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Riposted: >>496723957
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KINO
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I am fortifying this thread
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Chapter for this feel?
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>>496801868
If you want to lament true heroes of the Imperium, Lamenters.
If you want to roleplay as a retard reddit cuck, Black Templars.
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>>496801868
Chaos
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>>496801723
Parrying makes this game too easy but without it you're fucked. I wonder if they'll ever rework it to find a happy medium.
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>>496801723
I was standing on the central platform blasting plasma down on the left funnel where the nids cross the bridge, turn around to go over to where you are because there are always a hundred gaunts there at that part of the fight.

I was mildly confused why there were only a handful left and a Warrior you were busy making yell uncle.
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>>496802134
Add a 1% chance for you to randomly explode whenever you press the parry button
Done, game fixed!
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>>496801723
>Decimus saying "Time to gut this filth properly" right before you literally gut a gaunt jumping at you
Absolute cinema.
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>>496802261
I think making it less rewarding or making the perfect parry window even shorter would help. As it is you just push one button within a very generous frame window when you see a super telegraphed attack and get armor, free damage and push back the horde making it better than most attacks.
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A few days ago someone posted a screenshot that broke down all the 40k editions and how much Xeno got the focus and how we can blame chaos wank and primarch wank on the HH books.
Does anyone have this image?
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>>496802643
I'm really starting to warm up to the PvE six. They're all delighfully autistic in their own way. Except Valius, his autism is being autistically normie.
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>>496801868
Owlcat dev?
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>>496802134
My idea would be for block weapons to have the largest block window, and every enemy that hits you during your block gets auto-blocked + extends the window. And more speed and cleave in general.
Balanced would remain about the same
Fencing obviously has the largest parry window but I would make it have the shortest window overall.
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>>496802896
>Chaos wank and Primarch wank should be blamed on the HH books
Buddy, the Great Crusade was the Imperium genociding every xeno they could.
Any story that takes place in that era is going to be wanking the Imperium in some way.
HH was all about how half the Primarchs were seduced/got tricked/otherwise fell to turn traitor and take the side of the Chaos gods against the emperor. Of course it's going to be focusing on Chaos and Primarchs.
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I hope that in SM3 we start out fighting chaos (hordes of melee cultists and the occasional Word Bearer boss fight), and the mix-game twist villain reveal turns out to be xenos, like a Necron tomb world awakening or an Eldar płot being revealed.
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dumb question: does the heavy's iron halo ability block all ranged damage, including your own outgoing damage?
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>>496804034
no
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>>496804124
ok that makes it a lot more useful then
thanks anon
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>>496804034
Yes
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>>496804034
Both you and your team mates can shoot through it from behind.
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>>496801115
Same. Scythes of the Emperor are really growing on me too.
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>>496800278
The bumpy HH ones would be kino.
Need more chapter specific ones too, and chaos stuff for loyalists.
If they're never gonna mirror loyalist level functionality for chaos, they might as well just give chaos options that would've gone to chaos marines to loyalists instead.
At least let me slap on alpha legion scales.
AL's a gray area loyalty wise, and they already have some cosmetics assets for them in the game through the chaos sniper anyway.
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Do fencing weapons have any secondary properties aside from the longer parry window or are you better off switching to balanced for better stats once you get the parry timing down?
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>>496803308
As befitting of a Tactical.
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>>496805320
Jun is the best
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>>496805320
the secondary effect is that you become a scrub that cant parry without them
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924XM
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>>496804498
>AL's a gray area loyalty wise
Lolno. Not in a way that would let you use AL cosmetics on Loyalists. Not to mention Primaris game.
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>>496805320
Kurwa Marines chapter when?
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>>496805497
an hawk lord!
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>>496803308
Vespacius is my favorite. He genuinely hates the enemy much more than the others.
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>>496805776
raventwinks or white scats
name it
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>>496804498
Dev bullshit

The real reason is that Games Workshop doesn't want anyone to showcase Chaos until they themselves have finally refreshed and updated them

Giving the devs creative freedom over Chaos doodads and cosmetics would mean that Games Workshop have to abide by them or render them non-canon. Since Games Workshop has a 1-2 year production timeline they don't feel the need to cater to Chaos Space Marines when all they want are Primaris Ultramarines

You're telling me that slavs refuse to make skulls, horns, pointy things and other ghastly cosmetics when Relic did them 13 years ago?
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>>496806009
I really don't get it. Don't they need to sell chaos and xenos, too? What's the point of buying space marines if there's nobody to play against? GW is so fucking stupid.
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>>496804314
I'll read up on them even though their name fucking sucks.
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>>496805320
My problem is the parry is longer so its not just a question of your ability to time a parry, it also blocks more attacks overall meaning when three warrior nids attack in a staggered fashion youll get them all.

There just is no reason to ever touch balanced or blocking. The only exception is against chaos where mediums dont melee that often so you can dodge roll.
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>>496803923
Eldar arr a dead faction and nobody likes them. They'd be a massive mistake to put in any game.
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>>496806318
Yeah, I expected some real edgelord shit but surprisingly they're a wholesome (if tragic) bunch of dudes.
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>>496806252
Most 40k matches are marines vs marines or marines vs the current meta pick on the rare occasion it's not space marines. Why do you think Horus Heresy is so popular? People love having their specific marines with a few special flavor rules fighting other specific marines with a few different special flavor rules.
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>>496806252
Tournaments are dominated by Tyranids (Genestealer Cults) and Eldar

Between the two you have Spess Mehreens and Imperial Knights
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>>496806440
Not if you make them good looking women.
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Ruthless difficulty
Sub-optimal Auspex ('Parry applies Auspex' over 'More Damage/Smaller Radius')
Relic Stalker Bolt Rifle

This gun is worth it, trust me. Once you get that perk that refunds your ammo per hit to fix its garbage ammo economy, it's GOATed. I'd have shown the comical fucking damage I was doing to the Neurothrope after this bit, but I botched the save replay hotkey and instead hit start recording which prevents you saving content beforehand.
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>>496806531
It's usually marines vs marines or marines vs the current starter xenos.
IIRC the previous starter xenos was Necrons so there was a whole glut of Necron games played that outshined many other xenos several times over.
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I can't look at the fucking hellbrute. Not only is the hammer the stupidest looking melee option it's like the least TS unit. Why the fuck is it fleshy? What the fuck did you put in it? It should've been either an actual old school chaos dreadnought or one of the daemon engines.
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>>496801246
//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////

-Imperial Administratum has granted access to records of all Astartes CODENAME: ADEPTUS RETARDES operating in Decidious System.
-Dude Wall status: UNDER MAINTENANCE. Path to online Dude Wall: https://rentry.org/dudewallsm2g
-All Astartes are to upload a FULL SCREENSHOT of their Dude;
-Chapters comprising Dudes from older submissions that complete a set in high quality will be awarded a Purity Seal in recognition of their efforts to restore the Dude Wall;
-Low quality heretics are branded and shall remain so until they update their Dude.

A final update of the day, Brothers! And a brief one at that:
- Last thread's submissions have been added to the Wall (Alpha Legion has seen an influx of submissions - a surprising turn of events, but not an unwelcome one - keep them coming, Brothers).
- Brother Anon's request here >>496796545 has also been addressed;
- Knights Tenacious Homebrew Chapter now has its name correctly displayed; Brother Anon here has been most generous with submissions, which is fantastic. The Administratum agrees that three is the perfect number for HB Dudes!
- Website is updated alongside the image version of the Wall.

That will be all for today from me, Brothers! Thank you for all submissions. I hope there will be more to come.

Please, enjoy!

Signing off,
Dude Wall Anon

=IMPORTANT=
**Keep track of Dudes with red oultines. If you see your Dude marked this way, please post an updated FULL screenshot.**
**For more comprehensive info on submissions please refer to: https://rentry.org/dudewallsm2g **

Glory to the Imperium!

//// END TRANSMISSION ////
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>>496806706
>First Zoan just pops like a balloon
Holy shit lmao
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>>496807112
yeah that perk is BALANCED
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>>496802193
Glad I could help a lil' bit bro, had some work from home shenanigans to do which is why I had to go.
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>>496803881
the game has been telling me i just hit level 25 on every post game screen ever since i hit 24, it's weird
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easy
just ask gays workshop if x class works for y traitor legion
if yes implement it
if no keep them penciled in that class
all traitor legions should get tactical and heavy because they literally have models of them
undivided factions get all classes
some traitor legions don't get classes because it clashes with their lore (ie world eaters sniper/bulwark, death guard sniper/assault, thousand sons assault, night lords bulwark, etc)
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>>496807060
My Minotaur for the wall
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>>496807020
a fleshy dude
and a shitton of demons
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>>496806669
tournament play isn't really reflective of the popularity of sales though
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>>496807020
>It should've been either an actual old school chaos dreadnought
Yeah but GW doesn't make those models anymore even though they effectively are the same thing.
>A Daemon Engine
Like what, a Defiler?
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>>496807806
nah

keep it as is, less work to do, so they can concentrate on what actually matters: loyalist space marines and milking their fanbase with cosmetic dlc so they can pump out more operations
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>>496805497
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I have witnessed heretic magics most foul brothers.
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anybody notice the sniper kind of sounds like Janos Audron from Legacy of Kain (Rene Auberjonois)
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JUN9C
Come one toshi, come on
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>>496808457
>samefagging
aka Mr House from F:NV
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>>496807020
>Why the fuck is it fleshy?
because chaos
>What the fuck did you put in it?
the thousand sons kidnap other chaos marines to condemn to hell&brute torture
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>>496808436
I fail to see any issue here brother, thammer wielding is ever marines divine right given by the emperor himself.
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let me know when they rebalance las fusil so that if you stack all of the headshot damage and cloak damage boosts onto las fusil it one taps majoris
or they rebalance bolt sniper so it's a two tap
or they rebalance automatic bolters so they don't suck
or they add horde mode

otherwise I'm done with operations forever
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>>496808413
>mythological horus is a hawk
>anon is a hawk lord marine
pottery
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>>496807806
Even easier, just dump a bunch of cosmetics on them and let players customize them however they want, just like with loyalist marines. Every chapter can equip Ultramarine relic weaponry. Every marine can wear chaos legion icons on their pauldrons. There's a Black Templar on the Dude Wall wearing a Victrix Guard helm right now. Nobody cares--least of all Focus or GW--they're just throwing out a bunch of excuses as to why they only finished the customization system for one of the playable factions.

