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The Nightmare is Ongoing...
>>547891302


>Useful Links and Resources
https://rentry.org/xngtneuz
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g2Pa8Y6qLJujXg7elUEQKxYQgvG92rY2Hw9iU_qzt2w/edit?gid=1299730493#gid=1299730493

>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming Banner
Yuki - Striker - Order | Until December 3rd

>Current Events/Upcoming Content
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>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the First Update:
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>Developer Note: Upcoming Improvements in the Second Update:
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319239

>Galactic Disaster Content Improvement Update Notice
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11261625

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
Save Data uses a points based system. If you go above a certain threshold, your Save Data will be edited.
https://rentry.co/cznsavedata
https://czn-calc.vercel.app/
https://euri412.itch.io/save-data-calculator
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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>>547923140
Meilin's piss in my mouth
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>>547923286
That's my man
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We really need to stop 3-week banners. They're way too long.
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>>547923498
Us veteranbros need time to save up though.
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HBR is trash.
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>>547923225
The op image is her thanking you for being her emergency personal toilet
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>>547923498
Remember when gachas had a new banner and new event every week? I remember.
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If it were 2 weeks you would bitch that you have no time to save for characters.

In fact the only reason you want the new character asap is because you have a fuckton of apologems stocked up.
As soon as you get hit with a coinflip lose + hard pity you will then whine that there's not enough time to save for characters at 3 weeks per banner.
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>>547923498
Nah, I want them to actually polish the new units they're pumping out. Plus this crystal income is jewish as fuck.
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I'm hungry... keeki doko.....
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>>547923661
I member. Good times.
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Uuuh...I think my Mika is broken.
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>>547923715
OPEN WIIIDE
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Is Rei a good support for Mei Lin/Veronica? My main team is Haru/Mika/Cass and I don't want to move Mika around when I start needing two teams. Am level 43 atm
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>>547923729
Haru...
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https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319112

