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Therapy Edition
>Previous
>>496674695

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects and robots to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's previous game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Helldivers_Wiki
https://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://helldivers.io/
https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/

>NEWS
Sept 17: 1.001.100 Patch https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/7147864422081646859
Sept 18: 1.001.101 Hotfix https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4679892274002466936
Sept 19: Chemical Agents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHr4URSXis
Sept 24: 1.001.102 Patch https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4679892274020252124

>CURRENT WARBOND
Sept 19: Chemical Agents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHr4URSXis
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I dive
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This thread needs a hero... Where is the Hero of the Federation?
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DCS > Crossbow
>b-but muh explosive
your autocannon
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The Weapon of the GODS.
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choose your /hdg/ Platoon Leader.
voting will be live for a week or so
i will post the statistics after the vote so we can see if any rigging or suspicious activity had been taken place.
say no to discord cliques. say yes to democracy.
https://forms.gle/gfxjQeXdS46B5YCF6
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D10 Bots
>inb4 1k kills crash
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DO NOT VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT SELF NOMINATES! THAT IS THE SIGN AUTHORITARIANS!
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>>496752263
3/4
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What if instead of 1k kills crash it actually has to do with shooting bot drops?
Would explain why it doesn't seem to happen on the bug front and why it feels so inconsistent.
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>>496752813
>shoot bot drops profusely
>reach 1k kills every match
honestly I believe this might be somewhat related
I stopped sweating my balls off shooting down all the dropships and the crashes seemed to have decreased
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Why is some faggot "explosion" at the end of thermite grenade where most of the damage comes from? It should be the burning part, no?
These would be a lot more balanced if burn's duration and damage was extended while explosion was removed. Just make it take more time to kill shit (but still 1 charge)
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>>496753206
The thermite grenades burning deals damaged (but only to you if you cook them too long)
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>p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk*
>RELOADING!
>p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk* p-tew *kshk*
>THANKS!
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PANDION-XXIV DEFENSE HAS BEEN WON!
We need to get on Acamar, Jo- it's clear The bBugs will attack Turing from it
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>>496753945
I know it deals burning damage (it also harms enemies), it's just that lion's share of damage comes from the explosion. Thermites should deal more damage in the "burn" phase which would also last longer and explosion should be removed.
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>>496754151
damn, i was expecting them to fumble it, would've been really funny too
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>>496754274
Where do GLmains fit into your schizo headcanon?
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>>496754665
Too busy single handedly obliterating every devastator on the map
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*Chk-Chk*
Here!
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>>496754754
Thats a strange way of saying getting hounded by every gunship in the world
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241860986270

D10 bots
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>>496752060
Which one is flutey so i can vote on him to piss of the flutey schizo.
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Around leans...
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>>496754938
9 taps to the engine with DCS. Not that big of an issue nowadays.
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>>496754818
Thank you~
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>>496752060
When's the voting deadline?
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>>496755475
Reminder to always bully leandivers and force them to be your backpack loader bitch and make them service you with stims every time you stub your toe
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Did they fix eradications yet?
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>>496752269
just let that guild will be the containment guild
its existence will make the real guild better
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>>496754274
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>Changing helmets during loadout selection STIll crashes your game
>9 months after launch
Swedejank knows no bounds
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in unision, everyone
our lives for super earth
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zkGutORdigg
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everyone ive seen use the tesla tower always throws it on top of the zone we are defending or trying to take, where it becomes a hazard more for us than the enemy
why dont they throw it under a drop or on top of a breach? does it get destroyed instantly that way or are they just dumb?
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>>496758980
LC?
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>>496752003
The AC is meh.
It is also a retarded choice to take a main and supp that are tailored to mid-long ranges.
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>>496752263
>>496759020
Is that what happened
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>>496759691
yeah
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>>496758980
Just needs EATs holding it all up like Atlas.
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>>496758980
which zoomermeme is the arc thrower?
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>>496759298
Ideally, the area between you and the breach is wide enough to place a tesla there so that AT can kill a heavy going for it and still be at a safe distance from you.
In reality, that area is way too narrow most of the time and will either land on top of the breach or be a threat to you.
Just take any other sentry instead.
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>>496758980
I assume RR users are a fed cat and QC/Spear are the two girls pointing fingers at it.

>>496759935
EATs is a cliptohoarder.
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so i told 'em
>i'm the hero of the federation
>i get infinite ammo for my arc thrower
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Post your favorite loadout.
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>>496760271
i am kicking you from my lobby
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>>496760271
Would absolutely party with this dude. While on the other side of the map from him.
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>>496760271
I don't have one anymore. The loadouts feel more bland than ever.
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>>496760271
I don't have one anymore. The loadouts feel more fun than ever.
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>>496760825
it just keeps getting better
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>>496760825
Based, I always abondon whatever I have for this. Sure I cant do shit now, but at least I look cool cosplaying super redneck.
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>>496760825
didn't know this shit even has an icon
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>>496760271
>guard dog instead of fart dog
>temite instead of incen
>J. Bush instead of fire pisser
Kick on sight.
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>>496760825
Are we living rent free in his head?
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>>496761082
I want a working build, not dot dmg meme.
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>>496758980
>>496760825
what about stalwart bros?
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>>496760825
Speaking of break action. Wtf is the point of if? It’s so shit that they didn’t put it in as a stratagem you can call down, does no damage. I don’t get it.
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>>496761480
Environmental storytelling
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>>496761385
Zoomer.
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>>496761480
Isn't it comparable to Slugger? Pre-acc nerf, but with 2 shots and no pen?
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>>496759339
>>496759935
>>496759948
>>496760078
>>496761431
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>>496761795
>retards pretending that EATs/Commando are good
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>>496761795
Perfection.
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>>496761480
I suspect it's supposed to indicate how much better helldiver weapons on than those otherwise available.
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>>496761795
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>>496761795
The /hdg/ tier list.
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>>496762004
>good
Nope. EAT is the best
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>>496762004
They count how good they are by the amount of times they call in their supp.
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If EATs are so good, then why are they expendable? Why are there no EAT 2? Checkmate EATards
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>>496761795
Now primaries, starting with
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>>496762004
>T. Butthurt ACsissie
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>>496761795
>doomer and nigga both have the LC
One of these is supposed to be the QC, I guess?
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>>496761795
>arc thrower is the boomerjak
fitting because i'm the boomer of /hdg/
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>>496762235
>the drop pod actually brings in 2 EATs
This anon was never seen again.
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>>496762235
>why are they expendable?
It's not good to attach yourself to material possessions.
Also there is EAT 2. Every calldown you get EAT 1 and EAT 2.
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>>496761795
commandofags wish they were on the same tier as EAT
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>>496762372
the differences in the icon is so fucking subtle it's hard to pick up on
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>>496762372
Shit.
My bad. Doomer is supposed to be LC.
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>>496762372
we all know doomer is the LC and quasar is the nigger.
LC will never get a substantial enough buff and quasar has been the "le meta bugs" weapon on reddit for 3 months
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>>496762635
>we are buffing the LC
>write it into the patchnotes
>uh no, sorry, we actually weren't but forgot to remove it
JUST
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For me, it's the steriliser. I had my highest ever kill game with it therefore it's good.
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>>496760271
>Dominator for bots, Torcher for bugs
>Verdict or Stim Pistol
>Stun or Thermite, depending on team loadout
>Recoilless, sometimes Grenade Launcher for bugs
>Walking
>Airstrike
>120 or another Eagle for bots, depending on team loadout and specific mission
>Gatling, MG or AC Sentry for bugs
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I like using the Break Action.
Cause i like the break action.
It's good and satisfying on diff 1-3.
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>>496752060
This is a glowie data collection btw.
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>>496761045
It's surprisingly good a headshotting devs
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>>496762995
what are they going to do with your steam ID? look you up?
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>>496762814
How? The steriliser has no damage, it's just a shortrange braindamage sprayer
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>>496762235
>If EATs are so good, why are there no EAT2?
Brother we are at 17 already.
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>>496762635
The LC is the gun I take to bots from time to time because I think I can make it work this time for sure
After one mission it goes back into the locker to collect dust
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>>496763248
>patrol charges towards you
>walk backwards while hosing them all down
>kill the harder targets with primary
>move on while rover finishes them off
The confusion effect applies to chargers too so you can just spray em and ignore them. I find it's actually hard to die when running the steriliser.
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>>496763847
It needs to laydown clouds so you can spray it similar to the flame thrower and leave AoE laying around to constantly tick enemies that pass through it.
Also the confusion tick needs to proc faster.
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>>496764061
The acid rain effect present on piss planets would turn it and the brapdog into S tier weapons.
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>>496763497
thank fuck I'm not the only one
the LC should really be better than it is, same with scythe and dagger
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>>496764061
I'm fine with it as is but it and the flamethrower would seriously benefit from longer range. That and an armor reduction mechanic would be great.
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>>496763497
I always take the LC on bots
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I know it will never happen but I wish we got like a 32 player mode but there are no reinforcements.
I feel like it would have a lot of shitpost potential and I miss shit like huge E.Y.E., Sven etc. 4chan lobbies.
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clan shit will kill this general with its faggotry, mark my words
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>>496764784
>and an armor reduction mechanic would be great.
that's what gas should do
if anything has a confusion mechanic it should be smoke...i guess? but confusion seems to be a situationally better stun and is kind of uninspired
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>>496765459
we'll get through somehow
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>>496761480
>dropped your support and got reinforced on the other side of the map
>didn't pack any support weapons and haven't found anything better
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>>496763497
it's a good support to round out the xbow, but if I'm bringing a non explosive primary ill probably take RR instead. i like it in general for gunships and walkers though. i cant pinpoint hulk eyes with it anymore since the update but that's just a me problem
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>>496765395
Impossible due to demands of simulating 32 capes.
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>>496765459
>no no you don't understand we have to vote because it's DEMOCRACY
that faggot is from reddit and we all know it
if you fall for his bullshit guild you deserve what you get
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>>496765395
>32 mechs
STINGRAY GONNA FREAK
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>>496765395
>32 players
>no reinforcements
>no strategems
>break action only
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>>496765395
>assaulting bug homeworld
>literal oceans of bile titans
>32x Orbital 380
>kino

alternatively

>assaulting bot homeworld
>there are more lazers than air
>32x HMG turret
>kino

too based for the swede and snoystations would explode.
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>cant play the game without vitality booster and sprint booster
>3 people decide to pick neither on d10
>just not ready up until one of them swaps or i get kicked
call me a crutch diaper booster faggot
but
it's crazy how fucking god awful games are without both of these present
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>>496766736
Why pick sprint booster anymore? We got stimpistols now.
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>>496766736
I can agree with you about vitality booster, but the sprint booster is not as needed. I successfully play with heavy by just staggering and killing everything without ever needing to run or kite.
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>>496767086
>pubs
no one is using the stim pistol outside of hdg lobbies
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>>496766736
how the fuck would anyone know you want a sprint booster picked? nobody uses it
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>>496761795
>2 quasar cannons
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>>496767367
i ask in the chat
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>>496767369
make it the nigga that invented white people
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>>496763112
Yes.
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>>496764916
>try to target something for more than 1.4 seconds
>immediately get aim-flinched and/or rocketed
shit gun
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the only booster you actually need is the heart
everything else is luxury
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>>496761480
Fun. If the mission is going well, I'll pick one up.
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>>496767541
You mean Yakub?
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>>496767606
shit positioning will give you that
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>>496765395
PUBG did 10-man squad a few times and it was so fun
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>>496767710
Didn't fortnite do a 50v50, Me and some mates build a giant swastika in that.
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>>496767683
Put some respect on his name.
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>>496767541
>he doesn't know the name of our Great Father: Yakub
You bring shame to white people. Fire the nigger-ray and turn this faggot in a mulatto chimera of somali, yoruba and songhai, now!
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>>496768021
>>496768026
My fellow sons of our Lord and Creator.
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>>496765395
>everyone brings orbital napalm
>my GPU melts
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>>496763248
Im convinced people that say the sterilizer is good are baiting.