The real reason, of course, is because the competitive mode as a whole is unfinished. They barely made it playable in time for release, after canceling the open beta. I'd be okay with that if they just said so and put finishing chaos customization on the roadmap somewhere, but instead they just threw up a smokescreen of bullshit excuses and apparently have no plans to revisit it ever.
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>>496808603
>dat pic
We arr truly blessed to have such tasteful anons in this general.
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>>496806252
Marines vs Marines is the most abundant matchup on tabletop by an absurd margin, with Marines vs Chaos Marines being the only thing that remotely comes close.
Marines sell more than every xenos faction combined, anon. The only time xenos sales increase is when there's a new starter box and they're being sold alongside Marines. Video games honestly give an incorrect view of actual 40k demographics. Xenos don't matter at all, and them just being intro enemies to Chaos before getting tossed aside is absolutely where they belong. As another another said there's a reason Horus Heresy is so popular; there aren't any shitty xenos getting in the way.
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Honestly joytoy is kinda nailing all these new figures. I hope GW let's them make more than blue berries
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>>496806706
All the guns with 50% ammo regen are hugely effective i love em. On tact it guarantees infinite ammo.
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I can't wait for the volkite gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bu3ae-Xeww [Embed]
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>>496809129
To be fair, that is mostly GW's fault. They push SMs way more than any other faction in terms of marketing and content so xenos fall to the wayside. Also why xenos are often someone's 2nd or 3rd army.
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>>496807914
another minotaur for the based department
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>>496809129
I feel like a lot of that is just because marines are pushed the most. Like every new player paints a fucking ultrasmurf so they just stick with it.
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>>496809527
I have three, they're great, shield brother, custode and imperial guard artillery. Good quality and good mobility without breaking/warping. My only complaint is they are hugely expensive but its worth it if you're just keen on a couple.
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>>496809527
>making action figures for a franchise famously known for its miniatures
i don't understand how there is a market for this
they literally sell kits of dudes for you
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Outside of boss dps what is melta vanguard's true weakness
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>>496808697
You attempt to confuse me through your thinly veiled deceit to dissuade me from my believe that the heretic astartes have no hand in this mockery of balance!
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>>496809860
Some people just want a complete thing to display and not get into assembling and painting them.
It's two very different desires
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>>496809753
>>496809793
Marines are pushed because they're the most popular. GW legitimately doesn't need to advertise xenos, because the money xenos being in is inconsequential next to the Imperium via Marines. Hell GW has TRIED to push xenos in the past, but it never makes much difference. 90% of the time someone picks up xenos it's because there's a meta reason behind it.
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>>496808828
>>496808436
>>496805805
With every hawk lord I grow closer to understanding the truth Horus spoke of....I can feel the warp overtaking me...
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>>496809527
There's a lot more than Smurfs on their website
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>>496807060
Brother, am I reading it right that there is a 3 marine limit for HB chapters now?
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>>496810746
was for
>>496808413
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>>496810609
idk man i really like kroot, I have a bunch of the old finecast stuff and new releases were a godsend
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>>496809860
Are you autistic? I'm not interested in playing the tabletop and I have gunpla for my model building fix. For 40k I want a complete thing that I can just buy and display.
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>>496810146
'thropes
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>>496810923
I hate to tell you this anon but Kroot sold so badly that it's pretty much been confirmed already that Tau are getting shelved for an edition or two after 10th, and Kroot are likely not getting amother model ever again.
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>>496810146
Anything you can't get within pissing range of, usually the Zoanthropes and Neurothropes
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>>496807060
Add my flying smurf to the wall please
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Idk if there is a chapter with these colors already but I like it.
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>>496811523
Is that a hawk lord?
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>>496811523
Literally Hawk Lords, it's where you got the colors from.
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>>496810146
player skill
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>>496810746
Friendly banter and being unable to take it is how Heresy started in first place.
>>496811035
Tbh big scale Gundam-like models you can build and paint just so they look cool instead of playing with them would be great for Warhammer. Shame it's GW, so each 1:16 Marine would cost as much as a real sports car.
>>496811523
Cute Hawk Lord anon.
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>>496811809
>>496811819
>>496811972
But Hawk Lords are ALL purple.
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>>496810146
the anon known to me as "decinigger"
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>>496811375
>>496811251
He can go directly under their ass and blast the melta no
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As a heavy what the fuck do I do vs Bulwark? Magdump once they run into melee and pray?
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>>496812162
not all the time
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>>496811330
this could very well be true, but i personally bought 3 big boxes and will continue to build out my kroot
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>>496812163
with plas you can probably charge up and drop it right behind them?
else, nades
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>>496812162
Assuming they're in a spot where he can actually GET to them
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>>496811972
Let the thread Burn...
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>>496811523
Bro, you're not gonna believe this.
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>>496807060
Heavy Carcharodon (Heavy Plasma Incinerator type) reporting for the wall.
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>>496812158
>mindbroken and rent free in his head
that anon really got under your skin huh
>he will now accuse me of being his vanguard boogyman
you know it's grim when your npc behavior is so easily predicted
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>>496812334
even then you cant be under them all the time or you're going to eat shit
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>>496812656
How can Emperors Children and Hawk Lords get away with having the same colors?
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There are couple new shots from the Amazon's Secret Level in their new trailer. There's couple snapshots like Titus standing over something cut in half that bleeds bright blue blood and one longer scene where Titus rams into a car driven by... yeah, driven by what?
My first thought was Orks, but the figures were too small and lean for Orks, so cultists? But then an insane possibility came into my mind. Something so based that's literally impossible with modern Games Workshop.
DIGGANOBZ
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>>496812905
Because there are plenty of chapters with similar color schemes and emblems and even names. If everyone had to have completely unique chapters there’d be less variety.
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>>496812743
HE'S IN THESE THREADS I SWEAR!!
OUT OF NOWHERE HE KEEPS BRINGING UP MELTA HEAVIES THAT KEEP STEALING HIS FINISHERS AND STIMS

IS HE ALPHARIUS?????
HOW IS VANGUARD BETTER FOR TEAMPLAY AND DPS THAN HEAVY??????

I NEED TO KNOW!
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>Load in with multimelta
>Spam in every horde and refuse to let team execute
>grab every ammo drop
>grab every stim
>beeline for the relic
>refuses to do a single objective because that would affect his damage uptime, errands are for bitches
>refuses to kick the rock wall in inferno so he can get a headstart running ahead
>open mic and scream at the tact who doesn't use auspex at his every whim, you had only one job etc
>types 'you're welcome for the free carry :)' when the thunderhawk drops down to the platform
>go to sm2g and try to gaslight everyone that they're equally as meta as tactical and sniper
Reminder that all heavy players are chinese bugmen and deserved to be gassed.
Fuck all straban niggers.
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>>496806492
What the fuck they're actually mega based.
>Name is actually reasonable and honorable
>Heresy OGs with a Heresy-vet Chapter Master for a while
>Participated in some of the biggest wars
>Actually have a good reason to become Primaris.

I only wish they had a named CM
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>>496812946
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>>496813257
*basedpointing*
HE DID THE THING!
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>>496812946
No way well ever get diggas.
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>>496813398
meds
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Collared Ranked 18 MerryGate reporting for the wall!
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>>496813490
collared?
you sure this isnt Emperors Children?
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>>496801723
The synaptic shock is so satisfying. Chaos really needed a similar mechanic.
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64RQ6
I require 2 more missions to get the fancy wings regalia as Assault.
Come join me brothers!
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>>496812946
Maybe genestealers?
They can look near-human in their infiltration stages.
Also FUCK Epic for licensing out Unreal Tournament for a single-episode anthology show. It deserves an actual entry and investment. They tried to do their meme "Le Community development" and it predictably failed which let them wash their hands from the IP and get away with not making more games.
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>>496813634
NO I'M NOT A DEGENERATE LIKE THEM I PROMISE!
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>>496813459
>meds somehow required for making a 5 seconds post satirizing something
>meds not required for someone religiously posting the same stale shit thread after thread
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Y94FY
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>>496814440
Here's how a REAL assault handles a Hellbrute
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>>496814440
God Im fat, your thumbnail looks like you had a stack of cheeseburgers on your screen.
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>>496814224
COME BROTHERS!
WE HAVE DEPLOYED BUT NEED A THIRD
ASSAULT AND SNIPER.
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>>496814345
yet you get fall for it and triggered by the same exact shit all the time
not to mention the moment someone even whispers the word vanguard you lose your shit
ritualposting is cringe but you are the one shitting up the threads with your schizophrenia
all you had to do was to ignore it but instead you had to shit up the place
and everytime someone doesn't glaze you off you scream 'ITS DECINIGGER ITS ALPHARIUS SHOW SCREENSHOT'
cringe and pathetic honestly
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>>496814569
Difficulty?
I'm grinding with purple and green weapons and don't know if I can hack it in Relentless.
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>>496815008
Join anyways we'll carry
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>>496814952
needs a tact
assault is replacable 3rd, should play vanguard instead, better mobility
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>>496815008
You can, just parry.
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>>496815079
It's expired
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>>496814752
well yes
that's me
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>>496814440
is this supposed to be impressive

this just shows the power of auspex and plasma
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>>496814984
anon....you're wrong
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>>496815173
IMYW9
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>>496813445
But imagine how funny that would be, Titus turning bunch of Diggas into fine red paste. First interaction with 40k for normies watching it would be a white military man/knight killing double g word people that they'd think are racist black stereotypes when they're really Australian stereotypes.
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>>496814440
>sniper
>tact
is this supposed to be impressive
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>>496814984
You typed all that out to get angry at someone else over some shit you apparently are personally upset by lmao
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>Helbrute spawning on the broken elevator in the third Operation that's a mix of Nids and Chaos, with it specifically spawning while you're in the middle of a massive Chaos wave
Yep, this is without a doubt the hardest fight in the entire mode. Nothing else compares to this shit.

>The odd Cultist Sniper in the upper shaft that you always miss on the way down
>At least a dozen Thousand Son Marines
>Tzaangors fucking everywhere
>To maybe tear your asshole a little harder, it'll throw in a Lesser Sorcerer who will start reviving the TS marines you've killed while jabaiting you across the arena as the Helbrute sprints after you
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>>496815612
bonus points, he's complaining to the wrong guy
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>>496811035
>Are you autistic?
yes
it'd be like buying ready made gundam figurine
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TV4BV ruthless sniper taken
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>>496815736
hate to be the pedantic but max rubrics is 8 +1 termie
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>>496815287
It wasn't even Plasma. The big damage chunks was the Sniper offscreen, the Assault did maybe 5% total. Tactical is shooting it with a Bolter so I imagine he didn't do much either damage-wise but it's his Auspex that lets Sniper do stupid high damage. So it literally was just the "meta" squad of Sniper+Tactical.
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>all these damage control samefagging posts showing up suspiciously timed to coincide with cooldown
yeah sm2g thread quality has gone down the shitter these days
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>>496806706
>I botched the save replay hotkey and instead hit start recording which prevents you saving content beforehand
I hate Shadowplay.
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>>496815820
1 more
get in here
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>>496816027
so youre a schizo too, huh?
and no, i will not buy 4chan premium or whatever
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>>496816027
>these days
Digga it's been less than a month.
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>>496816150
literally no one here gives a fuck about your beef with vanguard faggot you fucking nigger
just stop shitting up the thread is that too much to ask
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What's the most warcrime feeling class and why is it the chainsword vanguard?
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>>496816456
Oh hey the (You) guy is back to shit the thread up. I remember you complaining about this back then, I guess crying about people disliking Primaris didn't pan out so (You) have to try and find new ways to kill the discussion in the general.
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>>496816027
lol
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>>496816456
the report function is there 4u
unless you believe there is nothing the mods/jannies would do about these posts
i'd recomend you let it rest, you becoming part of the "enshittening"
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>>496801723
Honestly, this game is lucky the combat loop is so fun, because if this were any other game, I'd have burned out and bailed a hundred hours ago. It's a skeletal system carried by its meaty interactive aspect. It is in desperate need of more Operations, more weapons, more PvP maps, more classes.

Darktide got a lot more shit for launching in a similar state, and I feel like that's only because Fatshark has a proven track record of putting out content at a pace measured in years.
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>>496816694
>Indians wake up
>Thread goes to shit at the same time every day like clockwork.
Sirs... please do not redeem the British Imperialist Sci-Fi...
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>Join in Progress Sub Inferno, at the Guardsmen codes part
>25 Tac and 14 Vanguard
>Tac is already dead, Vanguard is getting raped to death in a corner by a massive swarm
>Spawn in, clear them out, he dies in the middle of it
>Rest of run is them both going down over and over again
>Vanguard runs from anything more than three Gaunts, Tac is just getting butt blasted by everything
>Only ever see him use Auspex once, on accident
>We get swarmed at an elevator, getting pelted to death by Ranged Warriors
>Tac runs to the button, stands there, does nothing, leaves it
>Whatinthefuck.jpg
>The only thing keeping them alive is me staggering Warriors with my fucking Green Heavy Plas
>Get through it, pic related despite only being there half the mission

I finally have run into the people on Reddit who sob that the game is too hard and that they only have ten seconds every day to play after putting their wife's kid to bed. What's crazy is this dude was fucking level 25 and couldn't parry for shit, couldn't shit for shit, couldn't do anything for shit. And the Vanguard either was just in over his head or something but holy fuck
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>>496817196
>yuro's in bed
>amerimutts at work
yep its Pajeet time
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>>496817330
you dont understand, if they had a sniper, they'd have crushed that mission
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>>496817194
People also had huge expectations of Darktide because Fatshark overpromised on everything and after release the community manager was so shit at his job that it sent people ballistic. Shit he wrote back then is still memed to this day.
Remember weapon customization and one class per quarter? I remember.
As opposed to that I'm pretty sure everyone was expecting SM2 to be way worse than it ended up being, so it was a pleasant surprise.
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>>496817378
>Amerimutts at work
Where?
It's 5:00 on the West Coast.
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>>496817587
>looks at clock
fuck i'm off to wörk in 3 hours
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>>496817568
What the fuck is with Swedes and some other retarded companies hiring "Community Managers", aka fucking retards with no skills or talent, to spew garbage all over their social media, lie, and generally make un-verified statements. It has literally never once worked in their favor.
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>>496817568
>tfw you realize Fatshark released the game without weapon crafting and took two years to implement a working system
I don't count the shitty placeholder we had as a working system because it wasn't. It's insane people had to spend hundreds if not thousands of missions worth in resources to get decent weapons, to the point most people used a bot or a macro to do this.
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I hate the fucking grenades
I fucking hate them
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>>496817973
you have to put the diversity hire with strong social opinions somewhere, and they literaly have no skills
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>>496818084
tell me anon, where did the sniper stick the Krak granade?
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3ZIHE
COME KILL SOME NIDDERS ON RUTHLESS BROTHERS!
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>>496817973
It's immeasurably complex, please understand. But the short explanation is that they're treated as actual manager-level employees, not unpaid interns like everywhere else, so they all inevitably end up huffing their own farts and thinking they matter for making a game, and the field of "professional community management" attracts the most delusional narcissists possible in the first place.
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>>496818274
Not those. I luv me kraks.
I meant the nid floating mines.
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>>496818467
they are called sentries
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>>496817330
>Load into t3 inferno as lvl 10 assault
>Team is two lvl1 tac and vanguard
>"Okay this is going to be interesting", I think
>Goes rough but well for a while
>The two shitstains rush after the bomb loading section and die
>Stuck with a lictor, a swarm, and the whole catalog of elites, like 10 of them, while the two dogshits can just spectate me.
>Solo the encounter because the two dipshits hide in a fucking corner after respawning
>They start pinging me like mad
>One of them writes something in some retard language that sounded like "HAWK TUAH" in my head
>Finally finish off the encounter after solid 3-4 minutes of non stop melee
>"You have been kicked from the game"

