gamers deserve death edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-66Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2whttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3569474876>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/pastebin: https://pastebin.com/jBpbpJQc/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG (out of date): https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>547808473
>>547864796open source or source available?>>547872108
>>547872108v and vg
first for AIchads
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how do i make a game that looks like this?
>>547872225Yeah that confirms it, he's been making the /v/ threads everyday. So Fygoon is running a general in /v/ and that's just how it is now and will continue to be for another 2 years huh. Cringe.
The future of vibe coding is great, ranjeets.
epic start
feels
>>547872434i look like this
>>547872418I feel bad making fun of luddites, it's like watching old people screech that computers are evil a few years ago. Every generation gets filtered by newer tech...
>>547872438I called him out on it before and he got super defensive and said it was just a coincidence he was always the first reply
>>547872261>>547872583
Creator beings are we.
I'm vibecoding my loli game
>>547872434Man that's some pretty low quality outfit, I guess they spent all the budget on the whore.
>>547872579you are beautiful, madam
>>547872578agdg won
>>547872418You made a grave mistake putting the prompt in your video. Now I can make that exact same game! HAHAHA!!!
>>547872672AIpedo...
>jeets misuse [amazing tool] and get [terrible results]well surely this is the tools fault am i right x'isters?
>>547871924Unbelievable, they're literally speedrunning it into the ground. Literally do nothing and they could maintain superiority in the OS market for years, just male security updates, that is it. At this rate I'm likely to go with Apple or an extremely user friendly version of Linux ~8 years from now. I really am hoping Gabe transitions his Steam OS into a full fledged OS. Would jump over to it. I presume that not only can it run games well but developing games on such a system would also be straightforward like Windows?>inb4 Timmy see's this and races to make his own OS too
just sticking the ol poster
despite having just 3.2% of sales, over 37% of bug reports come from the linux users
>>547872814>i am not the jeet sar you are brown sar
anyone posting momoi or momoi's sister is literally just kannadev
>>547872780I have several posts on there with lots of points, it's very hit or miss
>>547873118
>>547873058LinuxCHADS we keep winning
i'm going to go back to pixel art and see if it's faster
>>547873148i guess they never miss huh?
Why are yellow climbable surfaces considered bad game design, but red explosive barrels are not?
>>547873401soul vs souless
>thousands of original games are released constantly>nobody plays them>dev comes along "yeah everyone is just making slop nobody makes anything original"
>>547873582i said this
>>547872579>Bocchi_close_up_light_blush.pngHi>>547872653Luckily I do not need 4chan to be a success at gamedev, and I can always befriend my 4chan dev frens outside 4chan too.
>>547873118keep seething, we keep making progresskeep replying, 'mini and 'aude and 'ppity are churning, you lose we win
>>547872118Show me the "derivative" game he made please no I'm not going to twitter to dig this up.
You younger devs probably don't know of it, but I miss the YouTube series Extra Credits with the guy with the pitched and sped up voice. That’s where I first learned a ton of elements of game design and what inspired me to start making my own games
>>547873401Red barrels are something you actually see in real life so they don't stick out like a sore thumb unlike this stupid shitWho painted this mountain? Why did they paint the mountain? How did they paint the mountain? Who knows, just shut up and consume the slop
>>5478738275 years for a walking simulator because he didnt listen to people warning him about scope and adding heckin details that early on, let that be a lesson for you all
>>547872261AI chads, we keep winning.
>>547874012>5 yearstwo years thoughbeit
Test
>>547873890fuck off nodev 'dite, the problem aint the devs you think we want to do that and make tutorials? fuck no, but the average gamer is a mouthbreathing retard, i shouldve went into finance like my dad wanted me to, all my friends are living their best life while im stuck in my room grinding a game that will most likely flop
>>547873890hey maybe one of the mine workers came by and painted all the climbable ledges for anyone trying to climb up
>>547874012If there's no gameplay that's because they didn't have a game in mind to begin with that's not a feature creep issue.
Im working on s nee imageboard. Here is what i got so far.http://172.105.240.248/
>Testthat's when you know a terrible post is incoming
>>547874136lets meet in the middle and say 3
>>547873827I prefer elf-chan. She's sexier.
>Nodevs imagining the absolute face of evil known as Fygoon
They are getting rid of us xi' sters
>>547874348brace for neo 'ginas
>>547874310Here is a screenshot for all you chickensOh and pedogames are allowed judt not pedo shit
>>547874523i look like this
>>547874542
>>547874201>im grinding a game im a real dev>I should have been a rich business man but I must suffer for my art insteadRich delusions on display here.
If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, Valve used AI to make Deadlock, or a new Call of Duty will release full of AI Studio Ghibli images, nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan." But when I say that one little old indie game uses AI voices, well then everyone loses their minds!
xs our reaction?
>>547874201How is solo dev an career option lol had you said professional gamedev.This is something to kill time.
i paid 100 usd to join the Indie Game Clinic discord
>>547874827'dites wont like this thoughts provoking post
>>547873827How far do you think you still need to go to finish this game?
This probably always gets asked but which one is easier to learn? 2d or 3d dev?
>>547874827the Ds aren't all there, missing screws you could say
>>547874891PAUSE. my blud did WHAT?
>>547875116its okay betz said he is gonna give me free claude so i had 100 bucks to spare
>>547874870dirk, my FVARKING hero
>G5
your next line will be>G3
>>547875346873.jpg, 874.png, followed by G5. Yeah he's running chatbots again. They do this kind of thing to try and justify throwing their life away learning to use AI slop scripts.
ShowHN: this bimester 4chan gamedev community /agdg/ showcase is currently happening!
>>547875530so true
>>547874976I have no idea, I already finished most of the heavy stuff so the current demo is content complete, just needs some UI changes.Now I'm just playing around with a new prototype for fun. At this rate I will end up releasing 2 loli game demos next Demo Day.
Seeing how godot keeps adding useless features I don't care and windows keeps adding useless garbage to windows.Maybe I should just read an OpenGL 2.1 and SDL book and just make a game that way.
>*'s are creating conspiracy theories about AI C'hadslol lmao even
>>547875504>G3Is some hero finally going to gas AGDG?
>>547874891What does he provide in return? Despite the nose piercing, the guy seems knowledgeable in the few vids I watched.>>547875821Will you be releasing the game on Nintendo? Looks like something that would be allowed into their ecosystem and sell well. Advice on how to get good at 3D?
saw an indie dev using this. might be used by the Mosa Lina dev too. I don't hate the way it looks would be nice to be able to use this real-time in Aseprite https://torcado.com/cleanEdge/
>>547876149Releasing on Nintendo sounds like a pain in the ass, maybe one day.>Advice on how to get good at 3D?Just practice a lot, there's plenty of resource for learning. Also try to learn from other 3D models available online.
>>547876107>>547876115>G3AAAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IM GOING CRAZY
A good movement system is essential to establishing fun gameplay if your game isn't turn-based.
>>547877012>there are only two kinds of games: turn-based combat and action combatNGMI mentality
>be me>neet of 3 years>mom says I need a job>skills in gamedev not advancing fast enough>can't gamedev as a wagie unless I want to take 5+ years to release>desperation getting worse>last ditch effort>big stock market gamble this morning, my entire life savings into weekly options>turn 90k into three quarters of a million by eod>close out the optionsAnd just like that I quit gamedev [/spoiler]for now. Good luck Bocchi sisters. Boy oh boy do I have a surprise to tell her.
>>547877603pics or it didn't happen
>>547877603Imagine not spending that million on making games.
how to fix this?
>>547874310>no mobile layoutI am mildly inconvenienced at the moment but this is probably a good thing. Please add poster IDs, national flags, rangeban everyone east of Constantinople, and ban all VPN ip ranges as I just posted on my VPN.https://github.com/az0/vpn_ip.
>>547877903Try to asking the chat gpt sir
Happy for you if true
>>547877603i wish i had 90k...
>>547877603You need $2.5m to earn $50k per year off the interest. Gamble it all again, just think how rich you could get.
I was lying, sowwi sisters. I wish I was a great gamedev ;___;
>>547878781Reported to the IRS either way. I don't want you skipping out on capital gains tax.
>>547874523reminds me of fagoon. why aren't you making an animorphs game? who owns the license? it's probably cheap
a game where you take your mother to prom and end up falling in love
>>547877903https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=80LhtHY_fHw
>>547879306this but she ends up fucking your bully
>>547878781Maybe you'd be a better gamedev if you channeled your energy into grinding instead of these silly little fantasies.
>>547879473this but you're suicidal so the bully is you
>>547879473based AIchad
>>547878852The IRS is a big scam. I feel sorry for Americans.
Alright, I now get why you guys keep glazing Claude. I'm joining the AI Chad team.
>>547880185>he hasn't found out about the weekly limits yet
>>547880185Welcome brother.
>>547878971Hate him or love him Joey Fygoon is FVARKING iconic tough, what happened to Fygoon btw I haven't seen him post in a while.
>>547880526he died of ass cancer
>>547880526that twink he wrestled gave him super aids
>>547880742Don't joke about that after what happened to totalbiscuit man. I thought I would make it and have him review my game some day...
>>547880950It was a mercy. He would have ended up like Jim Sterling
>>547880526He's the AI spammers, or you. He seeks attention at any cost.
>>547880840He's a wrestler? That's corny unless you're doing MMA and from Dagestan.>>547881034Nah I don't think so, he had a wife and kid no?
>>547877291>only action games have movement systems
>>547879306
>>547881089He's not me but I wish I was that young again, I would not browse 4chan or get engaged. I've read that the billionaires are close to a breakthrough on reverse aging, I didn't trust ozempic either but they did fix obesity.
any actual good indie game using AI that is not just rpg maker pornslop shovelware, or is it just jeets trying to groom gamedevs into using it?
>>547878616>2% rulethis is retardedly conservative.
thoughts on directional attack combat systems like in For Honor?
>>547881420Facade 2 : You should leave, ROBOT!
thoughts on directional attack combat systems like in Die By The Sword?
>>547880362nta but im also interested, what plan are you using?
>>547881570Yes. Having a few mil in the bank with zero exposure or risk and having that pay my living expenses is the dream. Anything extra you can go play with in the casino
>>547881420Void War
i relapsed again...
tfw you finally finished your game but it only runs at 7fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5rJJfhBis0I have reached the audio quality of an expensive library with a FOSS sampling library and stock LMMS on linux.my haters utterly and completely BTFO now.
>>547883641cris FVARKING WON
which one?
>>547883641I can hear crackles. what are you listening to it with?
