surv as a concept is just too intellectual and high-brow for the average /wowg/ poster

>>539426237
Post logs

>>539426237
and most the playerbase it seems.

>>539426237
Then please explain for the class why a hunter would need to throw point blank bombs every 10s?

Healer is seriously easy mode, logged in, didn't take vault, only 711 ilvl while everyone is 713/714, queued for a 3 boss mythic raid run while I only did 2/8, got taken instantly.

>>539426267
you don't want to see my blue and purple heroic parsies
>>539426289
good
>>539426404
we throw them a lot more than that, sent is more like every 4-5 sec

>>539426428
wtf really? it hours for me as a dps

>>539425176
frost 2H is comfy as fuark but it has every talent point locked down save for 1, so much for choice

>>539426127

post the full one... or sauce... coward

What are some battle pet combos you guys like? I'm making due with triple mechanical pandaren dragons

>>539427154
3x nexus whelpling

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>We've asked 100 wow players that the worst thing in WoW is....

>>539426036
love wowg anons so much!!!

>>539427345
For 99 points we have
>M+

>>539427345
maze

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>>539427345
NIGGERS!

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BUSSIN mog

Thank god Fellowship open beta starts soon.

>>539427345
IS the answer maze +?

>>539427519
Would have been insta buy if there was an option to have that bra without the black trash bag.
But ofc blizztroons gotta keep it woke

>>539427527
>Hate wow maze plus
>excited to play fellowship maze +
maybe I'm the problem.

>>539426036
can you still opt in for midnight beta? where

>>539427519
>blizzard refuses to expose tummy
i hate the left so much, first charlie kirk now this.

>>539427345
pvp when bad

>>539427968
don't waste your time beta testing for free bro

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YFW NO BIMBODOREI GF IN YOUR PLAYER HOUSE

>>539428306
all public betas are fun to hang aroundd

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>>539427968
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/midnight
outside housing and the new spec, is there anything really worth testing?

>>539428383
Nope, but $90 dollarinos pay to test that cucks will happily pay for like the mindless sheep they are

>>539426404
>survival
>a survivalist
>throws bombs point blank like a retard
>Melee range constantly
>Weapon of choice is a 2handed Sword, a heavy as fuck halberd or a very heavy metal stick
How are any of these things what a survivalist would do? Bow and arrows are effective hunting tools and for close-quarters wouldn't a machete be more useful being able to take apart shrubbery while also being light enough to carry comfortably.

Really what were they thinking.

>>539428383
different people are gonna test different things, housing alone is definitely worth it.I'm interested in profession changes for jewing on release and the pvp battleground and training mode, a lot to test desu

>>539426428
if you can pull 4.8m+ on plexus you are basically guaranteed to be useful. Every single mythic pug without fail has some deadbeat healer who cant do anything, my one this week the 4th healer died 1min into the fight and we 3healed the rest of it.

>>539428464
furthermore, bombs are shit for a hunter, survivalist or not, they ruin the pelt.
I like survival as a spec, but it's not a hunter spec. Could've easily been a warrior or, hell, more fittingly, a Rogue spec.

>>539428597
>I'm interested in profession changes for jewing on release
Remind when people found they could DE some vendor bought item and spent weeks hyping up some profession's shuffle only for it to be nerfed by blizzard instantly in shadowlands. but go off king.

>>539428383
>>539428462
>split expansion into three different parts and call it a saga
>split expansion features between these three parts
>split dungeons and raids to make expansions look bigger than they are (split raid into three parts with 6, 2 and 1 boss raids of usual one raid with eight bosses)
>ask $90 for each expansion
They've could done one big expansion and asked $90 for that as a base but no.

>>539428597
>I'm interested in profession changes
What changes?
Afaik the only change is there's no 5 levels of quality but only 3 and that's it.

>>539427154
3x Anomalus shitstomps most fights in the game

>>539428672
I didn't even play sneedlands and I can already tell that was obviously a bug, why would you be able to disenchant some cheap vendor shit forever it would kill part of the enchanting profession. Besides, that has nothing to do with what i said, i'm going to see what's gonna sell more and less and plan on what to do on release

>>539428739
>split expansion features between these three parts
lol what features? Between Dragonflight, TWW, and Midnight the only real new feature is housing.

>>539428882
https://www.wowhead.com/news/relics-of-the-past-vendor-shuffle-nerfed-in-latest-shadowlands-ptr-build-318420
No idea but it was a funny sight to see so many people get btfo at once, now I just wait till it hits live.

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>>539428307
Not my problem.

>>539428897
>TWW: delves
>Midnight: housing
>TLT: whatever it is going to be
Dragonflight with flying

>>539428610
>furthermore, bombs are shit for a hunter, survivalist or not, they ruin the pelt.
There is a use case, at long range for very large game. There historical use of explosives to kill whales, and lets be real for a second while the game is very fantastical the concept of survival is a very realistic angle. The original alpha concept of survival in legion at least made alot more sense, being a heavy emphasis on traps and turrets.

I do agree it makes sense for a rogue spec to be that way, but they were in the mindset of rework every single spec in the game for legion. The guy who reworked survival originally was very proud of his achievement and proceeded to leave blizzard immediately after

https://www.wowhead.com/item=186646/darkmaul

Had the massive displeasure of navigating Korthia when trying to get the fucking mushrooms that are fucking placed in most obnoxious of places for the mount, hope whoever designed Maw and Korthia got fired

>>539428739
>Dragonflight: Dragonriding, 3 new specs, 1 new archetype, 1 new race
>TWW: Delves, 1 new race
>Midnight, housing, 1 spec, 1 new race
You're right.

>>539428749
see >>539428882
even between df and tww the "only change" (announced) was inspiration changed into conc
but then df and tww professions are still a lot different than each other in how the whole thing works

why do you keep replying to yourself and crashing out on someone asking for a public beta, sybau
even trying to paint dragonfligt to have more content than tww or midnight, how lowly can you get

Schizo is here...

>awful vault
>awful cache
>not a single piece of loot from the 4 mythic dungeons either
Hihihihi lolololol such a fun system :)))))))))

>>539429205
>Dragonflight: Dragonriding, New talent system, 3 new specs, 1 new half a race, an new archetype that shaped the entire meta for over a year
>TWW: Delves, 1new race, hero talents
>Midnight: Housing, 1new spec, 1new race, apex talents
Please at least be honest with your retardation anon

>>539429019
>delves
Like 1/4th of a dungeon but for 1 person
>housing
Cosmetic shit half the playerbase won't interact with
>dragonriding
Flying mounts moving faster is hardly an expansion feature

Legion, BFA, and SL had their fair share of issues, but at least they where actively attempting new things that massively shook up the game. I am so fucking sick of this safe uninteresting slop that is DF, TWW, Midnight, and likely TLT.