The effect is basically moot, if they're targeting you they will complete their swing and due to the weapons short range means you will be taking a hit from them.
And if you're taking hits from enemies in close range you might as well just use flamer or torcher.

Gas grenades are god tier if your team isn't packing chaff clear.
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>>496762626
so who and where is the actual AMR?
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>>496767976
yeah + PUBG has 50 vs. 50 and 10 vs. 90 zombie players, but only asian servers do it
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>>496768337
In the shadows, waiting fo the Hulk to stop bobbing around.
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>no fix to flamethrower DPS

Aite it's joever. They saw the DPS was the same as the torcher and said that's fine. No reason to run flamethrower never ever
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>5 games without crashes
is this what it feels to be happy?
I think it was because I had on some cpu option or because I moved helldivers to top priority, anyways I can finally play bots again
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>>496768310
Yeah, it's probably the same people the think the Libconc is good because muh CC
Just use a flamethrower, you can just kill all that shit instead of handing out some brain damage
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>>496767687
tell me you don't play d10 without telling me you don't play d10
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>>496768572
But they are right if they are playing vs bugs lmao. You are stupid if you think that stagger is not king for bugdiving.
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>dude GL is awesome and fun now on both bugs AND bots you gotta try it!!!!
>it's fucking shit on bots
fuck you niggers
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>>496768572
At least the libconc has range.
I could see SOME use for it like with laser drone. Because it actually pushes the enemy where you want them to be.

Blitzer and cookout sorta do the same job but better, but it's still a valid niche.
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>>496769000
>deletes everything that's smaller than a hulk
>shit
sounds like a skill issue
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>>496769000
Skissue desu, it's great on bots.
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>>496769000
What's your issue? If you are struggling with heavies then take EATs and/or thermite.
The only weapon as good at taking down groups of devs is airburst launcher. Don't be afraid to lay on the trigger, the fact it's automatic actually comes in handy on bots because you want shit to be dead ASAP.
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>>496769000
What's that? You suck shit?
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new (old) drip
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>>496769930
>cardboard body armor
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>>496770069
where we dive we don't need armor
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i want my ceremonial armor again
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=831232382
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>>496768493
This is literally what the community wanted. It has no right to demand otherwise.
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>>496770156
Me too.
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>>496769184
It can also kill Hulks with between-the-leg shots to splash the heat sink.
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>>496770385
What do you mean?
It's nerfed to like be barely stronger than release flamethrower. Only upside it has is the armor pen.
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>>496770807
Actually no it IS release flamethrower with AP 4.
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>>496768493
whats the bug
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>>496770807
Exactly. The fix to flamethrower mechanics from EoF would have given it consistent damage and higher overall DPS. But the community were being fucking idiots and wanted the old VFX combined with being able to kill Chargers from the front (they'll never admit the latter). So now they get stuck with the inferior product that they asked for.
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>>496771063
They copy pasted the torchers system to the flamethrower. Originally flamethrower would do 200 ticks of damage per second. So with 3 damage per tick it did 600 damage. Torcher would do 100 ticks for 2 damage.

By copy pasting the flame code to all the flamers, they forgot to set a tick value unique to all of them, and the flamethrower now has the same 100 ticks per second, now only doing 400 damage.

So they "buffed" the damage per tick from 3 to 4. But they halved the ticks.
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>>496770449
Is this always what you think of when you see a peaked cap?
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>>496770156
I wish we could unlock gear from our achievements insted of just buying it. Also the capes in first game look sick.
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>>496771518
But the old "inferior product" had higher DPS.
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>>496771518
>flamethrower should have gone back to being a meme weapon only good for chaff and setting yourself on fire
Set yourself on fire, retard.
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>>496771914
He can't the flamethrower is bad for it now.
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>hmm today I will try the GL on bugs
>get hunter seed where every enemy is a giganigger that jumps in your face
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>>496772156
>He doesn't have something in his kit specifically for hunters

Especially when it's so easy to find something that hard counters them.
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>>496772156
Idk, just don't run into tight places? Or use an ally as decoy and shoot shit that isn't closest to him (that will indeed help him).
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Lobby doko
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>>496772523
Post lobby I will join.
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>>496768683
>ad hominem
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>>496770119
>This is medium armor
>Literally the same armor base but painted green and with MORE armor visually is considered light armor
>But we can't get transmog system because "armor with specific effects is supposed to look the part"
I fucking hate swedes so much.
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>>496772523
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>>496771518
actual arrowhead employee
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>>496772615
Thank you for confirming that you don't play d10, because if you did, you'd realize positioning doesn't mean shit when you have 3 patrols with 2 hulks and 6 heavy devastators each homing in on your location from random directions
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>>496772791
I think you dont actually want lobby and just ritual post here. I have seen you do it several times now.
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ACAMAR-IV
BUGS
D10
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241894040084/76561198358217889
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>>496773294
full
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>>496773234
okay but lobby doko tho?
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>>496773294
full
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>>496773294
3/4
>>496773343
N
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actual real shotgun support weapon could be cool. Imagine something like an 80 round belt fed 4 gauge auto shotgun. The ultimate close range swarm clear. Similar power to the MG but you trade range for more daka. Id love that.
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>>496773343
>>496773423
Lying niggers.
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>>496764916
Rail gun feels like it does the same niche but by spending less time aiming and standing still.

AMR also just does it without needing to standing still.
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>>496773423
I
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is ark overrated?
idk it kinda deals shit damage and 2-3 targets at once is really bad on bugs
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>>496773537
I just want some flechette shotgun with a wide beam, or like some melta gun shotgun. Just something that requires you to be danger close to enemies, and evaporates them.
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>>496772791
>He doesnt know
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2/4 d10 something
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>>496774207
full
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>>496774207
3/4
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I play bots not because I like playing against them, but because every victory against these faggots gets us closer to cyberstan and we´ll get to wipe them off the face of the fucking galaxy. Every death or failure fuels my hatred and motivates me to hit the clankers back twice as hard.
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>>496772868
You will never convince me that the average bugdiver somehow knows more about the game than even fucking Alexus.
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>>496773784
>evaporates them
Thats something deeprock does pretty well that I've never noticed from helldivers. Enemy death variety depending on what killed them. Glyphids in deeprock can get popped like balloons from embedded explosives, blown apart by grenades, melted and dissolved in acidic goo, frozen and shattered into chunks, literally vaporized into ash by plasma weaponry. Enemies in helldivers don't really die in any interesting ways that I've noticed.
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>take a break from bot front
>try d10 bugs
>every mission is a borderline failure, full of incompetent barrage placements and retarded teammates
back to bots it is
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>the space station is just going to be free stratagems for the planet it's orbiting, and its location will be decided by voting
>this is basically just a blob rally point
>the blob will ALWAYS fight underneath this station, because funny orbital death cannon
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>>496775043
>He hasn't railgun'd the warrior terminids into a fine molecular slurry yet, or cut berserkers in half at the midpoint with a MMG burst

Shiggy
Diggy
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>>496775043
RG shooting warrior bugs makes them pop.
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>>496775043
you don't look hard enough
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>chargers/hulks on the move
>throw eagle airstrike at it
>keep stunning it with arc thrower so it doesn't move until airstrikes kill it
you gotta trap 'em sometimes. i stopped taking EAT and commando each time because arc stuns again
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so i went to D10 to test out the "robot chicken hard counters HMG emplacement"
it doesnt.
this thing takes like 5-6 robot chicken rockets directly to the front of it before exploding
that anon who said that its not viable on high bots is a class A retard.
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>>496774758
Nigger Alexus thought removing the shrapnel from the eruptor wouldn't affect its breakpoints, that's how bad it is at narrowhead
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>>496775608
No, Arrowhead is really good.
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wat
you can find primaries on the ground?
since when was this a thing?
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>>496775393
I think this patch fucked arc thrower some how.
Used to be able to stun chargers out of their charge, now you can't.

Also laser rover feels considerably weaker than before. Takes a noticible 2 seconds to kill an alpha warrior. But maybe I'm just not used to it targeting alphas.
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>>496775785
I think that only happens on high value evac missions. The spawn pool is larger than other missions, once I found a RR without a backpack
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>>496774758
Genuinely think they were just being deceptive when they said they "buffed" the flamethrower. They didn't want to say "oh well we have to actually nerf the DPS, but we upped the damage per tick by 33%"
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]>>496775830
>I think this patch fucked arc thrower some how.
>Used to be able to stun chargers out of their charge, now you can't.
Literally just you, I just got done stunlocking 3 chargers and a sporefucker in a neat little line mid-charge. Love my expanded circuits.
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>>496774758
>alexus
out of everyone you chose the worst one. who's bar is so low that a cripple could go over it
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>pandion succeeds
>defense events just stop after 3-4 in a row
>main force now on acamar which is the only planet really threatening turing
>2 days left on MO
>one step closer to the dss
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>>496776012
I was in a match like 1 minute ago, didn't stun spore chargers out of their charge, didn't stun behemoths out of their charge.

Were they charging?
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>>496774758
What's it like being a teenager today?
Is it really as bad for you as everyone believes?
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>>496776110
I hope every dss mo isn't 5 days long. Cause damn it's a drag to just wait around
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>>496776332
It's gonna be.

Then theres probably going to be a 5 day MO after that.
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>>496776332
Good things come to those who wait
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>>496775830
it stuns each time for me. if anything, i think they made it miss more again after the big update
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>>496776593
I've noticed that it seems to wiff when it comes to differences in elevation more often.
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>>496775785
Are you sure someone just didn't die there? Dropped primaries are free because everyone always respawns with one.
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>>496775785
I usually see them at the fake super sample rock, but only above D4
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>>496775785
breaker incendiary is in the ground weapon pool
so is scythe. i think low diff exclusive PoIs
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>>496776003
The funny thing is that every AP4 weapon is now equally terrible at killing heavies, because they have so much HP that you need a proper AT weapon to kill them. So all the community's whining ultimately got them nowhere on that front.
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>>496777286
on bots*
chargers die to 3 AMR shots and titans die to 11 AMR shots.
but yeah i agree with your statement in the context of bots
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>>496777286
>The funny thing is that every AP4 weapon is now equally viable
Arrowhead sends their regards
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>>496777286
just hit the head
>tanks
the sole reason why i don't consider thermites to be cheesy
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>>496777286
Hulks still get shredded by AC/AMR/HMG/RG but anything heavier is tough. Yet it's still not a waste to RR Hulks because they are just that much more lethal now.
I remember dooming about how the patch will kill AT. lol
>>496777404
>chargers die to 3 AMR shots
I don't think so
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>>496778285
they do, close range 3 ass shots with the AMR and they explode
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>>496778434
>normal charger ass: 950 hp, 80% durable
>behemoth ass: 950 hp, 100% durable
>AMR: 450 damage, 180 durable damage
so for normal ones: 0.2*450 + 0.8*180 = 234 damage/shot
and behemoths: 0*450 + 1*180 = 180 damage/shot
was it stealth buffed or do I just not understand how damage works in this game?
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>>496776823
just bushes for me sometimes
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>>496779459
>charger meta used to allow shooting them when they were stopping a charge because their armor just vanished during a certain animation
it's entirely possible something is still just broken with them
or, knowing AH, using certain weapons (meaning certain ammo types) on the 'weak points' actually makes them take more damage for muh realistic reasons
I wouldn't know, I don't know guns.
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>play for the first time in 2 months
>read the Eruptor was restored
>try it out
>it's still shit
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>D7 solo eradicate missions still impossible
How do they not know how broken their game is?
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>>496780238
It used to have the shrapnel from the orbital airburst, now it's stuck with shrapnel from the frag grenade which is much worse.
Just use the crossbow if you want an explosive primary, it's unironically the best primary in the game right now
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>>496780238
The skill issue is off the charts.
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>>496780648
?Why?
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>>496780756
The frag grenade has shrapnel?
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>>496780648
The game shouldn't accommodate playing solo
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>>496780648
that would require them to play the game

>>496780779
Reinforcements come in so slow that you cannot kill enough enemies to reach 100% before the timer runs out
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>>496780854
Where do you think the 'frag' part of 'frag grenade' comes from?
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>>496780779
they've scaled down the tempo of reinforcement and broke it completely for solo players and that's a good thing
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>>496779459
you could go in game and try it
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Hey Arrowhead, could we get a rifle of the same caliber and barrel length as the HMG, with the scope of a marksman's rifle, and with a standard magazine? Maybe we could make a new Liberator rifle with those specifications in the next warbond. We could call it the Liberator Piercer, or Liberator Perforater...
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>>496781627
How many DMRs does this game need at this point?
We already have 6 ARs.
6 shotguns.
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>>496780238
1. The Eruptor will never be as strong as it was during release, because as the other anon said it used to use Orbital Airburst shrapnel, which made it stronger than most support weapons.

