trash Gohan edition>DRAGON BALL: Sparking! ZERO The Moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOkd6pXHtYY>Dragon Ball Superdivers Announced! https://youtu.be/8YNyrd9MD0w>Dragon Ball Project: Multi Announced! https://youtu.be/d6bowq2uQM0>Useful links:https://rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>STP medals are now available for purchase (fuck Bandai)>The 2nd Festival of Universes is underwaySDBH News:>MM6 has launched>Majin Ozotto is dead>SDBH SEC card campaign>UR cards based on each SDBH story arc>4 SEC cards based on OG, Z, GT, and Super>3 cards will be compatible with Superdivers>SDBH Databasehttps://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/DBSDV news:>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>Avatars can also equip accessories and level up a skill tree>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot:>Season 3 of DLC has been datamined to be Daima (Part I and Part II)DB The Breakers:>Season 6 released on June 26th>Survivors: CAC, Bulma, Oolong, The Farmer, Chichi, King Furry, Yajirobe, Baba, Dende, King Kai, Gogeta, Cheelai, Lemo, Future Mai, Puar, Jaco, Bra, Launch (Good and Bad)>Raiders: Cell, Frieza, Buu, Vegeta, Ginyu Force, Broly, Goku Black/Zamasu, Baby Vegeta>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira ToriyamaThank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>495216521
I am the strongest in the universe!
>>495322907Shut up Frieza, you'll wake up Beerus.
I am in the universe
I had sex with the entire universe
Farewell nameless warrior.
Why is Roshi so wise
What outfit-form combo will you use the most?
>>495323714Cape teenhan
>>495323714https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kr7BKP5amM
>>495323714goku armorgohan armorvegeta armortrunks armorbardock armor
>>495323320Bulma, Vegeta was only away for 48 minutes...
>>495324315Sounds like you have a thing for metal wearing monkeys
>>495323714Dat Yardrat Suit.
>>495322715>game confirmed piss easy even in the hardest difficulty DOOMGODS we feast
Is the Deluxe Edition worth it or should I just get standard?
>>495324621confirmed where?
>>495323714>Goku (Super) with Ultra Instinct Sign and Ultra Instinct has the same exact clothes as every other Goku (Super) except for the Whis giBULLSHIT
>>495325073Too thin, head too big and face skin lighter than the rest of the bodyAlmost looks like a fake
>>495325073Games normally have UI Goku only with the broken BoG gi like the anime, I'm glad they gave him intact clothes AND the Broly/Superhero gi too, even if Whis gi UI is still nowhere to be seen
REMEMBER BEELZEBUB? SPARKING ZERO DOESN'T, HA HA!
>>495321178>>495321352Yes Cell, he was the most perfect character.
whis gi is shit btw
>>495325570>Another fun pick shafteda big shame
GOD I FUCKING LOVE SPARKING! ZERO'S SUPER SAIYAN GOD SUPER SAIYAN
>>495323714PEAK divine performance right here
>>495324736>confirmed where?By some guy that was playing as Blue Vegito against Guldo and Yamcha and complaining the game was too easy
>one of the tracks is Ego above AllIs this another Super manga reference?
>they forgot the blue and yellow swirlhttps://youtu.be/bo3FVxVC_GQ?t=623
>>495326550I highly doubt it, honestly, even with all the references they have added so far
>>495324669Yes it's worth it. The season pass pays for the price increase and you get 3 days early access.I haven't been this excited for a video game since Elden Ring and I haven't gotten a deluxe edition since Halo Reach.
>>495325978>Shintani's Blue>Toyotaro's Blue>Nagayama's Blue>Sparking Zero's BlueFunny how the moment you take this form away from Yamamuro it starts looking good
>>495322715Currently confirmed costumes we know are coming back from BT3 (Ignoring character defaults. Also I'm basing this of their defaults in BT3 because some of them have different defaults now):>Early Goku: "Kaio" symbol Gi, Non-weighted Turtle Gi.>Mid Goku: Yardrat Outfit, Battle Damaged Namek Gi>End Goku: Saiyan Armor>Scouter Vegeta: Early Namek and Late Namek Armors>Kid Gohan: Saiyan Saga without headband and Namek Saga Armor>Teen Gohan: Saiyan Armor>Adult Gohan: Great Saiyaman without headwear (Turns into Bandana variant when transforming)>Piccolo: Weighted Clothing>Piccolo (Fused with Kami): Weighted Clothing>Krillin: Saiyan Saga Gi (New default), Namek Armor and Cell Saga Gi (Old default)>Yamcha: Saiyan Saga haircut (New default), Cell Saga haircut (Old default) and OG Series Bandit Outfit>Tien: Green Gi (Old default) and Shirtless Gi>Chiaotzu: Saiyan Saga outfit (New default)>Roshi: OG Series/DBZ outfit (Old default) and Jackie Chun>Sword Trunks: Without his jacket>Videl: 1st appearance with pigtails>Bardock: OVA Classic Armor (Old default)>Nappa: Without Armor>Recoome: Battle Damaged>Android 18: Late Cell Saga outfit and Majin Buu Saga outfit>Frieza Force Soldier: Alternate design from the Bardock specialCurrently missing outfits:>Early Goku: "Go" Kanji Gi that Mid Goku wears (He wears it in Tree of Might and Lord Slug)>Mid Goku: Symbol-less Gi>End Goku: End of Z Gi>Teen Goku: Classic Outfit (Since his default is now based on DBS Broly) and Original Blue Gi.>Scouter Vegeta: Original Anime Colors>Kid Gohan: Saiyan Saga with headband>Teen Gohan: Bojack Movie Gi>Krillin: Majin Buu Saga outfit >Chiaotzu: 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai outfit (Old default)>Videl: "Fight" T-Shirt>Roshi: World's Strongest Movie Outfit>Bardock: Battle Damaged>King Cold: His old design since he's now based on DBS Broly>Android 17 (Z): GT Trenchcoat >Broly (Z): Second Movie Outfit
60fps locked?
Any interesting gameplay clips from all the new videos?
>>495326706How did the forget the yellow? It was like one of the most important parts
>>495327131Completely new costumes that we know of:>Mid Goku: Saiyan Armor (Used to be End Goku only)>Goku Super: Turtle Gi with no belt, RoF Whis Gi, Super Gi with Power Pole (Ultimate Edition Bonus)>UI Goku: Turtle Gi with no belt>Early Vegeta: Armor with white boots>End Vegeta: Saiyan Armor>Vegeta Super: RoF Whis Gi>Teen Gohan: Demon Gi with Cape>Adult Gohan: ToP/Super Gi and DBS Tracksuit>Ultimate Gohan: DBS Tracksuit>Krillin: Turtle Gi with hair>Tien: Cell Games outfit and Rof/Super Outfit (New default)>Roshi: Rof/Super Outfit (New Default) and Green Hawaiian Shirt>DBS Trunks: Capsule Corp Green Sweater>Bardock DB Minus/Super Battle Armor (New Default)>Android 18: DBS Tracksuit >Toppo: Battle DamagedIgnoring some battle damaged variants for Goku and Vegeta (and a couple others) for the sake of brevityEvery costume prediction I had before is in already, so...Suggest any ideas for potential costumes for DLC (or maybe somehow missing from the store) if you want to but keep it reasonable. I want Postman Piccolo as much as the next guy but let's be real.
Can we please stop calling it Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan
>>495327098God he looks so cool
>>495327098>forgetting Takahashi
>>495326502lol
>>495327153>Korin isn't playable>Not even an accessorylame
>>495327353That’s the name they copyrighted for merchandising so we’re stuck with it forever
>>495327410>>495326706MY KING
>>495326706>forgot the swirl>still have them at this weird angle
Any Yajirobe footage?
>>495327439I'm talking about the color
>>495328151Yeah, the color is so much better for the hair than what it looked like in the anime
>>495326706"Omega Finishing Blow" is so fucking cool, in other games it would be an ultimate on its own
>>495323714I'd trade Armor, Whis Gi and Yardrat costumes for EoZ gi in a heart beat, not even joking.
>>495327691Last time players wanted an old cat mentor to be playable in a fighting game it took that series' last game for him to be inJudging by how successful SZ already is, we're a looong way from Korin making it
>>495328151>>495327439>restricted SS Broly looks closer to how SSB looked in the animelmao
>>495329358good thing they fixed in the broly super movie
>>495329358maybe it's the lighting, would suck if he doesn't have the violet purple whatever highlights
>>495327131never ever right?
This next one's gonna wipe you off the face of the planet!
>>495325812With the most perfect stage too.
>>495329921What do they call this guy?
>Trunks' Episode Battle not only skips the entire android saga, but also covers only around half of his fights from the Black arcSeriously, at this point, why even bother?
>>495330618Do they really not want to repeat fights because of Goku and Vegeta's perspective?
F-frieza Force Soldier?? OF COURSE you can have my Sparking Zero Slot you are obviously the more important character
>>495330618Limited ressources I guess. Likely why Jiren got in instead of someone with more storyI'd also bet they rely heavily on custom battles making up for any slack other single player modes might have
>>495330541THEY CALL HIM THE WHAT?
sparking story mode can't be worse than tenkaichi 3 right
>>495330785Hey, it's convenient to have a literal jobber in the rosterThey probably gave him generic moves and animations, so I doubt he took anyone else's spotUnless you wanted Shin to have that generic moveset instead
>>495330740Even if it was the case, that still doesn't justify skipping his battle with Black in his timeline.>>495330946You know, no one said there need to be 8 perspective characters. If you include someone in such an extremely half-assed way, it just looks bad. I hope they didn't fumble Gohan and Piccolo.
>>495324736https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo3FVxVC_GQThe AI is dogshit + the gameplay is basic as a phone game
>>495331060A BEVERAGE OF SORTS?
>>495331332Hey Paragon, how're those big sweaty men treating you?
It's over, guyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXbGafjG2EANo extra muscles, no spikier hair, no veins, no SSB Grade 2. Final build of the game before release and colors aside, "SSBE" only changes Vegeta's eyes to give him pupils
>>495331113Well, it's already confirmed that we lost the Trunks vs. Imperfect Cell fight in his future. The movie fight are probably going as well. There's not even a stage for the Bardock's last stand. The what-ifs will probably elevate it, but even compared to that one, a lot of stuff will be missing.
>>495331710NO FASHANO ZANGYANO VADOSNO BUY
>>495331197Players would have complained if we didn't get at least the 4 main saiyans 9 Piccolo. Lots of people also wanted FriezaThey could have cut Black and Jiren without backlash, but maybe they wanted to have more uses for all the Super stuff they added to the game
>>495331113From what we have seen, what ifs included, it's far superior. Still way worse than Tenkaichi 2, but way better than Tenkaichi 3.
>>495331113They seem prouder on giving you the tools to makr your own story mode.
>>495331113Even if it has fewer fights, I don't think SZ can lose to BT3 story mode purely through the power of presentation. I don't care how many fights you have if they're just scrolling text and intro/outro one-liners.
>>495331710Good. Honestly I would ditch the highlights on his eyes, but other than that this looks way better than Super Vegeta Blue, Toriyama got rid of that shit for a reason
>>495331842is anyone's purchase really hanging on vados? i'm not sure even the 'GOKU TRAPPED AND BETRAYED IMPREGNATES VADOS 17 TIMES' types care THAT much for her
>>495332343It's quite ridiculous to realize BT2 gives you a more complete Z experience than Kakarot does.
Okay faggots, time to post your mains without posting it.
>>495331842Coomers get the rope
>>495332680If I understood correctly from previous threads, they're just parodying one xenoversefag from youtube who's assblasted about SZ.
>>495332896
>>495332167I'm starting to think it may be losing to Budokai 3 at its own game. Well, maybe what-ifs will save it.
Will afterimage spammers still top the tier list?
>same exact model, even the skin and hair are different instead of being altered to match Z-Gogeta's palette, it's literally just Super-Gogeta with different clothesUnironically wasted slot.>but the moves...Just make it an alternate costume with those moves. Literally the only "loss" would be the different combo string and they could just combine them to get the best of both worlds, PLUS having Z-Gogeta outfit as alt oufit would let us larp as Z-Gogeta (base) and Z-Gogeta (SSB)
>>495333298Had to think twice about this one>>495332896
The camera clips into the ground too much. I hope it's fixed in the day 1 patch
>>495333576A Slotfag rears its ugly head. If you're convinced this character was so cheaply made, then obviously whatever substitute that might exist would have a similar budget, if any substitute even exists. They don't just put down a number and decide "well, this is exactly as much as we're going to do, let's start writing down some names".
>>495333576No.
>>495333419Idk>Yamcha with 3 fights and the last of them made up>Tien with 4 and just as bad since they literally do the Namek Saga narration for the 2 of them...only to completely skip it and do MORE narrating for the Cell Saga>Uub with a story mode of any kind since they have to make up everything beyond the 1st fightEven if Black and Jiren get 5 fight per linear playtrough it's already better because of the presentation.
>>495333710>I hope it's fixed in the day 1 patchDon't get expect too much, I'm hoping for a week 6 patch>>495333773Damn it Anon, you made me laugh
>>495333853I assume all slotfags are smashfags which means retards so I just ignore those kinda posts
>>495333576if they were a costume of each other the game would've had 181 slots instead of 182and i'm pretty sure he has his slot cause of the halo
is this the end of xenoverse? Do we even have any CACs that are part of it anymore here?
>>495334776Most likely. I'm only playing it to tide me over until SZ
>>495326706How did they miss this? WTF
>>495334761Multiple characters can put halos on and off.
>>495333576They didn't even bother to lighten his skin?
>2 copy and paste Gogetas >3 Cabbas>Endless Goku'sThis roster could have been tweaked more but I'm happy
>>495336225>>Endless Goku'sThat's literally almost every DB game ever.
Mods to install as soon as they're available>Actual character portraits>Lighter skin for Z Gogeta>Swear words in custom mode
>>495333853They could have been done something cheap but deserving of a separate identity, or just scrap that slot and use that time in polishing other aspects of the game, what the fuck is your argument?
BESTku Blackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33GmekXcAtw
Mods to install as soon as they're availableAlbino Mr. PopoYoung KamiOld DendeKorin BeastMaster Mutaito (Full Power)
>>495336453Not really. Most games have one Goku per transformation at most, with maybe separate GT and OG versions. Aside from the Sparking series, Heroes and gacha, what games have multiple base adult Goku's?
>>495333853>hey don't just put down a number and decide "well, this is exactly as much as we're going to doActually...>182
Mods to install as soon as they're availablePoder ProhibidoCJDoritosRei AyanamiLighting McQueen
>>495337034Imagine the intense debates about whether Gogeta (Z) or Appule should make it for the last slot among the devs...