>>539426428
>queued for a 3 boss mythic raid run while I only did 2/8, got taken instantly.
Maybe you had orange healer logs because your previous group was retarded. Gz on vault tho.

>>539429665
People are 2 healing first boss right now, but pugs still die to lack of healing with 4 healers, getting someone who pumps is generally wise

schizo post lmao.

>fall behind on gearing due to shit vault/raid loot rng
>no one will invite me to high keys anymore
so pretty much i can only raidlog now
epic great amazing
great design

LOL I LOVE SELLING MY HEROIC CACHE LOOT AS VENDOR TRASH LMAO AWESOME

>>539429626
I just forgot about the talent changes, you're right, though DF had a lot more changes than I thought.
>>539429636
Delves and housing don't seem like exciting content, but I think they're where blizzard plan to spend developing because they've given up on trying to get casuals into mythic or raiding. and assume raiders and mythic players happy as it is.

>>539429636
All of these ideas could have been included in one expansion.
BfA could have been a complete expansion if TWW had been included instead of being made into a separate expansion just for the sake of creating a saga.

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as someone who plays on and off, parsing is such a transexual thing it's almost funny, but it's mainly pathetic
it's like, dpsing is such a boring, retarded role that you all competing in some third party website to get better at something that literally does not matter since you are for 99% of you all, stupid brown shitskin shitters that either pug heroic and the first 4M boss, or less
if you were some rwf poopsocker I can understand wanting to be perfect since everything matters, but for the average delving subhuman or brown pugger??????
just do ok dps and kill bosses you fucking transexual freaks HOLY SHIT, and on top of that, it creates a cancer community and some people will get flamed or denied because of "le green parse" while the dude was probably playing for the team and avoiding puddles and shit
thank god I play tank but jesus christ

>>539429793
Don't worry, bro turboboost will save you.
>>539429948
Yea parsing is for the mentally ill, taking is serious is retarded especially after you figure out you can manipulate the logs and people will wipe attempts to get better parses.

>>539429948
even if you clear full mythic parsing doesn't matter

TLT is most likely filled with unused DF and SL content because of the connection between Dragonblight and the undead, the Lich King, and the afterlife.

>>539429636
Niggy, housing is the biggest feature since m+ no matter how much you try to downplay it.
Also adding what's basically a runescape skill with Prey (and likely better) is also new
Also training grounds and a epic battleground is pretty big for pvp-wise content, these expansions actively ruined pvp
actually most of these "new features" (it was one per xpac don't kid yourself):
>Legion: artifact weapons
shitted on on release and everyone hated it after the honeymoon of getting it phase passed, had to be wiggled with for the entire xpac for them to be fun and not just poopsocking grindfest, legiondaries are more of the same
>BFA
literally same as legion, a piece of gear that had to be grinded to unlock shit power and REMOVED TIER PIECES FOR THEM TO WORK, then you have warfronts which were non-content and that's it, the only good thing was war-mode
>SL
nothing here was good and there wasn't much to begin with anyway, torghast got good at the tail end of the xpac, shitted on before that

can't just add for the sake of adding or you end up with shit systems such all the previously mentioned
holy shit it's literally the you think you do but you don't meme

>>539428597
>profession changes
they changed something?

>>539429793
>be me, normal and well adjusted human being so I played other videogames
>step back slowly since week1 since I'm getting a bit burned out
>go from 8 10s a week to a casual 10 then log off for the week outside of my concentration slave world tour for money (made 3millions since week 1 for 10minutes of work 2times a week)
>absolute shit vaults for 4 weeks now
I'm actually fed up with the system I'm ngl, I think m+ should reward myth gear starting from 12, and make the recruitment even worse, I'm done waiting an entire week for a little piece of equipment, bliz can suck my dick with their carrot and stick bullshit, just farming gold from now on so I can play for free forever

>>539430201
>biggest feature since m+
since delves?
what the fuck is prey?
why do people give a shit about training grounds? did no one play wod?
I'm excited for the epic BG.

>>539429793
>Loot progression not being consistent and fair isn't an issue because the game isn't pvp like league
>The pvp in wow in question
Yes it has always and will always feel like shit. My main is 3 ilvl below my alt now because my vaults are shit (I got myth track head last week being my only good drop). I'm really starting to feel like it's high value to make 3 of a class you want to play and just play vault slot machine. Which is a very cringe thought

>nigger priest need on item he doesn't need
>I'll trade you bro, give a tip though
>I trade 5k
>"no bro add a 0 at the end"
Fuck off you fucking rat, I'm not playing your game, you either give me or bring it with you in the gas chamber.

>>539430337
>I'm excited for the epic BG.
It's going to be another fucking PvE BG and you know it

>>539430201
>BfA
Add TWW and Midnight allied races as well as features like delves, war and fighting between Horde and Alliance, and the whole Old Gods and Xal'atath theme and you have a complete BfA expansion right there.

>>539426036
Lads, I'm 33, I'm playing arena, listening to Breaking Benjamin and 3 doors down, this game makes me feel young again :)

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>>539430337
>did no one play wod?

>minigamers can get max ilvl gear from afking world content
>meanwhile actual pvp aka pve PUH VUM PERS are locked behind several time gated systems and weekly vault/raid lockouts
defend this

>>539430541
what the fuck are you even trying to say

>>539430491
People did play wod the problem is no one kept playing wod. the training grounds just reminds me of wod system that flopped.

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>>539429626
This is all so pathetic when you compare it to Legion
>1 new class with 2 specs
>4 new allied races
>artifact weapons
>legion legendaries
>mythic+
>world quests
>class halls
>new honor system with pvp talents
>5 raids
>entire zone dedicated to one massive endgame storyline
>transmog now saved to a collection upon pickup

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>>539430541
BUT ITS UNFAIR WHEN I JOIN A BG AND A POOPSOCKER 2SHOTS ME BECAUSE I HAVE NO PVP GEAR!!!! BLIZZZARDDDDDDDDDDD

>>539430541
I cant defend it. its fucking bullshit.
>>539430606
blizzard shill

>>539430201
>Niggy, housing is the biggest feature since m+ no matter how much you try to downplay it.
It's not even out yet calm down hot stuff. I kinda agree with the anon that housing will be kinda overrated, but I'm waiting to see how it plays out (if it's anything like og you get a house and that's the game for like 2 weeks and then it's abit of an RP feature beyond that). Tbh I think the choice of refusing to tie ANY power or convenience to a house might end up being a bad choice but we will see.

