Why the fuck does the Satisfactory map not at least include traintracks.

21 DAYS UNTIL SPACE AGE BOYOS

3rd for Factorio will have 15,6 million all time players.

>>496579903
15 million? In the short amount of time it's been out? idk bro maybe 2 million but 15 seems a lot

>>496579819
for the same reason train tracks are almost impossible to build neatly in parallel or even straight and why they don't snap next to eachother. Or why belts, pipes and tracks have insanely short max build lengths

>>496579819
wouldn't be realistic. also you're doing it wrong if need that

>>496579560
I never learned how to use trains (probably because I didn't use a complete circuit) but I did learn how to use drones. But nonetheless I have stable energy and I've automated everything to eventually clear phase 5. Holy fucking shit. It took 95 hours and it'll take a few more being AFK while I make a bunch of nuclear pasta.

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It's gotta take 10x more effort to build this badly compared to building a neat base. I can't conceive of this dude's power level.

>>496579903
Space Age 50,000 players maximum.

>>496580749
only smoothbrains play this walking simulator and veggie brain simulator.
>>496579819
speaking of, are the maps entirely randomly auto generated or are they fully hand designed or are pieces of it hand designed and those pieces are randomly arranged?

i play video games to prove how smart i am

>>496581591
fully hand designed
which makes the pop-in/pop-out of foliage even more embarrassing

>>496581591
there's only one map. it's fully hand crafted

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>>496581591
>Random large arches everywhere
L. No.

what do you say chat
L or W
we drinking that amogus potion at 3am anyway

so we back in the mines

>>496582203
What is this about?
Factorio?
Satisfactory?
Something else?

>>496582324
can you not reply to every shitpost you see

it just keeps insisting upon itself

>>496581497
It's a different value perspective mate. People think everything nuke related is Japan and Chernobyl. It's come a long way but people are scared of it.

>>496582953
so pure FUD
hyperfocus on nuclear safety issues
extreme ignorance of other safety issues
yeah that's what I figured

>>496582953
Fossil fuel plants have a 0% chance of creating a deadly radiation cloud
Wind, solar, and hydroelectric plants have a 0% chance of creating a deadly radiation cloud
Nuclear plants have a 0.0001% chance of creating a deadly radiation cloud
No one wants to be the 0.001% chance

Aren't fossil fuels literally setting back archeology and paleontology by hundreds of years by losing these fossils?

>>496583098
no other power source has any safety issues except for people working at the plant.

>>496583367
did you know around 5 million deaths per year are attributed to air pollution caused by fossil fuels?

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>>496583367
fossil fuel plants have a 100% chance of creating a deadly radiation cloud

>>496583098
Yeah. Also: there's a bit of money to be made if you've invested into these green companies to say... hedge your bets on oil that a relatively safe and mad efficient alternative would make you nervous enough to want to sway the public. That's getting a bit into tinfoil hat territory I guess.
>>496583367
Agreed on all of that. No one thinks about the other shit that goes with all the other things vs the output. We're not power hungry enough for all of us to be willing to test the bounds yet.

>>496583806
so does my ass

>>496583796
>>496583806
let me guess, you believe in "global warming" because a "scientist" on CNN told you to

>>496583427
well little timmy, sadly we haven't figured out how to burn rocks in the shapes of dinosaur bones yet but when people say fossil fuels its always either coal, oil or gas. There's not much useful information to be derived from a brown sludge

>>496583931
THIS

I'll just leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGB5MMIAVA

>>496584052
I guarantee I'm not the only one who thought they were using literal fossils when they said fossil fuel
I will NOT take the L

>>496583510
...pollution?

if space age is going to take 100+ hours that means overhaul mods like krastorio 2 are going to be easier than the dlc

>>496583367
I'm an engineer with a background in nuclear energy. Let me tell you why you're a retard.

>Fossil fuel plants have a 0% chance of creating a deadly radiation cloud
Fossil plants have a 100% chance of creating a deadly radiation cloud. They release more radioactive particles into the atmosphere than nuclear plants. And that's not even counting the other effects of their pollution.

>Wind, solar, and hydroelectric plants have a 0% chance of creating a deadly radiation cloud
These are all made using carbon-centric processes and thus produce pollution, including the aforementioned radioactive particles.

In reality, it's retarded to pretend we have to pick between these. We should invest in ALL of them to diversify our energy infrastructure. Nuclear is a good baseline power supply. Hydroelectric is slightly less good but pretty stable over longer periods of time. Solar and Wind scale very well but a rainy day without wind can fuck you if that's your entire grid.

>Nuclear plants have a 0.0001% chance of creating a deadly radiation cloud
It's far lower than that these days. In fact, the new Thorium reactors are virtually incapable of melting down. Fukushima was only a problem because multiple experts were ignored and the tsunami+EQ combo was unprecedentedly huge.

>>496583931
Ever wonder why 99.99999999% of experts support the hypothesis and only inbred sacks of shit that make money lying to retards ever disagree?
iirc, there was ONE legitimate climate scientists that didn't support the climate change consensus and they changed their minds and joined the consensus TEN OR MORE YEARS AGO. Lord Monckton, or whatever his name was, over in England. He was the last hold out that denied climate change was a thing, but even he now concedes it.

If you weren't literally subhumanly stupid, you could just read the data for yourself instead of letting scammers and con artists and conspiracy theorists control you.

>>496583510
blatantly wrong
pm2.5 (small particles in the air) cause cancer and breathing problems
>>496583931
I did a lot more research than that
just because CNN is unreliable and hyperbolic doesn't mean you throw out all scientific data

>>496582953
It's a bit more complicated that "people are scared" but yes, one of the reasons why nuclear is expensive to manufacture and maintain over several decades is because of a comparative lack of knowledge, which stems from people being scared.

>>496586264
actually, Fukushima was not a disaster
an accident that only affected those onsite
even the preventative measures of scrubbing soil were overblown
the real damage was trying to move people in a panic

>>496586264
>diversify
yeah that's about what I'd expect from the sort of liberal hippie retard who thinks burning coal is going to create so much heat that it melts the ice caps and floods Portland or LA or whatever other democrap shithole you're living in

>>496586660
>so much heat
it's the CO2, retard
the effect of CO2 is very observable - make two greenhouses, one with more CO2 and one with less

>>496586464
no, the real damage was the PR disaster it caused for nuclear that caused many countries to shut down their reactors or cancel new ones and rely more on burning fossil fuels, which has certainly killed more people already and will kill many more
the evacuation did more harm that good but it was pretty limited

>>496586264
>Fukushima was only a problem because multiple experts were ignored and the tsunami+EQ combo was unprecedentedly huge.

Char limit stopped me from being clear. The problems at Fukushima were:
>it was designed to handle the tsunami
>it was designed to handle the earthquake
>it was not designed to handle BOTH because there was no precedent up until like 10 years before
>engineers told them how to protect the reactor AFTER they learned the tsunami+EQ combo was possible, but the plant directors didn't bother implementing most of it
>DESPITE THIS, the reactors still would've been fine if the backup generators had been on-site!
>the backup generators had been moved uphill away from the site to protect them from the tsunami+EQ possibility, and that worked, the backup generators were mostly fine
>but this made them vulnerable to the very thing they were intended to protect against: The plant being cut off from external power delivery
>the plant was cut off from external power, and the backup generators had been moved to an external location, so the plant was cut off from them, too

Had the plant directors done even 50% of the things engineers recommended, Fukushima never would have had a problem getting hit by such a staggering 1-2 punch from the earthquake and tsunami.

