Tournament in two weeks? Zetabrown fantasy.Congrats Soriz and Gran(ex) on their victories.Patch notes:https://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/news/detail/?id=n9yk6vwrucj9Meg guide:https://youtu.be/Cs9PNrfOKb0?si=ijQouwyeJyPqW-k2 [Embed]>/gbvsg/ Tournament VODshttps://rentry.co/du3onotehttps://www.youtube.com/@grumblebumble69/--->(Un)official /gbvsg/ PC lobbyTo join, turn Crossplay off in System settings so that you're able to join Platform lobbies.Then you can join the (un)Official /gbvsg/ PC lobby at Japan Platform Lobby 1. Image version of joining instructions @ https://i.imgur.com/bCHqtDL.pngPlaystation players cannot join the lobby, use a room if needed instead.>(un)Official /gbvsg/ RoomsUsually has "gbvsg" as password (check thread). f2players cannot join so ask people to join the lobby instead.>Gawdlike character guides (secret techniques!) for Yuel, Vikala, Narmaya, Galleon and Wilnas, by yours truly Anon!https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjG9OYMNRivtA_KWepE_aFmhGOJc2zETR&si=MqZagR-IO8ue8gxQ>This week's F2P rotationGran, Meg, Lowain, Cagliostro>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2157560/Granblue_Fantasy_Versus_Rising/>Websitehttps://rising.granbluefantasy.jp/en/>Resources:https://www.dustloop.com/w/GBVSR>Twitter hashtagshttps://twitter.com/YamicornDMV/status/1709222479061745711>Match replayshttps://replaytheater.app/?game=gbvs>Graphic Enhancements for PChttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3117157142>Enable sound while the game runs in the backgroundhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/2157560/discussions/0/4041481833167877002/>Remove Figure Mode censorship/black voidhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/484409Previous Bread: >>545781348
>>545933636Why did you remove the bin with all the cock photos from /gbvsg/ anons from the OP?
>>545919543>and zero human female/elf male oneAndreth and Aegnor.Yes, I'm such a Tolkien-autistic that I had to tell you here as well.
Nigga Zeta
tsugi no postaa indohito ni yotte reipu sareta
>kekhander thread
>>545933917this is what your mom said when I fucked her
>>545933636chocosex
>>545933636>brown ZetaBASED BASED BASED
You'se bakas are hidoi, you should get bukkorosued
>>545933930hes based
ohOhhhhhOHHHHHHHHHH!
Sikhander won.
This is your official warning:In 24 hours I will be publishing a list of every known anon who uses the dub. Change it now or forever be shamed the moment I open your replay.
YOU WA SHAWRK
sikhander would win the "loser advances in bracket" tournament
anata wa nezumi ni nareru
>>545934182No need to, I'll do it for you:Fearnezumikuthinking (na)raggerwakeup sweepxeromrend the skyhatsoonagripepsivictoriquetankbuildchoccogamerahappy skipper (defected)tsukuyomi mayazooey pit lickerFearnezumikuwakeup sweepxeromrend the earthhatsoonagripepsilostriquetankbuildliterally nothinggamerahappy skipper (defected)meiya mitsurugizooey pit lickerBaronHopenezumikuthinking (na)raggerwakeup shitxeromhatsune mikutankbuildliterally nothingniggerco0range Planetgamerahappy skipper (reflected)meiya mitsurugizooey pit lickerFearnezumikuthinking (na)raggergodhanderwakeup sweepxewomrend the earthhatsroonagricokevictoriquetankbuildliterally nothingchoccogamerahappy skipper (defected)meiya mitsurugizooey navel lickerFearthinking (na)raggertroonwakeup sweepxeromrend the earthhatsoonagripepsivictoriquetankbuildyour momliterally everythinggay anongamerahappy skipper (defected)BaronFearnezumikuthinking (na)raggerswizzletakohatsoonagripepsi
Finished epilating bro. The chest is absolute pain to do and I just noticed a missed a whole side of one of my arm.Granblue fantasy versus rising twitch
>>545934205>I refuse to participate in shit eating so I move to India
>>545934000need this character in the game
i luv sheep
>>545934393i changed my name please update this
>>545934393I'm not on here please update this
>>545933834They didn't fugg, so doesn't count. Also I did specify 'major', so small footnotes like them aren't included.
bikky buffs?
>>545936547LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Meet your season 3 guest
>>545936547Here are the next characters to receive buffs.
>>545936762pleeaase
>>545937149You forgot to add Belial and Avatar Belial.
>>545937149>no 2Bimma take another break from the game then...
>>545937149you seem to have accidentally checked charlotta instead of djeeta.
>>545937431true she needs buffs
Your next BP skin in January
>>545937149>"Surely, they will buff Charlotta this time..."Give up, bwo
>>545937149I want galleon buffs but i just know she will be the next "yuel/anila" shitpost for the new few months
>>545938265She's received nonstop buffs since launch, and the only thing they've nerfed was her safe-on-block DP. Genuinely what are you on about?
>>545937775>FootwearI refuse
instead more vira buffs
>>545937775i cant tell the difference between this and her default
>>545938576Different socks, no white fabric, also this one wear sandals
>>545938426Season 2 is a different metagame. You are told this every time you bring up her pre-2.0 buffs
>>545937706yep she needs a command throw to have real pressure without getting a 66L and prox normals
>>545938426erm her now easily punishable on block sba?
The american abomination is gone and they're gonna show UNI on the telly next, if anyone gives a shit.No, I said UNI, not Yuni.And by god am I fucking sick of hearing that WEEEEWAAAANTNOIIIGHTTT fuckass song
>>545939403facts, she is all knowledge checkspeople should really learn the match up, pretty pathetic how everyone still just lets 2b win almost ever na onliner
>>5459397422b needs a fullscreen sweep
How do you even buff Charlotta without making her a broken monstrosity?
>>5459399105H should be a guard crush
>>545934108I didn't know you could link off knee
>>545939957Are you implying FKHR cares in the slightest about not making characters into broken monstrosities?
>>545940035No, I'm implying FKHR only makes characters that he likes broken, and he doesn't give a Vikala's ass about harvins
>>545939510damn uniCHADS looks like CHADS??
All characters should have a command throwAll characters should have a fireballAll characters should have a meterless DPAll characters should have a teleporting neutral skipAll characters should have a command jumpAll characters should have a buff installAll characters should have a deployable trap setplayAll characters should have a divekick and air stallAll characters should have a blue grenadeAll characters should have a parryAll characters should have a self-heal mechanicOnly then will it be balanced
>>545940248>Yes I play Vatista, how could you tell?
>>545940248lynne main on leftdisgusting merkava player on the right
>>545940248I remember seeing a dude that looked like the Chag meme guy during a UNI tournament. He also had a big tiddy goth GF accompanying him.I realize this sound like I'm making this shit up so I won't blame you for not believing me.
>>545938423Yes I'm thinking....623H can choose to sideswitch
>>545933636Yuki Tsukumo?
Can't americans have commentators that just look normal? That one neckbeard with a squeaky voice we have doesn't seem that bad to me now.God I fucking hate LA, I fucking California, I can't wait for the day it just collapse under the weight of its own depravity.
>>545940489Waldstein player named ArgenHe was in top 8 at CEO
>>545940489It's okay, even if I said I didn't believe it, it would just be out of raging jealousy.
>>545941153>WaldsteinExtremely on-brand
>>545941019pretty normal dudes here https://www.twitch.tv/downtownrumble
>>545941153Yeah that's the guy, but I guess my brain had an aneurysm because the dude is actually kinda fat and not that Chadesque. So either that or I'm thinking of someone else, but since he do play Waldstein I'm inclined to think it's the man I was thinking of.
What is the maximum amount of rollback frames possible in this game?
>>545941716the counter stops at 7
all girls in this game should twerk on my fiver
>>545942018And your other dimensions?
>>5459417167, and if that's not enough to handle your opponent's connection the game will start stuttering as it waits for packets to arrive
>>545943112https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un2Gs_4zh_U
https://x.com/LeiYunWolfy/status/1987509970230002063
>>545943343I ain't clicking that shit
>>545943745I feel like a female draph wouldn't walk around topless like that, not necessarily for cultural reasons but because those things are fucking flopping about and have to be inhibiting to daily activity without something to at least slightly restarin him
>>545943745>click on it>top 2 vs top 1>close tabyawn
I want a punish for this...
>>545944559dont you see? now he will die in one hit because he spent his oh so hard to manage BC carelessly!! its fair and balanced :)
>>545934393>been here since the beginning>still not on the listDo I need to post Yuel sex to get on the list or something?
>>545944559Nerf the plus frames on buttons and you can have your punishable brave counter. It's way too easy to bait them right now.
>>545944559trans charlottatrans charlotta
>>545945032Damn, the thread just started and we already got the most retarded post!
>>545945037Charlotta says trans rights
>>545944559ummm your parry button????
why do we hate beelzebub so much?
>>545945282People are quitting this shit game for a reason, and it's not because of brave counter
>>545945509Are you trolling?
>>545945638Are you? Only high level players complain about BC.
>>545945334divekick man
>>545945710Instead of changing your argument every post come back to your original dogshit-retarded one, and name all the buttons that can bait brave counter, since "it is too easy to bait BC right now."
>>545944559CharGAWD
>>545941716>>545943251>>545941819it can go above 7. ive seen 8 and 9.
>>545945037don't shitpost using my wife
>>545946409I'd post Charlotta top surgery but she has no tits to lop off
>>545930436>>545930346it got worse bros
>>545946685what are you watching
>>545944559dp or ssba after this?>>545946824still kizziekay for undernight
>>545946685Post it then
i really don't care if you think someone on a stream is ugly
when is ilsa
>>545946875lmao nice sag
>>545946982now. right here *unzips*
Why is this game so dead? It's Sunday during primetime?
>>545946982At least an hour from now.
>>545946894its not the appearance its the fake tits and naked anime girl butt tattoo
>>545946894I asked, I care
>>545946982about 5 months :)
>>545947267 (me)maybe im wrong actuallydid it say early 2026 or spring 2026 in the trailer?might be like 2.5 months
Assuming I'm not retarded and got the wrong schedule, it'll soon be our turn.
im reinstalling...
>>545948602and you are?
>>545948602daigo umehara
>>545948602welcum back risington
>>545948652Hotashi
>>545948652reinstalling
>>545948709I laughed...
>>545948602welcome back
>>545948709I didn't laugh
I laughed really hard, I laughed so hard my stomach started bleeding
>>545948864das gawdlike
i cancelled the reinstall...
>>545949006no I didnt dont try to steal my clout
>>545948602We missed you, Nezu.
I was losing interest in Grub but I reinstalled because of Wilnas.It is no exaggeration to say that for me, Wilnas saved the same.
>>545949075and you are?
>>545949006it's over
>>545949245When are we getting Everyman as a playable character
>>545948602are you in the crew? let me know and i can make some room if not
>>545949382I'm not, please kick out 10 people for me and my 9 friends
>>545949382i will never be in the crew, i will never join the lobby, we will never be friends
>>545949623don't check your friend request list
>>545949623I thought we were friends
>>545949656i'm permanently offline so i can't and never will
>>545948709I laughedTIE BROKEN
Grubs for this feel?https://youtu.be/Nq_r19xoKJE?si=JIUcSw1d86CMfA3F
>>545949006
>>545949623ft10 senko no ronde 2
bets?
