Welcome to the Dragon Quest General! Everything related to the Dragon Quest series, also known as Dragon Warrior, is discussed hereUnder the Sea EditionLast Thread: >>542632616>News• Dragon Quest Smash/Grow, a Roguelite RPG for Android & iOS. Closed beta runs from October 14, 2025 to October 21, 2025.• Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake. Launches October 30, 2025, on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Dragon Quest VII Reimagined. Launches February 5, 2026, on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.>Now Available• Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince. Available on Switch, PC, and mobile.• Dragon Quest Builders. Now on PC with all mobile port QoL features.• Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai. Available on PS4, PS5, Switch, and PC.• Dragon Quest Treasures. Available on Switch and PC.>Other Updates• Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of Fate. Officially announced, title revealed. No further details yet.>Guides:• /dqg/ Beginner's Guide to Dragon Quest: https://imgur.com/gallery/kE7vCn2Versions to Play/Buy: https://pastebin.com/TcW5bgqv• DQM3 Resource: https://dev.metalkid.info/DQM3/Monsterpedia• Dragon Quest IX DLC/Treasure Map Searcher: https://pastebin.com/Paf0Ypme• DQB2 Resources: https://pastebin.com/ykdKc201• DQX Resources: https://pastebin.com/kE3XGQNS>Links:• ROMs/Hacks/Mods/Translations: https://pastebin.com/QbQS5i2S• Anime/TV: https://pastebin.com/a2cRRuzi• Music: https://pastebin.com/NceqwLAa• 日本DQ Wiki: https://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/• DQ Art, Guide Books, Non-H Doujins: https://pastebin.com/GnaCV4vW>OPhttps://pastebin.com/RSbUEyfQ>BROTHERS IN ARMS>>>/vg/eagg/
Are Hoodlums men or monsters?
We died. WE FUCKING DIED!
>>543620305Yes.>>543621646>Thou art dead.
Anyone excited for VIIR? I am excited for the voices and graphics, but don't care for the UI, puppets, DoF, kiddification, or dumbing down of the gameplay even further. I was wrong about the FFT voice acting and found it really enjoyable, so here's to hoping DQVIIR voices are half decent.
>>543622526>or dumbing down of the gameplay even further
>>543622917They got rid of the puzzles to unlock the saint equipment, so they'll probably streamline it even more.
>>543622917The battles were steamrolled as soon as Maribel learned Boom as well and could nuke all the enemies on 3DS.
>>543622526Not really, not after they were confirmed to be removing entire storylines from the game. Filler or no, they were still part of the overall DQ7 experience, and they could have easily moved them to the optional pile instead of just removing them outright.
>>543623110>>543623424sounds like autistic bullshit on par with the guy screeching about healing on level ups
>>543625468I agree with the autist, if you get free MP recovery, there's no point in interacting with inns, recovery items, or prayer rings.
>>5436231103DS already did that>>543623424Same thing happens in PS1 once you get access to classes.
>>543625732except that only happens like once a dungeon or something, unless you somehow get level ups every few battles or something? How does that stop you from having to interact with inns, recovery items or prayer rings? (the latter two being so sparse and so unreliable i bet most don't interact with them anyway)Besides, in my experience what really stops that is simply the numbers being tweaked specifically towards never needing to do that, not "free" heals. Like for example i'm playing the newest rune factory game and even on hard mode you basically never need to heal simply cause the numbers (damage received, enemies' health) are too low: installing a mode that multiplies those numbers suddenly makes the game more engaging in that sense (i'm using one that multiplies both by 4 times, and it's still not that hard). Like take dark souls for example: its perceived "difficulty" is all down to enemies potentially killing you in a few hits no matter what, even though the games still gives you lots of healing opportunities, and dare i say the equivalent of free heals on level up by getting to bonfires that heal you and refill all your items, but the point is that the battle damage is skewed towards actually mattering and actually making you go "i need to use this and that". The game eventually leaving you without juice when you're 3/4 in a dungeon is just padding to make you backtrack and double the play time, cause otherwise you'd be done with the game "too quickly" (and even then, backtracking and then getting back also means you risk overlevelling, unless you autistically flee from fights)tldr no
Does anyone here play X Online? It’s really good and worth it if you don’t.Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows more about how this hidden slime event works. Can I find them just anywhere I look or are they only in towns, only in fields, etc? Are they different for every player or is there some kind of list to look up?
>>543632402>Does anyone here play X Online? It’s really good and worth it if you don’t.that's nice but they don't want me to play it so i won'tt. yuro
>>543629821NTA but I had many moments in my draconian playthrough of 3HD where I'd be running low on MP on my healer(s), then they'd level up and I wouldn't have to worry anymore, or I would see that they're close to a level and I can just grind 3 more fights instead of evacing.
The free healing is only really frequent during the absolute early game which already tends to be face rollingly easy once you get boomerangs and the bang line. Around Level 20ish in HD on Draconian, exp gain slows down so much that you cant really bank on the free healing to carry you and enemies get strong enough that you have to regularly heal etc.The real issue is that its too easy to gather resources if you're diligent in finding sparkly/secret spots to the point that only ever spend cash on specific gear and items.
>>543637026ye and i don't see how that's bad, you saved yourself a trip back and having to redo the whole dungeon again by managing your resources. I don't think anyone in their right mind would say "yeah i would've liked having to backtrack instead!".Like i do get stuff like evac being 0 mp, that makes no sense, or them gradually removing the no zoom indoors thing (which is more about atmosphere than pure gameplay stuff), but the rest is just a good thing
>trailer video>Moonbroke did nothing but spam Insulatle and Magic Barrier on bosses
>>543638352She's a pure mage she has a lot more than that
>>543638595Its just funny because you see Cannock-kun using Kasizz, Kazap, Zap and Kazing so he was the MVP vs Basusu.
>>543638595So I guess to review from last thread on how the DQ2 gang will get DQ3's skills and spells doled out:>Midenhall - All Warrior, with some Martial Artist skills for good measure>Prince Cannock - Dabbles between everything, but excels at nothing. Has the requisite Zap spells in place of no-magic Midenhall>Moonbrook - Full Sage, period, but picks up some Monster Master skills owing to her canine curse>Princess Cannock - Gets all the weird and funny skills and spells that don't fit the others and is mainly support, but she's also the semi-Gadabout who potentially wastes turns being useless.Sounds about right?
>>543644859Hero - Cannock MWarrior - MidenhallMartial Artist - MidenhallPriest - Cannock M/MoonbrookeMage - Cannock M and F/MoonbrookeThief - Midenhall/Moonbrooke/Cannock FGadabout - Cannock FMerchant - ???Monster Masher - Moonbrooke
>>543645993I figure Merchant will get its skills split between the Cannocks and Moonbrooke.
Midenhall is a bit of an oddball not having any magic but I guess Ortega didn't have any either.
>>543647306Ortega is throwing Fullheals on himself during his fight with the King Hydra (until his MP runs out), plus he's shooting off Frizzes against Garboyle in the intro. Even he wasn't a no-magic brick.
>>543649546In the remake he only uses melee attacks in every fight scene
>>543625468>>543637469NTA but I think this is genuine difference in opinion. I like being crunched for resources. Healing on level up can tip things to be a bit too easy. I also would have preferred to have the puzzles. However I'm hopeful regarding 7R. Seems like the combat is modeled on XI which had good battles. I'm interested in the multiclassing. 7 3DS' class system did not work for me. I liked the PS1 version more but it's a bit too simple ultimately.
>>543647306I choose to believe he CAN use magic, he just thinks magic is gay shit for pussies and tells everyone he has 0MP.
>>543651053He has MP now in the remake but it's only used on melee abilities
"muscle points"
No dying.
>>543622526It sucks that it can't be perfect, but I am still fairly excited for it.I'm actually glad there's no class costumes, a lot of them were lame imo.
Why am I more excited for 2HD than 1?
>>543668852because 2 is the better game?
>>543669345kek, non-sensical shit list
>>543668852Because even with the extensions to the story, DQ1 is still ultimately going to be the short transitional episode between 3 and 2.
>>543671946>DQ3 sets up Hargon>DQ1 has Dragonlord >DQ2 makes the team deal with the true threat
>>543672902It's why I still intend to at least play DQ1 first. The way it's structured in the trilogy as the simplest plot of the three, jumping to that after 3 makes 1 feel meaningless.
>>543674671Horii remade them in the order of 3/1/2 on purpose. You cant assume that DQ1 will be the same Hero beats the Dragonlord and saves the Princess story anymore.
Speaking to Game*Spark (translated by Automaton Media), Dragon Quest 7 Reimagined producer Takeshi Ichikawa explained why the 2000 RPG skipped the remake queue, saying that "we felt that the game’s unique atmosphere and tone would resonate especially well with players today."Ichikawa elaborated, "When it first came out, 7 was often said to have more dark and sorrowful episodes compared to other entries in the series. But nowadays, players are much more accustomed to games with darker stories." And that thanks to that the producer thinks that through this new version, modern players will be able to feel 7’s story and the emotions of the characters even more deeply.”
>>543677491Honestly very weird that they removed parts of it when they think its a game that'll resonate with people better today than it did in the past. Especially when 100+ hours is like the expected length for RPGs and stuff now.
>>543679086>100+ hour rpgs are considered the normNo. Only certain franchises are allowed to get away with it.7 has always been a contentious game, to the point that even people like Hino from Level 5 complained about it to Horii.
>>543680348>Only certain franchises are allowed to get away with it.DQ11 was just as long as 7 though, both games took me 120 hours, hell act 3 bumped 11 up to 160 hours.Feels like every new RPG I play is 100 hours minimum, even things outside the genre like the new Zeldas have well over 100 hours of content, games on average are long as fuck nowadays.
>>543681132>games on average are long as fuck nowadays.If only, anon...
>>543681132Games these days are generally shorter
>>5436693459 and 10 belong in the shit tier and 5 belongs in S
>>543689170EAT THE LEAF CANNYCOCK
>>543669345Might as well post my own. B tier could really go in just about any order, but the rest are in order.
>>543681132yeah because you play them as expected. You take your time, you do everything (or most things) there is to do and most importantly you don't look up guides online. In short you're based and other people that think games are shorter nowadays are retarded because it's objectively false
>>543671946DQ1 is more important than DQ2 because Gwaelin is a cutie pie. :)
>>543689170Not the crab stance...
>>543681132DQ11 is almost 10 years old. Its hardly representative of a "modern game".
>>543681132New Digimon game averages around 40-50 hours. And that's doing all the side content.And part of me does wish it was a bit longer to fully get use out of some things in it.
>>543699459Well Metaphor and Persona 3 Reload were last year and both took me over 100 hours to finish.Elden Ring isn't that old and is over 100 hours.
8 days until I+II remakeAre you feeling it now, mr krabs?
>>543700721I feel my hair falling out.
Redpill me on the DQ2 3DS remake.I have seen people claim it is the best Monsters game.
1R should still be pretty short right?
>>543704490It will be longer than the original
>>543704490Short in like 20 hrs?
MIDhallCanCOCKMoonBARK
Cant wait to see all the Elves in the upcoming DQ games!
Frizz>Boom>Zap>Crack>Zam>Whoosh>Sisz
Bap>Shink>Pow>Blorp>Zoot
>>543714804A-anon I the E-elves t-they...
