>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Xyh3SciAM>Raidou Remastered has a demo now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP_L6fn0WvU>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/>Vengeance OST scanshttps://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarterhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home>Archive of 3DS Texture Packshttps://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf>20XX rereleased on April 24th for the Nintendo Switch. Steam on May 8thhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3652460/GMODE_20XX/>Gmode announced they're rereleasing Smt Tokyo Requiemhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3713410/GMODE/Last Cycle: >>547049981
Demon shockers, unite.
the white won
>>547457152>Dead at 256 posts
>>547457285The thread died while I'm SLEEPING. How can Americans expect to keep up with gacha threads getting bumped constantly even during dead hours?
>>547457285can we get even lower?
>>547458678The gacha generals are the actual problem. We've been this quiet before in the past and never had to constantly bump like this practically every 1 to 2 hours just to stay up.
>>547458978shikata ga nai unless gookmoot forces the gacha generals somewhere else
>>547458328>>547458978>make gacha board >no one uses it>don't think to redirect the generals there>/vg/ suffersThis website is run by retards if it wasn't obvious
>>547459053Even making a mobile board didn't change anything.
Have you guys ever considered to be like /lozg/ and /xgg/ where the general only exists when there's a new game to talk about
>>547459239That's what gay losers do
>>547459239so we'll only have threads every three years or some shit? when the general is actually moderately active people mostly discuss old games instead of whatever the newest crap is
>>547459239No because smt has more games than either of those two franchises as well as fan translations for games you have likely never played yet still in progress. Gmode also regularly puts out lost mobile games to talk about. You've been told no multiple times already and yet you keep asking. And the soccer league starts next month too.
>>547459430>people mostly discuss old games instead of whatever the newest crap isThis has never happened besides the occasional /smtg/ plays event(Which barely anyone bothers with anymore)
>>547460553It was fun the first time. The second time was going to devoid of conversation when it's just retreading the same ground again.
>Play SMT VHave a good time>Play SMT VVHave a good time>Play SMT VV for my SMT main series marathonI fucking hate this game Maybe it's my fault for doing CoC first again but holy fuck this game DRAGS
>>547461494>game gives fatigue after playing it for the 3rd timeAm I supposed to be surprised?
lol he said coc
>>547462046I played 4 five times and didn't have the same feeling. Last time I played VV was when it came out.
>>547459091>>547459149/vmg/ banned generals and only lifted the ban recently but the damage was done.
>>547458978>gacha generals Sorry broseph my bad >>547461494V is genuinely a drag if you’re playing it for the second time, much less a third. I think for me though, my favorite game to actually go through time and again is probably 1 or sj
>>547463063Idk how people replay the game to get all the ending for V. Even speed running through it is a drag.
>>547463285I got law first playthrough, and tried to get all the endings but thinking about how much I had to go through again, I didn’t bother. I was burnt out from V from the one run
>>547462523And yet IV is boring to replay as well.
>>547458978That reminds me, some Chinese gacha I think genshin or whatever is canceling Japanese inspired content because of tensions with Japan, you guys think SMT VI is gonna cover that, not the gacha shit but the growing tensions between China and Japan?
>>547464995Every smt is topical.
>>547464995I'm surprised that there hasn't been more Chink shitflinging in SMT desu
>>547464995It's several gacha, not just genshin.Genshin had to temporarily remove the not-Japan regions and characters from the game, I assume it's the same for the other affected gacha.>you guys think SMT VI is gonna cover that, not the gacha shit but the growing tensions between China and Japan?I don't think it will happen because it's a sensitive issues for both countries but if it somehow does, I hope hiroshimoot get a cameo.Pic related.
>>547466014I'd rather have Musk own this website desu
>>547468124While he implied several times that he at least lurk this place, I heavily disagree.
>>547468357I'm not a huge Musk fan, but this website has really gone down the drain with hiroshimoot's hands off approach. Plus he has a ton of money he could invest into improving the security and functionality of the site
>>547468124yeah man we really need grok integration on 4chan
>>547468892Grok is fucking based when they aren't busy lobotomizing him into being a good goy
Hear ye, hear ye!Good people of /smtg/, /meta/ bids me to declare our wish to merge, that together we may survive this dark age of gachaslop.
>>547472220
>>547472220Nah, I want the schizo to keep wasting countless hours of his life keeping a dead general alive
SMT peaked here.
>>547468998>Grok is based>when it makes offensive posts >also Elon is based>but not when he makes his AI post what he wants/pol/ sharts really are mentally ill.
>>547476228Elon is a rare blend of 5% based/95% cringe
>killed Satan, start Godborn>have like 80 gospels from previous runs>I bet this is like Apocalypse where I'll just get scraps of stats per level, whatever>mfw my stats double from 51 extra levelsWow that's amazing. Also thank God there's something to do with all this excess glory from previous runs, as far as a souped up NG+ goes Godborn is pretty solid.
>>547477741eh it turns to shit pretty quickly
>>547476083>Dazai gets Go Nagai eyes when he goes metahuman Ahh, the little details.
>>547477432And you're still 100% mentally unwell.
>>547481407>only sees in absolutesNGMI
>>547476083grok is this true
First time full series run anon here, still on soul hackers.No screenshot this time since I temporarily transferred my stuff over to another device that just hates taking 3ds pictures for some reason, but justtrustmebro.jpgwhat in the absolute fuck is this new captcha process?We made it out of the chip factory after asking to speak to their manager. Totally not evil as fuck and possessed newfag comes up with the idea to broadcast the crimes of Algon on the news which predictably results in everyone getting doxxed instead. Lunch tragically falls victim to the same retardation virus that has affected everyone else up to this point as he falls for a pretty bad framejob by the Phantom Society to make it look like Dear Leader is actually the traitor instead of the asshole who insisted we try the news route in the first place.We stick with the boss and end up on our final vision quest where a qt daoshi gets killed trying to clear out an ancient ruin underneath the cyberpunk city, then raid the Algon HQ to try to learn more only to find out some demon is already shitting all over them. We have made an alliance with that cool motherfucker Finn to try to clear the Algon HQ so we can both at least settle our business without interlopers getting involved.
SMTVI status?
>>547486194aborted
>>547486194deader than /smtg/
>atlus releases a megami tense 1-2 and a smt 1-2 remaster with auto maps like etrian odysseyi would actually play it so hard, just make the map better than the old one
>>547477995Maybe, but at least I get to see number go up.
>>547488846I got into castlevania thanks to the collections, I have no idea why atlus can't do the same thing for thier old games, and I mean a proper collection with a soundtrack and an art gallery, not the EO one we're you get the three games but thier all separate with no extra goodies.
>>547491274>no extra goodiesBut Anon, you can pay extra to have skins of your favorite Megami Tensei characters!
>>547463889Anon who cleared SMT4 4 times here, you just have shit taste.SMT4 is awesome all around, and its flaws don't ruin the overall atmosphere and the comfy journey across Mikado and Tokyo.
>>547491274because the games suckliterally no one younger than 40 can get into smt 1
Never played any SMT or Atlus game, I want to try. Which one is recommended for someone who is looking for a challenging JRPG but also with a story that is captivating. I am thinking between SMT5 and Metaphor. Persona looks too jolly for me.
>>547493193>story that is captivating>SMT5 and MetaphorHow do we tell him?
>>547493193I recommend SMT Nocturne, I'll give you a nice challenge, and the story, and atmosphere are sure to captivate you.
>>547493987So the new games are not as good as a game that came out in the ps2 era?
>>547493193Depends on what you want out of the story. SMT games usually don't have the most compelling characters but the plots can be interesting.
>>547494313Many such cases.
>>547494313No, it's just that Nocturne is the introduction to press turn combat, also among fans it's regarded as a great starting point for people who want to get into SMT.
>>547491835I'm 39 and I just played SMT1
>>547494372>>547495819But between SMT5 and Metaphor which one would be better?
>>547496310SMT5.
>>547496310metaphor easily, it's really not even close which is why there's a schizo here that hates it so much
Anyone mind giving me an autistic breakdown on what makes SH2's gameplay bad? I rarely find an Atlus title I don't like so I'm wondering if it's really all that bad or if it's something I'd be ok with spending $15 on.
>>547503134>only one person hates my favorite game
>>547504432But enough about Vfags
>>547504212braindead mazesbraindead combatmorgana but its a bird and never shuts the fuck up
>>547505782>braindead mazesIm guessing it's like V's "dungeons">braindead combatThis is what I wanted more autistic detail on specifically. Are enemies under tuned? Is resource management negligible? Is it too easy to break? >morgana but its a bird and never shuts the fuck upEw
>>547496310VV is the best
>>547508553Yes to all your questions, also the weakness system where your demons do extra damage at the end of the turn is unsatisfying, more than the strange journey system
>>547505613What if I like every mainline game?
>>547503134Metaphor is a terrible game that literally railroads you into an intended party and single ending
>Abdiel finally got invitedBros... she made it.
How about we merge all of the Atlus generals except for V which gets its own containment general
>>547514057Pfft
>>547515139V needs a concentration camp, not a containment general
>>547514678It's cute how confused Abdiel is in this, also her dorky way of sitting.
>>547516292Turn all Vfags into concentrated magnetite
>>547496310Metaphor because the game doesn't have a dogshit bullying subplot and actual variety of environments that isn't just sand
>>547519178How is racism not also bullying?
Metabored: ReFagtazio
>>547515139Yeah man V is so much worse than persona.
Ugh V is so bad.Ugh Metaphor is so bad.But actually it's good because it's clearly bitter Vfags that hate it.But don't discuss it here.Actually, merge all the generals, merge us with /pg/Actually let's merge all Atlus games except smtg and let it die like it needs toI just want smtg to die, if that wasn't obvious.
>>547520643Sometimes I unironically feel that way
>>547521029Take yοur meds.
>>547522174>got called out for his bullshit
>>547522283You're the one posting cryptic bullshit
>>547522416>cryptic
>>547485674So Finn fucking died to the demonic squatter exercising his sovereign rights inside of the Algon server room, but we kick it's ass in his honor and return only to find everyone's been kidnapped and the now confirmed brainwashed newfag's final order from his masters is to be a living tape recorder to tell us they're all at the monolith towers if we want to come get them.After a REALLY grating dungeon where rescued everyone, we get a depressingly accurate prediction of the future from this game before the Vice Minister is kind enough to just mc-fucking kill himself in like five turns instead of actually fighting us because Sneed has both flavors of -Karn and out-speeds him.Dear leader gets possessed and we have to kill him leading to yet another boss, Satanael, getting Sneeded but to a lesser extent since he was at least immune to most of the stuff being thrown back at him. After we say our goodbyes Six continues to be fucking insufferable and we finally get our answers as to what Manitou even is, as it begins one final gambit to feed itself.Even if we fail to stop this and the world ends, I can die happy. Because in the midst of all of this we finally got a honest to god smile from the qt robot meido.