>>495337034It can't be a coincidence
>>495323714WHERE the fuck is Bojack Gohan???????????
>>495337609Isn't that literally just SS2 Gohan with an orange gi?
>>495329620The movie did so many weird things with the colors
>>495337784And a different haircut
>>495331710You can see the exact frame where the skill disappears for the victory animation. Yup it's literally SSB Vegeta but bluerThe muscles that made Vegeta look even shorter won't be missed
>>495337784I hate the Piccolo Gi on cell games Gohan, anon
>>495336665I want SS Black mod
I played dbsz and i must say the gameplay is not as fluid as bt3.Very clunky and rush combos are very difficult to hit at times.The combos are the same but it just doesnt feel as good.
>>495337609It's Bojack time now.https://x.com/DBSparkingNews/status/1836899256403456488
>>495338132Same, the black, grey and golden palette is great, and the purple energy from base Black would make a good contrast. I hope they mod SS Black into base Black soon so I can use both forms.
>>495338178are you fucking kidding me
>>495338321>What if Gohan jobbed to Bojack and stole Gohan's attacks
>>495338071Speak for yourself, anon. Chi-Chi and I will miss them. Guess it's another game of maining the original Super Vegeta for me...
I'm gonna main him and UI Sign Goku and you can't stop me.
>>495338893I can't believe Minus won...
>>495338893Shoulder pads supremacy.
>>495338893The quality in this game is gonna make playing all 182 characters a fun time.
>>495338893French Bardock is best Bardock
Let's be real, how fucked is Tekken 8 at the game awards when SZ is it's only competition?
>“I shall grant you one wish. Now state your wish.”This motherfucker better give me EoZ Goku's gi
>>495339946Why's this stupid fucking dragon talking backwards?
>>495340268More mystical
>>495340268Peas and Carrots
https://x.com/ReksArts/status/1837150600774946894UI aside, I'm not even gonna play with Goku (Super) with any other costume.
What What-Ifs are you going to make?
>>495340605>Buu arc gi -> Daima gi -> Whis gi -> EoZ giHonestly, this would have been the perfect progression, Daima Goku's clothes are barely different form his classic look, then the Whis gi gets rid of the inner shirt too, almost could pass as a recolored EoZ gi, then Goku finally ditches orange and wears his own colors because he has become a master now and his next step if having his own disciple.
>>495341009I watched the Garlic Jr movie last night and was thinking of making a multiple episode "What if Garlic won and actually raised Gohan as his minion like he wanted", but it will have to wait till Beast drops
>>495339132Bardock's OG costume is still in, and his ultimate starts with that pose he did (the first frame there)
>>495341009What if Android 13 was reprogrammed and sent back in time to save Kid Goku from other Androids being sent back to kill him.
>>495341009The Xenoverse 2 story unexplained change where Yamcha somehow survived the Saibamen but died to Nappa offscreen. If he goes out, he goes out swinging.
>>495341009Broly and Broly fight to marry Kale
Been having a fun time with Revamp
>>495341009What if a saibaman survived, hid, grew stronger and beat all enemies that appeared on Earth>kills Mecha Freeza and Cold >kill Babbidi and Dabura, avoiding Buu entirely >satisfies Beerus, no Champa>kills Black when he randomly appears in the present, avoiding merged Zamasu and thus the ToP and Broly>finally beats Goku and Vegeta who finally found him
>>495341009Broly vs Beerus for Cheelai
>>495341009What if Goku fell in love
Is God Bind in? I don't know why but I really wish xenoverse had that move
>>495343972Yes
>>495341009Z Broly mistakes Bardock, Turles, and Goku Black for Goku.Dabura hunts angels and gods: Zamasu, Beerus, and Whis.
>>495341009The unseen conflict between Frieza and Cooler from Zarbon's What-if in BT2.What if Trunks and Mai stayed in the 'present', and Trunks participated in the ToP?I'd also like to try my hand at "canonizing" various Movie Villains a la DBS Broly but that'd be quite the endeavor with the game's options I think.Had some other ideas floating around that I can't recall off the top of my head. One not-terribly story heavy idea was just Mr. Satan vs Spopovich, playing from the latter's PoV while I use the game's settings to make Mr. Satan as much of a "boss-tier" character as possible. The wrath of a vengeful father isn't to be underestimated!
What if... the What If mode exists so that they can later take ideas from fans to put into the next game...
>>495344630Not like I was ever going to get paid for my Dragon Ball ideas anyways.
>>495344630I just dont see it being more complicated than your basic dragon ball fight. Even with all the customizations it's just time to fight into fight into shake up event into victory.
pvp seems funwon my first match
>>495344219Wonderous
>>495345726Gohan bros? We lost to Turles and his men...
>>495345726https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXGiIifSVdU
>>495341009Ribrianne's team meets the Ginyu ForceMajin Buu gets led around by Turles trying to get a taste of the Fruit of the Tree of MightSpopovich goes to West City to buy groceries but keeps getting held up
>>495348576I thought this was a cool filter in the battle to make it look more like hell but turns out the guy who recorded it just has a shitty video card
>>495341009Piccolo and God are both sent to Namek and fuse to beat Freeza, but FF Freeza is still too much for them Then Nail appears because he survived his wounds and he assimilates Kamiccolo and beats Freeza
>>495341009What if Vegeta was Trunks' father
>>495323714SHORTHAN
>>495348576Not Hell! That's where Cell is, in a hell!
Mexcrements tongue my anus
>>495341009>What if King Cold was a lot stronger and killed Trunks>What if Cell won
>>495336665My chemical romance looking ass
They should make a DB game with a stance system like Fate Samurai / Like a Dragon / Black Myth Wukong.With UI being the OP 5th unlockable stance like the Void / Dragon of Dojima / Sun Wukong stances in those games.
>>495350195>tfw still no DB musou game
>>495323714i would say EoZ and Buu Saga clothes Blue Vegeta, IF HE WEREN'T EXCLUSIVELY RELEGATED TO THE MEME ARMOR. save me modderman!
>>495331710good. Blue Evolution being a Grade 3 proxy was always fagshit, it should've been a Super Saiyan 2 proxy from the start.
>>495341009I'll do a scenario where Frieza uses the Dragonballs to boost his power like Piccolo, then he begins his true revenge aganist Goku and Vegeta.
>>495350637Vegeta's EoZ clothes will take a while I think, but the rest should be easy to mod and thus fast>jumpsuit Vegeta-Super by copypasting the body of Vegeta-End>EoZ Goku-Super by making slight tweaks at Whis gi Goku's body (with SS4 Goku's foot gear and wrists), then recoloring it
>>495332896i didn't make this to be coy.
>>495333298Who?
>>495350546No vampire survivor-like either.No DAO / KOTOR / Jade Empire-like either.No Super Robot Wars-Like.No tactical RPGs in general.No Zoo simulator.No racing game.Lots of genres DB could go for.
>>495350637>>495351036They better make the first UE mod with the Boo arc clothes and not the armor
>>495334776no. Xenoverse 2's modding scene has a decade long lead, Revamp 5.0 and the Chinese DBL skill ports are better today than they've ever been. not to mention Sparking is exclusively a 1v1 simulator. if you wanna fight more than 1 character at a time, you have to boot Xenoverse up. Sparking might eclipse XV2 in 3-5 years.
Does Gohan SH have enough material for Base, SS, Ultimate and Beast to put in the game?
>>495336525you forgot something to give the beam some girth. the string bean beams this hoe is launching with look pitiful. Final Flash with a diameter or 2ft? kiss my ass.
>>495338321>>495338839they both tried to do that to each other... Gohan is just the one who won...
>>495351653Considering they fleshed out base Black with manga moves and gave UI/MUI Goku manga references too they could even use shit from the Moro arc for Gohan
I hope we have GT Clothes for regular Goku, bonus points if he has the tan.
Incredible roster but how the fuck did they exclude SHIN!?!? He’s in Z and Super heavily! Bizarre exclusion.
>>495341009What if Vegeta took out 2nd form cell, then gets his rematch vs Goku.What if Goku black regrets the zero mortal plan and betrays Zamasu.What if Cooler went to namek to fight freeza too.Maybe that one burst limit scenario with bardock.
>>495352008We already know we don't unless they are a Shenlong wish (unlikely)
>>495343323NOOOOOO XENOVERSE 2 DOESN'T HAVE COMBOS, DELETE THIS!!!>>495343972https://youtu.be/cgBJFoEFLtU?si=wRnXy1qMX-qzURn5
>>495351345>No racing game.That's the saddest part. Imagine how much of a blast Toriyama would have had when asked to design an appropriate car for Goku, Piccolo, Vegeta etc. for a game.
>>495341009Probably do something with Cell, idk what but there has to be something. A fun one-shot could be Goku Black accidentally goes back to Android Saga and gets nuked by A16, maybe even include Cell in the blast radius as a fun joke as Z-Fighter and Android alike are confused (and the androids technically free to not terrorize the world since Goku was technically killed).
>>495352061>What if Vegeta took out 2nd form cell, then gets his rematch vs Goku.I say this one has a decent chance of being in the main story for Vegeta.
>>495352391Fuck, a whole game of Toriyama car designs, that would have been so kino.
>>495352368>XV2 has no combosShut up youtuber, you have no power here, come back when you learn to pick up a controller.>God bind>rush dash that's piss easy to confirm with a stun stateThat's a warcrime! Has to be something to do even if the lack of knockback will make some things not work as you'd like (no Gravity Impact confirms and 5 seconds might be too short to pull out a hefty ult but something like Shocking Death Ball will absolutely confirm).
>>495341009What if Zamasu valued mortals as the creation of the gods that must be protected.What if Zamasu was a woman?What if Zamasu had a hate boner for ningen?What is Zamasu made the zero virgins plan and fucked every man, and all of those men were his husband(me)?What if trunks cheated on Mai for Zamasu?
>>495351328Whis. Same VA in English.
>>495324493it's not metalit's some kind of space polymer
>>495352932I can't help but imagine her lifting someone's chin with her tail and it not being played for erotism
I like Kakarot's combat but I think the two biggest problems are the lack of original attacks between the bosses and the fact that their little surge mode thing ruins combos and basically punishes you for not standing miles away and nuking the enemy with projectiles until it dies. Other than that, I think it's something close to how I'd want Xenoverse to be. Especially the visuals. It proves that a Dragon Ball game can have real time combat without the attacks looking like shit
>>495336824>what games have multiple base adult Goku's?Final Bout has two base Gokus (Adult and kid GT versions), and three SS1 Gokus (Z, GT Adult and GT kid).
>>495341009bojack, slug and turles form a space pirate alliance and search for the space one piece
>>495338893So is the SZ's Bardock using Minus Bardock as a base while Z Bardock is just a costume?
>>495343509Have him kill Cell and spare a Cell Jr to use as a punching bag
>>495352010He's even on the main menu which makes it even more funny that he's not included in the roster
>>495351345I will forever stand by the idea that a Dragon Ball baseball game with wacky character gimmicks and special abilities would be kino of the highest order. Yamcha would be a top-tier draft with his extremely tricky Spirit Ball pitch btw.Pic related is the hidden boss team
>>495354823the only thing surge mode punishes you for us just blindly mashing the melee button without ever dodge cancelling into a block
>>495323714Pigtails Videl, may as well become her default costume for me unless we get the FIGHT shirt later.
Post your Team of 5 you are gonna use Online. God, i hope there's a way to play with whoever i want without needing to worry about the points each character takes
What's a good gaming PC I can get for ~$1000 USD bros?I want to play Sparking Zero this October as close to 60FPS as I can get
>>495356356There must be a casual match mode with no DP system.
>>495356356GT gokuDaima GokuKid GokuGotenDaima VegetaAnd I'll call my team The Rats.Sadly three of them are tailless.
>>495356356DP points are only a thing in ranked team battles as far as I know, you can play non-ranked modes with whatever is my understanding
I wonder if Satan still costs only one DP. Would be funny if he's in a bunch of teams just because the players only had one point to spend and they decided to include him.
what ever happened to the healthbar hit effects, they made the game feel more polished
>>495355510Oh, that and a football game would both be fun.
>>495356960>What's a good gaming PC I can get for ~$1000 USD bros?I have an Asus Rog Strix 3060 laptop and they are just barely under the 1000 US mark
>Multiple people already playing the game>No Opening leakHuh..........this game has an animated Opening, right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kdOxt4dE9Q&t=1s
>>495323714>SSG Goku with Whis' giCool, you can make a manga fight against Hit referencing that version of the U6 tournament arc
>>495357635it doesn't, if it did we'd of seen it by now. xenoverse 2's opening was one of the first things leaked when that game came out, breakers, kakarot and fighterz didn't have openings either that era in gaming is over dude
>Hit's rush attacks aren't normal rushes, they're basically teleportsHoly shit Hit is broken as hell
>a character only needs to teleport to be brokenterrible game lmaokinoverse wins again
You can choose other characters to be tournament announcers. So far we only know a few due to the Japanese equivalent to alphabetical order:>Aku (?)>Akkman (aka Devilman Spike)>Anato>Anilaza>Appule>Arak>Awamo>AnninThere's two other names, but the blurriness is making it hard to read. I have heard that Iwen is also on the list, though.
>>495358925>>AnatoWait the Universe 1 Supreme Kai?>AnilazaHe can't even talk>AwamoHe's the Universe 1 angel and has never talked before.
>>495359239SZbros...say it ain't so...
>>495359397I don't understand it either, but they're on that list.
>>495358925pretty sure this is a list of words to use in Custom Battle in some fashion, not tournament announcers.
>>495358925>AnninWtf, that one dude here who cares about her will be happy
>>495357632What can you run with it?
>>495359616You're right, it does look like the custom battle menu, but the list is titled "Speakers" for some reason.
OH SHIT, that's not "Aku", it's fucking AKA.
>>495356356I think I may have too many saiyans, may swap out Turles/Raditz for Kamicolo/Cooler from time to time
I don't know if this site is 100% accurate (palworld having higher requirements than Wukong sounds iffy) but you can get an idea
>>495360723Meant for >>495359772
>>495360723What's this site you're using?
>>495360869Can You Run it
>>495356356>Jackie Chun>Yamcha>Kamiccolo>Majuub>Dyspo
https://youtu.be/p98-L54aoA0?t=948I thought it was weird Kale's SS1 came after her Berserk form when logically it should've been before and wondered if she couldn't go from one transformation to the next, and this confirms it. Above the movesets there are pictures of the forms a character can access, and while base Kale can transform into both SS1 and Berserk, Berserk Kale can't go back to either base or SS1, and SS1 Kale can't go Berserk either.