>>543714804They're not elves they're fairies
>Beat ZomaHow's the postgame?
>>543716869Considered Nintendo Hard in some aspects.
>>543716869Good in some ways, fucking awful in other ways.
>>543716869If you're on draconian I hope you abused the reclass stat boosts about five times before using any seeds on your party or you're gonna be in for a very grindy time.
>>543703229>>543703229>>543703229please respond
>>543720643There's no DQ2 3DS remake, the first ever remake of DQ2 is coming out in a week.
>>543703229>>543721447Ah shit I mean DQ2MEMM
>>543721447>the first ever remake of DQ2Anon...
>>543721516or DQM2fuck me Dragon Quest Monsters 2 Remake. Is it actually the best Monsters game?
>>543721643SNES version only came out in Japan unless you count that mobile abomination.
>>543722417Well, I don't only count versions that got overseas releases or we'd be talking about 5 and 6 first coming out long after 7.
>>543722417Okay but
I hope the helpful platypunk from Kenshin makes a cameo in the 1 remaster.
Post breakfast bump.
Only a week to go lads
>>543730512>no, we will NOT use Toriyama art, ever!what was wrong with them
>>543752704In the 80s they thought people in the west didn't like anime art or something
>>543752704DBZ hadn't reached popularity in the West yet, so the attitude was still very much "anime = unmarketable".
>>543741571Post breakfast bump...
>>543721803im biased towards dqm1, but i have yet to play the 3ds remakes for either
Do you get anything for having both HD Remakes on one console?
https://youtu.be/_8JyNzeTPpc?si=nRZw2t2OdNQgJq86DQ2 bros...
>>543774447Did we know about the succubat?
>>543776496Didnt they debut in 11?
>>543776626Yeah, but so did the Iron Maiden and I already knew the remake had one of those.
New 1 & 2 story trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad9ftV2fsHM
>>543779438Hargon WILL have friends!
>>543781516Story continues past Malroth into the Erdrea/DQ3 world?
>>543781516that text shows up for both 1 and 2builders CHADS rise up
>>543784934cutebrooke
>>543784934>Prince of Cannock is the pack mule
>>543785058
Moonbrooke curling up on the floorMoonbrooke gnawing on bonesMoonbrooke yapping at and chasing after squirrels
>>543784934nice reference
[good news] Nintendo has taken my money for my pre-order
Hargon is OUR friend.
>>543744819I'm starting to feel it
>>543782815it's caravan hearts' turn
>>543786213At least his coffin has plenty of item capacity.
>>543782815would be cool if they add something from those as secret bosses or something, like pic related
>>543818163>A single shitty castle literally named "Half The World"Should've read the fine print.
>The reward for having both games on the same console/steam are some dog/cat costumesEhhhhh, I'm not feeling having DQ1/2/3 on Steam desu.
>>543820456and there's also gonna be save bonuses from and to 1+2 and vii reimagined
>>543820607I want to play DQ7 Reimagined on a big tv screen not on a computer/laptop. I dont see the point in buying a Steamdeck either.
I am once again asking if DQM2 for the 3DS is truly the best Monsters game or not
>>543820932you do know computers can be hooked up to big tvs too right? Or alternatively doing what i do: use my hacked switch (but you can use any other hardware really, and there's plenty of choice of software too) to stream from my pc and then use the dock to hook my switch to the big tv. Visual quality is almost perfect (ironically my pc is the bottleneck i discovered, and only for really heavy games) and lag is only a problem for games that require very precise, frame perfect button presses, everything else can be played just fine. And even then it's nothing that really affects DQ games in any casebut anyway i don't want to get into some retarded discussion about what's ultimately personal preference, obviously you do you, hell the only real reason i usually play on pc is because of mods and the eventual piracy and that's it, like my pc's resolution is 1080p still cause i actually think i don't need any more than that
>>543822104>you do know computers can be hooked up to big tvs too right?I tried that once and the output was a very low-quality and unresponsive mess.
>>543822798heavily depends on what you did, what you used etc>ok but consoles are just plug and play ezi know, which is why i'm not saying anyone is wrong for using them, especially since i have and use them myself. My only point is that pc gaming can be had in a "living room tv + couch" way too, obviously not out of the box though
>>543822104>Do you knowYes, I do know.>Do I want to put in the effort instead of something that works out of the boxNo.PC's entire niche is primarily mods and I doubt DQ7 is getting any mods worth a damn.
DQ characters who would be PC gamers
>>543787959Moonbrooke barking all night at the moon
>>543828579
What do you guys think about Mature Quest? that game is huge and feels like a love letter to the Famicom games.
>>543821406Best DQM is the first one
>mfw turned on my switch to play donkey kong and 1+2 appeared in my games listI'm feeling it now, Spongeboy Me Bob
7 days until I+II remake.Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?>>543833829Excellent
I think I'm actually pretty excited for II because I haven't played it yet and it just seems more mysterious to me. Probably because it's an early installment in the series and those tend to be weird (in a good way).
>Anon casts Morebump
I'm gonna cast that on Gwaelin
>Hey King is it cool if I take your daughter to an uncharted continent and start making babies to populate the world with my glorious hero seed
Continuing the heroic bloodline is a sacred duty.
>>543857825Ew, is that the hero’s mum? Suddenly I don’t feel as bad for her.
>>543831726It’s the most impressive fan game I’ve ever played.The fetishes weren’t my cup of tea but I wasn’t playing it for the porn.Shame we never got a sequel, though I remember hearing the dev felt he accomplished everything he set out to do and thought a sequel was unnecessary.
>>543861432I was surprised I could enjoy a mostly 8-bit looking game. The squeaks and emotes were pretty cute, but the game got too tedious and then easy once you out leveled the mobs.I wasn't a fan of the corruption or cheating ending.
The jackpot subquest is fucking retarded even with the bunny girl trick and whoever thought of it deserves to die. I hate casinos in JRPGs so fucking much unless it's a game you can actually play like poker.
>>543863375Just keep betting full chips on 12 and 14 and you'll eventually get it.
>>543863580I already did it 30 times and even if I won a couple I haven't gotten a single jackpot.
>>543863845You're more likely to win if you bet on everything.
>>543864046That still doesn't guarantee jackpot.
>>543864248Never said it was. But a higher win rate means greater chances to jackpot. That's pretty simple logic.
>>543863845On my last playthrough of XI I hit the jackpot on my very first roulette spin it's random.
>>543863845>30 timesThose are baby numbers, you'll probably hit it after 200 times.
https://www.rpgsite.net/news/18774-dragon-quest-i-ii-hd-2d-remake-screenshots-introduce-each-game-new-gameplay-features>Cannock-chan joins early on as a guest and then leaves after her brother joins
>>543883791She basically a little helper while Midenhall is solo since he don't have any magic to cure himself.
>>543883791>>543887397>Prince Cannock gets cursed by Hargon at Beran like in past remakes>Gotta get an Ygg leaf to cure him, but instead of just one single tree tile on a tiny island, Yggdrasil is now a full dungeon>Three Scions must be present to enter the tree (like the Wind Tower), so Princess Cannock has to be picked up again>After getting the leaf and curing her brother, she stays on the party permanentlyMakes the most sense to me.
So there was a video of the scions fighting a lumpy mage and Moonbroke was using Monster Pile On. If she happens to be the one who learns Wild Side and the Duplic Hat still exists, she might be the strongest dps in the game.
>>543893051Possible, as far as the original DQ2 campaign goes, but odds are there's going to be more challenges after Malroth that'll be balanced against it.
Has anybody here played the DQ32 hack? The one that remakes DQ2 in the engine of the DQ3 remake for Super Famicom? I think that's somewhere in the OP's pastebin link for mods.
>>543893051Won't be as broken as DQ3 with its 3x monster pile-on + wildside
>>543894694Wild Side is like the 5th best attack in 3HD.The meme is like Falcon Blade Persecutter > Cutting Edge > Call to Arms/Quadra Cast Weakness > Pile On (Full Power)
She's strong!
Why do they speak in olde English in I but not in II?
>>543912108They're a couple hundred years apart, right? Surely the localizers would have died by then.
>>543912108Its a Tantagel dialect
>>543920251Uh-huh, and you call this spell Thordain when it's clearly spoken as Kazapple.
NSP when
>>5439284345 hours
Will Mashima replace Toriyama as DQ character designer?
>>543935159depends, how are his monsters and machines? I only know him from being discount Oda
>>543935650I don't know, I'm not a Fairy Tail fan, but he did do a Monster Hunter manga. All his characters look like they're from a template, but I guess the same could be said for Toriyama.
How enjoyable is the experience of emulating DS ports of DQ? Like DQV? Thinking of giving it a go, but I'm kinda weirded out by the fact that there are two screens...
>>543937706It's totally fine, I've played through them all like that. You get used to the stacked screens pretty quickly, and they only use the touch function for minor minigames so you don't have to worry about that.
>>543937706pretty enjoyable given most emulators will let you increase the internal resolution (so that 3D stuff looks better). The two screens are more of a single long screen usually, but a few emulators let you customize that so that you can position them however you want, and as for using the touch screen you use the mouse or whatever else can work (like if you're using a device with a touch screen)take a look at this for all the info you might need https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_DS_emulators
>>543938984>>543939028Thank you! And was hazily aware that they can be repositioned and such. Glad to know its good :)Also didn't know that you could use the mouse like the stylus :o
>>543940680Think about it, Anon. How else would you do touch input when emulating a touch screen device? Not like you can touch your monitor.
>>543942665I've seen hold trigger + move right stick
>halo 1 remake (again) before dragon quest 12>halo on playstation before dragon quest 12
Dragon quest 12 was 1+2 all along
>>543942665Just thought it would be unusable, especially when you mainly use a controller :p
>>543908605Why's the text box and font look different than mine?
>>543943250Masterpieces take time
rejection...
Everyone in VII looks 8 years old
>>543954259How can you even tell from chibi sprites?Rare Maribel fighting sprite.
6 days until I +II remake
X!!!
>>543944421I'm playing offrine.
We are almost there, Dragon Questers.
>>544012798My genes are so weak...
>The easiest way to grind is to just put the game on baby mode and walk in circles in the postgame dungeon
>>543954259they all are
>>543982562Ah, that makes sense.Is the offline translation actually any good? I mean, playing the MMO version is machine translated so I guess it can't be much worse than that.
>>544030513The main storyline of the MMO has been translated and edited by humans at least. The NPCs are MTL I believe because those text files are server side. If you know enough Japanese to read the npc dialogue, you actually don’t need MTL at all.
>>544030513From what I understand the dude(s?) who worked on offline's translation got a lot from the online translation's team. As far as actual quality goes, it's wildly inconsistent. Important scenes are hand-written and generally well done, but a lot of unimportant stuff is left machine translated. Some characters or locations will have like 3 or 4 different names you'll see in the space of a couple minutes.
>>544038091Wow, that MTL is rougher than even the worst that I've seen in online.
>>544044316One would think the MTL has improved with AI shit getting better but I haven't played the MMO in 2 years.
I have no idea what I'm customizing a monster for and what it will be used for but they all look cool as hell and I'm already on board with this game
>>544048862me on the left
>>543782815Builders 3 fucking WHEN
dragon questin'
>>544065507In 5 days
>>544071678I feel like this sometimes.
