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Previously: >>546171420
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Uhhh guys... Haranir are pretty SEXO actually.
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>>546221217
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>do the rogue campaign
>only quest for the class mount is automatically skipped
>wasn't even a mission table quest

What? Is Blizzard retarded?
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>log onto beta
>Play my class
>Its the same just worse
I really just don't get it
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Sex with male pandas...
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>>546221458
postam
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If you do mythic ToV without dying, does that also unlock the appearances you can get from the 1000x Valarjar Soul Fragment quest? Or do you need to do that as well ?
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>>546221217
I need to be between them
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Is Midnight beta fun?
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>there are people that paid to be an unpaid qa tester
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>>546221545
class?
spec?
worse in what way?
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they should just scrap midnight
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sup
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What's the story with these ugly ass pajama transmogs Blizzard has been spamming lately?
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>>546221835
Most of the trading post is out of place modern shit
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>they paid $140 to test the game
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>feral and arms are kino
Yep I wonneded as usual.
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>In the Haranir starting zone quests you are literally the special snowflake chosen one
Some people aren't gonna like that.
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i played with a lot of simple minded fools while pugging raids tonight
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>>546221950
What's new with feral? No more snap?

>>546221960
Most of the "I'm le heckin faceless faggotino!" wouldnt play haronir anyway.
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arator is literally max landis
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What is the point of this feature if you CAN'T EDIT WHAT BUFFS/DEBUFFS YOU WANT TO SEE????? These blue haired faggot devs at Blizzard have zero clue why people use addons in the first place!
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>>546222198
>No more snap
yes their benefits have been frozen due to federal filibustering
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>>546222230
He looks cool in 2d art, why does his 3d model hair look so bad?
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>>546221545
>devs... hate me? No no it's not possible...
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>>546221821
bad azz
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>>546221950
>he has fallen for the DUDE HEROIC STRIKE IS BACK trick
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>game has obvious technical difficulties
>bugs are beyond the scope of weekly maintenance
>blizzard refuses to ever take the game down longer to truly work on the problems
What are they afraid of? Would taking wow down for a week or two just destroy their shareholder value?
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>>546221950
>>feral and arms are kino
Feral is nigger ape tier almost ret style
Wtf are you talking about
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>>546221950
is arms really bussin???
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Vulpera and Haranir run these threads
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>>546221724
I tried druid and dk.

Unholy is obviously a mixed bag and not included in my statement for obvious reasons. Blood loses the more interesting bone shield synergies (tombstone and bonestorm are gone), fdk is a midnight spec so it's basically the same. You do get a cool animation with drw which is essentially you auto casting the venthyr ability.

Balance is just weird. If you don't take FoN or oneths you are literally hitting 2 maintenance dots+star surge+solar wrath+eclipse st. Don't play feral and can't test healers until m+ or raid testing happens. Bear is okay, probably the most improved spec of the 5 I tested, they essentially got their entire build for less points. The phys bear shit is still Abit of a WiP but one of the talents that strikes me as extremely clunky/odd is you want to maul/raze ABOVE 80 rage for a guaranteed mangle proc. I kinda was hoping for more complexity with bear but atm I feel like the best build (for dungeon) will probably be the same arcane bear build
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I look like Assumi ;)
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>dog in
>no beta
>can't get disappointed
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>>546221487
Moratari does a skip when Maeiv asks you to go recruit your last champion, so that you can do the broken shore campaign without doing the order hall campaign first, but then you still need to go do that for real to do the mount quest.
Is that what happened, or does the whole rogue quest actually get skipped and just give you the mount? Maybe that was their rogue fix for 90% of the classes' mount quests being bugged.
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>>546222460
Didn't they completely strip feral of any complexity which includes what separated itself from assrogue (snapshotting)?
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>>546222729
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>750+ delves done
>Still finding variants I haven't done before
You know what, layouts might still be the same, but I haven't given enough credit to the effort put into them.
Still could be 'more', but at least they really did turn out less repetitive than Torghast.
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>>546222645
Feral is a 3 button spec
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>>546222945
What are variants? Are they different from the stories that change every few days?
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>>546222890
I haven't even bought midnight yet.
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>>546222945
hardcore delver. hope that valeera isnt as dumb as brann
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>>546223058
Different stories, different enemies, different bosses at the end, sometimes different objectives, occasionally different routes through them to go backwards or something.
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>>546222782
The whole rogue questline gets skipped, you don't get to go to capital cities to assassinate anyone. They were probably too retarded to populate some parts of capital cities.
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>>546223180
How do I get one? I've done like 300 delves this patch and it's like the same 4 stories every week?
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>>546222889
Yes it's essentially Temu rogue
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>tell someone they play like a girl
>leave the lobby on round 5
fucking pussy
i was right
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>>546223252
Pretty sure they just change daily.
Which yeah, if you only do bountiful delves, you lower your chances of seeing the same ones because they might be on a set rotation which just unluckily puts you in the same main three variants on them or something.
I don't pretend to know how it works, I just stumble into random variants whenever I do them. Kriegval's Rest today is just smothered in Void apparently.
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>>546223079
can't get hurt, truly free.
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>>546222394
I'm afraid that Midnight might actually be a huge flop...
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>>546221217
love me some big droopers
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>>546223497
This but specifically night elf ones
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https://www.wowhead.com/beta/news/solo-delve-hall-of-fame-expanded-to-10-000-players-379227
dad gamers rejoice
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>>546222434
My wife on the left and my other wife on the right
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I can't really believe how much some specs got dumbed down it's kinda insane
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do I get weapon or shield first as prot for more damage or does it not really matter anymore (other than the defensive benefit of the shield but I'm already invincible)
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>>546222250
I'm thinking addon restrictions will be lifted in TLT if not earlier. This is BfA global cooldowns all over again.
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>Haranir racial is the same as Dwarf & Tauren but only 1% crit dmg instead of 2%
>Their activatable barely does any dmg or healing
>Zero utility in any racial
Holy shit these guys stink. This is almost as bad as Lightforged.
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>>546223591
i can't believe how sexo she is..
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>>546179461
grab a gun and shoot yourself
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>>546223543
How fast were 1000 people clearing them?
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>>546223818
uncalled for anon
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>>546223836
probably pretty fast since they 10x'd it
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The fact that you can be the top player on the planet in your spec and get no titles at the end of season because you aren't disc/mm/whatever is just so insane to me.
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>>546223717
armpit? armpit?? pitpussy bros? i MEAN...PIT PUSSY BROS? cOME ON WHERE WE AT?
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>>546223543
Knew they'd do this. 1000 for a delve boss would of gotten completed in the first few hours of a patch.
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>>546223836
>>546223954
You can't even test it in the beta bro.
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>>546168441
its not a backflip
and the reason is obviously, because they reused their skeleton
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pretty good place for me house
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>>546224096
i seen night elf players say they are victims of the frat boy culture due to bfa, they all deseave worse then that fucking tree burning
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Legend has it that whoever can stop maye from masturbating will be crowned king of /wowg/
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>>546224204
the horde housing area ended up better then the allaince i am kind of stuned
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>marks dead
>surv dead
>destro dead
a-at least unholy isn't completely dead, r-r-right?
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Unholy Won
Demonology Won
Enhancement Won
Devourer Won
Both Frost specs Won
In other words, I (me) Won.
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Burn amidrassil and repalce all player nelf models with perma wisp form.
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>>546224509
those are some pretty good specs, how's the ghouls instead of blisters on unholy
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>Hmm I'll do a random delve as Windrunner spire seems to not have many people in it's queue
>Get in
>Fucking Arcway
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Post sloppas
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>>546224293
wtf does that have to do with my post
and the tree was gross, I'm glad its gone
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>>546224405
Called it from the start!
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>>546224497
>>destro dead
good
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>>546224497
Well it's a lot more about summoning than disease now but it's alive I guess
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>>546224853
what do you have against destro anon
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>>546224717
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>>546224769
the allaince area is just the4 zones around stormwind, where the horde area not only had duratar but barrens/mulgore, and the ashura zone looks like nrothren ek enough to be ok subatude for undead and blood elves
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>>546225037
Same dude
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cloudcraft
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>>546225007
You play a class that can summon demons and curse people to death, yet destrofags would rather larp as knockoff fire mages.
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>>546225176
um my fire's green and mages' aren't
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>>546225007
It's too OP in pvp and survives being trained far too well for being a target that can not ever be allowed to freecast. aka not fun for anyone to play with
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>>546225176
>entire spec built around spamming fuckhuge blasts of barely contained pure fel magic
>knock off mage
every caster is a knock off mage by your standards retard

>>546225294
>pvp minigame
understandable anyway
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>>546225037
Yeah, that's pretty much why I called it. The first images of the zones, oh fucking yay, more Elwynn looking. Eventually seeing Duskwood didn't make it look better either.
Horde at least had a very Autumn looking woodland area, so it wasn't just retreading Durotar. And it still looked a little more rugged than Azshara. It actually looked somewhat like a new zone.
So I'm happy they followed through.
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>WW and BM monk are exactly the same but with less buttons and weaker random procs
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Make Delves infinite floors
Let me design my own AI companions
Make Delve floors procedurally generated
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>>546225484
At least they didnt get the gutty gut 5000 that other specs got
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>>546225486
>Let me design my own AI companions
At the very fucking least, let me use someone from my Warband!
An AI version of an alt would be great!
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>>546225709
>doing dungeons with your warband
We're not reading for this level of kino
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>>546225484
Is ANYONE happy with the state of their spec in Midnight? This feels worse than the start of BFA when they took away all the borrowed power from Legion and only gave us azerite armor to replace it.
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>>546225486
>Let me design my own AI companions
let me use my own alts as party members for delves, dungeons and outdoor content.
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>>546226026
Clearly not, because as I recall we were supposed to have that be the idea for follower dungeons before they just settled on literally who's lead by black lady paladin from the Alliance start scenario.
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do void elf demon hunters have any unique customization yet
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>>546226070
nta, but I'm happy with how WW turned out. Tho I've always hated SEF.
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ELE lost
BM lost
MW lost
Brew lost
there's nothing for me but to play the new spec I guess
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>>546226512
>ELE lost
I feel like I won though
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>>546224717
Haven't you had enough?
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>>546226287
They need to fix WW procs. Dance of Chi-Ji doesn't add bonus damage anymore so you are casting a free Spinning Crane Kick that does less damage than a Blackout Kick.
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>>546221950
greenest pov so far
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>>546226593
who could have enough of this?
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>>546226593
Never, where did all the slop anons go?
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>>546226593
>bukts of
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>>546226070
>This feels worse than the start of BFA when they took away all the borrowed power from Legion and only gave us azerite armor to replace it.
Not worse than BFA, more like a WoD.
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>>546223704
They get 1% damage to abberrations beasts and elementals.Guess what the voidspire has alot of?
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>>546226657
You can go down dance of chi ji completely now tho. Can go all in on blackout kick!. Will probably do that for raid anyway. And without lightning build, we'll probably be going back to strike of the windlord + slicing winds build anyway.
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>>546226534
>ele but instead of build tempest and spam instaprocs you just build tempest
Wonned how?
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>>546224082
>Use data from previous delve
Simple as 1k is like 2 THDs clearing it on their split characters
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>>546227206
Mandated to stop posting porn. Its over.
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>>546227509
Not worth it when tauren/dwarf will be getting an extra 1% dmg against EVERYTHING compared directly with haranir.
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>>546227602
>Tempest
I play farseer and like Lava burst
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I only play belf and forsaken
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>>546227714
>Everything in the raid is void
>not worth it
??????? 1% damage is better than 1% critdmg
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>>546227567
Even after all this button pruning why the FUCK does slicing winds still replace serpent kick? I pray that it isn't meta just because it feels so fucking bad to lose a major mobility button.
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>>546227206
Tired.
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all the youtubers were saying midnight kino was making all the specs feel like absolute kino...