>>496586464
True.
Fukushima is literally taught as a massive success in nuclear physics and engineers courses because even with 10 years of human negligence and getting hit by an unprecedented amount of damage, it didn't fail catastrophically. It was relatively easily contained and mitigated. And it was built in the late 60s, opening in 1971. Meaning it was DESIGNED in the early 1960s, based on 1950s knowledge of the topic. A reactor built with a 1950s-level of understanding the field withstanding what it did is astounding. It's hard to find a nuclear engineer that's not impressed by how it held up.

>>496586660
0/10 bait

niggas will be like "6 gorillon asthmatic boomers have been natural gassed to death in the coalocaust" then refuse to show a single case that's not some slum-dwelling thirdie who burns empty antifreeze bottles for heat and shits tapeworms

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>>496586264
>>496586323
>>496586828

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I realized working on the space capabilities of the shuttle is jumping the gun a bit when it barely flies in atmosphere, plus troubleshooting space shit is extremely time consuming since you have fly up there every time.
Concentrating on the conventional plane stuff first seem like a better idea put PID fuckery is so annoying and I needed a break so truck buster weirdo was right.

yeah I think that's enough

I don't think we need to go further.

I'm gonna be that guy. WHAT'S PID?!?!

>https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-429
I was busy when this dropped, and I can't be assed to not speed read E-nigger's writing. How do the devs intent to make it survive a nuke rocket? Move the nuke rocket back?

Is Metal Slug 3 worth 1ccing
>>496588394
Simply be under the protection of the NAP and nukes won't harm you

>>496587269
It's not our fault you're too lazy to use a search engine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangier,_Virginia

>>496587275
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?&q=climate+change+projections
Read some studies. Pick some with high citation counts. Make sure they're in reputable publications. See what the actual experts have been saying for decades.

>>496587901
>>496588278
This needlessly cryptic and these days you can never tell if it's a shitposter, a bot, or a janitor punctuating their suspensions.

>>496579560
Anyone here play stormworks having trouble with nuclear

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>>496587815
The old plane was stable almost straight away. It hovered well, even with unbalanced cargo. The new shuttle is a total cunt it won't stay level, it won't hold position, it occillates all over the place and nothing I do with the uh- controllers will fix the fucking thing. I suspect it's partially because the first shuttle has a high wing and the new one has a low wing so it's almost like trying to hover a helicopter upside down.

>This needlessly cryptic
I said enough, vanya.

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>>496588476
>See what the actual experts have been saying for decades
That we're coming off an ice age going into the warm-up part of a natural cycle that's been going on for longer than anthropogenic factors have existed

That burning all of our available oil and then all of our available coal at once would release less CO2 than some historical volcano eruptions

I drew a penis when building red chips again...

>>496588394
Apparently it's resistant to some forms of damage like lasers. Only lanners know if it can survive nukes. We do know that it's vulnerable to armor piercing bullets or maybe they were using uranium.

>>496589021
Pics or it didn't happen

>>496580749
Given the height of the thing its got to be more than that. There's a mark 1 pump somewhere in there for every 20m for every pipe.

>>496588637
What trouble it's pretty basic stuff

>>496588394
nukes are supposedly good but prohibitively expensive to ship to other planets

>>496588476
your peer-reviewed wikipedia article says absolutely nothing about anyone dying from air pollution, maybe read your sources before citing them

>>496588927
Stop shitting up what others have shoveled down your gullet and go educate yourself.
Form your own opinion, or keep your inbred beliefs to yourself.
If all you do is mindlessly, uncritically regurgitate memes fed to you by others, you're just a mindless wad of cancer killing civilization. You can't claim to be sentient. You can't claim to be intelligent. You can't claim to be "right" about anything. You're just a dumb monkey making useless noise while everyone else is trying to hold an actual conversation.

The fact that dozens of world-class scientists have written entire books, not to mention published papers and reports and articles and recorded youtube videos and created all manner of other media, refuting the EXACT thing you said, and you seemingly have no clue that you spouted something that's been debunked harder than 2+2=5, should be humiliating for you. If you were sentient, you should feel like absolute dogshit right now because you'd go search for some of the refutations of what you said and see a fucking mountain of experts with mountains of evidence just shitting all over the retarded memes you're repeating.

But you're a subhuman moron that outsources thinking to authority figures you trust, so you don't care about any of that. You do as you're told. You believe what you're told. And that saves you from having to exert yourself. And that's what makes you happy. So you're going to keep doing it. Even if it means being wrong on the easiest bet in modern history.

If you're wrong and we do nothing, billions suffer and many, many people die preventable deaths.
If you're right and we take unnecessary action to address a problem that doesn't exist, we just made the world a better place for "no reason."
No sane person can vote for the first option over the second. All of the things we need to do if the experts are right are things that would improve civilization anyway.

>>496589437
Who's talking about air pollution?
That's not the main danger.

>>496565121
The way I handle it is I build three refinery blocks, which I'll call A, B and C. Block A feeds from water extractors and has enough capacity to take all of the bauxite from the miner and turn it into alumina solution, which it feeds to block B. Block C takes the water output from block B and turns it into more alumina solution, which also feeds into block B. A and C are both connected by a smart splitter that prioritizes C but feeds any overflow into A. The most important part is that there are no pipelines connecting A and C.
C fills up first but doesn't produce any alumina because it has no water, so A starts producing alumina when the splitter overflows. B starts producing scrap and water, which then all gets absorbed by C. Once everything is running A sits mostly idle but not completely because C doesn't have enough capacity to handle all of the bauxite. It takes a few more buildings but it always produces at 100%.

we'll never be able to have a non-shitpost nuclear discussion around here

>>496589580
>If all you do is mindlessly, uncritically regurgitate memes fed to you by others
>t. guy parroting shit he saw in a reddit post about a Snopes article about a CNN opinion piece about a study funded by the UN Commission for the Promotion of Alternative Energy

>>496588476
>citing Wokiepedia unironically
lmao

>>496589678
unfortunately
this is why I said "yeah I think that's enough" - because I remembered that /pol/tards live here too
I was thinking I would just get a short discussion in the dead thread and we could leave it there, but that was too optimistic

Factorio Sever doko? Is it still on bob's and angels?

>>496589804
>haha, this absurd exaggeration sure makes you look stupid!

>>496589437
Here, I timed myself: 5 seconds to type "study air pollution deaths", hit enter, then click the first result.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38030155/

Fuck, there's so much.
https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution#tab=tab_1
https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/air-pollution-accounted-81-million-deaths-globally-2021-becoming-second-leading-risk
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/c-change/news/fossil-fuel-air-pollution-responsible-for-1-in-5-deaths-worldwide/
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/household-air-pollution-and-health
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(22)00090-0/fulltext
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7881654/

You can't pretend 100% of all of these are just people in poor communities with a dozen confounding factors.
Stop being lazy. Stop being stupid. Get off your ass and research your beliefs before spouting them.