>>547883936are you designing UI in notepad?are you retarded?cant you at least use paint?
>>547883936that one
post bad game design>buying health recovery potions is cheaper and more efficient than using healing magic and replenishing it with mana recovery potions
>>547884193where is your game?
>>547884139It's the vinyl effect.Maybe I need to make it more sutble.
>>547883936>>547884438yes
>>547884438here bro----------- X|start game||close game||rape your mom|-------------------------fucking retard lmao
>>547884279But, what if casting healing magic improves your healing level so that later on, it's the opposite?
>>547884957That's fine, I think. So long as actually picking up healing magic proves eventually superior to the base shit everyone can have access to.
I have finished my grinding, chuds.That's it.I finally have reached the level where I have learned and become really good at every gamedev skill needed to make a videogame.I finally will make a masterpiece after 20 years of training every day to reach the point where I can be the best gamedev.That's it.That's the update.
Anyone else burnt out on?>>547885481Game this upcoming DD? Spoiler on genre?
>>547885665I think I'll make a basic roguelike with 3D models.
>>547885481>really good at every gamedev skill needed to make a videogame.There is a skill you are yet to even touch though, that you're not even a beginner at. Finishing. finishing a game is a skill, chino.
What if all your gamedev skills are reset to 0>level design>pixel art>handdrawn>3d art (includes modeling)>programming>networking>sfx design>music design>story design>marketintEtc etc etc. All to 0. You get 2 skills to max out. Would you reset your current gamedev skill set and get 2 insta maxxed?
>>547886708There is no level cap in real life.
>>547886708What use is being a jack of few trades? Easy peasy, reset them. Gib 3D art skill and level design. My magnum opus is finally much closer to reality. Maybe switch out level design for networking but level design may be hard to learn well enough compared to just getting a programmer to do all the nitty gritty stuff
>post progress question>get bullied by crabs
>>547886851you say this but then you have prime examples like cris and boku
>>547886891They have improved over the years, but they don't improve fast enough to outpace the increase in the average industry standards, and therefore are always falling further behind.
>>547882832what are you relapsing on?
Progress:Seamless integration with my equipment system.lesson learned: do things right one time and attaching new systems is gonna be a simple walk
>>547882832
>>547887547sakura-chan let me touch you
>>547887652
>>547873845https://store.steampowered.com/app/3895180/Azaran_The_Demon_Bottle/
>>547887507lol
>>547886708in this era, hand drawn and story design.
>>547887108>They have improved over the yearsthe opposite is truethey both got worse over time by being exposed to all kinds of retarded shit like AIinstead of choosing to master something they chose to fuck around
>>547888649si señor yo usar linux
>>547887507are you the guy that made that game that had a tomboy girl with an /agdg/ shirt?
>>547889000yes, is the same game after being reseted due to unity retardation.
>>547878971why the fuck am I laughing so hard
>>547879306Do any of you ever worry that your game's "fandom" might end up being overtaken by secondaries who haven't actually bought or played your game?
>>547882832>>547887547>>547887652>>547887935lowkey? joshua and fygoon had a point
All my life I've only ever done OOP because it just werks. What do the naysayers claim I should be doing instead?
>>547889784who?
>>547889784lol how did you know those were all me?
>>547889875ZZTOOP
>>547887108This. The gap from 10 years ago to now? Imagine Marmoreal, Bokube, Spurdo :D, etc releasing back in 2015. They could have done souch better just because of the standards back then
>>547889875Bing "Composition vs Inheritance"
>>547889973based and dadrock-pilled
>>547889735That'll happen if you just make coombait characters and not a game people actually want to playBut either way, it's just free marketing
>>547889875I wouldnt worryabout it, if it werks it werks. They can scream all they want but at the end of the day whose finished a game?
>>547890290Coffin was a game that people actually wanted to play and its characters weren't coombait, and yet it still happened to it. And it's not really "marketing" because all the people who check out the game end up disappointed and not buying it because it's nothing like the secondaries portray it.
>>547890158>Using ZZT-OOP, objects can be named, given commands for actions, and can send and receive messages.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZZT
>>547890659>ZZT was a commercial success, with around 4,000–5,000 copies sold by 2009.timmy the successful
>>547890659ah I thought the joke was ZZ-Top (Tim might have been thinking about that)
>>547890758>ZZT's success led Sweeney to change his company's name to Epic MegaGames
>>547890969what a fucking dork
>>547890659That sounds like networking
>>547890434>its characters weren't coombaityou might want to look againalso every fandom portrays games nothing like they actually are. most games on this website devolve into losers posting about their waifu or husbando in a general thread every single day and no one even talks about the actual gameif its not that its fanart that'll be nothing like the game either
>>547891304tim invented the internet
>ECS is not the same thing as OOPnani the fuckI've been using a mix of ECS and OOP all along
Nobody's talking about gemini in here? What a shame. It's honestly really good at some things if you know how to prompt around its built in bias. Sadly that means being very specific without giving it too much content depending on the orthogonalization of the information you present it with.It seems to be especially good at doing things when you can create systems that divide things up and then synergize them together creatively.
>>547892649>that screenshot
>>547892649I asked it to write a shader but it kept trying to divide by zero
pixiv is filled so many ai loli porn these days
When I am king, AIfags will face the wall.
>>547892904
>>547891853ECS typically has implications regarding memory layout and queryability that you lose out on by using classes. You're probably just using OOP with managers.>>547892649Gemini's great at what it does. I would never use it to make a game, or as a general chat assistant, though.
>>547893180>ECS typically has implications regarding memory layout and queryability that you lose out on by using classes. You're probably just using OOP with managers.Couldn't you say if you're using Unity you at least partially use ECS? Components are a core of unity. The gameobjects are like the entities. As for systems. huhh I guess you have to do that on purpose.
Apple released the new pluribus episode early. No progress for a bit because I have to watch it first.
I kicked a lot of bullies in the nuts when I was a kid
>>547893545you watch corny shit my g but enjoy your episode i guess
>>547893372In terms of GOs being a composition of components in the editor, vaguely. However, if you want to say "Get me all the GOs that have components A, B, and C," you're going to have to scan every GO in the scene to find them, or maintain some dictionaries that map component sets to lists of objects. ECS as an architecture really exists to make querying entities with certain features be inherently extremely fast because they all live next to one another in memory. Just having a singleton manager that loops over a list of objects looks sort of like a system, but it's really missing the performance backbone that motivates ECS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nljtp32c64Mmake more slop!
What can we learn from this? He made a 3d game and it flopped after a successful 2d game years ago.
>>547894025>twisted tower kicks off a new era of immersive singleplayer story heavy gamescome on mr brush, I'm rooting for you
>>547894242dev lucked out on his first game and didn't know what made it sell
>>547894242don't use AI art
>>547893975>>547893372This is a good video to help understand what "DOTS" and "ECS" in Unity are actually doing. https://youtu.be/WwkuAqObplU
>>547893975>>547894475thanks anons
what's up with the slot machine games? what happened to games that required critical thinking? did zoomers finally realize that video games aren't worth putting effort into?
>>547885481Has cris ever actually made a playable prototype at least of something yet?
i think if i knew how to think in something other than english words i would be vastly more intelligent. i can not think anything if it is not in the form of hearing the english language in my head. i can not think abstract non-word thoughts. which is weird because that should be the native way the human brain thinks. does that mean if i was never taught english i'd be a thoughtless meat puppet? i hate my inability to think outside english words. HOW DO YOU DO IT?!
>>547894467This. Seems to be one of two routes for most devs>they lucked out but don't actually understand what makes a desired game>the dev "gets it" and makes success after successIf you're in the first category you are only gonna make it by blasting through as many games as you can develop. Rapid fire as many games, small games at that, big games will drain your energy and probably make you give up the moment it flops. Try making a game for 10 years and it only makes $100k in profit. Whereas someone who just gets it can make $10m+ despite spending 10 years on it. Maybe you can learn what sells but I doubt that knowledge will come to you quickly. Simply knowing what genre's are selling well doesn't mean you will do well. There's also a matter of competency, even if you know what sells it doesn't mean much if you can't make the game well enough.
>>547894242>successful 2d game years ago>Gross revenue (base game): $10.6k ($4.3k - $16.8k)
>>547894943Good slot machines require more critical thinking than deterministic puzzles ever could.
I just got back from a date, it was short but brutal. Imagine getting 20k wishlists and releasing your game and then you get 50 sales the first day.She didn't ask me any questions, she just had coffee which she insisted on paying herself and left after 40 minutes.I wish I'd gamedeved instead but now I'm too low energy and disappointed.
>>547895901gives me hope for my gambling "game". idea:>website which livestreams npc vs npc fights in fighting games>you vote which character you think will win using solana>if you're right you get the solana of the people who were wrong>there's a chat in the websiteliterally that simple. the only similar project im aware of is saltybet which does the exact same thing but with fake money, and how they make real money is by selling $5/month subscriptions that give you data others dont have so you can bet your fake money more efficiently.
>>547895737with that kind of money my family could have clean drinking water for 3 years
>>547896309if she insisted on paying for her own shit i think thats a good sign. i'd seek her out again in case you read her wrong.
>>547895737Yeah that's not a success. Im with Branno on this topic, "success." Try telling that to random chicks at a public place>hey check it out!>*hands flyer of game*>i made $10k on this game i spent 3 years of my life on!>arent i such a success?>wanna go on a dateKek shed laugh or do that nervous laugh while edging away. Do the same but say $200k. Suddenly you'll get agreement or told you have a big ego, probably still turned down tho
>>547896501>a good sign that she doesn't want anything from you>a good sign she doesn't want you to think she owes you anything, even thanksIt's a bad sign. A good sign would be if she paid for you too or if she said next time it's her treat.
Why is 10K low? That sounds like a great number.
You guys should all be executed
>>547896764>for 3 years waste majority of free time on gamedev>say 2000 hours>game makes $10k revenueIn a first world country you could just get a second job and part time, like at McDonalds, and make $10k in a year. It's offputting to invest so much time into a game only for it to flop. Also if you're in the US, $10k is like 3 or 4 months of living expenses for someone in the lower middle class.
>>547896764
>>547896764>>547897213Gross revenue is NOT what you get to spendGross x 0.9 = after refunds x 0.9 = after sales tax x 0.7 = after Steam's cut x 0.8 = after income taxesSo around $4-5k assuming the dev doesn't have mandatory social contributions (retirement, health insurance) where he lives and if he's outside the US assuming his country has a double taxation treaty with the US otherwise it could be even lower than $4k.
i've been posting on this thread for 3 years and truthfully i havent even tried making a game yet. i just say my ideas.
