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>Giten Megami Tensei's new partial translation patch for PC-98
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/

>SMT VV Trophy List
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>Vengeance OST scans
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>SMT V & Vengeance sold over 1.6 million copies worldwide
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>Archive of 3DS Texture Packs
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>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks will be available for listening on digital streaming platforms soon
https://twitter.com/Atlus_jp/status/1751077575383040009

>Funny gif featuring amanozako
https://files.catbox.moe/ny95rr.gif

Previous thread: >>485099210
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Metaphor won.
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>reddit.com still in the OP
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>>485264202
I don't click on catboxes. Fix the op
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>>485264512
this is the catbox
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Reposting from last thread.
I'm adding a shit ton of unique skills to the game. I am basically giving one to every demon over lvl 60 but there are a few others below that I want to pol whether or not deserve a unique skill. Of these demons which do you think DESERVE a unique skill?

Cybelle
Queen Medb
Chernobog
Loki
Atavaka
Armaiti
Okuninushi
Hecatonchires
Flauros
Titania
Scathach
Chimera
Ose
Efreet
Pazuzu
Moloch
Belphegor
Dionysus
4 Heavenly Kings
Oyamatsumi
Mad Gasser
Forneus
Hare of Inaba
Quetsalcoatl
Vouivre
Dormarth
Nekomata
High Pixie
Neko Shogun

Black Frost is locked in for definitely getting a unique skill.
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Why is Reddit in the OP instead of a mega link?
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Why the fuck did this boss have a million HP?
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>>485264812
Every fucking demon should have a unique.
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>>485264202
Tao's monke ear
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>>485265238
so fucking ugly
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I'm trying to get CoV Law this time and I can not for the fucking life of me tell what the Law choices are most of the time
I keep going back to Tokyo to check my alignment religiously and it's constantly between Neutral and Chaos, what the actual fuck does Tao want to be told
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>>485265238
This image is very funny
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demon marriage is legal right
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>>485265238
Dios mio....
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>>485265068
Alright bro come up with a unique skill for fucking Orobas.
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>>485265571
>side with Apsaras
>side with Principality
>side with Onyankopon
>side with Kresnik
>side with Futsunushi
It's not that complicated.
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>>485266096
Multi hit attacks gets an extra hit chance. (References to how most games he uses a multihit attack)

When under the effects of a mag skill, this user will double the amount of hits in multi hit attacks (mythology connection to his strength)

Spyglass use is free/Spyglass skill
(Mythological connection to him seeing all of the future and past.)
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>>485266096
Multi-hit attack that hits more depending on your speed buffs/enemy speed debuffs. At max it pierces.
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>>485266401
I'm not going to do sidequests on my 4th run through the game
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>>485266401
he seems to be a moron, its pretty obvious what the law options are
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>>485264512
I keep seeing you post about this. Do you hate fun or something?
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>>485266543
then get fucked, faggot
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>>485266407
I actually dig the spyglass skill idea. It's very easy to implement and gives him a utility niche. Was thinking of giving a similar skill to Pisaca to reference the utility Broker Pisaca from Nocturne.
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>>485267237
Nice. Unique skills don't need to be game breaking, just something that fits.
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>>485264202
Get me sahori or fuck off slut.
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vrooooooom
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>>485266407
>Spyglass use is free/Spyglass skill
they really should've made Detective Pixie join your party after doing that sidequest, with this skill
slap a Sherlock Holmes hat on her and stick a magnifying glass in her hand
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>>485269227
>Detective Pixie outfit
That would be super cute.
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>>485269227
too much effort and if it did get made, it would be DLC. fatlus would never do anything with that much soul for free on a game you're paying 60 dollars for.
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Beeho should have had jack aramasa
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>>485266401
Funny thing is I think none of those except for futsunushi matter, I literally did all except principality and the tokyo icon was neutral until futsunushi
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>>485266401
None of those quests actually shift your alignment in CoV. I was Neutral and wanted to switch to Law at the end for Maria, I did all of them and my alignment did not shift whatsoever.
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>>485270510
Ive been doing them in COV and am still chaos
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>>485270185
>those pale thighs
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Why isn't there a Neutral Route for Vengeance where you fuck both Tao and Yoko at the same time
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>>485272285
because that would be toxic
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>>485272285
Chaotic law where you take tao and yoko
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Was some company making SMT5 keycaps with the Jouin uniform floral pattern or did I dream that up in a schizophrenic stupor
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>>485271315
pausing on the right frame will really drive you mad
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>>485265056
The only one that was confusing to me was the Anansi vs Onyokopon one, since in that one somehow Yoko sided with joining Bethel just because it's a change in status quo, while Tao was against since it'd be an uncertain different future which could disrupt their peace.

Otherwise, choosing to kill demons to save humans, even if the demons don't seem like an immediate threat (like the lilim quest or the Vouivre one) are Tao. And obviously if the demons are a threat, it's Tao too (siding with Kresnik to kill Kudlak, killing Adramelech). In the the Moirae sisters quest, saying fate is a guide is law, while a burden/prison is chaos. If you're still early in Shinjuku, playing dumb and saying the angels can't be behind the salt statues gives you law points.

For main story choices, often saying you have no hope for the world or everything must be rebuilt from ground up is chaos, while whatever is the alternative is law.
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>>485273521
Where are her panties?
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>>485274379
excellent question
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>>485264473
SMTrannies are all redditors who spend half their time on /r/megaten, what's your problem.
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>>485275427
who that on right
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>str scales 1 to 1 until lvl plus 10, where it becomes half + half square root
Worldofstr bros..... What the fuck....
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How does turn priority work in V? I feel like I'm getting ambushed pretty much every encounter, is it the sum of your agility vs. the opponent's? On hard if that matters.
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>>485277428
if the enemy notices you even if you attack it before it touches you it will very likely be an ambush on hard. you need to back attack them when they can't see you.
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Running some numbers to try and find a good balance for a build using Figment Slash and Lunar Hurricane with Crit Zealot which to my knowledge increases crit damage from 1.5 to 1.95. Granted this could be wrong so any extra knowledge is appreciated. Also not sure if the 10% range in damage (-5% to +5%) is any different in VV so just taking it as an average.

>Lunar Hurricane:
>40 MP, 70 pwr, St-based, 3 * user Ag / target Ag hits, 10 hits max
>Zealot: 63 or 136.5

>Figment Slash
>50 MP, 300 pwr, 50% acc, 200% crit
>Zealot: 585 pwr

585/136.5 comes to about 4.2857 crits from LH to match FS. Thankfully a normal, non-crit hit can cover that extra .2857 (38.99 extra damage so a single 63 power base hit works just fine.)

In total, against an enemy with no resistance or weakness to either attack, LH needs at least five hits with four of those being crits to match FS. If six hits land, three need to crit. To keep going to the max of ten hits, it should look something like:
>Five hits (Four crits): 80% crit rate
>Six hits (Three crits): 50% crit rate
>Seven hits (Two crits): 28.5% crit rate
>Eight hits (Two crits): 25% crit rate
>Nine hits (One crit): 11% crit rate
>Ten hits (No crits needed)

Eight hits seems to be the magic shit number since it just barely doesn't hit the 585 mark with only one crit. Again, all this could be bullshit if I forgot something.
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Guest Party members are too strong...
I haven't fused a lot of demons and the Gremlin and Vouivre I recruited are still in my party...
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>>485279090
Lunar hurricane really should have had pierce
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>>485279392
they fell off fast
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>>485279090
>585 power with crit zealot
>Parasene blur is 600 with nothing (only needs impalers for some end game fights)
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>>485264812
This is not exactly what you’re asking, but I feel like some unique moves should be restricted to a handful of demons rather than just one. Like Zaou-Gongen gets Violent Rage and Pandemonic Crush, and I think it’d make sense for Asura as well. Mad Gasser should get Mephisto’s Stagnant Air.
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>>485280636
I'd even work with passives that make each element pierce

>>485280949
Yeah I'm glad we have Paraselene to play with since Figment seemed to be the top boss killer meta in base V. Even Heavenly Ikuyumi is getting in on the Demifiend abuse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTjvDAZQ-zA
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>>485282104
I think that kind of defeats the purpose of what I'm trying to do. I want Zaou-Gongen and Asura to be good at different things not the same thing. For example Zaou's unique skills are AOE so I would make Asura single target focused. Probably gonna give him Slaughter All from Dx2 which is a str scaling single target almighty nuke with a high crit rate. Basically giga Freikugal.
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>>485274312
Yoko is generally for demons/people who want to change their lot in life
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>>485283331
Yeah, but with the Anansi quest it feels odd when the change in this case is joining an organization she hates.
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>>485283581
Anansi is still taking charge of his life and that's what matters to Yoko
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>>485283581
anasi is doing it through trickery and going agianst the old ways of his father, His father basically explains that if people aren't worshipping them anymore than they should just fade away because "thats just how things are", which in this case is very much a law mindset
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According to the Steam cheevos like 80% of people that have gotten an ending have also beaten Demifiend
Does everyone just download Safety or some shit?
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>>485284031
Wasn't that was Dagda wanted?
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>>485285438
Yes, but dagda is a suicidal weirdo of a god in smt
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>>485285438
Kinda, but Dagda wants it in the way that they are still worshiped and more powerful than ever.
He wants the gods to return to their most primordial and "complete" forms, not the reduced physical state they are all in.
What the African midget is okay with is them all disappearing and fading into the elements themselves.
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>>485274379
in my stomach
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You are mixing up what Dagda wanted with what Krishna wanted.
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>>485286846
meant for>>485286000
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>>485286846
>>485286998
It's been a decade since I played IVA, I guess I'm mixing shit up then?
I don't remember Dagda wanting for everyone to just fade away into nothingness at all though.
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>>485287243
Dagda is anti-groupthink. He hates gods and religion because it makes humans not think for themselves. Dagda wanting to fade away is very on brand considering he hates what he is. In the world he creates with Nanashi humans are their own gods free to think for themselves without external influence. Because of this Dagda returns to nature because humans no longer view him as a god.
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>>485287243
He wanted to be free from human observation.
And he wanted to do that by evolving humans into gods themselves.
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>>485287243
>I don't remember Dagda wanting for everyone to just fade away into nothingness at all though.
That is his goal and what happens in the Anarchy ending. His original form was elements of nature and his Dagda form was imposed on him by human observation and he wanted to be freed from that prison of observation, even if it means just fading into nature elements again.

