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>>547818053

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
Oct 23 Patch 4.1.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBW4NumlYHo
Nov 06 Dev Team Interview 1 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/571520933631623429
Dec 02 Python Commandos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPp9ZCgrP8

>LATEST PATCHES
Oct 23 1.004.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/538868565209514366
Nov 04 1.004.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/687488077158942133
Nov 18 1.004.102 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/600795216679535663
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>No heavy Acclimated
>No heavy Democracy Protects
>No heavy Electrical Conduit
>No heavy Feet First
>No heavy Integrated Explosives
>No heavy Reduced Signature
>No heavy Scout
>No heavy Unflinching
>No medium Siege-Ready
>No light Democracy Protects
>No light Feet First
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>IS THAT.... *SNIFF SNIFF*
>A NEW WARBOND???
>BROS
>WE'RE SO BACK
>GAME IS SAVED
>SHAMS FUCK MY WIFE PLEASE
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Say thank you papa Alexus for making another godtier warbond.
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So have the devs completely given up on making boosters now?
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>>547870979
HMMMMMMMM SLOP
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ADD NADE LAUNCHER AND SPEAR ROCKET FRV VARIANTS
ADD SPACE MISSIONS
ADD SKYBRIDGES AND TOWERS TO MEGACITIES
ADD FULL ILLUMINATE ROSTER AND MORE UNITS
ADD GAS GIANT PLANETS
ADD INDUSTRIAL SHIP BUILDING YARDS TILESET
ADD INDUSTRIAL AUTOMATON FACTORIES TILESET
ADD EVERGREEN FORESTS TILESET
ADD SUBURBAN TILESET
ADD APC
ADD TANK
ADD BIKE
ADD ARMOR PAINT
ADD MISSING STRATAGEMS
ADD STRATAGEM CUSTOMIZATION
ADD STRATAGEM LOADOUTS
ADD 12 PLAYER MISSIONS
BUFF ASSAULT RIFLES (FOR REAL)
BUFF SMGS (FOR REAL)
BUFF SHOTGUNS
BUFF SOLO SILO (FOR REAL)
BUFF FLAMERS AND FIRE DAMAGE
BUFF HMG
FIX DILIGENCE/AMR SCOPE BUG
DELETE DURABLE DAMAGE
REWORK ARMOR PEN
DELETE GAMEGUARD
DELETE DUPLICATE ASSETS
REWORK JOEL
DELETE ALEXUS
DELETE SCAMS-YOUR-MONEY
DELETE INDIA
DELETE TRANNIES
MAKE THE GAME 40 GIGS OR LESS.
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>>547871127
>>547861114
Well? Which is it, mother fucker?
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Battletech IP collab when AH?
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>>547871369
What guns would they bring to the table?
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>>547871156
The last booster they added was fucking stun pods so yeah I think we're done with boosters
Shit system, no one ever picks anything but the main 4 and one of them is legitimately worthless in most cases but STILL somehow better than the others
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>>547871270
The Arc slapper of BTs Alexvs hath spoken, and so it is truth
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>>547871270
which one is said by a community manager/QA(lol) member and which one is said by an actual developer?
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>>547871603
>actual developer
They have those? In Sweden, I mean?
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>>547871420
A Portable Particle Cannon!
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>>547871703
>another quasar cannon
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>>547871270
One handed
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gonna need to open a thread gift shop for all these fucking tourists
go on flood the thread with sc farming lobbies and spend more time doing that than actually playing the game once the warbond drops like every other time
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Stalwart
>dakka
>light pen
>reload while moving
HMG
>BIG DAKKA
>heavy pen
>long stationary reload
Maxigun
>lotta dakka
>medium pen
>takes up backpack slot
>no reload unless empty
>semi-disposable
>movement penalty(?)
>overheat mechanic(?)
I think the maxigun is a sidegrade.
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>>547871772
It's cool tho
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547870861
Posted it again award
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>>547872042
>sidegrade
You say that as if it's a bad thing.
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>>547871983
>they are not SUCKING DEV COCKS ????
>must be stupid TOURISTS!!!!!
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>>547870979
>>547871182
>Cries about no content
>Cries about content
Whiny manchild
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>>547870979
>>547871182
Imagine being poor and gay at the same time.
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>>547872250
Actually, I've been crying about how poorly the game runs now compared to before.
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>>547872250
>>547872303
samefag but with different pc and ip btw
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I love my Justice! I love Sweden! I love anons!
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>>547872385
>YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE THE SAME OPINION
There you go being poor and gay again.
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holy CANNOLI there's so much PISS
we need ONE MORE
we are 3/4 that's three outta four that's 4 with 3 removed. one slot open for a TRUE PISSER to PISS on BOTS!
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>>547872239
Posting wojaks definitely makes you a tourist. From sharty to make matters worse.
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>>547872586
nice inspect dawg
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>"You wont get ragdolled as much but to keep the grunt fantasy alive, you take more damage from the thing that wouldve ragdolled you to compensate :)"
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>>547872594
full
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>>547872638
>Posting wojaks makes u a mega tourist lol.From the sharty too?? cringe af newfag detected frfr ong no cap on a stack
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>>547872865
I look like this and say that.
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>>547872865
wow you certainly showed him what for
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>>547872720
I would wear that
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accidentally posted in the old thread
twitter jeets are now scraping /hdg/ for engagement
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>>547872594
I would join but I don't have FOMO pissdiver armor
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>>547872638
>lil zoomie thinks wojaks aren't site culture
Every day I am reminded Helldivers general attracted tons of newfags who think they belong instantly. Lurk more.
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>>547872720
>instead of ragdolling you it just kills you
Man I believe it
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I hate Python Commandos.
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>>547872638
you got cooked nigga
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>>547873245
forgot the picture. i'm on a roll today!
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>wear ragdoll-resist armor
>instead of ragdolling you just fall limp on your ass like picrel
>nearby grenades slowly roll uphill towards you
>explosions juggle you in the air
>ragdoll down a slight slope into shrapnel plant and die
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>>547873427
What do YOU like?
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>>547873513
i read slop instead of slope... it's over.... my brain is definitely rotten because of /hdg/ posts.....
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>>547873552
You know what I don't hate? I don't hate capes.
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>>547873834
Good man.
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>>547873764
speaking of slop, I think it's really funny that both /hdg/ threads are dogshit and infested with discord trannies
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>>547873907
TRVTH NVKE
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is this guy trying to fucking groom me?
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>>547871469
They literally need to bake in vitality + stamina booster then rework all the shitty ones.
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>>547874316
No, I am not. Wanna join my discord ?
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>>547874316
That's what you get for being a parasocial eceleb obsessed retard
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>game hardlocked pc AGAIN
>I
I
>HATE
HATE
>SWEDEN
SWEDEN
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>>547874443
People use stamina booster?
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>>547874447
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>>547874443
People use vitality booster?
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>>547872638
>Posting wojaks definitely makes you a tourist. From sharty to make matters worse.
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>>547872720
The impact damage is far too inconsistent to make sense.
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>>547873513
That would make War Striders an even worse nightmare.
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>>547871420
Uhhhhhhh laser weapons and space M16s. The lasers can be in the invisible part of the light spectrum. Also magnetic (gauss) weapons that are just going to be normal projectile weapons with a different name. And needlers which overlap with the Coyote.

A warbond with BT items should best try not to have more than a single weapon, or none at all, it will be all about the support callins instead. A battle armor with jump jets would provide a niche not currently covered especially in hive world tunnels, while a larger mech that is capable of assaulting bots in the open fields is not something we have yet.
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>>547872638
I remember when wojaks were just the feels guy
Not the farce that is today
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>>547876245
I'd like mechs to have a functional self-destruct function since their weapons end up being way too fragile on some fronts.
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>>547872239
>thinking /hdg/ sucks dev cocks
hello tourist arent you literally here to slurp up your new slop?
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I bet you the primary will be light pen.
Into the trash it goes. When was the last time we got an actually good primary?
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>Darktide gets new content
>Everyone excited about it
>Helldivers 2 gets new content
>Everyone here is mad and crying for some reason
What cause this?
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>>547877615
>>darktide gets new content
>>everyone excited about it
lol
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>>547877492
It's literally just the Liberator with a underslung GL. However the Minigun being medpen is fucking retarded, it needs to be a HMG side grade
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>>547873279
no need for it the primary theme is just yellow weapons/stratagems anyhow
>>547872594
good games anons
thirty minutes 30m that's 30 minutes from this post I will host a bug piss lobby on whatever the hot cool bug planet we vote on is
be there or be tucked neatly into bed
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>>547877492
Fuck you, Tenderizer is my favorite primary, I just have a level up OCD need to fulfill and I maxed it out ages ago.
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>>547877615
Cause Darktide's is at least refined and won't release in a buggy mess.
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>>547877615
>>547877784
lol, lmao
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>>547877848
Ive never had half of the issues I've had in Helldivers 2 while playing darktide.
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>>547877492
ThiccF said it was light pen at Adjudicator damage (95).
>complains about primary with bug hole closing ability not being useful
The usual.
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>>547870773
why console players kill for extracting? sometimes i dont know if i have to kill everybody to extract or not it literally feels like gta online after completing a heist with randoms.
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>"Oh hey nice new toy hellchud, is that a minigun?"
>"Aaaahhh too bad it's not heavy penetration, yeahhhh.... prepare your anus"
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>>547878770
Its heckin funny, chud
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>need to wake up for work soon
>too hype
FUCK IT TIME FOR AN OP LETS GOOOOOOOOO
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>>547878770
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So when is this coming out then?
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>>547878960
Those devastators and rocket striders are so dead once I get my hands on that mini gun I swe- IS THAT A HULK AIIEEEEE SAVE ME EAT-17
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>>547878960
>*slaps you across the face with my sparkly dildo*
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>>547878960
>Impossible, he's not being infinitely ragdolled...
>Hits stimmy
>Does pushups Infront of warstrider
>Alexus somewhere gets a boner because the players finally cracked his 100 dimensional chess.
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>>547879110
It coming in REDACTED
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>>547879110
It already did
You just didn't know...
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>>547879213
>>Alexus somewhere gets a boner because the players finally cracked his 100 dimensional chess.
Its the other way around.
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>>547879110
They’re not coming out of the content drought with silenced guns and a fucking dart gun lmao. So obviously they did the minigun and wanna be pulse rifle first.
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>>547879586
100 dimensional chess cracks players that get a boner from Alexus?
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>>547879110
when they make silencers and stealth actually viable
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>>547879798
Alexus doesnt like it when we solve his bullshit maze
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>>547879628
>wanna be pulse rifle first
what?
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>>547879628
>pulse rifle
Where?
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PISS TWO
bugs this time. we're pissin'
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>>547880486
2/4
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I'm tired of piss, grandpa.
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>>547880486
3/4
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>>547881042
THATS TOO DAYUM BAD
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There are more and more retards skipping out on HSO in favor of something completely fucking useless because some fucking retard eceleb convinced them "just don't die and you won't need it lol" and then they inevitably fucking die and then the team is fighting each other for resupplies because they don't respawn with enough supplies
Fuck I hate this playerbase so goddamn much
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>>547880486
full
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>>547881542
I always take last as a booster because I just SOS drop now, and if the squad is low levels, then I take the booster to drop with a full supply. I missed out on part of the attempt at making us lose the Creek, when resupplies got limited and reinforces got cut to almost nothing.
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>>547879968
>>547880256
i think he's referencing the M41A Pulse Rifle from Aliens, it has an underbarrel GL like the new liberator
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Popli 9 with the jeet brigade and incel corp was a miracle that should not have occured.
>inb4 it was on purpose
swedes are too retarded to fake an epic win like that.
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Yeah but everyone else is going to die regardless, and these shitters die with all their stims and grenades anyway, but I don't, so it's not a problem for me. Therefore, I don't care about HSO, because it saves me 10 seconds at the start of the match grabbing a single box off the first resupply, which is unimportant to me. I'd rather take something else. If you want HSO so badly, you bring it, Anon.
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>Yeah but everyone else is going to die regardless, and these shitters die with all their stims and grenades anyway, but I don't, so it's not a problem for me. Therefore, I don't care about HSO, because it saves me 10 seconds at the start of the match grabbing a single box off the first resupply, which is unimportant to me. I'd rather take something else. If you want HSO so badly, you bring it, Anon.
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>>547882076
that's a shotgun, isn't it?
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>>547882263
I said this but I don't look like this.
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>>547882347
NTA but it can be swapped, there's been a shotgun version and a GL version.
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>>547882524
that's ok but I don't think it's the underbarrel attachment that constitutes a pulse rifle
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>>547882347
what the other guy said, you can load the tube with shotgun shells but it otherwise preforms like your standard rifle with a grenade launcher
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>>547872865
Dude, you got him xD
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>>547873907
They really do muck up everything :(
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>>547878960
> 1 EAT to the dick
That was ez
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Why didn't they just add an underbarrel grenade launcher attachment to the game instead of make liberator + gp
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>Comment
On D11 the pelican should only land for that duration of 18 seconds then immediately take off regardless of mission time.
>Question
Does gas hurt leviathans? e.g. if I plink a leviathan with a spear gun will those gas clouds hurt him? And if so is the minuscule amount worth it or is it substantial?
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Observation: Posting quality would improve if we prefaced all statements like this.

Sarcastic interjection: But, the jeets would lose all their Izzat... Would it really be worth it?
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oo bella ragazza /s
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>>547884016
>on a difficulty that will never exist arrowhead should bust my balls
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>Elcor posting hours
I hate what the fucking extranet has become these days, shit was better before the Reapers.
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>>547880486
back back to to 2/4 some anons had to scram early to replenish their bladders
on a new op as well, join join join!!!
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>>547884661
at least there's no batarians whining about shepard blowing up their shitass asteroid
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>>547885093
hehehe, yeah, true, fuck I hate batariggers so much it's unreal
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>>547883429
Too hard to implement in the current spaghetti code
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>>547884458
Only clankers talk like this
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>>547880486
2/4 on Terrek bugs
Pissing.
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They should delete the HMG from the game and make the Minigun the new HMG with AP4 and all that good stuff. Stalwart and MMG are balanced because they don't take up a backpack slot, the Minigun, naturally should do heavy pen because it's a backpack support weapon, you are giving up the ability to teleport around and jamming your ass full of stims with the resupply glitch for a ammo backpack. Arrowhead hire me
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>>547885559
Statement: The Ministry of Propaganda is attempting a new democratic form of speech. It was actually the clankers that stole it from Super Earth.

