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The nightmare is ongoing... >>546229575

>"Forbidden Catalyst" Update is OUT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkkV_Cb7h2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYR6GAxNBHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpxVII71swo
Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the First Update: https://sdk-page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11209203
>Yuki showcase
EN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giHC7WWGv70
JP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM9IQK2fnaU

>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming Banner
Yuki - Striker - Order - Until December 3rd

>Current Events/Upcoming Content
Galactic Disaster - Forbidden Catalysts - Season 1 | Until January 13th 2026
Guardian of the Ark - Policy Event - Until December 3rd
Galactic Disaster Dispatch - Login Event - Until November 25th

>Wiki
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Basic Guides and Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-0CaRtTTpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFkvOXO2Jg

>Deck building simulator
https://czndecks.com/

>PC Client (Stove)
https://www.onstove.com/en/download

>Reroll guide
https://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/559640

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Save Data uses a points based system. If you go above a certain threshold, your Save Data will be edited.
Source: in-game guide
https://rentry.co/cznsavedata
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DON'T ROLL YUKI SHE'S A BRICK
SAVE SAVE SAVE
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This cycle is easy.
Yuki is not mandatory despite the +50% inspiration buff.
Floor 9 is a bit tricky, but floor 10 is straightforward.

Good luck with your Dimensional Twilight, anons.
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Yuki keeps fucking bricking my deck
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Renoa WON the Kanchoubowl
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CUTE
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Hope everyone and families of whoever was involved in creating this game gets cancer, suffers and dies.
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>>546236643
kek
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>>546236721
>H
>T
>M
You didn't clear it
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>>546236797
based
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>>546236809
uhhhhhh
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>>546236721
>M
>B
>O
>H
>T
>O
Doesn't count. You don't beat the game.
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>>546236809
based director about to give us WuWa chad mc
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>>546236792
SEX CRIPPLE
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How I describe Yuki
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gaming
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Remember to click the bottom right icon!
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>>546236809
>femboy futa house
No wonder he's a feminist cuck.
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>>546236809
fake, those are not relink's cheevos
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>>546236958
what does it do?
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>>546236865
wait. thats MY steam account!
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>>546236809
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>>546236809
>>546236865
KEK

No wonder he wants to cuck everyone
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>>546236865
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK NO WAY
>Rei art was director-kun's doing all along
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>>546236865
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>546236809
>>546236865
ahahahahahah what a cuck
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>>546236865
>AI tranny game
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>>546236865
>Director is a futa enjoyer
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I got yuki and already don't like her much
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You guys can stop pretending to be retarded now, it's obviously an edit.
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nice job gooks
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>>546236809
Granblue relink achievements don't look like that. That is some weird edit.
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>>546236809
>>546236865
Hmmm which one could it be anons
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At this point, just fire this disgrace of a director, he's dragging the whole team down.
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>>546237164
The raid will continue until further notice.
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>>546236792
Mindbreak the wheelchair!
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AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'VE BEEN BAITED NIA DOESN'T HEAL FOR SHIT
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>>546237063
fyi probably should merge new codices, our old ones appear to be outdated.
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>15 pulls
Wtf, that was fast. Need comp ideas, please.
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>>546237164
it's just funposting you joyless vietnamese roach
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>>546236792
Westmacott should've been the playable combatant, not Yuki
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>>546237187
How is his steam not private lmao
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>>546237187
i would buy another pakeji if the director actually had a futagame on recent play.
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>>546237270
hello tourist
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>>546237187
>it's fake
Oh. Of course.
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>>546236809
>>546236865
Kekypow this is your game director??? ??
KEKAROOOOOO
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>>546237268
Probably Beryl because of her draw or Cassius because of Joker
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>>546237245
i hope you're not comparing her to mika
no one heals for shit compared to her, but with the right partner (and e2 for cassius/rei) they can heal chaos just fine.
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>>546237112
femboy house doesn't have futa, only troons
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>>546237164
fuck off faggot
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>>546237245
Nobody heals for shit compared to Mika. That's why Mika is a safety blanket.
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>>546237187
You’re no fun
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>>546236809
>>546237187
Exquisite bait
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>>546237295
hello!
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>>546237245
I already said this yesterday that the recommend set up will get eaten alive in Chaos, and some cucks still say nia can solo heal
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>>546237314
inb4 zoomoid asks 'whats the difference'
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Holy sexo!
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>>546237308
>>546237268
Actually I didn't see Veronica, just pick her
>>546237270
>>546237315
You know what they say about retards thinking they're in good company right
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>>546237187
>>546237187
damn, i fell for it... made me laff
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>>546237295
sup
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Yuki countdown
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Interesting. I'm already maxed out on Research Notes for the week, so this is actually nice.
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>>546237314
whats the difference
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3x Lucas
1x Nia
1x Hugo
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Why is the bird purple
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>>546237432
You won
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>>546236809
nevermind john, what the fuck is that shitty font
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Lost the 50/50 to Haru lmao now i got 2 bricks
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>>546237432
You unironically won. Fuck. I wish I got spooked by Hugo while rolling Lucas.
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>>546237432
weird stoat bro
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Is Nia better than Mika for Yuki? I'm already using Nia with Renoa
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>Yuki jobs to Chizuru
4th wall-breaking
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>>546237382
That's a child.
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>>546237245
Just get Attack! on Mika and she'll easily be a better Nia for Yuki or whoever you're using.
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>>546237382
>>546237523
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>>546237523
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>>546237382
Breed!
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>>546237420
futas have pussy
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>>546237382
Adelheid is one of the best designs in this game. Shame they decided to run cheap whore Yuki instead of pure, cute, and funny Adelheid.
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I dunno, man. Laughing at the devs—the ones actually making the gameplay—feels kinda tasteless. They're not the ones messing things up the most, that's the director and the writer... especially after what happens during that entire stream...
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>>546237517
is nia really better than Rei buffing every single 1 cost attack by 60%?
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>>546237523
and a mother soon if i have anything to say about it
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>>546237579
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>>546237609
Adelheid will be a limited 5* controller to drain JP wallets
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>Orlea is shaping up to become the main wife
holy shit...
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SEX WITH YUKI
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Nia's Discard 1 random attack at start of turn with bug out your run and make you unable to play any cards.
Youve been warned
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>Yuki
>Japanese name with katana
>Next banner
>Another japanese name with katana
holy creative bankrupt...
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Can I get all the event rewards from the new chaos from running it in Zero System?
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Smell fetish?
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Why is Haru's limited sticker locked? I literally have it equipped on Haru. Buggy ass game.
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>>546237706
Probably.
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>12 multis on Yuki's banner
>V1 Luke( AAAIEEEEE )
>V0 Yuki
-----
>4 multis on Standard( lvl 50 rewards + freebies )
>V1 Haru( Ufff, kinda useful but still )
>V0 Veronica
>Used my selector on Mei Lin
Kinda rough, but now i finally have strong Passion and Order teams so i'm feeling great
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>>546237703
Good, you should be punished for picking that trash.
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>>546237697
>he didn't foil the card with the coolest animation
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>>546237705
Our "katana girl" AI prompt generated two attractive designs, so we went with both...
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>Season 1 has 3 banners
>Season 1 buffs Second Method
I'm pretty sure one of the furute season 1 banner will be an extra attack focused combatant so they buffed Second Method in advance.
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>>546237817
Huh? 35% is what it was before too.
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>>546237703
Is the error you get, you wont be able to do anything. Skip turn doesn't work, and you cant play any cards.
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>>546237817
>Yuki and Chizuru are meant to be run together
>AoE damage with follow ups to everyone hit
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>>546236721
>Tressa
>Hugo
>Mika
>Beryl
You didn't beat the game.
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>>546237697
ANON!
>>546237696
>Hologram play
I didn't even knew this was a thing. Noice
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>>546237768
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>>546237850
Pretty sure it was 25% before?
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>>546237850
Not them, but I'm pretty sure I remember it being 30%.
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>>546237664
For whom? I'm using both Nia and Rei with Renoa. After the setup on first wave, I usually just otk the basin 10 2nd wave with Nia's ego
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>>546237850
It was 30% wasn't it? At least that's what I remembered.
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Bros i'm too tired to play. Go on without me.
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>>546237696
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>>546237875
that would be godlike
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>>546237817
Watch thighjob queen being an AP battery Veronica
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>>546237523
Ok and?
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>>546237768
>>546237883
Her design makes me want to take her panties off
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>>546236809
>>546236865
Isn't this an edit? The other two games were Slay the Spire and Civ 6 in the original pic.
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Wait so save data isn't affected by equipments?
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>>546237696
It was between her and Rin. Although Rin fits more the more visually and is even more blatantly thirsty for (you) I guess suddenly introducing her was hard
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>>546237896
Nyoooo....
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>>546237958
Allegedly not.
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>>546237850
It was 30%
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>>546237956
what do you think anon...
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>>546237956
bwo...except for gullible shitposters jumping on every crumb they can find after they got eternally btfo'd, everyone else was just having some fun
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>>546237696
The heck happens?
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>>546237956
StS is the edited on to make anons feel better
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So what is a viable team comp for Yuki?
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>>546237958
Guess not.
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>got spooked by Magna
What team is she good in? I never bothered with shield spammers before
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>Rewind turn
>Permanent black screen
>Restart game
>Screen still black
Uhh... hello?
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>>546238084
Mika Nia
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>>546237268
You'll need to level your Cassius for one.
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BATTOU
UCHI NI BATTOU
BATTOU
UCHI NI BATTOU
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>>546238084
Mika Veronica Yuki aka CZN wheelchair comp
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>>546237776
Did anyone else have this happen to them?
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>>546238108
>got stuck in the timeloop
skill issue!
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>>546237817
Hugo STONKS
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I know this might sound retarded okay? And this might only affect very veeeery few people, but hear me out
If you have Chaos Bible on someone and you're farming some simulation, but the Chaos Bible effect gets the last kill, it doesn't count as YOU killing it and you don't get rewards for that wave (it still eats your aether)
I just tested it again, and a 3/3 run with a Chaos Bible kill I got 6 yellow character exp and 10 blue exp, with another build and no Chaos Bible same 3/3 gave me 10 yellow and 15 blue. At first I thought it was the drop range diff, but no this shit is fucked.
You don't really need to believe me, just don't use the Chaos Bible okay?
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>>546238084
I'm gonna guess Magna for aoe vuln spam and damage assistance
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>>546238145
SHE'S STRONG AS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>546238108
Oops, sounds like you fell into the cracks between timelines bro, better luck next eternity.
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>>546237856
THIS FUCKING BUG WAS REPORTED OVER A WEEK AGO

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11185292
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DRUNK SLOPPY SWEATY SEX WITH YUKI
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>>546238159
>>546238207
bwos my 150 codex currency i just started the run...
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I thought this guy was supposed to counter card spam?
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>>546238185
Someone on r*ddit had this issue, try bitching about it on Stove
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>>546238108
you just noclipped into the void bro
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>>546238185
I've heard the same thing before, good to know that they still haven't fixed it yet.
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Bugged D5 was evaluated as 310 points LMAO. For reference, entering D10 only allows 130 points.
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>>546238296
The initial translation said he would. At this point I wouldn't trust anything in English until you see it function ingame.
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Okay, but what is Jenazad's opinion on Yuki?
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>>546238363
It's funny that they still haven't done anything about it.
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>>546238363
holyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>546238296
>spam cards
>Kayron
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>>546238264
Dogshit nia bug bricked my sick Yuki run