You can see him fading out in the Anarchy ending and saying he'll watch over Nanashi, but just as part of the universe itself.
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the invincible manlet
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>reach Chiyoda in CoC Hard
>game becomes an almost unbearable slog
I feel like I'm missing something with fusion because my demons do absolute shit damage while enemies just rape my whole party in one or two moves in basic encounters.
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>>485288646
Gaea rage bait
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>>485289010
why are u gaea
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>>485288646
If you want a tank you should use the stupid elephant
It's kinda funny seeing superbosses take 10k reflect damage ending their turn
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>>485289159
>tits
off model
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>>485264202
wheres the neocities link?
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>>485289159
>tfw he likes the grindan game
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>>485290417
Anon...Neo-kun, he....
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>>485290794
if this wasn't domosan you would not have been able to convince me this wasn't commissioned by TTWfag
YHVH bless his autism
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>>485290986
Bless domosan with the TTW content that he randomly makes off the cuff
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I miss demon weapons
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Idun's dressing to stay cool this summer!
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i have the dlc but i want to organically grind beano to 99, whats the best way to do this?
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>>485292126
I miss sword fusion
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do guests takes up space in my demon group?
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>>485264812
Give something like megido flame or Heliopolis dawn to Vishnu. I feel we lack a good piercing unique wind skill. He used to be my main late game wind demon in p5 lol
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>>485293237
If you do the sidequests you will end up in the mid-80s by the time you are at the endgame.
At that point if you want to get to 99 it's only an hour or two of grinding without the DLC.

The DLC is mostly interesting for leveling dozens of low level demons up to 99 if that's something you are into.
Everything else will happen over time as you play the game and do NG+ anyways.
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>>485293459
Vishnu's proficiencies are light, dark, and healing in V. I could do a piercing light or dark skill but I think I'm gonna give him the opposite of Shiva. So instead of an aoe damage skill that gives -4 defense. An aoe heal skill that gives +4 defense.
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>>485294240
Should be +4 attack
>Shiva drops def to max
>Vishnu boosts attack to max
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I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
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>>485294402
Vishnu is a preserver. Shiva is a destroyer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-C2n5lrLfc
i went dark in the lead up to vengeance because of spoilers and just saw this
holy fuck lmao
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>gets a different dialogue with Attis if Cybele's in the group
huh, cool
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>>485294617
>censorship
this word lost its meaning
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>Game crashed FOR
Gotta rush through the intro and the first area all over again
FUCK
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>>485292363
prprprprprpr
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>>485294617
So called free thinkers when a mod requires Reloaded II to run
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>>485295748
If you actually played Vanilla, you'd know he's right.
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>>485292363
that's a man
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>>485265238
Why are all of them so fat?
I guess they're Americans?
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>>485299765
The hell are you on about? There were no Demon Haunts in Vanilla, and therefore no free cam.
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>>485265571
It's odd, I was swinging Chaos at the beginning of Taito, literally the only significant choice I can think of I made was siding with Futsunushi against Aldramech after which I was swinging Neutral.

Then by the time I finished the Empyrean I was so Law I wasn't even given the choice between Tao or Yoko. So god fucking knows HOW you gain alignment in this game because there aren't many choices in Taito and most side quest have answers that aren't indicative of Alignment and if there were I am sure I didn't chose a lawful answer every tjme.
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>>485299765
V didn't even have any content, let alone get censored. Unless you count the wind tunnels
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>>485301542
Yeah pretty sure only futsunushi and gay horse matters
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On one hand, I feel dirty for cheesing the demifiend

On the other it felt quite good to kill him in a single turn.
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>>485302234
There's no difference between following a ready made strategy and switching to Casual, you cheated yourself either way.
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how do i get seth to attack me in minato?
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>>485301952
In SMT IV, doing story mandatory quests gave you a lot of Law points, which made people very confused as to how alignment was determined.

What I fear is that either mandatory story progression tosses you towards law in Taito or completing certain side quests regardless of the choices also shifts you towards Law or Chaos.
The game is on PC so someone could look into Alignment more in depth.
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>>485302386
You come back later and u lock a new area where you can fight him
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demifiend more like demifail lmao
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>>485293319
Persona 5 has demon weapons kinda
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>>485302337
To be fair, I feel I've been cheating the moment I saved up the gospels all the game and dumped them all on the Nahobino after Aogami returns. It gave me that Shounen power up sensarion but jumping from level 82 to 97 pretty much killed the game. Not that it had mattered much either because you break the level limit, too

Kinda wish the endgame was a bit more nuanced.
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>>485302792
You can't break the level limit until after you've killed Satan, who most people would say is a harder fight than Demi-fiend.
If you cheated that one too then it's again your own fault, you ruined the best fights in the game for yourself.
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I wanna gently hold Raidou's hand

>>485294512
And this too of course
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All that is left is masakado, demifiend and satan.
Who should I fight first?
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I don't have the DLCs, how do I get rich?
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monkeysex
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>>485303262
Spam Challenge Battles in the Virtual Training thing. You get more and more Macca every clear, after a while you will quickly be approaching a mil every clear.
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>>485303348
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>>485303262
>>485303401
the one where you fight the empyrean angles is the best one i've found
the 4 bosses one that starts with metatron
also remember to use the maga skill that doubles macca
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>>485301930
That's what I'm saying, VV is censored compared to Vanilla.
I'm grateful to the modding community for the mod.
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>>485304431
You can't censor anything if the game itself has no content in it (either to play or to censor)
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>>485304518
>V has no content, it can't be censored
>VV has no content either, it can't be censored
Faggot
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>>485304942
I mean, the whole thing is open world and there's barely any story.
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>>485304997
monkey
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>>485304997
It's not open world and SMT is a gameplay focused serie.
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>>485304997
This is no open world
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I would open amanozako's world
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>>485303857
what is she hearing with that massive ear?
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Any based mods yet?
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Yoko mumbling how much she hates cars under her breath.
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>>485304431
I have no idea what you're on, but VV has censored only ONE thing. Which was removing Tao's white panties and replacing them with a shadow texture like the rest of the female characters (Yoko, Shuwuu, Miyazu, Demeter, etc.). Even then, you couldn't even see her panties in OG V due to a rock being in the way. So they really didn't censor anything besides that, especially when the game is the most lighthearted mainline entry in the series since it's catering to young teenagers.
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>>485308021
The vanishing distance of some female demons when you get close to them with the camera is much bigger in VV than it was in V.
The whole thing is also kind of wonky because it's clearly coded to only do that in specific situations (which make the entire thing inconsistent) and the modder who made the VV mod to remove those """limitations""" said that there's hundreds of lines that weren't there when he used to mod Vanilla.
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>>485308508
It's probably also the reason why people are saying that VV performs better on the switch than V. One of the first things that pokemon did was rather than do anything functional was fuck with the draw distance.
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given enough time and more budget do you think they should have had a new area instead of Taito in CoV?
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>>485308973
Draw distance is about things that are fat away, not very close to you.
When the only thing you have to display is Pixie's ass, there's no loss in performance you fucking retard.
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>>485309297
There is, the more things that they have on the screen of course the worse the performance is. Not to mention that the first switch 1.01 patch for SMT V was to downgrade the resolution of the game to improve performance and they only included the switch bonuses because they knew that people are going to complain about the performance again. Anyway, it says a lot about the fact that Metaphor is not coming to the switch and then you'll have all the camera you want.
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>>485309546
Except the camera changes are almost certainly there because of snoy, this is a very common method of censorship for them and it happen even on games that are not on switch.
>There is, the more things that they have on the screen of course the worse the performance is
Did you even bother reading the last line of my previous post?
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>>485309220
I think if they were given more time and budget they'd have given Law and Chaos completely unique fourth acts and not just rehashed the final stretch of CoC. They had a whole area designed for the fight against Tiamat and Tehom except there's nothing in it other than a terminal and the boss fight.
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So when can we expect SMT VI?
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>>485309907
It's known that the files and code and assets between all the platforms are exactly the same which is why mods that work on steam also work on the emulator which also work on the consoles and the decrypted save files that are on switch are identical to the ones on steam which are identical to the files on PS4. This specific game has been definitely downgraded specifically because the switch is the perf bottleneck.
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>>485283331
>>485274312
Yoko is a fucking schizo. Killing Jack Frost and letting the student die to Vouivre are Chaos choices, but then in the Demeter quest she spergs out if you say "sacrifices are necessary" and somehow looks dumb and is left dumbfounded by Tao's surprisingly smart reply.
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>>485310176
6/7 years.
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>>485310264
You're still not addressing any of my points.
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Yoko seems happy if you side with Kresnik over Kudlac (Tao is happy too) even if it gives you Law points because siding with obvious bad guy Kudlac would be dumb.
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>>485310440
That's because the game doesn't expect you to actually select those edgy choices. You're expected to do the right thing and not be a asshole, no different from Apocalypse does.
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>>485309220
You can mostly tell that they really needed to allocate more budget to giving areas a more distinct look (a lot of the assets like buildings/cars/roads etc get reused and the assets really gives the game a kitbashed look), The routes lack distinction from each other and are very samey, exactly the same locations give or take the colour of the sand and the atmospheric fog/lighting. The game can definitely use more fleshing out of story and pre-rendered scenes.

Finally, I think that while there aren't any super obvious bugs, they definitely need to work on focus on code performance in their next releases. It's not a good look for sales when your game runs better on an emulator pirated than the original hardware. VV definitely performs better but the frame dips are definitely noticeable.
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>>485311247
is it frame dipping on PC too?
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>>485311362
pc is fine
but I guess you lose performance to D*nuvo
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>>485311247
>your game runs better on an emulator pirated than the original hardware
But this is the case for literally every Switch game.
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>>485311247
>>485311585
This, Switch being a shitty spec system has nothing to do with Atlus, Nintendo needs to make a good platform for once.
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>>485311681
All Nintendo needs to do is bump up the specs on the Switch 2 and games will no longer have performance problems and emulation will also be impossible.
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>>485308984
>spin
>spin
>spin
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>>485311681
>Nintendo needs to make a good platform for once.
They don't need to as shown what happened to the N64, GameCube, and Wii U.
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>>485310264
NTA but no, while it's mostly true, some mods still need to be converted to VV, there's even tutos on gamebanana that explain how to do it when it's not too difficult to do.
As for the camera mod, the modder specifically state in the description of the mod that he had to write a script to remove thousands of code lines that were newly added.
The VV editor cannot work on V too even if you only modify things that were already there in V, so that's more proof that the code is not exactly same.
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>>485311898
The mods are interoperable between different platforms of VV, though, because they have the same file structure. That's why DeathChaos put the mods in Reloaded II rather than putting it into a pak like the other mods, it's to make sure that it can only be used on steam, ie by people who pay money.

The steam version will even pick up V switch saves.

V -> VV it's understood that a lot of stuff will be changed.
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Does anyone have any fanart or even fanfiction of V-kun fusing with Nuwa? I swear there was some back around 2022 but I can't find any atm
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>>485277428
>Attack an enemy without them noticing you player advantage
>enemy triggers fight with their field attack enemy advantage
>You manage to whack alert enemy determined by a roll based on your agility stat
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from what i understand the strange journey redux neutral route is bad, right? usually i go with the route that has the best bosses and what not, is law good enough?
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>>485316252
Neutral is the hardest route in og, haven't played redux so I can't say.
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>>485316252
what gave you that impression
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>>485316761
everyone talks shit about redux all the time, im assuming the new route is the neutral one.

