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Homeless Edition

Previous fraud: >>546352431

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk

-Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/

-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Undertale Image Collections
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba

-Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

-Current whiteboard:
https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/86606244-1794-6245
-Previous whiteboard: https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/86595711-4912-9214
-Magma: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh
-WorldOfText: https://www.ourworldoftext.com/utg

-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-Thread Template
>https://pastebin.com/rTN8SxAw
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>>546410330
lmao
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kek
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>>546410523
Underrated ship imo
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doomin'
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Fave's sappin' mah sentry
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DoomerDEITY the Tasquebrap Slayer
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/utg/ can't grasp the concept of parental love because it has never experienced it

UTTERLY FLABBERGHASTED.
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>>546410710
What a strange thing to enter the thread and say for no reason.
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>>546410710
>leaves father to die
>parental love
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Every night I get that cold vision
It's like when you think your phone's missing
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>>546410834
OP was directed at me.
these women are getting spicy.
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>>546410710
I'm the only man ITT who had good parents and no childhood trauma.
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I’m green!
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TV DAISUKI!! SPAMTENNA DAISUKI!!
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>>546410930
Every night, I go to bed wishing I wouldn't wake up
captcha: WDtd0
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>>546410605
I Know, Right?

>>546410606
*Doomed
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Flave
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okay i will now actually start playing eu5 now, so i might be very slow to reply for the next hour or so.

>>546410293
i think they are bad tempered because you are angry with them, so you are creating a negative spiral of comunication climates.

>>546410337
my quality will improve once i stop jorking it everyday and let my penor rest for a moment

>>546410425
>fellow paradoxfag
oh nice
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>>546410971
>claims to be a man
>posts pippshits
you almost had me.
you sneaky devil!
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>>546411096
>ESL Berdfag #2 still can't type correctly after all these years
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did I miss some new thread lore?
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>>546411181
Yes, you're a stinky newfag
Go archive dive the Chapter 2 threads
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Don't you guys get tired, only talking about each other, going online to fight with the same people day in and day out?
Doesn't it get out?
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>>546411179
>incomprehensible anon babble
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That's not a Lightner, that's a Gay Luigi! Now go away!
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I like posting on the UNDERTALE DELTARUNE GENERAL
y'know
THE UNDERTALE DELTARUNE GENERAL
not the THREAD SHITTER PERSONALITY GENERAL
but the UNDERTALE DELTARUNE GENERAL
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>>546411181
You missed the new thread boar.
His name is piglet.
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>>546411174
Bro what? I thought it was mostly dudes drawing Pippinses. Did I join a girls club?
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my dah
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>>546411315
"I only play the games that I win at."-MF DOOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqQ6vWRvKTc
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utg is dying, post sad faves to mourn
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Hooman.
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>>546411483
Everyone associated with something he doesn't like = woman
Please understand
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>>546410330
you are actually as retarded as they are for making thread drama op. dont do that again unless you want a garbage jo fun thread. we forge the chains we wear in life.
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>>546411154
Then It Will Take You Another Thousands Years Or So
And We Dont Know If The Krautsie-Sapiens Live That Long
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Consensual buttsex with Frisk (female), buttsex rape with Chara (female), marriage with both
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i never got paradox games. they're just boring. obviously, you can spend your time how you want, but if you ask me, it does seem like a bit of a waste of time to play those games. for example, i think if you're playing a paradox game and you're doing an ancient rome playthrough or something, it'd be better to play something like total war rome, since you still get map painting, but you also get these really cool battles that you can watch unfold.
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toby toby toby fox
he be wishing for some glocks
to kill every chapter walkin
he knows that his soul's in his cocks
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>>546411483
I’m a pippin poster and dude
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>>546411509
i want to tongue him so bad
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>>546411315
Let's talk about chapter 5 instead.
Oh, wait...
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>>546411570
/utg/ will not be saved
nobody will shed a tear for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3SwIqVfMoc
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>>546411154
i don't think i should reward their behavior by being nice to terrible people like that.
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>>546411509
Imagine hugging that ass instead
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I love fish
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>>546411591
I thought it was funny sooorrrry it won’t happen again
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>>546411315
It started once the post-chapter 2 rot set in and it just never left. The newfag crops this year weren't up to par and most have withered away so now it's just more rot on top of the previous rot
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>>546411589
you are giving me a hard time believing that something like you has balls.

start acting like it.
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TOBY RAPED ME
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>>546411769
mindbroken
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>>546411572
wifes
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>>546411727
if you lick it you'll shock your tongue
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>>546411935
wow so scary.
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>>546411610
I just play Civ V because it's chill and easy.
I don't need to make decisions I just need more production and gold and culture and there's endless ways to do it.
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>>546411959
What?
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>>546412063
no, more like "sad".
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Tenna's new song from his new album Don't Lick the Screen!
Lyrics:
Don't lick the screen
Don't lick the screeeeenn
Don't lick the screen
Hmmmhmhmm
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>>546412106
broken in the mind, you lack creativity and passion
keep your gossip general, i got better shit to do
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>>546412175
And why doesn't he want me to lick the screen?
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place your bets
how many years does mommy kraut have left?
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>>546411570
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Sex without Toriel
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>>546412081
fair enough. don't let me yuck your yam, enjoy your game. although, if you haven't played it, i do recommend total war: rome. if you can, try and get the original, not the remaster. should be easy enough to find on pirate sites and the like
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>>546412081
I am still mad i can only play as Otto von Bismarck and fucking Friedrich der zweite.

where my austrian homeboy at
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>>546412249
You are taking this personal for some reason.
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Does anyone know if your whiteboard ID changes if your IP address changed?
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i am iceman (i) i am iceman
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Fave ate a whole box of cookies you bought.
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i am a big fan of how japanese corporate headquarters look
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I ate a whole box of faves
without any milk
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i didn't ate :(
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I'm being paid to do nothing right now and you guys are gossiping about thread personalities instead of discussing the game.
How am I supposed to kill time before the end of the day with this shit?
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>>546412883
did you 9?
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>>546412883
Neither did fave.
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uhhh whats your favourite AU

or least cancerous one?
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>>546412883
eat something dignifying and not obese coded
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i have some fucking cartoon on in the background and i just heard it mention "baby bones" as a character's name
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>>546413059
dust
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>>546412950
Okay, what do you think about my schizobabble? https://rentry.org/dranimalmotifs
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>>546412976
fave has no time to eat their too busy serving
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don't worry.
we'll talk about the game AAANNNY day now.
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>>546411969
Based.
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>>546413130
So far, I like it! Very elaborate and well researched.
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>>546413059
canon underfell
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My hands hurt
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>>546412954
i 6 7[\spoiler]
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hey whoever did the ad ideas on the whiteboard that was great i was too busy to do one but I liked them
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>>546413760
TRUE
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>>546413059
TS!Underswap is pretty neat. Most swap-style AUs work well with minimal cringe.
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thrash machine and spamton neo both foreshadow somebody stealing our vessel and that thief will be FRIEND
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>>546413760
was going to type this exact type of post then I forgot. Loved the ad idea. It was super fun to contribute
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>>546413639
Good work, anon. It can be tough if you're bad at one of the minigames and RNG keeps landing on that one that rhythm game...
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>>546413059
X!Tale
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>>546412362
I was never big on strategy in general and was mostly just bad at the popular real time ones.
Age of Empires 3 and Battle For Middle Earth 2 got the most playtime but I also tried Starcraft and Warcraft 3 and some other classics too. Halo Wars was a neat idea that should have been expanded on before that franchise shot itself in the foot.
>>546412396
I play a lot of war mongering order ideology America (canon) and actually enjoy buying discounted tiles with gold but I wish the unique units were more relevant to my interests because by the time they become available I nearly immediately enter the modern era as a scientific powerhouse and have greater interest in boat and artillery spam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LasrD6SZkZk
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>>546413760
yeah they were cute. does the whiteboard have a rectangle tool?

>>546413951
*roulsx
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>>546413839
>Most swap-style AUs work well with minimal cringe.
TRVKE
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>>546414195
>i play a lot of war mongering order ideology america
so you're just historically accurate.
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I have balls
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>>546414430
source?
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>>546414430
Pics for proof?
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post kris in mental anguish
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>>546414384
Yeah that would be why I specified it was cannon.
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>>546413059
the au where im treated as a god and everyone is my sex object
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>>546413951
I think whoever drives Vessel to be Player 2 but FRIEND is the dark echo of Kris not (You)
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>>546413059
i like a lot of the setting change aus. most of them boil down to playing dress up with faves but their a lot of fun
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>>546414195
i remember just taking a whole continent and securing my borders with panzerhaubitzen.

shit was cash.

nukes are shit though.
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>>546414619
That's canon
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>>546414541
>>546414576
I already posted my cock about two weeks ago. I'm sure somebody saved the pic because I don't feel like posting it again.
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>>546414619
we said aus not regular undertale
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>>546414196
yes its under the style option
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>>546414719
Were you the black anon that timestampped?
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>>546414759
>you have to teach women to use the rectangle tool to make rectangles.
how are they allowed to vote.
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>>546414672
I dump 100% of that resource into power plants.
not only are nukes shit but the big immersion breaking death robot also sucks too.
The busted late game unit is just XCOM Squad, also breaking realism.
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i think this is the best snippiP i've ever draw
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>>546414927
you are trying too hard.
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well, Kraut deserves the OP I guess.
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>>546414798
Yes.
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>>546414985
I really like it, I would like you to post more 'gore' snippiP if you have made more, all the ones you might have
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>>546414619
shut up rouxls
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Fuck you too, man >:(
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>>546415072
Your dad fucks dead deer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TGHx0M67Jg

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/716391604/#q716400768
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>>546415127
Oh I see, did you ever get a vacation for it? Just curious
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>>546414759
thanks, it's kind of vague what's a paid option and what's not
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>>546415072
let me just say: hoes mad.
they are either incredibly stupid or not interested in the truth

my gut says its the second.
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It's Ramb o'clock on the whiteboard right now (where is the anchor)
>>546414985
she's so scary yet goofy somehow. I love her
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>>546415152
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>>546415689
rambposting is always goodposting
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>>546415325
Surprisingly not.
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>>546415689
rambpins daisuki
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ramb general
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>>546415915
RAMBPINS!!!!!!!
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some day we will actually talk about the game.
some day there will be quality content.
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What if Susie was a crack addict? How would that change deltarune and it's themes and everything?
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This big lad is going to steal hearts when he makes his valiant return.
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>>546416059
What do you mean "what if"?
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>>546416059
the dark shards are just crack rocks.