what happened?
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Is there any gain in leveling professions this late into the expansion?
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>>546227909
me on the bottom
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>>546221545
You don't understand we need to get consolechads over to our game
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>>546227878
that is really dumb. I guess slicing winds was used as a mobility tool during plunderstorm, but it's buggy as hell to get any distance out of it.
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>>546222250
It's hilarious how much faith some faggots have in blizz when the ui is still barebones 20 years later. This shit is going to suck, but the boomer dads will shout down any complaints.
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>>546227990
They get paid
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>be hm tauren
>have 1% damage bonus to everything at all times plus 0.5% reduction from all sources
harry potter and the get fucked, eat shit harronir
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>>546228279
It worked in plunderstorm because it had such a low cooldown. You could freely use it as mobility then quickly have up again for any fight.

The issue with the WW version of slicing winds is it's a 30s cooldown big burst ability. So you never want to use it as mobility since you'll be destroying your own dps in the process.
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>specs finally in a good place
>have to dumb everything down so retards who can't spend 5 minutes learning their spec can play it out of the box
I have mobileslopification fatigue
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I miss plunderstorm...
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>>546228989
you think you do but you don't
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>>546228989
>>546229071
I also miss Plunderstorm.
I am glad its not a perma thing cus it WOULD get old and become stale/dead, but I greatly enjoy it when its active. It is one of the most fun things theyve done in terms of wow side content.
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>>546227768
Yes but removing thunderstorm can never be considered a win, shaman should be revolting over losing such an iconic ability
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FemDuin
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>>546227805
Hate to be the one to give you this reality check little guy but you do not play this game at a level where that 1% will ever matter
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>>546229291
anduin is femduin
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>remix cheevo still not fixed
Jesus fucking Christ
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OHNONONONONONONO
YEARS LATER AND NELFSISSIES ARE STILL SEETHING
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>546229387
What is wrong with them?
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>>546227206
https://litter.catbox.moe/kcl0qs.png
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There is a VERY precise spot you have to be on to like, get to the world tree you want.
>>546229225
Thunderstorm?
You mean the spell that knocks people away?
I still have it
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anyone got the link to where all the sloppas are stored?
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>>546229567
Oh nvm you're right I misread thundershock being removed
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>>546229638
There isn't such a place
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>>546229693
Thundershock? What the fuck is thundershock?
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>>546229387
Which one?
>999 limits unbound not giving that achievement, have to do a 49
>all class campaigns
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>>546227990
They got paid to hype and lie about Midnight. All that matters is expansion sales and as long as they trick you buy one even for the beta test, they win.
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Ominous
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>>546230019
Makes you think why expansion costs like $100, right?
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How's arms in beta? Need someone that isn't enamored like
>OMG WE HAVE HEROIC STRIKE HYPE!!!!
Since looking at the talents and seeing a slam spam dot build being possible is a fucking nightmare.
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>>546229939
Class campaign
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>>546227990
Are you really going to trust people who personally suck Ions balls?
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>>546229926
talent that makes tstorm knock up instead of away
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>>546230419
So iconic
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I hate these talent trees so much
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>>546230517
you're right they should bring back the old 'niller trees
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>>546230320
It's funny to watch Max play the alpha/beta because you can tell he wants to rip Ion a new one at any given moment but has to hold back so he can continue getting special boy privileges from Blizz. He HATES the state of Midnight and especially the ingame addons.
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>>546230517
you're right they should bring back legion trees
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>forever home
so classic+ is actually real...
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>>546230138
you are not going to get an answer from a sane person on this general
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>>546230771
Ion also basically confirmed in the Midnight QnA that more new specs for existing classes are being worked on. This dude is bad at being subtle.
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>>546230771
>give home to classic players
>intent since day 1 is to bring them back home to retail
nothing ever changes
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>>546230610
I feel like bc was the sweet spot. You had more options and less dead nodes than vanilla, but wasn't quite as bloated as wrath, but unlike these new ones you could actually do different builds and weird hybrid shit like split feral or 2h enhance windfury with spell damage or all sorts of shit

These new ones feel like....like the illusion of choice. There are lots of nodes, but you fill almost all of them automatically, there are very few choices and even when there are there are also clear obvious winners, and you can't do any interesting hybrid spec shit like the old old trees
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>didn't get my hero legs again
FUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>546230771
>>546230928
Reason why beta feels like classic is to get classic players to retail...
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>>546222250
what's the matter, worried you're gonna lose the ability to play simon says?
lmao you shitters would get rinsed in a skill based game
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>>546230909
>>546230928
if they fucking go the osrs route i'm gonna fucking nuke my account. they couldn't bother fixing retail, letting it become so shitty and gay, but they want to give classic players actual vanilla-like content
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I think it's fine to let vanilla players suffer
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>>546231181
Classic streamers suddenly being interested in OSRS isn't a coincidence. There was 100% a leak about classic+ playing like OSRS that they caught wind of.
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>>546231181
retail makes blizzard more money so i dont see it happening anytime soon. it's their main focus.
classic has always been somewhat of an afterthought and potential pipeline back into retail
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>>546231504
Classic funds the company you delusional retailbab
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>Classic funds the company you delusional retailbab
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>>546230909
they dont need subtlety, they need hype. if anything i think more transparency as to what they're working on, barring story spoilers, would do them some good
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Post a song that relates to your character's current in-roleplay mood, and explain why they are feeling this way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoKluzn07eQ
With the botched removal of the Sha of Hatred, the Sha of Despair and the Sha of Doubt have redoubled their grip on Aya's mind. Sensing that their reign is a precarious one, they are attempting to destroy their vessel rather than allow her to be purified. If they can not have the champion of Yu'lon, then nobody will. Is this the end of the road for Aya Ya? Tune in next episode to find out. This truly is a war within...
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>>546231669
Classic era has more players than retail, it's completely dead
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>>546231484
i'm gonna 100% going to quit if that happens. i would feel scammed
>>546231504
>retail makes blizzard more money so i dont see it happening anytime soon
for now. classic+ would be retail wow but without the baggage. i can see retail slowly losing players to it, especially when most wow streamers already main the classic version of the game
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>retail players complain about pruning
>but they would TOTALLY play an even more braindead version of the game
KEK
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>>546231628
>forgot that majority of wow players are on retail
>forgot the shop
>forgot
many such cases
>>546231929
>losing players to it
that's if their classic+ is going to be any good (i have no hope in it desu)
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>>546229357
Thats not an argument, and not even related to the post. The whole argument was their racial sucks when it just does not
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>>546232048
people who care about class complexity are a minority. most players would prefer a better rpg over complex classes. i can totally see players swap to classic+ if the content is interesting
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>>546232173
to do it once because classic literally offers nothing else
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>>546222250
Caustic splatter isn't tracked by the nameplates at all despite it being one of the most impactful debuffs in the game mechanically. Dishonest freaks like >>546231106 should just shut-up
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>>546232173
I think players will be desperate to swap to any other version of WoW after Midnight kills retail.
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Midnight looks like a massive flop...
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>>546232265
>to do it once because classic literally offers nothing else
this version of classic, not the one that's supposed to add more and more content
>>546232296
>I think players will be desperate to swap to any other version of WoW after Midnight kills retail.
yeah.
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>>546232296
midslop is the transitional period. TLT will be fully classic+ with northrend unlocked
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>>546232173
Wait these 2 things feel contradictory, isn't more options and complexity BETTER for an action RPG which is why PoE mogs d4 for example?
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>>546232461
nta but wow used to not feel/be like an action rpg and more like an actual rpg but online (mmorpg)
some players want that back over class complexity
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>>546222250
Blizzard doesn't want to overwhelm players with a big list of all player spells to filter yet will pull up the dictionary of every icon in the game when we go to make a macro.
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>>546232461
I haven't played poe but I was under the impression its systems complexity wasn't executed through having 2 dozen GCDs you need to press
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>>546232461
>isn't more options and complexity BETTER for an action RPG
you can get complexity in other ways, you don't need classes with 40 buttons and 100 apm to make a good rpg
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>>546232461
Yes but blizz is aiming for the boomer crowd who hasn't honestly liked wow after it changed 18 years ago. so everything must be dumbed down for them. and not in a good or engaging way. autoattacks will do all your damage, healers will press 1 heal then stand around doing nothing for 5 minutes, raiding will be so braindead that any geriatric with a mostly functional brainstem can participate. also don't forget to swipe and buy all the cool mounts and mogs and pets and particle effect wings so you can look the coolest in town idling next to the other 50 guys who bought the same exact thing the second it hit the shop.
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>>546232380
unironically, it doesn't look great. so many things are either rushed or have the monkey's paw effect
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>>546231807
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCu_YK6yPE&list=RDgFCu_YK6yPE
Void Elf Death Knight who overcame the power of Death and defeated the Lich King and now a new power claims to corrupt him and destroy his home?
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>>546232824
why is everything so rushed? it's like someone told the devs 5 weeks ago to completely change whatever they were initially planning to do and get it shipped in 3 months
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>wow winning bigly in every way
>doomjeets just making up fantasies to fudpost about.

you subhumans are so insanely pathetic.
like it is amazing how demented you are that you spend your whole lives obsessing, not even about wow, but about your schizo bizzaro world version of wow that is even real.

