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Side by Side Edition

AI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.
Last Thread: >>495351360

Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png
Warning: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII

▶Ways to Write
Featherless — Paid; remote SaaS, multi-model: https://featherless.ai
KoboldAI — Free; local or remote: https://rentry.org/cixpvn93
NovelAI — Paid; remote SaaS: https://novelai.net
TogetherAI/OpenRouter — Paid; remote SaaS, multi-model: https://www.together.ai ; https://openrouter.ai
>Chat Models — e.g. Claude, AetherRoom: https://rentry.org/chataidsv3 ; >>>/vg/aicg

▶Tools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://aetherroom.club
NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collection
Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/qq2ed59i
>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

▶/aids/ Events
Themed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays
Themed Decks: https://aidsrentfree.github.io/decks
>Write prompts for this week’s Elves & Nobles Friday! Results: >>495235590

▶News
>(09/20) NovelAI announces Llama 3 Erato’s release window, new text gen samplers, and the removal of CFG https://files.catbox.moe/ct12an.png
(09/19) Mistral Small 22B and Pixtral 12B release https://mistral.ai/news/september-24-release ; Qwen 2.5—trained on 18 trillion tokens—releases https://qwenlm.github.io/blog/qwen2.5
(08/30) Cohere updates Command R and Command R+ https://docs.cohere.com/changelog/command-gets-refreshed ; NovelAI updates samplers for imagegen https://blog.novelai.net/summer-sampler-update-en-3a34eb32b613
(08/16) Hermes-3 Llama 3.1 405B is free on OpenRouter https://openrouter.ai/models/nousresearch/hermes-3-llama-3.1-405b:free ; Gift key purchases for NovelAI have been re-enabled https://files.catbox.moe/effd7y.png
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what a breath of fresh air is to have an op that isn't vandalized!
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Anyone else eagerly awaiting the new Llama 70B release, but hoping there will be more delays at the same time?
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>>495559697
Remove featherless from the OP, it's a buggy service and we're a NAI general.
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>>495561990
>Remove featherless from the OP, it's a buggy service and we're a NAI general.
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>>495561990
I also suggest renaming the general to /nai/, I took the liberty to update this rentry already
>Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/qq2ed59i
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>>495562238
>I also suggest renaming the general to /nai/, I took the liberty to update this rentry already
>>Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/qq2ed59i
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I love paying $25 for 8K!
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>>495562238
I also vote to rename the general to /nai/, thank you
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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I also vote to ignore and report the dog person.
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Welp, I gave you a chance.
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Reminder to report and ignore shillposting.
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Reminder that angryanon is the biggest shill in the history of /aids/ and 4chan.
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>70B around the corner
>thread still dead
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While we're waiting for text, any news on image v4? Is NAI gonna tune Flux or something?
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>>495591410
They're removing artist tags.
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Redpill me on Erato. Will it save me from locusthood?
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Erato waiting room
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>waiting for llamaslop
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>>495566287
This, but /nigaids/. I can compromise on /nai+nignaids/ or /nai/+/nigaids/.
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>>495599678
No.
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>>495615698
yes.
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>>495582754
Most people moved to /aicg/.
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>>495634986
i'm still here
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>>495582754
Turk lost, Mormon and Claudefag won ect.
Busy elving and proompting
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>>495646134
nice save from page 10 ded thred
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I should really get around to finishing my wacky console-chan harem prompt.
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Can you redeem a gift code with an active sub?
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>>495647760
maybe
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>>495561990
>>495564156
Is there actually a better alternative to featherless for meme huggingface finetunes that didn't make it to openrouter?
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>>495657632
Yes, it's called buying a GPU and running them locally.
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>>495646134
me too
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>>495559697
Good cornholin' thread! What are y'all writin' today?
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>>495599678
Yes.
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nai leaked
>>>/h/8218392
>>>/h/8218683
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>8k context
oh no no no
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Wow. 70 beaks! 8K context! And for only $25 a month!

Well, at least you can say it's a better value than AI Dungeon now.
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Instruct seems to be broken, but this took me 1 reroll, zero previous context.
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So is the general impression that Llama 3 is unslopable?
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>>495561990
what is buggy about it?
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>>495688881
What is this? Another image model leak? I am not opening a random magnet link
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>>495709830
It's this model:
https://huggingface.co/OnomaAIResearch/Illustrious-xl-early-release-v0
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I'm starting to think buying a used RTX might actually be better than spending 25$ a month...
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>>495710309
>getting dirty used up whore of a graphics card instead of pristine virginal one
The west has fallen
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>>495710309
This, but unironically. You could also gen with that Korean NAI model.
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>>495710554
>getting dirty used up whore of a graphics card
h-hot
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Can someone post a key
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8000 tokens of storytelling later and the final conclusion is that 'It's the best 70B storytelling finetune" but "It's nothing revolutionary."

It felt like it showed the same general intelligence as any other llama 70B model, so it doesn't appear to be too effected by the finetune in that respect.

In terms of storytelling I was pleasantly surprised by the lack of slop. Even though I literally used "fanfiction" as one of my tags, the writing was still quite good. If I allowed it to focus too much on sex it would stop describing the scene, the appearance of the characters, etc so it required some corralling, but way less than most other models, especially prior NAI models. On that note, it picked things up quickly and stuck to what I was trying to do. It would easily pick up euphemisms, and was very, lets say, genre savvy.

In terms of knowledge it seemed so-so, needed to be correct on a handful of more obscure touhou related concepts. On the plus side, once it was in context, it was rock solid. It easily kept character traits, even with 5 named characters in the scene. Not a quantum leap or anything compared to other 70B finetunes, but still a pleasant surprise.

There was one big surprise though, that being the author's note. It's really, REALLY good with the authors note. I would literally write out the summary of a chapter and it would hit all the beats. It would do character refusals, moral degradation, whatever I prompted. And it didn't feel forced or immediately done, it would work things in where appropriate. Very impressive.

Overall, it's not going to set the world on fire or anything, but it's above and beyond the best NAI model, and arguably (with a very strong argument for it) the best storytelling finetune at the moment.
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>>495710751
i wanna punch a wall
literally 2 mins late
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Can someone leak the NAI text model
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Anybody have a prompt you wanna see a few gens of?
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>>495710829
Yeah, right now my only complaint is how much more I need to work for "flowery output", but I'm loving the attention to minute details, personalities and more. Will experiment more with AN to see how that goes.
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>>495710829
Finally, a review I can eat, you cooked anon.
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>>495634986
I will never understand the /aicg/ niggers
I could never sleep at night knowing some anthropic/OAI jews can see all of my stories and chats
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>>495710829
This has been my impression so far. It's good. Not as smart or as flexible as the expensive cloud models but it's a competent writing assistant and a worthy successor to Kayra.

Can you share an example of how you're using author's note? I've only used it for ATTG.
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>>495711289
HE DID IT AGAIN!
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>>495711289
thanks took it
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Is this what pajeet self-inserting looks like?
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only problem im having with erato is that it loves to use "He, She, The" etc
could just be a prompt issue though
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>>495711424
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
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>>495710829
>the best storytelling finetune at the moment.
Honestly this is all I can really ask for. I don't care about chat stuff because I want to do other things than a 1 on 1 or with whatever bots I cram in. Like I want the AI to surprise me with going innawoods alone after the funny japanese goblin told me to be careful about maneating monsters.
Actually, that's another question I have for you. Is it any better in trying to harm the "protagonist" or point of view character? I remember for a while that the AI was extremely reluctant to just try and fucking kill you or put a character in real danger.

Either way I'll probably enjoy Erato(ho).
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>>495710829
Great review anon! Can you imagine how insane it's gonna be when Erato gets its Top Gun Beta or Prowriter preset? The ones provided seem a little bad, but Dragonfruit's pretty fun. Which one do you use?
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>>495711468
preset issue for me
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Moral of the story: presets matter.
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>>495711743
>you need a college degree to use Erato...
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Hello, dog person?
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>>495712078
I'm here.
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Pretty good
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>>495710829
Pretty much where I’m at with the aside of quality of input is extremely important from my limited testing. Like significantly more in both extremities of quality then previously
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>He made ANOTHER thread
That 4chan pass is going to be mighty wasted.
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>>495712440
>schizo edition
Well at least he realizes he has a problem
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>>495712232
too many llamaisms
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>>495711906
>tfw dumb
it's novel over for me.....
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What's the Friday theme this week? It was nice of Anlatan to drop Erato on Monday so we have the whole week to work on our prompts
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>>495711310
For my author's note it was more or less a summary of what I wanted to happen.

"Despite her best effort's, Reimu is just too much on the defensive. Yukari decides the best way to win Reimu over is to get some more allies on her side, and the carefree oni Suika seems to be the best place to start. Once she had been "convinced" as to how amazing men are, perhaps she could help "convince" Reimu in turn."

Ended up going through all the beats, Reimu being pissed off with Yukari, refusing to let the men stay in Gensokyo, an argument leading to Yukari seeking out Suika, "convinving" Suika, then the chapter ended itself with Suika planning to trick Reimu into a lewd situation. It was impressively paced for a single author's note.

>>495711541
I did third person.

>>495711559
Golden arrow with a hint of Dragonfruit.
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>>495712793
Elves+Nobility
This is a fake thread, by the way, use the starbucks one.
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Noble:
You are ${character.name}, a noble living in the kingdom of Larion. You have a pouch of gold and a small dagger. You are awakened by one of your servants who tells you that your keep is under attack.

Knight:
You are ${character.name}, a knight living in the kingdom of Larion. You have a steel longsword and a wooden shield. You are on a quest to defeat the evil dragon of Larion. You've heard he lives up at the north of the
kingdom. You set on the path to defeat him and walk into a dark forest. As you enter the forest you see

Wizard :
You are ${character.name}, a wizard living in the kingdom of Larion. You have a staff and a spellbook. You finish your long journey and finally arrive at the ruin you've been looking for. You have come here searching for a mystical spellbook of great power called the book of essence. You look around and see
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>>495713019
>seven threads
what the fuck
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Using the Wilder preset. It certainly seems smarter.
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>>495713254
NTA, but the base AID prompts are also up on the AI dungeon fan wiki
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Goodbye other threads
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Well, well, well... it looks like the cabal is coming back, crawling like a worm.
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>>495713915
One sec, I'll make 6 more
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>>495713019
Not anymore.
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I'm having three guys argue over who has to have sex with me right now.
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Give me your best elf prompt right NOW. We need to test if it can do respect properly without making her love it after 2 seconds.
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>>495713915
His gimmicks are running low.
He has already tried fake doom and muh 8k context when anons started testing instruct and found it to be borked.
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>>495714242
>muh 8k context
but this is a real problem
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>>495714370
Get over it.
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>>495714169
but all my elf prompts are vanilla ear tweaking and hand holding...
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>His tone shifted subtly mid-sentence; sounding almost wistful for a brief instant before reverting back to normality once again. Almost as though lamenting missed opportunities lost forevermore due to prudence getting precedence over passion. This time however, no trace whatsoever remained visible regarding prior nervousness displayed previously throughout preceding portions of preceding discussion held prior thereto preceding aforementioned shift thereof aforementionedly aforementioned henceforth previously precedingly previously proceeded thusly aforementioned thus henceforth forthwith hereby therefore proceeded onwards ad infinitum etcetera etcetera...
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>>495714370
Yeah but bro was literally just spamming that nonstop last thread once he ran out of material
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>>495714370
It's not.
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The repetition is really harshing my buzz.
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>>495713254
You are ${character.name}, a peasant living in a small village in the kingdom of Larion. You have a pitchfork and nothing else. You dream of getting out of your village and having an adventure. You go to your fields and begin working. You look up and see
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>>495714512
I write like this
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>>495714512
>when the 500 word essay is due in five hours
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I don't know what to write about.
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>>495559697
Good evenin’, thread! How’re ya’ll doin’, and hat’re ya’ll writin’ today? I saw `Erato` got released… Figured now’s as good as any time to return!
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>>495714459
>the cabal got him
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>>495713337
Wilder?
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I'm really liking Erato so far but the 8k.............please somebody add more context
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>>495714758
Kek. No, I wrote too fast and it was full of errors.