>>547897501That's okay, I made 2 games in that time, so we average 1 game in 3 years which is not bad.
It's over.
>>547897767that's cool and all but i think the best way would still be to take your code editor (vscode for example) and install claude code and an AI 3D Model generator (with ai textures/rigging/animating) directly into your code editor. it would be just as fast (possibly faster) and produce higher quality results and i bet be cheaper.
>>547897767nothing but slop
ITS THE WEEKEND (for me)TIME TO DEVTIME TO HAVE FUN
>>547897767nothing of this webm can be used to win money
>>547897983likewise there's vscode extensions to generate ai music/voice overs directly in your code editor. they'll be in your projects filesystem ready for use immediately without the "download from website" step
>>547895028about 10 almost playable. nothing with more than 10 hours of work put into it
>>547897767Make x but worse! thanks AI!
>>547897501I've been here for 2, and have been making the same game this whole time, but never shared it because it's cringe
for some reason pro-AI game "developers" assume AI will stop advancing before it makes them obsolete.AI can already write a better story than you. what makes you think it can't come up with a better game idea than you?
>>547898568>what makes you think it can't come up with a better game idea than you?its against the TOS
Nobody boughted it... Everybody refunded it...
>check out a multiplayer dev log>menu systems and simple game play mechanicsHow can anyone put up with having to go through that just to make a multiplayer game?
here's my 6 ideas. which one should i pursue?
give gamers what they want
>>547898964What
>>547899002>implying you could make cashgrab slop
>>547897501Over 3 years being here, gamedev for longer tho. I have games but nothing that would sell well.
>>547899019This is what gamers want
>>547899002I vote for saltybets 2 with streamers as the fighters. also devs as characters. my money is on cris
>>547899056Im saying it is complex and time consuming all just to get simple stuff working. It looks like something that would more than triple development time.
>>547899242hm yea with saltybet 2 i think its possible to think up something better than Mugen fights
Any multiplayer devs here? How time consuming has multiplayer been? How much time do you believe it'd take you to get the game to the same state if it was solely singleplayer?
>>547899447I abandoned 2 multiplayer games. more time trying to reduce lag than actually making the content
this jobby ages the fuck out of you
>>547823228The game is Spy Drops
>>547899019soulless uncanny dolls of children?
>she's looking through the archive to respond to outdated postsWhy is she like this? Is it the estrogen?
>>547899523>turns every interview into a therapy session
>>547899242that's such a great idea, i'd probably only have to set it up to automatically give each streamer 1% of the pot (2% total) and they'd play my app just to make money there and it's fuckhuge advertising for my app
>>547899002None of these are good
>>547899523I liked this exchange>brush: whats it like to be such as revered gamedev?>ed:let me ask you, whats it like to have 400k youtube subs?>brush: feels amazing, I feel powerful>ed:i feel nothing like that, I'm still just me, doing my own thing.
>>547899980i only care if they're good for making money. i dont mean 1% chance of $1M either i mean 50% chance of $1000. i wouldnt play any of it either.
Your entire success is dictated by youtubists and streamers playing your game.You can't argue against this.
>>547900235If you want to make money, then just make porn games.
>>547900250well making a good looking, fun game exponentially increases your chances of streamers picking it up
>>547900374And if they don't you still fail (and most of the time they don't).Gamers are cattle, they don't have their own opinions anymore. Only what their favourite youtubist tells them.
>>547900270alright, idea: saltybet style betting site livestreaming a simple browser based hentai visual novel made by me and played by ChatGPT where ChatGPT stalks various anime girls and you vote on which girl he will succeed in raping next. its a rape visual novel, ChatGPT plays the fat ugly bastard. can this make me money?
>>547900910alternately there are tons of itch.io premade NTR games i might can reuse for my betting site:https://itch.io/games/nsfw/tag-ntr
Americunts in this thread be like>just pay a dude on fiverr for voice actingI CAN'T YOU FUCKING CUNTS, YOU DISABLED IT
All I want is a female loli artist gf that self inserts as her loli OC.
>>547899502Why was lag such an issue? Have you given up on multiplayer and transitioned to singleplayer? I understand the content thing, all the effort to making it work in multiplayer adds limitations which if you refuse to stay within will likely increase development, just to add a new piece of content with a new mechanic>>547900103Lel. Link to vid and time?
Kill the bitch!
>>547901064oh wait i got confused i thought NTR meant rape but it doesnt. i'd have to find/make a hentai rape game
>>547901496https://youtu.be/4qXGRLJ-w1Q?t=3606
>>547899019I would not play a game like this because if my father were to see it, he would be incredibly disappointed with me. My father is has passed away, which means he is in heaven and he can always see what I am up to, and I do not want to disappoint him. He keeps me honorable.
>>547901496>Why was lag such an issue? It was so long ago... I just remember other players would always be jittering and teleporting. >Have you given up on multiplayer and transitioned to singleplayer?just singleplayer. I have a tiny multiplayer game I want to make though, which I probably can do in 2026, maybe AI can help or if not, the resources are abundant now.
>>547872118where the fuck is nortubel i havent seen him coompost on xitter or tumblr
FUCKING BITCH DO YOU UNDERSTAND GABENCUNT?
>muh success>muh money>muh ecelebs>muh LLMspost gamedev
>>547903184here
I missed this release. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1166940/Dead_Static_Drive/I remember thinking it was a hit in the making with those gifs doing the rounds. I would be so gutted to see this reaction to my game not meeting expectations.
I've reached levels of burnout previously not thought possible
>>547903425>30 dollaryedo's!>mostly negative
>mfw steamies
>>547903425>30 dollarsI bet the devs live in San Francisco
>scrap and restart project to focus on making the core gameplay loop fun>beginning to slack off on dev progress because I keep accidentally playing it more than testing it>people trying out the test builds have all used "fun" when describing itgmi? Haven't been to this gen in months, hope all of your projects are flourishing.
why agdg won't make immersive sym?
I often think about what I'll do with all the money when my game makes it. This sounds like a retarded thing to think about but...At one point my uncle had $6M and he spent most of it and now he's surviving on social security. I asked him why didn't he save or invest anything and he said your thinking changes when you get that amount of money in a short amount of time. Confidence through the roof, optimism through the roof, you feel like you can do no wrong and that any problem is easy to solve.That's why I think it's important to think about what to do with the money BEFORE I actually earn it.First thing I'll do is buy some real estate to live in. One bedroom is enough because I'm not gonna have a family.Then I'll invest 80% of what's left in some index fund that I'll live on and spend the remainder on some riskier investments, whatever is the bitcoin or nft or nvidia at that moment.I think I'll still want to make games but I'm not going to be hiring people. I figure if I could make one successful game by myself I can make another.
so if i make a porn gambling game i will surely make money right? the gambling takes place off of steam. on steam is just the porn game. i make a separate website having nothing to do with steam where you watch a livestream of the game played by a bot, and users bet which one of the two girls at a time the main character (bot, played by AI) will seduce first. it's not random, some girls are easier than others and the AI my upgrade the MC's stats in certain ways, which you can interpret their success from.can this make money?
>>547904532the game is just a game. people may buy it on steam organically. the gambling site is a marketing tool to funnel a different audience (gamblers) to steam to buy the game, but also providing an additional completely separate revenue stream than the game (gambling fees). the game itself has no gambling at all, it's a porn game.
>>547904673>>547904532Somebody can you just skin this bastard bitch alive and then boil it in hot woter so it suffers to the maximum before dying?
>>547904532>the gambling takes place off of steamThey banned NFT games for a reason.
>>547904776if steam bans my game i have a backup plan. its a browser game too.
>this is the slop he wants to make
>>547905118what i really want to my is a full on anime rape game where you stalk and rape whichever girl you can and viewers bet on which girl you'll manage to rape first
>>547905150>he wants to bait Collective Shout into more censorship
Now that degrees of lewdity development is dead, the market is open for a new loli rape simulator.
>>547905150the good news is this game can be completely ai generated. simple rpgmaker style 2d topdown tilemap characters (all art / character sprites made by ai) then generate the anime style rape videos with ai (the anime girl in the video matches the hair color skin color etc of the pixel sprite), simple gameplay of the main character roaming around trying to corner then without getting shot/caught by the police/strangers (all NPCs). he can randomly place tampons/dollars/chad's phone number/etc on the ground to lure them to it in alleys them leap out.dont ask me how jewish/indian i have to be to make an "ai generated rape gambling game"
It is now time to start studying and practicing Art Nouveau for my elvish architecture and fashion
>>547904972>browser gamethey're going out of style sadly buddy. the web can only handle so much and there's only so much cartoony bullshit 3d framework graphics that can keep gamers attention until they go into a coma and return to full fledged downloadable games
AI bros will never make this KINO.
>>547904523your uncle is correct that your perception changes, but you're wrong about thinking about what to do with the money before you get it. you're probably wondering why would i say that? well anon, it's because planning is a meme if you're trying to change your perception of something. that requires actual inner changes where you need to fix how you see things and learn how to appreciate having just 1k in your bank account. start there, save up 1k, then 2k, etc. go all the way up for a while so you can appreciate what you have. with enough practice, perhaps, you might have enough mind flow integrated to know not to fuck it all up from the get go
I thought itch.io now nukes all porn thats not vanilla consensual sex in missionary position. Or was that only for non-free games? How's discoverability as a new nsfw dev there?
holy shit cloth simulation and cloth brushes are a game changer for my character art. i used to sculpt cloth manually and it was so tedious and painful that i literally got cramps in my hand from making every single fucking fold. now I can just simulate the stitching and gravity of cloth and the result is not only much quicker but also more realistic and nice looking
>>547906796one anon marked his new game as nsfw and had +1000% more visits so you can make a small experiment if it's still the case
>>547907187you're not a real gamedev if you let the physics engine do your game development for you
>>547906796>consensualbut why make anything non-consensual? can't you make a sex game without rape? or is that the necessary ingredient?
>>547907356Nta but it's my fetish, I jerked off to rape doujins hundreds of times yet never raped irl, almost as if they don't encourage shit. just like killing in video games.
>>547907356dubcon and cnc is like half of smut women read
>>547907356sex in general will get your shit banned on steam if you're a brand new dev
why did no big streamers play my game...?
>>547908110>big streamers
>>547907784I see tons of sex games on Steam and many are the only game of the particular dev.
>>547907271retard
>>547908110Your check didn't clear
I just realized most of these sex games on Steam are comprised of renders. It's not realtime 3D but just animations like mp4.And I was wondering why my Unity porn game looks like shit compared to those games.