MATT DAMON
the Fragment Acquirers Guild
>>544082901In order to restore the world there once was, we need to turn to the FAG.
DQX
>>544082176And Orgodemir sits in his lair singing about how he's so lonely.
What are your thoughts on the HD Remakes compared to the originals?
>>544109239I think they're great. 8 bit and 16 bit games don't look great on a high resolution display and HD-2D looks to be the best visual successor to top down 2d games. The QOL of bag room is nice too
>>544109239The voice acting feels very out-of-place when the characters don't even animate when they speak.
we FF4 now
>>544112040f-five niggas in a row?!
>>544109239Speaking just for 3, obviously:>Visuals are 75% great to 25% wonky>Towns and dungeons look especially good, tons of variety, maybe the best the series has done in that department>Battle system additions/changes almost all positive, difficulty changes a mixed bag>Voice acting is decent but so sparse it's pointless, new story scenes just feel weird>Monster collecting is cute but the board game was betterAs remakes go it's a positive step compared to something like 7 on 3DS, and it's infinitely better than the bad phone port you could get on Switch before this, but it's still a mixed bag. I'm cautiously optimistic for 1&2.
>>544112416AND goblin pantsu. This game has it all.
chubby green dwarf girl sexo
Are you excited more for 1 or 2? I'm kinda looking forward to DQ1 more cause the solo aspect makes you use abilities that are normally useless.
>>544120616Fancy Footwork all day every day
>>544120757>Open up every boss with fancy footwork
>>544120616It's about equal for me. I like DQ1 a lot more to begin with, but I'm more excited for the additions to DQ2.
>>543935159Na. They are already using legacy helpers or people trained in the style. A lot of people know the design style so somebody like that will end up being picked up.
Did a "speedrun" of dq1 today.4 hours of calling armored knights and red dragons niggers trying to beat the game at level 18.Clocked in at 10 and a half hours. Like 20 Charlock dives. Died and lost half of my silver shield money because I didn't save before going to Cantlin.Pretty fun, hated it, would do it again. I could have been like level 24 with 4 hours of grinding instead of dives.
>>543937706I had fun wih them like 10 years ago so you should have all the tools you need by now and a far more advanced emulator.
>>544132375The superior remake is out in 4 days why bother
>>544120616both, 1 for what you said but 2 for the stuff they added on it
>>544120616DQ2, easily. My introduction to Dragon Quest was the GBC release of 1&2, and 2 in particular was my favored game for how it just felt so chill. Just me and two pals against the world with almost no direction to follow.
I'm gonna quest Gwaelin.
>>544157863
>Gravid requestKek
>>544162217Thou must make more? Verily.
I just cannot get into DQIX no matter how many times I try. I get to the Wight Knight part and just lose all interest. I think it's the party members I hate not having real party members. And I know it was a thing in DQ3 but I also don't like DQ3.
>>544169771Literally me. Ix is simply bad
>>544169771>>544171927you WIRR play IX remake anyway!!
>Haven't visited Woodus in half a decade>Forum is dead>Everyone is on Discord>Two or three familiar faces >Everyone else is the classic eternally online discord peopleWhat the fuck happened? I know it's discord but I though Woodus being majority Boomers would deter them. How'd they even find it?
>>544169771Do you have anyone to play it with?
>>544182085it's been like this foreverevery smaller forum was eventually turned into a discord server that then gets shared around everywhereinstead of having multiple communities online that all have their own history, culture, inside jokes and stuff, everything turned into some amorphous blob with twitch emotesalso affected 4chan, you just have to look at /v/ or the redditblob subhumans that post here
>>544182085The mistake they made was allowing people to make their own invites. Initially the forum was the only place that had the invite and even then they should have made that forum only appear for registered members. >>544184143>multiple communities online that all have their own history, culture, inside jokes and stuff, everything turned into some amorphous blob with twitch emotesDamn shame too. The forum was very cozy and was one of the best places for DQ discussions. Did you two try hanging around the discord? I'm not that old but I feel ancient compared to some of the people there and they mostly just talk about nonsense.
I'm sad we never got Heroes 3 and Builders 3.
>>544185169>Did you two try hanging around the discord?nah, besides 4chan i was active in lots of communities in the early 2000s, from dq, to seiken, to dbz fangames, but i just left when those forums closed downolder forums where about longer discussions, threads would last weeks, if not months, now everything's just about who's online right now, and that pretty much kills any sort of discussionthen there's also the fact that i don't have anything in common with any of these "people"i will just stay on 4chan, it's the only thing from the old internet that's left and once it shuts down i will just be offline i guess
Of all forums to succumb to this, Woodus makes me the saddest.
>>544169771DQ9 basically does not start until when you beat Alltrades.
DQ9 never actually feels like it starts
>>544189106>>544189839The actual storyline with Corvus is just filler. DQ9 is all about the post-game grind.
what was that metal slime dungeon called again? Kintsujin, Netori,Something ruby idk It was some Japanese name.
>>544193056Ruby Path of Doom, going by how DQ11 immortalized it.
>>544193056The Masayuki map.>>544193441He means the nickname it got, named after the player who first found it. But it is a Ruby Path of Doom.
Ruby Path of Doom Level 87, to be precise.
>>544193056>NetoriAnon...I
4 days until I +II remake. Last chance, lads.
>>544195829Last chance for what?
>>544193925Nettori, maybe?
>>544196167To feel it coming
>>544196402Netero?
>>5441697719 is pretty poorly paced and the content is poorly spread. also the story sucks
>>544141429It was interesting."Speedrunning" dq1 turns it into a resource management game.Plus I found a really cool grind from level 6 to 8 when you do dives into the dark cave because there is a chest that has over 100 gold that refills when you leave.Plus you can get lucky and get the cursed necklace which sells for 1300 or so.I was only frustrated because I tried to beat it at level 18. You only have a 43% chance to run from armored knights and red dragons.At level 19, 20, 21 and beyond it becomes waaaay easier to beat thr game. And it's only a 15 minute grind until level 19.So while it took me longer to do it the speedrun way a casual run can just grind until level 20 and have a better time.
Probably a dumb question but how does 3hd2d compare to the original? Is it the definitive edition?I really like the NES version and I just picked up the physical cart.
>>544199292>Is it the definitive edition?no, as in "it doesn't have literally everything every previous version of the game had". You can see it as an alternative choice alongside playing the SNES version or the GBC version, with obviously better graphics but content wise it added something while also removing something, doesn't really make any of those versions actually "obsolete"
any updates on that dqg game?
>>544112040This way looks so cute
>>544195829I've been feeling it. Downloaded DQ3 in preparation.
>>544214658Nice
>>544196673I still miss him...
Alright, I said I was going to do the trilogy in the proper order, but I finished Pokemon Z-A and now I'm itching for something slow and calming like DQ. I figure I'll start with 3, but only going as far as beating Baramos before starting 1 so as to maintain some of the original surprise.
>>544222176I mean 1+2 releases in just a few days if you can wait a bit
>>544223476I thought about that, but I'm also a little impatient to try a DQ3 idea I had: juggling one of every "character" with no reclassing (barring Gadabout -> Sage) so I can try to emulate 11's style.
I did drop 3R for some reason, but I didn't get too far. Just reached the pyramid. I'll get back to it after I beat 1 and 2.
>>544222176>>544224628I'm skeptical of Horii's "play 3 first" philosophy for these remakes but if you've actually played them all before you might as well do it that way and just play 3 all the way through. Don't expect too much, but there are a couple of additions late in nu-3 that are setups for nu-1&2 that might be less interesting the other way around.
>>544225368I'm aware of the teases regarding Hargon. To me, it feels like he wants to rewrite 2's ending to be a bigger finale for the Erdrick story, but I still feel like playing 3 before at least 1 spoils a lot of the surprise connections between them. Saving the Alefgard part of 3 for after 1 is my compromise.
>>544120616After being obsessed with 1 for the last year, 1.But I do believe 2 was undercooked originally so a bangup update to that game will be great.It had all the makings of being nearly as good as 3, they just needed to give cannok like 20% more fucking hp and tone the enemies better. Once you cross the first tunnel into moonbrooke, it's hell until you can breeze through it, no middle ground.
>>544224628https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonquest3remake/mods/67If you're gonna do that, this mod will probably make things a lot smoother. There's also a mod that lets you dumpster your Yuusha if you'd like.
>>544233115I picked Switch 2 for the trilogy, so I'll make do somehow. Thanks for the offer, though.
Can we all agree that Pep is a fucking shit mechanic?
>>544236081I like it a lot. It's way better than tension
>>544236939This
>>544236081We cannot.
>>544237162>>544236939It's fucking shit.>lol defend for 20 turns against a weak enemy before fighting a boss so the whole party is pepped up>grind in the casino and gold until every character is filled with Pop/Pip PepsJust dumb bullshit locking important character moves behind something you either can't control or is tedious and braindead to control.
>>544237446It's not like pep moves are essential to beat bosses and it procs pretty often. I don't think I ever used a pep item even in the postgame on stronger monsters.The system in X Offline looks like it might be the best of both worlds, but an anon who actually played that game would have to speak to that.
>>544237957There are way too many "beat X enemy with Y Pep move" quest. And most Pep moves are just fine, but Magic Burst something other from Veronica and Serena is the strongest one in the game.
DQX is fun. I'm in version 3. It's so fun seeing how broken the English is on anything that's not the main questline. It's cute.It's hard to do some stuff though like bag organization. Anlucia is my wife, but then she cucked me with a fucking horse. Now Estella is my wife
>>544237446You're treating it like tension when it's meant to be more of an opportunistic strike. And how much the meter charges depends mostly on damage taken, so you're going to see it happen more often during boss battles anyway.
>>544238278Executioner can miss.
>>544238131>There are way too many "beat X enemy with Y Pep move" quest.Absolutely, but that's an issue with XI's sidequests more than it is with pep.
>>544238586Ok?
>>544238813It makes the Golden Giants fight a pain if you don't use Pip Peps.
>>544239204Like >>544238617 said, that's more an issue with sidequests than pep.
>>544239402I wouldn't call it a sidequest even if it isn't mandatory because Hendrick is barely half a character without Forebearance.
>>544169771What's funny is that if you beat DQIX, then you can finally unlock some actual party members.
I just think double/triple techs are neat and if they absolutely have to re-remake more character-focused games like IV and especially V it would be crazy not to include them somehow.
>>544239204They hit hard so you get pepped up faster
>>544238617They're still better than DQ9's sidequests. Some of those were especially absurd.
>>544222176>>544226021If you already know the "twist" then what exactly are you trying to avoid being spoiled on? The entire thing relies on the idea that you don't know that its actually a prequel.
>>544274186The principle of the thing.
>>544274241The "principle" is that you play games in release order. The remakes are released and written under the assumption that players are approaching it as 3/1/2. This is especially true when you consider how heavy handed they've been getting in foreshadowing stuff in the last third of the game.If you want the "classic" experience, then you play the older releases and do it in the 1/2/3 order.
>>544274241The remake trilogy was specifically developed with 3 being the first entry with the creator's guidance.