>>485316515
i might or might not do neutral, if it requires you to work for it like 4, then, i might just give up on neutral. i wasn't a big fan of staring at some guide through my whole playthrough just to get neutral in 4.
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>>485316252
Correct. It's bad because Law is always the objectively correct choice and benefits all of humanity, this goes for every game in series btw.
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>>485317132
yeah but that isn't about the endings themselves, more the narrative content and art direction. Neutral is fine enough, but if you really care you should play the original
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>>485317138
t. Mastema-kun
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>>485317138
>objectively correct choice and benefits all of humanity
>by turning them all into mindless collectivist drones, essentially no longer human
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>>485319174
you have to destroy humanity to save humanity
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I want a mod which drastically increase the spawn rate of the magatsuhi demons. These fights are fun!
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>>485319926
fine but to be balanced they give only normal xp
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>>485316252
Yeah,humanity never evolves in that route and are babysit by godlike being forever, nearly a law ending desu
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>Tao had plain white panties
What would Yoko's panties be?
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>>485275542
Holy bVASED. smtkeks pershiiitnafags and shut survivor btfo. Pokemon literally OWNS thier anuses.
>>485311801
Nah, they can bump it up as much as they want but there will always be an autist with too much time on his hands to abandon emulation. That or crypto.
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>>485322128
Black lace panties.
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>>485322128
frilly white with jack frost motif
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>>485322128
panties with car designs on it
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>>485322389
Modders could be so awesome rn
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thoughts on smt6's characters?
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>>485324860
finally a decent looking mc
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I just finished the Vouivre quest
Should I have let the simp die or should I have killed Vouivre?
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Demon for this feeling?
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>>485324860
Guy on the left gives me Walter vibes
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>>485326283
>literal groomer
Uhhh, Koshimizubros???
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>>485326283
How does Koshimizu feel about Beano fucking Yoko instead of his pre prepared wife for him?
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>>485326283
wtf i didnt know he was based
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Why doesn't Tao and Goko fight us in Yoko route?
Would've been better than Tiamat getting highjacked
Tao would've also been a player punch like how you kill Isabeau in SMT IV
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>>485327537
Running out of money I guess...
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>>485324860
>Actual normal art from Doi
What the fuck happened from Trauma Team to Apocalypse that made Doi be obsessed with swirly toku designs
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>>485327537
>Waaah why isn't every character just a boss you power through

Sometimes a character isn't a combat type. Tiamat is the boss because she is thematically appropriate, Mastema is the boss because he's the villain.
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>>485325159
I let the simp die/sided with voivire as i was doing Chaos thinking for yoko.
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>>485328006
What exactly is thematically appropriate about fighting tiamat in the chaos route
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>>485327972
It wasn't doi it was higher ups that told himt o do designs like that
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tao should have bigger tits
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>>485328720
Mod it in anon
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>>485328720
this but with yoko
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>>485329303
i would if someone taught me how to edit the models
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>>485330108
Holy Fuck shes hideous.
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>>485330319
OH M GOD IM CUMMING
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>>485328720
you mean smaller
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>>485330319
ENHANCE
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>>485330108
I genuinely don't understand who gets off to stuff like this
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Where can I find a proper table of the skills' damage values?
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>>485330597
You don't understand how people get off to images of girls with big tits?
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>>485330695
There's big tits and there's "my brain has rotted away from porn" big tits. It's not just that though, the rest of the proportions are fucking hideous too
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>>485330597
americans maybe
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Why are there so many friendly Moh Shuuwuu in Chiyoda? Every non quest NPC is a Moh Shuuwuu
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>>485330597
i'm not a fan of that style in particular but sometimes i do get in the mood for ridiculous proportions
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>>485331138
Developer bias
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>>485331173
I can understand that at the end of the day since it's not real and heavily stylized, but some shit is just so off-putting and utterly ridiculous even if I suspend my disbelief
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>>485331373
well at that point it's just a very personal thing and you're not gonna understand why something arouses some people unless it also arouses you
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>>485331138
Apparently the V staff are huge fans of her, so she appears in the first three areas of the game and is one of the rare few demons that will chase after the player regardless of level. Also in VV they gave her own theme and unique skill.
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UOOHH
BIRB
PANTSU
PANTYHOSE
CUUNNNNYYY
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>>485331871
Human sexuality is retarded and everyone should like what I like
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>>485332105
Reddit bird
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>>485332187
>>485330319
Redditprojectingnigger zoomer
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Which demon is the 4chan bird
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>>485332294
Aitvaras
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>>485331950
>doubled down on Moh Shuuwuu
>game get better
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>>485332350
>pokemon
reddit post and actual loli hating projecting pedo
>>485332294
birb
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>>485332350
at least choose one that looks more like a digimon since pokemon is retarded
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>>485331871
I want to fuck asahi
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>>485332674
>digimon
baihu is the only looking digimon
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>>485332563
>>485332674
4chan alignment rep uses him
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>>485330813
>my brain has rotted away from porn
thats the audience for those types of drawings, I would argue you would have to be EVEN more porn-rotted for you to not find drawings like that attractive, it would assume that you've built some dignity/elitism over pornography
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>>485332753
dunno metraton and robot lucifer look like something i wold see in digimon too
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>>485332825
say it to her face, little boy
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Yoko needs correction
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how come mothman got a unique skill
it doesn't really have much of an animation but still
i didn't really consider mothman an iconic demon
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>>485333127
Reddit bird
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>>485333125
hayataro is a digivolve level 2 candidate as well
but
>metraton
lmao no
>lucifer
nooope
smt5 satan is a good candidate for digimon level 4 digivolve
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>>485333337
You know how Mothman is popular in the western side of the megaten community due to how goofy he looks? That's why he received a unique skill.
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>>485333502
tantrum throwing faggot
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>>485333631
is he popular? were people posting around some memes i didn't see or something
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>>485333631
He's also based on an American cryptid so yeah he's going to be popular
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Man VV is such a fucking piece of garbage
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>>485333778
we know, avery
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why did they turned it into an autobattler? man smtvv is a piece of trash
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>>485333778
I've found something more garbage! your mum's roasted buffalo wings[spoiler/]
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>>485333897
hey oshimai!
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Shuwuu won.
Metaphor lost.
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>>485334102
You are now starting to make sense, you spend the entire day among other people you can sort of differentiate and you think i'm one of the niggercattle

Almost as sad and pathetic as SMTVV. Is the real oshimai poster in here? Or is that your quirky line

I AM THE SUN
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>>485334396
you're!
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Does she lay eggs or does she get pregnant
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>>485334634
Holy shit you are a tranny aint'cha?

hahahAHHAHAHAHA

Hey, man, suicide when?
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>>485334673
isn't she like birb??
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Are the walls here? with us? This place is fucking dead isn't it?

Are you guys already playing it as an autobattler or not? Still pretending that it requires human input?
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what the fuck am I reading
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>>485334846
oshimaitranny spergout
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Bro i was going to die and Nahobina teleported to the Leylina and now i live so i chopped my dick off and became a woman
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Man that was a close call but then i realize it i can simply skip the entire map because VV has no level design

Nahobina teleported to the leyline and chopped his dick off to become immortal like the sun, what a weird decision from the developers at persona studio
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whoa this place is dead than tyrone crusty asshole nigga that's

expected

LOL

The AI garbage game that is VV killed the franchise, what a way to go
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New schizo psyop just dropped.
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so what's deadererer ? This garbage general with no good games for at least a decade or /eog/?

I'm guessing it's this one , the raping of a franchise must've been gruesome
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>>485335910
Is that jack frosty? Bruh BRUH i love the demons they turly are the core of SMT

BRUH jack frosty is my favorite one, BREH i love demons

and i can get one at the SMTVV costco for free?

BRUH BRHE BRAH now that's bussing
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Not having fun with VV rn, maybe its because im trying to fight demifiend and keep dying because im bad but i think im just going to finish the game and then fuck off. I've had a lot of fun by now, but now im hating the game.
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>>485336236
ONE MORE CASUAL FILTERED
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>I like the game when i can autobattle everything
>that's pog
>I don't like the game when the shitty design just kicks my ass cause i'm not cheesing the obviously overturned boss cause you can't have a well made game design that's also open world

>BUT BREH I WANT ALL THE DEMONS AND SKILLS

NIGGA THATS CRAZY
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>>485336181
Holy fuck you nigger go back to /v/
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Bruh BREH i love having all the demons and all the skills whenever i want , i love dilating to the OST musi................WHAT WHAT THE LE FUCK

AN OVERTUNED BOSS DESIGNED AROUND CHEESING HIM>!?!??! WHAT THE LE FUCK DUDE TYRONE NO THIS IS NO LE OK
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>>485336181
You are a sad sad little man. Instead of being productive you wish for nothing more than to be an annoying shit because you crave the attention that your parents didn’t provide for you in your formative years. It’s okay, I understand. I mean my own parents are proud of me but I understand that you are the kind of child your family changes the subject on if brought up. It’s okay, you can be saved. Just go outside, touch grass, and maybe you’ll feel more content instead of shitting up a thread.
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>>485336810
din not read the

schizo yap
schizo yapping
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Whoa this palce really is dead as fuck

i'm guessing VV was htat bad huh? Open world, shitty demons, shitty story, persona romances.

What is even the point of keeping this garbage thread alive? Hey trannywu

hahah oh wow

Tranny WU

i remember that gal

And then Nahobina insta saved and teleported to the leylina
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>>485337220
me when i hear another tranny song from VV
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dead thread
dead site

it almost makes me want to be productive

i am productive!
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i was going to make a nahobina joke about instant saving

then i remember that the thread is as dead as the IP
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>>485332563
>>485334963
>>485334673
>>485334634
>>485333683
Reddit Bird
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Let's talk about Metaphor to liven this place up
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You could have searched with Bing and gotten a free amazon gift card to spend on Jack Frost Merch instead of shitposting here.
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What's the significance of yellow eyes?
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>>485339152
brainrot
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>>485339159
Persona 5
EO NEXT raped

Dead hopes

Dogshit company
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>>485339160
Omg bro i love jack frosty.

Where can i buy japanese merch? BRUH the demons are the core of SMT and i LOVE JACK FROSTY
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>>485337220
>>485339160
reddit snowman
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>>485339398
>Hashino makes use of people from dead/failed series
Based! He's got Raidou guys on board too
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>>485339695
300% percent it was going to be EO NEXT back when it started

Then some CEO went

"WHAT THE LE FUCK THIS IS NOT PERSONA"

F
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Mastema should be in every game
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Backseat car sex with Yoko
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>>485339915
Does yoko know that people have died in the backseat of cars?!!!
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>>485339773
Nobody gives a shit about the pedo shit that is EO. The EO collection sold less than SH2
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>>485339915
The thrill of dying in a car with Yoko
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>>485340004
That's a good thing, good games deserve to be protected or you end up with retards like this >>485339774
that don't really understand the games
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>>485339206
Nanashi's eye color changes when Dagda revives him, same goes for the new portraits of the SJ protag. a sort of "transcended human" thing. it's in the cover of P1 and P2 too
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>>485340004
As a SH2 fag, it feels good to watch EO & TWEWY NEO crash and burn as both franchises sold way worse with no chance of ever coming back
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Is another Vesk breakdown coming soon?
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>do samael quest
>he says lucifer was the one to make the nahobino a reality
wait what
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>>485340586
Anon, Lucifer killed YHVH and lifted the Condemnation he put in place which forbid Nahobino
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>>485340586
Yes...? That was in the OG as well.
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>>485340586
he made aogami horny for V kun
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You might have stopped namefagging, but you're still a faggot.
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>>485340514
Wasn't TWEWY NEO considered a good sequel and EO still remains as peak JRPG combat?