>he's actually making a porn game
Sexy crab game
This is the current state, not sure if I want to focus on creating effects a little bit, maybe a primitive particle system can be nice at this stage?Or maybe some more animations to lead the player in and out of the level with a score card?A lot to do.... But honestly it's fun to chip away at this block.
>>547909482Post your game.
>>547909607https://store.steampowered.com/app/1437760/Peripeteia/
>>547909281Whatever you do, make sure the character always points the direction he is going to go. That shit is gold. Been fan since it was overhead 2D. GMI.
>>547909037unironically the first genuinely good, high production quality porn game will make infinite money. it's an untapped market.
>>547910354seconding this
>>547909482>Any last words before I kill you for good?I read that as 'Any last words before I kill god?' could you do that too? thanks.
>>547904523If you knew what to do with millions of dollars, you'd have millions of dollars.Here's what you should focus on instead - aim to make a million not for the money, but for what it would make of you as a person. >85% of lottery winners become broke and miserable within 5 years because they have no idea what to do with it. If you learn HOW to make the cash, you can make another if you lose it, or keep it and make a few more on top of it.
>>547910897Just invest in the nasdaq over the course of 30 years bros
Do custom unshaded shaders with my own simpler but hand crafted lighting solution runs better than then engine solutions in godot, unity and unreal?
>>547911168Depends how good you are at programming your own lighting solutions.So probably no.
>>547911083So I can enjoy my money when I'm too old to enjoy it?
>>547911168Yes, no and maybeNot necessarilyIt's complex
Our thoughts?
>our thoughtsBrown hands typed that. White people think for themselves.
>>547911273A basic simple toon shader using a dot operation on the normal with a smoothstep should be always more performant than modern engines meme PBR solutions.
>>547911872Here are your izzats saar
Oh no no no, how do we stop this sretsix?
hi first time posteris this thread fucked like sfg and the like? seems like it's just schizos posting their own stale memes drowning out discussion
>>547912540Yeah it's a wasteland here unfortunately
>>547912625too bad. site is really getting to the point where the hands-off moderation is destroying it. so bad lately
cris song althttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764157028056853.webm
>>547912268You'd think that, and it should, but it's not always the caseShaders are high level, you'd better look at the exposed low level code (Godot and Unity both let you do this) to measure performance and identify bottlenecks because some engines are just terribly written
Gamertards will steal your game, fuck you over with refunds, reviewbomb it for not handholding them. At this point you SHOULD use Ai slop just to piss them off.
>>547872457Thank Gaben that steam is going to offer an alternative to Windows for gaming. What an unbelievable trash heap Win11 and Microsoft are.When Windows 10 becomes unusable it's Linux for me
>>547911083stupid boomer get out
>>547912834
>>547912679nope i disagree. this is how things should be. they're doing a fine job. things need to be more lenient here to allow for pure free thought and less /pol/ tier echo chamber womanly bullshit where retards fear of being singled out for disagreeing with some fuckhead on here
>>547912498we need a massive world war to kill off the stupidest before we can get the civilization back on track.
>>547912798You think a custom glsl shader using simple lambertian lighting is going to magically be lower performance than a full PBR shader reading from 3 or more textures for every fragment and computing a physically accurate BRDF?
>>547912834i switched to linux years ago and i switched fucking late. you're really fucking late buddy. enjoy that closed source shit. hopefully you aren't devving a game on that windows computer because ms has your game
>>547912921Game dev is a struggle with or without ai, assuming you want to create something of real quality
>>547911685Having a meltie over imaginary people again?
making envs now :D
>>547912984only becoming more obvious over time that the result isn't "beautiful anarchic discourse" and more "schizophrenic people abusing the lack of enforcement to prevent any real discussion from happening at all"
>>547913289looks nice but even if it looked 3x better it still wouldn't matter. you need some brainrot in your game if you want to make it.
>>547913047I've been on Linux for about 7 years now and it's only recently that I've had to start dualbooting Windows again because fucking Stride doesn't have an editor on Linux.
>>547913135nah. ai can shit out a big scroll of code that would take the best retard here ten hours of pure focus to handcode
>>547913289mondo cool
>>547913392i'll add some brainrot later >:D
>>547874012He was in highschool when the project started and now is in college, he probably doesn't work that much on it.
>>547913047MS has my game but it's nbdMy current game is just designed to make me into a yesdev and fund a few necessary expenses for developing something really good.>you're really lateYeah, but I have no money and I'm lazy about my dev environment anyway.
>>547913135Yes, but AI makes it much easier to focus on the juicy bits instead of wasting time with boilerplate, math-heavy shit, etc.
>>547913135my game is the same whether coded by AI or by me. if it works, it works. and AI does it well enough that I'd rather hand off all coding to it and be like Todd Howard just deciding how the game should work and look.
>>547913578' d * tes won't like this one
>>547913413And you think that means that developing a good, bug-free game is now easy? I have my doubts, but it's probably good for quickly emitting janky assetslop with somewhat unique mechanics and funny bugs
>>547913578I'm more of a programmer, I like to think of solutions and implement them. Sometimes I get ideas just from solving a problem.
>>547913754okay??
>>547913563Developing games without understanding the math just sounds depressing, but I guess that's a realistic path to success nowadays.At least jblow's giant puzzle game had better sell well or I'll despair for the future of real gamedevs
>>547900103Damn, that guy demolished him.
>>547913850did yah get depressed when the calculator got invented too?
But generating voices with a neural networks is fun though.
>>547913754I've been programming since I was 12 and I didn't do any other kind of job in my life but AI is just too convenient. I don't let it agent around with my codebase (if that's the right way to put it) but I ask it to write self contained pieces of code and I rarely have to change anything.
>>547913935NOOO if you don't pay George 10k for each voice line you are literally worse than Hilter!
cris song ludo kino fantasy versionhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1764158411079412.webm
>>547913957Yeah, vibe coding games is a meme (for now), but not using AI as a coding partner is just contrarian behavior.
>>547914170x' i *ters how do we cope with this? its good good, we lost
>>547912540Heh feel site wide, idk where all the nutjobs are flowing in from.>>547912801I cant blame you considering how many virtue signal but you do one thing some dont agree with and youll see many proclaiming they will pirate your game. Some buying solely to negative review you as well. The pirate make least sense, if they hate you so much then why aee they playing your game?>>547912834Im banking on an OS that can replace Windows 11. I dont want Linux but Microsoft sure is doing their hardest to make me drop use of Windows. Might get an Apple next if there is no Steam OS for casual non gaming use.
Designing menus in Unity is such a pain in the ass. Putting gameobjects within gameobjects, acnhoring them, aligning them etc. is so tedious. Am I doing something wrong? Also it would be super useful if there was a shortcut for 'select next gameobject in hierarchy'.
the graphical quality im aiming for is Peripeteia. yep just gonna make an immersive sim. except multiplayer.
>>547913957>>547914185I understand but for me the goal is to train those problem solving skills, I want to be able to solve and implement the ideas I have myself. I don't see how that is contrarian, contrarian to what? I'm not against AI or those who use, are we not free to choose? Even if we choose to NOT use it?
>>547914908>the graphical quality im aiming for is PeripeteiaSo ugly dogshit? Not that hard to do.
>>547913578Kek that's one way to put it.
>>547914908I played Peripeteia and it's such a thematic and visual clusterfuck. The programming and mechanics behind the game are good but then everything relating to art is just terrible, inconsistent, unoriginal and derivative. It's like the exact opposite of what I make, where I put all the focus and effort into the art and themes of the game and then just have AI write shitty, unoptimized code for me.
>>547914908>multiplayerUhh anybody gonna tell him?How long was Peripeteia in development anyways? Imagine how long it'd have taken with multiplayer.
>>547915198>How long was Peripeteia in development anyways? Imagine how long it'd have taken with multiplayer.not too much longer you fucking retard. just because you can't into multiplayer doesn't mean nobody else can, nonce. you fuckin' nonce fuck
>>547914973at this point it's like refusing to use a calculator so you could train those arithmetic skills. the world is changing fast and in a few years making a high quality game could be as simple as describing it to AI and playing it a few minutes later. if you want people to play your game, you better move fast because it may be worth nothing in a few years.
i dont want to even think about it kid
thanksgiving is tomorrow and im incredibly paralyzed by stress and fear of showing up to the only people on earth who know me
>>547915198>How long was Peripeteia in development anyways?For too long given how fucking shit the game is.
pushing pixels FOR FREE thats what I domy life? fuck it I dont need lifemy future? who caresPUSHING PIXELS is what I DO
>>547894025he's right tho>fuck polish>fuck graphics>fuck everythingjust make a quick game and make millions
>>547915481Again, am I not free to not choose a calculator to train arithmetic skills?I don't care so much about the end product perhaps. Maybe if I wanted to make games quick and get fast turnover on steam I'd use AI more but at this stage I want to be able to do it myself.
>>547916156life is only hard if you actually have one (never go outside)
I'd post my game here, but /agdg/ doesn't allow me to because I used AI voice acting in it.
Any Godot 3D devs have issues with thin lines of light bleeding through seams in your environment? Often in corners or sometimes just where two modular pieces of environment are placed together. Sometimes it is only visible at certain angles.How do you stop this?
>>547916396Ok, I will allow you to choose.
Today I will remind them
>>547917000tldr retard
AI just told me the most profitable indie game i could possibly make to have a 100% chance at $10,000 instead of a 1% chance at millions would be a 2-4 player co-op Convenience Store simulator horror game where the players are employees and it starts daytime (prep phase) but as night comes things get crazy and night is crazier first it's a crackhead or two then armed robberies then gets crazier until ghosts/demons and supernatural shit until you die.Is it any good?
>>547917047more like tlcr
>>547917057bascally what Zukowski said
>>547916807Ask AI, stop wasting our time with such basic questions.
Reminder that the Peripeteia dev>never submitted to DD>never posted keys here>immediately fled the general after he released>lied about promising to stay here no matter what>feigned being /ourguy/ to get support>doesn't work on his game anymore>drove out other devs from this communityBoku is better than him. If you support him, you support a literal slopper and a faggot who trampled over people.
Good Morning /agdg/. I am a True Elf.
>>547917057yeah>>547917149>make transcoded game>trans people play it>get mad
>>547916807Don't know if this is also in Godot specifically but this is usually fixed in other engines by either changing the resolution of the lighting or clipping things deep enough into each other.>>547917142Fuck off, nigger
MAXIMUM PROFITfor the LEAST AMOUT OF EFFORTthat's whats this is all about
>>547917395I'm going to put in MAXIMUM EFFORTfor theLEAST AMUNT OF PROFITand I'm gonna feel great about it
>>547917142Just admit you don't know
>>547917280>vague non-answerai would have done better
what if trans-icon 'lain the experimenter', was polish?