>>545950512GranGAWD
>>545952060saltz/destin/ppman for maximum drama outside of bsg winning.
his vastness status?
>>545952652I think he's actually getting bigger?
>>545952652give praise for he has no equal
Fate status?
das
Niia is ugly...
...is what I say, after consuming copious amounts of crack
https://www.twitch.tv/kizziekay310come home grubman
>>545953124Nier's face? uglyNier's voice? uglyNier's personality? the ugliest
>>545953124...on the regular day
...it's always the regular day
...which is the fucking joke
its actually sunday stupid
Every day might be regular but together they might make a Special Week
>>545953856oh yeah? Then where's the sun? It's dark out!
>>545953924
the shit 8 has startedcommence the shitposting protocol
>>545953318we are live btwhttps://www.twitch.tv/kizziekay310dub imminent
>zane: "nyoooo they nyerfed grimnir he is terrible now">also zane: *picks grimnir*
>play seox>can beat people 10x your skill levelit's THAT easy
>play cag>can beat people 10x your skill levelit's THAT easy
>play rising
>>545954801This is someone's masturbatory aid
>>545954860my bedwarmer is pretty
>>545954336I'd rather play but everyone is 200+ ms.
>>545955198i will play you. certified 160ms+
>>545955042Mickeybros we OWN this game.
>>545954801>>545955105BC whore
>>545954623>play djeeta>beat by people 1/10 your skill level>it's THAT hard
>>545955316berry cute? yes!
What is Elsa on the Zesty scale exactly?
bottom tier zooey over belial? oh my days.
>>545955280125 is my bottom cutoff
>>545955563Ironically, quite non-zesty.
so Lowain is just busted
So Anila's just busty
>cag is le good
>>545956390this but unironically
lobby status?
if Elsa could actually land his conversions he’d win way more
>>545956470this but ironically
>>cag is leee good
So Zoi is just busted
Can we unbust the game yet or is it too late
cagliostro is a choose to lose character
sorry anon i forgot the pain of actually using this controller with steam/windows.
NOW we fight
Seeing Cag players get bullied from range fills me with so much joy.
>>545955428Djeeta is still pretty good, this post is delusional
>>545959812Post your Jitta win rate.
>>545960078:'(
Making BC minus on block without touching what moves can block it has to be the worst change in the history of the game. On most characters kits only 40+ frame jump buttons and cL can bait it while Metera can do it with:>cL>Jump normals>Hop normals>Any butterfly pop, including the unfuckwithable U one>fL meaty>Spaced fL>623X>Air arrows that also bait throws, 2Ls, DPs, etc.and the rest of her pressure outranges it. Actual clown shit
I'm considering buying a plushie of either my neechang or my danchou
>>545960509>Not buying them both so you can watch in the chair Amateur.
>>545960509Where can I buy such things?I would love to have a nee-chan plushie, I would treat her with care and love unlike that one guy from the webm...
>>545961065This may look like it hurts the Narmaya, but it's imperative that you take her out for daily flip training exercises. This is healthy for her and necessary.
kanme...kollusion....
>>545961524Stop it...
>throw H butterfly>can still anti air the jump
i glued the joint that holds my dash button in place and it doesnt press the same, the tolerance isnt the sameits glued the same way and it doesnt workits not fair
I still don't use the dash button because there was no comfortable place to put it. I simply live with the improperly buffered 66Ls.
>>545963263This but with the block buttons just because i hate it on an instinctual level.
ggs grannas anon. thanks for playing and for waiting.
Holy mickey matchup batman...
I am not rooting for Metera, I am rooting against Zane.
bc turned raging strike lets go
MONARCHYOU HAD METER
>214U>214U>214U>214U>214Usasuga cygames
>>545962117If you don't give your Narmaya daily exercise and training her ex flip won't be plus ob anymore
Desu... we haven't been in any important Top 8s in ages...
shouldnt have gutted niia to make a new meta for private discordsenjoy your shitshow top 8s faggolas
broken ass zooey in my grandfinals?
Nier is directly responsible for the direction that the game has gone in.Her legacy is nothing but festering shit, just like her.
so when does zoi get to play the game
Holy copeenjoy your meta retard
Zoisisters, he was supposed to lose 3-0 and then switch back to Bea so we can get more buffs what is he doing
This entire top 8 has been nothing but the players trying their hardest not to let the other guy play...
>>545968550Hefty...
>>545968550fluffy...
>>545968779nerf her now fukuhara and remove 66m overheads from the game
Are Eustace's backshot balls not rollable? I predicted it a few times but got hit out of my jab every time.
>>545968550i want to lick the water off her tits
golden onion...
Meet your season 3 cast
>>545974725tits too big, tits too big and tits too big.
>>545974725>a season with THREE (3) titty monstersI fucking wish.
>>545974725Ill gladly take monika
Tell me that yesterday's shitposting about Bea was all made in jest. I refuse to believe that anyone in their right mind thinks bea is anything but top 3.PLEASE.
>>545975272Galleon, Wilnas and Ilsa are your titty monsters this season
>>545968852learn the matchup.
>>545975363I do think Bea is in top 3 but the game is in such a fucked up state right now that I think someone could argue otherwise on the grounds of just how bullshit some of the other top tiers have become, pushing her outI despise Narmaya but I can't justify putting her in the top 10 anymore, for a comparison
>>545968852you can roll them
>>545976139>Still defending Bea>Urm maybe Bea isn't top 10 anymoreFucking shit, dude. The skit is over. The joke is long overplayed. That's enough.Jesus.
Is Bea stronger than Charlotta?
chance of meaty?
>>545976410I said NARMAYA isn't top 10 anymore anon, reading comprehension. Bea is top 3 still, it's the first few words of that post
>>545976664draph sized tits
>>545976721Please stop falling for n*zumiku bait in 2025 anon
>>545976831n**u is gone, thankfully
>>545976039I-I'm trying>>545976175I wasn't very clear - I successfully rolled them, but it didn't mean I got to punish the balls with a jab, he would mash jab after I rolled and won every time. Trying to figure out if that's frames or a skill issue.
we used to be mice
Tbh Beatrix was the best thing to ever happen to this game because I can always deflect onto her whenever my main attracts attention
>>545976997He is minus if you roll. Its on you, anon. Most of Eustace's kit is beat by simple rolling and spotdodging.
>>545976947I wish, he's the Bea spammer. Self-admitted too at one point
I'm the Sheep spammer
>>545977182Is it wrong to speak the truth? Is it considered spamming just because I discuss things that make you uncomfortable?
>>545977132Aren't there specific spacings where the balls catch rolls? I remember U balls hitting the opponents' feet and punishes rolls but it's been awhile since I tested it in training mode
>>545977000
>>545977342Yep, that's part of what 'learning the matchup' means, anon..
>>545976831>>545976947Which one was that again?The retard who said that (release) Vane was better than Cagliostro? lmao
>>545977000i remember when anon pointed a gun at us
>>545977524Percival, but yes
How do sheep mate with all that wool in the way?
>>545976947>n*zu goes byebye>new cag coincidentally shows up
>>545933636just visiting this general to ask who is this sexo in the OP???
>>545977425I really despise people like you who parrot the phrase "learn the matchup" to others like >>545976997. Unlike most people he's not complaining to complain. He's asking a question with specific details and is clearly receptive to learning.A huge part of learning in anything is to ask questions, so even dismissing him with "learn the matchup" is counterintuitive. >inb4 well he can just lab itMost people are not great at labbing and it is easy to overlook solutions when you're looking for solutions alone. On the other hand, asking for help can be way more efficient and you can get advice from people with character specific expertise.TLDR; I hate you people sometimes. This general used to be really nice and was more open to giving advice. My opinion of you guys sours by the day
>>545977820sorry bro shes whitehttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=zeta_%28granblue_fantasy%29
>>545977820its Zeta but with an alternate color scheme
It's so annoying fighting characters with neutral skipping teleports as versusia, all it takes is one wrong call on a projectile and they're in your face getting a combo.Luci's feels really bad to play against because you don't have a meterless dp that will beat every teleport option so you just have to hold it.
>>545977820me
>>545977887>shes whiteunfortunate, thank you and >>545977928 for the name but she looks hotter in the OP image than in the link you've given
>>545977867Tell me, if I'm a Eustace player why the fuck would I give away the counter to my gameplan?Dumbshit.
>>545977342from what i recall a while back: you will almost never punish h balls and will almost always be very minus for trying at most distances.ult balls are very punishable on roll.
>>545978636For gameplay reasons obviously telling people the counterplay helps you improve. Practicing against opponents who know level 1 counterplay trains your muscle memory for when you fight other opponents who know it as well.Past just gameplay reasons it's nice to help others and make the community here a better place. But it's clear you don't care about that
>>545978729>you will almost never punish h balls and will almost always be very minus for trying at most distances.I see>ult balls are very punishable on roll.Are they? Do you mean for Eustace or the opponent?IIRC frame data on U balls was a bit weird. You could roll the first volley of balls but would have to block(?) the second bunch. I believe it left the opponent pretty - as well, unlike rolling Eustace 236UI'd have to test it again sometime later
>>545979141i dont recall the specifics but there are definitely ranges where you can roll the ultimate balls and eustace may as well be bending over for attempting to chip you out(-15~). you'd have to actually go into training mode to find out when and where.
>>545977965Characters with large 2Hs can delay press it on reaction to Luci teleport at a specific tight timing and beat all versions. I'm not sure if Mom's 2H is tall enough to reach the H version but if not 623X might work instead.
>>545979518>Characters with large 2Hs can delay press it on reaction to Luci teleport at a specific tight timing and beat all versionsCould be wrong but doesn't Luci's M version counterhit that 2H timing?
>>545978880Nope. All I care about is beating the shit out of subhumans like you and robbing you of your precious gemmies.Now rope.
>>545979703I could be wrong too but an anon labbed a timing with Anila 2H on Luci's release that worked against all 3 meterless versions (don't know about U one). Other characters can also 66L at the L/M teleport timing instead because it makes the H version whiff but I assume it doesn't work with Versusia's dash.
I fell asleep during UNI and woke up to shart gear, who won GB?
