Welcome to the Dragon Quest General! Everything related to the Dragon Quest series, also known as Dragon Warrior, is discussed here.Kamehameha EditionLast Thread: >>544787561>News• Dragon Quest Smash/Grow, a Roguelite RPG for Android & iOS. Closed beta ran from October 14, 2025 to October 21, 2025.• Dragon Quest VII Reimagined. Launches February 5, 2026, on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.>Now Available• Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince. Available on Switch, PC, and mobile.• Dragon Quest Builders. Now on PC with all mobile port QoL features.• Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai. Available on PS4, PS5, Switch, and PC.• Dragon Quest Treasures. Available on Switch and PC.>Other Updates• Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of Fate. Officially announced, title revealed. No further details yet.>Guides:• /dqg/ Beginner's Guide to Dragon Quest: https://imgur.com/gallery/kE7vCn2Versions to Play/Buy: https://pastebin.com/TcW5bgqv• DQM3 Resource: https://dev.metalkid.info/DQM3/Monsterpedia• Dragon Quest IX DLC/Treasure Map Searcher: https://pastebin.com/Paf0Ypme• DQB2 Resources: https://pastebin.com/ykdKc201• DQX Resources: https://pastebin.com/kE3XGQNS>Links:• ROMs/Hacks/Mods/Translations: https://pastebin.com/QbQS5i2S• Anime/TV: https://pastebin.com/a2cRRuzi• Music: https://pastebin.com/NceqwLAa• 日本DQ Wiki: https://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/• DQ Art, Guide Books, Non-H Doujins: https://pastebin.com/GnaCV4vW>OPhttps://pastebin.com/RSbUEyfQ>BROTHERS IN ARMS>>>/vg/eagg/
>"[Reimagined] follows the narrative of the original story, but depending on some of the player choices, players will get to see a new conclusion that's never been seen before in previous iterations," Ichikawa tells me. "So, even players who have played previous versions of Dragon Quest VII, they'll still get to have this fresh narrative experience with Reimagined."
>>545378334she gonna get it
Wow the true ending of 2 is so cool they went above and beyond
>>545382605I can only imagine how much more comes after it if S-E won't let anybody spoil it.
but thou must!
>Prince Cannock can equip and unequip cursed gear with no penalties after being healed in BeranThey're really determined to make up for his past flimsiness, aren't they?
>>545393193He has gigaslash, kazap, kazing, omniheal etc he's a beast late game
So it seems like dodgy dance and high evasion equipment makes copout work 100% of the time.I'm guessing in the coding copout raises your evasion, and then a successful evade redirects the attack? Either way I'm shitting on the knight abberant at level 20 in draconian with this strat. Too bad my break is over and I have to work for another bit before I can conclude the fight, I've had a successful copout like 7 times in a row now.
The Sigil system is annoying me. It's such a pain to even Trigger these abilities half the time, and while the majority of them are just "skill but better" like Gryphalfon slash and Searing Blade, some change function drastically. Like Midenhall's Focus Pocus being a self Oomph effectTHEN I still have to go through a cross check which of these fucking skills Gains hits from Falcon blade/Mercury's While trying to extrapolate vague defense values off bosses to determine at what Strength thresholds is Falcon blade > Erdrick's swordAND I swear to god if there's not another Wild Side Scroll in the post game so I don't actually have to Choose Middenhall or Cannock and they can just both have it.
The underwater overworld is kind of a slog to explore, just like in dq6. Is there any important place to go other than the sanctuary east of mersea and that spot up north with the ghost ship?
>>545393913I had evasion gear and when using cop out it sometimes would just make me dodge.
>>545393913Evasion and cop out are separate, if cop out fails the enemy's attack can still miss you. They're still nice to stack as insurance, though.
>Finally recruit Lady Moonbrooke and the overworld changes to the more chill traveling themeIt's like coming home to an old friend, though I still like the GBC chiptune just a tiny bit more.
God, DQ1 is a slog as it goes on. I really enjoyed it at first but once you've seen most of the world it's just unpleasant. And I completed the original years ago so this isn't me being a zoomer casual.
>>545394008Do you know you can trigger them by having the HP or MP regen abilities active? Not as bad as having to be nearly dead in games where the you might just be crit to death at any point.
>>545395661>spoilersSame. Travelling with Friends is my favourite overworld theme but I don’t like the arrangement in HD all that much.
>>545395982i felt the opposite for the remake, i thought the start of 1 was really bad and it wasnt till you get gwaelin that it got great and i loved the rest.
Which one of Hargon’s lieutenants is your favourite?
Oh, man. Giving the Puff-Puff scroll to Midenhall was absolutely the correct choice. It does absolutely bonkers damage. As expected of a strongman's Puff-Puff...
>>545404010There's 2 of them anyway
He won't go to sleep :( Or if he does, he wakes up immediately.
>>545404986piccolo with blue hair wearing beige gloves
>>545394928>>545395279Yeah after 13 times he finally started landing hits. Guess this really isn't possible now since even through all that and critting himself he wasn't even in the yellow.
>>545394008Some of them are really good combined with oomph + a sapped enemy, I was doing 1000+ damage with double dragon slash against a strong boss.
>>545404986The altered lips now make the troll look like Homer Simpson.
>>545395661>>545398735Even though I played DQ2 well before, I'll always think of it as the Heroes victory theme now. It works so well in that context.
Moonbrooke's howl is so cutehttps://files.catbox.moe/tx9f5f.webm
>>545407242>tfw no howling gf
should i prioritize cannock for all the offensive spell scrolls?
Damn, the green dragon is brutal. His breath attacks are worthless but his normal attacks hit like a truck and almost one tap me at full health if they crit.Not sure whether its time to grind or if maybe casting buff on myself twice would help. Though maintaining buff and reheal would be kinda difficult when he can just roar and waste my turns.Or do I break my preferred way to play DQ and crack open my seeds now instead of at the final boss?
>>545411072cop out
>>545410779Moonbrooke. Cannock has his Falcon Blade + Elemental Slash stuff.
>>545411538He attacks physically so infrequently usually that I'd probably run out of MP before he dies.
>no party chat in 2What were they thinking?
>>545400946I like the early stuff where you're exploring new places and it's got that sense of adventure. Getting the princess is cool at first, especially if you keep carrying her and see the alternate scenes, but some point after that the enemies become damage sponges and the game feels like it's more about endlessly healing up after bruising battles.
>>545412708>the game feels like it's more about endlessly healing up after bruising battles.This has been the experience for me since the very beginning of the game. I figured thats why they give you so much MP.
>>545412375This has been bothering me, too. Both of the cousins are made more interesting but not given enough time to shine. Also a lot of missed opportunity to give Midenhall some backstory.
Feel like it's probably the best idea to ask here: Even in the newest games, you can only get 1 item from a single enemy, right? Or did they change it to one enemy being able to drop multiple items?Not counting stealing.
>>545414843Always ever one item drop per battle, always dropped from the last monster to be slain.
What's the best way to go about changing vocations? Thinking of either changing my thief or my priest. Just got to the Maw of the Necrogond.Just change one and come to the maw with a full party?
>>545414081It would lead to them giving too much personality to them and not in a good way. The cousins have never been "characters" so deciding only now to overwrite them into actual people is just asking for trouble.
>>545400946>start is a slogdid not use elevating shoes, actually played the game>>545395982>the start was easy!You skipped 95% of the leveling experience and learning the play the game by using elevating shoes. Even when you kill the dragonlord, you will not have beaten the game.
>No one anywhere online has a GameInformer subscription and is willing to screenshot the DQ7R articleSuppose I can't blame them, I'm too cheap to pay for it.
>>545417941Wizard -> Sage with your free sage book is a fine choice, gives you two healers. Changing one to Monster Master also helps with collecting monsters if you're interested in that, and getting access to Wild Side eventually is a great bonus.
>>545417941grind them until you have learned every spell for their vocations first
>>545419631I've got everything for the thief, thinking of going for the monster wrangler.
>>545415047That's how I thought it worked, too, but while polishing code, I looked online to see if I coded it correctly, and people claimed they got up to 3 treasure chests and that the last 3 defeated enemies count.Checked some longplay on YouTube and didn't see any extra drops, thought I'd ask here to see if anybody knows or remembers getting more than once, because I sure as hell didn't.I thought I'd leave it at that, but then decided to boot up XI just to double-check, and got 2 chests after a couple of battles, so it's possible to get at least 2 drops from a battle. Going to change my code to reflect that as well.Thanks, anyway, though.
>Cunnock can steal from monsters>steal and drop tables are different so you can’t steal seeds Suffering.
>>545418384Per a DQber I follow the biggest takeaways are the return of party chat, new story elements, and decisions you make throughout the game influencing the ending you receive
>>545422886that’s pretty neat, this might set the precedent for DQ12
feeding princess moonbrooke all the seeds
>>545423494
The underwater exploration feels so miserable.
>>545423962i need giant moonbrooke now
>>545378334WIll we be able to save the Elf Girl?
>>545411982you wont, trust me
>>545422886Thanks anon. Checking out the video.>>545423474I had the same thought.
That's it, I'm gonna buy 1+2 HD
11 is much too easy... I accidentally wandered into the Dora fight early but swept it with no deaths. Surely the game picks up in challenge eventually right?
>>545429000Are you playing with the Stronger Monsters setting on at base minimum?
>>545417941Thief (final skill) > Wrangler (Wild Side) > Merchant > WarriorPriest (Kazing) > Wrangler > Gadabout > SageWizard (Kaboom) > Wrangler (Wild Side) > Priest (Kazing) > Martial ArtistThat will give you all of the skills needed for the trophy. The relevant endgame vocations when you're finally ready to specialize are Thief/Merchant/Sage with an honorable mention to Mage.
>>545429349I'm pretty sure I turned everything onto the hardest settings I could. There hasn't been anything in the game that's forced me to look twice at my tactics yet
>>545422886>decisions you make throughout the game influencing the ending you receiveFeel free to call me out if this is a bad opinion but I don't think a plodding 100 hour game needs multiple endings, especially not implemented like that.
>>545430008If you turned on everything you'd be going through hell.Though if you turned on everything but stronger monsters the game is still a breeze, you can beat it underleveled even without much issue.
>>545427832Well if my next attempt doesn't work out I'll try it. I gained a level trying to explore the weird woods or whatever they called it and got some lucky metal slime kills so I'll likely gain another level on my way back to the dragon.Is it normal to be slower than the dragon? That was another issue for me, the fact that if I did get crit by him, I would be guaranteed to die before I could get a heal off if he did another bite. I was Lv.22 on my original attempts.
>>545436692Nvm I have brain damage, I was level 21 originally.
Anyone know how much the pirate king’s pendant increases drop rates? I seen something that says drops range from 0.75 to 5.12 without the pendant and aren’t effected by luck.
DQ1 really suffers from the sole hero thing. I have to admit, I kind of struggled through the end of DQ1 but getting into DQ2 it felt like a pleasure. I'd say this new release feels like DQ1 felt like a bonus game they kind of half-assed as a bonus to accompany DQ2.
Fuck the Armageddon fight in DQ1.I'm not in any danger of losing at all, but the constant healing is just making it a massive slog.
>>545436692>Lv 22 > 23>HP 188 > 200>Strength 107 > 115>Agility 109 > 113Hey, that's a pretty good level up! Might really make the difference.Well anyways I've got a total of 185 Attack and 229 Defence now, hopefully its enough. I blew my life savings on some Dragon Mail just for the extra bit of defence
>>545440180Phew, the reheal and buff strat worked out, although I feel like mostly it was just the game giving me plot armor as I did not get critted a single time and only was stunned by the roar once. A much different experience from my previous attempts where I would often get stunned by the roars and half of the physical attacks would crit me.
>>545441629I got very lucky with roars through my whole playthrough, but bosses getting a lucky crit at orange health and instantly killing you from 2/3 of your HP is inescapable.
>>545442408I think 1 could have really gone without boss crits. Or just not made them do retarded amounts of damage. The risk of instantly dying because you sat below 90% HP against any boss is insane.
>>545440142Somehow I got lucky with him getting paralyzed off a Copped Out attack. The rest of the fight was a quick sweep after that.
One thing I've enjoyed about all the HD-2D remakes are the new bosses. It's fun to see random monster types get a moment in the sun. The lump in DQ2 wiped me out for the first time in that game. He's not that much like grandpa from Dai, but I have to assume that crossed someone's mind when they were picking which monsters to bossify.>>545455192This also happened to me, more than once. Gwaelin's prayers also helped a lot, even though I had to take her home right after.
>>545455192It's just sad that I wound up having a easier time just unga-bungaing the guy by just always using Undead Undoer or Flame Slash and using Moreheal at half HP than I did trying to use skills like Cop Out or Dodgy Dance.Though I did equip evasion armor instead of high defense stuff...
Kaclang as a strategy is fun. Draconian isn't messing around.
>>545458157Weird, they almost look like 3D models instead of sprites
>>545458157this looks different than it did in 3 a bit, or am i crazy?
>>545458586No, it's the same effect.>>545458584The power of normal maps, baby.
It's annoying that secret spot layouts keep getting reused again and again. It's not like they need to be huge or use unique assets or anything, just move the rocks around a little.
>>545459790>that one single forest secret spot that has a gravestone in it, and a massive spike of lag when the tree fades to reveal it>one of a kind area through the entire game>no explanation whatsoever
On my last ticket I got an "upgrade" from second to first at the oasis tombola after already winning first, so now I have two silver platters and no rosewhip
>>545460262That area was in III remake too. I thought it was related to Toriyama at the time but it was probably made before he died.
>>545422886And they've removed the casino, the thing that rates your appearance and I remember some example of censorship but I can't remember what it was.