She was starting to clear screens in two attacks it was looking promising
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>>546238267
Watching Renoa in despair trying to contain the absolute thirsty unit that is Yuki was kinda funny not gonna lie
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>Captains penis is so small and inept, I really wish I could be fucking my dead girlfriend right now...
Yuki is literally begging to be raped by Captaingod(you).
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>>546238429
>He doesn't know
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>great save data fun for Hugo
>multiple god blessings
>check post run
>they fucking nuked it and put shield back in
I really want to uninstall right now.
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>>546238363
lmao, lol even
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>>546237776
>>546238148
JUST CHECKED MY OTHER ACCOUNTS, THEY STOLE OUR HARU STICKERS, I REPEAT THEY STOLE OUR HARU TICKET. ITS FUCKING GONE, I DEMAND 10 PULL COMPENSATION AT THE MINIMUM FOR THIS
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>>546226180
I'm getting this too. Help
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>>546238363
>TB was a complete meme and doesn't mean fucking anything
>what actually mattered the whole time was some hidden value that no one could even see
That makes a lot of sense actually. Explains why people can have 70k+ TB saves and be fine, while others can have 50k TB saves that get absolutely buttfucked
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>>546238108
Just tried to get on with my phone and it's also blackscreen, it's actually bricked. For future reference I guess don't rewind any turn or cards against the phoenix fight.
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>>546238497
Saar have you tried restarting your computer?
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>>546238478
You've got a guide now as to what your cap is anon even if the cap is still low as shit, you can only blame yourself for this.
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yuki doesn't seem all that op, and her kit is especially bricky at the start of the run since she relies so much on her draw cards
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Waiting eagerly for her buff.
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AYOOO wtf happened to beryl?
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>had to pity
well, at least I won the coinflip haha...
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VERONICA IS MORE FUN THAN NIA FOR YUKI
NIA IS MASSIVE BRICK HOLY SHIT
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>>546238615
Yuki? More like DOOKI LMAO
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You'd have to be an utter fool to roll Yuki and the fraudulent armchair detective over Chizusex and Izuslut.
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>>546238589
Every hot girl will have a shit kit since they'll sell regardless. Homos will be the meta to actually sell them. It's the ebin7 strategy.
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yuki pretty much needs veronica
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>>546238267
creating a main heroine in gacha, where player is collecting girls like a pokemons, and then using that heroine as a cockblock is one fo the most retarded things that you can possibly do as a gachadev. and one fo the most annoying things too.
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I kinda figured out about Beryl end turn attack bug. If you killed everything before she get to shoot, she will stop shooting for the entire battle. You must let her shoot in each turn no matter what, to prevent the bug, I think.
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>>546238363
310 points is what, tier 27?
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>>546238565
I don't really care, update the UI and show a tracker on where my current power is and give me the option to switch out cards or delete them for gold if I'm about to tick over. I'm not going to play this game if I need to have an excel sheet open to not get dicked over.
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>>546238409
He unironically said that Haru is better
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>>546238543
the rngods have taken pity on me, same phoenix event too ironically
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>>546238673
good to hear so i don't need to waste exp cards building her since i'm broke AF now
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>>546238615
Yuki got homomogged. apologems and modifiers buff.
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>>546238697
>Homos will be the meta to actually sell them
Twink bros we won
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Yuki's DMG feels very subpar
Am I using her wrong?
I use her with Nia and Veronica
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>>546238757
... So that's why she bricked multiple floor 10 runs for me. I legit though she got "fixed".
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>>546238715
does she need Nia too?
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>>546238363
I PLAY POT OF GREED WHICH ALLOW ME TO DRAW TWO MORE CARDS
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>>546238797
Her multipliers are very low and the inspiration gimmick isn't buffing her cards enough.
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The additional 10 points from epiphany here only applies to neutrals and monster cards right?
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yuki's ego skill feels kind of shit? like shuffling cards back into your deck would be ok but she doesn't even draw a single one from it.
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>>546238535
even worse, the whole value was hidden behind vague shit like "high" and "very high" which in a lot of cases wouldn't even change if you activated DT (it would go from high to high, for example) so one could imply the normal and DT had the same values, but in reality DT was adding +1 tier behind the scenes anyway
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>>546236643
DID YUKI TALK TO ANY MALES IN THE STORY
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Oh
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How important are Cassius dupes?
I just got him today
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>they designed a pure AoE character when most elites and bosses are single battles
very funny
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Holy shit
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I regret skipping Haru...

I regret pulling Yuki...
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Yuki, Veronica and Mika
Don't invest on Nia
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>>546238763
>update the UI and show a tracker on where my current power is
A sane dev would have added it in with this update already, but such is life.
> and give me the option to switch out cards or delete them for gold if I'm about to tick over
Sorry bro, card removal and swaps are baked into raising your points, no gold for you.
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>>546238880
>but in reality DT was adding +1 tier behind the scenes anyway
It might not have even done that, all of our old codexes were carried over to this patch hardcapped at 10 while the new merges can start as high as 12 lol
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>>546238797
I got the epiphany that gives her like 700% single target and said fuck it to everything else. I think they really held back on her kit in comparison to every other 5* I've used.
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Now the two of them can catfight down there forever. I don't need any more headache in my life
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>>546238916
E1 is the most important one
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>>546238927
Wait for Chizuru
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>>546238926
So is she a Church character or what?
I love her design.
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if you're struggling with making yuki work try
yuki/rei/shielder, preferably magna
vuln+rei buffing buffing her cards and drawing is pretty good with the heals here and there
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>First 2 female launch banners are partner tier
It's literally over for waifukeks. Only homogods are allowed to eat.
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is there a good dupe breakpoint for Yuki like C2 Haru?
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>>546238589
Yuki unironically benefits from cards like Attack! the most. The real main issue is that once you use her cards you can't retrieve them until after the turn ends. Else could probably keep going with Cassius and Nia.
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I thought Yuki would powercreep Hugo, but she's actually on par with Luke.
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>>546238796
uhhhh...
bros?
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Did I miss an explanation on why the dimensional tunnels look like people?
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>>546238957
Kek Renoa get tits mogged hard
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>>546238797
most of her good cards are cost 1 or 0, so I think she needs a pocket rei of light to deal big damage, or just ignore her aoe niche and go ST since she has big numbers there
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>>546238880
Why is TB even a thing then? What's even the point of have something like that? They didn't need to add a brand new line for "Faint Memory", they just needed to break the tiers into TB value and recalculate it. Like, instead of "130 Faine Memory" it could have be "130k TB" and everything else stays the same. Now the entire concept of "TB" seems like a useless afterthought. If anything, it shows how underhanded and purposely convoluted the save data system was originally designed to be.
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>>546238957
Benched thots
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>retards dont understand the concept of opportunity cost
Yuki is just a bad alternative. Fucking Veronica with giant ballista is better at dealing damage than the supposedly dedicated aoe damage dealer. Yuki does even shit damage when fighting against her element.
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so
How back are we?
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>>546238986
Yeah E2 to remove 20% damage penalty from her draw card.
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>>546239067
>Why is TB even a thing then?
Honestly speaking, now that we have the Faint Memories values, TB is unironically just cosmetic.
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>>546239061
>so I think she needs a pocket rei of light to deal big damage
She barely has good multihits, at that point just play rin. Rei adding an effective 750% damage to Rin's main nuke is so much more impactful than Yuki's 2 hit aoe. This game wasn't ready for an AOE damage dealer yet.
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Kek they are already pandering to incelpags.
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>>546238926
Would be much better with a little bit of cameltoe
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So we can go ham on equipment then huh. Also, looking at it Mei Lin might actually be the only character that can carry monster cards?
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>>546239125
We insanely won and are so back. ML game. But Yuki needs a buff.
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Bruh my Veronica is killing before my Yukek can setup. Why are our banner characters so weak? Chizuru better not get mogged by Rin.
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>>546238796
>Rentarou
Now I'll give him a chance
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>>546239183
so Incel won in the end
Cuckkek, yurifag, and yaoifag going to off themself
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you're not going to want to hear this but you need to play owen with yuki for the extra hits
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so are we waiting for Sareniel???
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>>546239170
They'll just copy mihomo again and make a mode to shill aoe. The endgame feels so fucking soulless.
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>>546238907
yeah me
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>>546238926
tall girl alert?
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huge gigacuckold here. need recommendations
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>>546239220
>So we can go ham on equipment then huh.
Apparently so, but part of me still thinks they're holding out on some information.
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>>546239253
>Shill aoe
They already do, it's called world 2 and it's Khalipe's playground. Maybe I'll go try to get a codex for Yuki there instead.
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>>546238926
that's a wide birth canal
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What do you mean "android's wife"
Organic bros, we're getting mogged by CHADvibratorMECHGODS
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>>546238958
Not too bad then
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The deck point budget calculation is fucking huge but I'm assuming the game doesn't track how much points your deck has while you're playing chaos, or the game doesn't tell you how many points adding a card/removing a card/selecting a divine epiphany is going to cost you over your current budget, right?
There's a lot of specific interactions to cover here.
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Are there any spoilers in the new update if I haven't read the epilogue yet?
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>>546238757
Thanks for the tip, you're a lifesaver
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>the kayron deck I was using that was "good enough" is zero points
Damn, this dude is actually OP
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>>546239125
We won fucking hard. Proven Male Love game by Yuki getting homomogged
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>inb4 partner
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>>546239183
cope and seethe mihomotroon
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What the fuck the new characters release feels familiar
>Haru is Selee
ST brick
>Yuki is Jing Yuan
AoE brick
>Chizuru is Silver Wolf
Good debuff
>Sareniel is Luochud
Good support
If you don't want to brick your account pull for Chizuru and Sareniel
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>got baited by fat tits again award
why am i such a coomer
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>>546239443
>inb4
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>>546239443
1000% partner, sorry bro.
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>>546239443
It's beyond obvious
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Won my 5050 and got the partner in a single 10 pull. Did i win?
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>>546239443
anon?
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Bros, Chizuru-ojou-sama is our fated wife confirmed..
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>>546239443
Rape
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>>546239373
the tutorial they just added in covers it

neutrals count for 20, elite boss cards count for 80, regular epiphanies count for 10 divine count for 20
card removal is 0 10 30 50 with +20 for a starting card
you get 30 points +10 per tier of difficulty
excludes unique cards gear and epiphanies applied to character's unique cards so all of that is fine but if you apply a divine epiphany on a unique card it counts for 20 points
Looks like gear doesn't affect the score so its kinda pointless to have missing pieces.
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>>546239427
A legitimate example of a good aoe unit that can flex into single target with multiple ramping attack % epiphanies and interactions. Best designed unit in the game and it's night and day how much care was put into his kit compared to Bricki.
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>>546239506
She sucks so not really
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>>546239474
bwo they are all going to be obsolete
except for seele who does funny 1turn
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Can they fix the post mind-break bug?
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>>546239506
Sorry bwo, Yuki is a brick. But if you like staring at her tits I guess you won.
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>>546239490
>counterattack
So the thighs android is a shielder? OH NO NO NO NO I WILL BE USING MIKA FOREVER
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>>546239506
Yes. But right now people are coping hard
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Guess I'm obligated to gen Lucas fucking Beryl now, NTRing me.
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Back to back shit banners, how is this possible? Is Chizuru going to get mogged by Tressa too?
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>>546239520
She keeps her arms bound because she wants us to rape her.
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>>546239593
>>546239490
OH, good point