>>539430253
I haven't had a good vault the entire season. I still have the Araz trinket on LFR with having killed Araz on week 3.

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I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO 2SHOT YOU BECAUSE.... I JUST SHOULD OKAY

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>>539430201
you are a coping blizzdrone, it will be doa trash like garrison but you can customize it yoohoo, no neighborhood, nothing like xiv, just an instanced bullshit you can 'invite your friends' in, aka nobody
no one will care about your stupid house and what color the chairs are, no one is social in wow, it's a videogame made by, and for underweight dad gamers, people taking this game seriously are neets and/or monogamers
who the fuck will you invite in your house you stupid ass bitch?????? big John the trucker that works 60hours a week and delves sunday afternoon before going back to work?
pablo or kareem that are botting all day, using tsm scripts to make money to sell it just to make their miserable lives a tiny bit easier?
autistic mythic raiders like dratnos that only care about autistic shit???
and dont tell me the mount collecting faggots will give a shit after the honeymoon period of things being shiny and new
it's a shit feature and only a rotten mind that monogames this absolute trash of a videogame could like
as for the prey, it will be another trash shit that rewards garbage stuff and everyone will stop doing when x.5 hits
stop coping motherfucker

>>539430380
>i'll trade this item you need to give a tip though
Holy shit these cockroaches are somehow going even lower and getting more scummy and are now asking for a """tip""" instead of their usual bullshit selling tactic?
These vermin need to get removed from the planet.

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>>539430475
>Earthen: Azerite, Magni and Azeroth connection
>Haranir: Azeroth, The Great Sundering, the missing link between trolls and night elves, Zandalari trolls

>>539430835
I fucking hate that we can trade gold across realms and shit because of this.

>>539430541
I will stand on the unpopular opinion that stat templates were good and making pvp gear annoying to get and manage is bad. PvP should be a "I hit lvl 80/90/100" let's do some 3s with pvp rewards basically to help them make gold or transition into the pve later on.

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>She got twoshot in a battleground
Giggling at you hard. Give me the name of the guy who killed you so I can let him hit it for free.

>>539430541
if you play pvp in any shape of form in a mmo you deserve to suffer, just play a real videogame you fool

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>>539430380
this is why we need to bring back personal loot in non guild raids, these niggers are ridiculous.
I hate the faggots who say shit like but but but loot worked like this in 2004, yea and fucking stores didn't need to have a lock on most the stock in 2004.
people are fucking shameless these days.

>>539430541
>puh vum pers
You got me with that one ngl

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>>539430987
>hit it for free.
As opposed to WHAT
I FUCKING KNEW YOU PANDOIDS WERE ALL SLAGS BY DEFAULT

>>539430983
With how easy it is to get full pvp gear we basically have stat templates again right now. The only people at a disadvantage are the giga noobs who have no clue crate farming exists to get your gear fast.

>>539430824
>it's le bad x50, I'm smart btw
quality post

Housing is just Garrisons 2.0 with Shadowlands covenants like renown system.

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>>539431057
Uhuh. Very interesting, anon. Oh dear, it looks like our time is up for today. Wanna pay to extend our date? Who knows, you might just get a kiss after dessert.

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>>539430965
Haranir are just Na'vi from avatar.

>>539430998
The need greed system has always incentivized people into needing on all items. Remember the saying all loot is hunter loot? Everything happening now is just a repeat of the same shit that's always happened the difference is items don't have vendor/de value that was noticeable like they used to so now they just sell to other people

more bimboasstitspussysweatfuck'dorei

>>539431104
keep eating shit goyim, buy the pig too

>>539431209
More like Garrisons 0.5. House doesn't even sound useful?
SO I can spend hours of my life making a pretend house no will visit?
At least garrisons you could fight invasions with your bros, and it could be used as a production base.
also yea REALLY looking forward when 50% of the house items are locked in the store. At least garrisons had ZERO fucking microtransactions attached.

>>539430653
>listing bfa allied races
>half of that wasn't on release
>the other half was shitted on during 2/3 of the expansion
legionbabs... don't feel so good...

>>539431101
Yeah but personally I don't want to waste time crate farming basically, it just doesn't feel fun to me (it's also not pvp) and I'd rather do things that are fun to me all the time. It also is a layer that I don't think adds alot to the enjoyment of the game (also I really don't think anyone is doing some really tricky shit nowadays with stats like swapping from mast/vers to haste/vers for XYZ matchup)

>>539431101
>>539431452
how do i crate farm?

>>539431370
>Garrisons 0.5
Actually yeah, more like that.

>>539431487
Be alliance (important) open up custom group find go down to the bottom option (custom) look for things listed as crate farm. It will be a 40 man alliance group

>>539431370
>>539431495
concern trolling used to be believable

is metro autistic? I'm genuinely asking
He speaks normally and seems to be a functional human being, but he also seems to be bad at the game, and has some weird neurosis like the excel sheets, making justice videos about people ruining keys (been done since legion)
I feel bad for this little american fella

>Haranir
still mad. dozens of great choices and that''s what they go for

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>>539431219
LOOK AT THIS SHIT
ANOTHER NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF PANDOIDS AND ANOTHER ETERNAL REMINDER THAT WORGEN WOMEN ARE ACTUALLY WAY BETTER

>>539431574
Horde does even more crate farms just because a 40 man raid is the ONLY WAY they can ever win a crate.

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>>539431702
>tranny race with tranny hair

>>539431702
what are you gonna do? make a reddit post and keep paying thirteen real life currency? the devs are actually the chadest devs of them all, they do whatever the fuck they want because they know players are unhinged

>>539431639
It could just be they don't find any value in housing compared to garisons.

>>539431689
non high functional autism

>>539431370
I mean look this is actually my thoughts about housing in a non-ironic non-troll way. Garrisons were insanely useful so people wanted to be inside their garrisons all the time, if for example my housing district is next to goldshire, and there's no reason to be there at all I really wonder if it's gonna be as popular as anons make it out to be.

