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Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General. Here we discuss ALL things Sonic!

/sthg/ #7141 - Shadow is a demon born in the heavens while Silver is an angel born in hell Edition

>SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS - Summer Game Fest Trailer
>SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS confirmed release date is October 25, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E36fOpk-Yg

>Sonic X Shadow Generations will be getting an animation
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1790411753286688804

>Sonic Rumble - Announce Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em6-SjjaYQE

>Sonic the Hedgehog 3 has been announced for December 20, 2024:
https://twitter.com/SonicMovie/status/1729878742775001179

>IDW Release Dates:
Sonic the Hedgehog 71 - 31 July 2024
Sonic the Hedgehog 72 - 21 August 2024
Sonic the Hedgehog Annual 2024 - 11 September
Sonic the Hedgehog 73 - 18 September

>General link compilation:
https://pastebin.com/v28z0i4P
https://web.archive.org/web/20201011115814/https://pastebin.com/ryx42C0W
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0
>Perfect System Collection:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnOjrAPad6L7Bvi_wKMcVJqD_ql8MLjH/view
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
/sthg/ OC info:
sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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>westshit
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>>485532670
black angel
white devil
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Don't let them forget. The West LOST
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shipp
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>>485532964
i like the idea of sonic being the only hedgehog amy hasn't fucked yet
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Is sonic canon actually canon?
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Who would win in a fight? Eggman or the West?
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>>485532897
The west the always lose
The west will always fail
The west will NEVER win
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Crazy how they managed to make a character so dogshit. Time traveler characters that keep coming back and stay around are so trash. Worst still how he forever drags Blaze down to his level. Fuck Silver.
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>>485533079
Only when it isn't western
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>>485533317
Okay Silverschizo.
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>>485533254
BASED
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>>485532670
https://sonic-city.net/2024/07/04/famitsu-translation-interview-with-takashi-iizuka-and-shun-nakamura-about-sonic-x-shadow-generations-the-brand-theme-is-to-fully-convey-shadows-appeal-depicting-the-dark-hero-awakening-to-ne
>Iizuka: Shadow is the only character in the Sonic series with a tragic background. This forms the basis of his personality, so I emphasize conveying Shadow’s allure by including his background in the portrayal.

They're going to retcon Silver being from a devastated future to avoid Shueisha.
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>>485533317
Silver's based because he can travel back in time and change events at will to create a better future but not once has he ever offered to save Maria or float that idea to Shadow. What an asshole
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>>485533502
Silver can't control his time travel, he uses mysterious portals that send him back without direction.
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Is it Silver hating hours already?
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>>485533707
Not with those shitty teeth.
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>>485533495
>Whisper has a tragic background
>Iizuka says Shadow is the only one with a tragic background
>Therefore, Whisper is not canon
>Even if she is somehow, then that means her IDW background is not canon anyway
>Same goes for Tangle, Surge, and everyone else
IDWfaggots lost
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>>485533586
Fang isn’t Australian.
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The west must fall.
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Fang can get it.
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The west must prevail
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>>485533849
He is a Texan?
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>>485534267
Uncle Sam the Hedgehog?
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READY THE BLACK ARMS
THE ATTACK ON WESTOPOLIS BEGINS NOW
THE BLACK COMET NEARS THIS PLANET
SOON WESTERNERS WILL PERISH
NO ONE CAN STOP US
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>>485534031
The west hasn't fallen, billions must live
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>>485534241
belly....
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>>485533734
>werehog Silver x Red Riding Hood AMy
hnnnnnggg...!
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>Low quality recycled discussions.
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Human females were made for hedgehog cock.
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The point of Silver being from the future is so he can have his own settings that he is the Sonic of like Blaze is with her dimension but we never see it to the point where most fans don't even know that he actually lives in the future and isn't just constantly coming back to Sonic's time to fix things.
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>>485533034
Funny because amy is the only character sonic hasn't fucked yet either
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Sonurge is canon
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>>485533691
Ian and Evan must have been confused as hell at the time when that was what Sega told them
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Sonic and Link are exactly alike in terms of writing
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>>485534241
>bisexual
Why does a cartoon character need to be bisexual in the first place? I don't get it.
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>>485532751
Faggot whos ship is not canon
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>>485533495
Technically Silver's devasted future was retconned at the end of 06, though they'll probably bring it back if they ever reintroduce the character in earnest.
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>>485534574
Where?
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>>485534574
No it isn't. Stop using canon as a synonym for good.
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Hedgehog females were made for human cock.
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>>485534393
She's a big girl
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Cat females were made for human cock

Males too tho
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Silver needs a retcon full stop
Now that the matter is settled, when the frick are we getting an Eggman game? Bowser had his
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>485534640
shut. up. attention whoring avatar fag
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>>485534596
Why does a cartoon character need to be gay? Why do they need to be straight? Why does everything have to devolve to what makes a character's loins burn?
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>>485534635
Silver is still supposed to have that backstory after 06 as his key motivating factor for protecting the future. That's why he doesn't know basic things and talks about survivalist bullshit in the cook book but now they might retcon that to make him not like Trunks.
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>>485534980
Lets chill fren.
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>>485533691
>>485534582
I feel like it's a situation where Sega writes stories then tries to justify them later. They make a character than can time travel, then say
>we don't want this character to have time travel powers, so therefore he does time travel by doing ____
even if it makes no fucking sense in the context of the story they already wrote.

It all comes down to the fact that the Japanese, at least the ones working at Sonic Team, just fundamentally don't understand the concept of overarching stories and universes.
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Please Sega... Please introduce a cute panda girl already.... I promise it'll save the franchise.........
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>>485534839
Unbarbed human cock cannot possibly satisfy Honey. She wants it to hurt.
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Do you think blobian butts squeak when you grab them?
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>>485535059
You know how someone made pic rel? I want one with 2 cats mating but its big mating with honey while she screams bloody murder
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>>485535075
No, but that's ok because most blobians squeak from surprise when you squeeze them
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>>485534747
Jest is really great.
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>>485534986
Yeah, it's really weird.
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Amazing how the threads were good back when
Russian Blazefag was here
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>hey Silver, you ought to bring some of your friends from the future next time!
>Maybe one of these days haha...
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>>485534924
What type of game would it be?
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This thread peaked this year during Mephiles vs Sonicman poll.
You're shit now, do better
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>>485535285
What's wrong with this thread?
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>>485535285
>blaze is good
Ppfftttt hahahahahah
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I love her to, she's adorable and it'd fit that Fang's lover would be a little cookey
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>>485535310
>Silver trying to hide the fact that every time he changes the past to fix the future everyone he knew gets deleted and replaced as if they never even existed.
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>>485534747
>>485535586
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>>485535215
If a drawfriend really loved me they'd draw that meme of the skinny cat hugging the big fluffy cat, only fluffy cat is Big and the skinny cat is Blaze
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>>485533254
>>485533254
The West has fallen
Millions must Headcanon
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>>485534747
I don't think she fits Sonic as a franchise but I'd definitely play a Furry Animal game series that has designs like her in it.
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there are innocent people rotting in jail for decads on end and your greatest crisis is an autistic spammer on 4chan
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>>485535698
>last panel
Pizza dough.
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>>485535808
Whisper is she dead now
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>>485535864
I agree, the autistic spammer should be rotting in jail instead.
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Silverbros...
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>>485535698
>Fang does this to her
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>>485535864
>autistic spammer on 4chan
Context?
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>>485533317
Post canon Shipping
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>>485535967
silver is proud to be a cuck!
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Imagine waking up from a 20 year coma and you find out your favorite series was infested with Westernshit.
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Would Fang really be an architect
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This west / westernshit is getting old.
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>>485535864
Dont care dint asked
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>>485536151
I'd never want to wake up.
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>>485536002
I really don't get the appeal of this obnoxious OC.
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>>485536249
He won't suht the fuck up because he knows there are those who will catch the bait.
just add him to your filters and move on.
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>>485536063
canon since 2005
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>>485536341
Fang is the Joker
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>>485536164
No. I think Knuckles is the only male likely to be an architect in the main Sonic cast. Maybe Tails. But there are way more females that would be (Trip, Amy, Maria, Blaze)
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>>485536249
Then maybe the West should leave?
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>>485536164
More cushy of the pushy
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>>485536441
Iizuka might come out and say "Sonniku to Emi arr not datingu becooz zey arr siburrings"
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>>485535051
I don't know if the line is in the Japanese version but in Frontiers Sonic implies that Silver can go back and stop the Ancients from going extinct.
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>>485535059
Honeyfags is this true?
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>>485536541
Sonic here is a healthy blobian boy with cock and balls (hidden).
Stop projecting
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Maybe if you talked about Shipping...
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Chasing down mobian girls in the dark to make sure they get home safely.
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turn neera li into an /sthg/ oc
no one likes freedom planet anyway
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>>485536864
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>>485536541
LMAO sonics pepperoni nipples!!!

I wish I had more unironic sexo pics of sonic with cute little nipples.
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Rabbits
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Does anyone else feel like having a world inhabited entirely by Jokerians feels... juvenile? It makes it feel like self-insert isekai fuel for toddlers. Having a mix of humans-Jokerians or even just using Jokerians as an indication of major characters (sans exceptions like Eggman or upgraded civilians like Elise) feels a lot more natural. I also prefer when implications of them being distinctly different is kept to a minimum, like how NPCs call Amy 'that girl with pink hair' in SA1.
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>>485536151
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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I feel we’re losing something very unique about Sonic as a franchise and character in general as he begins to mainly focus on the west. We haven’t seen things such as another anime since Sonic X. It’s been nothing but western cartoon series with no substance to them and more recently Sonic Prime and even a bit of Frontiers has added to that. Though I am grateful for Frontiers for bringing back some of the more unique and serious stories to the game, though I am not a fan of how Ian Flynn writes Sonic (no that doesn’t mean I hate Ian). The games since 2010 have utterly destroyed Sonic’s stories and character to the point many people don’t even understand how everything should operate, so much so that when fans like myself point these things out we get dogpiled on for being negative. I’ve recently found myself agreeing with the mandates set on the series, specifically how Sonic should be written, I have my reason but I don’t wanna get too into it. Just to be clear I don’t agree with their mandates on Shadow though. They’re actually actively fucking his character over for unknown weird reasons.

