delayed EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>546070354>Latest News/Updates:Celebrating 10 years of Tide with New Content and a New Class:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeaZmDtfPRsDarktide:Hotfix #80 - 1.9.5 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-80-1-9-5-patch-notes/114082Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.7.2https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-7-2/112401>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Helldivers 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Payday 3Back4BloodDeep Rock GalacticEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
I hope whoever is responsible dies a violent death
post yfw after finding out the announcement got delayed
lmao
Hello am Swedish. The 6th class was Hive Ganger, but on seeing lukewarm reception Fatshark pulled the plug on the class and will be starting from scratch. Sister of Battle will be ready in 3 weeks, Fatshark's finest codemonkeys are on the job.
reset the clock i guess.7 days starting now. Oh boy let's get some predictions in chat...
>delay it a week to ensure QUALITY STANDARDS are met and SUFFICIENT HYPE is generated>it finally comes out>it's ganger
Darksissies? Your cope?
Next Week™, bros!We just need to wait.
>>546136560>>546136686>mfw
>>546136686
>>546136752seven more days of shitpost
FUCK THIS FAGGOT SWEDISH EARTH
>>546136686>mfw
IMAGINE if it's something boring like Ganger after this delay
>>546136938CRAG GO BACK TO SS13
>>546136752The announcement will include the the Melta gun, everything will be all right.
>>546137129Why do you think they would need another week to shop up marketing material? Mechanussy and sissies of battle would sell like hotcakes, they don't need marketing.
OOF
>first impression is time delayOrdo Chronos confirmed
>>546136686I am going to hang myself
>>546136686>mfw I already know the class and still am disappointed by swiggers
For a company that loves making a teaser for a teaser when it comes to content why the fuck can't they namedrop the class at least.
>>546137129>autoguns do 25% more damage>stims last 5 seconds longer>pocket sand Fthat will be 20 dollars + VAT + tipstay tuned for new cosmetics coming march 2026!
>>546137129It's so fucking over brosWe were gonna get ganger and now we're gonna get a half baked class we asked for with all of the ganger abilities recycled
>>546137189My Führer... it's a good old pl-ACK
>Sar they shit on ganger we need to render new video with admech
Mein Fuhrer... Your new class... The announcement...
>>546137235The subtext is plain as day.GW found some shit they overlooked or didnt fit into future model plans and they have to delay to fix it.Probably some detail nobody would ever notice.
on a good note, this absolute dogshit of an event is finally over
>>546137284it's november 4th... again
>>546137436>inb4 its supposed to be ganger but they know NO ONE wants that shit so they're reworking the trailer to make it "cooler".They have had fucking weeks to make the trailer cooler. Why are they this fucking retarded?
>Don't delay it in the morning>Don't do it the day before>Do it on the cusp of the fucking reveal when people are nestling into their seats with their warm jammies and snacksThe Swedish mindset is truly beyond any and all comprehension.
Is this mission just genuinely impossible with the hexbound modifier? It seemingly ALWAYS spawns two in this location, with the other one being over the fence after the drop down and looping all the way back around outside, but because of its proximity to the elevator it counts as being ass close so it charges up super fast
>>546137235But why delay the trailer to "make it better", if they showcased the Ganger today we'd be dissapointed and that's it, now we get to be dissapointed AND upset.
Doomposting aside.December 2 is pretty good?
>>546137786they have more than one prepared and most people shitted on ganger so they have to swap it
>>546137754bring a thammer zealot and focus target vet and kill em all
>>546137821If the class is interesting then yeah
>>546137130EAT THE CORN KERNELS OUT OF MY SHIT YOU SWIGGERIM SO MAD IM DUCKPOSTING
>>546137821We already knew the next major update was Dec 2nd and there's no way the class would come later because Fatshark are lazy fucks who need their 2 month new years vacation.
>>546137920>they have more than one preparedGot anything to share with the thread or is it an "It came to me in a dream guessing game?"
>>546137749I wouldn't be surprised if they actually tried to have it release today, but GW beings its usually retarded self said "No." and the whole day has gone into trying to negotiate to releasing the trailer.Like the devs and studio is 100% aware how fucking bad their time management is and how often they delay shit.So one time they try to keep promises, they get fucked over anyway.
>>546137754You should be able to kill DHs in like 10 seconds anyways
surely some insider will spoil the new class before next week right?
>>546137821LIKE THESE FUCKING SHIT-STREAKED JEETZ THE SNOW APES HAVE ENSLAVED TO CODE FOR THEM WILL GET THE FUCKING PATCH READY ON THE SECOND THE FUCKING VIKANGZ CAN'T EVEN RELEASE A TRAILER ON TIME
>>546136686Just how fucking incompetent can you be to fuck up your own announcement?!
>>546138194Fatshark never leaks
>>546138194I fucking hope so.Just some fucking leaks, actual leaks.Just release a screenshot that hides the identity of the leaker.
>>546138249Crag, you're trying to hard.
>>546136560>this does not affect the release dateHow can we trust this
ay fatshark we gon' get sum' free slop as compensation? fr? no cap?
>>546137618
the only reasonable reaction is to laugh
>>546138527Fatshark has never let quality assurance stop them from delivering a broken janky product.
>>546136560Hahahahahahahhahaha!AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>546138007>Let me get this straight, they set up a date THEMSELVES then change the date at the last minute? Why not just say 11/18 instead of 11/11 in the first place?It's 100% because of GW.Like that is the only sensible reason for it, but Fatshark will never say that out loud because it'd basically kill their partnership with GW.
>>546138527>December 2, 2025, 1 hour before release>"To ensure we meet the quality standards of our class update, we have had to make the difficult decision to delay the release of our new class until January 14, 2026. Please understand. Have a nice Christmas!"
I have never meant it more than right now when I say GOOD MORNING I HATE SWEDEN!
It was supposed to be our day!
>>546136560>To ensure we meet the quality standards of our announcement we delay the announcement
>>546138527At this point I am 100% prepared for that.These fucking dumbasses never get anything right on the first time.
>>546136560>Ganger>So hated>So reviled>That fatshark delays the class REVEAL by a full ass week.
aight, see you next week friends
Just watch, those clowns delay the trailer again next week.
>>546136686Somehow someway I blame ratfags for this.
>>546139093You're going nowhere!I got you for another seven days!Seven days of playtime!
how hard is it to tweet a single word - the name of the class? that would be way better than any gay marketing they are devising.
>>546139297yeah, fuck it, we are "shadowdropping" it
>>546139314they have won, plain and simple
>ganger class CANCELLED>work begins on heavy weapons classholy based sweden
>>546136752>your cope?My cope is that some leaker heroes reveal the class and give Fatshark the cucking they deserve after this.
>>546135965>>546136070Apparently somebody took my screenshot and posted it on reddit, which some forum user then quoted in the official announcement threadThey now know!
>>546139439>december 2nd>class release day>no one knows what it is because the delayed announcement was delayed with an announced delay again>go to steam store to finally figure out what I'm buying>Warhammer 40,000: Darktide - 6th Class>sigh and pay $12
Darktide: the cope times
>>546137535someone make this right meow
I don't think I have ever in my life seen an announcement delayed like literally <1 hour before it's meant to go live that didn't involve an immediate threat to life.
well I'm the rooting for the underdoga bounty hunter class that uses that same type revolver that rannick uses and plays similar to saltzpyre bounty hunter
>>546136686its 100% ganger. they saw how negative people were to the idea of ganger and now they're trying to wrap it up a nice shiny bow
>>546140079I have, and it's called being a glowie in systems engineering
The swedes yet manage to find new ways to disappoint.I don't even know how the fuck you delay a trailer. My guess is either the audio got fucked up and they have to redo it, or the chinese investors asked the swedes why the new sister of battle looked like she ate meth for breakfast and supper and got her hair done by a cuisinart and they didn't have a convincing answer.
Lmao. I asked here when the roadmap dropped >"Hey anons, is it possible Fatshark will fuck up this roadmap?" I was told >"No way anon, a short roadmap like this? Impossible!" Imagine my shock today. Fatshark still can't deal with hard dates. Maybe they should just operate on vague time frames like how they wanted the weapon stats to be vague bars.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAIT'S A FUCKING GANGER AND THEY KNOW NO ONE FUCKING WANTS ITHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHASVEN QUICKLY MODEL A SHURIKEN PISTOL SO WE CAN REBRAND THEM TO A COLD TRADERHAHAHAHHA
how can I start over in ratclick? I last played 2 years ago and I suck I wanna start over
I wanted ganger :(But now that it's delayed, I hope its something stupid like SoB, whatever they release is tainted by this abysmal display
>>546140278On their first stop no less
I don’t care about the price of the new class
>>546140115Necromunda Hired Gun: Darktide edition. including teleporting dog
this only increases people's expectations, which will result in a bigger disappointment when it's finally announced
OK but why the fuck are they announcing the delay through discord 50 minutes before the announcement is supposed to be? In my company when a deadline is going to be missed, you're obligated to inform other team members and the recipient of your product at least a week beforehand. If I told one of our clients>hey you know that new app our team was supposed to showcase today for your partners? in 30 minutes? yeaahhh we're not gonna make it we'll do it next weekI'd get fired in an instant, I'm supposed to give them a heads up the week before. Fatshark corporate culture must be incredibly juvenile and unprofessional.
>>546140183It's either the backlash from ganger set them off or GW is tugging the leash for something innocuous.
>>546140426>only 5kHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>546138897This shit looks so fucking gay and lame, holy hell
>>546136686Fatshark really pulls out all the stops to really make you hate them lmao
>>546140426weird flex but ok
The insane thing is even if it is ganger they should have just revealed it today anyway. Yeah I was half joking about having a nightmare about ganger today but I would have gotten over a ganger reveal I probably would have thought it was cool too.But this decision to actually delay the reveal by a full week no less is pure insanity and destroys any faith people might have had in them.This decision shows deep insecurity and weakness, if they had just released the trailer even if it was lackluster we could still say "maybe it will be cool to play" but now we can't even say that cus not even fatshark isn't showing faith in the class.If fatshark was smart they would immediately pivot and release the trailer today anyway and at least kind of save face.
Why does the Veteran only have one ranged weapon?
>>546140398I suppose if we ignore the event that was going on already and was still included in the roadmap and then vermintides event too yes it was the first stop. That's a fun way of looking at it
>>546140606Laddered several CD. That’s just what I can touch right now.
>>546140426HOLY FUCKING SHIT we got some fucking nobility in here... Everyone bow down to the big shot
>>546140565yeah well the "client" in this industry is gamers and we're gonna buy the stuff anyway...
>have some nice stuff to be delivered to me on monday>darktide class announcement on tuesday>hype as fuck for both, gonna be a fun week>delivery gets delayed to friday>enter fatshark
>>546140565100% something catastrophic internally has happened. Either an intern deleted the entire video and nobody can recover it, or it's stored on some dude's USB and he went home with his phone turned off.
>>546140565>the recipient of your productWell an announcement is not a product... it's a blueballing of the customer. This only makes it more effective, unless we revolt of course...
>amerigolems cannot comprehend that a company could just delay something rather than force the employees to crunch like slaves
>>546140676>destroys any faith people might have had in them.Its been three years of this kind of abysmal dogshit, anyone who still has faith in slopshark is delusional
>>546140759NoThey released the roadmap on the day of the vermintide eventSee >>546136727As seen on youtube as well
>>546140858>>hype as fuck for both, gonna be a fun weekHype for what, a fucking announcement? The class isn't coming until December 2nd, and that's assuming fagshart even sticks to the deadline (LOL!!!!)
10 years of fucking up. Classic Fartshart.
>>546141024Silly me. Dates, how easily you forget them. Just like fatshark
It's definitely gw's fuckery rearing again, and in truth I bet you anything it would've gone through today if we (we as one of the swiggers working on this) didn't get kneecapped by the british fags crying over their fucking admechs having a blue and yellow robe cosmetic
>>546140992>delaying on the last second, a mere video, or whatever it even is, of a reveal of something that will be released at the same date anywayI'm changing my game review to a thumb down in protest ! HMPH
>>546140472Yeah. If it's truly ganger, it's going to cause more disappointment next week than today's announcement would have.
>>546140328either mailing steam support/fatshark for it or buying new key and making another accountit is 2 bucks on grey market
>>546136560I actually cant fucking believe it dude I knew they were bad but this is another level. How can you dissapoint someone who already expected nothing? Actual insanity
>Set your own schedule >Fuck it upIt's just too funny man.
>>546140328don't start over lil bro it's okay keep going as kruber level 6....
6th class? More like... DELAYED!
>>546140426>poor man's idea of dlc paypig
>delay 1 hour beforeIs this some 5D chess or what the fuck warrants this degree of panic blundering? Did some intern edit the trailer alone to the last hour and it was total horseshit?
>>546141406>rejects: fatshark>the crusher: the intern who took the only copy of the NEW CLASS REVEAL .mp4 video on his USB and went home to jerk off to kerillian/gutterrunner fanart while setting all devices on DO NOT DISTURB mode
Guys what cosmetics should I buy to commemorate such a spectacular announcement???
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/eventcomments/659341490666113904delightful comment section
>>546141220Ok? And FS couldn't plan ahead for if something went wrong? Everyone blames GW but it's on fatshark to make sure this shit is ready for the announcement date.
>>546136686destroy this entire company
Friendly reminder to leave a review on steam if you haven't already. It's one of the few things the industry will actually listen to.The bitching about crutch weapon nerfs was embarrassing, but this time it's actually justified.
>>546141730>kerillian/gutterrunner pornKerrie is hookrat property.
>>546141220>MUH GW BOOGEYMAN DID ITYes, they didn't show GW the teaser for their new product beforehand at all. Instead they presented it to James in his court an hour before release and he thumb downed them like Commodus.LMAO the absolute state of darksissy cope!
>>546141220>blue and yellow robeThose colors arent even anywhere in the codex.Fake and gay.Should have went with the ryza orange being the wrong shade or some shit.>>546141920>3000h playedThey delayed this announcement for 1 week, so i sadly have to change my review to negative.
>>546141920>caring about steam reviews
>>546141920lol
>>546142031>power sword nerf corrected after massive review bombing>"""leaked""" plasma and dueling sword nerfs never released after massive review bombingYes. They do care.
>Sorry anon for leaving you alone at the restaurant but my favorite dress has a spec of dust on it so we have to delay our first date till next week. I want to make a good first impression. This message was sent through text btw :)I was shilling for Sisters nonstop but goddamn I would have been OK with ganger at the end of the day. I'm gonna go look at some horses to cheer myself up.