I don't see the problem. better dead than a failure of a game like VV.
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>485340919
>Trying to bring twitter drama into /smtg/
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>>485330813
that's exactly the appeal, past some point nothing stimulates something if it's not an exaggerated of something
for some people the fact that it looks abhorrent is the appeal, disgust and sexual arousal sometimes stem from the same place
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What would married life with Yoko be like?
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>>485341145
>EO still remains as peak JRPG combat
It's pretty standard and it does it well but I wouldn't call it peak.
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>>485341503
Daily costco travels with my terrible written and horrendous dialogue persona 5 waifu
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>>485341512
Yeah but your opinion doesn't matter.

Press turn hasn't changed since Nocturne and VV stream lines it so much that it loses a lot of what made press turn fun, you can autobattle every single non-boss enemy in VV making it a SLOG of a game and the bosses end up being so overtuned for the same reason, so you end up cheesing them like Elden Trash bosses

EO is peak JRPG, it's peak ultima, it's peak DnD, it's complex, simple and beautiful at the same time.

And then they added grimoires.
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>overtuned bosses
>VV
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>>485342134
You don't think the last bosses are giga overtuned? Or is this another shitty brazilian cope for his small intellect.
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>>485342227
How are we defining overtuned? There's like one boss with health bloat outside of superbosses, but everything else is fine and the game is pretty damn easy even on hard. Bosses aren't challenging enough to where they need to be cheesed unless you just fucking suck.
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for some reason Tsukibino and Nanashi have similar edgy vibes does anyone agree
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>>485342575
>How are we defining overtuned?

Yeah not reading your yap , go teleport to a layline sister and insta save
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>>485342694
I accept your concession, schizo-kun.
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another shitty brazilian cope for his small intellect.
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i want to pity fuck yuzuru
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>>485342965
What would Yuzuru feel if he saw PM fusing with Bean?
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>>485342965
but he's made for PM dick and no other
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>>485342578
tsukibino is justified since he's lost pretty much everyone
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>>485342965
As if, good looking people are not into faggots or fat women.
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>>485342227
The only "overtuned" bosses are the three superbosses - Demifiend, Masakado, and Satan.
I don't see what else you could possibly consider overtuned in VV, even Shiva feels very fair and doesn't require any particular prep with the level difference not mattering much anymore now.
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...what is he blushing for?
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>>485343283
tsukibino is mournful too, but Nanashi is 1000% pure unadulterated edge for the sake of it
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>>485342578
Not really.
Though he does look more masculine.
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>>485343659
hahaha faggots are delusional

faulty brain wires
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>>485341503
Annoying takes every hour but great sex and genuinely likes you.
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>>485343541
He wants to fuck Asahi behind Nanashi's back
He even punched Gaston when he was shitting on her
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is this bugged? I can't seem to find the location of that Miman. I guess its a cave? But where is the entrance?
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>>485343860
but does he blush for Asahi? no he doesn't
he's gay for nanashi
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>>485343975
Go northeast near where the tracks begin
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Tsukibino has baggier pants than Aobino
He looks like a ninja
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>>485343443
I have seen some people complain about true lucy at lower levels too, but honestly I did him at a lower level as well and while he was a massive bitch to deal with I hsd a very unoptimized team against him.
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>>485343467
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>>485343659
Booba chest
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>>485344079
thanks!
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>>485341942
>Yeah but your opinion doesn't matter.
As opposed to yours?
>Press turn hasn't changed since Nocturne and VV stream lines it so much that it loses a lot of what made press turn fun
Either it hasn't changed or it got streamlined and thus changed.
>you can autobattle every single non-boss enemy in V
But you can't.
>and the bosses end up being so overtuned for the same reason
Only the 3 superbosses are, in fact, VV is considered easy because everyone else is playing fair.
>EO is peak JRPG, it's peak ultima, it's peak DnD
So you complain about the press turn system being basically unchanged (or not because you can't decide) but EO get a pass despite staying the same too?
Also you never played Ultima nor D&D.
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>>485344447
So it wasn't just me that he looked more muscular in his moonbeano form?
I felt like he had broader shoulders more pronounced pecs and biceps in that form.
Which made him look less like a faggy to me.
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Big penis got my whole squad; only narrowly beat him with ice gems
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>>485344862
My Mermaid did a number on him and lived to tell the tale!
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>>485344862
>No Sarasvati
Nigga what are you doing?
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>>485344737
Handcrafting your demons doesn't mean the press turn gameplay has changed. Not reading the rest.
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>>485344862
Yeah he is a real fucking bitch if you fight him as soon as you encounter him.
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>>485345082
>Handcrafting your demons doesn't mean the press turn gameplay has changed
Which is something neither of us mention anywhere.
>Not reading the rest.
Not surprised, I doubt you even played EO either.
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>>485345082
You don't seem to read anyone who disagrees with you or you dismiss them as some boogeyman who lives in your head
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isabutt
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>>485345270
Would you waste your time trying to teach a dog the intricacies of press turn and why it hasn’t changed in the slightest since nocturne ? Yeah me either
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>>485345158
Is it as bad as fighting the tree cunt and the norse bird from those Shinjuku domains in IV as soon as you get there?
>>485345487
I believe this is after she had witnessed Flynn getting a Lilim to join his party?
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>>485345765
It has changed though... Try to pass your turn in Nocturne when you have a blinking turn icon and tell me what happens compared to newer games.
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>>485344128
If you beat Shiva there's no reason you shouldn't be able to deal with True Lucifer. They are pretty equal.
If you are really struggling the game also gives you the option to just fight the normal version, so it's not like you "have" to beat him.
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>>485345907
I don't the birb, but I had an easier time with erlkonig.
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>>485346607
I already beat him, but I had a harder time against him than shiva.
I beat shiva at level 80 a nucifer at 83.
My team probably would have fared way better if I slapped more elemental drains and repels on them.
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>>485346607
>>485347101
I think the issue with Luci would mainly be not having the burst damage for the Morning Star.
Outside of the superbosses it's the only real damage check in the game, you can turtle and play slowly everywhere else.
So you can have a very defensive strategy that slowly but surely makes everything including Shiva your bitch, but then you get walled by Luci since you keep getting stuck in a loop of Morning Star killing your entire party with little you can do outside of changing your entire setup
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>>485348119
That also, but shield of god got me through it.
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>>485348560
oh hey, one of YHWH's avatars.
Makes me wonder, why weren't they in IV:A?
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I miss the tranobino/peDoi/Doitard schizo...
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I just completed my first cycle on Vengeance, what are the scenes/dialogues I should watch/read in Creation NG+ or should I just skip everything?
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>>485349392
why? he never left
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>>485348560
Is there some kind of shader that would make the ball of light not look like shit?
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boy would you look at those abysmal views on metaphor daily videos this game is not gonna sell well in japan
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>>485349402
If you played V then there's really nothing new outside Chiyoda sidequests and Aogami bench dialogue
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>>485350109
Only mentally ill westoids care about the game
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The Phantom Society were responsible for the assassination of Franz Ferdinand
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>>485350971
I hope it does okay
amazon preorders aren't bad but still not being on switch kinda kills it
but if it's a switch 2 launch title it's gonna do amazing numbers hopefully atlus is smart enough to do that
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>>485350109
They spoiled too much recently about the overall plot.
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smt but with a saga glimmer system y/n
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>>485351363
I wouldn't wanna watch it either I want to go in blind
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>>485351273
They thought TMS was worth porting to Switch so I can see Metaphor and SH2 coming to Switch 2
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>>485351550
that's more or less why IV sold so well, it came out when 3DS was new and there wasn't that many rpgs on it. same goes for Trauma center. also it might explain the graphics
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>>485340514
>As a SH2 fag
I would insult you but that kind of existence is already sad enough.
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>>485351494
Apparently the first video only has 18k views, and it's all discussion on the new VA for the protag, saying some people like it and some don't. Also it's the same people commenting on the videos, so overall less and less people are interested with each one instead of it expanding to others. Comparing it with SMTVV, the lowest view counts are around 20-40k views. The EO remaster videos got around 25k views each on the lower end ones. Right now Metaphor's daily videos are getting as much traction as most of SH2's daily ones. Actually less, since SH2's first daily video was Jack Frost at 50k views.
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bro what kind of absolute failure of an atlus fans wants to play Metephor

dude get a grip

the phantom thieves are not your friends
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>>485353046
Put your name back on for filtering purposes
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>>485353234
i would never
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>>485352857
V's vidoes had Sugita reading demon compendiums for you, it's really not hard to understand why they were popular
speaking of I thought atlus kept Sugita in their basement why isn't he on metaphor
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how do i turn this on
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>>485349658
Yes
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>>485353502
HOLY FUCK YOUR NAME IS HILLARIOUS
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>>485352857
FUCKING KEK
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>>485355152
THANKS FRIEND
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the samefaggotry is off the charts
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>>485340514
>EO crash and burn
I'd agree but I can't in good faith believe anyone at Atlus would sit down, see the marketing model for the EO remakes, not Untold but the original EO 1, 2 and 3 for the DS, and think "yes, this will sell millions, the franchise is saved".

It's so retarded on so many levels, starting with the fucking price tag.
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>>485357473
I think the pricing alone fucked them entirely. Even now, the game ON SALE is selling for what it should sell at normal price.
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>>485357473
>>485357936
Absolutely agreed on the pricing. I love those games and would absolutely get them on Steam, but not for 40$ a piece. Even the 20$ on sale right now feels like a bit much.
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>>485357936
sega is retarded and bankrupt but there's still 3 teams in the studio. I don't imagine they stopped or started anything based on the sales of the HD collection. just like how if Nocturne HD hypothetically sold bad it couldn't have stopped V's development. it's possible Next Stage is stuck in the same dev hell as V but I think it's more than likely a project they're still working on.

Also I don't think the HD collection was straight up a failure to the point studio managers even talked about being taught a lesson with and effecting overall plans for the studio like SH2 was. sega said they were expecting more but it was never as bad as SH2.
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>>485324860
Since this is more or less the non-Persona Atlus general, which Trauma Center game should one start with? The DS or the Wii one?
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>>485359932
DS
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>>485357936
>>485358124
Also the fact that they didn't port Untold for 1 and 2. Even if you wanted to be anal about the original experience even Untold themselves give you the choice to play the game as intended you can always just let the players choose OG or story.

How in the world are they asking $40 for a port of an inferior version of two games is beyond me.

>>485359079
The funny thing is that SH2 was developes in the same spirit as SH1. As in to the developers perspective SH2 is in a modern context what SH1 was back in the context of 1997.