You are so insane that you are fixated on a meta-fantasy version of a fucking video game, which you don't even play.
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>>546232793
There is no middle ground since they have to artificially overtune the bosses so the 2 guilds can earn some money. After that the raid has to fit hall of fame guilds that need 2-3 sets of nerfs to kill it in 2 months. After that come the normal 300-800 guilds that take up to 4-5 months and only after that they can tune if for the casual guilds that have to carry their holy priest girlfriends. There's no winning.
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>>546232427
more content is not going to make me play the game more especially if more content just means more raids
at the end of the day youre still just going to raid log in classic unless they add shit like m+ which at that point youre not playing vanilla anymore
you guys dont want any form content that keeps the people playing
dailies? nope
collecting shit? nope
achievements? nope
arena? nope
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>>546233092
microsoft wants wow to be as profitable and accessible as possible.
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what beta server are you retards on?
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>>546233182
>dailies? nope
>collecting shit? nope
>achievements? nope
>arena? nope
that's all retail shit.
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>>546232590
>some players want that back over class complexity
but there hasn't been a distinction for why those 2 are related, like obviously having more keybinds does not mean your ability to roleplay is worse (unless you are typing mid combat i guess).
>>546232642
Earthshatter is technically more mechanically complex than a few wow specs but thats pre autoexertion support.
>>546232696
Okay lets stop using hyperbole for a second (no class plays at 100apm with 40 buttons). Where do you draw complexity and nerf it? Boomy for example is made even dumber and smoother and that spec is already for dumbo and smooth brains (we are going into an even less complex version of boomy than the legion versions).
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classic plus? +++
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>>546222250
I don't know how pvp or simply playing a dot class is even possible without nameplate filters. I've been using this addon for years and am praying it doesn't break in Midnight. I know that even if Blizzard adds nameplate filters ingame it's going to be extremely restricted on what you can add/remove from it.
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Best spec for soloing remix?
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>>546233247
is that gonna happen though? nobody seems genuinely excited about midnight besides housing people and how far can housing carry the expansion? I'm getting shadowlands/wod vibes all over again and a lot of people left during those expacs.
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>>546233247
Yet they've failed to make any version of WoW as accessible as vanilla. Dropping a player into the desert to kill 10 boars has been far more successful at pulling new players into the game than taking them on an epic quest with Jaina on forced tutorial island.
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Hear me out
What if instead of making shitty xpac
They make the game run better on modern hardware?
Have they thought of that?
Barely 60fps on low setting farming infinite power in the Broken Isles
That's disgusting
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>>546232793
>autoattacks will do all your damage
Melees are 6% of my dmg on beta
>healers will press 1 heal then stand around doing nothing for 5 minute
Yeah look some healers are radiating abit of that energy but thats definitely overplayed.
>>546233135
>There is no middle ground since they have to artificially overtune the bosses so the 2 guilds
So okay this is the thing right, this is BARELY an issue (and chances are you have never ever touched this issue), people here unironically were posting how forgeweaver M is gonna be impossible for average joes (turns out its very easy). The thing is right these bosses do get fucking GUTTED by gear and often by additional mechanical nerfs before most people touch them. The thing you can argue is on the aspirational end where "this boss looks impossible so i dont want to try", nevermind the fact the boss is functionally different.
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>>546233543
i think the point is that they want the game to feel simple and easy to get into again.
class complexity and how a class feels is what you're introduced to first as a new player.
every class has some complexity that turns most new and former players off the game.
not to mention there's so much content bloat that it overwhelms and confuses those players, so why would they play that over something easy like Classic?
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>>546233474
and that's exactly why your meme version will fail in the long run
nothing to keep the players engaged
the only ones still playing classic right now are parse monkeys
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>>546233893
>any version of WoW as accessible as vanilla
You mean wotlk right? Vanilla wasn't as accessible as wrath.
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>>546234179
vanilla, tbc, and wrath was mostly the exact same starting experience until they fucked up everything in cata.
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>>546233767
Probably a tank class
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>>546232824
>>546233092
Game feels like it's been rushed since BfA 8.2 and forward.
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>>546233998
try buying a $2k gpu and $400 cpu buddy
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>>546234253
How is
>go into a cave
>mob runs away in fear
>pulls 2 mobs with him
>die and spend 3minutes running back
more accessible then what wrath started and cata really did well which is make levelling more fun and streamlined?
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>>546234126
No I understand what blizzard is attempting, and its what they did alot in WoD and the class design was so heavily criticized for it and the game shrunk. I'm not talking about them changing enhancement in whatever way because thats an exception to rules, im talking about them taking pretty simple and easy to pick up specs and bastardizing them.

Also talking about new players picking up the game and a lvl 1(or lvl 10 rather) is the most unfun experience ever, and I genuinely think they have managed to make levelling feel less good than it did in lets say MoP era.
>like Classic?
Can i get a general check on this one
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>>546234381
It's a 21 year old game.
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I don't think Blizzard are dumbing down the game to get new players into retail directly. I think they are dumbing it down so the peabrain classic streamers can finally handle retail and THEY will be the ones to bring in new players.
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>Log onto beta hpaladin
>drag items to bar
>go fight some quest mobs holy shock twice judge and then ????????????
How is pruning crusader strike making the game more "approachable"
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>>546234365
I still think the BfA release felt good because it was the work of the original devs and their gift to players and nuBlizzard devs. However ever since they took over the game has started to feel rushed and poorly made. The original devs gave the new team the chance to continue with Legion and Sargeras's sword but they never did anything with it. Instead they focused on the meaningless Azerite stuff and content was cut into TWW and Midnight in case of emergency.

They worked on Shadowlands during 8.1–8.3 and we all know how that turned out. All the LGBT+ and trans content appeared right after the new devs took over and Dragonflight was especially bad.
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>>546235468
>b-b-b-b-but it's less buttons so it's better!
^some blizzard employee probably
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>>546221458
they're just fat night elfs with weird hands and feet
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Probably just a beta thing but they've removed the level from the characters in warbands
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>>546235808
why dont they replace it with your titles seems like a no brainer
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I am kind of excited to have raiding not be bazoots and bazingos nonstop
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>>546234641
>general check
im talking my experience, classic felt easier to pick up and put down but retail has obvious better QoL. i haven't touched classic in a long while.
>specs
i agree that specs have been absolutely gutted. they ruined my sub rogue by making it feel sub par while requiring so much input that it's absolutely retarded. they need to fix classes, specs and class/spec identity. a whole rework.
>levelling feel less good
when they made levelling a hurdle and made endgame the main game, it's going to feel that way.
they also fucked levelling in WoD because forumtards were complaining that MoP levelling was way too fast and purposefully slowed it down as WoD came out and then they complained it was too slow.
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>>546235630
>Completely remove melee from THE melee healer
>Quazi_soyface.png blizzard did the impossible!
>ai generated background
Honestly its been very pilling the streamer coverage vs the reality. Im not against simplicity but its gotta be fun.
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>>546235808
I really hate the warband screen
I like to take a look at my characters individually and up close
you can drag them out of the warband screen and leave it completely empty, but then it just resets when you restart
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>invite 30xx io players to my weekly 10 key
>they mount up on their 3k mount without fail
>they completely ignore the affix and fuck us in the ass nonstop pretending like they weren't pushing 10s just yesterday
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>>546233041
>and now a new power claims to corrupt him and destroy his home?
That's every expansion.
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>>546236596
True but only Death and Void have actually defeated and branded him, so it's personal.
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>>546236553
>be me
>Do 1 single weekly key for a box
>only a 10 is up because retail is dead
>Forgot the affix exist because it doesn't exist in 12s+
not hard to understand why
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>Raise Abom just gives you an abomination in Army instead of replacing it
Woohoo
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>do a delve on beta
>valeera is in
>valeera dies 4 times in a single boss fight
ol'brann wouldn't have done that.
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Not a lot of spells
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>>546236890
Where is flamenova and flameshock, you need that to do your CMs
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>>546236890
let me guess, you need "more?"
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>>546235808
i just wish they'd make it so that if you hide UI on the warband screen it actually hides everything
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Do you start at max level in beta or do you have to level?
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reduce buttons, diversify gameplay through utility and rotations, scale content difficulty through the use of that utility and the timing of the DPS. It's as simple as that guys.
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>>546237065
Flame Shock is the ability on 4
>>546237074
>you need "more?"
Not if I compare it to TWW enhancement
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>>546237074
Yes i do
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>>546237287
Lmao so they just do the flameshock and lavalash combo as a separate keybind, surely you'd rather KINO like flamenova instead
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>>546237258
Utility is one of THE most bloated things in this game and is the source of why alot of things get stupidly unmanageable. Remember rogue used to be the control KING and now its a fucking peasant.
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>>546237518
Good.
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I started a priest yesterday on lemix but have no idea how to play it and starting with 10 abilities unlocked makes it harder to do my keybinds
I'll make another paladin or dh I guess
Or should I play retail up to level 10 so I can have a grasp on how to play this shit?
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You can't say wow wonned without wow
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>>546237518
Yet they culled like 3-4 dps abilities from each spec but only like 1 utility spell from each
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>new tier set seems kinda cool then they use the hideous rubber fishmonger boots asset for the shoes
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So excited
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i am under the influence... of anons fem nelf dh
and so i made this... https://files.catbox.moe/u2d1s4.mp4
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>>546238415
we used to get tcg mounts as twitch drops...
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>>546238415
160p minimized HAMMERS UP!
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>>546238415
This is like anti advertisement.
>put up twitch drop the day the beta goes live
>the beta is what all the retail streamers will be doing
>beta is a total fucking disaster that doesn't work
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So what do we think of the changes to mage in Midnight?
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>>546237739
shadow priest: apply vamp touch/SW pain, then use mind blast, use devouring plague when you have enough resource. shadowcrash for aoe once you unlock it. then mind blast and mind flay as filler, mind flay low priority unless you have some surge of insanity procs (the mind flay button will glow and get a new icon). aoe damage is dealt to targets with vamp touch, so make sure vamp touch or shadow crash is on your targets before doing anything else

holy: use heal and flash heal as needed, and holy words serenity and sanctify to pick people up from low health. use prayer of mending on cooldown. holy doesnt really come online until the last few rows in the talent tree with shit like divine image, lightweaver, trail of light, etc. it might be helpful to take prayer of healing before you get the talents in those last few rows and hero talents, but once you get to a higher level a lot of people skip it.