>>496589804
Spoonfeeding you citations and explaining basic logic to you is not the same as mindlessly repeating memes from Joe Rogan.

>>496589835
Hint: Follow the links cited in the article. This isn't highschool. Your teacher isn't going to roast you for citing wikipedia.

>>496589837
They're a fucking blight. EVERY fucking thread on EVERY fucking board is infested with these retards just spouting their bullshit constantly. Just spewing Fox News memes without thinking and then acting like retarded trolls when rightly called out for it. They shouldn't even be allowed in civilized society. They are who the gulags were invented for. All they're good for is labor because they refuse to use their brains.

>>496590002
>They're a fucking blight.
Yes, you are. Shut the fuck up.

The OP should be updated

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>>496589580
>they have written books you know
>you have to be really smart to do that

I'm going to factorio

>>496590002
>1 in 5 deaths is caused by air pollution
>literally no one knows a single person who was killed by air pollution
something isn't adding up here...

>>496589357
>prohibitively expensive
How so? Is there an actual limit to space platforms or something? I realize you have to build each one but do they have a running cost once they're actually in space? I just assumed they got everything they needed from rocks. Unless they make nuclear missiles weigh 10x regular missiles or something stupid.

>>496590256
You can't launch nukes.
You have to launch 20 U-235 at a time, and nuke cost was increased to 100, so you need 5 rockets.
MUH BALANCE

>>496589837
Seriously, no thread on any board on this godforsaken site can go more than a few hours without some brainrotted /pol/-tard spewing one of their retarded memes and everyone has to just pretend there's not a subhuman animal shitting all over itself and smearing it on the walls because if you so much as tell them to fuck off, let alone explain to them why they're a retard, they just never shut up. They just keep shitposting and trolling and posting the stupidest bullshit you've ever seen, even if 10 people dogpile them with citations and flawless logic, these subhumans are too stupid to realize just how pathetically stupid they are.

Over and over and over and over again, all the time, on every fucking board, these fucking vermin derail thread after thread after thread because they can't help but spout their bullshit and when they get called out they just keep doubling down until the thread is dead. Then the no-life pieces of shit fuck off to some other thread to shitpost.

The #1 rule on all boards other than /b/ and /pol/, imo, should be no /pol/ shit allowed. The fuckers should be quarantined to their cesspits and purged from the rest of the site without mercy. It's intolerable that so many of them just run wild posting the most retarded takes known to man and it's somehow on EVERYONE ELSE to talk around them and ignore them while they fling shit everywhere.

Plants love co2

>>496590404
A purge of Fox News viewers is needed.

>>496590404
>wikipedia article
>flawless logic
too high of an opinion of yourself

I'm going to build my nuclear plant in a swastika shape and there is nothing you can do about it

Why do people with reddit opinions use non-reddit/twitter/discord/orangereddit/offbrandtwitters/wikipediacomments websites?

>>496590159
sviggers won't allow it

>nuclear power good
>coal creates clouds of radiation
>climate change is a meme
These are the correct opinions.

>>496587815
I'd duplicate the shuttle of old shuttle then gut it then put the engines from your new shuttle into your old shuttle spaceframe and see if that's your cause.

>>496589580
>>496590002
>>496590404
keep posting, these are hilarious

>>496590334
That seems incredibly retarded. I know factorio isn't supposed to be realistic but how big are these fucking spicy rocks?

>>496590598
Yeah but I can't stand faggot leftists so let it rip

>>496589331
Mine explodes rapidly.

>>496590695
they heavy bois

>>496590698
Based, I'll allow it.

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>>496590747
Did they lock kovarex behind another planet?

>>496590695
well you doooo have to put the spicy rocks into centrifuges and pick out the heaviest pieces at the bottom. Doesn't help the fact like 3 dull rocks are worth 1 spicy rock

>>496590804
kovarex process is now space science, since shiny rocks are used for the non-shit recipe

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>>496590829
Wait is U235 actually heavier than U238 for rocket shipping? I thought they would be the same.

>>496591317
idk I'm just making up bullshit lol

>forgot to set train limit on some of the early stations I built without thinking
>the entire rail network grinds to a halt
At least I don't have to go there in person to fix shit, unlike misplaced belt spaghetti.

I had no idea you could press R while dragging a belt in factorio.

they stole that feature for satisfactory.
fucking shit statin

>>496591317
they are the same but u235 being heavier would track with the balancing
high tier items are almost always heavier to encourage building factories on other planets and not just shipping full products between them
you can ship 1000 iron/copper plates at once, for instance

>>496590496
Yes, clean energy. Energy for cleaning.

>>496591317
>>496592910
I wonder if they'll be heavier or use lower stack sizes like Space Exploration.

>>496591317
That would be incredibly retarded given the weight is in the fucking name

say what you want about /pol/ but they're right about the jews

What egg should I play to tide me over until Space Age?

hmm yes, i do agree that inserters should move exponentially slower depending on the weight (max stack limit) of the object it is moving

>>496593250
Something that isn't too close to Factorio. Avorion maybe.

>>496593250
everyone is currently brain poisoning themselves with satisfactory

>>496593250
Factorio

>>496593250
Stormworks.
Timberborn
CastleStory

>>496593250
Satisfactory clearly. You may finish it in time for space age, that's my goal at least. Just hit phase 4

>>496590895
Dear Armok, that is beautiful.

>>496593250
shapez2

>>496593734
its too RAW

>>496593620
>>>/reddit/

the new metal finishes like copper, chrome and caterium are pretty sexy but I wish we could put them on otherwise unpaintable objects like the metal pillar and beam, steel wall, etc.

>>496594024
I think they missed an opportunity to call it Coalumbia instead

Why do browns suck in galaxy gas instead of playing /egg/ games?

>>496593250
Techtonica. Neat little 3d factory game i've been playing since I dropped satisfactory. Really enjoying the plant 'gimmick' and while I'm not that far in, I can't point to anything yet that annoys me about the game in the same way I immediately could about Satisfactory besides disliking the cube people. At least they are way less annoying that ADA.

>>496587275
The glacier shrink to half it size. I don't think that's the best example.

>>496596262
Shrinkage?

>>496596274
The ice melted and most of them are no longer considered glaciers. There is only 25 left. In 2016, there were 26. One of them melted out of the category in 5 years. The others are also not looking too good, you can compare old pictures to modern pictures and see the difference.

>>496596956
Maybe they were in the pool, that's why there was shrinkage

>>496596956
>25 out of 26 glaciers are fine
>clearly this means we're all about to die
this is your mind on libtard bullshit

>>496592663
I wish they would steal more features from Factorio.

>>496597168
nice reading comprehension skills anon

>>496597168
No, anon. If you had reading comprehension at an acceptable level and basic logic skills, you'd know there were many more.

By 2030, we'll have had a couple cold winters and they'll write an article on how the glaciers are healing thanks to green energy (nuclear not included). Trust the plan.