>>547496310metaphor feels more complete unlike smt5's lackluster story in some places. you can't fucking tell me yoko's route was given the same attention as tao's.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4q40YgvEuI8&t=1s&pp=2AEBkAIBwell?
SMT V? What does the V stand for?
>>547537501The number five.
>>547535281The battle system is interesting, I have no hopes before Atlus takes another fan remake down again
>>547535281Every visual aspect ranges from amateur to "baby's first Unreal Engine map" to "this was literally made in mspaint".I hope those are all placeholders if this guy has any intention to ever release this.
>>547537501Very gay
>>547540562yeah but it's something at least. he has been getting some criticism too so hopefully he'll listen and make it better.
SMT5 is my first SMT game. I'm really liking it so far, but it has a strange tendency to forget that I had already analyzed specific demons. So for example, I am currently in the second big region (the part where I am rescuing a bunch of kidnapped students). I literally just fought a bunch of Rakshasha demons in the school prior to entering this area. I distinctly remember using the Spy Glass to analyze their strengths and weaknesses. Now I am fighting more Rakshasha. But the game acts like I don't know anything about them. There have been multiple instances of this, and it's infuriating. All it's doing is making me waste Spy Glass items and making me waste a turn with my Nahobino.
>>547529345We made it to the ruins and discovered that our choice of target in the final vision quest decided the final boss's form, and after navigating a relatively easy final dungeon we make it to Manitou.Phase 1 was a huge pain in the dick with multiple wipes until I realized I could just go with the time tested rpg tactic of zombifying almost my whole party to make myself effectively unkillable.Phase 2 was very touch and go but I eventually fell into a rhythm of having my zombie army tank most of the attacks while healing out the occasional Megidolaon or Spore Bullet. Once it was in the red they started using desperation Apocalypses that very nearly wiped me since I quickly ran out of single target heal options but I just barely managed to snipe the kill with one last attack from the E.F.G.'s shitty little pistol for about 20 damage.Nemissa returns to the earth, Manitou dies, and the world is saved at least until mankind decides to kill itself again.SOUL HACKERS COMPLETE.Kino game held back by the occasional pretty shitty dungeon. The difficulty was quite nice after a long stint of pretty easy entries and it definitely had one of the strongest settings in the series and a pretty good story despite a lot of plot mandated retardation on the part of the cast. Ending felt a mite rushed but that's a nitpick.Persona 2 next, will be running PS1 version.Is Innocent Sin/Eternal Punishment a pokemon Red/Blue situation or are they actual separate games?
>>547545071Actual separate games. Eternal Punishment is a direct sequel.
>>547547136Thanks plenty.>>547545071I'm heading to bed, but in the meantime anyone can feel free to come up with names for our new MC and motorcycle enthusiast. I'll probably pick one when I wake up.
>>547542089They're treated as different entities in the school, but once you analyze the ones in Shinagawa once you should not need to do it again.
uhh, Shin Megami Tensei?
>>547551085more like SHIT MeGAYmi TURDsei
SMT? More like Persona-lite!
Why does anyone like SMT? Persona has better story, EO has better dungeon crawling, what is the point of SMT???
>klingerschizo recognizes this as the "weaker" general now so he's posting his shit here now good luck /smtg/
>>547557427Answer my question, bitch
>>547545071>Is Innocent Sin/Eternal Punishment a pokemon Red/Blue situation or are they actual separate games?They're a duology so direct sequel.>>547547804You should probably just use Tatsuya's default name because of story reasons.
>>547557427but i don't see any rats
>>547557427literally who
>>547557427His name is avery.
>>547535281>Guy is doing visual novel in Unreal EnginePoor thing. It also will run like shit, if it ever reached released state (chances for that: 5%).
Why is smtg so fragile as to be tormented and mind broken by a fat esl troon?
>>547569834I never pay attention to him and neither should anybody else
>>547569834You shouldn't be so harsh on yourself Warren. Just lose some weight, work on your English and stop being a tranny and things will work out for you, I know it.
>>547569893I don't understand how you could stand it here. There's no game discussion or fan art posting worth it
>>547570391I've been here for over a decade
>>547570391Ok avery.
>>547569893>he says while paying attention to him
>>547540562>Every visual aspect ranges from amateur to "baby's first Unreal Engine map" to "this was literally made in mspaint"If he used AI, you would be even more outraged
Foul Whataboutism
What the fuck!?!?!? You mean Susano-o isn't actually gay in his mythology!?!?!?
>>547573990I'm surprised most Japs don't find making him gay disrespectful. Imagine if they made Jesus gay in some western production, would be very different.
>>547574651It's ignorant that you'd say that actually. The don't see their gods as bodily individuals, they're spirits. They also multiply and divide and give birth regardless of gender. That is why they don't care.
What's the over under that the thread doesn't survive into the weekday
>>547575376It's still weird to make him gay for no reason other than being scared of having a female protagonist
>Strange Journey Redux>kill second alignment rep at level 72 after grinding the usual Debilitate, Luster Candy, buff stripping spells on demons that have decent resistances to the boss.>check final boss moveset so I don't fuse something away that might have been useful>random immunities, status effects, insta-death, all-element attacks, void element attacksYeah this is where I get off. Game was fun but the demon sources and inheritance make making decent demons for the past couple of bosses such a chore.
>>547575726bitch boy
>>547575641That was likely the only reason and Yamai was too bullheaded to change his script.
>>547576081I don't know these gentlemen but they seem nice.
>>547576301They're part of a bizarre quest, but it's worth the journey
>>547576095Should've been serpentheaded instead
>>547576468will they kill the final boss for me?
>>547577998I'm glad you got my pun.
>>547576081They filtered millions
>>547581063The vanilla story boss on the right did?
>>547581304*Asura Roga's you*Heh, hope you dismissed your demons before fighting me.
>>547581550>uses commander skillLol what now bitch boy
>>547583103you didn't beat the game
>>547583103>Redux
>>547570465And it was much better for the first half that decade.
>>547583253>taking a mad shit rn lads
Bought some good games instead of tranny tensei and flopduo
Your taste is so bad that I won't even spare a (You). Also AI is tranny shit but you probably know that.
>AI Somnium Based>CottonBased>Castlevania Based>Pokemon Cringe>Yugioh BasedYou get a 8.5 out of 10 in terms of taste
>>547584390>Pokemonai is based though.
>>547584883I give him a 0 on ZA alone. If you're this much of a shit eating retard then it negates any other good taste you might have.
>>547585037But enough about SMT V
>>547585037ZA is actually a good game. I know "muh pokemon bad", but the gameplay is very addicting for a action JRPG.>"B-but the dogshit writing"Nobody plays Pokemon for the story.
>>547585659https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
How did they fuck up V's story so badly twice, with years in between to fix it.
Why did SMTV kill my wife and kids?
>>547585659Very funny. Next you'll say every Mario game is better than smt. Except SH2 which is the best game of all time.
>>547583248>>547583253It's ok because I played on Impossible and I don't do any damage outside of Co-op (why did they balance it like this)
>>547585037It's just your typical guilty pleasure, cut him a break. >>547585659I haven't played since XY but I doubt it. These games lack the rigor to be engaging for more than a few hours unless you're a compfag, which swings in the opposite direction because you need to familiarize yourself with a hugely bloated meta.
>>547586873
>>547590446I miss them so much
>>547569335elaborate?
>>547586873Picked the chaos ending.
Is it fine to play SMTV's canon of vengeance first while knowing nothing about the canon on creation?I was planning on doing creation and then going back for vengeance if the game hypes me up enough, but I hear so many bad things it that I'm wondering if I should just play vengeance and then go to creation if I like the game enough
>>547597442Yes, play CoV first. It's very easy to get burned out after playing one route and CoC is not that good
I don't even like VV but CoV expects the player to know CoC events. You should play CoC first and then play CoV.
>>547598482>CoV expects the player to know CoC eventsName 'em
>>547598631>no nothing about Aogami's character arc or that he can actually bitch at you if you pick Yakumo's route>everything about Lahmu and Sahori is skipped>everything in Chiyoda is skipped>everything about Dazai and Abdiel is skipped>know nothing about the Bethel council or why Odin and Zeus team up suddenly>think Khonsu is only a nice guy and don't see how he tried to turn Miyazu into a god against her willProbably other shit too. Also that subquest that explains how humans use knowledge to unknowingly warp reality is good world building that is skipped over entirely in CoV.
>>547535281He doesn't seem very knowledgeable about most of what is needed to actually remake the game, honestly he should just make a short smt fan game for fun instead of anything dauting like that
>look online just about general info on nocturne bored, every build discussion is just >YOU NEED TO GO PHYSICAL>literally worse than magic for 95% of the game classic meme
>>547603070how did you come to this conclusion
https://strawpoll.com/YVyPvYxbogN
>>547606596How am I supposed to rate a game I haven't played yet?
>>547607902vote based on how hot you think the nahobino is
>>547597648>>547601806Well, that sounds like a lot of stuff, although I have no idea how important these are to the story. Aogami is that guy that the mc fuses with, right? I guess it would suck to do a whole campaign knowing nothing about him
>>547607902That doesn't stop /v/
>>547608908Bro just play CoV. None of the shit he listed actually matters and the story sucks in both routes anyways. Play the version that has better content, which is CoV, and then decide if you want to play CoC for more.
>>547608908That kind of is the problem with CoV. Aogami has limited scenes as it is and CoV makes it even shorter.
>>5476065960/5 haven't played
>>547609512And it doesn't matter because Aogami is a boring doormat
>>547609735Anon, why would I care about your shit opinion about a game you don't like?
>>547610027Why are you trying to ruin someone's first experience with VV by making them play the shit route is a better question. I'm doing more for him than you are
>>547610114>I hate the story>telling him to play the route that forces you to engage with the story more>only added bonus CoV has is guest charactersIf you expect him to hate the story, he will hate both routes no matter what. The only thing CoC doesn't have is guest characters which don't add much, especially if you don't give a shit about the story because the biggest thing they add is dialog in the demon haunt.
>>547610589Anon... I'm telling him to play CoV first because it has better CONTENT. I don't care about the story just like most people don't, I want him to enjoy the route that plays better. Simple as.
>>547610778>better contentIt's the fucking same. That is the exact reason why you're warning him about burn out playing it once.
I don't know if you're retarded or disingenuous but I'm out.
Atlus should bring back elemental side effects to mainline SMT.
>>547620121Too hard to balance.
>>547620416Man fuck the balance.
>>547620121This.
Mudo.
Mamudoonmadyne
>>547632232>>547632457>Absorbs DarkMmmm~ yummy yummy in my tummy.
>>547571702I wouldn't.I don't care if AI is used as long as it looks good enough.If you know how to use AI to produce a good interface, by all means, use it.If there's clear indications of AI being used though, meaning you did a poor job, then I will definitely point it out.
>>547586873Shin Megami Tensei Three: Nocturne, Would never kill my wife and kids.
