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We let the general die edition

This general is for cooperative games, titles which need more than one player and requires them to work together to win. Examples include: Helldivers, Vermintide, Darktide, Valheim, Deep Rock Galactic and EDF.

>Latest News/Updates:

Valheim:
/coopg/ dedicated server is up. see thread for more details (ded server)
Ashlands PTB:
https://valheim.com/news/patch-0-218-9-ashlands-public-test/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/892970/allnews/

Helldivers 2:
PATCH 01.000.404
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850

Wartracker:
https://helldivers.io/
Info:
https://divers.gg

Darktide:
Crafting rework info https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introduction-to-the-itemization-rework-dev-blog/96314

Vermintide 2:
Versus mode soonTM
https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/allnews/

Deep Rock Galactic:
SEASON FIVE WILL SAVE US, TRUST THE PLAN
https://steamcommunity.com/app/548430/allnews/

Remnant 2:
The Forgotten Kingdom DLC released:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1282100/allnews/

Payday 3 (dead game but whatever):
Patch 1.2.0 Boys in Blue(balled)
https://www.paydaythegame.com/news/payday3/2024/06/update-1-2-0/

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Left 4 Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO

>Future games
Killing Floor 3
Den Of Wolves - TBA
EDF 6 Western/PC Release - July 25th
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
The Forever Winter - TBA

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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yeah i'm playing left4dead2 so what
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ded
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yeah i'm playing payday 2 so what
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I like Darktide. I wish I liked it more.
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yeah I'm playing payday 1 so what
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Are any of you guys still playing payday 3? How dead is it? I've been thinking of reinstalling it to try out the dlc
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Dead general
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a nigga named swagger
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Anyone else noticed enemies jumping out of walls or outright teleporting into your bank?
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>>485382223
I know what would make me like it more
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the only good bug is a dead bug
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>>485374362
someone with 2000 hours is uniquely qualified to talk about a game
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>>485384682
If someone spent 2k hours on a game he genuinely considers to be bad then I usually just assume he doesn't actually know what he means by bad
Like you're forgetting the fact that a person with 2k hours in a game can still just be retarded and unable to form a sensible opinion
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>>485381176
How is Darktide these days? I seem to recall hearing a lot of negative things about it on release, which put me off from buying it before.
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>>485382396
Not really. Not as dead as it was before.
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I just started playing vermintide 2 and I'm inside of my first 100 hours. What do I need to know? So far after trying only kruber and bardin I favor kruber. For context I have 300 hours in darktide
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>>485386160
Not great. Check back after summer when the crafting overhaul releases and it might be better.
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>>485386160
Its certainly better.
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>>485386160
ask again during the winter sale, devs are on a three month vacation and the next patch is make or break for itemization.
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if i aggro a daemonhost and leave the mission does it aggro on my bot or does it switch targets to a player?
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>>485387482
it switches, unless they fixed it in the latest patch
I've seen multiple people weaponize this
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I

AM

READYYYYY
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>>485386547
darktides motto has been "crafting: comming soon!" since release, and thats a good thing.

I was a fan of 1% red drop rates in VT2 because i dont want other people to have perfect weapons, only the faithful should be allowed them.
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any day now...
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literally on the clock
fuck you steam
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>2022
>no crafting
>2023
>crafting added
>2024
>crafting reworked
>2025
...
Well? What's their next move?
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>>485395228
Crafting re-reworked
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>>485395228
crafting removed because game servers deleted
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bug 9, will play bot right after
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/coopg/ will die before Sweden
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>load into a mission failed screen
for the emperor!!!
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>>485398448
>"Coop" general
>Mostly just Ratclicking a dead game or pox clicking an even more dead game by a terrible dev
>Helldivers left because of ratclick autism
>no other games ever get talked about
Coop used to be 'the' genre, its amazing how the mighty fell.
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>>485398280
still going?
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>>485403605
yeah
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this truly is the end...
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>>485405823
ROT TAKE /COPEG/
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Why did they do this retarded crosshair hit indicator change in Darktide? I don't need more visual confirmation I landed a crit, there is already a sound effect, I get a lot more information by knowing when I landed a fucking headshot with a weapon since a lot of hitboxes are jank as fuck. Them turning the weakpoint indicator into the crit indicator is fucking retarded and pointless, meanwhile the new indicator for weakpoint hits is barely visible. At least give us the option to change it back... fucking Swedes.
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>Finished Abiotic Factor

Now what. I don't want to go back to shopclick
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>>485410262
Dungeonborne isnt bad its like a better dark and darker
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>>485406236
>Why
same reason why objective notifications take up half your screen
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>>485410636
>Dungeonborne
> PvPvE
Kill yourself
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I notice sometimes that when a certain vet voice uses executioners stance he'll yell out "CAMPUS WOMPUS!"

I tried looking it up but I can't find anything about it online. Can someone redpill me on the lore?
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>>485410860
i like it
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>>485411927
you mean "CANT MISS WONT MISS", you mong?
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How are the recon lasguns after the rework?
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>>485413058
Dont try to gaslight me, faggot
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>>485413684
About it to get nerfed
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>>485413792
Actually strong then? I’ll have to gamble on some then, what a novelty in darktide, a warhammer gun actually being good instead of regular boring guns (minus the plasma).
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>>485412961
did he learn?
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EDF sisters....soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiqFcc_l_Kk
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I’m busy shitting hard at the moment but what do you guys think of this mostly blue stratagem loadout for bugs?

>Commando, EAT, Supply pack, Cluster bombs
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>>485417929
orbital gatling
commando
rocket sentry
jetpack
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>>485417929
>cluster bombs
kinda lame
you already have two AT options so why not napalm for cluster that persists so you can plug holes
or the airstrike
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CAMPUS WOMPUS
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2500 kills while smiggering is suffering
this shit is so useless especially when I (best player on team) am using it
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>>485419490
COME PISS WANT THIS
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>>485419701
Should've attended campus wompus to hone your skills.
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NO ESCAPE FOR YOU
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>>485423960
KARATE VICTIM
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LIGHTNING BOLT
LIGHTNING BOLT
LIGHTNING BOLT
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Did this come to me in a dream or did Arrowhead say they were going to give every weapon a much larger magazine? Did it happen yet?
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>rager runs at me
>yells out "DISCOUNT!"
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>>485425106
it was a fake and not a very good one
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>>485425191
well fuck I fell for that hook, line and sinker
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9 bots
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>>485427548
2/4
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>>485416669
TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FROM ANY ALIEN ATTACKS
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For me, it's Incron.
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>>485427548
2/4 again
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>>485432689
surely these backgrounds will one day matter right? right?
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>>485435307
It's insane that they didn't try to put something like basic RPG elements into the cutscenes. Dialogue choices and shit. They have like 21 voice options so it wouldn't be that big a deal given how much conditional dialogue is in the game
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>>485435307
It's my understanding that certain backgrounds activate/deactivate certain lore barks? Like the same Fanatic voice could be pro-Inquisition or more populist and caring, or may/may not shit on Cadia depending on if they're from there
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>>485435307
only cadia despite the cadian personalities being double rejects that weren't good enough to die fighting on their precious rock before earning a death sentence for shooting up heroin in the library like all other homeless.
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>>485427548
>>485435227
4/4
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>>485412961
I had a driller place his ass between the end of my gun and the Caretaker's eye 2 times in a game yesterday.
I was using Overdrive Booster on the Shard Diffractor. I'm not gonna move, I'm not gonna stop shooting and you best know I'm not gonna move my aim.
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>Oh boy, a darktide cutscene! Let's just quickly load that up...
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/co-opg/ will die before aos.
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>>485439147
That doesn't really mean much. Many things will die before Advanced Orthinological Studies do
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>>485439664
B-B-B-B BIRD BIRD BIRD
THE BIRD IS THE WORD
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>>485382223
I like it, I just have literally nothing worth working for. I feel like I've already beaten the game.
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These Gunlugger penances are aids. Burst Limiter Override being a mandatory pick is C&B torture. Ogryns are awful without all of the versatility provided by the heavy attack from Heavy Attack spam, and there is literally not enough ammo in every single match to be able to permanently keep even the Stubbers on permament left-click mode.