What they don't understand is that the fans wanted what SH1 is in the context of mid~late 2010, which is an ethereal window at this liminal period of technology where it was still blossoming and hardly understood.

And honestly a Raidou Kuzuha 3 would've been a bit better imo. I'd love to see Goutou and 2020's Raidou
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>>485360793
people have had this conversation a billion times over but I just don't think it does a good enough job with the things it wants to modernize, the effort is completely wasted.

Ishida said it himself, there were people in the studio who told him the game shouldn't be released like that but at the end of the day I think he just didn't care or didn't have faith in the core fans of the series to care about their demands for the game to turn out like this. there is at least some audience for EO, there's absolutely non for SH2.
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>>485348723
Because the game was poorly written
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>>485350109
People probably don't want to be spoiled too much. On average the Metaphor trailers have more views than V/Vengance trailers
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>>485361614
I hope they keep the human companions from V and let you fully customize them
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imagine not playing SMT and still hanging around every single smt threadl. mental illness.
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My youtube feed feels the need to show me videos from literal who channels cheesing superbosses in VV the same way everyone else does every single god damn day. Just make it stop.
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>>485370298
Just clear your cookies
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>>485370964
No Alice-chan
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We won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQlbgmx5ok
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>>485370298
Nahobeeho strategize magatsuhi i swap the demons with tinnate skills that make mine shitty and i use arahahabki to stat match then i switch to amanozako which reverses the aeffects and turns me to max level 2 ranks then turns satan into max level 2 deranks then i switch to arioch where i would use figment slash so i can kill satun in 4 turns, did i mention that 15 of my demons are dead so that i can boost the amount of damage of arioch with his innate skill?
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>>485371158
wtf is this about?
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>>485371373
>Accolades Trailer
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>>485368181
They can always do something like humans are customisable while demons are more limited and need to rely on fusions to be tuned.
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>>485371594
they can have them join you with their own will but if they leave it's panagia Tao all over again
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>>485371158
wonder what's the sales number currently
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>>485372180
Can't be that much higher from the last time. Current amazon sales on PS5 are below metaslop
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>>485372561
in west? where did you get that?
https://nichebarrier.com/amazon
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>>485372773
https://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/20972797011/
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>>485372574
Mermaid...
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Tokyo Tower Witch futa?
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Futa tokyo tower witch?
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>>485350109
It's not on Switch, so of course it won't do well in Japan. Nip PS4/5 owners only play Apex, Genshin and other GAAS.
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Replacing diarama right?
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>>485374639
If you want it to replace diarama...
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>>485374705
for the greater good...
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>>485371551
Oh i thought it was something else but its just nothing
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I dont like the CoV Story much but it was fun regardless.
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It would be cool if SMTIV took place during the garden of Eden era. That primordial chaos the Quitdia hyped up sounded awesome qadistu
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I can't believe it but I think Vengeance has got me appreciating the CoC story much more. CoC is shit, but Vengeance doesn't exactly do much to fix it lategame. Tao becoming more relevant is nice but they completely missed a trick by not letting us get Yoko for the fourth zone depending on alignment. Yoko is already one of the weakest Chaos girls with no real leg to stand on so her being absent for the best part of the game feels dumb and missed the chance to make the Qaidisu plot actually feel like it had a purpose. Daichi should've stayed dead too. Abdiel is already a non-character and him getting an evil mode feels unnecessary.
The strongest addition of the CoV story was Miyazu becoming relevant and the Tao/Yoko interaction but neither is paid off that well.
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>>485375126
As someone who played the OG game beforehand when it released, I found it a little disappointing that the only really major changes to the gameplay outside level scaling was the third area (locations for bosses are the same, even if the story bosses are different, areas from 1,2, and 4 are the exact same.) I really wished they switched the protag like 4A and did more to shake the locations up.
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Do different navigators give different reward odds? If so, which is the best for farming sutras?
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>>485375419
i laughed
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>>485375419
they probrably made the story worse than it actually is
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>>485375419
my dog wife would never say this
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>>485375419
What does she say in JP?
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Gaming Mysteries: Just who is the golden woman in the SMT2 credits?
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>>485348119
They’re structured differently, but aren’t some of the self-healing bosses also damage checks? Specifically Maria, Danu, and Onyonkopon. You aren’t forced to beat them quickly to avoid dying, but you need to take out all or close to all of their health bar in one turn to win the fight.
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>>485375493
I honestly don't like the third area at all either. The enemies don't fit the zone at all and the gameplay is just a huge wild goose chase. The og third zone wasn't the best, but it had a pretty strong aesthetic and multiple great setpieces like Surt, Ishtar, and the Demon Castle. In Vengeance the place looks lovely but that's about it. Being chased down by Mara was probably the best giant enemy jumpscare especially compared to Hecaton in og and everyone loves Mastema but Agrat was a letdown, the fight against the four Qaidistu was surprisingly underwhelming, and Abdiel is a non-character in Vengeance so that was rather shit too.
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>>485376156
She probably uses some Japanese millennial slang that doesn’t translate. I wonder if Japanese nerds get triggered by this stuff.
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>>485377847
I liked it that it was at least different and exciting to see what would happen. Since stuff like the humans in the second area are still in the same spots, so seeing something new was good.
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>>485378045
The second zone I was a bit conflicted on. I was really happy that Miyazu got a plot bump and Eisheth was genuinely unsettling. It's also quite good for seeing Tao develop differently even if Yoko is such a whinge. Then again, I remember the second zone in the first game being a massive slog and being annoyed at the Fairy Village sidequest.
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>>485377847
>the fight against the four Qaidistu was surprisingly underwhelming
The amount of posts I have seen of Anon's here having a hard time doesn't tell me that fight was underwhelming.
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>>485378815
Gameplay wise it is trivialised once you're able to burst the girls down. Story wise it feels more like a setup to a proper final encounter than actually taking out the Qaidistu.
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>>485377847
I still feel like Chiyoda is the worst of the five zones. I do like that the bosses there are plot related and the enemy mobs represent the opposing armies ( it annoys me they were reused for Shinjuku). However, I think it’s by far the most visually boring region of Daat. It’s just urban decay, the common denominator of all the other areas without anything to make it stand out. It’s a bitch to navigate, especially when you first get there and there is fog.
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>>485379803
Yes. As someone who just replayed CoC Chiyoda and the Demon King's Castle. That shit is ass. Worst part of the game by far.
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>>485370964
>Belial in shakan
Um what the fuck... Demon king castle I can understand but shakan?
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>>485380184
I mean, they already had established the demon armies had invaded Shakan.

Although I guess it's easy to forget that with how relaxed Abdiel seems about everything there.
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>>485380302
Memorable design. Dangerous to fight. Thick thighs.
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I really don't like the mc customisation in VV... I did CoC with Magic mc which was fun until I got to lategame and had to replace everything with the lame debuff almighty move. Physical was even more dull and it's new physical moves were gimmicky as fuck even if technically the damage numbers got wild. Compared to how enjoyable physical builds in 3 or magic builds in the 4 duology I really couldn't enjoy the mc in 5. I almost wish I just dedicated myself to support mc since that at least felt original.
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I read somewhere Kaneko never was formally trained as an illustrator, and never intended to be a character designer. He just did it because at the time Atlus was starting up, he was the only person who could draw. He never even wanted to do video game art. What does /smtg/ think about this?
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>>485380302
Space Weirdo Arahabaki!
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>>485381313
>Compared to how enjoyable physical builds in 3 or magic builds in the 4 duology
Who are you trying to fool?
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>Tokyo in 5 is Paradise
>Lucifer defeating God is a inversion of Paradise Lost
>Any ending but True Neutral, New Law and New Chaos are basically bad endings.
>Creation is Adam/male centered, Vengeance is Eve/female centered
Am I wrong to interpret stuff that way?
>>485381385
What I think about this doesn't matter, it already happened after all and nothing will change this. No need to dwell on it.
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>>485381385
I also read that Kaneko always saw his art as a job rather than a calling. Part of me thinks that’s a shame because he’s damn talented in a creative sense, but I guess it ultimately just matters what makes you happy.
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>>485381878
In 3 you felt like a powerhouse. In 4 you had full flexibility. In 5 you're basically just using the same one-two combo all game and can't experiment since the regular moves are utter shit compared to the Nahobino unique ones.
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I just started Godborn, this seems kind of not very fun...
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>>485382475
That’s not really different from Nocturne once you get Divine Shot. Like you’ll probably upgrade to Spiral Viper and Freikugel, but you’re basic strategy is set at that point.
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>>485382475
>In 3 you felt like a powerhouse
In Nocturne you are a weak ass bitch until the lategame
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>>485382413
Regular law at least is a good ending even if it's almost entirely due to the nutjobs already being dead. Neither chaos route is a good ending and regular neutral is only bad because regular humans don't have the means to fight back against demons. New Law isn't bad either although Bruce Almighty Tao probably isn't the most responsible god.
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>>485382475
Your criticisms make no sense. Phys Nahobino is a powerhouse just like demi-fiend except you actually feel strong as soon as you get Aramassa instead of waiting till lvl 40 to get Dvine Shot in Nocturne. You also criticize a supposed "one-two" combo in V when that is literally what describes Focus+Divine Shot/Spiral Viper/Freikugal in Nocturne. I also don't see how IV has more build flexibility than V. You are staying stupid shit without thinking it through.
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>>485382413
>Am I wrong to interpret stuff that way?
Yeah. The Mandala system is destroyed in all endings aside from normal Neutral. Lucifer still gives the exposition about his knowledge breaking the system once he dies and he's satisfied when you beat him. There's nothing special about True Neutral aside from it having more effort put into the ending's presentation compared to the Chaos/Law Creation endings.
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>>485375404
Miyazu needed to die trying to revenge against me, should've killed khonsu right there and then
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How much VIT do I need to demifiend godborn (hard).

