SSJ3 CHAMPIONly Edition>DRAGON BALL: Sparking! ZERO https://youtu.be/qOkd6pXHtYY >Dragon Ball Superdivers Announced! https://youtu.be/8YNyrd9MD0w >Dragon Ball Project: Multi Announced! https://youtu.be/d6bowq2uQM0 >Useful links:https://rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>STP medals are now available for purchase (fuck Bandai)>The 2nd Festival of Universes is underwaySDBH News:>MM6 has launched>Majin Ozotto is dead>SDBH SEC card campaign>UR cards based on each SDBH story arc>4 SEC cards based on OG, Z, GT, and Super>3 cards will be compatible with Superdivers>SDBH Databasehttps://www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/DBSDV news:>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>Avatars can also equip accessories and level up a skill tree>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot:>Season 3 of DLC has been datamined to be Daima (Part I and Part II)DB The Breakers:>Season 6 released on June 26th>Survivors: CAC, Bulma, Oolong, The Farmer, Chichi, King Furry, Yajirobe, Baba, Dende, King Kai, Gogeta, Cheelai, Lemo, Future Mai, Puar, Jaco, Bra, Launch (Good and Bad)>Raiders: Cell, Frieza, Buu, Vegeta, Ginyu Force, Broly, Goku Black/Zamasu, Baby Vegeta>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira ToriyamaThank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>495475396
>>495684685bro the OP is getting way too long
>>495684809We can take out the SDBH section besides card database since it's useful.RIP ;_;
Haven't played a doragon ballu game since tenkaichi 3Is Kakarot worth playing? Only 15 dollary doos right now
>>495684958It's pretty cool.
I'm looking forward to the /dbg/ tournies, I wonder what kind of autism is going to pop up in the threads when it starts. I just hope it doesn't devolve too quickly.
>>495684958It's kinda like a 3D Legacy of Goku, if you like action RPGs.
>No DBS skinny Majin Buu in SZBack on the treadmill it is
>>495684923Just add the DBH section inside the link itself
>>495685624if we stick to Cell Games or WMA it should be goodOther tournaments might be divisive with the no-fly rules and such
>>495685683DBS DLC
>>495685902Yamcha games.
>>495685960Damn, my boy on the upper left looks good>Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed)Could be fun, a pink hellzone grenade variant as his ultimate or maybe even a tracking special beam cannon
>>495686360To be fair, most beams in the game already do a bit of tracking. Remember that one clip of Tien's Dodonpa doing a 90-degree curve?
>>495685802Multi got great models tooMobile games got that gacha money to make things look nice
>tfw Z Gogeta's Punisher Drive in SZFeels good man
>>495685902Yeah even though the world tournament ring out is fun I can easily see people having shit fits about getting command grabbed out of the ring
>>495685960>No buff Buu.
>>495688968Heroes got him on an exclusivity contract
Sparking Zero has a roster 182 characters. This sounds like a lot, but let's check how diverse the roster actually is. Among the 182 characters there are:>2 black men (actually one with 2 forms)>14 females (actually 8 with various forms, or 7 since one is a fusion)>1 lesbian>4 elderly men (actually 3)>2 handicapped men (actually one)>6 plus size men>1 plus size woman>18 VegetasWhat does this roster tell us about society?
If you main Piccolo, I'll respectfully assume that you're of African descent
What if UE Vegeta had slightly pointy ears too? It would follow the "Vegeta somewhat resembles Beerus now" idea and make him look more like Ozaru, which fits the whole "the history of the saiyans is related to Vegeta's mastery of the power of destruction" thing too
>>495690985I main GT Goku and this is a picture of me.
>>495691694It'd make ultra ego look even shittier so I can see toyotaro doing it.
>>495692621Damn GT loving rats infesting honest anons' dragon ball threads
Just 2 more weeks bros, you DID get the digital deluxe edition right?
In terms of story mode>Sparking Neo >>> Sparking Zero >> Sparking Meteor > Sparking
>>495693795Too fucking expensive, base it goes
>>495684685Currently confirmed costumes we know are coming back from BT3 (Ignoring character defaults. Also I'm basing this of their defaults in BT3 because some of them have different defaults now):>Early Goku: "Kaio" symbol Gi, Non-weighted Turtle Gi.>Mid Goku: Yardrat Outfit, Battle Damaged Namek Gi>End Goku: Saiyan Armor>Scouter Vegeta: Early Namek and Late Namek Armors>Kid Gohan: Saiyan Saga without headband and Namek Saga Armor>Teen Gohan: Saiyan Armor>Adult Gohan: Great Saiyaman without headwear (Turns into Bandana variant when transforming)>Piccolo: Weighted Clothing>Piccolo (Fused with Kami): Weighted Clothing>Krillin: Saiyan Saga Gi (New default), Namek Armor and Cell Saga Gi (Old default)>Yamcha: Saiyan Saga haircut (New default), Cell Saga haircut (Old default) and OG Series Bandit Outfit>Tien: Green Gi (Old default) and Shirtless Gi>Chiaotzu: Saiyan Saga outfit (New default)>Roshi: OG Series/DBZ outfit (Old default) and Jackie Chun>Sword Trunks: Without his jacket>Videl: 1st appearance with pigtails>Bardock: OVA Classic Armor (Old default)>Nappa: Without Armor>Recoome: Battle Damaged>Android 18: Late Cell Saga outfit and Majin Buu Saga outfit>Frieza Force Soldier: Alternate design from the Bardock specialCurrently missing outfits:>Early Goku: "Go" Kanji Gi that Mid Goku wears (He wears it in Tree of Might and Lord Slug)>Mid Goku: Symbol-less Gi>End Goku: End of Z Gi>Teen Goku: Classic Outfit (Since his default is now based on DBS Broly) and Original Blue Gi.>Scouter Vegeta: Original Anime Colors>Kid Gohan: Saiyan Saga with headband>Teen Gohan: Bojack Movie Gi>Krillin: Majin Buu Saga outfit >Chiaotzu: 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai outfit (Old default)>Videl: "Fight" T-Shirt>Roshi: World's Strongest Movie Outfit>Bardock: Battle Damaged>King Cold: His old design since he's now based on DBS Broly>Android 17 (Z): GT Trenchcoat >Broly (Z): Second Movie Outfit
>>495697395Completely new costumes that we know of:>Mid Goku: Saiyan Armor (Used to be End Goku only)>Goku Super: Turtle Gi with no belt, RoF Whis Gi, Super Gi with Power Pole (Ultimate Edition Bonus)>UI Goku: Turtle Gi with no belt>Early Vegeta: Armor with white boots>End Vegeta: Saiyan Armor>Vegeta Super: RoF Whis Gi>Teen Gohan: Demon Gi with Cape>Adult Gohan: ToP/Super Gi and DBS Tracksuit>Ultimate Gohan: DBS Tracksuit>Krillin: Turtle Gi with hair>Tien: Cell Games outfit and Rof/Super Outfit (New default)>Roshi: Rof/Super Outfit (New Default) and Green Hawaiian Shirt>DBS Trunks: Capsule Corp Green Sweater>Bardock DB Minus/Super Battle Armor (New Default)>Android 18: DBS Tracksuit >Toppo: Battle DamagedIgnoring some battle damaged variants for Goku and Vegeta (and a couple others) for the sake of brevityEvery costume prediction I had before is in already, so...Suggest any ideas for potential costumes for DLC (or maybe somehow missing from the store) if you want to but keep it reasonable. I want Postman Piccolo as much as the next guy but let's be real.
>>495691694Come to think, why did SS4 have eyebrows, again? One of Toriyama's ideas for SS3 was making Goku grow a tail back so I would say the lack of eyebrows isn't to make it look more ferocious, but precisely to look more like a Great Ape, then GT adds Golden Great Ape for the progression to SS4... and then, other than having some fur, SS4 looks nothing like Golden Great Ape, or SS3, or any other formNow I need to see fan art of SS4 without eyebrows AND with pointy monster ears like Great Ape
>Watch a YT video showing a character's moveset>They have a Rush Attack>*miss*>*skip 10 seconds*>Watch the Rush Attack connect the 2nd time (Not always guaranteed either)
>>495696696Unpopular opinion, I still think the first Sparking had the best story mode.
>>495697203>>495693795got it for 85 smackaroos on cdkeyswish this 3 day advanced access shit wasn't becoming the norm
>>495696696SZ story looks very disappointing. There's no way it's still the second best
>>495699878Who fucking cares if you don't get to play it 3 days early
>>495700238But what if you DIE during the third day?
>>495691694How pointy are we talking about?
>>495700029I do think it's better than 3 from what we've seen. The first chapter of Freeza's story for example is pretty much the same as that one fight from 3 where you play as Freeza but the presentation alone is much better now.
>>495700238All my homies are gonna be playing it early...
>>495699315how do they keep missing attacks on fucking training dummies that don't move
>>495701419Instead of just usig the attack most people try to do the "Do a basic combo,l aunch the enemy and follow up with a rush" thing and just zap past them
>>495700029Do you remember BT3's? Even if you consider it more comprehensive in terms of coverage (it was really bad in that respect, anyway), there was actually no meat to it. Its main gimmick was "you don't have to stick to the script!" but your reward for doing so in 99% of cases is just a victory line like "hey wow I actually won" or "he wasn't that tough" and there's no actual effect on the story. There were no unique animations to the story, it was all conveyed through narrator text, completely normal match intro with context-specific dialogue, and victory pose dialogue. No matter how disappointed I am in the quantity of SZ's episode mode, it clears BT3's in my eyes.
I hope Gogeta (Super) has a special interaction with Janenba, and same for Gogeta (Z) and Broly (Super)
>>495699315You were watching the Z Broly one where the dude missed a stationary target like 3 times weren’t you
>>495700569Didn't Toyo like KH?
>>495702709Actually I was a watching a Whis movelist (about time someone uploads that). Something unintentionally funny about all the glazing because of his auto dodge but then his Ultimate is a Rush that will miss 80% of the time because how shit Rush Attack's tracking is in this game.
>>495696696I think it's still too soon for judgements like this though it definitely appears it's not gonna be what we hoped it to be. Still, gotta wait and see how the branching gimmick's gonna work past Saiyan saga.
>>495699280>>495702820>fading eyebrows>pointy ears>yellow irisesENTER THE OZARU MASTER
I think I've squeezed everything I can out of PS2 DBZ Fighters and their PS3 spiritual successors in the last couple of months. If I want to play something a bit more modern to kill the time until SZ, should I play Kakarot or XV2?
>>495681761>Likely was awareI haven't actually watched the Super movie, what makes you say that?
Would Super Pan's story have been improved if Videl was still a fighter, perhaps succeeding Hercule? Gohan would want nothing less than to provide the positive association with fighting he never had at her age, and that might have aided with it. I don't hate the idea of Grandpa Piccolo, but it just feels cheaper.
>>495704829He used a shock collar on Broly as opposed to a mind control collar, which is a bit more openly abusive.
>>495705496>HerculeStopped reading right here. Leave.
>>495706151Plus they were basically trapped on a planet by themselves so even if Broly was like "hmm yes classic parental abuse I see" it didn't matter too much when they were the only non giant monster life on the planet.I really like the way the dbs broly movie paints Broly as the protagonist. It's like terminator 2.
>>495684923If you want to streamline the SDBH section, can mention MM6 released and its dead barring SDBH mode on Super Divers without set details. And maybe add https://rentry.org/sdbhdecklist as a resource for SDBH deck building autism
>>495703242Thanks one way to balance him I guess
>>495703242Been ignoring a lot of sz footage intentionally, but how do you deal damage to Whis through his auto dodge?
>>495708982You just hit him with a super, also might not be active outside of his idle stance, so you might be able to catch him while he’s dashing or attacking
>for the longest time thought i had played the BT series>check collection because of all the S0 hype>only ever had budokai not-tenkaichi 2 and 3its been like 15 years since i played them so its not like muscle memory is gonna fuck me up but what all did I miss? i saw people in other threads talking about red potaras as some kinda broken capsule, what were they?
>>495696696LOL I forgot how godawful Sparking's story mode was.
>>495710290What was so bad about it (never played it)?
Budokai 1's Story Mode will never be surpassed. It's almost perfect.
>>495708982You can also grab him.
>>495710392Barely any context during interactions, and the plot is barely explained fights, except a small summary at the start and the end of a Saga. Not only that, but there's not that many alt costumes in the game, so you'll see Yamcha with his Android Saga hairdo in the Saiyan Saga and Vegeta in his Android Saga outfit for the entirety of the Namek Saga. Iirc there's no Multi Battles either, and battles where multiple characters are involved are tedious 1v1s.
>>495709557The Budokai series was created by Dimps (aka Xenoverse), Tenkaichi was created by Spike and were some of the earliest anime arena fighters. Red Patora characters were special unlocks via Red Shenron wishes and cheat codes that made their CPU function on maximum difficulty, beyond what's normally possible in-game. Want a thumb-breaking challenge, equip the red patora and fight.I dunno if Sparking Zero will bring that back, since the only dragons are regular Shenron, Porunga, and Super Shenron, but we'll see.
>>495703242>Rush Attack's trackingI don't think that exists in sz
>>495711609It's like 3, some track and some just go on a short straight line, usually the Ultimates.
>>495684923>>495684685Is there no DBH card database that has larger versions of the card art?
So with Toriyama gone where do you think the franchise will go from here? Like, story-wise. Will Toyotaro just do it on his own? I can't imagine the companies involved just deciding to never make new content again for such a cashcow. I want to at least know what the hell is up with the Namekians apparently being from "another dimension"
>>495714861They will still claim any upcoming arcs/movies are "based on Toriyama's notes" 30 years from now.
>>495714861I fully expect them to let it go into hibernation.
>>495715675good one
>>495713575Not really, best you can do is scrape what's on Twitter/Youtube community. Maybe in WM2 it'll have HQ scans if we're lucky to live in that timeline?
>>495714861In the worst case we end up with a Star Wars sequels tier scenario
>>495715675I'll say it depends all on Daima
>>495715793They'll never stop making new games and stuff but we could go back into that post-GT pre-BoG period where no new anime or manga was happening.
>>495715946They should have enough notes for at least another season. I just hope Tori gave it an ending.
>>495714861can you imagine Toyotaro making a continuation of the End of Z and making his onw GT?i can't
>>495716434I can
>>495716009>Super Kai will become a thing
>>495714861I think Toyotaro will continue the manga, then they will eventually continue with the anime and cover what Toyotaro does with the manga.Then when Toyo is finished with the manga they're going to stop the 'canon continuity' and do spin-offs, continue making movies etc
>>495718132That's the opposite of what they've done so far.
Think I can run SZ with a 5600 + 7600?
>>495718132Considering Shueisha and CCT are still in the middle of a rights dispute between the manga and anime, how long do you think we'll have to wait until manga gets adapted?
>>495718413That should be fine for 1080p
>>495718132For the love of god, that shit is never getting animated!
>>495719240While I doubt they'd ever go back to pre-Super Hero to animate Moro and Granolah, they COULD adapt Toyo's stuff going forward, even if I doubt it too.
Is the ultimate version of sparking zero digital only? Is it possible to preorder a physical ultimate edition?
Remember when one of the trailers had Dabura say "I..am the King" in a weird way and some people thought it was a misplaced King Vegeta voiceline? tbf they had Super Buu with an Evil Buu line on the Majin Buu Saga trailer and that one was confirmed to be a mistake by the Voice Director on Twitter
I'm going to get a job at Toei and rise up the ranks to work on Dragon Ball.I'll continue past Z, with a time skip so Uub is the main lead, Pan is a flat chested milf, Goten is a character.I'll save the franchise with Gohan going Beast 2, Pink Piccolo, Super Saiyan God 4, Super Majiuub... Emerald Frieza absorbed! And of course scene where Pan gives birth.
>>495721252>Pan is a flat chested milfwith a fat ass and curvy legs?
>>495721492yes.
>>495721252Outside of Pan, all your plans are utter garbage.
>>495719240It's going to get animated.
>Flat chested milf
>>495718132>stop the 'canon continuity' and do spin-offs, continue making movies etcI think even if they don't outright say "this is no longer canon" people will already think that simply because Toriyama is gone. They can pull off the "he left us notes" maybe for like a movie and one more arc but eventually people aren't going to buy it. Toyotaro can write his own stuff or spinoffs but people won't view it in the same way they did when Toriyama was around no matter what they call it. If people end up not liking what they do it could potentially be more damaging than not doing anything.
