. Shouldve bought more character slots.
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>>201896567
some people are just honest
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>>201896686
No idea. Have you changed the width/height values to match your display?
This is what I have
<Resolution mode="0" width="1920" height="1080" BitPerPixel="32" VSync="1"/>
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>>201897071
That did the trick, thanks so much. Between switching to a controller and this the game got way more playable. Shame about the alt tabbing though, I've never seen a game outright disable it like that.
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>>201896592
Fuck, I wish Agny was 600%. I guess it doesn't take up a class slot though.
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>>201897776
well, you could fit 1 even pyro 1 and be good when agny was rampant, shinobi is almost the same, just better
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>>201898023
They should make all the "master class" circles just have retarded Shinobi clones. So you take something dumb like Highlander3 + Master + Shinobi and you have 20 clones out.
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>>201899357
I was actually excited about the master classes until I saw Dragoon C3, Hackapelle C2, and the Catapharact revamp. They're just going to give all the master classes a fucking retarded looking hat that increases all their damage by 90000000% + some other dumb bullshit like 20 evasion on the buff so they can pretend they're all unique.
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>>201899627
The only purpose of master classes is to be damage boosts for classes like Ranger that are literally one skill classes, they aren't going to go back and make 40 unique class extension circles.
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>master classes

what
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how expensive is it in terms of real money to get an outfit you want from the exchange shop?
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>>201900975
They should though. Just release them slowly and in order of appearance, Pyro/Cryo and Highlander/Pelt and Ranger/QS and Krivis/Priest.
Also remove C3 costumes and make them the master class costumes.

Or they could just make it so you can level the skills up to 20 and they have better scaling past 17. Even going back to iCBT2 you can see that skills did have scaling all the way up to level 20.
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>>201901673
something IMC hinted about but gave literally 0 details or information.
ofc tosg retards and forum potatoes make up all kind of awesome stuff about it and hype themself up to big expectations. just to be disappointed later.
like most times in the past already and with most coming up stuff (like wiz and other reworks)
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>>201901673
It was something they teased 40 years ago as a way to make R1-R5 classes on par with R8 classes.
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>>201901747
>Even going back to iCBT2 you can see that skills did have scaling all the way up to level 20.
Because divine might gave +10 skill level lmao
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>>201901885
Image if it stayed in the game like that.
>Divine Maito
>BUNSHIN
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>>201901707
Buy from someone else.

>>201901859
>>201901861
Do you know how much time will take until imc gives other classes the same quest costume treatment r9 classes have to other classes?
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>>201902342
How the fuck could anyone possibly know that? They haven't even talked about doing it for other classes.
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Anybody have the link to the addon that removes the FPS counter? Every one I've found is dead.
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>>201902342
>>201902419
imc insider bro here
2 years
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>>201902342
>>201902419
and other stuff was also announced but about 0 info yet.
like L E G E N D A R Y boss cards
there is a lot on IMCs do to list
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>>201901707
Not feasible, it's 30 medals per hat you turn in and $3 a roll with no guarantee of even getting a hat (Roughly 50%?) while the costumes cost 258 medals or something. Best way is to save up to buy the costume outright or buy medal hats from other people.
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>>201902585
I mean, they do hate money, right?

>no weapon skins
>a lot of missing C3 costumes
>not creating more exclusive costume for limited time
>not using any kind of spend x TP and get your cute hat/weapskin/costume
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>>201904578
>I mean, they do hate money, right?
I dont know man....

>make mediocre class super OP
>everyone plays it
>make C3 costume for it, pretty cool/edgy one
>not release it
>nerf class to absolute shit
>still never release costume
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>>201904727
https://tos.neet.tv/items/624334
JUST
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>>201905152
ikr

Not joking, i'm sure.. back then, MrKim could have got a brand new BMW just by putting that in a gacha.
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>>201905152
to good for TOS
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>>201905791
delete this.
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What's the best male costume for a spear character?
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>>201905929
default goon costume
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>>201905791
dont delete this. and find+post/link full version
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>>201905791
>>201905857
>>201906116
it's probably just barbie doll anatomy underneath
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>New player
How do you handle status points for a lancer / dragoon? Do I just dump into str the entire time?
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>>201906569
most builds do all in one stat.no need for CON in pve.