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319112

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11319112

POST YOUR BITCHING IN THE COMMENTS, NOW IS THE TIME
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>>547923729
>no more free gibs
it's over
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>>547923765
>2 basics
>whirlpool
it's pretty good for early game at least, newbro
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>>547923857
my dick is too big, they wont listen to me...
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>>547923765
Later you would wish that it was 1 draw instead of 1 AP enjoy it while you can
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>>547923923
Basics just keep on coming back even when I remove them.
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Why does memory deletion cost money? Feels like saving your data should cost money and deleting it should be free
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>>547924085
>he also doesn't calculate
douzo
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
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>>547923793
>buffs <=1 cost cards
>buffs basic attacks
>deletes the rest of her deck
yes
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>>547924085
Gotta read up on how save data limits work. There’s calculators online to help too if you want.
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>>547924007
Its all good bro, My Veronica has the drawing part covered.
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>>547923857
Ummm, why would I do that when I can shit up threads here instead?
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>>547923765
How do you like this one
I want one with 6
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>>547923857
>100k credits
No thanks.
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>>547924165
>>547924186
Dang, thats deep, thanks bro but I prefer to play games like this blind, going full calculations can take the fun away when I play.
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can anyone post that guide on how to make a data without cards
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>>547924312
Rallies suck outside of blue pot, I'd rather have 6 confiscations.
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>>547924312
I feel like this deck would be better if you removed the basics instead of adding the rallies. Though if you have someone like Yuki, that might be debatable
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>>547923857
Reminds me of
>"link your Twitch account and watch for 3 hours to earn 1/3rd of a pull!"
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>>547923765
>>547924312
Impressive, however.
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>>547924458
sooner or later the game will put an ingame counter anyway
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>>547924545
I still have never seen reorganize how do I get it?
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>>547923857
>we don't have much void dps, just Kayron
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>>547924458
Me too
Min maxing a single player game seems pointless and is taking the fun of discovery away
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The best mika deck is just q zero-card deck
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>>547924458
It’s explained in the game though, calculators are just a tool to make it easier. I just do it mentally. If you don’t wanna even read the tutorial for it that’s fine but it’s nice to know, like even if you don’t strictly track it I think it feels nice to know what kind of things will cost more save data
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I really like this Chizuru character and her design. Can anyone tell me what this symbol means? I see people associate it with her all the time.
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>>547924458
>thanks bro but I prefer my savedata to get RAPED every run
okay then
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>>547924620
>all enemies are void
yeah this nigga posts here
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>>547924620
Rin, as relatively simple her so-called "complexity" is, still filters a ton of retards.
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>>547924742
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>>547924620
This is the type of mother fucker who is allowed to drive and can probably vote and he might even be raising children, and you just have to sit back and wonder "how?"
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>>547924620
Renoabros...
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>>547924620
Our canon wife...
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>>547924615
It's a Chaos 5 lv25 unlock.
It's weird though because I got the lv30 Blue pot cube while doing Lab0 yesterday and I'm only lv26 Blue pot.
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>>547924615
It really just comes down to RNG. I had a a streak of like 8 Beryl runs without seeing a single Hidden Bullet, for example. You'll see one eventually.
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>>547923857
>scroll down real quick
>"KEEP FEMALES DRESSED DECENTLY LIKE RINOA" (whi the fuck is Rinoa?)
>"MORE MALE CHARACTERS ARE WELCOMED"
>"TITS DON'T HAVE TO BE THIS BIG"
Fucking faggots. Faggots everywhere.
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>>547924632
Even in a 0-card deck, Mika gets outclassed by Nia. What a shame.
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>>547924798
i just found out what izzat means, i thought it was some zoomer lingo...
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Douglas is my nigga. Love that dude
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>>547924620
>DPS
There's no such thing in a turn based game
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>>547924742
It’s from Balatro
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BBC posting is not against the rules, can't find a category to report for
Last time I complained about it I just got banned instead
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>>547924965
It's ok, gacha only ever allow westards to write feedback so that they can completely ignore it while making it look like they listen.
And that's a good thing.
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chaos zero content continues
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>>547925085
>Last time I complained about it I just got banned instead
That's bullshit but I believe it
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>>547925085
Imagine how wet and smelly her drunken farts are
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>>547925085
How is British Broadcasting Corporation related to video games? It's off-topic and offtop is bannable.
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>>547925238
of course you got banned how else would israel groom the internet into liking black cocks and intermix with other races
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This stun mechanic is real fucking cancer.
Imagine if they make enemies spam it.
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>>547925068
Everyone knows what DPS means and you just wanna be pedantic
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>>547925085
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>>547925481
displaced person?
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>>547925068
There is, you just have to play your cards fast enough.
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>>547925481
Dingo Per Shock?
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>>547925481
Dynamic Penis Sucking?
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>>547925481
Dicks per second. Canonically, Rei is the queen of dps
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>Void psionic
Now that's a bigger brick than Yuki.
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I will get my E2 Raiden no matter what game shes in.
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>>547925941