>>495362736ah so it's like super vegeta and ss2 vegeta in RB2. that makes sense
>>495362736Just sounds like using all base form characters is the way to go
>>495362970For DP battle sure, though this may have a BT2/BT3 situation where some characters power down when transforming.It's also annoying that this version people are playing has DP battle modes, and no one is showing the DP of each character.
I want to see Pan's DP!
>>495363710NOW????
>>495364049I need to know how big of a team she can handle!
The Custom Battle difficulty is absolutely not a pushover.Check this out. He's getting bitched badly.https://youtu.be/bo3FVxVC_GQ?t=814
BEAT IT, PUNK
>>495364645Why are Chiaotzu’s movements so stiff when he’s not punching and kicking? Does he have arthritis?
>>495364980YOU CAAAAN'T
>>495365249It's referencing pic related.
>>495364980WELCOME TO OBLIVION
>>495365249he's a jiangshi
>>495365249This >>495365440Plus, his stiffness is based on the fact that Jiangshi are notoriously stiff, due to being reanimated corpses.
>>495364645>no hat ChiatzuWas that in 3? I don't remember
Is YOU DO WELL still in?
>>495366580yeah at max clothing damage he lost his hat
>>495331710>its seemingly a permanent buff to certain statsI honestly see nothing wrong with this, as long as we get customization with supers/ultimates (which with the presentation of what-if early gokus not having Kaioken, the chance of that is very likely) it doesnt really remove much
will they allow us to play other people's scenarios? that would be fun.
>>495368378Yes, that's kinda the whole pointthey said it'll be like Mario Maker where the creator has to beat their own scenario before they can upload it to prove they are not impossible
>>495368378You can share them online, yes
>>495368651Can't wait for people who actually understand the game's mechanics making seemingly impossible challenges for the usual button mashers.
I'm the pan cosplayer from 2015.
>>495368987I know from the little I've seen on the super difficulty, it seems it's having the bit of bite that BT3 AI can sometimes give. Very solid defense though they are lacking a bit in technically optimal combos so it'll be nice to get in with a controller.
>>495370213Prove it
>>495352939that's his V2, Gravity Bind V1 lasts longer but has a slightly less flashy animation.
>>4953702131.Who?2. will you be my gf?
UI Goku apparently does the anime's arm thing.
>>495371234punching the air?
>>495370897>>495371205nyo
>>495356356>Caulifla>Kale>Black>Z Broly or Super Broly>SSJ4 Vegeta or Perfect Cellall base form, except Perfect Cell and Vegeta, obviously. you have to earn my second phase. i'm sad Perfect Cell can't transform into Super Perfect Cell.
>>495371234anchor arms or experience tranquility?
>>495371379Nah, the big arms thing.
>>495371678pretty cute
>>495372041>anchor armsThat one.>or experience tranquility?Which one is that? When he has the long range punch clash with Jiren?
>>495358925That's not announcers, it's people who you can set up as being the one talking in cutscenes for the custom battle mode (as in, their name will appear before the line, it's not saying their 3d model will pop up).
time to mod cabba to be super saiyan 5.
>>495359239sparkingbros...
>>495372282the ten-armed slowmo afterimage
that nigga Hyourinjutsu cares more about lore and powerscaling than Toei do. salute to him.
Only 12 stages at launch.https://www.ign.com/articles/dragon-ball-sparking-zero-producer-talks-encylcopedia-mode-what-if-scenarios-and-more
Yeah, Krillin's Android arc outfit in this game is total shit. His undershirt keeps clipping through his Turtle gi. It's immediately noticeable.It didn't have the problem in the previous BT and RB games.
>>495372359It does make me wonder how many NPCs are actually in the game though.>Chi-Chi>Bulma>Pilaf>Shu>Mai>Announcer>Dende>Moori>Shin>Yamu>Pui-Pui>Basil>Lavender>Zeno>Grand Priest
>>495373612It does seem like they want to add more stages in the future though. It wouldn't surprise me if Season 1 came with Red Ribbon HQ and Demon Realm stages.
>>495373648>It didn't have this problem in the previous BT and RB gamesI think that’s because in those games his Android skin was his default. In SZ his default is his Super outfit, so that means his model was made with that skin in mind and his blue undershirt was simply slap-dashed into his gi to make the Android skin, which would explain why it’s not as polished as in previous games.
>>495373612Damn major bummer. Though with how much attention the game's getting, it'll probably get more stages.
>>495373648this seems like a bug where the orange gi just isn't moving as its meant to, might be day 1 patch material, we'll see
I'm seeing Super Dragon Ball Heroes World Mission is at a 90% discount on steam until the 30th. What's that game like? Is it really grindy to advance the story? Do you need to really understand its mechanics to advance? WHat happens after you beat it, is there an NG+? Harder modes too?
>>495356356CabbaCauliflaKalePanGoku (Teen)/Goku (Daima) depending on which is more fun
>>495376892>s it really grindy to advance the story? not at first but it steadily amps up>Do you need to really understand its mechanics to advance? yes>WHat happens after you beat it, is there an NG+? Harder modes too?alternate game modes
>>495377085Bad things happen when you Cabba and Pan meet
>>495377085Why no Goku (GT)?
>>495376892Been a while since I played it, but it's honestly not difficult to learn from what I remember. Decently sized story mode, arcade missions included, as well as a mode for custom missions and custom cards.
>>495377254>not at first but it steadily amps upIs it gacha levels?>yesIs it the "Easy to learn, hard to master" type?
>>495377359I want bad things to happen though>>495377392I have a Power Pole bias
>>495373612Pretty evasive answer for what should be an easy "No".
I once beat a guy playing as ribrianne in xv2 pvp and shouted out "YOU GAVE LOVE...A BAD NAME!" in my mic as I killed her with Nappa's Giant Storm
>>495377653
>>495377536Interviewer probably gave him an idea for DLC, though.
>>495377536Do you really think Gokule isn’t getting in, what are you delusional?
>>495372615Caring about powerscailing is retarded and 90% of the reasonings and 'lore' in his videos are illogical and literal fanfiction.
>>495377536Cellin bros, we have a shot
>>495372615>UI Goku>Several notches below JirenNah.
>>495377812>>495377815>>495377906I didn't want to say anythin because even I think I'm being delusional to expect even more characters after the fake-out, but I thought the fact that Gogeta took the "arrow slot" in the bottom row but the other three are still open was weird
>>495376892First, it has a demo my dear friend, I don't know how hard the demo goes but it's there if you wanna give it a spin to see the mechanics. Secondly, sorry for the autism dump when it comes to SDBH as a game, I've spent many hours pouring over their text on google translate.>Game likeCard game that has the impact system I've seen on DBL. It focuses a lot on the strategy side with you mostly pressing buttons in timing minigames as the active part of it. Something to note, the era is SH1-UM2, this means that Evil A21 cards, Cumber, SSBKK Vegito, SSBE Vegito, SS4LB (Xeno)s, etc. are not in here. It does have SSB Gogeta (BR) and Wrath Broly (DBS), there is a SS4 Vegito (Xeno) card but it's the single worst SS4 Vegito (Xeno) card at the time and his main benefit is that you can make custom cards that are better than him.>GrindyNot unless you want to make really good decks and/or play online (your HA is a girthy grind wall), it is a gacha but the card grind is extraordinarily fair and there's zero microtransaction cancer.>DifficultSort of just growing pains after learning its systems? Easy enough to wrap your head I think but I also have experience with cardboard crack and admittedly the main cards in the game are stingy on certain, very important things that you'll want in any deck that isn't otk'ing. If you need help on making decks, what cards to get (hint, always single pull) to help give you a foundation to try your own thing, etc. I am lurking 99% of the time and can give you pointers.>NG+Alt modes mainly rather than a hard mode but you could try looking at custom missions to see what others have created, if you have a creative spirit could also be where you make alt decks/cards/etc.
>>495378648Might continue to expand the grid when they do trailers for DLC. It'd be neat to see it get bigger over the seasons.
>>495377536as jam packed as the roster is, i would be extremely surprised if any one-off characters like Tiencha or Super Buu (Vegeta Absorbed) showed up. it would be pretty cool if you could unlock SSJ3 Broly by defeating an old school SNK final boss tier difficult What-If Scenario though.
which character is gonna shit their diaper while powering up as a gag in Daima?
>>495379078Maybe, if it's 4 slots on each side, 3 on each corner, and the one at the top that would make 21 slots, just right for the first season pass. Only thing is that Goku (mini) would be left out.
>>495380523>which character is gonna shit their diaper while powering up as a gag in Daima?Veku
>>495380643Gogetafags would NEVER recover. the first person to wonder if both their diapers would be shit when they defused is getting executed.
>No trunks vs imperfect cellWhere the fuck am I gonna get the dragon balls this time then
>>495381149piccolo vs imperfect cell
>>495378741>demoDamn I checked its steam page and somehow I didn't notice the demo.>Not unless you want to make really good decks and/or play online (your HA is a girthy grind wall), it is a gacha but the card grind is extraordinarily fair and there's zero microtransaction cancer.I'm not interested in online play, at least right now, I just don't want this game to be like Yu-Gi-Oh Forbidden Memories where you have to find one specific battle to keep grinding over and over to stand a chance in even beating the game.>but I also have experience with cardboard crack and admittedly the main cards in the game are stingy on certain, very important things that you'll want in any deck that isn't otk'ing.What's otk'ing?>hint, always single pullDoes the game offer multiple or single drops and "single pull" is the more beneficial one?
>>495381721>otk'ingOne Turn Killing
Sparking Zero reuses animations from Jump Force.https://x.com/MOKET_THE_LUFFY/status/1837291698247852070
>>495382936Makes sense, Jiren’s ultimately a Naruto character so why wouldn’t he use their animations?
>>495382936It's over bros
>>495381721>Not interested in online play...Then there really isn't a grind wall unless you want to use your HA in decks (want levels to get some extra stats before ranking up with Super Dragon Balls for extra abilities and this can get a bit of a grind, thankfully this grind also helps with a few other things so it's not like you have 5 grinds to tend to but 2-3 at most).>Don't want to be like Forbidden MemoriesThis game is not like that insofar you get familiar with the mechanics and recognize what's really valuable, can't remember any super complex decks you can't brute force through, and for aggro decks there's a couple of late game missions that could catch you off guard. You can get a few cheap-ish custom accessories from the shop to really power up your deck to clean OTK/risky FTK if you're willing to read a lot, regardless of cards.>OTKOne-Turn Kill, having enough burst damage that all that matters is you get to go first for a turn. For reference "FTK" refers to First-Turn Kill.>offer multiple/single dropsSo you will get tickets in batches and can roll the sets in batches if you're fine with less loading but single pulls have amazing dupe protection (1% chance of a dupe or something really small from my experience).
>>495382936>Naruto>not Kenshiro or anyone else that actually has a straight blasthuhI guess they just happen to be the same height or something
do we know if pc will have ultra wide support for sparking 0?
>>495383370I'm playing the demo and the game had me choose an avatar, does it matter much which one I pick? I chose the Kaioshin one.
Why do black people like Tapion so much?
>>495384714he's cool and funny
I hate how shiny Super Janemba looks
>>495384846Janemba is hanging out with his cousin too much.
>>495384635Yes, each one do have their own sets of abilities that's most relegated to getting to the high ranks + levels (there's 5 rank ups, each needing a set of super dragon balls, and it's advised you get about 40-60 levels before each rank up to help bloat your stats). But all of them can be plenty strong for story and have strong decks to work with, with Kai as maybe the most splashable one, but with HAs they really shine when you get them to max rank (to think in terms of monkey, these ranks are your SS forms, ranking up from SS1 to SSB).
>>495385841I see. Well I'll mess around with the demo some more. If I find the game enjoyable enough I'll buy it.I'm wondering now though, what will happen with DBH's stuff now that the usual story is gone. Will they release the game on Steam little by little? Will Xenoverse adapt some stuff from it like Hearts/Aeos/Ozotto? It would be a waste if they never return...
>>495386858>what about SDBHThe best hope we have is if we get WM2 as a final cash grab of the audience once Super Divers gets a player base, maybe a 15th anniversary thing or something. Goes from H1-MM6 and I say goodbye to sleep. And I do think this has a non-zero chance of happening, people were upset about SDBH closing from what I could gather but Super Divers is building up hype? If nothing else there is a SDBH mode for the game. >XV2 and friendsI think there's some weird and bullshit internal embargo where SDBH will just never be in anything but SDBH. XV2's the best shot but they have not shown any form of ambition in 6 years so I doubt they'll have any now.
>>495387537>but Super Divers is building up hype?Did Super Divers get a story now? I keep hearing nothing has happened still.>XV2's the best shot but they have not shown any form of ambition in 6 years so I doubt they'll have any now.Maybe they didn't to keep the products separated, so Xenoverse is more CaC focused with basic stories while DBH goes wild with demon realm and transformations, but with DBH gone they may bring some more DBH elements to Xenoverse.I don't expect a lot of them though, like I doubt Towa will get all of those transformations (She has like four of them I think), but who knows, if Mira's fusion with Towa happened in DBH first and Xenoverse adapted it, it's not impossible for some elements from it to be adapted, but again, I don't expect it to be a lot even if some elements are brought over.
>>495388216Superdivers isn't out yet
>>495388795I keep confusing super divers with hell divers...that'd be a interesting game, you're a frieza soldier sent to kill the native inhabitants and conquer it...hmm....
>>495388876Shit, that sounds fun as hell
>>495379274>Dr. Gero got to slam this and had a chad son with herI can forget what he did to 17 & 18, I can forgive how evil his lab made Cell, I can even forgive how he stabbed YamchaBut I'll never forgive him for this
>>495389239Reminder that according to Super Hero, Gero had two sons and one of them is Hedo's father. So Gero plapped Vomi's ass at least twice.
Roshi's Max Power Kamehameha is kino
>>495382936>running is in>but its from freaking JUMP FORCEMONKEY'S PAWWHY NOT ZENKAI BATTLE ROYALE OR J-STARS THAT HAD COMPETENT RUNNING ANIMATIONS
>>495389790>WHY NOT ZENKAI BATTLE ROYALE OR J-STARS THAT HAD COMPETENT RUNNING ANIMATIONSThat jump force Naruto run is literally ripped from J-Stars
>>495322715Note is pure!