Also I am sure there is absolutely a degree of skill issue, here. I just have no clue how I'm supposed to accomplish anything my class is supposed to be able to do with no talents affected my melee gameplay and no way to accomplish my penances anyway. They need to start baking in some light attack functionality to the Gun Lugger tree. It makes absolutely no sense as to why I have to be completely worthless unless my entire team is feeding me ammo.
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>>485444270
I use the shield and take all the toughness on heavy at the beginning of the tree it's not great without the bleed stuff but you can keep all types of enemies off you at least
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Me? I'm playing Deep Rock Galactic.
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>>485446672
I just like the Gunner.
Big gun big dakka big fun.
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>>485444270
All the Ogryn penances are horrible grinds, way worse than any of the other classes. They're meant to just be obtained passively over a long period of time I guess, actively trying to grind them out is miserable though.
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Worst stealth heist
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Why the fuck does darktide STILL run like such shit? My PC doesn't have problems with shit like helldivers 2 on the highest settings so why's this game run like ass
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>>485453970
You tweak until you get +30 fps for nearly the same visuals
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>>485423960
Kill netters. Behead netters. Roundhouse kick a netter into the concrete. Slam dunk a netter baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy 'eretics. Defecate in a netters food. Launch netters into the sun. Stir fry netters in a wok. Toss netters into active volcanoes. Urinate into a netters gas tank. Judo throw netters into a wood chipper. Twist netters heads off. Report netters to the Ordo 'ereticus. Karate chop netters in half. Curb stomp pregnant netters. Trap netters in quicksand. Crush netters in the trash compactor. Liquefy netters in a vat of acid. Eat netters. Dissect netters. Exterminate netters in the gas chamber. Stomp netter skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate netters in the oven. Lobotomize netters. Mandatory abortions for netters. Grind netter fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown netters in fried chicken grease. Vaporize netters with a kickback. Kick old netters down the stairs. Feed netters to the Beast of Nurgle. Slice netters with a katana.
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>>485457723
Kill gunners. Behead gunners. Roundhouse kick a gunner into the concrete. Slam dunk a dreg gunner baby into the trashcan. Crucify reapers. Defecate in a dreg gunners food. Launch gunners into the sun. Stir fry gunners with a flamethrower. Toss ranged enemies into active volcanoes. Urinate into a toxflamer's gas tank. Judo throw gunners into the big fan. Twist gunners heads off. Report gunners to the Ordo 'ereticus. Karate chop gunners in half. Curb stomp pregnant gunners. Trap gunners in CC chains. Crush gunners in the trash compactor. Liquefy gunners in a vat of acid. Eat gunners. Dissect gunners. Exterminate gunners in the gas chamber. Stomp gunner skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate gunners in the oven. Lobotomize gunners with revolvers. Mandatory abortions for gunners. Grind mauler fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown gunners in fried corpse starch grease. Vaporize gunners with a kickback. Kick old gunners down the stairs. Feed gunners to the Beast of Nurgle. Slice gunners with a revved chainsword.
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>>485449643
Based.
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Give mechs more ammo.
Replenish all stims and nades on resupplies
Remove slow-down on others when stimming.
UAV Booster showing samples.
More one-handed primaries.
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>>485458382
Heh,
>+48% DR against gunners
nothin personal kiddo
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>>485458892
I run 3 curios with 20% each, I still agree with everything said line by line
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>>485384074
In the coolant repair during the hacking event they were jumping out of the medstation wall
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>>485406236
Check your eyes man. The headshot indicator is super easy to see.
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MOVING TO FLUSH AND SHOUT!
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WIGGER REPORTING IN
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ILL SELL YOU DOWN huhughghhgh
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BE REASONABLE
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IN NUUUURGLES GAME!
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AUURÖÖÖÖÖÖHH! BÖRK! BÖRK!
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There is only one chaos god that can defeat me. It is titled "Oshaviolation"
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>>485461942
HARK, YON BAR-
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BEFORE WIFE, BED
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>>485461324
can any swede translate this?
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I wish more games had more option choices. Darktide is optimized like shit, but I can accept low settings with a little tweaking. Most of the environments and enemies look fine on low texture... But my guns and arms in first person look like shit. Would it really be that much work to make it so that textures for things in your hands are a different setting so I can set them to actually look decent?
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>>485465715
OWO
*Pounces*
*Nuzzles u*
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>>485465779
Suprisingly for some, yes. Even having options beyond an engine-prebaked Low Med High takes a couple months of a dev's time who is not lazy for a game of this size, and with the added complexity of the swedish spaghetti and meatballs the code can be given the types of errors we have seen in this specific game's lifecycle, it could be an entire team. It is infinitely easier to just say "buy a better PC" and have all devs cranking out content, and it might even satisfy more people if it were so.
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>me 0 downs
>rest of team 17 downs, 10 deaths
fucking hell this game puts me to work
dont forget to subscribe to my blog
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>>485470412
oh yeah and i solo clutched twice, didnt even get an 'atta boy'
bastards
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>The more I talk to you, Morrow, the more I warm to greenskins!
>I can see that! You got a lot in common with those xenos filth...
Hallowette keeps threatening to assassinate people. I think whoever did her writing was told she'd be the paypiggy store and made her as malicious and antisocial as possible
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>deeprock added space marines before darktide
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is there any mods to unlock every blessing and give perfect roll weapons?
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>>485472918
A space marine that sounds like a Scout?
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It'll be available after summer ;)
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Total Scout Death.
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>>485435801
youd think so but no they dont
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>>485477110
I've got a schematic for you: My Ass!
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>>485468793
Yeah this is basically why their entire dev team is busy for one year for "just" a console port
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>>485477547
ingredients 1 owl, 1 bungee cord
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>>485472405
No modern writers just think that being an obnoxious downright hostile cunt is bring a strong womyn
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Why would you ever use a chainsword or eviscerator over the chainaxe? The chaxe fucks absolutely everything faster than either of the other chain weapons while staggering even the heaviest elites.
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>>485478220
There is only one character in Darktide, and they're all obnoxious hostile cunts.
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>>485481107
Because the evis has better horde clear and crit synergy. NEXT
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>>485481107
Can it stagger a Nurgle Crusher?
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>>485481962
The Orestes can, if you spam enough lights into its face. I'm pretty sure I did that once.
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Anyone else have a light/ heavy armor dichotomy with your dwarfs? My scout and engie have decked out faces and my gunner and driller just wear helmets. Doesn't look right otherwise.
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>>485477920
you know the rule
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>>485481136
What about Sister Prine? All her quotes are praising you or shittalking the incompetent nobles.
Then there's Sefoni who is straddling the line between flirting and mindraping you
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>>485485672
>between flirting and mindraping you
sounds like a good date to me
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>>485414014
I remember the first YEAR+ the game was out plasma was a foam pool noodle with dogshit ammo economy, now that its good everyone wants it nerfed.
I fucking hate reddit so much its unreal.
Recons are good right now. Not broken, just very good as it should be for the vet with any gun. MKII is my favorite
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>>485487492
Shitters who can't keep up with plasma vets want it nerfed. I personally hate using it and i barely play vet but i don't mind it being this strong
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FIRE! METH! BEJEWELED!
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>>485483269
Driller and Gunner have full face helmets, Scout has a cap and goggles, Engineer has an open faced helmet. Short beards to give them a bit more of an operator look to them.
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>>485487901
What's wild is even the infantry Autoguns can melt elites efficiently with headshots on vet AND can clear shooter trash.
But plasma and revolver do it "too good" or something even though their ammo economy isn't that great.
I blame the fact that gunlugger ogryn is dogshit and they're just jealous
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lads... just let /cope/ die... we should also do a summer vacation until august...
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>>485485672
Hadron - Tech Autist
Sefoni - Psyker Autist
Hestia - Faithful Autist
The top 3 girls all have something in common.
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>>485488412
>Women 40k years later still play bejeweled
Timeless
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I don't play veteran much and I've genuinely not noticed that plasma is overpowered and wouldn't know if I didn't come here
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>>485490002
whats overpowered about it anyway? the fact that it slurps up more ammo than glugger makes it automatically mid even in the best circumstances to me
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>>485490053
>shoots charged shot at an elite patrol
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Gunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Scab Bomber
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Scab Sniper
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introducing quantity as the primary difficulty modifier then introducing weapons that can penetrate a near endless amount of elites was a real high IQ move on fatsharts behalf
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>>485487492
I still remember the reddit take for the longest time after class rebalance was veteran was by far the worst when shout vet was LITCHRALLY the strongest in the game even with their original mangled trees and still is, their takes are comical
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>>485491051
You can blame that one entirely on Assail
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>>485490695
>tfw the kill feed doesn't show when i kill too many at a time

>throw nuke at elite group
>friend: wow you must have killed over 20 guys
>what do you mean? It didn't do shit
>friend: my kill feed this got filled with your kills
Fix it, fatshark. I play darktide for the kills
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The level of skill in auric going down is actually good. People are quick to forget how astronomically boring this game is with 3 competent teammates running meta builds
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>>485491051
They still try to claim that btw. Reason?
>uhhh but u have to stand still for marksmans focus DERRRR
that's literally the entire thought process. Vet good? No way, you have to stand still for marksmans focus so he's not.
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>>485488862
>>485490053
Plasma's ammo economy and overall power level depends entirely on if the enemies are lined up in 100 man conga lines or not. Which can happen a lot since this garbage map design is often a long series of narrow hallways
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>>485491257
>The level of skill in auric going down is actually good
it does bring a certain level of fun
i like to ping high threat specials and elites only to ignore them and let them handle it. when teammates get netted i also watch them get fully downed before helping them. fire hazards are my absolute favorite as well, cause then they learn that fire = bad when i res them on top of it. they get barreled too if they ever shoot poxbursters when someone runs up to it to push

its the only way for impart lessons because everyone is soft and cant take criticism. if they cant learn then it is not my problem
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>>485491257
The complaints come from the people who you usually carry. The more of them there are of them and the less there are of us, the harder it is for them to ever complete an auric
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veterans literally shouldnt get a melee weapon just another gun and they should be permanently relegated to shooter clear
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gunlugger should have a talent where if anyone picks up ammo you get some
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>>485493115
your mom should only zuck mah deek
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>>485493218
i was thinking this exact same thing. did i fucking post this and forget about it? i literally cant fucking play the game as glugger when i have no ammo and i am actually sick and fucking tired of it
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>>485493356
you have to be the one to immediately grab any ammo crates and the first one to scoop up ammo
just how it is
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>4 zealot auric
>Someone says vacuum capsule
>Uh oh
>Turns out it was the smoothest and fastest map I've had in a while
>Ask what my true level is(I'm not a cheater)
>Over 9000
Did I match into a coopg premade?
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>>485493509
the problem is that the class is designed so that <90% of your efficacy is locked behind shooting which you can only do maybe 20% of the time
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Zealots should use only faith sabers.
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need veteran power fist
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>>485489105
Autism shall inherit the galaxy
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>>485493356
>>485493509
I'll play Gun Lugger if they give ogryns a heavy bolter
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>>485497786
They'll be too worried about making the bolter op so they'll make it shitty
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>>485499590
the last batch of weps they introduced are without exception real good
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>>485500817
the bolt pistol is kinda mid
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>>485500817
The mauls are good
The karsolas pickaxe is good
The other pickaxes are mediocre
The shotgun is mediocre at best
The bolt pistol is shit
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>Play ogryn
>Start slapping everything
>Get so much into it that I bitch slap the daemonhost
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Veteran should get ranged rending
Zealot should get melee rending
But for some reason Veteran gets both and zealot gets nothing
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>>485490695
>Blindly hipfire recon lasgun at chest height into horde
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Gunner
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Scab Bomber
>Vetfag has killed Dreg Shotgunner
>Vetfag has killed Scab Sniper
And I can almost instantly restore my teammate's (and my own) toughness using that trait no one ever takes.
Plasma is brainless fun, but it doesn't do anything most other guns dont do on vet
>>485493218
>>485493356
>Make a class with zero accurate ranged weapons
>Add shooter subclass
>Constantly nerf ammo capacity for zero reason
>80 second cooldown on ultimate ability
Abolish Sweden
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Did they ever restore zealots' ability to ledge monsters with the holy icon, or do the swedes still hate fun?
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>>485504129
Plasma can easily kill maulers, crushers and bulwarks (especially by shooting through their shields and staggering them). Even with the Onslaught talent I'm still spending a whole mag to kill a single crusher and that's after pointing at his head for 5 full seconds.
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>>485504132
Either they rolled it back or the patch unpatched it by accident which sounds retarded but happens constantly
>>485493356
>>485493509
Glugger should have a trait to start the mission with an ammo crate.
Bang, class fixed (sorta)
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>>485504132
The first and last pulse still knockback monstrosities, so it's still possible especially on very narrow catwalks like the first part of the new map.
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>>485504406
Are you using marksman's focus?
75% more weak spot and crit damage +10% rending really helps
Or just bring kraks LMAO
Building into right side just for brittleness takes too much away from your shooting/utility skills
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>>485501103
>>485501138
reminder that a weapon isn't bad just because it's not straight up broken OP like the revolver
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>>485506372
I don't need a reminder. The new guns just aren't good. I would say the new shotgun was decent if you could get a similar level of ammo efficency out of it as ogryns can get from the kickback
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CAMPUS