>>545979995Charlotta
>>545980197de arimasu
Charlotta won
...the danchou's onahole competition
If you play beatrix and won you didn't earn it
Beatrix won the didn't earn it competition
>VERSUS...>LOWAINhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWPcaB5puKU
>>545977606>>545977524It was both. n**u said Cag was worse than Percival in 1.0 in the comments of IIRC a Chris_G stream, and posted pic about 1.3 Vane being stronger than Cag
>>545983701>n**u said Cag was worse than Percival in 1.0 in the comments of IIRC a Chris_G streamAaand... Everything else... Plays itself.The only thing is that... Cagliostro players... Just like this weirdo n******u, believes that what they're doing, requires more work... THAN THESE GUYS!!!You d- You do realize... N**u... Y-Y-You realize she's... S tier... You do realize that, right?...That's not... Y-Y..."Bottom 5"!T-There's no w-, There's...You think she's better t-t-, you think she's worse than Ladiva?You think she's worse than Soriz?Worse than Anre?Worse than Avatar Belial?Worse than Grimnir?Worse than Katalina?You think she's on the same with Percival???Can I ask you a question then? Whe-Whe-Where do you- How good do you think Percival is?AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This is taken from that clip, it was on streamable but it's gone now
>>545983701the amount of text in his posts always makes me chuckle
>>545983854I have the timestamp on the Youtube video, it's preservedhttps://youtu.be/ETA5GEhT81A?t=2235
>>545983960BASED
nezu would wash all you freaksFREE
>>545986650he was getting annihilated by people that I shit on, so no
My defence solely consists of wakeup 2U into SBAwho am I
>>545983854>believes that what they're doing, requires more workWhy does this sounds like what Kazuya mains would type in T7 /tekgen/?
>>545987712Sieg, Zeta and Gran
>>545987867I've never seen Zetas nor Siegfrieds doing wakeup 2U.
>>545988215
>>545988413that’s a horse
>>545986756i was only losing (and only slightly because they were playing op characters like sieg or nier) to literal pros if i were playing any of the top tiers i wouldve easily beaten themso i seriously doubt that
>>545988432It's also not a 2U on wakeup.
>>545988727horseshoes look like UsGolshi has 2 feettherefore…
>>545988485Please don't impersonate that freak, it's not funny even as an obvious shitpost
>>545989034
>>545989790Sorry...
do combos really need to be 15+ seconds longwhat if when you hit someone you get maybe 7-8 hits and then the combo is overwhat if to get those few hits you need skills like hit confirming instead of just drilling the combo over and over
>>545991363first fighting game?
>>545991530noolder fighting games had short burst combos and then back to pressure. hell even CF is kinda like that unless they get you from a whiffed DP or something. in that case I understand long combos and accept themwhy does everyone here gets 7 hours long combos from anything... im sad
>>545991623>hell even CF is kinda like thatCF is not at all like that>unless they get you from a whiffed DP or somethingyou get a full combo in CF meterlessly off of stray pokes, the hell are you talking about
>>545991623The saddest thing is that Rising has short combos by modern fighting game standards. Combo autism is one of the major reasons why fighters are a niche genre. SF2 had fuck-all combos, was the most popular fighter of all time and yet modern fighters trying to chase after a larger audience refuse to shorten their combos. On the contrary they seem to double down and just increase combo length and complexity over time with patches.
>>545992089false, its annoying when you spread misinformation just because you hate the game. also CF is not the point of my post but just an example
>>545991363haven't you seen 2xko, the savior of the fgclong combos are hypewe love uninteractive gameplay
>>545991363the only fighting games i can think of with shorter combos are samurai shodown, koihime enbu, KOF98 and fantasy strike. Although for some reason the people complaining about combos never seem to play any of those
>>545992095>Rising has short combos by modern fighting game standardsNo wonder anons pointed me to this game
>>545992796Yeah. The universal combo limit helps a lot. The longest combos in the game are from character that can bypass the mechanic, basically.
>>545992258>false, its annoying when you spread misinformation just because you hate the gamei dont hate CF, you're just flat out wrong. A stray f.M in rising for most characters is usually just followed up by a 236x without meter; in CF a stray 5B can lead to an entire launcher combo and carry them to the corner.i dont know why you're bringing up CF for a contender for short combos when its one of the worst non-tag fighter examples, and a simple google search for tournaments or the in-game combo trials can disprove you. You even have characters like Terumi who just loop multiple supers in one combo if they want tohttps://youtu.be/bzdhagy2tYg?si=4fTbdDaVAFLMpTidRising has long ass SSBA cinematics that go on for too long, but the regular ass combos are short
>>545992550Okay let's go in order: Samurai Shodown had incredibly botched launch, wasn't on PC for years, the PC launch was also botched, had delay netcode, and when they tried upgrading to rollback that too was incredibly botched. As a result, nobody plays it, and you can't blame them.I've played fighters for over a decade and I have never heard of koihime enbu, so I don't blame anyone else for not having heard of it either.KOF98 is old krusty kusoge. Even if it has short combos, I'm sure it also has extreme kusoge shit all over. Generally speaking people who want short combos aren't looking for that kind of thing. It's also a SNK game which means it's not officially playable with decent netcode.Fantasy Strike, while indeed having short combos and a lot of great ideas other fighters should copy, is also very experimental and steers a bit too far from what most people are looking for in a fighter. It is also extremely ugly and offputting in a way that even most other ugly fighters aren't.
>>545993620The good thing with SBA cinematics are that most of them trigger only if the first hits of the super don't kill. That should be a mandatory feature in every fighting game.
>>545994041TL;DR: >im not playing samsho because old>im not playing samsho (new) because bad launch>im not playing koiohime enbu because its not popular enough>im not playing KOF98 because old>im not playing fantasy strike because uglylet me guess, you wont play vanilla granblue versus either because its too old, and you wont play play the new COTW game because it has le soccer dude.
>>545994041>KOF98 is old krusty kusoge. Even if it has short combos, I'm sure it also has extreme kusoge shit all over.*cough* command grabs making fireballs unblockable *cough*This works because in that game grabs aren't unblockable, they just make it so the opponent can´t block while they're active so if you use one as your fireball is about to hit the opponent they'll be unable to block it.No but also regardless of how legendary a game is most people will want to play the newer ones, not the over 25 years old ones.
>>545994781I do play it but I also need to goon and chun li doesnt do it I need narmaya
>I need narmaya
>>545994463Short combos are only one of the requirements I have. I'm not going to play a game with dogshit gameplay just because it has short combos, I might as well play World Warrior if that was my cup of tea.I have no idea how good old Samsho games are, but tiny playerbase and my assumption that old games have awful controls is enough to put me off.Same goes for new Samsho, I would actually like to play the game against other people, preferably against people around my skill level if possible and that just isn't a thing for PC Samsho here in the EU. It has eight fucking players currently on Steam. Eight.Same goes for Koihime Enbu, I assume it doesn't have enough players that I could actually play it. If it actually has, I'm willing to give it a try since I know nothing about it.I'm not going to play KoF98 because it's extreme kusoge.Fantasy Strike has less players than Samsho, which had eight. I don't think I need to say more.>>545994781I wasn't the person who mentioned hit-confirming, but I heavily dislike Third Strike, it's the prime example of an ill-thought-out system mechanic ruining an entire game.
>>545994206>be lance>long ass annoying combos full of multi hit normals>SBA initial hit does so little damage im not sure it's even possible for it to KO someone before the full scene playsthey did that shit on purpose to make him more annoying i swear
>>545991363are we complaining about combo time or the amount of hits in a combo? because those are separate things. >what if when you hit someone you get maybe 7-8 hits and then the combo is overGranblue kinda already has that, its a combo limit. >hit confirming thats a thing in GBVR too>drilling the same combo over and over againthe combos aren't hard enough to require drilling. The way you phrased this made it seem your complaint is more about combo variety more than anything
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>>545995156>I'm not going to play KoF98 because it's extreme kusoge.you're playing 66L the game...also your post complaining about the lack of players in these games is kind of my point that i've made in my previous post "for some reason the people complaining about combos never seem to play any of those". They give excuses why they won't play the game, then the ones that they MIGHT like, they excuse with "not enough players" which is a self fulfilling prophecy. If everyone avoids it because there's not enough players, then no ones going to play it. The cool thing about fighting games is that they only take two people to play, theres still people suffering through DNF duel, nen impact, arcana heart, melty blood, soulcal, etc and hosting tournaments for them. even dead kuso like samsho is still getting regular tournaments, both online and offline
you failed the test.naked dogeza now!
Please play the new fatal fury gameits literally everything everybody asks for in fighting games (and some gay celebs)
>>545995902 (me)>>545995156to follow up with my post, this place does regular online tournaments for lesser played games like UNI, samsho, solcal, p4u, and others pretty regularly. they just held a samsho tourney last month even, if you still wanted to play regardlesshttps://tns.gg/events/
>>545991363 When someone complains about it "combos are too long in fighting games :((" I can't imagine it being anyone other than some baby who seethes when they are getting comboed.>DAMN DUDE I DONT WANNA SIT HERE AND WATCH YOU COMBO ME AAAAGH FUCK NOO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING
>>545996916this, seeing combos from both sides is cool, especially for characters that are rarely played
>>545996285>interested in CotW>see it's low in price (around £20)>"maybe it'll get lower">Chun-Li thirst posting starts>now it's back up againI'm too cheap, but I wanna play Hotaru again
>>545995902>you're playing 66L the game...66L isn't a kusoge mechanic. It is a bad mechanic to be sure, but it's not the sort of terrible kuso mechanic that many old fighters have, like universal meterless parry that turns anti-airing into a 50-50 guess in the jumper's favor.>The cool thing about fighting games is that they only take two people to playFuck off. If there's only two people playing the game, I'm completely beholden to the other person's schedule if I want to play. I want to be able to play the multiplayer game by launching it and the game finding me an opponent, preferably one close to my own skill level, not beg for games on fucking Discord. That's not a tall order, it's the bare fucking minimum for a multiplayer game.>also your post complaining about the lack of players in these games is kind of my point that i've made in my previous post "for some reason the people complaining about combos never seem to play any of those".Again, have you considered that people might have some other qualifications for the games they want to play besides 'short combos'? Do you really think the people who desire short combos have a huge overlap with people who enjoy fighting against Super Turbo Claw for example? Or who enjoy command grabs making fireballs unblockable as the other anon earlier said.I can only speak for myself, but I won't touch any fighter that doesn't have an input buffer. Old games without input buffers just feel like dogshit to play. I generally don't enjoy high execution, for me the joy in fighting games is reading and outwitting the opponent. If I enjoyed manual dexterity, I would play a musical instrument.
>>545993620not only are combos long as hell in Blazblue, but its an anime game so normals can be chained into eachother. so even if your poke gets blocked, a lot of the times you can just start your pressure from there, and blazblue has some fucking degenerate ass mixups, made even worse with rapid cancel and overdrive. Theres also stuff like ribcage which are a mess of their own; people joke about Tekken being THE knowledge-check game, but blazblue is like 10x worse with itstill fun af tho. But fuck Mai, braindead ass character
>>545996916Yes you are correct, when I play the multiplayer video game I would like to play against the opponent, not watch them play solitaire or have them watch me play solitaire.Long combos in a multiplayer game are only justified if the game has a combo-breaker mechanic for every combo.
idk what we’re talking about but granblue has longer combos than +r and xrd while having nothing mechanically interesting going on. belial is the worst offender
>>545996916I would be interested in combos if they were hard to perform but they aren't so every time you get hit "Yep, here goes the same, exact, bread and butter everyone does".
>Another day of "500 match D rank" playerWhy... Also how do I stop mashing wtf my fingers move on its own
>>545998724Damn, there are people still playing the PS2 version
>>545998060>when I play the multiplayer video game I would like to play against the opponentYou are playing against the opponent though? Combo is a reward for playing and winning an interaction in fighting games fyi>>545998608> "Yep, here goes the same, exact, bread and butter everyone does".Yeah, that's Rising all around. Everyone knows the combos in this game are easy. Why are you here?