2. Literal skill issue on your part, current Eruptor is much stronger than explosive-only Eruptor at its peak as long as you're not trying to shoot high-durability targets.

>>496781627
The HMG is more or less fine as it is. Just set it to low RPM and learn to burst fire, it's not hard.
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>>496781918
That only works at short ranges. The scope is too shitty to snipe with it.
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>>496782106
>sniping with a machine gun
Just use the AMR if you want to do that.
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>>496781902
We only have 2 marksman's rifles though
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>>496781902
We have 2, and honestly only one of them is worth using. The HMG DMR is a good idea.
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>If the swigger decides to lock stratagems behind rank
what the fuck does that mean are they planning to lock platoon strats behind rank?
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>>496782354
it's so your retarded platoon mates won't nick the single use nuke for retarded nonsense
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>>496782354
>lock stratagems behind rank
They already do that though, it's just that the highest rank required to unlock anything is 25.
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10 bugs on acamar
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241901104270/
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>>496773294
The BZZT was Kino
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>>496782354
>CL gets his own personal quad minigun mech
Kino?
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>>496782807
If that's the case I'm 100% going to frag him just to steal it
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>>496782635
3/4
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We all agree that drawGOD will be our CL, yes?
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>>496783339
I love our drawfag but I'll admit he's too reddit to give the keys to.
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>>496782731
>want to post webm
>can't hide usernames
I won't be a doxlet
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>community votes for where the super death star should go
>low information bug voters swing every election to bugworld every week
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>>496783339
drawchad has already stated they wish to be the goebels to whoever is voted CL.
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>>496783779
wow, it's just like voting for anything in real life
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>>496783779
>implying Managed Democracy won't ensure the most votes go towards bringing the Super Earth Super Mobile Super Space Station exactly where Joel wants it to go
If the voting is handled in-game, there is a non-zero chance this is how it will work.
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>>496783872
>game has to be le epic ironic mirror of real life!!
God forbid people want an escape
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>>496783779
Could you faggots go one thread without crying about bugs?
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>>496783541
>too reddit
Lügenpresse.
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>>496784183
No.
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Draw anon I would like to make another request.
I would like to see some scavengers trying to operating a HMG emplacement. The gun is firing wildly at random things and maybe helldivers causing chaos.
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>>496782635
3/4 starting with a pub
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>>496784025
>We've just been notified about 6 million mail in ballots from uh uhhhh... Hellmire! The votes will have to be recounted, please excuse the inconvenience. For Democracy!
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>>496784312
>trying to operating
trying to operate
I really need to proof-read before posting
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>>496784183
nyet
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d10 bot, last mission and we can choose from there mayhaps
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>>496782150
No, it's kino and I used to do that on Arma 3 a decade ago. MG sniping is based as hell.
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>>496783779
I actually wouldn't expect any of the casual players to vote at all.
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>>496784679
full
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>>496781918
It's only only "much stronger" at doing shit that other weapons already do better, it has no AoE.
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exploding cactus tree >>> eruptor "frag"
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>just chose to use the Stall at max rpm for melee
Oh god, it's like i'm cumming...
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>>496785784
Am i the only one that doesn't die from these? They barely do damage at all.
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>kill alpha commander by shooting the head
>game rewards me by not killing it and making it sprint towards me at mach 5 to swipe me one last time, taking half my health
IF I KILL AN ENEMY IT SHOULD FUCKING DIE
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>>496786271
Me either. But I also never bring a mech which gets shredded by them.
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>>496781918
>. Literal skill issue on your part, current Eruptor is much stronger than explosive-only Eruptor at its peak as long as you're not trying to shoot high-durability targets.

Hard debatable. It was nearly the same as explosive crossbow with a very reliable damage as everything in a set range just took the damage.
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>>496786362
it does die, blowing up the head puts it in a fatal bleed out state
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>>496786362
That's why you double tap them or shoot their legs off
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>>496786362
>not aiming for the nerve stem
skill issue, someone needs to rewatch their training video again https://youtu.be/kdrjzE1SE58?si=RWR7v10wC-uzpUDZ
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>>496786692
And that only takes 20 seconds. They also have a laser-accurate bead on your position despite having no senses.
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>>496786362
Melee them once when they run up to you. The parry interrupts their combo and they die before they can attack again, due to their coding.
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>>496754151
>We need to get on Acamar
Acamarballs fag, fuck bugdivers.
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>>496786362
>he doesn't melee them before they can melee him
actual fucking skill issue
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>>496786943
Or just move sideways. They'll miss their attacks and die before they can turn to attack again.
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>4chan has a new auto-filter that straight up denies your posts
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>>496786943
Unless they get stuck in the infinite charge combo which I'm pretty sure is a bug.
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>>496786907
>despite having no senses
Look at this fucking bug expert here, with his deep knowledge of Terminid anatomy.
>>
I
WON'T
LET
SHELT
FALL
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>>496787345
IT
SHELT
NOT
FALL
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>>496783673
I honestly dont really care for that, but I cant speak for everyone. Just wish to see that surströmming session
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looking through all the careers in the vote, a lot of you motherfuckers are bugdivers
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>>496786692
you can keep them alive without their head by shooting them with the stimpistol :)
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>>496782635
>everyone crashed
it's fucking over...
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>>496786362
aint dead till it stops moving jim
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>>496783673
https://avidemux.sourceforge.net/
Just use the Logo feature in Filters to put an image or even just a black box over the name/text areas, or outright crop those parts out. Render, and then process the result through whatever WebM program you like to use.
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why the fuck can chargers still do 90 degree turns
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>>496783339
I'm voting for that anon that sperged about Tundra in the past thread.
Runzi or something.
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I feel a bit....confused...
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>Carbine, thermite, grenade launcher, supply pack, 500kg and napalm barrage
>Darius II
yeah, its bug killin time
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>>496783339
>drawGOD
wulfgamer
>>496788771
runzi isn't applying but if he is he's probably the "namefags tongue my anus" guy considering the guy's stats are total dogshit
>poor XP:mission time ratio indicates low diff diver
>overwhelming number of kills are terminid kills, he's a professed bugdiver
>low complete objectives:missions played ratio indicates he doesn't clean his plate
his only draw is that he has 800 melee kills
this also isn't runzi because runzi is much lower level and couldn't have gained this much exp
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wobby doko?
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241908198485/

lobby d10 probably bots
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>>496789663
3/4
>>496789568
get in here NOW
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>>496787309
They have eyes on their head. They breathe through their mouths, so scent is out. Anything else they have is obviously not enough for them to detect me walking 10 feet behind them.
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>>496789087
ANON NO
WHY DIDN'T YOU WASH YOUR FUCKING HANDS
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>>496789087
Yeah maybe, but I got you pegged!
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!

But I don't know what to do with those tossed salads and scrambled eggs
They're callin' again.
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>>496789663
3/4
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>>496789371
>To be the "clan leader" you need to submit to a bunch of sweatlords pouring over your stats nitpicking over the smallest details
This clan will be a disaster
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>>496790269
Literally nobody is doing it.
Also submitting profiles is unironic glowie behaviour.
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I want to point out to the general population that bugs are easier than bots, but there is an adjustment period for each front. If you do not allow yourself that period, your opinions might be completely incorrect and your brain needs correction. Further, we need an armor shader system, but all it needs to do is give us the default black and gold trim on all existing and future armors. In addition to the above, the DSS should be a form of managed democracy where the devs only give us so many planets to vote on, so that bugdiver morons won't hog it. Lastly, if the Illuminate don't show up soon, that's fine, but we at least need the Cyberstan Automatons to get released along with more variety of bot units. Remove rocket striders though.

Last point of today's meeting, the liberator is a good weapon.
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>>496789663
>Failed to join
Did you block me too?
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>>496790269
>to be clan leader you just have to make a clan and people who recognize you from lobbies will join because no one cares about some retard’s clique popularity contest and half the lobby gods are drukdivers who run meme builds anyway
MUH K/D MUH MUH MUH
metaslaves get GASSED
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>>496790560
i think he meant to type 4/4 but typo’d a 3/4
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>>496790560
try again
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>>496780238
what's the matter big guy? didn't you want the shrapnel because it was thematically cool and not because it just happened to be overpowered as fuck?
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What do I do when I see a rocket strider coming at me
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>>496791272
Yell at the screen. Works for me 50% of the time.
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>>496791272
If you have an AP3 weapon then shoot its crotch, that's a weak point. Not the legs, the crotch. Dominator works great for this.
Also dive forward. You'll likely evade the mini-ICBM rockets and blasterfire.
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>>496789371
Hey that's me. I'll answer your questions if you have any.
>poor XP mission time ratio indicates low diff diver
Lad I've played less than 20 missions on difficulties lower than D9
>overwhelming number of kills are terminid kills, he's a professed bugdiver
Bugs are more fun for my playstyle. I enjoy being swarmed and running straight through packs of bugs and completing objectives under high stress environments. I can set up two mortars on bots and win every time + a barrage, which I do on D10 by the way.
>low complete objectives missions played ratio indicates he doesn't clean his plate
I solo the main objective every single mission as my first priority because I enjoy triple patrols. I don't think you know what you're talking about.
>800 melee kills
I parry hunters, commanders, and warriors for fun.
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>>496789371
>MFW my stats are worse than this
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>>496791562
Don't bother. These queers do nothing but bitch about bugdivers because they're contrarian teenagers.
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>>496791272
If you have an AC:
>spam fire and whiff all but one hit to the leg that still won't kill it (lmao)
If you have an AMR:
>smoothly crouch down and pointfire one shot to the leg joint, killing it instantly and leaving any leandiver that may have witnessed the occurrence completely soaked
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i don't know why some of you homos hate classic bug-killing. i've been doing it since jet force gemini
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are we still forcing whoever the CL is to change their steam name to "Anon"? I can sense the namefagging beginning to brew.
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>>496792010
GIWTWM
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>>496792010
that guy'll be fineee
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>>496792010
>forgot to emote
kwab
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>Somehow managed to get a map with two stalker nests within sprinting distance of one another
>normal breezy mission goes to FUCKING SHIT STALKERS fast
>literally on and tonguefucking up your ass within five seconds of being dropped back in
The ONE fucking time I ditch the stuns for thermites and this shit happens. Had a great team though, they stuck with me instead of quitting and we ended up clearing the map with a single reinforce left.