WOMPUS
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>>485506372
reminder that a weapon isn't good if it requires playing vet to function
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>>485507664
that's been pretty much every cross class gun they introduced
fucking faggots wont buff the agrippy revolver because vet can make good use of it but nobody else can
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>>485508348
I just use the cuckoldus AIG on my zealot
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>>485504129
Which recon is good now
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>>485512398
VId for constant shooting. VIIa for reasonable amount of shooting
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zealot should only be able to use pistols, shotguns, and autoguns. "normal people" weapons
vet gets to use pistols, flamer, plasma, and lasguns. "guardsman" weapons
psyker is redesigned and staves are dual wielded with pistols (similarly to ogryn battle maul and slab shield) with m1s now being hipfired pistol shots. small weapons only suitable for the weak and dainty
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>zealot shouldn't get a flamer
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>>485513389
glad youre not in charge
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>>485514683
yes. zealot is not cod, veteran is.
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I don't get why /coopg/ is so addicted to Darktide.
It's not even a good game.
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>>485513389
Ah yes. The ol' "let me post a retarded opinion for (you)s" trick
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>>485515125
warhammer nerds
>It's not even a good game
they're used to contending with worse
really, all the abuse from Fatshark must feel deeply nostalgic to them
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>>485491181
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/70
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>>485515125
its core gameplay is good and it has no real competition in its melee/hybrid combat niche other than its own predecessor.
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>>485515125
the parts of a game I value are good
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>>485515687
>its core gameplay
Is trash.
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I haven't quickplayed into the new map in like 4 days
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>>485515904
I love my gamba seshes though
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>>485515963
which server? ive gotten them consistently on NA west
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>>485515125
Its a good game, it's just that the devs are bad (Swedish)
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>>485515904
genuine dogshit opinion
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>>485517292
east
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>>485490695
make sure to to thank your plasmavet for carrying you.
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I've been playing ogryn a lot lately and I have to say there's nothing I hate more than mobs of generic shooter faggots. Unless you're running shield they're such a pain in the ass. I'd rather run unto a crusher patrol than a dozen shooty fuckers.
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>>485523429
Gotta learn how to slide and dodge slide to deal with them with any ogryn wep
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>>485515224
not having to worry about another class being capable of your gimmick but better means its a better system overall
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>>485525174
darktide doesn't have class locks and doesn't do anything to encourage balanced teams, why would that matter
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>>485525312
because if a capability isnt unique then there's no reason to use anything except the strongest one
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>Still no Mechanicus reject
>Still no Ratling reject
>Still no Kin reject
>Still no Genestealer enemy faction
>Still no Ork enemy faction
>Still no Plaguebearer boss
>Still no Plague Marine final boss
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>>485525870
A plaguebearer wouldnt be much of a boss considering the bosses already in game
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>>485525174
Your post suggested nothing that would solve that
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>>485526357
Make it a Herald then
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>>485525870
I dunno about Orks, man. They'd be a hell of a horde. Genestealers seem like they'd be easy to do, palette swap the shooters and some specials, add in purestrain elites and a Broodlord boss and voila.
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>>485526357
Indeed, Plaguebearers are just common footsoldiers. A Sorcerer (they can just recycle animations from ratclick) or Herald of Nurgle would make more sense as a boss.
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>>485526509
I've been wanting Greenskins as an enemy faction since VT1, but I guess it'd be way too many new skeletons and animations
At best they'd half-ass it like Beastmen in VT2
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>>485525758
why yes, every class should have exactly one weapon. any more would incentivize meta gaming because as we all know, balancing is a myth.
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>>485525870
i would have gladly taken fatshark delaying the game a year to release close to what we have now so we COULD have received some of what you mentioned by this point. then again, i could say that for nearly every new release.
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>>485526509
A regular human would be able to kill lots of grots and squigs easily, but the rejects beating a horde of ork boyz like Titus is definitely going to suspend disbelief a bit, even by 40k standards. Not every Guardsman Joe can be Straken or Yarrick.
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>>485526706
I think it'd work for Orcs, but Orks are bigger and tougher too. It would just feel wrong to be scything down hordes of nearly Ogryn sized football hooligans that are shooting bolters at you.
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>>485525870
>Kin reject
Anon there is nowhere near enough lore on the Leagues of Votann for that.
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>>485513389
This post makes me appreciate Fatshark design and that should be pretty telling
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>>485527253
They could just be a small collective of miners like the Ironhead prospectors, who haven't been keeping in touch with the other nu-Squats.
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>>485525870
>>485526357
With how blatant they are with reusing assets, I can see a chaos sorcerer of nurgle (Nurgloth/Burblesque) being revealed as one of the main perpetrators for this incursion.
Give him a halberd and he can have the stormvermin warlord as his melee moveset. A one handed bilespewer (troll vomit/beast of nurgle vomit) and there's his ranged option aside from whatever powers he can use.
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>>485528362
yikes :/
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>>485528362
big oof
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>>485528362
One whole yike my duderino.
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>>485528362
Is there anything more revolting than a redditor?
I'm not even saying it's not racist, but the way they react to it is simply inhuman.
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>>485528362
Okay fag now show me how based and redpilled the Darktide subreddit is
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>>485528362
you made all four of those posts
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>>485529789
Once I pretended to be offended by a comment and got 200 upvotes
Not meme-ing
At the end of the day spamming nigger and faggot here for 0 (you)s is better for my soul
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>>485523714
I mean yeah, that helps but you're still so big that you're going to take some shots.
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>>485527204
We have ogryns, our power level is relatively high.
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>going for no death in auric penance
>doing just fine
>vet instinctively shoots the burster approaching me before i can push it
>i get blow off the platform and die
just another day in the office 8)
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>>485527204
>>485526509
We're already doing shit you'd expect to need a space marine to pull off, maybe even a grey knight. The writers made our "disposable rejects" stronger than any no name death row inmates would ever be.
We're cleaving through literally thousands of heretics, chaos-made monstrosities and actual daemons per mission. The only difference between us and an SM squad is that we look like shitty hobos.
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>>485532541
Yeah but feels right.
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>>485532882
"feels right" and "feels good in the moment" are not the same thing
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>>485532541
What's hilarious about that is that there's lots of random banter about the possibility for spess mehreens or bolter bitches to help that is quickly dismissed as improbable. If 4 expendable penal troopers can slaughter thousands of heretics, the power scaling would imply that a squad of SoBs can purge the entire hive and a squad of SMs can purge the entire planet.
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We have the power of being the main characters of the story.
Ultimate survivor Veteran
Actual holy power zealot
Stable unsanctioned psyker
Genius Ogryn
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>>485533171
is the psyker confirmed unsanctioned? seems kinda retarded even by inquisition standards to not sanction them real quick to not make the tertium situation even worse. then again we aren't supposed to survive in the lore so its probably deemed a waste of resources.
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>>485533672
how could a psyker possibly be that much of a heretic and get sanctioned?
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>>485533857
main character

german psyker is the mainest character, in fact
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>>485533672
They're technically sanctioned if they're working for the inquisition, but to get really sanctioned they'd need to go to Terra.
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>>485533672
Tertium's situation is evidently so bad that Inquisitor Grendyl had to resort to coercing a whole Rogue Trader ship to be his HQ and throwing hastily conscripted penal legionnaires at the problem. The metalfab missions also imply that any severe loss in war manufacturing capability will tip the balance in the heretics' favor.
I suppose that if the psyker doesn't accidentally tear a hole in reality while wearing that toilet lid around their head, they're safe enough to deploy unattended. Normally, even sanctioned psykers are kept watch by their superiors and get blammed if they lose control.
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>>485532541
You think adding killing thousands of Orks in a mission would make this better, worse, or the same?
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>>485532541
Should have made Darktide a helldiverslike and had your reject canonically be replaced every time they die.
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>>485535216
a basic ork boy is significantly stronger than a plague zombie or malnourished heretic with a club, so it would be a lot worse.
if the writers tried to avoid escalating, ork boyz would be rare and we'd mostly be cutting down gretchin
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>>485535763
That just sounds like it would be a little bit shit. Come for the WAAAGH and get the wegh.
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>>485535216
Morrow would be proud at least
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>>485536534
Yeah, 40k's power scaling isn't really built around regular, unaugmented humans.
Look at any scenario and consider "could four guardsmen handle this?". Almost all of the scenarios where the answer is "yes" are pretty tame.
Even in space marine(the game), where the main characters are ultramarines(a chapter known for writer favoritism, in a faction known for writer favoritism), you'd usually be fighting just tens of orks at a time. And people mostly thought "that's about right for an MC ultramarine".
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Hellgun added in yet?
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>>485528362
>Ask for a slur
>Get a slur
>Respond like this
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>>485532541
What if we are Grendyl?
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>>485512398
>>485512983
MKII is slept on, but it has good ammo efficiency and 50% more damage than the IIa plus it doesn't anchor you while firing. Compared to VLd it does 30% less damage but fires faster and has twice the mag size.
Everyone else here says it sucks but me brain biggerer.
For blessings roll headhunter and dumdum for damage or stripped down for running at shooters like a retard
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>>485539272
Just the Good Ol' Plasma Gun
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>>485541718
They added another pattern? What's it like?
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>>485542481
>he doesn't know
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>>485542627
I really don't.
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>>485543082
There is no new plasma gun, they fucked up some video recently talking about a longlas or some other weapon that isn't actually in game and then they tried to cope by saying it was a plasma gun. At least, that's my understanding of it. I didn't actually see it either lol
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>>485543082
fatshark CM sperged out in comments of a jewtube video they put out
>audio hints towards radium weapons
>people start speculating if we're getting melta, radium guns, etc
>"no it's just the good old plasma gun that's already in the game" x 50
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>>485543501
>>485543509
That's weird. Why even say anything?
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doing my best to get recon las nerfed again
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>>485544130
Panic? Arrogance? Miscommunication? ESL? Perhaps they didn't want to add on to the mounting disappointments of
>no patch
>no solo mode
>no _____
Take your pick. You'd have better luck throwing bones to divine the future meaning than trying to interpret what goes on in the mind of a Fatshark employee.
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>>485501103
it's the stupid recoil pattern, it doesn't reset properly and bounces all over the fucking place
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>>485544130
>>485544901
>no patch
meant no crafting update
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>>485515904
wrong lol
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>>485544130
It recently became known that strawhat is a woman so I'm guessing she just got confused and thought she had to damage control when there wasn't an issue
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>>485532438
based campus wompus bro
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>>485545321
I like strawhat so far. She at least seems to be answering questions, unlike Catfish who I'm still not exactly sure what she did there. She responded to like 10 random posts a month, and never anything that even approached a satisfying answer. She seemed to stop responding to people period after she accidentally let it slip that Fatshark also takes post-vacation vacations for another month after they get back from the first vacation. Well hopefully Fatshark will start releasing a lot of content for Darktide after they finish the PlayStation port.
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>point blank barrage
>equip kickback
>steal all the ammo
>do all the damage
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>>485548195
She's neither a dumb whore like catfish nor is she obnoxious and arrogant. She seems overwhelmed but I dont really care I would be too if I was responsible for fatshark communications
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rog n ston :DDDD
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Can't say I'm excited about Vermintide 2 getting new weapons. Given do to GW's lore autism, it'll likely not be used by WP, again.
But I guess new weapons at least spices up potential PVP meta's in the future.
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ded
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would you recommend rockay city to summon who never really like payday or grinding heist in GTA?
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>>485528362
that's not even a good one
Glygger
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>>485554468
I like the game buy no, if you don't like heist games you're probably not going to like a heist game.
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>>485386547
raytracing is so fucking unoptimized. i have a 3070 and it cant even pull 30 frames. elden ring and everything elts i get 60+ at max raytracing.
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>>485556158
two years ago someone at nvidia looked at darktide and thought, "yep, this game is perfect to pair with our 3000 series cards to show how good they are"
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>>485556978
Full
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>Burning dog jumpscares me from behind the flames
Spooky...
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>>485517292
oh hey i've probably played with you, stay in my aurics
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>>485556158
I don't think it's correct to say ray tracing is unoptimized. It's more that it was false advertising to pretend anything except current generation high end nvidia cards could reasonably handle it, just as it would be dishonest to advertise a geforce series 8 GPU as being capable of comfortably running the witcher 3 at max settings or something.
Sure, the 3070 "can" ray trace, just like my old 970 "could" "run" crysis at max settings.
I'm of the opinion that ray tracing is a meme right now, and it won't be a practical selling point for the average gamer until the power floor of GPUs rises to the point that the low end of a GPU generation is powerful enough for it. Basically, contemporary consoles or XX50s will need to be powerful enough to do ray tracing at 30 fps before it's actually practical.
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>>485534967
glyggers as I like to call them
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>>485558539
oh hey it is probable, and i will thanks
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>>485526575
We do need a horde boss. Less health individually but there are a lot of them and they do just as much damage in melee. Plaguebearers can be balanced by being slow so they don't swarm you like Ragers, but it should be worse when they manage to do so.
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>>485485672
She's mean to me :(
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I took the revolver pill.
why do people cry about the plasma when this monster exists?
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>>485562218
because plasma is better
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>>485562218
>5 shots
>snub nose
it's a purse gun
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>>485563817
>swap to melee
>+80% damage
>kill something
>swap back to revolver which now has more ammo and +80% damage
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>>485564982
Where are you getting these numbers?
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>>485565168
My ass. I don't have the actual numbers on hand but the quickswap build is very fun and very powerful.
I'd recommend an axe or chainsword with it so you can mash attacks that don't need to be powered up.
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>suddenly started getting consistent motion sickness when playing Darktide
it's officially over for me
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>>485565780
inferior
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>>485558826
>4090
>45fps average at 4k
Holy fuck what a waste of money. What's the average at 1440?
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>>485565437
What are the benefits to taking smoke and sacrificing the ability to 1shot multiple crushers and stunlock monsters?
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>>485567434
he gets to take 10% rending for his chainsword
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>>485567434
what are the benefits of playing anything but columnus 5 psyker? Not playing optimal shit is fun because it gives you more issues to overcome + smokes do have their unique strengths to fuck around with
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>>485567779
dont post your shitty "fun" builds around here pal
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>>485567434
Like >>485567559 said it was just for the extra 2 points at the bottom.
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>>485568235
It's not shitty, I get most damage every single game with that build, typically by a very wide margin.
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>>485474151
That paint job, helmet and armour are available on all classes.
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>>485568423
yah yah so does everyone here, kiddo.
be honest with your self and have the decency to admit youre not doing three things. 1shotting crusher packs, stun locking monsters, haivng a good build.
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>>485525870
All you had to say was
>Still no anything of note that has substantially changed the game in any way
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>>485569470
I can 1-shot crushers. The only problem is when there isn't any chaff for me to kill to instantly reload to keep doing it for a whole patrol.
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>>485544130
Because they're really concerned about people building up hype around shit that's not coming. At the height of last year it was Tyranids, which somehow ended up being literally nothing. Shadow in the warp? Sister city that's been taken over that you're not allowed to talk about? Xenos sightings? Nah, it was just the good old nurgle cult.
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>>485570038
A very odd marketing strategy to say the least.
It really seem like they commissioned a small team to make 100 vox com videos before the game released based on their grand schemes about what this new epic Warhammer Life Service game will be.
And then after release they have spent their entire time getting the game to their intened release state.
They've got a big stack of pre-made vox teasers they can use to build hype. But nothing to hype.
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Why is the block list so fucking small
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>>485572951
you should learn to be nice to people and then you can make some more skilled friends so that you dont have to be as patient as you do with pubbies
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>>485567164
I think it's around 70 or 80
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What are some vet builds
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krak ammo shout
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i'm the jonathan "sugarfoot" moffett of sucking dick
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>still playing dead divers
lel
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>>485574670
whats the point of taking shout when wallhacks actually help you deal with the bigger threat (shooter mobs)
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>>485575090
I got ya big threat right 'ere sah *unzips dick*
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>>485575090
lmao this nigga still using exe stance and actually shooting shooters
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>>485575090
Does your character shout out CAMPUS WOMPUS when you activate executioners stance?
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>>485575250
*activates power sword* come any closer and you're going to get rent asunder
>>485575375
unironically, genuinely, actually yes lmao
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I do not like power sword because its so slow. I am a chainsword enjoyer.
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>>485575690
I hate the "press special to make it good" weapons, it gets really old having to activate over and over and over. Chaxe being the one exception since it absolutely fucks even without revving.
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>>485575874
do you ever use the chainaxe button or does it really just not need it
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Give weapons a temperature meter. You activate the weapon and it builds heat and you have to turn it off after a while to prevent overheating (which makes your dick fall off or something idk)
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>>485575974
Revving the chaxe is worthwhile sometimes sure, but it can easily get by with just mashing lights into elites and heavies into hordes. Unrevved light attacks hit really hard even against carapace and stagger the fuck out of every kind of elite. Revved heavies are good to do sometimes into crushers/bulwarks or bosses though. Only talking about the mk IV by the way, I don't use the other variant because it feels worse to me.
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>>485576246
i dont think actually anybody likes the mk not-4 so that honestly went without saying
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Did they significantly reduce the "colorful dialogue" between rejects somewhat recently? Aside from call outs and mission specific lines they don't seem to talk to each other anymore.
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>>485569470
this retarded shitter needs to minmax to do well lol
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ogryn
>lascannon
>autocannon
>heavy bolter
>heavy flamer
>regular stubber
>brute revolver
>two-handed chainaxe
>two-handed maul
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>>485576861
No, you're not allowed fun 40k weapons. You will enjoy your reject slop
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>>485481962
>Psyker
Dueling sword
>Vet
Knife or Chainaxe
>Zealot
Knife or chain axe
>Ogryn
???
Simple as
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>>485577107
:(
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>>485574845
got a slot?
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>>485577209
nobody joined so I closed the game :/
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>>485577867
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>>485577867
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what's the deal with all the recent co-op games like Lethal Company, Content Warning, Murky Divers?
the last one seems the most interesting just because it's underwater
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>>485580107
Streamer bait
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holy fuck they need to remove that stupid toggle everytime you swap to the helbores. absolutely kills these fucking guns for me.