>>496597168
When the signs were put on, there were 35 glaciers. 10 fell out of the category due to melting and the others shrink in size too. 10 years from now, a few more will be gone.

>>496597392
Glaciers don't work like that. The ice is formed by the accumulation of snow over many years, it would take a very cold winter that last for at least a decade to form any noticeable amount of ice and it would take many more decades to form enough to recover the status of glacier for a lot of them. Unless we get a new ice age, the glaciers are gone.

>>496596161
There a dev page or a video that explains what the plant stuff is? I don't expect it to be the same kind of simulation, but I fell for ONI's gas "gimmick" so this might tickle me too.

Cant believe hawaii got sunk bros

>>496597338
>>496597364
oh yeah? and where are they now your so called glaciers? oh they "melted" and you have no proof of them ever existing? what a shame, i will totally believe you on your word alone.

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>>496597835
If it doesn't happen by 2030, I'll replace my post for a less outrageous claim.

>>496596161
yeah it has the right ideas about a 3D factory game, but they are rushing release too on november 11th. https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1457320/view/4703536805544453287?l=english

why are girls so beautiful in my eyes?
is it an incel thing?

>>496598512
You are a flesh automaton animated by neurotransmitters.

>>496598512
You have something called "normal person trait". It can be debilitating in some circles but for the large part it shouldn't trouble you in real life very much

>>496598257
>i don't have an argument so i'm just going to claim you've moving the goalpost
you moved the goalpost when you started claiming that the glaciers still melted under the sign removal post

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>>496598512
YOU SHOULD ONLY DESIRE ROBOT WOMEN FAGGOT.

>>496535842
Can't fault the guy here, his teammates wanted to discover as much new shit as possible like adhd kids without having a solid Nauvis base or any strategy at all.
>>496546445
It's minecraft yeah, it's funny that you thought about amogus too, kek
>>496577087
These guys don't give a shit at all, it's impressive.

>>496599693
>or any strategy at all.
He was literally on a team with speedrunners. There were no better people to help get his ass to another planet.

rollercoasters in factorio when

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>>496598512
women are temporary
factory is forever

I'm outright astonished that lefties oppose atomic power so much, they're against global warming, yet they oppose nuclear winter which would cool off the planet. They make no sense whatsoever.

>>496600102
>Factorio players are cucks
yeah

>>496598909
nah it's an incel thing, a beta thing. I've never see a chad think of bitches in this way or even think of bitches at all.

>>496593250
Vampire Survivors

>>496598748
The giant electric mold colony likes to make up all kinds of bullshit.

Stormworks bros when will someone build a train.

Why can't a Liberal Men beat Factorio?
There too busy Making a sandwhich for there BLACK GAY TRANSGEDER husband !!
Like and Share :-)

>>496604774
>Factorio
numales all play satisfactory albeit

well i wanted to subscribe as well, but you didn't tell me to do so... what an asshole

>>496604774
Upvoted and stickered :frogshootingtroon:

>walking simulator
>play

mdos will fix factorio 2

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And i thought my shitposts we"re bad.

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Being an engineer is like living life like it's an unending shitpost. This changes a man, and the autism doesn't help.
>but my life is already a shitpost
You don't know how blessed you are.

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>be too ""mature"" to tell actual discord trannies to fuck off and die
>waaah how did my heckin' generalino turn into shit???

>>496607786
All i see in this thread are a bunch of indianeers.

I continue to maintain that an RTG+turbine in every home would've solved the problem of energy if not for the "muh safety" scaremongering.

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>>496608064
Understanding the very basics of human psychology, It's easy to see a future where there's a huge spike of accidental deaths by nuclear poisoning and/or explosions because one guy decided to DIY their cooling pipes and eyeball their measurements, and took their neighbor with him.

>>496608567
That is a price I'm willing to pay for freedom.

>>496608567
The trick is to move somewhere where your nearest neighbour is not actually very near to you

>>496608567
>accidental deaths
"people" these days ingest tide pods for internet views, this is no accident, they are simply retarded
just imagine what would they do if they had access to highly radioactive materials

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>decide to build Crystal Oscillator factory that maximally exploits a bunch of nearby iron, copper, quartz, and coal
>math says I can crank out 20 Oscillators per minute
>think nothing of it
>fast forward 10 hours
>have essentially built 6 factories either next to each other or stacked on top of each other to refine, process, and assembly all of the components required to make 20 Crystal Oscillators per minute
>final step is to make the Manufacturers of the actual oscillators and feed them with belts
>without overclocking, this will require 20 (twenty) of these giant fucking buildings
>the belt management alone is going to take 2 hours
>probably need to clear land and build an entirely new building in my factory complex at this location just to fit 20 Manufacturers
How did I miss that these things were so resource-intensive?
More importantly, how the fuck did I get by with only 1-4 of these per minute in previous saves? This is the first time I've done more than set up a mini-factory in my main base to produce Crystal Oscillators.

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Why did nobody tell me how comically small the rounded foundations are?

>>496609124
god this makes me want to puke, don't even bother putting the walls up, just use concrete platforms please

>>496609082
That's my point. But I was referring more about the deaths from people who weren't directly involved, the victims.
We also know what people do with nuclear material when they don't know what it is, and it's not pretty, usually taking many other lives besides their own.

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>>496609307
I get triggered when building upper levels without lower level support, so I have to put up walls every time I go up a level.
After I've finished everything and know the layout won't change, I'll go in and improve the finish, add details, pick better windows, etc.

>>496609124
And they need a fuckton of power

>>496609936
you could at least use the steel walls instead of the nasty basic orange FICSIT ones

>>496609124
I wonder if anon is colorblind.

>>496608567
I disagree. You can currently very easily "eyeball" shit that takes you and your neighbour, e.g. by mixing the wrong chemicals together, or playing around with homemade explosives, or even just loaded guns.
The thing is cultural norms can actually be really good at preventing even stupid people from doing stupid shit. We all live in houses that have multiple, sometimes dozens, holes in the walls where if you happen to touch two bits inside the hole - or stick some metal object into the two - you will probably die. (Unless you live in the USA and only get soi electricity instead of a real supply.) And billions of people have lived, died, raised babies and small children in houses like this, and death by electrocution is still rare and a very minor cause of death.
And yes, modern plugs have gotten safer and you have to go pretty deep to hit live wires, but that's not true everywhere and even in third-world shitholes "death by electric socket" is not that prevalent.
Why? Because from a tiny age people are taught that the electric sockets are very very dangerous if you touch them wrong and you should always be very careful with them. Everyone knows this, and almost nobody sticks things into them.

Same with like making mustard gas at home. Almost anybody probably can, but nobody actually does, because everyone knows messing with chemicals is monumentally stupid and from age 1 their parents have probably drilled into them how easy it is to die if you do something stupid.
Or for that matter bleach bottles are often easily accessible and again, how common are chemical burns? They exist, sure, but they're by no means widespread.

So what you do is you make the reactors really sturdy and require minimal maintenance, and you cultivate a culture of "don't mess with this shit, it CAN and WILL kill you". Make people respect them.
Will accidents happen? Sometimes, sure, but in the grand scheme of things very rarely. And an RTG is sub-critical anyway.