I don't know why people hated this Classic.Dragon Ball: Goku & Trunks is amazing.
>>495727117Goten should be there
>>495727117GT Trunks it's weird because the show tries to pretend he's Future Trunks and kinda wants you to believe it but he's not. So he ends up without the Vegeta-like cockyness Kid Trunks had and is thrust into a sort of older brother role keeping Goku and Pan on a leash that he only really has because someone on the crew has to be the responsible one.
Pan!
>>495727117Goku is a prop in the majority of the first arc, not a characterTrunks might as well be replaced with Bra for as useful he is in the story; at least Bra left some permanent change
Does Super Dragon Ball World Mission have content from the original series?
>>495729232Pan if Gohan died
>>495729419It has some DBH cards you can play with but none of the arcade from the DBH era and 99% of the cards only exist in custom accessories (you can recreate HGD9-44 Future Trunks but the card itself isn't in any shop).
>>495729847No, that just Pan after Goku BETRAYED her for Uub and TRAPPED her in a well of emotions.
Anyone here play Fusion World? It's the digital version of the DBS card game
>>495729232Ssj pan
>>495729419It probably has more but from the top of my head these and Ninja Murasaki
I've tried that 'Sovereign' game on Beyond and is there anything to do in it outside of hitting a tree for a few seconds, pressing the 'train' button for a few seconds and then meditating AFK for 10 hours?
>>495730743How strong is she? Can she beat Black Frieza?
>>495730359That's pure 'fatherless' energy. Alt/punk = single mother or abusive father, without exception.
>>495731447Stronger than an ant! Even a Saiy-ant!
>raider game>curiously, every survivor has firewall/memories of battle/bubble; zerg rush keys, zerg rush dragon balls, all know to transform and rush the raider 4+ at a time and fire their ultimates at the same timeEvery single time I get raider, I genuinely cannot remember a raider game where I didn't have to melt through a level 4 survivor with trained by an angel
>>495731835but only if the ant is this big |________|
>>495731447She can beat my meat
>>495731583>>495730359I can save her with my penis
>>495729419>>495731001>Kid Goku (Base, Oozaru)>Teen Goku [not technically a seperate character from Adult Goku]>Kid Krillin>Teen Bulma>Teen Yamcha [not technically a seperate character from Yamcha]>Master Roshi (Base, Max Power)>Jackie Chun>Combined Pilaf Machine>General Blue>Pirate Machine>Ninja Murasaki>Master Shen>Tambourine>King Piccolo (Old, Young, Giant)>Kami (Young, Old)>Majunior (Base, Giant)
>>495731001Jesus christ what did they do to kid goku
>>495729419Oh shit you meant OG Dragon ball, my bad.>OG DBYou have old Yamchad, Kid Goku (alongside Oozaru), Ninja Murasaki, Pirate Robot, Pilaf (Combined), Jackie Chun, Demon King Piccolo (I believe there are giant cards of him, otherwise that's an accessory at least), Kid Krillin, no Kid Chi Chi as that was UM10, Tambourine can be made but I don't think he has another card in the shops. I don't believe you have kid Bulma (is in SDBH proper as a MM2 SR). Mercenary Tao has cards alongside General Blue, Master Shen might have a promo card but otherwise is accessories only. PIccolo Jr. doesn't have his card in the game but can be made as a custom card, and I think that's it? Some others in the arcade scene are later, not just Chi Chi/Kid Chi Chi but Lucifer and Moon Rabbit iirc were in UM sets the game doesn't have.
>>495732486It was SDBH pre BM when they started making their own models and doing fancy model updates (thank you BM2 for saving SSBE Vegeta), that Kid Goku's ripped straight from Budokai 3 I think.
>>495729232I have the urge to headpat her
>>495732486He always looked like that, at least that specific model.
>>495732934guess he really is teen goku
DBH bros I'm playing World Mission and I noticed that gacha tickets have this option to use either one or 10, is using 10 what anons told me meant "single pull"? And if so, should I only use 10 tickets like that for regular tickets, but with rare tickets I should use just one?Also I noticed different sets to pick cards, does it really matter that much which set I choose? Or is there a recommended one?
>>495732048
>>495734330What I reference by "single pull" is that you spend 1 ticket at a time, this will increase your loading screens but the dupe protection going for pulls 1 by 1 is really good, especially when starting out. In promotion (where 400 or so cards reside), you can go ahead and multi-pull I heavily suggest you make that the last set you try to complete just because while there's solid cards in it, none are game changingly amazing and it's bloated with dogshit filler.>recommended SetsIf you have rare tickets, go for DBH and get the Chronoa from there, she will help you so much, then try to get SSB Gogeta (BR) from Added Cards, these two can be the foundation for dozens of decks of whatever bullshit designs you may have. As for other sets of note, it depends on what you want, SH2 has a Demon Goddess Poutine alongside a Cell (Xeno) that are nice grabs (former helps with CIs while the latter makes sure you never die R1 if wanting to try to a R2 otk deck), UM1 and UM2 have some really strong attackers (MUI Goku, SS4 Gogeta, SSBerserk Goku are all amazing pickups), and then the rest is kind of your leisure on what you want (I went SH1 and SH3 because Zamasu fanboy, HGD10 Zamasu is also pretty solid if you want to play a slow-ish deck and have CI disruption, it does work against the AI).
>>495733678Erm ackshully he's 18 years old according to Dragon Ball Minus and DBS Broly
Just 1 universe over, they have the same game as us but their roster is this
>>495735269>Erm ackshully he's 18 years old according to Dragon Ball Minus and DBS BrolyActually that "retcon" only undid a previous retcon and set him back to his original age of being 14 when he meet Bulma
>>495735042I hate these lesbian saiyans like you wouldn't believe
>>495735347>Just 1 universe over, they have the same game as us but their roster is thisBut does it have more stages?
>>495735674It has 3, these stages are mainly to be used with ground only modes and incorporate throwing buildings.They also have up to 4 player mode for 2v2 matches(online only)
>>495735269>>495735531Goku's birthdate didn't change, it says the same age as always in Broly and Minus.
>>495735638you can fix them....
>>495735638Just rape them, bro.Can't beat the cock
>>495736529>>495735996you penis cultists are crazy
Sorrel apparently was in one of the card games, like 3 cards or so.Her power level for this card is the same as ssj Goku's "Backbone of universe 7, Son Goku' card. Her card's power level is above each of the Caulifla and Kale cards
WHAT IFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>495737107We were the Dragon Ball: Heroes all along
>>495735003>but the dupe protection going for pulls 1 by 1 is really goodI saw a video where dupes become part of tickets at least.I used my first rare ticket and got HGD8-19 Gohan (Adult) Status: Potential Unleashed, I assume he'll be a good to replace, whatever the first cards I have... Hopefully I won't figure out how the game works only at the very end like it usually happens.
>>495737182It's not too late for SZ....
>>495737297 (me)>>495735003Also I can just use single pulls for whatever sets aside from Promotion?
I get the bad feeling the what if creator is gonna shit the bed since every good idea was done already and we have no what if forms or fusions to even use for it. We have only the high hitters outside of ToP characters meaning it limits those non totally random or retarded what if about Weelo showing up at the ToP for no reason.B1 also had tons of the good ideas with even a radditz amensia story, Zarbon betrayal story and more, and bardock meets goku and his family have been done to death in the games. I foresee a large amount of Hercule and Yamcha themed what ifs and that's if they aren't all shit posts. I am going to sift through hundreds of Goku room and heart virusku custom battles just to find something good
NONE of you are physically capable of satisfying a monkey.
>>495737665I can. I need you to believe me.
I have the sudden urge to draw GT Goku X Chi-Chi /ss/
>>495737665How hard can it be? just work the clit
>>495737985Dew it
haven't played BT3 in like 10 yearsHow are fusions and transformations going to work in sz? Like assuming you pick base form to start do you have to go ssj1 first then 2 or can you just skip to 2? If so is there any reason to transform to ssj1Also do your characters regen hp if you swap them out?
>>495738563You can skip to two but it costs more stocks
WHERE'S HIS SPINNING PUNCH/KICK COMBO? I THOUGHT THIS WAS A SEQUEL TO TENKAICHI 3???????
>>495737985Do itGT Chichi too much of a hag doe
>>495738238You know, considering they probably have no idea what real foreplay is, you maybe on to something. Then again, they might think that shit is gay, like Romans.
>>495738563>How are fusions and transformations going to work in sz? Like assuming you pick base form to start do you have to go ssj1 first then 2 or can you just skip to 2?You can skip transformations.>If so is there any reason to transform to ssj1The further down the line a transformation is, the more blast stocks it requires. If the game works like BT3, then SS3 will cost three blast stocks from base while SS2 will cost two.It's only worth it to use transformations if they actually upgrade the character, because some transformations, at least in older games, are downgrades, like how Super Perfect Cell is much weaker than Perfect Cell, even though SPC should be stronger.So, if base form Goku is really weak, you may want to transform as soon as possible, but if SS1 Goku is even weaker, then you should avoid it. It's also worth thinking if you should save blast stocks to use them for something else.You can also start a battle transformed, doing away with transformations altogether, but if you play on ranked, the game uses DP battle's system, so each character will have their own points, with weakest forms using less points, and to have as many characters as possible you may have to pick characters in their base form, assuming you're picking transforming characters.
>>495737985Based
>>495739515>because some transformations, at least in older games, are downgrades,that's really strangeI guess I'll have to see which transformations are actually worth it to decideotherwise if it costs 3 stocks total to get to ssj 3 either way, might as well just go straight to it
Your good friend Kuu needs YOU to help her crowdfund a Chronoa body pillow
>>495737297>>495737465>Dupe becomes part of ticketsYeah but the ratios aren't that great for most sets, 10 fragments for a regular ticket while its 50 iirc for a rare ticket. It's just better to do 1 ticket for pulls to not get dupes at all and quickly get the cards you want by single pulls.>Promos (again, do not advise pulling on these early, if you got every other single card you could possibly want, than go here)So for the first 200-300 or so cards of it, you can just blast through with 10 pulls to reduce the amount loading screens but by the last little bit, you can go back to doing single pulls. The big thing for the set is that their dupes give you 8 fragments per, so it's very easy to just continually dump once you get going because of the high refund rate.>HGD8-19 GohanPretty good for your situation right now, Overcoming Adversity is technically STA generation if you are fine with having someone at 1 STA/attack area for the whole game and/or have the Brainwashed Brutality accessory to set someone's STA to 1 and 2x DMG on the triple attack can help end missions.>>495737985Ah, my knees have felt this before, your lordship, may your pen dance with grace.
>>495739902I wish I saved that clip of towa saying she had a bardock pillow
>>495737985My hero and his wife looked so cute in this frame
Kissing Goku.
>>495739772>that's really strangeIt's because each transformation is its own character. Their normal attacks, blast 1s, blast 2s and ultimate blasts all change, and while transformations can have advantages (Like breaking armor from giants faster), they can still be downgrades based on toolset.>otherwise if it costs 3 stocks total to get to ssj 3 either way, might as well just go straight to itWell if you're playing locally or in some lobby where DP isn't an issue, sure, but if you play in ranked then you will have to worry about DP and maybe start with a weaker form to have a more complete team, because once you reach the DP limit you can't pick another character.>>495739964Also about fragment tickets, should I save them to make a rare ticket or make them into regular tickets whenever I can?>So for the first 200-300 or so cards of it, you can just blast through with 10 pulls to reduce the amount loading screens but by the last little bit, you can go back to doing single pulls. The big thing for the set is that their dupes give you 8 fragments per, so it's very easy to just continually dump once you get going because of the high refund rate.Thanks. Though I was wondering about the other sets, if there's any set in particular I should try to get something with regular tickets.>Pretty good for your situation right now, Overcoming Adversity is technically STA generation if you are fine with having someone at 1 STA/attack area for the whole game and/or have the Brainwashed Brutality accessory to set someone's STA to 1 and 2x DMG on the triple attack can help end missions.I don't even know anything of accessories right now. Hopefully it's not anything where if you use it on one card you can't use it anymore.
>>495740842Chi-Chi....
I want Android 21 to eat me
>>495741068>Well if you're playing locally or in some lobby where DP isn't an issue, sure, but if you play in ranked then you will have to worry about DP and maybe start with a weaker form to have a more complete team, because once you reach the DP limit you can't pick another character.Oh I meant like, starting base form and just transforming straight to 3 if it costs the same total as going from 1 > 2 > 3 Do wish DP costs of everything was revealed already so I could figure out my teams
>>495740842ILLEGALthat's a MONKEY
Kissing Gogeta.
We cool, bros?
>>495741336>Oh I meant like, starting base form and just transforming straight to 3 if it costs the same total as going from 1 > 2 > 3 Well this strategy can work well since SZ gives blast meter faster than previous BTs, but again, it depends on how strong the character starts of. If base Goku can hold his own then waiting until you have enough blast stocks for SS3 (Assuming SS3 is a worthy investment), then sure, but if he's too weak and literally any other form is an upgrade, then you may want to transform into SS1/2 before going SS3, but even that would depend on how long it takes for you to get blast while fighting.Also about your question about HP healing, if it's like older games then HP doesn't heal, nor do they get blast stocks and I think ki doesn't fill up too. If I'm right then there's no strategy like DBFZ or MvC or KoF where one character can be a battery for the rest of the team.>Do wish DP costs of everything was revealed already so I could figure out my teamsA bunch of youtubers got to play the game for 30 minutes and very few even checked DP stuff. A few DPs were posted here (Like Metal Cooler costing 7), and it seems 10 is the highest. It was also said here that ranked will use a 15DP system but that isn't confirmed (And I hope it isn't true, should be 20 points minimum).
>XV2 came out in 2016>Super ended in 2018>took 7 years for them to get caught up on the new formsIt's crazy to think that people who played this game on launch played a completely different game cause there were jack shit for transformations
>>495742584There's still jackshit outside the Saiyan forms.
>>495742675Well I mean what can anyone else do?
>>495742408>Also about your question about HP healing, if it's like older games then HP doesn't healWrong, some characters like Frieza and Cell heal after transforming, hell, some even lose health (Janemba into Super Janemba), plus you can regain health by switching characters
>>495742930>plus you can regain health by switching charactersYeah that's one of the other things I was wondering for strategy purposesLike swapping out to your other character then fusing the first low health one, stuff like that
>>495711180Red Shenron didn’t actually give you red potaras, you could only get them through the codes to just get a character with all of them equipped
Cell never saw Goku coming
>>495739000Which combo string is that
>>495731001Did they just decapitate kid Goku and put his head on Teenhan’s body?
>>495743453the one with a beard is fucking terrifying. he has rabies. he needs to be put down
>>495743453>Male character has 18's outfitDEI got into Dragon Ball too....
>>495740008That's more fitting for Chronoa to say.
>>495744698Nobody told you about Xenoverse 2 huh?
>>495744698don't be such a misandrist
>>495740842Pan...
>>495744860>Xenoverse 2>2016>2 years deep into the pozz eraUh huh
>>495741607>still no canon Bulchi or Chima
>>495739902Why would need to crowdfund it, what the hell are you spending the Zeni on? I get everyone eats a healthy amount of food but don't you have it millions of the stuff? Maybe check under your couch, might have a couple extra hundred grand to funnel to Fu for the body pillow.>>495741068>FragmentsIf there's a card you want from the normal sets (not DBH/Added Cards, those are rare ticket only), then I'd just go with normal tickets to go with them.>Regular ticketsDepends on what you want, damage or speed? UM1-UM2 have a nice variety of cards to go by, easy CIs? SH1-2 should have Demon Goddess Towa/Poutine that help you out. Lazy defense? SH2-SEC Cell (Xeno) makes sure you won't die R1 if he's a lone attacker and works well with UM1 Gogeta (GT). If you want, you could just take a look around to see what cards are there that you do want if you're able to beat missions with what you have currently and want something more.>AccessoriesThey're extra equippables you can put on cards that add onto them (barring the earrings, if they're a CAA/TAA they'll replace the CAA/TAA on the card but if it's a band or whatever, it just stacks with the card meaning you can make obscene 2 ability cards with them, they're also the material you'll need if you want to touch Custom Cards, something I recommend as a late game thing because of strength and also investment), they aren't consumed when equipped you just need multiples of it if you want multiple cards to have the same accessory, you'll be able to spend zeni to buy them alongside being mission rewards as you progress through the game. Also just remembered there should be some easy extra missions on the hero lab if you want to try and get some of the abilities from the cards they added via patches.