His occassional freikugel oneshots everyone if it crits. I have around 220-230 vit on everyone. Also what's with everyone spamming megidoloan and halving all my teams HP?
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>>485382475
Beano is a powerhouse starting from area 2 sakanagi, vengeance even makes support beano even stronger
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For SMTV:V, Deluxe Edition Y/N?
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>>485384486
Sure but disclaimer I like SMT V
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>>485384486
It depends how much you like Dagda or want the best healing demon in the game. The mitama shit isn't as important since you can farm virtual battles for macca.
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>>485384486
Probably yeah... I just wouldn't want to play without the mitama option or Sakuya lategame. They're comfort options, but they eliminate a lot of the frustration that can come later.
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Are they going to add anything else to the game post release or is this gonna be us? There's nothing too game breaking so far but surely they could give us more.
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>>485385291
For every other SMT game with DLC, they announced beforehand the DLC we would get and that's all they released so it seems unlikely. Maybe they decide to do more content if they're satisfied with how it performed, who knows, but historically it hasn't happened.
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I might play Shin Megami Tensei IV
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Danu and Dagda's magatsuhi combo skill sound like it has insane synergy potential with Baal's innate, especially on bosses which spam debilitate like Demi-Fiend. Is it as good as it sounds on paper?
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I like figmient slash, very fun and I Feel Lucky!
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>>485389029
>Cheat Slash
Game, you did not beat.
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>>485374639
Reddit bird
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>>485389029
I nerfed Figment Slash in my version of the game.
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>>485389349
Dont you have a GaaS to ruin balancingfag?
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>>485386640
Was all the SH2 stuff announced before release? I thought there was a character or something that came later.
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>>485391649
You're right, they added the QoL patch afterwards which added dash and some new demons, but I don't like thinking about SH2 as SMT.
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Is the booru just gone at this point?
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>>485392184
I think Atlus said that they wanted to transition to post-release DLC game support rather than the expanded additions they’ve done historically. I’m hoping that means we could get some more DLC for vengeance, because I don’t want to wait until VI to get more SMT content
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>>485392725
Yeah because that has stopped Sega from releasing back to back JRPG's before.
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>>485392725
>Mario RPGs are popping off
>Sega does what it always does: copy Mario
lmao
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>>485392725
>Tokyo Sonic Sessions
Weirdos would love it
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>>485392725
i've been asking for this for a while.i'll play the shit out of it if true.
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>>485394043
>Yakumo gets to fatally stab THIS
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>>485394972
>fatally
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>>485392709
If someone actually made a new one I will personally fund it’s existence
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>>485392806
Soul Hackers 2 got one update but that was it. Vanilla V also got one update. Persona 3 is basically the first real time they're actually doing post-launch stuff like other companies but it's kind of marred since the real meat of the expansion is the The Answer stuff (so it's remake of existing content and now wholly new stuff).
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>>485396538
>the The
You've made a grammatical error.
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>>485396695
cute design
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I want to see Raido fuck Raidou tenderly.
It may just be advanced onanism but it's hot.
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>>485397118
kinda gay senpai
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>>485397267
Lewds are Laidou's purpose!
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>>485396695
HOLY FUCK I LOVE DOI, I LOVE DOI ILOVE DOI I LVOE DOI I LOVE DOI I LVOE DOI I OVLKE DOI IL OVEID
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Why the fuck does every end game boss have light resistance FUCK
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>>485397507
Same bro
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>>485397993
just spam lolmighty
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>>485397993
Probably because Paraselene is very strong. Rev up those Impaler's Glory/Animus
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I want to play SMT IV on my PS5. Atlus, FIX THIS
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>>485399897
I really hope it gets ported
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The sooner Atlus realises that trapping their games on Nintendo consoles is a lost cause the better...
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>>485396538
A few threads ago someone mentioned how Atlus said that they were going to turn SH2’s performance around with continued DLC support, and then stopped after one update. I don’t know if it’s still the plan, but it seems like they at least had wanted to transition to a modern DLC model. This was probably aborted for SH2 because the game was a complete dud.
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>>485400157
Is it though? Isn’t the Switch extremely popular in Japan? Japanese game companies care a shit ton about domestic sales, even if the market is small compared to US and Europe.
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>>485400893
Even so, the Desu survivors, IV, IVA, SJ redux, Soul Hackers and etc are all trapped on a dead platform
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>>485400157
>>485400893
He's BSing you. Nintendo and Steam have the highest concentration of MegaTen fans.
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>>485400893
pc players can easily emulate nintendo games, the only ones complaining about this are sony players.
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>>485392806
Source?
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>>485401672
>as of Aug 2022
Most of their games weren't cross-platform at that time. Get new source
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>>485402343
>cross-platform
Multi platform. Whatever you know what I mean
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I'm gonna say it
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I love Yoko, my cute autistically retarded wife~
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>>485402343
The sales of PS5 in Japan only cratered since then.
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Having human characters playable is great, but did they need to make each of them so shit? The girls are fine for early and midgame since they can spam out items but in the long term they just exist to bitch at your quest choices. Then the guys pop up and by then every human character is going to be far worse.
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>>485397118
>tenderly

He strikes me as the rough dom type because Raidou would probably be into missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation after marriage.
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>>485404038
The guys are in your party for only like 20 minutes. Also Dazai is good. I used him against Khonsu and he beat his ass.
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>>485404038
Yeah I ignored all human members, demons all the way
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>>485400530
Of course they ditched SH2 DLC support when it did terribly
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>>485383109
>Regular law at least is a good ending even if it's almost entirely due to the nutjobs already being dead.
>implying V-kun isn't happy because he is now as much as a nutjob as YHVH, pleased that he is now the one in charge.
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>>485404038
They seem to be designed basically as "safe" members. They're better than demons you can get by the time they're joining, but then eventually fall behind since they can't learn from essences and are stuck with their initial skill list for each segment.

Dazai and Yuzuru are barely in your party too if you follow the story (I left and went out of my way to explore the middle part of Shinjuku with them just to keep them for longer since I knew they didn't have much party time).
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In Godborn Casual do I need to disable the shitty generator things for Ishtar or can I blow through her without that?
I just want this game to be done, this shit is mad gay
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what coc route has the least bosses, neutral?
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>>485375404
CoV could be a legitimate great story if it was more like Apocalypse, ironically. Have Tao's route be full on "hero saving the world" story with Yakumo, Koshimizu, Miyazu, etc. entrusting you with the future, and have Yoko's route become more like Massacre and have everyone (Bethel, the other Gods, the angels, Miyazu and Khonsu, Yakumo, etc.) join together try to stop you like how it was in Apocalypse.
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>>485406909
Yeah, normal neutral due to no Lucifer. You still fight two Nahobinos in every route.
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>route split is right after Shakan
>Koshimizu leaves you but Yoko gives you new Nahobino powers
>the story is actually rewritten to have the other Pantheons actively work against the Nahobino to stop him and Yoko
>even Beelzebub is trying to stop you
>you can't go back to Bethel HQ in Tokyo but you use the primordial chaos area were you fight Tiamat as your new HQ
>Bethel teams up with Yakumo and gives him new demons, etc. to fight against you
>instead of just fighting for revenge, Miyazu and Khonsu are fighting to stop you, you actually kill them afterwards (Yoko calls it "mercy-killing")
>the Quaditsu are NPC allies that give you quests
>Mastema is the replacement for Tiamat, not for Tehom
>in the final area of the Empyrean, the final boss is Goko, who turns into Kagutsushi form
What could've been...
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>>485408753
Hell, maybe Bethel and Tao try to prop ups Miyazu and Khonsu as the new champions since's they're only ones that could still turn into Nahobino (and aren't insane like Dazai).
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so we all agree that the last fourth of cov is what it is because of lack of time/resources rather than because that's how they wanted it to be?
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>>485402834
NIGGER
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>>485409491
At the very least I think that's true for the Vengeance Chaos route.

I do think some issues were just their own bad ideas though (being unwilling to move on from Lucifer as the final boss, since it'd require Tiamat or Tehom beating him up before the player, and for some unfathomable reason they really wanted to keep the Nahobinos as route exclusive bosses,without letting them even appear in cutscenes outside of the boss battles against them).
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>>485402834
KID
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>>485408753
>Joining yoko when she has been a backstabbing bitch the whole time
Nah no way
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>best buffers and healers in base game are megamis and heralds
>make them incompatible with Beelzebub so you have to buy Konohana Sakuya
Atlus...
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>>485404442
Dazai is good partly because he has unique skills that are balanced for shitty early game demons but are really useful when they have some good stats behind them.
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Is Glacial Dragon Spiral unironically good?
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>>485408753
How the fuck do you get "new Nahobino powers" when you have no god to fuse with?
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>>485411437
Why do you care? It was clearly a last minute thing done for shits and giggles
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>>485411104
>15 MP, 145 pwr, Pierce, 1 foe
It’s better than the tools most level 13 demons have. It’s not like endgame good though
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>>485400530
https://personacentral.com/sh2-sales-below-expectations-p5r-reception/
>Q: Please tell us how you evaluate the situation of new titles released in Q2.

>A: Although “Soul Hackers 2” is currently struggling to reach the expected sales level, we believe that it is a title that can be sold over the long term, so we will continue to update the game in the future with the aim to expand sales.
>“Two Point Campus” is compatible with multiple platforms, including subscription services, and has achieved a record number of users and user evaluations, however the sales volume is weaker than expected. We will aim to expand sales in the same way because of the game’s high quality and the high user feedback.

i think it was less DLC and more "we can fix it in post" but the last update was years ago and the other game mentioned in that section, 2 Point Campus, got updates as recent as last week
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1649080/Two_Point_Campus/

A shame, a good Devil Summoner game with content updates would've been great. Imagine them adding new jobs you could take and implementing the SMTV demons into quests in modern settings
>Aitvarases squatting in an apartment complex and stealing all the eggs
>there's a loup garou on the loose and you have to find who they are when not transformed before the next full moon
>help a Hayataro defend a shrine from a nue onslaught
etc
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>>485411437
>when you have no god to fuse with?
>He didn't do the Zeus/Baal sidequests
>He didn't do the sidequest where you kill Orochi
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>>485413205
Zeus is literally Bethel Aligned and Baal doesn't align with Yoko
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>>485413205
>Both are bull gods
>Yoko is literally a backstabbing serpent
Retard
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Now this is a good build, right
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>>485414886
Yes
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>>485408753
I like the idea of Tao sacrificing herself to bring back god Amaterasu as a last ditch effort. It would go with Amaterasu the god being unable to exist because of Tao's existence and fit with her new determination to fight for what she believes in on the V route.
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I hope SMT6 is better than V trash
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>>485408753
Law Route should have had Tao sacrifice herself with Aogami to save you and Yoko, having been convinced her viewpoint was wrong, followed you as a Tao replacement.

Chaos Route should have had Yoko sacrifice herself instead with Tao now being convinced she was wrong and trying to help you bring about Yoko's vision.

They try to play up both of them changing their stances on things after journeying together but they still fulfill basically the exact same role no matter what.
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>>485415808
>Alignment rep changes their alignment
impossible.
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>>485414886
even the switch version looks better than this, are you playing on a 3ds? tf
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>>485416901
Which is Ironic given they make a big deal about demons being immortal but unable to change whereas humans are mortal but can change.
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GET ON MY DICK, NAAMAH
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>>485417520
slut doobil
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Just finished Godborn Hard.
At least the story stuff was fucking trivial, I had to do zero grinding or prep or anything, my Satan team just stomped it as they were. Didn't game over a single time.