>>545465076One for Sugiyama in III, one for Toriyama in I&II!...maybe. In any case, I was just talking about III, didn't know there was another one in I&II. Not that it's a big spoiler or anything.
>>545465726Oh. Well having completed I, I can say that area isn't in that game but I thought you were saying it was in II. So maybe it isn't. It is a weird thing to have, though - especially in a genre where something like that is usually clickable with a bit of lore attached to it (like Ortega's grave in I) but in the case of III it's just there, out of reach.
>>545420178are you making a mod?
The brute bat is a complete dog shit fight. Just a non-stop barrage of mindless CC effects. I hope whoever designed this trash steps on a thumb tack without a shoe on
>try to rush obtaining the princess of Cannock in the party>get mauled by a giant bati'm tempted to cheat.
Are there any scrolls worth saving for the brat?
>>545470723You can get more, no need to save.
>Roll for the coupon at the oasis>Get the long ass boisterous fanfare for fucking silver platters.
>>545467995If your on Draconian, going for Matilda right after getting the boat (Lv.20 or so) is straight up impossible. The party-wide bite might as well be a TPK. Matilda DOES have dialog for every single story event after obtaining her, though. If you care about reading all her dialog, temporarily turn the difficulty to Dracky to get her ASAP. You should be able to handle Yggdrasil on Draconian afterward with good item management. That's what I did, anyway.
>>545471714nta but thanks for the tip I'll ahve to remember that when I get to II
>>545471714Yeah, even with the gear from dirkandor it's completely hopeless.
Turns out IHD is just a multi-hour tutorial for one potentially ass-saving mechanic that also works in II.
>>545473347cop out quest
I knew I should have bought Cop Out stocks before the remake came out
>>545473347Wow, Chad is never gonna live that one down
maybe they're expanding the ending for new scenes?
What exactly determines the cost to resurrect a character? Is MP valued much higher than HP or something? Moonbrooke costs like 3x as much as the boys to bring back to life.
>The prince can equip cursed items without the negative consequencesis that something new?
So I guess they're adding more costumes since they have those chests for giving you the dog and cat costumes? The set up seems too much when they could just give you them at the start of the game automatically.
>>545478260As in Cannock or Midenhall? I heard earlier it was Cannock after a certain event.
>>545478859It's after you save him from the curse, and then the midenhall curse guy tells you about it.
>>545473583This kind of thing is why I was briefly vegan. Not to be a moralfag but it is kind of weird we eat these guys.
>>545478260Yes, it's new.>>545478767Not necessarily. Dragon Quest III never received any additional DLC, it has the same setup. I think it's better than cluttering up the menu with a dedicated "redeem DLC" option like XI had.
Between the mutism and the bullying he’s subjected to because of his inability to use magic they really made Midenhall feel “special”
Can somebody please give me a really good grinding spot in DQ2 HD2D for gold.I'm 17k in, I want the mink mantle, and Ive grinded so much I hit level 40.HELP ME!
>>545482276Magic's overrated his ancestor Ortega was an unga bunga axe wielder and went solo all the way to Zoma's castle without a rainbow bridge.
>X
>>5454871909 is an undeniably S tier game no matter how you spin it.I also refuse to acknowledge 7 as being the best since it's one of the few games to make you suffer irl fatigue from playing it.
Does Serena ever grow a personality? At this point I'd have been happier if they'd just kept Gemma in the party. She does the same thing but is cuter and childhood friend coded
>>545497716a little bit way late in the game but not really, Veronica hard carrying the sisters
It seems so hard for magic to do it's think vs just going physical dps in 11...There must be some way to make Veronica a hypercarry with her channel anger and the double cast skills (do they stack btw?) but it seems so much less effective compared to simply having her Sap and Oomph so mc or Jade or Eric can destroy everything. I'm very tempted to dump everyone but Veronica, Serena and Rab just to see how long they'll last until hitting a wall.
>>545471714>MatildaIt's Macaron.The characters are Loran, Cookie, Pudding and Macaron.
>>545502468Of course magic isnt going to do well if you're not using the magic defense debuff...
>>545502930I haven't seen anyone else learn Spooky Aura so that's get another thing locked to Veronica that she has to set up instead of buffing twice and dropping nukes
>>545502892You will never be Japanese.
>>545502892Please save the localization shitposting for /v/, thank you.
>Have to get like 70k gold and hope for an Elevating Shoes drop to get all the items in DQ1Shame on me for not pre-ordering I guess?
If you change your party leader, you get different reactions to mirrors.
>>545502468Yeah, DQ has always had this problem. Martial goes up with Attack, but Magic only gets increased Damage at certain Wisdom/Magical.Might thresholds.Magic Burst + Elven Elixier is still an easy way to nuke enemies, but physical will always be faster and more efficient.
need the new gacha to get its own ost like ffbehttps://youtu.be/UgfbO_HcSskalso don't get why they haven't made ffbe but dq. ffbe with a full party of dq characters felt like playing dq mobile. game lasted 10 years instead of the other battle royale or not-dq slop they have been shitting out
>>545523127Dragonlord's Castle 1F on Dracky makes it go by quickly. Equip the two pirate pendants for better drop chance. Once you get the shoes, farm gold outside the Sanctum since gold golems can spawn there.
>>545531586When's the last time a Dragon Quest spinoff has gotten new music? Young Yangus?
>>545535608Could be Swords, though that wasn't Sugiyama. I haven't played all the Joker games, but maybe one of those?
>>545536309You're right, I had forgotten about Swords.>2007So nearly 20 years since a spinoff had an original soundtrack. Incredible. No comment on the Jokers because those are also on my to-do list.
Just had a 30 minute conversation with a real 40+ yo Japanese salaryman (working at a Toyota plant in the US) about Dragon Quest. DQ1 has been giving him trouble but he has too much pride to play on dracky mode. When I told him there was no shame in grinding on dracky his response was that yes, it was very shameful, and he’d have to start over from the beginning if he succumbed to temptation. He was very excited about the 7 remake because the original is what he played in college instead of socializing.
>>545536874Most current spin-offs are explicitly based on other games, and so reuse their soundtracks to evoke them.i.e., DQB1&2 -> DQ1&2, DQMTDP -> DQ4, DQT -> DQ11, etc.
THEORY: The failed hero party of DQ1 followed Alef and Gwaelin to the new continent and their descendants interbred with Erdrick’s line. Moonbrookes can trace their ancestry to the mediocre mage, Cannocks to the failed hero, and Midenhalls to the timid martial artist. The personalities, combat aptitudes, and most importantly hair colours all fit.
>>545536890Based.No point in playing on higher difficulties if you aren't grinding on the higher difficulties as well.
can i get girl cannock as soon as i get my boat?
>>545531159I feel like it's more due to the amount of multipliers you can get on physical. It's not just having high attack or Oomph. it's the mix of high attack, Oomph, Sap, falcon effects, debuffs, crits, ailment shit. Typically that'd be solved with a buffed element system but DQ has never focused on making elemental bonuses what they should be and even when they are impactful you once again swap to an elemental weapon instead to benefit from more multipliers.
>>545540541I'm of the opinion this is fine because often when you learn a new spell it deals a fuckton of damage in comparison to your other tools so it feels good to suddenly get a big dick power spike. I guess it is a bit of a problem in newer games though, where you have easy access to whips and boomerangs and such that make multi-target spells less valuable.
>>545536890Very cute. Was this in Japanese/is he fluent in English? No reason other than the idea of you both overcoming a language barrier to have the conversation is charming.
>>545539293Purple hair comes from Erdrick's mom
In what world do we job to fucking useless Jasper? Jesus.... and I had to do so much work to get up this bitch ass tree and THREE other people are allowed to hijack my work!?
>>545553315>He thought he would get through the adventure with no adversity
Huh?? I have to use the mini-map underwater?? Please tell me I get a map upgrade later because this fucking blows.
>>545547023Impeccable English, in my experience the guys they send over to run things tend to have gone to school in America or have familial ties to America.
>>545554447Of course not, but an unwinnable fight against Jasper is just pathetic.
What should I change my mage into in DQ3? Already got:HeroPriest->MAThief->MWMage->???
>>545540541>>545541080IIRC DQ9 was the game that introduced magical might/mending and caster sugar/channel anger/spooky aura for mages to be able to compete with physical offense in the long term but it also messed with them in other ways such as high mp costs and long learn periods.Mage/Sage could still compete against select bosses if they were weak to Kafrizzle/Kazammle but otherwise, they were busy on buff/debuff/crowd control duty. Funnily enough the best caster weapons in that game were Hammers and Bows...
>>545559383A thief so you can get nose for treasure, padfoot, snoop etc
>>545560227He already has someone that went through thief.>>545559383Priest if you already have Kaboom. Sage if you don't.
>>545560139As one-note as the tension system in 9 was I did genuinely find it far more fun to play with than pep.
Dragon Quest 5 having such a robust creature capture system in a game that encourages you to just stick with your family of humans is such a waste...
>>545563658I'm not sure what the solution is while still keeping the game's identity. A remake should definitely overhaul and expand the monster system (I dream of monsters with co-op attacks and 11-style skill trees), but at the end of the day most players are going to have hero, wife and kids as the active party no matter what you do.
Reheal scroll on Cannock or Moonbrooke? I'm leaning towards Cannock bc he's faster but idk for sure.
>>545564194Maybe have a Neptunia styled support system where you have a front facing unit and then another one giving passive buffs or jumping in for odd attacks? It would give you a reason to swap around monsters and heck, you could even get the humans to support each other so that you can have your whole family in the active party whilst still having slots for frontrow monsters.The big issue that could occur with this system is certain characters becoming far too good in the backrow to even consider sticking in the front. Or by having a generic early monster being somehow meta all game due to automatically healing or Oomphing or something
>>545565260Cannock makes sense. Moonbrooke has better things to be doing with her turns
im glad the new games are hd2d because 3d games make me motion sick. something about how the camera moves in modern games always fucks me up.
Does Oomph stack with Muster Strength in DQ2Re?
>>545563658You don't get the family until late in the game you're using monsters for 3/4 of it
>>545566869i'd get that checked out if i were you, might be early onset symptoms of something bad that you're still in time to catch and cure
All that you have seen, more than most do in a lifetime, has led you to the clonclusion that you simply need...more guns and buns. Is that correct?
>>545568582idk what it would even be so idk how they would check for anything but i dont get it with older 3d titles at all. its just something about how modern games cameras work or something.
>>545569729many such cases xenlon massa
>>545566193I definitely think the hero and maybe also the daughter should have abilities that let them call on monsters (in more interesting ways than pile-on). Another thing I'd like to see is a monster-only optional dungeon or two.
Does anyone know if running increases the encounter rate?
How hard is it to keep the princess for the entirety of DQ1HD?
>>545578329Just remember to get the Sunstone from Tantegel Castle as soon as you have the magic key and you're set. Even if you don't do that you can keep her for quite a while. She appears and has lines in most cutscenes and later on she even helps in battle, so it's worth hanging onto her.
>Show treasure chests, hidden grottos and the ability to heal on level are all optionalInteresting
>>545579808I was pleasantly surprised that it's all off by default. I don't even think there's a tutorial pop-up about it.
OK, what's the destination if I want to recruit Cannock's sister ASAP?
>falcon blade of ruin (no penalties)>wild side into divide >falcon slash into quadraslash (into octoslash) Heh, nothing personal, prince Mid -enhall..
>You can actually just Zoom out of Burrowell to postpone picking a sideI don't know how significant this even is, but that's funny.
>>545587353There’ve been a bunch of scenes where you have to agree with, or cheer up one cousin or another.I wonder if there’s an affection system that will affect an ending scene or something.
>>545392316'Tis folly.
>>545586431Anyone?
I'm in the 1% that beat all of DQ2. Requirements for the true ending:Beat the vanilla endingCollect all 7 memoriesCollect all of Erdrick's equipment Beat Dragonlord's Great-Grandson in a fightFind the sphere of light
>>545589313Do you get to dive deeper in the ocean at some point? I’ve scoured the entire seabed yet I’ve only found two memories.
>>545590238Yes the harp gets upgraded to dive deeper.
>>545589116??????
>monkey boss>obsessed with banana Soul.
>>545589116>>545590804Beran, bottom left corner of the map. There’s a boss fight you’ll want to be 20+ for. 25+ if you’re playing on draconian.
>Elevating Shoes (Easy early game Exp and +50 Luck)>Cat Suit (+55 Defense. Best armor for the Hero until you get to Manoza and swap it for the Silver Cuirass)>Steel Broadsword (+32 Attack. Best single target weapon for the Hero until the Iron Axe at Ibis)Having all the Pre-order and Collector's Edition DLC feels good!
>>545600990Thank you.
>>545601196I gave the cat suit to my squishy perverted old man mage.In my headcanon he thinks he can get away with peeping in windows if he’s disguised as a cat.
>>545601196How did you get all the DLCs? The only preorder DLC for Steam was the Elevating shoes and a bunch of seeds.
>>545601617Use this if you're on Steam which gives you all of the Pre-order and Collector's Edition in game items:>https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonquest3remake/mods/21Also use this for DQ 1 & 2 HD Remake if you want all of the Pre-order and CE in game items:>https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonquest1and2hd2dremake/mods/11
>>545569918could be anything and could be related to everything, even stuff like your fucking ears
>>545601389Based Lore writer
Carrying around the Princess is so cute... It heals my sovl
These act 2 vignettes kinda do kill the pace... knowing that it all gets retconned with the time travel and no character development in these segments matter kills a lot of the enjoyment.
>>545623538It doesn't get retconned the timelines kind of merge and characters have deja vu about stuff that happened.
>>545628856How will they justify Gemma meeting Ireburn if Serenica saves proto-Roto?
>>545628856Still doesn't explain how the mermaid comes back to life if she died for her forbidden love.