>>495389657Damn that dirty old man, he had it all but still chose revenge on a kid over everything
>>495389225>tracing Toyo
>>495390002Pan (Xeno) is the best saiyan girlNote a close second
I hope the game lets you remove Slug's helmet in base
>>495390426I like them both!
>>495332809that always happens. Ultimate Ninja 4 Shippuden is a far better crash-course into the Ninja World than the Storm games
>>495390880Pan looks like a prude next to NoteWho thought a short skirt and boob window were good ideas?
>Turles is Goku's cousin>He ate the fruit for the first time on EarthCan't believe both of these are headcanonThe excuse for Turles to look like Goku is absolute trash, glad it will never be true>Low-class warriors only come in a few type
>>495391540horny japanese man. prease understand
>>495391540I do! They're very good ideas!
>>495391778>low-caste saiyans are inbred rednecks even by saiyan standards
>>495391778>Turles is Goku's cousinI like the uncle theory better
>>495359239>Naruto is JirenFUUUUAAAAARKDragon Ball bros is this Nard verse stronger than us-ttebayo?
>>495322715im tired of farming the same broly mission in XV2 for that stupid ult mix z capsule drop, i just need one for that stupid QQ bang craft but the thing just won't drop, im online but im playing the mission on solo because switch servers are no man's land outside those raids and im the only autistic fuck in my area who owns a switch.
>>495392765I'd bet even 22nd Budokai Tien would solo the entire Naruto verseIf Jump force had canon powerlevel DBZ characters would be instant win against literally every other series
>>495392953>If Jump force had canon powerlevel DBZ characters would be instant win against literally every other seriesExcept the Saint Seiya characters
>>495392775Wish I could help you, but I don't have switch online right now
>>495392953everyone jobs to Aizen's illusions making them kill each other while he watches and eats popcorn
>>495392765Dragon Ball, much like Castlevania, has a bullshit Ace up its sleeve. Ki Armor. Anyone who can use Ki, regardless if they train to harden their body or not, can use their Ki to cloak their bodies to shield themselves from harm (including Ki infused fists). Chakra, is not really Ki, but lets say a Chakra blade CAN breach Ki Armor, because that doesn't mean it necessarily will. And "Chakra Armor" which is a VERY rare ability in Naruto, is not comparable to Ki Armor. Krillin, without Ki Armor can be injured, but not killed, by bullets. With Ki Armor he survived attacks from Frieza and his Destructo disk could breach his Armor. Speaking of, Ki Attacks... the first tournament we see, in Dragon Ball, features Ki Attacks that can not be matched in Naruto. Yes, Naruto has a lot of powerful magical techniques that target the soul and the mind. But can you touch a guy who flies faster than your eyes can track, up into the sky, higher than your eyes can see and cracks your planet in half, faster than your mind can register it?"Can X beat this Dragon Ball Character?" is usually answered with: "No, unless you can punch through Ki Armor, which is made out of soul energy and can usually only be pierced by other soul energy"
Struggle all you want, in the end you're still KYEHH
>>495393896chakra is made by mixing together body ki with spirit kiin dragon ball terms you could argue it's like all ninjutsu work like the kikoho, burning up the user's life essence to make up for the lack of raw power
>>495392953>instant winNot against HIM
Can Goku and Vegeta fuse into Gogeta (Z)?
>>495392765no. i think this attack from UNS5 is probably planetary/Nappa level though, if they gave it their all.https://youtu.be/dt6HwxauryU?si=ZWDnnrnylJVecM5a
>>495395780it would not be a clean planet buster, if they were to try. It would slowly shred a planet, rather than vaporize it in Ki "fire"
>>495395681Finally, Beerus has a worthy opponent
>>495396573>Beerus>sub-Jiren jobberlmao
Is it just me or does Sparking Zero looks underwhelming as fuck?
>>495396701The order goes Beerus>Jiren>BelmodJust you wait until Sparking Zero's DP get revealed, Beerus is guaranteed to be a point higher than Jiren
>>495396701>>Beerus>>sub-Jiren jobber…in the jobbing contest.
>>495397120It's Jiren>Belmod>Beerus
>>495397201I can understand Jiren's beautiful alien eyes clouding your judgement, but why the fuck would you defend a clown fraud?
>>495396701>>495397201Beerus is unsurpassed.
>>495397104It's running on a shit engine.
>>495397104Elaborate
>>495397416... in doing nothing competition.
>>495397104It's not just you, but it's a very VERY small percentage of people who enjoy DB games>>495397426I blame the Xbox Series SI mean, just look at the PC specs
>>495373612>no Kami's Lookout>no mountain road>no Kame House>no Tournament of Destroyers stage>no icy stage at all>no HellDoomerGODs, we won.
>>495397531Sleeping and eating are things!
>>495397464Effects look like shit and miss detail.Gameplay looks stiff and clunkyThe speed looks slower than BT3Cant do rush cancels like BT3Dragon Fist can't target Giant characters anymoreGround clipping and weird camera angle during certain moments when fighting on the ground Weird looking explosivesAlso forced dimension break during every beam clashEtc
>>495397704>Broly isn't in the story mode because they couldn't be arsed to make a stage for him>ditto for U6 tournamentKek.
>>495397782People will be back playing DBFZ after 3 months of Sparking release.
>>495397782???They massively upped the game speed and rush supers like Dragon Fist and Tapion's can target Giant characters now.You are slow.
>Play Frieza in fighterz>Just stand arround while my discs do all the work
>rush supers like Dragon Fist and Tapion's can target Giant characters now.he beams look like kid Goku Wrong, watch Rhymes latest video SS3 Goku DF still cannot target giants. Tapion is one of the fee that can.
>>495397782
Looks like KINOVERSE wins once again.Our beloved game will get 10 more years of DLC while SZ dies within 6 months.
>>495398039>teleports behind you>kicks you into your own discs
Gameplay from the ToP characters (Not all of them) Some interesting stuff; Also Toppo and Dyspo's ultimate have a very misleading name.https://youtu.be/LUSfY5K2NIE
>>495397939>>495398189>this level of insecuritySparking Zero really reigns superior.
>>495398369The ground clipping lmfao, they better fix that shit just reposition the camera.
>>495398410>So insecure he has to reply to obvious bait to justify himselfUs LEGENDSKINGS would never act like this.
>>495398306>predict that you would try to do that >block your teleport >2H Get fucked
>>495398532>no uBreakersGOD would never...
>/dbg/ sudden heel turn on Sparking! ZEROI was this was a generational game and that it and Daima would bring about a DB renaissanceDo skinny beams, camera issues and ground clipping negate all of this?
Giving Youtubers the game a whoe fucking month early so they can spoil literally every single fucking detail of the game before it even comes out certainly was a genius marketing move.
>>495398632>IESLBBattle of ZLORDS wouldn't DARE make a mistake like this.
>>495398670>Does a game that look uglier than a PS2 game negate all this?Yes, yes it does. Worst part is when attacks on a mobile game look better.
>>495398765I can't fucking believe that.It's such a fucking shit decision on their part like holy shit.
>can pull Vanishing Z-Counters perfectly>can't even do a Square+Up Z-Counter, not even a single oneGod fucking damnit
>>495398765We can't have a downloadable demo thoughNot even something limited to 12 or so characters and one stage
>xenokeks are pretending SZ isn't the goat now lmao
>>495398997Would expose Bandai for how shit this game really is. That would truly be a disaster class, let people spend their money first.
>>495398793SZ does look like how I remember BT3 to look, but that's a complimentStuff can be both patched and modded, so it's not all doomed to look like this pre-release build
>shit ass story mode>Super difficulty is still braindead easy>nothing else to do than grinding to get new characters, moves and alternative customs >online will be a shitfest with lag Its over
>495399042Didn't take him that long to drop the mask.
Which game has harder CPU opponents, BT3 or Sparking Zero
>>495399516According to Globku SZ has the easiest CPU difficulty out of any BT game.Even during highest difficulty he remarked that the enemy would just stand idle.
>awesome story mode with more to come>cross versus AI is actually good and can easily be modded to be in the rest of the game as well>endless content and different gamemodes>online allows you to show your creativity and big brain plays with its hundreds of skills to combo together and use in different waysKINOVERSEKINGGODLORDCHADS always stay winning
>>495399516Haven't played SZ yet, but I'd bet nothing beats the modded BT4 difficulty
>>495399516BT2 >BT3 >BT1>>>>>>>>>>SZ
it smells like absolute gardens in here
>>495399516>>495399576Is 'Max Computer' in? It'll be brutal if SZ ai really is easier than SMs and there's no bonus Max Computer option.
>>495399702Highest difficulty is called "Super" and is apparently still very easy.This game wants you to play online, reminds me how they made Storm4 piss easy.
>giving kid goku an underneath shirtThey just copied the model of Daima Goku and called it a dayhttps://youtu.be/TWC8ZXgAeWw?feature=sharedLazy ass Devs BT3 would never
That will be 80 dollars plus tip
>>495397782the explosions and stuff are gorgeous, it's just the beams that are underwhelming if you ask me. that and i really wish we had gotten something like the little "Final Flash that can be seen from space" cutscenes or the huge stage destroying beams from... Ultimate Tenkaichi, i think? or was it Battle of Z? or Raging Blast? i can't remember, i haven't played any of those, but i do remember the Ultimates looking gorgeous.i don't think it looks slower than BT at all, either. if anything they've sped it up minus the loss of the micro tech from BT2 that i think you could argue was never meant to be used that way to begin with. we desperately need a menu toggle for the spinning camera during beam clashes though, that shit is genuinely awful. huge agree.
Why are we all turning on Sparking Zero all of a sudden?
>>495399898I fear that without Toriyama around they'll have no incentive to respect OG anymore. All the higherups are all about power levels recolor BS.
>1 Minute apartAlso the no undershirt Goku is already confirmed to be in. There's actually picking apart the game and then there's being an obnoxious faggot who's trying too hard.
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>trusting Bandai in 2024Kek
>>495399615I agree with this Anon >>495400229Chronoa (Goddess form) is for my personal CaC, not some dumb evil demon
>>495400180As with every recent game, eceleb faggots getting premature copies is a mistake. They spoil everything and then when the game is out, the players already know everything and there's little to no excitement.Fuck "review copies" !
>SZ reaches peak hype>contrarian schizophrenics INSTANTLY start spammingkek
The reason I don't care about wheelo is simple: It's just him. None of the rest of his cast, just fucking him. Wheelo on his own is ass. He only ever fought goky and this was a Kaioken fresh goku.I would have taken fucking bio broly over wheelo, hell give me Vegetless Baby before you give me wheelo. I lost Pui Pui for one of the worst movie characters in this series
>>495400229No, he's a good artist.>>495400325>(Goddess form)You have bad taste and are also a pussy.
When is the soundtrack getting leaked?
>>495400387It's great isn't it?That's how you know the game is gonna be good, schizo faggots start being contrarian about it.
>>495399792highest difficulty is CPU lvl 20 on SuperThe stuff you've seen in the story on Super difficulty is not maxed CPU level.
>>495400325>>495400426The bossu belongs to the soon to be canon: Kuu
>>495400387Pay up piggy
Kind of a nitpick but I wish Kale had her hair down when going from Super Saiyan to base or battle damaged instead of the ponytail reappearing
>>495400180OGfags and anti-GTfags are SEETHING
>>495400727turles's hair deflating like that is like when an anime character is sad and their ahoge drops down
>>495400816He's like Franky from One Piece but instead of Cola it's when he runs out of Fruit.
>>495400426But it's wrong! Boss is for to- TRUNKS
Most of the qualms about SZ can be easily fixed if they're even a thingSmall beams on the other hand is a real issue, did they do it for balance purpose?
>>495400908>did they do it for balance purpose?Every beam in the game tracks you that's the main reason why they did it.Some beams in BT3 were not beams but like massive spread out plasma blast
>>495400325>>495400541>>495400906Damn, apparently Chronoa is just for everyone.
I'm tired of everyone reuploading that italian video about "all costumes an accesories" it's not even true, not because of hidden costume we don't know, but because whoever recorded forgot to check Frieza Soldier's second costume that we know it's back because of the store.
>>495400980A lot of it is also just the effects in BT2 especially making the beams look way bigger than they actually were.Many of the beams actually seem to be the same size as original BT, but the effects on something like SSJ4 Goku Kamehameha x10 in BT2 makes it look way bigger.In BT3 Kamehameha x10 looks way smaller than in BT2 because they changed the effects, it looks more visible, whereas in BT2 there's a lot of blinding bright light effects around it that makes it look way bigger.These kinds of effects are not replicated in SZ, so they look smaller.For the most part that is.
>>495401195For example, base Broly's beam in original BT is actually basically identical in size to SZ.It's the beams in the ultimates were they go crazy with the size in SZ because it's cinematic and not a part of the clash system or beam deflect systems too.
>>495400180Just some bait for the bants, watch this one:S0 proves Jump Force would have been successful if it had a proper art style
>>495400908BT beams had some pretty jank hitboxes, clipping you from all over the shop. and with international online play that'd be even worsethat said people are definitely miseremebering the size of regular kamehamehas compared to super kamehamehas in the source materialnot to mention the game is native widescreen compared to BT3 so the kamehamehas look smaller since they take up less of it
>>495401709that's 100% true thoughwell 90%. the jank animations in story mode are another matter
all i'm saying, not liking this too makes you gay
>>495400513>high difficulty levels are betrayed and trapped in Custom BattleTo what end?
>>495401709I still don't understand what the thought process behind Jump Force's art direction was>let's go hyper realisticHuh? It's a game about cartoon characters
>>495402239i can only assume they wanted it to look like figmas literally come to life
>>495400980I hope not all beam tracks, we need variety in how beam acts>>495401195I had to check some footage, and it looks like you're righthttps://youtu.be/OCnlbgkZVE4?t=121I could have sworn the beams were massive, but they only looked that way when you send them thanks to all the effectsSuper Gogeta's BB Kamehameha looks like a Kid Goku beam on the receiving end
>>495401593It's not cheating if she kisses another woman>>495401865Top 3 most breedable DB character
>>495403007>we need variety in how beam actsXenoverse 2 has all the beam variety you could ask for, it's not too late to join the winning team, Anon.
I'm amazed at how fast the internet has turned against Sparking Zero, well not that amazed, it really seems like games in the modern day experience a lot of positive press leading up to release then as soon as actual people get a hold of them positivity drops, ecelebs who once hyped it start trashing it and bandwagners hop on and go harder than they do so by official release all that goodwill is gone and the game flops.
>>495400187>All the higherups are all about power levels recolor BS.Toriyama was the one pushing recolors. You'll probably see much more unique designs in future works without him. Just look at how Toei/Bandai handle other franchises. Now those "unique" designs might suck though.