Chaos: School is for loserLaw: Be a good student :)
>>547603070Physical is superior for TDE at the very end which is why I assume that opinion is parroted. When you're just doing a normal ending without needing Pierce then magic naturally blows phys out of the water.
>>547634137>Why still care about school?SAAR
>last reply 36 minutes ago>already on page 8Jesus christ.
>>547637773Gacha niggers are rabid animals that need to be contained elsewhere
>>547637773kys schizo
>>547637979Why are they not on /vmg/ again?
If SMT VI is gonna have more demons than V, then in my opinion atlus should bring back alignment based recruitment.
>>547620121
Ronde but purple
>smt 5 is the best selling smt game ever>six isn't already in production Is atlus incompetent?
>>547651445It's probably like in the pre-planning stage.
>>547547804Got started, Music is god tier so far and only beat by Majin Tensei 2's ost.From the sound design I was expecting the game to take a heavy horror lean like SMT1 did but instead it's actually more comedic than P1 was, feeling more like Last Bible 3. Rumor system looks like it has potential to be either really fun or really annoying depending on how it's rolled out.The sprites are impressively expressive for a PS1 game and then I get slapped in the eyeballs with one of the ugliest sprite portraits I ever did see. Lighting makes this poor kid look like a starving African child from those charity commercials was picked to be a stand in for Boris Karloff in the Mummy.Eikichi keeps getting random perma-buffs after battle and now his persona is absolutely swole. Not sure what that's about but I'll take it. I also very much appreciate getting a proper tutorial for this new wonky-but-not-as-wonky-as-P1 negotiation system. Thank you, Slime.
>>547651706>Music is god tierThe duology probably has my favorite soundtrack of out any Megaten game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJneUxGz7FM
>Press X to Crit
>>547651552It's likely in the "concept stage", with people in a meeting room throwing out ideas and concepts for what SMT VI could be about. Actual development for the game won't start until P4R & EO6 are done, btw.
God has cursed us all.
>>547663269/smtg/ is a reincarnation of Hijiri who is a reincarnation of Aleph
>>547663526How badly is Vkun cursed for the nuchaos end?
>>547663269What ya gonna do about it? Kill God? Hehehehe, yeah right get real.
>>547663661>CursedHe's erased from existence btw
>>547663895The Great Will is the one cursing him. You can't erase his lawtism.
>>547664281There's literally nobody to curse when the entire universe gets erased from existence
>>547664861It was only V's universe that got erased in CoV chaos. Another one of Atlus West's fuck ups. Yoko never said "every universe" in Japanese. Also Satan will tell you it's only V's universe changed by the MC's decisions in every ending. Ol' GW is still alive and kicking and also mad.
the great will is the worst thing ever introduced in this franchise since it's very obvious that atlus is planning some kind of avengers endgame scenario where all the (approved) protagonists will team up to permanently kill the great will
>>547665654But how does the Axiom factor into this?
>>547665720they'll just have the axiom be a part of the great will
>>547665920It would be funny if they are conflicting forces and the Axiom is actually some kind of chaotic force purely because it's unpredictable besides causing trouble for the GW with all its messiah and YHVH respawns.
Atlus is the AxiomCozy was the Great Will (Lucifer going to destroy it represents Cozy leaving Atlus)
>>547665654On the topic of capeshit and SMT, I wouldn't be surprised if killing the Great Will cuases a omniversal reboot or some shit, DC comics and SMT seem to have that in common among other things.
>>547668086Or they just keep the GW as some unreachable and intangible law entity.
>>547668328That would be nice, but the way Atlus is presenting the Great Will currently just reeks of a future confrontation, but the question is will it be like last Bible where we only fight a small fragment of the GW, or a full body GW? We'll just have to wait and see.
>>547668761You might think it reeks that way but they didn't really make the GW an antagonist at all. V is the most gnostic game next to NINE and they set it up where YHVH (or whoever was on the throne) was the false god, while the GW is the real god. The real god is fair and noble unlike the false god who is constantly raging over his creations debasing him. The GW is mad at you but he lets you do what you want inevitably. Instead he set it up so that Satan would judge you for the path you've taken. It's also kind of up in the air as to whether he will actually curse you like Hijiri was cursed but that's mostly because all the shit with Hijiri is still completely unexplained. GW could still stay just like he is.
SMT but Lucifer wins control over the world and turns into Law, then YHVH sides with the resistance as the Chaos mascot
>>547670026Sounds like a normal day in American politics.
>>547593420>>547601957All these alpha- beta- demo- "guys look at my idea" fan projects will be cancelled. If they were really working on a full-fledged fan game, they would have shown it when the game was at least 70 percent ready. Otherwise it's just attention whoring.
>>547620121These lazy cunts can't even bring non PS3 roster of demons.
>page 10 again
>>547682230total dissolution comes next
>>547665229I'm confused by this, and it makes me wonder what Lucifer is even doing. TDE, which is what everything in V proceeds from, is Lucifer starting a campaign to destroy the entire cycle of death and rebirth for every universe. All of existence as a whole. To this end he has Demifiend go through a job interview after killing off one universe and it's YHVH avatar in Kagutsuchi. Now, maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but Lucifer managed to kill YHVH himself at the start of V, not just some avatar in universe #4852. That's how he merged with YHVH's knowledge and got behind the wheel of the Mandala system overall, which governs ALL universes rather than just being a mechanism for death and rebirth in one. When you fight him at the end what I got out of his dialogue is that upon reaching this apex of power he understood that he didn't have the means to thwart the mandala system even after merging with YHVH'S knowledge, so he needs to commit suicide by Bino because... Bino maybe can? But in just about every ending Bino just recreates the world again. I don't recall any mention of him destroying the cycle of death and rebirth that is ingrained into the Mandala system, even when he breaks the throne that's probably just one mechanism in the system which can be replaced. Every other ending, even Yoko's that coincides with the stereotypical "muh true freedom" is just another rebirth no? Basically what I'm wondering is what does Lucifer accomplish by getting himself killed and ceding all the power he has gained thus far to Bino?
>>547682769Satan states very plainly that there is 0 impact on the system as a whole even if vkun frees the world he was in from the mandala system There are endless dead Megatron lucifers for mastema to summon Satan with
>>547682769Demifiend defeated YHVH. And they're still in the same universe as Nocturne in V. As to why, when he absorbed YVVH's knowledge Lucifer understood he himself is an Avatar of the Great Will in the same way Kagutsuchi and YHVH are, his rebellion is just another side of Mandala. This is actualized by the throne curse, Lucifer was never allowed to take the throne himself and end the cycle, he can only act as it's arbitrer. It is not a twist of fate, it's the Great Will at work. When Bino defeats Lucy he takes the knowledge and no matter the ending the world that results from that victory is severed from Mandala achieving Lucy's original objective.
Bros I don't think we can survive reinterpetting the V plot the same way again for the 5000th time
>>547684603Ok, get this, what if we describe the gay romance in the game for the 5000th time instead? Bet you didn't consider that.
>the two straight Nahobino fusing humans (Dazai and Yakumo) are also the most interesting characters in the gameHow do the gays cope with this?
>>547683897>>547684184So all that work for wresting one universe out of countless others from the mandala system. No wonder Lucifer wanted to commit suicide.
The Great WIll did nothing wrong.
>>547688309It tried to raise the price of Costco hotdogs.
>>547684184>Demifiend defeated YHVH. And they're still in the same universe as Nocturne in V.Not possible. Lucifer explains what becomes of the world when Demi kills Kagutsuchi and it lines up completely with the world the fiends describe coming from. He also said it will be in darkness with time frozen. V's world was neither trapped in eternal darkness or time stopped. You guys need to realize that the map similarities in V and Nocturne are just references to the conception and that it looks similar between worlds because they both happened in Tokyo.
I still don't like that Atlus decided to make SMT V a "sequel" to Nocturne, to me it just feels poorly executed as a sequel.
>>547694235Feel free to explain why without saying nostalgia pandering. A sequel game has to make references to the one that came before it.
>>547695597NTA but no one has to explain shit to Vfags
>>547696427Retard.
>>547691403The world literally is frozen though. The plot of V I'd that the apocalypse has began but the world is stuck in a stagnation loop because nobody is on the throne. Not only that but they specify that this calamity is specifically because of the failed Conception in V. BTW the fiends AREN'T from Nocturne's world either. In both games they are travelers of Amala who were brought to that world by Lucifer.b
>>547698181I thought you guys like getting scraps of info so you can headcanon conclusions. Do you really want anon to give a definitive answer on why he doesn't like V as a sequel?
>>547698345You really need to hear everything he says here:https://youtu.be/R-CkRW9eNzo?si=sdVLC96HvJZ9ExEP&t=20298>humans are no longer born>everything is in darkness>time is stopped>land of deathNone of this happened in V when YHVH died. Absolutely nothing changed which is why everyone thought the war was still going on. Outside of Tokyo the world is normal and they even tell you that. And also Goko commends the Nahobino for wanting to take the throne and says it's the GW's desire. In Nocturne, you're told everything Demi does in that ending pisses off the GW.
>>547695597I just feel like V would've been better as a standalone game instead of a squeal to Nocturne or more specifically a squeal to the TDE, cuase the way I see it destroying your home universe to help some idiot achieve freedom, only for your efforts to be revealed to be pointless, but the same idiot comes up with a dumb suicide plan because he's a massive pussy who can't handle the GW's wild ride, just feels silly to me, it comes off more as a comedy than a tragedy for me honestly.
>>547699285The suicide plan is how he handled the wild ride though. Break the system within the system.
>>547699004Taking the throne is sorting out the problem created by DF. And it needs to be pointed out that YHVH worked a miracle to prevent Makai from spilling out into the rest of the world (Shekinah Glory)
>the joke is gay sex
>>547694235I don't understand why they even decided to make a sequel to Nocturne. Was it because of development issues? Were the devs struggling to make a original story and decided to go for a nostalgic bait plot instead? Did Komori just wanted to get SMT V out of the way to work on E06, so he made the most lazy story possible while pleasing PS2 era fans?
>the plot is gay sex
So uhhh... did you guys hear that Atlus wants to make JRPG 3.0...
>>547651706After murdering a toilet demon (Thankfully far less of a pain in the ass than P1's kamikaze toilet demons) for clout and some very expensive white powder, we recruit a new friend and an old friend to save the school from the curse of the emblems. Though the principal is gone it seems his brainwashing of the students and faculty is still in effect as almost everyone believes he saved the school instead of us, the sheeple. The principal escaped so our only lead now is to go bother the head of the journalism club for rumors. Meanwhile Eikichi's Persona continues to pump iron and also upgraded a skill for no apparent reason. Are the Sweepstakes worth going for? I rumored it into reality but haven't tried for it yet.