not sure about these classes, but i think all STR
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>>201906678
>No need for CON in pve
Does that hold true even if you're a tankier class for future reference? For example like a sword and shield character?
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>>201906806
Usually yes but some people like to go full con to save potions
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>>201906569
>>201906806
full str if poor
full dex is only done if you're doing a very specific crit build
full con is if you're taking pelt and going to "tank" or just be a utility alt
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>>201906806
Yes, swordman even get more HP then other classes. And you can temporary get con/hp from gear if you really need/want.
No need to spend stat points in CON. (also events give stat resets sometimes)
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>>201906843
>>201906940
>>201906960
well uh I guess it's time to roll a new character then
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>>201907801
how are your stats? it might not be enough to completely fuck you, and you can fix later
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>>201908264
59 str 25 con at level 63
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>>201908473
delete it.

it's fine just start pumping one of the stats based on the above posts.
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>>201908473
Lv63 is still low and fast to get again. But 25 con is also not much "wasted". Keep the char if you want.
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>>201908473
that's more than okay. hell you can make up the 25 con with stat points given from the main quest. keep it and use an event stat reset later
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>>201908763
>>201908845
>>201909142
Alright, cool. Last question, sorry.
I'm the only one in my friend group playing swordsman so I figure I will go a templar after I remake so we can have a guild. Is it possible to make a more dps oriented templar? I noticed that highlander has a lot of attack skills, but they all seem 2h oriented obviously. Will they still work on 1h + shield?
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>>201909439
Here is how this works
You make a templar
And then you make real char because a templar is shit
It ruins every build because it does absolutely nothing
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>>201909439
you might as well go templar on the char you're planning to "scrap" and then go remake a better one, I reset the only swordie I have into templar and just retired him
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>>201909439
Highlander skills work with any weapon except for cross guard.
You can try making a Templarnobi once the balance patch hits months from now. Here's one I just made.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133322ggd.354555.16263f5a61758191.3a557585.14215a71819565.55254411
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>>201909439
>>201909702
And you dont need Templar to make a guild. Only for 'advanced guild features'.
If you only want a guildname and chat (and maybe icon?), no need for that bad class.
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>>201909875
>Balance patch hits months from now
What will that be doing?

>>201909702
>>201909812
>>201909882
Damn is it really that bad? I usually have an affinity for paladin esque characters anyways.
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>>201909972
I really wish we had a generic knight class that could use 2h sword desu
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>>201894798
all fucking servers are dead you retard
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>>201910161
I just want a proper class to end the 2h builds that isn't Shinobi.
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>>201910459
>reading comprehension
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>>201909972
if you really want to, you could do a full con templar that's meant for dailies, and used to be popular when guild vs guild wasn't broken.
iirc it was pelt3squireXtemplarX
>>201910480
still want a berserker class goddammit
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>>201895632
I didn't know you can buy character slots with silver.

Show me how!!!
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>>201909972
Shinobi's clone skill got many other circle skills added to it's list of skills it can copy.
Here's a post with links to the translated pastebin. >>201743839
It's always due to change since it's only being tested on a test server
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>>201896592
>>201897776
>>201898023
>>201899357
are you both fucking retarded or just fucking retarded
shinobi got nerfed, not buffed
they only added more skills to be cloned
all of which aren't even that good what murmnobis had
you fucking retards
retards
retarded fucking retards
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>replying to 20 year old posts
>with dumb pointless bullshit full of insults and nothing else
kysmm
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>>201909972
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333bbbgg.354555.3f4161758595.453f5a6a85.14213555859565
go full STR with this. not many attacking skills, but you'll be able to do something at least
you mentioned you were 63, what classes are you?
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>is so fucking dumb doesn't know how to reply
lmao and ignored
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>>201910589
>>201910704
I wonder how the new cloned 5 OH Mordschlag will do compared to Targe Smash being added to the clone list as well as shield defense getting factored in the damage calculation.
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>>201910897
This character was just a swordsman + pel but I'll just restart due to the con. Getting to 63 didn't take long given the absurd leveling rate so far anyways. Thanks for taking the time to make this.
Random question, why squire? If I'm looking for damage wouldn't something like rodelero or doppel be better?
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>>201911170
Squire is just a nice utility class to support other characters with the several buffs they provide, and some small income with the repair shop.
Not really viable as an active character though imo
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>>201911170
Because Templar is a useless alt character anyway and so is Squire so you may as well combine the two because having either makes you a useless deadweight that needs to be carried anyway. You may as well whole-ass one thing than half ass two things.
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>>201911142
mords has one of the shittiest animations in the game
you've probably never even see it
by the time he has used all 5 overheats the clones are fucking gone