>>546141396This. I don't even know what to say, really
>>546142031>low review score pushes away new customers>"lol why would they care about money"You're not as smart as you think, my guy
What could they possibly not have prepared for a class reveal to be ready? Is the video incomplete lol?
>>546141779Good to know fucking nobody is defending them over this. It really is some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. Who the fuck delays a trailer? Let along at the last minute. The fact that they won't do a namedrop or even show screenshots adds credence too to the theory that it was supposed to be hive ganger and they're just went full panic mode and are fucking scrambling now to slap together something else.
>reddit coping that they delayed the trailer to rework the ganger into a skitarii due to lack of hype
>>546142520kek imagine if the video was deleted like how toy story 2 was
>>546142190you really think review bombing is going to prevent fuck ups? Whatever happened today was unintentional, or else they wouldn't have waited until the last hour to let us down.
>>546142520I will give them the benefit of the doubt of GW meddling and refusing to give them the green light for the trailer/reveal. GW is definitely anal about this kind of stuff. However that doesn't change the fact that communicating this an hour before the supposed reveal time is just retarded
>>546142520Its ready, its just wrong.It has to be something in a vid or whatever takes 1 week to correct.Some detail doesnt line up with a model or design guideline.GW cracks down on shit like this, they have regular meetings with some "lore master" that has to sign everything they do.Most likely scenario, otherwise it would have to be some final destination act of god shit, but thats just boring.
bros I just saved $15 thanks to this simple trick: not supporting fs
>>546136560I'VE WAITED HOURS FOR THIS
>>546142697>are fucking scrambling now to slap together something else.>>546142705>coping that they delayed the trailer to rework the ganger into a skitarii due to lack of hypeDo.. do people really think you can just slap together assets for a completely different class in just a week or two? That's not how it works..
>>546142748>you really think review bombing is going to prevent fuck ups?It'll produce another point on the graph that should hopefully show fagshart's Chinese overlords what direction that line goes in (that being, down). Management will have no choice but to care when big money starts firing them.>Whatever happened today was unintentionalDon't care. Cope. They're continuing their pattern of overpromising and underdelivering. Results matter.
>>546142031I don't care about steam reviews, but companies and studios absolutely do.If "review bombing" did nothing, then journofaggots wouldn't kvetch and screech about it.QED.
>>546142705>mfw years go by and people still don't know how game development worksNobody's reworking shit this late into the devcycle, especially not with 1 week of timeIt was probably a fuckup with the trailer, like they edited it poorly or it rendered like shit
>>546136686I won
I called in sick for work for this because I was ready to shitpost it up. Goddamn you fartshart. Maybe I’ll just go in anyway.
Are people actually upset about the idea of the next class being a ganger? What else could reasonably fill the position without being a stretch lore-wise?
>>546141779what does "add lgbt" mean? add canonically gay characters?
>>546142854>I will give them the benefit of the doubt of GW meddlingOn the one hand, this is plausible.On the other hand, this is also unreasonable.A competent studio would have this shit ready and greenlit long before even making the announcement (FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT LOL). They've been working with GW for long enough now. This is unacceptable from fagshart no matter how you twist it.
>>546137306Underrated post>>546136938Based
>>546143316Darktide used to have canonically homsexual characters, it was the Loner zealot. However the zealot talent tree mini-rework removed it, and now the game is homophobic.
>>546142918You'd think that in that case they would move this shit up beforehand, or check in sooner. Why the last minute delay.
>>546143054Its not hard to just do model swaps and re-record lines in a few weeks. Also game dev is not made in a vacuum. They probably already have the third new class halfway finished by now, or at least one would expect with how liveservice games are supposed to work. I'm saying its gonna be good by any means. But its not impossible.
>>546142705>reddit coping that they delayed the trailer to rework the ganger into a skitarii due to lack of hypeThey're very clearly joking on that one. The lines were something like "Fatshark spray painting Ganger silver and saying 'l-look Admech!' "
>>546142748>you really think review bombing is going to prevent fuck upsCA, another warhammer paypig company, changed their approach to DLC after getting review bombed for bumping up their price on DLC for less content than previous one and even had to add more stuff to the already paid one.
>>546143191Thankfully I’m off today but it feels like an off wasted because I have nothing else to do…
>>546143525>Its not hard to just do model swaps and re-record lines in a few weeksDepends on who the voice actors are. It can indeed be a scheduling nightmare to record lines.
>>546143854just put them through ai filter to make it sound robotic
the fat sharks on the Darktide discord are saying that they aren't allowed to say too much but they're seething about the delay tooso either it's some kind of internal blunder where someone royally fucked up, or GW didn't think the trailer 'aligned' with their standards and refused to give them the greenlightregardless of which one it it, you don't wait AN HOUR BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT TO REVOKE IT that's the work ethic of a pot-paralyzed college dropout
There was a game by a japanese company I used to play and whenever there was a server outage they would apologize and give everyone a little bit of the ingame currency you normally have to pay real life money for. Fatshark just mumbles fuck you and walks off the stage
>darksissies cant even have an announcement without a fuckupwatch as the new ratchad map releases without issueit's obvious which game fartshart wants to work on more
>>546142705>>546143054>>546143128Pretty sure those are just jokes you fucking autists
>>546143952seems 100% on GW thenprobably some "YOU DEPICTED THE CLASS HOLDING A LASPISTOL AND THEY DONT HOLD LASPISTOLS ON THE TABLETOP SO REMOVE IT AND REWORK THE TRAILER NOWWWWWW"
>>546144048gonna larp admech as minigun bardin just you watch
>>546144048still not playing your game
>>546143952No, it's worse.See >>546143445Proper management wouldn't even let such a major fuck-up occur. I refuse to shift the blame on GW, even if I accept that they're a nightmare to work with.
https://youtu.be/kp5wvpkf-EA?si=Km7qkvfS5oL9mvQg
>>546143062>It'll produce another point on the graph that should hopefully show fagshart's Chinese overlords what direction that line goes in (that being, down)may I see this line? Because I remember both the base game and the DLC selling extremely well. Line goes up, not down. >>546143629I'm intimately familiar with CA. Maybe I wasn't clear enough.This is not a matter of choice, it's a matter of competence.No amount of whining and review bombing can train Fatshark to become competent. It's not a choice to them. They don't decide to be retarded. It's what they are. They don't choose to fail. They just fail. They are already doing their best, and that's the funny part.
>>546144208GW is so fucking gay for constantly pulling this shit.As if anyone gives a fuck that an Arbitrator uses a weapon that's not lore accurate.The games could have so much stuff and either GW cucks it, or the devs cuck it by being lazy.At this point, I just want devs to make more games that copy GW aesthetics, just rip them off like they ripped off everything else there is lol.
>>546144078Of course it's a joke. No one could put together a brand new class that fast. Which is why the new class is Ser Kruber.
>>546144492>As if anyone gives a fuck that an Arbitrator uses a weapon that's not lore accurate.We have 10 discussions about lore accuracy and canon every thread?
>>546136686They could have just announced what the class was and made promo material later. Even if it's ganger and people fling a ton of shit there's no turning back on what the class is.
If GW stepped in it must be a big class like SoB or skitarii right? Something they really care about, not a ganger
>>546144492remember, warrior priest couldnt use a flail, but CAN use a flail and shield
>>546144868You make a good point actually.
>>546144721Yeah but the people posting here are +90% turbo autistic.I'm talking about normal people that just want to play the fucking games.
>>546144868it's captain titus
>>546144834A fucking hint maybe? A crumb of news? Not up to quality standards.
>>546144446>may I see this line?How new are you exactly?The game "sold well", player count instantaneously dropped off a fucking cliff with utter dogshit reviews shortly after release.Major updates have seen mostly positive reviews, but the player count doesn't lie. Arbitrator release player numbers dropped off a cliff within two weeks.The important part is how much more money they could be making if they were competent and had actual player retention. The absolutely catastrophic release combined with having jack shit in terms of content, essentially rendered the game half dead on arrival, and it never really recovered.Go back to the forums if you want to do damage control, shill.
>>546144208Can't be the ganger then since gangers can use every generic weapon available in Darktide including the Bolter.
>>546144868yeah i had the same idea, i don't see why GW would cockblock a reveal unless they really really care about the character type's perception
>>546145015There's no fuck up without Fat Shark.
They really waited the last possible hour for this, they genuinely hate us
>>546145087the official line is "To ensure we meet the quality standards of our marketing assets" which sounds like "GW said no" corpospeak
>>546145070Every game peaks on release and then falls off unless some influencer boosts it on JewTube.
>>546136686Nuke Sweden
>>546145470you think they just notified GW on the class and they said no
>fatshark>keeping deadlines they set themselvesshould've seen it coming, there is only one thing they are consistent in and it's this
>sisters PLEASE the reveal is today!>gw says we have to look our best...
>>546144868I'm assuming admech since Dawn of war 4 has them. I think GW is making a marketing push.
waiting until the very last second to break the news that you fucked up something big (even though you could've broken the news more gently much earlier) is what i expect from people like me, i don't expect it from a functioning videogame company raking in millions
>>546144721I for one do not give a single shit about if the class & weapon combo I use in a video game happens to be an accurate depiction of a fucking plastic toy and I can't even imagine how even the most autistic 40k faggot nerd could care either when they're the most vocal people complaining about not being able to use all the cool shit that they actually know about.
The class will be Ganger. It will be good. It will be worth the delay and be super cool. ;_;
>>546145749Something you expect from a college freshman level project
>>546145502But saar these 3rd world stockmarkets (CS, and Dota) have gorillions of players every day botting for items! It's totally sustainable!
>>546145087They can use the bolter, yes.But I wouldn't be surprised if GW was so anal over this and went "they can use bolters but they specifically use this Retardus mk7 Pattern bolter that is signature of gangers"
>>546145791Because there’s such a thing as internal consistency that makes things cooler. Yes there are cool things I want to see in the game but I don’t want them shoved in without reason like it’s a 12 year olds fan fiction.
>IT'S GW, GW DID ITcopethey would've submitted the marketing materials to GW weeks agothe idea that GW pulled the plug an hour before the reveal is ridiculous, they would've had to sign off on it well before thisthis is just fatshark failing to meet deadlines they set themselves, as usual
>>546144721And it's gay and retarded regardless.I want to play a fun video game that has cool shit in it. Like ogryn with a heavy bolter, that'd be fun and cool.But since GW are bunch of faggots and Fatshark is lazy as shit, it results in us, the players, getting the most half assed shit possible.
>>546146115you forget how incompetent GW is
>>546145712SO TRUE SISTERS
>>546146115I'm not absolving Fatshark of blame but GW stepping in to impose absolutely retarded last minute restrictions and vetos like this is not unprecedented.
>>546146115Maybe they just read them it's like 10 people in an office in Nottingham. Maybe the employee who could read was in the drunk tank.
>>546146115>they would've submitted the marketing materials to GW weeks agoMaybe they did and GW in its infinite wisdom went, "we'll get back to you 2 weeks from now"
>>546146115they could have been told earlier and not had enough time to fix whatever was wrong, but that seems weird still because how much could really have needed fixing when its just a traileralso>they would've submitted the marketing materials to GW weeks agothe entire fact that this happened is already undeniably an issue of fatsharks incompetency, so I don't see why the idea that they would put off something like this until the last week or something is implausible
Ball so hard, motherfuckers wanna fine mebut first they gotta find me
>>546146425why what have they done in the past?
>>546145070You're so fundamentally wrong and eager to argue, i don't know where to begin and I don't feel like spending an hour explaining all the different ways you're wrong. But I'll say this:How new are YOU, thinking you can fix Fatshark's infinite retardation with steam reviews??? My sweet summer child. You are adorable. Good luck with your crusade.
>>546146115Why do all of you retards keep assuming the internal timeline and what we get to see match?
wtf is their problem?
>>546146645where to even begin
>>546146526this is gonna be preem, chooms. Ready to spend 20 eddies on this.
>>546146645They told FatShark to disable shirtlessThat's one problem
>>546146561They demanded CA change take away the Nuln Ironsides Repeater guns because they are no longer canon.
lazy swedes just forgot>hey olof what are the discord troons posting about, one hour to what?>oh didn't we say we'd release some content for that game we are making?>ugh, ill start that tomorrow i guess zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>SoBLore inappropriate. While you could easily imagine a Sister of Battle in an inquisitorial warband she would never ever ever be sent to fight alongside dirty shitty expendable convicts but would stick close to Grendyl himself. Seeing as Grendyl doesn't even deign to step onto the Morningstar and lets his interrogator run it, there is no reason why an SOB would be present. Another reason is that the rejects are anonymous for a reason - there are many of them and that would make no sense to imply there are many SOB's on the ship because at that point they would fight together and probably have their own ship. A large complement of SOB's would mean a large proper Inquisition operation and the premise is that Grendyl is running an improvised show and is cut off from the Inquisition's resources. TL;DR you're not getting a Sister ever in this game>SkitariiWith Skitarii its a bit different, since Atoma is a highly industrialized world so they are out there on the planet but again they are a bit too elite for this game, and it would be hard to imagine Admech having them fight in what is essentially penal battalions, it would be very jarring and contrary to established lore. To the Skitarii themselves it would be a huge insult to fight alongside some unaugmented piece of shit criminals.so yeah it was Ganger
>>546146645they've always been retarded and making inane baffling control freak decisions but fatshark is no better
>>546146526That stance...Maybe ganger doesn't suck?
I'm glad for the delay, personally. I want Felinids to look their best and coolest for their first time canonical debut!
>>546146798but it's just a few barrels stuck to a gun...
>>546142918>It has to be somethingSomething like this.
>>546146526>>546146715better be a necromunda gangerthey'd make a necromundillion dollars off of it alone
>>546145630yeah but why the last hour
>>546136560desu no cope it's better this way, we only have to wait two weeks to get the class in the actual game after the reveal instad of almost a month
>>546146606I accept your concession.
>>546146837>Lore inappropriate.Wrong. None of this can't be written off. Cope.>With Skitarii its a bit different....You're snorting too much lorecaine.>so yeah it was GangerMaybe. But the other ones are fine too.
at least now there's only 2 weeks between reveal & release instead of 3
>>546138897Necromunda Underhive Wars
>>546146902I'd take the one on the right. And, make her into a fat glorified noble house cat
>>546146645They're British, and the British are anchored by the most retarded bureaucratic mindset you will ever witness on the planet. Genuinely there is no more inept group of people the moment you give them access to digital information sharing. They go from Barry at the local pub to Debra in HR at the snap of a finger. Everything needs to be micro-managed, blocked, changed, restarted for the twentieth time before you even hit Version 0.5 etc.You know western porn games that have been stuck in Patreon early access for 10+ years? That's the British mindset summed up.