disc: use PW: shield in single target healing scenarios, or PW: radiance in group to apply attonement. use these often and early. then once attonements are up, use smite/mindblast/ offensive pennance for damage to healing conversion, or flash heal and allied pennance for focused single target healing. pick up the lights promise and enduring luminence talents ASAP, they make life much easier. apply SW pain and spread it via pennance once you get the encroaching shadows and revel in darkness talents

with both healer specs, you'll get a series of 1.5-3minute aoe heals or shields. use these as needed when the whole party gets slammed, dont be too precious with them. you'll also get single target cooldowns like guardian spirit or pain supression. these are used when you expect big damage to come in like a tank does a multi-pack pull or you or a dps is about to eat shit. healing priority should be you-->tank----------->dps. if you or the tank die, its a wipe 98% of the time. but you can get through a lot of encounters without a dps or two, if you have to choose.
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>>546238415
I can't even tell what kind of suit it is. Only it's violet.
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>>546238912
It's a recolor of the stupid pajama mog
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO REMOVE THE FUCKING KEYS ALREADY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>only three realms for beta
>it's actually just one big realm
>put every region on those three
>wow guys we didn't expect the lag
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WoW should be a roguelike game with random talents and abilities and powerups
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Hehe
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>>546239184
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>>546238415
>>546238727
>but look how many viewers just for beta test!!
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>>546239184
Already a thing
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>>546236417
>it just resets when you restart
Works on my machine
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pvp gamers getting the good colors again
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Why did they turn Turalyon into a raging psycho?
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>>546239754
given enough time every blizzard character turns unhinged
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>>546239754
the fuck? paladins can't dual wielding
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>>546239754
He's a white male heroic figure.
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>>546239876
>paladins
>he doesn't know
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>>546239754
>Orgrim's POV
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>>546239754
It's part of his journey to be a better man.
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>>546239754
why does he look like Benevolent Cucumber
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>>546239754
Is this young Turalyon? Where did you get this?
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>>546239754
ALL MEN ARE EVIL
BE BETTER MEN
DO NOT BECOME LIKE HIM
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>>546240114
>ALL WHITE MEN ARE EVIL
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>>546239876
Turalyon is multiclassing priest/paladin.
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Xal'atath
>before
>after
What happened?
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https://files.catbox.moe/gfoycr.jpg
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>>546240383
Too many feetfags could not see her as villain
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>>546240384
It's never futa
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>>546239754
Nowadays a masculine man cannot be a positive role model.
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>>546240458
Some of them are, some of them are not.
I am equally fond of both.

https://catbox.moe/c/vdm27a
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Post Femthyr
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>>546240782
I'm sorry but blizz didn't make any femthyrs. There's nothing "fem" about their body type B.
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>>546240782
>>546240848
True, femthyr posting is just AI shitposting.
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>>546240383
somebody will create porn of it
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there any way to upgrade tww to heroic/epic editions outside of a physical ce?
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>>546240383
How are we so certain that it is her?
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>>546239754
The orcs killed some old fuck he barely knew.
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Got anything cool in the vault anons?
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>>546240943
can't you do that through the ingame shop?
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>>546240383
>Another character turned tranny
OH NO NO NO!
>Bro she was alwa-
No she had a female voice and was refereed over and over again as a women.
Cope and seethe Axe Wounds.
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>>546240383
Isnt that the delve nemesis?
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>>546241023
i only see the midnight upgrades and game package
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>>546221471
>>546240383
KEK
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>>546240383
While I am not opposed to xalath becoming a void blob because I am sick of the safe horny feet shit, but source?
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>>546221471
Blizz had enough of your webm every thread, so they've turned Xal'Atath into a void blob. Thanks for nothing anon.
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>tfw void blobussy
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>>546240383
eating dimensius went straight to her thighs
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>>546238040
Yeah I know its extremely questionable(maybe your trying to intend this as a gottem). Also pruning 1 cc ability of 4 is much more impactful than 2dps abilities of 12. For example in TWW, dh has 1st stun, 1aoe stun, 1 fear, and an incap, along with meta stun (questionable utility), for the game to exist where a DH can't control a pack at infinitum there needs to be ALOT of casts. It also kinda makes pvp a massive clusterfuck as well. This means packs will be made to match a certain level of control.

Going into midnight M+ which has really yet to be seen if this will be a thing but im gonna be pleasantly surprised if it isn't which is prestunning mobs on important casts that they will autocast. We did this in legion with the cats in CoS and a few other mobs over the years but if they are moving this direction I wouldn't be surprised if it evolves that way.
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Someone post THAT webm
You know the one
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>faggots were gooning at dude feet
lmao gayyyy
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>>546241757
>gooning to feet in the first place
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Im almost convinced Tankiety isn't a thing that niggers here and on reddit push as being actually a thing. Friends I have IRL and friends that play other games like shooters/league etc when they play wow for the first time they just go in and play and not worry about bullshit like routes or consumables and just have fun, even when made aware of such things they had no issues doing 12s. Im convinced people who build up doing 10s as some kind of ordeal are straight out of a fantasy or people who have never ever played a video game in their LIFE
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>You can own two houses
>They're not faction tied but neighborhood tied
>One in Razorwind, one in Founder's
>You can port to both at any point in time
That's cool
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>>546238860
Man that's complicated for a dpsbrain like me...
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>>546242013
When Towelliee is considered an above average tank and hes 1 5mg melatonin tablet away from going unconscious at all times, you know that every single person building up tanking being scary is quite literally just looking for an excuse not to do tanking (boring role) and maybe can't even admit it to themselves thats why they don't tank.
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>>546241740
Here you go sis
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>>546241740
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>>546242684
>>546242713
delet
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>>546237739
Shadowcrash/mindblast/voidtorrent/shadowfiend/voidform/voidbolt on cd and dont cap insanity.

It is literally one of the easiest specs in the game and is an EA midnight spec for years.
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>>546242013
Damn this nigga has a constant flow of league friends trying wow for the first time going straight to tanking 12s
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I liked her old design more desu.
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>>546242802
Nta but does that mean you don't use SW: Death?
What about Mind Flay?
Also Halo?
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>>546242870
it is kinda problematic and sexist, no woman IRL looks like that
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>>546242870
no longer canon I'm afraid
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>>546242684
>>546242713
God, why is this so bad? Did they made some unlucky intern make this "cinematic"?
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>>546242870
This is dudes ass
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>>546242954
Well we're playing a FANTASY game, it shouldn't be too realistic or all the magic will be gone from it.
>>546242969
Yes, and it's a damn shame.
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>now you remember all faggots who were gooning to xal ai slop
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do worgen and vulpera run with their mouths open to stay cool. this isn't a kink post i'm genuinely curious
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Thankfully they won't be able to retcon Alexstrasza as trans
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>>546243185
Did Blizz start making this ugly shit so that Chinese would stop stealing their art?
Kinda occurred to me since this looks like some run of the mill gacha slop, only without appealing character, it's that thing.
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everyone looks back in those hyper real cinematics.
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amalur.fandom.com/wiki/Hironar

1- is what Hironar look like in Danuser’s other game

2- is the other race in Harrandar

It’s literally “let me put more of my old work in wow to supplant older writing”

I DONT WANT TO VIEW IT LIKE THIS BUT WHY DIDNT THEY CHANGE COURSE POST 11.0
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>5:30 AM
>Still can't actually load into Midnight areas
Really great call having the entire world on 3 little realms.
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So did any of you betafags try warrior yet? How is it?
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>>546243160
Yeah they probably do
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is beta getting actively ddosed or having 20 second respond times on npc dialogues and spell casts just normal for this gay ass jeet company?
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>>546224717
good
>>546225035
good
>>546226593
kys
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>>546244159
it's literally just everyone is in the intro quest/eversong woods. all the lag goes away the moment you go to one of the other zones like Zul'aman
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>>546244159
That's how blizzard servers are, laggy pieces of shit that are about to break down just like the game itself
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metzen's kino in the last titan
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>>546244261
mission fucking impossible, i've been trying to accept quest for 7 minutes now, fuck it im out
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>>546242916
You can hit swd if it glows and mindflay as last priority
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>>546226070
FUCK YES, WTF

T. AFFLI LOCK
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>>546242824
Not a constant but my league friends literally were mythic raiding in a guild together after starting wow like a month or 2 prior
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>>546242752
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i keep running into the same dps player in my rdfs despite being on a populated realm and queueing tank
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>>546244570
But 9 billion betatesters...
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>>546244159
I'm pretty sure it's because of character transfers and account data added on top of a new transmog and housing system having to update and award retroactive housing items. Beta has basically never been as bad as what it's like in isle of quel Dana's a few hours ago
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>>546244570
Coincidence anon, take your pills please, delving to much with muradin may cause alzheimer
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>>546244731
npc remain an 'unknown' entity for like 3 minutes before interaction becomes possible, mobs just evade every attack and attack even happens only after 2 minutes i click the spell, feels like downloading 5mb porn video over dialup in 1996, i'm gonna cum and go to sleep before it happens
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>>546243778
I'm gonna main it soooooooooo
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>>546244876
If you just wanna hit something q follower dungeon it runs normally
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destro, mm, ret, or fury for a shitter to hit 2400 blitz? I'll do shuffle for conquest first so I don't fuck up my mmr
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>>546245168
nah i just wanna progress the story and submit my feedback on how i hated it, unable to do so
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Is beta playable for those without Mid night prepurchased?
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>>546245241
They put your feedback in the bin without even looking at it.
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No, the beta is not playable for those without Mid night prepurchased.
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bro really asked if the beta is playable without prepurchase
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>>546240383
Drinkin that troonshine
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>>546245628
>here's your old world revamp
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>check out discipline coz i haven't touched it in a while
>this makes Penance do that
>that makes Penance do this
>Penance does more after this and that
>etc etc

uhhh cringe
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Why did they forget people hated disconnected expansion maps again?
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>mad
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>logged in on beta
>transfer my char
>can't fly
>transmog not working
What the fuck
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OH MY GOD DID YOU GUYS KNOW THE BETA IS UP????

I'm so excited to try my class omg I just tried it and it's sooooo kino omg! Too bad it's going to be different again in 2 weeks so this was completely pointless haha oh well i'm in the beta guys doing quests i'm going to do again on retail and exploring the city i'm going to have to explore on retail again haha such a waste of time oh well just beta things I guess!
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>>546247076
Look at this idiot struggling with his inner torment over the purchase he shouldn't have made for a completely pointless phase of game.
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>>546247076
Nooo you don't understand I want to be free QA for Blizzard, and I want to spoil myself so nothing is new when the expansion actually launches, and I want to play with it all being various states of fucking broken or unfinished.
I want to pay Blizzard for this experience too!
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>>546247354
What? Yeah of course I prepurchased midnight but I have no inner torment, i'm not playing the beta cause it's pointless and retarded. I'm mocking people who are playing the beta due to how pointless it is.
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>>546221217
>almost 20 chapters of campaign
long ahh campaign
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>>546247076
>she didn't get to play beta torghast before blizzard pozzed it
It shows anon
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So did they just give Beta access to everyone? I'm in, but I only preordered the standard version of Midnight.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1ouwed0/i_asked_ion_if_any_classic_server_had_a_longterm/
>ion responds to random people molesting him in minutes
APOLOGIZE
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>>546247530
>Mocks people for playing what they paid for
>Prepurchased and doesn't play it.
Yeah, they're definitely the idiots.
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fellas is it pointless to play a video game for fun
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>>546247828
Not pointless, just illegal.
If Blizz catch wind of you having fun, they'll destroy the thing you like!
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>>546247651
Are you fucking bragging about not only playing shadowlands beta, but fucking TORGHAST? That's like the biggest self own i've ever seen.