I guess in the end I’m really just saying I’d like Sonic to primarily be handled by Japan like it use to be. So much of the charm of Sonic comes from the fact that he’s a Japanese IP with American sensibilities through the eyes of the Japanese. It had a weird but interesting feel to it that just works. I’m tired of the west constantly turning the series into your typical American comedy series. And I’m not saying I hate the American team, I’m specifically angry at the American branch of SEGA that make all these decisions that directly contradict what SEGA of Japan has set up which should always be the standard. There’s more to discuss on this topic but I’ll end it here. I’m open to discussion.
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>>485537235
Sonic, Amy and Elise.
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>>485537001
>Chasing Amy down a dark alleyway!
>Amy screaming in fear and swinging her hammer around!
>Getting hit by her hammer and turned to red mist!
>Amy slowly opening her eyes and wondering where you went!
>Amy!
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>>485537235
You I guess? Idk
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sonic nipple
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dfwnn ...save me...

dfwnn

save me dfwnn
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>>485537064
>>485536864
Make her Lanolin's mentor/crush
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>>485537493
why does shadow have nigga hands
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Western Sonic is like a bad Saturday cartoon - it won’t sell well in Japan.

Not like Sonic sells well in general anymore.
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>>485537493
gross and off model
if official art doesn't turn you into a quivering mess then you aren't a real fan
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Huh..so sonic forces is just a star wars rip off? Just when i thought the game couldn't get anymore shallow.
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>>485536249
Just generate smut or stfu
more female Duo Ai Please?
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borgar
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>>485537191
I pretty much agree. Personally I like the idea of major protagonists being blobians, major villains being more human like, and then background characters being a mix of simple humans and blobians.
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>>485537782
why is she always fighting why don't you draw her NAKED
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>>485537235
I don't think we ever had a relevant female dog character, I mean aside the male dog muttski in archie
Maria relationship with shadow or Elise and sonic are the things that comes close to your pic.
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485537310
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/comments/zogh6z/sonic_is_losing_his_japanese_for_lack_of_a_better/

Reddit repost. This post is of extremely low quality.
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>>485537586
shadow looked slightly more tan than sonic once way back in 2004 so twitterfags try to push him being blacker than DMX because they absolutely need person of crime representation in their cartoon hedgehog game
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>>485537640
I... i just like sonics little nippies that come out when hes aroused
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>>485537846
blobians are full fully clothed cuddling and maybe some groping
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>>485537846
Naked
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She's not canon bros...
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>>485537493
>Sonic is a boy
>let's draw him with a Pussy
fucking faggots
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>>485538045
I WANTED TO CUM NOT CRY
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>>485538107
Sonic doesnt have a pussy in that picture
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>>485538045
>this is the first time he's seen a girl naked
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>>485538227
Well, aside from that time at Hella's house when Lanolin...
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>>485537903
Wow, two years ago? This aged extremely well. At this point this series feels.more western than japanese and it's losing its appeal for me more and more with every new piece of american produced media we get.
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>>485536063
Diaper changing ship where Blaze has to take care of her baby retard.
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>>485538368
HOT
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>>485538360
Good. Leave then.
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>>485538286
I want to brush her hair with my fingers.
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>>485538212
No it's the artist
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>girlboss amy isn't canon
this is good
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>>485538368
Sounds hot
Tell me more
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>>485538368
Ugh don't mention diapers or babies it reminds me of that silvaze porn that was posted here
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>>485538542
blaze has fire powers
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What do you even gain from making TMoStH non canon?
>they've already mentioned it in #70
>there are TMoStH skins in Rumble
>TMoStH is popular
>there aren't any lore contradictions
Instead you have to tell that very similar thing already happened??? What?
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>tweet random shit
>get millions of views
The banks should break up Nintendo and sell them to Sega
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>>485536452
Wouldn't Mephiles be The Joker instead? Fang isn't a sadistic sociopath.
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>>485538516
You guys always say that when you know it's easier said than done. You don't just stop when you've been at something for most of your life. I don't know what's keeping me around when I know it's futile. It's like trying to quit cocaine.
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>>485538496
>
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>>485537903
He was Truth Nuking two years ago
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>>485536341
I just love the idea of people spreading their creativity and inventing new characters.
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>>485538045
I hate when that happens
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>>485538496
reminder
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>>485538702
It makes the rest of them american content noncanon by association. Isn't this great?!
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>>485538702
Sonic Team said no for some reason so everybody has to scramble to justify their retardation.
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>>485538739
just get rid of copyright
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>>485538702
The characters and a facsimile of the events are canon. We can say a post Forces TMoSTH happened and not a post Frontiers one.
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>>485538739
That won't make Sonic better and you know it
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Guys, why is the sonic franchise increasingly being aimed towards the audience that actually likes it? Why are they abandoning the market that has never given a shit about it? It doesnt make sense and it's not fair. Thing is bad, but Thing, Japan is good.
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>>485538702
What do you even gain from making TMoStH canon?
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>>485538739
https://www.nintendo.com/jp/switch/emio/index.html
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>>485538313
... Gave him the directions to the wrong bathroom, and he saw Chamois's raggedy old body by accident.
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>>485538978
If you were able to read, you would know
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>>485538978
Characters having fun interactions for a while that aren't just taking turns wanking the main character off like it always is
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>>485539073
Rey had a hard life.
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>>485538978
You give into the weird fans who care more about their headcanons and weird memey scenario ideas than trying to preserve the intent and identity of the characters and world, which should be the goal to strive for for any IP
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>>485537493
>>485537968
Do male hedgehogs IRL have nipples?
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>>485538702
wasnt sage in it? thats probably literally the only reason. they're not allowed to touch (or chronologically move past) Frontiers yet. if they didnt have the sage easter egg then itd probably be a no brainer
they said a similar event has happened offscreen so its probably literally everything except for like that one fucking shot
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>>485538958
>wHy dOeSN't sOnIc SeLl Well In jAPAN?!
hmmmm maybe because they're appealing to westernshit???
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>>485539073
>Chamois's raggedy old body
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>>485538958
You can be aimed at Americans without retarded SoA changes and comics that try to be more Metal Gear Steven Universe than Sonic.
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>>485538702
I just don't want Sonic to almost die. I just find the setting of the game stupid and lame as well. I want dark action stories primarily like SA2, and the Dark Age games, not this fluff. It represents basically all the aspects of Sonic I personally dislike, while Shadow Generations represents everything I like.
It could have the best character writing in the world and if the scenario just seems dumb to me, I won't like it that much. Maybe I could like it as a VN with original characters, but I just don't want that kind of stuff being mixed with Sonic in general.
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>>485539252
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>>485539161
>>485539186
These are the Trannycube-tier sonic fans
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>>485539368
I guess its a good thing no one really cares what you want
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>>485539368
>bu..bu..but muh headcanon!

get fucked weeb lol
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>>485539368
bad opinion
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>>485533691
Technically he can Chaos Control through time as demonstrated in his debut game; just that Sonic Team is confused on his ability to do so since that game's events.
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It feels more like sonic these days is for the bumblekast kind of fans who ask stupid shit like "what if sonic and his friends had a sleepover??" and then sega of america makes content that gives them fuel to draw memes over and characters to infantilize at the expenses of the sincerity and substance the characters used to have.
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>>485539368
I personally don't mind a bit more relaxed and upbeat slice of life stuff, but I agree with you on preferring more serious stories like SA2.
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>>485539368
You are not representative of the fanbase.
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did you really watch sonic prime jump up to #1 on netflix for a month and wonder why they are never going to sonic x type stuff ever again outside of promos written by Ian
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>>485538958
stfu Crash Bandicoot looking ass nigga
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>>485539685
>the sincerity and substance the characters used to have.
yeah back in Archie lol
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Stop shilling your tranny OC here, faggot.
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>>485539616
>headcanon
just like westernshit
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>>485539848
Don't you usually complain about something else?
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>>485539530
Exactly. These are the people sega appeal to now and it's fucking annoying. This is why I root for Jp purists because they actually know what they're talking about.
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>>485539535
>>485539616
>>485539617
>>485539712
>>485539720

Well, I'm just glad Sega is going in the my preferred direction now. I don't want to see anything with any tone near what TMOSTH has. Slice of life has a place, though, I just much prefer edgekino.
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>>485539490
>ren tells hella he had a crush on her mom
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>>485536847
Specifically need one for Ian Flynn for both this and the one she's laughing.
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>>485539939
>>485539252
>and grandmother
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>>485539939
...'s mom.
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>>485539808
Fuck off. You know I mean games like the adventure 1 and 2 or the genesis games with their in-depth manuals that compliment the locations they take place on.
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>>485539907
It's okay bro. I agree with your take. I want Sonic to be "Sonic" again too. Not this Steven Universe bullshit.
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>>485538834
>That pic
>"Dear Sonic, Dr Eggman has kidnapped me, is holding me ransom for all the Chaos Emeralds and forced me to write this letter. Please come quickly, it's so dark and loud in here."
>six stages and boss fights later
>"Oh ho ho ho, why if it isn't Sonic? And what do you have there? The Chaos Emeralds? Hm? What's that? Give him back? Sure, if you had all the emeralds. Yes all SEVEN of them. Oh, but you're one short. That's too bad. Says bye bye to your little freak of a fox!"
>"Sonic, he--"
>"..."
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>>485540064
M-Momlin?
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>>485540069
Too bad Sonic Team has decided they don't want to do that anymore because they prefer shit like Sonic Superstars. The only reason we're getting Shadow at all is because the movie is using him and Ian is writing the animated tie-in.