they unlock susie's ult.
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>>546415698
I love this one
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Missionary sex with Kris for making fauns.
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>>546416183
I believe in her
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FAVE IS MISSING for Super Nintendo
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Mike's obviously a cat!
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>>546416550
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>>546416510
where she go
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>>546416059
Hometown is a very rural county without a lot to do so there's a very decent chance most people there are on fent or some kind of hard drug.
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Luigi as noelle and mario as dess
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I want to draw an emotional comic about rambpins when she first showed up/started working in TV world and was called weird by the other pippins but then Ramb started talking to her and he was the only persona kind to her up until that point and it caused her to become obsessed with british culture to make ramb like her but DRAWING IS HARD
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Just chillin'
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>>546416034
Please oh please tell us, what of the game shall we as a congregation speak of, o holy one?
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>>546416621
to flipping heck
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>>546416034
got this susie yet?
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>>546414927
if you teach a bitch how to rectangle she'll rectangle for life
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>>546416919
H-E-double hockey sticks......
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Has anyone pointed out for Greenster Theory that the left hospital room has a red guy and the right hospital room has CONSISTENTLY had blue people
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>>546416734
i want to do this thing nobody but a specific sect of catladies enjoys but doing thing is hard so i will write how i want to do thing but wont do thing please encourage me i am a piece of shit

you make homosexuality almost appealing

go write your story about gay OC tonguepunching that has nothing to do with deltarune.
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>>546416726
do you think dess ever gave noelle an unplugged controller and told her she was playing as the npcs?
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>>546416734
I felt that way too but then I just started drawing anyways and stopped caring about my chicken scratches looking bad. Just for the sake of getting it out of the way so I can move on to the next thing.
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>>546416968
>>546416034
oops
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>>546417027
There is a room between
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>>546416034
We're only able to make fun of you so easily because you keep blogposting
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>>546417081
dude pippins aren’t the ones who killed your dad bro
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>>546417245
It's the delivery room.
Fave giving birth, my babies :)
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>>546417090
She does this and somehow it actually works and the NPCs also start bleeding everywhere
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>>546417245
Yeah I'm adding onto that part
Gaster in between 2 rooms, red on left, blue on right? Where have I seen this before?
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>>546417081
angy
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>>546417421
is there any content of gaster being sans and papyrus's wacky roommate since people figured that one out
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>>546417563
i liek gote
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>>546417081
Why do you let other people stop doing what you find fun that harms none? bit cucked krautsie bro

if anyone needs ideas, think of a character and roll this.

https://perchance.org/character-headcanon-generator-improved
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>>546417421
Greenster = Ralsei?
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>>546416968
no, i didn't.
thanks tasquetard.

you're a real one.
>>546416836
WE SHALL DISCUSSETH THE FOLLOWINGUE:

HWAET ART THOU THREE FAVORITE SONGS PER CHAPTEUR

HWAET IST THINE FAVORITE?

HWAET DOTH THOU FEELETH CHAPTEUR 5 WILLE BE LIKE?
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feeding fave cereal through the screen like the Ryan gosling vines
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>>546417563
Fag (My Fag)
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Gaster In Between = Green Ant Website
Ants have gasters
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>>546417701
Yay!
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>>546417421
The door in their house.
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uhh anchor i had stuff to do reply with your latest work
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>>546417696
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>>546417680
i simply hate the women mindset of communicating intent and doing nothing, wanting asspats and having tismfits that haunt you because women can't play nice.

as much as it pains me to admit this, but /utg/ actually does better with man on man faggots.
women are derivetive, off-topic and alltogether a pain to deal with.

nothing you do is either good enough, but they deliver trash.
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Krautsie is venting over how he has to take care of mommy dearest to survive
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>>546418005
I simply hate women
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>>546417696
The most suspicious part about Ralsei's green room fitting between Susie and Kris's is that it DIDN'T until Chapter 4. He rearranged the rooms to have Susie on the left when her room was on the right before.
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How to quickly save art from 4chan? It takes me too much time to save and name everything,
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I simply love women because I suckle booba
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>>546417701
THE WORLD REVOLVING, Lantern, Chaos King
BIG SHOT, Smart Race, My Castle Town
SWORD, Black Knife, Paradise Paradise
From Now On, Third Sanctuary, Air Waves
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>>546418197
nice.
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dice made from carved bone that turns into spear throwing tribal pippins
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>>546418042
she's beautiful
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>>546417956
I posted this in the last thread, but I didn't anchor it, so here it is again
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>>546416059
Noelle would make Susie her crack whore and hire Kris to film Dino Gaggers
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>>546418228
if ralsei is faking being a poor little guy with no possessions i think the fandom will legitimately murder him
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Okay Toby you’ve been real cute incorporating lyrics into Don’t Forget and a lot of Spamton’s themes and all the musical stuff that keeps getting brought up in the story like how Kris plays piano and how Dess loves rock music and owns a guitar.
If we don’t get a kino vocal moment like this https://youtu.be/c0TrZjLY2DE&t=116 in a song at some point I’m going to be disappointed in you.
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>>546418005
Hate to break it to you, but as a guy that dated both genders (and a tranny, never again) both are capable to be as cowardly, impotent raging and underhanded. do you hate masculine women and feminine men too?
Point is, embrace general misanthropy.

>>546418359
Floof <3
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>>546417701
Chaos King, Scarlet Forest, A Town called Hometown
My Castle Town, Lost Girl, Smart Race
TV World, Ruder Buster, Black Knife
Second Sanctuary, Third Sanctuary, Guardian
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Which vidya OST composer could beat Toby in a Compose-off?
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>* huh, neat. i could use some skin on these bones.
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>>546418597
Tim Follin
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Noelle tries to play Tetris and it somehow turns into creepypasta blood EXE scary anyway
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>>546418597
ryo umemoto
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>>546418556
Whoops.
https://youtu.be/cQTrZjLY2DE&t=116
There we go.
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>>546418597
Uematsu.
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>>546418261
Based.
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>>546418597
U.Z. Inu
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>>546418305
Vs. Susie, Friendship, The World is Revolving.
Spamton, Pandora Palace, I dance like this...
Sword, Doom Board, Raise up your bats
From now on, Third Sanctuary, Guardian


i really liked pushing buddies and raft ride in ch3.
ch4 has so many gems that i can fill a top 10 with them.
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>>546418691
What if every game Noelle plays turns into creepypasta bullshit but she never recognizes it as weird because to her, that's jsut a normal video game experience.
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>>546418896
To her
Crazy Frog
Is just normal frog…
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>>546418841
>I dance like this...
I've never seen someone say a Sweet Cap'n Cakes song is one of their favorites.
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>>546418582
>men are little bitches that openly communicate intent and then open themselves to scrutiny like that, letting everyone know how much of a garbage creaton they are

that sounds like fake news.
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>>546418505
The clown and the Pussy-cat went to sea.
In a beautiful hand-sewn boat
They took some cards, and plenty of shards,
Wrapped up in an old man's note.
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>>546418505
peaceful
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I just realized that like 85% of my Pippin OCS are males... I gotta fix that
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>>546418597
Cazok
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>>546418597
Yoko Shimomura.
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>>546419103
Pippins are male coded
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Kris tells Susie to make a wallet noise and she just says "WALLET"
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We need Pippin futas
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>>546419171
yes I watch guball
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>>546419048
don't get me wrong, the characters felt SO out of place, but i really felt the upbeat nature of the song.
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>>546417701
sure why not
faves:
>UT: frisk and flowey
>DR: ERAM and the knight, ralsei as a close second
Ch1:the world revolving, vs susie, fohad
Ch2: welcome to the city, attack of the killer queen, big shot
Ch3:ruder buster, black knife, glaceir
Ch4:from now on, third sanctuary, guardian

I think chapter 5 is going to have multiple short dark fountains, and there's going to be a stricter time limit to close them all before the roaring happens (probably only in universe though, not an actual time limit). This will cause the main party significant stress, and might even lead to them splitting up.
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>>546419178
any female pippins can be a futa if they get a bad rng roll
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>>546419178
We need to send you to the fucking gallows.
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>>546418379
Wow they are the unevolved pippinses! They still hunt to survive
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>>546419279
I am not affiliated with the disappearance of Dess
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>>546419329
Ralsei you can't say tribal people are unevolved.
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>>546418228
There's no meaning to it. Toby forgot and game maker is such a shit engine to fix it would be 3 weeks of development due to how many things downstream it would break.
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>>546419159
based
the best video games composer to ever life, in my opinion
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>>546419307
i have made a zillion schizoposts about how i believe ch5 goes, but its all conjecture.

>faves flowey, eram
are you me?
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>>546419054
just a theory, I found it true in some cases, physically weak men act like ''women'' as they can't talk shit and expect to not get knocked into the ground. I knew a punk girl that acted like a dude but she legit knew how to fight so nobody challenged her. Thoughts?
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>>546419369
but I have raw footage of you plunging her into the dark dimension because she ate your cereal >:(
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>>546418597
Graeme Norgate
Alexander Brandon
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>>546418597
Yuka Kitamura. Toby's a pretty good composer but only one of these people composed the OST for the Souls series and it wasn't him.
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>>546419464
toby actually mentioned in one of the newsletters that chapter 1-5 would need to be combined into 1 chapter at some point, from a gamemaker development point of view
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>>546419480
agreed, she is a gigantic reason why LoM is one of my favorite games in spite of its uh quirks
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>>546419605
i have been mistaken for you at least once sadly
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>>546419605
Mine is flower shop.
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>>546418896
What does it mean that Noelle found ice palace anyway?
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what if a yn entered the dark world
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tasquedeer the corpse lover
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>>546419307
Multiple dark fountains in separate locations is a very logical escalation from chapter 4 having multiple dark fountains in one location. Plus, going by reverse UT theory, chapter 5 should be Snowdin, but Snowdin is actually two distinct areas (the forest and the town) so one dark world to fill the role of the forest and one to fill the role of the town makes sense. And chapter 6 will likely be centered on either the shelter or the entire town, neither of which correspond well with the Ruins, so chapter 5 may have the Ruins counterpart too. I think Flower King will probably have that role.
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>>546419943
Kris is a young nigga.
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>>546419821
yeah, naw it IS the flower shop or at least close-by but what is important WHY.
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kris is a soft nigga nigga is stink.
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>>546419464
>Toby forgot
He didn't forget, Ralsei explicitly says that the rooms are mixed up.
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>>546418379
technically any dice or darkner made of plastic can revert to a primal state based on what fossilized material the oil for their plastic was sourced from
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>>546420029
Maybe Asgore had enough and makes a fountain? may the knowledge ''how to'' is instinctual or conveyed in dream/psychic link. Asgore's a bit of a cuck so I doubt it's anger, probably escapism so he can pretend to be a family again?