I would pay actual money to see how hard they got wiped at the end after being mad from getting mogged
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>>496818467
oh, yeah fuckem
although, shooting one and blasting half a horde of gaunts is that good feel

i hate the stranglethorn launchers more myself, desu
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>>496817568
I'm still waiting for the promised VM2 servers they had on roadmap like 4-5 years ago.
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>>496818679
>i hate the stranglethorn launchers more myself, desu
Hate those things. They should despawn when you kill the warrior who shot them. Or at least make the seed bigger so it's easier to see. Autistically shooting the ground to clear a room of thorns is a pain in the ass, it's not challenging, just annoying.
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>>496818882
>bee heavy
>stomp
>thorns gone
:)
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>Load into game
>Both snipers instalocked by retards who spend all game running off on their own and dying
What is it about sniping that attracts this kind of player?
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>>496819067
all the vids of snipers getting free kills and/or trolling
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>>496819067
Noob class
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>>496819067
textbook case of anime protagonist wannabe retards who are attracted to the coldsteel crit all or nothing playstyle while not understanding how to make it work
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AI2E6 ROOFLESS
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>>496819067
Sniper as a concept has always attracted shitters since the dawn of the first multiplayer FPS.
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>>496815779
Yea, they make those. Sometimes people just want something to display when they're in to it but not so in to it that they're gunna buy a full thing of minis that they need to build AND paint. Even gunpla you can just snap together without painting or panel lining.
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>PC player with crossplay on
>Level 1 running Average
>Fairly capable all things considered
>Known only to be playing PvP
>Probably picked the first random cool heraldry he saw with the 990 money he had from PvP
What are the chances
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>>496818882
>Be Plasma Incinerator Heavy
>Spaff my enormous blue balls into the general vicinity of the thorns without even aiming
>They nut and die
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>>496819813
The "Totally not a popular person that uses the fact that nerd things are now accepted to hit a new target market" name really adds onto the annoyance factor
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>>496809860
Some people want larger figures that they can stick on a shelf somewhere and display
I want to build minis because I want to learn to paint them and think it's cool, but I have a friend who went and bought a Tyranid hive tyrant and had someone assemble and paint it for him because he thought it looked sick but he had no interest in learning the wargame
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>>496807060
Doom Legion reporting for the wall brother.
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Tactical's "insta-gib any major or extreme scanned" talent is absurd, especially against chaos. Delete any terminator or sorcerer with a pistol and you can completely change the flow of a fight.
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>>496820034
>Unabashedly talks about deep lore shit on regular talk shows while everyone else laughs and snickers at him like he's a retard
Dude has been doing it for years, try to not be so bitter
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>>496819681
2/3
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>>496820215
I'm extremely hesitant to trust celebrities to not have an ulterior motive whenever they say they like/support something, being bitter is only a slight portion of it
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>>496820145
The problem is faggots in pub lobbies hold onto it like a potion in a JRPG.

>Oh but what if I need it for a mini-boss what if a Carnifex spawns in two seconds
Nigger there's five Chaos Marines and a Terminator right in front of you all grouped together this is literally the best time to use it, it's not gonna get worse.
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MAGAZINE OUT
MAGAZINE IN
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>>496820448
3+ majors and I drop it. Taking out a flamer rubric or a sniper warrior is still 100% worth it too. Those really fuck with the melee classes.
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>>496818026
>tfw by the time they fixed it I already got all the best gear by brute force and I no longer feel like playing
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>>496820409
Talkin' about Cavill? I think hes one you can trust. He apparently quit the Witcher series because the writers/producer/director wanted to do things that werent consistent with whats established in the game and books.
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YT4SJ
Join in for some quick xp we're halfway through decap
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Great game.
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>>496820965
I understand where you're coming from, but he runs a Custodes army. Even if you expand out to celebrities in general, if someone has enough of a brain to keep a pulse on internet discourse, they'd easily be able to spin a narrative to make them look amazing. Or I'm just an ass that likes to be hostile to others in order to justify being alone
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>>496820965
>Quit the Witcher over that
>Almost missed getting cast as Superman because he was raiding in WoW
>Funding a 40k series by himself because he doesn't trust women to not shit it up
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>>496816019
the melta bomb and auspex is what instantly took half his health
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Does this helmet pattern not exist? When I click it it just opens to the default heraldry page and I cant find it in any section.
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>>496821540
MY LEG IS GONE BROTHER
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>>496821594
its paypiggy helm
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>>496821594
It's "in the game" but doesn't actually exist anywhere yet as far as I know
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>>496821663
I have the season pass.

>>496821683
Quality slavic programming once again.
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>>496820965
No idea how much, if any, of this is true but it would be fucking hilarious.
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>Heavy Bolt Rifle lets us down
No surprises honestly
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>>496822038
>writers for TV shows actively disliking the source content
Why the fuck do studios keep hiring these fuckers?
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>>496821736
Small development team, please understand
>>496822251
It's because their vision is more important than what they're adapting
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>>496822251
ESG score. No I'm not kidding.
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>expect the ruthless missions to be complete shitshows
>they're pretty decent
welp
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Hey bros, I am currently contemplating getting this game. While I do feel iffy about ultramarines and have little interest in the campaign, I ultimately want to try out multiplayer. The problem is, will this be the same as when I played gears 5 for a few months and never touched it again, so should I wait for a discount or until modding takes off for this game?
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>>496822360
sounds like youve been lucky. Ive had flawless runs on ruthless and complete shitshows that dont make it to the 2nd weapon locker. And there really isnt any running thread between them, ive had great runs with 2 console users and shitshows with 2 PC, as well as the other way around.
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>>496821647
I felt bad for this dude. You can see him crippled laying down 10-15ft in front of the Marine wall. He gets totally fucked as soon as someone goes to rescue him. Never got to fight by the banner.
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>>496822547
Wait at least a year, there's literally only 3 maps in the multiplayer, and if you want to do the PVE multiplayer, you have to go through the story, but it only has 6 missions that you need to cycle through a shiload to max out classes and weapons
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IZM7M ROOFLESS 2/3
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>>496822964
invalid code
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>>496801723
Based!
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>>496821594
It's locked if you ever used any melta weapon.
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>>496823910
I play bulwark.
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>>496822038
>Cavill: "based!"
>Female writer: "b-based on what ??"
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>>496823910
>had to use one in a single match to get the "use every weapon as a tactical" achievement
Fuck.
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>>496822861
Got it, thanks anon. Hope the cosmetics aren't too expensive when they release.
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someone post codes or else
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>>496824939
I'm grinding sniper, is that a problem?
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>>496807060
For my Dude Wall brother, since you do it for free... when you deem the wall is complete. I will print out a copy of it for you on Satin Gloss. I can only do 42" wide length does not apply. Least you'll have something for your hard work brother.
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>go to B
>get 4 shock grenades thrown on me
>go to B after fight
>get 2 more shocks thrown on me by their two guys that survived
bruh
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>>496825767
Based
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>65 dollarydoos for season pass
and you get fuck all atm. SURELY the cost of it isn't going to go up....right?
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>>496826003
They should nerf shock grenades

Make them 1x use only or gatekeep them on certain classes
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is progress for between pvp and pve operation shared for unlocking stuff?
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>>496826573
Yes but customization is separate for whatever reason
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>>496826573
You unlock armor pieces by winning PVP matches or PVE matches, and you unlock currency in both, but everything else is separate to the point where what you wear and what color the items are don't carry over
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>>496826618
thanks anon
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>>496826371
It's weird to me it does 3 things at once. Big slow, blind, and damage over time. Every other grenade just does damage. They need to reduce the number of effects it has. Reduce its AOE by half, or something.
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Ruthless
QD244
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WHERE'S MY FUKKEN STORM BOLTER
WHERE'S MY FUKKEN AUTOCANNON
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So is this item just locked forever now?
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>load into match, 3-22
>3v6
>getting farmed on spawn, no spawn switch for some reason
>finally get switched, game starts filling
>final score is this after we start hard fucking them

Still lost but oh well. Best part was these spawn campings shitters had 10.0 KDs at the start and ended with pic related
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>its a game crashes and no reconnect option episode
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>>496826856
need a new code
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>>496822251
What the other two anons said, but sometimes it's also just due to rage bait. Same logic that washed up youtubers use to try and save their declining channel, but applied to a multi million dollar production instead.
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>>496827483
Not used on the six models available for play, so GW forbids it
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>>496822360
the patch made it super easy with all the nerfs
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>>496827819
Honestly, it's why I've put down the game for a while, I'd get maybe 2-3 matches and then get told the servers are offline and I'd only be able to play offline with no progress saved
>>496827551
Just wait until they decide to actually make a patch that fixes only half the shit that's broken
>>496827483
Not used by Primaris, so GW dictated that they can't add them :^)
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>>496824795
why would you post that are you trying to send me on a feels trip?
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>>496828481
HWNRW
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why is every faggot code expired in like 3 mins
ENA7V JOIN ROOFLESS LEVELING
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>>496828481
Don't worry, if this was before 5th edition he could be turned into a Pariah if he was a blank
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>>496828737
expired
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>>496822547
>>496822861
niggas there won't be a pvp community in a year
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>>496828737
that shit invalid you nigger
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>>496830106
there never will be because its matchmaking garbage
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WUXSN
Roofless fun incoming
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>>496828737
>>496830209
Expired
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>>496830209
>>496828737
Why do you fags post expired codes
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>>496830209
>>496830521
IJ5VX
It's not me its the game being retarded
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I've never seen someone get 40 kills, this guy was a beast with his Multimelta.
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64WRI
Alright trying one more time hopefully the game doesn't shit itself again
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>>496831303
>expired
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>>496828481
Didn't mean to lol. Just wanted to attach cool art
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>>496831352
The serves are shitting themselves then. It kicked me to tittle screen before.
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>>496831378
ok
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Occulus Bolt Carbine is the worst bolter. Low damage, high fire rate, means you're doing no damage and out of ammo before you realise it
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>>496831218
The highest I've seen anyone go is 32, blatantly cheating with a heavy bolter. Are you sure he was legit?>>496831218
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>>496831703
Don't know, only saw him a few times where he clumps entire squads

Can you even cheat that many kills in-game?
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>>496831694
Also 1 piercing for some goddamn reason. The Instigator is so much better in every way.
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>>496831880
Effective range on a multimelta is basically melee. Not saying it's impossible, but I've been playing nothing but pvp since launch and I think most would agree that if you see somebody with a good ratio, kill count in the 20s, they really went off. That's a very good performance. Games usually end before you can go higher than that. The guy I saw who cracked 32, he did that after joining midgame with some kind of damage hack. He was running around one shotting everyone with the heavy bolter. So I'd say your multimelta guy is sus.
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>>496831703
I frequently get 30+ kills with the heavy bolter it's not outlandish
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Y6bxr
anyone care to join? i want to votekick a skipper
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>>496832459
had a 42 kill streak at tacticool
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>>496832459
I'd love to see your gameplay. Like I said, I'm not saying it's impossible just unlikely from what I have seen.
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>>496807060
//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////
-Print nigga here, I can do this on matte/photo gloss/canvas but satin would do all these chapter colors better justice.
-As i am aware there have been 3 dude wall keepers, all dude wall keepers will receive a copy from me free as payment for service.
-Requirements up to 42" wide, full bleed i will need 1/4in bleeds so 41" final product width.
-If any Anons want a copy we'll have to work that out in the future but you'll have to pay to fund the Imperium. (This wall has alot of Ink)

If you guys are interested... not sure the best way going about this in a White Scar forum, leave me your steam ID or what have you.

//// END TRANSMISSION ////
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What's the best lasfusil?
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>>496833015
capacity
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Need a third.