They kill the pace really quite badly actually... I'm almost done with Rab's which tbf is probably the most charming interlude but we didn't need gameplay segments for Erik wandering through a cave or Sylvando and his merry men. Visiting the ruined towns and battling off the monster inhabitants could easily have been done in a proper DQ4 style of actually letting us travel around and take part in the quests ourselves instead of using it as half assed character development. I still find it stupid that we couldn't at least put up a fight on Yggy... my party is strong!! I could at least take the basic forms on!
I've got 6 memories and I have no idea where the other one is. I got the one from the sea lord and the ghost ship, all the others were just by sailing around. Is the other one in an interest area or do I just have to keep looking around the map? Feels like I already covered everything.
>>545632557The guard right outside the mermaid queen's room tells you where each memory is.
I've never used the bank as much as I am in the HD-2D games.
>>545633634Thanks. Can't believe I missed that, could have saved some time.
>III HD-2D calls it Blasto>II HD-2D calls it Bazoom???
>save gwaelin>randomly discover i've had a wild side scroll for god knows how longGee that probably would have helped a lot against the dragon. Anyways what am I supposed to do at the weird woods? I can't even find any NPCs that mention it, I figured the faeries would know or something.
>>545638332Gwaelin does her Rubiss power and reveals the map in the woods when you walk to a certain part.
>>545636536>VII remake: AWOOGA!!
Now that the dust has settled...Would (you) recommend the HD-2D Remakes for newcuties over the originals?
>Mummy dearest (rippleport boss) just one shots me on draconianwhat do i do here? is level 16 just underleveled for this part?
>>545649014Yeah that's underleveled you would get fucked up on normal too.
>>545649014I was around the same 17 on the Midenhall/Cannock and 16 on moonbrooke but managed to win on draconian by perma snoozing the Mummy and Fizzling the twisted sister. If you get to i think 18 you learn Kabuff and Magic Barrier which would have made it so much easier.
Holy shit, fuck the mirage fight in 1HD.>no way to resist dazzle>no way to resist poison>no way to resist spell sealing>have to rely on the barely effective banishing bell>mirage has naturally high evade and calls reinforcements when you kill one of himI'd rather beat my head against the wall that is the knight abberant, and even if I kill him, I'm still probably going to grind a couple levels out before trying this shitfest again.
>>545650765If its anything like 3HD, increasing your raw luck stat is better than using ailment resist accessories.
>>545651456I mean, I can't do much in regards to that either. I could only put on an extra like 8 luck by equipping the stuff that resists other ailments.
>>545651879No Hen's Tooth/Elevating Shoes?
>>545652074Nope.
>>545650765Use the staff of sentencing wind gust ability on them
>>545649817So far, I haven't had luck in putting any ailments on any bosses.
Anyone know what effects Matilda’s chances of stealing an item?
>>545652792For me Snooze was basically guaranteed but Fizzle was hit or miss, just being able to shut down those crazy physical attacks was enough for me to build momentum and win.
>>545652449Wouldn't they resist woosh since they cast swoosh? Hell its woosh, isn't it only like 15-20 damage in the first place?
>>545653435Dying Fire was weak to woosh in 3HD
Star Sigil defend + Focus Pocus + Wizardly Waft is so good for mid dungeon MP regen holy shit
>>545652940Luck
I like that the hero of DQ1 actually attacks during the end of battle cutscene with the dragonlord instead of just standing there while he does whatever he was trying to do with the sphere of light. Don't know why he leaves Erdrick's sword behind though.
>>545657047Cause it has to be there where it is in DQ2, i guess
man, how the fuck am i gonna remember the 100+ places you need the magic key in DQ2 once i get it.
>>545655354Thanks, I’ll give her two sets of elevating shoes and pump all my luck seeds into her then. Unless you mean it’s all RNG and I’m the one in need of luck. If that’s the case I’m fucked.
ngl, chat, dream-whisperer actin’ super sus right now fr fr
>>545658078I've been writing them all down for once. It's a long list.
>>5456457233 I could definitely recommend for newbies... 1 and 2 I'm not so sure about. They might still get patched. 1 especially has a strange amount of bullshit but if they could level that out and make it so boss fights aren't reliant on confuse spam I think it could be the definitive version for the aesthetic and cute shit with the princess.2 is just very different... I actually wish they went one stop further and included party chat so it could completely stand on its own. The postgame stuff isn't as good of an addition as they hoped and I'd still probably recommend the Snes version.
>>545658078Write it down! Open notepad on your PC if you play on PC or it's near your game setup. Or use good old fashioned pen'n'paper
>>545645723Not finished with DQ2 yet, but with all three I think it's a matter of what you're looking for. A lot of the value in these early games is getting the authentic experience so you can see the series and genre evolve, and that's mostly gone from the remakes. They're also all way longer, and across three games that really adds up. I wouldn't warn anyone away from them, they introduce a lot of good elements, but it's a very different experience. Like Metroid 1 vs. Zero Mission or something.
>Midenhall can learn puff-puffhuh?
>>545660530You get tricked into getting puff-puffed by big muscular dudes in a couple games
DQ1 is so much easier when you actually use the soul sigil souped up skills. In my first playthrough the green dragon was a long drawn out fight but in this one it was dead in a few turns with double dragon slash.
Is there anything else I should pick up in Tantagel besides the Sun Stone that I won't be able to grab before I go rescue mai waifu?
>>545652449Well it turns out that I gotta grind some cash to afford that thing anyways, so I guess regardless I'm gaining a couple levels before going back to that fight.
>>545663659Anything in the castle that requires the magic key, but I forget if there's anything worthwhile. You can still come into town with Gwaelin later, you just can't get too close to the castle.
>>545663659The snoop scroll is in there and requires the ultimate key so you can't get it if you keep Gwaelin.
>>545664826It just had to be Snoop
>Snoop ScrollWell if push comes to shove then you can consult a guide
What do you need to do to continue the mermaids' plot line in 2? It just stalled after the earring.
>>545665498They're bound up with the main story so it continues as you progress.
>>545665230I will absolutely be doing that because fuck those hidden items that seem to have no real rhyme or reason to their placement.
Shell slime must be the rarest enemy in DQ1 it's supposedly in Damdara but I can't seem to encounter a single one either in the town or the surrounding area.
>>545665737gold key more like magic key more like cocktease key
>>545658078Easy, I'll re-visit every place
ngl im kind of mad they bitched out on Peronel going full Frieren on the demons in Burrowell
They'd better not expect me to give Hendrik and Heliodoor a free pass after acting like an utter prick."I know he burned our village to the ground but he had his reasons."Asking me to kiss up and "let bygones be bygones" When this is all their fault is obnoxious. Japs seem to love this Confucian bullshit where they'd kiss anyone in authority's feet like their shit don't smell.
You can't just greet me like I'm your pal when you've been calling me the Erebonian equivalent of a nigger for the whole game.
>>545672605>I know he burned our village to the ground but he had his reasonsHendrik didn't do that it was Jasper. Hendrik is a lawful good hero paladin type that got duped for almost 20 years by the villain.
bumpkin
>>545672605Hendrik never burned it to the ground, Jasper did. Hendrik was largely unaware of the atrocities being committed.You also can't blame the king when he was literally mind controlled.
what the FUCK? Midenhall can use the Swallowtail boomerang, I thought those weapon types were just for the Cannock siblings but evidently not.
As soon as you can dive, you can go to that spot just to the east of dirkandoor (that you can't access) and you can dive there to get a mountaincleaver.Any other really based diving ginds anons have found?
How fucking dare him!! Why does this piece of shit King have any respect still to his name? Trying to boss me around like I'm his lackey...>"Oh actually he was possessed by an evil guy the whole time and didn't actually do anything wrong. You forgive him right? Since he never did anything bad? Cool, great, moving on."Fucking ridiculous.... I get called a nigger by every knight for the whole game and don't even get a sowwy
>>545674335It wasn't his fault, why you gotta be such a jerk about it
DQ2 was always good.
>>545674236Can’t remember if it’s available immediately or after the ship upgrade, but there’s a massacre sword for Cannock that attacks everything on screen with no damage reduction from target to target.
>>545673341And in 20 years he never once questioned the king doing shady shit? Look how hard he came after us!! How many times and how many people has the king sent Hendrik to manhandle or kill that didn't have our level of plotarmour and strength? Also he called us Nigger, I genuinely want an apology for that.>>545673580If Mordy was in charge for 20 years and didn't raise any flags then Carnelian must have been a fucking shit King. Instead the dude wakes up, flaunts his worthless crown, gets homemade dinners by our mum WHO'S HOUSE HE BURNED DOWN and bosses us around to get him his castle and kingdom back. I genuinely fucking loath this plot development. I have no sympathy for the Heliodoor establishment. We should be getting the kingdom back for either ourselves or for Jade.
>>545675041but where
>>545674517He's camped out in a bitchin ass tent in MY HOMETOWN that HE ordered burned. I'm totally justified in wanting to hold him to account for this.
>>545675047>hunts you to the ends of the earth>shoots your horse with a crossbow>throws you off a cliff>takes over your town, puts on an Erdrick costume and everyone calls him 'hero'>fucks your mum>still treats you like shitNothing personal, Darkspawn
>>545675109Way down below the ocean Where you wanna be, it may beWay down below the oceanWhere you wanna be, it may be Way down below the ocean Where you wanna be, it may be
>>545674335What did you expect from the people who just let Vince go after he killed and force-fed people to a spider monster in return for special powers for years? The party is ultra retarded.
>>545675047>mordegon spends 20 years warning his soldiers of the darkchild in the guise of a hero coming eventually to destroy the world>even got jasper one of the two top knights who everyone adores in on it to make it even easier to convince people>somehow this is everyone else's faultCome on anon, you can't be serious
>>545676225Didnt the arena fighters themselves ask us to let Vince go? Besides, Mordegon had a 20 year psyop going on, how is it the fault of the ordinary soldiers when they were raised in that shit.
>>545676291Mordegon reduced taxes and for all extent and purposes was a pretty good king until outed.
>>545676225I was done with Vince once I found out he took a shoot shit on Whambelina’s head during a devil’s three way dance.
>>545676946>be a good king and therefor make the populace and army willing to follow any potentially questionable decisions because otherwise anything he's done for them has been completely positivePretty smart really.
>The king wants you son. Be on your best behaviour.I am ready to fucking flip...>Or do you question the wisdom of your king?FUCK OFF YOU OLD TWIT!! You don't order me, I am the one who orders! You shouldn't even be king. We voted you out when you crashed Yggdrasil!
Glombolero or Wizard Robe for Peronel? Half MP cost sounds awesome but I'd be giving up a whole 20 Wis.
>>545652449>>545664349Better yet, I got bored of the grind, bruteforced my way around the bottom right of the map with copout and autosave, and ended up getting 3 gold golem kills, a second banishing bell, and a staff of divine wrath.
Which floor of tower of the moon do metal slimes show up?
Is there a way to farm tombola tickets?
>>545679885If you beat that tower you'll be able to get to slime island which has liquid metal slimes, don't waste your time with the basic ones.
Japanese dub Matilda how I love you so
THOU SHALT NOT ESCAPE*spams cop out*
fuck recommended order Im gonna play then1 2 3 remakes then 11 in that order and you cant stop me
Are they gonna put out a balance patch for I-II? At least so you're not so reliant on cop out and to help the early game?
>>545678441Wisdom spell scaling isn't that good, having more MP for big dick spells is way more valuable. That said, I'd argue fire/spell resistance is even more valuable than either by a pretty wide margin.
>>545682132o n i i - c h a n ! !
>>545672042Black Sanguini dindu nuffin free my nigga
>>545684307The fact that DQ1 gives you Cop Out from the very beginning is pretty clear evidence that it's going to be your expected tactic for much of the game.
How the fuck do you do that Twisted Sister and Mummy Dearest fight? My party is level 15. The princess nearly dies every turn. I have sleep resist on everyone, dazzle resist on the hero. Fur armour on the princes. No money left.
>>545687216snooze works on the mummy almost every time but I'd honestly recommend getting another level or three also you aren't that far from Kabuff and Magic barrier
Today I learned that Shades take their stats from other monstersThe seemingly random weakness/resistance numbers made me suspicious before but I just ran into one with 4x the HP of any other shade in the same encounter and needed to see what was up
>>545687742Shades do something stupid like randomly select a monster within a ~30 level range of the MC if memory serves me correctly.>>545685016If the scaling is the same as the August patch DQ3 HD, wisdom scaling is pretty competitive, its just that +20 Wisdom can't beat a doubled mp bar for obvious reasons. Additionally, if you need elemental resistance, there's the other equipment slots for that.
>>545684307>>545686041It's kind of difficult for Cop Out to not be OP in DQ1HD even if they did weaken enemies. Its too efficient from an action economy standpoint.
>>545687216I gave Cannock the Snooze Stick and had him use that and the Princess Snooze the mummy, giving up and restarting until it worked. Then I used the Oomph powder I had on Midenhall and had him Flying Knee the Imps, I think it lasted just long enough to kill them and then the sister went down easily with a couple more Snoozes. Even with all that I still only won because of Cop Out luck lmao.>>545687742You got me curious about whether that's always been the case or new to the remakes and I found the wiki I use (dragon-quest.org) now has gifs for the monsters in 8. Neat.
>expected the new princess to be an Alena>she's actually a goof-off mage hybrid
>>545688842I couldn’t figure out how to use her so now she’s my dedicated war drummer
>>545688443>Additionally, if you need elemental resistance, there's the other equipment slots for that.True, but even with diminishing returns of stacking resistances, reducing the retarded amount of damage some bosses do even the tiniest bit helps a LOT.>>545688608If it was up to me I'd slightly cut enemy physical damage in I across the board and make consecutive cop-outs less effective, or fail entirely. It'd encourage throwing it out once in a while, making it useful but not the optimal choice 100% of the time in most battles. I guess the problem with that would be communicating that mechanic to the player, though.