AND THE CLONES DO NOT GET THE FUCKING CRIT BONUS YOU RETARDED MONGREL
THAT WAS THE NERF
THEY GET NO BENEFITS FROM ANY FUCKING ATTRIBUTE
NONE
NADA
THIS IS WHY YOU ARE RETARDED
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>>201911170
your character is going to be a templar guild master, so you might as well have the utility of squire repairs for your friends too. just saying though, resetting for ~20 stat points isn't that big of a deal when resets are given every event. that said, resetting still isn't a huge deal at that low level.
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How much would you sell unidentified primus raffye pistols on Klaipedia for?
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thaum or ff? planning to mindlessly grind uosis
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>>201913925
I think around 20m
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>>201914284
>or
silly anon, you need both
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>>201914284
Thaum or SR*, damn it.
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>>201914284
Link2Thaum2FF3
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iToS is managed by completely inept fuckwits. why on earth aren't they giving us events that entice people to login? even kToS has the clover anvil event and people can potentially get shards, blessed gems and golden anvils every day. all we get is that abhorrent guess shit that gives useless crap.

https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1228
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no events for 3 weeks AHAHAHA thats okay enjoy challenge mode everyday
;-;
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>>201914378
for uosis you're better off with a SR
thauma is better for high lootchance HG farming
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>>201914562
I barely have time to do any even ever since r9 hit, been busy lvling and cm
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>>201914489
Dont compare yourself to Gods True Chosen People you subhuman wh**e **g
Be lucky you get to play this superior game at all that your underdeveloped brain cannot comprehend
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>>201914826
I fucking hate orientals, they are so fucking racist.
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>>201915136
Its healthy and normal to be moderately racist
Only whites have been cucked into believing that being racist is worse than being the incarnation of Evil Satan Hitler
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>>201914489
at least we don't have to hear christmas music anymore
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>>201915358
That's because only whites have been hitler

>>201914489
They need to stop events altogether and give some of the other content they worked on like colony wars and skin tones and pied piper
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>>201910545
only tp shop stuff can be sold in market
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>>201914489
https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1227

>One of the winners was 0.5 fps Chrono
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>>201916174
Comfy chrono
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>>201911441
>THEY GET NO BENEFITS FROM ANY FUCKING ATTRIBUTE
Wow, instead of doing x5 your damage with clones you'll do x4.33 if you have attributes level 100.
You'll do x5 damage instead of x6 with divine might.
That's with lv 100 attributes, anything less and the clones' efficiency will raise proportionally.
Want to add Deeds? x3.26 more damage with Deeds 15 and lv 100 attributes, x3.70 with divine might.
This shit is still completely retarded.
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>>201914489

i just want my archer changes already
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>>201917976
FUCKING RETARD
READ THIS VERY SLOWLY

ATTRIBUTES
EVEN DAMAGE
DO NOT
I REPEAT
DO NOT
DO FUCKING
ANYTHING
TO CLONES
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>>201918780
That's why I didn't consider neither attributes nor buffs for clones.
Are you retarded?
even by removing those you still get a retarded amount of extra damage.
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>>201918938
yeah holy shit a hidden class that is an insane pain to do is actually useful
please fucking make swords absolutely worthless before they even get good

you know what, have you drivel
have you lunatic retarded bants here on this literally dead general
I'm fucking glad no sane developer reads this retarded shit you spout here because you're too dumb to even realize what you write
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>>201919028
>useful
>gives you ~4 times more damage than you usually do
>useful
That's broken as fuck and force EVERY swordman to go Shinobi, nice design there.
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>>201913873
U-UU~ii
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>>201919105
i dont give a shit keep spouting
no one is listening to you
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>>201919191
You are :^)
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>>201914489
We already had two clover anvil events.
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>>201918780
Irrelevant since it doesn't have to compete with old shinobi. New shinobi is "better" relative to alternatives because old shinobi was specialized for boss killing and new shinobi should just be automatically slapped into every swordsman build.
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>>201919906

And? This is like our seventh fucking guess the number event. I'll take another clover event or pokemon event over guess anytime.
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Plate or Leather for Inquisitors?
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>>201920248
anything with loot chance +100
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why do i need to verify integrity of game files every other day, /tosg/? is this intended?
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>>201916174
>staff Amy's choice
She's so lewd. I wonder if the staff boys are constantly sexually harassed by this predator.
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so am i still supposed to put all green gems on my weapon?
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>>201920248
>Phys dps
leather
>Trip to sausys
cloth
>Magic dps
plate or cloth
>I just want to survive
plate AND cloth, switch between when needed
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>>201922798
Sounds like you're a retard
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>>201931864
button your pants you fucking slob
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>>201931864
You should have just let this shithole die
More than 2 hours since last post
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What went so wrong with Rank 9?
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>>201932117
It's 6AM in the only first world country.
>>201932248
They forgot that adding classes isn't adding content and expect people to keep doing the 300 dungeon, ET, and Saalus for another year.