From left to right, biggest dicks in the game to smallest
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>>547926023
the anthem of the hoyotroon
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>>547925068
Damage Per Screenshot bro! The reason why Mei Lin is the best DPS in the game!
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>>547925941
If she supports or gets supported by at least one or two of our four void dps (ok DAMAGE DEALER) then I’ll be happy. If she’s selfish I’ll be so disappointed.
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>>547926180
start getting disappointed
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>>547926043
Kayron blackholed you.
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>>547926180
>Raiden
>Support
Before you start seething that she's not Raiden might i remind you that the retard behind this game is such a hoyodrone that he actually brought up Genshin in an apology.
I don't make the rules.
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>>547925941
>Kayron, Tressa and Rei is actually viable team comp
>meanwhile Rin and Renoa are selfish prick
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>>547926458
>raiden
The hyperbloom bot?
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>>547926285
Yes
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>>547926458
Well support isn’t the right word but there’s ways she could be designed to work together with another dps, especially Kayron if she works with status ailments
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Does this count as an "additional attack", and will it getthe additional attack bonuses?
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>>547926793
honestly i tried this card in a run before and it felt kinda shit, am i missing something?
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>>547926793
No, but it's still pretty good. 200% free damage every turn. Atk% chalice Selena slaps faggots for 500-700 damage on non-crits.
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>>547926753
>Kayron create futility
>Chizuru exhaust it
Holy Shit and then add Adelheid support/healer with exhaust gimmick
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>>547926897
>>547927320
Definitely not worth 80 points.
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She's got the 'tism, bros
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>>547924965
ctrl+F the first five pages and only found one guy saying he wants smaller chested woman
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>>547924458
>ackshually counting is too hard for me
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>>547927428
She would be pretty great if she had on demand exhaust.
Like her big 3-cost card requiring you to sacrifice 2 or 3 cards to either reduce its cost or boost its damage.
In a normal deck you'd just be bleeding yourself to death and eventually run out of cards but with Kayron or Tressa it'd be insane.
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>>547926753
you think their third banner is a KAYRON support? lol.
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save or use for Kayron's assistant?
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>>547927737
Kayron would be the support in that case, providing exhaust fodder.
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>>547927736
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>>547927841
nothing can unbrick kayron
just forget about him
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>>547927494
90 points, you forgot to add an epiphany into account. And not "definitely", it depends.
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>>547927841
we just learned that 3 star partners are better than 5 star partners. do not redeem until everything shakes out.
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>>547923857
most comments are
>it's fun but too grindy
>fun, but it doesn't make yuki shine, makes it feel like she's missing something or is too weak
>it's fun but it's getting boring, hope for more chaos variety
>make epiphanies chances better and/or increase the forbidden cards spawn rate
>level 110+ is too hard
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>>547927692
She's a massive bimbo
What did you expect?
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>>547927959
I think he's very easy to unbrick because he's so mechanically rich, you can have exhaust payoffs, create payoffs, etc. I just dont think theyre going to do so for a long time.
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unless they introduce a new mechanic i think the game is going to be dead
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>>547927841
Bria is free exhaust
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>>547927428
I'm pretty sure the exhaust support would be that vampire shota, since he also has black holes specialty. Putting Chizuru in Kayron's team would probably just lead to koreans setting their office on fire, or worse.
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>>547927976
>we just learned that 3 star partners are better than 5 star partners
That's... uhh... no. Max Douglas is "better" than Max 4*s, but is worse than a base 5* Scarlet.
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if you fuck chizuru you are also fucking this guy btw
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>>547928285
>fucks harder
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>>547928285
wtf I'm gay now?
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>>547923857
>first comment i read
what the FUCK
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>>547924798
its funny that people dont understand what izzat is and just interpret it and simplify it as indian social credit since its the closest thing in their mind
cant complain about an excuse to shit on them I guess
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>>547928453
Hello saar.
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>>547926642
Yes
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>>547926043
I would put Kayron between Renoa and Rin but otherwise accurate yeah
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>>547928379
That's absolutely correct. We need at very least to go up risk 20, maybe 30. 9 is basically a tutorial for some week-long new player.
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>>547927841
Kayron player here with e0 no partner
Im gonna wait for chizurus partner and see how she plays and if she can be useful to him otherwise I will pick bria
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Where's our contest?
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>>547928737
>Mei Lin showcase contest
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>>547928826
You mean Cassius + Veronica + Mei Lin contest
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>>547928737
>Retards here are actually going to self-report themselves to the devs
Lmao
Watch as Mei Lin and Tressa get countered by new mobs that seemingly takes no damage from multihits and agony
Braindead retards lmao
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I tried building different Orleas. One with triple rare sturdies and draw, one with more copies of heaing with retain and draw, and one with rare swifties and morale boosts.
So far, sturdies work best with Tressa as free healing triggers, healing works fine as sustain and Beryl support, but damage dealer Orlea looks the most universal.
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>>547928905
LUKEGODS WIN AGAIN
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you know now that i look at it the doggo is kinda cute
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>>547928905
And watch as Mei Lin and Tressa still one turn them.
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if I had focused on this Mika since the beginning of the run I could have made the data better.
I hate when this happens - I'm focusing on one character but then the game throw me a curveball and I have to work on another.
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BIG TRESSA NERFS INCOMING