>>545998892>you can't point out something or dislike an aspect of the gameShoo, back to plebbit with you and your hugbox.
>>545998812Have mercy anon, /melty/ and /afgg/ are long gone and I'm too late for the party anyway
Do you think beatrix players know they're carried fraud pieces of trash whenever they win a game?
>>545999664No because we know Eustace, Vas, Seox, Lance, Uno, Perci, Vane, Sieg, Ladiva, Versusia, Charlotta, Ferry, Galleon, Metera, Lowain, Kat, Yuel, Cagliostro, Wilnas, Nier, Belial, Bubs, Luci, Abel, 2B and EX Gran players are 10 times more fraudulent and carried.
>>545999032>>you can't point out something or dislike an aspect of the gameIf you dislike an aspect of a fighting game as huge as fucking COMBOS then yeah, you should definitely fuck off. Especially in Rising where them being easy is the whole selling point.You should definitely leave and not come back. Shitposters like you are ruining this gen lately.
>>545998892When I'm doing a combo and the game doesn't have a combo breaker mechanic, my opponent is not playing. His inputs or decisions don't matter, thus I am playing a single-player game. When my opponent is doing a combo, the same applies to him, while I am essentially watching a cutscene. I would like for most of the time I spend playing be the multiplayer aspect of the game, because that is the reason I am playing a multiplayer game. Instead, a lot of the time in modern fighters most of the game time is spent on the single player aspect of the game, which is nonsensical because fighters are awful single player games, hence why they need to try to make gimmicky single player modes to entice people who like single player content, the regular mechanics of a fighter aren't appealing in single player. This is not hard concept to understand.
>>545999953>Perci>Sieg>Kat>Fox life>Luci>EX Gran??>NIER OF ALL CHOICESat least put in some effort if you want to shitpost. Bea is way more of a fraud then them.
>>546000185Yeah because World Warrior is known for having massively long combos, right? You know, the game that created the entire genre? It's not like it's combos are limited to 3-4 hits, right? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: combo autism ruined fighting games.
>>546000185You have the reading comprehension of a monkey.I don't mind that they are simple. I hate them being long when they're simple and not mechanically complex at all. They're not hard to perform, so what's the point of making them this long?>Shitposters like you are ruining this gen lately.Once again, Reddit is that way. I've been here for longer than you too.
Reply to this post with the things you would do to this woman if given the chance.
>normal thread for the day>still bitching on both sides>i enjoy Rising so I won't cause a shitshow>someone posts Narmaya and monkey>realize I'm in /gbvsg/ and not a /v/ fighting threadjesus christ
>>546000656Look at her from across the room and then go back to what I was doing
>>546000656Why? Your filename does it for me.
I'm deeply gomenasorry for subjecting you to my characters SBA/SSBA so much, having to watch the cutscene so many times.Will make sure to use more corner combos that end with an ult-special, to cash out for damage but also reserve the meter for when it truly kills.
>>546000656Force her to play mahjong
Real Metera lovers sugar their balls.
"Long" combos suck more because they're routine and monotonous. The total length in hits or time is secondary to "combo fodder" being fucking lame.Like Kat doing 66L Triple Attack Blue Sword 66L Triple Attack Blue Sword 66L Triple Attack into cycling cooldowns. So lame. Her name should be Katalamea.Or Lancelot's corner combos that involve him doing multiple instances of 214X~X... More like Lamecelot.Or Narmaya's Setsuna restand combos, letting her repeat almost everything. Lameechang.Or 2B.
2Bored.
>>546000865I will never stop forcing people to watch vikala’s little marching band
>>546000489>Yeah because World Warrior is known for having massively long combos, right?You mean the game whose short combos literally insta-kill you in 4 hits? You rather lose the round instantly than watch a couple seconds longer combo?>inbe4 yesShitposting answer.>>546000535>I hate them being long when they're simple and not mechanically complex at all.Fighting games are divided into1. portion where you play the game2. portion where you pay for doing something that lost to an opponent's option by eating a comboYou, quote, "hate" one half of the fighting game. Once again, you are a shitposter-slave. And I really doubt you've been here longer than me.>>546000252>When I'm doing a combo and the game doesn't have a combo breaker mechanic, my opponent is not playing.Correct, because he played before and lost an interaction. Combo is a reward for playing and winning an interaction in fighting games fyi.
>>546000656tell her shes past her prime and to leave my sight or else her wierd inbred eyes will make me puke
>>546003752>You mean the game whose short combos literally insta-kill you in 4 hits? You rather lose the round instantly than watch a couple seconds longer combo?Yes, but also it is mostly a two-toucher unless you got lucky with a stun, so no different than Rising except that you spend far less time twiddling your thumbs. This is all besides the point, combo length has no fundamental connection to damage.>Correct, because he played before and lost an interaction. Combo is a reward for playing and winning an interaction in fighting games fyi.The reward should not occupy a larger amount of total gametime than the actual interactive part. Saying it's a reward doesn't nullify this fact. Also the actual reward is the damage done which brings you closer to winning the game, a combo is simply a means to achieve that and should occupy as short of a time as possible as not to waste the time of both players and getting back to the actually interesting part of the game (ie. the part of the game where both players play the game).
Here is your Rising champion.
>>546003752>And I really doubt you've been here longer than me.I would love to give you some trivia questions about early /gbvsg/ but you took a fucking hour to reply so I assume you'd just look them up.Long combos just get boring after a while there's no nuance, that's it. I like that this game is easy and simple but it would be even better if those long combos didn't exist. It's like they mixed things that do not mesh well together.The game would be better if they would end after 1 special rather than cycling all of them, even multiple times per combo. The reason why they're this long is also to achieve the 2-3 interactions per round crap with 50% off a corner to corner 66L starter, because of course you can't keep combos like this in the game if they deal half that. Shorter combos, instead, would work well with that concept. Even though I'll admit some fighting games have still 2-3 touches with shorter combos (every hit just deleting you, like Tekken 3).Constantly calling me a shitposter won't deny any of this. Telling others to go away when they're making fair criticism for a game they enjoy playing is children-like, immature behavior and the reason why videogames are in a downfall quality wise.
>>546003576Narm's looks cool thoughever
really need a SFW pregnant Narmaya picture to green text posts I dont like with
>>546003576Narm's tits are big so it's cool thoughever
i think 3 round matches is better than 2 rounds
>really need a SFW pregnant Narmaya picture to green text posts I dont like with
thank you reddit
>>546004486Next BP costume
EVERYTHING I'VE DONE FOR YOU
>>546008115I thought it was the summer bikini.Don't care either way, the Taimanin outfit is hotter.
>>546008348And i would shid on you again
>>546007623
>>546009089That's my pregchang
>>546008650
>>546009089Pump 'n dumping Narmaya!
>>546008348get a job
>>546009267That's fine, she can just lie to the kid and say that she's their big sister.
>>546009267Stepping up to be the betterman and raising Narmaya's PnD'd child!
>>546009249why is her forehead so big gahDAMN
>>546009249>has the same VA as yueli would never have guessed it
>>5460035762b combos are cool leave her out of this
why did Meg flop so hard?
Truth nuke post.I don't believe anyone who says playing against a Lowain/Metera/Cag/Vas/Belial is more insufferable than playing against a beatrix.
>>545999664Do you think ferry players know they're carried fraud pieces of trash whenever they win a game?Do you think cagliostro players know they're carried fraud pieces of trash whenever they win a game?Do you think wilnas players know they're carried fraud pieces of trash whenever they win a game?Do you think 2B players know they're carried fraud pieces of trash whenever they win a game?Do you think eustace players know they're carried fraud pieces of trash whenever they win a game?Do you think galleon players know they're carried fraud pieces of trash whenever they win a game?Do you think metera players know they're carried fraud pieces of trash whenever they win a game?
>>546009249>Tiny Lobelia!
>>546012152
>>546011894Your win rate is sub 50%.
>>546012168>flesh fangSo close to being a cute picture...
>>545983960>>545983854I posted that ages ago but now ill just catbox iti play cag too, that (person) is just really fucking annoying https://files.catbox.moe/k0qv9f.mp4
if I was cag I would have made myself a bbw too
>>546013034Answer the question. Do you truly believe any of those characters are more insufferable to fight than beatrix?
>>546014337why did he scream
>>545983701damn thats crazy
>>546004350>Yes, but also it is mostly a two-toucher unless you got lucky with a stun, so no different than Rising except that you spend far less time twiddling your thumbs.The game that you try to push in this discussion is much more volatile, more than a 2 toucher scumfest than Rising will ever be.https://youtu.be/wSrQcqd_fmw?t=3>The reward should not occupy a larger amount of total gametime than the actual interactive part.And it does not> a combo is simply a means to achieve that and should occupy as short of a time as possible as not to waste the time of both playersAs short of a time as possible? Should combos then always be 1 hit and do the full regular damage of a combo? Ridiculous position.>to the actually interesting part of the gameAt the end of it, if combos are not interesting to you at all, then you shouldn't play fighting games. >>546004550>but you took a fucking hour to replyYes, I love to do some other stuff during my day besides sitting here with a tab open waiting for your reply, how can you tell.>Long combos just get boring after a while there's no nuance, that's itWhat is a long combo to you? I don't find any long enough to be annoying in this game really. l'll give you Lancelot/Metera, but still don't really care about them. Rather than length, it's more annoying how much corner carry combos do.>I'll admit some fighting games have still 2-3 touches with shorter combosIt's true. Vanilla Versus literally had those simple 4-5 hit combos in the corner that were mentioned in this replychain but if you go watch the footage they still did similar to Rising damage. It just basically didn't have many midscreen conversions that did corner to corner compared to this game. In the end, it is more interesting to do longer combos, to chain more attacks together than less. And if you want shorter combos, they still will do similar damage, so just don't be a bitch who gets uncomfortable when an opponent combos you for 8 seconds instead of 6.
>>546015040Absolutely? Are you crazy?Now answer me this question, how would you nerf Soriz?
>>546011894Playing against Lowain, Metera and Cagliostro is way more infuriating than playing against Bea
>>546012152This but only 2B
>>546015617>My main is beatrix btwDid I guess right?>>546015493>22m counter hit>full combo into sba>block it>play a 50/50 dp minigame>Somehow this is less insufferableAlso>Soriz>NerfYou're the crazy one.
>>545983701>filenamekek
>>546015954>Somehow this is less insufferable.............Do you have any fucking idea what the other characters you mentioned? What kind of brain damage made you find Metera, Vaseraga (assuming you're not privileged enough) or FUCKING LOWAIN more enjoyable than fucking Beatrix?>SorizOk, retarded reply but you still passed the test. I can keep replying to you.
>>546015040Yes? What exactly about her mindbreaks you so hard? She's somewhat better than the other shotos, but not amazingly so. Launch Beatrix was unbearable, but she is nothing overly special now.