I guess thighs bitch is going to be a Vanguard then

Maybe AP generator like Mika
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>>546239605
i think you're coping bwo
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>>546239541
I missed a great gear piece on my Rin save file for nothing then, great...
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So what's the consensus... is she good or a brick?
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>>546239474
>>Chizuru is Silver Wolf
>>Good debuff
Do we tell him?
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>>546239183
I mean..yeah. We can rewind time and shit..
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I really regret not pulling for Haru.
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>>546239506
The partner is great man. People are generally using her with 4 star crap here like the poor lucklets they are.
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>>546239541
What I mean is if you can simply click into your character during chaos and have a handy tooltip saying "your deck is currently worth 0/130 points" and having the removal saying things during gameplay instead of having to manually track what you're doing during the run with an spreadsheet by your side.
I still have some doubts about the cost of copying (does the copy cost as much as the original card or only the epiphanies attached to it, is the copy of a monster card 10 or 90 points), what about converting a card and then removing it, etc.
Any live information to mitigate guesswork would keep the pace going. But this is a huge step in the right direction, at least we can work out the pieces of rules we don't have by experimenting.
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She's a brick. Current basin isn't even difficult. Only roll her if you absolutely refuse to use Hugo. He's so much better than her.
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>all this time I thought the EN stream ecelebs were shitters
>it was Yuki all along who was the problem
holy KEEEEEEK
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>they arrest her for barging in investigations unprompted
>somehow ESCAPES
HOW
SHE'S ON A WHEELCHAIR
HOW DOES SHE ESCAPE PRISON
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>>546239253
Emdgames are never soulful, by definition they exist to be minmaxed garbage
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Yuki really does no fucking tenacity damage because all of her shit is aoe.
Captcha: DOA2
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>>546239725
>(does the copy cost as much as the original card or only the epiphanies attached to it, is the copy of a monster card 10 or 90 points)
Total cost of the original + dupe cost I think.
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>>546239725
oh ya that would be a godsend
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>>546239737
I went ST with her and put them together.
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>>546239786
They use to call her the drift queen back in college
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>>546239150
That's her E1 retard
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>>546238363
JUDGE THIS DECK HAS 5 POT OF GREEDS
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>>546239786
Arguably a battery-powered wheelchair would be faster than humans
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>>546239786
>>546239849
>>546239885
oh nevermind
>wheelchair goes at 300km/h
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Just did the event chaos run with Cassius, Yuki and Veronica. It was alright, but e2 cassius is iffy sustain wise, mine heals for 30 per draw. Even had shuffle with the select epip so I don't lose my ballista. I never used Nia, just noticed in Yukis tutorial that g chord is not even proccing her inspiration, so why is Nia so hyped up?
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>>546239786
That thing moves at 300 KMH (~186 MPH in burger), apparently.
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>initiative
>initiation
where the fuck did they find these retarded translators
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>>546239786
The chair deploys marbles from the rear.
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>>546239786
DEJA VU
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>>546239170
The discussion was about how to make Yuki work, anon
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Hold on, if they're going to rewrite the story, how are they gonna deal with this event story considering it takes place after chapter 5?
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>>546239916
>I never used Nia, just noticed in Yukis tutorial that g chord is not even proccing her inspiration, so why is Nia so hyped up?
I pointed this out in a previous thread and someone called me a retard and said "of course it doesn't" but I was really saying that Nia is shit for Yuki.
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>>546239725
they cost the original + the dupe cost so 0/10/30/50
a character's unique cards all are cost free though so if ur duplicating say khellipe's vulture and it has an ephiphany on it its just 0 + the dupe cost
if its got a divine ephiphany on it then ur paying 20+ the dupe cost per copy.
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>>546239936
Only the finest of SEAbros with cutting edge MTL software.
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>Korean still butthurt from release
>Korean are being butthurt again after stream
>Butthurt again after update
>They are also butthurt at other games
At this point, future non Korean game should just rangeban the country. They provide revenue, zero community content, zero discussion. All they do is complain because the game didn't jump out of the screen to felate their 1 inch dick.
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score is calculated individually for each character or it's 300 points for all 3 together?
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We know Fates themselves don't add points but what about this? Will this straight up add 20 points per neutral? Removing basic cards for free sounds good though.
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Now that the dust has settled, should I build Rin or Yuki?
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>>546239786
I'm glad I got this dork
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>>546239990
They're only going to rewrite 1-5, Trauma Codes and Events will stay unchanged.
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>>546238363
My strongest deck is 210 damn
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>>546240042
individually
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>Breadcrumbs of actual lore
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>>546239916
>so why is Nia so hyped up?
20% of her deck are the best cards in the game, the other 80% helps get you through early chaos then you remove. Similar to Magna. You want G-Chord, Adagio, Curiosity. Epiphany draw/ap on the others, maybe morale on the retain, scrap the rest.
>G-chord not proccing animation
It epiphanies into a 3 mill and you can just use it to go through your deck and get other tutors.
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>>546240030
this is why I'm not spending any money yet. game could crash and burn due to gook fanaticism.
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>>546239862
is her E2 good?
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>>546240051
Rin since she has better ST and can reach a higher ceiling.
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>>546239825
The tutorial simply says this.
I don't know if being a monster card is a considered a "point-affecting effect". The divine epiphany is clear enough. Could literally work either way. We'll have to see.

And what about converting a basic card to a neutral card and then removing your neutral and your remaining two basics. Is it worth more, or less than removing the three basics outright?
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>>546240030
at least they managed to give us free gibs, avert total shippingshit, and make nips spite-spend.
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>>546240063
eh, idk why some of my runs got stripped so ahrd then
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>>546240049
That's a good question. It's technically a fate but it alters your deck.
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>>546240030
KR spends more than Global, they earned the right to complain
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>>546239220
Huh, that's true, they said nothing about equipment affecting data.
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hmm... yuki feels like a sub dps
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>>546240121
Just like E7 and Limbus did!
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>People are unironically saying Rin is better than Yuki now
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>>546240230
Her cards are too expensive if she's intended to be subdps.
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>>546239183
Cope and seethe
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so where';s the chizuru kit leak?
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child
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Is Selena an actual character in this game? I played since release used like 400 pulls and somehow have 5 5 stars and 10/11 of the 4 stars.
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>>546240149
according to this converting a basic then removing that card still treats it as a basic when it comes to removal.
so ur still paying the 20 point penalty.
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>GachaSmack and WG is saying Yuki feels mid
bros.........
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>>546240118
Ah okay, I'll lvl her to 40 and test her out
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>jenazad is slowly waking up and realizing that yuki is total mid
I TOLD YOU TO WAIT FOR CHIZURU AND NARJA
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>>546239541
>card removal is 0 10 30 50 with +20 for a starting card
For a starting card and epiphany card* basically card removal for character cards cost x+20
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Why the fuck are these purple fuckers in the event chaos?!?!?!?!
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>>546240049
I believe it'd add the points since it directly affects your deck.
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AAAAAAAA I WANT A REFUND I WASTED 50 ROLLS
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Anyone else unable to get Yuki...
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>NOOO SHE'S A BRICK WHY ISN'T SHE POWERCREEPING EVERY UNIT?? WTF
Yuki is a standard character you god-damned mongoloids. If you wanna be a metafag so bad, save for the eventual limited support that causes mihomo levels of hp inflation and ruins the game
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>>546240341
umm just convert to her to a budget single target Rin with fraction of her damage haha.
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can i use my timeloop powers to unroll yuki
please
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>>546239987
I fucking stutter or what
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So you guys are having fun with your Yukis and all but I’ve gotten an Orlea spook.
What’s Orlea good for? Can she take Mika’s place?
Can she work as an yellow DPS?
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>>546240276
you draw to make it cheap
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I think this is a mistranslation, they don't mean epiphany they mean cards generated from ephiphanies.
unique cards still cost 10 points if they have an epiphany and 20 if its a divine.
because they made the distinction in the faint memory section about removing ephipany cards costing more
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>>546240475
She's mid bro. You ain't missing anything.
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>>546240262
She always was. Her cards are Rins but worse. If her tutor is way worse than Rin
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>>546239786
Aris sub coming through
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>event lasts 2(two) months
lamo
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>>546240476
EVERYONE is a standard character you dumb fuck. She is STILL worse than fucking Khalipe for AoE. Worse than Kayron. Worse than Veronica with giant ballista. The fuck is wrong with you coping retards. Play the fucking game
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>>546240476
>save up for limited support
LMAO subhuman spotted, I don't need to save for a character that may at best be released next year
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>Yuki is a brick
Welp time to raise my bricknun instead then.
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>>546240276
I'll be honest this is probably the one way I think she has some merit as an aggressive 0 cost sub dps similar to the best card layout from >>546240484 you just search all your 0 cost inspirations and play free cards every turn. Getting a +1 draw/ap/morale epiphany and dupe on prepare to subdue would be perfect.
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>>546240583
THEY WILL LOVE US FOR IT
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>>546240513
That's just saying that "Vivid Memory saves everything"
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>loli fem protos
just imagine...
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o... oh my god
that's a lot of damage...
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>>546238497
ok i fixed it with vpn wtf
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>>546240682
oh no no yuki bros? help?
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So what now? 10 pulls in. Do i get the battlepass for the partner?
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>>546240682
>1 cost metal
>rei amp
jesus fuck that is good
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>>546240631
>>546240501
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>>546240583
THE WANA BANNER RETURNS
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>>546240682
>Yuki is worse than Amir
Bros...
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Is anyone else missing Haru's sticker suddenly? Surely I am not the only one especially since it happened to my second account as well?
We need to demand compensation pulls
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>people are missing out on Rei Yuki tech
ngmi
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>>546240676
GIWTWM
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>>546236643
When she sees the captain alone.
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>>546240816
>adds 4 morale to two hit skill
>300 extra damage
>eeee sugoi
>pachi pachi pachi
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>>546240658
ya but what it means is it saves the cards generated from epiphanies,
but you can still have the epiphanies from those cards stripped away because the epiphanies as in upgrades are counted towards the point total
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>>546240802
i think approximately 0.3% of people who play this game have bothered to look at stickers at all
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>>546240676
>>546240824
AGP StellaFlopa shitters OUT
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>>546240851
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>>546240802
Nope, just you bro. Sorry.
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>>546240871
wanting to be the loli is oldfag shit, you dumb zoomer retard mindbroken by trannies
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>>546240802
You lost your first missable, eternally bricked account
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>>546240816
homu homu
So I need to run yuki in my renoa rei team
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I should've rolled for more Haru Mika dupes..
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>>546240865
>but you can still have the epiphanies from those cards stripped away
No you cannot, because Vivid Memory saves everything 100%. That's what it's saying.
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emotional damage
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?
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>>546240802
I heard others talking about missing stickers too.
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They really need to extend these text boxes, there's another paragraph of dialogue after this where she basically says:

>"...*giggle*, whats wrong captain did you actually believe me?
> ..........arigatou.........
>*cough* ..ehh What is it...I didn't say anything! Are you sure you aren't hearing things?"

I checked out JP text and still has the first paragraph only, so they just outright omitt half the dialogue unless you can understand spoken nihongo/gook
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>E2 to fix haru clunkiness
>E2 to fix Yuki clunkiness
30% cheaper...
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>>546240972
GAY
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>>546240972
>May I honour your cock?
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>>546240925
My Haru's save file literally still has it on, it just disappears when I got to edit it and doesn't show up.
I still have the receipts though and plenty of screenshots for it so if it comes to it I will just get support to return it to me. It's just weird it happened to both of my accounts.
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>>546240918
>I-It's perfectly normal to fantasize about being female!
I said OUT Stellatroon
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if you're playing yukishit this card is mvp, unless you're playing veronica in which case lol fuck you.
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>>546240972
>canon fat cock
>at the cost of it being confirmed by a guy
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>>546236809
>They are pissed the director plays the best gacha on the planet and the one they should steal from
Why do these gook retards think they have a 100% weapon banner?
The only baffling thing is making the MC such a beta when he plays fucking wuwa of all things.
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>>546240132
Alright thanks, I pulled on this banner mostly to get Nia finally and got Yuki in the process
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>>546240802
>he missed it
Huh oh.