>>495403841There is no ecelebs thrashing on the game side from one video saying the AI is the easiest of all BT games, and also saying the story mode AI is crazy strongThe guy who commissions porn of his fanfiic tier OC raping other OCs and has been hating on SZ for months doesn't count, he hasn't even played the game
>>495404117>With Toriyama no longer around to hold people back >Toyotaro can now draw people as buff as he wants again and ship angels with their gods of destruction >Toei can now make up whatever the fuck they want for the lore ignoring Toriyama's stuff and Toyotaro's since the manga seemingly forever never gonna be acknowledged in dragonball animation I shutter in fear and excitement for how plots are gonna be going forward especially for the canon Broly, there's nothing to stop them from canonizing wrath and legendary super saiyan with green hair with Toriyama dead, in the manga it was a title not a form as neither kale nor Broly have the green hair not even when they transform or in Broly's case when he controls his power
>>495404117>Toriyama died before he could give us an official design for Yamoshi>He ends up looking like pre-Tori SSGGrim
>>495404345>Toei*CapCorp
archive of tgs event that shows off gameplay with hololife vtubershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iQJ43PkGMA
>>495401709Gotta admit, the artstyle is the main reason I didn't buy Jump ForceEven J-Stars Victory Vs+ which had way worse gameplay didn't receive as much hate
>>495402239the whole game was about "anime characters are in OUR WORLD", of course they had to make it realistic. I think it looked cool anyway, as the other anon said main issue was animations and it generally feeling like a cheap game
has anyone with an early copy of the game clarified if the power pole costume for DBS goku can be unlocked in-game on the vanilla version?You'd think by now someone would have checked what all the shenron wishes are
>>495404706Cute anime girls and Dragon Ball games is the best pairingSeems like they use destruction points for this>SS2 Gohan costs 7 DP>SS3 Gotenks costs 8 DPToo bad we can't see the costs on screen, have to rely on the casters telling us
>>495399792>This game wants you to play onlineThat's a legitimate worry but only true if they had microtransactions that you can show off onlineWe'll have to see if future updates include paid costumes and cosmetic effects
>>495405021it's referred to as the "ultimate upgrade pack" so I reckon it'll 100% be day 1 dlcthere's also a disclaimer on all the listings that says "pre-order bonus may be sold at a later date without prior notice"
Hey, can tails grow back? I only ask because I suddenly remembered that Kami cut off Goku's tail then used magic so it would never regrow, they didn't do the same for Gohan tho, I think he lost his tail when Vegeta cut it off and it never grew back, Vegeta's tail never grew back after Yajirobe cut it off either, his excuse being that he'd grown so strong he no longer needs it and he hated the great ape transformation anyway. Meanwhile they mention cutting off Trunks's tail when he was born but no mention was made of doing the same to Goten when he was born or for Bra or Pan yet Tarbel still has his tail and Broly's tail was cut off by Paragus.All cases where once the tail was gone it was gone for good without any need for magic like Goku and Kami, yet when Bardock gets his tail severed by Gas it regrows by the time he returns to Planet Vegeta and for him to take part in the invasion and genocide of Planet Cereal's villains
>>495405397i mean that's totally just there so they can put base daima goku in the daima pack too without anyone complaining
>>495404706All the following cost 7 DP>Base Vegito>Full power Freeza>Perfect Cell>Metal Cooler>SS Broly (Super, I assume)Looks like 10 might still be the limit, they shifted down quite a few characters
>>495405672Basically, yes a Saiyan's tail can grow back, but only when they're a child.Once they're old enough (not exactly clear how old that is, but it seems to be around 5-10 years old and might be different depending on the individual saiyan) the tail stops growing back.
>>495405672Oh, speaking of that, Goten and Trunks were not born with tails and neither was Pan.Half-Saiyans are only sometimes born with tails, and quarter saiyans are never born with tails.
>>495405672there's a sidequest in kakarot where Gohan asks Vegeta about that, and while Vegeta doesn't care to give a proper answer, Gohan concludes that the saiyan tail stops growing back once the saiyan is strong enough that they no longer need to rely on it.My own headcanon is that it's specifically once you've cross the threshold that you /could/ go super saiyan that causes the tail to stop growing back, even if you haven't figured out how to actually go super saiyan. in the case of goten and pan, they were born without tails because they already met that arbitrary power threshold while in the womb
>>495406115Bullshit, Vegeta was convinced his tail would grow back after the Saiyan arc. Goku also had his tail regrow between 13 and 16 (later retconned to 15 and 18 respectively).
>>495406115Paragus spoke of continuing to cut off Broly's tail as though he never stopped regrowing it
>>495406415Broly is basically a mutant though
>>495405857>>495405038All the other DP revealed in the streamVidel 2 DPPan 3 DPTapion 4 DPBase Vegeta (end) 5 DPCooler 6 DPBeerus 10 DPThey mentioned something about N°1 and the strongest when Beerus was picked.
>>495407043My guess is that the only characters that will be 10s are Max UI, Omega Shenron, fusions, Beerus and max Broly(s)
Are the Dragon Quest protagonists comparable to Dragon Ball characters in terms of power?
>>495407826Yes eight can defeat eighter
>>495407776Whis too, maybe FP Jiren as wellI'd bet on Brolys and Omega Shenron costing 9 like in BT3>>495407826Only played DQ 1 and I'd say that protag was probably about as strong as Kid Goku was when he defeated Demon King Piccolo>Big powerful magic>Also physically very strong>Defeated a demon king of his own>Strongest in the world by the time you finish the game
Every non Sayian villain Toriyama came up with was fucking bald.It was getting ridiculous
>>495412228Nah bro, even if we discount OG DB there is still>Zarbon, Recoome and Jeice>Gero, 16, 17, & 18 >Zamasu>U2 girls and Trio de Danger
>>495412806>>Zarbon, Recoome and Jeice>>Gero, 16, 17, & 18>>Zamasu>>U2 girls and Trio de DangerAll side villains and Zamasu who ended up being Goku
>>495412917What can I say then?Bald headed bastards make great villains
>>495412228Aliens, perfect beings, and magical monsters dont need something as primitive as hair
Reddit is coping that the shit e-celebs were fed is not the final build kek.
Will Alt Colors make a return to Sparking Zero for mirror matches? I liked Gogeta's and all of Buu's alts
>>495397782>The speed looks slower than BT3????https://youtu.be/4YGHVTywPys?t=220
meh kale is fucking boringhttps://youtu.be/LUSfY5K2NIE
>>495413813Gyaru SS4 Gogeta has to be in
>>495414747YOU'RE BORING, KALE IS CUTE AND THE BEST
>>495414747Please reconsiderKale is a good girl, trying her best
>>495413226One of the bigger Youtube channel said this is the same build that rating boards gotWhich means that it has all the content but could be a few weeks if not months old alreadyLaunch version should be more polished, and further updates will fix the bugs
>>495414747Not a single move from the manga damn
>>495416524did jiren or hit even have any unique manga moves?
>>495374927Cabba does NOT have it like that.
>The same guy mistakenly said Tao Pai Pai is in is likely the guy who approved ecelebs getting the game earlyBandai should let their Japan branch handle the marketing
>>495417486but then we wouldn't get thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOkd6pXHtYY
>>495417576>Toonami nostalgia trailer>no Linda Young as Frieza>not just focusing on Z-CharactersThey tried
>>495417486Tao Pai Pai is DLC.
>>495419156>Season 1 is SH + a bit of Daima>Season 2 is the rest of Daima & rounding out GTSee you late 2025 for the OG DLC then
>>495419156>>495419276>Season 1 is SH>Season 2 is Daima>Everything going forward is Super HeroesEnough with the oh gee tears, it's fucking over. Accept it. No one wants To Gay Gay or Pedo Chi Chi
>>495419654What about mommy Chi Chi tho?She's got it going on
>>495419760egg
>>495417486Tao Pai Pai was one of the bigger fuck ups, but ecelebs are creating the buzz as desired. Just because we may dislike these annoying cunts doesn't mean they don't have a lot of worshippers.
>>495420316Goten would have killed Buu then and there if Piccolo let him btw.
>>495420316Darkest day in DB historyWorse than when Videl ruined her hair or Bulma ditched Yamcha
>>495420329I'm not sure why there's so much contrarianism/negativity today. Did the e-celebs reveal something wrong with the game that wasn't already apparent from gameplay we've seen?
>>495420659nah that was when chi-chi got rid of the bangssecond worst was when that became her default look for super
>>495420775it's just the local bridge troll trying a new angle
>>495416667Hit had Time Lag which would later be copied into God Bind
>>495420775Nah, it's primarily just the local xenoversefag sperging out more than usual. Though the limited stage and outfit selection annoyed a lot of people.
>>495420991I thought he did that in the anime too
>>495416524As I said, manga Kale has a badass speedster personality behind her poor little sis facade, her moves wouldn't fit kawaii uugu failure anime Kale
>>495421075No, anime Hit learned to stop time better for a single target (Time Cage), manga Hit learned to infuse his energy into the target to slow him down even if he can't stop time against him (Time Lag)Basically two different techniques to supply his Time Skip weakness of not being able to fully stop someone stronger than him
>>495420775Literally no one is dooming except some spergs who wanted the game to fail from the start cause they don't have a job I guess.Only real things people are complaining about are the 12 stages and local being Time Chamber only but it still looks phenomenal so most are letting it slide
since there are costumes that change the supers, are there any super that you want to see on released or in the future?
>>495420917>>495421008Both these assumptions are false. Here is why I'm mad>Have to avoid spoilers for 3 week straights>The people already on board for SZ don't gain much by having the full game revealed early>The people on the fence are now exposed to an unfinished build and judging the game on it>The people shittalking the game get free ammoThere are better ways to enlist ecelebs to promote the game than just giving them the full game and have them try to show off as much of it as possibleImagine if they did something creative and entertaining with the game instead
>>49542077512 staged is beyond a deal breaker for a lot of peooleNobody wants to suck off an obvious rush slop of shit not to mention they will most likely add stages but as dlc.
>>495422298My man it's Dragon Ball. There's nothing to leak. We know the whole story already. We know all the characters. This just sounds like you want to be a doomer and can't find a good reason for it
Reminder that if you notice any signs of cute gang reforming, you have a moral obligation to put them in their place.
>>495422512>Experiencing the menu for the first time>Experiencing characters' supers and ultimate for the first timeI could go on
Why do retards keep replying to this fucking shitposter.
>>495422626NTA but you may have autism
>>495422626Autism overload. Have you tried maybe not watching any YouTube videos, spergie?
https://in.ign.com/dragon-ball-sparking-zero/215574/interview/dragon-ball-sparking-zero-producer-talks-encyclopedia-mode-what-if-scenarios-and-moreThey basically confirmed the reason manga-only characters aren't in yet is because legal shit. I guess the poses and moves for the manga is as far they can go now.
>>495422232>Finger Guns and copy Yachiaina Fist for SSG Goku>Hexablade Kienzan for SSB Goku>Spirit Bomb Absorb>Monkey-Ken/Crazy Fist rush combo for Kid Goku>the remotely activated kamehameha for Goku Mid>Janken for Ultra Instinct Goku
>>495422846>>495422932Alright, my badI'll control my autism
>>495423015He just said "can't talk about it" which was his answer to half the questions across the interviews. If you asked him about more, say, GT characters being added in the future, he'd say the same thing.
>>495422298idgaf why you're mad. you're trying to make other people mad just because you're mad. troll behavior.
>>495423357He does say it's a complicated situation, rather than just "lol not telling" tho
>>495423015It'll probably take a couple of years before Bamco can use any of those manga characters, and only if Shueisha and CCT come to some sort of agreement.
>>495424773Its always the legal bullshit
>Digital Deluxe Edition: consoomed>Oct 7, 8, and 9: Requested off and approved Are you guys ready for kino? Cause I am
Got a few xv2 questions, any advice on how to speed up skill farming and what's the "best" pve build for a fehuman
>>495425043Idiot corporationsGrrr bratty money grabbers need rape correction
>>495425159>>495425043>>495423015I wonder if forms apply too? Because sure, Granolah, Gas, Moro, Seventhree and Saganbo are CHARACTERS that only exist in the manga, but UE Vegeta and Black Freeza are manga and anime characters even if their forms are manga only. Kinda like how Black and Vegeta can use Black Bind and Gamma Burst Flash from the manga in SZ
>>495423015>didn't ask about Super 17 not being includedI don't even like GT, but seriously?>DLC for OG and GT only in a potential season 2I know this was known, but I still had hope...
>>495425417>how to speed up skill farmingone of the Super Hero dlc pq's drops a super soul that increases drop rates>"best" pve buildfor most PQ's super spirit bomb or similar big ki attack that holds people in place, the I Hope You're Reborn as Someone Good Some Day super soul, and potential unleashed of beastfor story mode, same as above but you want the Hmm hmmm hmmm super soul, fruit of the tree of might, and one of the two ginyu force evasive skillsfor EQ's you want the same as above, but also bring destructo disc and buu's innocence bullet, and the soul punisher ult which instantly repels raid ki balls also for PQ's that involve keeping an NPC alive/above 50% hp, you need the Energy Zone ult which can heal them, and for your assists bring two Zamasu or else make two CaC's that both have a preset with the I Do Love Being Immortal super soul, energy zone, and stuff that forces the enemies to lock onto them like The Champ Is Here and that one Gotenks super I forget the name of
>>495423015The fact that Xenoverse (or Heroes, which is fanfiction galore) never included those characters/forms should have been enough to tell you it was never going to make it to SZ.Seriously, why do people still need to cope with this shit after all this time?
I can imagine gohan beast with kale's hair
>>495414747Kefla's Gigantic Claw is pretty coolWeird that they gave Kefla both SSJ and SSJ2 but only stuck Caulifla with SSJ2
>>495426407In Heroes' case they never went past ToP, so DBS Broly and Super Hero content were missing there as well IIRC
>>495425931Considering games like Xenoverse and Sparking usually count forms as separate characters, then yeah, it'll be a while before we see Ultra Ego and Black Frieza.
>>495392775Ultimate mix capsules don’t drop in solo play, unless they changed that, you get them from that multi mission mode, the one where each player picks a mission and then their all chained together.
>>495426661it's just cause Kefla has a clear shift in moves. in SS1 she just tosses around basic green ki attacks but in SS2 she starts using red ones and doing more advanced techniques with them.Caulifla just does red balls and red beams in both
>>495426713What are you talking about?
>>495426713Bruh... it's fucking HEROES!!!!