>>495743453>that brown saiyan 4 girlFug....
Teen Goku’s head is too big.
it's weird to me that they call Kid Goku "Teen Goku" now. why isn't that term used for end of OG Goku before Gohan is born instead?
>>495746841because he's an adult
>>495746823Heck yeah it is.>>495746841He's already a teenager before Piccolo Jr.
>>495746896isn't he only 18 at the end of OG?
>>49574713019
>>495747178so still a number that ends with "teen"? lol>>495747082little ass teenager.
>>495735531>>495735932How could Son Gohan possibly have known how old kid Goku actually is when he found him, especially since Saiyans age somewhat differently from Earthlings
Only the Dragon Ball fanbase could make this a debate.
>>495747371>powerscaling GT against Supernot today, aneurysm.when the fuck did Goku perform a Blue Kaioken Spirit Bomb??
>>495747371The cabba shit is the most forced reddit joke I've seen in years
>>495747557vs renji
>>495745307>what the hell are you spending the Zeni on?Important things, things worth more than Bulmas cumulative riches in value
Need a buff saiyan gf...
>>495747741I see.
>>495747575Knowing how some people are, it may not be a joke to them. Let's not forget how TFS show how impressionable people can be.
>>495747371Well, does the user make that much difference on the Genkidama? The genki is derived entirely from others
>>495747286Just count the rings bro it's not that hard
>>495747286I'm not talking about Gohan, I'm talking about Goku's official 'Age' of birth in the actual timeline.
>>495747997the only difference is GTku is dead
>>495748031Yes, and his age would have been decided upon by Gohan, since it's not like he had access to his birth certificate on Planet Vegeta
>>495747741Giving Chronoa all of my money so she'll say my name~
>>495747575It's just a fact.
>>49574727418 is technically considered an adult
>>495748140No, lorelet, Age as in the actual year.
>>495747997Difference is entirely in actually pushing the Spirit Bomb, as a weakened user can struggle to actually force it to hit, while a stronger one can guarantee victory with it. See: end of the Kid Buu fight.
>>495748140Grandpa Gohan could tell because he was a diaper-shitting infant when he arrived on earth. Children age so quickly from the time they're born until the time they're about 2 that you can make a reasonable estimate down to the month.
>>495748297>TechnicallyNo, it factually is in an adult.
>>495748310But how could it possibly align with his self-reported age? He just found some alien kid with no context, how does he know when that kid was born?>>495748390No longer the case per Minus canon
Honestly I've probably spent more hours in these threads this year that I will playing the game
>>495747371The GT Genkidama is just a weaker version of the Buu Saga Genkidama, the fuck is it gonna do against even ROF Golden Frieza? Let alone a TOP Goku?
>>495748590Weaker? Isn't it a "Universal" Spirit Bomb?
>>495748473We're not talking about what the character say Goku's Age of birth way, we're talking about the literal date we see on screen when he was born.>No longer the case per Minus canonThe manga never show him as a baby, it was an anime addition so even before Minus, it wasn't the case.
>>495748698The Buu Saga Genkidama had the universe AND the afterlife and the GT one only had the universe.So yes, it's a 'universal' Genkidama but it's still weaker.
>>495748734>we're talking about the literal date we see on screen when he was bornThat's well and good but it's strange if Gohan somehow got it dead-on. We see Goku age strangely throughout Dragon Ball, generally looking a lot younger than he is, so it should be assumed his appearance doesn't match an earthling of the same age
>>495748884Anon, we never see Gohan talk about Goku's age cause he's dead and they already did the joke about Goku getting his own name wrong, which was already too confusing for americans, having more people get Goku's age wrong would just be needlessly confusing, repetitive and plainly not how you write a story.You don't make characters wrong on some trivia just for the hell of it.
>>495749151That's cool man but Goku's correct age being known on Earth is nevertheless a plot hole unless explained otherwise.
>>495748878>The Buu Saga Genkidama had the universe AND the afterlifeIt did not, by that time the energy Goku could pull without consent was chump change, only the energy from people who raise their hands matters
>>495747130>12 at the start>8 months time skip once Pilaf is dealt with, might be 13>3 years time skip once RRA and Baba's tournament is dealt with, he's 15/16 during 22nd tournament and king Piccolo's arcs>23rd tournament happens 3 years later, he's 18/19.The Minus retcon makes him two years older during all of these, so absurdly he'd be 17 when dealing with king Piccolo.
>>495749151>Goku getting his own age wrong*My bad.
>>495749242Please read the manga before talking.
>>495749263This is Gohan Jr at roughly the same age as Goku during the Piccolo Daimao arc, the discrepancy barely gets any worse with or without Minus either way
>>495748297maybe if you wanna die in Afghanistan or see an R-rated movie–that's about all being 18 gets you in terms of "adult" clout anymore. at 18 you can't even fuck someone over the age of 24 without getting them in trouble. they moved the cigarette purchasing age to 21 too. lmao
>>495749263>The Minus retcon makes him two years older during all of these,It doesn't, the age he was born at and those events took place in literally haven't changed. The math still add up the same
>>495749224can't be a plot hole if it's not a plot point
>>495747575Qrd?
>>495749837Goku's age is brought up with some importance in early DB
>>495747371you're a cunt for bringing this discussion to the general.
>>495749224>Muh plotholeYou're just retarded at this point.
>>495749910gags aren't important
>>495749930There's no discussion, everyone just agreed GT get BTFO'd. The only discussion right now is about Goku's age.>>495749224Vegeta being the same height and weight as Astolfo is closer to a plothole than this shit.
>>495749868
Bros, Trunks is docking my pay again
I don't think we have any idea how old Vegeta is
The biggest difference between GT and super is that in GT they claim people are stronger than they used to be but it sure doesn't feel like it thanks to all of the attacks in the entire show having no impact, the terrible music doesn't help either. Super doesn't claim anything but you can tell they're stronger Super was shit but GT was galactic shit
>>495749868People realized that Cabba being as strong as U6 tournament Vegeta in base meant he was stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta and the GT fags's reaction was funny.
>>495748473I don't acknowledge Super as canon.
>>495750372The scaling issue with Super is that it tries to make other beloved characters relative to the god tier cast because it thinks it would be cool, whereas GT forbids anyone other than Goku from being strong and then makes Goku job to a building
>>495750372>Super doesn't claim anythingexcept that Goku and Beerus are unraveling the fabric of reality trading blows in the first arc? that Gohan and Krillin and Android 17 can keep up with Super Saiyan Blue? that Goku can shrug off a black hole? that Potara don't last forever anymore? that Zeno and the Angels are a hard ceiling for power levels within the setting? that Cell Max is stronger than LSS Super Broly?
>>495750478Minus isn't Super.
>>495750675>unraveling the fabric of realityThey're just blowing shit up, it's not quite that level
>>495749451Namekians are not "the universe"
>>495750729Anything post-1996 is Super or GT. Neither of which is canon
>>495750675>that Goku can shrug off a black hole?That's basically nothing from the moment you can blow up a solar system.>>495750770They are straight up destroying the universe (which is reality) and reaching into the Kaioshin realm, which is a separate reality, it's beyond the level of just 'unraveling' something.The most impressive part is that it wasn't even the blows themselves doing that but just the shockwaves from them hitting each others.
>>495750157https://twitter.com/HasmerJr/status/1838425353313714213?s=19
>>495747741Fellow patroller..., that's spent with TP medals, not Zeni. Secondly, let me hook you up with a friend I know he's found a few tricks to help make the HC worth touching and even knows of something much better when you find it lacking.
>>495750971>and reaching into the Kaioshin realm, which is a separate reality, it's beyond the level of just 'unraveling' somethingThe SSJ3 powerup in the Buu Saga did that
>>495750859That's why the name file is 'afterlife', which prove you wrong on it not having the power of the universe AND the afterlife.Here the one that prove your new cope wrong.Really read the manga next time.
>>495750397i don't know how anyone can assert this claim with confidence when we've never actually seen SSJ4 Gogeta give it his all. the nigga clowned around for 15 minutes and took no damage. i don't see how you can extrapolate enough data from that to legitimately compare him to anyone else.
>>495751102And? SSJ3 is bullshit strong too.Also your energy reaching somewhere is below the destruction from said energy spreading somewhere.
I'm glad I got out of powerscaling (not that this was a common term back then) when I was 12 years old on the now abandoned medium of internet forums. It was a simpler time, people debating Mystic Gohan vs SSJ3 Goku, Kid Buu vs Super Buu (two highly related debates, as you can imagine), or god forbid Goku vs Superman. Nobody even felt compelled to pretend to care about GT back then, life was good.
>>495751273He needed a whole plan to to cancel out a destructive energy spreading and risking to destroy the universe, something Goku and Beerus before Goku made him put in any effort could do.Cabba is like 2 arc worth of power ups stacked on top of that.
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>>495751332>people debating Mystic Gohan vs SSJ3 Goku, Kid Buu vs Super Buu (two highly related debates, as you can imagineThose people are retarded, the manga straight up tells us which ones are stronger in both cases.>or god forbid Goku vs SupermanEven dumber, Superman got raped in russian prison and has a gay bottom son, he lost at everything forever.
>>495751613>the manga straight up tells us which ones are stronger in both cases.The thing is that powerscalers generally prefer to use the anime, which makes it a complete trainwreck
>>495751564Koyama REALLY didn't want anyone stronger than Broly.He also had a weird hate boner for Krillin.
>>495751084I used my zeni to buy the TP medals and bribe anyone who owned oneTrunks also won't let me get anymore normally, he said I am banned from playing and going within a 6 mile radius of the coliseum
>>495751736Fair enough then because the anime did add random shit like Kid Buu being called the strongest.But like it's obvious the anime did that because they wanted to pad out time and had no idea what Toriyama was planning.Especially since you have Goku and Vegeta literally bring up 'Hey, Gohan or Gotenks could handle THAT Buu now' (unless the anime removed it) before Vegeta has a shitfit and demands the humans 'save themselves for once'.
>>495751613>>495751736Yeah at the end of the day, the debates mostly centered around the legitimacy of scenes like anime only bits of SSJ3 Goku throwing hands with Buuhan. That guy a few threads back who insisted on the Toei Continuity Power Gap really brought me back to those times.
>>495751153You can't be this retarded. We literally see how the genkidama increases in size multiple times after the earthlings raise their hands. It was the whole point of the scene and the reason Satan's speech was a big deal. And you want to claim everyone in the universe gave their energy for no reason just because Kaioh was transmitting the same message the Earth ignored until their personal hero asked them? Go fuck yourself. Seriously fuck you.
>>495752014>That guy a few threads back who insisted on the Toei Continuity Power Gap really brought me back to those times.It was really funny how he kept pretending that Super didn't also just take shit from the anime continuity.When you have fucking Gregory the Cricket on screen.
>>495751290>SSJ3 is bullshit strong too.Is it tho?
>>495751843Okay, just uh, go to Fuu and whisper "World Mission", he'll know what to give you and set you on your way. Don't need to worry about Trunks, Chronoa and Bulma stopping it since they'll risk open rebellion if they do. Better than the HC even when I figured out Bulma's code and modded it.
>>495752116>Get proven wrong by a direct manga panel>Start having a tantrumHere's direct confirmation from DBS BTW
>>495752240It's so funny how Beerus really ended up unsurpassed in Toriyama's lifetime (even if he technically got surpassed right from BOG with the Whis reveal)
>>495751039that's fuckin' hilarious. i kinda wanna remake it with this skill because its one of Azura's rougher Clashes and i think it'd be funny as hell to watch Gogeta and Cabba perform it. lolhttps://youtu.be/82HUs0tmTv4?si=p5OsOkfZhy82FBTU
One of my favorite UI Goku moment is when he slowly start countering Jiren's literal river of punches while still having his arms down.It's a shame people don't talk about it much and it's basically ignored by DB games / media in general.
>>495750168hide your zeni in the hercule badge flipping black market
>>495752426Just answer me two questions. Why was it such a big deal that the people from Earth gave their energy if, according to you, Goku had already received way more energy than anything a single planet could produce? And do you really think Satan's request, which was framed as the big moment of victory, was essentially worthless?
>>495749565Unlike Goku, Gohan naturally grew more gradually over the years, so there's not much of a discrepancy when Goku just seemed like a really late bloomer when it comes to growth spurt, but Gohan wasn't.
>>495753691>Why was it such a big deal that the people from Earth gave their energySame reason it was a big deal to do the Genkidama in the first place: So the humans could save themselves instead of just having Ultimate Gohan one shot Buu. It's literally stated in the manga.>And do you really think Satan's request, which was framed as the big moment of victory, was essentially worthless?No, it wasn't worthless, it was the whole point of the Genkidama in the first place. Humans needed to participate in their own salvation.Complaining about Genkidama powers is like complaining about Trunks's sword of hope, it's pointless because none of it is explained in detail so all your conclusions and assumptions are basically headcanon.All we know is what the manga and DBS said: Goku used the power of the universe AND the afterlife, thus the GT Universal Genkidama is at best a copy paste of the Super Genkidama or at worst, a weaker version that lack the afterlife's power.
>>495750546>whereas GT forbids anyone other than Goku from being strongRemember that Uub fused with Buu looked stronger than SS3 Goku since he put up a decent fight against Baby, and then in Super 17 Uub couldn't even make Super 17 flinch, while SS1 Goku was capable of hurting him?That jump in power will never stop being absurd. Toei works in rule of cool over anything else and in DBS that hasn't changed too, unfortunately...
>>495754296You say that like Toriyama wasn't the master of just completely fodderizing the big names of the previous arc.If anything the anime went out of it's way to portray absolute curbstomp like Goku vs Tenshinhan and SSJ Goku vs Frieza as more equal.
>>495751759>Koyama REALLY didn't want anyone stronger than Broly.It's weird he keeps claiming that Broly is always the strongest, when you can safely say he's weaker than Buu (Broly was defeated by Gohan/Goten and maybe Goku, while both Goku and Vegeta with SS2 wouldn't be able to handle Buu), Janemba (Can defeat SS3 Goku and needed a fusion to beat him), and Hildegarn.Even at the end of Bio Broly Goku didn't seem worried about Broly going on a rampage in hell, so it really didn't seem like he thought Broly would be an issue.
>>495754894He's arguably weaker than Cell too since the same Goku who beat him couldn't beat Cell.Also technically, I think Hatchiyak was said to be stronger than Broly, which I don't know how they got away with that statement without Koyama busting in their office space with a katana.It's also funny how he conceded the title of strongest to Beerus. I bet Toriyama having Goku talk about Broly being 'maybe as strong as Beerus' was to be nice to Koyama. Kinda like how he created Yajirobe and had Goku say he sound JUST like Krillin because Toriyama felt bad about killing off Krillin and putting his voice actor out of a job until he came back.
>>495754589>You say that like Toriyama wasn't the master of just completely fodderizing the big names of the previous arc.Fair enough, but at least whenever Toriyama did it there was some sort of excuse in general (New training method, poisonous water that can make you stronger if you survive, higher gravity training, ritual that makes you stronger, zenkais, years long time skips with training being mentioned), in Uub's case Goku just casually manage to make his SS1 far stronger than him after just a few months with no training being mentioned.Not that I'm denying Toriyama's own bullshit when it comes to that, but at least there is in general some excuse, while Toei doesn't bother.
>>495755305Oh yeah, I agree, Toriyama did it a billion time better than the anime ever could, I was just saying, the power jumps weren't something Toriyama avoided and I'd even say he had fun with them.
>>495755267>He's arguably weaker than Cell too since the same Goku who beat him couldn't beat Cell.Goku literally only beat Broly cause he absorbed every one elses energy to become a SUPER Super Saiyan and make the big bad Broly have upset tummy until the next movie
>>495753483>zeni launderingSIR, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A HERO!