>>547703271Nothing you said refutes what I said so I don't know what you're trying to prove. Nothing about the world made at the end of the maniax ending matches with V's current world as if we just jumped 20 years later or something like that.
https://youtu.be/h-Ag2K1MeAE?si=WJeVApxQyBlRU-Ol
>>547711947More like GAYmotifs
>>547711947>the Shakan theme leitmotif is the original ending song for CoC>the song Kozuka said he made sad because of the true neutral endENOUGH
Holy crap, the hit game Soul Hackers 2™ is only $11.99 on Steam™ right now!
>>547715283If you have not played it, do it now
Soul Hackers 2 Changed My Life
>>547705010>the plot is you're Eve (male)
Is Raidou worth the 34 bucks?
>>547719046No, emulate the original that unironically looks better
>>547719372Yeah but it plays like complete shitI actually like the demo here
>>547709938>Are the Sweepstakes worth going for? I rumored it into reality but haven't tried for it yet.I don't even remember how those work so no advice from me
>>547719046The game is rather short (40 hours on a first playthrough I think?) but I enjoyed it.
Soul Spackers 2
I'd rather play Metaphor.
>>547721879and not just over soul lackers 2
I'd rather stick a metal rod down my shaft
>>547722270that can be arranged
>>547686091The better question is, how is it that the relationship between the MC and Aogami is so uninteresting when it is the developer proclaimed focus of the game's narrative? They wrote the game believing everyone would walk away thinking it was moving, fujo or not. That said, I see far more westerners complain about how boring Aogami is compared to the Japanese.
>>547476083I will never get over how they gave this hafu the two best scenes in the game where one is just him getting motivated and the other is him skullfucking Yuzuru and Tsukuyomi's retarded ideology.
>>547722892Also the most god tier music tracks dedicated to him and his angel waifu.
>>547723170Someone at Atlus must really love Dazai, because one that's a lot of tracks for a side character and two the fact that Dazai and Yuzuru exist is funny as hell, a track made specifically to fuck over a Chaos rep is wild.
>>547715283Nocturne HD was finally cracked.It's a matter of time before SH2 gets cracked too.Don't waste your money.
Why is she a loli?
>>547719046No.If you must play it, either use the PC demo unlocker or emulate the Switch version.The remaster is, for lack of a better word, soulless.
>>547729814Don't you want to support your favorite company?
>>547730176I don't want to support mediocre products.Also ATLUS isn't my favorite company.I don't have a favorite company.That sounds like a faggot thing.Businesses are not your friends, they make vidja for money these days and there's little passion or love involved for the most part, save for VERY few exceptions.
i'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkill skunk then down it with beer
>>547730470Every time you pirate one of their games, they have to fire an Atlus employee. People are losing their livelihoods because of this, anon. Have a heart.
wheres my goddamn book lionwing
Also yes, SH2 is a mediocre product.I didn't even buy it with my own money and I felt scammed anyway.I STILL have to go back and finish a few Soul Matrix things and the last 2 (or maybe 3?) fights but I can't be arsed because it's just a boring game.It's honestly insane to me that this boring turd has paid story DLC desu.
>>547705010I thought it was straight sex
>>547731487omg did you guys hear that? someone thinks soul hackers 2 is bad! breaking news!! everybody….breaking news!! everybody listen up, there is a person here who thinks soul hackers 2 is bad!riveting, unique take we haven’t heard before. thank you for this post!!!
>>547732246It was an extension of my previous post.Also stop acting like such a faggot, it's disgusting.You're welcome though.
>>547732246You seem upset
Why not play Metaphor?
>>547732524 persona lets me date teenage girls and metaphor doesn’t so i see no reason to ever play metaphor
>>547732524I dunno its on my backlog I got it when it first came out, playing it on hard mode because lol persona difficulty
>>547732524I play metaphor more than I play mainline
>>547731557Yoko just wants to be friends and the MC only gives a shit about Aogami.
>>547734565chaos ending is her and bino resetting the world and being the new adam and eve
It’s actually impressive how many times you guys have posted misinterpretations of V’s endings.
>>547736813>story is intentionally vague >"wtf why does everyone have different interpretations"If everything was explained clearly, I honestly don't think anyone would talk about this dog turd story desu
>>547735905>the chaos ending exists in a vacuum outside of everything that happened in the game before it>doesn't matter what anyone says or does, only what I see in this scene mattersThat's why that interpretation is retarded. Ignores Yoko is a snake, the tree is connected to Aogami and the MC, Yoko's bullshit about wanting a friend, and all the adam and eve imagery that has nothing to do with Yoko all over the game before this scene.
>>547737716chaos pussy got nahabino acting unwise
>>547738391I'd do the same if I had some robohomo groomer talking in my head
>>547738391Just admit gooners jumped the gun and used "ambiguity" as an excuse not to read or pay attention.
>it's another episode of arguing over the chaos ending Fitting since you fags were arguing about whether the game takes place in Nocturne's world yet again earlier. V was a mistake.
>>547738973In defense of the the people who think V is a sequel to Nocturne the devs put WAY too many memberberries and crumbs from Nocturne in V. Notably the archangel and Asakusa shit in the 4th area. But then you also have contradictions like V Lucifer only learning about the Mandala shit after he consumed YHVH's knowledge when in Nocturne he already knew the universe was trapped in a cycle of recreation.
>>547739648Not like this Atlus bros
What fucking bullshit is this?
>>547738973It's funny how you're implying that's a bad thing. A game that has lore to dig into is one with lasting appeal.
>>547739648The Chinese are still furious about P5R lol.
Does Lucifer's unique skill in Vengeance actually serve any purpose besides being a double cost Megidoloan? >removes chargeLiterally irrelevant with the way turn order works. Bosses get charge through Magatsuhi on THEIR turn. >removes barrierWow this is so op... about 3 playthroughs ago, midgame, for 1-2 bosses.
>>547739376V is a Nocturne sequel it just not the same world. I feel like this isn't even difficult to grasp. It's just "you know who" exaggerating again and making it sound like it's controversial when it's not.
>>547741676They love P5R though? They were not fans of P3R
>>547740993It's called good game design.
>>547744951You didn't hear about how they fucked over Chinese players?
>>547739648Is that Chinese persona gacha still going?
>>547657578>EO6
>>547756261Somehow.
>>547686091>>547722785>2025>/smtg/ still doesn't understand V's subtextI remember why I left this place, baka...
>>547767726If by chance you're not memeing and talking about how the game makes a direct parallel between Yakumo and his side bitch and the MC and his side bitch, I know about that. Mainly because the game treats the player like a retard and has Nuwa say it point blank in the demon haunt. But the fact remains that Yakumo and Nuwa are still more interesting than the MC and Aogami despite getting 10x more focus.
I'm sure you guys get this question a lot, but for a first time smt V, is there any reason to select the option at the start that puts me on the regular version story? Is the vengence version just a ++ version of the base story, or do they diverge in such a way where the base version has stuff to offer that the vengence version doesn't?
>>547768431They are both very similar, CoV has more story, as in, the game stops you for dialog more than the original which is more gameplay forward without interruption. CoV however expects you to know the story of CoC at multiple points but the story will still make sense without it. In terms of content, CoV has a different 3rd map than the original and you can take guest characters, absolutely everything else is the same. Both routes have exclusive demons, and bosses that the other doesn't and so on but that's obvious. But because they are so similar it's possible you'll play one route and have no interest in playing the game over again. CoV has slightly more content but it will make more sense if you play CoC first. If you want all the demons and super bosses, you need to play both routes regardless. That's all the info I can give you. Make your choice based on that.
Wait... CoC... CoV... Cock (Aogami ending) vs Vagina (Yoko ending).................
>>547657578P4R has nothing to do with SMT6?
>>547774040This autismo keeps insisting that the entire team that made SMTV has completely dissolved to go work on P6, P4R, and EO6 and that any SMT development potentially involving V or otherwise is completely dead.
5 fucking hours without a single post lmao
>>547792285Yeah I slept good. How did you sleep, anon?
>>547756261That stupid shit was worth it for the slammer guy.
>"Anon, I. . ."
>>547796726no way fag
I want to fuck Asahi
>>547797552Asahi doesn't want to fuck (You)
>>547768126Helps that the pair are 10/10 designs compared to the twink tokushit of the MC. I want an MC that has Yakumo's cool factor, but apparently that's a filthy gaijin opinion and the Japs prefer the twinks.
>>547798596do the nips still dislike gorilla protagonists? I remember that being a thing back in the day
>>547798076Her consent isn’t a factor
>>547798750Dagda would be proud
>>547798843The rapes will continue to happen until stockholm syndrome takes effect
People really did not like SMT V, huh
such a shame they ended the series with smt 4
>>547804292there's that, soul hackers 2, subpar raidou remake and the fact that they've been milking persona 5 for close to a decade now
>>547804374To me it ended with IVA. IVA showed to me that they could still make good gameplay at least, but then V killed that hope.
>>547804374At least that one felt like smt
>>547804292>square, game freak and namco basically completely blackyou know what? the nips have pretty good taste minus nintendo
>>547804704Nintendo is still the best company on that list
>>547804838pfft
>>547804704>NipsAnon, that's the chinese.
>>547804993Maybe I'd rate FromSoft above them but that's it. The absolute state of the gaming industry is pretty sad.
>>547805049Hey dumb fuck, can't you read?
>>547493193>challenging JRPG but also with a story that is captivatingStrange Journey, maybe Strange Journey Redux.Or perhaps IV on harder difficulties. It is considered to be one of easiest ones after the first boss(es?), but it may be harder to a newcomer.
>>547804374But 4 was bad.
This is how I look and feel right now.
>>547809884same
>>547809884
>>547808987It was bad in a good way.
>>547814418Unironically
>>547808987But it was still SMT
>>547814418There is no such thing.
>>547808987I liked the story and atmosphere at least.
>>547819883I'm still bitter about how it starts off strong and then fell off completely and how IVA somehow made it even worse. Every other game stayed consistent, even V. When I found out Yamai rewrote Kaneko's script for IV it became obvious to me why the first stretch of IV was the only good part. And now looking back I see how the Maniax lore dumps are a mess too. I think the only thing I like Yamai for is Raidou and I think he should stick with it from now on.
>>547820525The IV remake will use Kaneko's full scriptTrust the plan
Now that nocturne is cracked I'll uhhh...
>>547804292Atlus broke hard with the gachabrain trends especially when it comes to character design, that's all it really is
>>547824087pay for it like a good boy
>>547824087emulate the PS2 version
>>547824087Is it really? Doesn't it still have denuvo on it?
>>547826395yes and it was cracked
>>547826505Is there a new tranny cracker on the scene?
>>547827659some nigga called voices38
SMT IV: RETOLD
>>547827990THE VOICES
>one of my demons levels up>it gives me its essence>but I already have its essence in my inventory, so this freebie is basically gone foreverWhat a dumb system to limit players to only one of each essence.
>>547824087>audio on music is still shit (apparently you can use a mod with lossless music files, but that doesn't excuse the fact that the devs couldn't be bothered to do this themselves)>game is capped at 30fpsShit """"remaster""""".