>>546015954>My main is beatrix btwNot even close, I can't remember a single time I've fought Lowain, Metera or Cag and had fun, hell EU probably died because everyone at the higher ranks and tournament play mains Lowain.
Playing against Cagliostro is worse than playing against 2B because not only do you get mocked by every single attack he does but you have to deal with the fact that the smug tranny playing this overtuned autopilot character think xe's actually good at the game. With 2B players you kinda know they are either lobotomized retards or just poor spics who will probably be homeless soon so it's like whatever, let them have their participation trophy
>22m counterhitI feel like people just randomly complain about neutral skips because it's like their moral code to do so without any sort of coherence or logic behind it besides thatnigger stop pressing retarded shit on neutral and maybe DLN won't scam you out of your gemmies
>just don’t press any pokes, especially not any low profilable mids, and let my character do their advancing stagger pressure on you there is no reason to discuss rising with beatrix players
>>546016730For me it's the Caggots that sit at full screen behind two traps chucking rocks whenever they get a life lead.>>546016925NO, WE'RE HAVING MELTIES RIGHT NOW
>>546017051NIGGER FAGGOT THE CHARACTER HAS A FUCKING NEUTRAL SKIP DONT PRESS UNSAFE RETARDED SHIT RANDOMLY IF YOU DONT WANT THE OPPONENT TO RANDOMLY GET YOU WITH THEIR NEUTRAL SKIPWHY ARENT YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT SIX RANDOMLY RAPING YOU WITH HIS NEUTRAL SKIPI DONT EVEN FUCKING PLAY BEATRIX BUT I RAPE THEM BECAUSE EVERY BEATRIX PLAYER IS A RETARDED NIGGER THAT IS ENABLED BY FUCKING RETARDS LIKE YOU EATING THEIR RANDOM RIDING FREES
CAGLIOSTRO REQUIRES PRACTICE AND EXECUTION FUCKFACES
>>546016753spot on. almost every time I get hit by 22m, I don't feel like I got scammed, I feel retarded because it only happened due to me acting like a retard in neutral. never touched beatrix outside of training mode and don't care about her as a character so I have no reason to defend her in particular, by the way
WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING
>>546016321>VasHis Cgrab is reactable.His ult fireball is reactable with spot dodge.Spot dodge stomp and grab.After H battalion of fear nerfs spot dodging means he can't skip nootch with it anymoreAt 50 meter switch to staggered lights, you can react to jump ult reversal and won't get caught by 214U.Game.>MeteraWalk and block.Fuzzy block the butterfly into 5U high/low mix.Stagger your lights, bait the bc and dp.Game.This strat auto wins you against every metera that isn't an EU tourney sweat.>LowainSBA is reactable.Lab SSBA setups and stay clear of his unblockable BS.Lab his bros crossup mix.Wait for him to do something stupid (they will) then kill him.Game. >>546015617>CagInstall hitbox modFind out f.h can be whiff punishedFind out j22h has no hitboxWalk up to the edge of the trap and wait for a window to 2l, the recovery is so short that 99% of cags can't punish you for removing traps with 2l on reactionFuzzy 5l stops both throwbait and overheadGame>>546016669Euros are just cucks who refuse to learn matchups.>>546016753>ohmygawd lol just don't play the game hahaYou main Beatrix.
>>546017284So what you’re saying is you don’t get how a fast, low profile move that gives good combos on counterhit forcing completely passive or low commit play is strong. This isn’t even considering characters who have bad lows. This is what I mean, Beatrix players were in special classes in school.
>>546017623Spot dodge stomp and grab him out of it*React to ult reversal with jump*
>>546016925I concur.
>>546017623>all of this shit is reactable>complains about Bea's 22M which somehow isn't reactable
>>546017284>Seox>YELLOW AND BLUE HAAAAAAAAANDHas a stupidly fucking long startup. Even a 100 year old man can spot dodged them with a 100% success rate.
>>546017623Oh, you're just trolling. Well done. You got me.>>546017718It's strong but it's not the fucking antichrist on Earth you fucking S+ fake Masters want it to be.
>BeatrixBlock low.Fuzzy mash the command grab.React to Thunderbird.Wait for her to do something stupid (they will) then kill them.Game.
>546018091I'm not shitposting you fucking nier tranny. Don't you see how fucking insufferable a full converting unreactable low profiling meterless, cooldownless half-screen range move that is only -4 on block fucking aids?
>>546011165Delete her from the fame and we'll leave her alone
>nierimmediately disregarded your post and beat the fuck out of my nier plushie
>>546017623M Riding Free has a 28f startup and travels a long distance before hitting you. It's easily more "reactable" than all the shit you listed. Especially since Beatrix mains are generally tards, so you can see it coming a mile away.
>>546015456>And it does notIt frequently does, especially when you consider the absurd damage and insanely long cutscenes of modern fighters.>Should combos then always be 1 hit and do the full regular damage of a combo? Ridiculous position.No, there should be a portion to hitconfirm into the right move or moves so that you can't just throw out random pokes and get a full reward. Ideally I think a combo is around 3-6 hits. Initial hit confirm, additional optional few hits you have to select so that you have to adjust based on spacing to make the combo work instead of always autopiloting the same string and then an ender of your choice to prioritize what you want (ie. oki, damage, corner carry etc.) That's enough for a deep and interesting combo system without the autism and boredom of comboslop games.>At the end of it, if combos are not interesting to you at all, then you shouldn't play fighting games. At the end of it, if combos are the most interesting part to you, you should just play an instrument or rhythm games. Combos aren't actively offputting, but they are the least interesting part of fighters to me, and they are far too long in most modern games.>In the end, it is more interesting to do longer combos, to chain more attacks together than lessNo its not. Complexity and depth are not synonyms. > And if you want shorter combos, they still will do similar damage, so just don't be a bitch who gets uncomfortable when an opponent combos you for 8 seconds instead of 6.How is waiting for 6 seconds instead of 8 anything but an objective improvement?
>>546018408You're too broke to have a Nier plush, you might be able to afford Anila or Makura, don't know why but they're (comparatively) cheap at 60$
>>546017284>I DONT EVEN FUCKING PLAY BEATRIX BUT I RAPE THEM BECAUSE EVERY BEATRIX PLAYER IS A RETARDED NIGGERHonestly this should just be the end of the discussion regarding Bea. You don't even have to talk about the character herself.All of her players are god awful. Yes even GM Beas.Unless you are fighting Space or Gamera in top 8 of a major, if you ever complain about losing to Bea you are just self reporting, simple as that.
Him defending Lowain should be a clear signal that he's trolling, stop replying to him. Not even his mains defend him anymore.
>>546018091>>546018221>>546018501Name me one fucking character in this game that is able to threaten you simply by downbacking a third of the screen away and doing nothing.>AM I GONNA SLIDE AM I AM I HAHA LOOK AT ME DOWNBACKING HEHE RESPECT MEEEEEInSufferAble.
combos are supposed to be cool for me and not the opponent, problem is rising combos are not cool for me
>>546018091>S+ fake Masterthats me
>>546018686>All her players are god awful>Yet they somehow manage to get GMAre you even reading what you type before you hit post
>>546018686TRVKE
>>546018693Most characters with low 66Ms.
>>546018693Wilnas, Cagliostro, Metera, Ferry, Lowain, Eustace and Meg just to name a few.
>>546018693I honestly believe that you are baiting, but on the off chance that you aren't: who is your main?
>>546018771do you ever get sad looking at grass being so dead and dried to a crisp?
>>546018956>Comparing a dash sweep to 22m in range>66m are punishable if spaced badly, unlike 22m which is always -4 and comes with a 50/50 dp minigame attached to themThis is what a low effort shitposter actually looks like.
>>546018875>another self-reporting postLMAOOO
>>546019092Vikala
>>54601913566Ms are only punishable when spaced badly which requires user error, while 22M is always punishable by spotdodging or simply stuffing it, so this is really starting to sound like a skill issue.
>>546019135Don't block, then? Stuff it. If you find moves with far shorter startups reactable, that should not be a problem for you.
>>546019131that requires not being sad before looking at the grass
>>546019092Cag and Belial. And I'm not baiting. I actually fucking hate beatrix that much. I'm serious, fuck this character. I fight all the other 'frauds' on the list and only bea pisses me off like nothing else.To save us time let me answer your future responses in advance.>Why do you hate beaPIECE OF SHIT GOES UNDER F.H, BELIAL ULT GOETIA AT ANY TIME AND PUTS ME IN THE CORNER WITH HER KUSO PRESSURE AND I HAVE TO GUESS FOR GAMENext.>LOL BELIAL PLAYER OPINION FUCKING DISCARDEDSHUT UP FAGGOTS. I ONLY TOOK HIM TO MASTERS BECAUSE YOU KEPT ACCUSING ME OF FRAUDING ON CAG GIMMICKSWELL NOW I CAN PLAY A LE HONEST SHOTO AND WIN WITH FUNDIES AS WELL SO WHAT NOW>>546019068None of them have a move that hits both low and half the screen (22U and 22M). Even lowain's deranged ult wheel is mid. Same for metera ult arrow.Cag sweep is her further reaching low abare option and it doesn't even come close to Sieg/Zeta sweeps. Comparing it to 22m is insanity.
>>546019316>Spot dodge>StuffSo how do I do that if I'm in recovery frames for... oh I don't know...LITERALLY DOING ANYTHING BUT HOLD DOWNBACK AND WAIT WHICH THEN HAS HER SLOPPING ALL OVER ME WITH 66L PRESSUREOH LOOK AT ME 66L INTO 66L ARE YOU DELAY TECHING LET ME CHECK WITH MY... LE HECKIN EPIC DELAYED 66L!!!Piece of shit 0 skill character.
>>546019590Ah yes, of course.
please complain about vira.
>>546020247Her pussy and asshole aren't on my face often enough
>>546020247i did but you accused me of being the viraschizo
>>546019983Again how does that differ from any 66M low character? 66M is 8 frames, 22M is like 28. They can literally run at you for 19 frames and it will still be faster than 22M, and they don't have to commit to anything either for those 19 frames.
>>546020247Lumi is still a little piece of shit that fucks with you more than he actually helps. He also doesn't help against zoners.Still a worse Kat, even with the buffs.Install M-DP is a downgrade.Moveset hidden behind a 30 frames command grab.Uhhh....
lovey dovey sex with narmaya while brick commentates
>>546020654
>>545998724>those hit effectsdamn low res hitconfirms must be free, maybe i should switch
>>546020649>just ignore the toxic f.l, f.m, 2m, c.h, 2u along with her toxic movement speed>and the obscene screen presence lumi establishes the second its out>enjoy pretending your main is a strugglebus despite non-stop buffs patch after patchViggers are the new focks life shitters
>>546020845chat, chat? he’s not going to impregnate narmaya is he? I don’t think we can have that in the video game.
>>546020649there is a good argument for vira being better than kat this patch
>>54602062766m is stopped by>projectiles of any sort>an f.m/f.h of any value (i.e not Zeta)>22m blows right past any of theseI will now assume you're shitposting so I'll stop feeding you. Enjoy your last (You).