also why the hell are the bayonet attacks able to two shot most elites and specials lmao
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>>485580868
cause you can't push or block with them and switching back from a weapon that can does the little toggle animation
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>>485529789
because they are so neutered they can't even properly insult you. It has to be some back-handed disapproval
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>>485580868
Wow, its almost like point 2 is the reason for point 1.
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>>485580868
Slow weapon swap time is used for balancing weapons in this game. As well as giving "identity".
That doesn't stop it from being frustrating. It especially isn't helped by the animations that look like the wielder is taking their sweet time, or taking unnecesary actions. The switch on the Hellbore or cocking the Boltgun every time even if it doesn't make mechanical sense are big examples.
A recent one I laugh at every time I see it is the way you spend a whole second giving the empty magazine a little upward throw when reloading the Bolt Pistol. Just drop the damn thing!
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>>485584046
>conveniently forgets the executioner stance instantly pulls the gun when the situation is dire

You have a hard hitting weapon that can also stab shit why the fuck would you constantly swap like a drugged monkey
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>>485577867
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>>485585924
Full?
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>really like it when a Vet who is using Exec Stance brings the shared outlines talent when I play any other class
>feels like I'm wasting a point if I take it in my own builds
I hate feeling so selfish. It's honestly a huge benefit to the team to be able to share wallhacks on priority targets. But those kills could be mine...
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>>485589302
The problem with shared wallhack is that the vet using it won't get the duration refresh if a teammate steals the kill, same problem with Disrupt Destiny.
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People complaining about me not using the Medicae as Zealot on Heresy are fucking annoying.
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slop rotation is particulary disgusting this week
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>>485594550
psykah
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>>485594550
>The welding mask doesn't have a voice effect
3/10
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does anyone here want to play killing floor 1?
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>>485595027
voice effects automatically ruin any skin though, they universally sound retarded and terrible
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>>485594550
That vet set is one of the most comically terrible things ive ever seen, aren't those literally just normal credit shop items barring the headpiece?
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>>485594550
>pederast salbarin
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>>485594550
Zeeloot
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>>485595093
It announces to the world I'm a paypiggy and thats important
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>>485594550
>Vet
4/10
>Zealot
4/10
>Psyker
6/10
>Ogryn
5/10

Overwhelmingly meh
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>>485594550
Vetrun
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I kind of like the headpiece for psyker.
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>>485595124
>Saria Aubergine
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>>485595191
The Zealot's scrap armour outfit seems quite alright. Wish there was also more of a proper knight themed outfit in that style.
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>>485595454
It's amazing how every slop rotation is worse than the previous one but there's always one guy who will find his own diamond in this steaming pile of shit. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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>>485595453
disgusting recolor of the catachan set
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TAKE ME OUT TO THE SLOP SHOP
TAKE ME OUT WITH THE PIGS

BUY ME SOME RECOLOR AND SCRAP
I DON'T GET IF I NEVER GET BACK

LET ME ROOT FOR FARTSHART
IF THEY DON'T UPDATE IT'S A SHAME

FOR IT'S ONE, TWO, THREE SLOP YOU OINK

AT THE OLD DARTIIIIIIIDE
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>>485595951
https://youtu.be/KnHUeaOff0s
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Everyday Helldivers 2 is getting closer to Darktide's playercount, Glory to Eternal Sweden mashallah
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>>485596475
You seem to have cropped your image suspiciously far to the right, lets see that next number...huh whats this...oh no no no this cant be happening
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>>485597003
cope and seethe, dead game
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>>485597085
>haha, look darksisters the other coop game will soon be as dead as our dead game.
the player coonter mindset
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>>485597403
Remember when Hellsissies said their game will won the game of the year award?
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>>485597719
maybe one day Arrowhead will win the prestigious "best on-going game award" or as it is more popularly known as BO-GGA like the very live service game Warhammer:40kDarktide™ with its constant stream on new paypiggy dress up doll content every month for years on end.
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Helldivers 2 was shilled by the masses, and as everything they shill, it's doomed to disappear quickly as their worship shift to another flavor of the month
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crab bucket mentality
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>the camo packs they sold a while back doesn't apply to new weapons
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Darktide is just a shit game
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>>485598308
No, the reason it was doomed from the start is because it was made by sw*des
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no idea how anyone can even begin to defend Darkshite when the premium cash shop gets more content updates than the fucking game itself
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Crafting will save Darktide. And then the snoy port will kill it again. But after that the mission select rework will save Darktide.
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>>485598975
Fatshark would put out a mission select rework that took 3 months simply to remove the random menu and not put out a single new mission to go with it.
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>>485598975
Why the fuck can't they just release the game on all platforms at the same time and work on the game afterwards? Why the fuck do they have to half ass everything and limp around doing less than the bare minimum on all different places.
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i want to play helldivers but I don't want to burn out on this type of game before edf6 launches because i 100% know Im going to mainline that game for months
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>>485596141
This is still so surreal to me, it doesn't feel real.
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>>485599309
I still play both helldivers and edf5 while waiting for 6
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dude was a rando, please dont send him too many pizzas
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So let me get this straight
Ratclick works with the lobby code function but shartnfarttide doesn't?
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>>485601047
There's no steam invite to join a strike team?
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When the itemization rework condenses all marks into 1 weapon you can switch between, how will the $10 skins reconcile this?
>all skins can be applied to all variants because they have the same goddamn model
>skins can only be arbitrarily applied to 1 variant because the paypigs will never revolt
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>>485601216
No, you have to use the in game social tab. You dont have to add people, but you need the code to join their squad
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>>485601662
>>all skins can be applied to all variants
That's how it works already, wtf are you on about?
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>>485594550
DAMN! The Chinese sweatshop workers really cooked with this one.
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>>485602512
How should I know, I'm not retarded enough to buy a skin. All I see is the store pages have version numbers.
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>>485603012
Nothing retarded about buying commissary skins. You sound like a shazamtranny looking hard for a reason to get offended.
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>>485525870
>Mechanicus reject
>A full set of super unique weapons to choose from
>All sorts of elemental and probably status-effect inflicting guns like arc weapons, phosphor weapons, radiation weapons, melta weapons, graviton weapons etc.
>Gets to instantly complete any hacking/computer minigame (like how Orgyn trivializing carrying things)
>Various implants added to the skill tree as talents, perhaps replacing grenades with pseudo-abilities that can be used over and over on cooldown
>Actual abilities probably include a Magos talent line that involves buffing the fuck out of everyone nearby with an active ability to summon combat servitors like Necromancer's skeletons in VT2, and maybe some more esoteric Mechanicus stuff like having an Electro-Priest talent line that could possibly have a activatable electricity aura which stuns nearby enemies (without stopping the reject from shooting, so they can still kill things while STOONING), and a Genetor talent line that involves healing and rezzing teammates, maybe an ability that works like a weaker med pack

I would play the fuck out of this
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>>485605564
your ideas are shit
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>>485606537
So what are your ideas then?
Surely you have some really good ideas and aren't just being a naysaying faggot, right anon?
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I HATE OGRYN PENANCES
I HATE OGRYN PENANCES
I HATE OGRYN PENANCES
I HATE OGRYN PENANCES
I HATE OGRYN PENANCES
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>>485569470
>NOOO YOU TOOK THE WRONG SKILL YOU RUIN GAMES
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>>485595951
>dartide
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>>485607561
I slopped this, just like the game
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>completely disregarded trauma staff at launch
>felt like it had zero use, and didn't really do anything besides disrupt everyones flow and didn't even kill pox walkers with a max damage roll
>just recently crafted a trauma staff to give a second chance
>It feels so strong that I find it hard to ever go back to surge or void ever again
Is purgatus a similar story? I had completely disregarded purgatus as well, trauma is my new go to for aurics.
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>>485607835
every staff (apart from Surge) trivializes the game
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>>485607835
Purg+Scriers is a very consistent source of damage vs all enemies, its a safety net for when your teammates arent pulling their weight. In its ideal situation, you are borderline untouchable and are the backup carry on the team.