I'm sure the superbosses would be a different story, but this was just boring and tedious as fuck honestly. Everything took forever to kill while barely putting up a fight themselves, many bosses I honestly could have just auto battled to death with my beaner alone.
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Who should I pour 35 Agility Incences into?
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>>485417912
Masakado and Arioch are the only damage dealers that matter.
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>>485417850
Also I can't be the only one who thought it was funny they switched every enemies' Magatsuhi skill from Critical to Pierce, right?
Magatsuhi is so fucking underutilized in this game, it's such a fucking shame. The only time in the entire game they do something neat with it is Satan.
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>>485417912
your demon wife
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>>485418460
It really sucks the default one is free crits since most of the time it's better. Most of them are outclassed by basic skills too. The Foul one you get early on is actually pretty strong and consistent at least for most of the game due to removing press turns
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>>485419075
Omagatoki Critical is a combination of very strong and braindead easy to use. There’s little incentive to experiment with the others which are all worse or at least more situational.
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>>485419481
Or it's stuff that makes Multihit hit for the max when there isn't really anything that has a lot of multihits for it to be useful with
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>>485418002
>Arioch
He has no unique skill. He's ultimately irrelevant.
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>>485420194
Arioch's trait is broken beyond believe anon.
If you have a full stock of dead demons he deals the highest damage in the game by a longshot.
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>>485419591
You don't need more than the normal 5-7 attacks hitting one target to outdamage Critical or Savage and that's before adding Pandemonic Feast into the equation.
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>>485420387
I think the skill is very thematically strong. Since it makes him stronger the less demons are around. Because he only became the Demon King because of a power vacuum.
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Is Arioch unlockable in CoV?
Since we went to Shinjuku instead of Chiyoda, we never fought Arioch
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Why was War Cry and Fog Breath removed in SMTV?
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>>485420843
Yes. You eventually get a quest to complete a certain virtual battle to unlock Arioch, Ishtar and Surt
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>>485420843
Yeah, you get VR battles after the equivalent point in the story for both the Kunitsukami and the Hell Army forces.
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how do ailments work in smt5v? if you apply an ailment that is already on an enemy does it count towards innate abilities, and is the ailment extended? can you overwrite strong ailments with weak ailments? when an ability can apply multiple ailments, is each chance rolled individually, or do you roll ailment appliance once then the ailment is chosen at random?
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>>485421072
Probably because buffs/debuffs need to be refreshed now, and it would be wasteful to use these skills to refresh debuffs. All the skills that debuff two stages are now tied to some additional function
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Buffs are literally useless in VV
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>>485411437
she's controlling tiamat she could have manipulated her to release Aogami
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>>485409491
I think that's how they wanted it to be but given that they wanted it to be a number of things
two endings that don't feel better than the other and new boss fights but given more time and budget things could turn out differently
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>>485379803
Don't click this
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>>485423916
Not a catbox, I WILL click it
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>>485423916
>Annoying as FUCK in Chiyoda
>Annoying voice
>Will chase after the player regardless of level
>It's common to accidentally bumped into them per playthrough
I fucking hope this demon get shelved forever along with the chicken demon from the second area
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>>485424431
I love the screaming honestly
Demons making fucked up noises is fun
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Is Gae Bolg good or was putting my incenses and grimoires into Cu a retard move
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>>485429325
It's really good.
A move that always crits, never misses and pierces insane.
Eventhough it has a pretty low base power of 150 cu's innate gives all crits a 1.25 increase in power and you don't have to run impaler's animus, because it pierces on it's own.
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>>485429325
>>485430006
Yeah, give him Crit. Zealot too.
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>>485430006
>Surrogate Guard Hound
>Self and ally dmg dealt by crit x1.25 when they are a Avatar, Holy, Beast, or Wilder
Need one of them in active party, but if you wanting to use Cu to his fullest it's not a bad trade.
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Is my vitality/strength allocatement good? i saw people say that if you get like 2000 vitality you'll be able to tank a megido ark, But i dont know if i really want to invest the majority of my stats into vitality...
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>>485430006
>I've been missing cu chulainn + hayataro combo this whole time
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>SJ mastema can turn people into angels and is probably doing some multiverse travelling
>IV mastema can creates a time paradox by making Flynn time travel
>VV mastema can turn people into salt and control demons
God's stronkest warrior...
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>>485430006
>>485433310
To add on to this, Scathac has perfect accuracy when deployed with Cu Chulainn so you can give her Figment Slash and Megaton Press with 100% hit rate without buffs or debuffs.
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>>485434597
That's Metatron who fought Demi Fiend
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There is a severe lack of the Pharaoh Cleopatra in this thread. Let's fix that.
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>>485438068
If artists gave her more love there'd be more to post.
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if you invested points into vit you didn't beat the fucking game
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>>485438467
What the fuck was I supposed to do with all those Vitality incense?
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You guys think we will see SMT666 before 2030? I have a feeling that SMTVV might actually be the last mainline game.
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>>485439227
Why the doom posting anon? it sold 500k in 3days, would have sold a lot more if elden ring DLC did not come right after. (most) of the fanbase loves the new story and its rated highly among critics and fans.
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>>485432828
>2000 vitality
Did you mean 200? Can you even get more than 999?
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>>485375512

Literally came to ask this exact question. It certainly feels like they give different chances of encounters and stuff.
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>>485375512
>>485440786
This article lists specialties but I don't know how true the specifics are
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/all-navigators-how-to-unlock-them-in-shin-megami-tensei-v-smt-v/
Kinda makes me wish the game had a better data mining scene
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>>485440360
i was exaggerating, i think 999 is the max. But nonetheless i hear high vitality counts are pretty Gud for the reasons i mentioned prior... BTW Figmint slash + beast eye +dragon eye +crtical zealot is FUCKIN broken./
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>He's still underleveled in VV
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>>485446832
Do they still give you hayataro at level 40 at the empyreum in CoC? In CoV i think they just give him to you after the yuzuru fight
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>>485445168
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>>485447183
>Do they still give you hayataro at level 40 at the empyreum in CoC?
Yep. They didn't bother to fix this issue.
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>>485447558
Cute footslut
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what kind of gimmick will VI have? we had test tube jesus, mixed blood samurai and magical boy robot susanoo. what will they do next time?
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Just one more playthrough of CoC and I'll be finally be able to experience CoV. Can't wait to finally say goodbye to Chiyoda and Demon Castle
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>>485448691
Why
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>>485449093
100% completion because I'm a autist and want to torture myself by beating all the CoC routes again before touching the CoV routes
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>>485449384
ill fuck nuwa for yakumo
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Cute and canon!
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>>485448409
You're going to be the God of Conquest (SMT edition).
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>>485392725
Shin Megami Tensei VI featuring Shadow the Edgehog from the acclaimed Sonic the Hedgehog (tm) series.
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Why are SMT IV and SJ considered the best entries in the series?
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>>485449384
will you atleast do newborn? i just finished CoV and im doing reborn for the other ending, im gonna play the CoC routes again another time...
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>>485450823
you can ask people what their favorite is and their answers will vary alot
SJ is the best instance of first person dungeon crawling and IV has an interesting setting and a soundtrack alot of people love
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>>485450823
I'm about 80% of the way through IV... and I really liked the worldbuilding/characters and I'm looking forwards to picking up SJ.
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>>485450823
IV is baby first SMT so naturally it would be praised more than something like DDS or SMT 2
SJ has the meme status of being a uber difficulty game and that it's the only mainline entry that takes place outside of Tokyo(Which was proven false as SJ was actually a spin-off the entire time)
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>>485450823
I don't consider them the best in the serie, though SJ is pretty close but here:
World building, characters (and music for IV), though I personally disliked the gameplay and balance of IV.
SJ is also a pure dungeon crawler, though the coop system is mediocre/underdeveloped and the source system is clunky since it was the first time they implemented it.
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>>485450823
VV is the best entry in the series. IV is probably the worst numbered game.
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How do I get Kinmamon?
Currently level 50 and I heard he's only fusion accident
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There is only one good megaten, pic obviously related
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How come SMT doesn't have 5 way fusion?
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>>485453618

Cringo
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>>485452891
I don't even find IV good but your post screams recency bias
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is there any working private server for imagine left?
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>>485454053
Based
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Is there a way to "surrender"? So you can get out of the battles and reload
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>>485454993
Run auto battle and go make a drink.
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>>485266687
I hate degeneracy
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>>485454068
Yes anon, anytime someone likes the most recent entry in a series it can only be because of recency bias. For your opinion to count your favorite entry must be pre 2004.
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>>485448691
Bro your endurance is legendary, I did my first ever completion of SMTV recently (CoC so I can contextualize CoV correctly) and I started CoV but I'm already feeling burnout before even getting to the Diet building
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>>485454993
it was a negotiation skill in IV but it doesn't work on bosses
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>>485455419
You should probably take a break for a couple of days/weeks.
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>>485455504
But I have nothing else to play. I can't go outside because it's 900 degrees and I'll die.
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Finding the Halphas family a home and protector is wholesome and heartwarming
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>>485452891
V is the worst numbered game
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>>485450823
The people who played them as their first SMT are now at the right age to be very nostalgic for them, and you're less likely to see detractors in large numbers seethe over decade old games unless something when hugely wrong. This is until you hit a tipping point where enough new fans have to go back and play them. Who for whatever reasons won't be as kind.