>>495755267>He's arguably weaker than Cell too since the same Goku who beat him couldn't beat Cell.You can at least excuse that Goku's power up to defeat Broly was temporary, so he wasn't as strong when fighting Cell.>which I don't know how they got away with that statement without Koyama busting in their office space with a katana.I think it's because Hatchiyack was from a different department, since it started as a game, and even one of the animated ones was more of a visual novel with animations, although once they made an Ova out of it and it had the Broly line, I guess Koyama just wasn't involved in it at all.>It's also funny how he conceded the title of strongest to Beerus. Wasn't he annoyed that Beerus being the strongest while looking so weak was silly?>I bet Toriyama having Goku talk about Broly being 'maybe as strong as Beerus' was to be nice to Koyama.Could at least have Koyama be somewhat involved with the movie if that was the intention.>Kinda like how he created Yajirobe and had Goku say he sound JUST like Krillin because Toriyama felt bad about killing off Krillin and putting his voice actor out of a job until he came back.Really? I wasn't aware of that, but I always felt the "You sound like Krillin" line was odd since Yajirobe was introduced so recently for Goku to be referencing his voice actress.
>>495755843Doesn't really change that Goku couldn't beat Cell at all and thus seemingly thought that trick wouldn't work either.
>>495735003>former helps with CIs while the latter makes sure you never die R1 if wanting to try to a R2 otk deckWhat are R1 and R2?
>>495755267you gotta remember the only reason Goku was able to beat Broly in that moment was because he hit an existing weak point and can't regenerate. Perfect Cell would've lost to the Instant Transmission Kamehameha if he also had a giant weak point in his chest.
>>495756324>Wasn't he annoyed that Beerus being the strongest while looking so weak was silly?Yeah, his blog post reads like he's genuinely butthurt about it.
>>495756324I don't have anything to back it up but I feel like Broly = Perfect Cell but Super Perfect Cell > Broly
I can't wait to play as mah nigga Majuub in Sparking Zero!
>>495755886Being a hero doesn't pay the bills
>>495756753Uub is a poo in the loo, not a kang.>>495756538Dunno, he seems to be taking it pretty well. And it make sense for Broly to be more actively scary since Beerus ended up being a neutral / distant ally while Broly is and stays an active murderous threat.
>>495751759But A13 was before Broly, so of course he'd be weaker
>>495756753Same. I was afraid i'd have to wait for the GTDLC
>>495756967And half-planetary is like, 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Tenshinhan level
My fellow patrollers, we must jump Trunks. he's trying to take my posters
ssj4 gogeta would solo the entirety of super while not even trying
People get mad about the DBs fixing everything as long as the big bad is defeated but I just find it funny that any DB character has a counter to the villain going 'Do it! Beating / killing me won't bring back all those people, I already won!'.
magetta would solo the entirety of gt while not even trying
>>49575713222nd Tien was arena level. Even I can beat Tien. Half planetary is more like Saiyan Saga level, so still weak regardless
>>495757275And yes, I said that because I saw this pic and it made me laugh
Big shame these two have never fought together
>>495757419Tenshinhan scales to Kame-sennin who vaporised the moon instantaneously with no visible debris remaining.
>>49575741922nd Tenshinhan was stronger than Roshi who blew up the moon, an event that's literally brought up in that very tournament.>>495757460That GoD rabbit is such a cool design, I wish the GoD kid squad was canon, it would give Pan and company something to do.
After all these years the jap dub of Goku screaming >SUPA SAYA-JIN THREEDAAAAAAFrom BoG still lives in my head rent freehttps://youtu.be/QhmiBqfudlk?si=ImXnW5puiRbJweXl (skip to 1min)
>>495757460latino KINGS will mod them into Sparking Zero! trust the process!
>>495757649>VOSTFRBASED
To this day I'm surprised anyone unironically like super.
>>495757737I feel like they will but I also feel like it will end up a tad too low on priority since we'd have to wait till people figure out move animations and how to make fitting models.Unrelated but I kinda wish they'd bring her and hop back and make them Galactic patrollers or have them act like super heroes, Sorrel gives off a Great Saiyamn vibe with how she acts and dresses> She's 99% physical attacks too so she'd fit perfect with a gun
>>495757909>make them Galactic patrollersWhy? The Galactic Patrol is literally worthless. It's like wanting a character to be brought back and made part of Springfield's police department.
>>495757860I never stopped liking fun, alas. It's fanfic, like the majority of DB media at this point, but it's fanfic I enjoy.
>>495756461>Perfect Cell would've lost to the Instant Transmission Kamehameha if he also had a giant weak point in his chest.It's also worth nothing Cell wasn't fighting at full power there, he only uses it once Gohan goes SS2. Although if Goku's kamehameha could still blow his upper half even while Cell is at full power it wouldn't make a difference (Since Goku's 20x Kaioken couldn't really hurt Freeza even though he was using 50%, but that is a rather extreme power difference too).>>495756538That's hilarious. It's even funnier he talks like Broly being a pushover is new. Is he just not aware Buu exists? Or GT?>I made him appear three times.It's weird he claims this when Bio Broly is a dissevice towards Broly, since Goten and Trunks are fully confident they can handle him and in the movie itself they handle pretty well and only start to lose once they prioritize saving people. And again, there's the ending with Goku not sounding worried about him, so "Broly is the strongest" doesn't sound believable with how weak he looks in Bio Broly.>>495756576Yeah it's more or less the impression I got too, the biggest measuring stick you can use is Gohan, since Broly beats him up casually, but Cell was also beating Gohan's ass before he went full power too.At least Broly looks stronger since he fought an entire group of Super Saiyans who couldn't do anything to him.
>>495758092>Is he just not aware Buu exists? Or GT?I think Koyoma was talking purely from a 'movie-only' perspective.
>>495758019That's fair. I tried the anime a while back and it wasn't for me
>>495757860I like the anime, it's not as good as the original manga but it has moments that are as good as the original manga's best.I did not like the DBS manga, it feel like one of the more boring fanmanga.
>>495758009More fitting since Merus was there, it would be nice to have them have some people stronger than Jaco around, plus who knows what universe 9's GP is like, universe 7's is ass but that's cause goku exist. Who can say that they aren't comprised of actually useful people since their universe is dominantly animal people and with interesting powers on occasion.It's better to put her in a place where she can actually stand out rather than have her stand by the Z fighters and be Yamcha but femaleI personally kinda wish she had a tree of might kinda style, imagine the Carrot of Might
>>495757164>"I'm not allowed to fight trunks anymore after...the incident"
>>495758637>More fitting since Merus was there,Which was retarded in and of itself.>it would be nice to have them have some people stronger than Jaco aroundThere are, they just aren't part of the galactic patrol because the galactic patrol are a backward incompetent local law enforcement org. That's the entire joke. They aren't the Green Lanterns, they are the cops from Dr Slump.>Who can say that they aren't comprised of actually useful people since their universe is dominantly animal people and with interesting powers on occasion.The galactic patrol can, their best elites instantly run away when they meet anyone on the level of a Frieza grunt or an adult saiyan pre-extinction. That's why they are stuck as the 'Galactic' patrol with only the milky way as territory.
>>495757860I liked the fights mostly, not fond of anime goku and the manga seems more like it is high hit or miss in areas. Like how it turned Morro from cool goat man to just another tori Alien man. Then it ruins bardock lore with his whole whish which felt like it invalidated a whole lot of goku's origins because his wish was for his sons to survive and on one hand it's semi sweet but on another it means Radditz merely lived because a wish was keeping him alive and all of Goku's hard work was partially because he actually did have other forces holding up for him.I feel that the manga ToP was better though, lot more varied fights and a lot less off screens, lesser characters get a bit more time to shine
>>495758247I'm not sure, him wording "In the world of Dragon Ball Z" sounds like he's talking about DBZ in general.Even if it's movie only, his mental image of Broly doesn't translate to what's shown onscreen, since he says he couldn't come up with opponents stronger than Broly yet Janemba exists. And he mentions he fell in a rut where he just brought back Broly three times since he was struggling to come up with stronger opponents yet Bio Broly looks weak with how well Goten and Trunks handle him whenever they aren't distracted from saving people (Broly is still stronger than them individually, but this is a far cry from the Broly from the first movie who could handle four super saiyans and Piccolo, and Second Coming Broly who, still looked more threatening than Bio Broly).
>>495758865>with only the milky way as territory.Was the universal quadrant system discarded? I know Super is flip-floppy on how it depicts its cosmology and Earth itself but how about the official canon situation?
>>495758637>>495758865>It's better to put her in a place where she can actually stand out rather than have her stand by the Z fighters and be Yamcha but femaleAnon, she's a TOP participant, putting her in the Galactic Patrol would be the biggest downgrade in existence.She's better off staying with her team
>>495757860Dragon Ball is a video game franchise and I like getting new characters, forms, and techniques to play with
>>495748884>We see Goku age strangely throughout Dragon Ball, generally looking a lot younger than he isExcept that wasn't a thing at all, you're looking at this retrospectively. Goku was visibly taller than Krillin and Upa, was visibly taller than Arale who was created to be 13, and after the timeskip Yamcha notes how Goku had gotten taller and both he and Krillin were taller than Chaozu who was 14. No one ever said anything about Goku having an unusual growth pattern during the arcs where he was a kid/teen. Toriyama just drew most young teens short.
>>495758963everywhere else is frieza's territory
>>495758954The thing is that in Koyama's headcanon, Broly is still stronger than all subsequent Z movie villains, as well as Buuhan and so on. He made tweets a few years back in which he said Broly is a multiverse buster.
>>495758865Again that's Universe 7's GP, they suck because Goku quite frankly out scaled the universe and only those near him got to keep up. Merus being there was neat since it meant Angels can have hobbies. The idea that space cops are cool exist in universe 3 had Catopesra and he was pretty cool as a space cop
>>495758963The official situation is the same as always.The universe is divided in four direction / 'quadrant', north, sout, east, west (taken from asian mythology and philosophy). Each direction / quadrant is overseen by a Deity (again, taken from mythology), called a Kai and contain 'countless' galaxies, which include the Milky way in the North / The northern quadrant.Sometime the direction have been refer as 'galaxy' but the more accurate translation would have been 'the north galaxies', which is why when we see Broly destroy an entire galaxy, King Kai just say 'the south galaxy is under attack!' instead of annihilated, because what he truly 'meant' was 'The South Galaxies are under attack'.
>>495759231Ah, you meant you wanted her to have her own Space Cops group, I misunderstood.>>495759160Bulma did say he looked younger than he was tho.
>>495759367In that vein I would have expected the Galactic Patrol would probably formally have jurisdiction over the whole northern quadrant, rather than just the Milky Way.
>>495758989Anon, she gets off screened in the anime and taken out by frost in the manga, as far as the story was concerned she was decent and only a fist fighter. The extent of her actual team was she had some kinda of dynamic with Hop since all the media and most of the shots that have them pair them as a duo of some kind, even on cards. The extend of them being participants is that they were kinda all there was and their universe was at the unironic bottom of the mortal scale being a 1.86.Their universe, as told by the wolfs, was an unironic shit hole.
>>495757164I'd happily join you but I'm tired and need sleep, just ask Zamasu, he'll join you on slapping some sense to the senseless and probably show you some God Splitter infinites along the way. And also cuddles
>>495759582You have to remember that the GP is 1: Supposed to only have a laughably small territory that keep them hidden from any actual threat like Frieza's Forces and 2: Only connected to DB in hidden / surprising way before DBS where Jaco just straight up showed up in the main group (Goku being the threat Jaco showed up to face was the entire manga's punchline twist).Them outright owning 1/4 of the universe accomplish none of that because 1: No way is Frieza sharing the fucking universe (Toriyama was always extremely literal about Frieza's title of Emperor of the Universe) to that extent and missing a force that's present throughout 1/4 of the universe and 2: The second Jaco said the word 'quadrant' or 'north galaxy', everyone would be like '...They are in the DB universe?!'.
>>495759938>Toriyama was always extremely literal about Frieza's title of Emperor of the UniverseWas he? Freeza isn't even a political ruler in the original manga, most uses of such a title were inserted by the anime. He was more of a businessman originally.
Funny note: she was like the only person ever smiling out of their universe. She is the Goku of Universe 9, she just wanted to fight
>>495760051Even in RoF, they say just hearing that Frieza is back would put 70% of the universe back under control.
>>495759187>He made tweets a few years back in which he said Broly is a multiverse buster.Koyama sounding a lot like Salagir... I wonder how much he would like DBM's "Broly's power increases with no limits" interpretation.
>>495760160But Freeza is virtually never actually addressed as an emperor, like it's not a title he is styled by. Closest is Cold being a Daio, which implies he's the political head if anything.
>>495760126I feel like you could make a killer post-apocalypse / Hokuto-No-Ken-like game in U9.Or some kino 'Kowloon Walled City' vibe game. Something like 'Kowloon Walled Solar System'.
>>495760160You Frieza players are lucky, Jaco isn't in S0 meaning you guys get to actually win a few matches this time
>>495759187It's weird that some games respected this mentality more or less, in Budokai 3 Broly is talked like he's stronger than Buu and in his story mode he can even kill Goku who can go SS3. There's also some weird game that puts his power level only slightly below Omega's.
>>495760309Why the fuck isn’t he in? He was such an obvious character to include.He did way more fighting than fucking King Jobber who got in.
>>495760269I feel like out of everyone, seeing more about her and why the fuck she is so carefree in their "steaming trash heap" of a universe. Even when she gets knocked out she seems like she was just happy to participate and has the same condition as Goku with the lock in face during fights.Honestly, she feels like her world would have fit in sandland as some other planet. I genuinely feel like she is the Goku equivalent based on the little we get from her, everyone else is too miserable
>>495760126>>495760269Also I love how consistent Toriyama is with the fact that shitty situations and living condition DON'T breed strength.Like Goku blossomed on the peaceful earth and all his kids are stronger than any being in the universe before them while Broly was stuck on the worst planet in the universal and had his abilities insanely stunted compared to his potential from it.U9 ended up being the weakest universe despite probably being the most hardcore but that just resulted in it's strongest essentially being glorified jackals that hide and gang up on people to win before collapsing if that fails.The Saiyans went through a complet home-planet annihilate event and constant genocidal wars only to end up fodders who wasted their potential and would get cleared by a single Namekian Champion while the U6 saiyans preserved their planets and had a much more peaceful and flourish culture and society, allowing them to grow into consistent protectors of the universe who's elites have powers that their U7 counterpart couldn't even imagine for their Gods.
>>495759679>Entire universe is a shithole>Have to deal with violent monsters everywhere>But beast girls lust after your rare human cockMight not be so bad of a place after all
>>495760558Same reason Shin isn't in: DLC fodder and maybe he shows up in Daima?
>>495760558they're saving him for the Galactic Patrol pack along with Merus and Sealas
>>495760673I find it funny that anyone from 7 or 6 could 100% wish hold another tourney against each other or just get their Super Dragon Balls and wish their universe wasn't shit but nobody bothered to.Imagine it, anyone, let alone 17 or zeno himself could easily actually fix their situation but nobody has been bothering. I don't think they really even have dragon balls over there sadly. Universe 9 really does deserve better
>>495760956I think the idea is that if you don't fix the people, any wish would be pointless since they'd just shit up anything you fix.That's why the TOP was made as a massive kick in the ass to everyone.
>>495761087The premise was Zeno was bored and that for the few brain cells his mind could manage between 2 of himself, he recalled that only a few universes are actually interesting so it would be better to just remove the useless ones cause they aren't anywhere close Goku tier fun. I feel Sorrel could befriend him but would be too weak to entertain
>>495760651U9 is unironically the universe most likely to play the 'Uber mega big name who'd have actually cleared the TOP suddenly shows up now' card in the future because their GoD and Kaioshin are genuinely that incompetent.Could even say the Trio knew and were like 'We genuinely thought you knew him but were too scared to ask him to join just like like us'.