Cautionary exclamation: Your democracy officer is waiting for your attention!
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>>547880486
3/4
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>>547885643
Just lower the HMG's recoil and increase the ergo.
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>>547870979
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>>547872638
Jakposting should be a bannable offense desu.
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>>547885917
>just make the game easier

cool
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>>547886052
kill yourself?
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>>547886052
Making the game easier is not using the HMG in its current state.
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>>547880486
still 3/4, starting soonish
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>>547886349
>see the hmg every other hdg bot lobby
>thread insists it's dogshit and unusable
how come and what gives?
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thread is approaching critical mass of brown
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>>547880486
full
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test
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>>547886979
so over....
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>>547886461
seething contratian twats such as yourself
>SEE SEE THIS WEAPON IS GOOD BECAUSE IT LE KILLS THINGS
yeah so does the breaker sp, try using that exclusively as a primary and report back to me
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547886979
this guy failed at everything in life
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>bots are... LE HARD
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>almost 2026
>still don't just spawn them in
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>>547887874
Incel corp is pretty hard, normal bot are braindead easy though
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Minigun would have gone crazy 2 months ago, in the tunnels of oshaune, during the MO.
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>>547888126
erm...what if you run out of ammo while in the cave?
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The Flame Dog is going to cause so much hilarity and seethe, I'm taking it every mission.
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>>547888126
Not really since the Rupture will just go underground
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>>547888037
Incel corp is only "hard" because the shotgun devastators have rng 1 shot capabilities for some reason
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>>547888459
it can't possibly teamkill more than the arc dog.
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>>547871127
>>547871265
we live in a serbciety
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>>547888534
>rng 1 shot capabilities
It's a shotgun. Much like sniper rifles, shotguns are not and will never not be balanced.
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>>547888568
I have been killed by that thing from the other side of a mega hive. I seethed so much that I now insta kick anyone who brings it.
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Is the game less buggy and shitty now?
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>>547888459
It's literally the gas dog but flame, it can't be that bad
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>>547888459
>fire dog
>torcher
>crisper
>impact fire nades
>flamethrower stratagem
>orbital napalm
>eagle napalm
>complete disregard for teammates
It's gaymin time
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>>547888568
>>547888742
The flamedog will set patches of ground on fire and block teammates from escaping/pen them in to get killed.
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>>547888568
You can dive to put out fire. Arc damage usually is just instant death.
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>>547888798
dunno about bots but flame thrower can kill bilte titansProvided there's no other enemies nearby so you can sit under it for 5 seconds so you might as well take the flame sentry and flame mines.
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>>547888883
maybe keep your distance from the user?
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>>547888886
It's amazing how going prone doesn't even save you from the Tesla tower frying your ass if it's a set of stairs or an incline that puts you higher than the base of the tower. And 40% reduction is still nothing for the Dust Devil's armor sets.
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>mfw my hot dog roasts the shit out of (You)
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>>547888992
I like to kill bile titans by using a hover pack and shoving a torcher in their mouth
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>2X scope crosshair and laser are misaligned
>The crosshair is the actual point of impact
What the fuck?
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>>547882263
There's like 4 boosters worth bringing what the fuck are you gonna bring fire hellpods? turret resupply?
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A reminder that Arrowhead is so far up their own ass they think they "brainwashed" people.
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>>547879110
They shelved it because even dick riders on reddit were hating on it.
It would have bombed just in time for the holidays and their three months vacation.
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>>547883429
to see how many people instantly gravitate towards an underbarrel and judge whether it's worth the trouble of conquering >>547885398 (it will be because it will be everyone)
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>>547889957
Little anon realizes why nobody actually uses visible laser modules for aiming.
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>>547890508
That's ridiculous, half the players are just playing along with it and the other half don't need to be brainwashed to fight for fascism to begin with.
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>>547890508
>Kill bloodthirsty robots, violent aliens and mind controlling aliens
>NO JOHN YOU ARE THE NAZI
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Imagine if the Hot Dog was added when they mistakenly buffed the shit out of fire DOT because they didn't know about the host bug and a single incel breaker pellet grazing you would just end you on the spot
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>>547887708
arrows
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>>547874316
I wish Eravin would groom me...
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>>547870773
>man portable minigun never guys
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>>547871420
Battle armor stratagem.
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>>547891502
your exosuit?
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>>547891602
still kind of trash and it doesn't have jump jets
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>>547880486
after running it back we can declare the anthill drowned
good games anons, i'm gonna go sleep
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>>547892027
ggs, was really fun
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hiii hdg
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>>547878770
Because when you fail to extract, the ones who do get to see you on the side welcoming them back. Its an ego stroking session and the kind of shit I would kick for.
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>>547893154
hello ma'am, blease show bob and vegene
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>>547891351
would be a better game without Hollywood cringe of that sort
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Can't wait for a full lobby of minigun users, unless 1 of you decided to be a ammo mule and bring the supply backpack to resupply the team
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bufftoddlers killed the game
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>>547893741
I'll never even equip it. 2goofy4me.
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>>547893759
shut up gucciNIGGERS get pounded in your Foxhole
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>a passive that protects you against both aimpunch and ragdolling
OH MY GOD YE-
>it's a Rambo/Predator reference
Hah...well it's still fin-
>it has vietnam era jungle camo on it
*throws up a bit in my mouth*
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>>547893853
the supply pack or the minigun?
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>>547893947
Minigun. It makes no physical sense.
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>>547894020
why not?
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>>547894020
But bro it's heckin kewl or something
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>>547894146
the recoil would break your bones for one
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>>547879205
>*bounces off harmlessly*
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>>547894020
Ah nice! So you will be our ammo mule then.
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>>547894220
you got anything to back that up?
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>>547894261
Nah, backpack gems are training wheel items, I generally have no use for them.
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>>547893741
I wanna see all chainsword w/ peak physique
If AH understood fun they would make it heavy pen and give it a fuckload of stagger so you can saw through hulks and chargers
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>>547894454
>If AH understood fun they would make it heavy pen
it starts with med, goes to heavy over time, like desickle
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>>547894512
you can swing it instantly for ap3 with okay stagger
or you can yank the pull cord, rev it up, and basically do a charged heavy attack for ap4 with loads of stagger
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>>547894626
you got a source or is that just wishful thinking?
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>>547891602
Those are vehicles. Exos can fit in nests but something which is smaller and can jump across any chasms or cliffsides do something they cannot. Combining what should be the equivalent of a jump pack, hard armor, a controllable HMG and a dedicated melee attack should be fairly useful. If the ranged weapon is modular and can be swapped somehow in the Destroyer then even better. However, there is a caveat in that a "proper" IS Standard doesn't really have any usable bughole closer tool. If it has a recoilless rifle or quasar arm then it could destroy holes, but then it couldn't have a machinegun or flamer arm at the same time, so it would be a one note stratagem.
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>>547895213
In the trailer you see him pull-start it on two separate occasions and it doesn't seem to just be the regular equip animation
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>>547895381
probably just a random pull out animation like the axe/sabre spin
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>>547893154
hello dear
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>>547895653
Wrong! So fvcking wrong! I'm going to rape you now!
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>>547893893
we get it you want it to be a labubu reference with a hot pink paint job
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>>547894220
>realism is FUN!
raped response
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>>547893741
>full minigun squad
>no one brought anti tank
>a single war strider crosses their path
>team wipe
i can see it now
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>>547896130
what I want it to be is one of the sets abdo does his first ever sling bikini or leotard for
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>>547894220
you born with glass bones and paper skin or somethin?
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>chainsword dropped
>*monkey paw curls* + *swedish realism*
>20% chance of the chain breaking by getting stuck on the enemy and violently snaps back at the user, dealing massive damage and causing bleed out
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>>547893741
its expendable, sadly, no way to supply ammo
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>>547893853
>complaining about infantry miniguns in a game with practical plasma small arms and dark matter teleporter backpacks
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>>547896304
Just chuck a thermite at it and get back to shooting
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>>547894220
maybe YOUR little bones
drink more milk, faggot
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>>547894220
You're a fucking idiot. Infantry portable miniguns don't fire calibers large enough to break bones.
>durr but rapid fire??
That introduces a control issue, not a recoil absorption issue. Unless you've got osteoperosis or something stupid like that, 3-6k rpm of 5.56 isn't going to pulverise your bones to powder. Persistent use will wear down your joint cartilage though, but that's happening to anyone who consistently deploys to live combat anyway.
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minigun? dont care
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>>547896430
Actually, xisters on the cord have confirmed that it'll get ammo back from resupply. But obv you don't reload it and when it's empty your guy treats it as an expendable weapon.
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>>547897226
>quaSAAR
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>>547897406
does that imply you have to leave it at 1 bullet left to be resupplied or you just chuck it never to be picked up again?
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I feel like the minigun should be a backpack loading weapon.
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I feel like fembots owe me sex.
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>>547897464
Saar do the needful and redeem a cold planet
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Is that Super Store shotgun a pump action or a weird fucked up break action? It looks like it's got a pump handle.
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>>547897691
Don't feel, coward, know they owe you sex
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>>547897478
I suppose so, that's my understanding of the minigun.
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>>547897719
What Superstore shotgun? If you're talking about >>547873472 take a closer look at how many arms the armor piece has.
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So are the stealth warbond weapons going to be viable outside of the gimmick stealth missions?
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>>547897859
It's just superimposed over the Legionnaire set, do not be silly my brother
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>>547898060
sure, they're just respectively the liberator and diligence with a bit of bullet drop
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>>547897859
A 0 IQ redditor put up that image as a mockup of what it would look like in the superstore. The image for armor and gun itself comes from a CC in the club.

https://youtu.be/CeWSAGIjyis?t=449
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Are the devs ever going to do anything about the throwing knives, smoke grenades, stun grenades and the sterilizer? They are the most useless weapons/grenades in the game.
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>>547898198
the low velocity will be very annoying in general, things like hunters and watchers will be AIDS to try and hit from beyond point blank with them.
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>>547898229
Vibes-based weapons balancing.
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>>547898214
>super shotgun is real
based, looking forward to that more than the warbond
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>>547898245
velocity is about 350m/s
if you can track them with an smg, you'll do fine with the censor and the suppressor
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>>547898214
>glitch unlimited
fuck off clickbaiter
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>>547898621
>velocity is about 350m/s
Source? Because the actual SMGs range from 200 to 285, and they're explicitly subsonic (mach 1 is 343m/s)
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>>547898653
Damn, good thing I linked the vid to the exact part where you see the superstore items or your sperg out might've held weight.
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>>547898710
https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/#scope=projectiles
this old ass spreadsheet has subsonic ammo listed at 330
and while damage stats are woefully outdated, bullshit like bullet speed, its weight and all the nonsense mostly checks out
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How fucking dumb are they to add a double barreled shotgun to this game? It’s going to be the most useless piece of shit ever.
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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243925935310/76561198068164741

FARMING SC 2/4
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are you guys alright again, last time i hosted lobbies here it was nothing but retards bitching all game about how others play in the lobbies
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>muh super shotgun its just like le doom!!!!!!!
doomniggers are almost as bad as 40kniggers
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>>547898782
It will be... fun.
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>>547898782
1) there already is a double barreled shotgun support weapon you can pick up during missions and a triple barreled sidearm
2) you fell for AI slop because your eyes and brain are poop
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>>547897204
>Infantry portable minigun
no such thing
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anyone down for lobby?
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>>547898782
They already have a triple barrel shotgun as a secondary.
It's okay.
First game also had a double barrel shotgun, it had insane spread, flame rounds, was one-handed and was actually quite good at clearing out hordes or dealing massive damage in CQC, plus its reload was quite fast too. The spent shells flying from its reload would block grenadier or rumbler projectiles in midair and instakill the user too, was peak kino.
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>>547898782
it's gonna be a primary
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>>547898916
This is the XM556 Microgun, a man portable minigun. Say hi, anon.
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Any chance we get a cryo themed warbond with a freeze gun?
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>>547899442
If there ever was a time to do something like that, it was with the polar patriots warbond
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>>547898782
>most useless piece of shit ever
Anon, we're discussing a double barrel shotgun, not the Lib Conc.
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>>547899574
Well, now that Arrowhead has opened the door to "reruns" of warbond themes, you never know. We might get the Arctic Patriots warbond next year.
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How would a freeze gun be different than the flamethrower and sterilizer?
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>>547899868
makes armor brittle/less effective or targeted slow effect that ramps up into stun
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>>547898229
Perfectly shit, as all the weapons will soon be.
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>>547899745
I would prefer Tundra Patriots if possible just because we don't have snowy forest camo.
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>>547900019
Yeah, Tundra Patriots would be cool. Would be swell if they brought back the set with the fur hood and goggles from HD1.
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>>547899868
It wouldn't be. It's just blue flame instead of red/green flame. Just like all bullets are just variable number launchers.

I'm just excited for yet another new armor set that I'm already sure was made by the latest art team hire with no reference to the other sets and somehow finds the perfect shades of green, grey, and specularity to absolutely NAIL matching fucking NOTHING.

JUST DO A RE-COLORING PASS ON ALL THE GOD DAMN ARMOR OR LET US CHOOSE SHADES OURSELVES.
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miniguns aren't real, they are a fantasy. fuck the devs for caving to reddit and their stupid toy ideas.
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>>547899442
It depends on how willing they are to add new status effects. It would be more work for them. If it did happen though, they'd probably end up adding cryo enemies as well to get full use out of their work.
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We’ve been getting too many assault rifles lately. Pacifier, coyote, the halo gun, the one-two and soon the suppressor. I hope we get more smgs and shotguns soon.
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>>547900286
I want more weird caseless guns like the Variable. Something like the Typhoon from Crysis 3 or the Hailstorm from Payday 2 would be neat.
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>>547899442
yeah they're working on content at breakneck speed expect it mid 2027
>>547898786
Congratulations anon you were the first. Tourist season is now officially declared- REJOICE!
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Are the melee weapons any good?
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>>547900461
lol
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>>547900461
lmao even
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Favorited loadouts, when? Additional slots on the emote wheel, when? New things to spend samples on, when? I'm already convinced we've seen everything the narrative has to share. The loop is just farming medals to unlock stuff in warbonds then... nothing since warbonds gear is invariably ass 99% of the time or become ass in the next patch.