Did Asgore ever get angry in canon? Undertale has his war declaration when Azzy died.
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Have a job interview in a few hours. Wish me luck.
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>>546419943
I think she'd so fine for herself
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>>546420029
Probably Dess lore nvkes because Asgore's current state in life is so heavily tied to the disappearance
I would be extremely surprised if Chapter 5 didn't give us any huge Dess-related reveals
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>>546419917
Noelle is a magnet for creepypasta shit because she's Gaster's favorite character and he's the author of the universe
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>>546420398
>I think she'd so fine for herself
??? nigga what??? esl??? huh??? am I retarded???
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>>546420380
Let me give you a blowjob so you aren't pent up when you go in
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nigga can't write nigga is illiterate
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>>546417701
Shit, this discussions tuff. As far as favorite songs go, the list looks something like this

Chapter 1: Field of Hopes And Dreams - Scarlet Forest - THE WORLD REVOLVING

Chapter 2: A CYBER'S WORLD? - Pandora's Palace - BIG SHOT

Chapter 3: Paradise, Paradise - Ruder Buster - It's TV Time!

Chapter 4: From Now On (Battle 2) - Second Sanctuary - GUARDIAN

if someone was pointing a gun at my and demanding that I named a favorite, I'd probably have to say... Second Sanctuary. I dunno why, it's just so offbeat and weird. That combination tends to do wonders for my ears.

I feel chapter 5 is gonna be like, super emotional for everyone involved. I got a theory that like, ralsei is gonna get a secret boss fight, where it's just him and the secret boss, kinda like what Susie got in chapter 4.
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>>546420380
good luck rouxls, hope you find a good big shot to play second fiddle to
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>>546420457
her name is yummy nicky
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Sans Undertale vs Solaire Dark Soul
WHO WILL WIN?
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>>546420702
Well Sans can be defeated by a toddler so I guess the other guy
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>>546420531
How many niggas is too many niggas before you get banned from 4chum...
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>>546420380
There are no jobs
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>>546417701
>HWAET DOTH THOU FEELETH CHAPTEUR 5 WILLE BE LIKE?
i think it will go off the fucking rails, it will totally dissolve all previous formulas even more than 3 and 4 did. i don't think we can predict anything at all.
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T-Toby... slow down...
I know you promised an early look at chapter 5, b-but you're hurting me...
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so did toby blow his load with the Titan? this fallen angel of pure darkness ala Abaddon/Apollyon(named the PIT LORD) was a bit of an anticlimax compared to the (likely) inspiration from Christian mythos. Apollyon is so strong Satan doesn't mess with him.

Are Titans a joke? should we fear them at all?
One headcanon is ''oh it was a youngTitan''
They are forces of nature, a young cyclone will still fuck your shit up?
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>>546420847
Then how did he just land an interview, chud
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuCJttSasDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU5N84F8bxc
remember this guy?
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>>546420995
no dude trust me chapter 5 will be about asgore/sans/asriel mentoring ralsei because it'll just be gerson again because every schizoboss is just the last one again
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>>546421032
HR trying to justify its existence
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>>546417701
In order from best to “worst”.
CH1: Darkness Falls, Vs Susie, Don’t Forget
CH2: BIG SHOT, Knock You Down!!, Lost Girl
CH3: BURNING EYES, Black Knife, Raise Up Your Bat
CH4: SPAWN, The Third Sanctuary, A DARK ZONE
I love https://youtu.be/DqbzExv7wNI but it didn’t make my top 3, it’s underrated. It has this wistful feeling to it that I love.
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friend nigga, fave nigga
blue nigga, raped nigga
still nigga
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>>546420280
I wouldn't be surprised if asgore knew how to open a dark fountain. He recognizes the black Shard in Carol's room and seems to still be working the dess case if his conspiracy board is anything to go by. He isn't an angry person, but he is incredibly duty-focused, so opening dark fountains to to try and fix his biggest mistake seems plausible.

My biggest schizo theory is that asgore has been training the colored flowers to open dark fountains. Chapter 3 shows that they kind of sort of count as lighters, and asgore talks to them a lot. He's going to sneak them all around town as festival decorations, and use the multiple simultaneous fountain openings as a way to to enter the depths, which is the only place he hasn't checked for dess. I have zero evidence to back this up, I just think it would be cool.
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>>546421137
Actually the next chapter is going to be a four hour rape scene where Asgore rapes Ralsei with his huge goat cock. I have an uncle who blows Toby so I know this stuff.
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Consensual, vanilla sex with fave
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>>546421187
>training the flowers

ok that's kind of cool, imagine 1 is a secret boss because Kris shittalked it's self esteem through the floor.
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>>546419605
You don't like the best one (Frisk) so you can't be him
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Statutory rape with or by fave
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handholding with fave
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>>546421145
Oh and my favourite is Darkness Falls.
Oh and as for Chapter 5,
I think Asgore being a focal point in it and Flower King probably being the location for the Dark World are a given, but I can’t help but feel that it’s going to be Chapter 4 but even more serious in terms of tone. I really think 1-3 were the calm before the storm so to say.
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Fave pushing me towards a bisexual threesome but I don't feel entirely comfortable about it.
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Any new snowbunny art?
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>>546419917
If the Dark Worlds symbolize fiction and how we interact with it, Noelle being able to manifest Dark World effects in the real world means uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>546421504
he didn’t return yet
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>>546418583
As for chapter 5. I don't know anymore. I don't trust Toby Fox anymore. This is the last chance for him to redeem himself.
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>>546421049
One thing I hate about outrage culture is that those videos suck, not just for the bait-level takes but because they're low quality with godawful audio. But people on social media decided to share with their large followers how bad his videos are, exposing more people to them and giving him the views he wanted.
It literally would've been better if people just ignored him instead of complaining.
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>>546421187
>Chapter 3 shows that they kind of sort of count as lighters
It seems like the opposite to me. The cactus suddenly gains the ability to talk and apparently changes appearance significantly although we don't see it. Lightners don't change that much from their light world forms beyond their outfits and Kris's blueness, only Darkners change that much, so the cactus is probably a Darkner.
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>>546421576
noelle is on the path to achieving CHIM
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>>546421463
The festival will probably be a fairly long "breather" section before Chapter 5 cranks the angst back up again in the Dark World
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>>546421137
ralsei's issues are he is a living object born with awful inevitable knowledge

who the fuck would even be in that paygrade to talk him out of that?
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>>546419917
It’s probably tied to the prophecy.
She’s a part of it in some way whether she be the angel of the girl or whatever.
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>>546421576
Except their religion is not fiction to them. It is their greatest truth.
>>546421049
He had every right to criticize. Every right to not play into the pronoun nonsense.
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>>546421187
the only problem with the asgore started a dark fountain/the knight grinded its way through various dark fountains to gain xp theories is, wouldn't ralsei notice if a dark fountain got opened? he can sense that shit right
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>>546420380
If the job involves pointing you got nothing to fear and can consider yourself employed. Good luck anyway.
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Kris's cumsock as a schizoboss
What secret knowledge does it have?
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>>546421695
Personally I think the Festival is going to go awry instantly because Susie's freaking out about the prophecy and we're bound to finally get some actual fucking Dess lore
The tone curve will be more like upsetting -> bright spot -> extremely upsetting setting up chapter 6
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Crusader of Light feels like one of those dudes writing paragraphs of culture war autismfits in Mario movie threads
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>>546421860
what if you open a dark fountain inside a dark fountain and stabbed your soul so the nexus/beginning point is the SOUL? do you evolve into some titan/soul monstrosity? Twilight Titan? Dusk Demon?

Kris strikes me as a 2010's emo kid so they may be more willing to comply than you'd expect.
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>>546421049
No. QRD? >>546421137
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>>546421860
Also you need a human soul (potentially not even just ANY human soul but You specifically) to seal fountains so they'd still be open, and Ralsei implies fountains staying open is baddy bad for the world in some way
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>>546421669
Yeah, but cactus-chan is surprised at their new body, showing that plants have some awareness of the light world in the dark world, which is a trait exclusive to lighters.
It's almost like plants are something in between lightner and darkner
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>>546422061
Man you're fucking giving me vietnam flashbacks, you're not wrong
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>>546422061
I don't care about film that much. There are only a few I really really like. I'm about the vidya. My father cares about film, though.
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>>546421695
it's interesting that the dark worlds started out as empowering escapism from the light world, but now the light worlds have become the fun gang's escapism from the knight kicking their shit in

>>546422083
stabbing yourself like an edgetard won't do shit. the dark fountains come from the EARTH
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>>546421714
Sans Undertale would be someone he could have a real conversation about it with
Unfortunately he's stuck with Sans Deltarune
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>>546422061
kek you’re right, same obsession with gallant knights (so to speak) saving princesses and all
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>>546421656
i think these video essays suck in general. what would be better if these people that critiqued these games, instead of making these video essays, actually went into the games in a raw format, like a lets play of sorts, and actually talked about why they dont like certain aspects of the game in said live format. they would actually have to think instead of reading off a heavily edited script. i think we can just get rid of video essays about video games in general and just replace it with this.
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>>546422083
It wouldn’t do anything.
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>>546422287
okay, how about standing on the titan's spawnpoint?
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>>546422287
step 1: cover yourself in dirt
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>>546422361
Scripted content is completely valid as a way of critique, in fact it’s better then flying by the seat of your pants since if you do that you’ll be less effective in your analysis.
The problem is that that faggot and other people like him can’t write for shit.
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>>546422316
>it's this
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>>546422361
That's a retarded idea
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>>546422287
>it's interesting that the dark worlds started out as empowering escapism from the light world, but now the light worlds have become the fun gang's escapism from the knight kicking their shit in
To be fair, the dark worlds were really only escapism for Susie. Kris and Ralsei know more than they let on and they're both hiding things from her. Also Kris is probably miserable the whole time because the dark worlds are a constant reminder of their past trauma.
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Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
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>>546422783
if the bloodied cage means anything, kris has been grinding this shit for a while
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>>546422537
I do agree with you, but seeing people on fucking /utg/ complain about bad writing when you yourself can't put together a decent post, let alone a good script for a video essay is fucking mind numbing
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>>546422830
Bad night, have terrible nightmares
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>>546417081
>you make homosexuality almost appealing
nice, another victory for the gay goats