They could have done nothing and revealed the road map a week later. Then they wouldn't have required a delay.
>>546147214The release will also be delayed.
>>546147252Fun fact felinids only live to 40....
>>546147079>>546147214>implying they won't delay the release into 2026
>>546138897>>546146526>>546147061>>546147239darktide would be so much better if it was a necromunda game and each class was a different house ganger starts off with escher, goliath, orlock and delaque
>>546144517How so? What did they do
>>546147427@Gork @Mork is this true?
>>546147550I made it up but you can be sure of it!
>>546147427>thinks them living to 40 will stop me>add in gene rejuv >gives em to 120 years before they now croak
>>546146561Forced fatshark to add the shield + flail weapon to the warrior priest class. For what reason? Because GW didn't sell any warrior priest models that had only flails, they had flails + shield.It's one of those very RARE things that had POSITIVE consequences for a game.But it is ultimately a good example of the most inane shit GW will forcefully "correct" sometimes when nobody who actually plays the games would actually care.Like would people really have fucking cared if Fatshark added warrior priest, but one of the weapons it came with was just a flail with no shield? No, they wouldn't, players wouldn't really care.
>>546145712lollets be real its not gonna be sob tho
>>546147630I would cry and piss myself actuallyAre there minis with the hammer and tome? Id buy one of those just to paint
>>546147357>You know western porn games that have been stuck in Patreon early access for 10+ years? That's the British mindset summed up.laffin
>>546147513>necromunda game>get playable house goliath>but not playable ogryn:sadge:
>>546146115You don’t know that. We don’t know that. For all we know, both of them did something retarded and are to blame. Stop trying to make this a partisan issue.
>>546147630its retarded because you got shit like handmaiden or shade using briar javelinswaywatcher? sure, shes still a wood elf and wood elves use javelinsbut a high elf (specifically sister of avelorn) or dark elf? fuck off
>>546147959I will not allow blame to be redirected from Fatshark. Even assuming GW blocked this reveal, then it's because Fatshark genuinely made an error worth blocking it over.It's Fatshark's fault, no one else's.
>>546148060>Fatshark genuinely made an error worth blocking it over.That operates on the assumption that GW is a good judge of what constitutes a major error or not. And as we know from past experience, they're not.
>>546147389>>546147480QUICKPAW PROMISED IT WONT BE DELAYED. I TRUST HER WITH MY OWN LIFE
just 7 sleeps and we're saved guys LOL
>>546145315That means it has to be a BIG class. Meaning either Sisters of Battle or Admec.
>>546146115people are just parroting sex-pest Tanner's dogshit fag take.
>>546148238>due to another internal error we are once again delaying the announcement until november 25th
>>546146645Draconian mindset rotted and warped by greed. They are the reflection of the Adeptus Administratum.
>>546148262Based. if it was just gangerslop GW wouldn't care
>actual marketing push in fucking /coopg/ of all placesThey really are trying to sell ganger as anything but trash, huh
yeahhh, I'm thinkin' behead all fucking sw*dish niggers in the streets, in front of their office
>>546147782It's gonna be hiver. Daddy GW just dropped new minis yesterday and path of least labor says they're not doing unique weapons.
>>546148238>delay till dec 2>bros we shadowdropped new class
>>546147959>you don't know that>BUT IT WAS GW FOR SUREok sis
So it is hive gangers huh. WIll they at least make the women look cute and sexy?
>>546146526Grim>>546147061>>546147513DT could have been anything else and it would have been better honestly so many different setups they could have done…
>>546148371Don't even do that do NOT jinx this shit if this happens I will blame YOU personally as the one responsible
>>546148060>then it's because Fatshark genuinely made an error worth blocking it over.Yes anon, we need to delay the trailer by 1 week because the Ganger/SoB/Skitarii was using a weapon that had wrong shade of color.According to the Liber Shitelius Maximus 4th edition codex, it states that this specific gun should've been Crimson Red in color, not Red Crimson.Red Crimson colored weapons are only mentioned to be used by guardsmen, zealots and ogryns in the Liber Pisselius Minimus 3.5th edition codex.
If it is a ganger I will go to sweden and kick hedges teeth in.
>>546147513No, is that you GW? You intending to botch things even more? Don't you have cease and desist letters to send to people for painting something a color you didn't approve of?
>>546148060You sound obsessed. Not my problem.>>546148610Not what I said. Learn to read.
>>546148371>>546148607oh god what if they delay it until jan 2026?
FATSHARK PIVOTED! THEY SAW THE BAD REACTION TO GANGER AND ARE SCRAMBLING TO COBBLE A NEW CLASS TOGETHER! THE PIVOT IS ON!
>>546148178>>546148765>>546148835>fatshark internet defense forceBEGONE
>>546148421If it was Ganger slop GW would still care.Their autism doesn't magically stop at gangers. You can go look at necromunda and you can see that they are very specific and autistic about everything in that game system too.
It's a hive ganger. They've made a short teaser for it then checked the online discussion places, seen the dismal reactions and decided to do a big trailer that shows as much stuff about the class as possible.Source: Mister E is my current bottom.
>>546148813fuck off, necromunda is dope
>>546148371>Dont worry the release date remains the same.>The release date gets delayed 10 minutes before release
>>546148421>GW wouldn't careYou are massively underestimating GW's autism.
>>546141220>quarianussysheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeshwrong general tho
>>546148890>THERE WAS LAST MINUTE CLASS IDEAS FOUND DURING MIDNIGHT IN UPPSALA>STOP THE COUNT!
I positive review has been delayed until next week
>>546148262We are never getting Sister of Battle, that's what you have the Zealot for. To play out Sister of Battle fantasies
>>546136686Laughed, but it probably isn't because they are panicking over the Ganger theory. There have been plenty of classes in the past for VT2 where no one was happy with the announcement, or what leaked way ahead of time and they didn't scramble like this. They also can't do anything to make the Ganger not a Ganger. Fundamentally a few weeks for a studio like Darktide just isn't enough time to do anything. If I had to guess? Because of the wording and timeframe this coding for: "Someone put something in the trailer GW would never approve of and now we need to rerender the entire thing." Which, depending on the length of the reveal, and what they need to do could actually take a week. That is a believable timeframe for fixing a fuck up like that. I'd bet someone put a Fuck Pissrael/Pro Palestine shit in the trailer and tried to hide it, but got caught. This might sound crazy, but it has happened a good number of times. In comics, it's happened a shocking number of times at Marvel & DC.
saaaaar it's GW saaaaarwe true aryan swedes at fartshart work very harddo a needful please and buy the raised visor arbeetus helmet
>>546148930Fatshark are inept at everything except gameplay, they're retarded and I'm not defending them. But you also have to be retarded or uninitiated not to know that GW are anal and pedantic about details that don't actually matter.
>>546147061>better be a necromunda gangerHe says when we're NOT ON FUCKING NECROMDUNA!Fucking idiot.
>>546148618Yes it’s been confirmed they will all look like that you can rejoice now
>>546149492Shut it, slavgroid
>>546149309>taking a week to render something>when you could just leave all the office PCs running at the same time, to render like 8 different pieces overnightYeah nah, not buying it, fagshart defense force.
>>546147630Based GW
>>546149309>in comicswrong general go back
>>546147480STOP BRINGING BAD MOJO INTO THIS THREAD!
>>546149562>immediate deflection to slavsFARTSHART AIN'T SENDING THEIR BEST
>>546148930Learn to read Raj your hate boner isn’t reasonable >>546147357Why? Examples?
>>546149114That's actually an IMC pilot.
>>546149502We have cadian niggers running about 9 trillion light years from Cadia along with blokes from Armageddon We could get one necromunda guy
>>546149290>"y-you don't need SoB you have LE ZEALOT>another week of this
>>546149875No one unironically gives a shit about necromunda outside of the very small minority that foam at the mouth for that kind've shit
>>546149309People in the comic industry nowadays are the lowest of the low. The video game industry hasn't gotten that bad yet.
>"THEY DELAYED THE TRAILER BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THE ENTIRETY OF CHAOS WASTE BY NEXT WEEK TO MAKE UP FOR IT!!"
>>546146837Skitarii are not “too elite” they literally number in the hundreds of billions and are their most basic shit tier foot soldiers
>>546149875Hey you fucking retarded faggot. Why the FUCK would Necromunda gangs be flying across the star system to fight on fucking ATOMA.Yes we have Cadians here fighting because ITS THE IMPERIAL GUARDS JOB TO TRAVEL THE GALAXY FIGHTING YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT MOTHERFUCKER!Necromunda gangs only give a FUCK about whats on Necromunda
Itz gonna be un Ork freeboota. Geedubs axed for more dakka in da trailer. Trust da plan.
>>546146837Atoma is a Hive World with manufactorums, ruled by a Planetary Governor, it's not a Forge World with its own Skitarii battleclades nor a Shrine World with its own Sororitas convents. It shits out Imperial Guardsmen like most other planets in the Imperium which is also why its main villains are its former most decorated Guard regiment turned heretics, some of which got their start as Gangers like Wolfer was.
>>546150037Some variety would be nice anyway
>>546149584Do you know how big their files might be? Depending on what the video is, it could literally be a terabyte or more in just assets, and then the rendering time. You need a farm for this, man. Ask anyone who has ever wanted to render a sim from Nuke if you can do something more than a few seconds on your home desktop. They will laugh in your face.
>>546150193I trust diz guy.
>>546146837>Lore inappropriate.kill yourself>they are a bit too elite for this game,kill yourself x2
>>546146837>skitarii>too elite>basic ass foot soldiers whose main job is to die in droves so their bosses can do more important shit>too eliteNigga, are you retarded?
>>546150185Because it's fun and to rile nerds up it seems
This is your next class, anons...
>>546150193Big thinkin'
>>546150059The picture I posted was from an incident where an Indonesian artist put a verse from the Quran into the comic about how Christians and Jews should never be given any kind of power. It slipped through, they retracted and then edited the comic, and black balled the artist. Also, these people are the same people. I talk to them daily. Trust me, if someone had enough of an axe to grind and they thought they could get away with it, they would do it. It's either that or Sven fucked up the render and now they need to redo it.
>>546150221You don't need to be a forgeworld for there to be skitarii to be present.There's numerous adeptus mechanicus forges on Atoma, wherever the techpriests go, their skitarii will follow them.
>>546149875Cadia's main export iswas soldiers, Necromunda exports weapons, soldiers, drugs, even Space Marine aspirants, but not gang members.
keep the quickpaw screenshot in your pocket once the class releases with a myriad of bugs
>>546150529okay Spartacus
>>546144868Wouldn’t bet on it. They care about everything these days. >>546145070I mean it did recover. It just didn’t last.
>>546143078>If "review bombing" did nothing, then journofaggots wouldn't kvetch and screech about it.That’s true. Fair point.>>546142978Damn that’s a lot where you’re from too.
>>546150654Cadians also explicitly have a mandate to go forth and multiply. That has only been reaffirmed with the destruction of Cadia. Cadian women are fighters who get pregnant and then are just breeding sows, and Cadian dudes put their genes into every women they can get their hands on. It's why they're everywhere. They're a whole planet of people with a pregnancy kink as a consequence of the fighting.
>>546150563Techpriests aren't equal, not every Techpriest command Skitarii especially if they're unimportant nobodies who just maintain factories and infrastructure instead of leading planets, crusades or research expeditions. Hadron is a Technoarchaeologist, a senior ranking Techpriest often leading expeditions with Skitarii, and she is instead being a sassy tech support for some Inquisition faggots.
>>546150123They are more limited tho.Imagine all the fun shit you could cram into a "not quite priest"-Acolyte or Tech Adept. The genetor, electropriest and enginseer shit. Servosskulls/Servitors doing a bunch of stuff like lawn moving, healing, buffing, poisoning, exploding, marking enemies.Sprinkle some of the Skitarii arsenal on top of that, you end up with way more possibilities.
what's mr estrogen's stance rn
>15 BUCKS IS AN HOURLY WAGE SO YOU M U S T BUY SHIT PRODUCTS OR YOU'RE POORWhy is this general so retarded? I remember executing paypiggies with BH ult back in Ratclick days.
>>546151064Irrelevant. Skitarii still make more sense than a techpriest. All skitarii are infinetly more expendable than any techpriest.
>>546151173Head down, ass up
>>546151064That's because Hadron did something that should get her reported to the Mechanicus but Grendyl instead is using that to black mail her to be in his warband. That's why she is particularly angry all the time. She's been turned into a car maintenance drone and there's nothing she can do about it because Grendyl could just tell the Mechanicus on her.
>>546151187There are levels below proper tech priest, fits the reject vibe quite well.
>>546151187Techpriests are no more expendable than a priest of the Imperial Cult or Chaos.
>>546151326Lowest form of techpriest that exists are the Enginseers.We literally have 1 of them in the game already and he is a mission handler and not running in the sewers killing poxwalkers.
>>546149584If it is GW deying the trailer, Fatshark would have to go through the approval process again once they fix the trailer.I can easily see that kind of red tape bullshit stretching what could be a 1/2 day job into a full week.
>>546151283So why can't our playable Techpriests be blackmailed bitches like Hadron?
>>546149980It's the truth, the whole point of the Zealot was to put a Sister of Battle in the game without calling it one
>>546151561There are Tech Adepts and below that Acolytes.
>>546151614Why didn't they have the trailer done a month in advance to iron out these issues? Surely they've been working on this class for a while and know what to expect from GW.
>>546151727And skitarii are still more expendable than that because they are foot soldiers who are meant to die in droves.
>>546151668I dunno, I am just explaining why she doesn't have any Skitarii. She's a disgraced Tech-Priest who got a little too heretical with her toys, and it's bad business to let the person you are literally holding life or death over to be able to build up an army of people she can assume direct control over it.
>>546151693You don't need 6 months to make Zealot+>model some SoB armor in a month>recolor it and add random robes and relics on some>rename some Zealot abilities and steal some from Vet/Arbites>go for 3 month vacation
>>546151882>Why didn't they have the trailer done a month in advance to iron out these issues?Maybe they did? But GW being the infinite dickhead that it is just goes "Actually no, we did say last wekk this is ok, but actually we don't like this, change it again."