There, I said it.
when pretty girl thinks you're handsome, you get a dopamine hit
>>547917527The creator of Lain was an avid anti-vaxxer and was in no way a "trans icon"
>>547915925<shrugs in european>
>>547917729The only "girl" who ever did that was a 37 year old skinny italian woman. and she kissed me after that
>>547917739you don't seem to understand
a true game dev would watch "The Ping Pong Club" for game inspiration. sure ping pong isn't a video game but the way this is presented somehow translates in abstract ways. watch the first 2 mins of episode 1 you'll see (turn on Dub, its necessary for this specific anime):https://animekai.to/watch/the-ping-pong-club-qvr5#ep=1
>>547889784this, joshua is a saint
No kill volume, the vapor malingers.Unattached, unwanted, unprofessional...
now it werk
>>547917907Good times, watched this long time ago but with subs, it was good.
>>547917873You should listen to the acoustic version of Duvet on a solid pair of headphones. Beautiful song in FLAC quality, Imma add it to my game
I saw this guy on ZUKS channel the other day (I actually played the demo for his game and it's kino afhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/290100/Bulwark_Falconeer_Chronicles/ ) and he mentioned such an obvious but powerful truth about your game, it should be something that when people are seeing someone else play it they think about all the ways they would play it differently, either seeing someone make decisions or even struggle with the game then getting inspired to play the game then do it better. https://youtu.be/0oYXQLdggHw&t=1495So don't make your game too easy and do keep it open ended enough that if it does get streamed peoples imagination will be sparked.
>>547917729I only have eyes for one specific very tall red haired woman who has prominent front teeth and prominent clavicle.
I just realized that in any data structure where the values are randomized (like randomly generated enemies or items or quests or whatever) I should store only the seed value for the rng and recreate everything on the fly. or even better, store the seed that creates those seeds. basically an entire level with a hundred rooms could be stored as 83568346183 and it wiil be recreated in whatever detail I want down to individual specks of dust if I want to simulate that deep (I don't)
>>547918424P.S she is the prettiest girl ever.
I really should just salvage whatever generic assets I have from my unfinished projects folder and then work on a single unified framework to prototype things off of because I keep running into finished, half-finished, barely even started versions of things that essentially all do the same goddamn thing and then nuke the entire folder. Fucking hell.
>>547918374the Falconeer Chronicles game flopped
>>547918374Is falconeer fun to play or is it driven solely by the theme?
if you doubled you dev skills, doubled the speed you can apply them, and doubled the amount of hours per day you dev... you would dev 8x faster.
>>547918374I'll do mobile style trailers where the player approaches an obvious play and then does the wrong thing
>>547918786if you could be correct about stock prices 60% of the time, you could be a billionaire in 10 years
You can make it anon, I believe in you.
>>547918940so that's why those ads look like the game is played by a retard!turns out I was the retard all along
>>547918786a candle that burns twice as bright... light up the whole room! :)
im glad i didnt make my game idea from a year ago "Raise a Kanye". that wouldve been a disaster.
>>547918595>Very Positive (1,271)
>>547918786I have quadrupled my dev skills over the years but my speed and productivity has dropped insanely low. But I am working up to full days now so I will finally reach godtier dev output.The primary motivation right now is deadlines. An evil and dark thing, but it's power cannot be denied.
>>547919389I meant the first game https://store.steampowered.com/app/1135260/The_Falconeer_Revolution_Remasterwhich got under 300 reviews in 5 years but I now see it got a remaster this month.
>>547919545could it be that as your dev skills increase you actually do more planning than you did before? even if all that planning is in your head while staring at some new script you just created and how it fits in with everything else. in that case if increased planning is what slows a dev down as their skills increase... perhaps there's some way to get better/faster at planning itself.
>>547919545>I have quadrupled my dev skills over the years but my speed and productivity has dropped insanely lowmany such cases. I used to come up with and implement features in an hour or two, now it takes me about 3x as long.
>>547917149>>never submitted to DDpic related>never posted keys herehe offers them on liqcord>feigned being /ourguy/ to get supportdidn't the game get reviewbombed by trannies because he's /ourguy/?>drove out other devs from this communityafter fleeing?
>>547919730aka spending less time planning yet come out with exactly the same plan anyway. i do an immense amount of planning now, i think its my bottleneck.
>>547919828what does DD actually -do- for me? only other devs are going to see my game right? not sure how that helps me.
Anyone has an image with a guy with badly photoshopped rock fists? I saved it from agdg 10 years ago. Can't find it anymore.
>>547919549it sold more on xbox
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>>547920364easy for him to say. we all felt the same when making our first game but you don't know until you get your first flop. my first flop (after 2 successful-enough games) almost destroyed me.
>>547915259Are you the guy having schizo freakouts about wanting to make a multiplayer webgame? Judging by those displays I wouldn't doubt you're the famous peri thread schizo.
Uhhh steamcucks? >>547920253
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2319790/Captain_Wayne__Vacation_Desperation/For the same price, why did this sell more than Cosmic Call?
>>547917057Pretty sure there are at least 2 or 3 of these exact games releasing or released right now.
anyone who needs to become a better coder or game dev look up "heuristics for coders" or "heuristics for game devs". you'll find some bullshit then among the bullshit some useful ones that speed up your dev speed.
>>547919973Getting playtesters isn't exactly easy.
>>547921028What if I just deliver a completely polished demo because I already have playtesters
>>547920364Winners win.
>>547920598>she doesn't know about Air Pear
>>547920364I'll never give up.So long as my girlfriend keeps bankrolling my devtime.Even if it takes years and years of staying at home, while my girlfriend does the 9 to 5.I'll never give up!
>>547921239Stardew Valley was very obviously gmi when AirPear flopped.
>>547917115Yeah he mentioned this one in the golden age articlehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3762550/HELLMART/singleplayer but the same premise, horror shop sim. Then you have the co-op friendslop shop sim with a twist Roadside Research https://store.steampowered.com/app/3911640/Roadside_Research_Demo/ So you can expect horror co-op shop sims anyday now.
>>547919973Playtesters. You can never have too many of them.
>>547916807I had that issue. My guess would be the vertices didn't line up perfectly, and that there was a difference on the order of a float epsilon in the position. But I didn't investigate it.
>>547921295It's a sacrifice she will have to make. It's for our future babe.
>>547921475The premise actually makes a lot of sense thematically, it's like applying the "monster as metaphor" formula to a wagey simulator
>>547917057>>547917115>AI is just repeating what ZUKCHADIMUS THE ECELEB saysoh no no xisters no what is my reactionsponse?
i know not many people do this, but the pros recommend it. i used to think it was dumb. now i think its kinda enlightening to know exactly what your about to make before you make it.it's where you make diagrams/etc of the entire software your about to create, all its systems, how they connect, how theyre layered, etc. they used to just do it on a whiteboard now there's apps idk.for game dev specifically there's a diagram for your game's software architecture then another for its gameplay systems. once you make the chart its quite nice to just be able to look at it at any time.
>>547921794Zukberg is no better than ai-sloppa?
joshua won
>>547922002just make a prototype and see if it's fun and then worry about architecture.
i was wrong about Zukowski. i kneel to the GOD.
>Oly 12% of Gen Z secures full-time employment by graduation, versus 40% of earlier graduates, per FORTUNEStill better odds than making it at gamedev I guess
>>547920616it was a launch title for the x/s. when is steam 2 coming out? maybe we can get in on that
>>547922421BOOTSTRAPSThats it, thats the shit
>>547922421even part time employment in the service industry dwarfs the income the average solo gamedev can expect in the current year
>>547920665better art. you can actually make out the designs. cosmicdev is improving though, his latest designs are cool
>>547921475imagine that but you run a food truck. I should make that. multiplayer too. like bigtop burger friendslop vibes
i think its dumb how unity's physics step is separate from the render loop. physics by default is 50 ticks per second and the render loop is 60 frames per second or whatever the player's monitor refresh rate is. that's why when i fuck with unity i tick the option to bind the physics step into the render loop instead so physics runs as fast as they can render it.
>>547922968this is because it fixes a lot of timing issues with your own code if you know the only main loop in your entire game is ONE LOOP not two loops operating at two different timesteps. i only want one main loop in my game idk about you. eliminates many race conditions in your own code and just general confusion about whether something you coded belongs in Update or FixedUpdate. nope, its all in Update now.
cobbe
>>547923109not to mention this reduces input lag. the player and other physics objects only move at 1/50th of a second. you captured input in update now it has to WAIT for the next FixedUpdate to actually move anything. yea sure if you bind the physics step into the render loop the game slows down from 240fps to maybe 160fps but so what thats because your running physics at 160fps instead of 50fps, and you get less input lag.
>>547922002I think that's called whitepapers. Similar to a game design document but purely technical.
>>547922421>secures full-time employment by graduationSo they have a job waiting for them while they graduate? That happens for almost nobody anyway, regardless of generation.
>>547923293The main place where input lag matters is with camera movement, which you can separate from the physics update (both translation and rotation).It's usually considered a good idea to avoid making the physical behavior of the game highly framerate dependent. Running physics at 160 fps is probably not a great idea desu, you'll get weird situations like in Quake games where certain framerates give you better jump distances etc.
>>547922002>but the pros recommend it.No they don't. Academics recommend it because they don't have to write software, they just have to go through the process of writing software and show that they're writing software in order to get grants. Nobody in the real world has ever used a UML diagram for any real technical purpose.The other people who use it are managers and moneymen, they probably want some kind of whitepaper or plan before they'll fund a project, so a document like that might get created as part of a project pitch which the managers and moneymen won't even read but are glad to have it. But unless you're literally building a console port of some game that already exists you won't need it.If you're a solo dev you don't need any form of documentation at all. Whitepapers and GDDs are just ideaguying with a word document. I keep random notes of when I have ideas, but the notion that I should formalize any of it into some structured document is retarded
I wish I worked in a studio where we could have fun and make goofy progress videos. That's how you make fun games.
>>547926052its called YouTube Devlogs
>>547872225its just facepunchs own code thats open source, not source 2. big wet nothingburger unless you love working with pre-alpha software that breaks every 2 days
>>547886708music and story. let me make a masterpiece since there are none in the current year. there are some no code engines I can use, I think. currently though I'm just a stupid programmer.