Honestly the only beta I played was Wotlk, it was kind of cool at the time and i gave myself the cope that I was learning the quests so I could speedrun them on launch. Questing is a joke now though and server first max level achievements don't exist so can't even use that cope anymore.
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>>546247959
Imagine criticizing anyone else for anything and then typing this
>>546247959
>I was learning the quests so I could speedrun them on launch.
violently pathetic anti-fun mindset.
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>>546247787
Yeah, they are. They're playing an incredibly broken barely functional version of the game that is going to get erased, none of what their discovering or learning right now will be relevant on launch, and their feedback will be entirely ignored by blizzard.
They are most definitely idiots. I prepurchased it because I WILL play it, you know, when it actually comes out.
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>>546248102
Quests and leveling were a lot slower and "harder" back then so yeah that's why I did it. It was still pretty retarded and pointless which is why I said I was clearly coping.
Shame you can't admit you're a retard for doing it now though, instead you kick your feet at me like a child.
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>play beta 24/7
>burnout
>seems pointless to play on launch day again
>quit and come back when The Last Titan Beta is out
Why are they like this?
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>>546247948
Unfortunately this is 100% accurate
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>>546247786
Seems like a dumb thing to do. Was he bored or something?
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>>546248257
Better question is why are YOU like this anon?
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>>546247786
ion gonna get flooded with emails now kek
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>>546248354
>Ion has an AI assistant responding to all emails from unknowns senders with nonsensical garbage
>reddards drooling over it "OMG ION HIMSELF has responded to my email guys OMG OMG"
Please don't tell me you believe this email is actually Ion responding anon.
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>>546248569
I wonder who is more schizo and retarded, the retard that emails devs directly or you.
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acting like children that try to poke an old man
based wowo retards
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>>546248569
If the email is real and he actually had an AI assistant then it wouldn't take this long for a post like that to show up. Besides AI would write complete nonsense and might make even make promises they can't possibly keep lol
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>>546248670
>>546247786
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wowo players be like

:O
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>>546247786
read it with Ion's voice lmao
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>be on nexus king
>get to p3 almost every pull
>people still die to spikes and fail stars

How does one kill the boss?
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>>546248257
>boughted TWW with beta
>a bug would brick your character so you had to start a fresh one
>it happened too often
>also they took out the option to boost to max level to make people test low level content
I still feel like an idiot for falling for their trick.
The 3 day headstart was fun though, but again, not worth the money.
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>>546247959
>, but fucking TORGHAST? That's like the biggest self own i've ever seen.
Beta torghast was good, real roguelike vibes and was fun. Getting to floor 86 was fun i was running at the speed of sound.
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>>546247959
NTA, beta torghast was a 100floor roguelike dungeon that was wow flavored. That fact you think its a self own is very grim, they completely butchered torghast in the last couple of weeks of SL, the shit like the different wings and stuff didn't exist at the time.
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>>546249051
The 3 day headstart is totally worth it. Beta is retarded but I bought the epic edition just for the 3 day headstart.
TWW 3 day headstart actually blew my mind with how nice it was. The vast majority of people in the 3 day headstart were decent players same as myself so you didn't deal with any retards doing retarded shit. No people doing healer levels of damage or anything like that. it was actually like if they removed all third worlders, troons/egirls, and dad gamers from the game, it was just all competent people. Also best time to make gold.
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>>546249590
This. There were no wagies or kids also.
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wowo wawa winned bigly today
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So any beta cucks here who tried VElf DH customization? Do they get any new stuff?

This is important, I don't want to waste time leveling a Nelf if that's the case and I'm away from home for the week on a shitty data plan.
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>>546249590
Not much happens in the first 2 weeks anyway, I got the epic edition but I wouldn't mind if they removed these
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>>546249352
>>546249559
I'm saving all of those pics and videos but I don't even goon to them. What's wrong with me
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>>546249689
Yup. No trannies, no pet collectors, no useless egirls, no zoomers, no dad gamers, none of that shit. It was a brief game full of asmongold types, and it was heaven.
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>>546249859
>he doesn't have an unlimited data plan to play beta
ngmi
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>>546249936
>Do a dungeon
>Its fast as fuck and wall to wall
>3 day period ends
>Healers cry about me pulling to much
>DPS do no damage
>Servers start lagging
I cannot stress how comfortable launch was
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>every remix group I join has multiple 999s and people over 700
had no idea this game had so many unemployed players
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>>546249936
Assmongoloid is a fake persona and he doesn't play the game. Dad gamers are the worst scourge in the entire game.
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>>546250551
>over 700
that's easy-ish to get to
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>>546250551
I question why anyone that is 999 is still doing raids.
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>>546250831
It's very fun when everything just pops when you press a button
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>>546250551
just do a bit of m+ and your vers shoots through the roof.

dont need to be unemplied
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>>546250551
Over 700/740 is not even vaguely difficult.
Thats just someone who actually does raids sometimes. Like not even every day if you do the raids on myth each for like 5 days you'll be above 700 and probably close to 740.
Just like do stuff, and you get drowned in gear.

999vers though thats tism.
Ive gonna somewhat hard, no grinding/farming/frogging, but ive done class hall quests and a bunch of raids and I have two alts at 740iL/200vers and see no reason at all to go further. Have 40 key done, mythic raids are trivial.
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hey guys
I'm doing that questline with danath in the arathi highlands and femthrall tells me about what happened there prior with marran and the 7th legion
is that playable? was that the pre tww event? was it in a novel?
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>>546250551
Im pretty sure wagies are 999 if they just logged in after work on remix every day consistently. In fact im pretty sure a world tour is netting over 10 levels now, not saying that wagies ARE (because what the point really), but I dont think 999 is hard to get with how much a raid sweep gives you.
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Can some lore nerd give me a rundown of Xal'atath lore?
I didn't touch DF and TWW at all, but now im forced to do a questline before i can unlock VElf DHs in the beta and genuinely wondering why the fuck she's so horny for the player character
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>>546250831
Afaik you still get stamina.
That much I gathered from the weakaura displaying vers on everyone - when you get 999, it swaps to health.
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>>546250486
That was exactly my experience also. The 3 day really filters out a lot of the shitters. I hope midnight 3 day is just as comfy.
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>>546251350
>rundown of Xal'atath lore?
picrel
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>>546251350
in BFA( note not DF or TWW) we gave her a body
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obese towel consumed a large amount of food on stream
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>>546249936
>asmongold types
unemployed, living in filth, bad at the game?
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>>546251256
never mind
it was in some faggy audio novel
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>>546251464
Oh yeah i remember that, gave her the corpse of a random void elf
Thats it?
>>546251420
Figured someone would try to be funny
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>>546251369
I hit 999 almost a week ago and I can't imagine the amount of autism required to grind fucking stamina. I already have 400million HP in M+.
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>>546251256
>Arathi Highlands was Alliance territory
>Hordeniggers barged in
>in BfA, Arathi Highlands was a Warfront
>Alliance won that canonically
It's just one of the retarded nu-writer moments.
More to come in Mid.
Judging by the twitter posts, it's pure nu-writer slop from now on.
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>>546251694
If you have to ask, you wouldn't get it.
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>>546251721
>>Figured someone would try to be funny
then laugh you faggot
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Please don't discuss asm*ngold in this thread. He has no relation to wow whatsoever and is off-topic to this thread. Let's keep things civil, please.
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>>546251882
I know about BFA, thats not what I asked about
it was a pre TWW story, I already looked it up, its an audio novella
but the red dawn looks still interesting, as a human supremacist organization, even if they get defeated
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>>546251902
No, im upset i have to grind garbage drama quests in retail for content in a fucking BETA
THAT DOESNT EVEN COPY MY ACCOUNT DATA CORRECTLY
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY VOIDWING BLIZZARD
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>back in MoP
>ToES guild run
>OT doesn't like me
>starts calling me "fat farty faggot" in our private tank chat
>come back from bathroom break
>everybody giggling
>officer's gf says "yo, triple F!"
>they keep calling me it even after he gets kicked for being an asshole

>valentine's day alone again
>finally had enough and snap at guild leader
>"hey triple F! happy birthday for next week man I-"
>mute him and start speaking
>I really don't know why you all call me triple F. that fucking asshole James called me it a decade ago and none of you ever let it go. I've been to meetups and (mutual friend) said it to my face. you talk to me like I'm fucking nothing and you don't do it to anyone else. everyone is so nice to me and I feel like they genuinely like me sometimes but I can't understand why you'd think that's okay
>voice cracks, tearing up too hard from decade of abuse
>just leave the call then gquit with my dignity in tact

>today
>see someone from old guild in Legion remix
>check discord while appearing offline for nostalgia
>months worth of messages of people saying they miss me and they hope I'm safe
>literally all of the people I *thought* were my friends messaged me on my birthday last month
>girl who I used to call mom took a pic of a cake she baked me with my actual name
>same officer's gf messaged me day I quit
>OT told them triple F meant friendly, fun, feisty
>asks what it really meant
>already stewed on it for 13 years
>already cried infront of guild lead and packed up
>too stubborn and autistic to go back
genuinely too autistic to even have a basic conversation with guildmates about an acronym
thinking about just ending my life this game was meant to be a refuge not a reminder that I can't function in a neurotypical's world and will suffer inside my head until I die
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>unit frames still don't show overabsorb amount
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>>546251721
ye pretty much she just showed up and shes like this. If it isn't blatantly apparent someone on the writing staff is safe-horny (important distinction) for xally. I cannot stress how cringe I think the whole xally toes and bossbitch shit is and completely ruins the characters gravitas
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>>546251721
in DF she stole a knockoff Dragon Soul and then spent TWW going around various places sucking power into it until she absorbed Dimensius and fucked off to void dimension
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Any tips for starting now? I only played a bit of classic, and not very far (only lvl 20). Is it worth it?