4WYPQ
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TG6Gz
2/3
doing crazier stuff afgter i msure
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>>496821372
>incel chud Cavil plays Custodes
>suddenly there have always been female Custodes based on some shaky and dishonest interpretation of the lore
alt-right nazi chud pwned
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>>496833069
Yeah that's what I've been using. Just making sure.
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>>496833316
Custodes were always a dumb army.
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>>496812692
Use eshin grey for your primary paint, brother. It's closer to the actual Carcharodon look. The mechanics grey or whatever the devs assigned us is too blue.
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>>496817330
The part before guardsmen codes is like 1/5 of the mission and it can be the hardest considering the sub-boss usually spawns there and you can run out of ammo
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>>496832668
I don't really record myself but here are simple tips for playing heavy on capture and control
>always hug cover to your left
>don't stand out in the open and avoid cover to your right
>reposition to get cover onto your left side if you have to
>aggressively push points using iron halo
>you are your teams tank you have to manage the aggression of your whole team when pushing together
>if you encounter a single opponent use your iron halo, gun him down then manually disable the iron halo. You should come out with over 50% charge remaining for the next activation
>always use heavy stance for your heavy bolter, hipfire deals reduced damage
>don't panic when assaults or vanguards charge at you, most of the time you can gun them down before they finish you off
>if bulwarks walk at you with their shield up throw a shock grenade at them and hose them down while they panic roll or spam attacks
>if bulwarks walk at you with their shield up and you're out of grenades seek help from your team
>team play is important even no one communicates, if nothing else you should try to enable your team
I frequently top the scoreboard with anywhere from 3000 to 5500 points following these steps
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>pvp
>go assault
>faggy vanguard and sniper just dodge away while trying to melee
>if i try and shoot they just kill me with their higher damage weapon
lol?
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>>496834337
I hate it when a TPS has no option to alternate the perspective of the camera between the left and right shoulders.
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>>496834337
I'm not asking for tips, I'm asking you to post gameplay. Not trying to be a jerk, I've just literally never seen anyone get that many kills except one guy who was blatantly cheating. So it would be a pleasure to see you play.
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>>496834946
I've caught a handful of people with pistol rounds who try to dodge away, it's fun when it works but I'm not good with Assault
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>>496835035
I can look into recording footage but no promises
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>>496834946
>go out of your way to make ranged weapons useless in coop
>go out of your way to make melee weapons useless in pvp
why did saber do this
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>>496835904
so vanguard is top tier in both
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>>496834946
>impossible to get more than one hit with chainsword because of its shit range and speed
>thunder hammer is only good for ground pound follow ups
>power sword dodge attack spam works ok
>the actual best melee weapon is the fucking knife
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le disconnected from server face
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>>496836750
FZRPZ
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I think fighting pixie dust marines is pretty cool
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DUGXD
doing one more
2/3
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>>496836858
this game makes me want to buy noise/rubric/berzerker/plague marines
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How would a Librarian/Sorcerer play?
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>>496837267
Different abilities you activate like melee combos
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>>496836986
fil'd thanks
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>OH N-
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>>496837267
>bolt pistol like any other
>force staff or force sword melee weapons
>force staff is a psyker alternative to the thunderhammer
>force sword is a psyker alternative to the powersword
>smite ability
>perks can change your smite to deal high single target damage, bounce across targets as chain lightning or hit everything in a circle AoE
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>>496837267
Rip off the Psyker gameplay from Darktide
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why does this suck so fucking bad?
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>>496838245
I think instead of perks changing your cast it should change based on how long you hold the input
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>>496838519
It's the glasses to the lasgun's flashlight
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>>496838138
>Tyrant get a skyscrapper sized statue dropped on his face
>Walk it off 4 minutes later
>Is combat-ready in 6
Huh, helldrake bros? What the fuck?
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>>496838935
big bug>chaos
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CODES FOR THE CODE GOD
ROOMS FOR THE ROOM THRONE
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nerf chaos in ops
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FUCKING BUFF BOLTERS HOLY SHIT THESE GUNS ARE DOGSHIT IN PVE
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>>496839260
They did.
Hard.
Everything does at least 1/3 less damage and has 2/3 smaller spawn rates now.
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One thing I hope for are modding tools to be announced. Would be cool to have a Dornian Heresy Iron Fist go against some World Eaters
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>>496839689
modding tools for an always online game? Unlikely
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>>496839260
Chaos is too easy in ops now.
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YGXX9
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>>496838935
Weakest hive tyrant vs chaos' strongest heldrake
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>>496840214
Need one more. Last game for me tonight.
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>>496839689
>>496839878
Modding tools for a GW product? Are you fucking insane?
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>>496840759
Hey I can dream :(
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>>496837267
>regular shots fire like darktide
>zoom is instead psyker ability
>splits like guns with each staff having different ability
>venting mechanic that deals health damage if you overheat
>ult is aoe stagger idk
>force sword only
>plasma pistol only
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>finally destroy Cadia
>10 more pop up all across the galaxy
How the fuck has chaos not lost yet? Every single time they appear anywhere they get dabbed on
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>>496840214
>>496840623
Please we need a third.
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>>496841707
because then games workshop would have to think of a new enemy to sell more marines and thats too hard
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>>496841707
the warp is effectively an unassailable fortress any powerful servant of chaos can retreat to. chaos siphons power from realspace with impunity.
unless the necrons had total, uncontested control of the galaxy, chaos cannot lose.
losing in this context meaning that the galaxy is merely severed from the warp by necron technology. this would also mean psychic powers are no longer a thing within the perimeter of the galaxy.
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>>496841730
I'm level 9 with green weapons, would join but won't.
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>>496817194
>Darktide got a lot more shit for launching in a similar state,
Darktide was lacking in content and was fundamentally badly designed as well. Fatshark through all this time since release was doing nothing but reworking utterly fucked up core gameplay mechanics. And they are still not finished yet, Darktide still has retarded mission selection with other issues being unfixable save for creating a DT2.
SM2 has no such problems and is competently made. Saber is free to simply create new content on a good base now, they don't need to overhaul or fix anything major.
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>>496841730
expired
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>>496841730
>YGXX9
expired
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>>496842160
For all we know that could also mean eldar and humans die because they're warp sensitive species
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>>496840759
this was possible in ancient times
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>>496820965
>>496820215
Cavill is at best late 8th edition newfag to Warhammer as a whole
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>>496841707
Everything that isn't IoM exists solely to pretend to be a threat to IoM except when allying with IoM is able to serve as a plot point so IoM can "suffer catastrophic losses but still win the event" and justify either repackaging already existing models or give a range refresh. If you're talking about it from an in universe perspective, the only winners are going to be either Orkz, Tyranids, or Chaos, and even with the latter two Orkz still get second place by default provided the modern Necrons don't wake up in full, decide to stop squabbling over petty bullshit in exactly the same way the IoM does and completely shut down everything
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AHX4I
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>be heavy
>play with bulwark and vanguard
>constantly swarmed by sword shield nidders
>bulwark constantly ruunning miles ahead trying to speedrun
Many such cases.
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>>496842250
humans don't seem to die when in the vicinity of warp nullification tech, but it would need exploration into what happens to people that are born inside a warp nullification field and what happens to souls when people die inside such a field.
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>>496842390
What difficulty? I'm level 12 trying to get my first purp and have time for maybe 1 more.
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>>496842947
it doesnt matter no one is joining but it would be average/substantial whatever youre comfortable with (i would pick ruthless regardless)
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>>496843040
I see, I don't really have time to wait on a 3rd RN sadly.
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>>496843184
2 people joined just now kek
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>>496843226
Epic.
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>>496842353
It won't be orks if GW can help it. They originally won The End Times when Grimgor kicked Archaon's teeth in but they retconned it and still had Chaos win and destroy everything.
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>>496843932
Yeah but Orkz got a good fight out of it, and is that not their end goal?
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>>496843982
I think their end goal is also not to get krumped
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>>496843982
Win or Lose Orks still win all the time because they got a PROPA FIGHT out of it. They will always come back for another scrap
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>>496844107
Ah but you see, by being well and truly krumped, they are not truly Orkish enough to come back and krump an enemy
>>496844226
Green truly is best
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Remember when the Orkz ransacked the Imp Palace then ran away through a portal

Wild
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>>496844548
I don't
because I don't read new lore
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>>496844548
Remember when the harlequins invaded the imperial palace and cut down a bunch of Custodes like dogs?
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Relic Heavy Bolter being damage 9 is unbelievably pathetic
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Do tell, How does a game when unplugged from the internet have high ping ?

What cause such retardations?

Have the developers been afflicted with cranial injuries?

desu
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>>496844891
I'm offline and getting red bar connection
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>>496801407
PAINT ONLY THE GAUNLET WHEN?!!!
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>>496844987
press tab to see your ping
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>SM2 patch hits
>get stuttering I can't fix despite nothing about my graphic settings changing, and it running smoothly before
>graphics driver update comes out, download and install
>lose 20 FPS in SM2 for no reason
it's like this game doesn't want me to play it
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>>496820927
I feel you, anon. The fact that we got SM2 before having a funcional DT is just sad.
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>press escape
>quit to desktop
>loading screen pops up
this fucking game man
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>>496844987
What could it be......

no....I can't be .....The Organization?
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>>496844891
>>496845459
KANEDAAAAAAA
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>>496845673
Different Tetsuo, this is the Iron Man
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>level 1 assault with full hawk lord colors on Ruthless
this is gonna rock
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>>496845887
hawk tuah spit on that fruity nigga
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>>496845957
Please remove yourself from this board
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>>496846042
I think he's just hip and jiggy with the lingo of the youth of today
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>Guy with Gene-seed disconnects
I may be late to the party but this feeling is unpleasant
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bulwark's perks are so much cooler than assault's
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>>496845835
I know but it's just a joke.
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>>496845887
Hey I did Ruthless as a level 3 sniper. He may have other level 25 classes.
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>>496846205
but assault makes me happy when he does the big bonks
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>nerf grenade launcher by removing its ability to restock from ammo crates
>tactical can get ammo off of melee finishers
I WILL SPAM THE GRENADE LAUNCHER
THEY CANNOT STOP ME
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I am fortifying this thread.
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>>496842298
I have been praying for a sequel for decades, but the Emperor doesn't hear me.
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>>496846851
correction
I don't even need to be in melee
killing a Majoris level enemy or higher is all I need to do in order to spam the grenade
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>>496846965
Best I can do is DoW3
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>>496847040
Just give me the Emperor's Peace then.
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what if they put the wrong guy on the spicy office chair?
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>All of my worst runs have always been with heavies.
>Not even talking about skill issue, just plain assholery
What is it about with this class that draws the absolute shit stains to them?
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>>496847040
But that hasn't come out yet.
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>>496847192
I've never had a problem with heavies. Most of the assholes I've run into have usually been snipers or vanguards. They zip around stealing items and get in the way the entire time.
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>>496842298
That marine looks like he's distressed because he's stuck in a low poly world
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>>496847192
I don't know, my heavies have been pretty normal
Sniper and Assault are the only retards I've ever run into where they use their class ability to run the fuck away towards the next ASSEMBLE point as if everyone else can keep up even if they wanted to
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>>496846851
It's just killing a majoris in literally any situation. Melee attack, execution, gunstrike, Bolter round, Grenade Launcher round, Grenade, Pistol
>>496847083
I understand your suffering and weep with you. I'd kill for someone to take everything that's in Soulstorm and just update it in a way that doesn't shit the bed in terms of frame rate with something like UA or the offshoot Crucible and make text virtually nonexistent at really high resolution
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>>496846965
I like dawn of war 2 on its own but I would be massively disappointed if I was actually playing it as a sequel to dawn of war
the baneblade's cannons are active abilities for fucks sake
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>>496847192
In my experience its the melee classes who are assholes, as a heavy I put so much fire into enemies and set them up for executions only for the meleefags to run in and take it leaving me to get swarmed.
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>>496847275
Being stuck in the hell that is our infinite poly world makes me yearn to be in a low poly world.
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>>496847192
>>496847443
I've seen some absolutely retarded heavies who play like they're a vanguard or something.
Stay in the backline, nigger.
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>>496847274
>>496847346
>All these sniper hate propaganda
>When sniper kills flying ball shitters, bosses, majoris, cloaks to revive and generally saves the run
That's a lie, snipers are emps blessed angels sent from the heavens that carries games.
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>>496847551
>stay in the backline
>meleefag runs ahead and right in front of me eating half my rounds
>enemies start spawning behind
>die
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the relic tier having an xp bar must mean a tier beyond that is planned right? that must be why it's going to take until season 2 for the next difficulty?
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I really hope they buff the Occulus Bolt Carbine because I leveled it all the way up hoping that it would be good in the end but it never got any better
it's just shit
it serves no purpose
it's worse than a bolt pistol at killing crowds and single targets
it doesn't do anything
please devs, don't let all my time spent go to waste
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>>496847723
The game needs more missions not more difficulties
There should have been at least 10 on launch but it's obviously constricted by how short the campaign is
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>>496847661
I would play sniper but phobos looks so bad that I'd be genuinely embarrassed running around like that.
Maybe I'll finally be able to play him when they release chaos ops.
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>>496847672
>meleefag runs ahead and right in front of me eating half my rounds
Pick another target
>enemies start spawning behind
Turn around and stomp them
Any heavy that needs to move at the same pace or even in front of teammates is either retarded or a meltafaggot
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>>496847672
you are the type of heavy nigger described in the greentext here >>496813257
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>>496847661
I actually love the sniper class, I think it's amazing
when I play it myself I am unkillable and stealth can effectively be used all the time assuming you don't need to perform any stealth team res
that said, the other anon said Heavies draw in shit stains
the only classes I've ever seen try to run through the whole op as if enemies aren't real are assault and sniper
Sniper is a good class, but it's kit draws in retards
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>>496848045
As a bulwark main I'm just praising the emperor whenever I see a sniper instead of another melta fag
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>>496847192
>Meltanigger class has retards flocking to them
Are you surprized
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>>496822038
>female staff firing people via multiple HR complaints
>female staff costing too much money for fruitless HR investigations
this reads like parody
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The bolt sniper rifle is so abysmally fucking bad holy shit.
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>>496848824
I don't understand how they think it can even remotely compete with the longlas.
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HOLY FUCK, whoever suggested lossless scaling in the last bread, i would literally suck your dick and balls in thanks. went from dynamic resolution to try and maintain 55 frames to over 100 without the visuals dropping. shit is fucking MAGICAL. now if only there is a way to remove the random micro stutters in pvp. i thought it was due to my fps but even now with stable frames it still happens, unless its just the server or something
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>>496848917
Same reason as why the laser cannon in Helldivers is/was so OP, devs seem to think wind-up weapons should be like 50% more powerful for no reason other than being slightly annoying to use.
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>>496848824
one more game to get it to relic then I am never touching it again. not just an awful gun, but one of the worst sniper rifles in any shooter I've ever played. they'd have to buff it by 100% for me to consider ever equipping it again after this.
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>>496848007
I do none of those things. I refuse to use anything that's not a bolter.
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>>496848824
>>496849219
is this in pve? seemed pretty solid in pvp
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PVP should be another completely different game and just put all their resources to PVE.
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>>496804314
>>496813273
too bad we don't have a single emperor shite on the dudewall
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Best Teammates to see in lobby
>S tier
Tactical
>A tier
Bulwark
Heavy
>B tier
Sniper
>C tier
Assault
>I'm kicking you tier
Vanguard
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>>496849718
What's wrong with Vanguard?
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>>496849718
if you care about what classes your teammates are you are honestly just dogshit
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>>496849842
get kicked nerd
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>>496849912
vanguard is the best class to carry shitter teammates such as yourself with though
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>>496849842
this
>play tactical
>spam grenade launcher
>win
it's that easy
I only play with other people so they can distract the enemies away from me and I give them a free carry in return
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>>496849772
They do nothing to benefit the group that other classes don't do better. Tactical does ranged better. Bulwark and Assault does melee better. Sniper does single target removal better. And every class can end call ins ridiculously easy. They have no place.
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>>496849718
>B tier
>Sniper
once they fix his perks and his fucking breakpoints he's above bulwark and heavy, and bulwark is easily below heavy, not same tier
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>>496849718
lmao do niggas really care what other players pick in this game?