>>539431689
Metro is without a doubt autistic, but I don't think he's bad at the game. He just chooses to spend most his time playing in pugs, he could probably get tittle or 3k or whatever easily. I think he prefers playing golf but his attitude to wow is healthier than anyone in this thread and he's never really hated the game so I guess he keeps playing.

>>539431859
>if it's gonna be as popular as anons make it out to be.
I wish we had flags here, so you could see who make those dumb posts, it's common sense to know housing will be an half baked """"""""""""""feature"""""""""""""

>>539431413
Even with all your nitpicking it's still 10x the content of DF + TWW + Midnight combined.

>>539431797
worse, i'll make a single "im mad" post on bhutanese goatherding forums and continue not even playing the game

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post gamers

>>539431923
>could probably get tittle
Do we watch the same keys?

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>tfw buyed boughted

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Pssst anon……

(super squirt day in 2 days)

>>539431923
can't really see if he's good or not since he keeps playing his shit spec, if he played pwar or vdh I could more clearly tell if he is a shitter or not, I only played bdk back in leejun

>>539432048
I genuinely don't think anyone gives a shit about battle pets anymore

Thoughts if BfA was BfA + TWW + Midnight?

i am hecking mad

>>539431859
>I mean look this is actually my thoughts about housing in a non-ironic non-troll way.
All of you guys are way too concerned about getting psyoped.
Housing will be shit, but it doesn't eve need to be good to appeal to the people it's targeting.
A large subsection of the play base does not give a shit about pushing keys or CE raiding.
It's like the mole people twitch speak shit, players just cannot fathom that people play to mountmogcheevo and cannot understand why someone would play a game to not be challenged and just enjoy the dopamine rush of collecting.
Housing will be a half-baked piece of shit offering no really new gameplay, but still satisfy people for two reasons.
1. wow players each shit, and you know this is a fact.
2. collection fags get more shit to collect and even better, they can transmog their entire house, which keeps them subbed.
It's a shit system but wow players have no standards and will 100% love they can play the sims in wow.
same reason people pvp in this game, same people m+ in this game. raiding is like the only thing you could have a better experience in another game, these fucking guys are wowheads, wow is their fucking life.

>>539431859
you're literally sovlless

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Pumping.

Jaina Proudworgen
Jaina Pandamoore
Jaina Proudraenei

>>539432442
He's right about garrisons you know, they were useful.

>>539431957
Look my only comparison point is OG and I own a large plot in the mists on tonbaz, and I've owned it for about 2 years now. My house is an afk spot only because I can teleport instantly into any content with how the duty finder works in OG. If my house doesnt have all the features of being in the city (crafting benches, crafting orders person, upgrade vendor, auction house, bank, easy access to the relevant world content) I personally cannot see myself spending much time with my house other than the time I spend MAKING my house.

>>539432378
>housing will be shit
it would be the best MMO housing if Wildstar didn't exist
what is this cope, do you have any idea about other games, talk about
>bro wowheads only play wow
yet you spit the most monogamer shit ever

>>539432446
orc property
her childhood was spend getting "kidnapped" by ashenvale woodcutters at least twice a week

>>539431859
>there's no reason to be there at all I really wonder if it's gonna be as popular as anons make it out to be.
They said the same thing about delves, all blizzards have to do is put loot behind housing.
Here, I'll do it for you.
-every day you get a random house guest, he gives you a special quest and depending on the items in your house you can influence the rewards.
-random outside part of your house is a garden for herbs or a blacksmith where your leaper gnome slaves make shit.
-ever week you can have tea party and get bonus rep for being a good host.
ahh, but if you do that people will cry
>BUT I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO DO HOUSING
so what do you do?
Make it vault track now you can do outdoor content instead of housing.
look at torghast, look at islands, look at delves it's always the same patern.

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>>539432518
based

>>539432619
>yet you spit the most monogamer shit ever
>the best MMO housing
The only people who give a shit about mmo housing are people who only play mmos. If you're only playing mmos you likely only have time to play 1. don't talk to me wow andy you missed the entire point.

watchie~
https://youtu.be/hWM3oEhJ8vw

>>539432803
I accept your concession, pretentious monogamer faggot. Play more games before calling out on people "playing one game"
Even if it's the same genre or not

>haven't healed once since og cataclysm
>boosted rshammy
>totemic
>actually like it
is this normal wowg? i thought healsluts were supposed to be bad

>>539432829
I wish I lived in japan the price of the sub and wow token seem great!
why is this grown women dressing like a jk

>>539432446
Worgen property. She gets her ass knotted while being choked out daily.

>>539432904
fool

>>539432687
Oh yeah I don't doubt that shits gonna come eventually. I would actually enjoy housing more if I got cool features based on how I wanted to do my house. I liked the part about garrisons before people figured out how to optimally make one, just figuring out what was good was fun to me.

>>539432946
wait until you learn how many good and cheap restaurants there are.

>>539433004

If only...

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>reshii boots with avoidance in vault

>>539432446
Post a pic from behind and I'll pump hard imagining eating her ass

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>>539433674
>S: Corruption, Essence Powers, M+, Titanforging, 40man raiding, Dragonriding
What moron made this tier list?

>>539432442
I'm realistic about my behaviour, and the behaviour I think that extends to a lot of people. SMV and lunarfell is one of the most kino places in the game, but I don't afk there because it's insanely inconvenient for me to be there, and obviously alot of people think that way because there isn't a lot of people in the zone at any given time either.

I'm not sovless (buzzword btw) I'm just not convinced their stance on no convenience will pan out insanely well. Housing will be 150% praised to the high heavens when 11.2.7 drops but when 12.0 drops I think most people will be in silvermoon (unless there's housing in quel thalas then maybe)

>>539433829
Corruptions were based, it was F U N chasing loot

>>539432912
You never play totemic with tier set btw it's a dead build

>>539433674
>Tertiary stats in the same tier as glyphs
Tertiaries literally made loot gay and cringe (nooo all leech gear must be on healers and all avoidance on mazies!!!)

>>539433674
>retard-list

>>539431713
God i want to run my fingers through her hair and ears.

What if Zuggling poster started slopping

>fixates on meaningless stuff
>gets upset at definitions
>hates any form of change even if it's good
>follows a strict schedule

dude is 100% without a doubt on a spectrum

>>539434557
I thought that was the nelf dh
Either way we we don’t need more of those, we need more anthro sloppers

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>young
>ripe
>dragon

>>539430486
Got to 2100, holy shit :D

>>539434895
still the best wow youtuber by a country mile.