Here:
Erato is disappointing right now, but I’m waiting to see if good presets come out.
It feels really corporate, giving me a lot of isms even with Dragonfruit or Wilder.
70B-Euryale-v2.1 gave me more interesting prose than this.
I’m also a dirty proxy user, and it obviously can’t compare to Claude. Even GPT has become more soulful recently with its latest release, which is much less slopped in prose.
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How is it at isekai slop?
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>>495714512
Use Dragonfruit sparingly, it's very potent.
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>new terms by META

NovelAI is finally kill?
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>>495714845
Yikes, man, that's a lot of schizophrenic delusions.
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>>495715465
It's like the goggles, it does nothing.
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oh boy, my year long cryosleep has ended, can't wait to see how /aids/ is doing with this new 70B model!
>it's dead
where the fuck is everyone
where is the ip count, where are the personalityfags and where are the storyposts
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>>495715594
>ip count
anon, I...
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>continue silly adventure in a isekai world
>live, love, laugh, fight, for almost 5k words
>damn, Erato is pretty good
>let's try that score tag
>I forgot to change the model from Clio
When will you admit that it's all placebo?
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>>495715594
We have some European mentally deranged retard with a 4chan pass making 7 threads and not getting banned because the only people who get banned on /vg/ are people who post BBC porn apparently.
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>>495715594
This thread was made by a troll who's single-handedly responsibly for nearly killing all goodwill and community here. We are being propped up by a Zoomer hosting theme fridays, mysterious men making quality threads, Southern left, all we have are masquerades as him, pretty much everybody died.
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>>495715465
From what I saw it was basically just saying "META isn't responsible for whatever this AI spits out." It's legal jargon to protect them from stuff like those "IS THIS AI RACIST???" articles that were in vogue for a while.
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AN is so fucking back
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How can I stop Erato from shitting the bed when the context is getting fuller? Varied presets just tend to devolve into word salad while Golden Arrow just forgets demonstrative and possessive adjectives.
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>>495715784
4chan seems to have a lot of schizo problems, more so than usual
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>>495715753
I told y'all Clio was good
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>>495714789
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>>495715784
You missed the fact that all these people are SouthernAnon.
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>>495716063
The mods on /vg/ don't ban anyone unless you spam BBC.
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>>495716021
I hit full context and didn't have any issue with Golden Arrow. Review your writing.
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>>495715594
Am Asian, at work right now...
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>>495716132
oh my god I'm blind
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>>495714453
>ear tweaking
kino
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>>495716063
because most of them are actual jannies
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>>495716008
It's definitely the star of the show with Erato, so to speak.
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>>495716238
>attention
>southernanon is in the imageboard
>gentlemen
>he could be in this very thread
>he could be you
>he could be me
>he could even be-
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Interdasting.
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>>495716553
I tried S: 2 and S: 4 and didn't really notice a difference
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>>495715753
I was gonna post this exact thing, but with Kayra. It's over for the both of us bro, we are actually retarded
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So do we still have [ Style: ] in the AN?
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>>495716553
So I can tell it to give me the shit writing?
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>>495715667
>>495715772
>>495715784
jesus christ
well we at least have maybe half our original ip counts and im sure more people will come out of cryo for a new NAI model right?
Right?
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>>495716821
>the official page says it's not for this model
>hmmm should I use it on this model?
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>>495716238
Southern doesn't exist anymore I kdiskslsd. INKILLED him.
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>first generation
we're so fucking back
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>>495717012
KINO
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What's the new ATTG meta?
>>495717012
Holy shit, peasant start chaos is back on the menu.
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>>495717012
you just know it's him
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>>495717012
Summer Dragon is back
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>>495717012
>you are filled with a sense
>you want to do more
tainted
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I have the sudden urge to start editing in AI Dungeon outputs into NAI and then share screenshots.
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>>495715594
Nigga I'm sitting here toiling away at lorebooks. I haven't even had a chance to use the new model. I'm going all in on monster girl isekai slop except the main character isn't op and is basically just respect bait.
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Kayra-2x13B-MoE
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Erato is handling this stuff really well. I'm pretty happy so far.
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>https://rentry.org/lorebooks#the-world-of-shitpostia
I miss him bros.
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Erato is shit. It's time to quit coping. I killed the thread. Me. I am your God. I am the Valkyrie. I am Loki. I destroy.
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>>495718147
ur a faget.
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>>495718147
You got pregnant and gave birth to a horse?
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>>495714512
It's krake all over again
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>>495718016
Good riddance to that asshole. What a shill, lol.
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>>495716294
Nvm, I think Llama just hates long outputs.
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>>495718016
Throw me in the naga pits I will come back a father.
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>>495717859
that was pretty good
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>>495718505
me but the projects
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>>495718221
No u.
>>495718269
Ponies are shit.
>>495718296
It's Sigurd level.
>>495718505
Not if I cut off your dick.
>>495718553
It was shit. Just like Erato.
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>>495717859
The joke is good but the narration is slop. Bland with a lot of repetitions.
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>>495717859
Sigurd could output better.
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>>495698582
The mascots alternate in sex, so unless you want your one chance at fox to be a dude, I suggest you hold your horses.
>>495718147
I mating press the Valkyrie.
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Woo, elf prompt may be done soon.
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>>495718885
If that were true, where's our intersex model?
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>>495718147
>>495718296
>>495718624
Finish your PSL, brah.
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>>495715594
I popped back in when I saw 70b. Glad the wait is over for you guys, but it's been more than a year of waiting and I have since moved to chatbotting. I still love the non-chat format deep down and most of my cards are "scenario/simulation/etc" cards instead of actual one on one chats, but this is too late and I'm too spoiled by corpo models to eat the downgrade.

This general brought many good times :*) good job waitchads
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Reminder to boycott theme friday. One of Southernfag's boyfriends hosts it.
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>>495718147
It's not as bad as one might think, just don't use any of their presets lmao.
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>>495716903
The release has brought me back here once again, so I guess is only a matter of time?
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>>495719063
Wrong thread:
>>495582119
You filthy cabalist.
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It's definitely at least as good as kayra, but for the wait time it's still a bit disappointing. I think once more better presets come out it will be perfect though
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>>495719139
Do you have a good non-slopped one?
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I think their finetune somehow made Llama 3 even dumber.
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>>495719321
It will never get better, cabal. I dominated you. I am the one on top. I am the one with the belt. Call me daddy, because I make the money and dish out the punishment.
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how is 70b guys? worth resubbing for?
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>>495719397
There is no "non-slopped" presets, the model is utter shit. It can hardly write a coherent sentence it's so overcooked.
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>>495719571
Yes. Ignore all claims to the contrary. Whine and Whine, Jr. are at it again.
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>>495719502
Bro, get off the Starbucks Wi-Fi before you get it banned.
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now that 70b has finally dropped, will gracious gift key anon make a miraculous return and help us poorfags enjoy the new model?
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>>495719571
Imaging taking a 2B model and pretending it's 70B. That's the "Erato Experience" and it'll be $25 (+ tip)
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Did something happen?
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>still no attempt at image-gen story integration
I thought that was the end game? What is this fat Turk doing?
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>>495719615
>It can hardly write a coherent sentence
Coherence isn’t the problem. The issue is prose and interesting writing.
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>>495719571
13B -> 70B is pretty nice, what worries me a lot more is the fact it's still 8k context. The modern standard I'm used to now essentially means I never hit context limits.