The issue with that sticker is that, even if unclaimed, the game wouldn't tell you it was. I collected it shortly before the maintenance too, was about to miss it.
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I can sort of see the vision with Yuki if you basically cost reduce everything to 0 on her epiphanies. But holy fuck going through chaos with her is a slog.
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>>546241039
They're copying Genshin in more than a few ways
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>>546241138
your e2 sir?
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this beryl bug is fucking me over, bros..... I don't have anyone else raised........
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>>546241097
They are just wondering what he is doing in the login simulator during stream
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>>546241164
this might help >>546238757
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>>546241068
Have you not seen the amount of genderbending stories where the MC turns into lolis?
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>made a joke that they wouldn't make the turbo rookie mistake of changing outbreak of wat to initiate without changing initiative to lead
>they actually fucking did
>game unironically has initiative and initiate now
>for no fucking reason
Outbreak of war was one of the few things in this game that was easy to understand too, it was unironically something that did NOT need to change
Meanwhile you still don't know if the damage increase from cards are multi or add, still have ravage/break/defeat

What the fuck the TL intern is doing????
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>>546241164
damn bro and with only 20 days remaining what a shame you'll never be able to complete it there's simply just no way
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>>546241068
Stella sora as game didu nuffin but their community... is filled with agp retarded, what even causes such troonery.
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>>546240802
I am also missing it now.
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>>546241028
>cuts out the playful ML dialogue
kek they did it on purpose
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>>546241210
no? what kind of trannyfics are you reading?
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>>546241145
Ganyu deleting overworld camps at max render distance was so fun. Man i miss early genshin so much.
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>>546240887
Yea i wonder why you perpetually angry femcel. I truly wonder why i fuck Tressa behind your back nonstop!!!
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>>546238757
Oh damn
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>people who used bugged decks got their Haru sticker removed
based devs
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>>546241112
I didn't miss it, I literally got it and even equipped it on my Haru. It still even shows up on her save file.
>>546237776
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>>546240802
I checked it too bro and I’m missing it as well. Fake and gay
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>>546239541
This does not make any sense.
I have seen a deck gotten on blue pot diff 3 which is a tier 3 chaos. It has source of water with divine epiphany that gives it +1 AP, copied twice, and a monster card.
That should be:
Divine SoW: 0+20
Copied Divine SoW: 0+20
Copied Divine SoW 2: 10+20
Monster card: 80
That's 150 vivid point. Diff 3 should have 50 as the cap.
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>>546241138
But also lets say you do and she's a 0 cost sub-dps that aoe's with whom do you pair her with? She's pretty self-sufficient at that point. A sub-dps veronica to do a hybrid damage comp? Cassius/Nia for more draw? She shouldn't need Mika anymore. Let Khalipe carry her ass early game?
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Did you guys started using your Yukis and forgot to upgrade her first?
Anyway...
HELP I'M BEING KEKED BY THE MALES OF THIS GAME AGAIN AIEEEEEEEEEEE! CEO-SAMA PLS DELET MALE! DELET MALE!
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>>546241310
Report the bug then
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>>546241281
Same, I quit in 2.1 and never looked back
I'll always remember how much fun it was back then
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Sooo is Yuki worth rolling for? I just woke up.
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>reads the story a bit
>already halfway to lvl 50
this is nice. Let me in the post 50 club already
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>>546241340
>flat crotch
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>>546239125
We never left baby
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YUKIS FAT TITS ON MY FACE RIGHT NOW AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>546237127
I want more art like this. Xipa is so based.
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>>546239373
>>546241318
Don't worry. They'll just keep adding more tiers and you'll eventually be able to save one (1) monster card.
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>yuki need veronica E1
oh no...
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the real premium characters will be shit like meilin that apply element weakness and gain buffs from using same element cards
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>>546241340
>kissing anyone but his brother
yeah idk about this webm bro it's not very canonical
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Nia is overrated as fuck
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>>546241358
Only if you like high demand low pay off
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>>546241340
Now do Lukas and Hugo...
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man, this feels good...
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Surely this card is good
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>>546241328
Veronica probably just to go through the entire deck every turn. Cassius would work too.
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>>546241076
I'm trying to build a Vero deck with only draw cards like this and upgrades (except the one that creates a ballista each turn). Not sure how viable that is
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>>546241434
Just what I have got...mouse bunny bros, we stay winning
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>>546241387
Why are you staring at someone's dick, bro?
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>>546241434
How does the E1 change anything?
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>>546241493
That'd probably go crazy on Cassius teams.
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>>546241448
The real premium characters will be insane draw/AP engines (Cassius, Veronica, Mika) or have effects with absurd scaling that you can ramp by playing 40 cards in a turn (Me Lin hit per passion, Tressa daggers per heal, Hugo dingos per skill)
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>>546241465
I like her but her splash art is so ass
retarded ass chipmunk face
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>>546241318
This is the save data. Tier 3 cap btw.
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>>546241518
Belligerence bricks due to veronica ballistas don't use em together.
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>>546241434
Good thing I just got a dupe of her and my second of Hugo from a standard 10 pull
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My wife Rin is so good she is even giving me pulls now
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How do you make beryl work in basin when she's supposed to retain cards?
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>>546241483
>Amir is the worst character in the game
>she has better AoE than Yuki
...
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>>546241318
When you go over the cap, what stays and what gets yeeted is random
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>>546241318
I'm assuming all the saves before they did that exploit "fix" are excessively higher then where they should be. That or the devs are bullshitting us again.
I'm curious how the monster card save works when you have left over points but not the full 80 because an epiphanied monster card would be 90 points and ik for a fact i've got at least 2 loadouts that saved them.
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The anon below this post is Yuki
Please be nice to her
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Yuki lineups?
Don't have Nia built so there's that
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>sexo demon girl designs
>partners
Such wasted potentials
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>>546241732
i'm getting you pregnant.
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All of you Yuki haters will rue the day. Remember this moment, when I believed in Yuki and no one else did.
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Damn this game is a fucking mess lol
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>>546241328
>>546241138
The vision is somewhat there, I think she'll have to get a source of vuln because ways to scale her is so trash. I'm getting an idea of how I want to build her though. It's similar to building Rin with "-1 cost of dark mist stance" cards on her nukes with her double tutor skill epiphany.
https://streamable.com/mmmjp7
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>>546239916
Why would you expect G Chord to activate inspiration? You're not drawing the card
I assume it's because of the poor wording saying "activate" when it's actually "use"?
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>>546241667
But no card was deleted at all. The deck has one of her unique card removed and gets added back at the end. Removing the first card is 0 point. But the 3 divine source of water and monster card is kept at the end.
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>>546241470
Surely she's better than the furry at least, right?
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>>546241732
open wide Yuki, heres your dinner fresh from my balls
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>still no apologems for Beryll bug
The dev really want us to support gookcel
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>>546241751
I don't believe in Yuki. I believe in the leaked numbers, but they nerfed her damage like 60% and gave half of it back on E6.
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RoverGod please return our director. Director stop playing wuwa and fix the game.
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I thought they said they were going to fix the story, but MC is still a side character in this event?
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Yuki... yeah wtf are these multipliers, bricked. got me bricked up but still bricked.
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>>546241318
>>546241695
>devs finally explained save data
>but they also massively nerfed it, even more so than just the difficulty 5 alleged bug fix
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>>546241816
>Surely she is better than the strongest character in the game at least
Anon...
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>Monster Cards count for 80
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>>546241816
I'd be surprise if she is better than beryl or tressa
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Was it worth it for you guy ? As AoE unit I think Khalipe is just better, she deals damage, she tanks and she uses her card for free. The tits on my game screen makes it worth it, but the gameplay is meh
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does this work on veronica's ballistas
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So Yuki is a shortstack. She looks tall in her Live2D but she's probably some shortie
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Who should I give this to?
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>>546241760
Yeah I'm not giving then $$$ until they fix their shit up
Good thing I already have 9x 5*s as F2P (with 2x rate up 5* partners too) and I'm only level 30 with a lot of free pulls to earn still.
I don't even slightly feel the need to spend
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>>546241856
Rover is such a boring and uninspired name
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>>546241925
Nyo
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>>546241925
Those should be Unique.
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>>546241891
What's that purple armor?
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>>546241816
>Surely she's better than Hugo who just got buffed in this patch
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>>546241891
>Monster Cards count for 80
They do now!

I dunno man, I wonder if they just invented this brand new system and assigned arbitrary values to everything.
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>>546240130
for the meme hoyoslop endgame mode, yeah
if you're willing to spend like 150 rolls to get one roll back, that is
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I don't get it, every single other retain card of hers procs when you kill a wave and move to the next one but this one doesn't? Like what? The transformation is a retain effect??
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>>546241946
Holy shit that's some harem anime level of pandering, we won so fucking hard
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>>546241991
Let's you discard up to 3 cards at the start of the battle, and draw that amount of card.
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>>546241946
No, she's 210cm and you're 240.
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>>546241816
Hugo is a beast in boss content, it's not even close
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>>546241891
SO IT'S ALL A LIE
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>hmm I'm gonna copy all the mihomo shits yum yum
>oh that other game has shittier login, let me copy that instead
Sugoi....
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>>546241784
>Vuln
>Multihit
Orlea wins again
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>reduced 2 cost flash strike doesn't trigger khalipe
yukibros...
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>>546240391
Never played codex before?
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>>546241992
>>546241876
>>546241895
Nigga every fucking time i swear, every time i fucking like a character in a shitty gacha they end garbage. Holy fucking retarded devs. They deserve all the hate they get.
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>>546241483
you gonna keep rubbing this on peoples faces the whole day?
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>>546241891
>removing a basic card should be 20 points
>monster card should be 80 points
>70/100 points
wat
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>>546242028
Damn, a mulligan piece, that's nice. Available in the void chaos, I suppose?
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Never felt stronger.
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>STILL don't have Cassius
My clancka, please come home, how do I finish my teams?
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>>546241891
I mean assuming everything else is right, the monster card there is 30 no?
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>>546242103
Owari da...can't even wheelchair her with Khalipe...
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>>546242102
The only unit I don't have, she looks fun but high maintenance. Maybe some day.
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>>546242118
>liking yuki
damn anon get some taste
she'd look better naked than wearing whatever the fuck she's putting on
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>>546241816
You may not like it but he is what peak performance looks like.
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>>546240484
>how to make yuki work
>remove her from the team
Actually, pretty solid advice
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Two questions
I've only started yesterday, do i bother using the stamina refills to catch up with the rank system, as I'm at 13?
I forgot to screencap but from the beginner banner + 40 rolls on the rate up i got
>magna
>Nia
>Selena
>Lucy
I'm probably going to roll for Yuki so i guess i level Magna and Nia or keep using Mika but can i slot tressa in with them in the meantime while not trying to build too many characters or should I just use Owen in that slot as a striker?
in all honesty i don't get the class system with hunter/psionic. The other three seem basic to grasp.
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>>546241891
>>546242161
I mean it makes fucking sense