>>547926148except Josh Sawyer was (according to him) getting paid $200k/year when he was making that video. hard to be fun and goofy when realistically you're looking at $0.50 an hour from your game.
joshua. won.
>>547926148its not the same
>>547926504I agree. look at that smug asshole
>>547926052me on the right
>>547919828>liqcordWhat liqcord?>didn't the game get reviewbombed by trannies because he's /ourguy/?Made up controversy to get support here>after fleeing?Before
Anyone who shits on idea-guying reveals their inexperience making games. In the process of making any substantial game that isn't a 1-to-1 copy of another game, you will have to at some point come up with ideas for interesting things for the player to do. The only reason idea-guying has a bad reputation is because pretty much everyone is terrible at actually doing it and so wants to pretend it isn't necessary.
>>547889784
Ay, ay, yah yahI'm a Steamie, I love slopI don't play any games that flopGabencunt stole all my gamesBut it's alright cause steamie sales
>>547886708I would definitely max out marketing because that minimizes the amount of initial effort I have to put in my game, a good salesman can even sell cookies to a girl scout so I can make low effort trash and still sell itThe other one would probably be music just because it's so fucking hard to learn normally, it's not logical at all
>>547926052Tim Cain in the background eating chocolate and not giving a fuck about this PR monkey business
>>547926917I keep getting "good idea" on adgd. but listening to agdg isn't always a good idea!
rate my demohttps://files.catbox.moe/uuvmqw.mp4
>>547886708>didn't list game designI'd max out game design and marketing. Nubby graphics is all you need in 2025.
>>547927491>malformed mp4 gives remote accessnot falling for this trick a third time nigga
>>547927181If you listened to Zuk then you'd know that a bad product may simply be unmarketable, no matter how much effort you put in to marketing.The steam algorithm will sniff out your game's mediocrity with astonishing speed and flatline it. Now your marketing skills will really have a chance to shine, given that Steam sure isn't going to send you any traffic.Good luck converting those facebook ad impressions and views from the one or two streamers you convinced to play your terrible-looking game, though.
Literally nobody played my game.. UNDERSTAND?????? DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND???
Dudes I just wanna say, don't give up. We need to persevere and keep building it and just keep going. Even with all the doubt and uncertainty.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT3qac20_m8NEVER HEX YOURSELF
>The steam algorithm will sniff out your game's mediocrity with astonishing speed and flatline it.fucking steamies man
>>547926052i can tell they're all jewish. they'd never hire a goy.
Did he wake up or something?
if you know you released a good game, you would be shilling it by word of mouth, playing it for fun with your online friends.if you're trying to trick people, you know.
if you are making a quake clone, kill yourself.
>>547928083>>547928118>>547928220samefag
What did you guys do to the goblindev?
My banana had black spots now I can't dev
>>547928357are the black spots tarantula eggs?
>>547928220well, if you say so
>>547927938If you can get an alternate source of traffic and maybe even sell the game on your website, I consider that unfathomably based... but it's very rare to be successful that way
i wish i could get paid to work at an indie game studio of 5-20 people. is it really hard to get hired? i have no degree lol, but i did say INDIE studio and 5-20 people is very indie.
>>547928354gave him advice on what to do when he jumps on goblins heads. he probably just left for /v/ because he's knows what's good for him
>>547928505>alternate source of trafficyou need to do this on Steam as well, it doesn't give you any serious real traffic anymore. they openly said as much in one of their steamworks videos
>>547928582pretty easy if you are a woman.
Making and releasing a bad game is not the end of the world. Just change your dev name and go make the next game.
>>547929001If I release a bad game I will keep improving it until it's not bad anymore.
>>547929001depends why it was considered bad. abandoned in early access? yeah change it.
Grok says indie studios will fight to hire you if you know how to implement multiplayer
>>547929001This was true 5 years ago, but we're much closer to the "end of the world" at least for gamedevs. In 2027 most players will be playing personalized games created by AIs of big companies.
>>547926052god, if i could capture the classic indie game dev experience of working in a physical studio with a bunch of quirky yet intelligent nerds, that would be the dream. i'd do it for $12/hour just to be there.
>>547872118So this person was just making art for money instead of personal enjoyment? They should've just said that to begin with. Would've been a lot quicker to type out
>>547889184>due to unity retardation.Explain
>>547929417agdg is a poor approximation of that experience but it's all we got...
>>547920364Honest question. Has this guy ever had a real 9-5? Working a few hours a week at a movie theater doesn't count.
>>547928631I think he off 4chan for good. It couldn't be something as simple as advice like that, that got him off.
Rate the topology
>>547903425>I would be so gutted to see this reaction to my game not meeting expectationsWhy would you have high expectations about a bad game? That seems silly.
>>547929417>tfw you will never share Steam chocolate with the team while eating pizza, drinking and playing some coop games together on Friday evening
>>547929417imagine it's the year 2007 and indie game profitability is increasing 60% year over year until 2016. anything you release is -guaranteed- to profit. the studio has 3 cute nerdy 2000s quirk chungus girls who are single and dont know what their standards should be since no social media or smart phones yet. you have 8 highly intelligent straight male nerd coworkers and best friends, you're all cut from the same cloth. society considers you all geniuses just for knowing how to make games and code, you're involved in the hottest space, the indie tech boom.
>>547929879So god awful that I'm guessing it's AI sloppa
>>547930032that was me after graduating and getting my first job, but now I'm here with nothing.
>>547929417I'd love that too but I'd bring literally nothing to the table, I am good at nothing so there's no way.
>>547930032>anon at lunch break at his game studio in Japan talking about the next project
>>547929879remesh + decimate AI model award
watch the show Silicon Valley to see whats been stolen from you.
>>547929853this guy? >>>/v/726820752
was this one by an aggydaggy dev?
>>547930268>>547930382Yes but wanted to see if it was salvageable. I'm contemplating quickly retopoing with shrinkwrap but I think it's good enough desu
>>547929302How much will they pay me>inb4 the same as the girl who makes day in the life tiktoks
>>547929940>high expectations about a bad gameMy game gets lots of praise! it cant' be bad.
>>547930032>>547930330STOP IT
>>547929417>>547929651>>547930032Great, now I want to make a dumb little throwaway story game about this concept
>>547930784sorry to resurrect old memories of our long dead dreams anon. but it was time.
>>547930330chad only
That's it I'm building my 7 man dream team. We vill have a very fun gamedev studio>me>branno>marmo>kyubu kyubu daisu naisu dev>dungeon watchers flat tummy enjoyer>snowball dev>maid cafe dev
>>547930580I don't recognize it but it looks similar tohttps://aura-dev.itch.io/star-knightess-auraWhich is from an agdg dev but I've only ever seen a handful of posts from him, he doesn't post often.
guys there's this concept called "7DFPS" (7 day fps) where people make fps games in 7 days and they look pretty good. if you could actually make one as good as the ones im seeing every 7 days and put each on steam i bet you'd make decent money before you even put your 10th one on there (2 months 10 days of work)
>>547886708This is shrimple, if you can only choose two skills to be great in and assuming 0 means you can't do it at all.>Programming>3d artThese two synergize best and allow you to make a videogame.Not all games need levels, networking, story, or even music. You only need one art style so pixel and hand are redundant. I chose 3d because programmatically animated 2d looks like pure, liquid Redditor diarrhea.Audio elements and marketing are best suited for specialized subcontractors.
>>547931412Seems like a real good way to get your games classified as "shovelware"
>>547930659you could learn real 3d modeling in the time it would take to fix that thing
>>547928220I don't mind people making quake clones. It seems like a bit of a mistake for reasons that it is not necessary to divulge, but probably a decent way to make $10-50k with a little luck
>>547924684>>547926917If you actually make games you aren't an idea guy, that's just called game design.
>>547927938If it were any other defacto storefront you would be crying about it as well.
>>547929396>In 2027 most players will be playing personalized games created by AIs of big companies.Things will be extremely different in a few years but somebody has to do that hard work and so far nobody is stepping up to the plate.It is already 2026 basically and there are still no AI games being churned out. You think everything is going to turn around in 1 year?Actual game devs are still required to make games.
>>547928686huh, maybe it's all about youtubers and streamers now. Sad, relying on an impersonal algorithmic god to dump impressions on my game seems cleaner
>>547929879How many more days are you going to spend posting about this? Just finish the fucking model and show us after it's done. >Starting retopo!!>Hmm midway through retopo, should I keep going?!>Oohh check out my retopo! Would you retopo this like I did?>Here's my retopo! (Unfinished with missing fingers) Thoughts?!You must be the Galuden dev with this amount of validation seeking.
>>547930784lol so true.
>>547926052>>547929417>>547930032Self pity wallowing in misery hours already?
>>547929879Uuuuhhhh what happens at 0,0,0???
>>547931297>mePASS
>>5479324760,0,0 is the origin
>>547932379i look like this fr
>>547932379Big Bokki Bitties
>>547931575i dont get how this 81 year old youtuber is more tech savvy than me. i was there in the 90s when he was 50 and i know 50 year olds back then were incredibly tech illiterate. so idk how he even learned this shit. every 81 year old i know has dementia.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tKj8IjllDE
>>547932589Ooh, that's where the big bang happens!
>>547932281Omg so true sis
>10% cut for AAA and 20% for super high performing non AAA games, the rest get 30%>your game is now susceptible to be removed at any point due to payment processor bullshit>refund policy completely fucks over devs, valve claims refund system is not "for trying out games" yet lets users refund for reasons such as "not fun" or "purchased by accident" (yeah like that fucking happens)>systematically crippled the promotion algorithms to disadvantage devs and only benefit already selling ones>steamworks ui is outdated and obtuse, some systems like uploading trailers are straight up broken and require you to reupload the same file literally 50 times>incapable of maintaining their storefront and keeping away the botsSteamies defend this.
>>547930541I must have missed that. My bad.
>>547933071Post progress
>>547933071>Yeah well.. Gaben is.. F-Fat!This is all they have. Imagine if Gaben gets home gyms installed on his yachts and gets billionaire cut like Bezos did.What will you fags cry then? Will you just release on Steam and admit defeat?
spent all day on shaders I will probably replace in a month.i didn't see a neovaginer today though, so... win?
>>547933602You gained some experience and learned a thing or two. Just because the code gets trashed doesn't mean it's wasted.
>>547933602Fake Cris post this is an old photo. His hair is much thinner now and an island is forming.
its habbening>>>/v/726887014
>>547933852I agree. I literally don't give a shit about AI. Stop giving retards like the ai xisters something to complain about and let them see for themself that AI sloppers simply can't make games.