I just join the game as John Warhammer and parry my way through hordes of xenos, most of the time I don't even see the other teammates because I'm in the midst of the swarm, living my power fantasy.
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>>496849718
is assault bad at higher difficulties or something? im only a newbie but the hammer was going hard in my games
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>>496849958
melta* and heavy does that better lol get kicked nerd
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>>496850132
it's a very high skill floor for mediocrity
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>>496850132
Noobs die with it a lot
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>>496849718
sniper belongs in S tier because anyone competent at the class can figure out how to stay invisible forever and if the enemies can't see you they can't hurt you
ez gaem
never die
gg nerds
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>>496849256
>Anon said nothing about the behaviour, only that he plays a different weapon
You are one of those heavy nigs. Admit it.
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>>496849772
The entire class gimmick is performing a grapple execution, and you will never get that execution off before someone else on the team kills what you're grappling to, and while you're grappling you can still be shot, and somehow it feels like you turn into an instant bullet magnet the second you activate it, eating nid shotgun blasts in the face while you have no control over your character

his secondary gimmick is being very survivable, on his own, and who cares, if I wanted someone who will survive when everyone else is down and clutch a ruthless, I'd ask the sniper to do it
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>>496850054
>caring about team comp in post-nerf sm2
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>>496850228
i use the grapple to steal executions hehe
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uh oh vanguard mains meltie
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>>496850157
wrong. it's assault with a combat knife and free healing/better get to your teammates to save them or delete pesky ranged attackers cooldown

you are just shit and have no game sense
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>>496850132
Melee filters noobs in this game
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>>496850157
>>496849718
>sniper below heavy
man that greentext anon was right, delusional heavies really do come to sm2g to try and gaslight people here
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>>496850291
also melta is the worst weapon on the heavy because its ammo economy and force projection is just dogshit
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For me it's not a class thing but you can absolutely tell who the retards are by looking at who spams executes on a majoris thats on its own every time
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>>496850054
what about their perk that gives 10% hp on melee majoris kill
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>Burnt out
>Last cheevo is 41k kills
Considering waiting for Horde mode, but game might be dead by then
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>>496769567
I'm with you brother
Phobos is the only good Primaris armor and nothing can change my mind
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>>496850653
Not a team perk, that's just for them. The team perk is the 15% skill regeneration
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>>496850054
Assault doesn't do melee better. Vanguard gets combat knife for unmatched parrying capacity and melta (melta is a melee weapon, any argument to the contrary WILL be ignored). Plus it is the best at interrupting reinforcement summonings
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>>496850054
>melta for wave clear allowing tact to save nades or focus down elites with plasma
>team cdr perk
>stim economy advantage
>mediocore boss damage mens jackshit when you have tact and sniper on the team, in fact you can play to the team and manage trash as the two focus down the boss
>mobility to hit backline ranged shitters, relieving pressure on the sniper to not be the single point of failure all the time
>mobility to shore up crumbling teammates who fucked up a orange notification
>unkillable to run down the clock
>unlike heavy mains they don't delude themselves in thinking they're the main character and as indispensable as tact/sniper
Vanguard smoothens out the run insanely to round off the sweat duo but don't let the heavy simps hear that or they'll throw a melty
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>>496850735
It is a team perk because it means you can hand off all the stimms to your teammates as you can sustain easily with executes kek
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The only comp I still don't like playing with is Assault/Bulwark. They are fine individually but have zero synergy together and that combo objective sucks ass at killing terminus bosses. All they can do is stay alive while a ranged spams headshots, that's their ''job'' during hard encounters.
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>>496850830
by that logic bulwark is just an upgraded vanguard, because he can give them all the stims and instantly full heal with his banner, and he can also full heal his teammates by dropping a banner on them while they're mid execute animation
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>>496850742
Meta knife + vanguard perks are so cracked that despite melee being dogwater in this game, vanguard can acceptably melee down bosses through the sheer amount of bonuses he get to melee damage if it comes down to it.
I say 'acceptably' because realistically nothing compares to auspex and sniper combo.
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>>496850938
but bulwark doesnt have mobility, ammo economy, or combat knife
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>>496850938
unlike vanguard bulwark doesn't delete a entire wave in one left click
the best crowd control is killing shit. How did mmos not teach you this yet?
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>>496851026
>ammo economy
The class that doesn't ever need to shoot due to aoe damage has no Ammo economy..?
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>>496851068
if you dont commonly find yourself wanting for plasma pistol ammo your play style isnt balanced enough
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>>496851059
you only need one melta on the team, and tactical has infinite ammo so he can bring the actually good melta with the boosted range instead of your cuck ammo economy melta
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>>496851158
The plasma needs to only be used to end call ins. The aoe damage from shock and parry is fucking mental.
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>>496849718
>S tier
Tactical
Sniper
Heavy
>Not S tier
Bulwark
Assault
Vanguard
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>>496851026
>grapple
>mobility
the bulwark can literally just sprint towards the ranged nids and take 0 damage
the vanguard will take his entire healthbar in damage while mid grapple animation to a pack of shotgun nids
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>>496851183
>tact on melta
kek.
gigakek.
omegalul kek.
kekypow even
I had the feeling from your anti-vanguard shilling but everything makes sense now, you're just a plain ole shitter son.
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>>496851204
Besides the fact shock has a long cooldown, terminus, extremis, and in many cases majoris that are grouped closely together you should absolutely be dumping charged shots on.
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>>496831378
>>496824795
Disgusting AND cringe
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>>496851303
>advocating for grenade underbarrel
this actually invalidates your opinion, ironically
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>>496851263
>vanguard will take max damage grappling over
why do you lie
also stop samefagging replies to yourself heavynigger it's fucking pathethic how much seethe you're giving off
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>>496851425
maybe they changed it with the patch, but pre-patch I had it happen to me plenty, and I'm not getting on just to play post-patch vanguard
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>>496851385
nta but grenade launcher is ez babby mode
if you think melta beats grenade launcher you may be retarded
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>>496851263
>I dont know when or how to grapple, therefore it is bad
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>>496851385
>he still doesn't know
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>>496851482
Your argument was the grapple can get you to backline ranged mobs. I just said you will get shot by them while going to them. You can't say your argument is now that you wouldn't grapple into backline ranged mobs.

>>496851476
>nta but grenade launcher is ez babby mode
Yeah no shit, and getting a full reload on them from tac's perk is an obvious bug they missed with the ammo cache nerf. You'd have to be a faggot to be abusing them and then claiming you're the authority on what tactical should be bringing.
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Face it vanguards you're irrelevant
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>>496851472
>heavynig doesn't deny samefagging
sad and cringe
multiple anons have ALREADY told you off, not just me and you're still being a stubborn donkey fuck.
Stay retarded.
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>>496850207
>I do none of those things
By your inability to read I posit that it is in fact you who is the nig
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>>496849502
PvP and PvE have almost completely flipped balancing. The best weapons everyone uses in PvP are the absolute worst guns for PvE that nobody uses. Auto bolt rifle, power fist, bolt sniper, carbine smg, those are the PvP meta and the worst guns in operation.
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>>496851660
I don't know who your schizo tulpa is, so I didn't engage with your delusion. I'm sorry you weren't able to get over it with my reply.
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>>496851608
>you will get shot by them while going to them
the larger ones' volleys have a cooldown you can wait for, the little ones barely tickle, and in that case if you have no armor you will get the contested health back instantly when you land anyway.
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>>496851608
Firstly you don't take much damage on grapple, no idea why you're trying to spread misinformation. 2ndly you don't give a shit about losing hp on grapple because you left click with melta when you land to refill all the white hp back anyway.
>Nade launcher
Isn't even tact's best weapon you scrubby moron.
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>>496851608
>wah, grenade launcher is an exploit
>devs didn’t mean to give tactical infinite ammo perk, it’s there by accident
I think you may be the faggot
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grenade launcher isnt even good you retards. for anything that is even remotely a threat you only want plasma
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>>496851689
>PvP weapons need to deal a ton of damage in a short time to kill the rare deadly enemies you meet
>PvE weapons need to deal constant damage over a period of time to deal with hordes of chaff before they grind you down
Makes sense if you think about it this way
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>he thinks the cooldown timer doesn't give it away
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>>496851804
>Firstly you don't take much damage on grapple
Sorry, I had the fortune of playing the game back when it was hard, and stopped playing it after they made it easy enough for you to get up to ruthless.

>>496851824
The perk says it gives you a magazine's worth of ammo. Is literally ALL of your grenades a magazine's worth? Do you really think that's how it's meant to work? Really?
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>>496851875
>shoot grenade at threat
>threat and everything around it dies
>this is somehow not a good thing
ok, retard
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no one here posting about how x class is shit or something has clearly even posted a code or even joined one

stay pub tier lmao. im going to sleep, gn shitters
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So how'd this game end up being good if the lead writer was a green hair?
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>>496851660
>ARRGGGHH ITS THE HEAVIES THEYRE FUCKING GANGSTALKING ME
Vanguards lol
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>>496851965
ah yes because heldrakes, zoanthropes, neurothropes, carnifexes, helbrutes, hive tyrants, terminators, sorcerers etc etc are surrounded by enemies, and grenades do excellent single target damage