EIGHTY fucking points for a card seems fucking insane. 30 is more reasonable, it would still be extremely costly but not that much
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>Black Mist Stance
>Dark Mist Stance
>Mist Mist Stance
>Dark Mist Stance3
Do they not have a single competent translator at this fucking million dollar company how did they manage to make it worse
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>>546242103
>>546242169
i don't get why, other cards with reduced costs if they were 2 cost originally they proc it
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How do you get purple gear?
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I just got "use 5+ cost 2+ cards in a single turn" achievement and my Haru was still hungry for more AP. Mika cannot satisfy her.
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PUTTING MY COCK IN YUKI'S MOUTH
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>>546242103
>using Khalipe with a character that mostly has 1 cost cards and even has card cost reduction
Are you retarded? May as well use her with Rin as well at this point.
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You should all be saving for the slutty support that powercreeps Mika, not the mid aoe dpiss or brick counterbot.
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Maybe Haru was not that bad after all
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>>546242229
No they don't.
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>>546242093
Regular summons are more valuable than limited ones though in this game. All our rate ups so far have been brickbait.
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2 monster cards, 1 with epiphany and only 80 points.
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>>546242270
lmao
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>first banner is boring school girl with grating voice
>second banner is low tier shitter
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>>546242228
You don't even need a translator, you just need 1 proofreader with a decent grasp of the English language.
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People are making shit up about Yuki.
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>>546242212
I call it the "play her like veronica" build. Zero cost skills that draw zero cost attacks and is practically of no consequence to your main deck.
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>>546241039
>everyone needs dupes to actually be fun
They're really copying homoverse with everything
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>>546242286
Haru's fat tits were saving CZN
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>>546242270
i wouldnt last 1 second with her piercing
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I dont know. Feels like my Kayron just does so much more damage than Yuki even as a ramp up character on the first turn..
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>>546242281
mika is impossible to powercreep without completely breaking the game, that’s how bad the balancing is. devs are retarded
If you are familiar with epic seven, you can remember some very very op 3 star comp from the launch of the game that got nerfed to the ground. unironically that’s mika and the shit show will be insane
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WHEN ARE WE GETTING A REAL LIMITED CHARACTER???????
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>>546242281
She looks fucking hideous, pulling her will hurt my eye every time i open my combatant page. at least yuki is eye candy.
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8 pulls left for hard pity but finally i got her!!!
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>>546242281
I'm saving for the monster girl
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>20 points
I should've removed more basic cards.
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>>546242145
Haru Mika Vero
Renoa/Yuki Nia Orlea
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>>546242314
>>546241891
Wouldn't surprise me if the translation was so dogshit the rules were not properly explained or the points were off.
Maybe we should take a look at the korean version instead.
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>>546242123
sorry, I didn't mean to.
in fact, I'm struggling to even clear 9th and 10th right now. just, sometimes, the draw rng is good and I'm happy to get to see big numbers
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>>546242340
I play ZZZ with all zero dupe just fine
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>new whalebait packs
>gives limited rolls
meh
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>>546242415
Sorry to hear that
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Why won't this whore leave me alone?!?
I want other 5* characters!
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>>546242228
>Mist mist stance
They removed the SOUL from Rei and gave it to Rin.
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>>546242443
does this son have a name?
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>>546241039
>>546242340
Careful. Last time someone said this, 2 different schizos sperged out about it for an hour.
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>>546242419
Always remove to the max, I'd rather see runs where they get added back, than see runs where they could've been removed but didnt
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>>546242221
if you want to MAXIMIZE EFFICIENTLY EFFICIENTGODGODGOD you keep stamina items until you reach level cap and unlock the best farming nodes possible
if you want to have fun just use them now, it matters really little down the line
>class system
don't bother they're just flavorish to divide the combatants in various categories, but ranger is kinda Extra Attack specialist and Psionic supports
>team
Magna and Yuki might work well together as they do lots of AoE, Nia also helps them (mostly Yuki) out

can't really tell you more because unfortunately I don't have Magna and Yuki just released sorry
>Lucy
who's lucy?
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I wanted to compare Yuki with BrickYuan because they're both AoE units and 2nd banner, but damn her single target damage is so lacking she's way beyond a brick. I want a refund.
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>>546242443
zzz is the passion project by the guy that made the hi3 cinematics so he gets a free pass by dawei as long as he doesn’t bankrupt the company
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>>546242392
>No dmg
>No draw
Overrated beyond believe in most teams. Unless you're a D5 abuserfag that goes around with decks you shouldn't even have.
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>not level 50 yet
I guess I will only do enough to get the weekly event progress
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>>546241039
this is why you should save your dupe crystal for a character you really like so they will actually work properly
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>>546242221
>use stamina
only to clear out the guide missions. They start gateing you pretty hard later. Use it if you feel like you need to, but iirc I only felt like I needed to after lvl 20-30. Lots of things give exp for (free) like battle missions and story type missions.
>rolling on beginner banner
technically the best way is to spam your free rolls on normal banner for an early hit, and then use the guarantee cheaper rolls on the beginner banner. Probably not too late to reroll if that's your thing
>units
Hunters seem like extra attack based units where they spawn cards that can attack for free
Psionic so far seems like hybrid support/attackers who don't actively deal damage through their main attacks, but supplements it via debuffs/buffs
Who's lucy?
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>Haru needs dupes
Mine cleared basin at E0 though
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>>546242228
>Mist mist stance
pfft haha no way they're this bad
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She will probably be okay when you raise everything but then every other unit will also be as good...
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>>546242392
>mika is impossible to powercreep without completely breaking the game
This isn't remotely true.
Mika has some very mid cards in her kit. Source is extremely good, but you could pretty easily make Mika with 1 less brick card (Whirlpool) or 1 more very good card. Like imagine Mika, but with Joker instead of Whirlpool.
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Just got Veronica from Yuki's banner and holy you guys were right, she's busted managed to get Yuki too and she works great with her
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>>546242531
My brain fried, i meant Lucas
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>>546242314
You have 2 Epiphanies (I see Giant Ballista)

So 20 points for them
+ 30 x 2 monster cards = 80

Ok MONSTER CARDS CONFIRMED 30 POINTS, NOT 80

Added this to the rentry in the OP
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>>546242374
>unskilled khalipe metafag talking about anything
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>>546242540
You have no place here, mihomotanny. Kill yourself
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this card shuffles the deck or what? i thought draw would be shit but it seems to be yoinking from the graveyard
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>>546242546
>passion project
>genshinfied since 1.3 and hadn't recovered since narratively
>original vision turned into wuwa panderslop and chink magic
>3 main pillars of the game had one removed so now it feels like playing barely more than half a game
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>>546242340
I thought this game was fun with any characters, now we need dupes to have fun?

Bwos.........
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>>546242392
>mika is impossible to powercreep
She is absolutely powercreepable, you can easily wrangle up some better AP gen, heals, or add shit in innately like Draw or removing bricks like fucking Whirlpool.
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>>546242540
>Yuki passively gets buffed with every new support
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god damn, i have no idea how to get the ball rolling with yuki; i reach the first boss and i'm struggling to kill the thing fast before it murders me
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>>546242676
TRVTH NUKE
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>>546242690
Yeah, draw does cycle deck.
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>>546242641
Lucas is paried with Yuki because he's an AoE specialist apparently but I don't see it
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Is story bugged? It kicks me out of the game when i tap the second node.......
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>>546242221
>do i bother using the stamina refills
If you're really afraid about not having enough pulls, use 100 crystals on stamina daily.
If you're not too concerned, use 240 (so 4/8).
Don't go over that unless you plan to spend money on the game.
The extra resources you get are very worth it for that stamina cost IMO.
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>>546242636
That's their point though? To powercreep Mika, you have to introduce someone better and that kit you mention with AP gen and card search (including discard) is going to break the game in a way where no other team can function without this unit.
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>>546242673
>vulture in hand
>no combo points
dumb nigger.
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Just won the 50/50
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>>546242636
Whirlpool have upgrade that gives 1 wave per target hit plus some solid for support damage and heal.
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>>546242751
how come mei lins draw doesn't work the same? people specifically want move for her
am i missing something? mb if these are retarded questions
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>>546242495
Now i can save without worry
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>>546242728
e2.
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>everyone keeps overloading Yuki with TWO fucking draw characters and complaining she does no damage
holy fucking braindead
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If I remove a card from a character and then remove another card from a different character are they both 0 or does the second cost 10?
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>>546242728
Click on the health bar and post your deck so far
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>>546242228
I hope this is waking call for the director to fire the translator(s) or whoever in charge of QA.
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>>546242423
Thanks for the suggestion chad, but I just really want Cassius because he's cool and he has one of the best VAs, although idk who the VA is
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>>546242830
no, it start to cost a lot only on the same character
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>>546242667
Why is this deck 90 points?
If monster cards were 30 this should be 50 points (one monster + one removal of basic card)
If monster cards were 80 this should be 100 points. If it were 100 points I think they would've slid my basic attack back in and downgraded it to 80 points. WHY IS IT 90?
Where's my apologems for the inconvenience?
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>>546242728
have a main ST dps on your team
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>>546242801
It's shitty wording, some draw doesn't bring up discard pile even if your drawpile is 0, it's the search specific card that bring back whole pile of it can't find any in draw pile
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Yuki status?
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>Yuki wants both AP and Draw
>but has no scaling mechanism, just Rin-esque debuffs to all her cards for not using her mechanic
>actively gets worse the thinner her support's decks are
oh this is not great
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>>546242667
I thought epiphany for character card don't cost point? Even if they do then you still need to add 10 more from monster card epiphany.
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>>546242801
>>546242930
Yeah I'mma be real with you bwos I just test on a case by case basis.
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>>546242695
>>original vision turned into wuwa panderslop and chink magic
The game was succesful because of panderslop, though. There were no ships at launch and that continued until Jane that killed the game's revenue until their relaunch where Evelynn killed it again.
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Gooner incel characters are purposefully made weak as fuck because gooners are fine with slop.
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>>546242930
>>546242984
it's a good thing anyway, if her draw worked the same as mei lin she would've been an ultra brick not gonna lie
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>>546242728
>only UNO(1(ONE)) DPS team
>bro where is my damage
at least put a mixed like Rei/Magna
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HHAHAHAHAHAHHHA EVEN /OUR GUY/ SAYS YUKI IS NOT WORTH THE LIMITED RESOURCES YOU PULL HER WITH AAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA CHIZURU BROOOOS WE WOOOON
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Yuki is a honeypot... I regret rolling for her..
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>>546242890
>If a Monster Card is acquired then removed, the acquisition will not be recorded in Save Data, but the removal will be.
>As a result, though Save Data appears identical to one in which no card was acquired, it is calculated as having greater value.
Maybe?
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>>546242667
Yo, I'm pretty sure I saw some anons post about reaching Tier 12 a few threads ago, 11 probably isn't the highest.
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More update more problem, that's how we roll in Smilegate
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So what memory fragments?
4 pc crit damage 2 pc crit damage? Or 4 pc crit damage, 2pc atk?
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>>546242840
holy fat
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>>546242690
Important mechanics here.
When you DRAW, if there are no cards in the deck to draw your DISCARD pile will be shuffled to the deck and then you will draw.
This will not shuffle the USED piled of cards that have been used this turn, those can only be retrieved with cards that MOVE not DRAW.
If you have a card that draws specific other cards, such as cards from a specific combatant, or cards of a specific type, and those cards exist in discard (not used) it will immediately shuffle discard to deck so you can draw, regardless of how many cards remain in deck.
If you use a card that allows you to select cards from the deck, or G-Chord which uses the top card of the deck, and there are no targets in the deck, nothing will happen. Only drawing causes a shuffle.
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>>546242801
Cards you have played this turn go to a "special" limbo pile that is NOT discard pile (notice the [number] + X thing on top of discard pile, where X is the number of cards you've played this turn). "Draw" effects can't touch this limbo pile. When you shuffle your drawing pile, everything (discard + limbo) is shuffled into the drawing pile though
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>>546243029
Who is this Maplestory character, bro?
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>>546243035
I have Rin as my single target wife and Yuki as my aoe one. Now i need my big breast katana shielder and healer
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No way Im rolling for Chizuru when THIS bitch exists
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>>546241925
>>546241979
>>546241987
NTA but isn't basic denoted by the color here
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>>546242995
the pandering is fine but it feels overbearing at times. It feels unnatural when you're out doing something in a mission and agents randomly fellate you like that one time with ellen and lycaon
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Why are the poor seapags crying so hard?
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>>546241784
More yuki, pretty good turn. Feeling decent now. I just notice I had quantum collector so if I used Magna's upgrade card I would have killed. Maybe I'll get some sick turns at the boss and maybe she's better with 4pc order than I thought with her attack counts.
https://streamable.com/59380f
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I regret not rolling Haru
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>>546243165
Holy Fuck those thighs
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>>546243165
Very shielder coded
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>>546242764
I it could be something mid instead of whirlpool which is actively bad and it would be better than Mika, and no it wouldn't break the game.
By your definition of breaking the game adding a second character that was just Mika again would "break the game" because everyone would be using Mika on both teams.
I think you're exaggerating. It would just become the new best generic support. We already have a best generic support, it's Mika. Having a better one isn't that crazy, it would just be new Mika.
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>>546243168
Fuck if I know, all I've seen so far points to generated cards being unique. They should really just add a fucking tag that flat out states what rarity it is in plain text.
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>>546243202
Repent, Kanchou <3
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That mythic gear from the new chaos is mandatory for Yuki.
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>>546243087
>>546243123
i see. thank you anons.
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>>546243165
fucking hell this lady needs way more than 4 inch...
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Damn the heals came back. But the build is pretty good. a lot of draw.
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>get animation
>FINALLY LUCAS?
>No
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>>546243176
> It feels unnatural when you're out doing something in a mission and agents randomly fellate you like that one time with ellen and lycaon
Ellen is the game's most popular character period. Lycaon is also the furry favourite so i don't see your point.
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>>546241434
I have Beronica E1, but what is the synergy here?
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really familiar design...
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>Yuki is le bad
Just play better bro
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>>546243220
>>546243165
Yeah she's a shielder 100%