Superstars is Japanese Sonic. Shadow is Western Sonic.
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This website's so clunky you ever realized that
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>>485539852
>Only content Sonic Team makes is canon
What a dumb take.
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>>485539685
umm listen sweetie us sonic oldfags who were raised on the good OLD games like Sonic Generations and Lost World know what good character writing is. It's when Sonic's friends throw parties and he eats a chilli dog with them while on a green hill. So ummmmm why don't you think again when you fake fans try to pretend you know what Sonic is??!?!?!?!?!?!!? Okay?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!!?!!?!
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Guys just call him a Mexican again and he'll shut up.
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Having light hearted stuff once in a while is good. I never want to see embrassingly dull serious shit like 06 did take over completely. unbelievable how boring that tone was.
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>>485540427
lmfao
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>>485539907
This, Westshit lost
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>>485540242
The Japanese boxart for SxS removed Classic Sonic
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>>485540427
But I am Mexican!
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>>485540371
The horse doesn't lie. It's the truth. Only content made by SONIC TEAM is canon.
That means no comics.
No cartoons.
No movies.
And no stupid visual novel.
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Not since IDW have so many waifus come from one source.
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It's funny seeing people call fans who turned on shadow generations once they found out ian flynn was writing for it hypocrites when it really goes to show just how important the context is. The context behind shadow being written differs when it comes to Ian versus it being a japanese writer because with Ian, you know he's doing it because he wants to do archie shadow, unlike a japanese writer who would write him being softer because they write with more understanding and intent behind his history. The sudden 180 is justified imo
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There is nothing more infuriating than seeing people try and drag heroes. 06, satbk, and unleashed into the batch of "good games" like the adventure titles.
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>>485540572
Because Iizuka's pet game Superstars sold so badly there that it turned Classic Sonic into sales poison. Doesn't change the fact that Superstars's tone is what Sonic Team wants for Sonic.
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>>485540398
I'm glad you agree that the west isn't good for this franchise
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>>485540448
I won't have you dissing on 06's tone. 06's tone was perfect for the series, sure the story and the game was bad but not everything about it was bad. The graphics and music were great, and what they were going for was great as well. In fact, if 06 succeeded, that would've been my favorite style of Sonic game ever.
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>>485540715
>Thing bad thing, Japan GOOD

Commit seppuku
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>>485540448
>i never want to see embrassingly dull serious shit like 06 did
Frontier was exactly that.
06 was this fucking crazy insane stupid shit happening all at once, they didn't even try to make sense of it
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>>485540715
as it turns out, no one wants a "writer" with a bad track record writing characters working on the series.
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>>485540243
I love this teeth gremlin.
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the shitposter is really hell bent on getting people to hate tmosth huh?
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>>485539939
>Hella shows up in Lanolin's old restoration uniform to school (she forgot to do her laundry).
>He instantly notices her while passing by.
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>>485540889
I knew someone would reduce what I said to this instead of understanding that the intention behind writing can recontextualize whether it's actually good or not
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>>485540427
Ayy yo this faggot gringo be rayycist n shieet mang
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>>485540738
You know that isn't true
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>>485540930
This is the type of take I want to see more. Ian wrote plenty of interesting stuff imo, but he failed at capturing an accurate portrayal of the characters. Even if he's a fan, that doesn't make him perfectly understand the characters or the series.
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Avatarfagging is a bannable offense, you know.
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>>485540904
They're both dull games
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>>485541102
Who are you?
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do we really need to hate a guy who hates a bad game?
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>>485541018
>NO THATS NOT FAIR YOU HAVE TO PRETEND I HAVE AN ARGUMENT
lol
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>>485540930
Unfortunately most of this fandom chooses to ignore said bad writing in favor of "Well it's better than--!!!"
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>>485540427
qué?
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>>485541259
No, but I find liking bad comics and pretending they're more canon than games even worse, not saying any names.
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I want more 06 tone games and most of the games to be in that style. I just want a good story and gameplay to come along with that as well. Dark Age was perfect tonewise, and that's what I want to see the franchise go towards. That's where Sonic belongs. That's what I think of when I think Sonic.
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>>485538702
Boy I love having a LORE TEAM
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>>485541409
>more canon
wtf does that even mean? they are alt-canon nigga.
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>>485541338
Argue against my actual point instead of sucking off the strawman fallacy then, retard. Until then, keep schizoing out. Back to playing pokemon
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>>485541102
I like how it admits it’s breaking a rule by responding.pkph
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>arrrrrrr I hate Ian so much he does such a bad job at writing my headcanon so we could get rid of him
>Ummm wow wtf what do you mean we should get rid of iizuka he's trying his best
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What does this convey to you?
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>>485541409
I like the games more than archie, I just happen to be a coomer.
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>>485541529
Like I said, not saying any names, but calling games a side show is bit audacious, don't you think?
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>>485541628
AI shit.
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>I wish Sonic had serious stories again
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>>485537235
Maria, Gerald, and Shadow.

>Gerald: sweetie where did all the peanut butter go
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>>485541704
>this is all he thinks about day in and day out
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>>485541569
I will not debate you nor will I humor you because your opinions are retarded on their face. Now stop wasting posts on your inane weaboo ramblings.
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>>485541628
Somewhere between Sonic consoling Amy, and Sonic beating her like a dog. It's kinda hard to tell.
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>>485541628
Why is Amy's tears Sonic's sustenance?
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Based and canon.
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bitch the games aren't even canon to themselves anymore
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>>485541648
Oh, ok. Small wonder.
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There was only one good Archie comic, and it was MECHA MADNESS
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>>485541861
Was amy always that tall?
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>>485541628
Are those fucking Linkin Park lyrics at the bottom?
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>>485541861
Based for you but not for me.
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Do you actually like Ian's writing in IDW and Frontiers?
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>New Era of Shadow
>It's just rehashing his old stuff
I know Shadow Generations was just a lucky occasion of the stars aligning for it (Movie focusing on him + Generations already being a rehash of old stuff + Shadow actually being able to carry a solo outing) but when are they actually going to do something new with him?
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>>485541730
>ian wrote everything on frontiers it's the best thing ever
>the story is bad
>uh actually h-he only wrote the dialogue
>the script is different from the japanese
>THE MANDATES OKAY??!
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>>485541628
I've been seeing this reposted everywhere and it just looks like ai art. Is it, or nah?
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>>485541932
It’s a horribly drawn cartoon and you could headcanon that Amy is wearing high heel shoes
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>>485541932
She's wearing really high heels
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>>485541628
Cute and canon.
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>>485541861
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As the director of the game after Shadow Generations, I think you're all stupid.
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>>485541962
Fair enough.
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>485542086
>horribly drawn
Shut the fuck up nigger. I know you're black just you think that don't even HIDE it from me
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>>485538702
>>485541507
>Sonic Prime
>isn't compatible with canon
>is canon
>TMoStH
>is compatible with canon
>isn't canon
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>this is canon
>no THIS is canon
>thats not canon

the real problem here is that the sonic franchise as a whole has no real foundation to build from and so you have this mess where each person thinks one way and no one agrees to anything. we need to have a true reset of everything and start over. the mario series has a solid foundation. everyone knows what is what. the problem with nintendo is that they are too afraid to do anything too out there.

sonic is the complete opposite where they are constantly trying something different to see what sticks but they have nothing solid to fall back on so its all inconsistent and that is reflected in the quality of the games and the audience reception
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>>485541730
>game and dlc constantly teases that they'll be better and more than groupies
>they're not better and just groupies who 99.9% of the time just discuss Sonic

I hate frontiers and this series so much.
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>>485542195
SHE GRABBED HIS BALLS
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>>485542301
canon is literally dogshit. idc what is canon and what is not anymore
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>>485542246
Black people like shitty anime though?
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>>485538702
i'm tired of people spamming shadow's shitty favorite "food"
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I know TMOSTH is non-canon, but I seriously hope the next Sonic Team game takes the Amy characterization from that and IDW Riders arc into her next appearance.
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>>485542454
SHUT THE FUCK UP
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Say something nice about Mohawknic
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>>485542079
It's way too consistent to be ai
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>>485542246
>>485542510
bratty rabbit needs correction
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>>485541998
Frontiers is horrible, every character expresses themselves like Dark Souls NPCs and frequently relies on Family Guy gags to retcon previous games, which is cringe. I guess the lack of coordination between the writing team and the devs didn't help either. As for the IDW comics, they are more tolerable. I don't mind them, but I understand how cringy Redeemnic can be. I prefer it over Archie tho, because at least Ian put some effort into making a semi interesting story without relying heavily on drama, politics, and shipping.
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>>485541998
Not one bit. He has headcanoned all of these games together as one big story, instead of individual projects that are made by different teams and goals. His writing reads like fan shit.
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>>485542003
Holy shit this. It's not fucking different than the nostalgia pandering we've had for over for over a decade. but shadowfags just don't care because it makes them clap.
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>>485542252
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>>485542407
keep seething
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>>485538978
Peak Amy
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>>485542553
That's what I'm thinking. The eye detail looks consistent as well as the fingers..fuck..I guess that artist really is just that kino.
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>>485542528
As a kid I imagined him that he was my cool brother and I would try to impress him by running through my neighborhood as fast as I could and train myself to become as fast as him.
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>>485542252
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TMoStH's whole thing was calling itself non-canon it says it on the store page why are people surprised about this
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>>485542454
I like cool anime :(
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Looks these coleslaw crunching bumpkins really means business!
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>>485542635
I want to see new stuff happen between old characters.
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It's obvious that there would be a split in the fanbase between the English speaking market that gets targeted content like Archie and IDW versus the second-tier ESL market that has to rely on second hand online scans and subs.