>>545689580She's a jack of all trades, not decent at anything at all, yeah. With a larger party, would have been a benchwarmer.
Vocation: bride
>>545682132From my very limited Japanese I get the impression her original dialogue and characterization is a lot cuter/genki then what we ended up with :(
>>545688842i just got her and fed her all my wisdom seedsi don't even know if she gets any good spells later
>>545689963She technically has the highest burst damage out of everyone via Persecutter (but that requires the ailment to stick). Otherwise, you're better off egging on Midenhall/Caradoc depending on who you decided to be your Wild Side physical dps.
>>545688842>>545689963I like using her as a buff and debuffer since she gets both Kabuff and Kasap plus shes got a great agility stat
>get a reheal scroll>that'd be good to use with her>useless bitch can't learn it
>>545690913Matilda learns it naturally at 30 I think
>>545690435Does Cannock with falcon blade of ruin + sword dance out DPS Midenhall’s cutting edge? Haven’t got the FBR yet but at lvl 50 CE is routinely doing 1000+ damage, 1700+ if egged on, 2000+ if it crits.
>>545691248Not sure, there's probably someone who number crunched it on reddit/gamefaqs.
Haven’t seen this posted yet https://hyperts.net/dq1and2/memo/
Hello /dqg/, it's your resident sprite autist. It's been a week, and I've updated the comparison. Feels like it's been longer than a week, honestly.BEWARE OF SPOILERS. I'm serious here.Even though the generated thumbnail should be indecipherable, I'm gonna mark it anyway.
>>545691904What’s your favourite sprite in the game, anon?
>>545692435I don't think I could pick just one, but I like the various weapon sprites a lot.
>>545687418Draconian makes it harder to hit enemies with status conditions, right? Maybe it's just me having a run of bad luck, but I feel like that's making things just plain cruel in fights like Mummy Deerest where putting it to sleep on turn 1 is your only real chance to win. And I did all of DQ1 on Draconian, which wasn't much better but at least failure was quick when it's just one hero.
>>545681919wait, where? how? I beat that tower and I'm stuck at the dirkandoor king fight.
>>545694107im not sure if theres an actual mechanical difference for status ailments in draconian but im also on that difficulty and was able to 100% snooze the mummy but almost never could land fizzle on the sister but fortunately she's far easier to manage. I wonder if maybe theres some impact on your level and the success rate for ailments?
>>545690435>get that ability>use it>only do 300 damagewtf
man service call is such a nice ability even if you've gotta fork over 300 gp just to heal
>>545694296actually, I just got multifists at 36, this seems like the best single target damage available to me right now so maybe I can do it.
>>545694456I tried three times in one fight to make that mummy sleep and he rebuffed it every time (though it may have worked once only for him to wake up instantly without anybody hitting him). I'm gonna grind up to 20 before trying again, see if that helps.
>>545694548read the fine print
>>545696092yeah I used it on a sleeping enemyDid not seem like a 6x, but I don't know how defense scales in this game, it might have just been the enemy.
is there anything more tilting than when the boss decides to randomly focus fire a party member right in the same turn that it dies so they get fucked out of the exp
>>545695695give it another shot as soon as Cannock learns Kabuff and you'll have a much smoother run and might even be able to make the snooze strat work a bit better either way good luck
The most convenient timing.
>>545691248I just got to postgame, but Midenhall's Cutting Edge double hits with the regular Falcon Blade, and I was hitting 1600x2 on MalrothAnd I don't think Sword Dance gets extra hits from weapons, at least it doesn't seem to from Mercury's rapier. It's hard to imagine anyone but Falcon Blade Matilda Persecutter reaching the single turn damage levels Midenhall gets simply by being an absolute Caveman
awoo
Brute Bat beaten with only the hero left at a sliver of HP. One of those fights that would be a cakewalk with Multiheal but with only Midheal you have to get really lucky not to end up in a death spiral. (or at least get lucky enough that the death spiral happens when he's on his last 100 HP)
>>545700809I had something similar when the hero died and then seconds later I opened a chest and it had Zin inside.
>>545703532I feel like Multiheal (Or Moreheal) really should have shown up at about that point. That said, Attack Attacker makes it far more reasonable if you wait for that.
>>545704779>Attack AttackerDamn, didn't even think to try that. Keeping Kabuff up is effective, but if you lose the wrong turn to sleep or fizzle it all goes sideways really fast. Took me an embarrassing number of tries.
>>545684067Could be worse.My play order was 1, 9, 8, 3, 4, 7, 11, 2, 6, 5, and I finished them in the order of 9, 8, 4, 3, 7, 11, 1, 2, 6 (did not finish 5)
>>545691904I've seen this format before for Megaman battle Network. Are you the same guy or is it just a coincidence?
I hope they play Serena's theme at some point in this Yggdrasil sequence. I'll clap and point and make a thumbnail face
>>545709652That's me. I've done a small handful of games, basically whatever caught my fancy at the time.
Midenhall had to revive both his cousins and the first resurrection was given a drastic price reduction. Is this only for when he's the last Scion standing since he's obviously got no healing magic to revive anybody?
Tonnura actually is just a male Serena, isn't he
You know the king of Dirkandor is a right solid fellow when you see he keeps a painting of good ol' Robbin' 'Ood on his wall, right next to his throne.
Did anyone beat dirkandoor on draconian?What level were you?How the fuck did you do it?
>>545717556See >>545458157
>>545717750Not that fight anon, the one where you fight the king himself.Kaclang doesn't even help because he instantly puts the buff back up after it expiresI even tried stealing all his mana, but he casts boulder toss and multifists and attack attacker without it
>>545717556>>545716542>that painting>dirkandoorYeah, that's definitely a pun on Kandor. Did the localization really manage to leave that in when they changed Kandor's name to Roobin' 'Ood? The meaning behind the king's name is entirely lost unless you've played in Japanese or a Dragon Warrior III localization.
>>545717556ok, I eventually did it.The fight feels like a crapshoot, because at any point he can muster into multifists (twice) and just kill three peopleDazzle will only last one roundHe can be slept, but good fucking luck with your ordering since it's still a crapshootPeronel gets kaboom at 37, which I just found out by winning, so maybe wild side->kaboom was the way. I had to finish him with mercurial thrust to not risk getting fragged at the last second.
>>545674956>mfw all the shitters coming out of the woodworks saying that the HD2D release made DQ2 good nowI'm convinced that, despite DQfags touting how consistent this series is, most of them really only played 5, 8 and 11 and then looked at Youtube videos for the rest of the games. The SFC/GBC versions were already perfectly fine remakes, and even then only the original Famicom version of the game had balancing issues in the endgame, which they tackled in the NES Dragon Warrior II release.
>>545718957wait a minute>It was possible to get into pazuzu's lair this whole timeI tried it multiple times, but I guess I didn't sit on the correct pixel to use the ability, so I thought I had to go fight the king firstFUCK
>>545694296Slime island is down the river from Moonbrooke past a shoal
who do i give my reheal scroll to
>>545718617Is it safe to say the king can trace his lineage to Kandar?
>>545720812true but consider >>545703287
>>545723323Kino...
[HELPFUL TIP]If you’re feeling strapped for cash in 2 head for the three islands west of Moonahan, gold golems and gold diggers are common spawns.Bag o’laughs are also fairly common if you’re looking to steel a war drum (absolutely necessary for draconian).
>>545720812I'm a little annoyed with myself going through DQ2 since it's been so long since I played an older version that I'm having a way harder time judging it. I stand by it being a solid game that just runs a little long for how simple it is.
>>545720812HD-2D remakes are the definitive versions, NES games were badly balanced and added grinding to pad the playtime.
>>545723417anon, oomph power becomes party-wide after one of the sigils, and you get too much of it trying the dirkandoor tombola.
Do you think you'd be able to survive in the Dragon Quest world? Do you think you'd have it in you to kill monsters?
Ok this is driving me insane, why does dq8 go into first person mode sometimes after I finish a battle? I'm mashing x to get through the text but L2 is the first person button so that shouldn't trigger it.
>>545731925I could maybe make it as a Monster Tamer, I'm kinda bitchmade so actually killing like a Bunicorn with a goddamn sword is beyond me, but if I could have my friend the Hammerhood paste it somehow that's fine So probably not
>>545718617DQ has never been above mocking the old Dragon Warrior localization, like using the old DW spell names as fake magic that Gadabouts may waste a turn "casting".
Does Lady Moonbrooke ever get her kingdom mark like the other Scions do? I had thought finding it was needed to keep going west towards the towers, but the Windbraker ended up being her proof of passage and now I'm kind of wondering about it.
>>545731925It'd just be constant puff puffs. I'd let the monsters live.
>>545745858Late in the game
If they remake 4-6 do you think they will go chronological order again and do 6 first?
>>545752794Who knows, but I doubt it. The connection there is way more tenuous.
>>545720812I say DQ1 and 2 are finally good now, but to be fair I have only ever played the NES versions before.
>Matilda uses "Mega Puff-Puff Assault"
>>545723054Doesn't matter, Reheal isn't that good. I gave it to Cannock because he's fast, but I'm thinking Moonbrooke might be a better choice because during the short period where Reheal is mildly effective, you're better using your breather turns upping Kabuff.
How many people here played DQ2 NES?
>>545765282Me, once upon a time
Saw this on gamefaqsAssassin's Stab (ME) = Caradoc over Matilda since he's the only one without Critical Claim in post-game, otherwise Gawain/Matilda get Hawkeye Claw, Gawain/Caradoc get Metal Slash, and Caradoc/Matilda can equip the Assassin's Dagger for (Liquid) Metal Slime grinding. Caradoc's SUS Lightning Slash is also Lightning Thrust like in DQ1 for a critical skill, while Gawain has Hatchet Man & Headsman's Axe.[ ! ] Undead Undoer (ME) = Gawain over Caradoc due to SUS.[ ! ] Demon Demeaner (ME) = Gawain over Caradoc due to SUS.Metal Slash = Caradoc over Gawain due to SUS, his Agility with Meteorite Bracer, and presumably Mercury Rapier compatibility.Lightning Scroll = It's a mediocre fixed Zap ability, different SUS for Peronel and Matilda.Wind Sickles (ME) = I dunno. Matilda gets Thin Air if you want to complement that, Caradoc doesn't need it that early or ever.Puff-Puff = Gawain, since he bears hugs his enemy for boosted damage at 0 MP while Peronel seduces enemies (ailment). You get the 2nd in post-game.Power Puff-Puff = No idea, it's post-game exclusive. You can farm for the 2nd copy.Focus Pocus = Gawain over Caradoc due to SUS.[ ! ] Wild Side (ME) = Controversial between Gawain (better damage damage, Forbearance tank) and Caradoc (Divide SUS, Omnihealer, boomerang/Multislice/Kazap/Gigaslash autobattler). (1/2)
>>545765772(2/2) Spooky Aura = Different SUS for Peronel (Spooky Aura > Weakening Wave (14 MP) = Casts a lunar light on all enemies which lowers their attack.) & Matilda. I gave it to Matilda and regret it, since she got stuck on Egg On duty. The 2nd copy's in post-game.Service Call (ME) = Matilda since she can equip Glombolero (15 MP > 8?) when Gawain can't.Padfoot (ME) = Caradoc since he can equip Glombolero (2 MP > 1) and Gawain can't, Peronel already has Holy Protection.Crack, Crackle (ME), Kacrack, Kacrackle (ME) = Peronel over Caradoc since she needs it.[ ! ] Reheal (ME) = Peronel over Caradoc due to SUS.Kaclang (ME) = Caradoc over Peronel due to higher Agility to MP stall.Bazoom = Matilda over Peronel due to SUS. 2nd copy's in post-game. For scroll distribution
>>545765890doesn't kaclang literally bypass agility and always go first? It even beats out mercurial thrust.
>>545766270No idea but that's just what the guy posted.
>>545765282On an emulator. Didn’t finish it though.
Seed hunting spots in DQ2? I’ve got 2 pirate king pendants now so I’m getting drops every 4 or 5 battles now. Also, do bunny tails increase drop rates like in 11?
>>545752794I'd actually probably expect 5 first lol
Once I'm done with 11 which game would you recommend? I'm kinda tied between 6 and 8. 8 I always regretted not playing on Ps2, had a copy but my PlayStation died before the game did. I have the 3ds release with the hot girl and the old fuckboi.Or there's 6 which I'm lowkey eager to play since I love the characters in that game and have faith in it being the underdog title of the trilogy. Which of the two would you suggest?
>>545752794If they’re going to make an effort to add more story and story connections we might get 6 first. I’m most excited for 6 because I feel it’s the game in the Zenithian trilogy with the most unrealised potential. DQ2 was such a dull slog til HD.Horii, please let me reunite with tomboy dragon wife who takes horrific shits during the middle of a fight.
>>5457694248 looks and plays very similarly to 11, so if you want something a little different play 6. If not then play 8. If I were in your position I’d play 6.
>>545769879what the FUCK did you mean by that?
>>545765772I would say absolutely Caradoc for Wild Side, with better Falcon Blade, a Turn 1 Wild Side, Turn 2 Divide turn 3 Dragon exploder Produces 6 Casts or 12 hits of Xenlong assbeating for wish collectionBut generally I agree with the list except that Matilda is the best Spooky Aura user because she can't double/quadra cast the way Peronel can and doesn't get Channel Anger until post game at which point who cares.
>Erdrick disappears off the face of the planet>Ramia later shows up in DQ8's world>Red has dark spiky hair and can use Erdrick's swordHmmm
>>545770432From Ashlynn’s unique lucky dip action >Ashlynn begins doing something...just...disgusting! Something HORRIBLY disgusting! Everyone pretends to ignore her!