>>544237446You don't have to do either of those things, the whole point is to randomly have the opportunity to do a big flashy special move once in a while, same as the coup de grace abilities in IX or the specials in X.Lemme guess, you hate FFIX trance too, huh?
>>544236081Wouldn't call it shit, but it's just meh. Tension, like in DQX, is my favorite. In general, I prefer mechanics I can control rather than 'hope this hidden meter is filled when I need it' type of shit.
Is there a romance system in 11? I just got Veronica and don't know if I should try and flirt with the loli, her little sister or Jade
>>544282572No. There is a post-game reward that lets you choose any party member (or the useless childhood friend, who was the only choice in the original release) to be your life partner, but it doesn't really amount to much beyond a bonus cutscene and you can change your pick at anytime.
>>544282887Childhood friend was cute... I'd have been happy to ditch Serena for her. I've only known Serena for ten minutes and already she's boring the shit out of me.
No one tells him
>>544279248>Tension, like in DQX, is my favoriteIsn't tension basically exclusive to Martial Artist and I guess whatever advanced class might have a Psyche Up equivalent?
Is there really an audience for DQ1-2 to be remade in 2d yet again? I can understand the appeal for DQ3. But since DQ3 came out already what's the point of remaking the first two in 2d again when it's more or less the same games anyway? Genuinely don't get it. I mean I guess they know what they're doing and people will buy them nonetheless. But that's what I don't really understand
>>544286759I believe I read Horii specifically demanded it.
>>544286759Because past 1 and 2 remakes have done nothing to actually improve on them, so they're long overdue.
>>544237957I like Offline's system a lot. It builds up over time/when you get hit. Clap Trap and Psyche Up fill it up, too. You can spend portions of it for super moves, or wait until it's full to get a stat boost. When it's full, the super moves are free until the full tension wears off after 3 turns or so.
>>544289432>picFunny, I actually have a screenshot of that exact same scene in Online.
Posting content of DQ2's 2nd staff roll is prohibited until November 29 https://x.com/famitsu/status/1982781918212206789
>>544293597Gotta love how they spoiled that there's even two staff roles (plus more???) themselves lol.So is the original ending only going to be 1/3rd of the way through the game now? Kinda funny to think that they shortened VII, but have tripled the length of II.
>>544293597>>544294132Suddenly, my random idea that DQ2 will send the Scions back to the DQ3 world has more possibility than I thought.
Scenario Writer: Emil Pagliarulo
>>544289189sure but do we really need a remake for every game in existence especially in this specific case where early dq games are so similar in their gameplay, graphics, and story (or rather lack of)?
>>544286759They're tying the trilogy together better, the originals weren't completely consistent across the games like they will be now.
>>544296975Its tradition to have a new version of 1-3 at some point in every decade. We'll see it again in the 2030s
3 days.
>>544296975Yes.*vrooms away *
>>544294132>but have tripled the length of IIIt's a full price game, I would hope soThe originals were very short
>>544304829We deserve her as a new playable character
I'd probably tolerate 7 more if they added more npc models and put more music in. Every town being samefaces spazzing out over quests of the week with the same goddamn village theme looping no matter where you go was exhausting. You need a special kind of autism to tolerate the game or the 3ds remake
>>544308375She's not a fighter she has the hero carry her all the way to Tantegel without walking a single step.
>>544309050I got more annoyed at the stone slab alter, the harp was fucking grating after a while
Why are the male character options in 11 shit...? Erick is alright until he starts talking with that inconsistent accent, Sylvando is a raging faggot, and I don't care how many old men Dragon Quest throws at me I'm not using a boomer. The girls are kino but the guys other than Erick genuinely embarrass me
>>544316673Veronica should have been a short stack post-transformationMaking her a literal child was dumb
>>544317101I sorta like it for her juxtaposition with Serena desu.
>>544316673You should be embarrassed by Sylvando, given he's more of a man than you'll ever be with that attitude.
>>544316673Jade has the personality of a door
>>544314567She puts her stupid coffin dwelling brother to shame. Give us our fourth cousin!!
>>544317602Is he actually good? He does come across as so painfully flamboyant...
>>544318528I mean, where are you at in the game?Because I, and a lot of other people, really like him because he's just a genuinely good and caring person. He's loud and flamboyant but he cares the most about others in the whole group, and knows when to reel it back when needed.
>>544319285Still on my way to the sand slayer. I'll admit he's winning me over just a bit. Probably not enough to have him in my main party but still fun
>>544318528>>544320149>Probably not enough to have him in my main party but still funEven if you don't like him, he's extremely useful as a party member if you go straight for the Hustle Dance skill panel and focus on charm-boosting gear. He'll be the party's best healer until most of the way through the game, and still pretty useful even very late.
>>544320149Oh then yeah you got lots more to see from him.Even just his story in Gallopolis is basically about him helping out a coward just because he can, and it plays into his overall story later on.And yeah, what the other anon said. As a party member he's very useful and can fulfill multiple roles very well.
>>544318330I don’t like the spunky tomboy princess archetype.Princesses should be sweet and demure like Moonbrooke.
>>544321850Dogfucker-hime is a poor example.
>>544321850>Kyril wants to know your location
>>544317225I mean, they would still have their juxtaposition
Serena is such a Sylvando groupie lol
Starting DQ3 HD2D at last and I now remember why it doesn't click with me as well as other Dragon Quests: having to make my own party members. At least I can alter their looks some so they're not all constant clones. Anyway, what's the best general personality picks for each class (excluding the clear favorite in Vamp)?
>>544319285>>544317602The fact that Sylando was physically a giga nigga but also the team auntie was such a good character design combo
Do we love purple or blonde Moonbrooke more?Also I'm lowkey really hoping we get some cute scenes of her having doggy flashbacks in the remake. My favourite DQ art is when she's giving off retriever energy
>weYou like what you like.
>>544327430With any luck, she'll get an item that lets her switch hair colors freely.
>>544327430I prefer blonde, but with another blonde-ish girl in the party it makes sense to go with purple. I'm glad they're leaning into the dog stuff, it's cute.
>>544327605Tbh a lot of the Dragon Quest characterisation is headcanon. I like imagining fun little scenarios happening between the cast as they go on their journey. It's part of why I really like 3 and 9 having an actual party creator. It lets you larp a little.
I want Serena to have my retarded babies
>>544330379I'd prefer Gemma.
Guys I can't wait for DQ 1+2 im gonna pull some late nighters on 3hd remake for the next few days
>>544299693its happening!!1
"You heartless monster!!" Veronica is funny XD I had her in the pigsuit too so she looked extra ridiculous
What’s the nature of Sylvando and Dave’s relationship? I won’t make a commitment to Sylv is he’s buggering beefcakes on the side.
>>544327430i prefer purple by a lot.
>>544327430Purple is cute and canon, bl*nde is an abomination.
>>544330379Granted.
>>544327430Moonbroke is purple. Blondie is lady Peronel
Whilst I've enjoyed the game far more after the slow beginning I still find 11's pacing really off... it feels like every game in the series seems to have some pacing issues. 4 resets you every couple of hours, 5 drags at the second gen, 7 is a fucking nightmare, and I really didn't like the tutorial sections and dungeons of early 11.The only game I've played where I was kinda comfy throughout was 9. You had your simple acts and collectables, towns rarely last more than an hour, the story never lost momentum. The only bits I remembered getting held up at was metal slime farming for skills which was more on my poor planning than the games faultI don't know how 1 and 2 will feel. I hear they're shorter and more replayable though.
>>544333046>gameplay after the second creditsDamn they're going all out
>>544347214The real question is what we're going to get between the first and second credits.
>>544323753Vamp, Wit, Bodybuilder and Lucky Devil.If you pick M Hero, go for Wit and change over to Vamp via the event later on.
I hope they fix game once you het the boat since that was the worst part of 2 for meThe Early game and Late game were amazing
>>544345370fully agree. the best you can do is keep a savefile on recruiting mcryan and another after the strand. that way on replays you can enjoy a full party and exploration right away.9 and 3 do have impecable pacing, combat, and economy.
>>544323753I'll do this by classHero: Paragon is better than Vamp for the Majority of the game, Vamp only takes over after you start dealing most of your damage with KaZap and regularly acting as a healer in boss fightsVirtually all non-heroes: Bat out of Hell should be the default 'idk what to use' doesn't have negative stats and ensures your Mage/Sages get off the important AoE spells before randoms and makes traveling around a smoother experienceHealer: Wit or Tough Cookie - don't need as much scaling but not dying is a great perk for healersThe Melee: Paragon(usually by means of the accessory as many classes can't start as Paragon so Tough Cookie or in some cases Bat will have to do for the start) Whichever class they end up as they should pass through Merchant to learn Muster(which stacks with Oomph) Especially Strong with an ex-theif (learn persecutter)Gadabouts can start Vamp and it's honestly not bad for Sage considering the main draw of Gadabout -> Sage is that you can make it into anything for the post game so no stats get wasted
Man, I hope I can endure DQ1's battles. I really don't like the orchestral version of the battle theme in a video game setting.
>>544318528elfondo is a zesty onehe bats for the other teamgardens uphillknows the difference between curtains and drapesswings the other waywishes he was a she slime
>>544363742It'll probably have the symphonic arrangement to swap to if it does your head in.
>>544383026I love this slutty ganguro more than you could ever believe!
>>544388837Thanks Dawnposter
>>544353439More likeBodybuilder/Tough Cookie - MeleeWit/Vamp - MagicLucky Devil - Gadabout via Hen's Tooth to max out their Luck and then you change over to Vamp when you go Sage.Luck is not a dump stat in HD because it modifies phys ranges, crit rates and ailment success/resistance. A Mage/Sage with very high luck is quite potent since they can outspeed and use Snooze/Fuddle to cripple encounters/set up for a Falcon Blade Persecutter.Hero's magic is quite solid long before Kazap/Omniheal, since you get a bunch of key spells around the same time as your primary mages and Zap line is a common weakness. Phys is mostly just for filler boomerang chip and a couple elemental slashes if you cant slam them with a spell (not common)
What's your favourite DQ3 party?
>>544398113For story, one of every class. For post-game, Hero, Warrior/Martial Artist mix, Gadabout/Sage, and Thief/Merchant mix. I haven't yet tried the Monster Masher/Master/Wrangler/whatever they wanna call it.
>>544398113Don't have one. That said, one of my best playthroughs was when I emulated a YuYu Hakushou team. Shit was cash.