You also have a big youth culture among zoomers and younger millennials that are hardcore invested in DBZ and other Shounen properties so weebery is a pretty common mindset in much the same way as it is among lower class whites and blacks in America: as a cosplay culture substituting for cultural rot. Plus their countries have never been introduced to an established overarching shared universe the way westerners have, so the idea of things existing in context is thoroughly alien to them.

This is not a problem with Europeans, who have always grown up with stuff like Donald Duck and Mickey comics. The primary split in the fanbase is a racialized one and it can't be ignored.
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>>485542775
nobody reads
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>>485542772
Mmmmmmm
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>>485542595
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdfHBBrXjU8

This is the feel I miss in the Sonic fandom. Nobody makes stuff like this anymore.
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>>485542775
nooooooooo please be owned please be owned please be owned please please please please please please i need this please please
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i wish i would erase people from across the internet that bitches about ai all the time
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>>485542647
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>>485542962
give me a few months
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>>485542775
don't pretend that sega doesn't make non-canon games canon
>rivals
or in reverse
>chronicles
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>>485542861
LIKE WHAT?!
Shadow with Maria? repeated le wholesome shit
Shadow with Emerl? repeated shit from battle
Shadow with Black doom? we already know how it'll end
It's just retreading
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>>485542942
Fixed.
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>>485539638
That requires two people and Silver lost the knowledge to do that since he doesn't remember 06.
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Lanolin doesn't want to be a slut, but she's forced to act like one because it's the only way to keep her boyfriends attention away from her mother's seduction.
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>>485542252
>>485542647
>>485542772
>>485543052
>Mighty is the only guy who can get Honey to drop her act
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>>485543113
She likes foxboys
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>>485542393
Ian's concept of "character progression" Is fucking ass and was used as an excuse two kill SonAmy
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>>485542993
Would you care to explain your feelings more?
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>>485543113
oops wrong image
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>>485542435
Sex with shellless Mighty
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>>485543360
Comedy gold
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>>485543294
I blame him and sonic team for it's ass story. it's a group effort after all.
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>>485542375
>We broke continuity so bad we need to do a Crisis to reset everything!

Sonic really is DC....
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>>485543192
This is the result;
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>>485543087
it's interesting to me that Chronicles is the only game where every character is on-model and the story is self-serious but isn't canon.
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>>485543095
It's a retread for long time fans. Newer fans from the movies are getting a quick franchise recap because, let's be honest, they are the ones Sega wants
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>>485543360
BASED
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>>485543203
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>>485543360
The rest need to be edited for the greater good
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kys beaner
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they said repeatedly that shadow gens only exists to promote the movie why are we dissecting this
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>editing someone's meme art for just more spamming
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https://x.com/zxnoshima/status/1711859505682632814#m
Is he right?
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Subarashi chinchin mono
Kintama no kami aru
Sore no oto sarubobo
Iie
Ninja ga imasu

Hey hey let's go
Kenka suru
Taisetsu na mono
Protect my balls
Boku ga warui so let's fighting
Let's fighting love
Let's fighting love

Kono uta chotto baka
Wake ga wakaranai
Eigo ga mechakucha
Daijobu
We do it all the time

Hey hey let's go
Kenka suru
Taisetsu na mono
Protect my balls
Boku ga warui so let's fighting
Let's fighting love
Let's fighting love
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I LOVE SHIPPING!!!
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The Core 4™ & The Forgotten 4™
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Sonic Chronicles was a delusion. It never actually existed. People just played along because they felt sorry for the people who were mentally ill and unstable, but Iizuka ripped off that bandage finally.
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Would Willoby say "Human Men"?
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>>485543728
Yes
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>>485542904
>This is not a problem with Europeans, who have always grown up with stuff like Donald Duck and Mickey comics. The primary split in the fanbase is a racialized one and it can't be ignored.

So what's up with the Don Rosa spam that happened when the new Ducktales show was airing?
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>>485543728
>he
>he
fag
>he
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>>485543863
Will Shadow also become a delusion?
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>>485543728
For once yes
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Honey sisters....
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>>485543728
unironically yes. it was still okay even relatively recently. the first sonic movie was where this shit completely died. the kinds of new fans this hollywood capeshit that has pretty much nothing to do with sonic brought in are complete garbage tier, drama whores, and consoomers who accept absolutely no criticism of the franchise
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>>485543728
Sonic peaked in 2003
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>>485544160
he will first see the other vaulted characters beckoning to him. the final level of SxS is the vault. Little does Shadow know that SEEING vaulted characters means you will be vaulted.
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>>485541998
I only read IDW up until Bad Guys and the one winter chao race thing and only thing I've really enjoyed was Bad Guys. Neo Metal was pretty mid and Zombot was just a lame slog that couldn't have ended sooner. For more overarching elements written by him I'd have to read the rest of it and see how they play out myself but I have no plans to do so.
For Frontiers, what did he actually write?
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>we all do evolve!
>into a same character!
>actually we don't, we're still with sonic
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>>485543728
The Sonic fanbase hasn't changed much.
It just took 15+ years for other fanbases to catch up to our level.
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>>485544336
Mighty is for Honey.
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>>485543750
God, I hate what the west has done to this character.
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>>485543998
They were upset about not getting an adaptation of the comics, not that the cartoon had a continuity. My argument is that the non-euros in the fandom reject the notion of continuity at ALL because they have no mental pattern for it.
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>>485543998
Don Rosa isn't a European exclusive hidden gem or even a "Released only in Britain" STC
Don Rosa's books have been released worldwide and have a worldwide fanbase.

The Don Rosa duck stories are better than New Ducktales and it's a good comparison point to choose considering New Ducktales were adding elements of those stories without realising any of its charm.
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>>485543728
Yes. the early Youtube internet was peak internet in general.
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>>485544364
you know that if the movie bombed we wouldn't HAVE a franchise right?
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>>485543717
it counts as spamming/flooding
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>>485544479
>Bad Guys enjoyer
Nice.
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>>485544638
>The movie rebooted the fandom.
We, oldies, are not canon anymore
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Canon shouldn't even matter but dweebs are addicted to playing with lore like a puzzle now.
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Playing Sonic Frontiers is awkward knowing Amy's "character development" Ian wrote there was denied by Sega.
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>>485544494
I wanna gobble Knuckles's cock
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>>485544448
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>>485542843
She's getting spitroasted.
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>>485543728
zxnoshima is correct but this person literally just posts hot takes on twitter all day in the hopes of getting lots of likes.
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Coник
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>>485541998
I enjoy it. I don't find it as atrocious as other people do here, but it isn't groundbreaking either.
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>>485544731
>No, we can't
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>shh don't talk about it
>d-don't make news articles about it
>IT'S REALLY NOT A BIG DEAL
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>>485544638
are you retarded? if the movie bombed then theyd fucking move on and just stick to making games and a comic like they had been. if all the other flops sonic had, especially notorious sonic 06, didnt kill the series then a movie wouldnt either
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>>485544801
Bark and Fang
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Don't you get it? Don't you see that we already lost? We are NOT getting Maekawa style writing or 2000s characterizations back EVER AGAIN. The movie audience are the people they want. They make that clear time and time again and you just ignore the evidence. Why? Do you like being delusional? We're fucked. Stick to playing the old games, because they're not coming back. We're stuck with preachy wordy jokey Ian Sonic FOREVER. Iizuka fucked us without a condom.
Do you seriously think they'll even consider "Oh hey, a small handful of people really liked Sonic and the Black Knight, we should make more games with that tone!!"
NO. They'll see that Snapcube got forty trillion views on xer latest video and copy that. They'll greenlight another show where Shadow isn't allowed to scowl.
The 2000s are OVER. The Adventure vibe is DEADER THAN AOSTH.
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>>485544850
Caмый лyчший пepcoнaж в миpe.
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>>485545153
daam blud we should just unalive ourselves fr fr you go first and I'll getchu back
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>>485544990
If the movie bombed we wouldn’t have that extra year Iizuka pushed for. There’s no reason for an exec to listen to him that time outside of the fact the movie was a moderate hit.
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Being Espio's human wife. Espio climbing into my lap and gazing up at me with her beautiful, gold eyes. Smiling down at my cute chameleon husband and wrapping my arms around him. Petting Espio as he slowly falls asleep on me.
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>>485544990
are you a fucking idiot?
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>>485544990
>and just stick to making games
Sega literally told Iizuka in no uncertain terms that Frontiers was his last chance to make a game that wasn't a flop or they'd shelve the series.
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Fang would do anything for money
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>>485545153
sonic has changed
sonic is dead
the west killed him
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>>485545153
>The 2000s are OVER.
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>>485545445
anything?
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>>485544990
they literally said frontiers only had the time and budget it needed because of the movie. If it bombed, Sonic team would have released an even shittier game than Frontiers and Sega would be certain that Sonic is an unsalvagable IP.