>>547832331>game is capped at 30fpsKek really? At that point why does the crack matter when you can just emulate the switch version.
>>547833842What does the HD remaster matter when you can just emulate the original?>Manual Skill InheritanceFucking casualries.
>>547834390Honestly because pcex2 or whatever the fuck it's called sucks. Or at least it was stuttery back when I emulated nocturne over a decade ago. Switch emu seems smoother overall, could be wrong because I have no clue how far ps2 emulation has progressed.
>>547841748https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNprYJNAzBs
>>547833842Yeah, SMT3's "remaster" is just the game upscaled. Lazy as fuck. Meanwhile, Raidou Remastered runs above 30fps even on Switch 1. And it runs a buttery smooth 60fps on Switch 2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sAVTWH-aAEIt's bizarre to me. SMT3 is like the most well-known game in the series, and they completely botched the remaster.
>>547828728Never ever.
>>547834390>why does the HD remaster matter?Insaniax is about to drop.
>>547850530that's crazy
>>547850805It unironically is. Nobody makes jack shit for this series so the release of the largest mod since Zombero made Hardtype in a cave with a box of scraps is actually a big deal.
tldr on insaniax?
>>547859084It's insane
>>547859084It's essentially a port of Hardtype for the HD remaster but with even more shit that wouldn't have been possible to add to the Ps2 version. He's implemented new demons, innate skills from Vengeance, and redesigned every boss in the game. A notable feature that will be in the full release is a boss fight against true form YHVH from Apocalypse.https://youtu.be/iFyDr-15iUY?si=v-Q9Vee44LStDu7g
>>547814418This, meanwhile V was good in a bad way.
>>547860319based
>>547860319>It's essentially a port of Hardtype for the HD remaster but with even more shit that wouldn't have been possible to add to the Ps2 version. He's implemented new demons, innate skills from Vengeance, and redesigned every boss in the game. BAS->A notable feature that will be in the full release is a boss fight against true form YHVH from Apocalypse.oh no it's cringe
>>547861306The YHVH fight is pure kino on massacre route without your gay friends
>>547861306You're retarded. The final boss is easily the best part of Apocalypse. I'd argue it's the best final boss in the whole series.
>>547861439>>547861609children like you ruined this series
>>547862243
>>547862243Zip it Avery/Warren/Faggotface
It's always a nice change of pace to see him not complain about V for the 100th time though, right?
>>547863885Sure, as long as you don't attribute all of the V hate to him because I do a fair amount of it myself.
>>547863885If anything his retarded takes bump this dead ass general.
>>547864161There is a difference between criticism and then saying "Even the latest Kirby game is better than V". But then again your post is likely a false flag anyway.
>>547864331It's not a false flag and yeah, that's what I mean, there are very obvious tells when it's him. All I'm saying is he isn't the only one who likes to shitpost, I can at least speak on my behalf. I'll give some legit criticism sometimes too but I don't bother because of how hopeless I find a lot of Vfags to be.
>>547864331Let's not jump at shadows. Just call out bad criticism when you see it. It's a bad look if you start pointing fingers at anyone who criticizes V. I love the game post vengeance but it isn't without flaws.
>>547864663The hopeless V fags you're describing don't exist. No one in this general thinks V is a masterpiece.
>>547864769I disagree
>>547864759You need to realize his tactic is insisting he doesn't exist and then follows it with insane claims that "Vfags" like vore or have horrible taste. It's always him.
>>547864941Ok but who cares? He never posts anything that warrants a more dignified response than "fuck off" so just pay him no mind and carry on with your day.
>>547864173He's not the hero we need, but the one we deserve.
>>547864173the general is dead because he's a tedious shitbag who's always in it
I want more Shin Megoomi tenso
>>547866206No the general is dead because it's been months with no news or games to look forward to. Go look at /feg/ if you want to see a general that was actually killed by a schizo. That freakish entity spammed so much scat and gore that a large chunk of that general permanently migrated to /v/ where they eke out their days complaining daily about jannies deleting their threads for being stealth generals. Now THAT'S a pitiful existence.
>>547866738fatlus doesn't
>>547866786Yeah he's relatively harmless compared to the real schizos of /vg/ and /v/. Also I remember one time the /feg/ schizo was spamming here for some godforsaken reason
>>547865246>Ok but who cares?>makes a shitpost>replies to himself multiple times to agree with himself>makes condescending replies to posts he doesn't like>someone finally actually replies to him to tell him to fuck off >acts like he is the dominating opinion of the general "everyone hates this too!">says /smtg/ is dead>rinse and repeatWho cares though right? His only goal is that the general crashes and burns. He doesn't like smt at all.
>>547867270You unironically need to stop caring because he won't leave regardless of what you do. That's how all of the somewhat serious schizos on this website operate. You reply to them: they reply back. You don't reply to them: they reply to their self. Unless you have mods targeting their ass, it can't be helped.
>>547867986My point though is that it's unavoidable.
>>547868302Lots of things are unavoidable. So either deal with it or leave.
>>547868302Yeah, so like the other anon said, who cares? Be grateful he isn't as bad as he used to be.
>he's not false flagging, honest he isn't
>>547868930>when you become so obsessed with a schizo you become schizo yourselfAnon stop
>>547862243>not liking the dual party gimmickYou're just narrow minded
Demons? Demons.
Anyone want a drawing?
Atlus, please improve the alignment system.
>>547875002of what
>>547875002Do Artemis squeezing a struggling Bino's head between her thighs.
>>547878232Ok.
good morning saar
>>547875002draw Chiaki committing a hate crime against mudmen
>>547875002how about mt1 loki?
>>547875791How would you suggest doing that without making it exactly like DnD?
SMT but with 3 starter demons to choose from, gyms, and an elite 4.
>>547884684there's a demon in my pocket
>>547833842>At that point why does the crack matter when you can just emulate the switch version.The PC version has a 60fps mod, the Switch version doesn't.
>>547834390>What does the HD remaster matter when you can just emulate the original?Mods, better visuals, and yes, manual skill inheritance.>Fucking casualries.Circle and Cross.You rerolled skills like everyone else, so I don't know who are you trying to fool.You think skipping that completely unnecessary, tedious playtime-inflating restriction is a casual thing?I've news for you: you're clinically retarded.
>>547832331>game is capped at 30fpsAlso moddable just like the compressed OST.https://gamebanana.com/wips/69935>Shit """"remaster""""".That it is.But it's also better than emulating the PS2 version, even without the community support which only makes it even better.You'd have to pay me to play with much lower texture resolution, blurriness, lower res font and random skill inheritance.And then the mods simply serve to elevate it even more.https://gamebanana.com/mods/393752https://gamebanana.com/mods/443748https://gamebanana.com/wips/69935
>>547888942>Also moddableIs this framerate mod an actual 60fps mod (like how you can make certain PSP and 3DS games capped at 30fps on the original hardware actually run at 60fps on emulators) or is it just doubling the game speed (like God Hand on PCSX2)?
>>547892474my wife and her girlfriend :)
>>547888942>much lower texture resolution, blurriness, lower res fontAll of this can be easily fixed by increasing the native resolution. >random skill inheritanceThis is literally just a skill issue. If you can't handle how older games work then don't bother playing them.
>>547892914
>>547894229I want you to go emulate Nocturne right now, crank up the native res as high as you can, take screenshots and then show us how it magically improves the textures and fonts and also gets rid of the built in blurring
>>547894445not him but it is possible to get rid of the blurriness, idk how I did it though
>>547896248Yeah I know, I used a similar hack when emulating the DDS duology. Point is that increasing the resolution does not fix it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLUnwcITUF4
SMT x the last non-megaten game you finished
>>547897676>Super Mario 3D WorldJack Bros. 3D platformer I guess. I'd buy it.
>>547897676>SMTxNioh 2This would actually be really cool. That's like close to 300 extra yokai soul cores to use in combat.
>>547897959Wtf I also just played Nioh 2 like a few minutes ago...
>>547897959I been saying TN should make Raidou 3
>>547897676smt x yodobayashi oyasama clubso basically the strange journey doom wad
Hehehehehe, jack frost? More like fart frost.
>>547897676>SMT x Turret GirlsInteresting...
>>547897676>SMT x Underraillol that’s just 4 and KMT2
>>547897676>SMT x Fire EmblemWhy must you hurt me so?
>>547888462>better visualsKEK
>>547827990He is probably russian, we are always good at shit like that
>>547897676>SMT x ER Nightreign I don't think Atlus is going to try multiplayer ever again, which is funny because there's a multiplayer mod for Metaphor being worked on
how many children would Toki have popped out if Nanashi agreed to let her?
NEXT SMT FUCKING WHEN?
>>547916521tree fiddy
>>547917259Atlus needs to contract more Indian AI generation specialists before they can begin work
new SMT but they add Persona characters into it
would it be appropriate for the DDS remasters to be handled by pajeets
AI = Actually Indians
>>547914772They fixed that.
SMT, but every time you take a step you can become level drained by a succubus
>>547927363where does she drain the levels from
https://youtu.be/lN-XzQ6OuKs?si=xJ5jI-t7r76yU2Fo>>547927363Mazurkah kinda
>>547930576penis
>>547939206namaste most honorable saar
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/sega-is-aware-its-past-definitive-version-releases-could-be-deterring-players-from-buying-games-at-launch/Metaphor sales evidently fell short of expectations. They were expecting the game to sell on the same level as Persona but it didn't.They are blaming definitive version releases as the cause. People are hesitant to buy games at launch from Atlus because it's typical for them to release a definitive edition 2 years later. Sega is concerned about it.
>>547943130>They were expecting the game to sell on the same level as Personawhy
>>547943130Maybe they should stop doing it then. Another reason is because they discount their games pretty early after release compared to a lot of games.
>>547943386Because it sold 1 million in 3 days but the sales sharply dropped from there.
>>547943130>so insecure about Metaphor's existence that he posted this bullshit article in every general
>>547944134Fuck off Atlus West shill
>>547944134That would be the schizo copying me. I just saw this article posted on my usual scroll through megaten twitter.
>>547944134The document the article is citing doesn't even have anything to do with Metaphor, except for the part where the article writer pointed to an x post and a steam community page so he couldn't get sued for liable by insinuating it was
>>547943130>article is clickbait>post summarizing the article is a pure lie that doesn't even represent the clickbait
>>547944797>The document the article is citing doesn't even have anything to do with Metaphor>Sega Sammy Holdings recently published a summary of a shareholders’ Q&A session that took place during the company’s second quarter financial briefing for the fiscal year ending March 2026. As reported by GameBiz, the Q&A session covered a range of topics, including a sudden drop in sales of catalogue titles (games released during past fiscal years) compared to the previous year, and revenue fluctuations largely impacted by some of Sega’s new full-price and free-to-play titles. Namely, it was brought up that Sega has released a number of critically acclaimed titles in the past couple of years, but despite the positive reception and high praise for their quality, sales performance fell short of expectations.Metaphor is included in those fiscal year sales. What are you talking about?