>>544391548Luck is the only stat that has an accessory that gives a giga-fucking-enormous +50 - This ostensibly makes it's Growth one of the less important growths when comparing personality as a deficiency is more readily fixed than anything else. To say Phys is "just" for Boomerang chip is questionable. Boomerangs are king of the random encounter up until your party learns Boom and Kacrack 23-25(with a suppose a notable exception for a slightly over leveled Hero sometimes having Sizzle at 18 just in time to burn several mummies in the pyramid) - and unless your endgame plan is to get both DuplicHats and wizard down bosses that way you're likely already using Sap/Oomph for the Created Physical hitter at which point the Elemental Slashes with a reasonable weapon will outperform appropriate level spells for everything from Khandar to Troll, with ghostbusters and Garbs being the only Overworld bosses magic is particularly superiorThank you for attending my Ted Talk
>>544402812Yes, its primarily for boomerang chip because a lot of the stronger vocations can either use boomerangs or have their own form of AoE like Bang/Stone Throw/Boulder Toss etc.You dont need particularly high strength on Hero because they made AoE very easy to access in HD. Hero gets Zap/Zapple to delete key targets and Sizzle/Boom/Kasizz/Kazap all at key points to assist your mage/sage's sweeping. Then as you said, one Kacrack shows up around the orb quest, boomerangs are on the backburner outside metals. Its also worth noting that magic on a whole is stronger as of August 2025 due to better scaling, so spellcasters are much more competitive in the long term. This does come at a cost of ailment infliction being harder on Draconian, so you really do need all the luck you can get on your Gadabout > Sage.Furthermore, if you're talking long term planning, Hero's offense is the least relevant vs bosses. No Cutting Edge/Falcon Blade + Persecutter/Wild Side/Pile On/Duplic Hat/etc.On the note of Luck, yes, even with the Hen's Tooth/Shoes, you still dont want to penalize it too hard due to mechanical quirks. Agility is easier to fix since you get like 2 Meteorite Bracers, 4 Mercury Bandanas AND Wild Side boosts speed. Its also wise to stagger your team's speed tiers so that your Egg On bot can go before your main physical character for better turn efficiency. Hero lacks access to the big stuff even with Falcon Blade and Auroral Helm, so he tends to end up being an Omniheal/Kazap/Orochi Sword bot by the end.
>>544405674Btw, everything from Khandar to Troll is just wrong. Multiple bosses have weaknesses that magic can also exploit. Phys only really cleanly wins on sole wind weak enemies.
>>544407150Does it really matter outside of Draconian difficulty, when you have to know what you're throwing or get wrecked?
>>544398113M HeroF WarriorF PriestM MageThat's the only team I've ever used, so I guess that one.
Why do DQ villains suck? The only one people remember is the NTR porn horse from DQV.
>Ladja and motherfucking Psaro aren't memorable Anyway, we need a DQ variant of this. Any ideas?
>>544417568Best I can think of it a Cannibox in place of the fish.
>>544417568>>544419791Maybe the hook is a Cannibox and the fish is someone capable of casting Peep?
>DQHD coming out soon>schizos show up to armed and ready to call it a flop
>>544421436We can work with this.
>>544422326T'is art bait.
>>544422326>Эй, пpинцecca, этo oпpeдeлeннo пpимaнкa.
Is it too much to hope that when 1&2 come out, 3 will get an update to backport some of the new revisions (like disabling the free healing on level up)? Probably. I know there's mods for PC, but having an official version is always nice.
>>544431037Unlikely, but it would be nice. Pipe dream is diagonal overworld sprites.
>>544428619I think it might be better to just leave it in color and put a textbox from the NES games in the bottom left corner that says its bait.I'd do it myself but I'm not home at the moment, and won't be for another 2 hours.
>>544421909You're on 4chan, everyone here centers their personality around negativity and things they hate.
Make a choice for me1. Make a new DQX character2. Play through v6 on my old DQX character3. play DQIX4. Play the 3DS remake of DQM25. Play DQXI
>>544428619I like it.
>>544437053you rolled a 3 so play ix
>>544416764Because every town has a punch clock villain with as much attention as the big bads do. They often have no personality outside of being evil for the sake of being evil, almost to a fault. I also personally found that even the ones written with a personality like 7's and 9's were kinda underwhelming.The thing is that Final Fantasy also has villains that are evil for the sake of being evil but their designs are so striking that I will remember them. Exdeath comes to mind as a big bad who generally is as shallow and has as much screentime as a DQ villain... Dude is built like a fucking boss. Then you get to the last phase which is a cascade of nightmarish demons and he's a difficult fight too. This is debatably one of the least fleshed out Final Fantasy bosses and he puts the DQ lineup to shame.
>>544432726Gave it my own attempt and decided to move the textbox under the image.
>>544450080Made the text a little bigger.
>>544450080>>544451620It would be more authentic if the dialogue started with an asterisk.
>>544452440I looked up gameplay of DW4 for reference when making the text box and saw no asterisk at the start. I think that was only a thing in 1 and 2?
>>544438998Very kind of (You)
>>544451620Cool stuff, anon
>>544452440Asterisks are for nameless NPCs.
Does anyone have Dragon Quest I-II already on switch?
Dragon Quest Minus One
>>544456249I'm playing it right now.
>>544459572Awwwww my GOD.
I'm a little surprised it hasn't leaked yet.
RIP Mutsumi Inomata
>>544461041No. Really?!
>>544461041Is this the chrono cross guy?
>>544461041>
>>544462902Tales of. Inomata was a woman.
>>544460554Horii's no doubt doing all he can to make sure NOBODY spoils the surprises one second sooner than he decrees.
You know, I'm starting to get the impression that 1&2 were the actual target games this whole time.Think about it. 3 already had it's major content expansion decades ago on SNES, and HD-2D doesn't really add much more to that. 1 and 2 never got anything like that until now. It almost feels as if the 3 remake was just practice for 1&2, rather than the "well all that work can be re-used, may as well do them too" scenario that most people seem to be thinking.
>>544471029>3 already had it's major content expansion decades ago on SNESAnd again on GBC. All HD2D did was replace the monster medal collecting with actually collecting monsters to get into the second bonus dungeon.
>>544471291GBC is my favorite version, but I'd at least give HD-2D the credit that Monster Wrangler, abilities and the new bosses are a more substantial addition than GBC's medals.
>>544459572>*casts Kathwack*
I struggle so much with gbc games... I'm only just old enough to where the visuals are on the edge of unbearable for me
>>544483651I understand this attitude since I've felt this way about older hardware too, but I have no special advice for getting over it except to just get over it.Maybe try the GBC Zelda games if you like that series at all. They look great and are still really fun to play.
It's almost Halloween...you know what that means!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE
23 hours to go questers
Questin' makes me feel good
how long until leaks
>>54448845022 hours
How long is Dq11? really dumb question but do I have any chance of beating the game before 2hd comes out? I've just got the boat
>>544500457It's at least 100 hours, more like 160 for 100%.
Are DQ I & II HD remakes going to be short?I remember playing the first Final Fantasy game and I finished it in 8 hours or so an Final Fantasy II took me ~12 hours to beat.
>>544506895The original DQ is usually about 10 hours, could be longer though for the HD version.DQII is seemingly tripled in length since they spoiled that there are multiple credits rolls and still more game after the 2nd credits, so I'm guessing its gonna be like 50 hours.
>>544451620
Any aussies/ asians already playing ?
>>544510035>New DQ2 is now almost as long as DQ11I definitely second >>544471029 on the idea that Horii really REALLY wanted to expand on DQ2 from the get-go.
>>544316673Thats because you've been playing with the shitty eng dub where americans thinks you cant make an interesting character without some quirky accent, play it in jap it is much more pleasant to the ears and the tone they have is consistent with the dialogue.Veronica dub was so terrible, its like she had no idea how she was supposed to act
>>544515903Better still, mute the voices altogether.
>>544516295Good point, original had no voice and they had the good idea to use sound design so that we could feel the texts
>>544515328Call me when they use the intended ending with Cannock-chan as the basis for act 3
>>544517313They probably will, though it'll obviously be a fake-out to set up for what comes after Malroth.
Has there been any mention/indication of Party Chat for DQ2? Always been one of my favorite features, and it’s the only one of 1-3 it would really apply to.
>>544519837Don't know about party chat but the Cannocks and Moonbrooke are voiced now
>>544506895Supposedly a 100% run of will take about 15 hours for I and 40 hours for II
DQ but genshin clone for pc and smartphones
So do we know what time 1&2 is unlocked for playing?
>>544515903I appreciate that there's so many different accents and that everyone has such defined personality. It's more of seeing it like a stage drama to me.
>>544527846"Eventually", apparently.
Weekends at the Cannocks!
>>544534583>Prince Midenhall and the ladies have to puppeteer Prince Cannock's dead body around the castle and make everybody think he's still alive
If Cannock survived the final boss battle you didn't beat the game
>>544527846>>544533709Probably noon EST.If not then, 3pm EST. If not then, SE fucked up the launch.
>>544483651im 24 and can play atari 2600 games. just be better.
>>544483651you say that but i think GBC 1, 2 and 3 look very nice, like they have a very pleasant feelalso, one advice would be to try ctr filters, games back then were made with those in mind, if you're on pc i recommend looking up shaderglass (it's basically just a see through window that applies a filter from it's fuckhuge catalog to whatever it's underneath) and then try filters until you find something you like, even if it's not "accurate"
>>544537474Wow, that's pretty late in the day
>>54453994712 EST is typical for a lot of AAA releases, since that's a generalized time when the latest people in the day will be awake, and when the majority of physical buyers will have gotten their game.
>>544540486Huh. I did not know that, because I haven't been a digital buyer until recently. Good to know.
>>544540620It's not universal, but it's a general rule of thumb.Konami, for example, releases all of their games at midnight.
Seems like it will be available at midnight given the countdown.
54 hours in ans I just saved Loomin (didn't kill Chibi this time) and Maribel has left. This is probably not a bad stopping point to leave VII for a couple months while I play I&II HD, yeah?
I'm feeling it, spongebob. What about (You)?
Famitsu is claiming DQII to be around 35-40 hours. I to be 10-15 hours. Gave 1&2 a 34/40Source: https://ryokutya2089.com/archives/92274
>1 Cannot be cleared without helping the princessAw.https://ryokutya2089.com/archives/92268
torrent out on rutracker
>>544546832aw shiet
>>544546679No time paradoxes allowed this time, it seems.
>>544546679>We kept the original game’s speed for Ramia and the ship because we wanted them to move gracefully in time with the music.>These days there are many more things to play, and a lot of players prefer to get ahead quickly.>The idea to include Princess Samaltoria was Hayasaka’s suggestion.>Estimated playtime for DQ1: 10–15 hours; with thorough play it can exceed 20 hours.>DQ2 is expected to be 30–40 hours; with deep play it could exceed 50 hours.>That particular choice in DQ1 — even if you pick it — can be recovered from, just like in the Super Famicom version.>You can’t finish the game without rescuing the princess.Horii: “The red in the Red Loto equipment is — _____, right?”Hayasaka: “That’s enough! (laughs)”> It’s a secret for now, but the logo has meaning.>As for post-clear content you can enjoy: it’s hard to describe, but there definitely is content like that.>Please be sure to watch the ending.>If you play through DQ2 to the end, you might understand what we meant by wanting to make use of elements from XI.>It’s true that this new Loto trilogy contains some surprising developments.>I think players will be shocked, saying “I can’t believe that happens.”>With DQ1 & DQ2, the Loto trilogy can be nicely concluded.>The destructive power of the Zaraki spell has been adjusted, but it hasn’t been removed entirely (sweat).>Given that DQ1 is almost a solo party game, this amount of content feels about right.
>>544550193>That particular choice in DQ1 — even if you pick it — can be recovered from, just like in the Super Famicom versionSo saying Yes to Dragonlord's rigged deal is again an "all a dream" reset to Rimuldar and not a Game Over?
>>544550193>>If you play through DQ2 to the end, you might understand what we meant by wanting to make use of elements from XI.Ereburn bros?
Amber was behind it all.