>>545752794I think they're just going to stick with numerical order for Zenithia.
I want them to remake DQ9 so I dont have to play Kevin's patch whenever I want to replay.
>>545771882Dragovians are the descendants of Midenhall and Dragonlord’s great-grandson/reincarnation. The postgame secret Horii asked streamers not to spoil is a sprite of Midenhall princess carrying Dragonlord around Alefgard like his ancestor did Gwaelin.
>>545771882Erdrick just built a cabin in the woods or something and obviously had sex with somebody in Alefgard.
>>545770328I've liked the gameplay in 11 but am loathing a lot of the story beats lol
>>545778237I was so fucking confused the first time I played 8. You just start in the middle of the plot.It's kino, but it got me.
I'm running out of room on my 'come back with the magic/ultimate key' paper
>>545765282I did. Ended up just abusing savestates to finish it up because I really wasn't up for another grind session after I had just done one to make it through the cave to rhone.Plus getting hit with sacrifice was getting unbelievably annoying, there's no way in hell I was putting up with a boss that could do it to me as well, potentially multiple times cause iirc you have to redo the whole boss gauntlet again if you were to die to Hargon or Malroth.
intercourse with Princess Moonbrooke?
>>545781239bro, steam notes?
Dog Jade
>>545778878I'm not really sold on the characters in 8. Angelo seems cool and I like the mc but I'd be much happier to spend time with my horse gf than my actual party members.
>>545788245based, me tooI really like yangus, but he's more of a jester than a character.
>>545783693She absolutely got railed by a poodle during her doggo time
god i fucking hate Zing
>>545765282I didn't. I played the Famicom version.
>>545788963I will say that I haven't actually played the game myself yet. My knowledge comes from their appearances in other games, YouTube clips, and from other people discussing them. But I'd genuinely be kinda shocked if I did a 180 after playing
For Me?Its 9 Minstrel
Is there ever a point where I can just buy tombola tickets?
>>545792432Mersea
>>545793420how far do I need to progress? I'm at rendarak rn.
>>545793483I think it might be post game
I spammed dig in the tower of rain and found a mad cap, and this item absolutely carried me through half the game.Any other really based digs?>>545794605neat, thanks anon.
>>545792265Love 9 but I really wish Egg On wasn't as core of an ability as it was. You're stuck as a support from the very start
>>545771882>>Red has dark spiky hair and can use Erdrick's swordshe could use it due to the defunct DLC from the 3DS version. I never even got it due to the fact SE dropped DLC support for VIII years before.
>>545771882>>545777363Erdrick disappeared because you turned the game console off.
>Matilda learns Wizardly WaftDoes Maribel have competition?
>>545798705my matilda threw a rock at her brother's head and killed him
>>545777363Considering the ungabunga-ness of his descendants and the Moonbrooke family’s lavender hair I think it’s pretty safe to assume Warrior-chan won the Erdrick bowl. Sagefags in SHAMBLES.
>>545798869She's so silly teehee
That must be one comfy coffin.
Is there any way to up sickle steal’s chances of success? According to the monster guide I’ve killed 202 liquid metal slimes, meaning I’ve probably made about 300 steal attempts, and still no falcon blade.
Hi /dqg/, im new here. i just finished dragon quest builders 2 in 55 hours. its an amazing game. its very slow, and its more of an rpg than i thought. one of my favourite things about it is: the simplicity of its story and the dialogue (it adds a lot of charm to the characters).but now I want more. i've read the guide, but now that DQ 1 and 2 hd remake is out... should I start with them? and then move to DQ3 remake? and after that?i know some of the games require some grinding, and im not opposed to that, but i prefer story driven rpgs. i also know DQVIII is awesome and a classic, but i've already watched a streamer play itIf none of the older games are worth it, I will just play DQXI S. Oh, and also, is DQ builders 1 good? Or is it not as narrative driven as 2? and what about DQ Treasures? thanks a lot.
>>545805821>>545789341
>>545806492The HD2D remakes and XI are all fine starting points, go for whichever seems more appealing to (You). The grinding in this series is largely a meme, most games have you leveled roughly where you need to be if you go and explore instead of following a guide and beelining for quest points (1 NES is the exception, that game is literally just grinding). Builders 1 is great, Treasures is abhorrent dogshit.
>>545806492all the DQ games i know of are basically as narrative driven as builders 2 is so i don't think you can go wrong with any of them if you liked that one in that sense.That said it's not like those games you mentioned "require" grinding, it's just that the baseline balance is "if you can't beat it then just grind a few levels and it'll become piss easy", as in there's usually a way to do it but if you can't find it then better stats will solve italso builders 1 is probably even more narrative driven cause for plot reasons everytime you start a new chapter in a new land you lose literally everything, equipment and resources and stuff. It's also a bit clunkier than builders 2 (duh) but it also got like 4 rereleases that gradually added quality of life stuff so i think nowadays the very latest version you can buy is pretty good. Very latest version which iirc is only on steam, i don't think the console versions were ever updated
What did Sylvando do to these men...? I swear they weren't gay beforehand
>>545807414>>545807585thanks, i think i'll play 1, 2 and 3 remakes first, then. i'll play 11S and Builders 1 eventually. as for Treasures, is it really that bad? sounded like dumb-minded fun, which i dont think its a bad thing. thanks again
>>545807878Treasures is mostly disliked for being the unofficial sequel to monsters but with nothing that people enjoyed from monsters. It's not as bad as people make it out to be, it's a fun game in its own right. Definitely play it AFTER 11 though
>>545807878It very much is dumb-minded fun, and it certainly is charming, but the moment-to-moment gameplay just sucks, among its various other flaws. I found the most enjoyment from the game being collecting various items from throughout the series and clapping when I recognized them, so you might enjoy it more when you've got a couple more mainline games under your belt. It's also one of the only games that I'd say absolutely has to be played with JP (Or no) voices.
Should I point skill points into multiple weapons for jessica? The mp boost and extra spells from staves seem way better than anything else.
>>545808143>>545808564oh i mean im no expert, but i thought treasures is completely different from DQMonsters. Is DQ Monsters the Dark Prince considered bad for Monsters fans? anyway if its that bad/boring then im not playing it
>>545808952Optimally speaking, DQ8 is going to have you investing all over the place. Also, depending on what version of DQ8 you're playing, Jessica's build changes up a bit due to balance adjustments on Twin Dragon Lash.
>>545808952I always go all-in on whips and never have too much trouble. Staves are probably better, but if you go that way it's safer to just stick with them.>>545810458Treasures started development and was first announced as a DQM game, ran into trouble even before covid, disappeared for years, then was re-announced as Treasures and the new DQM was redeveloped from scratch as a totally separate game.DQM3 (Dark Prince) isn't that bad if you're into Monsters autism but you'd be better off trying one of the earlier games. The 3DS versions of 1 and 2 are worth a shot.
I really wish i didnt teach service call to Midenhall don't repeat my mistake
>>545808952The most generic Jessica build is like 23 Whips/100 Staves/100 Sex Appeal.
Nera and Debora should learn service call
>>545810458I liked Dark Prince but much like Treasures it suffers from being supremely low budget. It also ties into DQ4's story in an interesting way to a point I'd suggest waiting until after you play that. I also suggest starting with Monsters 1&2 for this subseries like the other guy said, though I've only played the GBC originals (They're very good).
>>545805821skill issue
I don't like that the HD-2D remakes don't have subtitles. Even if they absolutely can't be on the box because "HD-2D Remake" is just too important they should show up somewhere in the actual game
>>545817758Fun fact: The Japanese versions keep the subtitles.
>>545813850I also really liked the Dark Price despite it's budget, the Monster building is fun and that's what really matters
>>545804617>Considering the ungabunga-ness of his descendants and the Moonbrooke family’s lavender hairOrtega is unga bunga and his mom has purple hair
>>545694456Yeah, I'm trying the fight again and the mummy refuses to sleep most times. Basically, if you don't zonk him on turn 1, you're fucked. And it turns out he'll also sometimes use Hawkeye Claw to murder someone right out the gate.
>>545821613No, I mean Mercurial Thrust. Whatever they call it, he sometimes goes first no matter what.
Who hugs you in the end of the postgame? It can't be Erdricks mom cause ages have passed and it can't be a ghost cause she doesn't look like a ghost.... I'm confused? Has some random woman been waiting there to hug people that walk through the door like a theme park attraction or is she supposed to be another descendant..... this is bothering me.
>>545822585Everyone in Aliahan is the same as they were in DQ3 there's been like 8 Patty's.
>>545822585Wow thanks asshole
>>545687216I had to grind to 18 first. You do get some more useful abilities.I think you should also have undead undoer here.
Kabuff keeps stacking over and over in DQ2 remake there's almost no limit, if a boss is hitting hard just cast it every turn and they won't do any good damage.
>>545822585Hyperbolic time chamber, except it's a whole world?
>>545822919So descendent,.....Erdricks mom got horny after her husband and child went missing, cue a milf doujinshi and popped out another kid.>>545823140This is 4chan, the game's been out for over a week now and I see nothing in the OP that says please spoiler.
Wow, has it really been a week since some jerk without any common courtesy openly posted spoilers? All things considered, that's a pretty good record.
>>545824591Other Generals wouldn't have lasted nearly as long.
>>545823270Gah, still not working. The damn mummy keeps staying awake and killing Pr. Cannock before he can build up Kabuff.
>>545817758In DQ3 it says "and thus the seeds of salvation were sown" at the end
Now is not the time for jesting! Promise me, curse thee!
>>545823918Retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt3hkS0LelE
>>545830496GOTY? GOTY
>>545830496got hard as soon as gwaelin talked
>>545830596It would be for me if not for Kirby Air Riders
i'm stuck at the golden skelegons when the faerie village gets attacked. Like genuinely i have no options, they have broken physical attacks, freezing attacks and freeze breath attacks. How do you cover for all this dog shit? My old grinding spot also turned into a spot with only golden skelegons, feels like my game fucking bricked. I genuinely would rather play the NES version at this point.
This fuckin' guy.
>>545834842are you playing on draconian? the game has severe balance issues, but just be honest. Draconian is unplayable garbage and relies on total luck and exploitation, they didn't play test this shit. Just play on normal.
>>545835245filtered
>>545834842When in doubt just spam Cop Out its a strategy I used for almost every boss in the second half of the game and throw on some ice resist gear there's antifreeze earrings somewhere in a sparkly spot iirc
>>545834842Dodgy Dodge and buff with the Faerie Foil (you don't have to equip it to use it as an item). You should be able to cover the icy breath with equipment.>>545835520It should be the sparkly spot east of where you get the Mark of Erdrick, on the other side of the swamp.
>>545834904me when i meet cannock's sister
>>545835589I don't have enough equipment to make myself fully ice resistant, it's all just fire related shit
If I might say so, thy willingness to involve thyself in others' troubles bordereth on the perverse.
>>545834842You can throw a caugulent at them and they (may) get confused and kill eachother.
I kind of wish DQ2 copypasted the DQ3 monster arena with some new monsters. I don't care about the actual arena so much but it was nice to have something else to collect out in the world. Scrolls are a great addition but both would've been cool.
>>545838108#metoo anon.
https://youtu.be/8BJHX_1k0F0
>>545842214This was so perfectly synced up with stepping out on the boat deck
I finally finished DQXI. It was mostly good, but the third arc sucked hard: rehashed plot points, rehashed dungeons, rehashed bosses; it felt mostly pointless and lacking any of the excitement of the 2nd arc. The only good parts are the last (not the super hard one, just the normal final one) Harma Wheel trial because it had some fun gimmicks, the ending, and getting Veronica back; otherwise it just sours a game that could've been truly great. When it started it almost felt like it was going somewhere, but then it turns into doing a bunch of fetch-quests until you decide to fight the final boss. Erik and Jade have absolutely nothing to do, they're standing there barely having the most generic possible dialogue in group scenes, and Sylvando and Rab just get worse versions of their 2nd arc character arcs; the only characters that actually get anything interesting to do are Veronica and Serena (and Serena is still a downgrade from arc 2 Serena), and Hendrick, and with Hendrick it just felt like wanking. Why did they give him so much? He got the knight training with Sylvando, he got the subplot with Homeros' ghost, and he even got some unique scenes with the past warrior guy in the trials. And I refuse to believe vanilla actually forced the future partner wife/no-homo-bff scene to be with Gemma only, her entire personality is "childhood friend", who even cared enough?
Abysmerelda is fucking bullshit
Is there any real way of farming liquid metal slimes in dq2re without ripping your hair out? I'm whistling on the slime island and if im lucky enough for one to even show up they instantly flee turn one lol
>>545847676The metal slime sword doesn't seem to help very much either if I even get the chance to attack one and assassin's stab never procs for me
>spend 4 hours farming bag o’ass for single war drum >collect 3 war drums from hardy hands on my first to the bonus dungeon Wew.
gwaelin for queen of /v/
>>545851989who is the most popular dq girl in the west? jessica? japan is aeana country apparently.
>>545854545It certainly used to be Jessica. I'd say proportionally to Japan the biggest difference is Jess.Aeana? Alena? Really?
>>545864423Alena won a recent poll, besides Bianca I don't know who else could beat her.
>>545854545 >japan is alena countryBased. For once japs have good taste.
>>545865302Alena especially I feel like is a hard one to judge. She's certainly liked in the west but she's probably the girl most heavily impacted by the translation. She comes across well in 4 ds but god knows what the fuck all changed in the translation from the original. She could be an entirely different character and I'd totally believe it.