>>495426713>>495427736>>495427945Yep, as you can see if Heroes never got it, there is no chance any other game gets it. I'm not saying this as if I got inside knowledge, but logically speaking, Heroes has everything from Dragon Ball ever, afaik, so if it never made it there, do not expect anywhere else.
>>495427157That's a game mechanic thing, legally speaking Vegeta character is Vegeta character no matter what form he uses, so unless there's a separate thing for forms, pic related still doesn't count as a manga only character
>>495425043Manga characters/forms game embargo, whatever its source, is way older than that conflict. E.g. Black SS has never appeared anywhere and Vegeta SSG only debuted in games after appearing in the Broly movie, despite being a thing in the manga for something like 3 years at that point. Moro also existed since 2019.
>>495428282Oh no, we know manga shit isn't happening, we're just confused why the other anon thought DBS Broly and Superhero characters weren't in Heroes when they clearly are.
>>495428417I actually completely forgot about SS Goku Black, but you are correct, I don't think he ever appeared anywhere.Dokkan is another good example, that game is already rerolling characters for anniversaries and yet it never release manga exclusive forms/characters. I would go as far as saying, bar manga getting animated, unless you see those forms/characters in Dokkan/Heroes, do not expect them to ever come to SZ.
>>495428417Of course, we can't get manga characters until they're animated and fully voiced, but we can't get a DBS anime continuation until Shueisha (manga) and CCT (anime) stop butting heads. Sure, there's the occasional exception like JJBA All Star Battle, but that was an anniversary game (both times), and the moment some of those characters got official voice actors, the old ones got IMMEDIATELY replaced in the remaster.
>>495423015>Gokhan incomingIf true, that's actually fucking hype!
>>495427736>>495427945I'm pretty sure he's talking about the story. DBS BR and DBS SH story does not take part of Heroes plot, DBS stories stopped at the ToP and then we got Big Bang Mission and the next ones as "continuation of the anime" according to the director.But yes even if BR and SH didn't happen in Heroes, they still exists as cards. Heroes is in the same bag as SZ, Dokkan, Legends and other games, they have poses, techniques and references to the manga without straight up adapting it and only with characters that have be seen in both formats, manga and anime (ie pic related was adapted to Heroes, even when they use anime-Zamasu who didn't have the glitched regeneration that made him multiply)
>>495341009What if everyone in the Z universe wanted to rape Android 18 on sight.
>>495359239There's a lot of fucking characters, I'll let them cut corners.
>>495341009What if Cell was a good guy and became part of the cast, even if he died people would actually want to revive him over Frieza.
>>495428937Neither Black SS nor Vegeta SSG would require new voice avtors. And I don't think Dokkan characters need a voice over from what I've seen (never played it though). It's not a matter of technicalities.
>>495428409UE has a name and design that should be a subject to copyright. GBF probably also required a confirmation from Shueisha (though perhaps Bamco can do whatever with it after the first time?).
chances of them ruining sparking zero with updates?
>>495404706>one of the holo vtubers is a DB fanInteresting.
>>495432073how? considering they don't nerf characters like in competitive fighters, what's the worst they can do?
All of this "manga characters can't show up in games" reminds me of Naruto, where Kaguya debuted in Ultimate Ninja 4 about three months before she did in the anime... I remember hearing something about game producers having to pull strings to manage stuff like that.
>>495433205Shaman King had a game, Master of Spirits. It had both manga-only and anime-only spirits you could use, so this stuff definitely can be managed. Heck, Neko Majin actually made it to some games. But no matter what makes it impossible for the DBS manga characters to show up in games, it's very consistent over years. Also, I'd say Iyoku/Shueisha conflict resolution has virtually no chance of altering since either a) Iyoku wins and a bigger rift grows between anime/games and the manga or b) Shueisha wins and we're back to status quo ante.
>e-celebs already have the game I believe this is a misunderstanding, if they had the actual game there would already be an "all special attacks" video and full story mode playtrhoughs. They only got to play it for a couple hours.
>>495399576>>495399702>>495399792https://youtu.be/bo3FVxVC_GQ?si=8oruTi57UeK_sAqQ&t=806Max difficulty is 20 and its way harder than the "super" difficulty
>Great Ape has a model>His moveset is literally just Great Ape Vegeta's but replace Super Galick Gun with something else.>Still not playablehttps://youtu.be/L209Fo_W3_k?t=1992
>>495433205i think the only strings is whether the people in charge want <thing> to have a big moment in <product>. In some cases they don't care, or they care but not to the point they prioritize the anime over the gameplus, is Naruto/Boruto in the same super situation where manga and anime are overall about the same shit but not actual adaptations?
>>495435842I wonder why they reserved higher level difficulties to Custom Battle. It really seems to be screwing the tournaments up for no reason.
>>495425285I've been ready for like 25 days already>Oct 7, 8, and 9: Requested off and approved Being able to take off days for release is great, but the dream is a remote work job and actually being paid to playThe only thing that beats a Tenkaichi match, is a Tenkaichi match on the clock
>>495432340Sometimes I wonder if the recent influx of waifu lovers in Dragon Ball is due to VtubersVtubers get tons of views when they stream Kakarot, how many of those viewers then go on to become fans of the series?
>>495436015Ozaru mod confirmed one week from release
>>495433205Kaguya's case is that it was from the same manga and the anime was already running, just behind on the story. Here we have no idea if when DBS2 gets adapted it will be more new content for anime-only or the manga at last.
>>495436958Considering all the NPCs in the game, we're gonna get a LOT of mods.
>>495436812I think that's a general problem with most manchildren, they want to hold to their favorite kid franchises but also want more sex out of it, instead of just continuing to like it for what they fid when they were 7.
>>495436958>>495437301I believe in modders but don't expect miracles when it comes to how fast things will come outEspecially if the game receives updates which could mess things up>>495437321That'd explain why so many people lust over female saiyans
>>495436812I don't know about that, but I think it's funny.
>>495433205If Heroes and Dokkan can't do it, I doubt SZ can make a difference. I doubt SZ will even come close to match the profits Dokkan and Legends make.
show me local multiplayer gameplay in sparking fucking dev niggers hiding the downgrade
>>495404706A Youtuber is claiming that this was a showcase of how ranked matches work>Random map (?)>15 DP limit>3 characters maximum (?)>Bo1
>>495434832For sure, otherwise you would have more proper footage of UI Goku and Whis concerning their dodges.
>>495434832They are not allowed to show the full story mode.There are certain limits to what they can show imposed on them by Bandai.
>>495438257DB fujos and yumes have been around forever especially Goku x Vegeta. The more recent (~10 years) change is women flocking to fusions.If I had to guess the most popular husbandos nowadays>goku>vegeta>vegito/gogeta>gohan>perfect cell>zamasu/goku black>future trunks>bulma
Other than adding more maps, if you could get ONE feature from XV and give it to SZ, what would it be? It can't be CaCs, that's XV thing only.For me I would let you pick a character and have a custom outfit you can modify in moveset AND colors.
>>495439324Could be Steven Universe who drilled the idea of fusion = sex allegory into a lot of zoomers.
>>495439324>perfect cellWhy are bugfags so fucking deluded...?
>>495439528Anime started the dick touching thing (it's not in the manga) and Vegeta acting like a bitch about it doesn't help the fujo brainrot
>>495439528Other way around, Fujos started it which created Steven Universe.
>>495439567Don't underestimate monsterfuckers.
>>49543681218 was literally the Original Waifu, zoomer.>>495439567Cell is definitely popular amongst Vorefags.
Last Group Stage Match For New Thread Cup for /dbg/ they take on mjg! https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleagueGood Luck fellas!
>>495439952Monsterfuckers like monsters, they would fuck imperfect Cell. Perfect Cell is a joke
Have they said anything about a ranked ladder for sparking?
Perfect Cell, one of the og tumblr sexymen
I want Budokai 1 costumes
>>495440126Monster girls come in many different forms too it's no different from that. A21 is a monster girl.
>>495440471>A21 is a monster girl.Men are su fucking dumb. 21 is no different from a cosplayer. Monsterfuckers fuck MONSTERS, not "pink girl in arabian outfit and a tail"
>>495440358BEAT IT, PUNK
>>495434075>Also, I'd say Iyoku/Shueisha conflict resolution has virtually no chance of altering since either a) Iyoku wins and a bigger rift grows between anime/games and the manga or b) Shueisha wins and we're back to status quo ante.Yeah Shueisha itself would need to change their minds over this.Could also be a case of the whole manga only block being a suggestion and not actually rights issue, which if Iyoku manages to take control of DB he could in theory ignore, but I doubt it'd be that simple, or that he'd do it just like that...>>495436017>is Naruto/Boruto in the same super situation where manga and anime are overall about the same shit but not actual adaptations?I think Boruto's anime stopped at the end of part 1. If so, are part 2's villains being adapted in games? All I know is that Naruto's Baryon mode did show up in one, but that was after the anime.
>>495440113Hope we do better this time
>>495440834>21 is no different from a cosplayer. Monsterfuckers fuck MONSTERS, not "pink girl in arabian outfit and a tail"As someone who finds 21 really hot.I agree with you.
>>495440873HOW RUDE!
>>495440113Good luck!
>>495440834Monster Musume is THE monster girl anime and they're just cute anime girls with some animal traits.
If all the main villains were women their fuckability would rank like this>Daily sex tierScouter VegetaSuper Buu>A few times a week tierPerfect CellRadditz>Once in a while tierFreeza (all forms except 3rd)Majin BuuSemi-perfect Cell>Just once to try tier3rd form FreezaImperfect Cell>Banned tierKid Buu (too retarded to consent)
>>495441378And it is for men. Female monsterfuckers like real monstrous beings.DBZ - 92/182 charactersDBS - 46/182 charactersMovies/Specials - 28/182 charactersGT - 15/182 characters
>>495441545whoops sorry that other part was for a later post about the character distribution in SZ
>>495440834>21 is no different from a cosplayer.She has a tail, don't forget about the tail!
>>495441086>Could also be a case of the whole manga only block being a suggestion and not actually rights issue, which if Iyoku manages to take control of DB he could in theory ignoreLet's distinguish between two things. We don't know for sure who decided on the manga embargo or why; on that fromt, we only have speculation. But that doesn't mean different sections of the franchise don't have different licenses, of course they do. You can't pull any element of any DB manga just because you're doing a DB anime or game, you always have to clear it with the rights owners. So wile Shueisha might not be the one vetoing it, they definitely can veto it.
Our manager is cracking
>>495441378If you want to see what monsterfucker women want, just look to Ancient Magus' Bride. Women that are into that show ain't watching it for Elias' twink human form.>>495441545Garrus is also a good example.
It's so over
Trapped is so useless
>>495443228Garrus gets bonus points for being a total bro. I can't blame any chicks for falling for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV6zub1NEkQ IT'S OUT!!!!!
>Last minute goalI want that shitty mexican meme off the team, it's all his fault.
>>495444549This is your channel, isn't it?
>>495441545>gatekeeping something as niche as monsterfuckersSemi-perfect Cell is easily the least popular one, women would fuck both Imperfect and PerfectBuu is also a monster, all forms.Come to think of it. Why don't they like Beerus?
>>495445026You kidding? Chicks absolutely dig Beerus.
>>495445026Cats are for adopting, not fuckingThat goes for the ToP jobber Hop too
>>495445163>Chicks absolutely dig BeerusHardly see anything of him compared to fusions or even fucking Majin Buu.
>>495440113RIP
>>495445026>>495445163>>495445406Beerus is less monsterfucking and more of a furry thing.
>>495423015From this interview:>So the requirements for uploading a custom battle is that you need to be able to clear it, so you can't just set impossible demands to the players if you can and upload it and be like, "Hey guys, try to clear it." But flip side of that is like, okay, you make a really hard stage, you clear it, and it's kind of a way of showing off to other players like, "Hey guys, check this out. I made this super crazy custom battle. I cleared it. What's up?"Looks like they took inspiration from Mario Maker. I hope they also include the clear rateCan't wait to play a <1% clear rate Freeza battle where you need to defeat all his form as he heals and powerup throughout the fight
>>495445026Anon you don't know what you are talking about so just be quiet. Perfect Cell is a cosplayer with a bug themed armor, no real monsterfucker gives a fuck about him>why don't they like BeerusYou are so fucking dumb
>>495352368>>495352939Sorry in advance if you don't have access to mods but Revamp also has its own version of God Bind which is a little tricky but funny to use. Surprisingly hard to find cheese for it
>>495446346Whoops, meant for >>495343972
>>495446150Perfect Cell is a monster just like 18 (pre-wish) is a monster.
>It doesn't need to have OG DB characters>It doesn't need to have more than 12 maps>It doesn't need to have a Hironobu Kageyama opening>It doesn't need to have rollback net cote>It doesn't need to have Appule>It doesn't need to have Arale>It doesn't need to have dynamics beam clashes>It doesn't need to have character splash arts>It doesn't need to have Beast Gohan>It doesn't need to have a camera that doesn't clip through the floor
>>495447369So it's a bad game?
>>495447369Rollback is a meme.
>>495447901Mediocre would ve a better word for it. It's too rushed and lazy.
>>495447369Shazam 2 was a box office bomb
>>495447369From all that shit you listed I just want OG DB characters and Super 17, then I'm set.
>>495446346You know there are parts of me that does want to return to XV2 but also too lazy to deal with the upkeep angle ("friend" for DLC) and probably go with a fresh mod loadout. While I think the bedrock of S0/BT3 is better than the foundation of XV2, the customization angle adds so god damn much. Would I need Lazybones transformations for Revamp to get some flexibility on forms or did Revamp grandfather it in? Also does Revamp unfuck partners to the point where you can customize their skills to all you've unlocked or will I need to keep moveset swaps on standby?>Blazing ZephyrIs that a Gravity Impact confirm off of so much as a sneeze? Idk if it does more or less damage than Finishing Blow but not needing a knockback would be a huge QoL and extra options is always nice.
>>495448217>It's too rushed and lazy.Neither of those words apply to Sparking ZeroInsane that minor nitpicks turn a great looking game into mediocre somehow
>>495447369
>>495333773THE SPOPO
>>495447369>It doesn't need to have rollback net coteI'm not sure how good rollback would be in a game with constant camera movement like DB... Like isn't rollback better off because cameras in 2D fighters are mostly in just one angle?
>SS3 Gotenks costs more than Z Gogeta in Sparking ZeroGalactic donuts bros, we won... We finally won!
>>49544874012 maps
>>495449790Who's the most expensive? UI Goku?