THE GORRILLAS AHHHHHHHHHHHH
Holy moly, three typos in one text box!
>DQ is older than FF>DQ is waiting for XII while FF is waiting XVIIWhat happened around the PS1-PS2 era for the amount of main DQ games to slow down? Both series have multiple teams so I can only assume things.
>>544559438Without getting into the factors around DQ, consider that FF hitting international megasuccess with 7 meant there was an incentive to get entries in that series out quickly, and since it was developed internally (unlike DQ) the suits could apply more pressure to make that happen.
>>544559438Series basically ended for all intents and purposes, so releases could relax.DQVII was basically the ultimate DQ game and also had a lot of dev hell.Then DQVIII was made to address some critiques of VII and create a fully 3D DQ.DQIX was moreso a proto for the multiplayer DQ idea, which became...DQX, which was an MMORPG.And XI was an anniversary game.Whereas with FF, FFVII-X were the start of SE realizing they should be pushing harder. When Sakaguchi left, they did just that, but ironically, FF only slowed down since XII.>XIExperimental MMORPG with the new tech.>XIIMore 'traditional' title.>XIIIAn attempt to do a compilation style series (back when Compilation of VII was in its infancy).>XIVAnnounced before XIII was even out, it was an attempt at the modern MMO style to an extent.>XVRemnants of the failure of XIII, designed to reinvigorate the series.>XVIDesigned to reinvigorate the series.>XVII...designed to reinvigorate the series...
>>544559438Dragon Quest has more remakes
>>544559438One thing that distinguishes DQ from FF, and other series as well, is the fact that there really isn't a dedicated developer. DQ has gone through at least three different developers before being developed internally by SE with 10 and onwards. This means being far less likely to retain key staff between releases, unlike Square in the 80s and 90s who developed everything by themselves and were more likely to retain people, letting them more easily iterate on games and push out frequent releases. DQ7 was where things slowed down tremendously. It had been delayed numerous times, the most out of any DQ game at that point, due to various factors like switching from the N64 to PS1, and Heartbeat, while they exceeded at 2D game development, struggled with 3D and the newer hardware. This caused Horii to drop Heartbeat once development on the DQ4 PS1 remake finished and he landed on Level 5, who were vastly more apt with 3D development.The series would see another slow down with DQ9 which they originally made as an ARPG that got scrapped in favor of going back to turn based gameplay.
Metacritic is up it has a respectable 85https://www.metacritic.com/game/dragon-quest-i-and-ii-hd-2d-remake/
My internet sucks, I wanna preload
Lads, I've got my hands on the big twist at the end of IImake. Beware, Hargon will have friends
>>544558269Melvin's just busy thinking about puff-puff.
>>544567360It's only 16gb
>>544568284My internet really sucks
>>544568026I was thinking maybe he downed a full bottle while I was talking to my deadbeat uncle in the pub.
>>544541986I'm ready.
I bought the DQ3 remake but refuse to play it until I play the DQ1+2 remakes
I'll only be able to dragon quest at Friday noon. Sucks to be a proper and productive member of society.
Is there really a new playable character in 2 now?
>>544584678Careful, those words may get you Whack'd around here
>>544585058Yeah, but she's like a DQ3 Gadabout in that she'll waste a lot of turns doing nothing to help, at least off the beginning.
>Cannock-chan transforms into a dragon if Cannock-Kun goes downImagine
Okay, seeing as how it's going to get tricky to tell spoilers from bullshitting, I'm going to go dark on these threads for a while. Take care, everyone.
>spun a wheel for the next DQ game to start>IVIt has been collecting digital dust in my 3DS, so I guess better late than never.
lmao
DQ 12 is real life!
X
1&2 is now playable.
Not for me...
>>544610698Oh. I should clarify then.I'm EST, and have the game on Switch 2.
>>544611082I'm EST too, but>This game plans to unlock in approximately 11 hoursGabe-sama, just let me download it overnight...
>>544611523Oof, sorry PCbro
>official milano no arbeit collection translation before dragon quest 12>el viento port before dragon quest 12
>>544598941I see you're worth 1xp. I've come to collect.
Where the fuck is the NSP/XCI
>you can choose how characters use items when CPU controlled nowfucking hell, took long enough
It's Dragon Questin time
Who do you guys think was the most popular choice for wife/lifetime bro in DQXIS? Veronica was the most popular character in Japan, and Sylvando in the west, but somehow I doubt most people picked either. Were people boring and just picked Gemma?
>>544620167i picked veronica thoughbeit
>>544620167Japanese men:Veronica > Gemma > Serena > JadeJapanese women:Erik > Serena > Veronica > GemmaAmerican men:Jade > Veronica > Gemma > SerenaMy anecdotal feelings based on frequency of fanart
>>544620663Isn't Jade basically DQ Tifa, how could Japan like her least?
>>544620861One of these>too sisterly>not as cute as the arborian twins>booga
>>544620861They like her but not as a wife, she thinks of Luminary as a brother AND got too pornbaited.
>>544625489>got too pornbaitedTo the point where they had to retcon Booga as a bashful virgin who thinks holding hands is too lewd.
>>544592957I couldn't finish 4... I completely lost interest once I reached the last act and put the game off long enough to where I'm totally lost where to go. Interesting game but I'd be lying if I said I liked it
>>544625810Why does every art with Cannock-chan make her look like she's been photoshopped in lol?
>>544625810digital artwork is amaazing
I love this little Daisy wannabe so damn much bwos....
Let's slurping goo
>>544629961Six hours to goo sadly...
>Playing 2 before 1Don't do that the 1 remake is kino
Been playing 3 remake. I got all the orbs and beat garboyle. How far till i beat the game?? I wanna beat the main story then hop to 1+2 remake.
Which cousin gets the right to fuck Cannock-chan?
>>54463071365% done
>>544631846damn and Im already level 35?
>>544631127Peronel
>>544620167>Were people boring and just picked Gemma?If I finished XI S, I would have. Childhood friend is the best romance.I also would pick Medea over Jessica in VIII if I played 3DS.
>>544620167I know who I picked.
i guess everyone's playing the game(s) haha
I thought the Green Dragon would be a pushover but I was mistaken
Only chads play DQ2 before 1
my copy from amazon isnt coming to saturday…whats the point of preordering?
Who is your favourite DQ big bad? I'm torn between Dragonlord for being the most actually scary and threatening of the big bads and Corvus for actually having somewhat of a backstory.
>>544651765Psaro, without a doubt.
>>544651765Jagonuba
>>544651765hargon
>>544651765Page 10
>>544651765Psaro. I liked the parallel he had with Solo
>new animal crossing new horizons update before dragon quest 12
>>544651765I don't care that much about Psaro as a character but his in-battle transformation is so coolMordegon is the most fun to fight but his buff form looks like complete shitHargon has my favorite personality, but solely because of Builders 2
>>544651765The way DQ2 starts with random towns getting obliterated by an army of darkness will never leave my memory, Hargon is a legitimately evil threatUnlike Baramos who's like, out there doing shit or whatever, Or Psaro who's kinda understandable or fucking Jasper who's just a dumb bitch - Hargon is just a shithead force of evil and the game wont let you forget it.
>>544653314Ah yes. DQ Kart.
does the steam version link save data with dq3? I didn't get that prompt
If I get the Switch 2 version of DQ1+2 HD2D, do I still get the save bonus since I got DQ3 HD2D on Switch 1?
>>544620663After finishing the game, i can only see Veronica or Senya as the rightful brides, even their dialogues have a much deeper meaning and more heartwearming moments
I want to play, but I just got done with Pokemon and then a long VN, so I feel like I should play something with a bit less text. And also I was neglecting Inktober the whole time.
Apologies if I bring any shittalking here but I'm genuinely curious since I'm noticing on /v/ there's a SHIT ton of "shitposters" on DQ quests I'm guessing originating from Anti-FF/Anti-SE fags.WHEN/WHERE/HOW THE FUCK DID THEY STARTED INVADING THE FUCKING DQ THREADS? Did the DQ3 remake censorship mindbreak them THAT much?
>>544664615Who cares. Whine about /v/ in /v/
>>544664862how? it's like going to canada and complaining about indians.
>>544664615There's one retard from here who thinks he's gatekeeping DQ by purposefully making every DQ thread on /v/ about censorship.Genuinely he probably makes up half the negative posts you see.
>>544664615anon how can you still not understand /v/ is all about hating <new thing>? Those boards they made a few years ago were specifically to make /v/ the containment board for this reason
>>544665918If more people in Canada were willing to complain about the Indians there'd probably be less Indians
>>544666868.....
I'm a few hours into the first game and I'm enjoying it a lot so far. I can't wait to get to II, I want to see why SE is so protective about spoilers.
>>544664615Yeah it's just this >>544666237
>>544668348How the fuck did all things did DQ get a fucking schizo? Literally must've latched onto it because of association to FF.
>>544669414I think it was because they hated smashfags or something retarded
>>544664615there have always been shitposters in those threads, but it got worse when they revealed the character designs for the 3makeever since then lots of people whined about 'THEY WAITED FOR TORIYAMA TO DIE TO CHANGE THE ART', and that never stopped, they blame everything on censorship that has already been in 8, 9, 11, or M3doesn't help that the biggest coverage 3make has gotten was culture warriors making videos about it being censored and spreading misinfo like gender-exclusive vocations that have been removed by the evil DEI type 1 or 2dq in the west will probably never get rid of this, not as long as these culture warriors are at it
Game's off to a great start.
Journalist mode was partially separated from babby mode, apparently.
>>544633010Based. Pwincesses, especially pwincesses with pwonounced lispths, belong to their female welationths.
>>544669669Never thought of staying at the inn when that slut was following me around Tantegel
I've been playing DQ1 for 10 hours, holy fucking shit the Draconian Quest is overtuned.I'm very high level for a boss encounter of two Dragon Zombies, I have 310 HP and best Ice resist gear from grinding Gold Golems, these dragons can deal anywhere from 30 HP to 400 HP a round. There's no crowd control, no spells other than Buff from the Faerie Blade that can take this range down to 30 HP to 300 HP.All of this would be fine if I was playing DQ2 with a party of characters, but I have only one. This is the kind of bullshit difficulty I fucking hate, where you're hard level checked. I've beaten DQ8 at pretty much purely Boss EXP and finished at level 28, so it's not me.I was so excited for this game and now I kinda fucking hate it.
>>544487161Fuck off, Bianca. Debora holds the key to my heart and my chastity belt.
Does anyone know if the level cap for DQ1 got raised? Always liked how it was 30.
>>544669914Can't wait for XII to have a Skip Battle option so "casuals" can "play" a movie.
>>544670438you made a thread on /v/ too you faggot. Go farm some breath resist gear.
>play game he hasnt played before first time on hardest diff>its hardholy shit who would have known!? maybe once you get familiar with the game then try draconian little buddy
lvl 3 for heal is too low imo it should be like level 12 at the earliest
>okay this time I'll pick nera i swear to god I'll pick Nera>end up picking BIANCAHOW
>>544675997I’m sorry, anon. You have both taste and a conscience, both a detriment to achieving your life goals.
>>544675997Because she's the only one who outright loses at life if you don't marry her.