Balance should be easy
>weapons are badass and overpowered
>enemies power creep to match
over and over
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>>547900461
Only against voteless.
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>>547900461
the stun lance used to be able to solo chargers with zero effort some time ago
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>>547900461
They're okay. Great on the Illuminate front for dealing with massive waves of voteless on chokepoints. Kinda dubious but viable on bugs. Can work on bot front but you need to clench your balls and deal with the fact that you're going to get shot if you try to run out in the open to chase them down, great if you're trying to stealth around (they still cause noise though because sweden can't code, good luck)
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>>547900461
the chainsaw will save us
r-right?
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>>547900612
it'll be so good that it's too good and Alexus will rape it within the first hotfix or two to the surprise and acclaim of literally no one
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Is the sterilizer any good?
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>>547900612
AP3, 150 damage, five year long equip animation because you have to pull start it, terrible ergo. Take it or leave it.
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Okay okay okay get this guys
Laser minigun
Plasma minigun
Gauss (rail) minigun
Erupting minigun
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rework the epoch into a plasma minigun and maybe it'll be good
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>>547896304
Ult & Therms
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>>547900612
It will accidentally multi-hit too many times when in a live network environment so it becomes grossly overpowered. Many funs will be had dueling Hulks with it, with or without jetpacks.
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>>547900461
>memelee
ha
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>>547900829
add 5.56 microgun and 12.7 manportable GAU to the list so we have rotary versions of the Stalwart & HMG too
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>>547900829
The erupting minigun? Is that what you call yours?
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>>547896304
>what are red stratagems
>what are rocket/AC sentries
>what is dropping supplies ontop of the war strider
ngmi
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>finally got around to watching a breakdown on durable damage
what the actual fuck is wrong with them?
for what purpose does the game need this overengineered system for damage on top of the complexity of body part HP and armor plates?
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>>547900829
While I too enjoy the gatling laser, I'd more enjoy a spinning triple barrel heavy scythe.
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>>547901189
to make every weapon in the game deceptively homogenized
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>>547901189
It's not overengineered at all. If everything was just HP and armor deflection there would be too little distinction between weapons and enemies, so defeating them would be very strictly having the right tool or not, and also there would be nothing to sell as warbonds.
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>>547901189
I don't even know what durable damage is, I just shoot enemies until they stop moving
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>>547900829
Autocannon gatling gun
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>>547901239
addendum. a gatling arc thrower would be tits too.
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When the fuck are they adding more vehicles?
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>>547901442
>so defeating them would be very strictly having the right tool or not
So just like now? lol
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wow they are really churning out new warbonds rather quickly, guess making money and bloating the game with sidegrades even more is WAY more important than fixing the fucking game, at least the sloppa enjoyers are happy
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>>547901442
That would make more sense if explosive weapons didn't ignore durability and weren't the best weapons in the game.
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>>547902486
>churning out new warbonds rather quickly
i know it's like almost every other week!
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>>547901189
durable value exists because the original, non-bufftoddler corrupted version of HD2 aimed to punish excessive spraying and reward precision gameplay / semi auto chadness
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>>547903265
it's literally just pierce vs. blunt damage
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>>547898824
>bitching all game about how others play in the lobbies
they always do that, just silently most of the time
I'll make it my objective to cause gigaseethe by bringing autocannon or quasar to heckin ebin all-minigun lobbies
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>>547903639
woah...
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>>547896197
but realism is fun
the game had more soul when it didn't surrender its identity (tactical sandbox) for reddit updoots
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>>547871469
>Vitality
This one is good because it scales better the higher your armor rating. Its the entire reason medium padding is the best armor in the game. Explosives resist scales up with armor rating too so 150 + vit is about equal in effectiveness as 100 + fortified.
>UAV
This gives you so much radar range that you see patrols as they spawn in at 75m. You can solo D10s with servo assisted without ever letting anything get close to you if you know what you're doing.
>Stamina
Required for heavies not using medkit, supply pack, or a mobility pack
>Infusion
This needs to be split into two boosters because it is blatantly overpowered. I would personally move the speed boost effect of stims over to dead sprint and have infusion increase melee damage by an additional 100-200% alongside its damage resistance.
>HSO
This should not be a booster. It should be something you spend samples or req to enable for yourself when preparing to drop. Have the DSS give this effect for free all the time at whatever planet its at. Replace the existing HSO booster with one that reduces resupply cooldown and call in time instead since that has synergy with armed resupply pods and ship upgrades.

Everything else sucks.
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>>547899234
>requires two men to operate
>logistically impractical
>considered retarded
a failed concept prototype isn't the same as a real weapon bub
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>>547903786
>This should not be a booster
agree but it shouldn't be replaced by anything either
manage your shit
be fucking frugal for once
if you feel like you don't get enough stimmies to cover your mishaps, redeem toothpaste sissy armor
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>>547903932
>concept prototype
in MY scifi? thank god this won't share my loadout screen with plasma guns
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>>547898786
Thanks everyone for joining
>>547900452
Reported to democracy officer
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>a failed concept prototype isn't the same as a real weapon bub
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>>547903932
Why didn't the US Army accept having one soldier wear the backpack to reload the shooter. Skill issue?
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>>547903932
>85lbs
I am pretty sure I sprinted with this shit on my back in basic.
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A man portable rotary gun should be 3 barrels, 4 at most. The rate of fire is a non issue because this is an electrically driven feed and you can set the rate to whatever you want, whether fixed into the design or with a control knob somewhere. The advantage is single man sustained fire so it only makes sense if you have the strength, mechanically with exoskeletons or otherwise, to carry all that ammo. And have magic supply packs that turn into whatever ammo you want and is passed into other people's pockets in a single nanosecond.
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>>547903932
How many plasma guns and infantry lasers do we have that can immediately kill a man with a shot to the chest?
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Why do people here still complain about weapons being weak when the enemies are no longer a threat to the players? I don't get it. Failing a D10 mission even with randoms just doesn't happen anymore. HD2 is strictly a party/LARP game now.
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>>547905980
>frogposting
>1/10 bait
Name a more dynamic duo.
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>>547905980
Game is not fun, that's why.
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>ahead has all the shit for a stealth warbond ready to go
>they instead do viper commandos 2.0
GIMME
MY
FUCKING
STEALTH
WARBOND
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D10, Robots.
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>>547905980
because they haven’t played since release and only come back for warbonds to screech about NERFS!! NERFS!!! like that’s at all still relevant compared to all the other blaring issues with the game
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>>547906249
hopefully this means they are seriously working on making stealth a viable option instead of a tacked on thing like it currently is
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>MG43 fell behind after recent durable buff to bugs
>Will get shafted to a mere curiosity POI support like double break shotgun once minigun is here
It's never been so over
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>>547906336
2/4.
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>>547906558
Use your backpack slot to K9 minigun chads
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>Only 140gb left on SSD
I- I think I can make it fit bros
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>>547906336
3/4, get in!
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>>547906336
FVLL.
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>>547903932
That is the XM214, a version of the weapon for which the XM556 is a scaled down, single man portable version. You lack reading comprehension anon.
>logistically impractical
That wasn't the point though was it? You said "it doesn't exist"
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>>547906785
Use lots of lube at least
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>/hdg/ cries when there is no content
>/hdg/ cries when there is content
>/hdg/ cries about the weapons balance before they got added to the game
this place is worse than lowsodiumhelldivers
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>Portable minigun instead of minigun emplacement
Game is now fully slopified for the masses
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>>547908497
>now
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>>547908272
>reddit mentioned
Hmm... maybe go back, ya weenie.
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>>547908272
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>>547906336
3/4 again, going in 5 minutes either way.
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>>547908572
Things will get much worse and blatant from now on
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>>547870979
BUTABROS, WE ARE SO BACK
BUHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
OINK OINK OINK!
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>>547908497
Game was slopified the day the 60 day patch dropped.
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>>547908272
Life must suck for people with no long term memory
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AMR vs. Charger from the front,
Headshots or leg kill?
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>>547904051
HSO sucks because it doesnt teach you these things but it does need to be replaced so new players have early viable options. What im suggesting does the following:
>gives new players a universally good early game booster for them that doesn't only have an effect when you die or first spawn in
>stacks with ship upgrades so higher levels who weren't taking HSO anyway aren't shafted with a completely useless booster for them
>call in reduction would offset increased call in time planet modifier for a niche pick on those ops, speeds things up for adept players, and makes things more forgiving for new players who aren't calling in supplies proactively yet
>makes supply pack less desirable as a must-have crutch for new players (bad players will still rely on it though)
>funnels new players to the DSS when they don't have the resources to spend samples for the extra ammo on drop every mission
>gives higher levels a reason to spend their capped samples on something even if they didn't need it to begin with
>booster selection becomes more competitive as there are now more reasons to use the good sample booster regularly
What you're taking issue with I think would be better solved by removing stims and grenades from the supply pack and tying stim capacity to armor class. Lights would get 2, Mediums get 4, Heavies get 6. This would dissuade Lights from spamming prestim and getting away for free every time they make a mistake as often while letting heavies reserve a couple for stamina or prestimming against a horde of enemies with a machine gun or something. Its also an indirect nerf to medium extra padding since thats far and away the best heavy armor in the game by technically being medium.
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Sorry Divers! It seems over the past two months you managed to liberate TWO entire planets outside of our MOs!
You gotta pay the planet tax for that so we're going to spam twenty invasions all at once to make sure we're paid twenty to one times what you freed without our permission.

Don't worry though, new warbond soon with a melee weapon that takes up your support slot! Enjoy!
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>>547911152
bro these stims aint shit
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You know we probably could have kept a roughly even number of planets if any of the mongoloid drooling playerbase would liberate the invading planets instead of just defending.
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>>547911395
Of course we could've joel
You are the best DM, your players don't deserve you
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>>547911395
Not my problem, sar. I must redeem the super credits clean it up dalit.
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sex with fembots
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>>547906785
>SSD at 24% health left
>could either last me 2 more years or brick itself at any moment
>no SSD replacement options because my mobo is too vintage
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Reminder:
If your support weapon is <AP4, you have a primary weapon that takes up a stratagem slot.
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Reminder:
If your support weapon is <AP5, you have a primary weapon that takes up a stratagem slot.
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>>547911741
Which is completely fine, because it's the best primary weapon in the game, and I have a support weapon as my secondary.
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>>547906336
GGs.
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>>547911906
GGs anon. Hopefully one day the bots will manage to kill us again.
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>>547911983
Not happening. HD2 is a game for everyone, anon.
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warbond + illuminate cultists december 2nd
warbond + bot missions december 11th
the extra spoonful of content to make casuals swallow the future nerf patch
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>>547912332
Uhhh, no? It's my game. When bots were difficult I stamped my feet and forced AH to bend the knee. I birthed the 60-day patch from the festering depths of my neo-vagina.
I raped Alexus and consigned him to the surstromming chambers.
I literally datamined Redacted Regiment, shared the leaks in the cord, and fed the info to content creators so that Arrowhead would pivot to Viper Commandos 2.
I even destroyed my own PC and sent a stray electron straight into the cpu of OhDough's computer to put so much bad press on AH they'd have to take optimization more seriously.
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>>547911983
Not even orbital airburst was hungry today.
Owari da.
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nerftroon seething extra hard today, huh
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>>547911983
>play the easiest faction in the game
>complains it's easy
Swiggers need to bring Oshaune back, actual hard content ever released so far and they locked it up because shitters won't stop bitching
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>>547912750
He ain't wrong though.
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>>547912831
>Easiest faction the game
Anon, all three factions are brain dead easy.
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>>547912840
of course not, nerftroon :)
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>>547912930
>Seething bufftroon doesn't even deny that he prefers HD2 as a frictionless party game
Go back, tranny.
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>>547913041
ok retard
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>>547913087
>Seething turdworld bufftranny still isn't denying the allegations
Go back.
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Bufftroons have the same mentality as cheaters but they're too retarded to use cheat engine.
The fact that they use and defend the infinite supply exploit is undeniable proof of this.
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>>547913241
ok retard
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>>547913341
>>547913041
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>>547913396
ok retard
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Daily reminder all nerf troons are brown turdworld SEAmonkeys, specifically indonesian and filipino. They haven't stopped seething ever since they got exposed to be a bunch of spear chucking jungle asians
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>>547913461
Go back, tranny.
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>>547913537
ok retard
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>>547913503
chink hands typed this
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>>547913503
If bufftroons are that bad then i can't possibly imagine how disgusting and retarded your average nerftroon must be then.
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>>547913618
I'd rather be a chink than a fucking brownoid indog nerf tranny lmfao. Go eat pagpag or something
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>>547913604
>>547913537
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>>547913503
>spear chucking jungle asians
The same breed that absolutely btfo'd burgertards?
Not a big accoplishment, but I just wanted to remind everyone that burgers are inferior to literally everyone on the planet except jeets, lmao.
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Another episode where people cannot conceive of the game being better than it is now so they call each other trannies for 12 hours
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How is the game supposed to be more difficult without nerfs though. And I'm counting buffing enemies as a 'nerf'.
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>>547913663
nerf troons are literally brown, at least buffGODs are majority european
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>>547913753
ok retard
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>>547913857
>>547913537
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>>547913901
ok retard
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>>547913803
creating new sets of stronger enemies
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>>547913803
No no don't buff enemies, you make games harder by making objectives harder. Solo silo should destroy jammers btw haha
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>>547913761
This is what the supposedly inferior burgers did to uppity Japs who raped East and Southeast Asia for about twenty years.
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>>547914001
AH can't make new fun enemies though. Their idea of fun and challenging is ragdoll spam and instagibs.
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>>547913998
>>547913537
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>>547914153
>Israel did way worse to Gaza already
>wrong yellow skin monkeys
>it wasn't even americans that did that, it was the jews
Lmao, hillbilly burgerkek you got btfo'd by jungle monkeys.
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>>547914162
>challenging is ragdoll spam and instagibs
Avoidable if you don't play like trash.
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>equip anti ragdoll armor
>eat an entire rocket barrage because the first one didn't throw you to the ground
You will learn to love ragdolls. You will beg for more ragdolls
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>>547913761
>btfo burgertards
>trash eating brownoid applying himself to a country that is 90% chinks and is a part of the Sinosphere
Vietnam is literally the only based country in SEA and they are only classified as "SEA" because of their geographic location, everything else from culture to people are indistinguishable from the Chinese. Think of Ukraine and Russia and Poland, troons likes to pretend they are different but literally everyone and their moms behind closed door know they are all the same.
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>>547914273
>SEAmonkey can barely read or comprehend English
>Types irrelevant gibberish and lies for me
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This is our winter of disco tent
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>>547913284
Off the charts TRVTH radiation measured from this TRVTH NVKE.
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>nerftranny having xis daily meltie
Its all so very tiresome.
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>>547914434
>can't keep up (his education system was engineered by kikegods to turn him into retarded cattle, lmao)
>accuses the other side of not comprehending and typing gibberish
Dunning Krueger moment right there.
>>547914409
The average burgerkek is on the same level as a the average ruski:
>poor, ugly, addicted to poison
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>nerf troons got exposed once again to be brown and they are seething and shitting up the thread
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>>547914731
>Actually using ai slop
Brown shitter detected
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>>547914783
>If i keep accusing the other side of being brown then they won't suspect I'm a turd worlder!
Lmao. No need to be self conscious. HD2 is for everyone, even casual garbage like you.
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the warbond can't come soon enough...
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>>547915021
>n-no u
concession accepted, go eat pagpag
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Everyone is brown until proven trans.
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>>547915021
Wrong. HD2 was made exclusively for Playstation chads. Yall PC gay niggas just unpaid beta tester bitches.
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>>547915242
Everyone here is trans though
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Don't bully the nerftard too much or he's gonna post child porn again
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This one is my favorite
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>don't take up a backpack space
>heavy penetration
>superior damage
Why use the minigun when the HMG exists?
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>>547916025
hopefully the minigun won't have dogshit ergo and heavy recoil
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>>547916025
You never used HMG so shut the fuck up
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>>547916025
Because I want a stratagem weapon to kill all the chaff without reloading?
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>>547916025
Not a big fan of the design. Every gun is fairly conventional and grounded but the shapes and lines on this make it look like something Star Wars ARC troopers would use
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>>547890358
Deadsprint with heavy armor.
Stamina booster if I'm doing a melee build.
Yellow stims if I've got supply pack.
Scan booster if I'm throwing a lot of reds and want to see where shit is.
Bomb booster if I'm throwing short cooldown sentries.
Muscle enhancement if it's a jungle/snow planet
Motivational shocks if its bugs, specially oshaune, or I'm being EMS.
Vitality booster if I'm bringing gas or fire build (pretty useless otherwise outside of niche break points of getting limb hit a few times).
Localized confusion if we've got a cooldown modifier.