The downside is that you have to be constantly killing in order to stay invincible. If you are on the other side of the room from gunners with no melee elites to be burning then you are boned. Kinda the same situation as tramua, desu
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>>485535491
Even then I die far more rarely in darktide than I do in helldivers
It's not uncommon to go for streaks of 20+ games without dying, while in helldivers I'll be shot in the back by a teammate if I haven't done my duty and died for Super Earth within the last 2 minutes
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>>485609062
What does the scriers tree look like? I admittedly haven't played without my cope bubble in a very, very long time.
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>>485609818
this is what I use now that Scriers and Warp Charge CDR work properly. Your choice what Blitz you use, just know that if you dont take BR then you lose access to Wildfire
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>>485610795
How does warp battery work for BB? I usually always take empowered for my BB trees because of the enhanced charge and damage letting me oneshot almost all specials in a relatively fast time
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>>485611026
the penance?
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>>485611243
Warp siphon*, whatever it's called, the leftmost keystone
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>>485611307
If you were to set up a BR build you would want EP, since empowered BR is +50% more damage instead of +24% from WS. But dont build specifically for it. BR is in my tree mostly because of Kinetic Flayer and the occasional sniper/bomber/dog kill.
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>>485597719
reminder that this post was made by someone who posted:
>Darktide GOTY 2023
>Darktide GOTY 2023
>Darktide GOTY 2023
exactly 28 times in various /coopg/ threads last year.
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>>485609062
>Kinda the same situation as tramua
Trauma still has the blaze bolt, which has a huge amount of suppression. A single bolt near gunners interrupts their shooting, 2-3 shuts them down. It's an underappreciated tool in psyker's kit.
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>>485569470
are you really trying to act tough in a pve game?
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Are any staffs particularly good at monstrosities, or am I better off with empowered BB?
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>>485613720
I remember the ball staff being able to stun when you hit a charged balls in the weakspot. Empowered BB still seems to be the better option
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Chaospill me on taxes
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>>485613720
Voidstrike with Surge can do decent damage and stagger, otherwise no

>>485614248
they are basically knives on the end of a stick, they fill the same purpose
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>>485614248
Not worth paying because it goes to the ((high lords of terra))
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>>485515904
Correct but these people have no taste so it's pointless
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No need to samefag a day later broski
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>>485615290
Correct but these people have no taste so its pointless
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>>485599256
because it costs like $20,000 to upload a patch to consoles.
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>>485615784
console gaming and its consequences has been a disaster for the gamer race
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>>485614589
heres your taxe, bro
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>>485386160
It's great actually. But we've played it to death so we want more.
Ask again in 2 months.
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>saw darktide steam post
>it's them announce they are going to summer vacation
Any other co-op game to play bro
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>>485605564
Very good ideas. You should be working as an associate game designer.
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>>485605564
that's nice but requires too much efforts from these lazy and arrogant cunts
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ME GUD
ME TEAM BAAD
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>>485620327
>ME GOODEST PLAYER DO GOOD THING
>tEAM BAD DO BAD THING
>SHIT PANT
>SCREAM
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>>485614589
Do you run as fast woth them? If so why don't we see more stealth zealots with those? If not then the question answers itself I guess.
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You know, I looked in the slop shop in darktide thinking "hey this actually looks decent, let me check how expensive it is" and man, £9 for a full outfit? No way, fatshark. I don't mind buying cosmetics sometimes for a game I like but if the pricing is worse than fallout 76 I'm going to have to decline. Even the cheaper stuff in the shop I have to avoid on principle now. Surely they could've just made stuff cheaper and had more people going "ahh i'll slop a little why not"?
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>>485621785
get For The Drip and FTD Extra
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZXBm1NXBaI
Deep rock bros?
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>>485621785
My personal block that keeps me from doing it is the fomo store. So you put in what is essentially a "support the devs" store that gives you some cosmetics for an obviously very high price. But then you dont fucking let me pick what I want to support you with, instead employing some chink core system that gacha games use? fuck off!!
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>Toonking ogryn with the bionicle skin in my auric
forgot to block him after
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>>485622790
I can't believe they still exist and are in the wild. I thought the tooooonk species had been long since extinct. Got jumpscared by one the other day and thought to myself damn, they arent all dead
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>>485622790
>>485623204
What the fuck is toonking? Do they just run to the middle of the room and plant the shield?
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>>485623412
Yes
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>>485623412
Yes, that's exactly it.
They walk up in front of everyone and just plant the shield down and don't do anything else.
The guy I watched did it to such great extent that he would get swarmed during auric damnation and swould get hit in the sides, and would refuse to still take the shield up.
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my favorite is when a trapper shows up and rapes them and then they whine about no team support. Sorry kinda busy playing 3man while you just afk with the shield up
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just carried a game planting my shield and getting them AGGROS bros.
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It's okay, sah. I can take it.
*dies*
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>>485621421
they have mobility as a stat, but they do not have the movespeed bonus during heavy attacks
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>>485614248
The only reward for loyalty is betrayal.
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>>485621421
They are slightly less mobile than knives and have unga bunga blessings like Headtaker/Shred/BM to kill hordes faster, but their anti armor is worse with Uncanny Strike and the gorrillion finesse damage knives have so you won't be killing elites/ogryns as fast.
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>>485605564
anon the simple truth is that nobody here has the ability to be genuinely excited for anything and you shouldn't make posts like this here because jaded cynical contrarians will call it cringe because they aren't capable of feeling actual wonder or hype anymore
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>>485625719
I'm excited for the crafting rework. Also will get to finish wars not over when the snoy update happens. Good times soon.
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Psycker is so boring, the class needs at least 2 extra columns. Its cool they have an example of every psychic discipline and its most common power but there has got to be more. Give me dead space esque stasis abilities or being able to fire a melta beam. Or maybe mind controlling enemies to make them attack eachother for a bit. Or maybe being able to go metal mario briefly, becoming all but invincible for a short time. The class would really benefit from way more gimics moreso than any other. Bonus points if this means the psycker skill tree looks schizophrenic
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>>485625719
>feeling actual wonder or hype
over some random anon's ideas that will never be implemented? I still have /wfg/'s 2013 design documents that were formatted and sent to DE before being ignored, fatshark is even more arrogant than steve and fatfuck were.
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>>485625719
>anymore
Try ever.
I remember posting ideas I had for Payday 2 in /v/ back in like 2015, I had wanted medics to be added to the game as enemies since I thought that there were enemy equivalents to each skill tree except for Mastermind. Enforcer had Bulldozer as its equivalent, Technician had Taser, Ghost had Cloaker etc.
I thought that Mastermind should get a medic equivalent and /v/ called it a shit idea.
Lo and behold, the next year medics were added.
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>>485626492
I wish the staves were more fun to play with, they trivialize the game for sure, but man it's just so boring being an m2 holding bot for 80% of the mission.
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>>485626953
medics were shit thoughbeitever?
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>>485625719
You realize we're talking about Fatshark here, right.
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>>485625719
I am excited for a lot of things
But they always let me down
Life is like that
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>>485625719
100% true and the angry replies just confirm it
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>>485627732
This is the realest comment in the thread
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>>485594550
Looks like orc clothes, especially the ogryn
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>>485629297
Bully is just a pink skinned Ork anyway
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>>485625719
im quoting you with a soijak
>>485627878
samefag
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just bought rockay city 10 minutes before the sale ended
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>>485623552
I'M GONNA TOOONK! AHHHHH I'M TOONKING
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>>485625719
The simple truth is anything fatshart puts out is typically underwhelming and/or behind schedule. There is simply no reason to be "hype"
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>>485632717
It really makes me laugh with the plasmagun situation. They had to STOP hype in it's tracks so people wouldn't get carried away. Because they put out a retarded vox.
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>>485632237
>t. STOONING psyker
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>>485584891
>Instaswaps to ranged
>Doesn't reload
>Doesn't restore toughness
So the big bonus is you can pull out your gun fast? Sounds great if there isn't a horde in your face, but now hordes spawn from the closet closest to you, meaning while your playing duck hunt on the yellow guys there are 15 poxwalkers beating your ass.
Best part? Instead of rolling back some of the 20 nerfs to stance they'll nerf the other 2 skills
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>>485607835
Yes especially if you have a good build for it. Take most of the talents along the left side of the tree like perilous combustion and wildfire. I've heard that scrier's gaze is good with the purgatus because the extra crits apply soulblaze faster, but I've never really liked using it and prefer venting shriek with creeping flames. The purgatus applies a maximum of 16 stacks of soulblaze iirc so long as the burn stat is at least 76%, so creeping flames can cap it off at 22 stacks on bosses so long as your peril is at least 85% when you vent. Cloud radius should be maxed, take crit chance for the first perk and either flak or maniac for the second. Blessings should be warp nexus + warp flurry.
I once got 1.1 mil damage with the purgyattus, but that was on a no ammo pickups mission so obviously it was mostly melee enemies and my teamates were mostly using melee. It really shines on no ammo pickups missions with large groups of maulers, it doesn't kill one very efficiently but it damages all of them over time. Just keep your reticle focused on the densest part of the horde with the secondary and vent as soon as your peril is 85% and I promise you that your name will fill the entire kill feed. The primary is also useful for it's relatively strong stagger, it can save you if you accidently find yourself overwhelmed by enemies at close range, venting shriek helps with that too.
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>>485634130
I use run and gun so I can sprint up to shooters and stagger them with flames
It even staggers ragers
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>>485633172
>Healthbar retard standing there like a moron not helping any of his 3 teammates.
Every time this webm is posted it's just a self own. And before you start making assumptions, I use Bb as my blitz.
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>>485633172
>LOOK I'M STOONDING
>I'M STOONDING AROUND
>STOOOONDING PERFECTLY STILL, NOT MOVING AN INCH
>I'M STOOOOONDING
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>>485633172
why are soihammerfags like this?
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>>485625719
I wonder why that is
>Shopclick gets content once/twice a year
>DRG has been stale forever
>Helldivers keeps adding (selling) toy guns
>Payday 3 (lmao)
>Killing floor 2 spent years adding shit no one likes
>Remnant 2 only gets only nerfs and dlcs (still doesn't even have text chat)
>EDF is just a reskin of the previous games
How could I possibly still have any hype or excitement for coop games?
It's not that these games are necessarily bad, but 90% of the news related to them are fucking bad. I wouldn't shit on anons ideas but no wonder no one shows excitement and he gets the middle finger.
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>>485634130
>prefer venting shriek with creeping flames
in my experience, the consistent % damage bonuses from Scriers are better overall rather than all that setup
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>>485635640
so why are you still here, doomer?
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>>485635248
Man I'm glad I don't spend money on anything GW makes anymore.
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>>485635869
So you can't read, got it.
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>>485633172
>Needing to cheat in a coop game
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>>485635889
yup yup
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https://youtu.be/8ZXBm1NXBaI
sovl time
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>>485635248
>>485635889
>>485636195
of all the things to hate about GW, this has got to be the lamest. Justified, but fucking weak
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>>485636195
Ain't that the truth.