The Sonic Movie was our Final Fantasy. That's not a pun.
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>>485544984
Shut up already goddamn. I hate SoA as much as the next guy but shut up.
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>>485545445
this is why he's better than both shadow and rouge because unlike those softies, fang has zero soft sides and only cares for himself.
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>>485545445
>Awww you gave me a nickname, fangypoo?
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>>485517484
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>>485545445
>Fruity cravings
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>>485545445
Money is not everything in life, anon-san.
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Bring back Bark and Bean bring brack bark and bean bring bean back bark and bark and bean
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>485545587
Keep seething Evan.
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>>485545612
Free Riders was the most ruthless Rouge has ever been. She really felt like a female Fang there.
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>Sonic fans don't make AMV's anymo-
https://youtu.be/2xj5Ld7xOus?si=IjBsp1MKN9Na1j6C
>Sonic fans don't make cool looking fangames anymo-
https://youtu.be/0dgRA7BInOs?si=2VAjzftQbcnqsaH-
https://youtu.be/kvo1H6MqKao?si=G-RJFZXjdWO_SIeP
https://youtu.be/xUr5ajmJ8W4?si=wibfTGg7MZqWe_Mv
>Sonic fans don't make animations anymo-
https://youtu.be/FLoi6HYcwr8?si=p9uu9u95nL4BPSi8
https://youtu.be/q2bl4w15B-Y?si=qHoeFGrKciouKrA5
https://youtu.be/tCM2U4-cgc0?si=DH5fzpIm_gWs5RRe
>Sonic fans don't make fan films anymo-
https://youtu.be/3BIB865_Jio?si=zIrqZZ3Qsc5JGNuZ

Regardless of what you think of the quality of these videos, the passion is still there and won't go away anytime soon.
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>>485544809
>nows your LAST CHANCE to pay ONLY 9.99 to finish the story!
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boy it would be great if the sonic movies were actually good
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>>485545615
Why does she want to have sex with him?
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>>485545838
westernshit can never be good.
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>>485545838
They are. Just not to you
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Fans: The Sonic movies don't matter because they're non canon. Sega only cares about the games

Iizuka: Without the Sonic Movie, I would have been dragged in front of a grand jury and summarily executed along with my friends and coworkers.
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He has to be more than just obstacle to get to doom, right? There is no way they would have someone who is literally part of a TIME god and not do anything with that in the scenario they're in. Plus, he's a schemer, don't you think he would make plans againist shadow and his daddy too?
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>>485533818
I hate this. It means SoJ still refuses to acknowledge the IDW characters as part of the Sonic series.
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>>485545620
Finally some good coloring
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>>485546029
>India and south america that close

What a horrible place that would be.
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what if you
shut the fuck up
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>>485535720
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>>485546067
Sorry bro, he's been demoted to Egg Walker tier
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>>485546191
Who?
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>>485545445
>Trip shows Fang her dragon hoard

what does he do
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>>485546183
thats india and africa retard
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>>485545445
true. superstars showed as much.
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>>485546225
Subarashii
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>>485545615
her cute little teef...
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>>485545620
Thank you very much.
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>>485545007
Canon.
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Metalow
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>>485545825
Meanwhile the modding community is deader than ever due to a combination of trannybanana, denuvo, and discord...
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>>485546183
Burger education, everyone
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>>485545909
She imprinted with him the moment they met
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>>485545779
they'll be back in the next classic game
>>485546264
he shoots her in the face and goes about his business.
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>>485546045
>Iizuka: Without the Sonic Movie, I would have been dragged in front of a grand jury and summarily executed along with my friends and coworkers.
wtf I hate the movies now
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>>485546225
fuckwolfamy I will treasure this pic until my dying day. Thank you. Thank you for this blessed gift.
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>>485546408
Is this not a reference to the Jurassic Park scene in which a velociraptor jumps out of the bushes and kills its former tamer?
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>>485541998
>SHONEN SONIC KINO IS BACK
>look inside
>it's just SA1 but bad and with glup shitto-tier dialogue
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>>485546225
Not OR but that's cute. Cute!
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>>485546045
also iizuka
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>>485546280
>>485546402
Look again
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When it really comes down to it.
Sonic would vote Biden and Tails would vote Trump.
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>>485546408
I wonder what Ohshima-san thinks about Tang?
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>>485546225
That's cute as fuck.
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>>485546264
He accepts his place as her house husband.
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>>485546651
man, he's based
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>>485546653
that's russia idiot
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>>485546675
Sonic stays at home, Tails votes for a third party, Knuckles votes for Trump and Shadow forgets to vote for Biden.
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>>485546029
>>485546653
Are we forgetting the fact that Jet has a map of our world in his ship's meeting room? It's not like in Shadow where it only resembles our continents, it's straight up Earth.
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>>485546653
Here's the full map, they have an actual "south america" down to the left
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post the oldest saved sonic image on your device
or else
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>>485545620
Anon. that's the coolorfag. Thought you hated him
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>>485546576
It was a very cute request. Big is very fun to draw but next time I have to make him bigger.
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God, why do they look like that?
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>>485546675
Sonic wouldn't vote.
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>>485535023
FFF says he forgot that future, which he did, he has no memory of 06 ever happening.
He's, ideally, from Rival's future, but if Rivals turns out to not be canon, then that would have to mean that Silver met Sonic off-screen before Colors, since they already know each other in that game.
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Is there a single thing Shounen about IDW Sonic?
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>>485546651
>He wanted to work on an RPG and is surprised they (Sonic Team) haven't
So what am I supposed to see?
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>Shadow was made 50 years ago
>SA2 was released in 2001
Was Shadow a cold war project?
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>>485547081
He told me he did.
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>>485547050
I love big and blaze together so if you ever get a hankering to draw them together it will give me great joy
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>>485546832
That's clearly India.

>>485546940
Oh.

>>485546923
Sonic doesn't have consistent geography on purpose.
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>>485547061
happy?
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>>485546568
If they ever made a lollipop chainsaw 2 I'd like it if they gave Juliet a delinquent rival from another school. Amy is way closer to Juliet than Surge though.
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SA2, Unleashed and Forces show that the planet the series takes place on isn't Earth, it's just earth-like.
Where the FUCK is Australia?
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>>485547252
Because he's a world hopper.
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>>485546923
Unleashed and Colors share a world map that's also completely different and Forces also has its own single-continent planet
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>>485547145
OG Fangfag, is that you?
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>>485547082
FFF says he forgot how the future was fixed. He forgot the events of 06 but still remembers the apocalypse that's what Ian (poorly) writes him around.
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>>485547128
When Sonic beat up Zavok for one panel.
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>>485547145
He was right all along
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>>485546973
Who are you talking to?
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>>485547145
fangfag was right. he warned us and we didn't listen.
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>>485547376
Two worlds?
Naaaah, look at This
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>Nic... C-can you hold my hand? I don't do swell in dark places...
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>>485547307
No. It's hard to describe, but they look so... American. Like someone purposely tried to break the conventions of what a Sonic Character looks like.
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>>485546136
Wrong replied.
>>485546973
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Okay here me out, the next game borrows the giant Titan-mechanic from Frontiers but involves the characters themselves growing to immense sizes due to the power of some macguffin and Sonic is still his normal 3'3" self having to travel up and down them. They already made giant Eggman in Dream Team.
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>Mr. Iizuka, why are there different Sonic world maps?
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>>485546964
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>>485547358
In another dimension.
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>>485547684
amy has an animal mouth
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>>485547698
When is Vector going to bang Vanilla silly?
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Reminder that Gerald wasted government funding on unstable experiments and just had Alien Satan complete his project for him anyway.
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maybe the continents got all fucked up because of dark gaia
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>>485547648
Warned about what?
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>>485547403
Playing the Devil's advocate, I could see the argument that the Time Eater caused Forces' future to happen and that's the future they could be talking about.
The Forces prequel comic issue where Silver and Knuckles fight a phantom Chaos 0 and the first IDW issue that Silver appears in confirm that Forces caused a bad future ruled by the Eggman Empire 200 years in the future, this is the only explanation for why Silver is in Forces.
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Reminder that Gerald in the movies will have made a fucking time machine for some reason.
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SEGA of America lost.
SEGA of Japan won.

Sonic.
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i like fang being evil but i also like trip being his morality pet. He's a bounty hunter not an outright villain so its fine for him to have a begrudging soft side
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Im gonna be productive for 3 days
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>>485546964
a picture of werehog sonic by tracy yardley, saved in 2008
>this picture is probably older than some people ITT
it hurts
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Archie was pretty far from shonen but especially Sonic Universe was closer to it than IDW was. It was a cool comic in general, I just loved it.
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>>485548038
Where did you pull that info from?
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>>485548112
First Eggman and now Fang. why do people want the bad guys to be softer
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>>485548131
>3 days
About damn time. You fucking bum.
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>>485547724
I love this "de-anthro" Sonic character stuff, it's so deliciously cursed.
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>>485548139
anon ppl born in 2008 are still under 18
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>>485547998
I like her design but I'm iffy on her in Sonic. Seems like she'd fit a setting that was more half-and-half Nights/Sonic, which I'd be down for.

She kind of looks like Puffy too. I imagine her having some kind of bouncy power where she crushes stuff with her belly
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>>485547843
>When is Vector going to bang Vanilla silly?
When she accepts the sacraments and takes confession.
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>>485548131
Wait, is the Tails gif poster the same person that posts lewds to get himself banned occasionally?
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>>485548168
The leaks that showed the space station reversing time.
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>>485547376
>>485547664
>the world keeps getting destroyed by Eggman's antics, so everyone just moves from planet to planet
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>>485548227
Give a big round of applause for anon everybody, this was some really tough math for him
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IMAGINE your favorite character getting consumed by shippers. Couldn't be me...
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>>485547376
Ok so
First we saw the map in Shadow. Then the events of Sonic Advance 3 happen, where Eggman split apart the planet. After Sonic restored the planet the continents moved into what we see in Unleashed. Then Eggman split the planet again and after being restored again, the continents shifted into what we see in Forces. The realistic Earth map in Riders is just a map Jet found and thought was interesting enough to hold on to. OR it could be a map of what their planet used to look like before another earth splitting event occurred.
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>>485548357
Faggot, the station was not doing that.
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>>485548112
>so its fine for him to have a begrudging soft side
fuck off i'm so sick of this shit
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>>485548198
because real people are faceted and that makes characters interesting and more dynamic instead of being caricatures.