I REPEAT

BIG TRESSA NERFS INCOMING

AGONY IS GOING TO GET AN EXCLUSIVE COUNTER BUFF THAT MOST ENEMIES WILL GET ACCESS TO ESPECIALLY BOSSES

ONLY GROUPS WILL NOT GET THIS BUFF

DO

NOT

INVEST
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Which one? This is for the machine gun build.
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Finally cleared crab 9.
A lot of people will say I won because I was using Mei Lin (and it's probably true, but not because she's OP, but because it's the only DPS I have all the potentials for) but what really gave me victory was Nia and Rei.
Rei boosts anyone's damage by a lot and can make decks smaller after starting a fight, and Nia gave me the drawing power I needed to always have the cards I wanted for certain turns.
I probably could've done this faster with Cassius, but I haven't got him just yet.

Anyway, if you wanna do crab with anyone, better start working on your Nia deck.
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>>547929019
Eh, they can work around that. Like those church mobs that are invulnerable for two turns when they hit low hp. Or mobs that attack for every card you play or draw after their action counter ends.
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>>547929073
same, i could have put the forbidden card on somebody else and get a dupe kowalski divinity
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>>547928905
i dont get it. do you play this game to just roll over content with the same decks until EOS?
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>>547924458
The only thing you need to remember is that picking up monster cards will rape your points in the end, and so do removing more than 3 cards.
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>>547929213
she is op dumbass. try it with another DPS.
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>>547929271
Yes.
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>>547929203
If it's for the opening found upgrade build, then it doesn't matter as long as it still retains
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>>547929213
100% this. Nia is solid in general but she really shines in the event because of some of the forbidden cards being very draw focused and even sometimes discard focused
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>>547929271
I'm not that guy, but it really sucks if devs introduce enemies that just hard counter the team you have built. That kinda works in a "box" game, where there are a fuck ton of characters and you can pretty much build all of them with no issues. This is a stingy homosexual clone though, so this isn't really a "box" or a "roster" type of game.
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Erm you guys said no one liked Yuki?
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>>547929203
Doesn't matter since you're never going to use it in an Opening Found deck.
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>>547929529
More like (You)ki
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>>547928737
So, a showcase contest that will be used to define a meta that they'll need to break?
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>>547929529
Wtf how many players bricked their rolls on Haru partner?
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>>547928737
A Mei Lin, Tressa, and Luke contest great.
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>>547929213
Now go do Family Head and see how much of a jobber he is compared to BIG "CRABNINE" KENT
>no poison risk shitting your deck
>no slippery mech, fucking your hands
>less agressive morale stacking, more controllable too
>ST, just him on the screen so random target effects always hit him
>no giga nuke attack that is literally a one shot after turn 6
Maybe Kentris that had too many cancer mechanics now that I'm thinking about this...
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>>547929529
Everyone likes her. She's also extremely strong and almost broken, so they'll nerf her soon by reworking all of her good epiphanies.
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>>547929529
her home screen is pretty nice

what surprised me is the game selling at all considering we got infinite free rolls, yuki was basically free
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Ready for Chizuru.
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>>547929525
>stingy
you have enough rolls to pity six characters. you're arguing for the game to have no challenge. gaywad.
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>>547929759
No the cancer mechanics are good, they make you have to think to play around them. Family head just dies to any decent deck. Though honestly if the bosses came out in reverse order it wouldn’t have felt so weird. I finally beat the crab a day before and was excited to figure out the next boss but he just…dies
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>>547929767
>Almost broken
>3-5k damage compared to Mei Lin's 12k+ otk
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>>547928453
its just the chinese 'saving face' culture taken to the utmost extreme though it isnt that deep
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>>547929220
>church mobs that are invulnerable for two turns when they hit low hp
Just change target when they about to hit 10% then finish them with a high dmg card (Cass 0 cost quest with 1000%+ dmg)
>mobs that attack for every card you play or draw after their action counter ends.
Use Cass ego and after a few finish quests they just deal 0 dmg
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>>547929885
>stingy
You have only ever known homosexual gachas, so you can't even comprehend what I'm saying.