>>546417675
>>546417754
same and true

>>546418359
he's so cute :)

>>546420380
good luck fren, also this >>546420514


>>546422830
sleep well fren
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Goatnight
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what are we drawing/writing tonight /utg/
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Goatnut
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>>546422783
Not just a reminder of trauma but also wholly premeditated as a part of the Knight's prophecy manipulation plan so it's not even a real cool adventure for them
I think the Shadow Crystal quests are important especially because they're the only real adventures Kris, Susie and Ralsei go on together that aren't tainted by that
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>>546423323
I saw some meme drawing tutorials on my fyp and now I kinda want to learn how to draw
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>>546423323
I am working on some concept art for a game I'm making.
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>>546423075
Wtf is this real???
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>>546423430
i can see the gerson or jevil crystal maybe being a fun group adventure, but kris has a breakdown after fighting NEO and a panic attack while fighting the knight
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>>546422783
Is there anyone in the main cast that ISN'T actively hiding shit from each other
I can only think of Lancer
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>>546422760
how exactly? an actual smart person that is worth listening to would be able to make sharp comments on the spot about what they're looking at, without the help of a refined script. not sure why this is in any way, controversial.
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>>546423598
Yes. Femboy Kris is real and he's in alligator Alcatraz right now, if you can get past the crocodiles he's all yours
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>>546423649
it really is amazing how quickly and unjustly ralsei has shed his reputation of being a shifty little fuck
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Good night my lovelies.
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>>546421183
https://files.catbox.moe/0p7iua.mp4
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>>546423790
but anon, he cried and was sad about it
he can do no wrong
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>>546423649
i wanna know why alvin seemed to know that the bunker was weird and fucked up
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>>546423790
I highly doubt he's evil but he's undeniably still hiding key prophecy info
I mean the entire "SUSIE DON'T LOOK" happened AFTER he promised to stop hiding things so it's not like he's sticking to his word at all
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>>546419103
Tryinggggg
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>>546423632
The adventure not necessarily being fun is also important
What kind of adventure doesn't have danger and facing your fears
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>>546422830
Good night.
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>>546422359
What's wrong with m ights saving princesses
>>546422361
Hey, that's kinda what I do
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>>546423467
do it, always do it, even if it's just a little and you never plan to get good

>>546423525
ooh im listening if you want to say stuff... (im doing the same thing)
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>>546424123
Toby could sell this Ralsei plush for $20 and make a million dollars but he doesn't even need it anymore.
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>>546423323
porn
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>>546424349
but *we* do. that's the thing.
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>>546423691
I think critique via going through the game from beginning to end is generally super boring. I already played the game, I just want to hear the criticisms.
A good video essay/analysis knows how to structure the video to be engaging while delivering the information in a concise manner.
Examples of good video essayists/analysts I would say are Matthewmatosis and Every Frame a Painting.
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>>546424267
This is a lil sketch I did a little bit ago for some environments.
I've been slow with working on it the past few weeks because of work and art fatigue and art block. I do most of my stuff in Krita, and I've had the worst time with time with line art. I found some nice brushes that seem to be really good for line art though so I'll probably get back up to pace again over the weekend.
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>>546422232
>which is a trait exclusive to lighters.
No it's not. Tenna is clearly aware of the light world including the layout of the living room and that he's a TV, Ramb knows he's a power strip, Queen knows she's a laptop, etc. Most Darkners know what their light world form looks like and know what happens around them in the light world. Even Lancer knows he's being carried in Kris's pants pocket.
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>>546424084
I guess another way to think of it is like this
On the normal path Kris is mostly just going through the motions of the plan
On the Shadow Crystal quests Kris is really living for the first time in probably a long while
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>>546424081
I like her. is she wearing a green flower mask over her face or are those vines? She reminds me of a minecraft villager
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>>546423751
Hey I know all about the timed hits man, crocodiles ain't nothing with those timed hits
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>>546421504
He will return eventually. In these lean and hungry times, we'll have to make do on our own until then.
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https://youtu.be/83zu_7xa_m4
I found a bossa nova cover of the world revolving, with Japanese lyrics.
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>>546424865
Enjoying
the youthful days
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I think... I need a goat to cuddle
Goodnight utg
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>>546425228
That does sound nice. Sleep tight.
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>>546424737
looks pretty cool, i like the furtive inset windows. sounds like me. art troubles have backseated my work on it for months now but it's always in my mind. i am also a kriter and fuck line art. doing a line layer over a sketch layer ruins my brain, if that's giving you grief consider just refining sketches directly or having your sketch be your lineart. both provided better results for me. good luck with all your endeavors.
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>>546424684
Better than regurgitating the same opinion that's been said ad nauseum by everyone else.
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>>546423284
>>546423343
>>546423863
>>546424092
>>546425228
sleep well frens :)
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>>546424781
I can't believe there's people who still think the [Heaven] Spamton was trying to reach is just the Light World and not REAL LIFE
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>>546425017
Oh hey I forgot about these albums
They're pretty good
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>>546424901
She's wearing a flower crown with vines
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>>546423323
Making sprites for my autism game (only 1 animation has been completed yet I already wanna kill myself)
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>>546423919
One of the shelter codes is linked to the church, he obviously has that code which means he must know about it.
>>546423632
>a panic attack while fighting the knight
Meanwhile, in reality:
>Kris held their breath...
>Kris smiled.
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>>546424781
I think what he meant was that plants function like Lightners in that they're not aware of the Dark World side until brought into it
None of the Darkners are surprised about their new forms or the Dark World existing
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I think I pulled something
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>>546425567
Kris I'm watching your narration why are you tryin not to laugh
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>>546425614
the strings?
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>>546425313
Have you tried these brushes out?
These use a different way of processing your strokes and make nicer lines without needing too much smoothing.
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>>546424123
Nobody draws Ralpins even though it's a canon Pippins variant
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>>546425659
my susan kinda homeless
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Messed around with a 3D scene but using 2D stuff in Godot. Thought it would be a little easier and could give some small bonuses due to having a 3rd dimension, but I quickly realized 2D is already letting me do everything I want + looks how I want with 0 set up or messing around.
I'm still very impressed by the 3D mixing DELTARUNE does for stuff. I can tell it was a pain in the ass, and I never bothered with 3D in Gamemaker at all. A full on 3D boss fight (with 2D sprites for our characters of course) would be really sick actually, and now I'm wondering if they wanted to do this with the Titan but couldn't get it to work.
I am still very sick.
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god loves fags
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Gaster being a psychologist in Deltarune instead of being a engineer or physicist like he is in Undertale is a very kino twist that still results in him being a Doctor and explains the title “Another Him” and why he would be interested in Dark Fountains since they’re entirely influenced by people’s thoughts and emotions
Bravo Toby
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>>546425343
I am a female human bro, I just wanted to be nice.
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>>546425585
The cactus isn't surprised though, just self-conscious about looking different. Presumably they have a more humanoid form which makes their kokoro go dokidoki because they could feasibly fuck Kris in that form.
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>>546425853
I'm 320 pounds and working to finally change it now that I'm on Zepbound. Being obese sucks but my food drive / cravings / etc are fucking absurd and have been since childhood. My new medicine has been life changing.
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>>546425938
being a female is ok
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>>546425567
read literally any other action line from the fight lol
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>>546424684
i don't know a lot about the other person since i am not that into films as i am with video games but i'm not sure why you mentioned matthewmatosis who is well known for having extremely long video essays that span into multiple hours. that isn't concise at all. if you get bored from a person explaining why they like or dislike certain attributes in a raw, long, unedited format, you could turn on some background music or 2x the video. that's what i usually do. again, i value these types of videos more than anything by matthewmatosis or every frame a painting because you get to look at a raw unfiltered opinion by a human unfold in real time. which today, is worth more than gold, since everyone on earth is really just trying to be the next matthewmatosis or nakeyjakey or really anyone in that sort of sphere rather than truly expressing themselves.
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>>546425659
Battle narration probably isn't from Kris. It changes style to match the boss (broken English versus Jevil, Spamspeak versus Spamton, etc) and also frequently refers to Kris in the third person, while Kris's flavor text is all second person.
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>>546426030
>t. evil kraut
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>>546426320
>critiques that are scripted can’t be genuine
Actual delusional take.
Undertale and Deltarune are fucking scripted.
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>>546426412
cute
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>>546425852
like the TTYD remake?
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>>546426470
you mean toby doesn't just make everything up as he goes along? i thought that's why gaster's first name is wing because he's winging it?
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>>546426320
NTA but
>extremely long video essays that span into multiple hours
Unlike live-commentated video game playthroughs?
>you could turn on some background music or 2x the video
You aren't even watching shit at that point, it's just sludge pouring into your ears without any absorption.
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Kris has a realistic panic attack after the Knight touches his no no place
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>>546426030
No, I mean I like female humans. I am not a w*man.
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>>546426368
Kraut loves women.
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If we follow the Susie Gaster train of thought then Deltarune is a lot more similar to Princess Tutu than we realize.
Gaster is Drosselmeyer who set all the characters up with a cruel fate. Susie is Fakir who has the ability to rewrite the story and change the ending. Yes the final conflict will literally be a fight against the author for control of the narrative.
You guys should watch Princess Tutu, it blew my fucking mind as a kid.
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>>546426664
being a woman is ok
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>>546426714
princess tutu is goated
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>>546426714
I watched Tutu a few years ago and it was awesome.
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post cute spamtons
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>>546426664
>I am a human female bro
you cant blame them for being confused.
I am the original
humanfemalehumanfemalebro
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I think whats nutty is there are people unironically using AI, tracing it, then calling the finished tracing their "artwork".
You're not an artist
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>>546426538
Do you mean the 2D in 3D or a 3D boss in 2D? I guess they're the same difference actually...
Yeah I was going for something like that, although it's a bit of a pain in the ass and sprites get really crunchy looking at even short distances away from the camera and ehhh. Messed with it for like 10-15 minutes and then realized that a 3rd dimension doesn't add too much, unless you do some kind of weird gimmick.
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>>546426776
Yes, I like when Frisk and Chara are one. However I will never be one and that's good..
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>>546426714
I've had this exact thought before but I didn't post it because I didn't think anyone here watched Princess Tutu
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Is there even any content left for people to make new theory videos at this point
Like I'm pretty sure everything substantial has already been discussed and you'd have to say Napstablook is the angel or something to avoid retreading shit everyone's already said
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>>546426648
well i said the first part you quoted because this person was suggesting that matthewmatosis was concise, which he isn't. that isn't a bad thing. you can be as concise or as long as you want.
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>>546426673
Of course, she's one after all
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>>546426957
I should've said I am a femalehumanfag instead, actual female human bro.
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>>546426960
aidessfag your response?
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>>546426714
may those who accept their fate be granted happiness
may those who defy their fate be granted glory
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Life or Death for Snowy
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>>546426995
You underestimate our power.
>>546427071
We have a lot more info then we did back in the Chapter 1 and Chapter 2 days so yes, there’s a lot of things that can still be speculated on.
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Clover is a cute girl!
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>>546427126
>A female red-haired Neo-Nazi going on and on about how much they hate Jews
If Kraut was a woman, a lot of people here would simp hard and that's a fact, jack.
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>>546425669
tried them now. they're nice but nonstandard brush engines freak me out. maybe i could learn to work with them but i already have a set i have developed and messing with my brushes gives me the vapors
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>>546427071
In the surge of new content post chapters 3 and 4 I've come to notice I find videos and essays analyzing the actual content of the game based in its presented themes and meaning to be far more interesting than pointless theory crafting. Instead I'd appreciate more if people went with
>"Carol is the Knight"
for example, and bring an explanation to why they believe this is thematically fitting and how would the story look like as a whole if this was the taken path
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>>546427323
>Doesn't know
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Foreshortening is kicking my fucking ass into the next year... I have everything else drawn and it looks good but I just can't seem to be able to draw the arm properly and it's the only thing I'm missing
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>>546427323
I already said this and I was called a madman
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>>546427323
>vivian james
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>>546427071
Is there a video about the It's a Wonderful Life theory yet?
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>>546427367
Theorycrafting without taking into account if the answer is satisfying or serving the narrative in any way is pointless.
It’s akin to saying it’s all a dream and the person dreaming it is Asriel or something, like sure that could TECHNICALLY be true but what the fuck does that do for the story besides take away from it.
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>>546427110
Matthewmatosis is incredibly concise compared to a theoretical Matthewmatosis-but-as-let's-plays Youtuber. There's degrees to everything.
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>>546425778
When I was making a Susie halloween costume this year and my parents asked about the character (and why all my clothes for it looked like shit), I said she’s basically homeless. They didn’t really get it because the posters have her in her darkworld outfit…
>>546427697
Cute. I did see one tying the game to Winter Wonderland though.
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>>546427697
The black crystals basically like the alt timeline in that film too. I wouldn't be surprised if Carol references the film.
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>>546426957
>>546427173
>>546427303
being a girl is ok
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>>546427323
Kraut would lose a lot of his rapeability as a woman
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>>546427367
people get very mad about alternate knight theories still kek