>>539435580
We need more of these kind of sloppers
https://youtu.be/FjUYO9jEieo?si=sfZ0WZyg2oN2Dc78

>>539435990
*yawn*

>>539432596
I played the free trial of og and housing there is great because of erp and porn emotes and being able to lock the doors, for associal dudes I dont really see the point maybe outside of what you mentionned, that's pretty much why I know housing will be a big flop, regardless of what wowbucks say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU3I2RQyHjs
apparently hunter is super good? how come i never see them doing good damage in my pugs though?

why cant i buy like one week of a sub
i dont want to waste a whole month on worlo

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anons come help me :(

>>539436576
isn't it bfa content? can't you solo it 3 expansions later? or do you need to queue to get inside

>>539436238
I'm pretty social personally but the way my social behaviour manifest isn't in game, its joining a discord call and chatting. If you are on a non-rp realm (basically the vast majority of wow players) I can't imagine housing to be that impactful long term if it's just a dollhouse.
>>539436189
It's kino wdym
>Chat, type 1 to save stratholme type 2 to purge

>>539429948
How to parse in the top 5%

>get bis
>be in a good group that maximizes dps
>focus entirely on dps don’t bother wasting a single gcd on silly things like defensive cooldowns battle rezes dispels off heals speed buffs etc
>if there is a phase like in dimensius where there are multiple mobs that you can ignore, don’t bother playing properly just spam aoe… it’s probably best if you have a group lead that will purposely delay ending the phase so you can do more completely useless dps

Congrats you just dabbed on the browns and now have a tranny discord gf

>>539436671
Yeah it's bfa content, I need 10 people to queue for the heroic version

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I think he quit again

>>539436761
>I can't imagine housing to be that impactful long term
utterly deluded
women and failed men love pointless time sinks

>>539429948
If you play tank and not getting 99 you are clinically retarded btw.

>>539436924
He realized Microsoft is cannibalizing Blizzard 10x faster than Bobby was and jumped ship before it ruined his life again

>>539436761
>I can't imagine housing to be that impactful long term
Okay Paul Krugman

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>>539426036
.

>>539437381
Okay write what you think the average wow player will be doing week 2 of patch 12.1.

>>539437542
40 m+ dungeons on each of his 3 alts

solo DPS player tired of infinite maze+ queues. convince me to play tank or healer

>>539437542
I guarantee you that some of them are gonna be messing around in they houses

>>539437852
Play tank or healer

>>539437667
I mean if thats what you think your Abit out there.
What I imagine
>World content mountmogcheevo system
>Couple of keys
>Some Melvin
>Lfr and maybe normal

https://youtu.be/pnmAbX5hfQA

IT'S OVER

housing will be a huge boost to the economy. elf players are the biggest paypigs in the game and they're going to want 1000 of every elf furniture item. outland profession mats will explode in price

>>539437852
>ppal
total paper
>pwarr
decent tank but shit offspecs if you ever get bored of uber'ing
>rdruid
dogshit for pugs, undertuned offspecs
>rsham
I guess it's okay but you're the babysitter which sucks, at least you can swap ele
>non-meta tank/healer
lol, lmao

tldr give shaman a try, otherwise stick to dps

>>539433287
me on the right

>>539437667
Anon I don’t think you understand just how casual most of the player base is. Literally 1/3 of wowhead profiles timed a single m+ dungeon last season

https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=40949/the-war-within-keystone-explorer-season-two

The real number is much lower too

>>539436761
I'm tired of Arthas and AI slop.

>>539438113
why is rdruid shit for pugs? isn't moonkin usually good in m+, this season notwithstanding? what about priest? hasn't disc been historically good to meta?

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>>539426036
Did assassination get ruined or something? I’m doing dog ass damage that matches my parse.

CRT - 37%
Haste - 15%
Mastery - 61%

My single target is only around 3.2m and the patch work parse hits 3.5m. My item level is 700 exactly. I got my tier set and 704 weapons. wtf is my class dead?

is ilvl 679 good enough to start doing m+? I'm a healer if that matters.

>>539437862
Doing what exactly? Construct the use case

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>>539428383
i think this is pretty much it + misc stuff like transmog updates or improvements to the group finder to make it easier to get into groups

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>>539436924

>>539438313
>why is rdruid shit for pugs?
pugs are dumb as rocks and take tons of random damage out of absolutely nowhere, which makes proactive healers like rdruid kind of a shitshow. it's not as bad as it was in the past but it's still pretty bad
boomie is usually good but what does it matter when now it's kinda shit? unless you're a one-trick you should swap season to season, both for fotm (ie no queues) and dont-you-get-bored reasons
>priest
don't

>>539438481
+ apex talents

>>539438530
>don't
genuine question but why? is it the lack of interrupts?

>>539438481
ngl if they fuck up addons I'm bailing on worlo
I cannot imagine playing m+ without plater
I cannot imagine spending shitloads of time progging mythic while having a half-assed ui, ie no WA

>>539438313
Rdruid is a high effort spec. If your just pugging where a million things can randomly go wrong rdruid isn't the greatest in that landscape. Moonkin is shit.

You generally would prefer to play hpal/disc/rshaman in pugs over druid if you are just doing 10-14s.

>>539438723
>ngl if they fuck up addons I'm bailing on worlo
Off you go then. Goodbye.

>>539438723
you might not even need plater anymore
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzards-nameplates-in-midnight-are-better-than-we-thought-important-casts-378401

>>539438704
>utterly shit mobility
>boring to play
>no interrupt
>dps spec is almost as directionless as rogue, and sucks dick more often than not
don't play priest unless you're a dedicated healsissy doing mythic

>>539438481
Literally all of this could have been a single patch

>>539438723
You are aware that Blizzard is banning combat addons in Midnight, right?

>>539438808
As a healslut: there is zero chance blizz is capable of replacing my autistic plater + cell setup. Playing a game where difficulty steps from clunkiness rather than execution is a total deal-breaker.

>>539438867
>>539438779
makes sense. so if i'm looking to play a support spec with a usually viable DPS offspec, is shaman the play? do any other healer/tank classes usually have playable multiple specs, even in a raid setting? i don't mean the "lol any spec is playable!!". i mean something that's worth bringing to an m+ or raid environment. my ideal situation is i tank/heal in m+, and dps/heal in raid.