And yeah that's about it.
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>>547916025
>>547916169
>>547916214
>>547916302
They should delete the HMG from the game and replace it with the Maxigun, I mean for fuck sake, it occupies a backpack slot and backpack support weapons were meant to be better than the backpackless one, so the minigun should able to do AP4 with shit ergonomic and big recoil as trade offs for it's semi-anti tank capability, the Stalwart and MMG are fine as they are
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>>547916025
You don't use the HMG if you're asking this. It's probably one of the weakest support weapons at the moment.
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>>547916025
Because it feels like shit to use. The only time I like it is when I'm using the mounted one on the FRV.
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>>547916447
Shut up retard.
You should delete yourself from life.
Unironic retarded roastie zoomer mentality. The HMG, MMG, Stalwart and Maxigun all fill different niches as support weapons.
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Peak physique sucks with the HMG you're supposed to be using recoil reduction on max cyclic rate
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>>547916447
the minigun will be an MMG with a backpack and that's it. More ammo without reloading is the perk the backpack buys you. AHs monkeypaw balancing doesn't allow for anything more.
I'm also sure it will have the unrealistic but mandatory spool-up, poor accuracy and possibly some heat management stuff for the gun barrels.
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>>547877615
Nerve gas
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>>547916025
They had to boost the reload speed to make it viable, and now the animation is uncanny with how fast it is. I wish the player moved with that crackhead energy reloading every other support weapon.
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>>547916560
What niche is that? Being dogshit?
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>>547916718
>spool up
>poor accuracy
>heat management
You're describing the DE Sickle
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>>547916447
You're retarded.
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Imagine if bipods actually had a function and reduced recoil by 80% while deployed...
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>>547917028
Imaging if they improved ergo
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>>547917028
Imagine if the game had actual high difficulty modes that required such functions to begin with.
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>>547916447
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Just gave 10 bucks to Svvedes for their hard work. u mad?
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>>547917154
>he's been playing on dif1 since launch
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Anyone up for a machine guns only lobby?
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>>547917441
D1 on launch was harder than current D10.
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>>547917595
Would have to be HMG only if we're gonna deal with heavies in a reasonable amount of time
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>>547918306
Ultimatums and thermites.
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>>547918407
Since when did we get machine gun variants of those?
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>>547918407
ew
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>>547904327
all sci-fi should make efforts to incorporate hard realism
last thing we need are more star wars and wh40gays
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>>547918462
>ultimatum machine gun
just imagine...
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>>547919601
Just throw out a 380mm barrage
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>>547919601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYg7ohJQU-0
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>>547916025
The shitter replies to this post should tell you why. Retards can't aim, can't shoot and can't reload
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>>547916150
ergo is strictly a noob filter stat that you shouldn't need and the meta perks come with 30% reduced recoil
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547919993
>This guy thinks there are people who cannot leftclick or press R on their keyboard because they state the simple fact the HMG blows
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>>547916025
Do we even know anything about the minigun? Maybe it has twice the ammo of the HMG and you can dump the whole belt of 500 bullets or whatever without having to reload maybe?
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>>547920141
>How do you know I can't aim, can't shoot and can't reload when I can't aim, can't shoot and can't reload?
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>>547916025
I don't mind the backpack. The autocannon backpack that is. Breddy safe to say that the minidick gun will live in AC's shadow just like AMR, GL, WASP, and a couple others do.
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>>547920141
nta but HMG is excellent
it is however a marksman weapon
your aim blows
and so does your mental health because you seem to lack the patience to stance into crouch or prone before firing
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Yeah, next you're gonna tell me the sterilizer is okay.
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>>547916025
HMG is trash and the only thing it has going for it is fuck huge damage you can't take advantage off due to shit dura damage
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It's medpen and prevents the use of the infinite thermite pack so you'll have to rely on your team for heavies, soloshitters are going to have a meltdown (again)
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>>547920436
>and so does your mental health because
nigga what
are you fucking gay
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>>547920436
>it is however a marksman weapon
not really
takes way too many shots to kill shit for that
like your average bug guard takes like 6 shots to the frontal plate
you're better off using the AMR at that point
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>>547877492
In the prior warbond, dummy.
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>>547920675
>anyone that's not a full blown avatar of mental illness is gay
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Diligence and DCS are great bug weapons and this retarded player base will never know that lmao
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>couple days ago ran full on shock trooper
>blitzer, K9 dog, Tesla tower, EMS mortar, ARC thrower
>rack up 900+ kills on the bug mission I joined
Definitely the highest kill count mission where I wasn't host. Feels good man
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>>547921427
great weapons in general, certainly the best in their category though there's no real competition aside from Deadeye
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>>547921867
>sleeping on the Amendment
Your loss
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>>547921732
my highest kill count is somewhere above 8k
launch d7 bugs btw
late comers simply never beat it
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>>547921427
They are mid. Guns for people too concerned with not wasting ammo and theoretical efficiency
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>>547921867
Amendment is a shared first place with deadeye when ranking DMRs.
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>>547921954
>Dili pen and CS damage when it should be the other way around
hard pass
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>>547922308
What?
CS has more damage than the dili.
Amendment is DCS damage on dili handling and a juiced up firerate.
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>>547871270
>trust "Purifier slaps" Alexus
>trust a CM
I'll trust neither, and choose to believe that the maxigun won't even function on release.
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>>547913503
Why is it that bootlickers and tryhards don't understand why people liked coyote. Even when it wasn't even in top 10 of guns when it came out.
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Will they ever make the Epoch good?
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>>547923881
It has been since they fixed its accuracy.
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>>547924161
They didn't fix shit though. It's still about as innaccurate are the pre-bruff Reprimand was
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>>547923881
It's already "good", it's just boring as fuck to use
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>>547923860
Why did people like coyote?
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>>547923881
Hello, shitter!
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>>547924448
It was a status effect weapon that could kill shit one its own
And if you managed the fire dot well it could kill even more
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6 more days.....
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>>547924448
Good pen
Good damage
Good ammo
Looked cool, big fuckhuge flash effect whenever you impact something
Fire DOT
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>not using the HMG with lowest RPM for precision weakpoint tapping like a pocket AC/AMR is brainless behavior
>not using the HMG with highest RPM to unload onto enemies to spew lead trigger happy is heartless behavior
am I not allowed to do both
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>>547925036
No
Fun is verboten
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>>547924448
The reward of killing shit fast and efficiently without the basic effort of having to aim
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>cookout
>incendiary
>does not in fact set shit on fire

?????
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I still don't understand why the Coyote needed a nerf so badly that AH fucked around with the durability of most enemies, but the meta crutches eruptor and crossbow are fine and unnerfed
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>>547925454
Because the last time they gave the Eruptor a much deserved nerf, the fanbase tweaked out so hard that it nearly killed the game.
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>>547874474
get a better PC
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>>547925454
They're tip toeing around the biggest offenders because they're afraid to commit. If they touch the eruptor then the community would throw yet another super tantrum followed by another review bomb.
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>>547925454
No systems to indirectly nerf explosive weapons, they have to nerf them directly and face the reddit tantrum head on
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>>547916689
>PP
>sucks
just get good, it is certainly not an issue with HMG
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>>547925454
Also they overbuffed the crossbow because retards refused to use it if it didn't have comparable power to the Eruptor.
Despite release crossbow being actually really fucking good at clearing groups and killing mediums.
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>>547925364
you can thank arrowhead for ''''''fixing'''''' status effects (nerfing them and breaking them in a different way)
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I'm considering uninstalling. I can't stand AH's faggotry much more.
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>>547927541
Leave, faggot. Less nerftroons means the game can start healing.
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>>547925141
fun, like all things that are valued and held dear, is actually extremely serious business
that is to say I'd prefer my fun without a fat steamy turd of surströmming infused swigger shit on top
the Helldivers 2 that was meant to + should be rather than the Helldivers 2 as it exists according to failurehead's vision
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>>547927541
if dec 2 is shit and breaks more of the game then so am i
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>>547927591
Nice projection there, faggot.
Have you considered not being retarded monkey that assumes things as true without having any evidence for it?
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>>547927591
but anon, bufftoddlers brought us to this mess to begin with
they had the game's foundations ripped to shreds so they could hold M1 until they get their five star participation trophy
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>>547927591
TRUTH HELLBOMB
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>>547917903
The game has always been easy to clear on the highest difficulty, only difference is you can do it with more weapons now
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Lets keep nerfing our weapons! There are too many players in this game, it needs to die faster!
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god bekvam is so fucking ugly I want to puke retarded purple shithole
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>>547928567
Buffs killed the game thougheverbeist'd
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>>547928567
No no we need to keep nerfing the enemies even more! You can sometimes still die on D10 from the enemies and that is simply unacceptable!
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>>547925364
Have you tried hitting the enemy?
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>>547925364
Please understand...
It is snowing in Sweden
This kills DoT
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>>547928732
This, the game is way easier than it was on launch.
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vgh... only when 90% of the arsenal is worthless again will HD2 be saved...
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>>547929316
You can have the entire arsenal being useful without the game being pathetically easy. The balance right before the 60 Day Patch wasn't too bad, with a few exceptions.
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>>547929316
Why can't hard modes actually be hard? You keep deflecting with strawman arguments.
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I want strong weapons against shitton of strong enemies.
Why the fuck did this game go from shit weapons against shitton of strong enemies, to strong weapons against a bit of enemies?
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>Yes, 90% of the arsenal should be worthless
nerftroons, everyone...
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>>547927541
is that what you look like?
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>>547915989
Best shotgun in the game
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>>547929889
You're still strawmanning. You're pathetic. KYS
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>>547929889
Are these nerftroons in the thread with us right now?
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>>547929889
>buff fags are incompetent and illiterate
Yes, we already knew this.
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>>547929972
they have been shitting up the thread all day
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>>547929784
>Why the fuck did this game go from shit weapons against shitton of strong enemies, to strong weapons against a bit of enemies?
Because people like
>>547929889
>>547929316
Will shit their diaper in anger if they have to face the slightest bit of challenge.
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>>547928412
>game has always been easy
all the more reason to let it pose a good challenge
the alternative would be to ruin it even further i.e. cater to gormless gamer dads for whom it's literally impossible to make a game that's easy enough
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the future nerftroons want for the game is everyone running the same loadout because 90% of stuff is trash.
This is fun. This is the future. This won't lead HD2 to an early grave.
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>>547930095
You sure? Most of the whining is coming from people who are crying about Swedes living rent free in their head. Or people crying because their assuming the new warbond won't be super strong enough for them.
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>>547930248
>the future nerftroons want for the game is everyone running the same loadout because 90% of stuff is trash.
Wow, another strawman argument! Nevermind the fact that shitters are already bringing the same weapons and supply pack every mission and are still demanding enemy nerfs/ player buffs on top. Stop being a dishonest piece of shit.
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>>547872474
This is not Justice poster. This is a Ministry of Truth replacement.
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strawman, strawman, strawman, cries the creature that hasn't made a single good-faith argument in his entire existence while getting upset at things that are only happening in his head
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>>547930248
You realize everyone already runs the same few loadouts every time, because the game is so fucking awfully balanced, right?
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>accuses others of bad faith arguing when he himself made 5 posts in a row misrepresenting what hardcore players actually want for the game
>still refuses to address the sheer easiness of D10 when discussing balance.
KYS you dishonest piece of trash.
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>>547930248
there's nothing wrong with a little competitive Darwinism
we're not all meant to make it
maybe getting crushed, frustrated, and told you're not good enough is just what you deserve + ought to accept
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>>547929702
They're marxsists who view anyone performing better than them as a threat, which is why they use the same dishonest dialectic
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>>547930698
>hardcore players
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>>547930698
>hardcore players
nerftroons don't even play the amge however
easily proven by their constant hyperbole
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Your Helldivers 2 movie protagonist, sir
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>>547930827
>bufftodler is a furfag
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>nerftroons don't even play the amge however
Another bad faith argument/ desperate deflection. KYS nerftroon
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>>547876279
There's been generations.
>reposts and edits of dinosaur comics, xkcd, and super mega comics (early internet)
>rage faces (reddit era)
>wojacks (post reddit beginning of the divergence)
>those peanut looking dudes with silly faces (omen of the True Fate and darkest timeline)
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>>547930968
That's not Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
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>>547872474
>>547930537
And I love Justice too
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>>547930989
I knew that for a while
Lieutenant Barclay, beam the anti furry suppository directly into wulfgamer's anus
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>>547930759
bufftrannies being left wing tranny communists makes a lot of sense.
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>>547931160
They could only afford Dwight "The Stone" Joelssonn
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>>547931595
for me it's Alexus "das Schwein" Kravchenko
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>>547930989
that's you, media literacy-kun
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>>547931881
Nigga, you are the one that literally has furry art saved and ready.
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Nerftroons, what exactly do you want changed? Be specific
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>>547932218
I would be fine with most stuff staying as is and them adding a few difficulity levels that are actually challenging.
But my fear is that D15 would be what D10 is now in a year time if the game keeps the same course.
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>>547932218
>More complex objectives
>Better enemy AI
>more accurate enemies
>More negative modifiers
>deadlier and tougher enemies
>more limits on lives, ammo, and stims
These things have already been said countless times so I'm not sure why you're acting ignorant?
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>>547932436
>>547932498
>doesnt list any specific nerfs
>just technical improvements and temporary debuffs
Are nerftroons simply retarded?
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>>547932218
a difficulty tier that is tuned such that even a squad of seasoned metaslaves only gets a chance at mission success
what d13-15 were in the first game
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The game doesn't need more difficulty modes. All it needs is for there to be an actual difference between the existing difficulties, rather than this weak "10% more enemy spawns and a larger proportion are heavies" shit.
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>>547930989
>>547932015
In my mind I am a big fat pigman and you are the cute little anime girl and I forcibly breed you with a litter of piglets
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>>547932015
>t. self professed and notorious scalie
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>>547932679
There are 2 difficulties
Easy (1-6)
Hard (7-10)
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>>547932498
a list of vague random stuff isn't a list of concrete things you want
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>>547932679
It doesn't but if they try to make existing difficulity levels harder bufftroons would cry and piss themselves.
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>>547933023
here we see the nerfschizo, getting upset about things that only happen in his head again
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>>547932584
>>547933005
Bufftoddlers really suck at reading, are we sure they aren't real toddlers
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>>547933167
>small durability buff
>6 weeks off crying
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reminder that discord trannies HATE SC farming and especially SC farming lobbies
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>>547933178
>has 0 reading comprehension
>tells other people that they suck at reading
oh yea, that's what you'd expect from nerftroons
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>>547933371
As they should.
SC farming lobbies are a tourist activity, which is why it only happens around updates.
Every real player saves up enough SC from just playing.
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lets shoot some bugs