>>546149980Tell me the thematic distinction between Sisters of Battle and Zealots. Then tell me how that distinction is so large that it warrants an entire class instead of just a SoB-themed premium armor set or something.
>>546136686>>>546138580>>>546138580>>>546138580>>>546138580>>>546138580AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>muh zealotDiscount sob is not sob. It's in the name.
Why aren't there female Nurgle worshippers in big armor who are giant smelly neets?
>>546149980SoBs are zealots. What's the point of having two classes based on faith powers, fire, flamers and eviscerators? Conceptually, zealots can emulate an SoB>inb4 that exact same thing but more focused on ranged combat
After a week has passed there will still be enough time for them to delay it by another week.
>>546152305
>fags are so buckbroken in thinking it's a necromundan ganger>some of them think it'll be a ganger due to the necromundan minis
>>546152368well one is SoB the other isn't. >but what aboutLook it up
you know what? if it's a cog boi all is forgiven
>>546152025So why don't the AdMech just throw their own grunts at Wolfer and stomp his little tantrum huh? Why would they give their own troops to the Inquisition, people who they obviously wouldn't trust to keep their hands to themselves (the hypocrisy) regarding any secrets of the Omnissiah they are trying to defend/uncover?Why are our veterans a bunch of disgraced prisoners instead of being recruited from local regiments?
>>546152025Adepts are the biggest and lowest part of the priesthood.Acolyta can be servitor or civilian levels of expendable.
>>546152305>>546152514poetry
>>546152564because they want to
>>546152538>one is SoB the other isn'tOne is a zealot, the other is also a zealot.
>>546152708well u are bad at lore then (typing this with 1 hand btw that's how much I just won this)
>>546152345>overly jolly>smelly>they ask how many children you want on the first date (initial number they throw out is 20)
Clansneedium gloryhola is full of mechanicus stuffMaybe mobian steel has brought the skibitarii to atoma
>>546152701So what's wrong with random Techpriests volunteering to go on the Inquisition's missions in order to personally punish the heretics/atone for letting heretics defile their sacred forges/protect the secrets of the Omnissiah/fix the damage heretics caused because the Rejects will fuck it up?
>>546152564>hadron kidnapping underperforming veterans>lobotomizes the fuck out of em to be obedient to her>turns em into her own skitarii harem >that's how we have skitarii
>>546152874You are typing this with one hand because you're jerking yourself off imagining you're a woman. Only AGP trannies are capable of this level of logical delusion.
It's 2025 and Darktide still:>no Plasma Pistol>no Meltagun>no Power Axe of any kind>no Hotshot Lasgun>no Heavy Stubber>no polearms of any kind>no Combiweapons of any kind>no dual weild of any kind>no new staffs for Psyker>no Power fist>no Grenade launcher (non Ogryn)>no Volkite weapons (never ever lol)>no Longlas (wouldn't work with the game's pace anyway)And especially!>no new maps except the Operation>still not a peep of a Chaos Wastes type of systemThe story is undercooked, there are not nearly enough maps, Havoc sucks. Mortis is disliked by many but I like it.Holy mother of wasted potential. Rated FartShart/10.
>>546152874Are you jacking off???
>>546153031>>546153072wrong. I just ate some chocolate and I dont want to get the keyboard dirty. btw all classes can be said to be veterans, why do we need them again?
>>546153032>no Power AxeHopefully as good as a combat axe when unpowered
>>546140426probably the biggest checking account here other than mine, sadly
>>546153202Because there is enough conceptual distinction both in flavor and game mechanics to warrant separate classes. What would an SoB niche even be?
>>546153032Boretis Trials is just undercooked. It is however, a rather useful mode for grinding penances.
>>546153241I dont even know what a checking account is...
>>546153032i just want a stubber pistol
>no Meltaguntoo powerful and out of scale, it would either be useful or trivialize bosses>no Heavy Stubberalready exists, locked to ogryn for balance reasons, it's like complaining ogryn can't take a plasma gun>no Grenade launcher (non Ogryn)see above>no Volkite weapons (never ever lol)out of scale>no Longlas (wouldn't work with the game's pace anyway)you said it not meagree with the rest
>>546153032truly the darkcuck is the most pathetic of gamers
>>546153226This is why they won't add it, btw. If it were as good as the regular combat axe when unpowered, it would obsolete it with its activation mechanics.So either it will have to be underwhelming enough to not completely obsolete an already mid-tier weapon in the current balance, or won't be added at all.Also I forgot to mention>Autoguns still suck balls and are in dire need of a rework>the audio bugs out half the time and shots don't register either
>>546153320Yes, more Class we already have 2.0 please.
>>546153362okay furfag
>>546153337I like to do a Mortis run before playing the regular game after I get home from work.It's so over.
>>546153361paying all your shit out of a loan against your Roth IRA protected assets is indeed quite chadly but i started out in a bad zone so i still have some grinding to do
>>546153226it's supposed to be a power axe anyways, I wonder if they made it non-powered because the model has it painted off in the store
>>546153392>TOO POWERFUL AND OUT OF SCALE>while we have plasma gun, metric fuckton of power weapons and pocket psykersR E T A R D A L E R T
>>546153320SHE UHHH WEARS POWER ARMOR (one forced node for +50 toughness)SHE UHHH PREFERS RANGED (couple of +15% ranged damage nodes)SHE UHHH HAS MIRACLES (abilities are reskinned from Zealot except with more holy light)
>>546153320being even more SoB than zealot. giant flamer, no gay charge or invis, more faith MORE. also there are a ton of different sOb chapters or w.e
>>546153392It would trivialize bosses?You mean like Thunder Hammer + Shroudfield already does?
>>546153559ok i don't want it anymore
>>546153032You have to save weapons for the DLC classes anon. If you are lucky they will allow old classes to use the weapons if compatible.
>>546152976nothing. would be cool
>>546152564>So why don't the AdMech just throw their own grunts at Wolfer and stomp his little tantrum huh?Because Fatshark hasn't written that part of the story yet.Like you do realize that the justification they had for why Arbites are now in Darktide is that they always existed but intentionally hanged back and let the Warband do its thing. And the Arbites then have inserted themselves into the war because the inquisition isn't getting desired results fast enough.They can and would 100% re use that same plot point again.
>>546140183>one week scramble to reskin the ganger into a skitarii>meet your new comrade, G4NG-3R, whose kit is flavored around applying various holy oils (NOT BLACKMARKET COMBAT DRUGS) to his systems for combat buffs and utility
>>546153826I thought their story would be they had been under siege somewhere planetside the entire time.
>>546153826So when are the Space Marines done sitting around and finally decide to send 3 guys to solo the heretics with their plot armor?Next year or the following year?
>>546153930whatever we get, we must call it ganger
>>546153826>I have mobian steel and my parents arent home.Ad Mech is there before you can finish your ration.
>>546153032Doesn't it piss you off how badly they wasted the potential of this game?It used to piss me off in 2023, but now? I'm way over it. 10 years of Fartshart dropping the ball.Nowadays I just don't care anymore.
>>546153032>>no Plasma PistolTrue>>no MeltagunTrue>>no Power Axe of any kindThere were leaked power axes around february of 2025.>>no Hotshot LasgunTrue>>no Heavy StubberOgryn has 2, unless you mean veterans, then who knows if we'll get them>>no polearms of any kindPickaxe>>no Combiweapons of any kindToo much work for Fatshark>>no dual weild of any kindShields>>no new staffs for PsykerToo much work>>no Power fistTrue>>no Grenade launcher (non Ogryn)True>>no Volkite weapons (never ever lol)Agreed>>no Longlas (wouldn't work with the game's pace anyway)Agreed>And especially!>>no new maps except the Operation2026 Quarter 1 update! Trust the plan!>>still not a peep of a Chaos Wastes type of system2026 Quarter 4 update! Trust the plan!
>>546153608>does five times the damage on average and has twice the armor penetration as an uncharged plasma shot in the tabletop>>546153753>bad thing already in the game>therefore add more bad things
>>546149875That’s irrelevant. NM gangers have an infrastructure they’re connected to that would be neutered outside of it. >>546150193Weird cope.>>546150554lol classic Muslims at work
>>546153965There's apparently fighting going on in Atoma's moons too, its only mentioned briefly in one cash shop cosmetic though.
>>546153826>>546153965>after acquiring the secret of moebian steel in clandestium gloriana and sending ransoming it back to the admech, grendyl receives a detachment of skittles as thanks
>>546153930>one week scramble to reskin the ganger into an SoB>meet your new comrade, Gangeria, whose kit is flavored around flamers, devotion to the Emperor and eviscerators
>>546153826>Admech insert themselves into the war due to a magos' interest in the mobian expanse>lore reason is because of hadron going behind the retinues back and sending an alert to a nearby magos in the next post code over>main face objective is getting the forges back under admech control>gives hadron more screen time with chiming in doting on the admech characters
>>546153930Kek>>546154000>implying they would need “plot armor” to clean this situation up in a day
official laugh at dorkshiters thread
>>546153032and it's about to be 2026 too
>>546150185>random escher takes so many drugs at once that she summons a warp rift and gets teleported into prison next to wolfer
>>546154000Never because the director himself said that if marines start appearing on Atoma it means the end is close.And marines would just entirely flatten the whole planet and every hive city to get rid of the chaos taint.
Why would they release a Ganger class when theres already a shitload of Ganger themed cosmetics in the game? Plus a Ganger doesn't even have anything unique to them, they're just a shittier version of the Veteran.
>>546154050There is nothing wrong with this statement, most tech in the Imperium is operated by the Mechanicus so any given world with a tech level higher than cavemen have Techpriests running around. The current issue here is the presence of the Skitarii, their military force, which is mostly used to defend AdMech planets and fleets, not Imperial planets and fleets, so we wouldn't be expecting Skitarii to be present. And even if they were, it makes no sense for the AdMech to give it to a small Inquisition warband that can barely supply itself with weapons and manpower, instead of running their own campaign against the heretics.
>>546154493>Why would they release a Ganger class when theres already a shitload of Ganger themed cosmetics in the game?To avoid the arbites pitfall, they can resell you those cosmetics on your brand new class.
>>546154000>>546154397Exactly, that's why they're not doing it.It's below their paygrade.
Ganger of BattleAdeptus GangerusDeath Cult GangerGangling
>>546154398You wont be laughing when we finally get our beloved, must requested, fan favorite Ganger queen...
It's not gangers, it's SpyersThey just showed one of them using a bolgun when the Spyer kits don't have any bolter using variants.
>>546153361This I only have a savings one >>546152976Nothing wrong with that it happens all the time>>546150927I think you triggered him here
yall already have 4 gangers in game lol did you skip tutorial?
>>546154946What's funny's that Ganger is already one of the backgrounds for character creation
>>546154673>Gangeran>Gangelot>Gangryn>Ganker>Gangiter
>>546154595Normal Ad Mech are 100% on the planet, there is a line in one of the missions about where all the Ad Mech that should be there have gone.Im camp Tech Adept/Acolyte anyways.No idea about their make up on Atoma, Skitarri arent mentioned by name at least.
>Wow! What a powerful narrative, Arbites and Ganger must put aside their differences to overcome the enemies of the Imperium.Swedes don’t understand Warhammer
>>546150971I mean maybe but they were also just really numerous before it was destroyed. Remember that only 800 billion people died when that happened and it was a tiny minority of their actual population which was deployed in the galaxy.>>546151116Totally agreed, it make sense too. Skitarii by and large are outfitted with some basic stuff, but the actual members could have all kinds of goodies >>546152345There are but not the way you’re thinking because those seem to be Astartes.
Everyone in this thread theorizing about why "the lore" wouldn't permit something are mistakenly laboring under the assumptions that>everyone in the imperium has perfect knowledge of everything going on within its borders>everyone in the imperium strictly follows the formal rules and procedures for requesting and providing military forces>everyone in the imperium is rational>the imperium can sensibly allocate its forces in the clusterfuck of a gorillion-front war it's been fighting for 10000 years
>>546155501Literally who is assuming these things
>>546152345plague ogryn could be female, we wouldn't know
>>546152564>So why don't the AdMech just throw their own grunts at Wolfer and stomp his little tantrum huh?Maybe they’re trying to do just that but the warp storm currently ravaging the sector is making it impossible to do? Hadron herself is in active communication with Mars, and although they denied her request for more forces, there’s no reason other planets within the sector can’t also attempt to send forces to us, the story just hasn’t gotten there like the other guy said.>Why would they give their own troops to the InquisitionBecause they’re a powerful organization that are useful? The AdMech have a common understanding with the rest of the imperium; you scratch my back and I scratch yours. The inquisition knows not to piss them off because making the people who literally supply you with your equipment is suicide.
>>546155289the gangers can be like rejects tho and it's perfectly reasonable.
>>546136751my wife ‘nichia…>>546137327>>546137535lol>>546137749yeah this sucks man I’m so comfortable here too…>>546138563based image
>>546152996>every skit player gets staggered whenever hadron goes on the vox as their knee servos malfunction
>>546152538Zealot is literally a Sister of Battle
>>546138646Based Charles poster what a beast>>546139656Hey now, he looks like the merchant but he’s quite different…
>>546155982zealot is some schizo fanatic who massacred a neighborhood for some random imagined heresyher only mistake was not becoming a SoB first, hence why she's in jail and not having a statue made in her likeness to decorate a cathedral
>>546140238Anon…? Have a story you want to share?>>546140250> or the chinese investors asked the swedes why the new sister of battle looked like she ate meth for breakfast and supper and got her hair done by a cuisinart and they didn't have a convincing answer.God I wish the Chinese could actually make themselves useful in that capacity
You're off the hook anon, for now at least.
>>546155982zealot is literally a ministorum priest, preacher, and death cult assassinsister of battle does not specialize in stealth or small weapons
>>546141406inquisissies…? your response?
FUCK I'm starting a job Friday most likely I thought I could neet and play the new class
can ratlings join gangs
>>546156426Sister of Battle does what is required by the Emperor, and the Emperor requires her to use small weapons and stealth in Tertium.DO YOU DARE QUESTION THE WILL OF THE EMPEROR?
>>546156665you can do an entirely ratling gang in necromunda
>>546156665aren't they literally space hobbits i.e. good thieves? I imagine they'd be sought after for that.