>loved dqviii>loved the first half of dqxii but dropped it in act 3, and even before then it wasnt as good as viii>loved vii until the endless shard hunt started to bore me>loved I>hated II>hate love III because job system fun but I prefer more linear game>hate love V because the story is cool but the pacing feels kinda shit and some parts of the game are boring>couldnt get into IX because it felt like it was designed to be a multiplayer game and didnt feel great to play solo but I need to give it another chancedo yall think I would enjoy IV or VI more? the last ones I havent tried.
>>545845783>And I refuse to believe vanilla actually forced the future partner wife/no-homo-bff scene to be with Gemma onlyGemma is actually the only one who becomes your wife, getting a real wedding photo and everything, the rest is just lifelong friends basically.>who even cared enough?Me. Gemma is a cutie, and even if I had other choices I still would've chosen her since she makes the most sense to choose.
>>545868372Agreed, Gemma is very cute and is 100% (for you) It's just a shame she didn't join the group for longer. We could easily have made a space
Who has the best ending out of the DX11 cast? I'm tempted to push for Veronica but I heard she doesn't get a romance. What is Jade and Serena's like?
>Dodgy Dance>Cop Out>Cop Out>Cop Out>repeat
I'm doing a "Learn all Spells/Abilities" run in DQ3 HD, would this be a good class change guide:>Thief -> Mechant - Warrior>Monster Wrangler -> Mage -> MA>Priest -> Gadabout -> Sage
Oh wow... I actually died in 11... that's embarrassing. It was during the Booga boss fight. I might have gone a little too hard on Jade beforehand and used up all my mp. I also just learned that Gold Rush will hit your own party members when charmed so Sylvando kinda killed everyone. This would be a lot easier if I could have gotten literally any other characters by this point. I forgot how to get to Arbonia so the sisters are out and I don't have a clue where Erik could be.
>>545868975None of them get a real romance besides Gemma, if that's what you're looking for.
>>545879794you can't get anyone else before beating Booga they specifically make you fight Jinxed Jade with an all Male Cast, so when she uses Puff-puff and other Charm shit it will usually work
>>545879756Thief > Merchant > WarriorWrangler > Gadabout > SagePriest > Mage > Martial Artistyou really don't want to be carrying a gadabout around before you have the ability to just grind out their shit as soon as possible in the post game especially on draconian. so putting them after wrangler is fine, because they're not going to class change before what's functionally postgame anyway.
>>545879953Well that's shit... I'd have thought you'd at least be able to get the sisters in Arborea. I'm not a big fan of this party. I literally never included Rab once before this and I still kinda hate Hendrik for calling me a nigger all game
>>545868034You would probably like IV.
>>545880348I mean I was just probably going to go Priest-> Gadabout until 20 (because Sobering Slap is actually pretty great to get on a Support) -> Sage, and then in the end game go back to Gadabout for Channel Anger.
>>545880560The only worthwhile stopping points are Egg On (31) and Channel Anger (45).If you already maxed out Priest on that character, then just go Mage. You get every spell at once (the entire point of having a Sage) and he/she's going to level up faster and generally use similar gear as the Sage during the late game. This isn't the older versions where Sage completely dumpsters on Mage.
Souped Up Conditions...
>>545879756You can cut out the priest and simply go gadabout -> sage
>>545887491If you are playing on Draconian, starting level 1 with a Gadabout and no Priest would be literal hell.
>>545891818Hero + Wrangler can handle all the healing up until around Dying Fire comfortably but Boss Troll/Baramos will make you really want a proper healer. Gadabout would throw a wrench into things because their later antics are really fucking annoying.
>>545891818You don't really need a Priest on Draconian. I went through most of the game fine with a Thief, Monster Wrangler, and Mage. I did have a Wit Hero, though, who did an excellent job with healing duty (and proceeded to nuke the endgame with Kazap).
HD Broccoli
>>545900940Fully modeled green bush
Which way, scion of Erdrick?Do I get anything special by keeping her?
>>545908802Some free Reheal and Focus Pocus spells casts on random occasions, plus being able to use Souped-Up Kasizz and Gigaslash.
>>545908802She has dialogue in most cutscenes going forward, and much later she gets the ability to pray and boost your stats/heal you.
>>545900970there was a 3d one!? why hasn't this been re-released?
>>545909075>>545909147And do I miss anything not delivering her?
Alright, I caved and went down to Dragon for Mummy Deerest, and I'm pretty positive that status ailments fail more often on Draconic since Sleep worked on Mummy every other time at worst in Dragon.In any case, my streak is over. Should I stick with Dragon from here on out? It's only going to get harder going forward.
>>545909338You're forced to return her if you go back to Tantegel castle, so you can't get the ultimate key goodies there without dropping her off. The big one is a Snoop scroll.You're also forced to return her if you didn't get the Sunstone with the magic key before you rescued her.
>>545909338Just some treasures in the castle, but they're not really needed if you're using a guide in place of the Snoop spell, which is one of the treasure. You can get them after killing the Dragonlord but before talking to the King to end the story.That said, if you didn't get the Sunstone, you'll have to return her to get it and you'll have to go without the extra bonuses she gives you.
After struggling with the bat for a while and finally getting Matilda, it's nice to cruise through some of these way easier bosses. I didn't even have to back out and rest in the Shrine of Rain.I really like the variety of boss monsters from across the series. That was a cool part of nu-3 but it's way more prominent here.
>>545909545>>545909740I didn't know where to go for a while and I kinda already got the sunstone. I guess she is staying. Thanks, lads. Also, I obviously went to a Rimuldar's Inn at frame 01 with her. so I better avoid the King for the time being
>>545909349DQ2 gets easier when you get the full 4 person party and get stuff like multiheal.
>>545911398Like how easy? Because Mummy aside, it sounds like Draconian is almost needed to get a decent challenge with all the new tools you're given. I cleared all of DQ1 on Draconian and even with Cop Out cheese, it was still a very uphill climb that often came down to hoping for that one missed attack, and yet I wouldn't have traded that experience for anything.
I'd complain about how annoying the mapless section of the passage to rendarak but the xp you get while doing it is so good
>>545912761I'm not quite done yet, and there are a couple rough roadblocks, but everything after Mummy Deerest generally feels a lot more balanced. That's partially because you can fuck off somewhere else and do a lot more if you hit a wall, though. I will not judge you for skipping that particular fight in Draconian as long as you remain strong for the rest of the game.t. hasn't dropped Draconian yet
>>545913904Alright, I'll keep Draconian going for now. Thanks for the feedback on this.
>>545909349Out of curiosity were you using the spell version or the snooze stick? When I beat that fight on Drac I was using the spell variant and didn't miss at all, got me wondering if potentially the item is worse?
Is this the first game to have basic orcs without spears? Odd choice.
why do they call her drippy faerie
>>545914813Nope.>>545914537Not him, but I've been using both equally and hadn't noticed a difference. The luck stat probably matters, though.
>>545914537Tried both, neither seemed to have any better effect over the other.
>>545915172For me, it's fragrant faerie.
What’s the qrd on true ending post credits scene spoilers ofc
>Give up beating the Sorcerer at the bottom of Craggy Cave because I'm low on HP and MP>Somehow his attacks just keep missing and I clutch out in a winDraconian is a weird experience.
>>545916123Midenhall casts a spell.
So why is Alena so popular with the yellow skins and not the token Yamato Nadesico Nera?
>>545915190Woah, nice attention to detail.
>not exactly having trouble with the green dragon, but continuously losing the battle of attrition>wait, I have a dragon shield in my bag>reload save, equip dragon shield>it was enough to boost my breath resistance to become immune>easy winfuck me I need to pay more attention to my equipment
>DQ1 on Draconian>getting my ass kicked every time there’s multiple monster groups >which is all the fucking time >notice how like every NPC is saying stuff like “you are going alone? Is that really wise?” and “y‘know, most people adventure with at least 3 other friends…”So they knew this shit was an imbalanced fuck fest, released it like this anyways and put in jokes about it. Awesome.
>>545915172she got that drip
>>545920630Just wait until you get around Cantlin and every crit on you becomes and overkill that does more damage than you have max HP.This truly is the Dodgy Copout Quest
I don't know why I expected Erik's sister to have any more convincing of an accent as he does... I swear their accent changes in every scene. She's pretty hot tho despite being a damn female kusogaki built for correction. She was totally a sex toy for the vikings right?
>>545920630>one of the fairies straight up asks if you even have any friends
>>545922387Having Brits doing bad fake American accents instead of Americans doing bad fake British accents is a key part of the appeal of English dubbed DQ
>>545922630Remember when DQ11 first came out, and every other post was basically “what in the fuck is going on with Erik’s accent”Good times, good times.
More than anyone else I want to see Milly and Debora in something dubbed in English to hear how bad Milly's American accent is and whether Debora gets to be horrible fake Italian
>>545923424Zenithian trilogy remasters...Trust the plan.
Did she finger herself and turn to gold wtf? XD>>545922630I wouldn't even place it as American in most scenes. I thought Erik just had a bad voice actor but his sister does the same strange shit.This also kinda kills a lot of the excitement for Treasures when I know they'll end up miserable viking slaves by the end.
>>545923551DQIV is literally one of the most remastered games ever made already
>>545909148they hate us
She's a fucking animal murderer!? Harming and cruelty to animals is not okay, it's the sign of a full on psycho. Also this scene is literally a fetish lol XD I spend way too much time on /d/ for this shit
DQV PS2 is best version
>>545923964Yeah but it's hardly got big jumps. You have a shitty nes version, a playable snes version, the ds version without partychat, the mobile one which is the exact same with party chat. And that's it. No 3d versions, nothing sprucing the game up. Just three 2d editions
>>545909148Look at the enemy models and then think about it.
>>545926684There's no SNES version, but there is a 3D version like VII on PS1.
>>545923692>This also kinda kills a lot of the excitement for Treasures when I know they'll end up miserable viking slaves by the end.A lot of things about Erik and Mia, from the dub accents to being in a happy childhood prequel that takes place before their lives were ruined, is a reference to Terry and Milly from DQ6 (who actually got it even worse).>>545926684>DQ4 SNES???The whole postgame with playable Psaro, party chat and being able to control the whole party in the final chapter were all done in the PS1 version, which are pretty major changes. Unless your only criterion for a "big jump" is 3D models for the characters that absolutely was one.
>>545927183The best characters in XI are based on one's from 6 lol
>Terry gets a dinosaur girlfriend>Mia becomes the dinosaur girlfriendPottery
Predictions for how Zenithian Trilogy remakes will expand the games.Not saying I want these to happen, just what I am expecting based on everything that's being done for 1-3 and 7.>DQIV-Party chat dropped for more unique scenarios across the game-Bigger focus on Psaro in the main establishing chapters-(Big guess) Tactics for characters that aren't Solo will be automatically set without player input. You can change them, but that's just how it'll be.>DQV-Unique scenarios for Nera and Deborah-Expanded childhood section that also gives more moments to child Nera and Deborah-Marriage choice changes several scenes (not the story overall though)-(Big guess) Elements from the DQV manga about the kids inserted (probable) OR the timeskip is now playable (doubtful)-(Bigger Guess) Horii forces SE to translate the DQV manga I'm talking about >DQVIHaven't played lolBut considering how DQ2 was among the least liked DQs and now a lot of people are proclaiming it a favourite, I imagine DQ6 will get a lot of reworks to fix its issues, especially since they're still talking about streamlining 7 after all these years.My predicted release schedule for the remakes btw>Dragon Quest 7 (obviously)>Dragon Quest 8 Remastered (not a remake/reimagining, they seem pretty satisfied with 8 overall)I think DQ4-6 won't be in chronological order. They could be, but Horii seemed insistent on DQ1-3 because of several factors (DQ11's popularity outside Japan, and the great emphasis on overarching narrative in the trilogy now (plus I imagine he was behind Emblem of Roto getting an English TL, which is pure DQ1-3 narrative shit). DQ9 I also think will either come before 4-6 or at the end. It's a weird one.As for spin-offs, I don't see those getting remade or remastered anytime soon, and Horii seems more interested in the main titles.
>>545928832>Party chat dropped for more unique scenarios across the gameThat sounds awful, and like a total waste since all the dialogue is already written. V especially would massively suffer from losing party chat, even if tons of cutscenes were added to compensate. The rest seems reasonable.I didn't think HD-2D versions of 4-6 were that likely, but the number of monsters from later games that are showing up as bosses in 2 like monsters from 1&2 did in 3 but on a much larger scale is making me wonder.
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>>545928832I hope they don't remake them, 1+2 was definately needed, 3 still holds up to this day and really only needed a port or some glorified emulation.If any game needs a remake right now its 9, they can just port over 4-6 (I personally dislike 4 and 6, the encounter rate is ridiculous and 6 is still to this day the only one I haven't beaten because its boring and confusing to figure out where to go, 5 was enjoyable partially due to playing the ps2 version instead of the DS version)
>>545926454Fact.
Almost died again... Gyldyga this time. Just quite a lot of damage and I couldn't quite get my Sap combos going. had to gamble on a 50% zing and Sylvando gold rush.Side note, how old are the siblings...? I thought Mia turning to gold was a recent thing but there was apparently five years of Erik fucking around before the game started?
>>545930980It's less "needed" and more what Horii wants to do.I see 4-6 getting another remake simply because he wants them to be in HD. DQ8 and 9 are the curious ones there. DQ9 probably needs a few reworks because it was intended for local MP and would be transitioning to an online voice-chat permitting MP (plus being a DS game for however much that matters), but DQ8 could just be remastered normally with new content inserted, like how it was on 3DS.
What's with the fucking encounter rate underwater? You can't move for more than 2 seconds without getting into a fight, i fucking turned on the thing that shows where to go because finding it on my own would take until holy protection works.