And before I download I wanna ask: Why do you guys all play/prefer Retail? I only see classic players hate on it but idk why since I never played it outside of the free trial. But I remember hating the starting island and the bad impression made me play classic (also that mop classic was the version I saw as a kid but couldn't play due to a lack of PC).
I'm just in search for a new main game that's actually fun
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>>546230517
the fuck is that
is this some hidden/secret talents
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>>546252218
yeah its the hidden clique talents. You need to enter the discord code to get it chuddy.
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>>546251919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea06UWDBiMc
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>>546252032
>i have to grind garbage drama quests in retail
why?
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stupid sexy pandaren females
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>>546252212
>I'm just in search for a new main game that's actually fun
Keep looking
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>>546249352
This nigga out here single handedly saving the thread.
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>>546250831
Bronze
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>>546252252
fuck me im never getting the hidden megagigaop talents
why even bother with this game
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>>546252280
You need to finish the Dimensius questline to get a followup questline in the Beta for VElf DHs.
I wish i was joking.
>>546252151
Yeah its pretty blatant that its a writer fetishizing something
I actually like her design and voice, which makes it all the worse to know she will be filled with dogshit writing
>>546252209
kek thats funny
Wish i could join her, im getting majorly tired of the dogshit redesigns they keep doing for DA GOOD GUYZ (Alleria, Arathor, Anduin bla) and every character so far has just been annoying as shit
i guess the AnaFromOverwatch Broker thing is alright, but thats tied to Shadowlands so ew
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>>546252517
for what? the 5-10 mounts worth getting?
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>>546250551
That shit shouldn't be treated like a brag but a mark of shame. Like leave the house you sweaty ass poopsocking dummies.
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>>546252620
>You need to finish the Dimensius questline
lol ok
have fun testing
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>>546252628
don't ask me nigga, ask the autismo NEETs doing it, I just answered why they're doing it
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>>546252517
You end up with way more bronze than you can ever use at that point. I've still got 7 million after buying everything possible so far.
I'll probably just dump it on a few hundred decorations that I won't use.
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>>546252074
Professional help, seek it.
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>you can hide all hotbars
KINOOOO
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What the fuck is this shit man. I cant even fill a bar with healing spells i use now
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okay so beta us out now what the fuck do i invest my gold in to become the richest on my realm?????
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>>546253271
>STOP MAKING THE GAME BETTER REEEEEEEEEE
This is all i see when i gloss over posts like these
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>>546252074
What a story! I'm even a bit sad it never happened.
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>announce damage meter at the start of alpha
>still doesn't work
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>>546253271
toys and emotes can fill the bar that you use before rimming tanks at the start of a dungeon
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>>546253458
Okay ill bite elaborate
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>>546253537
>still doesn't work
please understand, it's literally their first time in 20+ years having to code an actual damage meter themselves, they have no experience with this, an uncharted territory really
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>mother forces me to attend weight loss group with her
>get on scales first week
>370 lbs
>fast forward an entire week spending neet bux on fast food (save 15 dollars for wow sub ofc)
>take a gargantuan shit before i go again
>look in toilet bowl
>blood and what looks like bloody chunks of my anus wall heaped atop the shit
>trying not to pass out as i get on the scales at weight loss group
>360 lbs
>blood trickling down my legs
>mom has been waiting on me all day, making me food and tea
>saying i shouldn't try so hard to lose weight that i injure myself
i feel bad but she's actually proud of me for once
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>>546253537
>Blizzard gets rid of addons
>doesn't even make functional replacements for them
>still designs game with current retail addons in mind
I told you guys this would happen.
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>>546253537
stupid cowposter
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>>546253701
have you tried limiting calorie intake? i legit didnt hav a single shit in 12 days when i was on 1500 calories a day, then a fucking pebble came out
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>>546253537
>>546253803
>Pay for Alpha
>Alpha
>Expecting things to work
>Come cry to Lituanian Brothel Forums
A retard and their money are easily parted, the old adage proven true once again
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>>546253856
Sorry we don't speak whatever the fuck that is.
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>>546253271
works on my machine
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>>546253968
Typical eurogay.
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>>546253954
Beta is definitionally feature complete per old definition of beta, but that word has pretty much lost all meaning.
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>>546253613
What is there to elaborate on? Less button bloat is a good thing.
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damn beta is so ass, i give up, shitty default ui doesnt help either
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>>546254010
>uses chain heal and healing rain
They are worthless talent points by the way, they do less healing than healing wave if you read your tooltips : ) its just like retail.
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>>546253954
>He thinks blizzard will get this stuff working before launch
lol
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>>546254178
that's only for an specific build of farseer
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>>546254136
>bloat
Care to explain why those buttons are bloat?
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>>546252736
Yeah, its gay as fuck
has to be on a 80 VElf too
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>not taking your time reading all the quest text during beta so you can zoom through when it hits live
ngmi
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>>546252858
When do we get purchasable decorations? Beginning of december, when housing releases?
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>>546254350
how absolutely retarded
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>>546223282
Kek awesome. The theme song immediately started playing in my mind.
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>addons broken
>replacement addons don't work
>common UI addons broken
>said UI elements are a broken mess
>no actual new feature
This expansion is a certified skip
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>>546254271
Oh no thats without considering talents your thinking of retail when you say that.

Chain heal total spell power value = 584%
Healing Wave total spell power value = 733.824
Healing rain Total spell power value = 510%
Healing wave also has the best talent augmenting it, as well since WW exists, and the best coefficient increase you can get on chain heal is a whopping...like 100% extra spellpower?.

Also farseer synergises with apex while totemic does not. Basically its completely fucked and is beta but these changes were just bricked for rshaman anyway with the removal of important high power talents like high tide basically means chain heal is worth absolutely nothing.
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NOOOO MY ADDONS AND BLOATED UI
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>>546253537
It's a good thing, damage meters are cancer
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>>546254930
>tuningspeak in beta
bro...
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>>546255049
day 1 beta*
when does raid testing start
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>>546252858
Start stockpiling on the stuff you can sell like this and the Big Red Raygun, then
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Anyone playing a Velf DH is getting kicked from my group and I don't care how much you cry. You either play a normal race or you do your weekly delves alone like a fucking loser, not getting into mplussy or a raid ever.
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>2 big final bosses that won't be available to testing (Alleria and the Naaru one
Zamn, gonna be a fun RWF with 2 300+ pull bosses
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>>546255312
Finally some goon content with kul-tiran women, I was thinking no one does it.
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>>546253857
these are so cringe man
atleast make her do something instead of just shaking left and right
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>>546254305
For the record I know that you already know and you're an actual cunt for making me go through the motions of explaining a basic concept to you that you already understand and are feigning ignorance for the sake of arguing.
Button bloat is just too many buttons that don't need to exist. With the modern game having so many utility buttons, general class functionality buttons such as gap closers and interrupts, cooldowns, macros, and miscellaneous clickables like combat potions and mounts, classes simply do not need more than like 5 core combat buttons. If you have more than that things get clunky and annoying and the spec is better off with some pruning.
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>>546255319
>spoiler
Um what, Alleria is evil now? How the fuck are they going to explain that one?
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>>546255049
Whats wrong with tuning speak when its relative to your buttons. Thats actually really the best conversations to have because it isn't fixed by a simple aura buff and has to be intentionally changed. Chain heal needs something LIKE high tide coming back to be worth pressing and even IF high tide didn't come back and they buffed chain heal by 2x its current spellpower it'd still be in a very wonky spot (you would be just mashing chain heal until your mana said no which has never been a good playstyle either).
>>546255156
next week
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>>546255535
>Alleria is evil now? How the fuck are they going to explain that one?
void corruption?
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>>546255535
corruption/domination/mind control and its going to be a lesson about how even the strongest of us (woman) can succumb to the void.
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>>546255502
No you didn't explain why my missing buttons are bloat though, you just explained what bloat is fuckwit.
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>>546255590
>>546255605
But this is just shit
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>>546255502
>classes simply do not need more than like 5 core combat buttons
Anon he posted 3 buttons so you would be therefore agreeing there needs to be more buttons not to be a complete hypocrit.
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Few weeks ago i decided to put nude version of this as my desktop and my mom visited yesterday. Since i live alone it slipped my mind what i have showing and i just kept my pc on as usual. Today she sent me message asking she didnt want to ask face to face but why do i have naked wolf lady who is cooking on my pc screen. Please wtf do i say
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>be me
>have long balls
>try to tie them in a knot as a joke
>succeed
>suddenly enormous sharp stabbing pain in balls
>panic and sit perfectly still
>flares up like a kettle of boiling fucking water on my balls when I try to move
>left the phone in the other room
am I going to fucking die
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>>546255729
yes
but in case of alleria, I mean, it was clear it was gonna come to that since Legion, when she let a literal dark naaru into her
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>>546253857
HOW ARE YOU SO BASED???

how do you do these

do one of me >>546238419
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>>546255729
yes, and were you expecting anything better from the HR department of writers?
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>>546255892
"She's hot"
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>>546255694
I don't know your specific case bro i don't play whatever your resto shaman build is. My explanation is a blanket that covers all classes and specs. They all suffer from this issue which is why every one is getting pruned, your spec included.
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>desist this inflammatory speech
I'm literally going around stopping people from committing hatespeech
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>>546255319
More like 500+ pulls now that there won't be cheat auras
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femdwarf wife
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>>546255892
well this is most funny shit i read in while. just tell her you like worgen pussy
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>>546256064
they are literally drawing parallels to people on the right complaining about having their free speech taken away
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>>546255852
Anon you might want to get your eyes checked cause there are 8 buttons in that screenshot and that's obviously not even all the buttons of the class/spec it's not exactly an honest screenshot taken in good faith.
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>>546256061
So you don't know yet you felt to comment its a good thing?
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>people hate the login screen
This WorldSoul Saga is a never ending disaster.
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>>546256307
Yep less buttons is a good thing. get over it.
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>>546255915
Well I don't want hot elf chick to become a villain
>>546255982
Yeah that one is on me, I put too much faith in blizz "writing" team
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>log into beta
>my class feels amazing
we’re so back
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>>546256327
Actually the only thing the complains show are the amount of new/returning fags that don't know the login screen phases
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>>546256064
>>546256226
metzen was supposed... to save us...
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im beaaaaaaaaack
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>>546256360
>makes your spec completely unfun and is at a large consensus throughout the community on every youtube comment, forum post etc on rshaman is commenting how unfun it is
>yes this is a good thing
good to know
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>>546256381
shes not really gonna be a villain, its just a way for her to be a raid boss, after the fight shes probably gonna go back to whatever she did before that
probably a bit wiser and not letting any void entities into her body
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>>546256398
This for all shaman specs so much this and we're still only level 80.
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>>546256360
we did pruning in WoD, it sucked
we did pruning in Legion, it sucked
we did pruning in BFA, it sucked
fewer buttons does not make anything better
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>>546256414
he even read the audio novel that told the backstory of that questline
he was always a cuck
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>>546255892
But she's not naked. I bet your mom is that one anon that constantly whines about "porn" being posted when it's clear as day that pics posted aren't porn in any sense.
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>>546249352
damn this is good
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>>546256484
Yup. Less buttons is a good thing. No combat addons are a good thing. Cleaners UIs are a good thing.
People who disagree with any of this are simply wrong and retarded. It's not a debate it's just a fact. Ion has pulled the trigger and you literally need to get over it or quit the game.
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>>546255892
Just tell her worgen women are besto
I don't think anything more need be said
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Devourers don't get void eyes.
Void Elf DHs don't get void eyes.