KEK heres your (You)
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>>496851919
>He thinks that he's the only one who played prepatch
>he thinks grapnel worked differently before this
>he thinks vanguard was only meta after babby nerfs to difficulty
>shitter died on vanguard once and now cries himself to sleep every night
can you be any more cringe mang
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>>496851919
the grenade launcher doesn’t have a reload, as in all the rounds are fired from a single magazine, so yes
all the increased magazine size perks alter the grenade launcher as well
it functions as a singular magazine so the perk that reloads your magazine seems to be functioning exactly as it is worded
cope and seethe
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>>496852146
Who are you quoting? Where was any of this said? Are you okay?
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If the ego of display isn't enough reason to kick vanguards then I don't know what is. You'd think they carry the entire group based on how they think they play.
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>>496850735
>Not a team perk
oh whoops
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>>496852074
You know getting scanned makes you take more damage and you become visible to every enemy through walls right.
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>>496852106
everything you stated is unironically true though
are you okay, retard?
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>>496852224
don't bother arguing it's just one samefagging heavyfag thinking he's the emperor's chosen here to carry us all.
His misconceptions on how tact weapons work already give away his skill issues, least to say about his BS propaganda regarding vanguard
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>>496852106
>and grenades do excellent single target damage
they do tho, way faster at killing majoris+ than melta at least
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>>496852224
>the grenade launcher doesn’t have a reload
Neither does the plasma rifle. It doesn't refill completely from the perk. You lose. Bye.
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>>496852335
a white bolt pistol will do excellent single target damage with auspex too.
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>>496852292
Why don't you create your own insults instead of hijacking others heavynig?
I understand the projection but the lack of creativity is a mortal sin.
Then again you are a chinese bugman so
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>>496852487
I'm a bulwark schizo
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>>496852426
i highly doubt it does better single target damage than charged plasma shots
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>>496848935
Not me but I would've recommended lossless scaling as well. Performance mode also works just as good as the default but with noticeably less latency.
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>>496852106
>nades don't do single target damage he says
keep hanging yourself son it's hilarious to see
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>>496852573
didnt you learn about adjectives in grade school
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>>496852327
Yeah see through walls not shoot through them his model literally isn't visible. He did it multiple times. Either that specific corner is bugged or he was doing some camera/model offset mod to shoot around corners.
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All perks are team perks, because you're part of the team
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>>496852713
good luck convincing any of these main character syndrome pubshitters that
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>>496852457
you can’t just cherry pick one of the rules of the logic
does the other plasma gun benefit from magazine bonuses?
I can pick one thing too retard
>grenade launcher benefits from magazine perks, you lose
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>>496852763
Yeah vanguards are obnoxious
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>>496852474
you are just as disingenuous as a leftist tranny
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>>496852795
Pubshitters maybe. Any vanguard ive played with from this thread is fine.
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>>496852702
It could be the latter unintentionally due to how bad the hit reg is at times. I've died behind cover to bullets hitting where I was a quarter second ago.
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>>496852795
>Says the heavy as he seethes about vanguard for the nth time even in unrelated posts
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>>496852856
you're the one implying that heldrakes are surrounded by enemies, not me
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Is the high setting on texture resolution bugged? I keep getting microstutters, which is strange considering it's fine on the very high setting
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>>496852830
yeah that's the power of corner camping
how good you are at shooting from a corner will decide how good you are in PVP
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>>496853062
there’s literally chaos hordes constantly spawning the whole fight
what the fuck are you smoking
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>>496853265
stop replying to the heavynigger, he's dogshit at the game we established that from his comments about tact and melta
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I am a heavy and I love smoking the enemies of the Emperor, also cock.
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>>496852856
this is a totally normal comment to make btw
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Heavy schizo needs to take his meds
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>>496853390
you will never be a real woman or normal and everyone can tell
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>>496853478
yeah im a guy dude, id even be willing to bet the original commenter you replied to is as well, you are just brain broken
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Magazine out
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>>496853390
I will always point out when people argue disingenuously or in bad faith because it’s cowardly and disgusting trannies always do it
I’m not sorry
I’m tired of seeing it
kikes do it too
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>Tacticals are nothing without a heavy to actually do the work for them
>Snipers are useless without a heavy to cover them
Kneel to your heavy gods.
Be grateful heavy players don't charge you for dragging your sandbagging asses across the finish line.
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>>496853669
your parents should really be monitoring your internet usage
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>>496853694
You actually didn't beat the game if your team isn't
A block powerfist assault
A bolt rifle vanguard with block knife
A bot
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>>496853562
Magazine in
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>>496853771
I finance my own home
I openly mock kikes and trannies to my friends and family
I even got my “God’s chosen” preaching boomer of a Dad to see the truth that modern day kikes all worship the star of remphan and live under moloch
I live in truth, and those around me respect me for it
cope and seethe
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When I'm playing bulwark sometimes I will parry/block a blue attack late but it still staggers and if I don't have armour it will take my entire hp usually is this normal? I still get the parry/block sound
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>>496854030
This mostly happens to me with the whip warriors but I've seen it happen with just about any enemy type. I have no idea what causes this.
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>>496854030
Happens to me too.
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>>496853987
>im so cool and successful i go on 4chan to cry about trannies and kikes
very convincing, im sure youre quite le epic aryan and not a total retard!
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>>496853265
PLASMA ONE CYCLES THE HELDRAKE BEFORE ANYTHING EVEN SPAWNS YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARD LMFAO
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Using nuln oil as the base but keeping the pauldrons iron hands steel makes the Iron Hands look a lot better in my opinion.
They look too glossy otherwise.
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>>496854264
I never claimed grenade launcher was BiS for drake
calm down nigger
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>>496854331
Isn't that because those colours swapped after the patch
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>>496854263
cope
and
seethe
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>>496843932
>the absolute fuckfest that was the storm of chaos event
I remember the green kroosade
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>>496854592
Did they? I didn't unlock them until after the patch.
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Am I the only one who at first never tried to parry helbrutes/carnis/tyrants?
Felt like they were too big and powerful to parry even though they aren't, especially helbrutes because they don't get any blue parry markers at all.
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>>496854458
its not bis for anything other than chaff (why are you worrying about chaff lol are you bad or something?)
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>>496854739
helbrutes have a couple blue attacks but you need to already be on top of them for them to use them. the charges are all red.
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>>496854813
I've never seen a blue attack from them, only unmarked ones
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why does every mp game need a domination game type? fuckin thing SUCKS. king of the hill is superior
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>>496854790
you know what
grenade launcher is BiS
for everything
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>>496855080
Domination is fine but the gameplay of SM2 is just really unsuited to it. Though I remember a really fun match where my team got half the kills of the enemy and still won through sheer bone-headed grit.
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>>496854739
Does the Carnifex actually do anything you can parry except the spinning shit when hes facing someone else. Helbrutes I know you can parry the teleport attack but I never manage to get a gunstrike on him
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>>496850246
Yesteday some niggers kicked me because I wasn't using the melta as vanguard in a ruthless run I joined. They complained about it in chat.
Joined another game luckily didn't get kicked and did more damage and got more kills with the Instigator than the meltafag. Also didn't get downed once while they did at least 2 times each,
Metafagging in this game is cringe
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>>496854790
>worrying about chaff in this patch of the game
Even with the nerfs shitters remain shitters lmao
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>Straban in game is a calm, rational and well adjusted individual
>His playerbase is mostly made up of schizos foaming at the mouth
Why is this? Also which class unironically has players acting most similar to them
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>>496855613
>Also which class unironically has players acting most similar to them
Vanguards in pvp because they are both niggers
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>>496855613
Vanguard niggers
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>>496855613
Vanguards are unhinged murderhobos.
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>>496855594
Anyone make a good Retributors yet?
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>>496852383
>>496852487
>>496852924
>>496853325
>>496853396
>>496855613
Stop sneedthing over HeavyCHADS please its embarrassing
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>>496854703
for unknown reasons saber swapped iron hands steel and nuln oil
one of the hints if you didn't already know this is that the profile picture of iron hands steel is still grey and nuln oil's is still black
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>>496852561
i mean yeah it's basically the middleground between the plasma and the melta
good aoe, good single target, not the best at either
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>>496855517
yeah there's 0 reason to metafag anyways especially after the nerfs
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>gets put in a lobby with Chinks
>they run to the objective and only doing the bare minimum in cleaning up the enemies
>a Carnifex showed up and the Heavy and Tactical ran straight to the lift
Holy fucking shit these zipperheads need to be separated from the rest of the world.
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>>496855517
It unironically allowed shitters into difficulties they don't belong in
I've watched meltaniggers try to 1v1 warriors in melee and just fail at it before they panic roll and start shooting again
>then they sperg out in chat about how it's my responsibility to save them with my big plasma cock
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>>496855469
They both only do parriable attacks when in melee range.
The helbrute has a double slam with a strange timing that's parriable, I forget if the carnifex had anything else.
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>>496856340
>Heavy fanfiction
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I WANNA FIGHT ORKS
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>>496856407
You must be one of the shitters I watched go down to a warrior in melee
I auspexed him for you too, you fucking worthless nigger
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>Regular Bolter, Plasma and Melta done
>Auto, Heavy, Carbine and Stalker left
the pain never stops does it
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>>496854865
they're fucking hard to bait out, since the brute is usually spamming the hammer slam or teleporting between your teammates, and then you're running out of the range they can use their blues in. for all intents and purposes they may as well not exist
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>>496856578
Heavy is actually kind of okay
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>>496855517
>Use Stock/Master Grade skins on Relic guns because I don't like how gaudy they look
>Melta shitter with his crayon marine equipped with a random Deathwatch shoulder and Ultramarine Captain heraldry complains I'm using under-levelled gear
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>>496856578
Stalker is actually good but you do have to eat shit in the early tiers.
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>>496855613
Without a doubt vanguard.
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>>496856528
>More fanfiction
Nigger do you come up with these in your wagiecage or what
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I play heavy because his armour is cool and I like his gun tubes.

If tactical had the tactical knife I would definitely main tactical but the chainsword doesn't do it for me
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>>496856684
I don't think that many black people play this game
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>>496856578
Heavy gets really good accuracy and is also a good hipfire weapon
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>>496856578
I think the auto bolt rifle and heavy bolt rifle are better than the regular bolt rifle
the stalker is its own thing but good enough
the carbine sucks major dick
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>>496855613
>all these samefag replies suspiciously timed
im noticing...
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>>496850054
The perk that gives everybody 15% ability charge back for finishers, not just executions, finishers (this includes lethal Gun Counters and blue circle Minoris parries), is literally the most cracked team ability in the game. What's better than Tactical using Auspex? Tactical being able to use Auspex every single fight.
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maybe im just retarded, but i find the whole 'everything is different in every mode' shit really fucking annoying and the menus are such cluster fucks
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>>496856787
I only use the regular bolt rifle for the grenade launcher. learning how not to spam them and use them smart makes me out damage meltas and heavies, while also providing effective wave clear. ammo perk just gives you unlimited grenades, so thats a plus and the ammo crate nerf did virtually nothing
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>>496855613
I'm not sure how well adjusted someone as severely autistic as straban can be.
But he's the good kind of autistic, the autistic silence kind instead of the autistic screeching kind.
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>>496856958
Holy shit it reduces cd on any gunstrike too?
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>>496857127
If it's lethal, yes.
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>>496856731
I also think that Tactical should have access to the knife
I don’t see why he shouldn’t have it
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Waiting on a friend to get his copy before playing, can you rotate the arrow on the shoulder? Want to make some pre-heresy stuff as best as this allows.
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>>496856716
you could just get better at melee and learn to parry
but stay mad, shitter
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>>496857229
Tactical should also get more pistol options, but here we are
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>>496834963
You want to hug left corner not because of the perspective, but because of the way Heavy holds his gun way off to the right, so sitting behind a corner you only expose your leg while your head is protected.
Heavy specifically would be hard to do proper shoulder change with because the way his gun is attached with cables would require some creative thinking on how to animate that. He'd have to throw the gun over his head or jump over it himself
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>>496857343
>splergs all over the place abbadadeeDOO
>s-s-stay mad
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>>496857229
>>496857397
Because they wanted to troll me specifically by having me play the campaign with my favourite combo of HBR, HBP and Tactical Knife then make that combo literally impossible to use in Ops.
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>>496857229
It's an utterly baffling decision considering tactical marines in the campaign are shown to use them.
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>>496857447
>He'd have to throw the gun over his head or jump over it himself
>spamming shoulder change keeps you in mid-air with the gun beneath you
>heavies start tony hawking around the map
Sounds kino
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>>496834963
Saber cucks claim it's because they would have to double the animations of every action an astartes could do. No one is asking for that, just put the camera over the left you slavoids.
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>>496851214
Switch Heavy with Bulwark and you got it.
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>>496807914
>>496811493
>>496812692
>>496820081
Received.
>>496813490
Brother, cropping is very appreciated, I will however, require a full screenshot from you if you could post it at your convenience.
>>496810861
Fret not, Brother. Thought crossed my mind, but I don't plan on imposing submission limits any time soon. If you are Knights Tenacious creator, I would invite you to fashion a shoulder pad for your HB Chapter and post it here (I shall put it on the Wall as well)
>>496825767
>>496832914
I am very humbled, Brother. I don't know what to say other than Thank you. But you really needn't :) That sounds like a serious undertaking. I enjoy making the Wall with everybody's help here and I'm can't express how glad I am that it has found appreciation. There will be a moment when we can deem the Dude Wall complete-ish, sooner than later I'm sure.We'll think of something since the idea of the Wall on physical medium sounds exciting to say the least!
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>join an operation in-progress
>class selection screen appears, but all classes are available
>choose heavy
>level loads in
>stare the first heavy in the eyes
what the fuck, did saber disable class restrictions in the latest patch, or was the host running some mod?
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>>496851879
but the balancing is actually different. weapons just do different in those modes, its weird. bolt weapons kill 1 elite slower then a aoe weapon killing 3+ at once.
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>>496856578
Once you get to Purple carbine is surprisingly okay, it has to shoot a lot but the TTK isn't that terrible.
However, since you have to shoot a lot it might have the shittiest ammo economy of them all. It's one of the guns where I actually have to use ammo perks instead of living crate to crate.
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>calls people brother
>old warrior
>racist
He'd make an excellent astartes. He even has the imperial fist colour scheme.
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Strange color glitches I found
Vanguard Chaos shoulder changes the whole arm as well
Making your chest either quarter or half pattern makes the tertiary color really pop sometimes (best example I can think of is dlc blue + Corax white tertiary on vanguard chest)
Can't find where to buy the single stripe helmet pattern
Chaos have a secondary color for their packs while loyalists do not (ignoring the half pattern)
You can paint the power fist the same color as your arm
>>496807060
It is a shame to see even here on the dudewall the Lamenters are in a sorry state. I grinded out the wins in PvP and have finally made my own Lamenter to my liking, for the wall. Please take care of him; it was a very hard choice between Lamenters and Storm Wardens
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>>496858005
He already is, dumbass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VXUDlcr0qI
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>>496857651
well, it’s even weirder when you consider that marines are default equipped with knifes in the tabletop
chainswords cost additional points to equip
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>>496857651
It's baffling because before Primariscucks and their Reivers Astrates Combat Knifes were the tactical melee of choice.
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>>496858005
Hulk Hogan was secretly the model behind Rogal Dorn.
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>>496851214
bulwark is retarded strong
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>>496858530
>bulwarkcuck
>heavygawd
Keep telling yourself that, you fucking nigger. Stay in your fucking lane.
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>>496858530
Bulwark is good at surviving.