>>547933408>This is all they have.Lmao retarded steamie. His fatness is the icing on the cake, I wrote out legitimate complaints that you just ignored because you know that shit is indefensible from a dev standpoint.
>>547933602thats the real cris? where's he live, the favelas of venezuela?
I am Elf.
>>547933852kek, he wants to start integrating AI slopgen into Unreal Engine ASAP and needs steam to update their policies to make it more viable for his users
>>547934063>I wrote out legitimate complaintsImagine complaining.
anyone want to watch a 35 hour long video of Notch coding a 7DFPS in 2013?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFJXOZY35qA
>>547933071>refund policy completely fucks over devs, valve claims refund system is not "for trying out games" yet lets users refund for reasons such as "not fun" or "purchased by accident" (yeah like that fucking happens)They were forced to implement refund policy by law, so this one's not their fault.What is their fault is how they've brainwashed people so much that customers legitimately think Valve implemented refunds because of pro-consumer views and not because they were forced to by law, conveniently forgetting how many years they didn't have refunds and how many millions they spent fighting in court against refunds.
>>547931297I watch branno's video and its clear that he doesn't really like games and doesn't understand what makes them fun. he's some SQL query monkey and thinks he can design games because he writes code for this day job. just been floundering on prototypes, recently just trying to clone DomeKeeper and not realizing why that game is fun. as long as all the systems are in place, magically it will come together?
>>547934150>be new to gamedev>decide to make some game with a world>start creating the worldclassic mistakemake the core gameplay before this anon
>>547929879>>547932902why do you have ngons on the torso, go learn topology basics instead of running an ai model through some retarded retopo tool
>>547934168It's particularly funny reading through the thread and thinking that you can't just lie about it.They also think that the repercussions are severe when the only thing you get is Valve politely asking you to put the label back on, and by the time that happens you've already reached critical mass to be promoted by the algorithm.
>>547933842not meant to be a cris post I just like the picture
>>547934457>They were forced to implement refund policy by law, so this one's not their fault.Were they forced a "no questions asked within 2 hours" policy by law? I get that they had to add them but I doubt Australian law demanded them to go about it in this particular way.This also doesn't justify reasons such as "not fun" or "purchased by accident" being present.I agree with the rest of your statement.
>>547934567This is just a window to visualize the headless simulation which will be able to seamlessly swap out any renderer.I just had to see the lands I was generating, a bit of a glimpse.
>>547934985wheres the game bro
umm... i just realized im not happy. maybe game dev isnt for me.
>>547934851whining about users potentially refunding your game is really funny. ohhhh nooo bros, 4% of buyers might get a refund, what about my bottomlinerino???
>>547935185solo?
>>547934624Thanks for all the input now I know for sure that it's good enough
>>547935287This.
>>547935287The average is around 10%.And I like that the refund policy is so generous because I want players to take a chance on my game.>>547933071>refund policy completely fucks over devs, valve claims refund system is not "for trying out games" yet lets users refund for reasons such as "not fun" or "purchased by accident" (yeah like that fucking happens)I have more players that have bought the game and never opened it than I have refunded purchases.
what the hell does steam do with all the money from the 30% cut of 120,000 games? they sure arent using it to pay their employees (they make $50M profit per employee) or help indie devs or even AA/AAA devs in any way
There's 10 kinds of people in this world.Those who understand binary, and those who don't.Only the coders out there will get this one ;)
>>547936075>And I like that the refund policy is so generous because I want players to take a chance on my game.it's not, though?I bought PoE 2 and played it for 50 minutes and then forgot to refund it for 10 days, and then tried and I got denied for "waiting too long"
>>547936075>And I like that the refund policy is so generous because I want players to take a chance on my game.you saying this gives me deja vu. ive heard others say this over the years here and elsewhere. every time i hear it, i remember something strange, like some past life matrix simulation thing, where i was watching a video of a really old lady like 70 year old on youtube explaining why steam having a leniant refund policy is a good thing, and that we're thinking about it wrong, and that it's good because it makes more players take a chance on our game. it was surreal because a 70 year old woman was explaining it. so every time someone says what you just did, i have this deja vu.
Success breeds jealousy.
have confidence in your visionfinish a bad game fastdon't endlessly tweak a good game
>>547936389You're thinking of Thomas Brush interviewing Jeff Vogel
>>547935050I am making it. Custom Engine.
>>547936527>don't endlessly tweak a good gameBokube....
Binary is land and sea walking on both like angels
The reason why I think it's good enough btw is because of all things wrong with the model I already knew that you didn't mention, it's not what you said it's what you didn't say>>547936263What about big endian believers
meow
>>547936263*playfully tilts fedora in your direction*
>>547936075>The average is around 10%.And it's only this big because Valve allows gamertards to abuse the refund system heavily.For example you should not be allowed to refund the game for reasons such as "not fun" has a demo or "purchased by accident" if it's not included in any bundles.Don't want to do that? Then don't factor in refunds in promotion algorithms, because they get heavily skewed by retards just like reviews are.
ERP?
>>547935287lmao so true. There are so many miserable people trying to get in on this profession. They don't realize it's not Steam holding them back and they would be like this with literally any other thing they pipe dream about.
>>547914170>>547912704now that its morning in case anyone missed my songs here. i made them with ai. i am very talented
>>547930784>if only you knew how good things could have been
>>547936613I'm gonna be real with you guys, I couldn't even get through Bokubes tutorial. I don't want to be mean but yeah.
>>547937085Kino pic haven't seen that one before.
>>547936182I heard Gaben has a pretty nice yacht
>>547936829Tricky madness dev posted this btw >>547936829
>>547937085if you were making games in the late 90s you were guaranteed to be a millionaire or possibly billionaire 10-15 years later. the 00s was also a golden age for just working at game studios
i've spent roughly the last six months studying and experimenting with game design and i think the main conclusion i've come to is that the only thing that makes a game truly bad is confusionwhen you're confused you don't know how long it'll take to solve the problem and that stresses people outpeople don't generally enjoy stressful games, and the stragglers of that demographic are already fully captured by PvP games and speedrunningminimize confusion and your game will be enjoyed
>>547937438I think Romero showed it and pointed out various pieces of hardware in one of his talks from a few years agoIt's so kino, I dream of deving in a space like that
>>547937610Tim Cain was making games in the late '90s and early '00s and now he's living on Youtube memberships.
>>547937735>minimize confusion and your game will be enjoyedBut at the same time, you can't hold their hand the entire timeThere's a balance you gotta strike, if the solutions are too obvious you just bore people, but if they're too complex then they'll just drop the game
gwehehehehe
>>547936637>>547936829>>547936995This tranny is just polluting the thread with garbage, I hope either AI chad, Joshua or Fygoon wakes up and shits down its throat (there goes your erp).
>>547937513he cute >>547936182Are you saying $50M per employee is not enough for the work they do at Valve, or that every company should redistribute its profits equally to all employees?
>>547938408Kill yourself back to >>>/biz/, this is the amateur gamedev general.
>>547937735>>547938062It's a two way street however. Sure the game shouldn't be too confusing but the player also shouldn't be a retard. And what you'll find is 90% of players are retards. Even something as requiring the players to pay attention to the character dialogue or be attentive to the environment is too much. It's why AAAs have obnoxious UIs spelling everything out, and why vampire survivors clones are popular (they are extremely basic design wise and don't confuse retards due to their primitivism.
>>547938290cringe
lol>>>/3/1021771
>>547933852uh oh luddie meltie incoming
>>547938780HES FVARKING HEREDEATH TO 'DITES
>>547937610>if you were making games in the late 90s you were guaranteed to be a millionaireBro come on.
>>547938062>if the solutions are too obvious you just bore peoplethis is also true, but although it's only one game, the success of skyrim indicates that people are very tolerant of linear experiences if the game has intrinsic appeal elsewhere, such as the art, or the story, or the atmosphere, or the mechanicsconfusion can be good if the game is deliverately designed for it, like a puzzle game, but there are some cases where it's completely negative, such as if the player lacks any meaningful sense of directioni think the fantasy experience the game proposes relates to how much confusion is permitted, but it's a hard balance to findgood game design is very difficult
>guys I matter look I'm spamming the thread and shitposting I matter so much guys please tell me I matterHis parents done fucked him up good.
>>547938558Why didn't you tell the guy I replied to, to kill himself for starting the topic to begin? Hypocrite much?
I'm kinda scared I'm releasing my vibe coded game in december and I wonder if the AI fucks up and is unable to fix the bugs that will come up I'm properly fucked since I'm just an artist and did basically 0 code outside of tweaking numbers and UI.
>>547939119t. confirmed pedofile
>>547937857Sandy Peterson mentioned on twitter recently that times are tough for him.afaict he's now trying to farm x engagement for the elonbux, although at least he's producing a lot of good/interesting posts in the process
>>547939119Yeah the boshart spammer pedo is mildly annoying, thankfully some brave souls are fighting against its evil ways.
>>547939116One of my favorite games, Moon Remix RPG Adventure is confusing as fuckBut the art/music/characters carry it so hard that you can't even get upset about being able to spend more time playing itI was putting 12 hour sessions in, loved it so much
>>547938632Na. You're the retard. Gamedevs are magicians. If you go on stage and perform a trick, but 90%+ of your audience didn't even understand what you're trying to show them, then your act is shit. If you fail to focus your audience's attention on the things you want them to focus on, then that's your fault.
>>547939458
>>547930580no lolthat dev is japanese
>>547938632>what you'll find is 90% of players are retardsthis relates to what i said in >>547939116 about skyrim being extremely simple and still widely appreciatedi think the industry in general skews heavily towards the casual audience, people who enjoy confusion are in the extreme minoritya good way to gauge general player preference on this is to find games of varying complexity and check their completion rates through steam achievementsit's common for clicker games to have something like 90%+ completion rates, while games with steep learning curves are lucky to have a 50% completion rate of the very first missioni think cruelty squad, a confusing game, has a ~30% completion rate of the first mission after the tutorial or something absurd like that
>>547933852>hates valve>luvs AITimmy is truly /ourguy/
>>547939735stand up soldier, we got to fight against the pedo ' di t 3 s
Thomas Brush just dropped an interview with American McGee!
>>547937735Google "the witness"
Should I model boots or hooves for her?
>>547940070
>>547940203that thigh gap is not doing good
>>547939698average gamer never wants confused or challenged and wants handholded and rewarded for everything. not that i care, but it is dumb.