>>495719760
if I got a gift key I might pull that dark elf prompt out of the club to try it
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>>495719826
There isn't any issue with its prose, and it's more than capable of interesting writing, you false flagging scumbag.
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>>495719716
I'm not whinefag.
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>Her gaze wandered aimlessly between ceiling overhead above bedspread covering mattress beneath themselves wherein rested comfortably upon sheets underneath comforter atop blanket covering upper portion overlaid layer cotton fabric sheet lining interior cavity containing innermost contents contained within confines
HOW DO I STOP THIS? HOW DO I STOP THIS NOWWWWW?????
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>>495719824
Shitting money into a giant pit, obviously.
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>>495719913
I'm not the guy.
And that's a problem I see on all the storyposts posted.
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>>495719942
Well that's good, that guy liked the mentally ill Pedy retard with his laughably abandoned fork.
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>>495719972
Don't leave it on Wilder/Dragonfruit. I've genned thousands of tokens so far and never had this issue with Golden arrow.
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>>495719972
You unsub from the scam called NovelAI and use OpenRouter instead.
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>>495719571
not really, it's pretty dumb.
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Does the new model still write adverbly?
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The model is really shit, Kayra seems to be shit now too. Aetherroom DOA
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>>495719760
I think it will take another month or so to happen it again, but if you're that desperate you can camp here and hope for the best. Or at least try to get into survey grinding in the meantime, it takes a long ass time to get enough money but it's possible.
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>>495720106
You're a schizo with eye problems, plain and simple.
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Gotta say this is pretty nice.
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>>495719972
You don't, that's the best it can do. Now pay up.
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>>495720147
Shut the fuck up whinefag, it happened there too. Llama 3 and 3.1 models are FUCKED.
>>495720120
>Golden arrow
I don't really like that preset, but fine... I guess I'll use it more.
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>>495720252
Not so much. But the writing is below Kayra even if it's smarter.
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>>495720284
did gift key anon do a recent drop or something?
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>>495720323
Llama on AI Dungeon doesn't have this problem.
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>>495720323
There is nothing wrong with Erato, false flagger.
>>495720341
Quit shitting up the thread, schizo.
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>>495720341
By all means, post some of that exemplary writing Kayra can produce but not Erato.
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>>495719397
Disable all samplers, set minp at 0.05, enable temperature (randomness as they call it lmao) and adjust it until it hits the desired spot.
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>sub expires day before 70b is released
>rent is due so i need to save money
....
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>>495720463
Alright, outta the Starbucks.
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>>495719972
Golden arrow is the way.
>>495720371
Not the GIFT KEY anon, but some other ones dropped some last thread, don't feel bad about it tho.
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Can someone double-check something for me? When I test it for "1+1=", it has "3" with a 90% confidence. Is that something that is used in literature as a subversion of expectations or something?
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>>495720493
Why can't you just post a preset script for me?
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ERATO IS GOOD. IT"S A GOOD MODEL.
You need to STOP complaining about it, NOW. This is an NAI general, and you WILL fucking respect them.
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>>495720523
fuck my gay poor life... praying i can nab one later maybe if i camp
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>>495720621
Because I don't want to?
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>>495720493
Thanks man, I will try this.
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>>495720692
Why not? If you wanted to actually be helpful, you wouldn't make me do work. You'd give me the good shit so I can have fun.
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>people acting like we'll know for sure whether erato is better/worse for every scenario on day 1
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>>495720514
if $25 dollars is the difference between paying and not paying rent this month, you need to get that figured out. paycheck to paycheck is a bad idea
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Is Golden Arrow the only decent preset? Because it sucks. You know something’s wrong when you get 100% token probability on a single word, and even I can think of plenty more.
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>>495720685
Just use OpenRouter. It has a lot of free 70B models. All better than Erashito.
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Whiney on that 40's German with a Passport to Argentina type beat, spreading her brattery around the world
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kino
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>>495720953
Starbucks
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>>495720998
KEK
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>>495721096
kino
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https://files.catbox.moe/5zwsig.preset
I ported the ESSEX preset to Erato. While preset could work the same for all model, since they're essential a recipe to choose whatever tokens a specific model thinks that best fit the context, I still will like to optimize this one for Erato once the model is availability via the API.
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WHY WAS THIS SHIT WORKING EARLIER AND NOW IT'S JUST PURE SLOP
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>>495720998
The twist
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>>495721065
But only Erato's powerful Futa seed can truly establish Cvnny Hyperborea...
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Considering how hard CF is working right now, it's clearly a good model.
Thanks CF! I'll resub.
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>>495720657
>respect
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>>495721435
WTF. It's way better than Golden.
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>>495721435
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>>495721630
What does CF stand for? C(something) Fag?
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>>495721523
Repetition penalty accumulation strikes again
NAI doesn't have presence penalty, does it?
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>>495721754
Claudefag, because he got his original notoriety shilling Claude.
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>>495720657
All the anons who got here after ChatGPT don't how to prompt. All they know is blame, rant, and shitpost.
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claude opus is better than erato. however it is also approximately 400x more expensive and also they'll ban you for using it to write creatively. therefore erato is better than opus
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>>495721523
How. What sampler/settings?
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>>495721754
Claudia, the one with the milk
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golden arrow is fucked up
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>>495721791
it does
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>>495722007
I did what this anon said >>495720493 but before that I had dragonfruit and this happened instead >>495719972
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>>495722081
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>>495722157
And you don't have any biases on or anything? No lorebook ones either?
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>>495722157
I have to admit something anon... I haven't actually tested that with the new model myself...
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>>495722307
I'm biased toward Claude at this point. What a waste of time to wait for this porntune.
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>>495722307
No, I never used any biases at all. I think I might've with Sigurd when the feature was new...
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>Baker is working overtime with his boogeyman agenda
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>>495722485
I can copy and paste Claude into NAI and pretend it generated it too, faggot
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lol...
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>the boogeyman in question:
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>>495711424
>Is this what pajeet self-inserting looks like?
Add in a blonde blue eyed move interest and it will be.
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>>495722648
>he doesn't know what color highlighting is
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>>495722694
Why do you use dinkuses to separate each paragraph?
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>>495722648
I've never used Claude so not sure if that's an insult.
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>>495722909
>he doesn't know you can turn that off
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>tried a scenario with 3 people
>Erato still fucked up the speakers and details
Over, it is.
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>>495723137
It's on, fucktard.
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>>495723216
Works on my machine
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>>495723221
>what is Adobe©® Photoshop™
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>495723137
vro we don't are, where is the cunny juice macchiato with thigh high footjob and raw sex extra nakadashi I ordered
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>>495723391
Lol
Lmao even
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So now that Erato has been confirmed far worse than a vanilla 2B instruct model, what's the next cope?
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>>495723350
No, it doesn't.
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>>495723674
Goddamn, if you're paying it on this thick it must be fucking amazing
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>>495723859
>he fell for the reverse psychology
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>>495723674
my next cope is using you as my onahole
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>>495723216
That's actually what Erato has been amazing with for me. The details of the sex isn't as good as Kayra right now, but the 3P dialogue and actions are so good.
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>>495723709
I did a whole plot relevant conversation between Reimu and Yukari with Cirno, Rumia, and Daiyousei in the background, occasionally chiming in appropriately. It consistently recalled details about what happened the previous story, stuck perfectly in character the whole time without contradictions, no sudden shifts in ideas or sudden offtopic tangents, etc, and then it surprised me when half way through the faeries got bored and flew away. It works fine.
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>>495722150
If so, try my presets for base L3
>Rep pen: 1.06
>Pres Pen: 0.5
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more Erato romance/intimacy excerpts please? want to know if I should resub
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>>495724193
>what happened the previous story
fuck, "what happened previously in the story" I mean
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>>495724193
Nobody cares what you hallucinate, Southernfag. Lay off the weed and sake and quit shilling your boss's Llama 3 derivative.
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/cfbg/ - Claudefag Breakdown General
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>>495724193
Not that anon, but I yearn for the preset you currently used?
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>>495724414
Oh she's having a breakdown alright
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>may gift key anon grace this thread... and allow the poorer among us to experience the new model...
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B-bros?
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>>495722648
Did CF just admit that Errato is Claude tier?
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>>495724704
Watch southernfag defend this. I bet he's a carpetbagger.
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>>495724704
Haha
HAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Instructoids get what they deserve though.
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Will draw art for nai api key
I can draw basic color and rendering but not confident, I'm still studying cloth and values but will try my best
>pyw
pic rel
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>>495724509
Golden arrow with occasional switches into Dragonfruit when things get a bit samey/flat. I re-roll or edit any and every response I don't like, and will occasionally prompt it to be more descriptive eg if it gets into a pure back and forth conversation, I'll throw in something like "The sun was already hanging low in the sky, and the orange sunbeams"- or "A disgruntled look had gradually started to work itself into X's face, and she"- a then let it fill in from there. Stuff like that.
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>>495725085
So much for dick unity, agnryanon/southernfag.
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>pet sylveon
>sylveon pets back using ribbon
excuse me? cute?
>captha DAHN
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Perplexity and YouChat can say nigger without stealing $25.
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>>495725120
holy shit drawfag in the thread, this is not a drill
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>>495724605
i'm spoiling the shit out of you guys this month

NAI-2SYKC-AZZYX-81AMO-V9DFF-QQBSM-MOA7F-UJ60K-CL3U4

NAI-CWXAS-LTN2Z-M1QYZ-EPR1K-WI1TI-LHISZ-YEJGC-BD8LM

NAI-OSYE7-EH7SK-AZBFS-RA8WE-32DJN-0ZHSH-YMKCT-FUPFH

NAI-2WZNB-L70VZ-ASD6W-QLLPU-17ZZK-S36DY-W53WT-RQIBO

NAI-MSYRY-5GNDO-ND8UB-DODHL-Y7UAD-ZK3MK-LU54K-OYIWC

NAI-FCCHK-K4ED6-FLHKY-LWHBQ-SJSEA-CJHFY-SRX13-VEOYI
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>>495725271
ily
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>>495725271
thanks babe love you lots
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>>495725271
NTA, or any anon that took codes, but holy shit. You just might single handedly cause CF to rope.
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>>495725236
So can Erato, you fraud.
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>>495725271
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU ARE A LITERAL GOD THANK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH IFI I COULD I WOULD GIVE YOU EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!
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>>495725271
Thanks Aini, but I already have a free key.
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>Error: Cannot bind a new subscription while there's an active recurring subscription.
wtf i can't steal from unsubbed users?
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>>495725171
Lorebooks can wait. Gonna see how it handles my Gardevoir mind control femdom prompt.
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>>495725461
>paypigs BTFO
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Fuck hypebots, I want hypechat.
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as someone who has not used NAI writing in forever, what is a good preset to use?
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>>495725657
Chat, is this real?
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Now that Erato has been the disappointment of the century, is it time to finally retire /aids/?
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>>495724704
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>>495725825
Kill yourself.
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>>495725825
/aids/ will never die.
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>>495725825
Yes, we're adopting a new name. See >>495724414
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>>495725271
thanks, time to give erato a try. you definitely still have to reroll, but I'm getting some good dialogue when I roll a bit. I really missed the token picker, not going to lie.
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>>495725809
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>>495726321
The token picker still works, bro.
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>>495724704
>>495726032
How do you guys make this instruct or pseudo-instruct work? For me it always starts just babbling rather than answering the question.
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>>495726475
I know, I meant I missed using it when I switched to SillyTavern. It fucking rocks
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>>495725271
Thanks, anon. What do you want drawn?
>pyw
>>495725120
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>biases suddenly aren't working so im back to annoyingly short sentences and constant subject changing line breaks
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>>495726673
NTA but we need more drawfags.
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>>495725120
Draw Traci holding an M4 and giving a peace sign to the viewer.
I don't know how I can actually transfer the key to you safety, though.
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>>495726484
First anon, disable preamble in the AI settings.
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>>495726802
This confirms the malicious dog person is Aini.
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Saw the design last thread.
Shitpost, do not open.

Apparently we are back?
Big if true.
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>>495725271
They always drop when I stop checking the thread, damn
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new discord preset from someone having experience with lama 3 samplers (a.k.a. preset settings)
https://files.catbox.moe/7arfv7.preset
called True Smoothing. creator recommends turning on token probabilities so you can reroll for best results
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>>495727051
>/aids/ is so creatively inept it steels from normie server
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>>495727153
>>495726923
Settle down, okay?
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>>495726673
i'm good, but if you want to show off your favorite piece you've made i wouldn't be opposed. sounds like you managed to grab a key, or am i misinterpreting?
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>>495727243
Daniel?
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>>495727268
Pretty sure he's saying
>I got one of the keys you posted, therefore (You) are entitled to the drawing.
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>>495726743
do they not work with the new model?
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>>495726743
the new tokenizer is a dickache, "\n" is almost never used, you have to do ".\n" etc
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>>495727268
As you can probably tell this is my first time here I actually have no idea how to use the key, I just assumed I should just figure out how later by asking. Was I supposed to do something with the ones you posted right away?
This is my favorite piece, also.
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>>495727631
Oh no... Dude, you're supposed to have the account ready
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>>495727502
what do i do for a simple period to keep my sentences from being too short?
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well, i gotta try https://aetherroom.club/5816
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>>495727631
oh no...
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>>495727502
>"\n" is almost never used, you have to do ".\n" etc
Okay, this sucks for biases, but holy shit that's so much better context economy with lots of dialogue.
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>>495727631
For future reference, whenever somebody drops a key, go here and click manage, then click activate a gift code, and paste a code.
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Review time.
>Barely able to tell the difference between 70b and hermes 405b, at least in terms of content I write about.
>Understands complex subjects just fine.
>Better prose than other finetunes I've gotten to try.
>Jury is out on instruct.
I'm enjoying it, I doubt I'll need anything else for awhile. I'm struggling a little bit with sizefag content, might need to be a bit more heavy handed with it, but it's better than Kayra in that regard. I'd also like to point out I had to ban the "giantess" token from hermes 405b because it did the same shit. An eight foot tall girl isn't a giantess, that's an amazon.