Personally, my interpretation over the years has been that Freeza being a direct ruler is a misinterpretation by Toei that may have fed back into Toriyama over time as he forgot his original writing. Early Z makes it fairly clear that the whole organization's purpose is lifewiping and reselling planets, not governing them or anything. That's why King Vegeta existed(in dialogue), the Saiyans were self-governing, just involved in mercenary work for Freeza en masse.All other stuff like King Vegeta being a vassal to Freeza, "emperor of the universe", having a large number of planets under his control and so on are Toei fanfic. If I could see these in the manga I will retract that but that's how I remember it.We only see one planet actually under the control of Freeza's forces for any length of time, which is where the Ginyu Tokusentai is dispatched from. Vegeta retreats to the same planet and meets Cui, like the whole crew is there. That would be weird if they had many planets.I think Cold is a Daio of his own species' planet but no others. Insofar as the clan controls the rest of the galaxy it's via pressure and corruption and such, not literally as an official empire.
>Can't make an official what-if about her not being in a shit universe>Can't make a custom battle where she got even 3 matches deeper in the tournament>Can't make up bullshit about her getting to train with Goku or Dyspo to get stronger>Can't hold a custom battle with universe 9 vs Universe 4 and have her win so she can wish her universe wasn't a shithole>only Spics really cared about her and give her mods>Her only XV2 mod is old and outdated and Revamp won't bother adding herIt's another dark day for Sorrel, yet she's still probably smiling and fighting things back home.
>>495761397That's kind of a pointless discussion since as you said, even if it was a Toei misinterpretation, it ended up influencing Toriyama.
>>495761612If later material contradicts the original manga I will give precedence to the original manga, personally. It also gives me carte blanche to complain about it.
>>495761567>fighting things back home.Doubt it, U9 sounds like the kind of universe where once you're at the top of the shit pile, you don't really fight directly anymore.Similar to a Dragon in Shadowrun.>>495761681Can't really contradict the inner working of Frieza's faction because they are never addressed to any worthwhile extent.
>>495761681>It also gives me carte blanche to complain about it.You do not have a right to be annoying
>>495760262He declares himself emperor at the end of Superhttps://youtu.be/4mgqEHKs3GM?si=d3ikijNoD8PSnGan
>>495761763Yes I do
>>495761763If that was true, 4chan wouldn't exist.
>>495759160>mangaWhen people say Goku looks like a little kid, they're talking about the anime. He doesn't change nearly as much in the anime.
>>495761814That sounds fair then.
>>495761751We know very little of her, I and she is the only fucker out there with a smile. She is either fighting Hop for fun, or going around to beat on anyone willing to fight her. She doesn't look like she does much else though if she is a farmer, it just means she really is Bunnyku of Universe 9.Fighting is probably all there is left to do for fun if we're being real
Official article from the official website about Frieza's leadership: https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_1486.html
>>495762215>Frieza is the self-proclaimed emperor of the universePanel?
How do you think Daima will fare in video games past its hayday?GT someone always makes its way in, mostly due to nostalgia and how hype SS4 isI don't think people will clamor for Vegeta SS3 (mini) to be added to XV3 or Fighterz 2
What if they just sneak regular Shin in the daima pack, with the same moveset as always, and not Shin (mini) at all?
>>495762342It's definitely have an impact, even if only as a new 'obligatory step' to have Mira and Towa in.
>>495762342As long as this become a new standard, daima will be fine in my eyes
>>495762342it mostly depends on what powerups and techniques we get to seeI could see Glorio being the only one that gets in every game, but I could also see a bunch of elements becoming staples if they stand out enough
Wake me up when my girl is on the roster
>>495762525Goku! I warned you about eating Kinto-un!
>>495762414Maybe season's 2 Daima packThere is no way we're getting all of Daima and SH in one season
>>495762525A bit too Gear 5-y but a pretty good take on a more Wukong-like form for Goku.
>>495762342>People unironically believing the obviously fake leaks like SS3 VegetaRetard-kun it's after Z before Super so you ain't getting SHIT
>>495762886>it's after Z before SuperProof? I keep seeing people say that but I can't find anything that actually confirms it.
>>495762342They will always be added because it's a new series, and eventually not as DLC just like Super stopped adding characters like Hit and Goku Black as DLC.
>>495762493>>495762527If Glorio gets a badass form then I can see him being the de-facto Daima repThough that's dependant on Goku not getting a crazy new form>>495762525>>495762870>Toei sees how much money Gear 5 made>Thanks Luffy for beta-testing the idea>Brings it to Dragon Ball for the real cash to start flowing in
>>495762870>A bit too Gear 5-yI'm pretty sure that's the point
>>495763045It's just an assumption based off the characters, lack of characters, and the character appearances. They seem to be trying to stick to one continuity now so the chances of a new fanfiction realm being born from this is very unlikely
>>495763045neither pan nor bra are in it, but marron is. >>495762886why are you so desperate to push an agenda?
>>495763246>Toei sees how much money Gear 5 madeI don't think Gear 5 made all that much more money than usual. Seems to be about the same as Gear 4 in term of 'reveal hype', which was pretty good don't get me wrong but nothing that would influence other franchise.>Brings it to Dragon Ball for the real cash to start flowing inIronically they seem convinced of the exact opposite, where if they bring what DB 'beta tested' to One Piece, that's where the real cash will start to flow in, despite it having not worked at all for like a decade.Like seriously, why does the OP anime use DBZ sound effects?
sometime ago an anon told me they'd seen concept SS4 sketches by Revamp team members and i was real negative about the odds of them doing that–partially cause they haven't even recolored Blue. but i learned a couple days ago that some of the hair files that come with Revamp have rose color palettes even though there's no way to access them without seperate mods. so i come back to say maybe i was wrong, maybe one of the things coming with the full CaC Overhaul release will be Awakening skills for missing, canon forms like LSS, SS4, and Rose. maybe part of why Lazybone hasn't updated his transformations to support Revamp 5 yet is cause he's working with their team to release a big collaborative update.
>>495763430toei uses the same sfx library for everything. go watch slayers or precure and you'll hear them all there too.
>>495763402>>495763421So not confirmed yet?Also the demon realm isn't a fanfic, it's been part of DB for decades at this point. It's even talked about in the original manga.
>>495762543How come SKoT doesn't dress like this...
>>495763440Sounds like the mod will get a lot more interesting if you're right.
>>495763246I want Glorio's new form to be him doing all the usual power up pose but then he just pulls a bigger gun.
>>495763430OP definitely seems to have the preferential treatment when it comes to anime quality and marketingDB gets more and better games, so we can't be that mad>>495763527Isn't that sound library ancient by now? From the 70s or 80s?How much money does it take to have a smart guy in a room with a bunch of stuff to make cool noises?
>>495762543who dis?
>>495762342according to the leaks, vegeta doesn't go ss3 while mini, he uses it briefly while sparring against goku at the very beginning.Nothing has said the 'looks like prototype SS3' form is used by anyone but Goku
>>495763624Because Toriyama didn't draw her, next question.>>495763679I think Glorio will fight like Shiva from Sandland instead of being a powerhouse of his own.>>495763718>DB gets more and better games, so we can't be that madI mean, that's not like they're doing it on purpose, we're just lucky their 'best ideas' aren't as good as DB's staples.I'd still love a DB turn based game with an original story like OP Odyssee tho.
>>495763718nearly everyone has been using the same public domain sound library since the 50's. I remember in Rebuild 2.0 the sound used for Unit 02 getting corrupted was a soundbyte from original The Day The Earth Stood Still
>>495763728Sachie-chan, from a side manga written by Toriyama and illustrated by the guy who did Video Girl Ai. One-shot about a pair of earthlings getting recruited to Galactic Patrol, she fights by eating special instant ramen that temporarily boosts her strength.
>>495763536Not confirmed but very likely. We'll see. I'd be happy to see SS3 return to the throne
>>495763925Thanks, copyright laws and dogshit sound / music companies.
>>495763963> she fights by eating special instant ramen that temporarily boosts her strength.Certainly sounds like classic Toriyama writing. She seems fun, not a design I expected but makes more sense now.
You guys buying Sparking Zero? I'm a BIT on the fence but it looks so fucking good.
>>495764009All it does is prove how uncreative people are. If you let them pull sound bites from other stuff then they'd just reuse those sound effects instead.
>>495764097She also has a birth mark on her butt that looks like the Galactic Patrol emblem.
>>495764265kek, now that's full classic Toriyama writing.
Hear me out: Drunken Fist Daima Goku.
>>495762543>>495764265she's kinda hot not gonna lie
>>495764560Sounds like fun
>>495763885>I'd still love a DB turn based game with an original story like OP Odyssee tho.Reminds me of how much fun I had in the Budokai 2 story modeMaybe something like this could work:>Grid based map with turn by turn movement>RPG stats and all that entails>Fights are a mix of APM JRPG and beatem up
>>495764698>APM JRPGNo idea what that is.
>>495764560Goku has crazy monkey as his counterpart to drunken fist, which will be brought back in the form of perfected saiyan style ultra instinct once the manga resumes
>>495764651Thanks, anon>>495764782>Goku has crazy monkey as his counterpart to drunken fistI know, I'd just find it funny for Goku to finally use Drunken Fist now that he's a 'kid' again since it was the ONE thing he couldn't copy in OG DB due to never having drunk alcohol and not actually knowing what 'drunk' is.That and it's a martial art master classic so Goku should get a go at it.
>>495764737Wrong acronym, my bad. I meant when you have a bar that charges up and you can take an action once its filled up like how FF7 does itInstead of waiting you'd fight melee/guard/dodge in the meantime
>>495764782>>495764965Doubly so because of the trailer restaurant action scene that's CLEARLY inspired by Jackie Chan.
>>495764615I don't know if I'm into the full lips, and my mind keeps reading her design as "cute" rather than all that attractive if I'm being honest. I can't even really say why, even that fanservice underwear shot here >>495764265 isn't doing as much for me as like, Videl would in the same position.
What's your genuine favorite fanmade design / form for Goku?
>>495765421>he doesn't consider 'cute' and 'sexy' to be congruent
>>495766131The form where he's a good husband and puts Chichi through the headboards nightly
>>495766131lava goku
>>495766284That's just canon.>>495766359Pic?
>>495766131I'm almost tempted to reply Goku DripI mean, aside from SS5, do people even know any fanmade new transformations?
>>495766148Not at all, if anything they usually go hand in hand. Twintails Videl is objectively one of the cutest girls in Dragon Ball, but she's also hot as fuck. 23rd Budokai Chichi also is very cute but i can easily picture her as very sexy too. That girl though only reads as "cute" in my mind. I'm not sure why.
>>495766131I like his DB Sai version
>>495765058>>495764698Meant ATB JRPG, as in Active Time BattleNot APM, actions per minute...
>>495766453There's a bunch. Like this one even if it's overdesign even for a Gold Saint Armor.
>>495766739This one or the next one fit him more I feel, even if it's a shame that it's just Goku wearing pre-existing armors.Anyway all this to say I'm not asking anything well known or big, just whatever fan design you saw that you liked the most.
>>495766565>Videl>hot as fuckfull pleb
>>495766595>dragon garrow leePicked up
>>495766890Also I think the 'Savior from Heaven' form is pretty well known now too
>>495766896Literally the best girl in DBZ>nb4 HAGma
>>495766131
>>495766896>>495767031Videl is easily the 3rd hottest DB girl after Bulma and 18She might rank first in Super, BoG Videl>DBS Bulma>>>tracksuit 18
>>495767031she's generic as fuck
>>495766896Look man, I know what I'm about. I've known what I'm into for over 20 years now. My tastes won't change just because she's popular with the masses.
>>495766896What do you mean?Also Sai's version of Goku is really the entire thing's highlight IMO, the rest isn't all that interesting to me.
>>495766595what is with dragonball fans and ugly forehead scars?
>>495767189Oops, meant for >>495766925He really has a lot of good panel
>>495767035Unironically pretty cool. Just need some slight changes like the DBs not being basically copypasted from how they are on Omega Shenron IMO.
>>495766565Honestly it might be as simple as you having never seen any smut of her?Either way you should go check out the other Galactic Patrol manga, hers and Jiya's. They're fun.
>>495766131The execution isn't the best but I like the concept.
>>495766131Legendku, he felt so close to the real deal but with a more monkey like flare to him especially for his super saiyan form
>>495767728I like Legend, it's pretty cool if you ignore the Vegeta wank and nothing make sense.Personally, I'm a sucker for Old Goku designs.
>>495766896Gohan won.
>>495766131This is basically a better version of Xeno Goku's outfit.
>>495766131The base form version's face is weird but I think it really work for SSJ3
>>495768334>U6 saiyans could have had an alien feudal Japan aesthetic instead of mudhut thugs
>>495762525Don't know which one I like best.
>>495762525>>495768494For Wukong Goku, either you go slight improvement of the official version like this.
>>495768641Or you go full regalia, 3 Kingdoms Style, no in-between.
>>495768803I don't know, I think that one hit a pretty good middle ground.
>>495767280Gohan vs Cell probably
>>495767280I've literally never seen the forehead thing before, any exemple?
>Goku gets a fantastic Wukong inspired new form in Daima>Can only use it in the Demon realm for reasonsWould that be an acceptable outcome? Relying on merch and games to keep a form alive has worked fine for SS4 and to a lesser extent for SS3 too past BoG
>>495762543>>495764265Katsura my hero...
>>495769773>Would that be an acceptable outcome?Yes, I'd be very happy. Especially tying it to the demon realm / something in the demon realm would truly make it unique.Especially since it can just be brought back next time we have a demon realm adventure and incentivize the writers to not just discard the place after the initial daima story.
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>>495770027Evil Caulifla sex...I despise Amino with the same burning hatred Baby has towards Saiyans
I just watched the original Broly movie and man, it's way worse than I remember. The whole thing about Paragus enslaving those midgets to build a fake city to trick Vegeta takes way too much time and is completely pointless since Vegeta completely ignored the whole king thing and just went along because he wanted to fight the legendary super saiyan (and when he finds him he just shits himself immediately?). Same thing with the comet, why did Paragus even bother with that convoluted plan instead of just having Broly kill everyone? It's not like he's afraid of having Broly fight at all since he was attacking the south galaxy at the start of the movie, and Vegeta's attacks had no effect on him even while restrained so he should be strong enough. People meme about Goku's crying but that's the best written part of the movie compared to everything else. Classic Broly really gets by in nothing but design.
>>495770027That's just copy pasted from Sai Goku tho.>>495770119I literally never understood what Amino was, I clicked on that website like once or twice and didn't understand shit.
>>495770197you know how fandom dot has a wiki for everything? it's like that. You make an 'amino' forum for whatever and invite people to it, and each amino forum/board is a seperate app on your phoneI always found it really funny how unheard of it is on 4chan since so much anime discussion that happens these days takes place in anime aminos
>>495770150Every Z movie is an unbelievably retarded clusterfuck and actively deducts my IQ when I watch them. Other than the character designs it's not like the ideas are very interesting either, they're all just blatantly copying an actual story arc from the series, often down to the same dialogue and scenes. Broly is actually the most original one. Koyama is one of the worst writers I have ever seen
>>495767134>bulmaSlut, disloyal, hag>18No personality>>495767154Hotblood tomboy. The only girl in the series even remotely comparable is blonde Launch (second-best girl, by the way)
>>495770427Is more twitter and reddit babble or actually interesting stuff happens there?
>>495767508You know you may be right, I might be overthinking it
>>495770150>>495770465Z movies are carried by the fights and designs and are also the reason DB has such a 'ashktually, it has no plot or character and Goku always wins!' reputation amongst retards and redditors.
>>495770150While someone's shitting on that movie I'm gonna say it, that shot where Goku and Piccolo attack Broly at the same time and he dodges every hit (and blocks a few with his knee)? Even as a teen I found it profoundly stupid. I just find it highly impossible that two warriors with such rich experience couldn't possibly coordinate and find a two-angle trajectory that could hit a mass that large moving in such a limited range. Just didn't feel logically plausible. Literally took me out of the film, I felt the integrity of Broly as a threat was damaged.
>>495767334>>495767189I like how he's basically coaching Vegeta through the fight. The tiny little hints of Goku peeking through the murk. It legitimately makes him a more interesting character than Saiyan Saga Vegeta was.
>>495770716Sai Goku is literally the most interesting part of the manga, Earth Vegeta was boring as hell.Sai Goku is one of the best Fanmade Gokus to me and would just need a few personality adjustment to feel more like Goku and he'd be perfect.It's a shame DBM complete squandered the potential of the Goku from the Super Saiyan / 'lost his shit from loneliness' universe because he also had the makings of an interesting fanmade Goku. But nope, all that wasted for more Vegeta wank.