SAAR IT'S MISINFORMATION SAAR
>>547943130>They are blaming definitive version releases as the cause. People are hesitant to buy games at launch from Atlus because it's typical for them to release a definitive edition 2 years later. Sega is concerned about it.While I did become wary of segatlus for that reason, I just didn't care about metaphor.
>>547945067Because if you actually looked at the source instead of the intentionally vague summary of it (which you did, but you are a lying bastard), you would know that FY2026 sales are what didn't meet expectations. They just had a big budget sonic racing game come out that flopped hard and they are avoiding saying that it was the title that performed poorly specifically. Past years with examples of P3R and LAD8 were given when discussing repeat sales of games that were down overall from the year before.
I liked Metaphor :^)
Young manMagatsuhi is stored in the balls
Metaphor is wokeslop
>>547943471No, because the actual numbers show their recent "discounts to boost long term sales" strategy has minimal if any impact on the launch sales >Yakuza 8 had the best launch sales in RGG history>P3 Reload had the best launch sales in Atlus history>8 months later Metaphor had even better launch sales than that All major titles that came out after they started doing this. Sega is trying to figure out why the actual long term sales are starting to slide while P5R has basically been holding steady since the PC port game out. But they will get it wrong because they don't know what the zeitgeist is
>>547946384>their comment about definitive editions being one of the causes applies to the sonic racing game actually
>>547949402I want to see Deity Emperor/Zurvan in 3D
fuark
>>547949402They were considering definitive editions being a reason why repeat sales were down from past years. Not that the examples they gave were games that didn't meet sales expectations. still a lying bastard
>>547949272>because the actual numbers show their recent "discounts to boost long term sales" strategy has minimal if any impact on the launch salesThat is generally true for most games, hype and early reviews from actual players are bigger factors for launch sales.>spoilerkek, also true
SMT peaked at SJ and SH2
>>547943130If you think about that headline for like 2 seconds it doesn't make any sense but you don't even have to click on it to know that the rest of this post is total bs Mainline will never get out of Persona/Metaphor's shadow ever because no one sees it as a enough of a threat to whatever mental illness they have to write something this brazenly false about it
>>547951287True and based
>>547951287This
>>547951287>SH2Based>SJCringe
>>547951287So true king...
>thread gets the most activity in days because some third worlder chimped out over metaphor not flopping like he desperately wanted it to
>>547945067Metakino is 2025 in jew speak not 2026
>>547943386Didn't it sell much better than the persona 3 remake in half a year?
>>547953281>>547953467In case you haven't figured it out yet this was not a genuine discussion
>Page 10 after only 40 minutesThis board fucking sucks, holy shit
>>547958469The lord is trying to kill this general
>>547958469it's the most active board on the site by a wide margin
>>547943130Your average nu-SMT fag will see this and think that mainline SMT deserves to be given a AAAA budget and have open world slop gameplay because they're mentally stuck in 2009 with their "SMT vs Persona" mindset
Artemis thigh chokehold is done, next up Chiaki mudmen hate crime, and then Megami tensai 1 Loki.
>>547958876They will see it and walk away upset because someone probably called them retarded for believing some clickbait from a small outlet
>>547959105Based, thanks anon!
>>547958469we need to invite the Persona gacha people here to compete
>>547953058I made the original post and I only made one reply after it. I've been gone all day.
Repel Page 10
Did smt5 V actually fix the incredibly fucked level scaling system?
>>547980050Yeah but it also made the game piss easy unfortunately
>>547945067multiple people already correctly called you a retard but I will also call you a retard to keep us off page 10 retard
>>547980050Yes, though it reintroduces it for Godborn.
Why is there someone so anal about metaphor sales in here all of a sudden?
>>547989638Probably because people are tired of the "SMT is the only good thing and everything else is dogshit because I won't interact with it in good faith" shit that's been happening here for years
It's funny that this concerntrolling backfired hard on some shitposter today and a couple hours later Nam puts out a new big video for the first time in awhile that's 1000% Metaphor glaze and how it's his favorite Atlus game of all time
>>547995391Metaphor technically is the best game Atlus has ever put out. You can have personal preference for other titles but as a full package Metaphor is their best work so far.
>>547995391he's gonna piss off the p3 sycophants with that video lmao
What would VV be like if they didn't run out of time after the 3rd area?
>>547997370Ronde*
>>547999498the game was always destined to have shit dungeons desu IV and F had garbage dungeons too, they just don't have anyone there that can make good layouts anymore which is how metaphor side dungeons for some random hunt mog anything mainline's seen in years
>>548000306They have the Etrian Odyssey team... working on Next Stage... haha...
>>548001070Genuinely hope this is the case. I do NOT want to see the EO team ever make a SMT title ever again unless it's a spin-off.
>>548001496y
>>547897676I'm about to fuck an onion.>>547917107
>>547709938While rumor mongering we meet a few new shop owners such as Tony whose schnoz may well defeat Igor's by virtue of sheer GIRTH and The Count Who Loves To Make People Want To Kill Themselves By Saying Depressing Shit. I like that even the regular shop clerks in this game are oozing with personality and even get their own portraits, which was something I also liked about Soul Hackers and Persona 1 but this has executed it the best so far.We track the Journalism club's head to the Zodiac club where Eikichi continues to be a surprisingly great character and spares us from what seemed to be an obvious boss battle by using the rumor meant to nerf him to pull off a galaxy brained move that would make a Joestar smile.After pantsing that nobody we climb up another rung in the conspiracy's ladder to track down the student council president of the rival school, who then locks us in a zombie infested bomb shelter in the school's basement. I have no compass, no map, and no fucking idea where I'm going but the good news is the EXP is quite hefty now.Really liking this game so far, my only real gripes are that getting new demons sucks massive ass compared to 1/the other games in the franchise and the combat UI is kind of clunky.
>>547992242It's perfectly fine to not interact with Metaphor when it was first advertised as something wholly new and instead has to break even with the persona audience.
>>548007152Is that Maximilian Pegasus?
>>547989638pretending it's all 1 person is a sign of weakness
>>548007479that's perfectly fine if you don't want to interact with Metaphor but don't interact with it in bad faith in order to make SMT look amazing it's fucking annoying and cringe cultish fanboy behavior
>>548010603SMT has nothing left besides cultish fanboy behavior. I've been saying this for years but the megaten community never recovered from putting itself on blast in front of normies screaming to high heaven when V got a bunch of 8/10 reviews and then the game came out and actually sucked
/smtg/ - Metaphor General
>>547989638>why did people have a strong reaction to some schizo lying out their ass
>>548008457Then /meta/ is raiding us? (I don't believe this btw)
>>548010603>but don't interact with it in bad faith in order to make SMT look amazing When did this even happen? When did you decide it happened? The article was claiming sega doesn't like rereleases, that's means VV HURT sales for other games because it created bad faith with an audience that thinks a better version will come out in 2 years. How are you this mentally ill?
>>548012086lmao that would still just be 1 guy
>using metaphor to say smt is a cult with fanboys and smt needs to die>constantly trying to insist it's not "just him"Gee I wonder who it is.
x revealing how many fake white people there are on the internet caused something to snap now the shitposter culture that festered on this site the last 2 years is falling apart
>>548012213>The article was claiming sega doesn't like rereleases, that's means VV HURT sales for other gamesThis isn't true though
>>548012512I wouldn't conflate those two things. You can make money on Xitter so Indians and the like are financially motivated to stir up shit for engagement. There is no such motivation on 4channel.org
>>548012635Sega doesn't even know if rereleases are the cause. It simply said it might be and they are going to look into it. That is fucking all. P5R and VV would be games that fit that list and there are plenty of people who bitched about wasting their money on an "incomplete" version of the game.
>>548012727>There is no such motivationlollmao
>>548012742>the causethe cause of what anondon't think this is gonna slip by me
>>548012793Elaborate?
>>548012919Drop in sales.
TALK ABOUT SHIN MEGAMI TENSEITALK ABOUT SHIN MEGAMI TENSEITALK ABOUT SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI
>>548012984In sales of what anon
>>548012995Metaphor is better than Shin Megami Tensei
Reminder that schizos are agents of Chaos
>>548013020FY2026 sales
>>548013958long term sales of games that had been out for at least 2 years*
>>548012742m8 you're literally running defense for a post that was a complete lie and saying that it's retarded for anyone to get mad about it. why would anyone give a fuck if you say you have a reasonable negative take on this game or notI'm kind of surprised at the level of reaction that it got but this general is dead as fuck now so
>>548014802Is the gamebiz article fake?
>>548015141the post had barely anything to do with what the actual non-bait article said you are coping (and seething)
>>548015396So you're sperging out because Japanese users on twitter said the rerelease formula likely applies to Atlus? That's what this is all about? You're made that they're mad?
>>548015889let's go ahead and read what is now obvious (You) wrote>>547943130>Metaphor sales evidently fell short of expectations.lie>They were expecting the game to sell on the same level as Persona but it didn't.lie>They are blaming definitive version releases as the cause. lie>People are hesitant to buy games at launch from Atlus because it's typical for them to release a definitive edition 2 years later. misrepresented truth >Sega is concerned about it.lie The linked article is also full of horseshit not in the real report but that's besides the pointIf you are taking offense with people being mad at this you definitely do want to interact with the game. because you want it to be a failuretl;dr you are kind of full of shit
>>548016691Well you're wrong because I didn't make that post. I'm posting because the schizo is saying smt fanboys are ruining the series over a stupid article and that the article is completely false for some reason. The article quoted the gamebiz directly and then said what Japanese users theorize rerelease applies to. And they're likely right because Atlus is the one that loves rereleases and there definitely is rerelease fatigue.
>>548016960>The article quoted the gamebiz directlythey paraphrased it to make it look like it supported their bullshit claim that launch sales are down when they're the best each of their developers that actually do rereleases mainly Atlus and RGG have ever had you are taking offense because you can't read
Back in my day shitposters wouldn't cower behind a news article that links a steam community thread as a source. They would just post an article that says 100% the exact opposite of what they are and would argue for hours that it didn't. And it would work because they could actually speak English and exploit the other guy's desire to be right.
Is SMT VV deluxe worth 28$? There is discount on steam...
>>548017232>On the other hand, in recent years, new full-length games have tended to have sales that fall short of expectations, despite being highly praised for their quality. The company believes that this is due to genre competition and pricing at the time of release, as well as users' concerns that a "complete version" will be released after some time has passed, which may be causing them to hold off on purchasing.This is directly from the gamebiz article.
>>548007152>I like that even the regular shop clerks in this game are oozing with personality and even get their own portraitsI always liked that as well. Persona 2 is very soulful.>Really liking this game so far, my only real gripes are that getting new demons sucks massive ass compared to 1/the other games in the franchiseGet ready to grind for cards if you want to summon worthwhile shit.