Fuck stalkers.
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Am I not seeing something with the adjudicator? It's ass
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>>496792845
It's ass.
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>>496792845
Nobody said it wasn't
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>>496792845
I've found it best use case scenarion being against bugs when you run stalwart, and you need a weapon to deal with hiveguards.
And against bots if you want a weapon that can deal with armored chickens and you don't mind the high recoil and shit ammo.
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>>496792845
It's still not the accurate DMR it was introduced as, but it's decent on bugs because it's an AP3 AR. Shoot hive guards, commanders, and spewers in the face with it.
>>
shaka when the creek fell
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>>496791562
>Lad I've played less than 20 missions on difficulties lower than D9
sure so you just don't do sides (lol)
>bugdiver
okay sure i guess, i don't want you as a clan leader then
>solofag
okay sure i guess, i don't want you as a clan leader then
>meleegod
okay sure i guess, i want you as a clan leader now
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>>496790973
There is no shrapnel in these bullets, you will not gaslight me.
It literally has no more fucking AoE clearing capability than the crossbow.
And as someone already said the exploding cactus does more damage in a larger area.
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Bots D10 Shelt

<< OPERATION THEME BELOW >>

>GREEN STRATAGEMS ONLY
GREEN STRATAGEMS ONLY
>GREEN STRATAGEMS ONLY

Come enjoy the shitshow. TBD

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241911489787/76561197986229160
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>>496792845
It's not head and shoulders better than Liberator anymore now that those have been buffed across the board.

>>496793420
>Adjudicator is a DMR
What is this terminal brainrot.
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>>496793785
The TCS, the gas unloaded.
The TCS, the swarm unfurled.
Shaka when the creek fell...
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>>496794383
>What is this terminal brainrot.
That's what it was introduced as. It was in the Marksman Rifle category, and later got moved to the Assault Rifle category. It was even worse at aiming then than it is now.
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>>496794220
full
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>>496792572
you clearly don't hate them enough because you are still dying to them
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So is the amr just better then the auto cannon now?
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>>496794220
2/4
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>>496794220
failed to join
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>>496795223
Well you know, smoetimes a tongue up the ass feels nice, especially when you're with a good team
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There should be a round 2 for the top choice clan leader votes where they present their ideal loadouts to win and for fun on both fronts.
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>>496798540
Sounds stupid and gay.
This will just turn into a faggy popularity contest and lead to unnecessary drama.
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>>496756385
I know the rest of this pic...I was made to service leandiver COCK
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Eagle smoke strike? How about Eagle smoke break?
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Mmm smoked Eagle
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>rocket from a recoilless rifle ricochets from a fabricator
WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS THIS A THING
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>>496802535
Have you tried not shooting at an angle
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PSA thermites are sticky so don't drop them
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241916898465/76561198391046460
Join if you want
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how about eagle smoke this dick
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>>496803195
2/4 pubs will join
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>>496802837
Why didn't you dive into the hole?
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>>496803195
Full, let me know if I need to kick one
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>>496794220
GG
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>>496803925
Let me in!
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Hello FRIENDS. Hosting a D10 bot lobby.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241918118571/76561198061988256
Join me on the SES Fist of Freedom
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>Joel lowered Shelt's decay rate to 0.5% just for us
How nice of him.
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>>496805719
FULL ty friends
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>>496805314
Try now
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>>496768310
If you actually spend your ammo, the gas from the sterilizer reaches up to 40 meters away.
40 meters. And it stays for a bit. Use it to control your enemies and buy space and and you can lock down an entire section of bugs, shoot a lot earlier than you'd think and it'll still confuse the fuck out of them, then, switch to your primary and pummel away at helpless bugs.
You can literally aim up and spray in arcs and it'll fucking kill shriekers while they're dancing. Try doing that with a flamethrower.
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>>496765862
Forgot
>Super President's Mansion
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So tired of fags thinking it's a race to see who can reinforce the fastest.
>die while in a group of 3
>get reinforced instantly by the solo-fag on the other side of the map
>blast him in his dumb face
>"??"
Drives me up the wall it does.
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>>496798540
extremely gay, it's already too much namefagging and popularity autism. We just need a clan leader who will do the absolute minimum with zero drama and zero discordtroons.
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>>496807239
Did you press space to "ping" the revive?
That's my rule, if you ping people you cant complain about who's reinforcing
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>>496765395
>massive overloaded playercounts
>reinforcements, if you get any, are assigned per player
>permadeath when you run out, you're out of the mission and have to join another or go back to regular operations
>other players can jump into freed up permadead slots, since this is a special non-standard operation, each instance is pseudo-persistent until failed or completed
>super duper objectives like a Diff10 fortress times 10 where the goal is to grind through the whole thing and reach the core
Would you?
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>>496807753
I did not no.
I died and the fag raced to get the reinforce off.
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>>496807753
Speaking of, the request reinforcements button should make the sound only for the person you're spectating.
Like that would make so much more sense to let you request a specific person to reinforce you rather than just requesting everyone as if they couldn't fucking tell you're dead.
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>>496808904
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>>496808904
I want to tell you that the visors should be oranger, because right now it looks like the helldivers are all brownoids, but I know for the fact the helldivers ARE brownoids, so I guess it's fine
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>>496808904
A worthy sacrifice for liberty...
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>>496803195
3/4
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>got hit with a fucking tag combo from an impaler and hunter
just when I thought nothing would beat tower cannon rag doll into heavy dev attack.
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>>496809115
>helldivers ARE brownoids
WRONG! It's like a 20% chance to be white.
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>>496810071
"""white"""
I've seen that democracy officer's schnoz, they're fooling no one. It's the zog army in the helldiver corps.
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BOT D10 3/4 JOIN UP
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241918118571/76561198061988256
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>D10 bugs with randoms
>we're handily winning and cleaning up shit
>just so happen to have all the main objectives in close proximity
>accomplish mission in record time
>stupid fucks decide to immediately gun it for extraction instead of doing any of the incomplete secondary objectives
>they even know where the Mega Nest is because I pinged it and typed in chat that it was the Mega Nest
>this has happened two times already

Why are randoms such fucking pussies? I thought you picked D10 for the extra challenge and to clear the fortress outpost.
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>>496810446

YOU GUYS TOOK TOO LONG. CLOSING LOBBY
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>>496762626
So the only depicted AntiMaterial Rifle is a troon fantasy ?
Where is the real one anon?
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>Diff 10, bugs
>Everything goes smooth, my team mates have died a couple times from the get go but decide to iron through and play along
>branch off and do my shit because these dudes are fighting pointlessly for nothing
>go and solo the mega nest with my emmancipator walker
>wrap up the nest and go clear another medium sized nest that was nearby
>Host begins to sperg out for some weird reason and kicks me
There are some serious spergs playing this shit i swear, people will behave like bitches because you are not dedicated enough to baby sit their asses.
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>>496810745
They are mostly low level shitters farming for XP because d10 triple the gain but don't enjoy the extra challenge, this is why I say just because someone is level 150, doesn't mean they are good.
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Give me a retard proof bug loadout
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>>496810745
I play a lot in the early mornings and the ones who usually speedrun the missions without clearing side objectives are the chinks.
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>>496802535
it's worse when a RR rocket ricochets from the pinky toenail of a bile titan, hell even chargers ricochet that shit.
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>>496811504
>d10 bot
>host decided to fuck off from the rest of the team
>dies 10 mins later in the middle of nowhere
>the other 2 guys are busy holding off waves of dropships
>"Ah, guess it's up to me to call the host in"
>host drops in
>"FUCK YOU R3!"
>You have been kicked from the game
Legit don't know what the fuck I do wrong, was it because I called him in too far away from his support weapon and samples?
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>>496811970
Bring EATs and call them in whenever CD is up. No matter what else you do, you'll be helpful to the team.
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>>496811970
incel breaker, supply pack, quasar, medic armor.
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>>496812798
He said retard proof, incel breaker is not retard proof since you'll probably light your teammates on fire and kill them.
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>>496812567
Probably he expected you to run near his weapon and call it in, actual fucking retards like that do exist.
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consonant only /hdg/ frequenter who hosted the last lobby, I know you said you'd host in a bit, but do you mind if I start a lobby now?
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>my application looks like a huge redditor compared to the others
>nobody else even included their stats
bleak
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>>496813740
what
4 people included their stats
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>>496813740
Don't feel bad about your application anon I phoneposted mine because I was at work
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>>496813507
I'm eating, "later" meant something like 2 hours lol
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>>496813793
well I probably don't have time to be the invite janny anyway, and I doubt the clan will have any amazing functionality besides the extra 'clan order' that was leaked which will end up being "kill 500 bile titans"
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>>496812798
Cookout is more retard-proof since you can push Alphas and Hunters away and has probably the best ammo economy in the game
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>>496813740
People who included their stats are attention whoring, most of them are also cringe bug divers lmao.
Especially the first two edgy retards, they surely think they are already in the bag with the amount of edge they put on their shit.
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>>496813917
Well shiiiid
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241923722464/76561198024623656
Super intelligence reports suggest that Osama Bot Laden is operating in our next operation. That's right! (You) could be the next diver to take down the greatest terrorist threat that Super Earth has ever faced!
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If you want a balanced view of stats between bug and botdivers, what would be an effective multiplier for automaton kills? 1.2x? 1.4x? 2x?

Botfront kill counts average 150-300 (225 avg based on not researched guessing), buggfront kill counts average 250-400 (325 avg based on not researched guessing). About a 1:1.4 ratio, I guess?

It's hard to calculate, because you definitely will see huge bug games that hit ~1k+ kills on a single player. The highest bot kill counts I've seen all fall short of 600 (1.4*600<1000).
It's pretty hard to level the playing field, numbers-wise.
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Why are people so weird about hosting their own lobbies? Not just on here, but in general. People bitch and moan about the state of pubs or getting kicked all goddamn day, but then refuse to just... host their own shit. It's truly baffling, desu. There's always going to be mouthbreathers random queuing, you'll always get joiners. And people here who say 'lobby lobby lobby' all day just fuckin post your own already holy shit.
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>>496814346
Most of this general is bugdivers talking mad shit and pretending to be hard.
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>>496814643
nobody likes being accountable for what happens
most people are naturally submissive and agreeable and they just want to go with what others say and do
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>>496814346
I only included my stats because the guy asked. I am not edgy, just being honest. It is very dumb this has to occur. I am a meektard and just want the cringe to end.
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>>496814825
But nothing changes except you won't get randomly kicked. You just mute annoying people and play the game. Literally nothing changes it makes no sense to me. Also you get to pick the operation you want to play... It makes my brain hurt trying to get myself in a headspace where such a simple fucking thing gets people twisted.
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>>496814643
Low-t levels leads to low-t behavior.
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>>496811970
the de facto most overpowered type of bug loadout right now is double napalm plus green/blue heavy killers. this is how I usually build mine:

stratagems: napalm airstrike, napalm orbital barrage, rocket sentry, explosive support weapon (spear and RR if lazy, autocannon and grenade launcher if willing to aim)
for your primary, take either of the fire shotguns - cookout spreads the fire dot less quickly but is easier to manage, plus it has top tier stagger force making it the most idiot-friendly pick on bug side
secondary, obviously the grenade pistol to shred bug nests and do the occasional cool as fuck clutch kill
tertiary, thermite grenades as extra insurance against big bugs, alternatively gas grenades for sealing off chokepoints and synergizing with your eagle/orb
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>>496811225
fuck, my ass thought you guys were about to halo jump. Brain is on thr metal gear solid delta train
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>>496776332
Mind this is just them setting up the lab. The science boys on Turing probably won't even make that breakthrough after the MO succeeds. It'll probably have to take them a good few weeks to a month to come up with a more fuel efficient FTL.
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>>496783779
It's Managed Democracy, anon. You don't get to vote on a candidate, you vote based on a bunch of questions of what you think about democracy and so and such, and then the AI decides what's the best option for you.
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>>496814554
One bot for every two bugs is probably the average
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>>496815556
Yeah and we gotta get through liberty day. AND don't forget about all the defenses of Gaellivare they have to spam out, AND defenses of other planets to stall our progress from protecting it so that it won't be "too easy" (i.e. Joel needs to railroad us so his job isn't hard).