>>546155982lorelet
>>546156869go back to discord
>>546141730>>546141936She’s for Kruber only keep dreaming
>>546156426nta but it truly does not matter what they specialize in using, the distinctions for the classes are>military>faith>psykinetics>chungus ogryn>law enforcementunless you can conceive of a gimmick to describe SoB here and now that isn't "faith 2" then it isn't happening
>>546156665CRAG I SWEAR TO FUCK I WILL START SHITPOSTING FAT SISTERS OF BATTLE IF YOU DON'T FUCK OFF
>>546156880Ratling Ganger confirmedAll hope lost
>>546157039>>546157050Elenthary confirmed, I hate you fucking bandwagon fuckers pretending you know stuff about 40k
>>546157085>these are the lines in the sand I made up in my mind
>>546157085Does zealot get angel wings and holy hand grenades? What about a lucky bullet? Can they revive themselves? What? Speak up little zealot. The Emperor can hardly hear such puny prayers.
>>546155692>there’s no reason other planets within the sector can’t also attempt to send forces to usSo they can't, either because they don't have them or need them for their own protection, otherwise there's no reason Hadron would go straight to Mars for help when there are her fellow AdMech in the sector.>Because they’re a powerful organization that are useful?And a particularly notorious and untrustworthy one who will send Ork Snipers on you if you piss them off. Yeah just try to casually make deals with glowniggers, let alone try to get a favor out of them. Few people even know what Grendyl looks like so he's even more dubious. Besides, the AdMech has its own separate command structure which the Inquisition (and rest of the Imperium) doesn't use like the Noosphere, and the warband is already stuck with Dukane's 53rd and the Arbites wanting to do things their way even though the Inquisition outranks all of them.If their own Imperial allies barely work with them, what makes the AdMech more cooperative?
>>546157537a sob is not a living saintthe miracles that normal sisters get are equivalent to the miracle that zealot performs with the chorus
>>546157463Brother if you're confused, google Sisters of Battle. The information is right there, plain for all to see.
>>546157085Actual faith instead of larping murderhobo.
>>546157468Come on lil bro, I know you can do this>ganger = lawbreaking>skitarii = technologyjust do that for your precious sisters of battle, say a single new word that justifies their existence and you've won the argument
A whole extra week of belittling battlesissies.
>>546155289That'd unironically be a warhammer plot and fitting.
>>546149502Necromunda is known throughout the entire Imperium because of how prolific its guardsmen regiments are. And who makes up the guardsmen of said regiments? Gangers.
>>546154398>>546152514>>546152305>>546152516>>546144048>>546141591>>546138920>>546138765>>546138646laughbros we're eating good this weekthe cope of the wagies hasn't even begun yet
>>546157710I know we're not getting flying angel sisters that blind everyone with their light... I just wanted to style on zealot militia thinking they're hot shit
>SoB class but it's a hospitaller and will be the first healer in the game
>>546157831What makes the Zealots' faith any less pure or ardent than a Sororitas? The only distinction is that the Sororitas grew up in Space West Point and is an official soldier of the state church.
>>546158293I can't image how brown you have to be to make this
>>546157794You're deranged
>>546158072>sisters of battle = nuns with guns
>>546158428That's zealots again.
>>546158293how quaint that we have local artisans making their authentic memes right here on the sidewalk>*hands you five cents*enjoy the month's pay
>>546158397>>546158585Behold: Sisters of Battle
>>546158653Me all the way on the left
>>546158747Me second from the right
>>546158293>every [idea] is just a combination of other classes' abilitiesbut enough about darktide 1.9.5
>>546158653You are acting like you could tell the difference with how horrid GW sculpts SoB faces.
By the way, why is the book skill from zealot a relic? Why not just point a book at the enemy until they die? That would be way more fucking bad ass. Someone explain to me the lore.
>>546157468Your pattern recognition abilities at least prove you're not autistic, anon
>>546158653What the fuck, how come we don't have the pointy hoods in the game? How very lore unfriendly of Fatshark.
>>546158918If you meant the sisters repentia you'd have a point...
>>546158293>another week of this
>>546158918blame the 'eavy metal painters, the sculpts are serviceable but the promotional material is always painted with exaggerated edge highlights because that's the official style
>>546159060Emperor would get mad if you tugged his sleave for help too often
>>546159215The Zealot outfits have pointed hoods but you can't actually wear them
>>546159215You can only be THIS xenophobic and hereticophobic, no more no less
>>546159060they don't have a holy book, mainly because the Emperor was an atheist who hated religion so they are big on relics
>>546159215>Raven Guard bitchStupid goth trying to pretend she isn't a normie. If you collect Marines of any kind you're normiecore.
>>546159060you shouldn't rely on the enemy being literate
>>546158079It would be a Warhammer premise but always end horribly. There is a difference.
>>546158072Sisters of Battle would have the one thing no one else does: Tits. High Grade Plasteel Bolt-Ons
the exact wording is weird>to ensure we MEET THE QUALITY STANDARDS OF OUR MARKETING ASSETS, we had to delaybasically either GW said something in the trailer does not meet their criteria of how fatshark are allowed to present 40k, or the interns in charge of putting together the trailer were just too lazy this week
>>546159060You can still push monsters off a cliff by shoving your relic at them, just takes a little coordination and timing these days.
>>546153032>The story is undercookedstory?
>>546159417Then why1) is the skill symbol a book2) rougeboat gilspien wrote a holy book3) can't I point out to the poxwalkers that they're heretics and then they just die?
>>546159417the imperial cult is literally founded on the lectitio divinitatus>but emperor said-the emperor disavowed it while he was still alive and nobody gave a shit. 10k years later it is still the foundation.
>>546158293https://youtu.be/vfdYl4vPyKA?t=29I would like to command Dread and Awe
>>546136560So they delay the new class reveal and kill off Chairon on the same fucking day.I really hate 40k right now.
>>546138897You know I would actually be okay if the new class was ganger because the amount of shop slop options we could get but I actually think that goes against it being ganger Fatshark hates working and admech or SoB will just be one set plus recolors
>>546159619I wish I could push my team mates off a cliff too
>>546159480
It’s wild how hyped you guys are
>>546141710This is a great image post more funny ones like it>>546149114Can you post more like this? It’s very hot
>>546159830we already have a ton of ganger sets in the trough they can just repurpose those
>>546159939You don't know how hyped I could be ... The Potential... They're olding it hostage... They know exactly what they're doing ... No I'm not a slav.
>>546159850Just takes BEWARE YON BARR-
ahhh.. it would appear my playable Swagger reveal trailer is encountering some minor difficulties. please be patient, dear strike team
>>546147214this. release is going to be so kino. can’t wait to play it this year. >>546156426unironically true none of those are getting in.>>546156665they have their own gangs dummy
>>546158072>zealot = faith (corrupted)>sister of battle = faith (anointed)overlap resolved
>>546147214lol lmao>but they said-roflcopter
>>546159939We all love this game but Sweden delenda est
>>546160385that's two words
>>546160479G*d willing a r*ssian drone hits Fartshart HQ
>>546157710Technically they are but I think even regular Sisters have performed more impressive miracles than just momentarily stunning some Chaos enemies.>>546158293Careful you’re striking some nerves here with this one.
>>546159939Its the best friendslop we have.inb4 rats.
>>546159060Because pointing books at them require you to be in range and leaves you defenseless while you hold the book channeling your faith.
>>546160385>zealot's faith is corruptedI anoint your mom's face with my sea men lmao
only sister games are dogshit vr and diablo clonesob = 200k all time peak trust the plan
>>546158638i laughed ngl>>546159215you know the reason why buddy (especially the white hood)>imageall 3 of those people are cool and sick
>>546160534one of your categories is "law enforcement"
>>546159512True but also they’re authentic and not fake (anything else would be disservice).
>>546158653I'm really glad you won't get what you want lol
>>546159417He’s not actually an atheist, that was just a ploy to deprive the Chaos Gods of power, we don’t really know how he feels about it, especially now.>>546159672>2) rougeboat gilspien wrote a holy bookWhen did he do that?
>>546160815>zealot's faith is corruptedAgitator is literally corrupt, multiple voice lines talk about him owing favors, exchanging favors, and doing naughty things while no one is looking. Fanatic killed innocents in a drunken bender of misplaced righteous fury and literally says "blood for the emperor, skulls for the golden throne." I'm sure Judge also did something but I don't care because both of their VAs suck and no one in my matches ever used them.
>>546161470>I'm sure Judge also did something but I don't care because both of their VAs suck and no one in my matches ever used them.The only reason I want Sisters of battle is for hopefully decent voice acting.
>>546159821>crying about chaironyou need to go back
>>546161386The Chodex Retardes is just a book of common sense like The Art of War, but due to the divinity surrounding the Primarchs, it's treated as a holy book by some.
>>546155289… That’s literally played out several times across several stories? Hardly anything new>>546154719Unironically the best case scenario. >>546154629Ah then I agree with that yeah.
>>546161624implying the art of war isn't treated the same way
>>546160385>zealot = faith (corrupted)Every zealot in this game can survive an ogryn smashing them in the head a hammer every 2 minutes.Also every single one can pull out a piece of metal every 60 seconds that glows with holy light pushing back the hell spawn we fight.
>>546161607>The only reason I want Sisters of battle is for hopefully decent voice acting.From Fatshark? In Darktide of all things?LmaoYou have a higher chance of fatshark taking Ganger making it actually fun class.
>>546148812Titanfall 3 when?
>>546162053John Guardsman can also yell loud enough to make an entire crowd of people fall on their ass including ogryns clad in a minivan's worth of armor. What's your point?
>>546162576That calling zealots faith "corrupted" is retarded.
>>546161378I really just wanted zealots to look like that pic, if I'm being honest.
>>546157656>So they can'tBecause of the warp storms in the sector. They could still be actively trying as far as we know.>And a particularly notorious and untrustworthy one who will send Ork Snipers on you if you piss them offSame could be said of the AdMech. Solution? Don’t piss them off. The boot fits on both feet. If you piss the AdMech off they purposefully delay your supply of weapons and equipment on that war you’re currently helping to fight or purposefully screw up the construction of a ship you had built to get somewhere so that it falls apart the moment it leaves the atmosphere. Neither side wants to make an enemy of each other, they both stand to gain more from cooperating than feuding. >If their own Imperial allies barely work with them, what makes the AdMech more cooperative?The fact that they could have something to gain from it? Those other groups are fool hardy and don’t like being bossed around obviously but they’ll still do as they’re told if Rannick slaps his cock down on the table and goes “Grendyl says…”, and there wouldn’t be much they could do about it beyond open defiance, he just doesn’t to court good will and because of course more hands on deck is a help. The AdMech stands to gain plenty from an Inquisitor who’s also cooperative.
>>546159821>WH40k is at its weakest when it becomes ultrajeets go "RAAAAAAAAH I LOVE THICK VEINY EMPEROR COCK" and "I HATE HERETICS" and then scream REALLY LOUD and suddenly win through the power of 'imperialist hellgalaxy is bad, but our dictator loves elves and the other undesirables are worse so this makes it okay for now'>It happens, unironically, verbatim, twice in Space Marine 2 near the end of the game (Calgar screaming ---> Runs into Warp ----> Counters bullshit magic apparently ----> Titus screams to kill faggot Sorcerer as he spins the dildo ----> total victory achieved)I will never not find SM2 absolutely laughable from a story perspective. Its like what people who hate Space Marines think Space Marines are like, but the people making it took it 100% seriously. God couldn't have written a better joke.
>play havoc>get into H40 games>every single game I lose because everyone besides me is playing some retard meme build like stealth zigger with a knife or a veteran with smokes or melee psyker or melee ogrynI hate this fucking gamemode
>>546163032melee ogryn is fine chud
Behold: the least corrupt sister
>>546161470That’s just playful teasing anon it doesn’t mean anything lol>>546161624Ah well yeah but it’s not literally a holy book like you say lol.
>>546161470>I'm sure Judge also did something but I don't care because both of their VAs suck and no one in my matches ever used them.Bait used to be believable.
>>546162857Space Marine 2 would have been fine if not for the fact that it was literally just the plot of the first game for the third time.>A sorcerer is trying to use the power stone to ascend to daemonhood, are you a bad enough guy to stop him?
>>546163090I hate to say it but this is hot.
>>546163032>bad melee psykerSkill Issue
>>546163273https://2d4chan.org/wiki/Sister_of_Nurgle
>>546163273Yeah, you'll be feeling hot alright when the fever kicks in from whatever super STDs she's carrying
>>546163090reminder that of the chaos gods, only nurgle believes in reproduction>b-but slaaneshzhe probably gets off on having an abortion
>>546162053Emperor is empowering humans all over the Imperium to do super feats 24/7, it's one of the things that keeps the Imperium going. This has been part of the lore a really, really long time...
>>546160385I specifically said find a gimmick that is NOT "faith 2"perhaps I was wrong to think you guys actually could do this
How is performance in Darktide? I tried it in December of 2022 and had some issues and I am wondering if I should try it again.
>>546163216Thats more of a problem with how they wrote Titus. There's no development or wiggle room there. Titus' biggest character flaw is that he doesn't know how to communicate properly. Most Marines don't since they're functionally just autistic, but Titus is worse. In game 1, Titus arouses suspicion, because people around him don't trust him and he doesn't talk about shit. It isn't until he gets proven right that people finally give him a chance.In game 2, Titus arouses suspicion, because people around him don't trust him and he doesn't talk about shit. It isn't until he gets proven right that people finally give him a chance.Its the only thing they can do. Its why its so fucking weird that theres this one bitter cunt that keeps saying "ILL KEEP AN EYE ON YOU, NIGGER" every time Titus does anything. There's literally nothing else to work with aside from "Suspect." Space Marines are usually Gary Stus, but Titus is a thousand times worse in that he IS genuinely fucking correct every single time, its just that people don't go with his Always-Totally-Correct judgement and it ends up causing problems.In other words, Titus' biggest issue is everyone around him is fucking retarded. Which would be funny, if it wasn't played 100% straight.
>>546163550no one fucking caresthey will inevitably do psyker 2.0, get over itthere's even a possibility they do ogryn 2.0 just to get some more use out of the shared assets
>>546163780just as bad
>>546163434If the emperor is actively intervening to make humans across the Imperium do incredible feats, then isn't that an argument against the zealot's faith being "corrupted"?