Disaster
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>>546256663
Unfathomably based opinion.
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>>546256405
I like this more than the final one
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>>546256226
>humanity first
>it was just a joke
they're even drawing parallels to america first and how "racist" statements are often justified by saying "it was just a joke"
its so blatant
I haven't played for 3 years, thank god I'm only checking this out on the PTR
what a bunch of faggots
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Apparently the burning of Teldrassil was a major factor which pushed the Haranir to join the Alliance and Horde.
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Shivarras are hot.
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>>546256553
Whoever writes blizz's articles is at least less retarded than you and can acknowledge that previous pruning didn't prune core rotation abilities but just removed class utility and flavor. Like removing power word fortitude for priest or piercing howl for warrior doesn't effect your core rotation.
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>>546256886
>join the people who inhabited the tree that you were living under
>also join the people that burned it
genius writing
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>>546256405
I don't know, just don't show unfinished bad product?
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>>546255892
based?
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>>546256886
>lazy blizzard "writing" is lazy to the point it contradicts itself and no one in the "writing" team gives a flying fuck about it
color me shocked
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>>546256956
is that ff? Or Gw2? Can't tell
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>>546256405
The login screen have been soulless trash since Legion, fuck off
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>>546256951
they removed heroic strike in WoD you fucking retard
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>>546257003
Then you would complain that there's no new login screen
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>>546257076
Given how ugly it is it's ff anon. Gw2 has a bit of visual style to it, it's not that soulless.
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>>546256886
But... the Horde were the ones that burned it...
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>>546257083
>since Legion
cata and mop were terrible too
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>>546256886
>man the burning of teldrassil was such a horror, it really affected us and made us realize we need a more active role in the world in order to protect our trees and planet
>.....so we're going to join the evil horde faction, the ones who targeted and burned the tree down and did it just for funsies, half of them don't even feel bad for it by the way
Makes sense
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>>546256886
>We **literally** to protect the World Trees
>We are joining the faction that completely burned down a World Tree and millions of innocent people

It's beyond retarded, it's absurd, it makes no sense.
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id say it smells fishit
but this shit
>reecks
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honestly the last acceptable login screen was tbc
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It's pretty funny how blizzard keeps adding the blood color scheme as the elite PvP set. It's the one spec that's like, not allowed to PvP. Kek.
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>>546256886
>>546257021
>>546257154
>>546257208
>>546257229
that only makes sense if the reason to join the horde is to keep an eye on them
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>>546255502
>5 buttons
uh excuse me? why have five entire fucking buttons when you can have three and achieve the same?
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>>546257132
More like replaced with wild strike but this argument is over buddy. I said my peace. You literally need to get over it or quit the game. Either way just shut the fuck up nobody cares about your troglodyte ass crying about less buttons.
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>>546257132
Umm chuddy not for le prot warrior!!!!
Though in all seriousness who remembers the monstrosity that was WoD arms?
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>>546256886
lets face it, it never makes sense for neutral races to join opposing factions
you'll end up fighting your own people
especially for the pandaren, who do it during a major faction conflict, it always seemed retarded
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THEY TOOK MY HECKIN BUTTONS
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>>546256886
>>546256968

>Teldrassil was a tree not blessed by the aspects
>roots grow down into your home like a bunch of squatters
>forced out into the greater world and find the people that kicked out the squatters
I dunno, makes sense to me.
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>>546257314
This is too dumb even for blizzard anon
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>>546257320
>3
Make it play like vampire survivors but also make my character move like a robot to dodge all the mechanics
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>>546257469
DEY TAKING OUR BUTTONS OH HELL NAW
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>>546257520
more like too smart for them
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>Midnight pruning is WoD pruning

Why? Why are they doing the same fucking mistake again? Are they going to fix it again in the Last Titan aka Legion 2.0? Why?
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>>546256615
he literaly said he has naked version of this pic as desktop. learn to read moron
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>>546257569
WE WUZ BUTTONS AND SHIT
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>>546257628
Wod Pruning was not a mistake. The mistake was not reworking classes at the same time.
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NO! NOT MY BUTTONERINOS!
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The Horde did not burn Teldrassil. Sylvanas did. The Horde then fought against her as did the Alliance. It makes perfect sense for the Haranir to join either of the factions that fought the person that burned down the tree.
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>>546255892
i wish i had balls so have worgen porn as desktop as you do
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>>546257920
What about the part where half of the horde don't even feel bad about it and actively support sylvanas?
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>>546257947
based
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>>546257920
Potato Potato
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>>546257991
that's based tho
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>>546257991
the roots invaded their land. im sure there is a division between their race on getting revenge against the night elves and then tree hugging hippies
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>>546240782
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>>546257628
This really does feel like that, but it also feels inane. Aside from a few notable specs, like Brewmaster, no pruning was needed.
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>>546222394
Holly or one of the other higher ups was completely honest about this a few weeks back. People want content, that's all that matters to them. When they took the time to put out more polished content, people quit faster. When they put out content while it's still flaming hot from the oven and bugged out the ass, people are staying subbed.
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>>546257536
sure let me just port the entire game into an engine that has physics, that will make this tab target game interesting surely since we can't actually have abilities anymore
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>>546236890
it's crazy how everything about midnight seems cool except the class gutting, I thought we learned our lesson on that after bfa drove everyone to vanilla where abilities hadn't been pruned yet.
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What's the best nameplate addon? I've been using Blizz ones all this time but I'm starting to see the cracks
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UH ACKSHULLY REMOVE BUTTONS IT MAKE GAME BETTER SOMEHOW
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>>546258376
you're gonna switch now? 2 months before the addoncalypse? TOPKEK
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Supposedly the Haranir will be able to get buffs from world trees. It's unclear if this will only be a flavor thing while they're in the area of if it works like Zandalari where you choose one to use wherever you want.
This is one of the buffs. Imagine a Horde character running about with this lmao.
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>>546257425
Me. And then we got that fucking shit show that was "spamming hamstring to proc focused rage" arms in Legion until they did that rework in 7.2.
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>>546256886
Why are you surprised at this writing?
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>>546258435
Nah there's some addons that work in Midnight already and visual stuff is mostly unaffected, anything that relies heavily on scripts is what is going to get nuked.
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>>546258452
why would a tree do that,,,? a tree nos it was da whord wot dun it... a tree nos dat whord sillvanuss was tell dem to burn it and so a tree wold not giv its remnant powah to da whord innit
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>>546256886
I think they forgot the tree was only like 8 years old by the time it burnt down.
And kind of an abomination that shouldn't have existed.
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>>546258452
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>>546258631
Are you having a fucking stroke?
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>>546258631
Epic post but the point is that the Night Elves get jack shit again while a race on the faction that burned the tree down will get Teldrassil's blessing.
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>>546258718
The writers themselves forgot that until Portergauge reminded them night elves lived in places other than Teldrassil for thousands of years and they hastily rewrote the Amirdrassil epilogue to make the whole thing pointless
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>>546258817
do u play whord? caujse u jst whord out for da whord lol get it? lol lol

>>546258867
yes dat is the pt im making r u idiot!?!?!?!
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>>546240383
you fucking fag

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=240435/imperator-averzian

he seems to be the leader of the domanaar in voidstorm
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Legion pruning was bigger than the WoD pruning you shitposters
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>>546258879
Is that referring to the DF thing that went like
>at last... we finally have a new home here in belameth
>also our other homes in darkshore, hyjal, ashenvale... and eventually we'll go back to teldrassil
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>>546259027
LAWD DEY ABOUT TA DO IT
THEY SUMMON
oH LawDy
HIM....
LawwwwwD of DeM RangZ
CAST IT ANONS
CAST IT INTO THE FIRE AT MORDOR
NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>546259027
Legion also sucked ^^
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>>546258879
So the safekeeper of WoW's Lore is someone like Portergauge? Grim
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>>546258452
that sounds more like zone wide buffs for harandar, haranir already have their racials
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>>546258631
based stroke poster
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>>546258867
lmao night elves are not the favorite toy anymore... sob sob
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>>546256886
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>>546258452
Housing and Haranir are literally the only selling point of Midnight. You can be sure they are going to be OP
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>>546259170
i would 100% prefer an autist like red shirt guy to be the lore keeper over gay gnome or ball
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How long are other expansions stories compared to Legion?
In Legion remix I'm doing every side quest and main quest, and it's just not ending. The main quest never ends.
Is anything else past Legion this long?
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>>546259163
True. MOP was the last good expansion, WoD was mediocre and without content but not bad. Legion is the worst wow expansion by far, simply because it started the nu-wow trends that plague this game till today.
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>>546258867
Oh no you faggot fucking night elves do not get to pull the "oh woe is me no attention :((((" card ever again.
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No expansion before Legion was good lol
>muh raidlogging sim
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>>546259337
>MOP was the last good expansion
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>>546259315
A ton of the suramar story is ancient mana grind and it used to be timegated and rep gated
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>>546258867
Nu-wow is about throwing out all the old content made by ch*ds and making worse versions of it with zero personality while being carried by no mmo dev being able to make better feeling gamepla after 20 years.
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fuck blizzard for removing addons
fuck you
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>>546259447
Dragonflight was the best expansion WoW has ever had.
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>>546259134
Yes, up until that point Amirdrassil is framed as the new forever home for the night elves. Portergauge, Baal, Groxi, etc. all pointed out how stupid it was before 10.2 came out and then Amirdrassil was rewritten to be a summer home for the night elves, further proving nobody in the writing room thinks or critiques any proposal and just says yes to anything said
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>>546259315
Shadowlands was longer
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>>546259594
topkek
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>>546259447
> Trannyflight is now the best expansion

kek
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>>546231081
lol Classic players will NEVER touch the trash that retail is
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>>546259337
Legion certainly did long lasting damage to this game, yes, the biggest one being M+
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>>546259447
>max tier list has dragonflight patches losing to BFA
Are you sure chuddy?
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>namedropping randoms like we're just supposed to know who they are
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>>546260170
>forced to mention streamers
Yeah, I accept your concession.
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NO AIRHORNS??? IN MY WOWO WAWA???? IIIIIOONNNNNNNNN
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>>546260170
>My eceleb says I'm right
That's nice, sweety. Now how about you use that thinker of yours and come up with a single original opinion, hm?
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>>546260531
They confirmed the audio queues months ago anon...
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>>546260531
They're built into the game now
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>>546260624
>>546260639
>airhorns for abilities
No one is gonna use that, I'm talking about raid airhorns.
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>>546260776
Anon...
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>>546258452
dead on arrival when nelf racial still exists untouched
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>game is too hard to concentrate on
is this a game problem or a second screen instagram reels scrolling zoomer problem
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>>546260776
The only airhorns available are for your own cooldowns so yeah pretty much removed airhorns, based Ion.
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>>546260982
>before wah wah! this game is too hard and bloated
>now
kek
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9USpHVmFmg