So yeah we'll get the DSS by christmas maybe if we're lucky. Illuminate never ever they can't even get their stupid new bot units working right.
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>>496816229
Gotta protect the lab until the science nerds cook up the new tech and also protect Trash since that's where all the parts for the DSS are being stockpiled too.
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>>496768493
Reminder that I told them about this problem a week ago. I don't think anyone else reported flamethrower problems directly to the staff, and the community is too busy using actually good weapons to realize the flamethrower isn't working right, let alone not worth using in the first place. They could fix the damage and with how fire ricochets at the player, fails to pierce enemies, etc, it still wouldn't be worth using. It's a lost cause and these swiggers won't bother fixing it since nobody is complaining at them.
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>>496814643
my ISP can be described as disingenuous hebrews that run a trashy shoestring infrastructure which makes my connection sputter out for a good few seconds at least once and up to several times a day. which would be a mere inconvenience in pretty much all other games but in this one it has a high potential to break the lobby and give everyone AIDS.
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>>496807239
i get it, but it's a toss up. more than half of the people i end up playing with in pubs leave if they aren't reinforced immediately and i think most people, unless it's a grinder situation, would rather be back in action than sitting around watching, unfortunately
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>>496816784
It's a bit better since they relaxed the poor connection kick
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Thank you for joining my D10 bot friends. was a fun set of rounds.
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241926464988/76561198219510551
D10
odds bugs
evens bots
0 I close the lobby

Also my helldiver has black skin, I don't know if that matters.
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LMG,DAKKA DOG, EHMG, GATLING
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>>496809671
It's always the hunters that get you when you're at your lowest.
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How do we nerf the explosive crossbow
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>>496818835
by not using it
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>>496818469
2/4
D10 bugs, come join
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>>496818469
2/4 join NOW
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>>496818835
I dunno, but when it happens, it's going to be hilarious.
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>>496806887
>40 meters

There's no way, does it need to ramp up distance while shooting?
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>>496818835
Bigger blast radius exterior, so that it absolute fucks over people that shoot it up close.

That's it honestly. I think all other weapons should be on the same tier as Xbow.
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>>496818469
3/4 mid op
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>>496793808
Damn dude its not that serious. Who cares about literally any of that. Including who leader is?
Plus wulf joined a lobby of mine. He seems like totally normal well adjusted human being. Unlike whoever typed this out.
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Where's the content? 4 weeks of DSS MOs is not content.
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>>496819964
Pretty much, yeah. It also pierces units very far away. Try using it for some long bursts while sweeping your aim from one side to the other, then switching to your primary and clear away. You're not meant to be using it like the flamethrower killing things (because why would they release just a reskinned flamethrower?), it's a different weapon for different purposes.
Hell, you can puff a charger on his face while he's charging at you and if he's far enough he'll actually miss you by a wide margin, it's only an objectively bad weapon against bile titans, tanks, factory striders and stuff because they're literally immune to the confusion effect.
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>>496820476
Purifier buff soon(tm)
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>>496820413
I have often found people that doodle for fun are pretty chill
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>>496816490
Why should napalm "pierce" enemies? It'd make more sense for it to "splatter" off of them to create burning aoe around.
Overall it just needs more range and damage.
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>>496820169
unprivate the lobby if you are still 3/4
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STOP
YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY THE HOLDS UP SPORK OF DOOM
YOU MUST NOW GO TO https://hd2random.com/, RANDOMIZE EVERYTHING, GENERATE A LOADOUT, AND FINISH A D10 MISSION WITH IT
HERE'S MINE, GOD BLESS SUPER EARTH
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>>496752263
>failed to join
why can't you retards say when it's full or not
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>>496822351
I'm not the host but we apparently got pub aids, need to wash hands
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>>496752263
say when it's FUCKING full next time assholeए.
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how do you check recent players
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>eruptor
>grenade launcher pistol
>mines
>air burst rocket launcher
>mortar sentry
>gatling sentry
oh yeah its tk time
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I'm back
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241930692727/76561198391046460
Bots
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>>496822590
settle down rajesh
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>>496822993
Bro your napalm barrage with its insane 60m instant death radius?
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>>496823186
Full
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>>496818692
Sir, your knight and eagle strafe?
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>>496823186
3/4
Last erad
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>>496826254
dang, just missed the slot
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Napalm impacts with fire retardant armor are very nice. Multiple hunters in your face? Chuck eet
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>>496822590
Imagine sperging our over this of all things. Maybe you need a break from the game, buddy
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>>496826465
You didn't miss much desu, spawns are lackluster with RRs
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>>496816490
I reported it as well last monday last week
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Gentlemen, I hate sweden
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any lobbies?
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>>496820924
I just tested it. It is only 18 meters (exactly the same as all other flame weapons)., and does not "extend" in range the longer you shoot it.

Sterilizer is shit, and recommending it is bait.
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>>496822542
>updated to current patch
about damn time
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>>496829484
>damage exceeded well over cape-shredding requirement
kek what the fuck
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>>496820924
It's really fun to fuck with chargers but this 40 range shit is bs. I've been doing a lot of gas armor, gas strike, gas grenades, sterilizer, and torcher for my damage. It's way too much fun even if though I know it's not as strong as just killing things. Plus shriekers fuck you hard.
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>weapons and equipment OSP (on-site procurement)
how fucked are you?
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>>496830032
Give me like 30 mins
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>>496830983
Well when the guards don't seem to care about your existence, should be pretty easy (when they don't hide their weapons underground)
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>>496830983
>can only melee
>need to find a support weapon from a vault/ammo cache

be kinda fun to do that like solo with throwing knives only.
No callins, no resupplies, need to find ammo from POIs.

Not sure what difficulty you'd do that on.
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>>496829484
>>496830764
I gotta admit, dying in retarded and stupid ways is one of the best parts of this game.
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>>496831210
If they wanted to actually make it, they should make it so that all points of interest have a random weapon or stratagem on them. Then it'd be doable on d10
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>>496831307
I was just saying for a self imposed challenge.
Maybe pistol only until you find a support weapon.
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>>496830983
If POIs had a 30-50% support weapon spawn rate on them, it would be extremely easy.
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>>496830424
>3 chargers is "too many chargers'
holy fucking shit bugdivers are fucking pussies and ruined the game with their fucking whinging
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Actually looks kinda fun.
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>>496831210
>melee only
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>>496831598
There were more before that clip during the breach, not that we were actually struggling with it. Either way, stay out of my super helldives.
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>>496831969
>trying to walk it back
You were the one that titled the webm "too many chargers" which is the same as saying you find the amount of chargers shown in the webm to be unreasonable. Nobody could see or tell there were more before or after as that information was not included. the only evidence we have for what you consider to be an excessive amount was the three shown.
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>>496831598
>>496832376
You are autistic and don't understand jokes, get a personality outside of hd2.
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>>496832376
k, I'll be sure to rename this webm to "more chargers than usual this game but still a reasonable amount" going forward
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it's 6am and I can't sleep
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>>496832835
good morning
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>push update to fix the dogshit audio
>the audio is still dogshit
does anyone even fucking work at arrowhead?
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>>496831270
While it's hilarious sometimes.
What's not funny is how right now with the bots (and sometimes bugs) you can get shot, and then stuck in slowmo mode without any weapons out and can just walk forward until you die.
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>>496831741
half decent bug loadout
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How do make bugs as hard as automatons so shitters don't flock to only fighting bugs
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>>496830032
YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775241938727503/
D10 BUGS
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>>496832835
Don't worry, you'll find sleep 45 minutes before your alarm is set to go off
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>>496833501
give them guns
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>>496833379
Half decent bot loadout.
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>>496833517
3/4 FUCK in WE'RE AVAILABLE
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>>496831598
>Funny clip posted
>Hm akshually bots are harder
Holy shit shut the fuck up retard
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>>496828995
OFF THE TOP ROPE
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>>496833517
OK NOW WE'RE FULL
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>>496833501
Honestly solo bugs is way harder than solo bots, so I dont' know what you could do to make them harder. Probably just longer cooldown on reds, or nerf cluster/napalm orbital.
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>>496833759
full
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>>496833501
provide the common bug with ranged weaponry
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>>496834101
Termagants pls
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>>496833501
The reason most people play bugs is because it's the only fucking thing advertised.
Its the only thing you get trained to do in the opening tutorial.
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>>496833501
Double the spawn rate of bugs by bringing back the old system of longer mission=more opponents
People will still only play bugs because it's the funniest faction, but atleast D10 will be kind of a challenge now
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>>496834965
Yeah honest people just want to shoot more bugs.
Just need more frequent spawns but not too much that the game turns into kite diver.
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>botties (and soon to be squiggers) still can't cope with being the secondary attraction
bugs are on the cover, bugs are in the tutorial. Buggods run the game just like in HD1
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>>496835125
Everyone wants to LARP as Mobile Infantry.
Nobody wants to play Terminator Salvation.
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>>496833501
double hunter spawns with 150% HP
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>starts evac when we are still collecting samples
I killed your dumbass and kicked you for being a dipshit
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>find Guard Dog Vanilla on map
>have empty backpack slot
>take it
>it's actually pretty useful
Huh.
Doesn't shoot me in the head, and kills the clanker trash that gets too close.
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>bugfuckers still coping about playing on easy mode
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>>496836897
honestly fuck that, one nice thing about bugs is that they spawn a shit load of enemies with low HP. So AOE weapons that do piddle damage actually have a nice niche clearing off dangerous chaff like hunters.
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>>496836908
you are the worst kind of player
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>>496831270
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>>496836952
Pssh, it shoots 8 bullets into one baby Terminid and has a magazine of what, 40 rounds?
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>>496836908
You understand that "starting the evac" is a good thing right? Even if your team needs to do 3 secondaries and destroy 2 more bases. It's an incredibly good thing to start the evac, hell on D10 i'd prefer rushing to the evac as soon as main obj is done.
Getting inside the evac is a bad thing. And if someone does this then a nigger call and a kick is the correct course of action
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>>496837012
your trash and are treated like the filth you are
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>>496837194
Idiot
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>>496837240
line of logical thought is too complex for the average sample monkey thobeit
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>>496836908
retard
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>>496837194
Actually, I've seen it perfectly 3 shot a terminid warrior. It's a bit RNG, but what you're really using the slot for is as an early warning to ninja bugs sneaking up behind ya
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>>496836952
it's great cause it pops dev heads fast
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>>496837240
nigger you sound like you are bad at the game lmao
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>All these missiles and war footage from Israel
>Makes me realise how unrealistic the ingame orbital strikes are and how much better they would be if they moved slower and were brighter both travelling and in impact
Step your game up arrowhead
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>>496835125
If it keeps all the retards out of the bot front I'm fine with that desu
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>>496837329
Playing with pubbies will have them run into the evac without you even being there.
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>>496836908
Yikes. You sound like a terrible person to spend any amount of time with.
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>>496837510
>they have jump jets now
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>>496837510
>literally and unironically linking reddit
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>>496836908
Getting kicked is actually a blessing, it fucks with spawns so nothing appears and basically you get a free run to pick up everything and extract easily. You're better off keeping them around and not reviving them.
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>>496837573
yes
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>>496837525
why would any anon worth his salt be sample hunting in pubs?
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>>496836908
>muh samples
How's D5 treating you?
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>>496833517
WE NEED ONE MORE 3/4 LAST MISSION
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We need a mode that lets us bring 8 slots worth of stratagems
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>>496837560
They always did
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>>496837663
I don't know, anon. Maybe he doesn't have any friends?
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>>496837701
>we need an easy mode
(You) need one
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>>496836908
Bro the pelican waits on the pad for you to get in once it has landed. It'll wait forever.
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>>496837701
No, we need an indoor, no strategems except direct fire sentries, Resident Evil mode. You start with pistols only.
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>>496837825
sounds kino
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>>496837663
It's fun to hunt for loot while clearing mission
Even if I dont need it, the cute retards in my team might
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>>496837813
Just play bugs lmao
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>>496837941
you don't understand. anon is proposing to have 8 stratagem slots on bugs because 4 is not enough to win
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>>496837904
rinzu bros, how do we feel about this?
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AAAIEEEEEEEEEEE (ignore my ghetto way of censoring HDG bros)
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>>496838068
svol censor anon.
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>>496837663
I ALWAYS collect every sample I can find. I have zero need for samples. I'll even go out of my way to grab the egg/bot torso. Why? Because they're all spoils of war. They're MINE.
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>>496837904
Wouldn't trail blaze the entire map but I'll grab any I come by.
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>>496838068
>didn't even try to stim or shoot
>no fight or flight response, just complete panic
Holy fuck, you are actually a rabbit, or a deer, even.
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>>496837334
>>496837329
hey tranny are you OK?!?
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>take crossbow
>Click on a bug breach
>everything dies
>do it again
>everything dies again

So is this the new standard for primaries?
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What difficulty do you think best to casually collect super credits or is farming diff 1 missions the best?
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>>496837816
>>496837683
>>496837545
>>496837334
>>496837240
>>496837012
Tranny you can spam all you want but you will never be a woman lmaooo
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>>496838597
WRONG, liberator penetrator is for true BVULLS.
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>>496838068
aww, can't use the crossbow in CQB
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>>496838597
Best weapon in the game.
It's the new shitter crutch.
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>>496836908
BASED RINZU
KILL ALL NIGGERS STILL NOT COLLECTING SAMPLES
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>>496833501
The current spawn rate on bugs is still too low, though the number of heavies feels about right. They should increase the spawn rate of small bugs, as in give us 25% more Bile Spewers and 50% more Warriors and Hive Guards. Give Hive Guard heads the same protection as Heavy Devastator shields, give us more Alpha Commanders and Hunters, make Stalkers spawn in patrols.