P.S. PUT THE FUCKING WIZ CHANGES UP ON KTEST KIM.
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>>201932248
This >>201932363 and they made farming even more frustrating. Removing golden anvils and card albums from the regular loot list was a big mistake. Besides, you need to farm 200 materials in those boring maps for the Masinios recipes. No wonder people only farm silver and shards to exchange them with the bots. Playing this game is boring and frustrating.

Challenge Mode was the only good thing in this update. Even if it gets repetitive, it's nice to test cross-class synergy if you do it in parties with 2 or 3 people.
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>>201932248
Literally EVERYTHING
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>>201932248
They rank 9 classes suck ass. The only decent one is Zealot, and only because physical classes have literally no other choice since Kim decided to fuck Inquisitor in the ass.
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>>201933992
>Inquisitor is bad
Baka, Inqui is mandatory for the current Cleric meme build.
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>>201934109
Inquisitor C2 is fucking worthless, and are you braindead? Inquisitor C1 isn't R9, nor is it new.
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>>201916174
Brainlet here, can someone explain the attempt / fps part to me?
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>>201934736
Rasvoy Lake grass animations and the bloated cubes from the Shadowmancer trial cause huge fps drops. Everytime you have the perfect score, the game will freeze and the cubes will gangrape you until you lose half of the points.
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>>201934593
>official forums
literally why
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>>201934593
>>201935442
To read up on BRrabbit whiteknight the shit out of IMC against some Sorien fangay with his autism flared full force.
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>>201935005
I get it now! Thanks.
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>Want to make a dps inquisitor that just smashes shit with a big hammer
Is this possible?
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>>201938069
This is Tree of Shinobi, you can't have DPS outside of Shinobi tree.
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>>201938069
Nah, that's not how this game works. Only the strongest DPS of each class exists, and the current strongest Cleric build doesn't use 2h weapons.
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uu~i...
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>>201938746
the base model looks so fucking dumb. the hip to waist ratio is awful
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>>201939069
T H I C C
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>>201939069
>not liking thicc child bearing hips
you gay, son?
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>>201938153
Oh, its the anon who doesn't play the game but likes to parrot the "shinobi is good at everything when you are conjoined at the hip a falconer3 and a chrono3" meme.

>>201938069
Chaplain Inquisitor can carry any 4 random shitters in level 5 CM without any support sluts or good gear. Lets see your shinobi do that.
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>>201939268
>>201939174
56%
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>>201939069
I'm more concerned about the Popeye arms.
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What did you to in ToS today anons?
Trying to find a reason to log in.
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>>201939965
>Lets see your shinobi do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL5R12zU6nk

Wait until we have Doppelnobi and Fencernobi. You'll be able to do it even without whaled gear.
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>>201939268
>>201939174
Not in this type of chibi art style.
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>>201940558
Saalus x6 and started leveling another alt.
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>>201940851
Build?
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>>201940558
Sat in town, said literally nothing, spammed some random skills, logged out.
Im having fun.
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>>201938069
>>201940702
So the real answer to that question is builds don't matter as long as you whale out your character. But if you're a poorfag with a Vien mace and 20m worth of attributes go make a Chap Inqui, its the most cost efficient build in terms of money invested to aoe dps just don't expect to do big dick damage to bosses.
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>>201940943
I'm making a Kino3 to play with the Kino buffs we're getting in 8 months.
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>>201941238
That build is currently broken and does double the amount of hits it should do with auto attacks + daino on wheel.
Already fixed in korea so you still have 3 months of fun.
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>>201941520
Even without that bug, that build does insane damage. There's a ton of videos of that build soloing CM5. I saw a ton of them while looking up swordies soloing CM5. You know what I saw a fuckload more of though? Whale Sorcs literally AFK soloing CM5s, such a fucking joke class.
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>>201942094
True, Inquisitor fire is pretty retarded with that build.
You're still doing double the damage than you should however.
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>>201940558
>logged in
>11x Saalus
>300 dungeon with multiply
>checked if i sold some garbage on market
>logged off
/blog
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boop

>>201942363
>>201942363
>>201942363
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>>201941520
Ahead of the curve, replaced kriv for spr bokor3 but have to wait 3 months for aoe buff to have fun




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