Bulwark is not good at killing anything he can't immediately parry.
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What's with the sudden uptick of heavies being fucking assholes all of a sudden? I can't be the only one seeing this right?
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>>496858841
please read what a tripcode is and start using it
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>>496858041
Received, Brother. It's great to see such a good addition to Lamenters
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>>496858998
Suck my big plasma cannon cock you low tier trash
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>>496858140
yes but it's especially confusing when the game isn't even internally consistent with itself
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>>496858992
>I can't be the only one seeing this right?

Yes, you are the only one seeing it. You're also the only one spamming this (and previous) threads about it. And before you try ad hominem, Heavy was my 3rd level 25 (Heavy Plasma)
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>>496859304
>it's all one anon
meds
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>>496859189
dreadnought ass-breaking that ork always gets me
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>>496850123
>I don't even see the other teammates because I'm in the midst of the swarm, living my power fantasy.
At least one anon gets the true concept of the game. Based.
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>tdm
>i have a 0.3kd
>49-49
>vanguard flies over to me and hands me a free kill
>i am the clutch champion
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>>496850320
Nah, only filters gamepad player from Keyboard+Mouse players
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>>496858859
Bulwark doesn't need to kill, he's a safety net in case someone fucks up. Auspex Sniper can absolutely already delete anything, especially if Tactical has a grenade launcher to help him. Bulwark is there just to pull aggro, sit in middle of a horde deleting minor opponents with shock field parries and drop full heals whenever they're needed.
He actually offers an unique ability. Vanguard, Assault and Heavy don't.
Like, sure, if you play perfectly he's not really needed but neither is any other class, but if you don't play perfectly Bulwark offers a safety net of healing independent of map RNG nobody else can provide.
Of course this is metafagging about a game any class can run and win solo, so shiggy diggy.
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>>496850132
it was worse before the recent patch when minoris swarming you would delete all your armor instantly
now you can parry minoris for armor and when they do hit you it takes several of them to take one armor off so melee is much better
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>white scars scouts should only have the lightning bolt part of the icon
>can't paint it separately
Damn shame
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>>496859401
>there's one anon shitting up the thread for days crying about people making fun of primaris unprompted
>get dunked on by everyone else
>disappears
>there's suddenly one anon shitting up the thread for days crying about heavies unprompted
I sense Chaos trickery.
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>>496860057
Well good thing then Anon that Primaris don't use Scouts at all. No, Snipers or Vanguards are not Scouts.
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less nades would make pvp more gooder
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>>496860223
It is if I believe it to be so
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>>496859938
>Assault
Can nuke trash waves and clear the field for sniper to get to work. Double pound puts groups of 8+ majoris into execute state immediately
>Vanguard
Is also a safety net if we're talking survivability. He can stand in the middle of a horde bigger than yo mama and spam melta to wipe it out
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>>496860223
They literally have scouts.
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>>496860125
>doubles down
pharmacy for your daily prescribe
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>playing bulwark
>about to whip a bunch of nidwarriors into the ground, first one is about to get parried wich means the entire group is about to die
>tacticool launches nade from his bolter, staggers them and me
>they start to split off
>run in 3 directions
nothing bad happened but i fucking hate that weapon
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>>496860347
But the game doesn't have them. Only primaris in the light armor configuration. Scouts would have an armored abdomen
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>>496859938
>Like, sure, if you play perfectly he's not really needed but neither is any other class, but if you don't play perfectly Bulwark offers a safety net of healing independent of map RNG nobody else can provide.
If you are playing perfectly, it's a catch 22, because any other class in Bulwark's shoes would be killing enemies harder, and because you lack that, it makes the run harder.

Every time I've ever struggled with a Zoan, it's because a Bulwark was on the team and I wasn't pulling the metafag weapons out.
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>>496860585
>Scouts would have an armored abdomen
and we dont want that
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>>496860573
Hate melts niggers more.
Everytime I'm in melee they shoot the fucker I'm trying to parry.
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>>496860585
Yes but for further pedantry, the 10th company keeps a compliment of 10 Vanguard squads and as such the Snipers and Vanguards are also literally the Primaris Scouts.
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>>496859938
>Bulwark cope
So this is how non-contributors like to larp as, you'll never be as valuable as a heavy.
Enjoy being on the bottom on the next CC tier list.
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>Arguing about classes in PvE of all things
This is really an autist hobby, huh
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>>496842627
The soul as it's understood in 40k isn't the soul as is understood irl. It's just the reflection of your physical mind interposed on the warp. When you die, you are not your soul. The thing that thinks it is you lives in for a year and a day (unless you're a powerful psyker) and then dissipates back into the warp stuff it's composed from.
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>>496860609
>because any other class in Bulwark's shoes would be killing enemies harder, and because you lack that, it makes the run harder.
No it wouldn't. There's no practical difference between a Bulwark meleeing shit and Assault or Vanguard. Bulwark is arguably better at range with his Plasma Pistol than Assault and Vanguard since their ranged options are dogshit.
Heavy has better range but then he also has pretty meh melee, stomping is deceptively strong but you're stuck with shit parries and cannot really clear a close range horde with melee only, and you already have Sniper killing everything at range, so what's the point?
Minoris, Majoris and Lictor/Ravener aren't threathening to anyone really and all classes, including Bulwark can take care of them easily and for Bosses and Zoathropes you have your Sniper.
Heavy, Vanguard and Assault do not offer better killing potential than a Bulwark and do not have a special ability that is useful team-wide, Bulwark does.
>Every time I've ever struggled with a Zoan, it's because a Bulwark was on the team and I wasn't pulling the metafag weapons out.
Zoans die to Plasma pistol easily, when I was leveling Bulwark with randoms there were many times I had to kill Zoan/Neurothropes alone because both other retards were running Melta and didn't comperhend their mechanics to boot.
>I wasn't pulling the metafag weapons out
Okay. But this discussion is specifically about metafaggotry. If you are a metafaggot doing metafaggot things Bulwark is objectively better as a 3rd pick than any other 3rd pick class.
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>>496861379
keep coping bulwark faggot, you will never be as useful as a heavy.
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>>496861535
I wouldn't dream of being as useful as a Heavy because then I'd be fucking useless. That being said, aren't you false-flagging right now? I thought you were against Heavies just a while ago.
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How do you build yer fusil?
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>>496858140
>before Primariscucks and their Reivers Astrates Combat Knifes were the tactical melee of choice.
still is?
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>>496861379
>No it wouldn't. There's no practical difference between a Bulwark meleeing shit and Assault or Vanguard
There's a fucking big difference between a comp of Vanguard Melta, Heavy Melta, and Bulwark vs. the same lineup but replace Bulwark with Tactical, Sniper or Heavy.
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>Hive Tyrant fight gives no armory data
That's bullshit
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>>496862294
It's particularly retarded since minibosses like Carni or Neurothrope can't spawn in Decapitation
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>>496861701
schizophrenic nigger.
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>>496862384
what? since when? im sure they did.
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All classes are as good as their player
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>>496862490
Maybe, it's rarer than normal? I never had one spawn in my ruthless runs
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>>496862384
They can but it's very rare I think.
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>>496862490
Never seen them in decapitation either
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>>496862474
>Accuse anon of falseflagging
>Gets BTFO with proof
*crickets*
Yeah thought so faggot. I accept your capitulation.
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>>496862384
>it's not a rage in the cage of the hive tyrant and two carnifexes versus your team
WHY DOES GW HATE ME SPECIFICALLY
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>>496863082
>1 has to 1v1 a hive tyrant
>2 have to 1v1 a carnifex
Not even papa smurf could do this shit
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>>496862293
>there's a big difference between meltanigger spam and meltanigger spam
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//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////
//// TO ; ADEPTUS RETARDES ////

-Submitting Dark Angels successor chapter.
-Guardians of the Covenant.
-Founding ; Unknown.
-Homeworld ; Mortikah VII, Segmentum Pacifius.
-The Guardians of the Covenant are as dedicated to the scholarly arts as to the ways of war. Masters of both, the battle-brothers of this Chapter use their keen intellects as a weapon as sharp as their Chainswords.

//// END TRANSMISSION ////
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>>496863810
The Gray Knights, but the r is silent
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>>496863583
The difference is Meltaniggers are as sure as the sun rises, you cannot escape the Meltaniggers.

You, however, can work around their faggotry, and picking Bulwark isn't the choice to be made.
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>>496861958
I question whats better, pure headshot or big high beam meme
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>>496864042
IMO it's wider beam. The headshot damage thresholds after the sweeping HP nerfs have made it seem like going all in on headshot damage doesn't make a real difference. With a wider beam, you not only get to fuck up crowds, the headshot hitbox is much more forgiving.
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>>496863082
>map splits 3 ways and each team member had to go down one path
>each has to fight one of the bosses, tyrant, neuthrope, carnifex
>you can see each other fight but can't help each other
Kino?
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I wonder why they don't spawn lictor alphas in the operations mode
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>>496862474
>>496863045
Are you retarded or do you not realise that none of those being a You could mean that they are still all the same person just not yourself
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>>496864384
would be perfect for a later operation boss
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>>496864480
I don't think it's tough enough to be a full boss
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>>496864467
Nevermind I am actually the retarded one
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>See 5+ enemies clustered
>Shoot them with the Multi-Melta
>4 of them die, 1 of them goes into execution state
>Cucked out of free ammo
Yeah, ranged boosts it is.
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>>496864616
maybe some sort of stage, where you have to fend it off and then put it in a incinerator, either as a midway point or endpoint
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>>496861214
Metafaggotry is peak normalfag behaviour these days, that's why so many of those "content creators" shill it.
A true autist would do something autistic, like maining the class that their favourite chapter would most likely use, no matter how good it is on the tier lists.
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>>496807060
I... am Stevicus of the Builder's chapter.
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>>496865752
>be NPC
>see "best was to play X"
>emulate "good gameplay"
>get outperformed by non-meta player
>seethe as you cannot comprehend why you are inferior
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>>496866030
>be NPC
>assume the game is all about shooting
>assume melee is for fags
>never parry never heavy
>what the fuck this game is bullshit
>don't realise you're playing the game wrong
>abuse melta glitch to enable your retarded playstyle
>it gets fixed
>still refuse to learn
>bitch about difficulty incessantly
>devs neuter the game
>tell any complainers to wait for the new difficulty <YOU ARE HERE
>bitch about the new difficulty being too hard
>devs nerf it again
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>>496865960
It's Jack Black! Poggers!
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>>496863810
>>496865960
Received.
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>>496866553
>melee
i think it says everything about the state of melee in this game that a class like vanguard with meta knife and perked up to his eyeballs with cracked traits can only carry melee from 'meme' to 'eh, it's alright I guess'
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>>496865752
>A true autist would do something autistic, like maining the class that their favourite chapter would most likely use, no matter how good it is on the tier lists.
Thats why my heavy is Imperial Fist and I only use the Heavy Bolter, because Fists love their bolters.
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God, the marksman version of the bolt carbine is absolute trash.
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Why do pubs on ruthless sperg out when they see a sniper?
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>tactical, assault, bulwark, heavy
relic secundus because they look sick
>vanguard, sniper
basic bitch blackshield deathwatch custom armor set because i fucking hate that their relic sets don't have proper helmets
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>>496867763
Get better
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How do you do, fellow loyalists! Brother Puritanus of Salamanders here.
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cant buy anything for my pve fucker because i need new colours
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>>496868514
>why do pubs do x
They're pubs. They're retarded.
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>>496868527
Just make a custom set using the relic parts with a helmet
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>still can't delete accidentally made sets
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why the FUCK did they give this faggot a cameo? he fucking sucks
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I am convinced they made the bolts WAY bigger than 20mm in this game. These things are like 40mm.
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>>496868882
this is a rangedchad game worldeater cuck
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>Give Tactical heavy bolt pistol and knife options
>Remove carbine and Stalker Bolter
Easy fix to make his weapon list more logical
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>>496869621
these are not your averag bolts anon, these are the new and improved Cawl-Pattern™ bolts
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>>496869893
Primaris are so gay it hurts.
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>>496869621
more big more kill
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>>496869748
>Removing literally one of his best weapons
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>>496868153
I don't know why it even exists when the stalker bolter is a thing.
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>>496869984
it really does
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>>496870347
not ennuf dakka
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>>496870347
>>496869984
>>496869893
>>496869621
>Grrr I’m not buying primaris slop nu 40k
>Buys it
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>>496869621
Those are for the integrated grnade launcher.
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Damage 11 Heavy Bolter when
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>>496870268
Stalker is a sniper weapon, it makes no sense for a tactical to have it
I don't care that it's good
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>>496869748
>Give Tactical heavy bolt pistol and knife options
>Remove carbine and Stalker Bolter
I'm with you.
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How do i play multi melta without being a nigger? I have a white MM and want to level it
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>>496870781
just play with it nobody gives a shit
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>>496869748
>Give Tactical heavy classic bolter, bolt pistol and knife options.
>Remove carbine and Stalker Bolter
>Give the Stalker Bolter to the sniper.
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MK VII helmet FCUKING WHEN
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>>496869492
Elaboration?
What's up with that fag?
Only know he did a dataslate in SM2 and a voice in RT
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>>496870889
THIS!
Also paint gaunlets separated from the arm FUCKING WHEN.
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>>496871039
God my Iron Hands guy wants this feature so badly too.
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Primaris aren't so bad but the helmet deviates way too much from what made the SM helmets iconic in the first place.
Gravis still looks really cool though.
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How do I play blockhammer assault? Is it even worth it the extra dmg?
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>Just did capture and control 200 to 0 with us winning
>final seconds some newbie heavy is about to run around my corner
>one tap him with a corner peaking fully charged hammer blast
That was absolutely heretical
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>>496871530
no, perfect parry into gunshot more than outshines the extra damage. Plus being able to parry multiple minoris, instagib them and regain armor while doing so is not worth giving up.
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>>496871530
>Block
Never, ever, worth it.
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>>496871530
Its fine. You just do heavy attacks mostly. Be careful when fighting bone warriors though since they have a lot of HA during any attacks. Also yea you will lose out on a lot of armour from parrying chaffs. You have to learn how to dodge and get gunstrikes from heavy. Block weapons in general suck but i feel like hammer is one of the ok ones.
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>>496835419
you can set up OBS replay buffer or use nvidia shadowplay, i had to stop using it because it would produce black screen footage or no audio. fucking aids
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>>496871039
>>496871389
>Crimson Fists
Boring and also nobody cares, it isn't worth the effort for just one successor chapter of Imperial Fists.
>Iron Hands
Literally who?
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So i did some testing with the auto bolt rifle since its the one weapon i never see anyone talk about, and holy hell its trash. I managed to get it to relic and it absolutely blows.