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243973136401/76561197999591385
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I want the game to be easy but I also want to watch helplessly as the leandivers in my squad are viciously raped by our enemies while I can do nothing but fap.
How do I reconcile this?
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>>547934053
The easiest and most effective solution would be to kill yourself.
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Until thermites and ultimatum are pummeled into dust nothing good can happen RE: balance. These satanic devices are essentially support weapons in handgun/grenade slots and introduced the idea that you are entitled to being entirely self reliant, which mindbroke the already retarded playerbase forever.
That C4 strat we never got would be genuinely compelling if they didn't exist.
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>>547933783
fat fetishist lobby
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>>547934441
>nerf thermites
>AT support weapons become the default pick again
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>>547932679
if you actually believe d11-15 shouldn't happen you have been gaslit by swiggers
d10 is perfectly tuned as it is, a slightly above medium difficulty tier for dads that want a little spice to go alongside their boring ass helldive & chill
d11-15 should happen and be turbo bullshit that checks your emotional fortitude eight times a minute, because that's what video games actually are
frustrating the average diver and causing anger or even hate is a small price to pay for the true HD2 experience, simple as
besides, onyxia wipe tier rants would be more entertaining than heckin ebin TikTok ragdoll comps
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>>547934604
>same guy who claims that also whines about hive guards and alpha commanders being too tough
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>>547934441
Sometimes it feels like me in my three friends are alone in how we operate. One of us runs exclusively chaff clear. Another runs heavy pen targeting. One guy does anti-tank. And the last guy usually is either support or Lone Wolf [at least two weapons that don't require bullet ammo].
We also switch things up a lot and don't always take the same rules but we follow these general principles of who does what which changes depending on the mission type and goals [factory strider convoy]
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>>547934683
thank god you people are completely impotent and outnumbered by people with sense lmao
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>>547931463
Obsessed
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>>547934053
Don't worry anon, there are people who can help you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iie1XK66x8
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>>547934745
We all played on launch and that's how it worked back then. Before thermites everyone brought AT
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>Complaining about the games difficulty
>Again
Go play Darktide.
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>>547934964
No, people brought stun nades and OPS/500kg because AT support weapons were mostly bad, especially on bots.
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>>547934834
turbo projection
gaming isn't about having nice feelings
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>>547934820
Most friend groups that started with this game disintegrated over the complete lack of content. Half the shit they add is already gone
>No TCS missions
>No cave missions
>No illuminate invasion missions
>Subfactions are just missing 90% of the time
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>>547934484
You're a legitimate schizo
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>>547934248
>>547934927
Wtf I would fuck your ass if you said this to my face bitch
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>>547934683
>besides, onyxia wipe tier rants would be more entertaining than heckin ebin TikTok ragdoll comps
Are you implying vanilla wow was hard?
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>>547935076
>Old OPS
>Good
Also stuns just didn't work at all until recently, no wonder you're addicted to nerfing shit your only exposure to launch was reddit clips
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>>547934964
I ran MG almost exclusively :) I remember trying to stick close to guys with AT and resupplying them + keeping adds at bay
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>>547935039
Why can't I play the original and uncorrupted version of Helldivers 2? Why should your malignant, game-ruining, community-disintegrating, turbo redditesque bufftoddlerdom be tolerated in my general?
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>>547935268
>Also stuns just didn't work at all until recently
???
???
???
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The Automatons are hacking the Citizen Surveillance and Safety program.
I am not a dissident. High Command will try to silence this.
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>>547934441
Thermite doesn't even function like it should. Under normal circumstances it would simply work the same as current Dynamite only without the explosion radius. Turn it solely into a building destroyer that kills through heavy dot damage, with the inability to stick to heavies.

Ultimatum is perfectly fine now that it has 40 demo force. It's more of an emergency crowd cleaner instead of pocket AT and objective destroyer.
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>>547935363
Go play Darktide and stop crying.
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>>547935364
Only hosts could stun for a good while, orbital EMS and stun nades wouldn't do anything otherwise. Solonigs loved them but for most players they were a non-option
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>>547935268
>>Old OPS
>>Good
nigger it one shot bile titans
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>>547935268
Old OPS was better than current OPS you retard that didn't even play the game back then. Because even the OPS aoe explosion could kill most heavies, while today you need a direct hit

>Also stuns just didn't work at all until recently
Holy fuck look at this retard, stun worked perfectly fine before AHs (((bugfix))) shortly after the police brutality warbond fucked it up

Good god nerfniggers really don't play the game and never have
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>>547935435
>tell others to stop crying when hes the same guy that throws a tantrum and review bombs the game anytime AH does something he doesn't like
lmao
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>>547935268
Are you just a fucking moron? Old OPS used to be able to kill heavies with just the radius explosion alone, because their HP pools got massively buffed in the 60 day patch.
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Im fucking horny again
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>>547935640
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1361210/Warhammer_40000_Darktide/
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>>547935613
stuns were actually super busted for a while too, like stun grenades and railgun could stun lock bile titans before OPS would hit them.
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>>547935760
stun nades and orbital EMS never worked on super heavies like BTs and tanks
You used them on hulks and chargers
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>>547935870
both stun nades and ems worked on bile titans around the time the arc thrower and teslas would crash the game
it was however a fairly brief window
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>>547935742
AH balanced all 10 modes just for you. Why aren't playing the game right now, Mr. shitter?
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Want a challenge?
Come home, White man.
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>>547935640
>crying about other people ruining his idea of fun
The irony of your statement is hilarious
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>>547935870
>stun nades and orbital EMS never worked on super heavies like BTs and tanks


https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Bile_Titan
Check the second to last change.
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>>547935608
That never happened pre buff patch, couldnt even kill a charger in one shot back then
>>547935613
Old OPS was worse, everything was worse, objectively. You can look at the numbers they're online
>>547935723
Never happened
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>>547935952
Go play Darktide
>>547935970
They dont want to admit it but Havoc unironically filters most Helldivers players. Only 0.01% of Darktides playerbase even beat Havoc 40 according to Fatsharks CEO. Its unironically what nerftrannies want but they wont play it because it filters the fuck out of them and they dont want to admit it.
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>>547936120
Nerftroon genuninely mindbroken, jesus
Keep denying reality
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>>547936116
>yeah dude everybody was running stun nades for the two weeks after launch
Nerftroons are extremely mentally deficient
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>>547876780
That would be a nice way to cull active mechs, having it so a Helldiver can "rearm" their mech charges by exploding their previous one.
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>>547936120
>That never happened pre buff patch, couldnt even kill a charger in one shot back then

genuine skissue.
OPS did 1000 damage. If you hit underneath the bile titan, everything would get hit by the explosive damage and multiply the effect.
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>>547936203
>Its unironically what nerftrannies want but they wont play it because it filters the fuck out of them and they dont want to admit it.
You're so stupid lmao. Hardcore players want a super hard mode for HD2. They don't want to play darktide. They want to play HD2 but with an actual hard mode. Why is your tiny little brain failing to comprehend that?
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>>547936237
Reality is that pre-buff OPS could not even kill a charger

I like all the buffs btw, I'm ashamed to share an opinion with actual retards like you who cannot read english properly
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>>547936357
Helldivers 2 isnt a hardcore game.
Go play Darktide if you want a hardcore game.
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>>547936261
and even the original point is still correct. Grenades sucked all across the board, the only grenade worth a fuck was stun grenade. People took GP (also because secondaries sucked) so they could take stun grenades and combo reds.
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>>547936397
Reality is that pre 60 day patch OPS would onehit chagers even with a near miss
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>>547936312
Yeah and it never killed it kek, genuine hallucinations from you fags
>>547936512
>forgetting pre-nerf impacts
Hello troon!
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>>547936447
It could be, but faggots like you want to keep the game as a party game/ LARP fantasy.
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>>547901239
>triple barrel heavy scythe.
wait a minute...
that's the trident!
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>>547936545
This really just comes off as a larp from the nerftroon. Like he's looking at the wiki and doesn't realize how OPS could kill chargers. GRANTED there was a point where their butts were immune to explosives and that did fuck you over occasionally.
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There is something to be said about heavies being nigh-useless these days, as a result of all the balance changes.

Nobody liked it when it took multiple AT rounds to kill a single Charger or Bile Titan, but part of that is just because heavy spam gets way out of control at higher difficulties (which the devs don't play at). We saw that rear its ugly head with the Charger Behemoth legging strats. It would be nice if heavies were actually impactful and forced you to focus them down any time they appeared, yet at the same time the players would complain if they lost a mission due to not bringing enough AT, not to mention the problem with heavy saturation at higher difficulties.

It kind of feels like they're trying to bring that back with the mega-heavies like the Leviathan, Dragonroach and Hive Lord. Yet at the same time those are not so very well implemented in many ways (they're optional to engage, they aren't well balanced, two of them are outright absent right now). And it still does nothing for the existing heavies which are about as strong as wet tissue in the face of all the AT options we have nowadays (AT Emplacement and Portable Hellbomb trivialize so many of them).
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>>547936545
Kek at all these reddit clip tourists, can you find one (1) video of a charger or bile titan being one shotted by an OPS on launch?
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>>547936641
>It could be,
Nobody asked.
Go play Darktide for your 1337 gamer hardcore experience or stop crying.
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No more (You)s for you, go be retarded somewhere else nerfnigger
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The bile titan is a chaff unit.
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>>547936120
I accept your concession.
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what if there was a laser version of the coyote
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>>547936802
>>547936812
seething bufftrannies and gamer dads desperately attacking anybody for requesting a smidge of difficultly in a co op horde shooter.
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>>547936641
>nerftroon vision is complete, all weapons suck shit and don't kill anything
>you need to be properly sneaky and precise to even kill a devastator
>begin my epic sneak mission
>enemy sees me through a hill
>throw my 500kg
>it fails to take out the fabricator
>i am instantly one shot through a wall by a missile
>my mutilated penis starts oozing puss of joy as I wait to respawn
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>>547936993
Go play Darktide if you want a difficulty Horde shooter.
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>>547936854
It used to be, remember when OPS and 500kg would just hurt it a little, and RR did nothing. The devs had a nerftranny meltdown shortly after launch after people did trad colonial gunlines of the railgun and melted Bile Titans. The game never recovered from that as tons of people realized what retards made this game and moved on. The nerf trannies remain though, seething that people want to fight enemies in this horde shooter
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>>547937026
>buff toddler resorts to hyperbole as usual
kek, Release HD2 was just that traumatizing for ya, huh little guy?
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>>547936714
theres a couple issues.

One, people just don't wanna bring AT blues like rockets. It's boring. And the AT options outside of that are woefully underpowered. Nothing is on par with heavy spawn rates at higher difficulty outside of EAS and 120 but that only really works on bugs.

Two, I'd say heavy spam is ultimately the same. The only reason it doesn't feel so bad is because people are capable of killing biletitans. Most bile titan trains were due to multiple pulls and breaches, and people just indefinitely running from shit that never de-aggroed.

Three, I'd say heavies are incredibly impactful like warstriders / impalers. The problem is that most heavies mechanically just force you to zone them. Which breaks AI interractions as no faction can really do anything about zoning outside getting close to you.