In short, make the bugs actually feel like an unstoppable tide that takes all the firepower in the world to turn.
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>>496838597
when china lake pumpy GL primary, crossbows are for Genoese faggots
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>>496838629
just do it on d10 like I do but if you are shit and try to evac I will kill you
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>>496838673
Did a solo 10 with it.

Has its downsides, like red warriors chasing your ass are actually kind of a problem, but if you have anything in existence that CCs shit. It's a non issue.

Feels like I'm just shooting impacts at everything I see. Kinda silly. OP? probably not.
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Is it just me or are chinese players always terribly bad at the game? Every time I join a game with 0 reinforcements left, there are one or more chinese players
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>>496833501
why do you want to make bugs easier
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>>496811476
Here you go, one final edit just for you.
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>youtubers constantly shit on Knight
>one guy finally puts out full mission gameplay using it
>he sucks at using it to an infuriating degree
>on a dream Knight seed
I'm kind of happy because these are the people who sway opinion on game balance, so high skill ceiling weapons get buffed when popular YouTube man says gun bad.
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>>496836908
plenty of times i went across the map to collect dropped samples within 2mins of evac
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>he didn't collect the samples in D10
That's a kick + public humiliation post with name and stats drop on 4chen
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>>496840334
tranny are you ok?
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>>496840434
here's me with the special jump pack
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>>496840434
You are the only tranny here. Or the closest thing to it.
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>he didn't collect all the samples in the D10 lobby after being capped for months
That's it. Humiliation post on /hdg/.
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>>496838654
how mad r u lmao
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>>496838654
i might be a phoneposter but I do not wish to be female
doesn't make you less of a retard though
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>subhuman nigger didn't collect all the samples in D10 after being capped
that's a roundhouse kick into the sun
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>drops samples into volcanic vent
nothin personnel
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destroyer radios on
you've heard this one somewhere years ago
https://youtube.com/watch?v=z-16DxhVYp4
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(You) are a slave and your job is to collect my samples for me. just like the good old days in colonial america.
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LOL I TAKE LE CLUSTER BOMBS AND DROP IT ON MY TEAM XD!!! XD!!! XD!!
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>>496841837
This except on me.
And by cluster bomb I mean resupplies
And by resupplies I mean I take them all THEY'RE ALL FUCKING MINE
STAY AWAY FROM MY RESUPPLIES, FAGGOTS
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Picking up samples and immediately dropping them, littering the minimap with sample icons.
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>>496786271
never died to them but this week I died twice to booba plants
no idea wtf they did to them, they suddenly got deadly
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>>496768683
I have not been flinched one single time in D10
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>>496764784
we don't need more retard friendly features on already great weapons
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>gets tilted and kicks you for exploding them with a crossbow when you meant to stim but accidentally fucked it up
some people are so sensitive
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>>496841837
Catch
>Throws Napalm at you
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>>496841837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A
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I toss out my orbitals without much of a care, I just expect people to not walk directly into them, unless they want to die. I also always ping them or even message in chat when I toss them out, if they are too close.

I always take someone's resupply if they die or if they are too far away, since they either don't need it or can't take it, and me being full means I can do more.

I 60% of the times call the resupplies at my position, since it's good to call them off cooldown everywhere.

I always stim at full health just for stamina regen if I need to keep on running (the stim that could have saved you, was used to give me movement).

I bet my reasonable, logical and rational decisions make people seethe.

I bet newfags will unironically point out or think "reddit spacing".
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>>496843551
reddit spacing
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>>496843551
these are all fine. i dont understand why people ever get mad at teammates in this game. as long as we at complete the mission i dont care if everyone dies at extract because it literally doesnt matter. ive never kicked anybody for any reason other than intentional teamkilling and i never will.
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>>496843551
>I toss out my orbitals without much of a care
this is hostile behaviour btw, it is not reasonable to expect other people to do YOUR positioning FOR you
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>>496843956
because when teammates mistreat you then they aren't teammates any longer
you have to be less selfish and respect the people you are playing with
otherwise you are shitting in their mouth
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>>496843551
>reddit spacing
and no, your decisions seem reasonable and logical, to be qhwyfam
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>>496844069
how is anything that anon mentioned considered mistreatment or disrespectful
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>>496840326
being high skill doesn't make it good
this is a casual game, you shouldn't have to train recoil control to use a weapon
if a weapon has firerate advantage, it should be easily manageable
the uzi nerf was justified because it's a secondary, but not-p90 should not have recoil this high, it doesn't make sense either from game or realism perspective
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>>496840326
youtubers also say that the lib concussive is the single best weapon in the game and the HMG is the single worst support weapon in the game
why do you expect intelligence from people whose only drive is to make money from ads, and don't care about the game?
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>>496843551
>t. chink
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>blue stratagem backpack
>porcupine quills explode in 360 degrees of fuckoff whenever something melees you
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>>496840859
>>496840606
>>496840530
tranny...ARE YOU OK?!?
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>>496843551
>orbs
this is fine so long as you don't throw it at people
>resup
this is fine so long as their weapon is mostly full
>resup x2
this is fine so long as you're with at least 1 team member
>stim
this is fine nobody expects you to stim them
>redditspacing
AIEEEEEEE NOOOOO STOP AAHHHHH STOP AIEIEEEEEE
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>>496843551
yeah kill you then kick everyone who tries to call you back, so you either are forced to leave the game with no goodies or sit in timeout like the little bitch you are
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>>496844739
>>496840606
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>still this mad because people called him womanly
KEK
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>>496845024
tranny you are not ok?
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>>496843371
Me and my friend do this all the time.
It's become a running joke to say "napalm" quietly and just wait.
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>>496844549
Lib conc is pretty satisfying to use.
That's the weird thing about this game. All the guns feel great, like amazing gun feel.
Just weapon balance is all over the place.
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>light armour, padded or servo
>blitzer + laser drone
>flame eagle + barrage
holy fuck this is FUN on boogs, GOD DAMN
I was scared at first, but throw range is such a QoL, anons weren't kidding they can't go back lol
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>Joel is so scared we might fuck up the MO he's not even attacking key planets for 6 DAYS
He has zero faith left in bugdivers.
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>>496845725
as he should
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>>496845725
more like it's pointless to attack them now
he will stall by bumping regeneration rate when planets are close to liberation, then attack the planet 36 hours before MO ends to fuck you over
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>>496845251
Tranny you got so worked up you're now too bitch made to even @ me lmao. You are for surely not ok.
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>>496762635
>>496763497
lmao what
recently I've been taking it to bots and it obliterates gunships, hulks and devs
I guess I'm just that good lel
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>>496846006
You stopped making split threads because you were scared anons wouldn't like you and wouldn't let you into their platoons lmao you saw them shitting on you hard. You need them much more than they need you.
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why are there gunship patrols on missions that don't have gunship fabricators or the gunship patrol modifier
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>>496846134
>literal insane schizophrenic fantasy
its good to know I have been in your head rent free for weeks while I literally go and fuck women in Europe lmaooooo. Tranny you really need to get a grip on life, shit like this is beyond pathetic.
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Do any of you wonder if stalker patrols are gonna make a comeback in the higher difficulties? We used to have them in HD1, and I was just thinking that the only way to make the game harder is to increase elite units by now, but I think facing only alpha commanders and having shriekers/stalkers be default patrols would be kind of boring too.
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>>496847084
I wish they do
I want Stalkers up my ass, so to speak
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>>496847084
I'd doubt it. Stalker AI is already programmed to just walk directly towards you and always know where you are. Patrols wouldn't really work for them. The "roaming stalkers" map modifier would be a decent addition to high diff.
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>>496846212
be glad.
gunship patrols actually take up 3 regular patrols worth of credits
for every gunship that spawns, you get 10 less devastators.
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>>496847084
We need fart charger patrols, just a giant stinky fog cloud wandering the battlefield
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>>496847084
Doubt, they're too lethal of a unit for roaming patrols, what they could do is add a non invisible, different colored stalker variant that rushes you when you're detected
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>>496847084
Stalkers were a joke in the first game, you would just melee them
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>>496847084
Stalker patrols wouldn't do anything unless they actively seek you out.
But patrols can't do that.
Also Stalkers in general are neutered by shotguns.
You could spawn 300 Stalkers in front of me, I wouldn't flinch for a second and take them all out just with a Cookout.