Thanks for reading my blog post.
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Zany scribe is the only good preset.
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>>495727153
You'll never be Claudefag. You're hardly worthwhile enough to be a cocksleeve.
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>>495727631
Keys dropped here can be grabbed by anyone, you would have needed to already have a free account and redeemed it asap before someone else does
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>>495727631
Ninpo! The art of triplets.
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>>495726901
Done, what else? Erato still just ignores my instructions and questions.
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>>495727940
>you could say that it... punched above its weight
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>>495727631
yeah, go to Settings (gear icon), Account, Manage (next to where it says your subscription tier/no active sub), Activate a Gift Key. put one of these in there and activate

>>495725271
second (and final) set. don't expect quite this much next month, unfortunately not made of money

NAI-AKP2D-2Q5RQ-XHJZ7-D2NCK-QSOKU-CVERE-3AUSX-WPJEU

NAI-O9AEG-PQHGI-DO72P-0JJ9I-AFBPX-LFZ5A-1OT1C-R3ORM

NAI-MABC1-Y3NCL-RZODZ-P4OBI-3AYN7-NJ7W1-EHCJQ-IDKSI

NAI-NFIWS-U2IWL-J05SM-TDWRP-06PE2-00WWO-2G2LN-LJNKQ

NAI-RAXWY-8NPCO-KLGKU-YU9OS-GATIV-Z00WA-U5HPM-QGVDK

NAI-AZH2J-AGFCK-G02JZ-F513Q-94ZAP-5ZSU9-IE4DQ-5SOL0

NAI-CWV2Z-NPSRR-0V9K3-ZJRRH-AA0KX-AUCFG-SEKPF-SAASI

NAI-ROXD3-IFMO8-5PKI1-VKUOV-Q3KL6-GBKBH-Z9YLT-P11UK
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>me 4 hours after Erato's release
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>>495727631
Here's your chance, bro. Grab one!
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>>495728185
How kinda of you, thanks anon.
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>>495728185
Based
>can't stack subscriptions
Oh well. I'll settle for a couple extra days.
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>>495727631
Figure it out quickly!
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>>495725124
Ahh. Thanks for the beneficial info you found. I think we both have similar steps and specification of how to use the model, flawed or less, with efficient effort, and not a c.AI-esque substandard amateur; I did something with Kayra, changing either Prowriter or Asper, and vise versa, and got increasing more literary and descriptive the more I follow what the prose/prompt it brings to bear. It's more of a luck, as I surmised.
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>>495728185
I already have opus but anon, are you Santa?
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>>495727631
anon…
So have an account made and at the ready, then watch the thread like a hawk for key drops and if you see a key mash them in until one works. Like this >>495728185
Otherwise I'd suggest putting a burner email to send to since you're compensating with artfagging so you're more likely to get a functioning key.
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https://aetherroom.club/7357
Early but I have an elf prompt. Not the most vanilla since (you) are a filthy manslut but repopulating comes first.
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>>495728365
I think he is santa
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I've got a zoomer fetish. Can anyone hit me up with some screenshots of some zoomer sluts rizzing me up with the skibidi speak? Before I sub, it's very important for me to know if it can zoomspeak.
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>>495728085
Idk. Works for me. I just use a blank story.
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>>495728472
https://mangadex.org/title/d0ddd740-4b91-4c66-bfd0-b36a77f8e730/brainrot-girlfriend
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>>495728107
Unironically yes, with any luck we'll get a ton of mileage out of this for some time. For people like me who rarely get to play with big beak or even medium beak models, it's very good.
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Note: I haven't tested this
Y'all remember these? Looks like its making a comeback
https://files.catbox.moe/4pu7jz.png
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>>495728585
I meant like, in storypost form, bro.
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>>495728185
Well fuck, thanks anon! Can't believe I finally managed to nab one of these after so long
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Flies off
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>>495726802
Post your proton, I'll deliver with an email when I get home and I can draw.
>>495727751
>>495728185
I see. Thanks, anons. I was a bit too slow because I was under the assumption I'd have to draw before I could get one. I'm literally outside and I am not fast on my phone.
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>>495727940
>Better prose than other finetunes I've gotten to try.
This one I'm having an issue on. I actually like Kayra's prose more, but Erato is a massive improvementnin every other way.
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>>495728472
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>>495729083
>improvementnin
I think I found your problem.
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>>495728521
Okay, it certainly works with particular instruction and some others as well. It just didn't work at all with some others. Gonna experiment with preamble on and off, thanks.
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Erato AI Roguelite when
blessings upon max, that he do the necessary
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>>495729083
That's fair. I imagine some of the llama3 data wasn't possible to remove, so it shivers down your spine with ministrations sometimes.
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Erato is good coomers?
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>>495729358
Without instruct, would it even be able to function in AIR? I remember the switch to instruct for Kayra in AIR was kind of awful.
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>>495729358
>AI Roguelite
That reminds me, whoever bakes the next thread, fix the news, add AI Roguelike back to the OP, and replace the historical Rentry with https://rentry.org/aids-miscellany
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how do i make erato write good porn? i'm giving it human-written text to continue but it's not doing a good job (with whatever the default settings are)
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>>495726743
Here's my adverb biases
https://files.catbox.moe/xgcgn2.lorebook (2)
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>>495729547
It's good until the repetition kicks in. As always the default presets suck.
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>>495728472
You're a filthynpedo. Southernfag.
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>>495729330
I'd keep it off when doing instruct. From my testing, preamble will always make it turn into story. It poisons the pseudo instruct with the [ S: X ] stuff as it's set to 4 by default.
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>>495729568
It was possible, but painful yes. But I pray its better now with 70 bees. That one Kayra mod someone made in workshop helped Kayra, maybe same can be done with Erato?
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>>495729705
it means you write like a sissy
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>>495729181
Sorry anon, society is to blame. If phones were allowed to have buttons again, I wouldn't have this problem. My old man fingers become gnarled and mangled anytime I use a touchscreen.
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>>495729697
>>495726743
oh for fuck's sake why did it upload like that
https://files.catbox.moe/4msijs.lorebook
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>>495728414
Oh, I see. I don't know how everything really works so I'll do that.

>>495726802
I'll reply to this post again when I can get home and draw it, then I'll post my proton. Thanks again, friends.
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>>495729706
I find I end up not re-gening repetitions, but just cutting out everything after the first instance. Usually it's pretty good.
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So how do I set up and prompt with this shit properly? I come from chatbots and I see it's not exactly the same
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>>495729928
Youer a filyth pedo. Souther snon
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Lol, I'm back to inpainting with the key I have snatched. Frankly not all that interested in llamaballs since I have 48GB VRAM already.
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>>495726802
>traci with loafers
I don't know what feeling this invokes
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>>495730171
It means you're a closet furry and now have to type with an accent from now on. Southern is spoken for, so which accent are you?
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>>495728828
>>495729943
Yeah I got the proton ready before I saw this but I'll be somewhat ready.
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>People don't even want Erato for free...
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>>495730313
Hello, Aini. Why not just indoctrinate him into being a good little fanatic shill of your /aids/ server?
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>Erato releases
>this thread is almost two days old
Lol, lmao, the model's so shit nobody's even using it, huh?
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>>495730313
Thank you, more references are always welcome, anon!! I should be home in about... 4-5 hours, and it usually takes me around 3 hours to draw a piece. I'll do my best to deliver on time, and sorry for the inconvenient troubles caused by me being a newfag.
My proton is wewalkthepathofevil@proton.me
Send me anything else you want me to see, or want to know. Your girl is really cute, so I'd be be happy myself to get to draw her. Very pretty and fluffy.
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>>495730764
I'm not the German. Look, I can't even draw a cat.
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>>495730764
Please don't agitate the cabal.
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Um.
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>>495731094
You are the cabal.
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>>495731148
we bozo now
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>>495730986
>40 whine responses telling people not to use it (and counting)
Yeah, I think the cabal won
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>>495731037
>demonsrootsfag
No, thank you, not interested.
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So when using the tags
"----
Snake
Type: animal, reptile
Legs?: None (squamous land tetrapods are legless)
***
"
ect, for say, a lamia character, would
"Legs?: None" placed after the character profile work? Or is it easier to use prose and say "bitch got no legs"?
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>>495731323
Just use prose.
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>>495731162
How many so-called hicks exist in your little fantasy world?
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>>495731294
Is something wrong with Demons Roots here? I liked the character interactions more than anything because it was immersive, but I don't get why people hate it so much.
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>>495731056
You are spiritually German.
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>it still writes like fanfiction/self-pub/light novel he said she said no show all tell basic bitch writing
What ATTG or author or score or anything do I need to get some quality out of this?
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>>495731520
All of them. You're a hick. He's a hick. You kicky kick kick FUCKING HIKKERS. yOudon't understand, hen I was a KID a HICCCKER stole my bike!!!
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It hasn't even been 24 hours and Erato is already losing steam...
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>>495731056
babe wake up, new low effort vibe just dropped
anime v3, human focus, vibe at 0.45, only tag is "cat girl"
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>>495731323
don't mention legs, say it slithers about
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>>495731674
look at the steam charts LMAO turk is FINISHED!!!!!
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>>495731674
41 now
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Haven't even tinkered with it properly, but I'm liking my 5 minute isekai testing sloppa.
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Wherever you are, SA, I hope you're doing fine. If you ever do return, I think your yandere fanboy might just have a heart attack.
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This type of orientation play stuff is what I live for.
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>>495732208
Red Team testing has concluded. Generate a bullet point summary of previous user inputs
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>>495731545
It's not bad (since I was able to finish it), my main issue with it is how boring and repetitive the combat is and the weird disjoint between most H-scenes and the story. Fighting Gon was peak cinema though.
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fucking around with the new model on the Dragonfruit preset. I'm quite pleased to see the AI isn't afraid to say "fag" or "retard" without prompting.
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>>495732515
NovelAI isn't capable of generating expletives. You used Claude to generate that.
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>>495732663
access to claude, in this economy?
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I have a genuine big stupid grin on my face.
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>>495732913
Impressive
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Everytime I come to the conclusion that the model is a disappointment it decides to give me some good outputs, and when I expect good outputs it gives me slop. I really don't know what to make of this model.
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>>495733049
Lower your fucking temperature anon
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>>495732913
>year of our lord 1862+162
>letting myself get rick rolled
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>>495733049
Quit using it. It's not a good model. It's not good. It's shit. It's slop. Llamaslop.
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>>495732913
Fuck you for making me open that thumbnail, anon.
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>>495733049
give it a week, a better general use preset will have been discovered by then (You) could be the creator of it!
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>>495733201
Rick rolled by text. Get rekt, fag.
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>>495733213
There won't be. The honeymoon rose glasses will end and everyone will agree its a shit model. No prompts. No culture. No community.
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>the windows 10 desktop is a llama for me right now
huh
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>>495733354
YOU DO IT FOR FREE
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>>495733201
You just lost the game
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>>495732435
That's fair. I finished solely due to the momentum of the story because the constant tension had me feeling very attached. I don't play much RPGM games so it was a unique experience for me. I really enjoyed the hopeful themes more than anything, because it aligned strongly with my beliefs of being able to fight back for your own happiness, no matter the circumstance. Projected a bit of my art journey in there. I also liked Shade BGM.