Honestly I would say AT is overtuned, which forces players to take instant fix answers to deal with them. Like ironically the more killy you make tanks, the more people will insta kill them.
The meta is pretty weighted towards killing masses of heavies right now, while chaff are pretty much an afterthought or collateral to everything else you throw.
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>>547937238
Not really
>Bug strategy: Just walk past them and do all the objectives
>Bot strategy: Autocannon and cover
It was trivial. The difficulty is the same, only difference is more weapons and armors are viable
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>>547937173
Nerftrannies never recovered from the railgun nerf. Even to this day they still seethe about it. Its really sad.
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I know we're on the tail end of Broketober and No-money-vember and things are looking grimmer by the hour but there's really nothing to worry about. In just a few short days December will be here, and with the festive cheer will come new botched pseudo content to mock swiggers eternally for. I for one am enjoying the wait.
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>>547937039
I'm brown and proud and I don't wanna pay for it. Either buy it for me or make this game hard instead. Chop chop white bitch.
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>>547932218
All that I want changed:
>weapons balanced and designed to have more distinct identifies
>squids to be fun
>direct nerfs to the handful of equipment that is very much overtuned
>rebalancing of boosters, primarily the vast amount of underperformers
>a significant expansion of the mission modifiers system, where missions can roll multiple positive and negative modifiers (on top of planet modifiers)
>more types of missions that are actually unique, and not just a reskin of existing missions
>more biomes that aren't recolors of existing biomes
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>>547937418
can't wait for another slopbond that's allowed to have 1 (one) good item at most
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>>547937348
>It was trivial. The difficulty is the same, only difference is more weapons and armors are viable
Nice, we are in agreement then. The game is too easy.
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>>547937480
Before its nerfed because discord troons are mentally ill freaks
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>>547935415
idk, most people use Ultimatum as their pocket AT 2 (thermites are pocket AT 1)
I'd rather they just made it AP3 and maybe increased it's range a little in exchange
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>>547937425
If youre poor then go play vermintide 2. Its 95% off right now.
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>>547937558
AH only buffs the player and nerfs the enemy now. Have you played any in the past year? Everything is toddler mode now made for mongoloids.
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>>547937642
That game was FREE for 3 days straight.
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>>547937173
I think it's funny, it's like
>make a hyper meta around spawning nigh infinite heavies
>players use the most efficient tools to mass kill these heavies

It's like balancing your game around what is effectively a joke difficulty. Honestly if AH had anyway to introduce challenge outside of gear checks, this wouldn't have happened.
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>>547937550
It's always been easy, missions have always had a steady 80-90% victory rate since launch. Oshuane is the only planet where that dipped noticeably low. The difference is the game is more fun now because we have the tools to engage enemies rather than avoid them. If they buff the shit out of enemies and nerf our weapons (again) we can always go back to avoiding them and playing terminal and button pressing simulator
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>>547937703
>AH only buffs the player and nerfs the enemy now
Another nerftroon hyperbole. You sure love throwing these around while accusing everybody else of doing it.
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>>547937550
NOOOOOOO SUPER TRIVIAL BABYMODE GAMEPLAY IS NOT POINTLESS OR BORING BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT OKAY????
DOWNBOOT
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE LOW SODIUM WTF HOW DO I DOWNBOOT THIS
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>>547932498
Not a nerftroon these are just things that would make the game better.
>>547932584
>>547933005
They're specific enough because surprise surprise, most "nerftroons" just want the game to be more engaging at higher levels, they don't want the game to feel bad to play and for us to go back to launch levels of buggy and ineffective weapons. You can have OP weapons with complex objectives and smarter enemies and the game will be better for it.
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>>547937827
>WAAAAAAAH THE COYOTE TAKES ONE EXTRA ROUND TO SET ENEMIES ON FIRE!!! SEE!! THEY STILL NERF THE PLAYER!!!
Meanwhile that same update completely neutered elevated overseers, dragon roaches, fleshmobs, and war striders.
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>>547938135
>we nerftroons are calm and reasonable folx who just want an challenging game :)
>FUARK IS THAT AN AR THAT IS....GOOD?
>NERF NERF NERF FUARK IM DILATING SWEDEN SAVE MEEEEEEEEE
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>>547937772
It was, yeah, now its only like 1.49 USD
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>>547937827
>AH only buffs the player
Do you understand the meaning of the world "only"?
There are still player nerfs happening, no matter how hard you abuse your capslock.
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>>547938309
You need to be BLACKED.
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>>547938309
The coyote is still very, very strong so why are you seething and dilating right now?
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>>547937794
It's funny that almost every other developer has figured this out, and that they could've reached out of they just... tweaked heavy spawns at launch.
Them making heavy units a constant, omnipresent that that you couldn't get rid of for any noticeable amount of time was the problem, not the fact that they were heavy.
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>>547938174
>neutered
>overseers and flesh mobs have slightly less health
>dragon roaches can't fly without wings anymore
>war striders have small medium pen precision points, much like the entire bot faction design
Nerftroons are retarded
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>>547938309
We had good ARs before. you just contain too many monkey genes to use them right.
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>>547938459
>NERF IS PLEASE HELP ME THAT AR JUST KILLED A TERMINID WARRIOR THIS CANNOT BE
>NERF FIRE
>NERF MEDIUM AR DURABLE DAMAGE
>NERF HANDLING
>NERF IT SAVE ME AIIIEIEIEIEE
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>>547938494
>implying that weak enemies becoming even weaker is somehow not being "neutered"
You didn't actually struggle with elevated overseers before the nerf, right? You're not actually that bad, right?!
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Nerftroon really struggles with understanding the meaning of words, huh
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>>547932218
My list.

Gas Grenades: Lowered to 3 uses, Deal 10 damage per tick instead of 25. Doesn't close holes.
Supply Pack: Split between a medipack that heals the user and allies, and an ammo pack that increases the user's ammo capacity and can refill allies when they press E on it.
Purifier: Half the mags, or make it use more ammo when fully charged.

Then I'd buff chaff a bit more.
Mostly up health values for medium units
I'd rework dev shields to be ap3 and breakable, but I'd increase their health (removing durability though) and set their heads to ap2.
I'd halve warstrider spawns but double their groin/joint/leg health.

I'd also rework armor to not slow the player down, but increase their stamina drain. Just so you can dodge things easilly, but you have to be more mindful of your stamina usage.
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>>547938656
When is the last time you actually failed a D10 mission? Be honest, buff tranny.
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>>547938669
Did you? Seems you considered them difficult to handle before if they're "neutered" now (same damage and mobility, just slightly less health)
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>>547938718
bufftroon*

>>547938734
Bufftrannies would review bomb the game and shit their diapers if you implemented even one of those changes.
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>>547938817
Bout a week ago
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>>547938913
My previous post already listed those enemies as being weak. Please learn to read Mr, bufftroon.
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>>547938972
Considering nerftroon doesn't understand what "only" or "neutered" actually mean, it's pretty clear that he can't comprehend the meaning of words and just vomits hyperbolic nonsense into his posts without even understanding what he says.
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>>547938972
>insidious nerftroons keep trying to make the game boring and unfun
>buffGODS beat nerftroons up whenever they try
>buff patches come out
>game does well
>nerf patches come out
>game dies
>nerftroons cannot see the correlation
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>>547939131
Jesus Christ! how?! Has AH not catered enough to your demographic already? Do you need another 60 day buff patch?
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>>547938817
not that bufftoddler but I remember exactly, it was a bugdive on a random shithole when the gas mines finally became reqable and the whole squad went mine maxing
and that's really the only excuse any squad of non-retards can have for failing a d10, well that and giga unfinished nonsense like getting your oil truck smashed by redditlord
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>>547939138
You said neutered, which means they were not weak and then made weak. Words have meanings, nerftranny
>>547939309
I still play, most otbuffGODS are waiting for new content to try our cool guns on.
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>>547939307
>the game would die if actual hard modes were added for the hardcore players.
Why can't bad players just play on lower difficulties, Mr. bufftroon?
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Supply pack shouldn't get refilled by the supply pod, I don't understand how the realism obsessed swedes let resource duplication slip into their autistic game
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>>547939309
By playing sub-optimally because I'm not a meta nig, nerftroon. Buff patches are nice because they give lots of weapons viability, though I know trannoids are all about optimization and speedruns (they like dying fast irl too) so the idea of playing a weaker weapon evades you
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>>547939516
Bufftrannies would review bomb the game(again) and shit their diapers if the supply pack was nerfed.
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>>547939494
muh sensitive ego bruises from trying d11 but getting rekt & told to l2p
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>>547939657
>nerfschizo getting mad at things happening in his head again
take your meds
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>>547939516
they were under the impression that the supply pack was going to be used on your teammates, and encourage a sense of teamwork by one person choosing to be the designated supply man

we're still at the point in this game's life where people don't even look at teammate loadouts before picking theirs
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>>547939494
They can and do, not everyone is a meta abusing tranny that knows every exploit from their grooming discord.
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>>547939639
>he thinks i don't use sub optimal loadouts either.
Stock gear can wipe D10 with little issue, Mr. Bufftroon. Its sad that you actually lost a D10 mission with the current balancing.
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>>547939824
>stock gear
>sub optimal
Nerftroons really have no idea how the game works, do they?
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>>547939806
>you have to abuse meta loadouts to beat D10
Way to tell on yourself, shitter. Very sad and pathetic on your part.
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>>547939516
>have empty supply pack
>call down resupply
>grab a big yellow box, refill a pack charge
>drop my pack
>mate picks it up, takes his big resupply, two pack charges refilled
>rinse and repeat twice
>everyone stacked, full supply pack for free
>enough ammo for half the mission from one shitty pod
this worked since launch btw and it'll be the go-to again once supply trannies are deprived of their exploit
this game is such a joke when it really doesn't need to be, swedes actually balance for reddit updoots holy shit
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>>547939971
Interesting, i had no idea the liberator and peacemaker were top tier. Are you sure you're just not an ignorant little tranny retard?
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>>547939980
Are all nerftroons retarded thirdies? Can you read and comprehend english? That's not what I said at all
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>>547940140
>he thinks the liberator isn't top tier
Have nerftroons unironically not switched off of their discord loadouts EVER?
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>>547940196
Learn to read your own posts, holy shit you are dumb.
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>>547940363
You failed to comprehend anything I wrote, try again Jose!
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>>547940349
Compared to the eruptor and purifier? Stop being dishonest, retard.
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>>547938734
Oh I'd also make staff overseers slightly more tanky. I'd fix the left/right limb break thing not killing them (if they didn't do this already.)
I'd also make their melee attack launch the player further, but they follow up with a charged shot instead of just spamming melee.
I'd rework their AI to rely on the shield more often. I'd lower their stagger thresholds slightly so melee weapons can stagger them more reliably.

I'd give harvesters an attack pattern that "ionizes the air" but make it come out faster with a better telegraph. Sweep up and down, then left and right.
The entire path of the beam would be visible with a semi-solid sheet of blue light, so allies that might get hit dodge it too.


Bugs are more or less the same.

Behemoths I'd rework, to have substantially less durable health on their armor, but be harder to one shot with rockets.
I'd probably do something like 3000 ap3 side armor with low durable health, then I'd tone down recoiless to 2500 damage so it retains most other breakpoints.

Alpha Commanders wouldn't get staggered by base melee, as it's pretty easy to just headshot and then ignore them.

Rupture strain would be immune to explosive damage when underground,
but would never go back underground after being unearthed.
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>>547939516
>>547939786
Changes to Supply Pack:

1. It only gets restocked if the wearer's current supplies are over the 75% mark upon picking up a resupply. Otherwise it restocks the wearer and doesn't increment the Supply Pack until the next pickup.

2. Dipping into your own supply only restocks 1 grenade, 1 stim, and 25% of your ammo. The Ultimatum specifically cannot get restocked by dipping into your own backpack.
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>>547940514
>eruptors are slapping bile titans across the map!
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>>547932218
AP5 Hulks. Only Spear can kill with body shots, RR/EATs/QC need to go for the legs. Same for the War Striders
Faster lasers and missiles for all bots so you can't dodge them
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>>547940662
Not what i said.
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>>547938734
>pointless gas grenade nerf
>pointless supply pack nerf (supplies are near infinite anyway)
>pointless purifier nerf
>buff enemy medium health for no reason
>nerf devs for some reason
>pointless warstrider change
>armor buff
>>547940538
>nerf staff overseer to do less damage and be less threatening because more health = more fun (according to melty brained nerftroons)
>first, actual enemy buff in the entire list (agree)
>behemoth nerf
>melee nerf (kek)
>rupture strain nerf

So...this is how nerftroons would make the game better
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>>547940978
Speed isn't the problem, low accuracy is

Nerftroons dont even play the game KEK
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>>547925454
>fucked around with the durability of most enemies
warriors, hive guard, devastators, nursing spewers, and bile spewers are "most enemies" now? because that's all they changed

also hey guess what? fire doesn't care about durability since it has a 100% durable damage ratio
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>>547941139
>why are you rebalancing you're supposed to be just nerfing
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>>547941351
>nerfed fire so it doesn't actually do damage to most enemies
Flamethrower can't even prevent a warrior from stabbing you btw
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>>547941351
>warriors, hive guard, devastators, nursing spewers, and bile spewers are "most enemies" now?


yes actually.
That basically covers all chaff outside hunters/scavs/troopers on the two fronts.
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I think a fun and easy way to make the game harder and encourage teamwork would be to
>Get rid of resupplies
>Make it so you can't use reds or greens reliably
>Extremely limited reinforcement budget
Hey wait a minute...
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>>547941423
>"rebalance"
>functionally the same in every way
Tell me, how does "give the enemies more health but less damage" make for interesting gameplay? This is a fundamental problem with nerftroons, they are low iq and think big HP = big difficulty = more fun.
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>>547941281
AH permanently destroyed the AI so they'll never fix it, the only remaining option is making the projectiles deadlier
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>>547929947
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>>547941627
Oshuane was kino, a shame they're sticking with this "narrative" that only a few trannoids on discord care about. Just open up all the content already

Whatever happened to the light / medium / heavy armor debate? Did all the lightrannies kill themselves already?
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>>547941627
We need a blue screen of death stratagem that has a 50/50 chance of either deleting all enemies caught in its radius or crashing your game
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if the weapons were weak super earth wouldn't make them

why would you adopt a gun that doesn't kill things?
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>>547935268
Bait or mental retardation?
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>>547942067
Swedish appeal to trannies. To the troon, the world gave them a body that doesn't "work" so they assume everything else functions the same way as them.
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>>547942067
SE is hypercapitalist, so all weapons are made by the lowest bidder. Weapons being bad would be a logical consequence of muh parody
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>>547941637
Aite

>>547941139
>pointless gas grenade nerf
Stops it from killing all chaff and instead requires followup with the rest of your kit.

>pointless supply pack nerf (supplies are near infinite anyway)
It would split them in half, so players that want survivability wouldn't get ammo, and ammo wouldn't get survivability. The supply pack makes you far to self sufficient, that you can just stim through everything and spam ultimatum at every target.