personally i think the knight could still be anyone at this point, even a character we haven't met yet. 90% of undertale's character and lore shit was revealed extremely late game.
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>>546426320
The smartest man on earth couldn't make a worthwhile presentation on a 3 page journal article if he just fucking read it and made points as he went along. To make meaningful analysis you have to review the whole thing and organize your thoughts, and also compare it to other articles.
What you want is midwit reactionary surface level takes. The whole point of a video essay is deeper analysis of things that usually aren't apparent, not to just say in the moment why you enjoy or don't enjoy whatever you're doing on screen at the moment.
With your thinking it would be impossible to analyze something over time like how a game teaches mechanics, or present themes and motifs.
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>>546427974
Goner kid referenced it way back in Undertale too
>Have you ever thought about a world where everything is exactly the same...
>Except you don't exist?
>Everything functions perfectly without you...
>Ha, ha... The thought terrifies me.
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note to self: before chapter 5 drop utg needs to do a whos the knight poll
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>>546426714
>final conflict will literally be a fight against the author for control of the narrative
If I may add to this, the normal/true route will be about waiting for the characters to realize they're fictional and helping them fight back against the developer so they can have control of their own lives.
The Weird Route is about taking matters into your own hands and using the characters as pawns so you can fight the developer to force the story to go the way you want it to.
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>>546427770
This is how I feel about "but what if da knight's antlers are just part of a helmet and the knight has nothing to do with the holidays"
Literally what would be the point of this. Why would you put a distinctive feature associated with highly plot-relevant characters onto the main antagonist's design for no reason other than to troll your fans because you made it "technically" possible to be that way.
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>>546428009
True!
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if there is a woman in here, present your backside to me
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>>546428416
being multiple women is ok
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>>546428227
i asked informally a few months back their honest opinion on what they'd think if dessknight wasn't canon. and it seemed pretty ununanimous they preferred that theory.

but again, it has been a while, and schizos have gained some ground with rudyknight, friendknight and mettaknight gaining believers since then
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If there is a man in here, please present your ballsack to me.
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I like Rudy Knight.
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>>546421049
I agree with about half of his complaints in his Chapter 2 video, but he does come off as being pretty nitpicky. I think most of the points he makes against 3 & 4 are fair, though.
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>>546428537
What's in it for me
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If there is a Non-binary in here, please present your gender fluid to me.
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I like rudy
at night
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if there is a human here, let me rape you
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>>546428584
It'll be funny.
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It'd be a bit easier to respect Rudy Knight if the theory actually spawned from people concluding it's him based on the game instead of spawning from "what if it's NOT Dess or Carol"
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If there is a Nazi here, give me a Hiel Hitler
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>>546428691
Asgore...
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>>546428070
Undertale was a much shorter game, the first three chapters alone are basically the length of Undertale. Also the final boss of 2/3 routes and most important character in the game is literally the first character you meet. He even spells out his own importance for you at the end of the tutorial section even if you don't get his backstory until much later.
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HEIL FLOWEY
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>>546428009
Dumb stupid goat that gets femdomed.
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if there is a Holiday here, let me lovingly ravish you
>>546428778
To be fair, he's the next most likely candidate.
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>>546428306
It’s just being contrarian for the sake of it.
The only non-“It’s Dess/Carol/Rudy” answer for the Knight that would be satisfying is the Knight being a fucked up Darkner of some sentimental object that the Holidays own(ed).
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I bet at a certain point Susie is going to explain what she thinks the plot is and who’s who, and she’s going to say Carol is the Knight because “she’s obviously evil”.
My issue with Carol Knight is that it’s kind of the “least” interesting thing that can happen, since Rudy or Dess knight would add a lot more. She also seems more like a taskmaster than a “doer”, I guess
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>>546428851
nta but i like undertale precisely because it is so short. i can just fire it up and have a good time playing through it without feeling my lifeforce is sucked away from me due to video game fatigue.
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>>546428070
I don't mind alternative knight theories if they provide a good story, which I still am not convinced anyone but Dess could make it worthwhile. Both Carol and Rudy feel like boring picks because the story sounds so straightfoward if they were to be the knight, at that point I'd rather take a full meme curveball like freaking Papyrus.
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>>546428851
>Also the final boss of 2/3 routes and most important character in the game is literally the first character you meet.
no, FLOWEY is the first character you meet.

asriel is only mentioned like five minutes before you fight asgore. alphys lab entries are completely optional so you don't even need to read his origin story. you can literally start fighting the endgame battle without knowing they're the same guy
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goodnight /utg/. i am going to bed now. cya tomorrow.

>>546428894
being a submissive man is ok
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>>546428306
Every Knight theory that assumes the Knight is just a regular guy wearing a suit of armor makes me question if they even played the game. It shapeshifts into a fucking bird and its ribcage bursts open.
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>>546427770
The same question could be asked about why someone would make every character interaction meaningless since your character isn't treated as a character. That also takes away from the story.
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>>546429112
>Flowey isn't Asriel
Stop posting here, Asriel.
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>>546429160
Goatnight goatbro
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I think adults are extremely strong in Dark Worlds. I've got no reason to believe it but I think it's a cool theory.
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I don't want to be submissive, I want to be a dom but I lack the build necessary
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>>546429374
Undyne literally gets oneshot
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>>546429484
Well duh, she fought the Roaring Knight.
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>>546429076
Dess's unknown motive is brought up as a point against her being the Knight but I think it's sorta the opposite
If the Knight's motive is finding Dess, the plot can only go like one way
>”No Carol/Rudy don't do this! Look what you've become! This won't bring Dess back, you have to accept she's gone!"
The villains getting rewarded for kidnapping and sacrificing people simply won't happen, it wouldn't lead to some grand rescue of Dess where everyone's happy now, it'd just be this
Dess having less of an obvious motive that spells out the plot trajectory like this is actually a plus in a way
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>>546429160
We know, Asriel. Goodnight.
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>>546429196
I thought on this a little, and I’ve kind of come to the insane conclusion that the Knight might be like physical/living audio. It has that weird wave form when it gets damaged enough, a lot of its attacks are sound based, it’s roaring all the time, etc. Garbage noise and all the static stuff surrounding the Knight kind of fills in there as well.
Problem is that it HAS to be a person, so that would mean they’re somehow physical audio only in the darkworld. I really want Susie to describe what she actually saw a bit better.
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>>546429480
Oats and squats brother.
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>>546429480
Why don't you try getting ripped? I'm sure if you get ripped enough your status as a bottom will transfer from where your at now to at least a switch
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>>546427303
She also has stinky feet which is canon and confirmed by Dalv which makes her even cuter and hotter
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>>546429480
Being a dom is a state of mind more than it is about your physical build, unless your thing is wrestling someone to submission or something
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>>546429076
My favorite non-Dess Knight theories are the wacky ones like time-traveling Kris or Susie Knight, amalgamate Knight, etc. Most alternate Knight theories are way too mundane for my tastes.
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A lot of UT/DR theories make me realize that a lot of people would make for terrible writters and/or directors
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>>546429614
That's exactly why I like Dessknight the most, it's the most flexible theory that goes as far as Dess having full control of her actions, being dead, being alive, or being Friend's tortured sock puppet while she has extremely important emotional bonds with almost everyone involved.
I'm also against Carol being this much of a straightfoward antagonist who does obvious bad thing but for a misguided reason, and in hindsight Rudy knight is kind of the same premise.
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>>546429374
It would help explain why Tenna was so afraid of Toriel waking up. The knight is probably an adult too, assuming Darkness nonsense didn't arrest Dess's aging or otherwise made it non applicable.
>>546429484
Yeah, by the Knight, who's one of the most strongest characters yet. It's like complaining a guy is weak because Superman one-shotted him. I think the fact the Knight wasted no time with her might point towards the validity of this theory, because in all of her other experiences, she seems to take a lot of time to basically aura farm.
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Wakes up....buttsex with Frisk, takes shower with Frisk....buttsex, break at work....buttsex rape with Chara, comes home....buttsex with Frisk, before sleep....buttsex with Frisk....
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>>546429806
Really? Good to know.
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>>546429649
i think similarly but that the knight is a living EM wave.
may i interest you in my mettaknight theory
https://files.catbox.moe/kydljm.png