>>485636319
Go ack yourself tranny.
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>>485635701
Maybe, I haven't really tested it myself, but the ability to instantly apply 6 stacks of soulblaze to every enemy in a cone in front of you is not something to be underestimated, it adds up very fast. I think it's also all around easier for most players to use and helps with survivability a lot. It's stagger is one thing, but if you have kinetic deflection and know how to dodge slide you can survive against a demonhost pretty much indefinitely.
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>>485636195
>>485636386
I'm gonna say it, KKK aesthetics fit perfectly into wh40k and I think it's kinda lame that no fantasy can ever touch pointy hooded zealots again because of this. Like that's an entire fantasy aesthetic that's blacklisted. And why is it? Like you can show someone wearing american soldier outfits even though they tortured japs in internment camps. Everything has bad baggage, doesn't mean it's not cool to look at and stylistically. Fucking gay man
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>>485594550
I actually like the Psyker outfit
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>>485636386
complain about GW fucking over creators or selling horrible kits, nigger
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>>485637973
>I actually like the Psyker outfit
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>>485638645
ok retard
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>>485636386
Some of the Darktide zealot cosmetics actually do have pointed hoods, just a damn shame they're all unworn and we'll never get to see them used, especially on the white one from the commissary.
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>>485638180
More than one thing can be true at once. They can have shit writers, business practices, AND be promoting trannies. I know that's hard for your HRT brain to comprehend.
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>horde
>Player clearing ,some horde coming at his back
>decide to rush there to cover his six
>he fucks off for some reason and gifts me a nice pack of ragers at my back
>In the middle of the chaotic melee I can see him in another room, walking, not swinging his weapon
I have lived this scenario 1000 times and I'm still not sure why some people do this.
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I feel like announcing to anyone who doesn't know that the hub menu hotkey mod allows you to view the crafting interface and everything else from within the training area. Makes everything way smoother if you fuck with builds a lot.
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>>485641304
you forgot the biggest sin GW has committed, being british
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>>485641631
Dam I didn't know about that. Fucking modders not naming their shit properly. Good info anon
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>>485641705
I figured that went without saying.
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>>485643390
>blizzard in progress
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>>485643917
SEMEN LOW!
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>>485633172
>he lets his other teammates get wailed on because one of them is smigging
Stay out of my Malice.
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>>485634614
I appreciate that he made the webm at the cost of his own performance, it shows how much smitefags actually help
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Anyone knows what are some factions fighting with each other in The Forever Winter? At first I thought that war was between united human military and AI machines/cyborgs, but now I think it's one big clusterfuck where different nations fight between each other, AI war machines and scavengers.
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>>485641525
I've lived it 1001 times and I'm not sure why I bother helping them anymore.
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>>485644497
>spic language structure
>makes sure to spell the entire game name out in full
>"theorizes" about the setting as if listing features the game has
This is your reminder that paid marketting is well and alive even on 4chan, even on /vg/. How much do they pay you, Miguel?
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>>485644698
They've been astroturfing that shitty looking game for weeks now.
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>>485644698
>>485644920
Take your meds you absolute skinnyfat losers lmaoooooooooooooo
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>>485645113
spic histrionics are hilarious man it's like i'm browsing a console war thread on /v/
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>>485645403
jajajaja youve got a problem, gringo???
you're being replaced in usa as we speak and there is nothing you can do about it jajajaja.
your little white clitties are nothing compared to our orange cocks that were puming white pussies with. now slit your throat, fatass.
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>>485645113
HAHA Yeah, upvote for you fellow user! Please tell your egirl pitboss to tip you an extra ruble for your hard work advertizing their slop
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>>485645403
>>485645750
mayo monkey faggots
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>>485644493
He could've filmed the psyker while effortlessly picking up the guy in the next room to prove that he's better. He opted to add burden to the team instead. Would you really rather have that guy on your team knowing that he's just lurking behind you waiting for an opportunity to film you and throw the game?
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>>485646631
better footage this way
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>>485627284
Good missions, fun lobby. I've fallen in love with the machine guns so much that I can rarely ever stop taking them. They're such a blast now, HMG on bots and MMG for bugs, it's just so satisfying now ever since the changes.
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>>485646849
Yeah, gifted cameramen is about what I expect to have on my strike team.
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>>485647108
well I don't know about you but I'm not actually in that game so I don't mind if anon griefs to get funny footage
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>>485647379
Fair enough. Fuck shopclick if I'm being honest.
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>>485635640
The point of the matter is live service was a curse upon the industry especially fags whining about nerfing things in a pve game
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>>485622391
Was just a matter of time that they would make a song based off DRG but damn that video needed a higher CGI budget.
>New album is called Trollslayer
Guess there will be a Warhammer song too?
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>>485607835
staff tier list
>voidstrike
>trauma
power gap
>purge
very, very big power gap
>surge
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>>485649929
All 3 of those need heavy investment to deal damage. Surge just works.
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8516422588

Join the strike team
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>>485650170
>heavy investment

?? roll a good staff, use your skill tree correctly, it's not fucking retirement planning

don't even need a good staff for purge
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>>485622391
Fantasy/warhammer/dwarf/viking metal is like the absolute most cringe shit that exists. It's like american ren faire type stuff. Every time I see this shit I have to close it and wonder how the fuck people can listen to this shit. I think genuinely only people like pic related can enjoy it, nobody else can even tolerate shit like this
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>>485650170
Nah, even without minmaxxing staves are still really strong without their skills, to imply that it's even remotely close to something like the power swords being locked behind their blessing 4 traits is just disingenuous.
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>>485646987
>Missed the lobby
Fuck
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>>485650671
Let me guess, Manowar is the peak of manly man metal?
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>>485650671
ren faires are fun
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>>485650824
I don't even know what manowar is but I'd imagine it's some other cringe fantasy metal thing but it's the one you don't like
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>>485650671
>grrrr i hate everything grrrrrrrr
why are you autismos like this?
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>>485646987
My personal weird build against Bots is Plasma Punisher + HMG + Spear backpack when I see other player picking Spear. You complement the spear user weaknesses perfectly, taking down the devs and walkers instantly. Any and all armor disappears undrr team reloads and resupplying two backpacks to full through poi/resupply ammo pickups means there's enough missiles to shoot at everything. Its a very different and fun way to play.
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>>485650671
>spic upset his viral marketing plan failed so is lashing out at burgers
jajaja, 1 peso for juan
arriba arribaaa!
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>>485650671
>NOOOO ALL MUSIC NEEDS TO BE ABOUT SERIOUS TOPICS SUCH AS.... RELATIONSHIPS! Like "I had sex with a girl and she didnt like me and cheated on me:("
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Where did we come from? Over the mountains!
Where are we going? Over the mountains!
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>>485652552
>>485655253
This. Humanity, Fuck Yeah! We come together, make COOL SHIT and NOBODY can stop us!
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>>485635640
Funny how EDF and DRG are the only good games on that list.
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>>485650671
That kinda stuff is just comedic to me. It reminds me of how people will put flaming skull stickers on their cars and genuinely think it's cool as hell
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>>485623552
Oh, I thought you were just talking shit about the taunt ability in general. I usually run that one because it's nice to bait patrols of gunners/shotgunners on high intensity shock troop aurics into melee combat then crunch them all.
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>>485656730
Yes.
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>>485615784
No chance. Why would anyone bother with that.
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>>485673396
>female
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>>485673396
>ogryn isn't rat ogre
Lame af no cap
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>>485669652
close anon is close
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>>485673396
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Which Lucius is the best?
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Where can I get the thing to undress my characters?
le redditors called it a "black market mod", is it actually that hard to come by?
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>>485679117
it's controlled by a cabal of fags each with 5000+ hours
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>>485679117
for the drop can undress you but only you can see it
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>>485679117
>>485679290
I literally posted it here the other day faggots
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>>485679547
tried it, didn't work
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>>485678836
A perfect mkII. Otherwise the best mkI you can roll.
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>>485679547
wasnt here the other day, help a fella out plz
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god the recons are so fucking fun, I'm glad they're back
>heretics' faces when I go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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Darktide is saved.
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>>485680263
Yeah cant wait for the hotfix patch in 8 months!
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>>485680002
https://files.catbox.moe/9bma1d.zip

https://files.catbox.moe/pr6dd7.zip
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>>485680263
>giving some random faggot in the community this much power
Dunno if they're gonna do shit anyway but they should listen to the breadth of the feedback and not just the collection. Whatever atleast it has the important stuff covered
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>>485680841
>power
kek
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>>485680075
my lasgun goes REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ptchoo
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>>485676131
I really want to try for getting Skittergate cleared on Legend.
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>>485682089
that one guy has more power to influence development than you do
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>>485680263
It only took them 2 years to notice and learn. Holy fuck do I hate people using y'all. I get that I'm a transplant in Texas, but it just sounds wrong imaging a Swede attempting to actually say y'all having heard them say quesadilla.

>>485683815
For the nothing it's worth, it's more a a document that the playerbase was as a whole added to

What do you think caused this glacial learning pace for Fatshark to start addressing the playerbase's concerns?
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any diver lobbies?
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We're gonna start with boogs, then go to boots.
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>>485685940
getting an error
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>>485686212
Well fuck I've got the lobby set to public, but I also just came off of a mission where I wasn't host. Selected a new mission and paused the deployment, try again? If it doesn't work I'll just restart my game.
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This weekly expedition on cata is fucking bonkers
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>>485684118
They probably think it's pronounced Yiwal or some retarded Swedish noise.
Disgusting
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Rats rats rats rats rats rats rats rats rtas rats rats LakkRats ratsr taska;sjlRats rats rats ka;saja
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>>485686970
I mean, probably. A close friend is Swedish and his mom saying quesadilla is adorable and super embarrising as the last bit sounds like armadillo. Y'all is an abbreviation of you all as a gender neutral 3rd person plural. But it originating from the US South and that area's stance on those things makes it all ironic
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>>485686212
Restarted game, lobby link is the same as the one in /hdg/ if you were still looking to play.
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>>485686970
>>485687852
we don't think about it. but a friend of mine is from texas and for the longest time i thought she was pretending to be black because that's the only other time i've heard it
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The gunnerfag spam and horrenouds *teleports behind u* spawning shit has made DT into the fucking most nauseating dogshit I've had the displeasure of playing. You know, maybe it wouldn't be so bad if the game didn't go LOL HERE'S 15 GUNNERS RIGHT BEHIND YOU IN THE AREA YOU JUST CHECKED AND THEY EAT THROUGH 200 TOUGHNESS IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE XD!
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>>485690352
Issue
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>>485690352
umm shoot them
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>>485690352
Thank your plasma veteran for his service.
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>>485690352
>gunners
>problem
pick 1
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>>485684118
The thing that drives me crazy is that we don't type "y'all" in written correspondence. We just say it.
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The Crucis thunder hammer is the single target big chungus damage hammer right? seems to do some very mid damage but idk if my build is wrong or something
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>>485692995
Yes, that's the one. The reason it feels like shit and hits like a wet noodle is because the swedes hate fun and made it so that you need to jump through a billion hoops with a specific build to hit specific targets for a fuck ton out of stealth. TTK is pretty lame against everything that you want to smash if you just take a random crucis out of the box. God help you if some trash mob does the whole presidential secret service thing.
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>>485693552
i'll just give up on it then, thanks
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>>485692995
Against monsters. +unyielding perk, +unyielding talent. Thrust IV. Stealth skill. For the biggest single hit.
Ironhelm is friendlier for using the rest of the mission though, and is still decent against monsters.
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>>485693835
I feel like the crucis should hit crushers significantly harder without needing to do all that.
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>>485692995
It only does big damage to Unyielding enemies, so Reapers+Bulwarks+and bosses are all it's good against. Its damage to Carapace is a complete joke, you can't even reliably 1-shot Crushers with a godroll max thrust activated headshot heavy swing.
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I wish my shopclick characters could get a ratclick 2H hammer. The humble 2H hammer is a much better weapon than the thunder hammers.
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Somehow the combat knife and revolver is better at Crushers than a Thunder Hammer. At least the chain axe can be built to one-shot them with a revved heavy.
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>>485695182
Now you have something other than your hand to wipe with, neat!
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>>485695182
anytime, scum
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>>485695182
why does his eyepatch have a radiator?
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>>485694853
I still think it's fucking weird that the deimos force sword is SIGNIFICANTLY better off just poking the carapace armor than using the empowered soul-sucking stab. By a lot. Even before you take into account the risk of being shanked while you're locked into the animation.
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>>485695784
light poke > heavy poke on deimos kills like 90% of enemies and chunks bosses
The empowered attack has always sucked and will continue to suck forever
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>>485680662
it's not working
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>>485694853
imperium is supposed to suck
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Defense stat isn't important on Branx pickaxe right? I have one with only 39% defense but 78-80% on all other stats plus thrust and slaughterer IV. Is that basically ideal?
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>>485699485
inspect, hover over defense and look at what it affects
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>>485699580
I actually tried but for some reason I can't on that one specifically. Sone sort of bug after the last update.
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The frag bomb penance is literally impossible to progress on with good teammates. I'm running the improved explosion radius talent and try to hold back on thinning hordes until they're clumped enough and it makes no difference because of how good my teammates have been in the past few days of auric damnation. Fucking hell I hate ogryn penances so much.
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>>485699485
Ideally at least 51% for the full effective dodge count.
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>>485700226
Oh well, I'll take perfect everything else (forgot to mention it also has 25% bonus carapace/flak damage)for reduced mobility. Ogryns aren't supposed to be agile anyways.
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>>485700109
play on auric heresy
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Good click
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>>485701248
This may unironically be the best way to farm outside of grouping with troons
All 3 retards die to horde, then you "clutch" revive them with frag bomb 25 times (in one mission)
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>>485695182
why is that blessing so good? i see a lot of ppl trying to get it
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>>485703302
It's a pain to get once you're level 30. higher level crafting tilts towards tier III and IV blessings and it is a rare tier II blessing.