I think the only way to make the game hard for bugs at this point is to add a Spore Charger + Impaler combo to every patrol and make all the other units alpha commanders and hunters and also spawn a patrol of 20 shriekers behind you when you get ingaged by the Spore Charger, but that's extremely artificial and unfun.
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>>496847828
>actively seek you out.
>But patrols can't do that.
wrong on so many levels
they absolutely can
activating certain secondary ovjective terminals SPAWN a patrol headed to that terminal exactly
and periodically patrols are pinged to your location.
try it out, go hide in a random crevice and after like 5-10 minutes a patrol will find you
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>>496847828
>But patrols can't do that.
They kinda do indirectly
Patrol spawns, starts moving. If it moves away from you, it despawns. If it moves towards you, it stays. Because of this all patrols magically go after you.
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>>496847084
Bugs need more mid-tier enemies for sure that arent just bullet sponges.
Having a non-mutated alpha "hunter" that is just a stalker that cant go invisible would be a good start.
Same behavior as stalkers but doesn't disengage to regen and tries to jump smack you like hunters, same total health/armor as stalkers.
Same tier as alpha commanders where the game rolls to spawn an alpha commander or alpha hunter.
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>>496840326
Are you talking about ohdough randomizer video? Seemed pretty competent with it, this shit could kill ~8 bugs before needing to reload lmao
You sound like a coping contrarian desu, some weapons are just dogshit and you're allowed to like them, it's fine
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>>496843551
>first point of a weebshitter's post is literally "I'm throwing shit like a toddler, it's YOUR fault if you die"
Didn't read + ur a retard lmao
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>>496848159
>grappling tongue
Now that would actually be a death sentence every time even if it didn't ragdoll you.
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thoughts?
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>>496848159
I'd like more specialized roles in bugs in general, at least for higher difficulties.
Things that aren't just more HP blobs with armor, have the gas from Bile Spewers actually disorient your aim and movement a little like our gas, Fire Shriekers that spew fucking fire on the ground to try to break your movement, a small swarm of antsized bugs (modelled in game as a single entity of a flowing disk on the ground) that slowly climbs on top of your helldiver and force you to jump to safety (but is super weak to anything AOE like a single impact grenade, etc), I don't fucking know, I just need things to go CUHRAZEE in complexity.
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>>496848864
What about bugs that can shoot you, like hydralisks or something
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>>496846317
You need them a lot more than they nerd you.
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>>496848914
Nah, I'm okay with leaving the faction identity of "shoots at you" to the bots while we have "runs after you" in bugs.
Although bots do have berserkers, I think bugs are OK with spewers shooting with indirect fire / spewing bile.
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>>496846212
You can check the modifiers on the mission select screen before you launch in, sometimes those modifiers aren't listed mid-mission when you bring up the minimap.
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>>496847990
>try it out, go hide in a random crevice and after like 5-10 minutes a patrol will find you
I've done that when waiting at extraction, hiding behind buildings in the most hidden places possible. Damn troopers will always zero in on my position and start something.
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Thinking of zerg, I'm surpised we don't have something like banelings yet. Some mutated hunter that jumps at you and explodes. I mean we already have one-shot bile everywhere, might as well have kamikaze bile hunters.
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>>496848816
You're missing the new brapthrower. And the arc thrower.
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>>496848816
>not the gasthrower for Hitler
You had ONE (1) JOB
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Alright sisters how the FUCK do I dodge bile spewers spit or is it just guaranteed damage
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>>496849403
Step 1 : pick crossbow
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>>496849403
Dive away within 0.3s, otherwise it's ogre
It's much easier to kill or at least stagger them
Spewer damage is no joke in this patch lmao
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>>496849403
You can't, wear explosive resist armor.
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>audio fix
>now you can hear shriekers swooping down on you
Neat
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>>496849403
run to to the side, don't dive
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>>496848816
this image was created by someone who plays exclusively d7 bugs
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>>496849403
you don't, you stagger them out of spitting and kill them before they can do it, make sure you have a med pen or explosive weapon
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>>496849403
Either short burst with the MG, three or so rounds of your DCS, single crossbow bolt to the face, or some other variation of kill it before it kills you.
Less optimal is to run at it and dive diagonally towards and to the side of it before it starts spewing. Closer you are the easier it is to get beyond its max turn angle.
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>>496849131
extraction is different.
when it is available (doesn't have to be started) and a player is within its area, ALL NEARBY PATROLS will be directed to the extraction beacon immediately
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>bile spitter ptoo's at me
>flies right past my head
>hit, slowed, DoT applied anyway
I hate these little green fucks. I hope the next warbond includes a pair of big leather boots so I can stomp them into paste.
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>>496849623
Nursing spewers were always scarier for me cause they'd move in FAST and kill you instantly with their spit. I wouldn't even have to dodge bile spewer spit before, it'd just tickle. But those orange bastards? No way.
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>>496774617
>we´ll get to wipe them off the face of the fucking galaxy
For 3 days*
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>>496849403
As a rule of thumb, you FUCKING DON'T let them come close enough to spit on you.
Explosive xbow, Eruptor, Diligence, GL, AC, fucking airstrike them if you need to
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>>496849403
JUMP PACK
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>they don't know that AMR 1-shots the green spewers
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>>496838517
He clearly had no time to react, this looks like a jumpscare.
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>>496850065
AMR one-shots anything smaller than a charger and it's fantastic.
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>"This classic armor set is recognized by every citizen: worn by the heroic Helldivers who battled and forever defeated the Terminids, Cyborgs, and Illuminate in the First Galactic War."
Kino is back. Definitely are the free rewards being given on Liberty Day along with the leaked constitution rifle
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>>496850109
>reaction time measures in eons
is why you play pve games?
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>>496838517
NTA but you're a genuine golem lol
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>>496850150
i certainly don't hate it
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>>496850184
>ESL lashes out in pain
your insecurities are showing SIR
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>>496850345
benchod you do the needful of diving and situation has been resolved
why aren't you doing this?
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>>496850305
seeing the two yellows side by side is painful...they really thought this neon piss would be iconic, they should've just used what they already had
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>>496850150
>Definitely are the free rewards being given on Liberty Day along with the leaked constitution rifle
Wow, anon still has hope.
I'm pretty sure AH will give us the first time limited warbond.
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>>496850305
LIBERTY FOR ALL
I was just playing a bit of the first one earlier today, I 100% miss the Stratagem Priority booster and stacking multiple of the same stratagems.
Just absolute mayhem calling infinite strafing runs.
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>>496850436
i like the neon piss yellow more, reminds me of 925 shame it crashed lmoa
the right one is almost orange but it might just be the lighting
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I miss gambitposting
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D10, lobby decides.
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>stratagem launcher is still alive
fucking A
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>>496850740
>game refuses to launch
nice
verifying
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>>496850740
Full.
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>>496850846
this was datamined months ago and still isn't in
at this point I'm convinced it's been held up by the final mech and changes to the ship to allow for a mech bay visual upgrade
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>>496851027
I'm pretty sure AH just can't get it to work without breaking the mechs completly
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>>496850454
They did the same shit with Liberty day in HD1. This isn't some stupid cope
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>>496849403
Diving is a double edged blade.
If you do it correctly it'll mess up the spewers tracking, if you mess it up you'll eat the spew load.
Also if you dive onto a pebble and ragdoll from hitting the floor its 99% of the time a death sentence.
Best way to avoid it is to sprint sideways circling away from the spewer. Easier with light or medium armor.
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hey hdg
this you?
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>>496850150
Is this real
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AAAAAAAH JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING SQUIDS ALREADY
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>>496851460
that's a tranny
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>>496851582
100%
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>>496851460
I've got social phobia and I regularly play public matches without ever saying a word. Call outs and map markers are more than enough. The most I have to say is "gg" at the end or "bunker" when I find one.
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>>496848223
>this shit could kill ~8 bugs before needing to reload
That's the thing. It kills 20 easily in one mag. It should do ~8 in half a mag when shit's directly on top of you, and it does it in a second.
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>>496851830
whyd anyone use the knight when lib carbine exists and does what knight does but better
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>>496851830
>it kills 20 easily in one mag
scavengers maybe lmao
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>>496852019
whyd anyone use the lib carbine when the normal lib exists and does what lib carbine does but better
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>>496851460
>please buff solo play for us who cannot play other way
Why does everyone feel this absolute necessity to play at the highest difficulty of everything if they're just unable to? Is this an ego thing? Aren't they having fun at the difficulty that they're most challenged already?
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MASTIA IS UNDER ATTACK
THIS IS A RED ALERT, THE LOGISTICS HUB ON TARSH AND THE STATION ON GAELLIVARE ARE NOW IN DANGER!
REPEAT, THIS IS A RED ALERT!
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>>496852362
Not my problem
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>>496852163
Mixed with hunters, sure. Hunters should hardly even be a thought to you with the Knight.
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>>496852362
Just drop some red stratagems from orbit and it will go away.
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>>496852362
I don't give a shit about your rigged shit Joel
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>>496852362
sure just let me finish this shelt liberation real quick
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>>496852209
all niggers feel entitled to the most rewards.
Vermintide 2 didn't have this problem.
casuls abhorred and avoided Cataclysm for 2 reasons;
>paywall
>no extra reward compared to legend.
it was the perfect design choice of separating sweats from casuals.
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>>496852362
Liberated Shelt then the attack will end, two bird with one stone.
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>>496852362
I'm not leaving shelt
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>>496852727
good, that's what you're meant to do
it's an IQ test
if you liberate shelt, the attack will void
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It feels so nice finding an Arc, AMR or MMG on a poi when you chose a nosupp weapon loadout.
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>>496852727
*raises shelt resistance to 3%*
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new poll on the trooncord
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>>496853549
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>>496852209
Its an autism issue. He could play withoit saying a word. Hell, I've played for 350+hrs and I've only heard someone talk like thrice.
Also, why buy a co-op game if you dont want to co-op? Only a retard buys a mini cooper then complains he wanted a car with more horsepower pls fix. The again, it might be an autism issue.
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>>496853431
Or just attack Turing right now.
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>>496853063
yeah, what's no so nice is finding a RR or autocannon, with no matching backpack anywhere to be found
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>>496853625
>bit too much
>awful vs bots
only good answers.
Post results too
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>>496853736
>>496853625
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>>496853625
>Hulks (and by extension heavy turrets in fortresses) no longer ragdoll
>armored strider rockets are either a lot slower, a lot more telegraphed, or no longer super-stagger / one hit kills you.
There, I fixed your game for free Alexus, can you give me your month's salary?
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>bot desert sandstorm kino
>intense heat AND extreme cold
didn't even know those could go together neat
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>>496853625
Remove ragdolling after diving.
Also remove the forced standing up after ragdolling, nothing more frustrating than dramatically diving into cover, ragdolling because you hit a pebble and standing up right out of cover in front of sixty heavy devs
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>>496853804
it's heat during daytime and cold during nighttime
it's not rocket science
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>>496853783
glad to see the community isn't retarded
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>>496853804
its a recent addition, during the night you get extreme cold
they also did the same in fire tornado planets, with the extreme heat only triggering when fire tornados happen
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>>496853804
Recent change to desert planets to reflect how actual deserts behave.
Now kneel to Swedes
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>>496853783
Do people really have that much of an issue with getting ragdolled?
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>>496852362
FUCK YOU SHELT DIES FIRST
I WILL NOT LET THIS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL HELLHOLE STAND
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>>496854075
It's only bots really, other than that, what infuriates me more is when you randomly trip over a pebble or some shit when diving.
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>>496853783
>only 3% of whiny retards
Pleasantly surprised
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>>496854284
Impaler are harmless these day.
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I swear if the community had their way, nothing would ever pose a threat to the player, just mindless shooting
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>>496854075
>make a play and dive out of the harm's way
>slope is slightly too steep or there's a tiny stone in the way
>dude ragdolls in place and struggles to stand up
>something walks in and 2-taps your ass while you're watching
Why wouldn't you lmao
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>>496854469
Peole just started paying more attention to the dust that comes out of hte ground where the tentacle will show up.
Any other impaler kill is negligence.
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>>496854762
Skill issue honestly that hasn't happened to me in ages
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>>496854338
>check out one of the guys who voted for total removal of ragdolls
>he's arguing against about eruptor's airburst shrapnel removal
>with a tranny who claims the shrapnel barely did any damage
sure is discocord
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>>496849403
You leap in any direction, even leaping away from them works
The problem with increased DPS from bile spewers and hulks is that you get damaged before that spray is rendered on your screen because of lag
So you need to leap when you see them prepare for attack / expect the attack, not when you are covered in green goo. Leap preemptively and immediately start running in the same direction. They will attack the place you were at before leaping, and slowly adjust the angle, but you will outrun the spray.
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>Shelt resistance has dropped to 0.5%
We're doing it, botbros!
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>>496855210
put in fucking place lmao
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>>496854748
This games lives this superposition of being engaging and requiring skill, but also of being seen as a party game. Which I don't blame the developers for, because it actually is a great party game, and has the just right themes and mood for it, it's just that these are highly clashing points of view.
This isn't a new issue in the medium anyway, it's what Richard Garfield heavily touches on one of his lectures, "Luck in Games", so the developers will always face this issue as long as they posit themselves in this middle-ground where they try to satisfy everyone.
Given how much money HD2 makes being more casual friendly however, and further reinforced by the recent success of the most recent patch, it's likely they will go more and more into the party game territory.
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>>496855089
>I'm being contrarian just for the sake of it
Thanks for letting me know I guess
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>before the big buff patch mission success rate was at about 90%
>patch happens and turns the game super easy
>success rate is now at 81%
What's happening?
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>>496855339
What a fucking retard lmao
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>>496855404
>tourists and returnees come back hearing all about the buffs
>completely unprepared try to eat more than they can chew
>get fucked promptly
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>>496855404
more players going into higher difficulties and getting BTFO even with all the enemy nerfs. The majority of playerbase probably still lives in D6
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>>496855404
Two things.
1. A ton of shitters came back lowering the success rate.
2. I dont KNOW if this is true but there seems to be some sort of dynamic difficulty in the game. You delete 8 patrols of devastators together in 2 seconds each? You get more spawns.
If you take 30 seconds per. You get fewer.
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>>496855404
Game is actually harder now,but brain-damaged discord doom drones can't grasp that lol + lmao
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>>496853846
Who are you talking to
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>>496855626
>You delete 8 patrols of devastators together in 2 seconds each? You get more spawns.
It's not dynamic difficulty it's just how it works
Game spawns shit until it hits the cap on units. You kill units, free slots, game spawns more units
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The defense for Mastia actually looks decently doable. But then again, just keeping on hammering at Shelt will immediately end that attack anyways.
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>>496855941
So wait, it is potentially benefitial to not kil the whole patrol but leave a few straglers behind? Leaving a patrol slot closed unless one more is "crippled" to free up enough unit slots to create a replacement patrol out of 2 crippled ones?
That kinda would explain why at times it seems like you are getting nonstop patrols then sometimes you feel like playing diff5 or 4.
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>>496855404
1. People believe they can handle D10 now and get their asses handed to them
2. Bugdivers went to the bot front for the MO and got humbled
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>you will never have a tomboy viper commando diver gf to spot for
Bros, I dont know if I can keep going.
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>>496856117
Judging by the increasing player count on Mastia, this just confirms how utterly retarded the avarage player is
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>>496856349
the patrols spawn based on "enemies in combat"
this number is one of the coefficients in patrols spawn rate.
there are no slots.
if you run away from an enemy and disengage, it will despawn IMMEDIATELY, then a new patrol is created when the amount of engaged enemies drops below the threshold.
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>>496855096
sounds exactly like one or some of the faggots in here
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>>496856434
>1. [headcanon]
>2. [headcanon]
cool
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>>496856843
Sounds like Alexus.
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>>496856434
>2. Bugdivers went to the bot front for the MO and got humbled
To be H coming from bugdiving to botdiving is so relaxing.
You can just sit behind a rock firing RR's at everything. Very chill time.