>>545930980>how old are the siblings...?Looking this up to answer you led me to finding out about a Japanese character book which gave official ages and heights>Luminary is 16>Erik is 19>Veronica "Heh heh, that’s a SECRET!>Serena "Tee hee, that’s a secret!">Sylvando "It’s a secret ">Jade "That’s a prized secret of Heliodor.">Rab is 70>Hendrik is 36
>>545932871Sylvando's quote didn't display right once posted, its supposed to have a music note at the end.
I'm starting to feel a little bit burnt out of XI.... Act 2 is dragging pretty badly. The vignettes already annoyed me but the only actual storyline I've liked in this act was Erik's. Spending another twenty hours retravelling the world to get my party back is something that should have been open ended and way shorter than it has been.
>>545933565Act 3 is the open-ended part. Based on your posts I'm sure you'll completely hate where the story goes but it's a lot more fun to play.
>>545933889I've given up on expectations for the story lol. I know there's time travel shit so the past 25 hours becomes filler but whatever, at least the bosses are fun
>>545932871I mean, Jade was about 5-6 in the intro so she would be like 21/22 right? Also Sylvando is about the same age as Hendrik as well. And I’m guessing the twins are about 18-19, the same seem similar in age to Erik.
Serena... they could have given her to us far sooner than this if they were just gonna give her an anticlimactic reintroduction anyway. She's been faffing around the whole time. If they wanted to push her as the alternative love interest to Gemma I'd have been happier to hang with her than the two old foggy and the fag
>>545900970imagine had IV and VI got remade in 3D
>>545935881They did
>>545935962I know The Dark Prince is IV in 3D, but Psaro's perspective. VI I don't even know about besides the DS remake.
V PS2 is just ugly
>>545936136The PS1/DS games are just as much 3D games as V on PS2 or VII on 3DS.
>>545933565You're in for some shit, Act 3 has some fucking awful story and almost right off the bat expects you to level up over 25 times in order to progress the story
>>545936486not only that, but having to rebattle bosses you've already done in act II like fighting Ireburn's father before sending him to the beyond.
>>545936136There's a PS1 version.
I have not finished Treasures nor the Dark Prince, neither DQXI even though i am missing some costumes and weapons apparently.
>>545936486It’s fun tho
>>545936486I'm surprised the game hasn't tried to push me to level grind. I've come across I think three different metal slime variants but the game has been so piss easy and there isn't a job system to grind so they're pretty pointless.Also this plot development would have been way more impactful if I'd actually had Serena for more than five minutes. Maybe let me see her character development first hand and actually see how she acts when not glued to Veronica. She'd have loved Sylvando and his merry men.Also there's quite a lot of backstory the gang must have to be catching up on offscreen lol
>>545937461I much prefer 8 and 9, 11 definitely has the best story (up until act3) but the limit break system is a downgrade from the tension system, not only that but I felt like the map design of 11 is TERRIBLE, the dungeons are so wide and monsters out on the field don't really chase you, it really felt like I had to force myself into enemies and start battles otherwise I would end up under levelled.>>545937673You're going to be farming for at least 3-4 hours while setting up double EXP limit breaks against liquid metal slimes and its fucking awful to get those 25 levels
It feels so weird to be playing a new release DQ game without king slimes.
Where can I start looking for Metal Slimes in DQ2 HD? I know there's the island later, but right now, I could use a few boosts.
>>545941814>have half the world. >there's a world outside Alefgard>even better when there's a complete different world where Erdrick comes from. what the hell was Hagron doing at the time of I.
>>545943090I would assume using his minions like the Mirage to keep the Dragonlord marching along with his own plans.
>>545939982You got the boat? The best leveling is the Island just south of the Shrine to the far south of Middenhall, If those enemies beat your ass too hard you can try to scam some metal slimes on the island Dirkandoor is onAssassin's Stab is goated btw
>>545941814How does the Dragonlord go from being such a Chad in the manga to a dweeby mage dude?
>get the magic key>instantly forget where all the locked chests were
What if they re-remake DQ6 and still don't explain what happened with Milly's body
>>545947232Wasnt she a former prostitute/slave or whatever then she got her spirit split while trying to escape?
>>545947518enslaved dancing girl
>walking the princess home>a slime and she-slime appeared!>aww they're doing the same thing we're doing
I'm level 31 and determined to take down the knight aberrant before I rescue that cantlin priest.The strat is to keep my MP topped off at all times with Focus Pocus, have defence and evasion buffed at all times, and using the staff of divine wrath for 40-70 damage every turn I don't have to perform maintenance, then go into cop out nonstop once he's in the yellow since in my last attempt he seemed to only use physical attacks at that point and not try anything else, and since I noticed how fucking fast my MP was tanking trying to heal up there, I need my MP to be full before he's at that point instead of trying to stabilize myself in the middle of it.Definitely a grind of a fight, dude is not in the yellow yet on this attempt and has actually run out of MP.
>>545947518>>545948574She was split from her real self in the prologue along with the hero and Carver, but somehow she already reunited with her body before you even meet her, except the only time that's acknowledged is one line from the fortune teller and Milly goes through the whole game acting like that didn't happen and she doesn't know any more than the others.
>6 remake adds chapters that show everyone's experiences leading up to the beginning of the game as well as leading up to when they meet the hero again
>>545949087Milly is just a retard. That's itThere's actually no other fucking explanation to why she didn't say Terry was her brother as soon as we met him
>>545920630I'd say the joke is more about how it's unusual to only have one party member in a JRPG - unless you look at very unconventional JRPGs like Dark Souls (even then, you can summon help). It's probably because it was at least in part inspired by TLoZ which released a bit earlier. And that game also has a famous line about it being dangerous to go alone, incidentally, but I wouldn't say that was Nintendo trolling the player.
Alright, alright! I'll admit it! I turned on Suggested Actions! It was just simply nice to know in advance what spells and skills would be more effective!
>>545948952God dammit I was so close... I was keeping track and dealt 2763 damage, and I'm pretty certain he has 3000 HP.Motherfucking cheating bastard starting landing every single attack through dodge dance, phantom mask, and stealth suit, it was impossible to stay healed, so it was impossible to stay up on defence, which made it impossible to stay safe from an instant kill crit, so my only option was to just cop out and pray, and it did not go well.In a flash I went from 138 MP left and feeling hopeful to being on 40 MP and in despair as the situation only got worse every turn.
>hunting mini medals with mai waifu>accidentally take her to the castle>cutsceneofnoreturn.jpgGODFUCKINGDAMNIT! RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Some spoilers from DQ2 HD >Dragonlord got laid and has a successorhuh?
>>545954426Just load your autosave.
>just slipped through with mercurial thrust
>>545954610It was a she-slime.
>>545953553I think Suggested Actions is fine since elemental weaknesses aren't super consistent. Fucking about with different elements to find weaknesses just isn't that fun, and it also doesn't tell you resists so you can still get hit with those anyways.
>>545954610It's a reincarnation he's the same person except not corrupted as it was intended.
>>545954105omfg I finally did it. Bastard has at most 3225 HP.Holy shit, that payout14357 EXP and 5250 gold, nice.
>>545954610
What's the absolute latest you can get Matilda?
What lvl were you when beating 2make?
Jesus, Horii. Who hurt you? Why would you put a gauntlet of solo boss fights right at the end of the Road to Rhone? Was this dungeon not infamous enough already??
>>545966945>"I think it could stand to be even harder"- Yuji Horii
What are your thoughts on fat Malroth?
>>545967962I think Buildrick is gonna need a bigger wagon
>>545963382makes you wonder who his parents were.
>>545966945>>545967439Turns out it was just one boss. Still, it came out of left field. The Road to Rhone is as cruel as ever...
>>545968147Personally I’m looking forward to all the Creatrix x fat ugly bastard doujins
>>54596690760
Citadel tower in dq2re is such a massive jump in enemy difficulty wtf
>>545928832i like 2hd but i think its once again the weakest of the trilogy
Act 3 filtered millions.
>>545928832Bianca is the canon wife I doubt they're gonna add more content for the others that barely anyone chooses.
It's pretty much impossible to go to Beran straight after getting the boat in 2 there's Cold Boulders casting kacrackle and one shotting you every other encounter. They must have intended you to do Alefgard first.
>>>/vr/12162461
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>>545689854not enough porn of this monster
>>545978452>They must have intended you to do Alefgard first.Well, that's what the bestiary orders the intended path of monster progression for.
Erdricks sword in 2 becomes weak due to old age, forged by the Luminary from XI aeons/millennia ago, and Zoma/Dragonlord’s attempts at destroying it
>>545987398Dragon Quest VII: Deodorized
>>546007853Does it actually become weaker? I thought it had the same attack as in 1, but since you're exploring more of the world, you end up finding a sword that's stronger.
How did the Princess of Cannock get to Beran and then Yggdrasil without a boat?
>>546013752She peeked at your map and used chimaera wings. You did visit Yggdrasil before doing Beran, right?
>>546014862No I visited the flame shrine at the beginning of the game and just travelled from there.
I'm going to build an Auschwitz for slimes.
>>546016295Auschwish?
>>546013752Didn't she ride over with the other soldiers when they arrived in Beran as a stowaway?
Why does Moonbrooke start taking 100k+ per level in the 50s its not fair I want my characters to be the same level but now I can't
>>546022468This game has King Hydras to grind on like 3
>>546016295Work sets goo free
>>546013752Comedy character superpowers, like how Deb can effortlessly wield Hela's Hammer despite being a lazy neet or how Kandar's surrender is impossible to reject.
>>546007853The Super Sword of Light was the Sword closest to Erdick’s sword, and that was the only one not forged by Luminary.
>>546028997It was made by the original luminary Erdwin who looks exactly like Erdrick
>>545976598I only ever choose Nera
>>545976598I only ever choose Debora
>>546029371I completely forgot Erdwin was the original Luminary lol
Matilda's MP fart is extremely useful in boss fights
Dragon Quest 12 will be at the japanese state of play. Make sure you watch it.
>>545935282Veronica and Serena are 16 in the Japanese script, 18 in the Western one.If you want to theorycraft, you could also guesstimate how long it took them to travel from Hotto to Arboria.Veronica's 3D model is 100 cm, but in the Guide, it's listed as 110cm; everybody else's height matches their 3D models.We know Veronica talks about sitting on Hendrik's shoulders, so we know it's Act 3 Veronica in the Interview.If she had grown 10cm, the journey from Hotto to Arboria could've taken around 1.5 to 2 years.
>>545932871>tfw you are close to hendricks ageI'm so old bros, I'm like the team dad
>>546038006You're not the only one.
>>546038006Next year for me to be just like him
>>546035802They're not gonna showcase another DQ game when DQVIIR is coming out in like four months
>>545932871When DQ11 came out I was about Jade's age.
>>546035802
>>545916123** You get the sphere of light from a post game dungeon and give it to the dragonlord's grandson for a harder version of the DQ1 final boss. He upgrades the sword/shield of Erdrick which unlocks the true final boss. You fly on Ramia to fight the true final boss (Malwrath) while the DQ8 final boss theme plays. In the epilogue the party goes to Aliahan and meets the descendant? of the DQ3 heroes mom.**
>Underwater zone has monsters from later DQ games to fill out the rosterNice touch.>>546042491You've gotta highlight and ctrl+S or type [ spoiler] [ /spoiler] without the spaces in the brackets.
>>546042491Malwrath seems to be Calasmos having reincarnated with all the great evils of Alefgard empowering him, owing to H O W H E S P E A K S L I K E T H I S.
>>546042839Most remakes backport monsters from later games.
>>546044305It's happened before, but on top of all the one-off bosses it's a lot more than usual.
>>546043932That appears to be the intention, at least at some point. Internally, Malwrath is called Calasmalroth. But in Japanese, he's simply called Magashido, which doesn't appear to have any connection with Calasmos' Japanese name.
>>546042491It's the party from II? The cheevo makes it seem like you take over Erdrick again. Weird.
>>546046826The party knew basically nothing about the DQ3 Erdrick he was kind of forgotten with the passage of time.
Was there a hint somewhere about the Weirdwood that I missed? Usually these sorts of repeating map mazes have some kind of hint somewhere and I don't remember anyone ever talking about it. The game can't expect me to bruteforce the solution, does it?
>>546047451With the cheevo being called "Welcome Home Muffin" I figured it was a sort of like one of those dream-like afterlife sequences in which Erdrick finally returns home, a sequence separate entirely from whatever goes on with II's party. Huh, gonna be interesting to see it myself when I finally get there in like 2 months because I don't want to rush.
>>546047690I triggered the solution just by walking left for a while. I did have the princess with me though, I don't know if it's different when you're alone.
>>546047690There's only one person in the game who can dispel illusions
wait for christmas or buy dq1&2 now
>>546047451Erdrick meeting Xenlon in DQ3 is apparently not canon, so Mom is left all alone with no husband and no word from her child.
Whats the easiest way to get a War Drum in dq2re? I'm in the post game so I can go anywhere/do anything.
>>546050936The overworld has been peaceful for hundreds of years so they knew he won
I hope DQB3 happens thanks to the ending of DQ2HD. Builders 1 only had a portion of the world of Alefgard and some regions of 2. Builders 2 had Moonbrooke.
>>545954620It cant be helped, there was a medal i missed there. Not gonna restart now, but ill remember for the next play thru
>>546053780She only knew her child had defeated Baramos and left on a new adventure. Past that, she's been left in the dark all alone for who knows how long. I would hope there's at least some hyperbolic time effect going between the worlds so she hasn't been waiting so absurdly long while centuries pass below.
What level were you guys when you finished the Cave of Confusion in 2re? This place is so damn long I got a feeling I'll be around level 70 at this rate on draconian.
>>546058078I hope aChrono Trigger remake would give us a new ending instead of that PS version.
It's wierd how the sea monsters at the top of the DQ2 map are higher level while it's the opposite with land monsters being weaker the higher you are.