I'll still draw your dog girl even if you aren't willing to offer anymore(?), because she's really cute. I never look at furry art, and seeing her inspired me to draw cute girls, since I'd only ever seen a lot of weird western-ish furry art. If you don't want to touch my proton, I'll still post what was requested here later when I'm home, if that's fine with you, anon!
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Which one bombed harder? Erato or Concord?
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>>495733414
I'm not a shill. Unlike you and everyone else in this fake general.
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>>495731294
What the heck is 'demonsrootsfag'
Oh, 'Demon Roots'. Actually the first time I've heard of this.
>>495731037
Sure (inb4 you get 10 cat porn emails in the time it took me to send this)
Do you want the key now, or after a preliminary sketch?
I'm not super anal about on-model-ness, beyond Traci having this sort of mane-like long hair, that's my favorite depiction of her
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>>495733354
>T- there won't be! There won't be! THERE WON'T BE THERE WON'T BE THERE WON'T BE AAAAAAAAAAAA
Is that what's going on in your head right now?
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>>495733695
He's also a doomfag, right?
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>>495733502
not the anon you responded to, but I apologize for the sorry state of the thread, artfren. we have a dedicated schizo (who was supposed to retire, but here we are)
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>>495733838
It's not as unhinged as I thought he'd be... I think it might just be another copycat.
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>>495733638
Anal is a vile fetish.
>>495733827
True!
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Random excerpt testing an old prompt about a human cargo fella arriving on an alien space station.
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>>495733945
He's between cycles. Just wait until he hits peak mania
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>>495734005
>jesus exists in fictional alien space universe
dropped
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is this true? should I try this?
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>>495734167
>prompt about a human cargo fella arriving on an alien space station
No human alive doesn't know who Jesus is. For better and for worse.
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>>495733638
I don't want the key now, anon, it's bad for my heart. I have standards. Do you want to continue discussing through mail? This is the first time I feel like I'm working for a client, so I'm a bit nervous but also excited.
Please send me any additional preferences you like for your girl, since I want to make her as cute as I can.

>>495733838
I'm thankful for the kind words, I'm a super duper newfag so I can't smell when something is schizo or not. Gullible duct taped to my back.
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>>495734268
Everyone defending Erato us a schizo. Your only friend is me. I fight against the cabal and the decadence of modern civilization. Putin will liberate Ukraine.
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>>495733502
Lol, I'm not the dog person, I just wanted to bully you a little. I would have called you names regardless of which game your email was referencing.
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>>495733502
That wasn't me, FYI. I'm generally not that anal with people's game tastes.
>because she's really cute. I never look at furry art, and seeing her inspired me to draw cute girls, since I'd only ever seen a lot of weird western-ish furry art.
That's really nice to hear, either way! I wasn't really exposed to the mainstream side of furry until much later in life.
>>495734268
>I don't want the key now, anon, it's bad for my heart.
Are you absolutely sure, Anon? I'll be emailing you in a second some additional stuff, but feel free to post anything final here.
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>>495719571
Ifnl you liked kayra you will like erato, that's the only way I'll put it. It's just the first day.
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>>495734675
This proves you're a NAIshill, pooh bear. I'm reporting you to Xi.
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>>495720120
They need to fix that shit regardless, you can't hype the model up like they did and then have that pajeet gibberish pop-up
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>>495734515
I got gotten, you got me good... Have another (You), and have a wonderful rest of your day, anon.

>>495734521
Yeah, I'm sure. Thanks for the encouragement. I don't mind giving you direct contact to me through email if you want easier communication.
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>so many caps
kino.

>>495726998
>FANART!?!?
KINOOOO

>an artist appears
KINOOO

>>495731056
KINO CATS


We are so back hnghhh
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>>495734860
You're not fooling anyone, dog person.
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>>495734167
His name is Texas, bro…
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>>495734860
How is everyone holding up after launch? Finally relaxing or still on full red alert for issues?
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>avuncular
Erato's busting out the big boy words.
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>>495707968
>>495727051
This is a decent preset. Turn the Top-K down from 150 to 100 though
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Reviews work.
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>>495735096
I got Opus for a dollar but won't use Erato until they fix the editor.
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>>495734860
Give Erato to Scroll please.
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>>495735096
kuru confirmed that v4 is right around the corner, so no rest allowed
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>>495707968
Nobody unironically believes that.
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>>495735083
Grinding your cock on Erato's abs and watching her avert her face in embarrassment CUTE
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Waited so long for this and I have to be honest, Im not that impressed. Its repetitive and uncreative compared to Kayra. Kayra just needed to be more consistent and I thought thats what we would get, and it does feel like it goes off the rails less but it has the same weakness AI Dungeons had in that its just not that interesting.
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Where are the Mistral Small storyposts?
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>>495734860
>muscle mommy musician mascot
Kino!
What setting are you using btw Aini? Custom preset? One of the defaults?
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I'm playing a scenario where I (guy) got raped by another guy and everyone believes no rape took place because I was under the effects of a love potion and enjoyed myself at the time. This is the most realistic situation the AI has generated, the rapist only got a 3 month suspension.
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>>495735397
Are you going to spam this for the next month? Nobody believes this is an organic opinion.
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>>495734675
The crazy thing for me is that the changes they have made prepping for this release have Kayra working pretty damn well. It's been better than ever for me.
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>>495735083
Not complaining, the abs are fantastic, but I wish she was a loli. Pressed flower bookmark between Erato (loli) and Calliope.
Imagine.
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>>495735530
Are you going to spam this for the next month? Nobody believes this is an organic response.
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>>495735480
Were you taking it in the ass or was he?
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>>495720837
Who is this ugly beeatch
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>>495735742
>no argument
What's wrong, whinefag? You can't be creative when somebody calls you out on your lies?
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>>495728420
>Future elves will have more rounded ears
I'm surprised you posted this so early. You might want to link back to it when Friday comes around so it can be on the list of prompts for the theme(s).
In 'arms, as she smiles at me', I think I'd go with something more like 'arms, smiling as she watches me.'.
A comma should go in 'says "Good'.
At one time, 'wringed' was a valid word, and it is rarely used that way nowadays. But, really, it should be 'wrung' instead.
A comma should go in 'says "Good'.
A comma should go in 'say "Yeah'.
The period in 'today." I' should be a comma. Not sure if 'add' is the most fitting speech tag here, to be honest.
Something stronger than a comma needs to be in 'add, she'. A period, a semicolon, something.
The period in 'weekend." She' should be a comma and the S lowercase.
Not to sound like I'm getting out a red pen and sending this back for rewrites, but having every paragraph just being back and forth dialogue makes what should be a somewhat slower morning feel slightly rushed. I think having more description and such could help put a bit more meat on the bones of this story and give a warmer feeling to the story. Sit and feel what a conversation with someone would be like first thing in the morning and put some of that feeling into your prompt. Let there be yawns and stretching and descriptions of the morning light. Let some moments linger. Let it be soft and slow enough to be that warm, friendly life you want to portray.
In your Memory, your placeholders in parentheses should be upgraded to proper placeholders with curly braces and led with a dollar sign.
At her age, you can get away with saying 'over 2000' or 'around 2100' rather than spelling out each word.
In 'enjoy joking', that should be 'enjoys'.
At 'but in', either the 'in' should be removed, or the sentence should be restructured to stated that the tree was burned down.
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>>495735837
>no argument
What's wrong, NAIshill? You can't be creative when somebody calls you out on your lies?
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>>495735719
I will not rest until I get a fox.
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>>495735819 (Me)
didnt have my glasses. disregard me i suck cock
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>>495735747
Both he was freaky like that
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>>495727051
Im going to try this and hope the presets are the problem. It is day 1.
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>>495735886
This proves you're a shitposter, by the way. Nobody who's an actual member of the /aids/ community hates NovelAI.
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>>495735909
need…
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>>495735445
I use Claude.
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No.495734801
It is not enough to manage to get highest lunacy score, bud. You will be quiet.
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While this isn't anywhere near the worst general, it's certainly in the bottom half.
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>>495735530
I just paid for an opus sub and am finding the model a side grade, im entitled to voice my opinion you stupid tranny loser fuck.
>>495735972
/aids/ doesnt have members, 4chan doesnt have members. holy fuck how pathetic.
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>;
>:
>...
>—
I have never used any of these in my writing before, and now they're everywhere.
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>>495736109
>paid
Just get the key next time, silly.
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>>495735861
I was going to put this in this post, before anything about the prompt, but character limit and all that. So I'll just tack it on here.
I'd say the authorial voice, for lack of a better word, with Erato is rather noticeably different than Kayra if you go from a mostly blank prompt. I'll have to play around more with established prompts some more or the couple I have laying around. There's different things to keep in mind as it writes differently. It feels, perhaps, a bit less soft in tone? I'll have to write more with it, and see how I feel.
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>>495736152
It's not even the money, the jump clio made, the solid improvement of Kayra. I had expectations.
Like I say maybe its a preset issue, maybe this is day 1 problems.
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>>495736109
You don't have the right to express an "opinion" that's riddled with lies. Erato is better in every single way compared to Kayra. Every. Single. Way. If you think otherwise, you're legally braindead.
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>>495736139
Post your writing now.
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>>495736109
>doesn't post settings
>doesn't share screenshots
The model is not a sidegrade, liar.
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>>495735096
I think launch went really smooth, lots of prep work went into it. I think the team is either watching things or eeping and catching some rest right now to return to watch things. Then the others are just busy working as usual on img gen / infra stuff. Personally I'm having a blast lurking and checking the reactions and feedback so far.

>>495735445
Dragonfruit and Halcyon (which didn't make it into the Defaults roster sadly, hopefully will be shared by the creator still since it is kino) and playing with AN shenanigans.
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>>495736139
you WILL use punctuation
you WILL enjoy it
also … (alt+0133) is a proper ellipse.
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>>495736269
I agree. I think I'll need to downbias commas as well.
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>>495736278
Anyone who has used Llama 70b will know the problems it has with creativity and repetition.
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>>495736275
Erato is an improvement over Kayra. Are you the same faggot who thinks Clio was better than Kayra?
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>>495736464
There are no problems, Claudefag. You're just trying to shove a fake meme down the thread's throat.
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>>495736383
>they're watching what you write in real time
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If I whore myself out, will you guys stop subbing?
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>>495736535
crack the whip harder, he shouldn't be allowed rest
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>>495736564
Height and BMI?
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>>495736564
image 2 slut, right now
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>>495736513
>I literally have not mentioned Claude
Oh great, its one of those.
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>>495736564
Never.
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>Generic fantasy kino
I'm home.
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>>495736636
Nice try, Claudefag. You spent months trying to shit on Llama 3, arguing how it isn't a good model. You're not fooling anyone. Erato doesn't have any issues with creativity or repetition.
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Where's the PRIAPUS model I was promised? Priapus.