>>546163878It is kind of funny that Titus is a level-headed guy in a setting full of screaming retards
>>546163878>Its why its so fucking weird that theres this one bitter cunt that keeps saying "ILL KEEP AN EYE ON YOU, NIGGER" every time Titus does anything.>he IS genuinely fucking correct every single time, its just that people don't go with his Always-Totally-Correct judgement and it ends up causing problems.secondary detected
>>546162763>Because of the warp storms in the sector. They could still be actively trying as far as we know.So they're just not available, and with how warp storms work they could end up at Atoma 500 years later despite taking 2 weeks>Same could be said of the AdMech. So both factions will willingly bargain with each other just because they're powerful? Not gettting in each others' way is also not pissing each other off. This is a favor from an Inquisitor you're talking about, not some basic resource trade, and the AdMech assistance is not guaranteed to turn the tide. What then if the Imperium still loses? The AdMech loses their factories, their troops, and Grendyl isn't beholden to them since they didn't retake Atoma so they gave him their troops for nothing. And from Grendyl's perspective, Atoma may be important to his operations, but perhaps not important enough to cut a deal or need their help. Inquisitors can and will sacrifice worlds if needed, so if it meant not owing the Mechanicus, Grendyl can just ignore their cooperation.But since there's no Skitarii around anyway, Grendyl will just have to make do with random Techpriests coming up to Rannick and asking to volunteer, so he doesn't need to lose anything.
>>546163980guilliman thinks his dad is a giant dickhead and hates him and what the imperium has become, but Big E still brought him back to life
>>546161142Yeh, that bothered me for a little while too after I posted thatreplace "law enforcement" with "lawkeeping" and "chungus ogryn" with "chungus" and it is functionally the same
>>546136560It's okay guys I'm sure our benevolent Swedish friends will make it up to us with a small gift of 500 Aquilas or the like. Surely they wouldn't just leave us simmering in disappointment for a whole week.
i'm so tired with the xitter drawings
>>546161470>shittalking agitatorHow well you treat your fellow faithful has nothing to do with being a good believer also fuck you M agitator best zealot VA>Fanatic killed innocentsa)there's no such things as innocence only degrees of guiltb)if "innocents" getting killed as collateral damage when you're overwhelmed by faith was heresy imagine what this would imply for the Imperium>"Blood for the Emperor, Skulls for the Golden Throne"Then again, the above doesn't guarantee purity...I hate to be that guy because I usually love Lawful Good shit, but you have to remember the Imperial Faith is a belief system that is alien to us, not Space Catholicism.
>>546163970Really?
>>546164648>Emperor is a giant dickheadHe is.>He hates him.He does.>Hates what the Imperium has become. Guilliman is correct to hate it. >Big E still brought him back to lifeThat was Cawl.
>>546164942In some ways better, in some ways worse. As is the nature of an incompetent developer.
>>546165037Mortarion killed Guilliman during their reunion but the Emperor rezzed him and empowered him to BTFO his jobber brother and permanently damage Nurgle's garden.
None of this would've happened if my wife Strawhat was still with us...
I still don’t know why they didn’t just dodge the female custodes thing by doing femme Guilliman/Jean d’Arc and launching a new sect of genetically blessed/modified SoB partially entrusted with protecting the throne. Could’ve even just used Celestine desu.
whats the best build if i want to make a arnold schwarzenegger hipfire minigun type of ogryn? is it even possible to make a good one
>>546165296Oh, that. He didn't do that because he loved Guilliman or some shit. He did that because he's an angry, spiteful monster and wanted to hurt Mortarion for helping destroy his version of the Imperium. His version, mind you, was going to result in the gradual genocide of the entire human race as it is now because the Emperor believes in stacking what he sees as improvements to the tools he makes and change humanity via biomancy. That was his plan from the start. The Emperor was always a hilariously evil guy. A total utilitarian "The Ends justify the Means" maximalist whose intended goals were so god damn horrid that he had to hide them or lie about them because if he didn't then everyone (not just half of the Legions) would have turned on him, no Chaos necessary.
>>546165769Rape AqshyMarry JuliaKill Strawhat
>>546163434This is true, it’s gotten more potent in recent years too as seen with the advent of Living Saints >>546163980Yes it is >>546163878>Space Marines are usually Gary StusNot really but it’s true that Titus in particular just kind of… flows along without much trouble in terms of ideas and stuff.
reminder that female custodes look like this
>>546165953>eliter elitesCustodes in general were a mistake, conceptually. There was zero reason to add them. Femstodes existing was actually a good move because it made them distinct from Astartes..
>>546166067Entirely justified. Humanity blows.
>>546166067You could just say the Emperor simply found Girlyman more useful alive than dead since a broken tool is useless.
>>546166180Hot
the emperor isn't a giant dickhead he was doing what's necessary to protect humanity from chaos. it requires a lot of cold decision making to save humanity from literal gods of evil
>>546164648>>546165037there’s nothing actually proving emps hates guilliman they talked for like 5 minutes when the emperor was breaking up over what was essentially a psychic landline and he seemingly misinterpreted some stuff over his garbled speech
>>546166180I thought that was a fat futa cock, I am going insane
>>546166523i think you're just a closeted homo
>>546162857it is getting a bit obnoxious with how Space Marines are supposed to represent both the best and the worst of the Imperium but the main media always pointedly avoids depicting the worst parts
>>546166684>closetednigga you retard ?
>>546165953Here is the timeline on female Custodes:>Rogue TraderThey are a bunch of jannies in leather armor with spears. A complete ceremonial role that no one takes seriously. >3rd Ed. through 7th Ed. Custodes are not born from geneseed, they are a bespoke creation. Geneseed is a hack that the Emperor developed to create "Custodes" like warriors en mass. This creates an on and off again conversation between extreme lore autists about whether or not this means Custodes could be any gender since they aren't falling under the same stated requirements of the Space Marines (needing to be male). >8th Ed.Custodes codex clarifies in the lore that Custodes are noble born sons given over for the procedure, but it never explicitly says that only men can becomes Custodes rather the statement can be interpreted that it's just customary for the unwanted sons to be handed over (think IRL royalty giving their sons to the Church to become priests in order to avoid familial conflicts). >10th Ed comes outGW clarifies the piece of fluff in 8th as being customary, and not gender restrictive by introducing female Custodes, thereby setting the entire several decades long argument to bed.
>>546166772At least he's not french
>>546166772futafags usually cope. otherwise they would just admit there's no practical difference between a futa and a tranny since futa aren't actually real
>>546166067>did that because he's an angry, spiteful monster and wanted to hurt MortarionNot really. He just doesn’t know want the human race dying out to chaos. It’s been implied that he’s even willing to forgive the DPs if they ever somehow found a way to release themselves from their current masters but that’s unlikely the way things are. > gradual genocide of the entire human race as it is now because the Emperor believes in stacking what he sees as improvements to the tools he makes and change humanity via biomancy. If you’re talking about turning everyone into space marines eventually, I’m pretty sure most people knew this the goal. It’s just been forgotten over time, and he would have presumably perfected the method to complete that transformation if he had more time.
>>546166503>"I am going to protect humanity from Chaos by not telling the guy who leads my armies to watch out for it"I understand what you mean, but it also makes him look like an idiot.>>546166523Same.
>>546166518He sees that Guilliman failed to hold the Imperium together, he also always intended for the Primarchs to just be a tool in the next step of his plan. They were never the end goal. What use is a shitty tool? He doesn't like Guilliman, he doesn't like any of them. He just sits and seethes about the doom that occurred because Erebus's autism accidentally got Horus mind fucked about what the Emperor was planning.
>the naive couple had to be rescued by the hardened chudIt's a tale as old as time
>>546166874oh shit
>>546166503He is. Do you know what his long-term plan was for humanity? It's genuinely Space Super Hitlerism.
>>546166874Very true. Closeted homosexuals the lot of them.>>546166703What do you mean? How do you think they should be acting?
>>546167063>mr and mrs gert-chjanwtf kind of a name is that?
>>546166265They were already distinct though. Golden guys with cooler armor and weapons who didn’t actually deploy anywhere but just stayed at the Emperor’s side was good enough. Literally the most effective fighting force at the human races disposal but it didn’t matter because they were useless 99 percent of the time. It was nice.
>>546166874>just admit there's no practical difference between a futa and a tranny since futa aren't actually realfutas are generally born women and grow cocks latersaying this makes them the same as men is actually a pro trans stance
>>546167198I'm not sure what you mean by super space hitlerism. I think his plan was to wipe out xenos and create a universe where people don't even have a means to know about chaos, destroying all knowledge of it and black bagging anyone who begins to develop even an understanding of it
>>546167654We got a futa expert over here
>>546166905>space marinesHe goal was to do the Battle of Mount Arrarat 2.0 but on the galactic level, after he had begun to come up with his new replacement for the Custodes, Space Marines, and Primarchs. He was going to wipe out everyone to replace them with his grand vision of humanity. People interpreted this as better living standards, a sort of major renaissance, a time of wonder, and the Emperor fed into that. In reality, he was just prepping to kill everyone with his new breed. Just like he did with the TW's, and just like how the Custodes became a vestigial organ because they are a dead end. The Emperor's entire thing is constantly "improving". And yeah, his great enemy is "the great enemy" but the means to which he was going to try and starve them out is crazy.
>>546166905Emperor didn't want humans to become Space Marines or Custodes or some artificially enhanced superhuman. He wanted normal humans to rule after his supersoldiers killed off all xenos and rebels that could threaten the Imperium. It's Fabius Bile who wants to create a new superhuman species that can naturally procreate.
>>546166790It's more just annoying to me that there are these really cool things in the lore that they forget about and leave completely unused in favor of bringing back obscure literally who's and just making up entirely new bullshit. They don't care about their own setting and that's frustrating because there are a billion passionate fiction writers out there who could probably do better but capitalism and nepotism do not favor creatives.
>>546167654no it isn't. because futanari aren't real so nothing to do with their literal existence matters. if you wanted to, you could take a drawing of a male body builder with a 12 inch dick and say its a woman "because she started out small and with a pussy" or something. RETARD argument. It's retarded to even talk about it. but what actually matters is your perception. when you look at a futa with your eyes, you are perceiving a feminine form with a penis. the penis is what you LIKE about it. a penis attached to a female form. not only is that gay, it's exactly the same kind of appreciation you would have for a tranny. now kneel, and expose your neck so that I may severe it
>>546167948Even more frustrating that 40K presents a unique opportunity for curated stories in the form of the various sectors and planets on a massive galaxy-spanning map, but instead of a sensible approach like farming these specific places out to specific creatives and allowing the story to unfold organically with minimal oversight, they just shotgun shit at random and destroy/memoryhole anything that gets too big for containment.
>>546167671His goal was to control the galaxy, kill all of the Xenos, and then start genociding everyone after he cracked the code with his next project and had safely established his own webways. The end result of this work would have caused Chaos to actually die out. You can see how each thing he does is some attempt to do that, but realizing he needs to go bigger. Eventually he goes as big as he can which would be to kill and replace everything that Chaos could have fed off.
>>546168156that's basically what I said with more specific detail. and so you think that's a bad thing? why
>>546158653Zealots need pointed hoods so bad.
>>546168148I've long wanted them to simply draft design bibles for the various races and factions and then hand sectors and planets off to different levels of established writer for a period to see how it works out, any dissimilarity not mentioned in the bibles can be chalked up to genetic drift or warp shenanigans, but it'll never happen.
>>546167045> He sees that Guilliman failed to hold the Imperium together… but he is holding it together. It’s still around. It’s true that the Primarchs are/were ultimately just tools but there’s nothing indicating he outright hates them besides the garbled nonsensical speech he was putting out like I said, at least as far as I know.>Horus mind fucked about what the Emperor was planning.Technically but Horus betrayed him because he found out he lied that the Warp/Chaos wasn’t real even after Emps explicitly told them it wasn’t, and high was kind of a big deal when the whole thing he was building was being built on rationality
>>546168084>futanari aren't realBut trannies (at least AGP ones) aren't real either
>play H40>i lose every game because retards keep dying and i'm the last man standing regularlyHonestly makes me not want to play this god forsaken game.
Why is the cosmetic shop still time locked?
>>546168370Because the Emperor's morals are hugely fucked. He pretends to be the father to the Primarchs (as weird and poorly demonstrated as it is in the HH books, you will find that this is the motivation behind everything: daddy issues). Yet his goal was to take them all out (and their own sons in turn) behind the back of the barn and cap them. Which in and of itself is bad enough because he'd already done that with the TW's, he was going to do the same thing with all of the normal people as well. He wanted to make humanity, into Eldar minus the degeneracy; which is why the Emperor was able to start building up a relationship with the CWE. They saw him as a "Monkeigh" but also couldn't deny that he was an incredibly powerful, incredibly forward thinking Monkeigh that could do what they no longer had the capacity to do. If this guy can starve out Slaanesh, then you don't need to worry about She Who Thirsts eating you and your families, and on top of that, you can just betray him later on because typical Eldar arrogance not being able to put two and two together. If this guy is genociding everyone else, why wouldn't he do the same to you just in case? idunnolol.
>>546168156>>546167835Is there a source for this? “Emperor was actually planning to kill everyone all along” is a pretty bit sounding deal but I don’t think I’ve ever heard of it even as a theory… this isn’t just a theory, right?
>>546169126>He would even sacrifice his beloved sons for the good of humanity.Truly the greatest mangod of all.
>>546168156>kill all of the xenosNot really. That's just the imperial cult. It just happened that most of the xenos that survived the age of strife were horrific monsters there was no other possible interaction with than extermination so you wouldn't be to blame to assume that, but no, Emps wasn't inherently xenocidal - pretty sure Horus wouldn't try diplomacy with the Interex if it wasn't so.
>>546167948I mean in fairness they have brought back some cool concepts. That’s just how GW’s worldbuilding works. They introduce some cool new lore tidbit at some point in time, progress the story more and then return to said lore tidbit to expand on it at a later date. It might take frustratingly long and there’s *alot* of them at this point and it could be handled better but you also have to remember they’re interested in selling figurines and the table top first and foremost, so that kind of thing is kind of overlooked.
The fact that the announcement was delayed for marketing reasons must mean that they hold Darktide to a higher standard than all of the digital tableslop games that bog down their announcement events, r-right? Holy fuck those games oversaturate any fucking warhammer event.
>>546169126I don't think his morals are fucked, he was just doing what's necessary to bring about the best possible future for humanity. I would let him execute me if it was necessary for a universe forever free from chaos. Do you understand how miniscule the lives of billions upon billions of people are when your timescale is measured in eternities? You can be nice, and you can fall to chaos anyways and humanity spends the rest of its existence being raped and tortured or struggling to survive. Or you can dare to defy the gods, and do everything in your power to secure an existence without chaos forever.>>546169168That's the least charitable interpretation of what the Emperor said in books like Master of Mankind, but it's never explicitly said. In my opinion, it's more realistic that he would keep some of the primarchs who adapted successfully into rulers (like the Lion, Guilliman, ect) and get rid of the rest, like the two he already got rid of that nobody even knows the name of. You have to remember also, that the creation of the primarchs didn't go fully as intended because of chaos. Some of them obviously got more corrupted than others.