Personally I prefer Eggman being an irredeemable bastard but he's still a human so I don't see what's wrong about him showing feelings. You "people" love to latch onto minor moments from the games and he showed emotion for Maria in SA2.
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i like eggdad
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Does the animal world have a Light and Dark Gaia if it's a separate planet?
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>>485548520
Then leave. This fanbase is not for you. You are not welcome here.
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>>485548198
Character development or character growth?
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>>485548268
>She kind of looks like Puffy too. I imagine her having some kind of bouncy power where she crushes stuff with her belly
Atleast she's putting that weight to good use
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>>485548490
It's some sort of time manipulation as we saw past events flashing by
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>>485548227
i started posting on this site when i was 13 anon that doesnt mean anything
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>>485548112
>i also like trip being his morality pet
He doesn't need a morality pet. Kill yourself.
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>>485547724
That's Oceania, you hapa.
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>>485548432
In my headcanon map I'm making, I just use the Shadow map, Forces' "map" is just a larger island off to the side, and I completely ignore Unleashed's because fuck Unleashed and the pixar humans
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>>485544494
Ian's idea for sonic "character progression" is fucking stupid
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>485548619
(you)
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I like the idea of Fang being like Archie Shadow
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I just want the villains not to be softened up so much to an extent. I like it when the evil guys are like that.
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>>485548619
You seem like the kind of person that hates gatekeeping.
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>>485548636
Because it's lame
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>>485548526
>>485548636
People like you are why we can't get good villains anymore.
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>>485548707
God I wonder how many underaged faggots are on here. There was a guy who thought espio was a modern character and god mad when we called him out and mentioned knuckles chaotix.
Do you think he was like 10? Gross.
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>>485548432
If we still had Archie it would have been cool to see some exploration of what happens when the continents keep getting moved around. Do countries end up with new neighbors? Like, oops, the centuries-long treaties we had with those other guys are now irrelevant because we just got smashed up next to our geopolitical rivals?

Though it seems like the continents were made to split apart so you could also get exploration of that.

What a shame. We miss out on so much.
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>>485548112
Based
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>>485548834
Define what's "lame".
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>>485548112
No thank you.
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>>485548803
god forbid characters develop
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>>485548803
I just like evil guys being evil because they can. Like the good old days. No multi layer bullshit. No "deep" and "tragic" reasons for it.
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>>485547864
It was the 50's/70's, government oversight over anything that wasn't going to help towards nukes was lax to say the least.
President probably ignored all the letters from that odd scientist working on health issues for years until someone had to personally tell him that the odd scientist accidentally made a living biomass weapon, let alone made a deal with the devil
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>>485548792
What about Shadow being like Archie Fang?
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>>485548112
doesnt fang walk past trip when she calls out for help from him?
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>>485548190
Almost every femver is uwuver
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>>485548923
Giving bad guys morality pets. It's even more lame because sage and trip are sucky characters to begin with
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>>>/v/682375501
>They see "how can we reduce production cost. Is this product hip? Is this product a Mercedes, Ferrari, or an affordable car? Can we make a Mercedes while keeping the production cost as low as possible?".

>The car analogy is particularly accurate because it describes why Sonic was continuously pushed into a boring, grimdark direction instead of a fun, colorful direction. They were making Sonic as if they were making a car.

when was sonic pushed in a boring grimdark direction?
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>>485549012
Yeah! Like Tails in Forces!
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>You know what Sonic needs? Geopolitics.
>You know what Sonic needs? Character development.

Smdh
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>>485549012
>every villain needs to have character development or they're shit and i'll lose my mind
zoom zoom. you wouldn't survive the 90s and earlier.
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>>485548814
You would be wrong. I love gatekeeping. I want you and your kind kept out.
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Sonic needs more CUNNY
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>>485549015
you sound like a fucking child or like you have a developmental disability

how much of a fan of the Joker are you
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Give Fang a girlfriend
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ban children from sthg and the sonic franchise.
incarcerate all pedos. castrate all pedos. Death to all pedos
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>>485548889
We've had people in their 30's come here and know a lot less, getting angrier than the Espio anon if you called them out on it too
Some people who talk a lot about Sonic just don't like Sonic, it appears
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>>485548889
Espio, Vector and Charmy ARE Modern characters though. They are sold under the Modern branding.
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>oldfags seething that Sonic isn't the fucking hunger games
Let villains grow. It's ok.
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>>485548432
Jet's map is the Earth as it originally was. The moon being blown up in SA2 caused global tidal changes resulting in the map in STH.
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>>485549062
Yes. These people are fucking delusional. Fang gives no shits about Trip.
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Sonic Lost World bombed hard yet Sonic Team never vaults The Zeti like they do with all their other failures/ under performances.
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>wanting evil characters to just be evil
good luck with that, the modern sonic fanbase could not handle that shit. lanolin is proof enough that sonicfags are more media illiterate than ever before and cant handle the slightest ounce of negativity. eggman might be turbohitler but behind closed doors he will like puppies and quilting and gender affirmation and you will like it
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every post about giving fang a gf of some kind is dfwnn
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>>485549121
Shadow (if you ignore half the game) and 06
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Static characters or cardboard cutout characters?
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>>485549383
that is like saying sonic tails and knuckles are modern characters because they are sold under the modern branding
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>>485549294
Says the retarded kid who needs to have his villains as soft and pathetic as him.
>>485549410
>zoomer continuing to be retarded
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>>485549449
I reme,ber they gave Ian permission to make new ones. They don't care about the Zeti.
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What if the characters develop to be more evil instead of becoming less threatening and more lame.
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>>485536693
Apparently Ian didn't write that line. He was confused when someone told him about it.
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>>485548601
>Does the animal world have a Light and Dark Gaia if it's a separate planet?
I think it must. What if the Light/Dark Gaia are also aliens that like Black Doom and the Ancients and therefore knew how to use the Chaos Emeralds and were drawn to the Earth because they were there long ago but after the Ancients brought them? What if all "Gods" in the Sonic universe are just really old and powerful aliens that basically govern a chosen star/planet they like (think Mother Wisp).
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>>485549468
let dfwnn have her fun
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>>485549410
I don't need Yosemite Sam to have a tragic sob story. Let Fang just be a clumsy greedy prick, let Eggman be a wacky nutjob that wants to take over the world and turn it into a funhouse, let Jet be cocky and go fast. This franchise is supposed to be lighthearted first and foremost.
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>>485549420
if they are gonna ship tang why not have sexual bullying?
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>>485549420
despite all the tripfag autism its always good to know that fang still is in fact based as fuck, always was and always will be
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>>485549464
>the modern sonic fanbase could not handle that shit
Well duh. Most of the modern fanbase is filled with the most autistic people on the planet. They project their pathetic selves onto these characters after all.
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>>485549627
>Everything is aliens
Shut up Ian.
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>>485549375
If you get rid of the pedos and children, there'd be no one left
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>>485549556
they... they are? Anon Classic and Modern Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, and Amy are all sold as totally different and unrelated characters from their modern counterparts. They have entirely different packaging and branding materials for both versions of the characters. You can also never have Mighty with Vector because one is a Classic character and the other is a Modern character.
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>>485544494
>each of these fucks talk about going on a solo adventure in Frontiers
>it's actually treated pretty seriously, all of them want to be independent like Sonic is
>immediately ignored, in all the media after, they still stick to Sonic no matter what, like Frontiers never happened
>in Final Horizon where they can't talk to Sonic, they have no chemistry with each other at all, with the only exception being Eggman
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>>485540930
>as it turns out, no one wants a "writer" with a bad track record writing characters working on the series.
Then no one on the series can do it.
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The cute thing about this OC is that Fang doesn't mind her prosthetic arm because he knows what it's like having a body deformity
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>>485549601
>T-Then that's character assassination or character regression or something!
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>>485549591
I can guarantee you have this t-shirt or poster.
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>>485549420
Man I wanna suck his dick dry
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>>485549713
If Yosemite Sam was in a more complex story like adventure-era or modernSonic, it would make sense to flesh his character out more. He would stick out like a sore thumb otherwise.
Complex doesn't mean turning good, but it's good for them to be understandable.
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How do you feel about the fact that Fang's creator likes Tang?
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>>485549752
I like them but sonic has had too many chili dogs
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>>485549986
I don't need a poster, I have a mirror.
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>>485549713
These retards who want every villain to have some backstory on why they became a villain is how we saw Cruella and Maleficent get their characters destroyed in the live action movies.

These morons don't get that Sonic isn't a narrative driven franchise.
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>>485550050
Its clearly a different take on his character. But creators can appreciate that as well, some people don't take it that serious.
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I like how you idiots think it has to be one way or the other, that either everyone must develop or no one must develop.
I can't wait for summer to be over so you burger bites go back to school, immature little brats.
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I did my job, you are no longer talking about AI and westerners
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>>485549752
feels like if sonic got a 90s spinoff ova based on satam
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>>485550027
You're braindamaged. What your autistic ass doesn't get that not every character needs fleshing out. They serve certain purposes to drive the story. That's it.
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>>485550103
>Cruella
Kek I forgot about that one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz6MvVotEMU
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new pariah just dropped
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>>485549619
I know that. I don't know if the line is in the JP version though.
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>>485550103
>These morons don't get that Sonic isn't a narrative driven franchise.
this is your headcanon and your own personal hangup. Furthermore you are trying to project your own retarded ideas onto the comics, which are by every possible measure "narrative driven."