>>546062710I was pretty surprised the first time I tried to sail from Midenhall and ate shit immediately
I forget how the world and plot of Builders 2 even worked and whether it would make sense but if I was in charge of nu-DQ2 I'd have found an excuse to include Babs with huge pixel tits
>everyone thought the remakes would answer long-standing questions everyone had>just introduced new ones
I found the humanoid Mordegon harder than his actual big form... Act 2 beaten I guess? Act 2 definitely dragged a lot compared to part 1 and didn't really out time into the segments I liked. Also I'm not fond of how Jade and Sylvando were basically stuck using the tornado and gold drop abilities since I didn't have a good fucking mage for so long.
>>546064485The Horii special.
>>546058078She was there when Zoma crashed the party in the throne room, and since he didn't come through on his threats she would have to have known that her child won.
Was act 2 where the game actually ended in some version? It really doesn't feel like there's meant to be any game left. Is act 3 actually just the postgame?
>>546067013Nope. Act 3 was there from start.
>>545531159Objectively Channel Anger, Ladies First, Magic Burst, Elfin Elixir, repeat greatly outdamages Eric and Jade, dealing around 15k damage per turn at level 99 without even getting into MP stacking.
>>546067013Act 3 was always there, but yes, it's much more like an expanded postgame (and kind of a DQ3 tribute) than a proper third of the story the way the first two are.
>>546067013Act 3 is simultaneously a post-game and the real ending. It has the effort of your average post-game (aka it feels like extra content), but it's mandatory to get the true ending.
Iron Knights, Steely Statues and Hardy Hands are fucking bullshit I cant fucking stand enemies who's entire gimmick is taking double digit damage from practically every source
dq11 has the most nonsensical timetravel plot, it makes absolutely no sense with the explanation given.
>>546067205But they gave us an FMV, and credits, and a star on our file, and made us fuck off to the title screen!I feel the final fight was a bit underwhelming all things considered. He barely used the annoying stuff like the gold orb and I'd just unlocked Erik's last sword skill before the fight so just spamming divide and that practically skipped phrases. Also the tail is fucking stupid looking
Well, well, what have we got here? Tactics control for Dragon Warrior 4? Cool shit.https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/9221/
>>546067013No matter what the naysayers say, Act 3 is the real ending. The true final boss is in the very first cutscene when starting a new game, even if you don't realize it at the time.
>>546068130Wouldn't be the first time. 8 and 9 both did the same thing. Only difference with them is that 8's postgame takes place before the final boss and 9's postgame takes place afterwards but doesn't have a second ending.
>>546068094I'm already fully prepared to fucking hate it lol... Just speedrun a "save everyone and nobody is hurt" ending lol. It'd be like playing 5 and when you're all done beating on Nimzo you fuck off back in time, don't get kidnapped against Landja, and marry the opposite wife for the luls
>>5460685039 was just an excuse to hook up with your gyaru bitch gf again before she puts out for the old man lol
>>546068503Don't forget 7 having you explore what happened to The Almighty.
11's postgame's story is shaky but at least it's fun to play. 4's is the worst of all worlds, a miserable slog and it hurts the story as much or more
>>546069174I thought you were immediately tossed into metal slime farming once you hit act 3? Even if I grind there's only like three characters who I actually want more skills on. Sylvando has three whole weapon trees and I want nothing in any of them lol... Rab, Jade and Hendick aren't much better. Mc and Erik are the only ones I'm paying any attention to what I'm doing on the skill tree for 90% of the game.
>>546069607Jade is like the most consistent dps for a long time with her spear tree.
>decide to farm some cash and upgradey gear before going to the weeping isle>gold golems will hook me up>whistle, 2 appear>one defends, the other musters strength>defendingchamp.jpg>one attacks, dodge easily>the other makes a desperate attack>kills me instantly, all 301 hp>mfw>mfw not even on draconian
>>546069607You'll probably want to hunt metal slimes eventually but it's not necessary. The map is basically open and some areas are too tough for you to start with, but there's stuff you can do right away and it's not hard to level up normally. I recommend following the story objectives until the game officially sets you loose though, and the Drustan trials have a lot of good equipment you can grab by dashing through the levels, so that's a good place to start.
>>546069779I know she's supposed to get triple thrust early but I missed it... most of act 2 she's been using the love tornado thing since it does more damage than half her actual attacks. I did get the 7 hit kick for the final boss tho. Spending time on claws or spears when she gets everything she wants with fists just seems daft.
>>546069174>it hurts the story as much or moreHow? Did they say it's canon?
>>546069954spam cop out for those guys love to kill their teammate and then themselves
>>546070107Think about it this way: You've got extra skill points to spend, and your equipped weapon provides benefits to fisticuff skills. May as well pick a weapon type and get more boosts to your fisticuff skills.
>>546070256It's more than canon, it's cute!
>>546070420That'd be amazing if love tornado required anything but charm XD
>>546070256Whether it's "canon" or not doesn't change that it's a worthless addition to / revision of the story and a waste of the idea of recruiting the villain as a party member. It should've been an extension of the story where you team up with Psaro after defeating him instead of a weird half-assed AU thing.
>>546070107Multifeet is only better than Multithrust extremely late into the game when your damage scaling plateaus and its higher hit count means more chances to fish for crits.Spears are just better for the rest of the game because you get Multithrust (same multiplier as feet but available way earlier), Thunder Thrust for slimes and Crushed Ice for ice weak enemies like a certain boss that gives many people a hard time during Act 2. For crowd control, Allure is great since you just spam Pink Tornado or whatever but its definitely inferior to her other moves for bossing.
>>546070950I'd basically been relying on mc and Erik for boss fights. Just trying to get Oomph and Sap off and going wild with sword dance. I haven't really used Jade as much for bosses since with revamp and the like she just goes through her mana pool so quickly. For the final boss I actually swapped mc out too just so I could consistently get all of Erik's buffs up lol. I haven't been fussed about elements or anything
>>546023813Nice
>>546071578revamp is one of the more efficient buffing skills in 11 and jade gets a free mp regen accessory all the way back in act 1 if you bothered to do sidequests. hell, multithrust just shits all over everyone else with no effort right away.but given your playstyle, i can see why you wouldn't really notice what most of the cast can do.
Almighty Magic Burst and Magic Burst greatly outdamage anything Eric and Jade can put out, the only downside is that you have to make your entire team play for it (Ireburn becomes just an Elfin Elixir dispensary and Sylvando a Ladies First machine while Veronica deals all the damage and Serena heals) and grind Medals for around 10 Elfin Elixirs (and at last 20 for the Time Wyrm).
>>546073779Divide + Persecutter/Victimizer has the highest burst damage in 11. Magic Burst is like second but its more consistent since you aren't as vulnerable to disruption and the ability to hit everyone on the field is valuable for certain fights.After that, its just going down the list for stuff generically useful moves (Double Down, Sword Dance, Multifeet, etc) and whatever's good against weakness (Kafrizzle/Crushed Ice, etc)
Is there a way to make Mariella a less of an annoying as fuck fight on Draconian?
>>546077641yeah you just gotta switch to dracky
>We must go, our kingdom needs us
>>54596690735
>>546022468bro, your elevating vest?
>>546077641You can crush her in four hits. You literally just need to get lucky and have the silver dude not guard.
If I was to start 2hd over, I would give every single seed of wisdom to caradoc.
I should have known this asshole wasn't going to let me get all wishes in one go.
i want to replay DQB2 now
>>546074374Does it really outdamage Almighty Magic Burst after Channel Anger?
>>546083005Why?
>>546083929Kazap just seems to do more than any spell peronel has, despite him having half the wisdom.
>>546082484What move should I be using to "crush l her in four hits"? The most I do is 500-600 with an Egg on + Oomph on the Hero double edge. I have been fighting her for an hour now and the Silver Guard never NOT guards. I try to focus her down but the Skeleton's just start desperate attacking and there's too much damage to try and mitigate. I'm level 32 with everyone.
>>546084026She can be sapped and then you should be hitting for 1200.Or I was, anyway.Oh yeah, matilda can land a shocking slash on her as well, which can also trivialize the fight.
Where's a good place to find metal slimes in DQII? I'm not looking to grind EXP; I just want to fight a few to get the achievement. I remember them popping up around Damdara, but is there a better location?
>>546083258You will beat him at least four times (to get the scrolls) and you will enjoy it.
>>546085201Thankfully you only need to beat him twice for the achievement
>>546084141What level was your hero and what move were you using to get that damage out?
>>546085795I can't remember the level, but I didn't grind before that fight and I played on draconian the whole game.Cannock takes oomph powder because there's not a lot else he can do that fight, so turn one you can sap/oomph/egg on and go from there.If you're still struggling, I recommend just trying to get lucky with shocking slash though. If I seethe enough at any fight, I will do that until I win.
BEHOLD THE TRUE HERO OF DQ2
is there an explaination why goggles are a thing in II?
>>546088425Look cool and protect your eyes from envenomating breath and other nasty shit
>>546084026What I did is egg on + oomph + undead undoer on the adds, instagibs each and gives me a turn or two to flying knee cagebitch. Took a few tries but I think I managed to get her down in about 3 rounds of that cycle. Keep buff and magic barrier up and the Cannocks should be able to largely keep up with the healing.>>546084726I think I saw a few around Dirkandor, and someone else mentioned it earlier so it's probably a good enough spot.
Any advice for the Ghost Ship boss on Draconian? I'm like Lv.50. I have Have Caradoc set up as an Omniheal bot with Mad Cap and Glombolero, and I'm Kabuff stacking with Matilda. I think the problem is I'm not doing enough damage because of the regen, or the boss deflects attacks every time I'm set up with Midenhall for a spicy Unbridled Blade.
>>546086223>>546091965Well, I beat her and I really didn't do anything differently. Knights didn't block every fucking turn and skeletons didn't single target characters constantly with back to back crits. I guess my problem was just trying to ignore the Skeletons for the entire fight until she was dead, when in reality they were the real threat damage wise.
Man the lead up to the true final boss in dq2 is excellent, I can't wait to see what they'll do with the next hd-2d games.
I think Builders 3 should have been Psaro's game. Or whoever from XI. could you imagine that?
Building a really big cake for Serena
>>546094016based brute forcer
>>546098590Drunk delinquents don't deserve cake
>>546083258He's harder in 2 without the monster pile-on cheese
so do you unlock something in dragon quest 2 remake if you beat dragon quest 1 first?
>>546116121No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dUZfBTbI0kI heard this and thought it'd make a good castle theme in Dragon Quest, what do you think?
>>546116841a bit too fast, putting it at 0.75x i can see it
>>546111672>monster pile on2HD still has Wild Side + Egg On + Oomph + Cutting Edge/Persecutter
It really feels irresponsible to have ridded the land of the lord of evil but then go back in time and revive him just so we can get our loli gf. If we fuck up and Mordegon wins that'd just be plain embarrassing
Serena regrets her shitty hairdo so much she risks the world to fix it
>>546120297Going back in time saves more than just one life, thousands died during the original catastrophe.
>>546120861People die all the time. They could have rebuilt and the world was in a fairly good position all things considered. If it was that easy to save people then why didn't we go back to before Dundrasil fell? Or that fifth kingdom that had been destroyed? Actually, since all you need to turn back time is the sword and the door trinket which was literally five foot from the ruins why didn't Mordegon do that trick? He has far less moral reasons not to and since he keeps all his levels and stats he could have gone way back
Aww... poor Jasper doesn't realise we're on NG+... Also we absolutely could have done this to him in the first cycle
>>546068436The "spirits of lost time" literally did nothing of importance until the re-releases, so overlooking the evil black one is understandable.
Is there some way to limit the party size in DQ2 so you can grind characters quicker like in DQ3?
>>546127139Yeah, kill the ones you don't want to level up for the time being.
>>546122348>People die all the time.Yeah, but people generally don't like dying sooner than they think they're supposed to.
https://frvr.com/blog/news/dragon-quest-7-reimagined-has-a-completely-reworked-into-to-get-players-into-their-first-fight-in-less-than-two-hours/
>>546129289That's what they said for the 3DS version, too, and it was still a good 30 minutes to reach the first Slimes.
>>546129289i never understood this mentalityjust like with the legend of zelda twilight of princess: "the intro is too long!!! they should shorten it!!!"like, why? its not the full display of the game mechanics, but its still very well made and enjoyable. its not like its a full blown tutorial that is mandatory until you get to the meat and potatoes. it is part of the game and it is good. its only bad "maybe" if you want to replay the game once you beat it
>>546130829People buy video games to "play" the "game". Long intros where you dont get to engage with the core combat within the first 30 are generally disliked. See Persona 4.
hello, new thread?
>>546130829I get what you're saying, and DQ7 has my favorite prologue to any game ever, but Twilight princess is a horrendous example, that intro actually drags.
Fucking rhinos. Always get so close to killing one, and then they critical-hit someone to death through all their buffs and it all goes down the toilet.
Playing around with the screens on a DS emulator, what's your preferred way to have them positioned? Using MelonDS, if it matters.
>>546141254I prefer the primary screen/smaller secondary screen setup with a hotkey to swap them, personally. Doesn't play nice with scenes that use both screens' positioning like that boat though.
>>546141254Everything I try to rearrange them bothers me so I end up sticking with the screens stacked vertically with a 64 pixel gap
>>546141254>>546142371For DQ4-5-6 that's the way to do it. There are other games where a setup like >>546142107 works fine if you're playing on a chinkheld or something but I wouldn't want to play the DQ remakes that way.
>>546142107>Doesn't play nice with scenes that use both screens' positioning like that boat though.Yep.Your setup seems nice though.>>546142371Fair enough. Sometimes wish I wouldn't have practically given away my DS :p>>546142648So a lot of sections that utilize both screens, like the boat?