>>495450054The only legitimate complaint, but still not a deal breaker
>>495450054Unironically don't care about this point, since I will be TRAPPED in the Time Chamber.
>>495449790Proof:>They revealed some characters' DP costs in a livestream earlier today>Videl costs 2 DP, her shop cost is 30k. 15k per DP>SS3 Gotenks is 8 DP and would thus cost 120k>Z Gogeta is shown to cost 105k, thus 7 DP>>495450261They revealed that Beerus costs 10 DPUI Sign only costs 8 tho
>>495450261It might be Beerus according to >>495407043, but there may be other characters who cost 10DP, unless they do it like BT3 and only one character costs 10DP.
>>495450560Lot of assumptions there buddy
>>49545005412 maps that are far more complex, larger, destructible, intricate and dynamic than anything in the original Sparking games.
Beerus doesn't even seem that good from the gameplay we got
>>495450054Mod more maps in, ez.
>>495448217>soft reboot the Budokai Tenkaichi saga after 17 years>in modern times when games take a lot of more effort, time and money>instead of having less characters than Tenkaichi 3, we get 21 more (and other 30 are new instead of updates from previous characters)>and more than one moveset per character>and more tournaments>and story isn't T2 tier at all but it's still better than T3>and there's an infinite mode that is a literal wet dream for millions in the form of the custom battle that is unironically enough for you to reproduce the story modes of previous games and any crazy what if you wanna make, with 5000 lines of text for you to use>"rushed and lazy"Here's your (You), bro.
>>495450753Why would they arbitrarily give characters different shop prices?Shop price being tied to DP cost makes too much sense, and that's the only assumptionEverything else is facts
>>495450560Beerus didn't seem that good. If it was Whis I would understand. UI Goku is 9 perhaps? The fusions might be the same.
I do think that if we bitch loud enough we could get them to rush Kami's Lookout into the game shortly after release since it already has a model. That's the only unforgivable one, same way SSJ4 Gogeta was the face of Tenkaichi Kami's Lookout was THE stage, I still can't believe how it wasn't the very first one they included.
>>495444596understandable. the poll will be posted in time for you erase his existence.
>>495451348I don't want them to rush in Kami's lookout though, I want it to be given the same attention that all the other stages have gotten.If that means waiting longer then that's fine with me if it's going to end up with a better map.
>>49545114512 maps
>>495450914>>495451294Beerus might have some great damage modifiers and overall big numbers to justify his ratingBut yeah, seeing his moves you wouldn't guess he's tied for best in the game>UI Goku is 9 perhaps? The leap from Sign to UI was huge in the anime, I wouldn't be surprised if Sign was 8 and UI jumped to 10 in SZ
>>495451646Custom Missions
>day 1 dlc>most characters play the same (confirmed by multiple videos)Yeah sure this isn't a lazy cashgrab at all KEK
>xenoturd still tryingMan even these guys think the CaC cringefest is gonna get left behind once Sparking Zero drops
>>495451348Kami's Lookout is iconic, but I've seen more people ask for an Arctic map (mostly to recreate DBS Broly's battles)Regardless, I hope we'll get all the following in future updates:>Kami's Lookout>Outer Space (Freeza's spaceship)>Mountain road>Kame House>Glacier or a new Arctic map
>>49545196212 maps....
>100 bucks for 12maps and day 1 dlc>they buy the slop and defend itAnd piggied wonder why modern games are shit.
Remember that most players were still going to buy the game if we only got OG, Z and Super in a 164 character rosterBandai could have milked the hell out of us with endless Movies and GT DLCs, but they let the developers give it their all for this to be the sequel the Tenkaichi series deserves
>>495452291is he actually a xenofag? that'd be hilarious.Tried earlier to say this looks worse than a PS2 game meanwhile xenoverse looks like actual dogshit. It was fine for 2016 I guess.
Is the XV2revamp team gonna mod Sparking Zero too? Because I really want them to deliver more zen UI/frenzy UE kino, specially with how cool the auras look in this game
>>495452563I hope we also get Planet Vegeta (DBS: Broly) and that Frieza Planet from T3Oh yeah and a Tree of Might stage like come oooonnn I don't wanna fight Turles in just a standard wasteland! Same with Broly and Fake Planet Vegeta!
>>495453510Its a miracle that this even happened considering its developed by the Jump Force guys and published by greedy ass Bandai.Really, the only negatives this game has is shitty mocap cutscenes and 12 maps. Shitani's artstyle may also be one depending on your opinion.
>>495454193>It was fine for 2016 I guessI still remember the day I got to play XV and while I was excited as fuck for the character creation, stuff recovered from DBO and such, I perfectly remember how much I hated the graphics, and I also remember being with my gf when XV2 was announced and I got hyped and hoped they fixed the graphics.XV has never looked good. Never.
What are the 12 stages again?
>>495448678>TransformationsRevamp has built in changes for each hairstyle and transformation, but no extra forms that aren't in base game (no SS4). Slightly related, but there's visual upgrades for CACs too. I think Potential Unleashed is currently borked on Humans and Saiyans because it forces your hair to become black though.https://www.revampxv2.com/post/revamp-xv2-patch-notes-5-0-0>PartnersRevamp adds new partners you can use, but sadly there are still arbitrary restrictions on their skills. Videl not having access to Dynamite Kick is still one of the greatest atrocities of our time.>Blazing ZephyrYes.
>>495454427Getting back Fake Planet Vegeta would help with all the fights that happen neither on Earth nor Namek, they definitely should add one>Tree of Might stageWould look awesome but I don't think it's in the cards, unless Daima also makes uses of an absolutely gigantic tree
>>495439381I would get Taino
>>495455689this shit is so embarassing
My HERObe
>>495456062Could be worse
Some japanese guy posted a video with gameplay of the cut BT3 characters, it has 18k views in 16 hours and many of the comments are asking for them to be included in future DLC packs, yes, even Appule.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH0bezTHsBcThis game has incredible potential for some milking even with DLC Packs full of nobodies, people love them at the end of the day.
>>495455468>Wasteland>Rocky Wasteland>Islands>Planet Namek>Dying Planet Namek>Tenkaichi Budokai stage>Kaioshin World>Tournament of Power stage>West City>Ruined City>RoSaT>Cell Games
>>495456889>70% of the comments are people asking for ZangyaDamn...Saiyan girls can't compete with this Hera Clan cutie, Bojack is a faggot.
>>495456889Bringing back the filler Great Apes would be a waste tho. We don't need 5 monkey reskins with the same moveset and the same reused grunts.
>>495458251Waste of what?
>>495458251It would be a costume swap for all of them ffs, I want them back
>>495458340Effort (What little there is). I'll take 1 of the other characters on that list over every filler GA combined.
>>495458581>NOOOOO I DON'T WANT MORE OPTIONS BECAUSE (((reasons)))Kys
>>495458843"Options">Mouth Beam>Mouth Beam Barrage>Giant Rock Throw>Super Explosive Wave>Voiced by: Shane Ray>Can only transform on Noon/Night stages.
Wow japanese fans are vocal about the roster and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way characters were cut and the whole Dragon Ball being shafted. I guess they were holding out hope for a "everyone is here" route. There's even a video that's garnered thousands of views to have the characters come back. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
>>495459102All of that? SOUL, 60% of the characters in the game have a generic rush and a Kamehameha, and being voiced by Kike Schemmel, I'm not seeing you complaining about them...
>>495458251>We don't need 5 monkey reskins with the same moveset and the same reused grunts.Yes we do
>>495458581Starting from one pre-existing Oozaru, it should take way less effort to do a couple more then to make a new character from the ground up. And we already have Vegeta, so it's a matter of adding a few more armors and swapping some supers.
>>495459551This, making your friends mad because you're using a team full of giant, slow ass monkeys to beat the crap out of their Perfect Cells, Super Saiyan 4's and Broly's never gets old.
>>495459551https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844plbHuW84
>>495455689>Transformations:)>no SS4 or SS4LBhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jCAyPai2Y>Partners...., surely still enough for me to work with if they at least expanded on the others or maybe I can see if there's a mod to free this that is Revamp compatible?>siteKeeping on the back pocket, just needs to beat apathy threshold and Sparking Zero hype. A twisted part of me is tempted to restart progress but then Expert Missions, foul shit I don't want to repeat ever again and I'm not seeing hints Revamp did anything to make them not miserable.
>>495459697just recolor of vegeta, literally zero effort they all have the same armor.
>>495453510I would rather have 164 characters and more maps than the shit we got now>>495457001Embarrassing
>>495453510That's why I'm not buying the "w-well, they actually left Super #17 out as a DLC hook" cope. If they wanted to do it, they could have gone all the way, heck, even half the way by covering just the Baby saga. But they only skipped the least popular major villain and one minor antagonist. They definitely do not plan to milk it like this; except maybe OG since they cut off almost everyone.
>>495460116Man I wish I could go back in time and show this to my 11 year old self
>>495461581>Ton of people willing to buy the cut characters, even Appule>They definitely do not plan to milk it like this!Retard
>>495462078If they planned to, they'd have left out more sure-fire sellers. If there's enough demand, I could see them doing a leftover pack or something after couple of years, but I defintely don't buy it being the plan and Super #17 or first form Garlic Jr. being some deliberate exclusions to make people hunger for DLC.
>>495461581>They definitely do not plan to milk it like this>There definitely won't be GT base game characters>There definitely won't be base game Movie characters>Beelzebub is definitely the pre-order bonus I've noticed a trend when to comes to such confidence in regards to Sparking Zero
>>495462695Yeah, there's definitely a trend in people assuming the devs will milk them and then learning they won't. That's why the most logical assumption is that they indeed won't.
>>495462523>If they planned to, they'd have left out more sure-fire sellersPeople would cry even more>but I defintely don't buy it being the plan and Super #17 or first form Garlic Jr. being some deliberate exclusions to make people hunger for DLC.A Legacy Character pack with the missing characters would sell, but Super 17 is the perfect hook for a GT themed Season Pass, people want obscure shit such as Haze Shenron for some reason, the japs even more, they're dick measuring this game against Super Dragon Ball Heroes just because of the roster size.
>>49546291312 maps.....
>>495462926>People would cry even more... and still buy the game.>but Super 17 is the perfect hook for a GT themed Season PassNo, he's not. Omega Shenron would be better, for one. But they put him in the base game. Just like other most popular GT characters.
>>495462926>against SDBH because of roster sizeDon't. Don't give me hope... Is it possible, through meme magics, SS4 Vegito (Xeno)?
>>495390880Fresh saiyan maidens
I don't think I'll be able to play Sparkign Zero physically.There are a lot of explosions of light and flashes and I'll get visually dizzy, it's a shame
>>495463225Isn't Dokkan the only non-Heroes game with Xeno variants of characters? For one reason or the other, they seem unwilling to let the Heroes material infect other stories. Even Xenoverse where they'd be very fitting. I think best case scenario is DBO legacy characters making it.
>>495463212>... and still buy the gameYou sure? the game would sell less, that's a fact, it is the most expensive DB game at launch and cutting more things that could be deemed as "hype" to sell it later through DLC would be seen as scummy in the eyes of many, that would be a hype killer, pair that shit with other hype killing shenanigans this game has such as cutting stages and costumes and it'll pretty much be devastating, the reason people aren't complaining as much as they should is because of the 182 characters with many of them being hype, thus the game is living to the "BT3 Standard" in their minds.>No, he's not.He is, he's a fun character with the Ki absorb gimmick, and he was in BT1 unlike Omega Jobron.>>495463225Pretty big MAYBE, he has better chances than the rest of the Heroes characters because he'll be a perfect counterpart for SSJ4 Gogeta.
I have to agree that leaving Super 17 out of all major GT characters is kinda retarded. I sure as fuck am not planning on buying a "GT pack" just for Super 17, so hopefully they sell him individually.
>>495464089>Pretty big MAYBE, he has better chances than the rest of the Heroes characters because he'll be a perfect counterpart for SSJ4 GogetaI've forgot to say something, he may be in the game, but not as his "XENO" counterpart, but as a "What-If" character which is one of the trademarks of the Dragon Ball games made by Spike, Vegito (GT) SSJ4 could be the perfect What-If character for a hypothetical GT Season Pass
>>495456394MVP
>>495463756Sorry to hear that, anonHopefully they have some sort of setting in the options that tones things down, or perhaps a modder might do something similar
>>495462926Nigga no one cares about normal garlic jr.
>>495464089>You sure?Yes. Especially if they went with the half-way road, giving some GT/movie representation, but still leaving out some hype characters as DLC hooks. And not specifically the least important ones. This looks like "these guys are minor enough to skip" much more than "yeah, let's not include them now to sell them later!".>He is, he's a fun character with the Ki absorb gimmick, and he was in BT1 unlike Omega Jobron.He has his fans, but he's the GT antagonist people care the least about. He's a shitty headliner. "Look, it's Super #17 and bunch of people whose names you don't even remember! It will be $12.99, thank you." Come on.
>>495464947I have to agree here. I mean for OG DB they only put Kid Goku, so they could just as well only put GT Goku and Gogeta and then use the rest to see the DLC, but leaving only Super 17? Like really? Again, it's my opinion, but he ain't carrying any DLC themed pack. Hopefully, he comes on a legacy pack with all other missing character from BT3.
>>495464459>"What-If" character >one of the trademarks of the Dragon Ball games made by Spike>no one in the OG Sparking>bunch of Oozarus in Neo and Meteor>SSJ3 Vegeta and Broly in RB1 (legacied into RB2)>no one in Zero (base roster)?
>>495465482Gokhan if we are lucky.
I want Broku
>>495464947>This looks like "these guys are minor enough to skip" much more than "yeah, let's not include them now to sell them later!"Then why is Babidi in the game and not Super 17? Or why is King Cold in the game if Future Trunks story mode only has the DBS arc?> "Look, it's Super #17 and bunch of people whose names you don't even remember! It will be $12.99, thank you." Come on.And yet people are asking for him, Pilaf Machine, Appule, and the recycled Great Apes, your point being? The only reason they're not shitting on this game as hard as they could is because it has a good gameplay and all of the important hype shit is in the base roster and not DLC>>495465482King Cold and Base GT Uub may as well be What-If because they didn't do shit
>>495465816>Then why is Babidi in the game and not Super 17? Or why is King Cold in the game if Future Trunks story mode only has the DBS arc?Z has the biggest priority in the series and always had. They still cut Appule and Shin/Kibitoshin though, so it didn't escape from the axe completely.>And yet people are asking for himSome fans are, doesn't mean they can make the DLC profitable.