>>546168767>but he is holding it togetherI mean the war. The Emperor sees failure everyone in his creations. IN HIS CREATIONS. This is a big theme with the guy. He constantly blames his tools. He's the meme about "a bad craftsman blames his tools". Anything that fucks up or isn't what he wanted it to be, he gets angry at and then repurposes in some way (until it isn't useful anymore). His plan being a series of trials and errors is actually something I kind of like GW doing. What I don't like is that he doesn't learn from those errors and his goal is basically the same thing every time (just in different forms). The Primarchs being a tool isn't so much the issue (well, it sort of is given how he plays about how much he supposedly loves them, and designed them to love him), it's that he blames people that he is ultimately the one to blame for. >he found out he lied Yeah, that is kind of the point. The Emperor's plan only works if he is constantly lying, because if he tells the truth (not just about the Warp/Chaos), everything goes fucked. The Primarchs wouldn't have sat around and just accepted what he intended to do once they (and their legions) were no longer useful. This actually does provoke an interesting question: Had the Emperor been truthful about his long-term plan, which Primarchs would have gone along with it? Even if it meant lying to their legions. It's a weird hypothetical to imagine one where Perty and Dorn are potentially fighting together against Angron and Vulkan.
>>546169978>I don't think his morals are fucked, he was just doing what's necessary to bring about the best possible future for humanity. I would let him execute me if it was necessary for a universe forever free from chaos. Do you understand how miniscule the lives of billions upon billions of people are when your timescale is measured in eternities?>You can be nice, and you can fall to chaos anyways and humanity spends the rest of its existence being raped and tortured or struggling to survive.>Or you can dare to defy the gods, and do everything in your power to secure an existence without chaos forever.I disagree with you, somewhat, but that was beautifully said.
>>546169126> He pretends to be the father to the PrimarchsWouldn’t say that. I think at best the most you could say of the Primarchs is that he looked at them like a craftsman views his greatest works. This is reflected in his cold attitude toward them in general I feel.
>>546136686I don’t buy DLCOnce the DLC content gets too obnoxious I move on to a better game
>>546169126Ehhh, he did that to the TW because they were literally insane and active detriments to everyone around them with their uncontrollable bursts of rage and manic attitude. If there was a way he could have kept them around, he would have because they were objectively a great fighting force, but the whole point of SMs is that they could be great fighters *and* also integrate into wider society as great scientists, artists, writers, politicians, etc. and so given the choice between the two he decided he wants good fighters and citizens rather than just great fighters.
>>546169978>We want what's best for humanity even if it means exterminating humanity to do it.
>>546166790>A complete ceremonial role that no one takes seriously.Nice talking out of your ass, they were stronger that marines since day one.
>>546170686You can't pretend like exterminating India wouldn't be a net benefit on humanity. Sometimes a little extermination is good.
>>546170342poorest man alive
>>546167489Probably dutch
>483 comments>0 thumbs upThis has to be a record of somekind, right?
>>546171151I just hopped on to drop a down doot on they ass
>>546170990I meant that the Custodes can hardly be called human.Brings to mind The Abolition of Man.
>>546170823Now post their equipment list. It's leather armor and spears. They're jannies, and the descriptions of them in RT doesn't support them being anything like contemporary 40k beyond the ceremonial role of being body guards of the Golden Throne. Your table isn't as useful as you think it is.
>>546171151half of the comment section is in russian despite the post being in englishwhy are they like this?
>>546171359I prefer Narnia
>>546170686go suck off slaanesh's futa cock then. your reply is about as worthy of serious attention as >>546168856wouldn't be surprised if you're the same guy>>546170157She kept her distance from the Golden Throne. She could see it upon its raised dais, though she chose to scarcely look at it. Kaeria and her Sisters were forbidden from approaching too closely – their presences sucked at the machine’s power and destabilised any psychically resonant machinery. Similarly, past experience told her that the blinding majesty and stupefaction others felt in the presence of the Golden Throne were wholly absent for Kaeria and her Sisters. She saw a man on a throne, no more, no less. No radiant halo. No psychic corona. She would have preferred the majestic ignorance. Better to feel everything and see almost nothing rather than stare upon the naked truth: the enthroned Emperor was just a man in pain, His suffering etched plain, His mouth open in a silent scream. The universe of 40k is a brutal place, it requires brutal solutions. The Emperor sacrified a lot for his plan, and his plan for humanity was beautiful. Beautiful like something sculpted in marble.
>>546171476Why can't russians reply to english posts?
>>546171735IN russianThose slavgoloids should speak english
>>546170236That isn't mutually exclusive. He's saying the words that he needs to say, but he views them as a meat puppet that he can control with words and compulsion since he can't be everywhere. That's one of the biggest problems that Emperor has: he cannot be everywhere. If he could, he'd have skipped all this bullshit. It's a problem he experienced even when the conflict was as small as the Unification Wars. He would be in one area, Valdor in another, Malcador doing Malcador shit where he needed to be doing it.
>>546170648>NTA>the whole point of SMs is that they could be great fighters *and* also integrate into wider society as great scientists, artists, writers, politicians, etc. I have a pet peeve about this never being depicted. Ultramarines, for example managed to hold the realm of 500 worlds of Ultramarines as a comparatively stable part of the Imperium for about 10,000 years without Guilliman or the Administratum, and even managed to avoid them falling to mundane corruption rampant in the rest of the Imperium. This implies Titus himself would likely be able to arrange an economy the size of USA to operate at peak efficiency, but details such as these are never mentioned.
>>546171735Its customary to reply in the same language as the original post Ivan.
HOLY SKIBIDI CHUNGUS AMONGUS SUSSY DAB LABUBUMR E JUST DROPPED A NEW BANGER
>>546171958jebo ti pas mater u pičku pederčino jednaMy father's name is Ivan actually lmao
>>546169978>Some of them obviously got more corrupted than others.Isn’t the new lore that their mom scattered them across the galaxy because he didn’t want emps turning them into “warlords” or whatever?
>>546171476they only speak in russian in game as welli'm tired of losing games due to slav autismthey throw a slur and disconnect at the tiniest inconvenience
>>546171359I appreciate that you realize this. A lot of Custodes retards think that they are just Space Marines but Better-er. This includes Custodes primaries, which is insane to me when every time we get a look into how a Custodes thinks and what drives them to do things you can see they are wind up dolls, automata with meat. They're not people. It'd be hard to argue (IMO) they could even really describe to you what it is to be a person.
>>546169126Ultimately, Emps never viewed his sons more than tools (some tools were better than others in his eyes like Horus), which ended up causing all the daddy issues, though many Primarchs were also giga autists who had trouble understanding normal humans like their dad did, which made their relationship even more complicated.
>>546172106>Throws out insults for no reason during polite conversation>>546172198>they throw a slur and disconnect at the tiniest inconvenienceMany such cases. In this thread in fact.
>>546169863It’s sad that GW is ran by ancient incompetent boomoids who think those things actually sell, if they were actually smart or in touch with current trends they’d know getting some big name company to do one big 40k game would generate them more profit than the dozens of the no name slop projects that get shat out.
>>546171958No, minä en halua vastata englanniksi, koska sinä olet tyhmä.
>>546172480GW doesn't want the vidya to be good because they think it competes with their plastic toys. Yes they are retarded.
>>546169625Yeah the imperial attitude towards Xenos back then varied some Primarchs actually tried to make peace and stuff and we know from the Silent King he met up with and liked Sanguinius and even Eldrad cooperated with and made friends with a lot of Imperials
>>546172702It's not even because of that.They just don't give a fuck about video games. All 40k games and the like are just advertisements for their tabletop game and miniatures. Nothing more.They make up like 200 million £ from their miniatures every year.While they only make like 14 million £ from ALL licensing shit, ie. video games.
>>546170993>>546171107>>546171289>>546171476>>546171693all true
>>546167835>mfw its the minor chaos god of progress in a mask scheming on full godhoodexplains the ad mech too
>>546173398How did you know it was all me?
>>546172702wotc had the exact same fear for decades and now that they have a platform that doesn't suck complete ass (arena is technically competent, suck a fat one autistic replyfag) their sales are better than everGW should just take the L and get over the Blizzard swing and miss
>>546171471eh, I take your point there, rogue trader characters have a 75% chance to start with a lasgun and have no armor. Though you could argue this is to balance them out against other characters and you're meant to upgrade them eventually.
>>546172383They’re beyond human for sure, but they’re not mindless automatons. Remember that everyone of them has the capacity to be great generals, leaders, poets, etc., but any and all passion and ambition is curbed for the sake of serving E.They’re kind of like if you distilled the best qualities of humanity into one being… but that thing is arguably no longer human in that case.
>>546173779>kind of like if you distilled the best qualities of humanity into one beingYou literally just described me
>>546173897post body with timestamp so i can fuck you in the ass you adorable little twink
>>546172702That leads back into it being ran by incompetent boomies, yeah.
>>546157226no you won't, tony.
>>546173991I'm 9 feet tall and unbelievably jacked
>>546173897this you?
>>546174079I got nine inches of meat you're about to be unbelievably jacking
>>546168425The problem is the Chaos Dwarf Lammasu.Basically, back in Ye Daye, when they'd just chuck cool sounding shit in the army books with a "yeah we'll make this later" or a "DIY, lads", they had a nice piece of art for a chaos dwarf riding a Lammasu. Someone used that to throw out their own version, and when GW tried to sue them for it the ruling was that concept art =/= copyright for a physical model. This is what started the "no model, no rules" thing and possibly even the whole copyright paranoia in the first place.Potential Mea Culpa: it has been several years and I'm not SO bothered that I'm going to look it up for a quick 4chan post. I could have some exact details wrong but that's how my brain has stored it.
>>546174258sounds believable and retardedthe top product never gets simulacra'd so long as there's a level of quality the layman finds passablei would have never purchased a copy of blade of darkness if not for dark souls
>>546173047This. Their attitude - and I don't think you can blame them - is "we know how to make models. You know how to make vidya. You want to exploit our fans by using our imagery, write us a big enough cheque and we're cool. It has to look a certain way, but the GAME is on you."
>>546174652in more apt terms i am considering purchasing a SoB kill team because I find the sci-fi trope of fiery female zealot they undoubtedly helped inspire p. cool>>546174770this doesn't gel with swedish excusemaking tho
>>546172383I wonder how long it would have taken in the Emperors new utopia before the Custodes realized that if Warp sensitive entities are the problem why are they bothering to keep him around?
Musclegirls are gay because they are futa-codedEvery single person I know who's into msuclegirls is either a tranny or a faggot.
>>546171910I would say that the Emperor was was at least honest in the sense that he never really did or said anything that would let them think “wow he’s literally my daddy :)”. The relationship between them all was always, at best, a staunch and serious employer who you occasionally joked around with and could even relax a little around and saw your worth so he elevated you accordingly but at the end of the day you knew what was expected of you. Sure he said and did whatever to ply them but he always kept it professional.>>546171938It’s not so much that *every* marine *is* or *can* be those things, but that they have a greater possibility to be, depending on the geneseed they’re implanted with and circumstances they find themselves in, and it might manifest themselves in different ways. Titus might have a mind for really efficient strategy, but whether he could manage the governance of country or world is probably another matter. We know that when they aren’t fighting it’s not uncommon to find marines engaging in whatever strikes their fancy depending on the chapter, but yeah stuff like ‘the Blood Angels are actually great singers’ rarely gets to be brought up because everyone is always fighting and it’s not especially relevant.
>>546175013>msuclegirlsElaborate.You better not blanket include fitgirls and female barbarians.The art communicates personality type, not some body related fetish.
>>546175013some of them are manipulative fucks who know that lifting and pretending to be into muscle girls is a way of subliminally manipulating women into thinking you'll provide them with a better life
>>546175152Half of the Primarchs were psychotic before he even found them.
>>546136560>delayed at the last possible secondholy SHIT
>>546174173holy shit you owned xher here
>>546161616He already went black, he cant go back.
>>546174843>this doesn't gel with swedish excusemaking thoAnon did address that>"It has to look a certain way"Ie. GW still wants shit to be accurate to the lore and the IP, so nobody starts to insert their cringe OCs or female space marines or whatever into an official GW licensed product.But I do agree that GW is retardedly anal over this shit and goes over board.Like I guarantee you that this trailer shit that they are upset about is probably something really fucking stupid that basically no one would've noticed.
>>546167835And he succeeded with the T'au. Just a few modifications and... oops, all Thrones.Too bad they'll be devoured by their Genestealer-infected Ethereal just before Big E can use them.
Hasn't anyone thought to bring the Votann to Terra to work on the Golden Throne? Too heretical? The Imperium presumably isn't broadly aware that they're abominable intelligence, just some king of merchants who makes insane tech.
>>546173779I'm not saying they're mindless in the Servitor sense, but they are completely detached from what it is to be a person. Genuinely, read any of the books with a Custodes main PoV and you'll see that that guy has no fuckin' clue about anything. They're a bunch of Kim Peek's who go on murder hunts within their continent sized NEET cave.
>>546176108Squats want nothing to do with the Imperium.
>>546176108the votann feel no kinship with humanity and will butcher an entire world of unarmed civilians to melt down their cities for scrap metal. One of their big philosophy things is "You have what you hold", which is how they justify stealing everything from everyone else and conversely going fucking nuclear if anyone touches any of their stuff. They're space israelis.
it can't be ganger right? surely there's nothing they could have done with ganger that would upset the GW higher ups, Necromunda is their most off the leash, whatever goes property.At this point it could very well be a genestealer and GW told them the rest of the rejects can't know.
>>546175152It should be especially evident with Ultramarines successors given how important it was for Guilliman to leave them a legacy, the Codex Astartes and all, and the fact they governed an Imperium within an Imperium for 10,000 years despite having like 20 Astartes per planet. Less so with primarchs who didn't really give a shit like Mortarion or Angron (if we ignore the fact they fell to Chaos).
>>546176335Who said anything about giving them a choice? Didn't they have to enlist the help of xenos at one point?>>546176362That makes sense, I guess. They can be dealt with though, the T'au seem to have a stable trade alliance with them despite being unable to hold off any incursion of the size the Imperium has bore dozens of.