For some god forsaken reason, a 10m headshot with the common ABR only does 34 damage... When you max it out, that becomes... 40. Holy fuck, how is that even possible? And get this - headshots are multipliers, which i have reasons to believe is 2x damage, so that means going from 2 firepower to 8 only resulted in an increase of 3 damage. No wonder people think the bolt rifles suck - they probably started with this shitty as gun!

Just for illustration, 40 damage puts a termagaunt into red state - it doesnt even kill a chaff in a single shot.
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>>496872176
If you happen to have AMD their ReLive is basically Shadowplay, even superior in some ways (but worse in others).
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>>496872490
Where did you get those numbers from and are there more
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>>496848935
that would be me, glad you like it lol
i fixed most of my issues by just putting all graphical settings as low as they will go, might just be placebo but even texture settings seem to affect it
ive had an inkling it was server issues as well, it's hard to really know
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>>496872490
I like the big bolter with lots of ammo i just spray and sometimes things die
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>>496869621
God I wish bolts were depicted as massive fuck-you grenades instead of the piddly 5.56 we're stuck with
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>>496869621
When GW lore was ever consisted with their models? IA says Leman Russ tank has 120mm cannon, but the mini one looks like it's straight from the German railroad howitzer.
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>>496852074
ive had this happen to me several times in different matches, can't see a fucking thing of their model but they can shoot me, i think its a perfect cover peek. it's bullshit but what can you do
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>>496870582
Well on Sniper the ammo economy isn't good enough. You need everything in its tree regarding boosting total ammo size, the ammo regen perk, AND Tactical's Majoris kill refunds ammo perks working in tandem to make it last through gaps between ammo checkpoints.
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>>496872638
The ingame score, unfortunately. I take a shot (the best i can), and let myself be killed. Its the only way that doesnt require external tools.
>>496872668
The heavy bolt rifle is better. Actually its straight up superior! A common heavy bolt rifle does 40 damage by default! Tested with the same method. And that one has 2+ damage?? Yeah its proven - these weapon stats dont mean jack shit.
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>>496872490
>it doesn't even kill a chaff in a single shot.
Most guns don't, unless you're playing on easier difficulties
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>>496872964
Technical explanations in lore never made any sense.
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>>496873097
Headshot*
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>>496870582
>Stalker is a sniper weapon
It's a fucking bolter with a scope. It doesn't even look like old stalker bolters which had extended barrel. Besides people want to larp as Sternguards and both carbine and stalker allow that. Hard to understand why it would make anyone upset
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>>496873059
>The ingame score, unfortunately. I take a shot (the best i can), and let myself be killed
Instead of a sparring arena that is fun to fuck around in for like five minutes it really should have been a weapons testing area that shows actual damage values.
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>>496869492
He pays the devs a lot of money for it.
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>>496870582
>remove stalker bolter from tactical
>it never sees use again because there's no reason not to use the las fusil on sniper
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>>496873268
I want to larp as a black guy but they don't let me have a knife on my tactical.
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>>496873190
Yes
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>>496873401
Very disappointed that it wasnt a shooting range
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>>496870972
hes some twitch old fag that everyone respects because he was there at the heckin start!!! hes bad at games, he isnt funny and he sucks off every games studio no matter what ridiculous pile of slop they put out
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>>496873627
They don't even let you have Gold as a primary color
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>>496873268
>Literally X with a scope
Yeah, that's generally what a sniper is
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>>496872964
>>496873130
The IA stat books also aren’t canon out of being retardly bad. They said they were history guys but didn’t know how tanks work
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>>496850132
>>496849718
>>496850157
>>496850659
MAGAZINE IN
MAGAZIEN OUT
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>>496873909
Behold, a sniper rifle
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>>496850636
I do it because it's kino
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>>496874136
>barrel is rifled
>scope is mounted
Yep
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>>496849718
I used to be a pleb but now ive maxed vanguard its actually the most OP class. Its the only one where you can heal 10% on a kill which is massive, and I suspect when we get difficulty 5 it'll be one of the more popular classes. The team wide ability regen is also pretty peak.

I would be assault below vanguard, just because while gunstrike is nice it doesnt change anything for anyone.
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>>496873728
You mean most weapons dont kill homagaunts or termagaunts with a headshot?
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>>496874221
>>496874136
This is just like the blue vs purple argument we had the other day about the twitch rewards. Its subjective and just a naming convention its not defined.
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>>496873897
I just hope that'll come at some point, like Imperial Fists chapter pack or something. For now I'll live, Averland Sunset is shiny under the right light.
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>>496855613
>His playerbase is mostly made up of schizos foaming at the mouth
Not heavy bolter or plasma incinerator chads. Engaging standard morale boost: For the Emperor!
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>>496849772
People let their had of Phobos cloud their judgment, you effectively don’t need a health kit with vanguard
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>>496874265
They really don't on their own difficulties.
Even the guy using the stalker bolt rifle said he had to double tap heads.
>>496874368
It was purple
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>>496874373
>>496873897
Im 100% certain they will happily charge you $19.99 for a skin pack that includes gold which took a solid 30 seconds to "create".
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>>496874525
>>496874265
Thats bull. Most weapons one tap small heads. The ones that dont are purely uncharged plasma. Most people just suck ass at aiming.
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>>496874368
That's not subjective that shit is literally purple
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>>496874649
I think the bolt pistol one taps them into execute stance, but most bolters are weaker than even that
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>have to decide between dogshit melee controls on kbm or shit aiming with controller
Thanks
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>>496874535
And I'll buy. They know what they're doing, GW has been scalping people for almost half a century now,
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>>496874136
the scope is backwards
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>>496874815
Anon ive maxed all the guns. They all one tap, even the bolt pistol. The trick is to tap your trigger and not spray or fire rapidly because the accuracy penalty is strangely huge.
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>>496875015
Plasma uncharged isn't
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>>496854030
>>496854206
The blue attacks on whip warriors for example are first of 2 and parrying once only blocks the damage, you have to parry both attacks to even get a gunstrike.
Might be that.
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>>496874936
umm its not just doghit melee controls...all the controls are DOGSHIT. who was the gay nigger that put the ping system on T? i have to fucking go go extendable midget fingers across the keyboard every fucking time
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>>496874997
>He doesn't know about suicide sniper rifle
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>>496835035
Not that anon and you've probably already seen this if you're here frequently, but this clip comes from a 34 kill game if I remember correctly. I've got some longer clips that I can post when I get home if you're interested in seeing some less cherrypicked gameplay with all of my fuckups included.
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>>496874525
>>496874649
There is a relevation: smaller enemies that can be executed have damage caps - this is why i only see 40 damage on the termagaunts - because that is their damage/health cap. This ensures that they will be in Red state instead of being out right killed. Hormagaunts will be tested now

Warrior melee units also take less damage than the ranged ones - ive heard only 2/3 of the damage is dealt.
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>>496874525
>>496874713
I honestly thought you guys were just trolling by the point that guy posted the exact color hex which was blue but i guess you just chose to ignore that lmao
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>>496875303
Wait am I a retart? I've only played assault once or twice to be fair but I thought you had to hold in the air temporarily before you could slam down as sort of a 'balance' feature, can you just tap to do it faster or something?
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>>496875523
It's a twitch drop, it's literally supposed to be the same purple as the logo and no amount of ingame lighting brightening it to a blueish tone will change that
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>>496875303
>skilled assault player
Based. Yes, please post more.
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>>496875564
you can if all you care about is movement. It's a charged attack so the longer you hold it, the more damage it causes
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>>496875564
It does less damage if you don't let it fully charge but you can still do it after a short charge
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>>496875662
Not all Twitch drops are flashing their own logo, and you're fucked if you think GW was going to be ok with them putting a goofy ass pink rifle into the game and not something accurate
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>>496875794
It's purple
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>>496875564
NTA but you do more damage with a fully charged dive at the cost of floating in the air exposed for a longer period. The way I look at it
>target unaware, full armor
>charge it
>target aware, damaged
>dive asap
>target aware, full armor
>shoot him a bit with the pistol and dive
>or run away and reset engagement, try to flank him
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>>496875854
Nta but imo not red enough to count as a shade of violet, more a blue with a reddish tint
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I love the game but to be honest there was a lot of jerking off about it being just like le old days but I still see
>items you can only get by preordering
>items you can only get by buying the super paypiggy edition
>items you can only get by buying the "season pass"
And worst of all
>items you can only get by watching some other faggot play the game on stream
Yeah dude it's just like the good old days where games were full products.
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>>496875951
It's either purple or you're a heretic defending impure blue colours
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>>496875854
And it definitely isn't the twitch logo
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>>496876127
>And worst of all
>items you can only get by watching some other faggot play the game on stream
gets worse:
>skin you can only get by subscribing for money to some other faggot playing the game on stream
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>>496876127
Funny thing is space marine 1 had specific marine skins tied to preordering at big box stores, like Best Buy was the only place for black Templars
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>>496875523
>>496875662
>>496875854
>>496875951
>>496876184
>>496876201
It's most obvious on the fist because it's the laziest one where most of it is still blue.
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>>496876127
>>496876250
>open tab of some loser
>mute tab
>do whatever it was you were doing before
Complaining about twitch drops is dumb. It's trivial to get them without actively watching streams.
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>>496876127
Pretty sure all of this, except for Twitch drops, was already in the late 360 era.
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>>496875303
this reminded me of a question i had for you fellas: in pvp when some fucker starts spamming melee i know you can parry, but it doesnt give you an attack opportunity does it? every single time it happens to me and i parry the enemy just keeps spamming and it seems they still get theirs off before me (even though i parried) what else am i meant to do? rolling away they seem to just lock on and melee you during the animation
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>>496876127
40k glazing that’s it. The game is tolerable enough and 40k means it can do anything saber must be hitting themselves for not doing full GAAS because they would have 100% gotten away with it.

Chuds who say they hate nu40k would still defend it too
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>>496876184
I got your impure blue right here
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*is a twitch drop in your path*
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>>496876201
Black and white skull is the closest they can get and still recieve GW's OK stamp.
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>>496876406
Anon-kun you're reading comprehension
>by subscribing for money
The watching, while annoying, is one thing butt he subscribing shit is fucking awful.
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>>496876389
>It's most obvious on the fist because it's the laziest one where most of it is still blue
Because the fist, aside from the inset logo, is actually blue
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>>496876634
I'd be fine with it as long as it's not a paid Twitch drop like the pistol was.
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>>496876634
gay beak freak a leak
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>>496876634
Not beaky enough
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i just drank so much orange juice i feel sick...but i still want more...
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>>496876389
i just want to let you know, regardless of whether you're right or wrong, that you smudging various colors across images is not convincing anyone
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reminder that if you use the beaky helmet you are automatically joining the beaky blinders whether you like it or not
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I'm 33, what the fuck is a twitch drop
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>>496876127
>He wasn't there when you could get in-game items by redeeming codes in magazines
>He wasn't there when you could get in-game items just by being around at certain times of the year
>He wasn't there when you got a super duper rare item for pre-ordering
Shut yo 16 year old ass up bitch
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>>496877134
Reported to the inquisition
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>>496870582
Primaris™ Intercessors™ have it as one of options
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>>496877252
>HURR HURR WHAT IS LE ZOOMER THINGO??? I AM SO MATURE AND UNAWARE HEHAHEHAHA I CAN NOT GOOGLE I HAVE TO ASK BECAUSE IM SO OLD AND FUCKED IN MY BRAIN!!!!!!!!!
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