>>547940203Hooves have more personality
>>547940203the covered legs look better with the design IMO, so boots, or stockings even
>>547939481>comparing apples to orangesI can tell you're a gamer with an IQ of 80.
how do i make a fun gameplay loop
>>547940449skinner box mechanics
>>547940330Yeah the legs are a mess, I've only focused on the butt so far since it'll be visible either way but I'll try to clean that up
>>547940203i cant tell if youre a homosexual or a pedofile
>>547939698>preference on this is to find games of varying complexity and check their completion rates through steam achievements>it's common for clicker games to have something like 90%+ completion rates, while games with steep learning curves are lucky to have a 50% completion rate of the very first mission>i think cruelty squad, a confusing game, has a ~30% completion rate of the first mission after the tutorial or something absurd like thatGamers don't play games at all. Even bitch basic games like GTA or CoD have less than 30% people completing them if you judge by steam achievements.You don't seem to play games.
Where can I find a German voice actress that can do a convincing loli voice for my game?
hell yeah get 'em joshthis is what they deserve
You all laugh at this game, yet it's better than a majority of aggydaggy games.
based josh
I would rather look at Joshua's blankposts than your NGMI neverdev/flopdev garbage.
stop breaking the thread
>>5479404431. Apples and oranges absolutely can be compared.2. Gamers with 80 IQ learn and play games far more complicated than whatever garbage you're making. If they are struggling to learn your game, then your game is simply doing a terrible job at teaching and/or motivating them to learn. (e.g. If it's obvious your game is janky/ugly/low-quality/short/low-content, why the fuck would they want to put in the effort to learn it?)
>>547939481The way I see it, if a gamer misses something obvious, then that's my bad as developerBut if a non-gamer misses something, then git gud
>>547940709
>>547940709I can do it, although im a fat dude and im not even german
>>547940070That's crazy. He's really becoming the top channel right now in my opinion.
>>547940301>be janitor>see report spam from known retard spammer who crashes the thread who thinks he's clever because he dodges bans >ignore There, saved you some time.
did you guys know that a gamer 20-30 years ago would've thought your game was for the gayest faggots if it so much as had quest arrows pointing which way to go? you were expected to figure it all out yourself.
>>547940709Thinking about getting one too, once I get everything else working
>>547941936what are you retarded?
>>547942036
>>547940709>>>/wsg/6038000
ITS UPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDfdgH1ZIaw
i still think quest arrows or whatever they're called are gay as shit. will literally never play a game with them
>>547942034This general is full of thirdies who are only in it for the money. 20-30 years ago they were eating the bones off their parents who were shot dead by a gang of raiders in whatever brown shithole they spawned in.
>>547943057So full of hate.You have no games by the way. You're not a gamedev and you have no right to gatekeep this thread. Feel free to quit larping anytime.
A lot of famous creators never got any recongition until after they died, like Van Gaugh, or Franz Kafka. These people spent their lives in poverty, and they were shitted on when they were alive, and their works got found out and appreciated only after they died.What makes you think a similar concept is not applicable to games?
i just had a revelation. it is no longer necessary for me to speak to people online (including in text form like here) nor read what a real person has to say, ever again. aka never communicate with a real person online again. i can just speak to ai and watch anime. real people are a waste of time.
>>547942790I used to hate them as a gamerbut as a game developer I understand why they're there. bethesda had to put them in oblivion because for many quest they couldn't give directions because everything was voice acted and objective locations could be anywhere because of their "radiant" quest system
>>547942667Oh boo hoo the video game store won't let me sell my game.Fucking shut up.
i dont get why everything is centralized in our economy. steam has 95% control of games. amazon 95% control of ecommerice. etc its like that anywhere. in a better world i thought there'd be 10 or more near equally sized competitors in every area. what happened to antitrust laws?
Its lud'over
>>547943432Bob's Game?
>>547943730blame idiots who prefer discord to irc and who prefer 4chan to forums
>>547943373This might actually be possible for certain games that are off-putting but have a lot of depth
>>547943730and once they get total monopoly they put a stranglehold on the entire industry with their greed and keep raising fees and regulations and rules etc leaving people nowhere else to go
>>547943730>zoom zoom first realization about capitalism
>>547942034>>547942790>>547943057Back to >>>/v/ nodevs
>>547942875Almost bought the GZDoom engine FPS "Supplice" until they rug pulled by revealing the character is non-White on the Steam storefront page.Not even present ingame, I don't believe there are any mirrors (I only played the first level or two in the demo thoughbeit, since I was unable to buy the game) just got a diverse individual doing the screaming algorithm face for marketing purposes.I don't know what think tank or agency is advising people to do this but when I see the based face on a promotional piece of art it has an anti-buy effect. When you compound that by making the character not a man and not White it just goes beyond anything my suspension of belief can allow.
>>547943747Where is the fun?
>>547943819Ahaha Bob's Game I haven't thought of that in years, Robert Pelloni was a characterI used to post on the Bob's Game forums even
>>547943747eventually these features are gonna work, but right now they're all shitty trailers without a working productso I can laugh:hahaha, you're stupid!
>>547943373>gives a shit about recognition after he dies>gives a shit about what happens after he dieswhat is this mental illness called?
>>547943730In capitalism, winner takes allSame goes for your game if you intend to copy a game, your game has be magnitudes better with the base of said game in addition to something new or why would they switchBetter can be many things, recency and the competitor may shoot themselves in the foot
>>547943991>>547944021where is your game?
>>547944159wheres yours?
i think its time an indie dev makes a spiritual successor to "Hatred" a contraversial game about an angry white guy randomly killing minorities and shit. its on steam since 2015 and people were mad about it
>>547944027>moving the goalpostSmartest /agdg/ turdine.
My enemy script keeps getting bigger and bigger.
>>547944208i asked first
>>547944208This guy >>547944159 is a yesdev the screenshot is from his game. Nodev sisters... Our response??Inb4 you slither away or change your posting style having been exposed once more as a pretender
>>547944309>doesn't understand what moving the goalpost means
>>547944370can i see it?
>>547944381'dites won't like this one
>>547944159Uh oh meltie
>>547944464No.
' s lost, AI Ch'a'd yesdevs won
Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.About 700 games in the week around your release.AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2025HahahahahaH O B B YOBBY
>>547943501I'm white. Tired of your noise. You're dysgenic. See the things that live rent free in your head that you babble about all the time, trannies, brown people etc. I don't care about that. I'm doing things. You are dominated mentally by those things because you are less than them. You're weak. You're noise. Go away.
>>547944856kanna...
>>547944908>' s lost, AI Ch'a'd yesdevs wonCan someone translate this?
>>547945034here you go saar
>>547943423>hermit maxingbased
>>547944159FVARKKKKKKKKKK YESDEVCHAD MERCY ON THE 'DITES
>>547944998>I'm white.>trannies, brown people etckek faggot
>>547944908Imagine going to the gym and having some pedo trans freak with pink hair tell you that you cannot use this powertool because it's too good.
what i dont understand about my life is, when i was a kid in 5th grade and prior i was popular and everyone liked me, even teachers liked me and often would exclude me from group punishments like "everyone's punished!! ...except him he's cool lol". then i changed schools in 6th grade and everyone hated me, except girls who thought i was a Chad, but i had a few friends but they were all nerds. then by 9th grade even the nerds hated me and the teachers hated me and all girls hated me, everyone did. from then on i became more hated by the year until 10 years later it was at ridiculous unbelievable levels and i was relegated to a weird loser living alone in a trailer.
We care not of such things.
>>547945382the tranny is also trespassed but keeps showing up anyway
>>547945484Kek, good point.
Why do AI posters keep focusing on pedos when most pedos don't hate AI?
all AIsirs are pedos thoughtbeit
>>547945712post game
game character idea: Miss Kito. some slut wearing a mosquito outfit
>>547945712>>547945789xis 'ters your response?
>>547944910I'll do itYou'll see
game idea: you're the janny in charge of making /vg/ hospitable
>>547942667What is that nice piano melody that is always in his videos? It gets stuck in my head.
trainwiz???
How difficult is GameMaker's programming language to learn if you have no programming experience?
>>547946352Hey, I'm technically a toy/media company CEO.
>>547946581just use ai
>>547946352How many corporate cocksuckers are freaking out over that statement?
>>547946581in truth, game maker language is ugly. and that ugliness in my opinion makes it harder to understand. javascript, in my opinion, is similar to game maker language but much prettier and overall easier to learn in my opinion. what's not as easy is creating your javascript project, aka setting it up to be able to make your games. not easy compared to game maker at least. but we're talking about the language itself, well, game maker language is pretty ugly even by python standards, which it is also very similar to. however its fine, doesnt matter that much.
OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE A MODDER SAID WHAT? IM FREAKING TF OUT!!!!! LETS GOSSIP ABOUT THIS
>>547946581>>547947164anyway to be clear, game maker language is definitely in the top 20% of easiest languages to learn for game dev. along with python and javascript and others.AI coding assistants probably know vastly more javascript than game maker code though btw. and AI is going to help you learn a lot faster so...
>>547947232AI xisters? Are we the pedos?
'd'ites are truly the scum of the earth, what the actual fuck
once again anti-AI tranny posts csam
>>547947579>'d'itesthat's ai, retard
>>547946581and im not trying to steer you toward javascript, but you probably dont know that you can accomplish basically the same thing Game Maker provides by downloading VSCode and Tiled Map Editor and Phaser game library (javascript game library) and set up the project to have instant reloading upon changes, you test your game in a browser but its not -necessarily- a browser game because it can easily be exported as an exe and put on steam. yet it is infinitely more flexible than Game Maker.
>>547947651>'dites use AI to produce vile stuff to get AI prohibiteddisgusting evil creatures
>>547947651don't ever reply to me again pedo
>>547947665one reason its infinitely more flexible than game maker is because with javascript you have access to the vast NPM Library of javascript libraries for every conceivable purpose, including any purpose regarding games, so you need to code much less features yourself and instead stitch together existing libraries that already cover your features. game makers library does not even come close. NPM Library is the largest on earth.
>>547947164and btw i know C# and use it all the time but I found learning C# to be 3x harder than javascript because of all the features it has that js doesnt
Foreground done
>>547948306>>547948306>>547948306time to cuffbust outta here
>>547948347>another text screenshot OP because you want everyone to talk about something So boring and self serving.
>>547948517its something that affects us devs just tell me what you want in the op instead, that's how feedback works
>>547904381bing peripeteia
>>547930580No and that's a joke edit. That scene doesn't actually happen in thegame.
>>547875821>>547873827is that really you? i've been waiting for news for years about thisplease make it