Combat wise, combined with the Scattershot blessing for higher crit chance, it provides a huge boost to cleave, which for ranged attacks means full damage to everything it passes through. Makes for easy gibbing of hordes and scab/dreg trash for the Double Barrel and Lawbringer. Also extra mauler/rager kills with the double barrel when it goes off.
Agripinaa shotgun can do some cute railgun tricks but it's not optimal.
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>>485701248
I don't want to bore myself just to complete a penance. I just want to complain that they are badly designed.
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>edf6 has vtranny slop in it
Yeah fuck those andrew tate ethot grifting chinks. Fatshart I apologize.
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>>485528362
>vt2 let some guy scream nigger in the chat
>darktide censored me saying I gotta take a piss
Fuckin sweedes
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>>485708235
>Play japanese game
>Oh wow
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>>485458892
>>485458982
It's never enough. Even at 60% resistance to them they are fucking obnoxious.
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>>485709006
I havent ever played a japanese game with this shit in it, but I also don't play gacha games
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>>485661602
Super aggressive shield + taunt players can be lovely to see, but toonkers got their rep for doing everything they possibly can to become afk.
You'd be lucky to see TOONKERS even swing their weapon, let alone push block. It was even worse when the shield first released because the taunt skill didn't exist so nothing would even target them, they'd just hang back and you'd actually just be down a player who doesn't even soak any of the aggro.
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>>485709006
The main demographic of vtroon simps are seaniggers, most vtranny fans in Japan are migrant workers from dirty inferior races like india, china, philipenes, eyc
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>philipenes
based esl
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>>485704258
I see, thank you anon. I can see some builds with weapons specialist and the zealot crit rune
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>>485690352
I've been using chorus lately and I get to see the heresy up close. Some rooms are fucking unbreachable deathtraps. Gunners run this game and every other unit is a gunner support.
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>>485710242
When I see a vet with double barrel I immediately assume I have one less teammate.
Its just not good enough considering the powerhouse weapons vet has access to.
Zealot can make good use of it with the randomly numerous ranged weapon buffs available especially the -spread on dodge one and the 25% more close damage
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>>485714178
2/4
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>hab dreko
>dropdown before the big H-shaped area with the medicae station
>boss spawns
>dog wave spawns
>instead of fighting backwards through the space we already cleared, whole team runs past the boss down the dropdown and wipes

what causes this behavior?
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>>485714178
full
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redpill me on the headhunter guns
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>>485717406
They're bad, hope that blew your mind
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>>485717406
MK VII is the gun of the gods with headhunter and deadly accurate.
A couple crit headshots can eliminate crushers (there are 12 of them in the room with you right now) and otherwise 1-tap any elite at any range.
Only downside is no pierce so you can't blast 6 shotgunners with 1 bullet like revolver, but you have enough ammo you can blast regular shooters too
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>>485717406
Mk III is universally the worst
Mk VII is the best if you can aim
Mk IX is otherwise better if you're an aimlet
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>>485637593
They weren't KKK outfits, they were capirotes, and the aesthetic isn't gone - trench crusade is made by woke sjws and it has a whole faction who wear capirotes
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>>485719402
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>>485725318
>>485719402
oh cool, i had no idea there was a dmr in this game
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>bluescreen twice in darktide in 4 days
>google it
>apparently the game just does this sometimes
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>>485651193
>I don't even know what manowar is but I'd imagine it's some other cringe fantasy metal thing but it's the one you don't like
kek you hit the nail on the head that's exactly what manowar is
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campus wompus
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>>485717406
They have way too much sway/recoil
I would shamelessly mod a reflex sight on them.
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I've been doing a lot of thinking lately.
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>>485730537
Where do you work out?
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>level 250 stealth knife zealot gets ledged twice at the start of chasm terminus by an early chaos spawn and quits out of shame