>>539438313
Legit Pug expert here

You need a healer that can do massive group and spot heals. Specs like disc are tuned for high levels of play where the group is only taking moderate sustained damage and there is no one face planting mechanics right after a massive unavoidable group damage phase. Also the tank is often 20-30 ilvls what they should be and may or may not be using any defensive abilities. Mistweaver used to be great for pugs but they nerfed a bunch of the abilities.

Pro pug healing tip:
Never ever let someone get below 90% health. This is completely opposite from good groups where you can benefit from certain abilities function better the lower someone is in health. Also never ever do damage unless you are 100% sure the group is pro or you are disc/holy

Tanks I’ve discovered that spec really doesn’t make as significant a difference as it does with healing. Just be a good ilvl. The secret to tanking pugs is you have to gauge the abilities of the group and pull appropriately. Too many tanks brick keys because they decide to do mdi tactics with a bunch of shitty geared non meta specs played by people who don’t know the dungeon well.

I play a night elf brewmaster, female.

Thoughts?

>>539439212
knot

>>539438704
Disc is good up until the point where you die if you get bolted. Disc is the squishiest healer with basically no defensive. They are actually ultra smooth brain to heal with right now but you just fall apart if triage exceeds atonement output (atonement is like REALLY good however stuff like HoA 2nd boss bleed is too strong for atonement past like a 14).

HAPPENING!!!

NEW MANDATORY WATCHIE JUST DROPPED!!!

https://youtu.be/p7hlfO3peyk

>>539438914
??
>>539439026
well another thing to test is their goal to simplify encounter and class design. less mechanics, less casts, mechanics have a longer timer before they trigged so you can react naturally instead of relying on WAs because of tight timers, and less procs and buffs to manage for your class
personally this is what i'm most interested in+the UI updates

>>539433287
>patreon for generic AIslop
>doesn't even care to fix mistakes like jainas hair color
>hides the hands on purpose
jeets are getting too arrogant with this shit
actually, who the fuck even pays for this?

>>539439101
>>539439275
what would you two recommend then?

>>539439101
>>539439275
also see >>539439050

>>539439050
>do any other healer/tank classes usually have playable multiple specs, even in a raid setting?
rdruid or rsham
hpal... maybe
>tanks
bear is the only one that has good offspecs imo, but bear sucks
maybe veng? either veng or havoc are usually decent, sometimes both

maybe I should just cage myself until I complete my seasonal goals

>>539439446
The modern man has 16 concurrent subscriptions and 0 hope of buying a house or even a new car in his lifetime

>>539439050
Warrior or shaman are the only 2 I can think of. Fury is actually a high A tier spec if you play phys comp, prot war is the best tank in the game for m+.

Ele shaman is a high A spec as well but slots into most comps and is good utility and rshaman is the best healer in m+ and an okay healer in raid (I think both priest specs are kinda bad, pres is OP and the other healers are brought for raid buffs)

>>539435990
based fr fr

>>539439275
Undergeared disc priests who are not experts in the class are a nightmare in pugs. I haven’t played much m+ this expac but it appears to be the same.

If you want to try disc, delves are a great place. I played every healing spec a bunch over the years except for disc because I’ve found it very difficult to keep up with the raw healing needed in pugs as disc.

And I laugh at the people that think you can do damage as a healer in pugs. People bite mechanics 24/7 and even wasting a single gcd on a damaging ability can cause a wipe.

>>539439446
you vill eat ze bugs and masturbate to AI

>>539439779
Warrior dps specs tend to be as desirable as gonorrhea

>>539439594
Play a meta spec if you want to do keys above 10-12. I’m not an expert in the recent changes because I have played very little m+ in tww, but if I had to suggest something for lower key pugs I think holy priest has the type of raw healing output needed for pugs. You can always switch to disc if you want to do higher keys.

>>539439863
>Undergeared disc priests who are not experts in the class are a nightmare in pugs. I haven’t played much m+ this expac but it appears to be the same.
If you haven't played m+ this xpack why are you typing at all? It's significantly easier healing as disc this xpack compared to previous ones.
>If you want to try disc, delves are a great place
Lmao awful advice. You learn nothing from playing delves aside from keybinding abilities which you can do in the open world.

Also I laugh at the healslut memes. Maybe in decent groups, but in pugs you often literally feel like the father of 4 kids who are running around screaming banging their heads into walls etc. abd you are doing your best to make sure they don’t get seriously hurt.

>>539440171
True, there's so many of them walking around you really aren't gonna get much time to shine if you play it

>>539439613
Druid has historically been dogshit in raids. Moonkin and Feral are bottom feeder specs, especially Feral. Moonkin is usually good in M+ but excruciatingly boring to play. Paladin sucks and you're a homo if you play Ret. Shaman and DH are the best options healer and tank respectively.

>>539439779
>warrior
Phys comp has rarely been played, hasn't it?

>>539440505
It's not just the numbers. There's 3x as many frostniggers and every single one of them will get 5x the invites you get. Fury just doesn't provide much of anything useful, and even your piddly warrior """utility""" is provided by pwarr.

I'm still not inviting any fucking fury warriors to my groups. 10% chance they are actually good players, 90% chance they are fucking spastics.

shaman is basically the mage equivalent of hybrid classes. it'll always have one of its three specs viable, if not outright meta

>>539440363
You can practice your rotation and get used to the skills in a non solo environment. It’s like telling someone shooting threes alone isn’t going to make them a better basketball player.

And I’ve played enough to know the fundamentals of the class hasn’t changed. They may have buffed healing but disc still doesn’t have the type of massive spot heals and group heals needed for pug bullshittery. The ones it does have are on several minute cooldowns.

>>539439445
no

>>539440687
Shaman tended to be gutter trash 80% of the time and it only changed when skyfury was added
there were entire expansions where all shaman specs were trash and the only reason you ever played shaman was SLT and to act as mana battery in raid

>>539440487
It's a state of mind type of thing

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>>539440910
Look at this healslut

>>539438316
Rogue sucks ass and im tired of niggers pretending its good. Shit got nerfed so hard its not even worth touching

>>539440530
>Phys comp has rarely been played, hasn't it?
Yeah but I would say it's under played but there's a good chance for brew/war/X/hunter/shaman comp to become more popular in lfg. A big issue was monk specs were super garbage for high keys so phys comp didn't get to pop off.
>>539440236
I don't know why niggers keep shilling holy priest it feels genuinely harder to heal (you need to heal quickly moreso than have insane throughput). If you need more triage healing you can just play Oracle disc (which I personally played for all my week 1 10s but swapped over to VW once I got tier)

>>539440859
>and it only changed when skyfury was added

and every since then, it's had one spec always be in the meta, or right on the outskirts

>>539441075
>brew/war/X/hunter/shaman
why in the world would you take brew tank instead of warrior tank in a phys comp

>>539440792
>Practice your rotation
The rotation in question
>Mindblast smite smite smite smite smite smite smite smite smite mind blast smite smite smite smite smite smite smite

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>>539440910
I blame poor people for the healslut meme…, the same people that think 50k a year as a cop is “good money”

>>539440859
we need to go back to that.
total shaman death.