>>496609853
Also to add
>when they don't know what it is
If this was commonplace, everyone would very much know what it is, exactly the same as they know not to stick an unwound paperclip into an outlet or not to use bleach as shampoo.

>>496610610
>>496610456
bery vased and individual pilled. misanthropes and pessimists btfo.

Speaking of nuclear power at home, there once was a guy who planned to build his own breeder reactor for a fucking boy scout badge lmao https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

Lan leakers, now that you've had some time, was the 1m spm gigabase a lie or a reality?

PSA: do not read, nor reply to the discord newtrash /v/ermin. He wears its cancer like a badge of honor so it is easy to identify it, without exposing yourself to brainrot. Hide its posts and move on.

>>496611335
Calling what he did any variation of planning is incredibly polite.

>1. week of EE uni
>new math is easy but my fundamentals are shit so it's hard in practice
it's already over

>>496611769
Study

>>496611769
Even if you make it through, you'll be competing with an armada of saars who are willing to work for 10% of your salary expecations.

>>496611769
Just use a calculator duh

>>496611997
I'm pretty confident the saars will be weak competition in electrical engineering. Wires to an Indian are like trains to an Indian.

>>496610456
>>496610610
Don't use electricity and power sockets and try to do a comparison with nuclear energy.
Say, if you drop a loaded gun, there's a chance it'll fire, will be perfectly aligned to kill you or one of your loved ones.
But we don't care about it, because in most cases, a maintained firearm won't fire from that. The damage is limited. But firearms will get dropped, people will let kids get close to guns, people still don't maintain their firearms.
They already respect guns, but don't respect guns enough.
If you touch exposed wires and die, it's natural selection. If you get exposed to a radioactive source, you likely won't even know it at first, since the failsafes need to fail. By the time you feel any symptoms, you are likely a dead man walking and chances are that you were not the only one affected.
>Make people respect them
People already respect nuclear power, but will never respect nuclear power enough. One retard is enough, no explosions involved.

Speaking of energy, I wish we could get cars that we can charge at home, but which DON'T come with deeply baked cloud botnet bullshit
I will forever be mad that battery technology has only gotten good enough now that the cloud bullshit technology is also being pushed. I just want a normal car, except one that I can plug in in my driveway and never have to think about visiting a gas station

>>496611997
indians are cheap but really stupid and unpleasant to work with, so only shit companies use them anyway

>>496611769
Just take notes and do works. In 2024, a undergrad degree is just to stay after midterm when half of those benefit collectors would quit classes so you are above the curved average. Ideally play with software tools that plots what you just learn, most school has software license for matlab n shit and put your results in photo album to show boomers on career week/fair. And internship lands job.

>>496609270
engine limitation probably

>>496611769
I got to the third year of MechEng before dropping out.
Don't do it. Stick with it.
Trust me.

>>496612395
>If you touch exposed wires and die, it's natural selection. If you get exposed to a radioactive source, you likely won't even know it at first, since the failsafes need to fail. By the time you feel any symptoms, you are likely a dead man walking and chances are that you were not the only one affected.
It should be relatively easy to build in failsafes and breach alarms. It's not hard to imagine, for example, everyone to owning a geiger counter in their home as a matter of course. Clicking getting louder? Gotta call a tech to inspect the house's turbine in the basement, just to be safe. Clicking past some safe level? An alarm probably starts automatically sounding.
The actual housing would probably also have built-in detection devices and stuff.

Maybe people could even carry tiny portable detectors in their pockets as a matter of course, just like they might carry a tissue or their phone nowadays. Shit, maybe phones would all come with detectors, just like they come with accelerometers and gyroscopes and shit nowadays. And if you're walking in the street and walk past somebody's house and suddenly get an alert, you call the techs or authorities.

>People already respect nuclear power
They respect it in the abstract, but they don't really have experience with it in the day to day. It's like that guy in mexico or someshit who stole discarded hospital equipment with a cobalt source and just dumped it in his scrapyard, contaminated the entire town, contaminated like a hundred building projects that ended up using radioactive steel from his scrapyard, and didn't give a shit because he had no idea what it was.

>>496611997
Lots of job don't provide visa sponsorship, and government job legally not allowed to. Most of these low salary postin for engineer job is old work visa forgery or company hr testing water.
"See? Our postin on 5 yr network engineer for 50k has no one respondeding, guess uncle sam need ahmed to fill in"

How do you deal with project assembly parts? Do you have a dedicated factory or just produce them as needed?

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Anyone else put all of their logistics in the spooky basement?

>>496613168
Depends on how much of a pain it is. For phase 3, I just shoved the materials in a manufacturer with sloop and overclockers.

>>496613497
is that where you keep your lizard doggos?

>>496612996
>It's not hard to imagine, for example, everyone to owning a geiger counter in their home as a matter of course
Retards that smoke take the batteries out of their smoke detectors, and non-retards can forget that their smoke detectors need maintenance. Manufacturing defects and lack of quality control are to be expected, and in many places, the people installing it don't. Greed, corruption and apathy are part of the human experience, and affect the products we consume. Media downplay incidents, or outright lie because they were paid off.
These happen today. We can't respect the warnings that smoke carries enough, and it's been with us for millennia.
Your idea works on a less fucked-up world, but for ours? Centralizing energy production is the least harmful way of making use of it.
Unless you go solar, which is already enough to supply my home's consumption.
>mah car
Is not your home. Hopefully.

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Concrete factory working overtime for my space elevator building

>>496614218
I don't know whenever I should hate it or love it, but whatever the case, good job.

>>496612395
There are many problems with nuclear, but nearly all of them are related to the human factor. Humans, on average, just plain suck. We have no ability to see or detect radioactive material, which makes handling it impossible without specialized(expensive) tools. Reliable information on danger zones does not exist, governments and agencies have been lying about hazard levels and sugarcoating dangers since day 1. Precious experts are few and far between, and mastering the material is not a trivial endeavor. Capitalism also does not synergize with nuclear, profit motives will always sacrifice safety, cheat and lie and half ass solutions in a field that gives decade long consequences to quarterly decisions. And that's all the problems with doing nuclear in a good world, simply fuck off as soon as bad actors get involved.

The benefits of good nuclear are there, but electricity just isn't that appealing any more. Renewable power may not do it better, but by god it scales. The dangers involved are reasonably scaled and easy to intuit, and if humans fuck around there isn't too that much they can find out. The remaining nuclear benefits are from straight up 1600's alchemy, transforming elements into precious materials needed for medicine or weapons. Those markets will push reactor designs that don't care about electricity, they want the raw material to work with.

>>496613579
>sloop and overclockers.
I hadn't even thought of that.
I was about to start another 3 day quest for building entire factories for this shit

>>496613168
I hand made the first one and fed a manufacturer with chests for the second. 3/4 were integrated in the factory except for nuclear pasta.

Boil water

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>>496614870
I don't think I will

>>496614460
>but by god it scales.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>496614460
>modern alchemy
Fuck yeah, I'm in.
>>496614870
Magical water that goes into magical steam engines, coming from magical nuclear cores.