>>546021374Well my projectile stops 22M so this sounds like a skill issue :^)
>>546021347Lol no, Kat has still the better normals, her parry has so many advantages and scam potential. Lumi can not compete with that. Vira needs her install to catch up in raw power, although sure, that's now easier to access.
Vigger downplay hours go
>>546020430nta so do it anyway. i just want some notes.
>>546021142what he could od instead is-oh yeah you cant dp thatanyway what i was sa-but you can bc that everytime on reactionso what he could have done is tell narmaya he wont impregnate her and then do it anway because its such a mind game you dont really expect it
In the end I bought the Djeeta plush and an Alice from Nikke one
>kat has the better normals ACK
>>546020654another abhorrent brick video
ah hell
>>546022052We can cherrypick all day.
>>546023036Vira's f.m unironically mogs Kat's f.m bwo
>>546023209why didn't you post the hitbox then?
>>546023507Fake range.I mean, it's still a fantastic fM. But Kat definitely out-pokes her
>>546023541
>>546023507>Similar range >But the secret is-Notice how much more disjointed it is compared to Kats. It's one of her most toxic normals that no one talks about in my opinion. Everyone hyperfocuses on her c.h and f.l (and for good reason) but f.m is right up there in kuso as well.
vikala f.m is better than both
Desu... we did it... one thousand Desudollars...
>>546023639Look at the disjoint bwoCompare it to kat's f.mUse eyeballsEyeballsYou own them rightTwo of them?
the chimps are still screeching
Ya'll still play this dead game?
>>546023639Vira's noseless big-mouthed far away model is so fucking sexual
>>546024039You forgot the free pit-shot.
shooting into vira's pits...
>>546005719
>>546018632>without the autism and boredom of comboslop games.If you discard the value of combos and what they bring to the table with such words as "boredom", "autism" and "comboslop"...lol Makes me want to discard your whole post not going to lie, just like you discarded my evidence of you being a heavily opinionated moron, since your so precious World Warrior example is objectively one of the most broken and high damage games out there.>but an objective improvement?Maybe an improvement to you, but not an objective. You see combos as only cutscenes there is not much room for a proper discussion. Like I said in a previous post, your position has a simple and efficient answer.>just don't be a bitch
>>546020247I refuse to play her even though I know she'd be the only character I actually enjoy.
Yuel players are the biggest crybabies in this game.>Reliant on calloutsIn what world is flip, f.M, 22X, or anything in her kit reliant on callouts?>Awkward corner defenseShe has two meterless reversals.>b-but they are committal!And whose reversal isn't?>A test of patience>Many characters can build resources for free from a distance, with Yuel being uniquely unable to punish them for this.??????
>more f.M>anti-air with c.H>more lumi (?)thanks, bros.
>>546013295we really need an ai solution to this problem. burning billions of dollars of energy at nvidias underground antarctic processing cluster just to turn flesh fangs into pearly whites.
>>546024712It's an Arcsys game, you have to make random nothingshit up to fill out the cons section on nearly any character's dustloop
Kat has better RPS kuso and BC baiting with 5U, better confirms too with 236U and 214H.Vira has marginally better normals, much better throwbaits, pressure, mobility and damage but worst confirms. 236H doesn't confirm from max distance and 214H gives you nothing after outside of install. But she doesn't care about that because lumi is so strong her entire gameplan boils down to>Get a KD>Pop lumi>Guess right or die>Loop Vira is lowkey border top 10 same as Kat. The only difference is Vira is constantly downplayed by agenda pushers.Don't (You) me. I won't reply.
>Border top 10Just say top 5You know you want to
>>546024914I also love taking a dick up my ass
>>546024628Why do you keep bringing up damage in regards to World Warrior when it has literally nothing to do with a conversation about combo length? Damage only matters in regards to combo length by how many combos you do per round on average, that is to say, if the game is a 2-toucher and the combos take over 10 seconds, you are going to spend most of the game either comboing or getting comboed. I don't like or defend World Warrior, I only bring it up to point that the genre started with very short combos so games like that are extremely viable and thus it seems odd that every modern fighter franchise devolves into comboslop and keeps adding ways to make combos longer and longer.>You see combos as only cutscenes there is not much room for a proper discussionI already underlined all the actually interesting parts of a combo in my post. The problem here is that all those decisions are made only by one of the players that is playing while the other passively observes, which is an anathema to a multiplayer game.Your position too has a simple and efficient answer.>Just play rhythm games
>>546024914thanks, brick
The truth is that Top 15 and Top 10 in this game have barely any difference between them. It's only when you get into top 5 do you start seeing massive power gaps.That's the thing most people don't get when they discuss Top 10. Top 15 is basically the same thing. I don't think anyone actually thinks a top 15 Sandalphon is that much weaker than a top 10 Kat for instance.You know the drill.Don't (You) me. I won't reply.
>>546025583>>546020649>>546020112>>546019590luv these characters
>>546024712she IS a yomi character thoughbeither DP is extra punishable howeverand yet, she actually can't do anything midscreenevery character in the video game has weaknesses besides sandalphoncataloging your characters weaknesses for a writeup is not complaining about the character it's information for new playersmore people cry about yuel players than yuel players cry about their character
>>546026005>every character in the video game has weaknesses besides sandalphonMovement speed.>But WindWithout gutting his hp for it.
>>546026209his movement speed is dead average this is not a weakness
ah funny that gran is complaining back in the day but now he's an obnoxious top tier both regular and ex version but we have to be hush hush about it cause he's le protagonist f2p character uguu
reinstalling was a complete waste of time
>>546026536its all mids and 2u
>>546026296>dead averageSo you're admitting its a disadvantage in todays meta of>Lowain backdash>Metera dash/hop/backwalk>Beatrix dash>Grimnir DBZFightersZ movement>And the other kuso top tiers who don't even need to use movement to interact and win the game (Cag, Vas, Ferry etc)?You know this term called inflation?Average yesterday is garbage today.
>>546026005>she IS a yomi character thoughbeitlmao
cag is a high tier
>>546026536Results? No data points to him being anything other than vaguely mid/high tier like most of the characters.
>>546026005She's not a "yomi" character when not a single part of her pressure has inherent risk, even her overhead is just -5 spaced
cag is bottom 30
cag is a bottom
>>546027992>Yool has no riskChat bring up the recovery frames on her parryChat don't let them know that you can chase down and 66l her backflipChat don't let them know you can U dp her stance setupsChat don't let them know you can dp her guren and flips on reactionChatChat
>>546026005None of the shotos have weaknesses All of them have good normals, good middle screen, good corner damage, good walking speed, meterless reversal and a projectile
>>546028432Explain Ex Djeeta then
>>546028432>good walking speedSiegfried isn't a shoto?
>>546028665using a 2handed sword automatically disqualifies you from shotohood
>>546028665>Kuso 66l>Kuso dash speedTry harder Siegshitter.
fox trannies once again prove to be the worst posters in these threads
>>546028821His dash speed is also below average though... And his 66L isn't particularly notable...>>546028806He's not a swordsman though, he's a kickboxer.
So what is Metera's weaknessDon't say no dpAnd don't say anal
>>546028293>Chat bring up the recovery frames on her parryIt's the same as any other parry>Chat don't let them know that you can chase down and 66l her backflipIt's a callout>Chat don't let them know you can U dp her stance setupslol, lmao>Chat don't let them know you can dp her guren and flips on reactionCharacter... has counterplay? Using meter against a meterless move she can just keep doing??? My brain is exploding right now
The fox life is ___________
>>546028665Nyo, he feels too different to play
>>546029006Shotas.
>>546029083erotic
>>546028293>Chat don't let them know you can U dp her stance setupsisn't the entire problem with her stance 2m that it beats u.dps?
>>546029081She has garbage corner carry so really it's your fault if you somehow find yourself in the corner to be memed on.
>>546029346>Stance 2m beating U dps is a problem nowChat don't show him the bluesloppa refund combos that grant HKD into autotimed safejumps that 80% of the cast uses these days
>>546028432they all actually do pretty bad against zoners because their gameplan doesn't work when their neutral doesn't shit on the opponent'sfuckin everything does bad against zoners right now though>>546029449>garbage corner carrynot postpatcheveryone complains too much about yuel but she does actually have some great carry now that she can do c.H 22H
>>546029449She has better corner carry that a lot of other characters yuelshitter And before you say>But you have to use meterSo do most characters except the truly fraudulent ones like Bea and Seox
Don't (You) me, I won't reply.
>>546029637those don't give 50/50s, retard fox
>>546029748Do you get notifications when people reply to you?
>>546029748>>546029748>>546029748
>>546029748
>>546030000kekaroo and its derivatives are the most vile garbage I've ever experienced
>>546029920>>546029931>>546030000I SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED THE OPPOSITE OF THIS
I'm gonna chimp out
>>5460290062h is air blockableno unrollable projectiles15000 health
>>546029731>Rawdogging 50 meter with no refundThis is not a serious reply.>>546029814>50/50Autotimed throwbaits that leave you plus ob is essentially the same thing And unlike my overhead you don't die for itAnd unlike my overhead they give you actual rewardAnd unlike theUnlike theYou know nothing.
>>546029721>Shoto>Bad against zonersBro your riding free?
Didn't know we had a serious Yuel downplayer here. I'm learning something new every day.
>>546030294i need a new ape escape
Thoughts on the narrative?
>>546030402>no unrollable projectilesYou can roll the low shots? News to me.
>>546030924It's weird, right?You'd think that would be their entire purpose but no, you can roll them.
>>546030621>Yuel is a 50/50 casino aieee fuck this character eat shit and die>Uhh but my plus ob autotimed throwbait that beats both delay 2l and delay tech is fine though>That or I'll throw you which leads into autotimed safejump which leads into another 50/50 wow could have guessed!?This is why no one takes Yuel hate seriously. Because one side of her coinflip leads to no reward and is suicide the when it gets blocked.
>>546030924I don't think you can roll low ult arrow
>>546030984they're just going to point at the spacing where td.5M is safe and ignore how td.2M doesn't do anything at that range
>>546030702RAIDEN, DID YOU SERIOUSLY THINK WE WOULD LET YOU PLACE YUEL ANYWHERE BUT THE BOTTOM?
>>546031114Not to mention her damage is piss low as well. She finally gets one functional normal in her 2m and all of a sudden everyone is losing their damned minds.
>>546018686>All of her players are god awfulEven pink niia?
>>546025759>Why do you keep bringing up damage in regards to World Warrior when it has literally nothing to do with a conversation about combo length?Because the inherent nature of combos is to do damage, obviously. You can't talk without taking damage into account. And because you brought up World Warrior and combo length in the first place here >>546000489>I only bring it up to point that the genre started with very short combosDid you know combos in that game started out as a bug? You weren't supposed to cancel out thing into other things. Pretty dumb to bring up that "the genre started out with short combos" AS IF devs did intended to create the feature them in the first place.>The problem here is that all those decisions are made only by one of the players that is playing while the other passively observesThat is not the problem. That is most of how fighting games are. I recommend Divekick or Footsies for you. Seems like the perfect games, which you won't play despite the complaints.>Your position too has a simple and efficient answer.>>Just play rhythm gamesNope, I'm fine with both long and short combos. I played DBFZ and Vanilla Versus. I like fighting games. I am not dumb enough to not like short or "long" (which you still did not define) combos because that's the part of liking fighting games.The more you keep saying comboslop the more retarded you seem btw.One more question, do you think Rising is and I quote >>546018632 a combo system with "autism" and "boredom" and is a "comboslop" game?