>pointless purifier nerf
The ammo on the purifier makes it more ammo efficient than any other explosive weapon. You get 15 shots and 6 mags. That is 90 shots. 3 times as many as the eruptor. Reducing the ammo efficiency and mag count would make scorcher more competitive as a pure plasma dealing weapon. Frankly I'd make it only charge up too as low fire shots skirt the downside too much.

>buff enemy medium health for no reason
Medium chaff is so much of a joke in this game that anti-chaff consists of about 25% of your kit. This is also why I'd tone down gas nades as they can solo breaches by themselves typically.


>nerf devs for some reason
AP2 pretty much shits on them, so upping their head health reduces breakpoints on every ap2 weapon in half nearly. It also gives ap3 more viability if people really want to take those shots. Shields would be ap3 so that machine gun and HMG which are supposed to counter them are viable answers.

>pointless warstrider change
One of the biggest issues with warstriders is that they spawn too frequently and spread out your shots. Making them more of a single target bullet sponge means they're more efficient to deal with stuns and focussed fire. This also solves the issue of them covering eachother all the time.
[Cont]
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>>547942067
If the enemies were easily disposed of the bots wouldn't field them
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>>547941893
>50/50 chance of either deleting all enemies caught in its radius or crashing your game
thats all of them for me right now
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>>547942321
all military arms are made by the lowest bidder but being able to kill shit is still the floor

>>547942375
>if soldiers weren't ied-proof armies wouldn't field them
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>>547942337
>Stops it from killing all chaff and instead requires followup with the rest of your kit.
>chaff killing grenades shouldn't kill chaff
Retarded change, makes them never-takes
>supply pack changes matter!
>as if every map doesn't have tons of free ammo and grenades all around
>ammo effiency being a problem
>in infinite ammo game
>medium chaff health is the problem
Their low damage is the problem, medium chaff health was JUST buffed as well and the game is still the same
>makes ap3 more viable
medium weapons have always been viable, you just want to nerf light weapons (again)
>bullet sponge good
Nerftroons are retarded
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>>547942616
Bots are literally machines built for war, there's no reason for them to be as squishy as meatbags.
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so whats the best credit farming method nowadays?
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>>547941637

>armor buff
Mostly just a mulling thought I had because the game makes heavy armor unable to reposition well, one of the few ways to mitigate damage is to reposition quickly.

>nerf staff overseer to do less damage and be less threatening because more health = more fun (according to melty brained nerftroons)
Mostly to test the waters and give them more of an identity as a tankier unit compared to the flying overseers. The spear spam is basically just a coin flip if it kills you, and forces players to stim before getting hit.


>>first, actual enemy buff in the entire list (agree)
aite

>behemoth nerf
They'd be more resilliant to one shot rockets, and would be more susceptible to alternative means to kill them. This would shake up the meta outside of just spamming rockets on every heavy. Could lower the breakpoint down to 2600 though so you could crack them with a rocket and then an ap3 primary to mix things up.

>melee nerf (kek)
Direct melee, I'd make them stay under machette/hatchet stagger force though.

>rupture strain nerf
50/50. They'd have armor effectively against major explosions. Could have them reduce range of explosion damage nearby similar to going prone (or just give them an inbuilt explosive resilliance of like 80%) so you can unearth them with explosives but you need something else to kill them. Would also make them substantially more tanky to meta pick weapons like most explosive weapons.
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>>547942835
>Retarded change, makes them never-takes
>it's pointless
>actually it's too much of a nerf

They're hybrid CC grenades. They would kill lite chaff but they wouldn't kill warrior health enemies. Use fire if you want that.

>as if every map doesn't have tons of free ammo and grenades all around
>ammo effiency being a problem
>in infinite ammo game

Okay then this will remove a crutch and only enable builds that rely on ammo.

>Their low damage is the problem, medium chaff health was JUST buffed as well and the game is still the same

Disagree, medium chaff feels a lot more oppressive on bugs now.

>medium weapons have always been viable, you just want to nerf light weapons (again)
light pen has gotten nothing but buffs and is extremely strong. The only ap3 weapons that are good just circumvent durability.

>bullet sponge good
>Nerftroons are retarded

Sometimes they're better than just having a ton of weaker spawning enemies.
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>>547942616
Bots are machines. At this point they should have been upgraded enough to be Terminator-tier, or at least capable of fully neutralizing the Helldivers
War Striders being tanky, spammy pieces of shit that could ragdoll you to death just made sense
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>>547942164
>increase health and damage of enemies
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>>547942908
>armor buff
Heavy armor is fine
>make staff overseers ebin tanks!
Fleshmobs do that already, staff overseer identity is the a surge-tank which you cannot get near
>behemoth nerf
People will just shoot more rockets at it, not shoot one rocket then start shooting it with another gun
>direct melee nerf
Already consume stamina and locks you in place, if you are melee'ing an alpha commander it is in a 1v1 scenario, otherwise you are dead
>rupture strain nerf
Wouldn't make them more tanky, basically turns them into an enemy patrol that gets to spawn next to you.
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>>547943370
>ragdoll you to death just made sense
Thats not how lasers work
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>>547942856
Every time you get hit, smack your computer with a hammer. There's your difficulty.
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Why do nerftrannies constantly beg for nefs? Stop picking meta loadouts and choose trash tier weapons if you want the game to be more "difficult" and play in a private lobby
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Name one coop shooter that doesn't increase enemy hp/damage/numbers as you go up in difficulty
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>>547943757
They literally can't, the tranny mind is incapable of self-restaint, its why they cut their dicks off in the name of a fetish
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>>547943540
>People will just shoot more rockets at it, not shoot one rocket then start shooting it with another gun
Like they shoot multiple rockets at legs? People would learn the break point, or yeah just spam rockets.
AP3 and ap4 weapons though would be able to crack into them efficiently.


>Already consume stamina and locks you in place, if you are melee'ing an alpha commander it is in a 1v1 scenario, otherwise you are dead
my man there is no way in hell you think meleeing an alpha deathcharging you is hard or a bad trade. It is instant and most of the time it bumps them off to make space while other enemies get stuck behind it.

>Wouldn't make them more tanky, basically turns them into an enemy patrol that gets to spawn next to you.
they're already like that if you don't have explosives. Having an enemy that is hyper resilliant to explosive damage, but gets unearthed by explosives would be a net neutral trade off for their design.
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>>547943757
D10 is easy even with "trash" tier weapons. You would already know this if you weren't a shitter who only uses meta weapons.
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>>547943757
We had this "discussion" a million times, nerftroon wants the game to be difficult even when running a meta loadout because it doesn't count as difficult if he has to create the difficulty himself by limiting himself to non-meta pick. At least in his deranged world.
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>>547943757
What if i want to use the liberator and AC but still want the game to be hard?
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>>547943963
>hp/damage
Helldivers 2, and its a major selling point. Makes the game feel more real and tactical to know how enemies work, you just have to deal with more and a greater number and variety as the difficulty goes up
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Niggers, your opinions don't matter. Only swedeniggers decide which enemy / weapon needs a nerf or a buff.
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>>547944012
>nerftroon wants the game to be difficult even when running a meta loadout because it doesn't count as difficult if he has to create the difficulty himself by limiting himself to non-meta pick.


not even a nerftroon, but what's wrong with this?
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>>547944035
Pretend its nerftrannies paradise and its trash tier.
>>547943992
>Projecting and deflecting
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>>547944218
There is nothing wrong with it. Bufftrannies literally just want the game to be a power fantasy with no challenge regardless of difficulty selection.
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>>547944012
>game is a gear check game
>bring the right gear
>Game is too easy

>purposefully bring the wrong gear
>game is just obnoxious if not unbeatable due to enemies simply requiring certain answers to beat them
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>>547943757
>Stop picking meta loadouts and choose trash tier weapons
I already do. The game still manages to kill me or my teammates exactly 0 times
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>>547944218
Nothing.
In an ideal game the highest difficulity is designed pretty much exclusivly for no life autist to suffer in, and then normal people have their pick of difficulity they enjoy between that and baby mode.
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>>547944124
technically not true. on D1 to D3 hunters have less limb health and warriors have less main and head health. No other enemy on any other front has low health variants exclusively to low difficulty.
yes this does mean that bugs are the faction with an literal actual easy mode.
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>>547944218
>>547944558
>not even a nerftroon, but what's wrong with this?
Because its not good for the game or add meaningful difficulty.
NErftrannies idea of "hard" just means "The enemy takes 5 rockets instead of 4"
And heres the best part, not even nerftrannies want this otherwise they wouldnt pick meta weapons all the time. If you nerfed everything, nerftrannies will just find the new meta and then complain how the game is too easy again and repeat the cycle.
Nerftrannies are just metatrannies when you really dissect their thought process
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>>547943757
Some people exist to solve logic problems, and video games are effectively large logic problems. Combine this with autism where change is unwelcome and they have trouble letting go, even after they've solved the game. The only way to keep playing and still be satisfied is for them to be given new problems to solve in the framework they're familiar with.
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>>547944654
Honestly I'd just like to see the game reward building smartly while still offering a challenge. Like "OP" shit should be required to beat higher difficulties.
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>>547944218
It shows that he doesn't give a shit about playing a difficult game. He could if he wanted to by just running off-meta gear or going solo.
He wants difficulty for the sake of difficulty.For his sick gamer cred or maybe just to shitpost here until the end of time because he knows that AH won't give into nerftroons anytime soon.
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>>547944826
All that you typed is meaningless because a super hard would be 100% optional. But we can't have optimal hard modes because redditors and trannies throw a shit fit when they can't beat the top modes.
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>>547944826
You could just lower the difficulty if it's not fun for you
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>>547945047
You could just raise the difficulty by running non-meta loadouts if you wanted to.
But you don't want to.
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>>547944391
And it is if they lower the difficulity.
There is literally no reason to ever be a bufftodler.
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>>547945120
>You could just raise the difficulty by running non-meta loadouts if you wanted to.
People already do this on D10 and its still a snooze fest. Why do you keep failing to understand this you dishonest piece of shit?
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>>547945284
Then go play solo with off-meta loadouts. But I guess that too is a snoozefest for a supreme gamer god like yourself.
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>>547944826
Uh huh. Anyways, why isn't the game allowed to kill me?
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>>547944951
>because a super hard would be 100% optional
So is you picking meta weapons all the time. Take your own advice. And being disingenuous like you dont want player power to be nerfed isnt going to help you win. Its predictable and manipulative. Helldivers 2 will never be your perfect sweatlord game because the way the game is design just isnt designed or built to be played like that. Get over this weird delusion that Helldivers 2 was always meant to be some sweaty hardcore game because of the pre-60 day buff patch.
Arrowhead didnt nerf things to make the game "harder" they did it off some flawed and barely coherent "grunt fantasy" where youre meant to fail missions and die a lot because its supposed to be "funny" and Star Wars Stormtroopers or something. Helldivers 2 isnt aiming at the "Hardcore" audience and never was. If you want a hardcore coop game, go play Darktide or Vermintide.
>>547945047
Go play Darktide if you want a hardcore game.
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>>547944826
>>547945120
Is there any bigger shitter self report projection than the classic "you only think the game is too easy because you only use what's meta!" post? Completely incapable of imagining people being able to perform well without using meta picks because they themselves have to use the meta to not suck shit.
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>>547945497
A nerftrannies paradise is only having a few weapons be usable. Nerftrannies by their nature love metas.
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>>547945497
t. meta crutcher getting carried by 3 level 150 squaddies while he tells himself that the game is too easy
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>>547945397
What if i like meta guns and coop gameplay but also want challenging gameplay?
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>>547945397
Game is meant to be played 4 people

>>547945435
>Get over this weird delusion that Helldivers 2 was always meant to be some sweaty hardcore game because of the pre-60 day buff patch.
Arrowhead didnt nerf things to make the game "harder" they did it off some flawed and barely coherent "grunt fantasy" where youre meant to fail missions and die a lot because its supposed to be "funny" and Star Wars Stormtroopers or something. Helldivers 2 isnt aiming at the "Hardcore" audience and never was. If you want a hardcore coop game, go play Darktide or Vermintide.
What will your cope be when AH actually does add a super hard mode?
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>>547945625
>>547945668
>seething discord bufftrannies resort to insults and strawman arguments after being called out
typical.
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>>547945685
>>547945727
If you love difficulty so much, then it should be more important to you than coop and meta crutches
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>>547945934
Coop is harder than solo.
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>>547945914
Hit a nerve, huh
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As someone that beat Havoc 40 and has "True Survivor" and beat the twins on the hardest difficulty, I can say with 100% confidence that Helldivers 2 was never meant to be a hard game.
The game clearly isnt built with this idea in mind that only the sweatiest of sweats can beat it. People that get mad at the game being easy because they need to flex their ego honestly need to play a different game.
>>547945727
>What will your cope be when AH actually does add a super hard mode?
They already said they have no interest in that. If you want a super hard mode, pick shitty weapons and play in a private lobby.
>>547945914
>Using "le logical fallacy!" as an argument
Not an argument. You lost.
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>>547932015
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I don't use meta loadouts. I think the game is too easy. What now faggots?
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>>547946148
>As someone that beat Havoc 40 and has "True Survivor" and beat the twins on the hardest difficulty, I can say with 100% confidence that Helldivers 2 was never meant to be a hard game.
The game clearly isnt built with this idea in mind that only the sweatiest of sweats can beat it. People that get mad at the game being easy because they need to flex their ego honestly need to play a different game.
Why are you playing this game if it offers zero challenge but you yourself are capable of a real challenge? Is HD2 just a party game or literal power fantasy for you?
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>>547946290
Post video of soloing D10 with 0 deaths and a complete non-meta loadout or fuck off
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>>547946368
>Why are you playing this game if it offers zero challenge but you yourself are capable of a real challenge?
Its an abstract concept called "The game is enjoyable"
You think I need to constantly "prove" myself is honestly way more telling of you than me. I dont need to constantly satiate my ego for brownie points on the internet. I do something because I enjoy it, not to "prove" myself to internet strangers.
You'll understand this when you grow up.
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>>547946507
easy game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2876wPUr94
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>>547946271
Anime website.
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>>547946635
>blitz
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>>547946635
>supply pack
>erad
meta pick, vid invalid
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>>547946597
A game with no challenge is not enjoyable unless its something like stardew valley. Otherwise its weird playing a game like HD2 if there's no chance of failure.
>You'll understand this when you grow up.
Says the middle aged failure posting on a 4chan general.
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>>547946597
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>>547946635
>supply pack
>stun smg
Anon...
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>>547946782
Shut up, nerf tranny. Stop being an elitist.
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>>547946787
>A game with no challenge is not enjoyable unless its something like stardew valley.
Youre projecting your own idea of "fun" onto me. Is playing fetch with my dog difficult? No, I do it because its fun to play with my dog.
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>>547946787
maybe you should play some hardcore niche game if ballbusting difficulty is the only way you can enjoy a game instead of you trying to force your fetish on everyone else
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>>547946597
But you could do that on lower difficulities.
Why would you care if higher difficulities are to hard or not fun if lower difficulities hit just the right spot?
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>>547946635
unironically why gas needs a nerf.
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>>547946806
>>547946597
pathetic samefag

>>547946871
Shut up, bufftroon.
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>>547947090
Nothing you said had any relevance to what I said. Youre arguing about an entirely different conversation you had in your head.
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>>547947039
lower the difficulty. there's 9 other levels you can pick if the 10th is too hard for you
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>>547947267
raise the difficulty by going solo with non-meta loadouts
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>>547947001
That's cool and all but if hard modes are optional then why do you get so upset? Why can't hardcore players have their own modes without retards like you throwing a tantrum? I'm starting to think you lied about beating havoc on dakrtide. You're a middle aged doggy parent with no wife or children. SAD.