>>496586264
You need to account for the same human error fuckups in thorium plants when comparing the two, because the only thing that the two of us regards can guarantee is that somebody somewhere is going to be really stupid.

>>496614170
Yes and no. I feel like in third world shitholes yes there'll be issues, but in the first world it would be perfectly feasible to have enough quality control to make it safe for normal people.
Will accidents happen? Sure, time to time. Will it be the end of the world? Not at all.

Again, RTGs aren't critical (and can't go critical by design) so failures are mostly not gonna be explosive. If your neighbour fucks up and has a leak, just take some iodine.

And if some idiot really manages to blow up his nuclear source and contaminates the block of flats, ultimately, not my problem. Just don't live in shithole areas. Some nigger neighbourhoods getting irradiated now and then is very much worth the price of everyone else having literally unlimited free energy.

>>496615376
>>496614460
Contrary to popular belief, you can in fact design something to be retard proof.

>>496614460
>governments and agencies have been lying about hazard levels and sugarcoating dangers since day 1
is this nigger serious lmao
"governments and agencies" have been driving muh safety hysteria and humongous red tape since day 1, is what they've been doing

>>496611769
don't jump in front of a train
I feel that's worth repeating

>>496615365
GW solar farms are getting built all the time. Sorry if your third world power doesn't have the muscle to do the same.

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>>496615150
>need 16L flasks minimum to conjure decent nymphets
Fuck big glass.

>>496615432
>Again, RTGs aren't critical
Have you noticed we haven't been talking about explosions at all? My guy, nuclear bullshit has ways to be pervasive in total silence, and usually end up creating more damage than actual accidental nuclear explosions.
>>496615550
It's been long proven that retard-proof is, actually, a misnomer for retard-resistant.

>>496615812
Oh, and retard-resistant is ineffective against bad actors.

>>496615774
just conjure it you fucking magelet

>>496616080
You can't automate it then, wizardfag.

>>496611335
All he did was mass-recycle smoke detectors in his meth-stupors.
If he would have been actually serious about building a reactor, there are more realistic ways to do so.

Did they make a Q/A video why there is no machine overlay showing what they produce like every other factory game that somewhat values my time?

>>496616673
I think the answer is because it's not an autism game. And the real answer is that they couldn't be bothered.

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>>496616673
They want you to use signs I guess, I agree that it should just be automatic for storage bins and assembler machines

>>496616803
As an autist I don't need it I know where what is. It is the normies I play with that get lost in the sea of constructors.
>>496617193
They are such a pain and the normies don't want to put them up.

>>496609995
Jesus fuck, you weren't kidding.
55 MW * 20 = 1100 MW
If I overclock them to the max I only need 8, but they use ~185 MW each, for a total of ~1480 MW. And that's not counting the ~1220 MW of power all of the supporting processes use. That's a power consumption range of 2320 MW to 2700 MW in total for all of the mining, smelting, processing, and assembly necessary to pump out 20 Crystal Oscillators per minute. I have the surplus capacity to cover that, but I suspect I'd have to make my next project a new fuel plant before I did anything else.

>>496610016
I used to, but it's easier to spot a base while parkouring through the forest if it's bright orange. I color them after they're finished, based on what they make, so I can tell at a distance what's happening in which locations.

>>496610431
I am unironically in the 99.99th percentile for color vision in men.
Half the women in my family have some degree of tetrachromacy so we get hit up by researchers from time to time.

>>496615432
RTGs will never be civilian viable for anything smaller than a superfreighter cargo ship. It may take 2 part time technicians to handle the capsule, but it'll take 100 bureaucrats to juggle the paperwork and governments just don't have that kind of scaling efficiency. Smaller war ships on the other hand will gobble up RTGs like candy, and maybe a handful of city centers will try it out for memes.

>>496617632
It's simple. We uhh, kill the bureaucrats

>>496617419
Be the sign autist

>>496611769
>>new math is easy but my fundamentals are shit so it's hard in practice
I'm an EE that had bad fundamentals and mediocre mathematical aptitude to begin with, so believe me when I encourage you to work on those fundamentals when you have time and energy.

Two things will save you when you don't know what the fuck is going on in engineering courses: Strong conceptual ability and strong mathematical ability. And the two feed into one another. I had shit math ability but strong conceptual ability, so my entire time in college was spent reading and watching videos and asking TAs and professors conceptual questions until it clicked and the math suddenly made sense, but if you have strong math ability, you can look at some example problems and the concepts will click for you based on your understanding of the math. If you have bad conceptual ability but strong math ability, you'll spend a lot of time working example problems trying to get concepts to click.

Students that are only good at one or the other always have a significantly harder time than students that can do both. So invest the time into strengthening your fundamentals whenever you have the opportunity.

>>496615812
>It's been long proven that retard-proof is, actually, a misnomer for retard-resistant.
Thorium reactors are so retard-resistant that they loop back around and the retards need to be criminal masterminds to figure out how to make them dangerous again.

Even mishandling waste is pretty retard-proof now. iirc a truck crashed and dropped some casks of spent fuel rods off a bridge and the fuckers still had zero leaks upon recovery.

>>496615579
>"governments and agencies" have been driving muh safety hysteria and humongous red tape since day 1
something something regulations something something written in blood

>>496610016
But the orange stands out nice instead of having bland concrete or corrugated steel walls everywhere. He should just edit the colors to be less saturated.

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Welp im pretty much done, this tower produces 2 ballistic warp drives
Slightly above 400 meters on 4x7 square foundation

>>496617632
Well that's the fucking problem innit, just remove the bureaucracy
Don't kill the bureaucrats because the law will still be there and they'll just hire new bureaucrats (or just stall the process to a halt). Just change the law

>>496618438
>something something regulations something something written in blood
Nah not really, I'm no nuclear engineer but there haven't been nearly enough nuclear accidents to write THAT much red tape "in blood".
Also, designs evolve, but the regulations barely do.

>>496615365
>most renewables are currently scaling exponentially, nearly logarithmically in some places

Decentralization is absurdly powerful. Being able to recruit thousands of concrete workers and tradesmen all over a country to start building solar panel arrays and wind turbines everywhere you can find some open space has proven remarkably effective.

In satisfactory, does it make any sense to package oil & water? I have this autistic urge to create a central factory, and only expand to gather raw materials, which will then be trucked, train'd, and flown I guess to my base.
Now for oil and water, that means I could make either a fluid train, which I'd then have to empty into tanks, and then lay pipe through my factory.
OR I could do packaged, which means I need to send empties back and forth with an extra train cart, BUT I could easily bus fluids, and un-pack them as needed.
What's the least dumb way to do this?

>>496618651
Congrats.
What's the main way you move resources between factories in your world?

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>>496618851
>exponentially, nearly logarithmically
I don't you know what that word means you fucking pseud

>>496618803
just engineer yourself better human agents, how difficult can it be

>>496618986
for this purpose belts, otherwise train

I can never decide how floors and walls should be built.
Are you supposed to build a 1m wall for each floor? Otherwise foundations overlap windows

>>496618910
Liquids need to be packaged to dunk in the awesome sink. It's a useful way to handle overflow and ratios and all that.