>>546031960pink nia is a genuine scumbag
>>546031607nah you're on drugs, her damage really isn't low anymore. any time you can get a c.H midscreen she does loads of damage and that's not THAT hard
>>546032136What did the pink one ever do to you
>>546032640abandoned the djeeta
>>546023962It's more disjointed but has less range than Kat's f.M
>>546032178>any time you can get a c.H midscreen>Basically a dp punish>Where everyone else would do 1 bajillion damage as well in the same situationI'm talking about confirms and frametraps anon, ya know, the most realistic scenarios?
>>546032640fight him after getting hyped up for months on /gbvsg/I rape himhe You Are Great!s me and immediately leavesthen spends genuinely 4 hours beating up a S+ gran anonlike, stinky was an ironic shark, but pink nia is the real deal
>>546032854Onee-sama's long poke...
>>546032881>I rape him so he refuses to rematchhe has loss streaks against gms and still keeps playing them on his profileeither he didn't like youor it was the rbf
>>546032865you aren't a yuel player if you think c.H isn't happening in frametrap situations you're a falseflagging faggot
>>546033068Why is there a hag in this image?
>>546032881he did this to me but said it was the ping.
Am I about to watch 52 minutes of my wife being a whore?Of course I am. I love my whore wife.https://youtu.be/qFaxZkrIu4w
>>546033235ohI guess it was the rbf...
>>546033381Shut your whore mouth!
>>546033343The only time you get c.h on yuel on a frametrap is c.l, 22m(not happening) and 22h(only 1 guess chance and choosing to c.h instead of staggering more lights kills your offense)Her most common frametraps are after a 66l which is either 2m or f.m/f.h if she decides to play the spacing gameYou are the faggot who nitpicks the rare situations over the more common ones
>>546033235>>546033514A ping purist is worse than a shark
>>546033832Didn't Tako block some chink live on stream because he got hit by raging strike at 135ms or some shitJappa god btw
>>546034067no he blocked him because he lost(to a chinaman no less). he blamed rbf/ping but it was like 110 ping 1rbf. then he played a bunch of jappas with 2-3 rbf with no issue.
>stuck at work>won't be able to play tonight because of doctor’s appointment in the early morninggrub for this feeling?
>>546032854Its the same fucking move
>>546032854I kinda want to start learning Kat and maining her for the PURE NEUCH AND FOOTSIES feel but I just know that despite her godlike buttons I will just get slopped to death by a character that doesn't need to interact with her buttons.Still feel like doing it though.
>>546032116>You can't talk without taking damage into account.You can though. Combo length, whether it be measured in actions or in seconds, has no connection to damage. You can have short combos with massive damage, you can have short combos with low damage, you can have long combos with massive damage or you can have long combos with low damage. The damage threshold of a game is in no way tied to how long the combos are.>Did you know combos in that game started out as a bug? You weren't supposed to cancel out thing into other things. Pretty dumb to bring up that "the genre started out with short combos" AS IF devs did intended to create the feature them in the first place.It's not dumb though. Dev intention features very little into it, and as soon as we get into revisions of SF2 they are very much intentional part of the game. My point, and the only point I bring up World Warrior, is to point out that fighting game with tiny combo length by today's standards was the one that started it all and is still one of the most popular fighting games of all time.>That is not the problem. That is most of how fighting games are.It's a flaw in most fighting games then. Just because something is an entrenched part of the genre doesn't mean it's above criticism. Delay netcode is also how most fighters used to be, would you also say that's not a problem and that delay netcode is just fine and using rollback is merely a preference?>because that's the part of liking fighting games.You do understand that people can like parts of a game without liking some other parts? You don't have to like the entire package. You can like a game while admitting it's flaws. Not doing so is blind fanboyism. It's part of the reason I actually like using the word slop, because pigs will eat whatever slop you put in front of them without question, it's a very apt descriptor.
>>546034370Play Percival if you want pure neuch and footsies with literally nothing else
>>546034370I couldn't play Kat because she's so boring. Totally sauceless moveset and ice is the most boring element.
I ain’t reading all that shit
Cog sniffs
>>546034193I find nip/asian players to be extremely anal when it comes to rbf/ping in this game. It's not even a gbvs specific thing, even in dix when I watch mago(or was it Daigo? It was some fugging jappa sf gawd that had go in their name) stream there were times when he would one and done someone because of ping reasons.Maybe pinky was larping seanig/rice field gamer culture idk
>>546034612size comparison with cog
>>546034928?????Size of what?
>>546032116And to answer the last question:>do you think Rising is a combo system with "autism" and "boredom" and is a "comboslop" game?It doesn't have much autism in the combo system since it's so simple and there isn't much in the way of combo variance. It absolutely fills the boredom aspect as the combos go for way too long for how simple they are, there is nothing interesting happening and no chance of a dropped combo. I wouldn't call it comboslop either, I would reserve comboslop term for games like BB, DBFZ or 2xKO where almost any and every hit confirms into at least 10 second combo, often 20 or even 30 seconds. Rising does at least have some shorter combos with some characters midscreen and going into 20 second midscreen combos is usually resource-reliant.I see no value in forcing everyone learn a very easy 20 hit combo for example when everything past the initial hit confirm and the ender is meaningless rote repetition with no brain activity on either side.I did specify that once you add combo-breaker mechanics combos become far more interesting, which is why Killer Instinct has the best combo system ever made. If devs are deadset on keeping long combos they should look towards it on how to keep up interactivity in the game.
>>546034370Anon, you force other opponents to interact with your buttons.If they do bullshit, the parry.
>>546034928im imagining right now
>>546034994you know exactly what
Pinky and StinkySitting on a tree
Futa with or without balls
>>546034418>You can though.Nope. For the game to have combos that and I quote "occupy as short of a time as possible", you need considering how much damage you individual attacks need to be doing. Otherwise you make a scumfest like SF2. >My point, and the only point I bring up World Warrior, is to point out that fighting game with tiny combo length by today's standards was the one that started it all and is still one of the most popular fighting games of all time.Yeah, I remember you brought up the game when you said it's similar to Rising: "so no different than Rising except that you spend far less time twiddling your thumbs." and I proved that it's much more of a scumfest than Rising with a video.>It's a flaw in most fighting games then.About as much of a flaw as only one person controlling the ball at a time in some sport games is a flaw in those games.>You do understand that people can like parts of a game without liking some other parts?Correct, except when it comes to fundamental part of the games, like combos.>>546035160When was the last time you played Killer instinct or SF2 in fightcade?
>>546030198What made Ferry snap and fweh-k up the lobby?
>>546036013>ghost factory? I'LL SHOW YOU A GHOST FACTORY
>>546021673>Kat has still the better normalsthis is grasping at straws
i have too many tabs open
>>546037358Cute helmets.
>>546020247she should've fucked Kat on screen
>>546036037
>>546028432>All of them have good normals, good middle screen, good corner damage, good walking speed, meterless reversal and a projectilewhat makes character good in this game is broken U skills, broken 66L game, unfair offense and having the ability to play around 66L with little risk. Aside from reversals, the strong points of shotos aren't high on the totem pole of what makes chars strong
>>546038918I don't know what to think of this character...
>>546039085
Here's your Monkey, bro
>>546040247I will now fuck monkeys while Brick reacts to it
>>546039534Sex
>I could have done 623M~X in the 214U -> fH -> midscreen combo all this time, instead of 623H~XFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCKYeah okay, it's 200 more damage.
>>546040748why would you ever do that? the 623h cooldown is halfway done after
>>546034370>I just know that despite her godlike buttons I will just get slopped to death by a character that doesn't need to interact with her buttons.you will but winning with her still feels very satisfying
>>546040878Eh, edge case, but If I do 623M~U and get a Mari shot right afterwards, I can follow up with another 623M~X. Or H. Or U (without paying the damage penalty on cooldown moves).Yeah, if I'd just want to cash out for damage, might do 623H~H.
>>546040247hymmmmmmmm.........No!
Last evo, burgers
>>546034269this keeps happening to me and i hate it.>>546034734the lance? farmed tako like 3 games in a row and he one and doned and blocked him citing ping. then tako fought even laggier japanese players with visible rbf stutter and didn't say anything. think he was just bitchmade in this moment. i want to say the chinese lance wasnt even above 100 ping.
>>546038203You say that but a shoto is top 3, arguably top 2.
Last burger, EVOIt's kebabs from now
>>546035256>aliza shoes beneath line>cags big boots notholy draph discrimination
>>546042080bea is rushdown not a shoto
>>546042043What's the connection like between east coast and SEA these daysIs it even remotely playable
>>546042297pretty sure he was trying to account for the heels height
>>546042507how do we know cag isn't wearing platform boots... this is a manlet conspiracy.
>>546042430silky smooth 17 fps @ 720p
>>546042739>300>7Yeah I can see why pinky noped the fuck out.
>>546042665female draphs have already accepted all their height weight to their fat tits
>>546042430i can't play stinky at all but some of the other sea players i tried were less than 200. what I really don't get it how I have 150 or less to some japanese players.
>>546042967Japan has better internet infra than most of Asia barring Korea.
>>546042080Zooey is not a shoto
>>546043129my ping to japan being lower than some euros is making me think the globe isn't real bros.
>>546042739Kino
Reminder that Zoi got results now
>Fireball>Reversal>Advancing specialLowain is a shoto.
>>546038203The most important thing is doing fraud offense that ignores BC. Metera, Grimnir, Cag, Lowain, 2B, Kat, Bea, etc. all fill that function while none of the lower tier characters do. That's the real luxury low tiers like Vikala, Anila and Yuel don't have.
>>546043621What fraud offence does bea and kat have
>>546043443ISSA TAWP TIIA
>>546043332we should build mega highways across the ocean with rest stops
>>546043443I didn't know Destin still played.
>>546043701Command grab and 5U cancels off all pokes. Spaced far normals are also safe but that's universal
>>546043443Why do we never see bea in a top 8 outside of that one freak run by koji in evo
>>546043990>5U cancels off all pokesa move that makes kat lose her turn if fraud offense?
>>5460444122B moves make her lose her turn too :^)
https://twitter.com/shuaboo/status/1987934375141667000who was it?
who the fuck is
>>546045184It was just pee.Lame.