These fucking suck
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>>546260982
Yeah I don't classes to be minigames.
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BREEEEEEEEEEP
MOVE
MOVE
BING BONG
SWEEP
CLOWN HONK
SOAK
SOAK
3... 2...1
BEEP
BONG
3... 2... 1
¡BURRITO POR MI CUENTA!
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How long does it take to do the intro quests on beta I just want to check out the crafting system
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>>546261065
MY COOM PIT!!!
FEL COOM COLLECTION FOR EVERY DRAEBAE TO SLURP FROM
ONLY 12 fucks annually
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>>546261105
go play a different video game WoW is not for you boomer
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RUN AWAY LITTLE GIRL
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Still giving your hard earned shekels to Blizzy huh? Pathetic.
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>>546260996
>The only airhorns available are for your own cooldowns
for real, who the fuck is gonna use that
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HE won ... he fucking won.....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_llhddOkGw

OG WINNING BIGLY
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>>546261105
a bunch of specs are still minigames but it's good that now you can choose between more than just ret pally or bm hunter
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>>546261036
i dont get this. do you think the same people are complaining each time? or do you think it's a noteworthy observation that somebody complains in either case.
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>should be being productive
>playing wow instead
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>>546261543
Story of my fucking life
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>>546260982

The enshittification of WoW. They want the players dumber and dumber to boost their engagement.
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>>546261756
I wish my ass were that big.
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>>546261205
They changed all the classes because WoW is literally for boomers, cope and seethe, we want simple class design and that's what we're getting.
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>>546261531
yeah its the same people
sorry you're too dumb to understand
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>>546261756
Hot gobbo, my wife btw
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>2015
>game is too dumbed down! stop removing abilities! make it complicated and fill my bars up like vanilla!
>2025
>game is too hard! stop adding abilities! make it easier to play with less abilities like vanilla!

the first cycle... is complete..... see you in 4 years when they "un prune" like in sneed/dragonlands again to get people like me to spend once more.............
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>>546261543
Tell yourself that video games are exercises to stimulate your brain, improve your vocabulary and reflexes, and develop your visualization skills. See, now you are very productive.
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>>546261959
Abilities are not the problem, the fucked up interactions that force you to use was are and blizzard is removing all that stupid shit.
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tyrande x orc
jaina x orc
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>>546261872
conservatives be like ___________
these are the same people who are saying ___________
upvote if you agree
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>>546261205
>this boomer game isn't for boomers
go play cs if you want to flex your reaction speed
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>>546262104
I bet that sounded really smart in your head lil bro
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>>546261959
in legion+ weakauras were getting strong on top of having simple classes, you can't remove weakauras and still keep the schizo design of classes from dragonflight/tww, things are gonna average out imo
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>>546262064
>the fucked up interactions that force
nobody was forced to do anything, players picked to have the addons do it for them. you can track enh perfectly fine without weakauras, ive played shaman without weakaruas for...... since I started playing in 2013. You are a retard if you need a big number to show what maelstrom stack visual tells you directly.
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>>546261959
By then we can buy addons through the hearthsteel market, even custom UI skins for $4.99
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>>546262289
>nobody was forced to do anything
I can ignore the rest of your clueless post.
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>>546259447
Is this the Zelda syndrome where people always shit talk the current game and the last game was the bestest ever?
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>>546261959
abilities arent the problem, but the endless procs, buffs, interaction between tier sets trinkets enchants and shit you have to keep track of to maximize output
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>>546262087
thirsty orcjeet fantasies, never happened and will never happen
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>>546261959
They just have to do something each expansion. Otherwise, how could they justify their salaries and their presence? So every six months, they reinvent the wheel, then break it, then repair it, then delete it, then reinvent it. Ion himself admitted that they had easily found the ideal solution for each class, but if nothing ever changes, the game dies.
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>>546261065
Download Home Bound and you can look at all the decors you can get for free pre-Midnight including Remix ones and you'll notice that they all suck and are low quality, low poly trash, they're obviously focusing on the hamster wheel of crafting and grinding the new stuff and selling the rest on the store.
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>>546262439
This applies to all games blud
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>>546262561
online games*
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>>546262636
save me anti porn anon, save me!
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AIIIIIIEEEEEEEE MY BUTTENERINOS
MY MEMEAURAS NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>546262636
green pov
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>>546262215
doubt anything sounds smart in your head
class?
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>>546261756
human pov
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>>546262636
Post full or GTFO
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A toast! To Worlo Wawa!
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>>546221706
that elfin jawline is what defines elven women. the retail version looks too human. it could use a little more definition, though, but lol at removing the cheek folds.
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>>546262373
Everyone thinks that the Dragonflight era was the best era in WoW history, with Blizzard being close to players for the first time in its history.

Before Dragonflight, Blizzard was arrogant and anti-player (and also a bunch of rapists and social destroyers). Then came the blessed Dragonflight era, when they wanted to make amends for Shadowlands and the rapes and strikes. And now we're in the microsoft-trump era, even more anti-player than before, with expansions full of bugs that they never fix and poor-quality content because it's rushed.

Dragonflight was just a charming interlude.
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>>546263136
The eyes*
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>>546263069
link full pls
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class design and gameplay in df was reasonable good. a shame about everything else
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>>546256434
No...
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>>546263245
trannies
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>>546263069
toastin dis teldrassil stealin
buffer haver memeing
bimbodorei gum thjieving
no nut novmbr losing
worlo warcar!!!! wowo wawa!!!
>>546263410
+
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>>546263440
how come we never see unmodded images from this game? is it really that terrible without them?
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>liquid slurps on nublizzard's cock
>"ehrm heartsteel is actually a good thing"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TyPstqguYs
typical americans
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>>546262228
trvke
it's legion-ish complexity but without addons telling you what to do
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>>546263626
paid addons are a good thing very soon
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>>546263626
imagine watching yet alone shilling this garbage. unironically kill yourself
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>>546263626
you play and obsess over an american game. why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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Finally gotten all the mage tower challenges done. I can relax now..
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>>546263718
Love your gobbos anon
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>>546263780
grats anon
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>>546263440
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>>546258452
So Voldrassil and Nordrassil?
WOW 3 whole buffs!
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>the tattoos go over the hair
lmao
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>>546264231
quality
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>>546264231
/lick
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>>546264096
He has anger issues.
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>>546255312
janey still hasn't banned my tit's

is he ok?

maybe hes not feeling right

usually they are baned within a minnet
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>>546259447
>TrannyflightTARDS are this delusional.
kekarooooooooooooo
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>>546264231
Okay I am fucking fascinated by how they set up tatoos that this is a possibility.
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>>546264364
gameplay and mommystrasza, yes. it was the expansxion that broke systemcraft
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>>546255312
OMGSISA
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>>546264452
It added gay centaurs there for it can't be good.
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>dragonflight
>friendship is magic ending
>our feelings
>women GOOD
>men BAD
>trannies GOOD
>wheelchair dracthyrs GOOD
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>>546264384
Yeah, im pretty sure they did 0 QA as usual and just copied the tattoo options over the hair models too
also
>we gave all DHs void effects for Devourer!
>no blueish options for tattoos or eyes for VElves or DHs as a whole
cant wait to be a blue elf with blue effects in a blue spec with green eyes
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>>546259447
Wrath and MoP shat on Legion.
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>>546264642
Is it a female only problem? Because I never saw that on my male DH
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>>546264768
Yep, checked it and males dont have that issue
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when do EUfrens get beta
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>>546264557
>wheelchair dracthyrs
what
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>>546264916
there's a wheelchair bound crippled dracthyr on the dragon isles
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>>546264874
NEVERMIND, IM BLIND
IT SHOWS UP ON PARTS OF THE BEARD.
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>>546264874
Interesting, so there is a fundamental difference between the male model and the female model that causes this bug.
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>>546264874
...IMPRISONED FOR TEN. THOUSAND. YEAARS...
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>>546265070
>>546265091
Nevermind too lol
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>>546265070
You can also see it in his greasy hairs on the right.
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>>546265236
I thought so too, but thats actually just weird pixelation with the hair
i changed the tattoo color and that stayed red, so its just weird rendering from the armor behind the hair
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>>546264874
>male dh
its almost 2026 anon, you can just come out of the closet you know
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>>546264890
The beta is already up though
And if you meant "When are we getting beta on EU server where the ping is good"
Oh boy I have bad news for you buddy
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>>546265354
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT
I MADE A FEMALE DH
SOMEONE ASKED IF MALES HAVE THE SAME ISSUE AND I CHECKED
ARE YOU OK MAN
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>>546265495
Sex with megumin
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>>546263271
nothing really right nor wrong with the eyes, save for maybe what blizzard said about having them glow a little too brightly for a cinematic, which makes sense if you don't want them to be distracting when in that form of media.
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new
>>546265616
>>546265616
>>546265616
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>>546222467
i did this puzzle and it was fun
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>>546265562
She's retarded.
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>>546265560
like that hasnt already happened
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>>546251256
world of getalongcraft
marran is probably the smartest way forward with the story, but only if she actually succeeds and proves the horde will always be warmongers. otherwise there is no warcrat.
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>>546233767
guardian or DH
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>>546268589
problem is they portrayed her to be planting evidence that suggests the horde is aggressive, when they've actually been getting along with the humans, even taken in their refugees
I think its supposed to remind people of how hitler justified invading poland by pointing to a supposed polish attack on a radio station, which then turned out to have actually been done by the germans themselves to frame the polish
the red dawn are just evil nazi right wing hatemongers and without them, we could all live in peace
they also gave this joseph guy a whiny voice to make the player hate him
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>>546260383
Im not the anon and im clearly joking btw



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