>>495770491>No personalityYou might say that, but you'd switch places with Krillin in a heartbeat if you had the chanceBlonde Launch is great too, but her regular self is better wife material>>495770691Looking cool is more important than making sense, especially in the old movies
Remember how in Movie 6 the entire first half of the movie is them fighting and getting owned by random generic robots, until suddenly Piccolo gets the idea "actually guys, if we concentrate all our power in our fists we can punch through them" and then suddenly they all start winning and killing the robots with ease
tree of might is absolute kinoperfect charactersperfect fightsperfect unique movesperfect plotperfect perfection
>>495771251It completely misunderstands the themes of the story, but it does look and sound very nice
>>495770716>>495770956Also I love how Vegeta lose the fight due to the sheer fact that you're not beating Goku in an actual full-on fight without breaking every bone in his body or killing him.
Since we're talking about DB Sai, I really like Goku's Gyoza Gun in it. It remind me of Shallot's moves and the fact it has variants is so Goku, it was neat.
>>495763663i'm anticipating that, and more eye options for the female characters. the male Saiyans have way more eyes based on other characters right now than the girls do. not that i'm complaining, the mod is incredible, i just look forward to the CaC Overhaul coming outta beta is all.
>>495771207Cyclopian Guards were so damn cool all things considered. Glad they weren't fodderized.
>>495772149It's a damn shame the actual fight is impossible to fight in good quality.
>>495771134I'd swap with Gohan first. The issue with blue Launch is she gets no development. She basically exists to be the setup for the personality switch gag. Blonde gets more screentime, more lines, and more depth. She starts out as an evil bankrobber willing to kill children, ends willing to risk her life for her friends and cries when Krillin is killed. She is even willing to become a housewife for Tien, in her own warped imagining of what a housewife is. Blue Launch meanwhile just giggles when the silly old turtle man gives her funny tickles.
>>495772635weird how neither the actual androids arc nor the androids movie had any mass produced robot fodder
any chance the final build will give rage trunks ground destruction as part of his walking animation? or maybe make it an equipable custom thing
>>495767508Imagine wearing your butt's birthmark as a medal
>>495770641World Strongest is original tol
>>495774854>>495767508
i hadn't thought about it before now, but have we seen any footage of characters being knocked down a transformation or back to base because they got stamina broken and smashed?
Just read through all of Sai, wish I hadn't because it's so good. Finding out it's on permanent hiatus is like a gut punch, I was really getting into it
>>495775362I don't remember that being a thing in Sparking. That's Budokai.
For me, it's old Dragon Ball MUGEN websites. The heart and soul of a human's creativity.
>>495775362You can't lose a transformation in Sparking! you can only choose to transform back to base or a higher form, it's always your choice
>>495775562yeah, the ps2 sparkings would have needed a cutscene to hide the loading for the character switch
>>495684685Note is pure!
>>495771251They gave all the earthlings unique opponents to fight and ACTUALLY has them lose every fight and have Goku beat them on his own.
>>495767926This guy looks like an Overwatch character ngl
>>495777910I'm pretty sure Genji has almost that exact outfit as a skin, just with the armored arm on the other side
>>495776491If they added SS4 Note to Sparking Zero it would break peopleShe might even become more popular that the U6 girls overnight
If I don't see parmesan shower in ginyu's moveset, I'm not touching him. I will forfeit my match willingly if we body swap and I don't see parmesan shower in my movelist
>Watching those old dragonball movies Man, I forgot how much Kaioken hurts like a motherfucker whenever Goku has to resort to it he always sounded in pain whenever he tried right down to the iconic Kamehameha vs Galic Gun scene, seeing it again in super being spammed so carelessly with Goku being able to go x20 now without even showing stress, pain or bracing kind of annoys me, but I suppose it's only natural given by the time he fought Freiza he was able to use it x5 without anybody even catching on he was using Kaioken in that fight until King Kai pointed it out to them and that Goku had gotten so skilled with it he could use it without verbally shouting it out let alone bracing himself for it like in the saiyan saga. When you think about it on that grounds it's no wonder none of the humans dared try to learn it, none of them are on Goku's level as a martial artist let alone have bodies physically capable enough to withstand the strain, well Piccolo does but should he try in theory he'd just be constantly harming and regenerating himself which would eat up his power therefor neglecting the the power boost tobegin with. Kaioken truly is a dangerous technique it's no wonder only a saiyan, a core person or a majin could utalize it to it's fullest. If Cell had a bit more brains he probably could have used it to increase his power level at an even faster rate due to the regeneration he got from Freiza and Piccolo's dna, breaking his body, regenerating it, abusing the zenkai saiyans get, Cell could have become extremely strong extremely fast that not even Gohan would be able to keep up with that.I wish we ould have stupid dicussions like this often, I imagine you guys all wearing Fu like outfits while doing so until someone says someone's waifu is shit and everybody starts fighting.
>>495775821that's valid, i just thought it'd be cool to clown my buddies when i knocked the Super Saiyan out of 'em. lol>>495775562i would've sworn that feature was in Sparking, but you're right, it was just the Budokai games. darn.
>>495780402Cell's regeneration still consumes ki. He could maybe use Kaioken in short bursts but over time it would just drain and wreck him.
>>495780402>seeing it again in super being spammed so carelesslyafter using it against Hit, Goku was so fucked up he couldn't even teleport properly and King Kai warned him that further fuck-ups could completely destroy his very ability to control his kithen in the Future Trunks arc he used it just once out of desperation just to land a single kick that seemed like it hurt him more than Fused Zamasu and left him unable to move for a whileI'd say he was abusing it in the ToP, but its also a point that he seemingly learned from his gambit against his rematch against Hit and was shown using his own ki to speed up his body's natural healing when he got a short breather
>>495780895Cell has infinite stamina, doesn't he? Same as the other androids and Buu. Can only be defeated with one big move that completely atomises him
>>495781075No, that's why Goku gave him a senzu, because Cell lost a lot of energy from their fight and wasn't at his full power anymore.
>>495781035>>495780895Ki really is an interesting thing, I'm surprised none of the characters have ever expressed interest in harnessing it or learning about using it for more than just throwing punches especially the brainacs like Bulma and Gohan, then again Gohan's field of study now officially is biology specifically insect biology which is very interesting considering his two biggest enemies were oversized insects. Guess that book on ki will never happen in canon now.
>>495780895the thing about saiyan zenkai's is that even when they don't give you a boost, you still rapidly get all your ki back. that was how Cell had enough ki to regenerate from his core in just a few minutes>>495781075this is mostly my interpretation, but even though the androids have 'infinite stamina', they still demonstrably have a cap on how much ki they can generate per second. and I'd argue the whole reason Cell needed both of them to reach his perfect form is because just existing in that state consumed energy faster than either android could output on their own. Contrawise he regained his perfect form after nearly dying because the boost he got made his own natural ki pool big enough to compensate for only having one 'infinity energy engine' or however you want to call it
>>495781329Cell simply didn't lose that much ki in the first place(he just destroyed his body), and he got a boost from the quasi-SSJ2 state he entered that we call SPC, similar to Goku on Namek for example.
>>495781307>then again Gohan's field of study now officially is biology specifically insect biologythe whole reason Gohan was interested in that bug was because it had the power to explosively raise its ki the same way a super saiyan can. I'd say that still points to an interest in understanding ki beyond the lens of mystic martial arts and instead as a natural, scientifically study-able phenomenon
>>495781441>Cell simply didn't lose that much ki in the first placehe puked up 18after entering the 'power-weighted form' which burns a lot of kiand his whole gambit of his self destruct was he thought if he was going to die anyway he should just vent all his ki at once in a single huge attack even if it destroys his body. it's not like he held back and used just enough ki to kill himself
>>495781035Even in the ToP it still presented as desperate at first.>Uses it against Jiren>Doesn't work>Krillin: With how strong he is now I'm sure he can now use a Blue x20 Kaioken>Whis: Unfortunately that's what he just did (and it still didn't work).It was arguably after that he started having some questionable uses against Kefla (fair enough since he needs t get to UI somehow) and some not-so-understandable uses (that most people probably nver even notice because they're literally one second long) against Ribrianne's dude succesors and Anilaza. And then they needed to have him use it constantly to have him on a more or less equal level to Blue Evolution Vegeta.
>>495781472Imagine if Gohan's study of ants and his own saiyan biology one day allowed him to develop a method for humans to achieve a similar transformation as an excuse to bring the rest of the cast back into relevance.
>>495781645He certainly lost a lot of ki but I think it's clear he didn't lose that much that he couldn't regenerate his full body. The condition for a zenkai is to recover from near-death, it doesn't happen before, so he still ran on leftover ki for that process. In line with the infinite energy engine point you mentioned, most likely Cell bottoms out at roughly #17's power level.
>>495751759>>495754894As a Z Broly zealot i find it super funny that the biggest Brolyfag is his creator. He's literally us lmao.
>>495781713>And then they needed to have him use it constantly to have him on a more or less equal level to Blue Evolution Vegeta.to be fair in realtime that wasn't very long either. by that point the ToP was fuckdeep in namektime
Cabba can't beat SSJ4 GogetaCabba can't beat Gogeta BlueCabba can't beat Super Saiyan GogetaCabba can't beat Gogeta KiokenCabba can't beat Kid GogetaBut Broly can beat all of them.
I think it's definitely possible to kill Imperfect Cell by tiring him out and reducing his ki to such a point that his regeneration can't keep up anymore. From Semi-Perfect onwards, it's unclear because the engine in him might always provide enough energy to keep him at such a minimum baseline for him to fully regenerate and get a zenkai, but even in that case, his ki can be reduced to that point to make it easier to obliterate him. This could have happened in the Cell Games, and SPC probably wasn't at 100% full ki capacity anyway(and neither was SSJ2 Gohan).
>>495782628But cabba can see why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch!
>>495782628cabba can beat his dick while kefla gets her back blown out by jaco
I'M GONNA BLOW YOU TO BITS
>>495782628Tenkaichi 3 taught me Broly and Super Gogeta are on equal footing>>495782973Cabba is an elite warrior who fights for the peopleHe'd never let kids eat processed garbage
>>495783146FIGHT MEWOOOOOOOOOOOOAOAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
>>495776491I want to kiss Note
>>495784197I thought she was for Beat
>>495783146>Did someone say "blow?"
>update phone>it wont charge anymoreEVERYONE, GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY
Is BT1 still worth playing?
>>495785031It wasn't even worth playing as a kid over Neo and Meteor
>>495777910Pretty sure the design was based on one.
>>495784902
>>495785343And why is that?
Should I bite? How does it play with a controller and zero motion controls?
>>495781307Bulma doesn't care because mystical shit bore her or is something she really doesn't 'get' like the martial do.Gohan is a scholar but we never dwell on his research outside of DBO saying he basically popularized ki knowledge on Earth, also he already understands Ki.
>>495781645>>495781753Cell had infinite energy, at least after absorbing 17 and 18. That's why he could do full body regen while Piccolo get winded from regenerating his arms a few times.
>>495785569I don't know about controler but it's worth the money, there's a stupid amount of content for that price.
>>495785759Infinite energy to the level that those could produce themselves. It means he at best cannot drop below their power level, not that he is always at full power.
You guys think SSJ4 and SSGSS are on the same level of power?
>>495786154No, that's ridiculous. Per BoG, SSJG massively surpasses even Potaro fusion in terms of multiplier, whereas GT guides suggest Buu Saga Vegetto already surpassed SSJ4.
>>495786261<:(
>>495786154Yes, because monke :)
I do think that Toyotaro will work on Dragon Ball for another 10 years.
>>495784902\o/
>>495785475no in-game transformations
I hate bulma so goddamn much
>>495787812Vegeta...
>>495787297How's he been doing so far?
>People claim Daima is before Super>Shin is himself and not fused with KibitoThey didn't unfuse until the U6 tournament guys, that they are here means it's after that.
>>495788756did kibitoshin show up in BoG or RezF at all?
>>495789034Right at the start of BoG when the kais sense Beerus waking up.
How long until Legends brings in characters from Dragon Ball babies?
my hype for spaking died, the game looks rushed, they only focused on the number of characters
What do we know about the demon realm in actual canon? So no Xenoverse or Heroes shit.
If it had Android 21 you'd be singing a different tune.
>>495789670Surprised that they haven't already. iirc they had Gamma 1 and 2 in there soon after SH's first trailer. Literally based only on what the trailer showed and only voiced in JP (Until a later update) because there was no EN trailer at the time.
>>495789835Dabura is from there. Toriyama claims evil Shinjin go there to become Makaio. That's it
>>495788756The Mini magic made them defuseIt's still before SuperThere is no way a Goku whose punches can shake the very universe is gonna go on an adventure with a little girl, a weak Kai and a guy with a gun
>>495790194nta, but Goku was surprised when he saw them defused in the tournament. So either they fuse again or it retcons Super.
>>495790194And then they refused so they can defuse again in Super?
>>495790307>>495790339Undoing the magic makes them fuse again because Shin forgot to remove the potaraIt'd also make for a fun gag
Leave Fused Zamasu to me!
>>495684685DORAGONDORAGON PAAWADO RAGONDORAGON PAAWAPAAWAPAAWAPAAWAAAAAADORAGON PAAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Would you like the option to have VC/proximity chat(muffled yosha getting closer) in your matches?https://twitter.com/Extralongdokkan/status/1838380581224329421?t=DvCCbWPkVm4pRr8XuVdQnA&s=19
>>495790824Absolutely
>>495790696>This did not spawn countless fetish fanartIt was a simpler time
>>495790824No because the only people I intend to play with online are people I'll already be in voice chat with on our private discord server
>>495791029>he doesn't want the extra immersion
>>495790696>BurumaWhat a weird translation. We know she's Bulma for like 30 years now
>>495789778True but sauce?
I can name the one thing sparking zero doesn't have that will piss EVERYONE off, if it did...don't believe me?PEOPLE OF CONTON CITY And now you're mad
>>495791102Official manga translation gets weird at times
>only 2 DBZ mods for Slay the SpireWeird, with how many card games the series got I'd have expected lots of DB fans to play StS
>all of the Goku's, Vegeta's, Future Trunks, and Adult Gohan's don't just share all their outfits and accessoriesSo unnecessarily limiting, but modders will have fun.>no Bojack outfit for Gohan, or undershirt outfit for Broly (Super)I smell DLC.
>>495790824it'd just be loud mexican/russian kids talking shit
>>495785569If you like card games, worth it for the price. Just note the game also has a demo on steam if you want a sampler for its gameplay since it's not comparable to most contemporary card games like Yugioh, Magic the Gathering or even Duel Monsters.
>>495786154in canon it doesn't matter because they're not in the same series, if you wanna be a powerscale nerd that reads guides made by random people go ahead
>>495791185>SauceLAZY AS FUCK NINGEN, USE FUCKING IMAGE SEARCH YOU BUM OF A FUCK! I get Yandex/Saucenao covers 90% of images but if it doesn't show up there, give Google image search a search a shot before crying for sauce.>>495792672As one who has played StS, the issue is probably just trying to translate the cards from one game to another.
>>495791185https://nhentai.net/g/247199/This is consistently the most popular 21 doujinshi, and she grows a dick once the sex starts...
>>495796963zamasu, i want you to try those methods on that image and tell me what you getand then apologise to that anon for you being a stupid bitch
>>495796963Cropped images can't be recognised by searchers.
>>495791949It's just different valid interpretations of the names, Viz has many fuck ups but their naming convention isn't one of them.And no, I don't blame them for Vegerot, Vegito makes no sense in english even if it sounds better.
>>495799356It would've been better to just have Kakarotto from the beginning. That's less of a problem than Vegerot is.
What do you guys think are going to be hidden in Sparking Zero's game files, besides stuff from Super Hero and Daima.
>>495799836Maybe a scrapped costume or two. Even if they never get finished.
>>495799836Goku's nude model.Pan's flat chest which isn't normally visible because the game has no camera angles looking up her shirt.3 scrapped story modes.
Stephanie Nadonly actually confirmed to be voicing Daima Goku.