This girl on the left is her partner for sure and she wields a fucking giant shield lol
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>>546243202
>he missed on the JK big titty cow
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Hey GAYS. is 2pc atk or 2pc crit damage better
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>>546242795
still worse than it being removed from the deck
maybe if it triggered tressa's daggers it would be remotely usable, but it doesn't for whatever reason
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I've bricked myself by rolling yuki but I still got 120 rolls to get more bricks.
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>>546243202
both are shit
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oh
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>>546243297
Korean Raiden Mei
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>>546242878
>although idk who the VA is
>he don't know about duck
shameful
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>>546243330
Are you critting with any real frequency?
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Beryl's bug is the fucking worst.
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>E2 is removing her retarded mechanic to make the character usable
why would you introduce a mechanic that PENALIZES the character like some sort of trap you have to evade every turn to just play the card normally? it doesn’t feel like a -1 cost is actually a +1 cost you remove
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>>546243202
She's on the standard banner anon, just get lucky.
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>finally explaining this fuckery
best part of the update
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Where are the dataminers? Surely Chizuru animations are already in the game?
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>>546243330
if they have crit nodes do crit%
otherwise atk%
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>>546243291
Oh and then Renoa afterwards

WHERE
IS
LUCAS
GODDAMNIT
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>>546243330
2pc crit damage
>>546243202
It's funny because I got spooked from her so now I have Haru E1

Haru is still around you just need to get lucky or lure her with cakes
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>Want to dismantle
>Terrified they'll eventually buff dismantle because it gives practically nothing now
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>>546243330
depends on your current values for atk/crit chance/crit damage
atk is probably more consistent
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>>546243297
shibari shaman miko wife..SS miko chizuru..
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>>546243320
Maybe she'll finally unbrick counterattack teams...
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>>546243392
We're already not sure if all of their numbers are correct unfortunately.
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>>546243392
Good news! We still don't know how it works and it seems like they still aren't telling us something. Unless they changed all of the rules with this patch.
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Is she next?
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>>546243297
>literally Raiden but with bondage Yae's outfit
really now
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Oh so you can find out the D5 exploited decks from the Faint Memory score.
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>>546243469
Yes
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>>546243330
Right now definately atk. But asuming endgame build crit damage for units with crit nodes
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>>546243168
No
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>>546243374
>create a problem and sells you the fix
It's classic
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>>546243291
>>546243419
NEVERMIND
I'M A GOD
FINALLY
THE HAREM IS ASSEMBLED
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>>546236809
HOLY

OWEN NOT GETTING KILLED CONFIRMED

HE'S GONNA BECOME A FEMBOY
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>>546243374
>removing
you don't play the game
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>>546243202
Many are saying this
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>Depending on the TYPE OF ENTRY, the value of each Faint Memory is calculated differently.
Emphasis mine, the fine print is fucking diabolical
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>>546243468
>Unless they changed all of the rules with this patch.
Maybe the old saves used a different formula and the retroactive calculation is ass. Needs futher testing. I'll play with a spreadsheet by my side tonight after I'm done wageing and working out.
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Man 90% of you guys are so shit at this game its not even funny
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>>546243374
just get this lol, instant fix, her e2 is just QoL
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>>546241606
>>546241891
At this point I'm starting to believe the 80 points for a monster card was another mistranslation and it's just 30.
Not only it makes more sense with the numbers on previous decks, it's also way less ridiculous sounding than 80 when DT 10 is like what 130 points?
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>>546243595
what the fuck does that even mean
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>>546243359
duck who?
>>546243291
>>546243419
I would trade you all my copies of Lucas for 1 Cassius.
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>>546243625
calm that Dunning-kruger syndrome, Ramat
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>>546243469
i dont know who that is but if that was directora inspiration then chizuru will be demolishing
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>>546243552
HomoLORD
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Right?
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>>546241948
Haru has the higher costing cards there no?
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>>546243552
Grats Lucasbrooooo
I was also forced to throw away my pity on Yuki just to get my first Lucas. What a waste.
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BWOS PLEASE HELP
IF I USE THE 2COST CRIT SET, IT WILL APPLY IF THE CARDS GET THEIR COST REDUCED?
I WANT TO USE IT WITH YUKI
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>>546243374
>>546243632
Between outbreak of war and milling the first 2 turns don't really matter.
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>>546243708
Yes
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>>546242878
Here is his JP VA
And invest in Orlea Beryl coin, its going to the moon with Narja
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>>546243552
Keep rolling bro. He NEEDS his E6
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>>546243754
Only applies to current cost IIRC. Just use the fucking 2 piece sets.
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Remember when
>our game is fair and balance goy we don't need to roll for dupe
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>>546242016
Yes? What is confusing about that card?
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>>546243648
No idea, it could serve as an introduction to various sub-entries that follow (common card acquisition, divine epiphany, etc.) or it could mean something else
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>>546243595
>>546243648
The next 6 pages explain each entry type...
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YOU SAID THEY NERFED THEM
WHAT THE FUJKC
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>>546242374
>4k dps first turn
Homobwos...i knew i should've picked the edgy chad with my selector..
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>>546243860
Nothing personnel...
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>>546243860
>no aoe
perish
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>>546243860
They said they "adjusted" them.
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>>546243860
Hope you're ready for the game over rape scene...
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>>546236643
>>546240851
I'm just a catalog tourist, who is the artist/character?
I want to jerk off to your game.
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>>546243860
bwo? your aoe?
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>>546243662
>>546243698
I also want a Cassius, but that's for gameplay purposes
Now I have the threesome I wanted since I pulled Luke

>>546243721
I still have my pity 5* to go on Yuki, so who knows what that'll be

>>546243812
He doesn't need anything
He's home now
He's going to get powerbottomed the FUCK out of by his brother
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>>546243860
>he got a bit TOO comfy without AoE
lamo, rape time
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>>546243921
The artist is AI-kun
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>>546243669
is it wrong tho
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Why did they release an event that's weak to void along with a new Order character?
This feels terrible to play especially with how slow Yuki is on Chaos.
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>>546241216
>>546242228
Legit question not joking or anything but: is the guy in charge of the TLs doing this on purpose?
MTL doesn't make mistakes like these, it has to be someone intentionally changing these things to become this bad.
Things that were not even broken suddenly got changed, and changed for WORSE.
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This feels so fucking bad. Didn't this use to shuffle her cards in the discard pile back into the deck?
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>>546243808
And who told you Narja will be retain?
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For this one, the 4th is definately the best right?
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>>546243860
This will never not be funny
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>>546243921
>/character?
Yuki
>artist
Anon I....
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>>546243168
no, basic are just the 3 cards units start with with white text, those are the only ones mei lin's "draw basic card" card draws
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>>546243469
I don't think it's possible to be treated worse than Mei was
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>>546243860
WIPED
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>>546243860
meilin metafag deserves the rape...
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>>546243297
Acheron won..
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>>546243997
For some reason it puts her retains back in hand lol, weird interaction but you basically get free inspiration off them I think.
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>>546243949
That's cool. I'm benching both of mine
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What the fuck
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>>546243818
Because it's true, all this dupe posting is from retards who don't even play the game.
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>>546243949
The good news is I can finally pick Luke to also complete all the males. Now, if only I'm able to luckshit E2 Cassius that would be great.
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>>546243860
Bro? Your Yuki?
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>>546243860
Mei lin is a fucking BRICK. Haru clears this ez btw.
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>>546244003
Her being the retain element (instinct) and all those seasonal experiment card shilling hand size
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>>546244094
The gooks finally got to em...
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>>546244094
>he didn't know about the cats nerf
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>>546243297
is Chizu the real limited?????
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>>546244094
looks like the local humane society took them to the pound
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>>546244084
...can I watch?