>>547947090
He doesn't have an actual answer to your post.
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Hit your computer with a hammer every time you get hit if the game is too easy for you, niggers.
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>>547947169
I'm saying that if you have no urge to challange yourself and just want to enjoy the gameplay you can go down to D7.
And if D10 is to hard where 4 people might find it enjoyable that's fine because everyone else has 9 difficulities to pick from.
So why is this a problem?
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>>547947474
Nice deflection, pet parent.
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Supplypack-hating trannies are the worst.

>want to play with fun gun
>gun doesn't come with the amount of ammo needed for enemies at D10
>resupply strat every couple minutes still insufficient for mowing down hordes
I couldn't care less about the stims. I don't usually take enough damage to use them all in anyway. I want the packs for more ammo to achieve optimal bug/bot death neuron stimulation. Worry about your own loadout and seethe about something else, faggots. Go back to the AMR vs AC crybaby loop or something.
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>>547947478
>why do you get so upset?
What am I upset about? Im content with the game. Youre telling me how you need to prove yourself to strangers on the internet and how you dont like how Helldivers 2 plays.
Again, youre projecting onto me.
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>>547947697
>gun doesn't come with the amount of ammo needed for enemies at D10
Stopped reading there. go back, shitter.
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>>547947697
>I couldn't care less about the stims.
I think this is why everyone says they should just split the packs
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>>547947697
Have you tried picking up the virtually infinite ammo off the ground?
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Play the game

D10
Bots or bugs

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243985195323/76561197999417031
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>>547947635
>I'm saying that if you have no urge to challange yourself
So you think me completing Havoc 40 and the twins on the hardest difficulty is me having no urge to challenge myself? Okay.
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>>547947697
>gun doesn't come with the amount of ammo needed for enemies at D10
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>>547947898
not every map is a town map
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>>547947835
>I don't play above D6 : The Post

>>547947898
have you tried playing on a map that isn't a city?
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>>547947820
You were upset enough to start talking about your dog. All pet parents starting mentioning their dogs when they get a little bit stressed. Its an obvious coping mechanism. But besides that point you keep dodging the question. If super hard modes are optional then why can't HD2 have super modes? It wouldn't affect you because it would be optional. Darktide has optional modes so why can't HD2? its obvious you're lying about beating havoc btw.
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>he needs a supply pack when there's free ammo laying everywhere
>the game is too easy for him when he only ever plays with a full squad, meta loadout and bots instead of soloing at any point
Glad I don't doo this shitter stuff.
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>>547948204
>You were upset enough to start talking about your dog.
?????
>All pet parents starting mentioning their dogs when they get a little bit stressed.
Youre projecting again
>If super hard modes are optional then why can't HD2 have super modes?
I already answered this in the post your first started replying to me with. Youre not even reading what I'm writing.
This conversation is over.
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>>547948297
You're confusing a nerftroon with a bufftranny.
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>>547948035
take any of the MGs, railgun, speargun, or the GL and let's see how fast you run out of ammo, chud. You must be one of those POI farmers or a solofag who runs off and let's your team take care of everything for you.
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>>547947994
We're talking about helldivers here not shopclick.
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>>547948338
You sound stressed! make sure to feed your heckin doggo and give him many pets! Too bad you don't have a real family :(
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>>547947985
no really, come play the game... in here
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>>547948396
They're both trash.
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>>547948547
Not an argument.
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Jammer Gunships. Jammer Hulks
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>>547948297
>free ammo laying everywhere
oh look a city map tourist who needs to play a certain map in order to compliment his loadout choices
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>>547947985
Do none of you play the game anymore? Are you holding out for the warbond just to be disappointed yet again?
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>>547949031
probably a squiggerfag lol. That whole faction is a crutch for shitters to complete missions
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>>547948840
It is, you should fuck off posting off topic shit, retard.
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>>547947985
lobby cancelled. Dead game dead thread
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>>547949430
>American reading comp
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>>547947985
>>547949521
Nobody wants to play anymore because the game is too easy and boring.
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>Personal unresolved trauma manifesting as a desire to constantly "prove" oneself in a video game
This needs to be studied. Very interesting phenomena here.
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>>547949526
Are you actually this upset i don't give you the brownie points for your ego for shopclick,the same brownie points you claimed you didn't care about btw.
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>>547949724
>Reading comp so bad he doesnt understand what a comparison is
Jesus H. Christ....
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>>547949031
LMAO Even on megacity maps I know where to look. You guys are just absolutely shit at the game.
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>>547946635
>Supply pack
>Ultimatum
>Trooncore music
>Comments turned off
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>>547948957
>enemies that can be killed with a single AT round or the right primary

And this serves what purpose?
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>>547949031
>he cant find ammo on non city maps
self report
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We need enemies that eat 6 RR rockets, instagib you, fly, have near perfect accuracy, ragdoll on the rare time they miss you, see the entire map and instantly respawn when killed
this will save the game
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>>547950649
That's just pre-nerf leviathans
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>>547950649
That's just pre nerf leviathan.
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>>547950649
Anon that is just pre-nerf leviathans.
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>>547950170
They replace all Gunship and Hulk spawns
Gunship patrols back
Gunship Fabricators always keep a Gunship patrol above them
Also Jammer mines, they disable your stratagem pad for a minute if you step on them, after that your codes are permanently scrambled until you die
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>>547949526
don't you love it when the browns identify themselves by assuming everyone they get into an argument with is American?
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>>547949674
Oh so you just come to argue with jeets in a thread for game you don't play all day?
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>>547950649
from what im hearing, that is just pre nerf leviathans
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>>547951425
The dude admitted to playing shopclick.
That's all the info you need to identify him as a darkie.
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>>547950649
>leviathans get nerfed
>game dies
Interesting...
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>>547935613
claiming stun didnt work early on is wild, pretty sure the first arc weapons were some of the earliest (egregious) nerfs, if i remember correctly you could stun lock BT's with them. though any anon can correct me if i'm just misremembering
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>>547951425
>>547951715

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>>547952072
Yeah, I remember that the arc thrower got nerfed because "it slapped bile titans across the map" according to the eternal serb
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>>547951919
Leviathan san... Gome nasai.
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>>547950649
We had that and community threw a shit fit and started review bombing the game again. Taking down leviathans wasn't hard but redditors and /hdg/ trannies couldn't handle them.
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>>547952938
Nerftroons will really defend any design as long as it makes the gamer "harder"
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>>547951919
>>547952672
Wrong.
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I'll never forget when I played with a nerftranny. it was pre-nerf leviathans and he was acting smug about how leviathans arnt that bad. I watch him throw down a cuck chair out in the open and a leviathan snipes his ass.
He didnt speak for the rest of the mission.
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>>547952072
Stun only worked for hosts, this was universally known by people who actually played the game
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>>547953549
that was gas and fire, not stun you never-played
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>>547953480
Nerftroons secretly desire the launch meta strat of "run away from the enemies". They loved pre-nerf leviathan because the only winning move was to avoid the thing. It gives them the feeling of hiding their fetishes from their family
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>>547947985
i'm waiting for the 2nd so i don't burn out
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Bugs

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243990913130/76561197999591385
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>>547953480
>it was real in my mind!
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>>547953710
nerftroons will claim that running away wasn't meta though, and that everyone that says otherwise is just a low skill redditor sloptuber brainwashed buffchud
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>>547953710
>>547953849
>i had to run away that means everyone else did too!
you shitters are hilarious!
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>>547953623
>he doesn't know
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>>547953849
Running is still the meta
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>>547953849
>always autistically stood my ground
>would still beat most missions
I wasn't even that good back then.
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I no longer shoot hulks in the head with AC, too much hassle. Leg meta forever
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>>547954043
You ran away too, I remember nerftroons at the time praised the railgun nerf
>You aren't supposed to fight Bile Titans, they're TOO SCARY! You're supposed to run!
Word for word, a chant by every nerftroon like you
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>>547953827
>t. nerftanny
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Making a robutt OP. Gimme a sec.
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>>547954274
EAT + OPS GOD coming through.
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>>547953793
3/4
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>>547954962
>use all three
>maybe kill 1 bile titan
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>>547954497
Don't bake, let this place die
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>>547953710
>They loved pre-nerf leviathan
well yeah if it wasn't obvious by now that they love bad game design lol
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>>547942164
>only for that most absolute high skill best at game elite
>every dif is just item power check and the last one is just enemies have more health and damage just to the point you might lose
im not sure what you're trying to say tbph
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>>547955769
Nerftrannies think gear checks are good game design, its why they only ever call for lowing weapon damage and increasing enemy health
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>>547955834
>>547955730
D10 requires zero effort even with sub optimal equipment. That is not good game design. Stop defending it, and stop coping.
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>>547954497
kys
but make your shitty thread first I don't actually want us to fall off until the swiggers are truly defeated
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>>547956112
>nerftranny posts lies and hyperbole
like clockwork
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>>547956239
They do this because its how their mind works.
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>>547955834
>lowering weapon damage and increasing enemy health
it's all they know how to do. their brains are so damaged after repeated hormone imbalances that they struggle to form a coherent thought. they don't even realize that fundamentally Helldivers 2 was never difficult, and Arrowhead does not posses the technical acuity to add non-artificial difficulty to the game.
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>Differerent guns doing different things = "gear check" = bad
Why won't buffaggots simply play Destiny? Epic game without gear checks, rocket launcher and a handgun are functionally the same but one does 100x damage of the other and has less ammo. Only epic skillz, no gear checks
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>>547956239
>>547956349
>t. died to the levitation 10 times per mission and blamed the game instead of his own lack of intelligence
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>>547956552
why are you too scared to reply directly? is it because you know your position is indefensible, so you have to make arguments in a passive-aggressive manner?
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>>547956694
It's not a reply to particular person. Against the general sentiment.
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>>547956690
We already know how your mind works, you dont need to keep providing examples.
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>>547956690
>nerftranny posts lies and hyperbole
like clockwork
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>>547956552
>Why won't buffaggots simply play Destiny?
or some soulless twitch shooter of the cawadoody variety
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>>547956694
Why can't HD2 have optional super modes like literally every other co op game without faggots like you throwing a tantrum and review bombing the game? Is it because you're too scared to admit that you struggle with a videogame?
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>>547956552
you realize that if every "buffaggot" left, the game still wouldn't be difficult, right?
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don't make new bread
return to /copeg/
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>>547957072
You realize AH would then balance around the players that remain. right? What a dumb fucking post, try again.
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>>547957072
Devs literally stopped adding higher difficulties because of people like you shitting themselves and demanding the game be made easier when they did that last time.
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>>547957280
I agree, this general is filth
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>>547957043
the only ones throwing a tantrum are the ones currently unhappy with the game balance, i.e., (you)
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>>547955834
kek
i genuinely couldnt figure out what he meant cause the post was replying to nothing and because i played vermintide 2: tunnel digger boogaloo and all the difficulty in that game is really just power check for your gear slots, so the idea of that image being used to prove theres a game with real difficulty was so retarded i didn't even consider thats what he intended to say
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>>547957349
You sure? That coyote "nerf" caused a lot of ass hurt from bufftrannies such as yourself.
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>>547957287
There's no money to be made of like 300 tranoids. Only EoS awaits. Your victory is the same as the death of the game.
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>>547957280
>>547957328
nooooooo we have our own football team :(
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>>547957287
>You realize AH would then balance around the players that remain
you realize that changing numbers on a spreadsheet doesn't affect difficulty, right?
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>>547888798
for me its regular fire nades (more dmg) and incel mines instead of flamethrower for maximum suffering. Don't forget to drop in on fire tornado biomes. Mite not take the hot dog if swedes give it 2 seconds of ammo (too unrealistic otherwise haha) though.
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>>547957349
if you're not unhappy with the game including how it is "balanced" (shit is LISTING) I'll assume you're either a newdiver or the legit dullest knife in the whole kitchen
so which is it
did you install a week ago or are you sub 50 iq buffnigger
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>>547957459
>"nerf"
>lower durable damage
>fire nerfed
>worse handling
Yeah that's a nerf
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>>547957459
>blanket nerf to all medium pen weapons just to get the coyote
>"nerf"
Nerftroons are insane
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>>547957543
>you realize that changing numbers on a spreadsheet doesn't affect difficulty, right?
Okay, lets revert the changes to the elevated overseer and fleshmob. I'm sure that won't cause any ass hurt from the bufftrannies.
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>>547957752
>>547957752
>>547957752
Migrate
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>>547957543
It does, though.
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>>547957662
>>547957705
Uh oh! Ass hurt bufftrannies are about to join the 41% Please don't jump!
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>>547957662
Where is this coyote nerf?
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>>547957951
>nerftroons killing themselves by the dozen in protest just to get the coyote nerfed
>"why do you care CHUD, its just a little nerf"
Nerftroons are defined by their degenerate, leftist behavior
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>>547958269
It was a hidden change
>all medium ARs have lower proportional durable damage after enemy durable health changes
>all enemies have greater fire resist
>blanket changes to lower AR handling
Nerftroons are experts at deception, seeing as they pretend to be women online all day. But much like reality its incredibly easy to see through



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