>>496611769
You'll regret quitting for the rest of your life. Don't quit!

>>496619315
...but when you do, the stairs won't line up with the floors.

>>496618803
>Nah not really, I'm no nuclear engineer but there haven't been nearly enough nuclear accidents to write THAT much red tape "in blood".
Who said they were all accidents? Remember the Cold War?

>>496619054
https://ourworldindata.org/renewable-energy
Hmm, it sure does look like wind and solar have grown by orders of magnitude over the past 20 years, doesn't it? It's undeniably grown exponentially, as evidenced by the sheer number of papers and reports that pop up when you search for "renewable energy growth rate" on any scholarly resource site.

All that's left is to decide if it going from 10TW to 100TW to 1000TW in a matter of years counts as "logarithmic" or not. You can be pedantic and argue that all exponential scales are technically logarithmic but everyone knows the base 10 scale is assumed unless otherwise noted.

>>496618851
>exponentially, nearly logarithmically
lmfao is this the level of education of renewable shills

>>496614218
so when can you fly to the volcano planet/moon

>>496618910
Liquids is simpler and you can solve throughput issues by adding another car to the trains, and then deal with the resulting pipe spaghetti. Solid canisters are only worthwhile if you know you're just going to get rid of the cans at the destination regardless without returning it to the source, like if you make packaged turbofuel for distribution to ground vehicles and drones.

With the max level belts, you get 2400/min solid throughput per car. You get "only" 1200/min liquid per car. But if you add a second car to return the canisters to the source for a closed loop then its literally the same.

>>496619315
Don't use windows for any section of wall that will overlap with a floor foundation. Alternatively clip the 1m walls into the window to hide the foundation (the standard ones rather than the fancy new ones). Point at the bottom edge of the wall above to get it to clip like that.

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>make copper powder
>fuck up the math pretty bad
hehe sloops and shards go brrrrrr 600 copper/m ingot from four smelders

>>496621446
>belting ore
Why isn't this wrong?

>>496621835
it was my first copper node and I never went back and fixed it. I dont really care much either. I did that with four iron nodes (impure) with mk3 and like 48 smelters and it was ass. I much more enjoy the retardation of smelting on site.

>>496619315
I make each floor 3 walls high. Only the center (and sometimes bottom) row gets windows, the top row is always just wall. Foundations between floors are flush with the top of the third wall so that you can have consistent 3-wall-high floors all the way up. (I don't do 1m walls for the floor.)
The exception are logistics floors that get sandwiched in between main floors, which I sometimes make only 1 or 2 walls high.

Every week i should have written down and kept track of which new factorio feature is going to invalidate which mod on my list but i didn't and now the cleanup is going to be a mess because nobody ever listens to me.

>>496621835
because in this stupid game 1 ore = 1 bar
it even makes more sense because you can use the ore with far more alt recipes than bars

>>496619324
Hm, I wasn't planning on sinking excess, since I planned to have a "closed loop" of recycled empty canisters, but it's good to keep in mind.

>>496620464
Ah it's hard to decide. On one hand, I really really love the Idea of packaging liquids, and hauling it to factories that way. It feels very.. industrial. But simple fluid trains might be better in the end.
And I guess even tho it might be fun to belt liquids like a madman, it's kinda stupid to actually have an unpacker at every factory just to bus liquids.

>>496622201
>because nobody ever listens to me.
That's why I play singleplayer!

>>496590895
>not Coalumbia
.....

>>496622201
I would start fresh with 1.1 (especially since some mods will probably be broken day 1 anyways) and then install mods only when you find the need for them.

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I dunno what compelled me to build upwards for this one.

>>496624129
That is called "the 3D fever", where you start using the third dimension to build things.
Four hours of Factorio per day should make it go away.

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I've been struggling with this fucking puzzle for like three sessions trying to figure out how to avoid the buttons in the bottom right area. You know what I've just discovered after getting suspicious?
The right button is an 'on' button. The left one is an 'off' button.
Does that come across when you look at this puzzle? Is there any indication? No.
I hope whoever made this room in particular and didn't think to make the buttons look even slightly different develops hemmorhoids that burst when they try to treat them. Fuck you.

>>496622375
Packaging liquids for transport is more for someone who wants to use vehicles to do it before acquiring trains. Keep in mind that packages do not need pumps to be sent upwards, so if you are supplying an immensely vertical factory it can actually be a power saver to transport them packaged.

>>496624341
My doctor has recommended I do not play Factorio until the 21st unfortunately.

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>>496624341
there is nothing wrong with 3d

>>496624631
Yeah, sadly I only have a small incline from my train station to my main factory, so not really justified to not use pumps.

>>496625034
This will trigger the autism of some of the retards here. And I love it with all my heart.

>>496625034
I wish I could handle this level of spaghetti

>>496625205
I've seen this style of "the haters will hate this" post a lot more than actual hater posts on chaotic factories.
People here tend to hate a much different style of factory, the "sovlless" factory

>>496625265
it gets oddly restrictive late game because I cant physically add more machines next to existing machines, so I have to either relocate many other machines and belts, or relocate the entire production of item x
its a fine battle of what needs to be close to everything and what doesnt. the desire to optimize belt length and eliminate time delay to change is my largest autistic trait, outweighing the clean and grid like builds

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The new material finishes are nice

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>he likes Wube
>he likes Factorio
>he bought the game through Steam anyway

>>496615774
>nymphets need only 2/3 the flask volume of titcows
we win again

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>>496625462
Yeah, it's from the influx of /v/ posters who aren't used to the place yet
They'll get used to it or leave eventually

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Truck!

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>>496622230
>1 ore = 1 bar

>>496626765
>/v/iggers think /egg/ is a hive of busfags and cityblockers
honestly more insulting than confusing it for the other /egg/

>>496626223
No I didn't

>>496626223
I'd buy their shirts if they were loose fit.

>>496620064
If you keep shitposting and fail to actually support any of the antagonistic things you say, I'm just going to assume you're trolling. This general wouldn't be half as shitty as it is now if everyone posting like you got reported every time you posted low-effort ragebait like this.

>>496618851
>scaling exponentially, nearly logarithmically
logarithmic is not faster than exponential

>>496619972
Anon, I'll let you in on a little secret. "Logarithmic" is the opposite of exponential. If a (base 10) exponential increase grows by 10x more than last time every time - e.g. 10TW, then 100TW, then 1000TW - a logarithmic increase will grow by 1/10th of the previous step each time. So logarithmic growth would be 10TW, then 11TW, then 11.1TW.

So what you wrote is basically "it's increasing extremely fast, almost very slowly!".

>>496619972
>everyone knows the base 10 scale is assumed unless otherwise noted
no, that would be the natural base (e)

>>496627451
>inject copper with water
>get more copper
We should start doing this in real life

>>496628258
I believe it's called washing

>>496627671
It is kinda weird to have a general that's supposed to be about an entire genre but is just dominated by 1-2 games.