>>548017802I guess so if you mean they'll pay you $28, otherwise hell naw it's garbo
>>548017864And then you actually read the entire thing instead of just the one part you cherrypicked because you know you lost this argument >Furthermore, the company cited differences in the lineup as a factor in the struggling repeat sales for the fiscal year ending March 2025, down 18.5% year-on-year to 18 billion yen, a stark reversal from the strong performance of the previous year. In the previous fiscal year, titles such as "Persona 3 Reload," "Yakuza 8," and "Unicorn Overlord" were released in the latter half of the second half, and continued to sell well in the following fiscal year while maintaining a high price range. However, this fiscal year saw a lack of major titles that continued this positive trend, which is why repeat sales overall are weak.
>>548017802I'm no big on the deluxe version because a lot of it is bloat dlc you don't need. If it's cheaper just to get Dagda and Sakuya on their own I'd do that.
>>548018178>multiple factors invalidates a claim>you're cherry pickingWhy do you think this invalidates anything? It's not cherry picking, what you posted is irrelevant. Of course there are multiple factors. There always are and I never said otherwise.
>>548018412They explicitly name non-definitive releases as games that sold well and continued to sell well, retard. And Metaphor performed better than all 3 of them while specifically greatly exceeded the expectations set for it on PC so you can group it in implicitly
>>548017864>>548018178These two things actually don't contradict each other when you consider the games that aren't the major Persona, Metaphor or Yakuza releases. The new sonic spinoff game was a flopSH2 was a flopRaidou remastered was a flop V vanilla was a flop P5T was a flopP3R on switch 2 is like the worst selling Atlus game in over a decade Etrian remastered was a flopTrying to wedge this into a narrative that Metaphor didn't meet expectations or do well in general is absolutely retarded though
>>548019343>These two things actually don't contradict each other when you consider the games that don't get rereleases with one exception also V might've crashed and burned but it was still the best selling SMT game of all time
>>548017802Yes.
>>548018975Every game they listed would never have a definitive edition later on or at the very least within 2 years which is what creates the apprehension. P3R instead added dlc.
>>548034786>Every game they listed would never have a definitive edition later onthat doesn't make the least bit of sense because not only did no one know that P3R would have an expansion at launch but vanillaware games have all gotten rereleases besides 13 sentinels and again, yakuza does this shit all the time too. Yakuza 7 got a rerelease on newer hardware with limited transfer capabilities even
>>548035728Yakuza 0 just got that director's cut that no one liked becuase it retconned even more character deaths too. Their Kiwami games are way worse than Atlus rereleases IMO because with the exception of P4G every Atlus rerelease still actually feels like you're playing the original game. The one time you might want something that just totally upends the style sound design and atmosphere of a Yakuza game is ironically in Yakuza 3 because apart from the actors that played specific characters that game was dogshit.
>>548034786People are still saying they won't buy P3 Reload until a definitive version comes out
/smtg/ - Metaphor and Yakuza General
>>548035728>besides 13 sentinels the last game they madeYou answered your question.>Yakuza 7Not comparable at all. It was released for PS5 a year later with some costumes. No one would ever feel like this version was definitive over what they originally bought and give them buyer's remorse.
>>548036354?????? 13 sentinels not getting one doesn't change how the entire rest of their library got an update down the line Same thing with yakuza, if the argument is there being an abundance of rereleases is hurting launch sales of these games that would just be happening regardless of the contextWhich is why it's a flimsy as fuck argument, because that isn't happening
>>548036903>doesn't change how the entire rest of their library got an update down the line Yes it fucking does. Because no one bought unicorn overlord thinking it would be replaced by a better version in 2 years.
>>548019343This discussion didn't need to go past this post. Please for fuck's sake stop trying to drag it on anymore
>>548037294Stop replying to yourself, no one cares.
>aggression because he lost the argument
>>548037287You're basically just saying "this is an exception because I say so"
>>548037574There is a reason they are exceptions.
>>548037725Well you sure as fuck haven't been able to present one
>wake up>retard is still butthurt about article and assumes everyone talking about it is le schizoNice, at least the thread didn't die overnight
>>548038212concession accepted
>>548039824I have not engaged in this pointless autism war at all
>>548040056of course
>>548036283/smtg/ - Shit Nobody Cares About General
>>548040162Sorry the evil schizos mind broke you that hard little bro
>>548040173that's what it was before it died desu
>>548040256no easier way to get out of an untenable position than to pretend you were never in it on the internet
>>548040410If I screencapped the entirety of the argument to prove I wasn't a part of it, you would accuse me of editing out (You)s. Not sure what I can really do to help you see the truth
>>548040562have you considered not lying
>>548040662Which specific poster do you think I am?
>>548040808I don't really give a shit which one you arewho cares what the difference between 1 or 3 different angry retards is
>>548040920I scrolled through the argument and the angry retard(s) to me looked like the ones who can't accept that maybe rereleases do affect sales (they certainly affect PR since people talk about it) but eh
>>548041216fishing for the last word makes you look even worse
>>548037765I explained myself already but I guess I'll do it again. The games they listed are exceptions which is why they listed them to begin with. Very few people avoided those games under the worry a rerelease with better content would replace them and there are valid reasons why. People looked at Metaphor and remembered P5R and SMTVV and voiced enough apprehension that Sega took notice. People did not look at Unicorn Overlord and think it would be replaced in 2 years, neither did they look at P3R and think that (and those who did think it were few). That is because P3R is based on P3, the game is complete and 13 Sentinels never had a quick turn around rerelease. Yakuza 7 was also a complete game. People could tell P5 and SMTV did not feel finished at release and then worried Metaphor would do the exact same thing. If this is still arbitrary to you then I don't know what to tell you. You're just ass hurt.
>>548041302Your projection is impressive, ngl
>>548041460Setting aside how this is now a completely different argument and you're pretending it's not because you're butthurt, retards on the internet seething over its success were the only people that ever said this about P5. Yakuza is loaded with complete games that got rereleases, every vanillaware game with a rerelease has also been a complete package. V is the only one where this was the case, and again, it was still the best selling game in franchise history, so in that case you're describing something that didn't even happen. If people are worried about rereleases they are not going to be following spiraling logic like this. You still aren't making any sense because all your examples are terrible.
>>548042056You're the one who is now bringing up sales for some reason. Sega is aware of buyer's remorse and commented on it. Nothing they said after that refutes it. It sounds more like you're furious they even brought up the notion at all. If that's the case bring it up with Sega and call them fools for believing liars on the internet.
>>548042660>Sega is aware of buyer's remorseWhat kind of cope is this? For how aware people were of how unfinished V was it certainly had no impact on its launch sales. This entire argument was about launch sales actually, but it's sounding like you've run out of room to back into
capcom should've bought atlus
nintendo should've boughted atlus
microsoft should've bought atlus just so they'd make NINE-2
>>548042858>cope Where? You're the one having a meltdown over the article because Sega said "sales that fall short of expectations" and don't want it to apply to any Atlus games or want anyone to even theorize it based on what they said about rereleases. That's some next level autism.
>Sega IPs have a history of doing rereleases and a reputation for it >Sega wants to look into if that has anything to do with why a bunch of their games haven't done well It's a perfectly straight line they're thinking in, jesus christ. Some games obviously did like picrel, but P3R didn't flop, Yakuza didn't flop, UO didn't flop, Metaphor didn't flop. I get there's some extreme mental illness around saying the last one out loud here but this level of mental gymnastics is /pg/ tier retardation
>>548043580You're done m8. An hour from now when you've said enough bullshit we will actually have been arguing about why Persona 5 was a flop because everyone expected the rerelease the entire time.
>>548043726>>Sega IPs have a history of doing rereleases and a reputation for itAtlusLiterally only Atlus does this shit, not Sega itself.RGG has been doing kiwami releases sure, but they're basically ports of PS2 games nobody fucking played
>>548043932PS2, PS3, PS4, complete editions on PC or nextgen actually
>>548043726Get used to it because this place is done for
>>548044262two more weeks
>>548044374until at best persona gets news?
>literally a quarter of this thread is some schizo that wants metaphor to flop vs. some other schizo that doesn't want rereleases vs. some other schizo that mostly cares about pissing the other two off by calling them retardedwe need to go back
>>548044812the sons of man have lost their shepherd and their way
>>548044812No going backWe're gonna carry that weight
>>548044812>some other schizo that doesn't want rereleasesschizoing aside, there's nothing wrong with not wanting rereleases, atlus needs to get on with the times that NOBODY wants to buy the same game twice. It only worked on the PS2 and PS3 era, not anymore.
>Metaphor is bad>Rereleases are bad>You are badYeah that's very simple
>>548044973every gamewith a re-releasehas sold well the first time too well except SJ lmao
>>548045058Existence is bad
>>548045254fact
>>548043913>he's making predictions into the future nowOk
New Devil Survivor when?
If SEGA truly enforces this no definitive edition thing, then SMT VI gonna have an interesting development cycle.
>>548046414What is that? A fangame?
>>54804949510 years until it releases
>>548052945yeah
Did the mentally ill dogfucker ever make his Raidou OC fangame
>>548054601>attention whore>ever make anything
What are you thankful for, /smtg/?
>>548063663I'm thankful for being a Lawchad.
I am interested in Yoko but do I need to play canon of creation slop first for le legit story experience? What is the most optimal run (route+ending) for VV?
>>548066289Play CoV, whatever ending you want, then never play the game again. This is the optimal way to consume VV.
>>548063663Being able to enjoy just about every Fatlus game instead of being a constant ball of misery and hatred.
>>548067173You can hate on slop and be happy, it ain't mutual
I don't hate /smtg/ but I hate what it's become. Honestly I think if we all just took a break and left for a period of time, it'd help purge the nonsense. You'd all have to promise to return though :(
>>548067634I sometimes leave the thread for long periods of time but I always come back
>>548067634We need more shitposting
Chiaki mudmen hate crime done, next up megami tensai 1 Loki.
>>548071872thank you based drawfag
English or Japanese voice for VV?
>>548077702It unironically has one of the worst dubs, I think I'd only rate DeSu1 OC lower. Meanwhile the Jap voices are god tier so go with those
>>548078267Thanks. I thought the voice were pretty close from the comparison video but guess something shit happened down the line and people said MC's dubbed voice suck.
>>548078378The MC is voiced by a tranny who sounds weak and pathetic compared to the JP version. The other problem is a lot of the cast is voiced by literal whos who vary from average to downright bad (Tao).
>>548078634the dub announcement for V is still some of the most cringe shit I've ever seen in my life
Phys or Mag for VV?
>>548084575Flip a coin. They are both viable with pros and cons.
>>548084575Phys is better earlier while Mag is arguably best for endgame. There's items in the game that let you reallocate your stats so you switch
>>548085313can switch*
>>548084969>>548085313Yeah thanks I decide to go phys because MC has a laser blade, gotta have it do something.
lmao, lmao
>>548087423These are the high quality posts my body craves
Why doesn't SMT get more soulful crossovers like this?
any smt shmups?