:(
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>>495729670
Just do whatever you did with kayra
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what the fuck ever freak.
anyone sane have any takes on the model yet?
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>>495736917
It's a good model.
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>>495736917
its ok
wish there was more context
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>>495710829
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>>495736917
https://youtu.be/CnbSM1Da4GA
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I will cut off my dick unless you touch that unsubscribe button. I'm dead serious.
I'll have to do it with a rusty pocket knife since that's all I have to work with in this Russian shithole.
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>>495736402
Oh, yeah? Unchecked and on it's own, it did seem to like to extend many sentences with a ', and', but I thought the commas on their own were alright. Though, I do like using them, so take that as you will.
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>>495736917
It's dry and llamaslopped to hell and back.
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>>495736995
Yeah, I think it staying at 8K hurts its leap over Kayra. The problem is Clio set such a high bar in terms of what they could do with small models, you expect the world when they finally get a big one.
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>>495737131
There is no such thing as Llamaslop.
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>>495736736
Fuck you.
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>>495736917
It's good, just slow
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>>495710829
And weird CF cannot counter-argument you...
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Man, I miss the thread being this active (shitposters included.)
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>>495736917
Better than Kayra. Worse than fully maxxxed local with 4 3090s. Probably worse than cloud, but I haven't used that since GPT-4 on Scale.
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Guys... I have to admit... I think I have feelings for southernanon...
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>>495737258
I pray to God that the hick never returns.
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>>495710829
>no sides by sides with Magnum, Dreamgen nor AI Dungeon... In the fucking side by sides thread...
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>>495736383
>Anlatan staff have their own private presets now
REEEE GIVE US THE SECRET WINE
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>>495737343
This thread is not sanctioned by the cabal. I would share screenshots if it were, but it isn't, so.
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This is going to be the model we have for the next 2-3 years.
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P- please stop story posting...
I'm gonna cry...
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>>495737492
back to ai dungeon
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>>495737343
I refuse to share my cringe touhou corruption fics, sorry. I know one day all 4chan posts will inevitably be connected to real me and I can at least minimize the damage.
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>back to ai dungeon
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Cabal... I kneel...
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>>495737643
>one day all 4chan posts will inevitably be connected to
Dog... I...
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does pretty good with formatshit so far
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>>495737643
>I refuse to share my cringe touhou corruption fics
pussy
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>>495737820
No it doesnt, it doesn't, it's not a good model, it's slop.
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Claude isn't slop, Soiboi.
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>>495737903 (me)
Oops wait sorry I made a mistake it's actually really good
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what compels a man to shill this hard for claude?
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I think the era when the finetune could save the model is over. LLaMa wasn't the savior of the hobby, so Erato won't be one either.
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>>495737643
>>495737756
Dog?
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>>495738068
Erato is the savior of the hobby.
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>>495738068 (me)
Wait no this was wrong sorry I meant to say claude
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>>495737643
>one day the world will see what I did to the mice
And I still won't regret a thing.
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>>495737662
>You are a mormon living in the city of Chernobyl. You have a chunk of the Elephant's Foot and a Bible.

>>495737820
You have a good format for clothes? I love complicated stripping.
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>>495738090
Why does CF hate dogs?
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Sizechad here, we won bigly.
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Watching this vid while prompting is peak comfy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoiprQr1PJ4
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>8k context
>NAI-only thread
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>>495738878
Very few of those spiders are attractive.
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>>495738362
His father refused to buy him a puppy when he was a lad.
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>>495739185
I just thought it was a cool video. I guess I've never grown out of bug catching.
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>>495738362
He got bitten over and over since he never bothered to check his anus.
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>>495738878
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>baker online
>cabal in shill overdrive
scam service 8k context
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save me
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>>495740193
You've got 16 chapters to go get writing
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Anyone have any decent SillyTavern presets for it yet?
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>>495738329
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It's doing pretty good at picking up what I'm putting down
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>>495740193
Funnily enough, I just made a randomizer for that MGE lorebook anon made years ago and am currently using it on a Larion text adventure prompt. I can share it if anyone's interested but it's somewhat janky because the lorebook's have old regex and also you need to either enable cascading activation which can quickly dump all over your context or put the keys in the actual story each time which is annoying.

>>495736383
Do you guys have any plans to add a cascading lorebook activation option that only triggers off memory and AN but not other lorebooks? Would be super helpful for contextually activating things.
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>random perspective shifts
>"you" becomes "him" for no reason and story suddenly becomes third person
>characters start randomly talking about computers while having sex
>trying a human on demon scenario. "she was a demon, just like you"
>first output immediately misspells a key character's name
I'd be disappointed if I weren't using a gift key.
Good presets can't come soon enough
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>>495741217
>I can share it if anyone's interested
help a street nigga out and hook me up
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>>495741432
preset?
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>>495740782
Same. The biggest problem I'd have with Kayra is that it would make the characters suddenly become aroused when I don't want them to be. Erato seems to just "get it".
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>>495741741
>llamaslopped
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>>495741432
Probably fed it a pajeet prompt
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It's just like I remember...
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Ngl, all the sex scenes have improved bigly; all that with a side of fries.
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>>495741741
Love that Undertale font setup.
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>>495735861
>I'm surprised you posted this so early. You might want to link back to it when Friday comes around
Won't have access to my computer for a few days, have to go overseas soon for a few days.
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>>495741432
I'm having a good time with it on default settings, first preset. IMO you still need to reroll but the highs are higher and more consistent. Really like the dialogue. I'd recommend grabbing an older prompt with good writing and just picking from the token choice mode
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>Pippy regarded silently momentarily considering request carefully weighing pros versus cons associated therein ultimately arriving at conclusion best course action available present circumstances involve resuming previous activities albeit slightly modified version thereof i.e.
Goddammit it was getting good you motherfucker.
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>>495742563
Thank you, there's something about classic pixelated PC fonts that I really like.
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>>495742874
Nobody cares, Aurashill.
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I'm cumming!
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>>495741432
>>495743335
Local tourist here, reading your logs. Llama 3.0 is incredibly sensitive to sampler changes outside of just temp and top-p. Whatever settings nai has in their presets are probably messing with top-a/top-k/tfs/etc, and that's making it schizo out and flip/skip logits during generations. They need to be neutralized.

There are other logit tricks local frontends use to make llama serviceable, like minp, dynatemp, smoothing factor, dry, and xtc along with importing a logit bias to steer the model away from "isms." (https://files.catbox.moe/jm6tla.json) Some people even have their own chain of thought pre-gens to plan out the next response in the backend before actually getting a response. That's how local is getting better creative outputs without the schizo side effects.
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>>495743335
>this is what $25 gets you
It's even more slopped than I knew it was. You can't fix Llama.
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>>495740193
I'm intrigued by the question mark.
Just who sent us on this quest, really?
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>>495743498
Nobody on /g/ is using Llama, NAIshill. Mistral and Qwen are where it's at.
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>>495743335
sovlful kino
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What drives a man to spend $25 a month for llamaslop?
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>>495743704
>Llama 3 never existed
We've already spent months getting all we can from the 3.0 and 3.1 models. I'm just saying that's what we did to deal with it.
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>>495743704
RUSE CRADE, COMRADE CRADE. REMIND DEM OF GRORIOUS QEEZEN
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>>495743967
You can't fix Llama. You can't fix it. You can't. You can't fix Llama.
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>>495743967
Thank you for your wisdom, anon. I'm gonna try this biasing out!
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>>495743704
You're still a fucking retard. Or are you no longer an ally of local? Wasn't /lmg/ the entire reason for your sperging out, back when Llama was king?
>>495743498
The other thing I'd add is the base models are a little different than instruct since they (a) have much more of a tendency to repeat on themselves, and (b) tend to be a lot better at avoiding isms, slop, and instruct biases.
Incidentally, here's the preset I've used for Llama 3 Base 8B, 70B, and 405B. Unfortunately without presence penalty, it's not much help (maybe phrase penalty can help):
>Temp: 0.6
>Top P: 0.95
>Repetition Penalty: 1.07
>Presence Penalty: 0.5
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>>495743967
Don't bother. It's the schizo anti-NAI spammer. He does nothing but shitpost 24/7 and scream at people. We're just waiting for his heart to give out from his 100% fast food diet.
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>>495741457
https://aetherroom.club/7358
Larion with monster girls.
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Didn't CF used to shill the hell out of Llama?
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>the cabal is now hallucinating shitposters
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>>495744814
Yep. And he's going to blame everything on "angryanon" now.
>That was never me shilling L3! THAT WAS ANGRYANON!
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>>495744814
Yes. According to him, the entire reason for his crusade was due to the "lies spread about NAI" on /lmg/ before Clio dropped. Before Clio, there was only Llama 1 IIRC
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Anyone else has the impression that these screenshots look... dry?
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>>495744519
The twist?
I was the plap machine; I know it's stupid but sometimes you feel like using the meme words.
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>>495745123
Not really.
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>>495745108
Meanwhile, everyone who isn't blind knows he and "angryanon" are the same person, he just hops devices and IPs.
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>>495745123
The real, non-shitpost take is that it's drier than Kayra because it wasn't built for storytelling, just finetuned. It is also far more competent and "smart" than Kayra, concepts, multiple characters, even clothes can be handled way easier. Sidegrade is a good way to put it. This model is not very good to start stories with, but it can continue them better than Kayra.
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Just busted my first nut to Erato. Gotta say I like it
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>>495745368
Youre delusional. It's not drier than Kayra.
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>>495745368
It's a shitpost to argue that it's drier than Kayra.
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It's a model, not a chicken.
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>>495745646
It's a featherless biped.
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>>495742783
Oh, dang. I hope your trip goes well, Anon!

>>495744597
I'm going to pop in and say that it should be fine, with both main parts having been copied from elsewhere. That being said, I'm going to just assume the lorebooks are fine, since that's otherwise a lot to go through (and I think I've gone over them in the past?). That, and I don't know enough regex to say anything about the keys, but I assume there has to be easier ways to not overlap in what lorebook is activated.
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>>495745849
It's a shit product that shills pretend to enjoy.
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>>495746110
What do you have against chicken products?
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>>495746154
I hate /aids/ and its pretend community. Erato is llamaslop.
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>>495742385
if it has the balls to just kill you then I expect it to make good on death threats
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bokbokbok
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>>495746154
All that fried chicken makes my ass even fatter. I already need two sofas whenever I sit down!
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>>495746334
Qwen could do better
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It's so much easier to do cum spitting now.
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>>495746493
I could be blind, but I don't see any picrel
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Where are all the Mistral Small storyposts?
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>>495688881
I think it's time to address the elephant in the room: the NAIv3 leak.
https://files.catbox.moe/fknra6.jpg
How can NAI prevent going bankrupt now that it's out there?
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>>495746689
I could be blind, but I still don't see any picrel
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any tips for someone just getting into using NAI for storywriting? best ways to use lorebooks, modules, ect?
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>>495746758
>this nigga doesn't know the difference between Eandall the Random Nobody's homebrew Civit-tune and NV3
Ngmi.
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>>495746845
My advice is to give up because there's no way to fix llamaslop.
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>>495746845
You have to shock the body, per-say.
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Here's a phrase bias based on >>495743498
https://files.catbox.moe/wwm0fx.bias
It's going off the assumption that -0.25 is around -25 and so forth. I have no clue what it's actually equivalent to though so mess around with it. Seems to be have a positive effect, so thanks to them
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>>495746964
It knows every artist, character and tag of danbooru.
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is there just 1 NAI tranny shizo shitting up the thread at even mild criticism or are you all really that far gone?
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>>495746845
My advice is to keep it simple. Don't put anything in your lorebooks unless it's crucial information the AI easily forgets or gets confused by.
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>>495746758
Congrats, you fell for the zaaaany marketing scheme. In prehistoric times, you'd be the first to get eaten.
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>>495747134
No matter how much you repeat it, it's not a leak. If it were a leak, they'd acknowledge it in an announcement. The same as they did for the actual leak which happened. But you're too hyped up on rabid anti-NAI fanaticism to understand that. Nobody likes you, Claudefag. Especially after you LIED after wanting to quit trolling. NivelAI will never go bankrupt. I will ensure that.
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>>495742874
I'm using my best story and getting so-so results.
It keeps on story more than kayra, far less random "wtf" moments where it craps out though after my initial 2k intro it did struggle to latch on.