>>539441202
Because ww is shit, and mw is probably shit, and fury is actually a pretty high performer right now.

Bigger question is if you are a prot warrior why aren't you playing with a fdk arcane mage hunter/shaman like every other prot warrior?

Druid's only relevant spec is Resto. Monk has no relevant specs. Paladin and Warrior only have Prot. Shaman has all three specs somewhat viable. Priest only has Disc. DH has both specs viable, and likely a third in Midnight. Evoker has no relevant specs. DK only has Frost.

If you agree with that then you're functionally retarded.

>>539441075
If you are doing week 1 10s what I said doesn’t apply to you. It’s for people like me that play all 13 classes or dudes like him that start 1/4 of the way through the season etc

>>539441261
the real paycheck as a cop is being able to bully everybody you dislike with zero repecussions. there's no better job on the planet if you hate niggers than a cop
the money is just an extra

>>539441289
>its ok when mages are op for 20 years straight
get fucked nigger
shamangods are here to stay

>>539441029
That's what I'm saying it's a state of mind type of thing, like tops and bottoms

>>539441458
More poor town talk

Cops are lower than dirt in rich white towns. People treat them like shoe shiners.

Any addons that tell me when players are missing basic shit like tanks not using mitigations without having to learn that classes spells. Just had a paper tank in a +8 not even soothing mist + em + viv spam could keep up. His ilvl wasn't great either but he blamed me.

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>>539441435
>people like me that play all 13 classes
jfc

>>539441471
kys nina

>>539441657
you're in shitter bracket so I'm not sure why you're expecting competent play
if you're a healsissy you want to track their defensives with customized omnicd anyway

>>539441657
details will show you what everyone used on what and when during a fight. You can make deductions at best but it will be obvious if they are not doing something right and you play the spec before.

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>>539441458


>>539441657
Are they melting
Check dps meter for damage prevented

>>539441458
>there's no better job on the planet if you hate niggers than a cop
More like becoming a cop guarantees that you WILL hate niggers

>>539441435
You literally press less buttons as disc and achieve more than holy I don't really see the argument. I am 100% on board with the idea disc priest is the 2nd most pug friendly healer for low keys and all disc glaring issues only show up the higher you go. I genuinely don't even look at my frames when healing as VW disc it's that breezy (outside of the occasional dispel)

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>>539441926
If you work in a town with niggers

4chan is so fucking out of touch with certain places in America. People that grew up upper middle class pr even middle class in nice areas don’t give a fuck about Jews or minorities and see cops as colossal retard fuckups that were too stupid to get into a decent college

>>539439709
do it :3

>>539441940
>disc priest is the 2nd most pug friendly healer
not without a kick they aren't

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>>539430824
what's your mom's name? i'll turn my house into a sex dungeon full of fem KT alts named after your mom that will be there just to pleasure me whenever I want. might even pimp em out if the coin's good

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>>539442152

>>539441940
Discipline Priest can feel a bit tougher in pugs at lower Mythic+ keys compared to other healers. A few reasons why:
Atonement style healing: Your throughput depends on people having Atonement active before damage happens. In random groups, players don’t always use defensives or avoid avoidable damage, which means you’re scrambling to cover mistakes.
Damage to heal: If your DPS rotation isn’t tight or fights end too quickly (as happens in low keys), your atonement healing may feel underwhelming compared to a more reactive healer like Resto Druid or Holy Priest.
Learning curve for pugs: In low keys, players expect “spot healing” rather than proactive ramps, and Discipline isn’t built for constant single-target topping unless you plan ahead.
Mana management: In low keys, fights are short, but if you’re overcompensating with Shadow Mend/Flash Heal to save careless DPS, you can run dry quickly.
That said:
The lower the key, the less damage patterns actually matter — so a lot of Disc’s nuance can feel wasted.
Once you get into higher keys where damage patterns are predictable and you can plan ramps, Disc feels much stronger.
If your main goal is casual pugging low keys, you might find Holy Priest or Resto Shaman smoother. But if you want to stick with Disc, it’s definitely viable — just expect more stress in chaotic groups.

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>>539438808
>can't change name
>can't change colors
>can't rescale bars for specific mobs
>can't change cast names
>can't change cast color, to automate interrupt tracking
>cast bar has a bunch of textures which occlude spell name
>no option for stackable bars
vast improvement over default ui, vast downgrade compared to plater
it's pretty much over for tanks/healers

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So I never paid attention to these before. Flaming enemies in delves are like the Doom Eternal thing where this particular enemy killed someone I may or may not know, which pretty much makes them stronger than the others in the area right?
Because if so, top kek to whichever idiot died to a spore, but also, how the hell do you make a nemesis out of a suicide bomber?

There should be a pure AOE boss. Just 500 adds with a quadrillion HP each and everyone aoeing the shit out of everything for 5 min. I bet it would be more fun than current bosses

>>539442341
Yeah but let's be honest for a second a vast majority of healer retards in low keys are NOT kicking anyway so it does not matter at all. I do think rshaman is the best but it's not even because of the kick, they can just vomit buttons every pack to make people live and have lust so they are instant invite

>>539442628
Kinda surprising we never got the aoe version of Patchwerk

>>539442543
look at that frog go!!

>>539442682
>uhhh it doesn't matter if you have a kick because you probably won't use it anyway
mental illness

>>539442712
and he will be named dungeon slice

>>539442152
Haha
Imagine

>>539442829
A kick would not suddenly make disc pug gods

Their entire healing style centers around the group not face planting mechanics 24/7

>>539442682
if you aren't kicking then you're actively griefing the key you spastic

>>539442389
Is this a chatgpt argument? Pretty much everything written is clinically retarded including calling rdruid a good reactive healer

>>539442946
>Their entire healing style centers around the group not face planting mechanics 24/7
and kick helps a ton with that

>>539435990
that's too hard to do.