>>546244110
That's a lot of pulls!
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https://litter.catbox.moe/ey9trkinlfy4ccw7.jpg
check out maribell
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So what's the qrd on the save data stuff now? are monster cards king now?
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>>546244094
Nyo...
Cat genocide...
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>>546244150
STOP CALLING THEM LIMITED NIGGAS
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>>546243297
It could have been white hair to make it less obvious, but it gotta be purple...
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Gloom fuckers were not nerfed at all
They lied
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>>546244094
They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats.
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>>546244192
Monster cards were often good already, nothing about that's changed with the update.
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>>546244094
>Release chinese character
>All cats are suddenly gone from the cafe
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I want Lilian more than I want Yuki..............................
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alright, I did it.
9th is much harder than 10th as other people said. those Spirit Kefoxes counter my Amir really bad, I have to switch her out despite elemental advantage.
and I'm glad I did. Hurricane can oneshot those invincible crusaders, bypass all of their immunity. I didn't know that before.
I can feel that the next basin is gonna be really tough...
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>>546244094
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11202695
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>>546244126
Hmm, i dont believe it but i still want to somehow get Orlea
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>>546244265
Based ass man
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>>546244182
Xipa-sama really carrying our fanart scene singlehandedly...
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>>546244094
It's true
Even if you re-enter the cafe 20 times, barely any cats appear. They nerfed their appearance rates big time.
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>Haru sticker removed
>Cafe cats confiscated
>Yuki's power gone
I am literally about to join the gooks
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Thanks Mei Lin, you're the best
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I just died in Yuki's story against 3 nightmares lol, her damage is kinda bad ngl
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>Smile tells us literally everything we want to hear
>turns out all of it was a lie
>we still have no idea how save data works
>shit that was supposed to get nerfed wasn't
>brand new Beryl bug that will undoubtedly turn into a feature because she was raping Judas too hard
>the new character also got nerfed because they gave out too many apologibs
Hey though, at least it's 30% cheaper than Genshin.
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>>546243297
>Bound arms behind back
>Telepathic/robotic/magical arm wielding sword
I may be not as exposed to designs from other games, but it's a memorable design for me. I'll pull her
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>>546242801
Mei Lin's Unity does work like that though
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>>546243716
Sure, but I was considering maybe putting on another character so they could support any other character with high cost cards.
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>>546243818
I am zero codex dif 10 with 0 dupes thougheverbelt????
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If I can't make Yuki feel nice to play within next week, I'm cutting the tie with kimchi game forever, they already farm enough bitcoin with Stove
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Yuki's surprisingly easy to build since you can keep her basics around. Her dupe counts are going to go crazy.
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>>546244134
>>546244139
>>546244165
>>546244193
>>546244243
>>546244283
>>546244320
It ain't even a cat cafe anymore this is just a regular cafe, what a scam
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>>546244378
>he doesn't know
ohnononono
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damn boy he thick
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>my boy carried me to a promotion
Hell yeah
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uhhh, go away please
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>>546244461
I was already sold on her. You don't have to convince me.
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>>546244336
>hard-draw 5 attack cards
>suddenly she's doing worse damage than fucking Owen because at least he applies Vulnerability
they gutted her, this is hilarious
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>>546244452
>since you can keep her basics around.
Her 2 cost is shit, that damage is not worth the cost at all.
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>>546244378
She is this girl
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>>546244461
Is that even an obi? What about the rope thing behind her?
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>>546244568
Get her E2. Surely you're willing to pay for your sexy waifu?
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Fuck I've been working overtime for 3 days so all I've been doing is logging in and using stamina. Just saw the Yuki banner, is she good?
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>>546244126
>the retain element (instinct)
Beryl isn't instinct retard
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>>546244592
The rest of her deck is so low cost you can just budget it in your turns, if you're running no mika or have low ap economy in your epiphany for either her tutor or your support, just cut it before the final boss. It's keepable, far better than other 2 cost basics to say the least.
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>>546244631
Don't entertain the shitposter
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>>546244679
>Just saw the Yuki banner, is she good?
First reaction so far has been no, give it time though.
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>>546244126
>instinct
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>>546244679
She really depends on inspiration
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>>546244598
Oh I see. Still the bound arms make Chizuru stand out enough
>>546244716
Noted o7
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>>546244461
Holy shit she looks just like pic related
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>>546244094
Don't check the new restaurant menu!
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>>546244358
>brand new Beryl bug that will undoubtedly turn into a feature because she was raping Judas too hard
just use Tressa lol
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>>546244690
>>546244738
Magna is literally AP hungry
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>>546244728
First reaction are unfortunately usually the right ones.
First reaction to Haru was that she is good. Then the shiposters came and convinced everyone she was bad when she isn't.
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>>546244679
She's underwhelming, but maybe she'll get buffed or something will be figured out.
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The best healing is finishing fights faster.
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Fairly early e2 like 120 pulls for e2s1
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>>546244834
If you play her poorly yeah. Remove all her garbage, keep the upgrades, let the trinket do its work, and use her as a frost charge bot.
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>>546244690
>>546244738
Never said only Instinct chars can be Retain, just Narja will most likely be retain because shes Instinct (yellow cards)
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>>546244452
Rapid slash is bait, weak and costly, more worth of a delete than her shield unironically because it's [Attack] so it gets pulled by her tutors, while her shield doesn't
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES FINALLYYYYYYYY
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What teams can I use to beat 7 bros. Its way too hard.
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>>546244895
>pay to bypass and remove a character gimmick
but why
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>>546244923
Cassius does not have any Retain at all, and Beryl is the premier Retainer, and she's blue.
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How is this 30 points?
>>546244923
What retain does Cassius have?
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Yuki bricked my account
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Khalipe is instinct retain
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So the higher the faint memory the more likely things are going to be lost?
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>>546245036
Improve her chaos runs where you don't have her ideal comp/cards/epipis/equipments.
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oh hell yeah, guess who decided to drop in from standard
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>>546245073
first dupe is supposed to be 0, second is supposed to be 10
fuck if I know, maybe you have an epi adding 10 somewhere
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>>546245073
Removed 1 starting card=20p, copy 2 times=10p
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>ITT think memory will be explained clearly when they can't even explain small sentence on the card properly
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>>546244461
>zoomoid mihomotranmy doesnt know how a miko attire looks like
KEEEEKAAREEEKOOOOO
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>>546244971
Say goodbye to your credits.
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This is so broken how can you not pay for this
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>>546244971 (Me)
Used the x20 standard and the x10 the event gives you to get lv50
>standard x20
Another Vero Dupe
>rate up x10
This!
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>>546242229
Only E2 Haru's anchor shot can do that actually.
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Which card do you remove for Yuki? The free basic card seems fine. The 2cost and shield are kinda useless
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>>546245073
>>546245058
Okay fair enough the element is more about hand sizing, retain and draws, but no way Narja is just going to be another draw slop when they already made Yuki
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>>546245118
The higher your Faint Memory the more you're running up against the tier point cap, which in turn means you'll be losing more shit the more you're over it.
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>>546245206
My shaman miko princess..
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>>546245218
1 more ego point often means a big AOE ego attack instead.
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>hit level 50
>no money to level up shit
Thanks
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>>546244461
This makes me want to roll for her even more
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>>546244182
holy fug
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>>546245359
Completely unbricks hands. And you can save it for when thata needed
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Beryl is better for yuki than nia no?
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>>546245282
Yuki draws her own stuff though, it would be more like Cassius and Nia as an instinct draw character.
She could also create cards.
She could also pull cards from discard (niche we don't have much of atm)
She could also copy cards in hand.
She could also be based on retrieve.
There's a lot of ways to do cards in hand stuff besides retain/draw.
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>>546244679
Shit at exterior chaos, becomes better at interior when you have epis
Good for general content outside of chaos provided you have inspiration epis
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hes fucking laughing...
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>>546245280
2cost and shield, yeah. At least the 1cost is free if you draw it
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>>546245282
"at the start of your turn create 2 cards, 0 cost, does something"
not retain, fills hand
"create two copies of the first attack played last turn, ephemeral"
get creative with it
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>>546245453
Cassius bro.. with the full house quest
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>>546244705
Her scaling single target slash costs 2 and is pretty much mandatory since its her only good single target dps.
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>>546243176
>Hi, I know we just met, but I trust you so much and you are best legendary proxy in the world, here is my whole tragic backstory, lol
>Wanna lemon chip?
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hi just visiting this thread
do you guys consider your gacha game to be entirely skill based
or entirely rng based?
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>>546245579
Yes
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>>546245579
Skill based on how much you can avoid getting fucked over by RNG, it's fun
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>>546245579
It's goon based
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>>546245579
Yes.
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>>546245579
Luck is a skill
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>>546245579
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>>546245579
Skills based with a chance to get fucked by RNG.
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>>546245558
Generally, yeah. I'm running her in mist city for foggy and flower, she's going to be fucking busted with 40+15% multiplicative bonuses on gear since she basically plays straight 0 cost.
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>>546245218
It is indeed broken, but I'm eternally f2p because I do not pay for free things. Additionally, though I do kinda feel like this game deserves money because the gameplay is good, they KEEP FUCKING EVERYTHING UP, which ruins any good will I had towards giving them money.
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>If you get to 10AP its displayed as 0
COMPENSATION NYOW FOR MY YUKI PULLS
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this event is really sad, fuck you
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So what do the 4 shills in stream yesterday say to Yuki now after no longer getting paid
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is it just me or is yuki kinda ass? hugo may be ST but he's destroying 2-3 enemy waves just as fast
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>>546245740
Play testers confirmed to be scrubs
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so this should be exactly 80 points
let's see
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What's dark mist stance3
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>>546245787
i attacked that shit and exploded before i could kill it
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>>546245916
Wouldn't it be 90 going off the stated rules because of the epiphany?
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>>546245948
It's darkmist but lvl 3 like goku can go super saiyan 3 you know.
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>>546245847
What teams?
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>>546245916
yup

Monster Cards = 30 points
>>546245968
you're right. apparently it doesn't count? that rule seems fake or there's something else unexplained. maybe the first dup is always free no matter what
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>>546245948
>dark mist stance was so good, they made a dark mist stance3
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I dunno what to tell you guys but Yuki's kinda similar to Khalipe in that you want to copy her 0 cost card like 3 times so whenever you draw with other units it's pretty likely that you'll draw that which leads into proccing Inspiration for her own cards, plus you can force reshuffle with it. It's kinda fun spamming AoEs.
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>>546245789
Everyone is saying the same thing.
Her damage is too low and her mechanic is too fair.
Other dps characters get to do busted stuff, meanwhile Yuki's payoff is just cost reduction on cards with mediocre aoe damage.

Expect them to make her cards do more damage to lone enemies. Smilegate is not shy about buffing units right away if people feel they are shit.
Specially since it's much better to buff and make people happy. Than having to nerf, make everyone angry and having to send fucktons of compensation.
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>>546245948
It's actually supposed to be dark mist stance stance stance and it's upgrade of the mist mist stance.
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>>546246048
What was your save data cap?
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>>546245997
makes sense to me
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>>546246082
and big sales surge after buff
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>>546246048
>>546246121
NVM IM RETARDED
IT ADDED THE SHIELD BACK KEK my limit was 80 because I was tier 6