Plus you can just pop those redskullfags to prevent botdrops.
A great change of pace compared to bugs where everyone and their whore mother can call in the breach.
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>>496856558
Maybe arrowhead should explain how this shit works in game instead of relying on their players to spread info from their discord to other social medias. Not that any of this matters, what's Joel gonna do, destroy the DSS? Lmao
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>>496853783
the answer is objectively "fine if less for striders hulks and fortresses" with the caveat that whoever made it so diving on uneven terrain ragdolls you should be broken at the wheel
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>>496854075
No one likes having the control of their character taken away from. It's the same reason everyone hates stuns in pvp games. Getting pinball'd around by bots is annoying as fuck especially since half the time there was literally nothing you could do to avoid it.
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>>496857118
Fuck, they could make a Brasch Tactics and a loading Tip, that explains that planets that are under attack have an "attacking planet" and that capturing the "attacking planet" will severely cull if not outright stop the attack.
But why do that if you have a discord circlejerk that just suck you off and don't really care about mechanics or gameplay.
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>>496857118
I don't think people need an explanation on how capturing the planet where an attack is coming from completely stops the attack.
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>>496832835
It's 5am and I just woke up
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>>496857468
Ever since I first read this
>No one likes having the control of their character taken away from
Ever since I first heard this in balance notes on Overwatch, I'm convinced it must be some massive psyop started out by some retard in just the same way a massive psyop led to HD2's current crazy balance swinging.
Casuals and the community in general has no idea what they want, then they hear something that seems vaguely annoying without a specific reason, so that all of the following times it happens they actually start getting annoyed for it and it becomes true. Getting ragdolled, stunned, slowed, or whatever only feels "unfun" because you were taught and fully believe it's unfun. It's all just different states of losing, kind of like a setback.
Repeating this
>No one likes having the control of their character taken away from
like a shitty mantra only reinforces this in your mind instead of helping you adjust and improving yourself. It's exactly like the
>You must never nerf anything in a PVE game
mantra, it's just absolutely retarded.
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>>496857583
Because more often than not its not worth attacking the source of the invasion, just look at this one, it took us having the planet 80% captured to us to have a chance to actualy be able to stop the attack on time
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>>496857468
CC in PvP games says hi to retards that say stupid shit like that.
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Sometimes I wonder if this playerbase even likes the game they're playing
Besides allowing you to stim before you get up (which would be grea, or letting you choose when to get upt) how the fuck do you change ragdolling without completely neutering it?
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>>496857468
>It's the same reason everyone hates stuns in pvp games
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>>496858080
Only 3% are show here to apparently not like the game (with an extra 11% as an rng margin), so the ratio seems favourable.
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>>496858080
Simple, reduce the forces and downtime when you get ragdolled. Instead of getting launched 10 meters and losing control of your character for 3 seconds, launch them 6 meters and get up after 2 seconds.
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>>496856349
I don't know the arbitrary rules by which enemies despawn. Sometimes they despawn when player they're aggroed to dies. Sometimes they despawn when you disengage (or don't engage at all and go away). And sometimes they just won't despawn at all and you get diff 5 experience while hordes are stuck behind some mountain, often happens with extractions in the corner of the map.
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>>496858264
Getting launched 10 meters is funny as fuck and will never lose you a mission you weren't already going to lose.
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>>496858080
>faster recovery
>default to prone (change stance in settings)
>stop making the strongest enemies chain ragdoll you so you can't fight back
>stop making us ragdoll because there's a 10mm "drop" flatness
>stop ragdolling through cover
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>>496857468
never understood this mentallity of 'stuns bad', this shit ruined games like Overwatch. Retards only ever played glass cannons/healers and would just spout the 'stuns bad' mantra because it was a mechanic their retard character pool didn't have access to.
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>>496858009
That's cause J.O.E.L. needs to be sat baside Alexus and also fed a nice helping of Surstomming to undestand that excessive modifier alterations for seemingly no reason and amount of succ operations rather than player participation is way too unintuitive to allow people to make plans or decide which planets to attack.
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>>496857754
People need an explanation of "attack coming from somewhere"
Especially since it wasn't even intended mechanic from the start and was adopted after the first le gambit
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>>496858080
Reduce/rework impact damage, its by far the most inconsistent shit we have yet, you can fall off a tower and take 10% damage or a small hop and take 50% damage
remove the barrager rockets from rocket striders, give them a rack of devastator rockets instead
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If you use the jetpack and/or the arc thrower I'm just gonna assume that you have braindamage
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>>496858480
>trying to torture a swede with surströmming
not gonna work, they eat that shit for fun
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hdg trying to be contrarian about ragolling is funny since every time i join a lobby you fags are seething about ragdolling
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>>496858080
>remove ragdolling when diving on flat surfaces
>no forced get up animation
>striders rocket blast don't ragdoll you through cover
There you go. Bunker/hulk turrets are debatable, I don't think a laser should ragdoll you if it doesn't hit you directly
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>>496858656
i seethe about ragdolling every single time i get hit by a robot chicken or barrager tank.
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>>496858671
if a lazer has enough energy to ragdoll you it should burn you to death on the spot
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>>496858671
The problem is always that there's not much you can do to individually prevent the ragdoll in this case, they might aim at you 10 times and hit you first shot only once out of those, but it never feels good because as a player you had no input whether his shot would hit or not.
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>>496858625
Fine, bring out the British Cuisine.
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Bros! We must go for the Shelt gambit!
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>>496857964
>>496858205
>>496858351
>stuns in competitive PvP is the same as random ragdolls in PvE coop
I knew people were retarded, but you contrarian drones are beyond the scale holy fuck LMAO
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>>496858671
>Bunker/hulk turrets are debatable
They should remove that turret from standard hulks, their regular gun is already lethal as is with its improved rate of fire, give them instead to the Obliterator variant you see in that one mission and make them the Behemoth charger of the bots
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>>496859050
>It's the same reason everyone hates stuns in pvp games.
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>>496858625
>the swineserb gambit
trust in the surströmming
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>>496858858
Anon please, no warcrimes in this christian thread
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>>496859081
Yeah, but it's not a pvp game genius lol
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>>496859050
>he holds an actual opinion, therefore he's just a contrarian
You believe having less ragdolls will mean you're more in control, but in actuality it just means they should make those things kill you faster to compensate and now the time you're spending lightly ragdolled is just you getting respawned.
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>>496859116
oh its joel, i'm just too used to wanting the serb tortured in various ways
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literally just decrease blast strength/radius on reinforced strider. that's it. if you struggle with other ragdollers then that's a skill issue.
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>>496859247
>they should make those things kill you faster to compensate
fix one thing, immediately make everything else worse, actual swededrone responding in real time lol
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>>496847990
when a patrol is spawned it is set to walk over the exact spot you were when it spawned, so if you just sit still for 5 minutes of course it's going to look like patrols are homing in on you
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Are mines good yet?
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>>496859489
no, cooldown needs to be HALVED for them to be good
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>>496859489
>>496859515
Why can't they just make it a stock-based stratagem with no cooldown, that would be so much fucking better than this shit
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>>496859398
I'm just looking at this from a general perspective. If you remove one feature from an enemy's action, that is directly a nerf, but if you just nerf an enemy in a vacuum, a game just gets easier. Therefore, it should be compensated with something else otherwise you mess the fine balance in things.
Getting ragdolled/losing control is an important feature of the balance in this game, in particular with how strider rockets and artillery rockets push you out of cover and expose you to other bots. It's meant to be a punishment. It should just be less RNG.
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>>496859515
this
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>>496859489
good at killing players yes
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>>496859621
>It should just be less RNG.
Agreed.
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>>496855404
has to be just shitters 'cause pubs can still rape D10 no problem
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>>496859515
that or give them charges like Eagles
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>>496859621
this is nonsense because balance is fucked and bots are considerably harder than bugs
yes, if they tone down ragdolling on bots, bots will become easier, who could've guessed?
but they will still be harder than bugs
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>>496858858
also not gonna work, while jellied eels and the like are disgusting the rest of it is just bland similarly to swedish cuisine
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>>496859621
>in particular with how strider rockets and artillery rockets push you out of cover and expose you to other bots.
except what really happens is that it flings you at mach 20 against a rock and kills you, i can accept that bullshit from barrager tanks but not from the chicken walkers
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I am an eagle strafing run convert, this shit fucks
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>>496859862
I agree, it's non sense to keep talking about ragdolling in bots, the only thing truly unfun on bots is the RNG nature of it all, not that you get ragdolled in the first place.
Devastators will randomly decided to spray you like a CSGO pro from 50 meters, stationary turrets will randomly spot you from 200 meters away and then also randomly decide to one shot you (you can never really tell if their shot will hit or miss by their warning flash, it's entirely RNG if you jump or not. Only counterplay is getting to cover fast enough), same thing applies to hulk shots and things like that. At the end of it all, it's because you'll die to RNG even if you have perfect play (okay, not literally perfect, but you get the idea). Sometimes things will just shit on you and have you ragdoll in front of devies, or just (that doesn't happen with bugs, as a counter example).
>>496860052
And see, that's what would happen if we removed the ragdoll from the chicken rockets. Instead of sometimes pushing you out of cover, it would just most likely kill you instead (to leave it more consistent).
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>>496850740
GGs, full mech lance deployed.
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>>496860052
>>496860207
Adding onto this just before I got to work, I would like if chicken rockets just ended up a tad more predictable. Rocket devastators have to do that whole animation before starting to toss rockets into you, arty tanks aim up and then give you time to see the rockets raining down. Chicken legs will just randomly decide if they should ruin your day or do literally nothing with their rocket and you can't even tell which it's gonna be until it's too late.
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>can actually hear stalkers now
neato
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