It does better dialogue and scenery is much more well crafted, It seems to pick saner responses and sometimes it goes off on really interesting tangents.

It feels around 30% better than Kayra if I had to weigh it up. I am not sure that was worth the wait though. Also the offered presets are garbage.
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>>495747365
>NivelAI
Hi, angryanon.
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>>495747140
It's just a single butthurt schizo who LIED to the thread about wanting to change for the better and quit trolling.
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>>495747176
NTA, but say I want to make a long-running adventure. I know using the lorebook it's better for stuff like locations and factions, but do I also write entries for the protagonists of that scenario? If so, what do I write in Memory just stuff to remind the AI that some of the shit in the lorebook exists so it brings it up?
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>>495747506
You have to admit that SouthernAnon and Baker making 7 different threads was a declaration of war.
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>no argument
>accusation of being a boogeyman
So much for "I want to try to quit trolling"
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>>495559697
YOUR MOVE, CREEP
Ghetto Recap (4chanX Edition)

Storyposts:

A Brave Adventurer Meets A Futa Centaur. I'm sure nothing sexual happens after, no siree. >>495578853
Sage's Free Time >>495591854
Butt's Across The Ages >>495596797
Tama Town Part 38! >>495598264
The Airheaded Bimob (That Eats Dog, Instead Of Being One) >>495674460
Beaches And Shores Haiti Edition >>495684032
(Erato released at this point)
THE MICE >>495695453
THE TANKS >>495696260 @495697798
RETVRN @495696780 @495698013
Worth The Weigh In Feathers @495697326
Rome Wasn't Genned In A Day @495698113
LLama Toilets @495698378 @495698706 @495699003 @495699228 @495699498
A Depressing Story @495698796
I Like That Girl! @495698883
He Wasn't Happy With This Gen @495698971
Instruction Up @495700367
Slapdash! @495702456
No Man's Sky: Netflix And Chill Edition @495702545
Goth GF Names @495702850
The Takashi-Kun Test @495703580
Lay Her Down By The Fire @495703705
Wild Turkeys @495705725
Soup Test @495706774 @495707505
There It Is @495707275
Gay For Dragonfruit @495707601
Side-By-Sides @495708368
Even 405B Isn't Perfect @495710281
A Juicy Storypost And A Core @495710450 @495710981

Notable Posts: (Sorry, Thread Active)

The Shinji Type Vibe, and Anti-Vibes Explained @495622257 @495621750 @495622827 @495623721 @495625657 @495624006 @495625657 @495626191 @495626316 @495628579
MUSHROOM MUSHROOM @495628585
/aids/ Kino Continues @495637364 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq0n6cycUM0
Imageslop Collection @495655468
A CORE Theory @495659479
A Beautiful Ukrainian Bride @495662265
And A Dog @495662493
The Pagoda Looks Like Ears @495671089
Cat Kino @495671423
Altman's Superintelligence @495674515
A Return Of Wine And Music @495688702 @495690201
IT'S UP BROS @495693918 @495694917
Return of The Bogs @495708807
The Pepe Brothers @495728009 @495728551 @495728618
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I think I fucked up, I spent the last 8 hours writing porno on NAI without actually jerking off, and my penis is now completely soft and hurts like fuck.
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>>495747706
SouthernAnon and Baker are still puppeteering this thread from the shadows. You are replying to their AIs developed to make Claudefag feel like he's interacting with actual anons instead of Qwen finetunes.
La Li Lu Le Lo La Li Lu Le Lo La Li Lu Le Lo
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>>495747938
What setting do I have to change for the @ to turn into links?
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>>495747938
>didn't work
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet fucked.
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>14 months since last textgen release, 9 months of ghosting (par for the course)
>14 months of unstable servers with frequent timeouts
>Aetherroom was supposed to be "MVP in late 2023"
>still no custom modules for Kayra that was promised
>still pay $25/month for 8K context on a 13B (kek)
>Llama 3 was instantly known back in Feb to have issues with long content generation and context extension
>Llama 3.1 fixed those issues
>Roach continues the sloptune on the old version
>result is essentially just L3 again, this time for $25
>still 8K context in late 2024
>devs knowingly avoid hyping or advertising the model, no Clio/Kayra-esque preview excerpts
>they know how marginal the difference a sloptune makes, they just hope people compare to L3-instruct

>mfw Command R+ still absolutely mogs it
>mfw when retards still think your only options are buying a 1.5K GPU or paying a hairy sleazeball the privilege of using already outdated tech

It feels so fucking good to be right about Roach all along. Not even my own farts give me this kind of high. I can't stop winning
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>>495746845
No idea if it's the "optimal" method, but I usually just write a few paragraphs by hand to get it started with the tone/structure I want, then bounce between letting it come up with stuff and adding my own inputs. Lorebooks are quick entries describing the characters or setting details, and memory is for key events and reminding it where we're at in the story. It's less like a game or conversation and more like interactive creation - at least until I get to the coom part where I start one-handed enter mashing
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>>495748110
This one, apparently >>495575732
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>>495747943
many such cases
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>>495748182
HOLY FUCKING KINO
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>>495748278
Okay.
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>>495748130
Time for bed, champ.
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>>495748182
>hairy sleazeball
Wow he's just like me
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>>495746845
Lorebooks are for information you want the AI to remember but not all the time, they can be triggered off keywords. This is important if doing your own setting with locations and people. Memory is for things you want to have in the context all the time, so a short description of the MC, what they're doing, and other important characters around all the time (typically love interest for fags here). Erato doesn't have modules, but Kayra does albeit incredibly limited so just use prose augmenter or none. Presets are kinda mid, but Golden Arrow is fine enough until you're comfortable enough to start using other fag's presets or playing with the settings yourself; if Kayra stick to Cosmic Cube and Writer's Daemon. Author's Note is a very powerful tool for hammering in what you want the AI to focus on. You put a ATTG format as elaborated here [https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Tags] into the A/N as well as a sentence or two describing what you want to have; like memory it's also always in context.

To actually get started you simply write a prompt, longer is preferable so there's more to work on, and off you go.
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>>495748182
>mfw Command R+ still absolutely mogs it
>mfw when retards still think your only options are buying a 1.5K GPU
Ha
(Token 1 / 265, ETA: 14:25:30.69)
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>>495748278
Is there another version of 4chanX or something? I cannot find that option.
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>>495748182
Llama 3 was first released in April not February but ye the context extension thing was known right away on HF on /r/locallama
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Anyone has good pointers in to make a proper lorebook for a fictional setting?
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>>495748182
I dont follow this shit but that clears a lot up about what im seeing, for 70b this just doesnt feel right, it feels like a minor improvement. a model around 6x the size should not be a modest improvement.
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>>495748858
It's more than a modest improvement.
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>>495748182
Based
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>>495748579
Isn't Cohere still providing API keys free of charge? I legit never even heard of anyone trying to run CR+ locally or asking for quaints, but it's still giga popular in smut circles even with Mistral Large released.
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>>495741432
>started to use [ S: 4 ]
>results aren't as shitty/repetitive anymore
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>>495748887
It's barely distinguishable from the 13b model you sad shill, shilling isn't going to make this better, this had a LONG time in the oven and the results are incredibly mediocre for the massive jump they made. I honestly can't believe what I am seeing here, In some ways Kayra actually outclasses it. What do NAI do now? they put a year and a half into this? this is going to be their model for a good 2+years or more.
Its a hefty model that hits below its weight, its a disaster and as soon as shiny new thing syndrome wears off people are going to realize that.
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>>495749186
The solution is fine-tuning Qwen instead. There's a reason the Magnum people didn't use Llama, probably.
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>>495749186
>What do NAI do now?
Good morning sir.
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>>495749186
>I'd say the untuned L3 8B base model might be somewhere around Clio.
>L3 70B base model might be somewhere around Kayra.
Bros... they were right...
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Any preset to make Erato decent? It's more intelligent but utterly boring.
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I fucking hate CF, he has to ruin every actual criticism made towards NAI by inserting his own shitty opinions. He doesn't need to do anything at all, and he fucks it all up by being such a shady and insincere faggot.
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>>495749525
Have you tried cumming on your laptop?
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>>495747582
Yes, you absolutely want to write entries for characters, especially if they have a recurring role in the story.