board needs a little update but still good
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>>546429649
Well the Roaring supposably has the Light and Dark Worlds combine so I don’t see why a creature as powerful as the Knight couldn’t manifest in the Light World for a short amount of time.
The big question is how it would make the fountains without being noticed.
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>>546429846
>wrestling someone to submission or something
Doms need to dominate in all aspects. Mentally, physically, and sexually.
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>>546429649
Maybe Susie had a pareidolia moment because it was dark out and saw Undyne being carried by *something* so she filled in the blanks where a person should be?
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>>546428353
She is so cute and beautiful, would make her my cowgirl wife and buttfuck her daily (consensual)
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>>546430145
Even when it comes to being a bigger nerd?
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>>546428537
* (Well, there is a man here.)
* (He might be happy to present his ballsack to you.)
* (What do you think?)
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>>546430207
I would do the same (nonconsensual)
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>>546430240
Yeah, if my dom can't tell me my anime waifu is trash while beating my ass at smash bros how can I begin to respect the dick game? But also he needs to be 6'6" and play sports and stuff.
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>>546430260
What happens if I kick it
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>>546430053
Yeah that is why when she takes her boots off he tells her to put them back on again after telling her to take them off lol i always interpreted it as her feet smelling bad
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>>546430494
it would be extremely painful
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Why does a character (or me) having fur and a snout and paws make me so horny. Furry is a strange fetish
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>>546430494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-uV8TGjaGU
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>>546430194
>>546430137
Sometimes I wonder if the Knight is kind of breaking the “rules” of this world. We still don’t fully know them yet, so it’s entirely possible the Knight is just like that or has some form of magic in the light world, somehow.
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>>546430648
it's gaster's world, he probably got them a hallpass
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>>546430573
Ancient Egyptians somehow got it right and the gods are actually a bunch of animal people laughing it up at the daily toiling and struggle of humans. Because they don't get worshiped properly any more they invented furry porn as a sort of cosmic revenge.
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>>546430573
You watched robin hood/space jam/zootopia at a formative age
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>>546430494
* (Well, there is not a man here.)
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Fave gets their first prostate exam ever
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What's happening, forum?
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>>546430935
Don't forget Pokemon and Digimon too.
Fuck even some of the Yugiohs were pretty hot, that card art could get kinda lewd.
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>>546429196
This is also a fundamental misunderstanding some people have with Dessknight
They hear "Dess is the Knight" and think it means "Dess was alive and well this whole time and still has her regular ass Lightner body in the Light World and everything about her going missing meant nothing"
Which leads to stupid questions like "why wouldn't anyone notice the missing girl running around making fountains at daytime???" when she probably just stays the same in both worlds, or is at least unrecognizable to a degree
It's like trying to apply monster logic to Flowey and saying him not turning to dust is a plothole after killing him on your first Neutral playthrough
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>>546431079
>pokemon
pokemon was never lewd like Yugioh and Digimon
>b-but lopunny
is the only case and barely counts
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>>546430648
The Knight is a Bard of Rage
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>>546430634
whats your name i might know you not in a weird way but i have an online friend that is a furry and also listens to tribe so it would be funny if i saw you in here
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What if the Knight took a shortcut
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Where the fuck did the FemCloverfags come from, I thought we only liked the KFC hoomans here?
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>>546431065
The children of today don't even know who Ray William Johnson is
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Wish I had a cuddle pile
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>>546431413
of course I know equals three dude
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>>546431402
/v/
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>>546431215
i think there is strawman both sides. people also assume if you think dess is not the knight, it means you want her to be a passive 'damsel in distress' who will do nothing interesting until rescued by kris.

personally i think dess is the EARTH (EARTH is anagram of heart, and has a female pronoun)
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>>546431402
I got inspired by all the Chara and Frisk posts and decided to join in with Clover lol.
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>>546431241
>pokemon was never lewd
>just under 600,000 submissions to e621
Pokemon gets people so horny they don't exclusively go for the obvious anthros which is pretty unheard of in most other fandoms. They're extra furry.
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Am I stupid or did the Titan we fought not roar a single time?
Only the Knight roared if that’s true… that’s weird considering Titans are the main thing that The Roaring brings assumably.
Maybe only the big guys do that, we fought one of the skinny ones.
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>>546431079
Yugioh didn't really have many proper furries until mid zexal with the cat lady. Only one before that I can think of is battle ox. It's more likely to take you down the monsterfucker route
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>>546431215
How can Flowey be related to Toriel and Asgore? They're not flowers. Toriel even blasts him with a fireball, would she do that to her own son? This theory is retarded. Flowey is obviously the ghost in the Ruins. After Toriel defeated him, he moved into the dummy, but then found another flower to possess. He also used his ghost powers to install all those hidden cameras in the underground. You'd better apologize to me when the Hotland chapter comes out next year and I'm proven right.
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What if Susie and everyone else is way smaller than they actually look, the reason why they look like giants being that it’s all from Kris/Your perspective who is smaller than them
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>>546431215
I don't think I've seen anyone complain Dessknight can't happen because she'd obviously be alive, but I've seen a lot of people complain about shit like "but she's stuck in the game code!" or "the Knight is shapeshifting therefore it can't be a normal lightner therefore can't be Dess" which are just arbitrary rejections without even considering new elements we haven't seen yet about her condition.
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Fave didnt think they were blazed until they spoke with people and realized mid blink that hey lost count of how long its been since theyve been speaking
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>>546431645
They're not called the Roaring Titans
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>>546431628
Can't blame you because Clover is a very cute, naughty, sexy cowgirl that enjoys gunpowder and buttsex
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>>546431584
To be fair, "damsel in distress in the code void" is exactly the role I've seen dozens argue that she needs to have or else "findher means nothing"
I appreciate seeing Dess theories that AREN'T that even if I firmly prefer her being the Knight
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>>546431669
1st edition harpie lady 2 was cute enough and half bird.
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>>546431840
Well they're not Meowing Titans!
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>>546431736
>therefore it can't be a normal lightner therefore can't be Dess
That's the same thing that the post you're replying to describes though, the assumption that Dessknight means Dess is still a normal Lightner
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>>546431690
This sentiment just proves that Undertale would be significantly worse if it came out like Deltarune did. Too many shcizos left to stew without a finished product.
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>>546431736
That's so fucking funny, Dess is literally the posterchild of "probably not a normal Lightner" lmao.
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>>546432001
Either go back to /v/ or put your name back on, Crusader
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fave has had another incredibly shitty day at work today
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*death metal screams my new bands name, schizoooooooo steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwww with noisy thrashy guitars*
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>>546431717
So you're saying that Kris is little a midget in a world of midgets?
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>>546432160
Fave should drown their sorrows in TV slop
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Pippins based on kink dice when?
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>>546432160
im srry bby u wanna talk about it
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>>546431861
yeah. i think some femfans are taking it a bit too personally that knight should be a girl because they want a girl schizoboss

but imo dess will at bare minimum become a party member, susie says in chapter 2 that in dragon blazer you get a sister party member whose stats suck. feels blatant.

>>546432001
toby only gets schizos because he earned them, you need a certain amount of trust before your audience does this
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>>546431246
There's zero chance that you know me and tribe is one of the most well known and regarded hip hop groups especially by anyone into DJing. If I could be identified by being a furry or into any specific kind of music I wouldn't post furry porn and music links here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km5EJ0KiZL4
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>>546432341
you're a genius
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>>546431690
Besides we already know where Asriel is. He's trapped underneath the flowers in the garbage dump.
Why would we hear Asriel talking to us after falling into the dump if he's not there? He reacted to what we're currently doing in the story, so he's still there and it’s not a memory.
If Flowey was Asriel it'd mean Tony just abandoned the Asriel Trapped in the Dump plotline.
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I think Dess should be a stupid sore loser and that’s why she gets so much HP and the 1 hit KO move
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>>546432160
Fave would get a hug from me
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>>546432221
*that Kris is a LITTLE midget in a world of midgets