>>539442989
Yes, you can tell because it's written so formally, defaults to a list format and has the cursed emdash

>>539442989
One might assume that — this being wowg — people using en and em dashes, as well as proper grammar, there's probably tomfoolery afoot.
In conclusion: lol lmao

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> Dpscuck back talks me
> leave and find another group in 30 seconds

>>539438946
wait what?

Am I doing okay as a healer if I have second most interrupts, a billion damage done and the only deaths are unavoidable

>>539442989
Rdruid has the ability that consumes a hot natures swiftness and those tree/swarm abilities they add and take away every patch

Disc has like a big group heal on a 1.5 min cooldown and ascendence or whatever

>>539443254
This is why I kick pandas out of all my groups
>>539443278
blizzard desperately wants console money, or at least some fresh players money. This is done at the cost of sweaties, which make up half the existing playerbase, so it's a somewhat questionable strategy.

>>539443337
if you didn't waste gcds on damage they would not have died.

Playing anything other than the meta is fucking retarded. Play Shaman, Mage, or DH and you'll almost always have a spot in a meta comp or be sought after by raid teams.

>>539442989
>sees well thought out logical argument
>MUST BE CHAT GPT

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>>539438946
>Blizzard is banning combat addons in Midnight
no addons?
no purchase

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>>539443434
>doing the fight without a healer
ngm

>11.0.5 was largely recycled vanilla content
>11.0.7 was recycled BfA content
>11.1 was brand new
>11.1.5 was recycled BfA content
>11.1.7 was brand new
>11.2 was brand new, albeit hastily cobbled together from cut Rootlands zone
>11.2.5 is recycled Legion content
>11.2.7 has no content unless you preorder Midnight, arguably not even a TWW patch at this point
So we're on the 2nd expansion of the "new and improved content distribution" format that relies on the minor patches to keep us busy, and we're already seeing them resort to almost entirely old and reused content for them

Is 694 a good ilvl for +10 keys for a beginner?

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>looks at you
how do you respond?

>>539443768
people were doing 10s on day 1, with no tier set, so you'll be fine unless you play with other trashcans

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>>539443631
Yeah but it comes up at least partially ai generated

>>539443768
Yes but it doesn't matter because there'll be 50 guys at 710+ queueing for their vault + weekly.

>>539443631
no, it's chatgpt because of the structure and the fact that nobody uses em dashes

>dataminers already saying there's been no server movement like there usually is suggesting the alpha is even coming out this month
And Midnight is already behind schedule immediately following the reveal!

>>539443886
What if he uses a grammar addon that just corrects his spelling and punctuation.

>>539443741
Wod content desert: three raids new zone expansion feature over 1.5 years

Sl/df/tww content avalanche: exactly the same thing

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24223311/midnight-get-up-to-speed-with-user-interface-updates

ADDONSISSES BANNED

>>539444037
blizz is too retarded jeet to solve UI issues

>>539444037
I don't understand? yes wow needs better qol. but when they updated the UI they didn't ban bartender and dominos why ban combat addons?

>>539443952
Behind schedule if you believed the bullshit about it coming out in January

I said it wasn’t going to be released in January and the entire thread dogpiled on me and started shitting their pants

March-may release probably April

>>539444118
they dont need to make something new tho. They just need to do what Bilzz always does, copy what someone else already did.

>>539443998
WoD had no repeatable content until its single real major patch and even that wasn't that great. No M+, no world quests, no open world activities, basically just one Apexis daily quest and that one Nagrand elite rep grind. M+ alone probably would have salvaged WoD considerably

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>>539444037
>hmmmm some people really hate addons, what do we do?
>oh let's just intergrate the addons into the game lol
this is tarded
also being able to customize your UI is how half the clunky specs in the game can even function so it seems really fucking weird they're doing it. having good default options is fine, deleting the APIs on which current addons / weakauras depend on is mystifying

>>539443997
What if you scored higher than an esl ms13 goon on the verbal section of the sat and didn’t go to community college

>>539444037
it basically looks like elvui with blizz skin so maybe i don't need any addons anymore

>>539444298
Three raids
New zone
Expansion feature
1.5 years

Zzzzzzzzz

>>539443997
Grammar and punctuation checks don't use em dashes try again

>>539444348
>no ability to turn off things you dislike
oh lawd have mercy, are we really getting RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL as the DEFAULT THAT YOU CANNOT TURN OFF ????
I should find a different hobby

>>539444194
weakauras do far more than bartender. they'll leave qol, cosmetic addons in but combat addons will be nuked. dbm, big wigs, WA

why raid? genuine question

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>>539444037
This honestly looks good IF we can customize what buffs/debuffs we see. If not, then pvp is actually unplayable.

>>539443640
Even if it's only combat addons?

>>539444691
For better gear, which than makes you godly in all the other content. Then you can add the enchant to turn them into scaling PvP gear and shit on niggahs with your full mythic raider PvP set

>>539444678
Well of course they do more, yes. but my point was you still had the option to use them despite them introducing their own solutions. Nuking all these add-ons at once just seems strange, they've been around for almost as long as the game itself, minus a couple of years.

>>539444691
https://www.wowhead.com/item=242401/brand-of-ceaseless-ire

Best tank trinket is on the council fight, so tanks have to raid whether they like it or not

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This is how wow should've move forward after vanilla:
>Lore of tbc is completely rewritten. No space goats and demons being aliens from outer space retardation.
>Alliance gets high elves, horde gets blood elves.
>Worgen is not a separate race (utterly retarded and makes no sense) but a unique acquirable trait for human characters through a quest line.
>More similar traits that enhance role-playing aspect of the game and add more individuality through player's decision over his character can be added to other races.
>Wotlk introduces class-progression with dk being one of the paladin's next-tier class/spec, similar to how class progression works in Lineage 2. All other base classes get their own next-tier class/spec.
>Instead of boring dk starting zone player gets a cool class quest to become dk, where your character dies and is reborn as a dk.
>Similar cool class quests for all other next-tier classes/specs.
>No pandas. Panda was a singular comic-relief character in warcraft 3, making a whole ass continent around a comic-relief character and trying to retcon it into being "cool" and "serious" is retarded and gay.

>>539444037
I can't stand the new UI and this shit only makes it worse

I don't want to play retail anymore

>>539444876
So a bunch of racist dog whistles

Don’t believe the jeet meme there are people working at blizzard with English degrees from Harvard that probably work as part time script doctors or write press releases for the state department

They know