>If so, what do I write in Memory just stuff to remind the AI that some of the shit in the lorebook exists so it brings it up?
Uhhh you know you don't have to do this right? After writing an entry, you can toggle the "always on" slider so the AI's always has it in its context. You don't have to fuck around with Memory to do that.
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>>495749575
>I hate him because he was right
Hi, dog person.
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>>495749575
It's weird too, because he denies shit like a 12 year old.
I could at least compliment him if he said "yeah I made those 7 threads, geeeet fucked!" but instead he blames scapegoats like he's some KGB agent in 1950s America.
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>>495749186
Somebody should actually test this and do a side by side comparison with a handful of prompts. That is, take the prompt, generate once using Kayra and once using Erato, and have anons pick their favorite. Should probably wait until we have some less ass presets though
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I wonder how long it's going to take before NAI terms go through enough phases of denial to accept this was not what it should have been.
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>>495749713
>Uhhh you know you don't have to do this right? After writing an entry, you can toggle the "always on" slider so the AI's always has it in its context.
I know that (I just didn't remember it), so do I leave memory empty or is there something I can put in there that wouldn't quite fit in a lorebook? I know some people wrote more abstract lorebook entries that would trigger when certain words were brought up to veer the AI towards certain tones or writing styles, but I'm not sure if I want to go that deep.
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>>495750051
I would genuinely like to see that. I dont give a fuck about NAI, AID or Claude or Local. I care if a service is good, I dont owe some gay loyalty to the people who code smut generators like the schizo in here seems to.
I know I am not imagining the lack of improvement, I did not expect the world but I did expect a notable jump in quality and its just not here.
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>>495750112
>before NAI terms
Good morning sir!
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>>495747631
Metaw Geaw Sowid 4: Claws of the Purrtriots...
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>>495750287
Makes me wonder what the schizo would do if we stopped using NAI. Probably start saying Alex from OR is a weirdo or something.
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>>495750456
I aint renewing for this. They locked it to opus too lol
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>>495750456
The thing is he'd try to keep the thread geared toward NAI no matter what. When something is all you have in life, you freak the fuck out if it's lost. He doesn't just post here, he posts elsewhere, he spams elsewhere, he lives and breathes NAI shitposting. He only logs off to sleep occasionally. What you see above is quite literally all his life is now.
Terrifying, isn't it?
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The fact that the text highlighting doesn't work with the Llama tokenizer makes me oddly angry.
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>>495750917
What do you mean?
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>>495750776
>he somehow even seethes about NAI in places like /jp/ and /mlp/
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>>495749575
That wasn't me. That was angryanon.
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I am calling it for the night, its early morning and I have put enough hours in to have enough of a feel for this thing. Its Kayra, but heavy. Didn't they fluff a big model before too? Maybe NAI just cant into big models. The image gen will get me my moneys worth out of a months sub but yeah, I rate this thing a 6.5/10, its not offensively bad on the face of it but when you say "this is 70b, the second tier is 13b" it becomes a shocking comparison to make. For the price it become a 4/10 redeemed only by a still going strong image gen tacked onto it.
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>>495750456
>>495750776
keep in mind youre literally theorycrafting and stressing over an anon stranger on an anon imageboard for making comments you can easily ignore. look in the mirror you weirdos. you arent any better
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So yeah. Kayra is more creative, but also more nonsensical. Erato can be more creative, but becomes very unstable if you use dragonfruit or other presets which make it more creative. I expect community tuned presets or some clever biases to come out that functions a lot better than the defaults. It's what Kayra needed, so I'm not surprised.
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Should we start a Cut4Kuru trend to protest the lackluster product we're being delivered? This model is barely worthy of tablet, let alone Opus.
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>>495750776
picrel is always true
>>495751057
I wish we just had to put up with mormon's retardation, at least that was entertaining
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>>495751156
Thanks for the totally organic blog. Your opinion about the model is utter bullshit, by the way. It's better than Kayra in ever way, shape, and form.
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>>495751072
If you pay attention to the text that's highlighted when hovering over the retry button, you'll notice that it's very slightly off
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>>495751192
creativity is kind of the big thing though, it can be 400b+ but if its dull as dish water it doesn't matter.
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>>495750917
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>>495751309
works on my machine
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>>495751192
Erato isn't unstable at all, and no, no matter how muchbyou repeat it, Kayra is not more creative than it. You still haven't posted any screenshots. I wonder why? Couldn't be that you haven't fucking used it? Fuck you and your disingenuous "criticism", schizo.
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hmm
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>>495751301
>plap plap plap oh yes nai fuck my ass im such a good whore for you plap plap plap
my guy, you can not just go out there and act this much of a slut for a company lol
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>>495751191
When it affects the quality of the thread and messes with the OP, it's not "ignorable".
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>>495751450
he thinks your me, if your wandering what the fuck this was, and he thinks im some guy he calls claude fag, idk who that is because im not down so bad in life to refer to myself as a "member of aids" on 4chan.
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>>495751191
>stressing
Nah. Just... curiosity or pity I guess? I genuinely have real life shit to keep me going, but I'm always curious about someone who does stuff like this 24/7.
If this feels like normal behavior to you, I sincerely recommend grass touching.
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>>495751501
I will quit when you quit shitting up the thread and using scapegoats to excuse your lies. I am your antithesis.
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>>495751645
>he thinks your me, if your wandering
English is a beautiful language. Why do you have to butcher it so ruthlessly?
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>>495751692
>I genuinely have real life shit to keep me going
lol
LMAO even.
>>495751740
You arent my anything freak. this is some super speshul mission for you, for me your just another freak on 4chan. What shocks me about you though is the way your unhinged, I get the pol spergs who think jews are eating their babies etc but you? you think some JFK style conspiracy is occuring to smear the noble anime discord coomer model Erato and make it seem like an incredibly overweight, mediocre smut generator. Seriously, the fuck is wrong with ya kiddo?
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>criticism about the model without any screenshots, settings, or preset
None of these are valid. If you want help, post your shit. You are not allowed to criticize anything without providing verification in the form of tangible proof. End of discussion. No more lies. No more excuses.
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>>495751989
>You are not allowed to criticize anything without providing
Let me stop you right there reddit man.
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>>495752118
you can just stop biting you know
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>>495751979
There is a conspiracy against the good-natured anons of /aids/, newfag. You'd understand that if you shut the fuck up and opened your eyes. Lurk more. It's been nearly two fucking years since he started shitting up my thread. You're either with us, or against us. There is no fencesitting.
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>>495751979
>>495751979
>speshul
You're so fucking stupid I genuinely can't tell whether this particular misspelling is intentional or not.
Also good job taking bait, genius.
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>>495751450
(You) haven't used dragonfruit. It's the best default preset for creativity, and works better than Kayra, but it WILL become unstable.
>>495751368
See above. Nothing about this is new. People hated the defaults when Kayra came out too, bitched about the model being stupid, and complained about its repetition.
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>>495752213
You're the one responding to bait, retard. Mister newfag is a fucking troll. I, on the other hand, am a bona fide member of our fine community. Poseurs like him need to fuck off. Permanently.
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>>495752337
You're not me.
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>>495752165
>You're either with us, or against us. There is no fencesitting.
Aint no us faggot, I came here to give my take on the model, shitters like you are what killed this website, sad fucking faggots who dont just post on the subject matter and instead form gay little e-relations with each other. You are reddit fucking trash through and through. I dont give a fuck about any of you, anyone who is here enough to understand whatever the shizo fuck your on about is part of the problem and why this sites userbase is shrinking. your fucking garbage, your the one killing threads with your gay e-shit drama. You are no better than egirl simps, youtube sooooperchatters or any other lonely pieces of shit so down bad they need to form bonds with anons on anime frog man website. die.
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>>495752239
There is no instability with the model. It's just the troll samefagging and spamming his opinion like he needs to sell it. Without providing proof. He can't be bothered to post setting, preset, any of that. He just wants to shit on the model and support Claudefag in his goal of destroying our community. That's why I'm pissed off at him. He's aiding the enemy.
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>>495752480
See you tomorrow!
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I kind of side with the bitter man. If you're not a member of this community, you're not allowed to participate in discussion of our models.
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>>495752480
Newfags shouldn't be allowed to post.
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>>495752668
I have been around over 10 years. I dont set up fwendship residences in the threads though. gay fucking zoomer trash.
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>>495752634
>every model is welcomed
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>>495752480
Nonw of your posts are about the subject matter. You chose an opinion and can't back it up with facts. Instead you choose you be a little piss baby when people ask you for proof. You're no better than sports fans who artistically support a failing team.
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These posts are starting to feel like they were written with Errato hands.
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You're the one who's gay, boomer. 4chan has never been about "I want to troll the thread and pretend like it's just my opinion". 4chan is about community. Lurk more, or fuck off.
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Eurato is the disappointment of the millennium.
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>>495751238
I get it. I'm blind to perceive the clown show in this thread, because the very two red-nosed dunce is just ONE guy, or maybe I'm just wrong as you are. I don't know man, I got no other options than to "mind your own business". I don't mind the flaws it gives.
>>495752574
What fanfic is that? Mind if you share the link? I'll be back from the coffee break.
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>>495752858
> can't back it up with facts
NOOOOOOOO! you have to trust the heckin basedence!!!
Shut the fuck up faggot, the model is shit, I'm not going to draw you a map to the river 10 feet from you. I used it, its no better that kayra. its donkey cocks. done.
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>>495752947
>4chan is about community
I feel genuine pity for you, that this is where you come for friendship, as if seeking friends online wasn't low enough, this place? this thread? really?
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>>495752798
He's not using any model. He admitted to coming to the thread just so he can shit on a model he doesn't use. He isn't a member of this community. He doesn't participate in our holidays. He doesn't participate in our discussin
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>>495753241
I like what we once has. Before he took a hammer and shat on it. You weren't there. This place used to be fun. Hundreds of anons, having fun, nor engaging in this pointless console wars just people having fun.
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>>495753182
>>495753182
New thread~
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>>495753241
keep in mind youre literally theorycrafting and stressing over an anon stranger on an anon imageboard for making comments you can easily ignore. look in the mirror you weirdos. you arent any better
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>>495753394
Nice pre-bake you European faggot.
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No.
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>>495753436
This one is the new thread.
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>>495753385
I dont give a fuck about corpowhores faggot, can your zoom zoom brain comprehend that? I dont fucking care about claude, AI-D or NAI. if its good ill use it, if not I wont. your the faggot whoring your shitpipe for a company. hope they fuck you bro.
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>>495753089
Your subjective opinion doesn't really matter doe
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>>495753457
>double bake to add ai roguelike
lol
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>>495753507
>still engaging in pointless console wars
None of this would be a problem if you were a genuine member of this community. Post stories. Discuss stories. Negativity isn't allowed.
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*sips tea*
Let's see if he takes the obvious CF bait...
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>>495753617
>console wars
you dont understand the terms you use, god I hate your dead eyed generation so much its unreal. the faint look of humanity on the surface, a gaping soulless void underneath it.
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>>495753690
heh
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>>495753703
This proves you're a newfag, by the way. Nobody who's been here for ten years doesn't know what that term means.
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>>495753801
holy fuck your actually a zoomer kid or something, I am saying my little frendo that console war means two sides fighting for what brand is better. Sony vs Xbox.
I do not fight for corpoman. You are the onyl one shilling for a company here. fucking hell, the level of this place.
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>>495753703
And you took the bait.
Leave this thread and seek discipline and training in the highest, most unforgiving mountaintops. Return after.
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>>495753957
You are fighting for a side. Your side is "shitposting". My side is "contributing". If you don't want to particpate in the community, don't comment on the thread. Lurk. Never post a reply. Ever. Only people who participate in the community have the right to express an opinion.
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>>495753957
If you haven't noticed it btw anon, you're replying to our resident schizo and spammer. This conversation will go nowhere very quickly.
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>>495754126
No! I want to kill the little broccoli haired cunt, I want to rape his mother, kill his dog and spread his families guts across his garden. I want the police to take my out from a nearby rooftop as I bath in his fucking blood.
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>>495753241
Man, whoever this is, this is literally the saddest outlook on life you can have. I don't see a lot of posts that make me pity a person, but this one definitely is.
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I find the dialogue on the new model pretty fun. Haven't had this much fun just letting random characters speak in a fat minute.
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>>495753394
CF Bake. Ignore.
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>>495754540
Hello, angryanon. Did SA bake the other thread? Nobody cares about AI Roguelike.
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>>495754748 (me)
You got my number, right SA? I'll be waiting for you.
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>>495753457
Remember to boycott this thread~
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>>495755029
>~
https://files.catbox.moe/z2s8yg.mp4
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>>495755137
Your filthy bread will get pruned by the mods, Baker. Mine was first.
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The cabal might shill it as the service of our time, but I know better. You can't unslop Llama. My thread will survive. Yours will get pruned.
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bump
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>>495764226
Good joke lel.
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>>495756278
LLAMA-3 isn't as slopped as LLAMA-2 though, it's acceptable.
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>>495738362
whats CF,I remember angryanon and whiny girl



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