I hate not proof reading my crap
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>>546431558
But they only like HMOFAslop there.
>>546431628
You know, that's based. Welcome to the femalehumanfag supremacy team.
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>>546432341
we already have a stripper dice
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>>546432341
I was here when sex dice pippinses arrived to rock the scene
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>>546432467
what
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american flag darkner with the exact personality of tf2 soldier
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>>546432138
Finished game. Finished game. Finished game.
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>>546432413
Yeah. One thing that’s a constant in Deltarune is that Kris HATES how short they are, but keeps getting reminded of it. They want to be a “bigshot” for a reason.
This is part of why I like “Dess was 10+ft tall” headcanon, besides it being funny.
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The silent guitar twang from the hand that pushes us back in Chapter 4 makes me think that it’s very likely that Dess (or at least a part of her) is stuck in some dimension of Darkness that (We) can’t see, but that doesn’t make her a helpless damsel.
I don’t think anybody would be seething about this potential plotpoint if Dess was a dude.
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Fave said they have done nothing but teleport ice e pezzas for 3 days
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>>546432273
i dont want to eat my feelings, i'll just watch tv
>>546432349
i saw someone almost die today and it was stressful
>>546432396
thank you fave hugger
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>>546432554
God created war so that Americans would learn geography.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbdtBLD8Lbg
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>>546432516
jenny is a part time stripper
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>>546431950
harpie ladies are like 25% bird max
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>>546432692
That sounds scary, feel better now?
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>>546432393
And that's another thing. You assume that the player would care about Asriel in this scenario, when that's not guaranteed. I know that I never cared for Asriel, a character who dies before you ever meet him. Let him stay dead. The same thing about December. If December is not the Roaring Knight, let her stay dead.
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Which pippinses know how to cook and which ones don't? (in exception of Fuzzy because we all know she can barely cook)
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>>546432984
Tenna doesn’t allow them to cook because then TVSlop sales would go down
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>>546432894
yes thank you
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>>546417956
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FemClover cowgirl
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>>546432661
gaster is arguably stuck in the code as well, or at least whatever 'his own creation' is, but no one's calling him helpless.
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>>546432984
Pippy is the best cook second only to Bones
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>>546432393
Dumbass. The player character IS Asriel. That's why when you sleep in the bed in Toriel's house, the narration says you're the future of humans and monsters. Toriel cheated on Asgore with a human and had a hybrid baby named Asriel. It's so fucking obvious. The only way this wouldn't be the case if is Toby changes his story just to troll the theorists.
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>>546433114
You have my attention.
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>>546433104
*sniff* is is that really you? y-your YOURE BACK!!
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>>546433190
>Toby changes his story just to troll the theorists.
jokes aside i think toby would rather kill himself than compromise his dream schizogame
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I don’t mind half-human Susie, but I think she’d look less scary if she was half-human
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>>546432649
is that why eram says this when you fight em? Is the whole reason we're looking for the shadow crystals is because they'll make Kris taller?
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>>546433190
>"I've got friends on the inside!"
Wouldn't be the first time. Release a finished game, Robert
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>>546433104
hi bunfag
you missed nothing of value
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>>546433130
I guess calling out for help when you’re a teenager stuck in unfamiliar darkness is problematic
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>>546433380
>My Kris is kind of a midget…
>SOUL WHY YOU LAUGHIN’! I CAN SEE THAT ON YOUR STREAM, THAT’S DISRESPECTFUL AS SHIT!
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>>546433275
was he away for 4 or 5 days? i dont remember
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>>546433130
This is a dumb argument because no one is proposing that the plot of Deltarune is all about rescuing Gaster from the code and that his main role in the plot is to be saved with little agency outside of that.
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>>546433318
Playershit could not have been part of that dream. Mandatory items for progression being impossible to collect couldn't have been part of the dream either. It's impossible. I would never have dreamed of that.
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>>546433392
I don't think a wacky theory reference in a barely-canon bonus room that has no bearing on the plot really counts as changing the story
If you only meant the "trolling theorists" part then yeah fair
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>>546431690
Asriel being Flowey IS a total ass pull and theres only 1 hint of it before the game lore dumps you at the end. Undertale is a short game though so it's okay. If Deltarune did the same thing despite having multiple chapters and being ten times longer it is bad writing.
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>>546433190
Frisk being Asriel would've ruined Undertale.
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Hello Tobert. I would like to play Chapter 5, and further chapters, of Deltarune.
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if we were offered, we would all goto epstein's island, so you really can't blame the people that went
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>>546433579
You don't have dreams, you have aphantasia because your brain is weak.
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>>546433679
Good thing Dess does have hints already
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I want to see how a Kris-Noelle role swap would work after the game is done.
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>>546433679
It is unironically an asspull. I was never interested in saving Asriel and the game forces you to to finish the pacifist route. The Neutral Route's 30 endings are all better. Both Asgore and Flowey are actual boss fights.
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>>546433380
Proof Kris is male
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>>546433561
Nobody on Earth has said that Dess has no agency and is just a heckin’ princess that needs to be rescued, sis
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>>546433860
It Doesnt
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>>546433962
Have you not been reading theory discussion for the past 4 years?
Just because you didn’t say something doesn’t mean no one did.
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>>546417956
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>>546433939
Nah, there’s girls out there that hate being short as well.
I bet some of them… ARE IN THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW!
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>>546433679
if the knight is any character that's actually existed in town from chapter 1 (or even has been mentioned, like dess or asriel), i think he's pacing it better than he did last time at least.

a lot of stuff from deltarune doesn't make any sense unless you 100%ed undertale though. like why mettaton is in the ghost house, that's completely skippable content in undertale but his setup in deltarune depends on it.
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>>546433796
Almost like Toby has improved as a writer since his warmup exercise
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>>546434060
breastgrave route dialogue options
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well toby fox made undertale so he can fund deltarune. he is very sensy and in touch with how to make people react to things. so of course it was an ass pull that flowey was asriel. its all to make it as effective as possible to make people cry so that youtubers promote it to their young audience. i still enjoyed it, but it doesnt distract from the fact
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>>546433782
Didn't know you were a doctor. What makes makes you think that?
>>546433962
I mean, that wouldn't be so bad, would it?
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>>546433275
<3
>>546421504
it is heartwarming to see how others care. i have some stuff i can work on now
>>546424998
cool art. i see the colors and i become happier
>>546433474
i checked a couple of times and it seemed rough in here :(
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>>546433796
I don't care about Dess. Unless chapter 5 is filled with a dozen flashbacks to endear me to her to make up for 4 entire chapters of her being as important as Catti mom then Dess Knight is a mistake.
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>>546434048
I don’t recall anybody seething like this over anons talking about how they wanted to save Asriel from his fate yet couldn’t.
Saying that they want to save Dess isn’t saying “yeah that’s all she is, a thing to be saved”.
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>>546434060
MM M M M M M M M M M MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMAAAAAA MIIIIILKKKKIIIIEEEESSSS BAAAABBOOOINGINGINGINGINGINGING
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>>546434180
But I didn't cry. Like I said, I don't care about Asriel, he is nothing to me.
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>>546434317
Noel…
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>>546433716
Mettaton...
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>>546433962
>Nooo, I'm not saying she has no agency in the story
>Just that she will do nothing except vaguely exist outside of the story until she gets rescued at the very end
Okay.
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>>546434069
*Among Us game start theme.ogg*
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is the "okay but what if i don't care about any of the characters HMM" posting all one guy?
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>>546433104
yayyyy
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lets all start raping each other cmon get in a circle everyone
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>>546434514
Yeah probably, idk why multiple COLs are generating now
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>>546434180
I really don't think Toby wants a child audience or enjoys having one
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>>546434180
Azzy is both a cute animal and a cute shota, you'd cry no matter what.
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>>546434607
Someone broke the CoL bot
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>>546434607
>being even remotely critical of toby's magnificent writing makes you a COL
brain poisoned
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>>546434060
gadzooks!!
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>>546428928
>My issue with Carol Knight is that it’s kind of the “least” interesting thing that can happen, since Rudy or Dess knight would add a lot more.
>THEORY!? That's not a theory, that's just...
>You think just because something LOOKS cool...
>THAT makes it correct!?
How does it feel knowing that chapter 5 isn't even out yet, and Toby is already making fun of you?
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>>546434514
Yes, Crusader took his name off because he keeps crossboarding on /v/ where they make fun of him for it
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>>546434429
Canon...
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i would like to be unbanned from the whiteboards i promise i will never never ever draw penises and buttocks again
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>>546434647
he needs to put some more swears in his games then, ASS isn't going to cut it
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>>546434723
If you don't feel emotionally invested in Toby's games whose main appeal is having an emotional experience through it you should just leave instead of personally bitching why the story didn't make you feel like that
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Dess is a damsel in distress and that's okay
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Noelle hugging someone when they give her a gift is kind of cute
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>>546434823
But that scene ends with green Pippins continuing to drink the battery acid because he actually does enjoy it, proving that Zapper was right that thinks that look cool are true.
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you know you can apply "okay but i don't care about this character" to literally anything right
i don't understand how it's supposed to be a gotcha shutdown of theories you don't like
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>>546434987
the only thing this damsel is doing is causing distress bro
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>>546434878
LMFAO
dude hes in the time out corner haHA
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>>546435023
what if i give her my spunk
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>>546434229
No, not really. I don’t expect a happy ending but saving Dess would be nice, I just hate how the baiting retard I was replying to takes what people say and interprets it in the most terminally online way possible.
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>>546435065
Stop coping.
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>>546434878
i draw penises on all the whiteboards and i've ever been banned. what have you really been doing?
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>>546435091
Carol would kill you
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>>546434894
You think SWEARS scare away a child audience? Children love Vivziepop and South Park.
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There is more than one knight. We've already seen it in Ralseis gay little exposition art.
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>>546434823
If Toby actually thinks "they think it'd be cool and don't believe it for any other reason at all" for Dess Knight he's officially fucking retarded
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>>546434514
I care about my character. And the allies of my character that actually listen to my character. I intend on repeating that Pacifist is completely optional in the let's play multiple times.
>>546434949
My interest comes from the premise of a human boy falling down a rabbit hole into the realm of monsters and the adventure to get back home. That does not require me to care about the characters besides said human.
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>>546434949
not caring about asriel or dess doesn't make me COL. dess barely exists except as some tomboy or big sister cliche, and asriel is boring without flowey or chara.
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if toby fox does not make a happy ending where everyone lives happily ever after, one of his demented tranny fans will have a mental breakdown and will proceed to goto his house where he will then be stabbed, gunned down, set on fire, or any other manner of horrible death
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>>546435307
>character is boring without the main parts of the character
interesting very interesting.
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>>546435348
This is right at the threshold between hot curvy woman and ham beast, and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
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Ralsei can move between the dark worlds because he's a stick of chalk that Susie ate
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>>546435363
Nobody knows where he lives.
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>>546435291
>Pippin is green
>battery acid is green
>Pippin would go together with a green drink
All evidence for Dess Knight is visual. All of it. And it's the only Knight candidate with plot reasons for being wrong.