In conclusion, please kill yourself, Mickeyshitter.
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>>485550209
Well done!
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>>485549762
Riders pulled that twist years ago but everyone forgets. even Shadow did it
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>>485550279
Characters are better when they're fleshed out. Fuck off.
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>>485549420
love how fang is still a remorseless bastard and didn't become a softie like eggman.
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>>485550279
>nooo it has to fit my rigid narrow idea of what a character is or its le wrong!
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>>485550438
Ignore him. That's the same dumbfuck who rambles on about how Sonic should be like Mickey and just be a silent unchanging brand mascot. He worships corporations and the idea of storytelling makes him shit his pants.
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>>485550050
He likes Fang. He only "likes" Tang because Fang was in the fanart being posted.
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>>485550372
The field dialogue seemed to have got in unchanged, just the main cutscenes got machine TL'd by Kishimoto.
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What the hell is a "glup-shitto"?
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Sonic should finally marry anyone and settle down. This is character development.
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Why is it ok for Sonic to be edgy, but not Loony tunes?
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>>485549854
Their chemistry is liking Sonic
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>>485550660
>Spoiler
Sally Acorn.
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>>485550103
>Cruella and Maleficent get their characters destroyed in the live action movies.
this is precisely why i am ok with eggman just being a complete dick and nothing more. the day we ever get some story on why he became a power hungry maniac is the day they might as well kill him off entirely.
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>>485535051
>the japanese are retarded
>*immediately backpedals* I MEAN uhh the ones on sonic team...
ah yes, japan has literally never done a successful overarching story before. ask me how i know sonic and probably pokemon knowing this general are the only japanese franchises you've played.
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>>485550027
Eggman being full of himself and seeing his "children" as nothing more than his property that only exist to do as he pleases is more realistic than I think you realize.
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>>485550590
If the time traveler line is in the JP version then ST does imply that Silver can control his time travel.(Unless Sonic is talking about a different time traveler)
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>>485550658
twitter ass star wars meme. It's supposed to mean "irrelevant background character" but it's come to mean "anything I don't like"
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Tails should stop tinkering with machines and hit the gym. This is character development.
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>>485550378
>actual zoomer retard doesn't actually like Sonic nor understand what it's about
Play in traffic please. Don't even need to wait for summer to send your dumb ass back to school. Just end yourself.
>>485550438
>>485550568
Samefagging zoomer autist. You wouldn't survive the 90s or 2000s.
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>>485550713
>Trip telling Amy all the places where she and Fang did "patty cake"
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Sonic should fight Bowser.
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Bowser is too good for the Sonic franchise.
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>>485550679
the absolute best Loony Tunes media we've had in years was the sci-fi adventure Duck Dodgers and the sitcom Loony Tunes Show which was like 80% about the characters love lives and dating. The worst was the story-free gag series that claimed to be a "return to the original format"

there is a lesson to be learned here.
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>>485550837
According to stupid fucks like this >>485550438
>>485550568 it would be incredible writing.
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"Character development" fags are always one step away from the slippery slope of Penders-tier wank. They keep asking for more complexity and nuance until one day Sally slaps Sonic and then they realize how cringe it all is, and they get the literary equivalent of post-nut shame.

Characters should only develop in their premier game.

>>485550837
Shadow should become a poet! He's got trauma and he needs to express it.
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Surge?
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>>485549601
They did that with Eggman in IDW and people bitched. Then they made him softer in Frontiers and people bitched.
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>see posts from people who like eggdad
>it’s all about him doing Reddit wholesome things for his daughter

Sage was a mistake.
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>>485549994
based and samepilled. just say no to softboys
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>>485550680
That's their chemistry with Sonic, they don't have any chemistry with each other.
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>>485550981
>and the sitcom Loony Tunes Show which was like 80% about the characters love lives and dating.
Ah so now we know why you have such dogshit opinions because you just have dogshit taste in general.
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>>485550754
You can't deny my point but you just want to seethe about the horor of grorious nihon being challenged? Ok.
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>>485550778
>Eggman being full of himself and seeing his "children" as nothing more than his property that only exist to do as he pleases is more realistic than I think you realize.
eggman isn't black doom
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>>485550787
If that was the thought then Ian would know and his FFF profile wouldn't say the same about it being out of his control. It's just a case of them not screening those script lines.
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>>485550981
>characters love lives and dating.
Will Sonic characters have that someday?
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>>485551039
The retards who cry about muh character development don't actually know what it means. They saw their dumbass friend say it and saw other dumbasses say it so they just followed the crowd because they have no mind of their own.
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This is what character development fags are asking for.
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>>485551189
lol @ this retard actually going to bat for wabbit
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>>485551174
Fang needs a girl who wouldn't question his methods
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>>485551180
According to Sonic Team, endlessly chattering among themselves about him is it
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>>485550679
Sheeple hate both being edgy but being edgy has been a part of Sonic's brand since arguably SatAM while Looney Tunes is recognized more as goofy fun for the whole family.

In reality both were created as edgy counterparts to their big and wholesome branded rivals (Disney and Mario)
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Some of you didn't have a father in your lives.
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>>485551352
Sonic crying is fucking kino
It shows that even the hardest niggas can go through some tough shit.
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The Looney Tunes show where Lola is Bugs' dumbass girlfriend is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sls5dX30klk
My ideal Sonamy.
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>>485550837
>Tails should stop tinkering with machines and hit the gym. This is character development.
Considering the amount of people I've seen shit on his mech in SA2 since it moved away from him being more physical before, this is quite an ironic shitpost.
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>>485551039
>Shadow should become a poet! He's got trauma and he needs to express it.
Shadow also bought Amy concert tickets and even went with her to the concert. Clearly character development which means it's great.
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>>485551174
Was he still being called Nack in the reboot?
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>>485550875
lol at the audacity of this retard accusing anybody else of "not liking or understanding Sonic" when its entire premise is that "Sonic isn't about anything at all it's just a brand to slap on backpacks and t-shirts."
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Amy should travel and share her love with the whole world, not just Sonic. This is character development.
>>485551530
She shared her love with Shadow all right.
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>>485551159
The people who actually like Eggman bitched about him in Frontiers and they people who don't like Eggman bitched about him in IDW. So yeah. Sounds accurate to me.
>>485551163
Let's hope Sage gets vaulted so she won't further ruin Eggman.
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>>485551462
X did it better by having him face away from the screen with a single tear
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>>485551404
Well, Sonic Team has made plenty of catastrophic mistakes in the past, this isn't exactly out of character for them.
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>>485535051
Does Sonic NEED an overarching story or universe to have good writing?
No.
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>>485551495
it was a very good show.
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>>485551454
Scribbs is one of the only people i've seen draw Sage do evil or cruel things. I forget if she's actually evil or not because I didn't play Frontiers and I never will.
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>>485551212
>the only japanese game ive ever played is sonic. why are the japanese retarded subhumans incapable of writing? so glad we have superior americans to fix anything that comes out of that shithole.
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>whine about the west's lack of sincerity
>cringes when something tries to be sincere
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Professor Gerald X Black Doom
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>>485551257
You really never played any Sonic game before Frontiers did you?
>>485551352
Pretty much. They want the characters to resemble themselves. Pathetic and insecure about everything.
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>>485550837
don't you retards always cry about Tails only tinkering with machines nowadays and say it's "OOC" though?
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>>485551495
Also Silver should be written like Henery in that show

https://www.tumblr.com/silverequation/753951112316452864/this-is-exactly-silver-to-me-rude-aggro-snarky
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>>485551530
>Clearly character development which means it's great.
Amen brother
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>>485551808
Is your position that Sonic Team are uniquely incompetent at writing for the Japanese then?
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>>485551786
she's not evil in the slightest personally, only by extension initially by helping eggman (and imprisoning him against his will) and even then, by the end of the game, she gets purified so hard by sonic she literally changes appearance and turns blue and white instead of black and red
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>>485551495
This show fucking sucked. Practically assassinated Lola.
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I entirely blame SA2 for the idea of Eggman not being seen as not that bad a guy and deserving some redemption. Everything terrible and selfish he’s done is just ignored for that one shit scene.
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>>485551806
Don't kill yourself. (You) need to preserve your life.
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>>485552015
>Eggman has a good guy daughter
ew I hate her now.
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>>485551774
Would Sonic benefit from an overarching story or universe?
If it's done competently, then sure it would, the problem is that it's not being done competently.
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>>485552004
Not him but considering Frontiers' sales in Japan despite Kishimoto rewriting the script for them, yes.
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>>485551661
>"Sonic isn't about anything at all it's just a brand to slap on backpacks and t-shirts."
So....not the narrative driven shit your autistic little brain tricked yourself into believing?
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>>485551257
Have you seen how he treats Metal and the E-Series? He only pats them on the back when they do his bidding like good little robots, while also taking the credit for creating them, but the second they step out of line or fail him he lashes out and blames everyone but himself. Eggman is a manchild with the power to create "life", he's a textbook abusive father just like Black Doom, and the only difference between them are their methods and end goal.
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>>485552004
is your position that fucking sonic is the standard for japanese writing?
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>>485551949
Why is Fang such a slut?
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Tang...
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>>485551830
HMMMMMM
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>>485550981
The lesson for Sonic is "side content can have all the fun they want as long as they keep the characterizations intact".

I'm fine with naturally extrapolating how a character would "realistically" behave in a world that was written like a game script, but it has to be tasteful and reasonable.

>>485551462
My point is that it's easy to over-indulge. You can easily see that in fan fictions.

>>485552051
They shouldn't have cut the line about him saying they'd be enemies when they met again.
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>>485552174
are you fucking illiterate? reread the post you replied to and try again, ESL.
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Shadow picked up a flower and commenting that it smelled nice. Character development.