>>495465816>NO ONE WANTS TO PAY FOR THE NOBODIES!>In reality, many are willing to pay for the nobodiesJapanese people want the missing Sparking! Meteor characters even as DLC>Some fans are, doesn't mean they can make the DLC profitableYou think that it is only a small niche of people? Damn, you're severely delusional, maybe take a look at the comments of some trailers to see the reality
>>495466421Holy fuark he got heckin 75 likes!
>>495466421Oops, meant to quote >>495466178>>495466569That's a comment from a video about Sparking Meteor that only has 18k in 16 hours, 90% of the comments in that video are from people that want these nobodies as DLC.>lmao only 75 likesFine, here's one of the comments of the GT trailer, and that's just one of many comments, in many videos, asking for obscure characters while being at the top of the "best comments", cope all you want, people want these nobodies.
>>495467117>top comment is guy making a joke about S17 not being playable>that surely means everyone wants to pay for him
https://x.com/Sephi_Tetsu/status/1837549609435926791Coolerbros... Why papa doesn't care about us?
>>495467117NTA, but there is a difference between wanting a character and being willing to pay certain prices for it. Usually DLC packs help, if prices are kinda dumb, but when the more appealing characters are already in game, it makes it a more difficult job to sell.
>>495464947>Shitty headlinerYe of little imagination>Hey look guys, it's the GT Story expansion! Look at the GT storyline alongside some what-ifs in the saga, here's S17 with some of the rildo crew and Luud for 15-20 bucks alongside small little things like new lines/stages/costumes/etc.Boom, that's a hundred million dollars right there or however much profitable DLCs make. You can do this for OG too. SH and Daima are probably having story content alongside the characters with a stage or two each. The regrettable reason for why OG got shafted is that they had their prospects of adding in strong DB rep or GT and GT was what the team wanted (with the benefit that the DB dlc, coming in Season pass 2, will also get the benefit of lessons learned from season pass 1 so it may even be of higher quality content than you'd get if it was in base).I think people are also underestimating the custom mission mode, it's functionally modding tools in terms of story mode. Maybe not 1-to-1 to something complex like Skyrim modding but has the benefit of being much simpler for newer players and easier to share the missions.
>>495467542>game has no story mode>let's add one for GTDoubt.
>>495467542>Ye of little imagination>proceeds with tons of headcanonYeah, I think I can get by without "imagination" just fine.
>he still draws Toriyama characters from other series for his sectionMan, Toyo really misses Toriyama huh
>>495467747We do have a story mode, it's the character routes, you could easily add one for Goku (GT)/Pan and either S17 or Baby Vegeta depending on how indepth you wanted to go (S17's big thing also having Hellfighter 17 being how you start). This could be the case, we admittedly don't know the structure for the DLCs yet, only what they'll be about.
>>495468287I think it will just be the characters, to be honest. Might be wrong, but that seems a awful lot of work to add campaigns.
>>495467326>10k people pointing out the omission of Super 17>253 replies full of people saying that he'll be DLC with the Shadow Dragons with 700 likes each>NOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE IT DEBUNKS MY DOOMING!Pathetic>>495467396>Usually DLC packs helpSparking DLC packs are good value, 9$ for 7 to 9 characters is a great deal, Bamco sold Pikkon+GoD Toppo DLC for 17$ for Xenoverse 2 and people ate that shit without complaining, it made a profit, fucking Pikkon.> but when the more appealing characters are already in game, it makes it a more difficult job to sellI don't think so, people are willing to buy the DLC of non-hype characters because they're satisfied that the hype shit is already in the game, they have fond memories of using that non-hype character, and the fact that they don't have to wait for the hype shit, plus some of them want to support the developers for their "goodwill and not being scummy", which is the exact same reason the Sparking Zero marketing campaign ended up with a "BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!" trailer.
>>495468561>arguing the devs don't want to milk the fanbase>doompostingEh?>253 replies full of people saying that he'll be DLC with the Shadow Dragons with 700 likes eachOne of the 700+ likes responses is a guy selling it's okay since the important people are already there, kek.
>>495468561Perhaps, so, but I bet some like me won't bother with packs and will go for a few individual characters.>support developersMate, this is selling at 80€. Can't ask for more support than that. No chance I'm paying for random DLC to further "support" them.
>>495468040Dude, Toyotaro was like Toriyama's dog with how loyal he was to his master
>>495468912Saying that the devs don't want to milk the fanbase is extremely stupid, but with Sparking is different, they don't want to milk it by being scummy and selling the hype shit piece by piece, instead, fucking Bandai decided to gather some goodwill and bank on that, it works in this day and age when people are tired to put out more cash to "get to the hype shit" while feeling scammed of what the base game is giving you.>One of the 700+ likes responses is a guy selling it's okay since the important people are already there, kek.So? At least he's not dooming about Super 17 not making it even as DLC, unlike you and your unpaid joob, Shazamtroon.>>495469134>Mate, this is selling at 80€. Can't ask for more support than thatUnderstandable>No chance I'm paying for random DLC to further "support" them.Many are willing to do it tho, but I'm sure as shit it wouldn't be the case if GT, Movies and the most important shit from Super were DLC instead
>>495468478Idk, I think it all depends on how the campaigns are, the DLCs are 90% likely to add in a new stage at least and probably lines for custom missions, and I wouldn't be too surprised if the delineation between our custom missions and the devs DLC will be full-blown cutscenes and how they can make fully new stuff and lines. So adding in a new campaign, once the materials for it, shouldn't be too hard (just get voice actors to record some lines, maybe someone to get the lines into the custom mission system). I could see people making custom sagas with their own what-ifs through the system even if it'll be a bit finnicky since I doubt they'll let you so seamlessly go from one custom mission to another (my GT Zamasu bit as example, it'll probably be that I can't make a collection that you can progress with each stage of it but rather have to look at my collections of custom missions and find your next part).
I want them to take weird ass scenarios from xenoverse and put them in this game like Meta Cooler and his clones butting into Gohan vs Cell or Turles interfering in the saiyan saga
Maybe it's because I still prefer the old school, but I really don't want a constant stream of DLCs, like Xenoverse 2 gets. Just add the relevant characters and leave it at that.
>>495469917won't be officially in but that's prime custom battle material
>>495470115Foolishness anon, Foolishness. DLC controls everything. Without DLC you cannot profit off anything, let alone this game.
>>495469604>Saying that the devs don't want to milk the fanbase is extremely stupidThey clearly aren't, this isn't Xenoverse. That's visible e.g. in that they included all the most popular GT characters in the base game instead of forcing people to pay extra for it. Ditto for movies. OG might be the only exception since they left out almost everyone.>So? At least he's not dooming about Super 17 not making it even as DLC, unlike you and your unpaid joob, Shazamtroon.Okay, schizo, I accept your concession.
>>495470115>but I really don't want a constant stream of DLCs, like Xenoverse 2 gets. Just add the relevant characters and leave it at that>leave it at that>Bamco>In this day and ageAnon, I.....
>>495470205>>495470267Am well aware I'm on copium, but if it was up to me this would have this coming season, then add the missing BT3 characters in a legacy DLC and then add the remaining relevant characters from Daima in bulk. And that's it, but yeah probably too optimistic.
>>495470236>They clearly aren't, this isn't Xenoverse. That's visible e.g. in that they included all the most popular GT characters in the base game instead of forcing people to pay extra for it. Ditto for movies. OG might be the only exception since they left out almost everyone.This is a BAMCO GAME retard, Xenoverse 2 has nothing to do with it other than being just another example of many.95% of Bamco anime games release Season Passes FOR YEARS without being GAAS, it's just their business model, much better than paying for a lackluster sequel with underwhelming additions.>MUH CONCESSION BUZZWORDERINO!Kill yourself Shazamtroon
>>495470687I hope the coming characters don't put the existing ones to shame. I still remember how FighterZ's base roster left much to be desired when compared to DLC characters (visually and gameplay wise).
>>495470687It's okay to concede just once, you don't have to do it twice in a row, friendo.
>>495470919>Relies on buzzwords because he got BTFODone.
>>495470115I do, I want the game to have at least 300 characters when support stops
>>495471197How do you even get a number that high without diving into Heroes or what if forms?
>>495470115same. i'd like to see Fasha, Zangya, GT Vegeta, Super 17, Cocotte, and Sorrel added, but everyone else i wanna play is already in the game. i don't even want the Season Pass cause SH and Daima are two scoops of melted ass on a cone.unless they're gonna do SDBH DLC. if they open that portion of the mythos up, i'm ready to buy multiple Passes.
>DB Heroes predecessor introduce Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta and Broly>Spike introduce both of them for Raging Blast 1>Same thing could happen to Heroes and Sparking ZeroSuper Saiyan 4 Vegito has a chance...
Super Heroes is the only reasonable course after Daima
The missing characters from BT3, OG, Z, GT and Super are the only reasonable reasonable course after Daima
>>495471043>third concessionNot even gonna read that one.
12 Stages actually isn't that bad now that i know they aren't counting "Wasteland (Day)" and "Wasteland (Night) as different stages. it's probably closer to 18 when you factor in the alternate versions of existing stages.
>>495472005>Announcing that he's fleeing from facts and logic not once, but twiceDone? Yup, done.
>>495472106Lack of the icy stage is bizarre though, considering how big of an influence the Broly movie was on the game.
>>495471993nobody is buying the King Piccolo, Tao, Tambourine, and Eighter 4-pack. cut it out. lol
>>495472201>fourth concessionDidn't read that one either btw.
>>495472325>The thing I've totally made up in my head is actually realYou cut it out>>495472405>Still here, still replying to me like a salty bitch in heat giving free concessions over and over again because he has nothing elseKek, mindbroken
>>495472246or the three other movies that took place in icy locations
>>495472325Why not? King Piccolo was in 2 BTs, and Tao Pai Pai has been in since the first one.
>>495472246that's true, it is really weird there's no icy stage. i always like those in fighting games. i wonder if they wanted to do something with stage destruction on a snowy map that they haven't had time to finish.
>>495472601Icy stage is a prime candidate for a free update, it would be a true rip-off to ask for extra payment for something like this.
>>495472473>>495472537i'm just dicking around. i'm sure they would be bundled with 4 characters from other series in an 8-pack to help carry some of the weight.
>>495472537Because OG is irrelevant? 2 older DB games never got OG shit and you expect SZ to?
>>495472782>Because OG is irrelevant?Yeah, it's so irrelevant that they bothered to shove Teen Goku in.
>>495472473>concession numero fiveThis post status: not read.
>>495472747for sure! i would be super surprised if they popped up with a $2.99 Stage DLC. though it would be amusing to joke about taking people "who can't afford it" on an "all expenses paid vacation" to get that ass beat on the snowy stage. lol
>>495472601>i wonder if they wanted to do something with stage destruction on a snowy map that they haven't had time to finishThe "destruction" thing is just cope, ToP stage is just a reskin of Kami's Lookout and you can only destroy the ground and some rocks, while the rest of the stage is just air.>>495472782>Because OG is irrelevant?This kind of cope is incredible, people love OG overseas, it would sell gangbusters there>>495472943Status: Mind? Broken, Yup, yupperino, yupperidooooo!
>>495471349Next year is already taken by Superhero and Daima, then you can easily do 3 more between the cut characters from 3 plus new OG and GT characters plus some more movie henchmen and wathever characters from Daima that don't get in the first pack, that would be around 260 characters, and by the time that's done it will be like 2029 and there should already be new movies or another anime to adapt.
>>495473048>6th time the charm: concession editionYou wonder if I read this post? I did not.
>>495472943>>495473048Fuck off back to /dbs/
>>495473204>I didn't read that!>But I'm sure as shit keeping the count!KEK! You're as mindbroken as Vegeta.>>495473253You first
>>495473253Didn't read that post btw.
>>495473048totally possible. i knew i was going out on a limb wondering if they would have little puffs of snow burst up from under characters when they hit the snowy ground, or get some pretty glacier shards whenever someone gets knocked away through a glacier or a snowy hill.
>>495473193i'm sorry, i do not want the roster padded with Slug and Cooler henchmen with Full Power Energy Wave ultimates. we fucking deserve SDBH characters. make all those niggas into Costumes for Freeza Soldier that swap out one or two of his movies if its someone like Salza with a signature ki blade and call it a day.
>>495472106>Open Field (Day, Evening, Night)>Rocky Wasteland (Day, Evening, Night)>Islands (Day, Evening, Night)>Planet Namek>Dying Planet Namek>Tenkaichi Budokai stage (Normal, Empty)>Supreme Kai's World>Tournament of Power Arena>West City (Day, Evening, Night)>Ruined City>Hyperbolic Time Chamber>Cell Games (Day, Evening)That's 22 total if you include all variations. I do hope DLC adds more stages, though. Not just all the remaining ones from BT3, but also some new ones too:>Pilaf's Palace>OG World Tournament>OG Red Ribbon HQ>Baba's Palace Arena>The Big Gete Star>Babidi's Ship>Cave>Meteor>Planet Tuffle>GT Open Field (from the Super 17 fight)>Space (Earth)>Unknown Planet Arena>Baseball Field>Zeno's Palace Arena>Piccolo's House>DBS Red Ribbon HQ>Demon Realm>Gomah's Palace
>>495473905>swap out one or two of his moviesswap out one or two of his *moves*
>>495472325Dude, did OG kill your family or something? Also, 4-pack? We already know DLC packs will probably have at least 6-8 characters if the 3-part, 20+ character season pass is anything to go by.
>OGkeks so mind broken they genuinely think the devs are gonna do OG shit well over a year after launch>The only logical cope they can come up with is that "b-but they did it before in their 17 year old game"It's actually becoming cringe. Just accept it and move on. And if you're going to throw this much of a whiny bitch fit over irrelevant characters I would hope you at least put your money where your mouth is and don't buy the game because of it. It would be even more cringe if you idiots already had it pre-ordered and you're still whining like a bunch of losers
>this retarded faggot actually thinks bandai namco won't milk everything they can with DLC
>>495473905People who want to use Freeza Soldier as the generic character placeholder never fucking played Freeza soldier. He's not generic and his moveset wouldn't fit anybody, he's a Satan tier joke character that moves at half the speed of everyone else, has extremely clunky combos, has Energy Wave and Full Power energy wave as both his normal specials and has an ultimate that hurts himself
>>495474535post your hours in Sparking Zero. lol
>>495474256i'm just kidding around.>>495472748
also my butt hurts a little from that dicking it took in the morning. lol
>>495475104Bejitabro...
>cries in oh geeBut I want pedo chi chi wahhh
Sanctuary>>495475396>>495475396>>495475396
>>495474736We've seen gameplay, he's the same as he was in 3