You will never be smarter than Toby.
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>>546435307
Good thing Asriel isn't relevant in any stories without Flowey and Chara
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>>546435435
yes. UT asriel can stay, DR asriel might as well be some random furry's OC.
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>>546435560
when theres a will theres a way
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>>546434987
I'm not against Dess being a damsel in distress, but it's annoying when anons pretend like that's not what they mean when they say her main role in the plot is to be trapped and then get saved. That's what a damsel in distress is, just be honest about it.
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>>546435292
And in the case of Deltarune, my interest comes from a bunch of kids getting Narnia'd into this ancient war against the Roaring Knight to save the world. The only character I have to specifically care about is my own and my allies(if they get with the program).
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Why are there so many baittards tonight
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>>546435551
>ralsei is scared of being pooped out
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Deltateens if they were age accurate:
>67
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>>546435587
i dont think toby can roast people for believing in dessknight, since it's got to be a red herring if it's not true
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>>546435680
You’re giving me convicted sex offender vibes.
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>>546435142
You are the one coping
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>>546435587
>Carol needing superfast tunnels doesn't count
>Gerson connection, Asriel references, 1225 before you fight the knight, star element matching with the abundance of stars on her wall and bedsheets, Asriel being into a sword magician don't count
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whats wrong with baiting or being a convicted sex offender
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Fave is failing to restart from scratch is and is about to commit murder suicide.
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>>546417956
dess knight? oh I thought the thread was talking about dess fucking kris in the butt for some reason hm wow weird could've sworn this was on topic
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FAVE IS DEAD
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>>546435307
>asriel is boring without flowey
>Asriel is boring without Asriel
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>>546435957
Ew.
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fave doesnt play shitty games like rust and instead has a refined taste and only plays japanese video games and halo
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>>546435871
You forgot Dess being brought up right before the Knight fight, hell constantly being brought up in chapters 3-4 (rudy is effectively an optional character BTW), the Christmas tree randomly there before the Knight fight, 1225 isn’t just there it’s fucking everywhere…
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>>546435696
Not a baiter. Watch the let's play. I stay on task from the moment I leave the Ruins. All of this is genuine. No bullshitting.
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Riddle me this: If Carol is the Knight, how did she get to the church in Chapter 4 to make the Dark Fountain? Did she just beat the shit out of Noelle until she was knocked out and then sprint through some secret underground tunnels to get there before Kris and Susie?
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>>546436016
AND WE KILLED HIM
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>>546435871
I saw the text with my eyes so it's all visual.
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>>546435597
Deltarune? Or is college Chara real?
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>>546435957
FINALLY
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>>546435871
>>546436058
Yup. Dess is too busy being lost in the code. If Dess was the Knight, Carol wouldn't be so uptight, and the guitar would've been destroyed.
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>>546435849
I'm sure the inner workings of your mind must be fascinating
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fave doesnt play video games at all and wanks off all day before going to sleep
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Asriel is boring without Flowey
Flowey is boring without Asriel
Two sides of the same coin
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>>546436016
*slam dunks pheonix down on fave*
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>>546436075
Carol is not the Knight.
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>>546436048
ew what shit taste
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>>546431584
I think the issue is people want concrete answers where they are directly told the exact process of how X leads to Y. When the answer could be more metaphorical and mindfucky
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>>546436180
That's not really good for your dick or your mind you should probably stop doing that
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>>546436237
OW
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Please subscribe to my failing Youtube channel. My dad said he's going to kick me out if I don't start making money somehow.
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>>546435871
noelle can also use swords and is a magician, seems reasonable dess would be one too if she becomes a party member or is the (girl)
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fave is racist against black people in particular
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fave did not consider suicide today
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>>546435307
>asriel is boring without flowey or chara.
....Yeah it's almost like taking out 99% of a character's whole reason to exist makes a boring character or something, what did you expect this argument to be exactly?
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>>546436016
NOT BIG SURPRISE
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>>546436331
shut up. he likes my videos, I'll have you know. It's not failing because I got my recordings out.
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please trump, invade venezuela tonight. i want carnage
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>>546436217
Flowey is certainly more interesting with Asriel, but as a Flowey fan since the days of the demo, he's not exactly boring without Asriel. It would have been disappointing if there was literally no explanation for him being like that at all, but an explanation that didn't involve his past as Asriel could have still been interesting, in my opinion. Although I love the Flowey we got so much now that it's hard to imagine anything different.
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>>546436548
I, too, want dead Americans, but what does this have to do with Deltarune?
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Hungry…
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>>546436237
it's ok... you'll get all my abp...
* Fave's flame has gone out.
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Dess could simultaneously be the Knight and lost in the code. She could be God writing the story and Gaster's just there like "nuh uh I was here first get away from my Deltarune"
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>>546436385
that i don't care about deltarune asriel, i guess. more like a statement than an argument, i'd have said.
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fave raped junko furuta again
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fave wishes they had friends
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>>546436765
I don't think you're particularly meant to?
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>the Knight turns into baseball
>summons a bat that turns into a sword
How hard is your monkey brain screaming at you to connect them to Dess Holiday? The primitive connections making your neurons activate?
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>>546436982
maybe you didn't know anything about December having a baseball bat, eh?
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>>546436879
ur my friend, punk DEAL with it
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>>546436982
It doesn't count because I said so and Toby never wanted you to think it's a bat but it's also a red herring anyway
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>>546436548
You're asking an american double-crosser who aligns with Xi Jinping
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>>546436678
PLUEEEYYYYY!!!!!
PLUEY NO!!!!!!
GET THIS CAT SOME FOOD, ANONS!
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>>546437139
god ok fine we're friends jeez
but for real fave needs friends
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>>546436868
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>>546436879
friend punk ur, with DEAL it
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>>546436678
i'll feed him beans make him fart all day
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>>546436765
What does that have anything to do with DR Asriel, yeah of course you barely care about a character we deliberately know very little about that we haven't even seen yet, you don't have to, he's not even a main character yet as up to chapter 4, nobody told you he was important.
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>>546436982
Ummm, that's not a baseball, it's a morph ball from Metroid.
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>>546437236
i wish i could be friends with fave
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GUYS WHAT IF
DELTARUNE...IS A VIDEO GAME
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i want friends. deltarune didn't give me any friends
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can we all agree that undertale is the better game because its shorter and because its shorter it has alot more interesting things to show you instead of filling it all up with filler like how it is in deltarune
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friends inside me
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>>546437429
gaster…
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>>546436982
knight stole dess's bat because it had her dead girl zest on it
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Fave is a loser with no future and no real friends and they’ve never had a job before
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>>546437156
There's no need to cry. It's hardly a "red herring", but abusing human pattern recognition is one of Andrew Hussie's tricks.

This isn't Dispatch, or any other primitive storytelling you're dealing with.
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>>546437379
it's a soccer ball painted as a baseball
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>>546437431
No.
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>>546436594
I honestly can't see Flowey without Asriel.
I think maybe his connection to Asriel being more implied and obscured than overtly stated could have made the mystery as to his true nature more interesting. If the player made the connection that he is Asriel more naturally than having a big reveal, maybe that would have made the character more interesting for some people.
Otherwise, he doesn't really have a motivation. Why does he want to take all the souls to become god? To become god of course!
That's not as much of an interesting character in my opinion.
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>>546437405
fave wishes they could be friends with you
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>>546437504
I knew Jockington was the Knight. Kris wouldn't lie to me.
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>>546437497
i kind of do wonder if we'd be interpreting the knights horns and the objectively shitty sword sprite differently if we didn't have the 4 deer characters + raise up your bat context
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>>546437431
>muh filler
If Kris and Susie went grocery shopping for 2 hours I'd be locked the fuck in.
I'd enjoy every line of dialogue of them comparing the peas.
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>>546437431
its better because you can ignore 'duh message' in it and make your own experience from it.
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>>546434861
this artist is dangerously based
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frisk is a battle hungry fatty
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>>546436879
what are fave's interests
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Fave is starving and about to eat a shitty dinner
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>>546437706
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>>546437721
Nah, transforming and the flickering would still mean it's a disguise, and, thus, someone with sufficient Dark Fountain powers could do it.

But the Knight is a Lightner, and every Lightner you encounter in a Dark World is on the Gaster List.
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>>546437798
I like his Frisk but I don't like MettaFrisk.
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>>546437884
fave is a bit shy to share what they like for fear of being made fun of. that's probably part of why fave needs friends
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>>546435957
*eyes pop cartoonishly out of head and bowtie spins*
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>>546437594
He could still have a backstory as a normal person without that normal person specifically being Asriel, the sweet prince who never moved on from his best friend. Or he could have a completely different backstory and still end up in the same place we see him in the Ruins, homicidally bored of the underground. Like I said, I enjoy Flowey as he exists, but a theoretical Flowey with a different journey to the same endpoint would still be interesting to me.
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Just start a Dicksword if you're so goddamn lonely
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>>546438068
i like bionicles tell me what fave likes
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the roaring knight is obviously the succubus catti and kris summoned after googling demon summoning for teens
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I do believe there's gonna be some kind of "twist" with the Knight but I also think the Knight is some piece of Dess. We're still on a mission to findher so the rest of Dess is out there. Or maybe Dess's consciousness is in the code while her body is being puppeteered.
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>>546437497
Toby doesn't write like Hussie. If he did, the Annoying Dog would be trying to knot Susie right now.
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Fave has effectively given up
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>>546438220
>A lost and lost and lost girl.

>A crying and crying and crying boy.
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>>546438138
It doesn't fit as well into the rest of the story. Having him be some rando instead of the King's dead son who started the events of the entire game doesn't exactly bring the story around full circle.
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>>546437985
QC is probably on that list because Toby wanted to pay homage to Cucumber Quest, which has a Knight character he liked. Toby confirmed that's what QC's initials are a reference to.
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>>546438349
>>546438349
>>546438349
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>>546437594
he doesn't need one. he could just be one of the many vile monsters in the Underground, that lives to kill humans for the tasty SOUL inside.
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>>546438220
The Knight is an amalgamate of Dess and every girl from a previous cycle of the prophecy.
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>>546438480
I guess he doesn't NEED a backstory, but like I said, it's not as interesting.
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>>546438712
I don't think so. I think the flowy fight at the end of the game is just as good without it being Asriel.
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>>546435957
Fahaha you mad lad
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>>546438403
The list is
>CMY/very wonderful trio
>characters in chapter 1 with a face sprite (Berdly, Catti, Jockington, Rudy)
>Bosses from Undertale who players would probably pick to get a reaction from the game since Undertale had that feature
>Shopkeepers from Undertale for the same reason
Burgerpants is omitted because he has a different nickname between games and it's not even his real name.
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>>546438828
It's a good fight, but Flowey is absent from 95% of the entire game. Without a connection to the plot, the fight could be replaced with Omega Jerry and it would be probably just as suitable to the overall story.
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>>546439019
And Gerson. Which confirms the list.
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>>546439092
True. I like the Asgore fight more. I'm now wondering about an ending where you just fight Asgore and Flowey doesn't even see the effort in destroying his Soul
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>>546435680
Is that not her role?
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>>546436048
Fave doesn't play casual normie games like that, fave plays real nigga games
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>>546439361
A fight where you take Asgore's soul and in the end HE'S the one who ends up saving you from Flowey would be a crazy fight.
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>>546436075
Carol hypnotized Noelle into being the knight. Noelle was at the school in chapter 1 and in the library in chapter 2. Carol activated her to make both fountains. Carol also hypnotized Alvin into making the church fountains.
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>>546433716
Dess...
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>>546433716
Toriel...
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>>546410330
nothing but respect for a man that hates yurifags that much
his father will be smiling down at him from above while yours will only wonder where it all went wrong
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Just had another setback, i learned my calorie counting app is incorrectly configured so it has been telling me I had like 600 calories more a day in my budget than i really do. It's not a huge deal because I've been coming in under but damn
I will never be able to not hate myself until I'm not fat



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