>>495799836i'm betting on there being a few strings implying the existence of a cut SS1 caulifla and/or third trunks (super) form, but nothing beyond a few code references because they got thrown out earlyand then maybe the menu screen stages will actually be labeled as 'stages' in the code which'll set all the doomfags off since we don't actually have a kami's lookout stage
>>495800321Zoomer here. Why are people so obsessed with her. The other chick isn't even bad enough to warrant the constant whining for her to come back. Is it a nostalgia thing?
>>495800321Oh thank god, Colleen just didn't sound right voicing Kid Goku
>>495800546>Is it a nostalgia thing?Isn't it always? If Eric Vale was replaced as Trunks by someone who doesn't sound like he smokes 7 packs of cigarrettes a day everyone would be complaining that "it's not the same" even if the new replacement did a better job.
>>495800546>can't catch a break from neckbearded nostalgiafags as Kid Goku and Gohan>can't catch a break from neckbearded sub purists as LuffyI feel bad for her. She's a solid actress
>>495800546It is a nostalgia thing. But she was better for "Kid" (Teen) Goku than Kid-"Teen" (Young) Gohan. She just brings that loveable rascal energy to Goku. Colleen is stellar as Gohan, imo.
There will never be another Norio Wakamoto.
>>495800546>Is it a nostalgia thing?no doubt, the people who can't get over nadolny are likely to also be the people who actually prefer gohan monologuing about 16 loving life with generic faulconer music over unmei no hi which is blatantly the wrong opinion
>>495801757Hot take but I wish he spoke a bit faster. He really drags his Cell lines sometines.
Imagine having to listen to any western mutts in Dragon Ball, lmao?
So, assuming the next big Dragon Ball game is Xenoverse 3, are they going to model the visuals after Super hero or Daima the way SPIKE did for Sparking Zero, or was that just a one-time thing for Sparking Zero?
>>495801757every time he comes up i fear the inevitable, there's no replacing him
Only a matter of time before>MY SKIN IS COLDgets a huge amount of flak, but there's still pushback.
https://youtu.be/HS7Uqvi3nkYGeneral Impressions>Whoever is the voice at the beggining is struggling with those namekian words. Fair enough since it's supposed to be a bunch of nonsense anyway.>Demon Gremlin guy is fine>Purple Kai is a bit generic. Not much to go off with him>Female Kai is just doing the "seductive voice" every english female VA does for that kind of role.>Maybe it's because I haven't heard her myself in anything that isn't over a decade old by Stephanie sounds a bit off.>Glorio has that generic "stoic english dub voice" there's like 50 VAs who do this and they all sound the same>Pansy sounds way too old for the type of character she's presented as, regardless of what her age might turn up to be.>Shin only makes a bunch of noises so I can make uch of an opinion , at least it's someone new doing the voice.>No Vegeta or Piccolo voice so far. Please for the love of god don't be Sabat pitched up or something. I hate that they do that for Kid Vegeta.
>>495797213I see you are introducing the unkowning to some culture
>>495801993I wonder if he's like that in general, his Dracula also drags some lines, and I think Johnny too?
>>495797429>>495799320I got >>495797213's link via google image search as the first link after you scroll down from the definition of art. Yandex and Saucenao aren't the only options listed even if they work for 90-95% of images. I will not apologize for the ignorance of mortals.
>>495807082lens didn't work and normal image search just got me this, so i'm curious to know how your scrawny green ass actually got anything of relevance
>>495742894idk buff Kaioken to be actually good instead of a very situational transformationMake 2nd/3rd/Final forms for Frieza race that you can customize which transformation looks like Add absorption forms for Buu race that either just changes your clothing and/or copies the opponents movesOrange form & namekian fusion for green slugsMake Power Pole a flat buff and change your attack style to use the power pole
I've spent months trying to get hype for Tenkaichi 4, primarily because 1-3 were some of my favorite games. But I have almost zero interest in most post-Z content, and the new VAs for characters like kid Gohan/Goku and Frieza are deflating. Should I bite the bullet, are acknowledge the game just isn't for boomer DBZ fans?I was massively disappointed in Xenoverse, which might also be fueling some pre-emptive buyer's remorse.
absolute cinema
>>495751332I miss it when people were grossly overestimating Z Broly's power level stating that he was SSJ3 level or that he could beat SSJ2 Teen Gohan
>>495810394Koyama probably thinks he could do both of these.
>>495809137I'm maining Roshi just for this.
>>495742894Babidi's MagicSpirit Bomb Absorbed100% MAX PowerPure ProgressSuper Maximum Lightspeed ModeGod of DestructionLight of the Makyo StarMetalization of the Big Gete StarTrue Divine Water SippyEvil Divine Water SippyNeo-Tuffle Machine Mutant InfectionDragon Ball Absorbedalso every single weapon in the series from Trunk's sword to the bansho fan to Janemba's sword to Dabura's sword to anything else that's slipped my mind could be made into an awakening like power pole was
Is it safe to want SPIKE to make One Piece Burning Blood 2 or another Jump game or was Sparking Zero's quality a one time thing?
>>495803135>>No Vegeta or Piccolo voice so far. Please for the love of god don't be Sabat pitched up or something. I hate that they do that for Kid Vegeta.Kakarot had the guy who plays Deku in MHA as kid Vegeta, they'll probably do that again.
>>495811370some of those could be very cool to see, but I'm 100% they will add any of those
>>495811943pure progress and lightspeed mode are particularly annoying because they are literally already in the game as awakenings but apparantly they're too good for our grand poobah marysue to learn, unlike ultra instinct, beast, or ssbe
>>495788756You clearly see them reacting to the fusion being undone in the trailer
>>495742894>NamekiansGiantEither a mission where you split with, fight and fuse with your evil half or add in a story about some Namekian Time Patrol character that gets beaten to near-death and fuses with youPotential ReleasedOrangeOrange giant >BuuPure formSkinny/fit formSplitting from and absorbing your evil halfAbsorption (could be limited to a certain selection of 'boss' characters who have a few predetermined stat boots and movesets)Frieza raceUp to 4 limiter forms that you can customize during character creation - you start off in first form.Golden form/Palate change >HumansPower pole and nimbusNo Ego zoneCustomizable robot mechMax Power
>>495809137Fuck Yamcha
>>495812678He wasn't in the ToP
>>495813464nta, but why is that? And why was he excluded from ROF?
>>495791295I feel like she gets louder every update
>>495813637Toriyama doesn't recognize Yamcha as a fighter anymore, his fans are lucky he even remembers him. He's too irrelevant in Tori's eyes to be Oolong status, but he hasn't gone the way of LaunchTFS and internet means have completely rotted the normie fanbase's brains to the point where they genuinely think he's still weaker than a SaibamanToei and Bamco play into the memes and only include him to shit on himToyotaro is the only person willing to throw Yamcha a bone and his presence in the Moro arc and that throwaway line in the ToP were more than likely all him, but bones are probably the best he can do
>>495813950>TFS and internet means have completely rotted the normie fanbase's brains to the point where they genuinely think he's still weaker than a SaibamanIt's always been funny to me that Masako made such a huge fit over that page of Krillin and 18, but he and the rest of the TFShitters had no problem shitting on Yamcha for like a decade.
>>495801254They knew nobody would watch anything with her terrible voice as the lead so decided to get back somebody who hasn't voiced the character in 15 years.
For over a decade I completely forgot Bra was a character that existed
>>495813950>TFS and internet means have completely rotted the normie fanbase's brains to the point where they genuinely think he's still weaker than a SaibamanYamcha has been a joke for far longer than that. The "Yamcha Games" in Tenkaichi 3 were a thing for a reason.>>495813637>nta, but why is that? And why was he excluded from ROF?For RoF Tien said he didn't tell Yamcha or Chiatzu because it was too dangerous for them. For the tournament Goku and co. didn't even consider him i the anime, and in the manga Tien and Roshi assume he's the last member but then Goku arrives with Freeza.
>>495814754>It's always been funny to me that Masako made such a huge fit over that page of Krillin and 18What?
>>495813950>Toei and Bamco play into the memes and only include him to shit on himLiterally just the dub
>>495813637>nta, but why is that?He said he was busy to play hard to get and Goku took it at face value.
>>495815928Yamcha fronting Vegeta to try and win back Bulma only to cave 2 seconds into gravity training and crawl away wasn't a dub-only scene
>>495815928>Literally just the dub
>>495760510the extreme on the other end is Attack of the Saiyans - saiyan saga Goku and friends can beat him
>>495814754>It's always been funny to me that Masako made such a huge fit over that page of Krillin and 18What fit?>but he and the rest of the TFShitters had no problem shitting on Yamcha for like a decade.At least by late TFS there were other jokes around him besides Yamcha being weak (Since he backtalks Vegeta once or twice and has snarky littles here and there), but too little too late.>>495815928DBS had an episode which ended with Yamcha doing his death pose after a baseball game.
>>495816363That's literally an episode centered around him where he saves the day several times, how is that shitting on him?
>>495816551>DBS had an episode which ended with Yamcha doing his death pose after a baseball game.You mean the episode he spent being the only competent character?
BT3 won where it countshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55KGua5iW0E
>>495816190That wasn't there for the memes, it was there to hype up the new gravity chamber training.
>>495815918i'm assuming he's talking about this one from the super hero adaptation that made it look like 18 doesn't entirely trust krillin, which compared to how all the previous material portrayed krillin and 18's relationship does stand out a little bit, but honestly coming from a TFS member i wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't because this doesn't fit their vision of the relationship
>>495816567>That's literally an episode centered around him where he saves the day several times, how is that shitting on him?And Bulma literally says "baseball is the only thing Yamcha is actually good at"
>>495800546>The other chick isn't even bad enoughYeah she is. To this day I am baffled she was able to land herself a role for the Kid side of Goku and Gohan and Luffy, because her voice sounds like nails on chalk. I think her acting has gotten better, but her first initial things plus her voice in general just fucking blow
>>495817819I had no idea Marron shows up in Super Hero's manga adaptation.Pic related is her like two years ago in-universe by the way. She had a saiyan growth spurt. Nose growth too
>>495817819Nah, he has a point, that's fucking stupid. Toyo can't help but fall back on fanfic ideas.
>>495818892I wonder the same about Nandonly, she made Goku and Gohan sound like a grandma who smokes.
>>495819141i mean i don't exactly disagree with what he said, but coming from a member of an abridged group that made an entire animation of 18 and krillin on a date (and then another one about her being pregnant) i can't help but think they might've been a little attached to how their interpretations of the characters would've acted too
>>495819553>that made an entire animation of 18 and krillin on a date (and then another one about her being pregnant)Wait, they did that? I thought all they did post Cell was that series in DB's hell and the shorts.
>>495819931yeah that was part of those shorts
>>495817819That's just recognising Krillin's big dick energy, I don't know why someone would get mad at it
>be yamcha>plow fields with your bare hands and do laps in shark lake for three years>get your leg broke by a bald dude in the tenkaichi>bald dude becomes goku's new best friend>next tournament the guy you're matched against gets possessed by fucking God and styles all over you>train with God for a year>get suicide bombed by the pet cabbage of an invading alien>train with God's boss>train some more>the alien is now goku's new best friend, also he stole your girl>get casually skewered by an evil android>don't even bother entering the next tenkaichi>get killed anyway because piccolo told an evil blob monster to genocide all humanity thinking it would take him more than ten secondshonestly if Yamcha just never begged Roshi to take him on as a student in the first place, it wouldn't alter the plot much at all
>>495816990High chances it's just going to be:>Boot up the game>See the company logos>Quiet transition to the title screen which is just a soulless rendering of Earth and space However I have still hopes we'll get a new song over in-game footage like in this videohttps://youtu.be/XznOvEhDgl0
>>495820646Put some respect on Yamcha's nameHe was Goku's first rival turned friend before even KrillinIf he had gone to Namek instead of Krillin he'd have his potential unlocked and become the strongest Earthling
>>495820646>get killed anyway because piccolo told an evil blob monster to genocide all humanity thinking it would take him more than ten secondsHe was at Kami's lookout when that happened, so he wasn't killed by that attack, though yeah, this only changes when he died since Buu ate him alongside everyone else less than an hour later.
>>495820525Insecure cucks can't handle Krillin's chadness
>>495815743>and in the manga Tien and Roshi assume he's the last member but then Goku arrives with Freeza.Tien wanted to replace Yamcha with Chiaotzu though.
>>495821834>rivalmore like stalker.
>>495821930That’s because Tenshinhan thought Yamcha was too scared to show up.
>>495821834>If he had gone to Namek instead of Krillin he'd have his potential unlocked and become the strongest EarthlingHe could just ask that of elder Moori while he was still on Earth...
>>495815743>For RoF Tien said he didn't tell Yamcha or Chiatzu because it was too dangerous for themThis decision ended up screwing Yamcha and Chaozu over because Freeza ended up blowing up the planet.Like, Yamcha and Chaozu trained with Kaio for months, not to mention Chaozu still trained with Tenshinhan every day, they should be able to kill some no-name fodder.
Since the west will be a haven for edgey what if custom stories and what if X was trapped and betrayed in the rosat, I'm assuming alot of the Japanese ones will be adapting beautiful works such as:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwXfM0aXh3khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfblxaxszFghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CacprWYfxwMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPV2ttVD3yc
I'm just baffled they actually got Nandonly back. From what I remember, she said Funi all but blacklisted her (either for her alcoholism, arrests, relationship drama, etc.). I just hope she doesn't fuck up this opportunity up for herself. It wasn't too long ago she was cast as the lead in Cartoon Network's OK KO, only to mysteriously get replaced not even halfway though season 1.
>>495823209I think she sounds REALLY good as Daima Goku based on what little we hear in the trailer.
>>495823153I can't understand what they're saying in the first video, but I know it's beautiful.>1:06>Paragus' little chuckle before the strike>1:25>Vegeta hyping himself up, failing at hitting any pins and everyone else laughingBeautiful.
>>495823153Too bad we can't make custom costumes, even just recolorsAt the end of the metal Cooler movie, we see Vegeta in his saiyan pod with the Big Gete Star chip in his handHe just crushed it, but what if he instead fused with it to finally surpass Goku?>Final battle of the android saga is now metal Vegetas vs the Z fighters
So why did Dragon Ball decide that humans must be useless?
>>495823153>Second video>Goku pretends to have a heart attack because he's getting his ass beaten by Gohan>Trunks flies in to tell everyone he's lyingThose would be so much funnier if I understood the dialogue besides some lines.
So...have mods gotten to the point where they can actually make new characters with unique voice lines, animations, and attacks or will it still just be the same characters but reskinned?
>>495823153I really want to know what lead to Vegeta getting clotheslined offscreen
>>495823153These are art
My nigga Fabricio will be a Cell mod soon, right, bros?
>>495818157Only in the dub
>>495811370Personally speaking, I feel like the Power Pole and other weapons should be equips that add more combo strings to a moveset, rather than be a transformation that replaces a moveset.
>>495811530Burning Blood and Jump Force were definitely rush jobs, Sparking Zero took 6 years to develop. If you want sequels, they better bake well in the oven.
Can Goku ride motorcycles?
>>495820646Yeah, Baba tournament is the last time Yamcha felt relevant. But he's still our hero, and the disrespect Super subjected him to was a travesty.
>>495812568Just to add onto your list:>Red and Blue-Eyed Namekians (from DBO and Heroes)>Ultimate Majin (Finn's armored transformation)>Full Power and 5th Form Fridges (the latter also being customizable)>Four Witches and Launch's Sneeze (the latter replacing a CAC's supers and ki blasts with various guns)
>>495827952I didn't watch the dub and I remember it clearly
>take some pride in the fact that i've kept my XV2 OC's power pretty low and she's just a low-tier grunt for several years>suddenly decide i want to make her the legendary super saiyan god like how broly is the legendary super saiyan>even go as far as to think up a lore reason for her to have the wild hairstyle and cape the original design concept had as a referencethe lore autism is fun but i hate that she ended up a super special snowflake after all
>>495828306I think it was only possible because of the respect the Sparking series commanded in the first place. BB and JF were disappointments, I don't believe they would risk such an undertaking without the fans' good will to fall upon.
>>495825937Not entirely, the series ends on Uub, and DBS has been making Roshi keep-up for some reason.