>>544663382Yep. I had save data from physical switch 1 version of III, bought the digital SW2 version of I+II and it was recognized
>>544680476>Nera ends up in a sterile marriage>Debora becomes a bitter fat neet>Bianca is a modestly successful, locally popular handywoman and her dad doesn't even dieI dunno
>31% downloadedIt's OK, I can rescue the princess tomorrow...
idk if i like the character additions to dq1
So is the 4th character in 2 avoidable or is it forced?
Its here! (as well as the book that was temptingly 43% off when I was preordering the game off amazon)Little preoccupied with Treasure of the Rudras right now, so I'll probably start it up and play for like 2 hours in bed before I sleep tonight.
i dont know a single thing about this series but i think im gonna buy the 2d hd remake bundle of 1+2 and 3 for $100 what am i in for
>>544685381I would assume forced, since they don't let you skip saving the princess in DQ1 this time.
>>544685530Hard to speak for 1+2 yet but 3 is a pretty good version of a great game. Just keep in mind they were all originally on the NES and the remakes aren't massive overhauls or anything, you're dealing with pretty simple RPGs, especially when it comes to story.
>>544685530cool gamesif you're getting all three at the same time then keep in mind the games' director said you're supposed to play 3 first, then 1 and 2. Who knows what that actually means though
>>544685530probably wont get much thoughts on 1+2 since they both change a fair amount and none of us have gotten through it all yet (since its release day) but 3 was pretty great. you are in for great music, beautiful lighting, fun gameplay, cute women and a tale quite timeless.
>>544685930>>544685960>>544685872>3 before 1+2huh? what the fuck did they add in 1+2
>>544686075early in 1 there are already new characters and then there is the rubiss retcon from 3make that might be slightly confusing i guess? and 2 has like an extra 12 hours added or some shit and a hinted at twist(?) in the after game
>>544686075Unclear so far, but it seems like the back half of 2 was expanded to some extent to tie in more with the earlier games (and 11, which is a very distant prequel) and act as a grand finale.
>>544686075>>544686357Oh, I guess if you're not familiar, DQ3 was always a surprise prequel to DQ1, even if originally the intention was still to play them in release order.
>>544686075I'm up to Rimuldar in 1 and so far, there hasn't been much beyond new callbacks to 3.
>>544625810>Cannock-chan ready to chow down when Middenhall is still adding shit to the potCalm down fatty
>>544398113imagine finding out the world is about to end because the sole hero just wanted to fuck his party members
>>544398113all female warrior
>>544664615A long fucking time ago. Since the DS releases, at least.
>>544687732Like a girl hero wouldn't be above doing it, either.
>there is an option to show secret spots on the map>oh that's great I wanted that in DQ3>turn it on>it shows secret spots on the map BEFORE you've found them via little pingsOne step forward, one step backward. I figured it just marked the ones you found on the map after you find them. I guess it's nice for those few spots that aren't immediately obvious.
>>544690124I mean, I was just going off that picture, but a girl could do the same yeah
>>544671371Is it true that the marriage choice basically doesn't matter in 5 since the kids are all the exact same skill and stat wise and cause the mum is barely in the party? I've always liked the look of Nera but if there's basically no time spent with her in 5 I don't see why there's a debate between them.
>>544690560Pretty much. Pick your favorite hair color.
btw>>544612983>>544613452
>>544690667That sounds so shit... I feel so much avoidance considering 5 is such a popular game. I don't like the thought of the game taking so long to start, I don't like the marriage stuff taking barely any of the game, I don't like the kids being the same, I don't like that the manservant is more of a life partner to the mc than his actual family.
>>544690560In the remake versions there's still tons of dialogue with Nera or Debora via party chat, if you beeline for the objective they're not with you for *that* long (and they rejoin later on so you'll have them for the endgame/postgame) but they have something to say about most NPCs at most locations in the game so there's still a lot to them. All three are really good characters, even compared to ones from other DQ games with party chat who are with you for the entire game.
thought we would be more alive desu
>>544692991Anons are either busy playing the game or trying to dodge spoilers I guess
>>544691165I played through 2/3rds of V before giving up on it, and yeah I feel pretty much the same as you except replace the slow start issue with not liking having to rely on monster party members for the first half of the game.
>>544686516That's why I hate them doing 3 first so much.The impact of goint to Alefgard is completely lost
wait i didnt realize the scrolls were something you used to learn something permanently i thought it was like a one time use in battle and then you lose it
>dragon quest 1 file select doesn't play the whole song before loopingwhat the fuck
>you can't use recall to index all the locked doors in the game in dq1hdDamn. That was so nice in dq3hd.It's been so long, 30 was the max level in the original DQ1, right? Or am I imagining things?
>>544703439honestly strange removal my only guess as to why is to extend play time
>>544703439It didn't even occur to me to use it like that.
>>544703439What? I've been doing that. Wait are you telling me it's just been recording the last conversation I had each time instead?!FUCK, IT HAS BEEN
When will they stop doing stupid name changes? Kids love anime and manga, they won't mind exotic and strange names like... Martina.
Am i schizo if i think because they didn’t include the box art of the gb versions that means they will later release a gb dq collection?
DQ1 has tons of difficulty spikes the damdara boss one shot me
Japanese copies of 1&2 come with an advertisement for DQ7 inside and there will apparently be a bonus in 7 for having save data of 1&2
>>544708891Isn't the bonus going to be fighting the Erdrick saga's big bads?
>>544708961I think it’s an item
what's my bonus meant to have been for playing dq3 first?
>>544708891Sucks for me cause I'm gonna be getting that one on PC rather than Switch.
>>544709275a cat outfit
new to the series. am i really meant to play 3 before 1 and 2. referring to the hd remakes. also should i even bother dropping $100 on the 3 new ones or should i just play them on emulators?
>>544710187The order doesn't actually matter that much. If you want to be turbo autistic about it you should probably play 11 before any of these.It doesn't matter that much which version you play. The remakes aren't perfect and the older versions are still good, even the original NES releases.
>>544710187maybe just buy one and if you like it buy the others at a later date. i would hate for you to not enjoy yourself and be out on money. that being said 3 hd2d is my favorite way to play 3 (my one before it was nes) and 1&2 hd2d adds a decent amount of stuff and will be what the canon is going forward so do with that what you will.
Forgot it game out today, got my collectors edition in the mail this morning. I wanna play it but I'm prioritzing a game I love more right now lol. At the end game of it though.I also just realized I missed an email for squenix about selecting your platform for a code for some free items. Fuck.I hope you all enjoy your adventure, bros. I look forward to starting mine.
Oh
>>544712293How much more could they hope to add to it at this point?
I'm in the files.I'm already finding some very interesting folder names.
>>544712293
>>544703439Not anymore, i was lvl34 at the final boss
Oh shit, no wonder SE wanna censor DQ2 endgame, that shit is kino af
Heh.
Damn they really aren't fucking around in 1HD. My second encounter of the game was against two prestidigitators and they killed my ass quick with sizz. Crazy how you can run into them literally two inches away from Tantegel too.
Is the level cap 99 on both 1 and 2?
>>544714771datamine is out?
>>544715223Not exactly, I'm just doing my own poking around. Found some cool shit. Also sexy shit for the ladies of 2.
>>544713687Well, at the very least, they can add an S2 upgrade to the original Switch release, because DQ11 as-is is choppy.
>>544715424Gimme onegai
Where dost thou turnest in thine mini medals?
>>544715996Give you..? I'm gonna need you to be more specific. You want the sexy stuff?
>>544715424They brought back the Moonbrooke swimsuit gag from MSX?
>>544717137Hell yeah
Someone spoil the endgame and story of dq2 for me
>>544717185Well I dunno if the gag is still there, but there's swimsuits. Unfortunately not the swimsuits we want. Moonbrooke has one in the style of 3 HD.
>>544717470Rather, I don't think the gag is still there because I haven't found any sort of full-screen art like the old ABUNAI MIZUGI screen from MSX.Cannock-chan has a more unique swimsuit.I apologize for the slow posts, 4chan has been being a bitch to me for the past few days.
>>544717338>>544717338Only saw the endgame in japanese so theres a bit of speculation at the end you fight, Hargon who then sacrifices himself to become Malroth. After Malroth defeat, some dark force possess it, that is the true final boss from DQ11 and it becomes a gigantic monster with kino 3d scenes, the heroes gets rescrued by Rubiss and a bird and you fight the dark force like Raphatorne in DQ8, you use the sword of light and you destroy it
>>544717470>>544717629gracias
>>544717629But wait! There's more!
>>544718169Oh, unfortunate news for blondebrooke enjoyers. I haven't found any evidence of a way to change her hair color. The textures aren't set up the same way as in DQ3 with it's on-the-fly tinting system, and there are no blonde sprites in sight.But there are Roto armor sprites for everyone. All five descendants.
>>544718517uoooohhhhhhh ToT
how are you ripping these?
>>544716970The desert region south of damdara has a mini medal castle
>>544717676thanks man I was searching JP streams on YouTube but the ones I saw were like NOOO I MUST ABIDE SQUEENIX BOOTLICKING GUIDELINES
>>544717676now that's bizarre.
>>544719537It's an Unreal Engine game, so it doesn't need any specialty tools. I'm using FModel. Getting to the .pak file could require specialty tools, depending on which version of the game you're trying to get into.https://github.com/4sval/FModel/
got a spritesheet of the Princess?
speaking of sprite sheets, see if there's any other DQ material on there.
>>544723494Gonna assume you meant Gwaelin
Finally downloaded. I'll start tomorrow.>>544702597I noticed this right away when I went in to fuck around with the settings. Extremely weird to cut it short when there's a whole menu attached.
>>544723615You mean like... Dragon Quest 7 material?Sorry, nothing that I've found, beyond monsters that have been added.There's a fair amount of Dragon Quest 3 material. Ortega for example has a full sheet of sprites. A lot of it seems like it could be leftovers, but ultimately hard to say without playing. I'm looking at things with zero context here.
They should start throwing in random shit to confuse dataminers, like a full sprite sheet of blonde Nera or a third Mahabala sister or a Rocket Slime character
>>544718517Wait, who's the 5th descendant?!
>>544725502>like a full sprite sheet of blonde NeraFunny, I've found something similar to that. Spoiled just in case.>>544725628The DQ1 hero, silly.
>>544725796Lame. For a second there I thought they were gonna canonize the builder.
>>544724062god they look all identical in diferent angles. can't wait to see her in motion.
>>544724062Battle sprites are kept separate, bundled in with the other Player Character graphics, as are Princess Carry sprites, which are considered a costume of sorts for the Hero.
>>544726189Here's the version while wearing Erdrick's armor.Unfortunately, no Dog or Cat suit Princess carry sprites.
>>544726389she is literally /our/ wife
Dragon Quest of the Stars (JP) has concluded its service as of October 31, 2025 (Friday) at 12:00
>>544727771Another one bites the dust
Holy shit, what the hell happened to the Knight Aberrant? I went to Damdara early, and they buffed the hell outta this guy.
A slime appears.
>>544728190Knight Errant/Dark Skeleton pack>Two skeletons to Sap you>Other two and knight destroy you in three hits>All on Turn 1Draconian ain't fucking around.