One day anons will act confuse when you say VV was ever controversial, shit on 4 and Nocturne has a renaissance again. This too will pass.
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>>485455983
Nah, it's IV. In retrospect, IV was even more unfinished than base V.
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>>485456286
IV in its unfinished state still had more substance
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>>485456286
wrong unless you mean gameplay. IV was so complete they had to add a new story by adding new protag
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How come the Horsemen doesn't have a super magatsuhi skill combo like the Quadistu?
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Dx2 is having a collab with Madoka Magic
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>>485458148
B-B-B-B-BASED
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>>485456286
LMAO
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>>485458148
they should make a collab with a new artist because the character at for dx2 fucking sucks
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>>485457917
They're Kaneko demons
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>>485458148
These are the three characters they chose to be summonable
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>>485458148
>Mastema and Kyubey in the same universe.
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>>485458589
So we're Frost bros and they get a super magatsuhi combo skill
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>>485458148
>>485458724
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>>485459517
Dx2 is the SMT Gacha anon
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>>485459263
Jack frost got a doi redesign.
So he is officially a doimon now.
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Homura: High Gun Pleroma
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>>485459578
Yeah, why don't they add SMT characters to it or characters from series that fit like Berserk?
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>>485459672
Anon, Berserk already has quite a few characters in(Guts, Berserk Guts, Femto, Griffith, Zodd, Shierke, Skull Knight Mozgus)
They had DMC, Bayonetta, Evangelion and Berserk collabs already
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>>485459672
they are both spec fic horror hybrids, but madoka leans urban fantasy horror, while smt leans more scifi (sometimes medium scifi). berserk is grimdark epic fantasy gothic horror
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>>485459672
>>485459782
Oh yeah and they also have a rule that they can't use human characters from the other SMT games
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>>485459782
Nigger I know about the collabs, I'm saying they should do more of the ones that make sense instead of some shit about magic girl deconstruction or whatever
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absolute nigger post
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>>485460094
If you knew why did you ask for Berserk when it just had a collab 2 months ago?
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>>485460260
>characters from series that fit like Berserk?
>like
Try reading
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>>485460323
Try not lying to save face on an anonymous website
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>>485458148
Dx2 is eternal it just refuses to die
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>>485460425
I specifically brought up Berserk because I knew about it you fucking nigger. Last (You)
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>>485458148
She can one shot YHVH btw
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>>485459882
Why though? You'd think they'd have milked those Demi-Fiend and Aleph bucks by now.
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>>485460635
YHVH's a bitch anyway
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>True Neutral Ending was so bad, Satan himself comes to judge you for being a faggot
Neutral has cemented itself as the worst alignment
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>>485460829
I can see the silhouette of his penis
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>>485460829
>Neutral has cemented itself as the worst alignment
Always was outside of Dark-Neutral.
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>>485460761
Probably a clause to also exclude Persona characters or because they want to keep the worlds appart
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>>485460635
Yeah, but Homura still usurped her rule in the end and the incubators are still around
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>>485460635
she cant even beat kagutsuchi
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The quality of Yoko's Pussy?
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>>485460930
That's a shadow
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Maybe what SMT needs... is a Made in the Abyss crossover.
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>>485462581
Hololive crossover
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>>485462581
LET'S GO GENSHIN COLLAB
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>>485462581
Would whale for Papa Bondrewd.
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Is there a worse SMT story fight than Shesha?
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>>485458148
Honorary Megaten franchises:
>Neon Genesis Evangelion
>Kamen Rider
>Berserk
>Catherine
>Maken X
>Xenogears/Xenosaga/Xenoblade
>Sonic The Hedgehog
>Devil May Cry
>Bayonetta
>Saint Seiya
>Danganronpa
>Jojo Bizzare Adventure
>Metal Gear Solid (2)
>The Seven Deadly Sins
>Overlord
>GHOST IN THE SHELL
>Love Live
>Granblue Fantasy
>Nier
>2001: A Space Odyssey
>Lupin The Third
>Spawn
>Disney's Aladdin(The original, not the remake)
>Astro Boy
>Aura Battler Dunbine
>Blade Runner
>Gundam
>Kite
>Blood: The Last Vampire
>Breaking Bad
>Conan the Barbarian
>Cowboy Bebop
>Darkstalkers
>Day Of The Dead
>Devilman
>Dragon Ball Z
>Durara
>Eraserhead
>Jacob's Ladder
>Fight Club
>Full Metal Jacket
>Ghostbusters
>Ghost Rider
>The Girl on a Motorcycle
>if...the movie
>Super Mario Bros
>Matsuko Deluxe
>Night Angel
>Planet of the Apes
>Red Hot Chili Peppers
>Silent Hill
>Star Trek
>La Lengua de las Mariposas
>The Terminator
>Dragon Quest
>The Legend of Zelda
>Evil Dead (2)
>Log Horizon
>Fate Grand Order
>Twin Peaks
>Wicked City
>Haiyore! Nyaruko-san
>Tsukuyomi: Moon Phase
>Baki
>Night Breed
>Rurouni Kenshin
And now
>Madoka
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>>485463797
did not ask
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>>485463646
What's wrong with Shesha
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>>485463852
Too bad, it's a requirement since Madoka is now added to the list of honorary megaten franchises
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>>485464014
he's a damage sponge that takes forever to kill, constantly spams status and crits like a motherfucker for even more turns. he's so unbelievably boring and tedious
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>>485464185
like half of your list is random shit that you happen to like with very little to no connection to megaten. no one asked.
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>>485463797
>Love Live
Really?
What's the reference?
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>>485382413
I do find it funny that the tragedy of the old Chaos ending is that it’s too idealistic and hopeful in a system that actively hates the idea of cooperation between Gods and not absolute rulers.

Even better Egypt is one of the pantheons consistently portrayed as being a tight knit family who is lead by a reasonable God more than willing to work with others when bested without trying to pick a doomed fight like Zeus.
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>>485463852
>did not [HEADCANON]
>>485464372
Half your list [Are franchisees better than megagoy]
Kekarooo! Imagine siming for atlus post birth! Do 3/iv/vkeks really?
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mental illness
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The only good SMT games are the ones with Mr. Nandi, the rest are just worthless trash, even your favorite.
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>>485434597
SJ Mastema is an ALIEN~
IV’s is funny when aligned with his other versions cause it does mean Gabriel probably is jealous of the fact God allows him to do all sorts of stuff that they don’t get too, especially as the two hate each others guts and Gabriel herself manipulated Tamagami.
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>>485464372
>like half of your list is random shit that you happen to like with very little to no connection to megaten.
Every single franchise listed in that post either did a collaboration with Megaten, or had influence on the seried. For example, one of the biggest influences for Kaneko's artwork during the early 2000s was Jojo's Bizzare Adventure. Or Surt design being based off a character from Night Breed.
Don't be a fucking retard.
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>>485460515
It's acutal kino. Kino never dies. The character aritst sucks though
>>485464936
M-Menta- AIIIIIIIIIE! Pls don't kill me scholar, I beg yo- "QUAPS"
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>>485460635
Nah.

>>485463797
And very autistic.
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>>485465105
ok bro, tell me how breaking bad or mario influenced megaten
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>>485465124
why is it kino
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>>485465127
Still simping for a franchise worse than pokemon in 2024.
Kekachonky!
>>485465242
If it exists, megafag copied it somehow. Kids next door? Gba demi kids traced that shit. World of darkness? Idk how, but traced. My HERO? 100 percent. Megaten has zero originality.
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>>485463797
The only SMT stuff in Mario related media is the Club Nintendo Comics which are non-canon.
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>>485464748
>What's the reference?
In Persona 5, one of the Jack Frosts during battles makes a reference to Love Live by saying ""Nee Ho, Nee Ho, Nee!", which is a reference to Nico Yazawa catchphrase, "Nico, Nico, Nii!".
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>>485465718
Persona 5 is not megaten
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>>485465829
>Es nut megatoy even tho devil survivor es jus as gay
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https://x.com/ColoplRecruit/status/1810887152236122636
Kaneko's gonna speak in a dev recruitment event
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>>485465242
Soul Hackers 2 has a store that references Breaking Bad. Nocturne also has unused text data that mentions Super Mario.
>I'm "Luigi." I think I'll go with you, you remind me of my big bro. Little chubby too.
https://tcrf.net/Shin_Megami_Tensei_III:_Nocturne/Unused_Battle_Dialogue/battle
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>>485466087
Probably going to talk about his game idea.
>>485466171
Remember when people found out that Mikan22 was lying about Mikan being the OG protagonist?
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>>485466171
wow a shitty reference in a slop game and unused dialogue... truly these are honorary megaten titles
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>>485466490
>Slop game
But enough about v.
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>>485466769
>SMT invented seal of solomon
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>>485467507
yeah
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>>485466490
Game quality doesn't really matter. OG V was fucking shit but it references Saint Seiya via Artemis design, making it automatically honorary megaten. Or Navarre design in Apoc being a obvious reference to Ghostbusters.
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>>485467952
>Smtkeks are now reironiclly more retarded than pokebros.
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>>485465718
Never played Persona but interesting...
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>>485463797
TWGOK soon
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>>485469072
Only if they make a demon dating sim.
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Someone should mod Dazai into Vergil
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>>485463797
Digimon
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>>485463797
Bro you forgot the Bible.
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>>485463797
Fire emblem bros where the fuck are we?
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>>485465004
SMT1 bros...
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>>485463797
>no Teito Monogatari
I expect nothing less from a retarded schizo
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Ringo wants another hamburger!
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>>485471195
I bet you commission this shit
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>>485466490
It ain't MegaTen if it doesn't have topical pop culture references, anon.
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>>485465105
>For example, one of the biggest influences for Kaneko's artwork during the early 2000s was Jojo's Bizzare Adventure.
That's putting it lightly, If..., Persona 1 and 2 which are largely directed by Kaneko, are ENTIRELY driven by Jojo's Bizarre Adventure part 3 from supernatural themes to allusions to tarot. And this goes beyond inspiration too, Kaneko and Araki are close friends and it's a lot more of a tribute than a cheap reference.

Hell, even by Persona 3 the Evokers are very blatantly a reference to Jotaro summoning Star Platinum for the first time in the manga.
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this place is a piece of shit reddit shithole containment. including this sperg >>485332187 leeching off this place
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>>485438068
source?
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Is it possible to make Cu Chulainn strong enough to bring to endgame?
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>>485474680
Since I'm feeling nice.

https://x.com/Luci_omi_gusu/status/1804922208231502065
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>>485474867
He was my best damage dealer outside of beano against shiva and lvl 99 lucifer.
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>>485475452
k thx
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I never really got the significance of Baal specifically being Baal Avatar in nocturne compared to the other two reason fags just being the deity straight up
Was there a specific reason/intended thematic connection to be made with chiaki specifically being incarnated into an avatar instead of just fusing with her god normally like the other two, or was it just random?
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Lol
This is where kaneko got cherub in devil summoner from
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>>485438145
I agree. She needs more good art.
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Would you like cheat codes in SMT? If what which kind
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>>485477885
Do I look like a fucking casual?
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>>485478414
yes
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>>485477885
Fatlus literally sells cheat codes.
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>>485477885
passwords do stuff like that kinda
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>>485477885
Big Head mode
All Weapons + 6 stars
Playable Wolverine
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>>485477885
There's a spreadsheet that has everything you could ever want to edit into your save so no, not really https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/106XJxt63vAw6sBA7cQNW19l4UWmHjd9-byqdSQSF4j4/htmlview#gid=0
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>>485459086
And they are probably working together as Kyubey is basically a lawfag.
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>>485476132
I don’t have a real answer for you, but ‘Baal Avatar’ reminds me of how biblical scholars think the original intended identity of ‘the angel of YHWH’ in the Hebrew Bible is a kind of avatar of YHWH rather than a wholly separate being. With how the angels are aligned to Yosuga, and Baal also being a title for YHWH in the Bible I think that maybe it’s meant to tie Yosuga to YHWH as he appears in the oldest books of the Bible. Baal Avatar even looks a bit like Kagutsuchi, and I think Kaneko said Kagutsuchi was kind of a stand-in for a supreme deity.
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>>485474867
I really like Cu Chulain, but he has one of the worst looking models in V. His hands are super janky, he has rigid strands of hair, his armor looks like plastic, and the chain mail undercoat isn’t rendered properly. Why does such a popular demon look like shit?
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>>485482776
It's a recycled model and the model itself is not even his, it's Tam Lin's.
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>>485483718
I know it’s reused, but it looks worse than other reused models. Yoshimitsu, a demon with similar proportions and another reused model looks great by comparison.
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>>485477073
>He actually edited it
Kek. Now show that to the original artist.
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>>485477073
>>485486474
based. fuck watermark niggers
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>>485477073
NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST REMOVE THE WATERMARK THIS IS ILLEGAL

MODS!!!
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>Say...
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>>485472726
Any more info on Araki and Kaneko? That's pretty interesting
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>>485488325
>>485488325
>>485488325
new
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>>485488383
someone actually waited for page 10. god bless your soul.
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>>485486474
Prefer not to beef with some random artist, personally.

>>485486709
I'll do what I damn well please for the sake of good Cleopatra images.
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>>485488654
I made it at page 9 choosing an op pic just took me too long lol
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>>485488189
I don't remember the site but there's a translated interview Araki did to Kaneko a while back when they talk about art school and their inspirations. If you google it you'll find it

They both mention how they make a lot of allusions to western culture precisely because they don't understands it very well so it's less embarrassing.



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