Oh and Shadow attacked Sonic and decided to get in his way of his journey because he feels like it and wants to prove his superiority. Character regression.
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>>485551829
The West are never sincere
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>>485552015
>she's not evil in the slightest
>Sage: And then, I would guide you on how to convert that corruption into power so that you may end this conflict and save Father.
>Sonic: And save the world too, right?
>Sage: It is his to conquer, so yes.
Sure anon.
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>>485552347
Off model garbage
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Fang says: I hate women and being nice
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>>485552213
Hey if you got the means
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I think Sonic as a franchise would benefit from its own RPG side series a la the M&L games, but the Chronicles fiasco kindly nipped any chances of that in the bud.
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>>485552330
>Shadow picked up a flower and commenting that it smelled nice.
Yes, he should pick more flowers. De-flowers!
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>>485552051
Yep. Thankfully they don't make it a thing that happened often but having that game show that side of him was a mistake and gave retards the wrong impression of Eggman and felt it justifies him being a fucking simp daddy for his AI "daughter".
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>>485552396
anon you become off model when you grow up...
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>>485551462
It shows that Sonic would rather give up and sob about things instead of getting over it and trying to make things better and move on. Oh wait that's not what Sonic would do at all.
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You hate Sage because she's undeniable proof that Eggman isn't pure evil, yet she herself is evil.
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>>485549853
So if they make a classic espio figure you'd shut the fuck up? Retard.
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>>485552392
yes. through extension. she doesnt personally give a shit about anything other than making eggdad happy (almost like she's a child or something and doesn't see beyond her parent), glad you worked that out. did reading make your head hurt? do you need a tylenol?
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westshit will never be canon
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I don't give a rat's ass about Fang on a personal level but I think I get where Fangfags are coming from. Eggman is strictly evil and self-serving, the only time he has ever helped the heroes is when he had to for his own skin, he has never cared about his creations emotionally and implications that he does are OOC. Sage was a mistake. Some characters are just not meant to have a soft side or to be redeemed.
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>>485552487
>>485552051
I am so, so happy to see how rapidly we have gotten to the point of the jap purists declaring even the games themselves out of character for not fighting their headcanons.

Poetry.
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>>485552195
This. And I'm supposed to believe he'd totally make an exception for an AI girl? Eggman was so OOC in Frontiers with the Sage shit that I had to start actively tuning it out.
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>>485552484
why does the art direction of sonic x make it feel much older than a 2000s cartoon?
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>>485552223
Ew
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>>485552618
Sage is boring too.
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>>485551460
You've never dealt with an abusive and vain parent.
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>>485552219
I am very glad Superstars made them enemies and destroyed the Tangfags.
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holy shit it's almost like having a child changes a man

idiots.
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>>485552718
how come when femoids make inserts to ship with male characters it always come off so masturbatory and self indulgent? it cant just be because i hate women
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>>485552219
Source?
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>>485552718
Wouldn’t be funny if fang played with her belly haha
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>>485552464
Thank goodness for Penders.
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>>485552903
ummmm actually he shouldn't change because....mickey mouse?
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>>485552842
shut the fuck up paraiah
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>>485552928
Scribble drew it after he had Trip accidentally hire Donut Lord to shoot Fang in the head and the dialogue was from one of tdfnwn tangpostings
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>>485551530
I'm still sore that Hot Honey wasn't an idol band revealed to be fronted by the Kot.
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>>485553012
What exactly is the problem with an RPG side series?
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>>485552903
Sage is far from the first Eggman creation that expressed sentience or free will. The others still get treated like tools. Why aren't they children? Because this time the badnik looks like a cute girl? It's fucking retarded.
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>>485552686
Exactly. That is why Sage should have never existed and Eggman should continue being the complete evil bastard he is. I'm just grateful Trip didn't do the same thing with Fang.
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>>485553017
I'm not concerned about the fact that there were changes. I just don't like the direction of the changes that much compared at least to MV Eggman who is very evil
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>>485552905
You only hate women because you lack the social skills to actually speak with them due to your retarded and irrational bigotry that is so bad it's actually cutting off your genetic lineage
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>>485552647
>only by extension initially
>initially
That scene was in the endgame anon. Do YOU need your meds?
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tdfwnn changed the discussion just with shipping art
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>>485553124
That would require the classic and modern divide to disappear.
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Egghitler and Eggdad aren't mutually exclusive.
They're also both dogshit and shouldn't define his whole character.
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>>485552701
Personally I see Sage as more like Gamma in a sense, Eggman is proud and protective of her because she's successful, and because of that he gets to pat himself on the back for creating something impressive. God help her when she starts failing him or going against his orders though, since he is far too full of himself to take the blame and would easily place similar safeguards in order to ensure her obedience. He did the same to Metal when he decided to betray him after all.
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Fang loves Trip AND YOU ALL KNOW IT
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>>485553163
>Sage is far from the first Eggman creation that expressed sentience or free will.
Yes and if you ever had a dog, your child won't be the first sentient creature under your care.
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The type of "character development" people are asking for is indistinguishable from fanwank.
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>>485553163
You should send a strongly worded email to Iizuka and tell him how butthurt you are about how he wrote your headcanon wrong then.
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>>485553201
That was a really interesting post and all, but I still hate women, so cope and seethe etc nigger
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Eggman treating metal too nice is something I dislike
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>>485553163
Yeah. Looks like a cute girl and voiced by Megumi? That's all it took to give these idiots the idea to make Eggman bend the knee to her. Fucking terrible.
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>>485553401
You've yet to explain the difference between the others and Sage
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>>485552701
>And I'm supposed to believe he'd totally make an exception for an AI girl?
Considering Sage never failed or betrayed him, no.
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>>485553361
Both aren't dogshit. But I definitely prefer an Eggman that leans more to evilness more than the soft Eggdad
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>>485553401
>It's ok to abuse and neglect a dog because it's not a human
>Nevermind that Metal and Sage are both robots with free will
What is wrong with you?
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>>485553561
Sage is Eggman's daughter. The others are more like his pets and tools
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>>485553349
The power of love is that powerful.
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>>485552905
Cause most of the time they end up rewriting the male character to revolve around her OC and desires.
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>>485553361
>le complexity!
>le greyness!
Kill. Yourself.
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>>485553163
>Sage is far from the first Eggman creation that expressed sentience or free will. The others still get treated like tools.
Because they all betrayed him.
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>>485553448
why do you hate women?
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>>485553360
First it would require AM2 to get less anal
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>Shadow should be reminded of his promise to Maria by a bubbly optimistic girl and decides to be more than a tool for revenge
Character development.

>Shadow should fuck Amy and Sonic should get jealous teehee
Fanwank.
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>>485553627
But why? Why aren't Gamma, Metal, Omega, etc considered sons? It's literally just bias because Sage is a cute girl. Sage was also developed as a tool just like any other Eggman creation. She is a utility.
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>>485553387
Sure but that's not how the game conveyed it to us. They conveyed it in a way that made it look like Eggman actually cared about her beyond her use as a tool. Which is terrible all-around because Eggman should always be self-serving as the guy who wants to turn the world into Eggmanland to rule over everyone.
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>>485553826
>Shadow should fuck Amy
That's all I need
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>>485553405
Well duh. The autists who want character development are likely the autists who either write their own terrible fanfics and think that should be how the actual characters act OR read people's terrible fanfics and think that's how the actual characters should act.

I bet you money that most of those same autists read/write more fanfics than actually playing the games.
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DfwNN is proof that shippers talk about the games
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>>485553867
>Eggman should always be self-serving as the guy who wants to turn the world into Eggmanland to rule over everyone.
Interesting. Says who? Certainly not Sonic Team considering that's not what's in the game. Your headcanon I guess? That's funny, I thought we were arguing for muh pure jap game canon here.

Care to tell me what's going on? I think you've gotten your wires a little crossed here.
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>>485553867
>Sure but that's not how the game conveyed it to us.

>Who says I can't create life, huh? Just a bunch of proteins bumping together. Anyone can do that. A true genius does it with code and electrons! And if I did create life, she would be brilliant and loyal and perfectly effective! And you know why? Because her dad is a genius, that's why!
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>americans get an oppertunity to make official sonic comics
>Instead of shrugging their shoulders and ignoring bad games like forces and making fun and original stories, they attempt to "fix" the canon and make everything worse
ok America
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>>485553627
That's retarded. She's a creation no different than the others. Stop justifying dogshit writing.
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>>485554161
Why don't YOU bake the next one?
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>>485554050
I wouldn't blame them considering how fucking horrible Sonic Team is at making games. If you like Sonic characters, the games are the absolute worst way to see them.
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>>485554218
The unleashed approach of making a game that ignores the previous five games is fucking dumb actually
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>>485554267
put her in the next OP
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>>485553826
Almost like the fans don't know what they're talking about.
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>>485554223
But she has anime girl face, so clearly she must be treated differently.
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>>485554256
I won't contaminate sthg with my favourite character
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>>485554027
Except Sinively was his nephew and not a product of Eggman's in any sense.
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>>485554218
>NOOOO ARCHIE IS LE SHIT WHY DOESNT IT REFERENCE THE GAMES
>wtf why is IDW referencing the games?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?
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Eggman having a fatherly relationship to one of his creations cannot be reconciled with the E-series storyline and the way it was portrayed. The Eggman that treated the E-series that way and the Eggman who cares for Sage have a gulf between them that cannot be crossed by "character development".
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>>485554323
and that's why idw sucks.
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>>485554117
So you didn't play any of the past games? Thanks for confirming Frontiers was your first Sonic game. Now go away. You need to be 18 to post here.
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>>485554384
No.
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>>485554008
Same desu. I admit that I want to indulge in it too, but I know deep down its perverse to want it.

>>485554050
Yes, I was going to post something to this effect.
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>>485554218
>they attempt to "fix" the canon
Since when? It doesn't change any of the events of Forces or any other game.
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>loves mighty and fang
She's literally me...
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>>485554538
It's almost like they're treated like self-contained stories with barely any care for continuity.
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hips don't lie
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>>485554569
I'm sorry, did Sonic Team not make Frontiers? This is certainly news to me. Because you surely wouldn't be looking at a canon game made by the creators of the brand, who you consistently claim should be held as the highest authority on the characters, and claiming they did it wrong compared to your own personal headcanon, are you?
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>>485554538
You know how some parents pressure their kids into winning a bunch of awards and trophies so that they can brag about how special "their" child is? That's Eggman.
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>>485549986
No but i have this image
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>>485554223
Sage looks human, unlike the others.
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>>485552905
Cause women literally don't care. Look at Tang, Silvaze, Silvisper shippers, they couldn't give a shit about the Male character
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I've started ignoring all posts containing fang. They are extremely low quality every time.



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