>>495800321i'm glad she's back but i'm still not watching Daipa.>>495800546she's the definitive English VA for Kid Goku and Kid Gohan. she is to Goku and Gohan what Kevin Conroy is to Batman.
>>495829758The thing that sucks about Jump Force is that it could've easily been a good game had they just built upon J-Stars' foundation rather than starting from scratch again. J-Stars had its flaws, but it was still closer to Tenkaichi than whatever Jump Force was, and it had a wider variety of characters despite the smaller roster. Imagine what a J-Stars 2 would have been like...
>>495827578How did they get away with this? It's literally chinese Cell. Hell give him different (better) proportions and you could convince someone who doesn't know about Super that it's Cell's new form ala Golden Freeza
>>495825937It's the other way around. It's that it decided to keep the aliens useful. Main characters falling behind until becoming just a background decoration or worse has been a thing for the series from the get-go. And at some point we just ran out of humans (due to Goku becoming the indisputably strongest Earthling after defeating Piccolo). But Piccolo and Vegeta ended up having some incredible staying power.
>>495830252I'm usually not a rosterfag, but I want a Jump game with a gigantic roster in addition to a good story that takes advantage of the fact that all these franchises are under the same game. I want to see Majin Buu eat Whole Cake Island, or Soma cooking for Beerus and Whis, or some kind of turf war between Bleach hollows and the demons from Kimetsu.A Jump Game like that is unrealistic, but it'd definitely be worth the money and time it'd cost.
>>495830252Jump Force was like 80% of a good game, it just needs a bit more going on with the combat and higher quality visuals rendered in a better art style. i put like 20 hours into it for the novelty of "Jump Xenoverse" until the art direction sucked the last vestiges of my enjoyment away. it's crazy Jump have one of the only settings i'd actually like a series of MCU interconnected multiverse games from but they just don't. guess they're making enough off figurines.
>>495829857Uub isn't a normal fucking human, he's a reincarnated force of nature. lol
>>495830665I also want team ultimates.
>>495830870Any other number of humans could be and likely are reincarnated non-humans as well. You can't prove Yamcha wasn't the strongest in the universe in a past life
>>495829089While he wasn't "relevant" during Baba's tournament, Kami has nothing but respect for him while they fought, and Yamcha was even the one who had to make Kami fighting in such a silly way. And while his death is memed, Yamcha fought the Saibaman because Krillin had died once before, so he put his own life at risk because Yamcha could afford to die, and Yamcha won the battle but was fooled by the Saibaman playing dead, so it took a while for him to be nothing but a joke.
>>495831253I know, like I said, he's our hero.
>>495830897Jump Super Stars had team supers:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1hsdFr5kIg
>>495831253>during Baba's tournamentMeant to say "during 23rd tournament".
>>495830252J stars got boring way quicker than any other fighting gameA sequel would have needed to add both offensive and defensive options as well as fix some of the major flaws like how long invincibility lasts after you get knocked downPossible but that's a big ask considering they'd also need to add characters and pack the game with contentI dunno how Spike did it in just one year from BT1 to BT2
>>495831596Games were just faster to develop back in the PS2 days. Now every game has to be super smooth or super detailed, which costs both time and money.
>>495831508This game was the epitome of soulWe'd be blessed if it ever got a proper sequel>That Piccolo fusion
J-Star's story was a waste, you'd think the team setting would be we'd get a lot of interesting interactions but nope, it's just random fights.
>>495831508real shame these aren't in JUS, probably the main reason why they're so unknown
>>495832370>Was about to post how surprised I am that I played through that entire game and never saw a team superJUS was far more popular, I don't even now if JSS had an English patch at the time
>>495832370>>495832963I wonder if anyone's modded JUS to add the team supers back, and maybe even add new characters.
seeing Broly and Kale with golden auras instead of green auras pisses me off, and i miss red Super Saiyan 4 auras. ;-;
>>495833064>I wonder if anyone's modded JUS to add the team supers back, and maybe even add new characters.When I was into MUGEN back around 2009 the trend was making every popular anime character at the time into JUS style
>>495833867You will probably get every aura color for customization
>>495834062How many auras did BT3 have?
>>495833867I can't speak for Kale, but Broly's always been the golden boy. Its subsequent media that's made him so damn green.
>>495835608Broly should only have a greenish higlights but still have yellow mostly.He should come off as PEAK Super Saiyan.
I often hear that Bamco needs to release a DB game at least once every 2 years or risk losing the licence. Is this some actual knowledge, or just a rumor that blew up? Also, does it differentiate between platforms, e.g. if they only produced mobile games, would they have potential problems with other platforms?
The Cabba vs SSJ4 Gogeta is the dumbest reddit "meme" I've ever seen, Base GT Goku is beyond everything that was shown in DBS other than the Angels and Zeno, I wonder why the DB fandom has so many retarded underage faggots without critical thinking
The Cabba vs SSJ4 Gogeta is the reddit "meme" I've ever seen, Base Cabba is beyond everything that was shown in GT, I wonder why the DB fandom has so many retarded underage faggots without critical thinking
>>495835608Broly turning green is one of the funniest bits of design flanderization
>>495836970>filenameis that ai... of cabba? why would someone make such a thing?
>>495836970>design so shit that you can make a foolproof AI mockery of itKek, another W for GTbros
>>495837234I just grabbed the most reminiscent pic at a glance off google images kek
>>495836654>Base GT Goku is beyond everything that was shown in DBS other than the Angels and ZenoHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Reddit can have its memes, whatever. But bringing them here is beyond cringe.
>>495837718What's so funny? GT follows the Z Movies continuity, DBS Anime follows the Dragon Ball Manga continuity, there's a magnitude of a difference in power levels between Z Movie's Goku and Canon Goku.
>>495838018>GT follows the Z Movies continuity>>495751564
>>495838109You want to compare Base Gokus? Ok then
Base cabba couldn't even beat DB Goku let alone any version of Gogeta...
>>495837443>GT so irrelevant AI doesn't even know what SS4 is>But they know what blue isNot like this, GTbros...
>>495838109>>495838278>I-Is that a building level laser beam? PLEASE SPARE ME SORBET-SAMA!
>>495757519Moon is moon. Not a planet.>b-but physicsMoon is moon. Nothing the powerhouses of the saiyan saga do to Earth compares to the abuse the moon receives. It's a little bitch.
>>495838515The movie version of that scene is funnier.
>>495838018>DBS Anime follows the Dragon Ball Manga continuity
>>495838484Forgot pic like a stupid MONKEY
>>495838515Reminder that superior Kaio-sama's gi would TANK that beam. Whis's pajama was a joke, and it's a good thing Goku stopped wearing that disgrace.
>>495838515As opposed to SS4 being barely able to move a building
>>495838686Gregory? Canon, a reminder that Mangashit follows TOEI too
>>495837718This building is Super 17 levelhttps://youtu.be/oT0w8h3fMlc
>>495838686Yes, Kaio dies in the manga as well.
>>495838664>AIIIEEEEE WHIS SAMA MY ULTRA INSTINCT DIDNT WORK
>>495838982Anon you don't have to deflect to the manga just because you got caught saying something retarded. The Super anime has never been based on the DB manga
>>495838983God that SS4 transformation looked awful>>495839086>GT fight scene>>495839210Meanwhile in Super Ginyu is getting frog puss
>>495838886>SSJ4 lifts an entire city in that exact same episodeHmmmm>DBS Goku jobs to a laser, gets caught off-guard by a bullet and can't even make a dent on ironWhat a pathetic weakling>>495839210Toriyama himself said that it was the follow up to the original manga, 2 months before the first episode of Super>But muh filler anime charactersToriyama retroactively retconned these things into the original manga when he said those things about the DBS anime.
>>495838983Base Buu era Goku couldn't lift mere 40 tons.
Hidoi...not another canon argument, desu...
>>495840052The boulder he pushed as a kid during Muten Roshi's training was already heavier than that
>>495839210Is this the same frog that was already sexually harrassing him on Namek? It's an alien frog species so it must be. This raises many questions
>>495840206In your fanfic. In the actual manga, Buu era Goku is helpless when faced with 40 tons.
>>495836316It actually used to be once a year back in the day if I remember correctly, they probably loosened things up over the past few years.
>>495840107There's no argument, the GT fag is just mad his shit show is not canon and weaker than canon.
>>495840505SENILEyama...
GT Spirit Bomb is weaker than or equal to Buu Spirit Bomb
>>495839742>Toriyama himself said the Super anime was the follow up to the original mangaWhy do you lie...?>Toriyama retconned filler into existence just because I can't accept Z->GT and Kai->Superlmao
You guys are literally just arguing over inconsistencies by AT and Toei because apparently it's really hard to keep track of what you wrote before.
>>495840674>insulting the memory of OUR AUTHOR upon being BTFOPathetic.
You're all going to the black hole until you start behaving
>>495840797>our author>did not write GT, but did write SuperBut of course, you are right anon.
>>495840685As shit GT was with power scaling they didn't make a weaker bomb beat Omega ShenronThe Buu arc Spirit Bomb used energy from earthlings, namekians and the people of Emma's office (apparently), the GT one was meant to have energy from people Goku meet all over the universe and shit
The power levels in both are inconsistent at best. Cabba can one-shot SS3 Gotenks, Pan can knock down General Dildo, whatever. I care more about Pan bullying Cabba, optionally with Caulifla's help.
>>495841390Based
>>495841390Based coomer
>>495841390He's the perfect target for her. Uptight but humble and kind, twiggy and shota-ish, with just a hint of monkey pride to get chewed on, he would get super flustered by her antics.
>>495839742I wonder how Chappil feels
>>495841939Intensely aroused by Goku's touch, but that's only natural
>>495841390This guy knows what's up
>>495842116Not emotionally, I meant like literally. What does iron skin feel like?
>>495842343Oh. Polished metal probably.
>>495840748>lmaoExplain why Gregory appears in the DBS anime and why Kid Vegeta is using his TOEI design in the DBS manga>>495841390>The power levels in both are inconsistent at bestOne Goku destroyed a universe in base while powering up, the other one didn't. One Goku is much faster and stronger than the other one because he fought stronger versions of the enemies of the other one, and so on. GT Goku is all around superior
>>495841390Based coomerchad>>495842512Worthless GTpowerscaler
Sucks ass to be a sincere fan of Cabba while this meme is hot. Every motherfucker on the net is going to think it's ironic or for the meme, when I just like the little man. I don't give a shit about powerscaling generally speaking, and I'm actively disinterested in inter-continuity powerscaling, what a waste of brain cells.
>>495842834>Worthless because it doesn't align with my headcanon schizoid arguments!Pathetic,GT clears Super
>>495842512>>495842936GTku jobs to tickles.
>GT gets stupid and has weird moments where the character is suddenly weak>wtf this show is garbage!>Super gets stupid and has weird moments where the character is suddenly weak>Peak cinema
>>495842998I job to tickles too, meaning that I'm Universe-Buster while in base>>495843082based
>>495842512>>495842936>muh headcanonIrrelevant.Goku is still weaker than the strongest character in Dragon Ball.
>>495843232>Goku is still weaker than the strongest character in Dragon BallEveryone is weaker than Arale, you retard
GT and Super are good.They both have Lapis in them so they have to be good.
>>495843164Sounds kinda gay. You some kind of gay boy?
>>495841390never mind that i want someone to bully caulifla
>>495842512>he stopped trying to trick me with fake Toriyama quotesI rest my case. DB Kai -> DB Super
>>495843356What about Abale?
GT has Pan so you know GT awful.
>>495843423Why are you looking for a boyfriend in this place? Hop on Grindr and be done with your hornyness>>495843480>Deflecting once againTell me why the DBS Anime and Manga have "non-canon, TOEI only material" in them, you're done, Gregory being there does not debunk what I've said
>>495843456Pan has two hands, she can do both
Gentlemen, this is the drone who thinks anything Toei does is canon by default and uses any chance to praise GT over Super. He's probably already preparing arguments as to why GT is better than Daima, too.Don't bother replying.
>>495843164>I job to tickles tooWhat are you, nine?
>>495843691but pan's in Z too!
>>495843694>literal "no u" because he just learned what deflection means a few posts agoDB Kai -> DB Superfiller = nothing to do with Toriyama's mangaYou = a retard
>>495842512Homosexual behavior, continuing MUH POWERLEVELS rather than acknowledging the core of his argument.
>>495843456Nah, she's too smug and wily a monkey. Not nearly as fun. Cabba and Kale though? Way more bullyable.
>>495843797>Still relying on this single frameKek, pathetic, remember that Buuhan alone has a Beerus level feat in the Z continuity>>495844114>Coping and deflecting once moreIf DBS Anime and Manga both have "Non-Canonical" material then neither of them are canon>filler = nothing to do with Toriyama's mangaSo DBS Anime/Manga are filler then by your own logic, good to know.
Base Cabba is still stronger than GTI checked
>>495836654>Base GT Goku is beyond everything that was shown in DBS other than the Angels and ZenoBase GT Goku can't lift a building
This Gogeta vs Cabba stuff is actually pissing me off Cabba can't beat Gogeta because he's lame and I hate him and his entire super universe,Kale and Caulifa fusing into Kefka can't beat Z Broly because he's cooler and more awesomer than they are.Frost would get ground into tofu by Cooler because Cooler is coolerAlso Vados is a less sexy version of Whis
>>495844604Super Saiyan 2 Cabba from the ToP is Galaxy Level at best, GT Goku (Base) is universe buster, sorry to pop your bubble>>495844723see >>495843082
Vegeta literally breaks the Time Chamber
>>495843996I now hate Z.
>>495844863So what? Sugoroku Space was infinite in time and space just like the HTC
>>495844821Sorry but I checked, even Chris agreed, Cabba is stronger
>>495844863>>495845017Vegeta and Goku are so strong... I want to see them kiss each other..
>>495845017So you admit base Vegeta (Super) = base Goku (GT)
>>495844440>more "no u">and keeps talking about the manga nobody but him mentionsDB Kai -> DB SuperCope
>>495845237BaseGT Vegetabros... is that why he isn't in the games?
>>495845127That's illegal!!!
>>495845237Vegeta did that feat in the Goku Black arc and got several times stronger, Cabba is a weak willed faggot so he had the same level of strength that Tournament of Destroyers Vegeta even in the Tournament of Power, it means that Cabba is infact much weaker than Base GT Goku by proxy.
NEW BREAD WHERE?!
Can't wait to have the first U6 vs GT tournament when the game releases.
>>495845237>Vegeta is weaker than GokuVegeta canonically weaker then every version of Goku.fetusku molly whops him.
Cringe: Making a custom battle where Base Cabba has to beat SSJ4 GogetaBased: Making a custom battle where SSJ4 Gogeta has to survive 90 seconds against a max difficulty, powered up Base Cabba with one-shot specials
>>495845782Are there enough U6 for that?
>>495845930We'll have to treat the SS forms as separate characters maybe
Cringe: Making a custom battle where Base Cabba has to beat SSJ4 GogetaBased: Making a custom battle where ssj4 Gogeta teams up with Cabba to kill Pan
>>495845930we can have more or less the same amount of contestants as the Super arc if we replace the big guys with Kale/Caulifla.
>>495844863>>495845237Nope, I checked THE CANON MANGA and the HTC has the size of the Earth, GT Goku is still the king
>>495845930If you count Kefla as the 5th, yes
>>495846071But killing Pan will give you the ire of Gohan who becomes Zeno level in Beast x100.
>>495846223Oh? >>495845017
>GT Goku is a weakling>WHAT DID YOU SA->HE'S A WEAKLING!!!
NEW>>495846456>>495846456>>495846456
>>495846431My bad, I forgot this panel >>495846223
>>495846404I hope you have the tools to make a custom battle where Goku beats up Pan so he can orce Gohan to get stronger so he can fight him.Imagine all the Psychoku What if's
>>495807728Okay, some info on lens, how it works is that it first tries to give you a definition of the image and then tries for image results later down. Scroll down some more is the tl;drhttps://files.catbox.moe/848sbz.png
>>495800546The Veronica Taylor of DBZ.
>>495843356>Everyone is weaker than Arale, you retardMachirito and Beerus were both stronger than Arale.
>>495800321Wake me up when they get Tiffany Vollmer back as Bulma