>>546045437
>>546035913Are you autistic by any chance? Not trying to insult you, but you seem to be genuinely unable to understand what an example is. When I say "no different than Rising except that you spend far less time twiddling your thumbs.", I am obviously referring to the actual combo itself doing roughly the same amount of damage, not to the games as a whole, because this entire conversation is about combo length in the abstract, not about comparing Rising to SF2. I brought up SF2 as an example of an extremely succesful game with a reasonable combo length, and you started sperging out about things in SF2 that are not related to combos. It's bizarre.>Correct, except when it comes to fundamental part of the games, like combos.Combos aren't a fundamental part of fighting games though, there are several fighters without them, you even named a few yourself. They are no different from motion inputs or stages that end in a wall on either side. A common feature, but not a fundamental one.>When was the last time you played Killer instinct or SF2 in fightcade? I don't like SF2 and I think Rising is a far more enjoyable game. I have only ever played SF2 once, and that was in a Japanese arcade bar as a lark just so I could say I've done it. It's filled with things I don't like in fighters. I just think it does one particular thing (combo length) better than modern fighters. I don't understand where you got this bizarre notion that I like it or want to play it, which led to my conclusion that perhaps I am talking to someone who might struggle with normal human communication.I do like Killer Instinct and play it occasionally but finding decent connections is nearly impossible so I don't bother most of the time. But again, this convo is about discussing combo length, not trying to find a game for me to play. I like Rising despite it's numerous flaws, one of which is excessive combo length in both time and actions.
>>546044045they will not reply to this.
>>546044045>Why don't we see this character in top 8 except for the time that we didGee I dunno.
>>546046292Why doesn't she make top 8s as frequently as Cag, Lowain and Metera then?
>>546046742what are those square things next to their names?
>>546043621>2BWHY are you BCing her at a range where it can whiff? her 5L sucks so she cant even do regular BC safe pressure. 2B is uniquely weak to BC cause she ALWAYS gets her shit CH'd
>>546046992What is 5U/6U?What is 22L?And she's the only character that can do BC safe autocombos.
>>546046742This sum kinda Nier indoctrination program?
>>546046076>I am obviously referring to the actual combo itself doing roughly the same amount of damageYeah, no shit? That's exactly what I disproved in your face. Feel fucking free to prove it wrong by posting a roundstart jump-in that is a god damn touch of death. Are you actually this retarded.>Combos aren't a fundamental part of fighting games thoughThey sure are. I named 2 games Footsies and Divekick out of hundreds of fighters that came out since SF2. Exceptions do not negate the rule. You are actually retarded. I can teach you how to do combos, my man don't worry. >I don't like SF2kek
66L
>>546048042
>>546046830
>Enter the lobby>Instead of pink squares it's all red up arrows
>Enter the lobby>It’s all green diamonds despite me losing like 6/10 games
>>546047609How would you feel if you did not have breakfast this morning?
>>546049523>Combos aren't a fundamental part of fighting gamesMain?
How do I play Anila as obnoxiously as possible without having to actually present a modicum of skill?
>>5460496622B
>>546049712The same way you play Vira.You mash 5l like a monkey.
>>546049712TOTSUGEKI
>>546049816Ok I feel like I'm on the right track mashing 2L and 5L>>546049839Isn't that shit extremely minus?
>this is a gm yuelexplain
>enter the wombly>cum after one stroke
EX onion for season 3
>>546049926>this thing has 4.6k gems and i have 300why do i even bother man
>>546049926noooooo let untoten superjump jL you monster!!!!!!
>>546050408That means he’s doing something right that you’re not
>>546051185yeah he's playing a fraud and I'm not
>>546050408djeetacel...
>playing a suffering character (yuel) is now a fraud for some reason???
>suffering character
>>546050073Believe
>>546051517>for some reason6f 2M
>Try to play neutral>lose>mash safe blue moves and 66L>instantly win moreVERY cool video game that should totally be taken seriously because it involves a lot of """"skill""""
>>546052613Just win Paragon or TNS if it takes no skill?
At what rank do people realize Ultimate Flock to the Future is punishable on block?
>>546052843Gold Master
>>546052994>tfw this is fucking truelmaoEven at GM you still get to knowledge check people, fucking crazy. No one good plays this game (myself included because I shouldn't be GM).
>>546049923>Isn't that shit extremely minus?we don't talk about that anymore
>>546052843-6 isnt real
>>546052843at S++ they look up the framedata on dustloop. at 200 crystals master they realize it's unpunishable despite the framedata.
>>546049923>Isn't that shit extremely minus?It has massive pushback and becomes less minus when spaced properly. You can in perfect conditions make it -1 on block, and even if it's -5 or -6 the opponent will be way too far out to punish it. It's only punishable when used too close
>>546049923>Isn't that shit extremely minus?
>>546055534Just for visual clarity, a plinked 66H at roundstart distance is -6 and barely enough reach for Anila's own f.L to punish, a few frames of walking back will make it outright unpunishable. Not to mention some characters with less privileged f.Ls will press a fast medium instead and fail to punish due to the -6
my soul yearns for restful shelter in this peace and quiet
>>546055818
TOTSUGE-SHEEP
>>546052578>Clash level 1
>>546056216clash levels are merely a suggestion.
>>546049926The fox brain is __________.
>>546052837They don't respect my pronouns (he/him which corresponds to my birth gender).
>zooey>siegranked is miserable right now
>>546056523Beyond our understanding.
>siegoh no, hes gonna get you with c.L to no full conversion oh no silver masteroh no
>>546057283Stop downplaying, Sieg can also hit you with 66L into c.L into nothing or 2U into nothing.
Tell me what the counterplay to Bubz charging this move fullscreen is if you don't have a fast U projectile, and then give me one good reason why I shouldn't fucking kill myself
Imagine complaining about Sieg when beashit exists
>>546058142
>>546058142>CounterplayHere.Now pick your top tier and shut the fuck up.
>>545934108Until that nigga linked a clip of Wilnas' doing this ''oh OH OOHHH'' I thought he meant other sound from his SSBA
>>546058142Throw a blue grenade at him.
>imagine complaining about Western Gorilla when Eastern Gorilla exists
I was just saying hi sheepy
>>546058407>I thought he meant other sound from his SSBAhe wasnt?
>>546058142Bubz is at the same time bullshit and at the same time honest and is not viable in this meta
Big meaty on the right.
>>545934108Wilnas killed the Vas
HOLY SHIT DS4 IS DOG SHITSECRET ROOM UP
>>546059162password?
>>545972050this nigga draws chubby girls like no other
>>546058525some time i will get around to posting what i thought it was x what it was
>>545999373>/melty/ finally diedholy shit... feels kind of bad
>>545977000>>545977353has anyone made one of these for the NA lobbyor will I have to get my hands dirty
RIP noel anon
>>546059917I'm terrible with figure mode or I would've made one by now
>>546060010the hero of /melty/...
room closed due to chinese controller slowing down anons computer
>>546057283>>546057530that's at least 5% of my health downplaying scumbags
>>546049926certified untoten kino
>>546058142>>546058237I think Bubs should have been a manlet
>>546049926>the fox can't beato za mausu
I bought a brand new Victrix FS pro and upgraded the stick to a golden lever. The buttons are replaced with Tokido ONEFRAME. I have my white glove.I will win the next evo.
>>546059363IsuckDicks
>>546059363Don't do it Anon, that is not really the password, he just wants you to type that...
I need to fucking KILL MYSELF
>>546062921main?
>>546063009I'm not fucking doxxing myself
>>546063009clearly piss color nier
>>546062921I think this every day
>>546064072stinky was GM in the model editor mode back when he was alive
ggs. nice dp losing to thunderbird and ssba trading with m fireball. how do you play vatista on a pad?
Why am I still losing my games I just spent nearly $700 on my new setup
>>546064416Did you enjoy a full Chipotle meal beforehand?
>>546064416you forgot to purchase the gene
>>546064346>how do you play vatista on a pad?you have to look up the layout people recommend cause her normals need to be mapped on the trigger buttons to reliably charge her moves without giving yourself boneitis
Nothing I do gets me fucking anywhere, I play this game sometimes 4+ hours per day and I still can't rank up, I've lost 125 points today alone and there are only 21 days left in the season
>>546065080it will work out
>>546065080it wont work out but you should keep struggling.
>>546065676too fat
>>546065080gem count?
>>546065676NEED Anila cosplay slampig gf...
>>546065676It's not fucking going toNo amount of effort has unfucked my life and I can feel the walls calcifying around me and becoming more impenetrable as the years of my life slip away, and all I want to take to my grave is a plaque saying "anon was good at fighting games, maybe not competitive but pretty good, won some brackets" and I can't even get that
Why don't you dumbasses just buy his book if you really want to improve so much
>>546064945
>>546066304
>>546066429
>>546065959Started at 825 and dropped below 675
>>546066092I am gonna kill myself in about 5 months so I somewhat know how you feel. Cant get GM. Cant get a Golden Golshi. There is no glory for me in the afterlife at this rate.
>>546066678
>>546066092fix your issues, anon
>>546058142Spotdodge it, you don't gain anything but neither does he. >then give me one good reason why I shouldn't fucking kill myselfBubz players would celebrate, stay alive to spite them.
we should do review sessions sometimesi'd sure need some help too
>>546066874you'll be fine
>>546067475like group therapy sessions?
>>546067804we already do that here
>>546067475>Make a room>Two people play, someone else watches>Get advice from observing party or parties (not opponent)>Repeat as needed>???>Don't profit because the rest of us don't know what we're doing eitherWorth a shot though!>>546067804>>546067905Hello, my name is Anonymous and I'm a scrub.
>>546066982>don't have a car>car prices keep going up>live as frugally as I possibly can, haven't spent money on myself with any kind of expensive purchase since 2021>no good jobs in the area>can't get a job outside the area because I don't have a car>wageslave while slowly building up money on the wages I do have>suddenly get fired and lose my insurance>right as this happens my country's already bottom-class public health insurance gets slashed so I can't go to that>find a new job without insurance and worse pay rates>check car prices>they're STILL climbing five years after COVIDI'm trappedI'm fucking trappedI'm doing so little that I could probably already be called dead, all in the hopes of improving myself long-term, and it just gets fucking worse and worse despite me doing everything as right as I can in the circumstancesI am at the stage of poverty that cannot be escapedThis is the rest of my lifeI will never afford a car, not even a half-decent used oneI can keep myself housed and fed but I can't do anything beyond thatThe best years of my life are already behind me and I have no futureThe only thing, the only thing in the entire world, where I can improve my overall standing is in fighting gamesAnd I can't even fucking do that no matter how hard I try
>>546067804>all the mentally ill niia planet avatars lined up in a row>you are the therapist>are forced to listen to their complaints in the shitty lobby chat which barely works>while you are forced to look at this
>>546068064nothing made me as miserable and angry as group therapy sessions. some people really deserve to be miserable. i wonder if it would have been more tolerable if we were all in vrchat or something instead of a small room in a circle of shitty chairs with poor airflow.
>>546066892>>546068020you guys need a hug
>>546068773Go away Fastiva
https://www.twitch.tv/aaroncurrygame killing characters on the telly
>>546068020at least you're not a hungry child in africa anon, there is still hope. ask for advice from better players in the lobby, i am sure with some help and some drive in implementing the advice you will make it
Posting lamb stew to kill this general
>>546068020>my country's already bottom-class public health insurance gets slashed so I can't go to thatYoru?
>>546068942Please eat your lamb over here;>>546069024>>546069024>>546069024>>546069024
I’ve been playing since launch and I still don’t know how Vaseraga works. It feels like he can just cancel any move into any move and they’re all invincible. I hate this fucking nigger character so much.