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>>496625034
>subversion factory /egg/
>takes place inside Blame-esque megastructure
>you don't build the whole factory
>you build small bits for local production
>located in secluded rooms well out of the way
>no mining, you scavenge for parts and some resources
>other stuff you get by locating and rerouting, or tapping into the established supply lines
>get too greedy, and the sentinels show up to tear you a dozen new ones
>it only escalates further if you fight
>build too much in one place, or too close to local POI, and construction drones show up to pick it all apart
>have to spread your stuff around, vertically too
>ziplines, (combat) grappling hooks, parkour, and even hijacking drones for moving around
>emphasis on keeping a low profile, then carving out a place for yourself in this concrete hell
>mainly by locating and hacking area control terminals, guarded by boss bots
>doing it doesn't mean you're safe, only that this section won't be maintained (read: forcibly rebuilt)
>hack and fight more to fully disrupt the machines' operations
>get safe-ish space, but resource flow stops dead
>either reboot the terminal or two to invite the machines back in
>or search for new supply lines in neighboring hostile sectors

This just popped into my head as I looked at your pic.

>>496628261
Good, do it in SE

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>>496628612
Fuck you, this sounds like a fun game that we'll never play.

>>496627767
>>496628073
I think I get the miscommunication.

Exponential functions increase at accelerating rates while log functions level off. I wasn't talking about functions and should've been more clear. I was talking about graph scale. The rate of improvement for renewables is such that when writing reports on them, we increasingly have to plot them on a log scale. In writing energy reports, shifting to a log scale happens once exponential growth has become significant enough to make placing it on a standard scale unwieldy. What I said would've made sense in my own workplace, but I can see why it wouldn't make sense if you applied the most common and direct interpretation. That's on me.

The retarded shitposting is still on the people doing that. All of these superfluous replies about nothing important could've been prevented if any of the people flinging shit had used their big boy words instead.

>>496628231
Not in my industry, at least.

>>496628429
>wash dishes
>every cutlery duplicates itself

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>>496626223
>buy game directly from wube
>they get a few more shekels

>buy game on steam
>they get free marketing from valve as their game is shown to more people

>>496628612
>/egg/ Blame-esque Deep Rock Galactic / Empyrion
kek

>>496629227
Sure feels that way sometimes, not gonna lie familia.

>>496629227
Does the cutlery grow exponentially or logarithmically?

Blueprint folders/categories are completely fucked.
The "folder selection" in the blueprint building is not synced with the blueprint manager in the blueprinting menu

>>496630114
exponentially but the washing process is capped so any overflow automatically goes into the sink and is gone.

>>496629197
>I was talking about graph scale.
No, you weren't, because "exponential graph scale" makes zero sense, and 10 > 100 > 1000W is clearly exponential function growth.

So what you were actually doing is in the span of literally the same sub-sentence and same qualifier, the exact same grammatical construct, talked about two completely unrelated things with zero distinction or qualifiers between then.

>it's scaling exponentially, almost logarithmically
In the english language it means "it's scaling almost expnentially; in fact, it's scaling almost logarithmically". If you had meant to say "it's scaling almost exponentially; in fact, the graph of its scale could almost be a logarithmic graph", you were missing, like, absolutely the ENTIRE context from that. This isn't about people not knowing your specific workplace, it's about you being incapable of using the english language. There is no normal interpretation of your sentence where your intended meaning is understood.

Besides, the distinction makes no sense anyway. Logarithms are the exact inverse of exponential, so a logarithmic graph scale just converts the exponential curve to a straight line. Whether you want to do that or not depends entirely on the specific context where you're drawing the graph and is completely unrelated to the actual data.
Maybe it makes sense "in your workplace" if your work involves a component of data presentation, but I completely fail to comprehend why you'd even talk about graph scales when discussing the data in the abstract, in text, where nobody is graphic it or preparing any actual data for presentation.

>Not in my industry, at least.
In mine it's base 2, that doesn't change what the default mathematical scale is if you don't specify anything. Even if in your industry base 10 is standard, that means you must at minimum specify your field/industry for that to apply.

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now its become a prawnblem

>>496630924
you might be a little bit cooked, bro. dial it down or
>underclock
your hungry hungry hoops

I swear Satisfactory train signals are fucking useless
>Treat path signals as chain signals
>Treat them like Factorio rails
>Errors everywhere

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the favela grows

>>496628073
>anon can't into horseshoe theory

>>496631174
i have enough batteries to hold out to finish the 100, thats just with sloop, without sloop it can run at 100%

>>496631287
You should make those buildings look like bees and the largest ones will be hives.

Ok so I have 32 refineries that make turbofuel.
All of the refineries are fully stocked to produce at 100%.
It should result in a pipe of 600 turbofuel/s.
All of that should fuel 80 generators.
Problem is that doesn't happen.
5 refineries at the end of the pipe don't produce because the pipes have 0 flow even though they're all properly connected. I even remade the whole line but the problem remains.
For some reason the pipe that should have 600 fuel/s doesn't actually have it, how do I fix this?

>satisfactory exists throughout early access
>/egg/: "meh, mediocre, inane devs, unfun game design decisions, grindy, a slot in the early game, a slog in the late game"

>satisfactory 1.0 releases
>doesn't majorly revolutionise gameplay as far as I'm aware; incremental updates have been available for all this time
>suddenly all of /egg/ is playing it and the thread is flooded with satisfactory

Did I miss something, is 1.0 suddenly way better than the EA versions? Or did everyone just randomly jump on the bandwagon because of the new round number?

>>496632090
Turn the consumers off and wait for the system to fully buffer.

>>496632090
Are you properly splitting the flows so that it doesn't exceed 600? Do you have pumps at the start?

>>496628605
>dominated by 1-2 games
What is the second one?

>>496629483
I bought from wube because I literally don't use steam

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I am unlocking fluid packaging
Anon may rest in peace now

>>496632090
Use a loop topography. Say your refineries are all in a line and generators are all in a line the pipe goes past all 50 refineries teeing off to them, then around and past all generators, teeing off of them, then back around to complete the loop

>>496632020
Is that good?

>>496632091
What is an EA

>>496632806
EA, also known as Electronic Arts, is a publisher of many AAA games such as Satisfactory and TIS-100.

>>496632806
Electronic Arts, the publishers of Red Alert 2

>>496632091
>is 1.0 suddenly way better than the EA versions?
Not particularly, it's just brought in a lot of new people. Thread's a lot faster than normal simply due to more posters who've come in because it's "released".
Which is also why there's a lot more hostility to Factorio than normal.

>>496633430
>>496633431
you fucking retards
it took me like 5 minutes but i eventually determined its Early Access

>>496633504
There is no hostility, only me. Posting.

>>496633504
Satisfactory is in vogue. It's fun to play something I've not touched in years.
But once I'm done with it, it's back to Factorio.

>>496633746
if it took you more than 30 seconds, you might be the retard here

>>496632806
>>496633746
I literally wrote "early access" in my post...

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just 15 more....

>>496630609
Engine limitation.

>>496632090
[fluid buffer]->mk.2 pipe+pump->junction - 2 individual mk.1 pipelines (branching from the junction) feeding 40-40 generators
This method is foolproof

>>496634046
put 4x somersloop in particle accelerator

>>496633932
I dont read green texts that are not directly quoting a linked post because it is improper usage and stupid.