>>544727771same for brave exvius
Giving every NPC a name/title is an odd addition. It reminds me a bit of the little superficial things Pokemon games would do to stand out from each other, like the gender-based text color in FRLG.Man I love DQ1. It's up there with 5 and 8 for optimum comfiness.
>>544729078Update: I also almost got one-turned by the double Prestidigitator encounter.
...I kinda feel bad that I survived my double Prestidigitator encounter.I ran for my fucking life with 2 HP, but I survived.
>>544728190I got him to orange health and he one shot me for 200 damage
>>544729504>>544729775That's exactly what happened to me. One Sizz, one regular attack, and I managed to skedaddle.
>>544729078...it just occurred to me that every NPC technically had a name in 3make that only displayed when you used Recall, so I guess all they changed is that the text boxes show you that all the time now. Guess someone figured if the work had to be done they wanted everyone to see it?I like that Recall is a general feature now. It's the good kind of """QoL""" that's just a useful thing to have and not a hyper-streamlining of some existing system.
This new overture might be my favorite
anything builders related?
>>544731445Yeah they're building up the walls in Tantegel to keep the slimes out
>>544731445You’ll get more 11 and like it
>>544707737martina is a spanish name?
you think DQXII will be Zenithia related and then we'll get the zenith trilogy remade? what if they just remade all three in one game?
I'm starting to really fucking run out of patience with all the padding in this remaster>have the thing needed for the next step>uh-oh some dumb fucking shit happens and you can't do it without more steps
Isn’t DQ1 only like 30 minutes
>>544733726If you knew exactly where to go and beelined the original, that's not too unreasonable an estimate.
>>544733726Not with all the padding they added, that's for sure. Make you feel like you're stuck in mud and not moving.
Spiketail just did 4 breath attacks in a row what the fuck
>>544734432that's all the enemies do after a while>freezing blizzard>freezing blizzard>freezing blizzard>uuh>freezing blizzardhope you have the ice shield
>>544734816Hero gets Insulatle at level 32 I'm just gonna grind a few levels
>>544734432That guy is so retardedly overtuned, you have no choice but to grind about his 100% damage quad breath combo. even with anti ice gear you take 300 damage without a turn.
>>544735012Don't set it to dracky mode.
>>544735263Make me
>>544734816Under 50% HP he switches to inferno breath so your anti-ice gear gear doesn't do shit anymore.
>>544728190bro, your fairie foil + zombie armor + wildside scroll?
>>544735263I didn't I beat the Knight Aberrant for 20k exp and gained 2 levels plus Erdrick's armor.
>>544182027i hope the remake has optional party members with some semblance of character like Ivor from angel falls. I was so disappointed that he wasn't joining me on my big adventure playing it all those years ago
>he used the elevating shoesyou did not beat the game
Is the auroral helm in DQ1 remake?
>>544740485Yeah, but you gotta do the bard dude's quest for it.
>glowing seeds from the flower fielduhh, I don't remember this>that fight in the faerie village>just spam cop out and winI don't remember this spell either...
The whole enhanced moved when at less than 50% HP gimmick has to be one of the worst conceived battle gimmick. Using an offensive move with less than 50% health is a death sentence so you never get to.
Well I guess the postgame of 3 is definitely non-canon
>>544720834Heres one who shows the final boss and ending of 2, at least he has the balls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgaODpJjWTY
They finally made your outfit change when you equip all of Erdrick's equipment I wish 3 had that
handsome boy
I find it very funny how they open 1HD with Hero helping some helpless soldiers take out a horde of monsters, including a skeleton and a prestidigitator.I know for a fact his ass is not handling that at level 1, those soldiers carried.
>>544741023Really? Hmm... gonna try that.
>>544747813>Outright stated in the ending that Erdrick can't go back to their own world, even though that's where Xenlon dwellsIt never was.
>>544752469Moonbrooke's boyfriend
>>544757121I hate so much the name translation, original ones had the merit to be simple, here it feels like theyre trying so hard
i think the additions to 1 for the most part are a detriment to the game overall. the best part about it was the simplicity and pick up and finish in a day nature to it. everything takes forever in the remake and your freedom feels more restricted. i like some of the story additions such as my wife’s nightmares but i honestly think seeing her before saving her ruins the moment a tad bit. also i hate the female guard.
To anybody who has finished or at least seen DQ2, I have a spoiler-iffic question. After defeating Malroth, do we get the original DQ2 ending and credits and the continuation follows from that after you save, or does it do something different before the end? I just want to know when to cut myself off.
>>544763594It looks good at has great music at least. What would you say the best version of 1 is now then?
If we had a Bianca/Nera style choice split between Moonbrooke and Cannock-chan who would you marry?
>>544763594>the best part about it was the simplicity and pick up and finish in a day nature to itThat was never the case with 1 though. It was always meant to be something that took weeks to finish. Just because you can look up a guide and speedrun it in a few hours doesn't mean it was supposed to be a short and sweet game like Megaman or something.
I like most additions to I so far, but having just one dude fighting a mob can get pretty stupid sometimes depending on the rng.
>>544769314super fami is my favorite version.>>544769720i beat the game in 12 hours the very first time i played it without looking up anything.
you will want to get mini medals, trust me.
Got the game today for switch, it's odd how the case has a reversible cover yet DQ3 HD2D didn't have one and it was just white on the inside.Anyways played up to the erdrick shrine in DQ1 since I got work soon, it's nice the game has a secret spot and treasure marker option.
>>544773764Japan got a reversible cover for 3 but we didn’t so they listened to the complaints about it.
>>544735259DQ1 Draconian is retardedly overtuned starting with the Faerie Village Dragon Zombies. The level curve as the EXP sets you up gets you to maybe 25 at that point, I grinded to 29 and still was one rounded from the start.I have a sneaking suspicion they balanced Draconian to work with DQ2 and the just ported those same multipliers and AI parameters to DQ1. The difference in HP and double action rate in DQ1 makes a lot of the late game level checks that you have to just out HP.The armour guarding the Erdricks Armour in Damdara is going to smash you for 320 HP and the only thing outside of grinding is getting lucky with dodges because some skills go through Cop Out and Defending Champion.>>544735582That's why you have fire resist gear in your inventory.
>>544769687Neither because I'm not a cousin fucking jeet
>>544774724I just fought the 4 skeletons and the heavy knight in the Faerie village on Draconian and I died multiple times trying to think of "what am I missing" outside of grinding. Ultimately I used the skill Cop Out and died a few more times realizing, "I'll eventually win as long as I get good RNG." I eventually won because of good RNG, but it didn't feel fun or like I actually strategized well. It was literally just me getting the procs necessary for the enemies to kill themselves on me rather than me coming to a conclusive strategic solution to win the fight.
>>544769687Moonbrooke is hotter but I would probably pick Cannock-chan just to piss off her brother
>>544775314Did you have wild side?
>>544775491I did have Wild Side, I'd die in the second round after using it even if I fully healed. I also used dodgy dance, but that was also something that required RNG. Personally I think every fight should give you a fair shot at beating it on the first try on hardest difficulties in JRPG's otherwise it's not well designed.
>>544775314Yeah That's how I did that encounter as well, it wasn't that bad because there's a decent chance to not die, not fun, but not absurd.Later on into the game there's nothing you can do except face tank shit, putting up too many buffs is pointless because they last for only for 3-5 turns, which again would be fine with three party members, but when you're just one character buffs are useless outside vanishingly few cases.
>>544776340I just don't see it as a very fun challenge. Maybe 2 is better? Even then I think that there's JRPG's that do hard modes even better, or make the hard modes the truly intended experience. Draconian feels far more numerical in this game as opposed to 11 where it felt just right. I didn't play 3 remake.
level 30 is not max level
>>544776867Draconian felt better to me in 3 than in 11, where it evened out pretty early aside from a couple of damage sponge enemies.
>>544776867I agree. I'm early on into DQ2 and it's immediately feeling more balanced, you're not one shotting early game or being one shotted wandering too far out.DQ3 remake was easy but out of necessity since they couldn't design around a set party.DQ11 draconian was the most fun hard mode I played as a first timer in that title, every encounter was plotted out like a problem to be solved and the huge variety of build and rebuilds with abilities and gear meant you were almost never RNG fucked.Playing subsequent runs in more limited draconians added onto that, well except for the shypox ones which are RNG by design and definitely not for me.
>>544772115That's probably about how long I was playing the game in 6th grade over the course of a week before ultimately dropping it.In that time I hadn't found any Erdrick equipment, saved Gwaelin, or even killed the golem.
>>544763594You summarised my thoughs exactly. Also, how does the new ending of DQ2 connect with the canon of the Erdrick trilogy? Is the final boss a combination of Malroth and Zoma? Or simply a nod to XI? Sometimes simple is better, and I don't like several of the additions in the remakes.
I still want to get an answer to this >>544769289 (You) # so I know when to pause before taking on the new post-Malroth adventure.
>>5447787981 is in my top 5 of the series so i really wanted to love this version of it but it feels the most flawed of them all even the phone ports. definitely looks better and has better music but it drags at times.
>dq1 hd MC's resilience stat gain is so bad that savescumming defense seeds is mandatory.It feels like it's glitched with how low it is.
>>544783935Its probably the same scaling that DQ3's Hero has where its low early on and rapidly scales past a certain point.>>544777980The discrepancy in play time is probably based on the version you play. The shorter runs tend to be on the remakes.
>>544784270Sure ain't getting any better, and this is the dungeon before the dragonlord's castle.
>>544782947NTA but that's kinda sad to hear. DQ3 is my favorite and I wasn't at all impressed with what I played of the HD2D remake. Nothing I saw of 1&2 HD2D in the trailers really wowed me, and based on what I'm hearing it seems like I'll just have to stick with the SFC versions forever. I've been wary about the direction DQ has been going down for a while now.
>>544785091i still like the game overall but i just don’t think it’s great. i imagine the changes probably work better with 2 but i don’t plan on starting that up till sunday.
I'm old enough to remember everyone here bitching that DQ3 HD's hard mode was too easy. But now DQ1 HD is too hard because you can't just steamroll everything? Lmao.
This is why I chose to play DQ1 first before 3. Even with more story filler, it's always going to be the shortest and least involved of the Erdrick trio, which is even more glaring when it's stuck in the middle of 3 and 2. At least doing it first gets it out of the way and builds up better to the more-impressive games.
Damn... I tried to fight the Knight Aberrant at Lv.22, but I couldn't even get him to half health. I used a combination of Dodgy Dance, Faerie Foil, and Cop Out, and I was able to survive like eight minutes of battling before I deleted all my MP. Horii REALLY doesn't want you to get the Erdrick Armour ASAP, huh?
>fight boss>it randomly uses a move when my own attacks one tap mesuch great design.
>>544787561>>544787561>>544787561
Most flawed? Why because Horii decided to maks draconian actually challenging and not a disguised normal mode? I find it hard to believe that this is worse than the older versions aside from your nostalgia being bothered.
>>544786682>The boss prepares to deflect any attack>You have died.
>>544787647I mean, I started 1 on Draconian and I'm enjoying having to actually put some thought into my choices since there's no backup to bail me out.
>>544775053Cute. Happy Halloween, anon
>>544785787it wasn't "everyone", it was one guy that clearly never actually played the game. Everyone else that actually did got difficulty spike'd at the desert, even on normal, and didn't dare call the game easy