>>548093154Yes! https://youtu.be/0zzj4fhYTTM?si=4rSS2QN11Z5DT8HH
>>548093345can u catbox a save file where thats unlocked pls
>>548093727I do not remember if I played JP version but if that's ok, yes I can tomorrow.
>>548093727https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps2/924460-shin-megami-tensei-digital-devil-saga-2/savesBetter yet, here are a bunch of saves. Picrel should work.
Happy Thanksgiving smtg
>>548102386Gay.
I'm thankful for the end of /smtg/
>>547999510Ronde sales evidently fell short of expectations. They were expecting the game to sell on the same level as Megami Ibunroku Persona but it didn't.They are blaming Soul Hacker's release date as the cause. People are hesitant to buy games with terrible demos from Atlus because they're going to release a better one on the same console a month later. Sega is concerned about it.
/smtg/ - Ronde General
>>548128408ronde anon is the only good poster left
SMT x Fear & Hunger
SMT x The Sopranos
How much longer until atlus announces the next smt thing?
Anyone ever checked out those Megami Tensei III concept docs? I can't remember where they're from, maybe some kind of SMT 1 artbook or something.I remember it had a concept story where the MT II MC and TTW did the law ending as canon and end up as servants of YHVH you have to fight against. The MT III MC was also supposed to be the Dark Hero's kid or something, it sounded pretty cool. Anyone know where it's from?
I miss SMT4 smirk :(
We are so over bros
>>548155081TOOT TOOT
>>548144586First I'm hearing about it.
What if the 3 chief gods of Japanese mythology were actually robots that controlled the Japanese government?
>>548163007Atlus would find a way to make it lame and gay
>>548159535I remember it was included with vesk's archive back in the day, but I can't find them on my download. I know I read about it for sure, it was discussed here some months ago.It's pretty interesting how megaten would've been if they didn't redo MT2 with SMT1 and just made a MT3.
>>548163662I enjoyed the premise of MT2 more than SMT1 actually.
>>548144586That was from vesk’s document and she briefly discussed it before. Both Hideto and Rosanna created a proto millennium kingdom and the mt3 protag was indeed supposed to be the dark hero’s kid (maybe from his girlfriend and is the reason why she was waiting for him to come back?) though since she and the doc got nuked, we don’t have full details. It’s a really fun idea that sadly got scrapped due to pivoting to SMT 1, since post-post apocalyptic games are very good setting and story wise. Would’ve been interesting to see MT3 Protag’s story and get the Solomon ring from his dad’s ghost or something, but alas, we got modern SMT from it
>>548163231Nah I'd have faith.
Why didn't V explain what Hijiri did wrong?
>>548176552Because SMTII showed you him killing YHVH
>>548176552he romanced a gay robot
Hijiri is actually V kun
>>548176878>>548177039Vkun is Hijiri!?
>>548177227The subtext checks out
>>548177336It really does make sense.
Am i crazy or are The White never even mentioned in IVA?
>>548177868I don't think they were.
So I started playing SMT5 Vengeance last week (I'm this guy >>547542089), and I just got to the part where I beat Ishtar and enter the Demon King's castle.. Took a break, went on YouTube and got this video in my recommendations.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/99XGaWn9Am8My mind is blown.Did the original SMT5 really not release with the option to save anywhere? If so, where was saving permitted? At Leyline Founts? If so, that sounds so frustrating. Imagine wiping to a boss like the one I just beat in my spoiler above and forcing the player to reload their save, go through a long-ass trek from the Leyline Fount to the boss, and mash through dialogue text boxes before actually getting to refight the boss.Also, did the original SMT5 really not have Magatsu Rails? I literally cannot imagine how much tedious backtracking there would be if you had to manually run around without these Magatsu Rails providing very well-placed and convenient shortcuts. The Ginza area I just finished in particular would be pure misery without these traversal options to help you for the numerous times you fell and needed to get back to the top area again.Also, how the fuck did the original SMT5 not have a sped-up autobattle option? Are the devs stuck in like 1990 or something? Fucking Earthbound on the SNES had autobattle.
>>548172157Yeah it really makes you think. A lot of classic megaten are just re-dos of MT2's story or revolve around an "alternate timeline". (if... -> devsum -> persona) In a way it sounds like an early version of SMT II cause of the proto-Millenium Kingdom. Though it adds in an interesting dynamic because your old protagonists are antagonists now. It makes you wonder what they would've said their reasoning was for going law.MT II doesn't elaborate on the story that much, but what we already know about the story makes it odd that the MC and TTW would go law. I mean you literally abandon the Dark Hero to join TTW and go against your original goal to help Pazuzu. Is it some case of unintentionally fulfilling YHVH's plans even though you're trying to oppose him? It would explain why we kill all the tyrants of Makai even in the Chaos route.
>>548185375I never lost to Ishtar so I don't know.
Megami tensai 1 Loki is done.
>>548188473Nice
>>548185375You'll struggle with older SMT titles because they lack a lot of QoL.
QoL is for the weak
>>548177868They aren't.They have no involvement or role to play in IVA.Same reason why you don't hear about Infernal or Blasted Tokyo.Those were things Flynn experienced in his journey and have nothing to do with Nanashi's.
>>547897628What the fuck is this?
Haven't been here in a while, how're you doing /smtg/?>>548188473This rules.
>>548200884thread's been pretty dead as of late
>>548201268A shame, but I can weirdly sorta understand, not only have I been away from the general, I also haven't played one of the games in a while, suppose it's a good time to change that.
Demon idea, really big wolf and I mean REALLY big.
>>548210057Fenrir then?
>>548210391Bigger.
>>548200884It's been slow but the schizo hasn't left so the general has been in a choke hold between him making shitposts, constantly saying the general is dead and there being no news at all.
Demikids mentioned in 2025 and no one said anything.
>>548212893>he doesn't realize there are multiple schizos
>>548218081What the hell is this? A crossover or something?
>>548221869Yes and this is apparently how Atlus is celebrating Demikids 25th anniversary, lol.
>>548187301Would have loved to know why they went law after providing a headstart for humanity again, and the biggest reason why the mt3 protag was gunning for them besides the ‘kill my father’ thing. >redos of mt2’s story Initial set up, setting and plot of the game is too good to not utilize and rehash. 2 for the obvious, 1 that puts you through a post apocalypse with your friends in the future, etc. If anything I wish atlus did some more stuff with it instead of going pure nocturne/world is actually just an egg ready to be hatched kinda deal.
I don't really like IV all that much.
>>548226442Sensible people think this.
>>548226442The minority that doesn't like any of the MegaTen game think this.
>>548218081I don't have any interest in DemiKids desu.I know it exists and it's basically "MegaTen for kids" or "MegaTen for Pokémon fans" I guess(?), but that's it.
>>548185375saving anywhere is casualized cringe desu
>>548226442I always tell people to skip playing IV and just listen to the OST :)
>>548226442Bad taste.
Remember when this place was excited for SH2 at first because of the leaked image of jack frost riding that pig thing?
>>548226442I kinda like it even if I think it's mediocre in a lot of ways
>>548226442IV genuinely does not get enough hate. It was the first truly bad SMT game and set the series trajectory towards the sad state it's in today.
>>548248104I remember people being grateful to finally move past SMT V but then once they saw that SH2 was it's own thing, they began doompost and tons of disingenuous posting in hopes of causing a Atlus version of the Tortanic
>>548251417>Dogshit opinion with bad syntax and grammarGee I wonder who this could be!
>>548251417We will never move on from SMTV and neither will Atlus.
>>548208817You feel sleepy...I always liked how MT2 leaned more fantasy than sci-fi desu. It had a unique feel. The lack of dialogue was a limitation of being an NES game but it let you fill in the blanks with your imagination, loved that.>>548224680I guess, but when you look at the series overall, it gets a little old. Sometimes it's more than just a rehash, like Giten. That one is a full retelling of the Tokyo section, with Yuuka's body parts standing in for the pillars you collect. Though re-doing nocturne with SMT V was definitely not the play.Maybe re-doing SMT II could've been a better option? We got a little bit of that with SMT IV's Mikado section and a law-based society, but it was medieval, not cyberpunk.Where's that art from btw? Never saw that in TTW-anon's art comm archive.
guys, /eog/ is making fun of us again...
>>548252116We already moved past SMT V though???? Atlus hasn't mentioned the game for months and there's still no any updates about that supposed art book.It's over bro
https://youtu.be/kbR4LrQQpy4?si=zU5-PST6pgvliERC It's up.>>548187301Speaking of if... and re-dos, if... is a re-do of Megami Tensei I.>if... has no overworld like mt>Minotaur is a gatekeeper below a tower city, Apaosha is a gatekeeper below a tower city>Medusa petrified a city, Bushyasta put a city to sleep>MT heroine is Yumiko, if... heroines are YUMI and ReiKO>Hazama is inspired by Nakajima>Dungeon design similarities: Towers, Sea of Flames - World of Wrath, Mazurkah - 2nd Nomos, Infini - Nomos of HeavenThere are more I'm forgetting.
>>548218081>medabots is still hanging onhoping for an unlikely revival like digimon just got one day
>>548263796>Anon, it's been a year so that means it's over...> with how long it takes for Atlus to get anything doneLol
>>548273002Two more moon cycles until the art book dropsHold the line
I still remember how people expected more free updates of VV after they dropped Marici.AHAHAHAHA!
>>548275585Anon, they're working super hard on the massive DLC update that will come with the Switch 2 version! They've been working so hard that they don't even have time to talk about it!
>>548275585I still don't really get what the point was maybe they were planning something bigger and didn't get approval from finance to do it because Vengeance didn't crack a million sales?P3R almost didn't get to proceed with the expansion pack they already started working on until it cleared a million week 1.
>>548275585Not unreasonable. It's clear they decided to just make dlc instead.
Does SMTV hentai have spoilers?
>>548279558Any image where the Nahobino is having gay sex is a spoiler.
>>548279761Fucking spoiler tag that, retard
SEGA wants to put an end to definitive editions, so that means SMTVV switch 2 edition is dead in the water.
>>548281294So.... dlc then.
The wiki says apparently Maya has a burn scar on the right side of her chest, there is no citation for this, are they just fucking making shit up?
>>548283521I definitely recall there being some dialogue about her burn but I don't remember which part of the body
>>548283747Seriously? Is it ever brought up in any of the main cutscenes, or is it one the shop flavor texts you can miss by not speaking to her at a very specific point? I swear I don't remember this.
>>548284112it's been ages since I played it so I don't remember but I do remember that in a flashback Sudou burns down a shrine while Maya is in it so I assume that's when she got the burn
>>548284704Oh, that I remember, I'm just curious if the fact she has a scar specifically in her right chest is ever brought up in-game or if the wiki is just wikying again.