>>546161470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwTck53BImwKhorne cares not from whence the blood flows. Every raging zealot butchering in the name of the corpse emperor grows him stronger.
Also seems kind of odd that the Ad Mech suffer the Votann to live, but maybe navigating the galactic core is just really hard or something.
>>546176108They are scared of the imperium finding out about more than just their AI. The imperium doesn't actually know they are abhumans and just tolerates them because they are human-ish and amicable enough to work with. The votann being all clones is also a faux pas.Any inquisitor would have a field day finding a multitude of reasons to subjugate or genocide them. Bringing them to Terra is an invitation.
>>546174652What I've just noticed I didn't make clear - which provides a bit of justification for why they're so antsy about it - is that at the time the Lammasu was JUST that picture. They didn't actually have their own model. The other guys beat them to it. Legally, they could have been sued themselves for making a model that was an exact replica of their own art. You can moan about the consequent loss of 'hobbyist feel', imagination and such, but I've been shafted enough at my job over who gets credit for stuff to have at least a bit of sympathy for them there.
>>546176805On this topic, doesn't the one Votann that got bopped by the Tyranids imply that the 'Nids have a hive cluster in the center of the fuckin' galaxy?
>>546176413I know its a pipe dream but I really want an Ork. Imaging the goofy interactions makes me happy. I can see him getting along with the Ogryn because he is da biggest and da strongest. Making fun of the veterans peashoota compared to his kustom piece. The psyker reading his mind and only hearing WAAAAGH.
>>546177080It's really annoying to me that Orkz don't have psychic infiltrators that work simply because the Ork believes they're human so strongly. It could have been Drax kino long before Marvel ran it into the ground.
>>546175013You hit the nail on the head here. >>546174910It’s not like they can do anything to him lol
>>546177080you know i'd like a tide game with playable orks and lots of weapon costumization.
>>546175013>see woman>think of penis
>>546176561yeah the t'au trade them them blueberry pussy and they send them monkey models of their weapons, thats why all the taus SUPER ELITE ADVANCED WEAPON FORGED X10000 TIMES WAY MORE BETTER TECH THAN IMPERIUM is just a shittier version of Votann tech. Even their drone swarms are just cargo cult attempts at copying votann AI.
we told you not to trust the eternal swedewe told you dog
>>546176960Makes sense I guess. I guess they memoryholed it or otherwise de-canonized it by now but I remember an interrogation bit between Inquisitors and an Ethereal, so capturing and torturing the secrets out of a squat seems like something they'd do or at least something that should be handwaved, as its just too obvious a fix for a pressing and dire problem in the Imperium.
>>546176961simple solution: make a model or register a copyright for your drawing next timebut yeah, i get you, it really do be "snakes behind every weed" out there in the corporate world. shit sucks.
>>546177629All they needed to do was post a weapon concept art and the hype train would be full steam ahead whilst they delay the trailer. A single .jpg, a crumb of news. Not enough to confirm the class but enough to get the noggin joggin. Thats all we need right now.
>>546175901Or was it dialogue? Not to underestimate a visual artist, but perhaps you could change something like that a bit quicker than a week with a bit of crunch. But if you have to navigate a VA's schedule to get them back in the studio...?Anyway, we're all just talking shite until the behind the scenes leaks come out in a year or three. Maybe it IS some multi-media tie in after all. Maybe someone at Tencent thinks 18 has better joss than 11.
>>546175461True lol I don’t think they really understood the concept of a parental figure to begin with>>546176541Yeah with the UN they could stand to do with some more emphasis, though personally I wouldn’t mind seeing more marines in down time do… whatever honestly
>>546177578the votann are interesting because their slow journey to the galactic core using non-warp ftl would suggest that even the humans of year ~5,000-10,000 were more advanced than the state the imperium has regressed to by now, unless i've misunderstood something in wikisurfing their loreadmech more like adware
>>546178054It reeks of bad faith from someone involved, its just so retarded even to a complete layman.
how are you supposed to kill things like dogs and netters if you're using the rumbler
>>546172383Custodes aren't automata, but they are actual Emperor's angels. Walking saints, pure to a fault. Or so it remains at least up until we learn what Constantin Valdor is up to.>>546171359Neither can the Astartes. They are post-human engineered supersoldiers.>>546177080Imagine a Blackstone Fortress tide-game.
>>546178130Bobby G and the Lion had human daddies.Angron landed on the asshole planet and was placed in baby mma the minute he landed.
LMAO @ DELAYING A "CLASS REVEAL"ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUSHOW THE FUCK CAN YOU NOT SHOW A NEW CLASS DUMMIES>its still releasing on same date but we have to delay A FUCKING REVEAL by 7 daysDUMMMMMMIESDUMMMIES
>>546176108In "Vaults of Terra", when the throne is failing, they get this brilliant fucking idea to bring a Dark Elf Haemonculi 40k to Terra. Turns out, it's the dumbest fucking thing you could do because the DE wanted the Emperor's blood. As the Votann can produce clones, and the Imperium knows that (or at least someone does), they'd never, ever let Votann within a hundred miles of the Throne. Not after that affair.
>>546178054such a task is immeasurably complex, prease understandoits arduousness simply cannot be quantified
>>546178615ITS SNOWING ON THE MARKETING MATERIALS
>>546178615>guys for once a new class/item wasnt leaked for a video game, we need to give them time to ruin the reveal, halt everything, delay it right fricken now! code red!
>>546178615Either it's extreme marketing jewery to extend hype or there's some total esoteric bullshit contractual clashes going on.
>>546176998No, it was just a splinter fleet of Leviathan
>>546159830Ganger in the shop would be weird because of the requirement for every outfit to be unisex. Fucking imagine unisex Escher themed shop slop.
>>546178740>>546178816hate fatshark so much brosthis better be the best class I've ever seenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQAdh07mugc
>>546178407>Or so it remains at least up until we learn what Constantin Valdor is up to.Whatever it is we know E is aware of it so it’s fine>>546178612I know but most of them didn’t they at best parental guidance in some form from others
>>546178969seems like kind of a big deal considering that they're a decentralized hive mind that can use any biomass to survive>>546178661literally incomprehensibly retarded and the kind of thing that makes me doubt anyone genuinely passionate or competent at GW is all that involved in controlling their intellectual property beyond lawyer shit
>>546175013This just sounds like a weird projection dude
>>546178816god i hope so even if only because it means someone at GW is having a bad dayif only darktide had just been delayed a year or two and been good on launch so someone invested would finally be big enough to fuck over GW and slurp them up
>>546179151it'll be dogshit with some free cosmetics to try to win you back and you'll keep playing because anyone who's put up with their shit up to now is likely a lifer
Fatshart managed it, they disappointed me despite my low expectations. >>546114339
>>546179096>Shop?Arbites still hasn't had a single item added to the shop, btw.
>>546178661In fairness, that was the very fringe idea of a group that had to sneak the DEldar in iirc everyone knew it was dumb
whats the point of blessings on weapons if you get the exact same buffs as mastery anyway?
>>546136560this would never happen with me in charge
>>546180150Are you... retarded?
>>546179215One of the biggest culprits of Horus Heresy is Lorgar's adoptive father.
The funny thing is that either their own team that was in charge of making the trailer failed miserably to make it or the outsourced it and were given complete crap. I'm leaning towards the second since we haven't been getting new cosmetics either and those were supposed to have all been outsourced
>>546180221yeah darktide would have never happened if it was up to us
>>546179096I mean, they are yet to do it, but they could make some cosmetics have actual different variants. Like it's the "same" cosmetic and you only buy it once, but the cosmetic has a different model on male and female characters. If anyone has played it, but basically look at what Funpimps did with the Enforcer Outfit/armor in 7 Days To Die. For male characters the suit jacket is blue, while for female characters the outfit has a pink jacket.Another think they could do is making gender locked cosmetics but I highly doubt they'd do that.
>>546180331If so, once again proves the old adage.>Cheap>High quality>On time>Choose two.
>>546165961anyone please
>>546179959It still got to the point that they were in the Throne Room and everyone was at the point of going along with it until it was revealed to be a trick and the Custodes finally took action.
>>546179843Next time, sit with the laughchads: >>546152305We were 24 hours early and called it down the smallest detail.
>>546180715Most of the small updates for Darktide are made up of cosmetic tweaks so that they work properly and aren't clipping constantly, so yah. Maybe they stopped outsourcing the cosmetics instead of simply running out of cash
>>546180239Poor Lorgar
Slaanesh update when?
>>546180331If Fatshark did it internally, there is less of a reason for this to happen.If Fatshark outsourced it, there is slightly more of a reason but whoever they outsourced the work too should have been showing them progress. The final render would have happened, then compositing, and then audio engineering. It would take an insane pull for them to get that far and decide to push it with everything done. Something, somehow, caused them to push it a week.
>>546181060remember when horus spanked his ass and humiliated his entire betrayal plot before the solar war
>coop general>hmm sounds interesting>look inside>only darktide and vermintide
>>546181754I tried getting some DRG discussion happening last thread. It ain't happening boss.
>>546179215Rogal Dorn never forgot his adoptive grandfather.
>>546181754We dont get much coop slop these days. Everything I was excited for was dead on arrival like NMRIH2, KF3, Forever Winter. Do you have a hidden gem to share with the class?
>>546181754All the popular coop games have their own generals or discussion places. DT and VT are simply unpopular enough to not have their own place, but still more popular than the other unpopular ones. If you wanna talk about another game give it a try and some anons might join if they play it too.
>>546178407Read Valdor again (or just read it if you haven't). Wraight basically is the one who has dictated every single major Custodes depiction since they became a faction. He's like 90% of their sources, and so unless GW directly contradicts his work he is the Graham McNeill of them. In Valdor, Valdor very clearly has hated the Emperor since the Unification Wars he just couldn't do anything about it. He hates the Space Marines. He hates Malcador. Malcador knows this though, so the Emperor must also knows this ("Malcador and the Emperor, the Emperor and Malcador, it is hard to say who was first.") Abnett posing Malcador is a BBEG supports this narrative (which Wraight appeared to just be feeding into by having this expressed through his PoV), and then the Horus Heresy trailer that came a little while ago Jenetia Krole seems to be aware of Malcador's feelings about the Emperor and supported that position.
>>546176805The galactic core is like the most dangerous place in the galaxy aside from like the Ghoul Stars: and as much as the IoM might hate to admit it, they’re very much formidable.>>546176960They do know they’re abhumans, they’re just on the brink of rescinding that status and declaring them Xenos anyway because they piss them off>>546178131Ehh, more advanced in certain respects, but we know that they were in their peak in the 20ks so they had a ways to go
Female Fanatic's cutest thing isn't even the accent, it's her voice constantly cracking
>>546181754try fitting /coopg/ /hdg/ /spg/ and /drg/ in to one general, see what happens
>>546136560pls
Friendly reminder that the most functional Primarch, Guilliman, is also the only Primarch with a mom and dad. While one of the worst Primarchs, Lorgar, had 2 dads
>>546180239Yeah. Biggest one is still probably Erebus.
>>546183236Dorn had a grandfather and kept his robe as a blanket.
>>546181754It’s a dead subgenre buddy. Out of all the games in the OP list, those are the only ones that anyone is interested in enough to come to 4chan to talk about them. Take it up with… whoever.
>>546183387Well that's adornable.
>>546184197>>546184197>>546184197
>>546170008>The Primarchs being a tool isn't so much the issue (well, it sort of is given how he plays about how much he supposedly loves them, and designed them to love him), it's that he blames people that he is ultimately the one to blame for.Maybe I’m just drawing a blank, but I cant recall any point in time where he’s done or said anything like that. The Emperor seemed by and far honest as far as I can remember, it was just the lie regarding Chaos that was kind of egregious, and even that had an understandable reason behind it, now if you want to include lies told by Malcador and his other subordinates which I guess he technically gave fair pass on by not putting a stop to them, yeah it probably shoots up a lot.I’m pretty sure everyone would have along with the plan to turn humanity into superpeople, but again I’m completely unaware of this “kill everyone” plot so that’s not for me to say I guess.
>>546181754The majority of co-op games that don't have a general already just don't have much of a playerbase to warrant a lot of conversation. B4B, Payday 3, and Killing Floor 3 are dead. Payday 2 is played a bit, but is old enough that there isn't much to talk about I think. Starship troopers was okay, but just didn't have a lot of content, no idea how it's doing now. Deep Rock has it's new survive game, but I've heard pretty mixed stuff about it. SCP 5k has a very slow rate of development so there's not much to say there especially since it's really a beta version. EDF6 is something I've heard very little about. Forever Winter is also in early development I think. Also, Darktide was supposed to have a big reveal today and it got pushed back so that's contributing a lot to the conversation.
>>546169978ironically it’s implied the chaos gods helped create the primarchs too so in a way they were just kind of taking back their own property
>>546140183>they saw how negative people were to the idea of gangerbold of you to assume they give a shitthey failed to comply wiht GW guidelines for cosmetics and now have to remake the trailer and all the posters for DLC
>>546164453>So they're just not availableFor the time being, but for the sake of an explanation and convenience they can just it wasn’t that far away or something. >What then if the Imperium still loses?Then it’s just a loss for them both. No reason to hold grudges, just stay in contact and hope the next project they work together on goes better next time, it’s not like they’re asking the world of each other, but again this is all just so we can have a reason to explain them showing up. >But since there's no Skitarii around anyway, Grendyl will just have to make do with random Techpriests coming up to Rannick and asking to volunteer, so he doesn't need to lose anything.I agree with that. There’s not much reason they someone else can’t come along and offer help. AP is huge, and for all we know there could be a conclave of priests holding it down somewhere.
>>546183013I agree with you because you posted my wife Doro>>546183236Homofags… it can’t be…>>546183387Cute…
>>546163368>>546163392Worth it
>>546179359The Galactic Core is really dangerous, I think the assumption/hope is that it’ll sort itself out when the comparatively timy force of them actually runs into something more dangerous than a relatively minor Votann outpost
We are all in agreement that we are going to boycott and review bomb the game if the new class is some stupid bullshit like a ganger after all this, right?
>>546195537no, we're going to pretend ganger is exactly what we wanted, pretend to be gleeful at the sister of battle schadenfreude even though the sister posters already know it's not happening, buy the paypiggy deluxe edition and then act like everything is okay, because it NEEDS to be okay
>>546177353Sorry but that would be...Immeasurably complex