yeah it was 90 points then you're correct
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Yuki needs a buff
What the fuck is this shit
And her playstyle is too safe. There's no way to increase her damage beyond upgrading her stats. It's like they are too scared to accidentally create another kit like Beryl or Meilin with infinite damage
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Renoa being rude to Orlea because she has breast envy
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>>546246154
So it's as you expected?
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>>546245916
I think they should be 110 actually
>Remove 1 shield, first removal is free but if it's a starting card +20 pts => 20pts
>Monster card => 80pts
>Epiphany on monster card => 10pts
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What if owen is a younger version of us? The captain?
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>>546245206
>KEEEEKAAREEEKOOOOO
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>>546246470
>>546246470
>>546246470
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>>546246453
K-Kekkaroni?
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>>546246483
>>546246483
>>546246483
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>>546246479
>>546246490
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>both got deleted
Huh?
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>>546246479
>>546246490
>both 404
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btw that 200 damage per attack Yuki is supposed to be lv 60 lol
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>Both threads died
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE BAKER SAMA HURRY
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oh no we got the same janny that only wants new threads made when Image cap is reached
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AIEEEEEEEEEE WE ARE BREADLESS
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What was it
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>>546246681
Fair enough?
Bake it later in page 10 or something
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>>546246712
Normal threads.
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Aieeeeeeeeee Yukibros this is not happening
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LMAO YUKI TITTY OP TOO STRONK
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>>546246741
the gall of thread baker
makes me fucking sick knowing I share a thread with these freaks
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Time to pack it up to /vmg/...
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I think Yuki is actually a good pull.
Inspiration is triggered if you pull her cards using an ability and I think she can be self-sufficient with her own neutral draw cards, not just from the supports. You only need a good build and run to get said cards and equipment.
I'm giving her a
>"pull for her if you don't have a green attacker" / 10
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>"Yuki's event"
>first node is about the church sluts AGAIN
Guess I'm skipping the whole story
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>>546246864
>Hating church sluts
Check out this flaming homo
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Ah yes, card/html.sctScholars named it "card/html.sctPrimonium"... I see
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Yuki is alright
Not busted like some chink lady or furry dude but self sufficient
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>game suddenly starts chugging frames during animations
Weird, didn't do this before the update.
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Which of these in your opinion? They all seem good
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Forgot story gives xp. Based will be enough to get me to 50
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>NEUTRAL 20 PTS
>EPIPHANIES 20 PTS
>YADA YADA YADA
so how long until we get a calculator online?
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WHERE IS THE NEW BREAD AAAAAIIIEEE
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>>546246928
Amir is an order freak, she speaks like that. You don't want to know what she screams during sex.
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>>546246928
Arknights got nothing on this writing
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>>546247014
Forget online, gimme a fucking count ingame.
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>
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>>546247094
that'd better be move anon
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>didn't realize you can't use decks from normal chaos runs
>memory wiped Mika because the deck wasn't worth 30 xtals
>can't do play the boss mode and now have to do another run
Fuck
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>>546247014
>>546247089
I think it’s just a matter of time before they make a site where you can put the cards in and see the chances of getting saved and the points.
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>>546246976
Right imo. Yuki wants tons of draws so it's easy to hit max stacks.
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Where do I get more money
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>>546246976
I'd go with middle
Easier to get to big numbers, gets buffed better, and has inspiration so it activates her upgrade freezing blade for extra damage (the other two lose insp)
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>>546246976
Mutlihits are generally busted but besides this one she doesn't really have any more so it's not worth building around. Third one seems like it has the most damage potential for her, or at the very least similar damage potential to the multihit one while also having retain so that seems like the best one.
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>>546246976
Right is single target. Bear in mind. Only middle is inspiration. But the others do have bonuses. Retain and left will cost 0 after 3 uses.
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>>546246976
If she was launch unit the right card won't have a limit
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>>546246976
By default, right, you hurt your single target bigly without it. You can also just hold it for dead turns where you don't draw into anything.
If you have all-attack equipment or a damage buffer (morale generator, rei, etc), left is viable.
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>other characters talk about the story
>(You) The captain
>Umm...
>....
>Uh... Huh?
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>Yuki event
>Void chaos
????
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>>546247370
he's literally me
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>>546247382
the REAL banner is coming soon
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As much as I despise the cheap MTL, what I detest more is their dishonesty about not using AI. If things don't improve I can't see myself continuing the game for particularly long. I won't tolerate such disrespect.
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>>546247382
Yeah it's retarded
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>360 points
so boss cards are weighted differently
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>>546247428
Is Chizuru void?
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>>546247491
man what the fuck
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>>546247382
>she's not even released and she's still being mogged by chizuru
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>>546247505
She does have purple sword
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So did they change Renoa's personality in the event?
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she is literally on the spectrum, CUTE!

a shame all of this is getting retconned, right?
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>>546247557
way more for (You), yes.
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>>546247491
Bet they're gonna nuke everything that passes 220+ faint memory
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I hate Renoa so much
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>>546247557
2 inch made them do it
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>902 / 255 / 8
yo make a new thread already
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ok but really though, yuki is garbage
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Dumb question
If i use a "remove" card it will still add save data points?
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I hate renoa so much
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>>546247807
First remove = 0 pts.
Second remove = +10 pts.
Third remove = +30 pts.
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>>546247807
[Remove] never triggers points costs and transformed Basic cards don't trigger their additional removal cost.
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>>546247667
So my 210 still safe?
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It's complete bullshit that they told us how it works and we're still gonna have to wait for a real person to tell us how it actually works.
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>>546247491
Do you have screenshot of your deck prior to ending the run? That'll help calculate the points.
- 3 removals of basic/unique cards (20 + 30 + 70)
- 1 monster card (80)
- 1 divine epi on monster card (20)
- 1 duped monster card (80?)
- 1 duped divine epi on monster card (20)
- 1 neutral (20)
Total 340, not sure what else is missing because I don't know your original deck
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Which one? Based on what I red, the upgrade has the best choices of epiphanies followed by the skill right?
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So using this is better than removing a basic, no? This will be removed on Save Data
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>>546248124
So adding and removing a neutral is 0?
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how much do you get of this per 4* and 5*?
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>>546248124
I don't but that other kefox had divine epiphany and it was actually three copies
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>>546248124
>>546248238
and I had removed deluge
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Thought they were making the first zero chaos map a day free
>>546248124
First basic removal was zero isnt it? Think that's what the faq section said
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Is she usable on Yuki?
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>>546239474
*pull on the standard banner before they release more bricks
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>>546248124
Calculate this one for me please
>>546242314
I want to know how 2 monster cards can have 80 points
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>>546248426
Yes
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>>546248426
she's the only option for yuki
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>>546248152
Unless they've outright lied to us, yes this will only cost 10 points.
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Who is the best partner from the battle pass? And why?
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Whose a good fit for Orlea + Tressa besides the knot man.
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>>546248480
Hot wheels?
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>>546248534
Any draw slow bwo
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>>546248535
I assumed anon was talking from a f2p pov, obviously west is the bis for yuki
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>Adelheid is also for (You)
I kneel Smilegate
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Yuki is actually worst than Owen
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I'm at 60/70 cap which her unique cards are worth removing?
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>>546246976
the problem with the right one is it doesn't trigger her upgrade card so it's worse than it looks. imo inspiration -2 cost is the best one by far so just take the one that's useful this run.
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looking at my save data regular epiphanys on your character cards doesn't increase faint memory
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>>546248525
Nyx.
>why
Discard up to 3 and draw whatever you discarded +1.
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>>546248638
Is this your first time removing? You don't have Mika's attack so I'm guessing this will be the 2nd time?
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>>546248534
Cassius
>>
I RAN OUT OF MONEY
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>>546248706
yeah its +10 if its not one of her basics
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>>546248681
>does triple the damage of any of other other cards and can be used without the shitty ass inspiration mechanic
>well ackshually its pretty bad because doesn't activate 60% damage
stop giving advice retarded faggot
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>>546248692
U mean the random cards you get throughout the battle?
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>>546248756
Removing basic cards also costs points anon.
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>draw 2 other combatant cards
>draws 2 Mika cards
>repeat 10 times
shit's rigged
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>>546248694
Alright, thank you
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>>546248694
also +8% dmg
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>starts the event
>Orlea can't stop moaning
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>>546248784
no the non god ones
this would have been 90 if they counted, 1 basic remove + 2 god epiphs
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>>546248626
She is the worst 5* so yeah
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>>546248802
I know, removing a basic is +20 thats why I'm considering removing a unique instead since its only +10 for removing a 2nd time. Is my calc wrong?
>>
Save Card Calcs
Reminder that if your save is higher than the tier cap, the game will randomly delete or replace one of your cards with a basic card until the number drops to the tier cap

You don't gain any points for gaining unique cards tied to your character.

Neutral Cards = 20pts
Monster Cards = 80pts

Regular Epiphany= 0 points for Basic and Unique cards, +10pts for Neutral and Monster
Divine Epiphany = 20pts

Card Removal = 0pts for the first card, then +10/30/50/70. Also +20 if it's a basic card
Duplication = 0pts for the first time, then +10/30/50/70. Also add 10/20 for epiphany
Convert = 10pts. Plus points for epiphany

Forbidden card = 20pts but saved 100% of the time

Your save cap is basically 30+Your tier. That's basically it
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>>546249036
>Monster Cards = 80pts
This has been debunked.
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>>546249036
>Monster Cards = 80pts
Seems to be incorret
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Which one, I can animate 1 more.
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>>546249036
And gear?
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>>546249181
Subdue seems obvious.
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>>546249091
>>546249150
What's the right number?
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>>546248619
We are her knight in shining armor
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>>546249226
30
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YO MAKE NEW WTF GUYS
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>we will explain how memory work
>'explain'
>still 0 clue how it actually work
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>>546249091
>>546249150
Huh? That's what in-game help says.
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>>546249226
30 is the running assumption.
>>546249276
They did and got deleted. The nightmare is ending.
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>our only threadmakers got banned
ano...
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This gacha is going too fucking strong so far guys
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Uhh... that's a child.
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This is the last one
Sorry
Yuki killed the game
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>>546249338
No, anon. Be more specific.
That's a child soldier.
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>>546249202
They are saved 100% of the time. Unless there's something I'm missing
>>546249319
>>546249265
I see
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>>546249298
>That's what in-game help says.
Yes, and if there's a single thing that anyone has learned from playing this game, it's that you can't trust a single fucking line of text.
>>546241891
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How hard is it to hire a translator... surely it doesn't cost that much...
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>>546249338
And?
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>>546249091
>>546249150
>>546249226
>>546249265
>>546249298
>>546249319
>>546249417
>>546241891

APOLOGEMS SOON
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Thinking about picking up this NTR game,

Extremely important, how TALL is the new blonde shield girl?
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So they are already rewriting the story huh
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>>everyone excited for the new patch
>Yuki turned out to be a brick (as expected)
>translation somehow got worse
>save data explanation didn't explain a thing
the devs can't get a single thing right.
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>>546249036
>Regular Epiphany= 0 points for Basic and Unique cards
>Card Removal = 0pts for the first card, then +10/30/50/70. Also +20 if it's a basic card
>Duplication = 0pts for the first time, then +10/30/50/70. Also add 10/20 for epiphany
guess that's why building mei lin is so easy then
remove her shield it's +20, then remove her flying kick it's just +10 for 30 total
dupe epiphany unity is 20 or 40 depending on the # of dupes
that's 50~70 points for a near complete build, w/o divs
if you div her unity, then just keep her flying kick to have som extra room
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>>546249417
Okay, this is getting ridiculous.
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I regret rolling for Yuki
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Ok but how does the point relate to the number on your save
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>surely my Yuki with her 200 damage skills can deal with those normal mobs without a problem
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>>546249226
We assume it's 30 or around it.
Unless they completely changed how save data works, if it was 80 points then most saved data from before the patch wouldn't make sense or be possible.
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>>546249497
yet its still more fun than your mihomo trash, you disgusting tranny. male mc rapes herta every night
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>>546249479
What the actual fuck is that pic
Bro looking mummified and that fat bitch needs to stop eating so much
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>>546241891
WAIT

MAYBE BECAUSE THIS DECK WAS CREATED PRE-PATCH?
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Yuki is so mid, I feel scammed. I'm gonna do a charge back and get banned.
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>>546249691
>>546249691
>>546249691
>>
>he redeemed
saaar dont fall for saar tactics!
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23 millions budget, 20 for renting billboards in Tokyo for a week
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>>546249429
Anon, I think the problem is that they did hire a translator...
Even AI wouldn't be this bad or make mistakes as huge as the ones that showed up this patch
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>>546249479
>>546249619
>me and Renoa. Rei is a pure girl, she's not fat.
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>>546249640
They can barely get their game to work as is, I seriously doubt they tried to rework the save data numbers in the update that was supposed to provide clarity about the very numbers people were confused about.
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>>546249757
Bro you're a zombie
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>>546249619
it's a painting, no?
or a drawing
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LUKE IS BETTER THAN YUKI LMAO
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>>546249181
one question, how many of this did you get from unlocking that? >>546248202
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>>546242118
Why you play Smilegate games then? This is their MO they make fags and trannies the meta and they sell whores on the side, the logic being they treat meta slaves and gooners as separate demographics and want to milk each group best as they can.
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>>546240851
Link to full image.
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>>546245579
>entirely skill based
>gacha
Anyone who even entertains such a notion is retarded.
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>>546246976
Just so you know, the middle one for some reason counts as two casts, triggering your upgrade battou two times. Has potential for a very strong single target build.



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