we won, in case you're here

stay out of my regular damnations
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>>485730534
Bro, your -60% sway trait?
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Why do sloptide players say "stay out of my ____" like it's an insult?
Staying out of sloptide is just good advice
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>>485731549
Most probably a meme making fun of a retard that said it without an ounce of irony
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>>485625719
sure the problem is this place and not Fatshark sure sure sure
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>>485625719
Based.
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>>485625921
>I'm excited for the crafting rework.
The fact that they still show modification caps in their preview screenshots curbs my excitement significantly.
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>>485683383
So go play it, what's the issue?
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>i should be able to immediately craft all the perfect 380s with all the specific tier 4 perks and blessings i want or else crafting is bad!
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>>485633172
>he posted again when he got blasted into oblivion last time
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>>485633467
gives bonus ranged dmg too and it's cool
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>>485730865
At the library.
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>>485734259
I've literally never posted that before ever thoughbeit
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>>485733414
the fact the new system needs two paragraphes to be explained while a simple lock removal would have eased the burden by at least 75% is extremely shady. They probably are looking for a way to remove your blessing progress in a non-obvious manner
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>>485734881
Seriously. Why can't they just copy Athanor without extra bullshit attached to it? That system was pretty much perfect.
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what is it about the knife that attract niggers
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>>485735773
The speed
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>>485736068
I hope they give us dual knives soon and make us even go faster with it. Two knives, double the speed.
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>>485532541
not really. default ogryns already have better raw physical stats than a space marine, and you could argue that the psyker gets close to primaris psyker levels when maxed out.
max level vet and zealot can be easily justified as interogator-tier characters
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>>485735078
guess they are hellbent, or tencent hehe, on keeping an "engagement heavy" system that forces you to check the shop on a regular basis while also pretending they listened to the remaining fanbase
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>no matter how many funbux you spend on cosmetics, you will never look even half as good as the basic scab enemy, let alone a scab gunner
t-thanks fatshark
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>>485737423
>engagement
This is so tiresome. Even if they just copy Athanor 1:1 there'd still a ton of grind to max out every weapon on every character. It's just the grind would be finite.
And naturally they'd simply need to release new classes and weapon and too the grind going. But of course that would require too much work for lazy swedes, so of course they can't do that.
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>>485737646
the fact blessings have different tiers is cancerous alone, in vermintide it's opportunist and swift slaying no matter the color or anything else
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>40 minutes ago
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>>485734017
Correct
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We need more fun blessings like stun the attacker on block, quell peril on weakspot etc
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>>485744202
Yeah, right. Here's your new blessing:
>After crouching three times while being near an elite enemy you get +0.5% fire rate and -200% reload speed
>Available only on Kickback and Rumbler
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>>485690352
Just CAMPUS WUMPUS them.
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>>485737169
Ogryns are normally balanced by being clumsy retards that can barely operate ranged weapons specifically designed for them, they need a specific cybernetic modification just to be comparable to a mildly dull human guardsman. And multiple darktide ogryn personalities aren't even bonheads.
People with a very poor understanding of how things work constantly say "but ogryns are just as strong as space marines", as if being a literal retard isn't a gigantic handicap that means they're infinitely less effective than a space marine in almost any combat situation.
Most of this wouldn't be an issue if we started as an actual inquisitorial retinue, but we don't. Almost all of the dialogue in and out of game depicts the darktide characters as expendable rejects, completely mundane people in their class, that experience massive casualties and constantly wipe during missions. There is a massive disconnect between gameplay and general lore, even going by in-game descriptions.
Enjoying the gameplay and ignoring the lore disconnect is one thing, but pretending the insanely inflated power levels of our rejects is anywhere close to lore friendly demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the universe.
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IF YOU CAN BREED
YOU CAN KILL
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>>485746048
SHOW ME YOUR KARKING WAR HOLES
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>>485714857
the ledges in that area are pretty shitty. if it's a beast of nurgle i drop down every time, takes that fat fuck like a full two minutes to change doorways and chase you and i would rather fight the slug in the H room. I did actually get ledged by a chaos spawn in the previous room by my own hand, turns out it can see you in stealth if it has someone grabbed. I flanked for a stealth bonk and it just pimp slapped me to my death
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>>485734017
yeh why not, it can be expensive I just fucking hate three layers of dice rolls
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>>485745046
anon said fun not diablo 4
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>>485734017
you can do that in vermintide so yes, its bad.
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>>485386547
"After Summer" means christmas in fatshark speak
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>>485749501
how are they able to justify a monthly salary, what the fuck are they doing all day
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>>485749576
vacationing is itself pretty hard work
such hard work, in fact, that it deserves another vacation to relax after such a taxing vacation
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not a vacation, just the good old plasma gun
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>>485749885
forgot about this legendary sentence "recovering from vacation", so full of meaning.
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Which left 4 dead 1/2 campaigns don’t have collectathons? Not going to have wifi for a few days so going to be playing with bots
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>>485733414
I'm hoping that it'll be like weave crafting where everything fits on a maxed item, but wary of the cap. Also hoping they add lots of blessings that change how you play, like the block stun for the batons.
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I wish I was a billionaire so I could buyout fatshark and just fix all the shit wrong with their approach to items and cosmetics
I love the gameplay but I just hate seeing the game suffer from it
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>>485759406
>I love the gameplay
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>>485759406
>giving them more money
that's how they keep staying afloat you cretin
idiot investors with too much money thinking "hmmm I can fix them"
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>>485760093
If you spend enough money you could install a platform in fagshart HQ to whip employees from whenever they try to take their daily 16hr vacation
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>>485760370
the swedish work laws make them untouchable you fool
don't make the same mistake as so many before you
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>>485760678
with enough money you could buy sweden
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>>485735078
thats literally how the athanor worked. The only difference is the stat rng and they let you customize em a bit now at the expense of budget
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>>485760889
You're looking at it from the wrong angle, you don't buy sweden, you replace them with thirdworlder shitskins who will work for pennies. Oh wait
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>>485692995
Crucis is a meme. Even ignoring the special being unable to pierce trash, the Ironhelm's push into heavy strikedown outdamages it for single target. The horde clear is just okay, and yes, maulers and crushers require two activated heavies to be killed. You need to jump through hoops to get that one shot, sacrificing other stuff in the way. Do NOT go martyrdom, you want one +3 stamina curio on thammer.
>>485693835
Ironhelm can still easily oneshot a plagryn with perfectionist stealth, you just need momentum and a combo of disdain/headtaker/sustained assault. Which you can easily get by spamming lights into anything.
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>>485762692
>do not go martyrdom
hammers are fucken GREAT with martyrdom
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>>485763398
Fuck no. You get no buffer for mistakes, your horde clear does not benefit from damage bonuses unlike power, you need all three wound curios for it to be worth a damn which fucks you over with max stamina and HP, health stimms only heal you for 25% instead of 50% max. The 48% damage bonus is nothing when zealot's tree is full of them, and momentum gives you only 9% less attack speed than martyrdom for what you already naturally do all game. You could argue for the toughness DR, but then momentum gives you back free 30% toughness every 6 seconds for the same talent point.
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>>485764224
shitter post I dont even feel like replying. Martyrdom is not a glass cannon option lol
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>>485761417
>thirdworlder shitskins who will work
HAH! Good one.
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>>485765105
>>485764224
they're both valid builds you bozos
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>>485765268
Hey even they work more than snow niggers do.
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>>485765490
touché
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>>485765105
Humor me. Exactly how are you running martyrdom that it's NOT a glass cannon? For fuck's sake it does nothing for you unless you willingly take damage. And again, the damage bonuses are very easily replaced by other stuff that doesn't require you to gimp yourself with otherwise worthless wound curios and low health.
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>>485765475
I never said it wasnt, I am not the retard acting like martyrdom is bad though
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can someone humor this guy pls >>485766225
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>>485766225
Nah youre right martyrdom is bad bro. Nobody ever use it
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martyrdom bad
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>>485759406
You wouldn't be able to fix how fatshark works without replacing a lot of the company and then it's not really fatshark anymore
I would be interested in seeing what the thinking is behind the cosmetic shop, since it seems so obviously overpriced for the quality you get and badly thought out in general. I don't spend money on ingame cosmetics anyway, but surely the better option would be to have most of those sets be things you can earn ingame and reserve the "higher effort" skins for the aquila shop rather than rotating reskinned slop every week. The whales will consume the slop either way, but in general people seem more inclined to engage in a system like cosmetics if there's stuff to work with that they don't have to pay for
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>>485764224
>You get no buffer for mistakes
You do if you pick until death and holy revenant. That's a free mistake every 2 minutes. And if you have chorus or shout teammates you can be pretty safe.
Max martyrdom gives +48% damage boost? Not limited to a timer.
Max momentum gives +15% damage boost? Only lasts 6 seconds.
Not sure why you think 48% damage bonus is nothing.
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>>485768336
the toughness DR and attackspeed it gives is alos massive and permanent. Especially now that fire doesn't delete toughness anymore, martyrdom zealot is tanky as FUCK thanks to those two things (yes, attackspeed is a defensive stat)
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>>485768336
>You do if you pick until death and holy revenant. That's a free mistake every 2 minutes.
Which I can also take on other builds, AND not have to do suboptimal shit like taking wound curios and staying at low health to receive any benefit from my keystone.
>Max martyrdom gives +48% damage boost? Not limited to a timer.
>Max momentum gives +15% damage boost? Only lasts 6 seconds.
>Not sure why you think 48% damage bonus is nothing.
Because it IS nothing. Momentum may be on a "timer", but you are always dodging if you're not on sedition, and dodging gives you momentum stacks with Inebriate's Poise. It activates when you deal damage. It has no downtime.
Sustained Assault is 20% just for attacking in melee, which you are always doing. Weapons with Headtaker get 25% power with the same condition as Sustained Assault. When are you NOT melee attacking and still want a permanent melee damage bonus?
I even mentioned you can oneshot the tankiest monstrosity with the ironhelm without martyrdom, just common shit you'd see in any stealth zealot build.
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>>485770623
I hope you realize martyrdom and power from weapons stack exponentially, making your point even dumber
nobody cares about monstrosities btw they're a joke and you can kill them with any weapon
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>>485770979
But monstrosities are the only place where you'd see the benefit from martyrdom. Everything else already dies in one or at most two melee attacks. Ergo you are overkilling, and aren't making use of the damage bonus for breakpoints. The central point of your argument is damage damage damage yet it doesn't apply.
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>>485770623
>why should you take martyrdom if these things that aren't mutually exclusive with martyrdom add up to almost the same damage increase?
Dunno man. Maybe to double your damage bonus? With martyrdom my light attacks oneshot gunners and shotgunners, and without martyrdom they don't. Plus it makes me tanky and swing fast. How is this so hard to understand? What is this reddit shit where you try to defend a completely nonsensical opinion? Atleast think about it for 10 seconds before you say this shit
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>>485771445
>But monstrosities are the only place where you'd see the benefit from martyrdom. Everything else already dies in one or at most two melee attacks.
Nah not true
>w-why don't you elaborate??
why should I elaborate when refuting retarded made up lies you made? You forget that you're probably some 100 hour scrub and almost everyone here has 800+ hours and knows exactly that you're not oneshotting every enemy without martyrdom so your retarded reddit tier argumentation has no weight
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big counterpoint : stealth zealot is lame and gay
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big counterpoint: darktide is lame and gay
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>>485771772
deflection: have you seen what they did to fury zealot?
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I never abused CDR or ranged rending on charge anyway so the changes literally left me entirely cold
you know what actually is a gigantic fucked up nerf? the impact nerf on the talent from 150% to 30%. That shit made zealot feel extremely powerful and now he's back to not being able to stagger a crusher
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>>485772079
FOF still has 25% crit chance minimum
Yes, nerfing CD on crit was RETARDED and ruined every good zealot build, but you can kinda still do it with the backstab trait.
They keep siphoning the fun out of the game, nerfing skills, nerfing weapons, then buffing enemies so the nerfs are extra meaningful
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>>485772328
Well I always picked hammer of faith instead so I'm not affected by that either. Cry more!
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Aside from hammer, are there any other notable weapons that make good use of martyrdom?
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>>485772517
It hurts man. My nr 1 favorite thing in darktide was running eviscerator critmaxed with charge. I can't bring myself to play my evisc crit build anymore because it's so dulled down compared to how it was. Fucking fatsharks keeps putting breaks on things. Holding me back.
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>>485774253
No
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>>485774253
If you're not gonna use a hammer i think momentum is just better. Maybe you can make the chain axe work well.

>>485772328
It's not abuse to use CDR for CDR.
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>Enemy triggers your 1hp lifesteal
>Team decides now is the time to kill everything near you
Is there a worse feeling?
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>>485775312
When Until Death triggers while being grabbed by a mutie/boss/dog.
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>>485774253
what weapon doesnt like free attack speed and damage?
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>>485774253
old chain axe with headtaker and slaughterer reaches the point where it can kill crushers in a couple lights and oneshot gunners and shotgunners with em. Plus you barely feel it lock your camera anymore due to the speed. It's the only way i enjoy that wep, total gamechanger to have it do this much damage and be this fast
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>>485774253
The Indignatus crusher goes from good to godlike
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They really did abandon Darktide huh
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>>485776821
not abandonment, just good old plasma gun
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>>485776821
They're just on vacation. They'll be back soon :)
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>>485767085
>I would be interested in seeing what the thinking is behind the cosmetic shop
Its common practice in the industry to force highly delayed games (darktide was highly delayed) to release unfinished and recoup costs with extra aggressive monetization.
See: Hyenas was going to fo this but was just shitcanned entirely instead

Obviousl nobody knows but my guess is that this is why they have this ultra aggressive cash shop and do 0 compromising on it
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>>485776821
Listen man I hate that youre making me defend fartshart but by what fucking metric is it abandoned? Regardless of wether you think these things will be good (I hate the idea of the upcoming crafting rework) they are literally updating it. And theyre porting it to PS5. It clearly isnt abandoned yet
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Fatshark has announced they are adding iconic new 40k weapons to Darktide: Pipe, wrench, crowbar, stick
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>>485778256
omg I love stick super based
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>>485778256
Pipe the heretics, twist their nuts, i dunno for crowbar, and stick it in em.
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Is it lobby time?
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>>485778693
Slay the Cat doesn't have lobbies
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>>485775312
>be goonlooger
>press F
>get grabbed by monstrosity
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>>485778256
no fork or spoon? shit gaym
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>play gunlugger with ACKlys
>never bring out my melee
>vacuum up all the ammo pickups
>every horde I hear praise voicelines from a vet and zealot, while in chat they are seething over me taking all the ammo
I get it now.
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>>485779361
>do fuckall all game
>the moment a horde appears, press F
>rrRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>the achlys shot so many rounds, its barrels are warped, the magazine belt-feeder has gone AWOL, there's enough smoke to signal others with that alone
>the moment the ability runs out, switch back to my mk 1 club and bash runts in

AND THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP AN OGRYN AROUND
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>>485779361
Good man. Don't let your finger off that trigger. Keep those barrels warm.
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HELLDIVERS 2
BOTS
DIFF 9
AESIR PASS
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243602580543/76561198108378016

2/4
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>>485779361
LOOK AT THAT OGRYN GO
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>3 stamina curios
>all with stamina regen
>Block cost reduction
>Taunt skill
>Push taunt talent
>Shield
It's POOOOSHING TIME
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>>485778256
>stick
too OP, stick was banned from the tabletop after sweeping every single opposing army
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>>485780093

STILL 2/4

WE CAN PICK MATAR BAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE AESIR PASS

IT'S FREDAG, DIVERS, WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU? BEING REJECT-ED?
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>>485782758
>tänker på spelet istället för att spela
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>>485782758
im watching anime, fag
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>>485782758
great lobby you got there
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>>485782758
Don't give a fuck about your dead game
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We need new enemies before any new weapons
Specifically, we need a duellist type of enemy, one that would be more engaging than dodging when you see the big overhead coming.
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>>485783569
Join now
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>>485778256
I have no clue why this made me laugh the way it did.
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>>485782758
And we are full.
4/4
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>>485783824
>duellist type of enemy
You mean enemies that you shoot in the head inatead of emgaging in melee?
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>>485783824
Unless it has carapace armor everyone would just pull out their gun and shoot it. And if it does, you're proposing a standard enemy that's armored like a crusher but faster and more punishing?
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>>485783824
mixed packs becoming more difficult to fight would encourage more aoe spam and less engagement

you know what doesn't have to play red light green light yellow light blue light black light against a duellist-crusher-rager-mauler-trapper-bomber-burster pack? trauma staff, chorus, plasma gun, etc
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>>485783824
Daily reminder about that generic captain enemy that FS tweeted about in January then completely forgot about
Maybe there should be an sargeant/squad leader enemy that buffs enemy shooting skills back to the pre nerfed values
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>>485786623
>>485786623
>>485786623
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>>485784916
>>485784951
Hear me out
A monstrosity that would rush toward you and have a consequent health pool albeit the lowest of all bosses. It would then slowly attack you with patterns countered by pushes/heavies or targeted weakspot lights.
Its attacks would stagger the horde around him giving you ample focus.
The second you slide backwards he would pull a ripper autopistol and empty on you, punishing you for trying to disengage.
He'd 100% lock on to 1 player until death, unlike the hot potato bosses that go back and forth til they die.



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