There are games with hundreds of characters and you are able to pull for and roll on most or all of these characters, and you are able to build all of them, with maybe a small handful of them being completely maxed out, but all the others are operating around at least 80% of max. They're "box" or "toolbox" or "roster" type gachas. In this game, you have homo rates with homo pull economy, and they're needing to refund people 80% of the credits they've spent because it's too stingy with leveling resources.
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>>547929405
Sure, once I have the resources to level up the potentials of another one, as I said in the post you clearly didn't read.
>>547929483
Yeah, I was using the Eternal Hunger one and it was pretty useful, I could discard it with Adagio or Mute Accent to keep triggering it, but I also could use it to exhaust it in order to make the deck smaller. I also exhausted a couple more cards with Rei to make this smaller so the engine was pretty consistent in the end.
>>547929759
Yeah, the crab was pretty overtuned. 4 cards per turn was bad, but when it also spawned garbage cards to clog up your deck so in some turns you ended up drawing 4 of them and doing absolutely nothing, that was brutal.
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>>547930183
oh its this guy again. holy shit get a life.
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>>547930043
Fair enough, great point.
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>>547930183
>There are games with hundreds of characters and you are able to pull for and roll on most or all of these characters, and you are able to build all of them, with maybe a small handful of them being completely maxed out, but all the others are operating around at least 80% of max
Which one?
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>>547930239
What are you even talking about? When bosses completely blank out a character, that's fine in a roster type game, but this is not a roster type game. What did I even say that triggered you?
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>>547930043
Yeah, I think the cancer mechanics are good and fun to build around. It's a puzzle you gotta solve and I loved those card puzzles that Yugioh GBA games used to come with.
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>>547928109
>>547927976
I have him at E2 if that matters
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>>547930456
he's talking about dragalia lost, the only other game he's ever played. he is a complete retard.
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>>547930217
(I’m the middle one) oo nice, I had eternal hunger on my Nia too! Was Rin/Nia/Cassius. Didn’t have mute accent, I removed it cause that card often sucks and I either hadn’t gotten hunger yet or hadn’t thought of it. But I had 2 double adagios as well as well as a couple shuffles on Cassius so yeah, it was my main AP source. So fun to play with.
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>>547930648
deragullians...
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>>547930134
See, playing around boss mechanics is part of the fun in challenge.
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Is there a cheaper way with VPN to get the monthly? I tried several countries but my currency stays on USD. I imagine there must be a way for third party discount currency sellers to exist
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>>547930624
The problem is it takes several hours to build a specific deck in this game.
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>>547930183
Just say your usual 30% cheaper buzzword lil bro
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>>547929203
The whole point is that it sits in hand bwo.

On the off chance you click it, i suppose mid or right
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>>547930043
>>547930289
>>547930624
Well, in this case you simply need to have infinite draw to counteract Crab's cancer mechanics.
Except this being a card game infinite draw will still be the optimal strategy against almost everything.
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>>547930894
>RPG takes hours to get a character kitted out

so shit xis so true
Genshin system is way better
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>>547929759
>Maybe Kentris that had too many cancer mechanics now that I'm thinking about this...
Crab9 was perfect, it filtered scrubs and stigmatized faggots who needed a wheelchair to beat him.
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>>547930668
>Didn’t have mute accent, I removed it cause that card often sucks
I also removed it but it came back in the end because I miscalculated the points and picked up another neutral card in the last campfire.
It was a blessing in disguise since the card I should've deleted was Soul Rip, but at least I can delete that with Rei later.
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>>547930456
>>547930648
I've never played Draglia Lost, but that's the second time that you've accused me of being some thread enemy of yours who apparently talked about Dragalia Lost one time and now lives rent free in your head.

Why does it even matter though? There are many gachas that are "roster" type games where you build and pull for a bunch of units and you use the units like puzzle pieces to beat stages that are designed to fuck over certain playstyles. That's fine in those types of games, because your box probably has the solution. However, this is not that type of game. I don't understand why saying this has caused you to turn schizo.
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>>547931171
>"there are many"
>doesnt name one
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>>547931043
Yes because you have to level your character from 1 to 99 and rebuild all their gear for each boss in an RPG good point
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>>547927841
she's a massive qol upgrade
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>>547931345
Naming gachas in a different thread only ever invites schizophrenic shitposting, which you are already doing without me even having named a gacha.
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>>547930894
Good heavens, you mean I actually have to play the game? Outrageous!
>>547930969
Infinite drawing is one thing, you also need infinite AP to do anything with that infinite drawing. In the end you gotta put the pieces of the puzzle together and see them interacting, and that's the real fun of it.
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>>547931402
yeah wouldnt want to look like an obnoxious retard, would we?
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>>547931601
It baffles me that people have an outrage at the thought of playing
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>>547931601
>>547931669
Imagine enjoying not being able to pick which card you copy after the boss.
Imagine enjoying not having an epiphany reroll protos skill.
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Mei Lin sex
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>>547930894
I'll be real, I understand your point that things need to be properly balanced, but here's my personal experience as someone that cleared crab9 a few days ago
>spent this whole time farming decks and failing crab runs only to go back to the mines to improve my decks so I could beat crab9 in any kind of way
>frustrated but always had something to look forward to
>beat head9 as soon as it went online
>have nothing to look forward to
>was just sitting there looking at the screen thinking 'now what'
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>>547931171
One guy in here did beat Crab9 with the initial roster. All of them without copies because he doesn't roll in the gacha.

Literally your initial box.

I'm gonna side with the other schizo in this particular discussion.
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>>547931941
Yeah i kinda just delete other cards that are copyable for others. Lmao. Its not hard. Go in with a set chara in mind.
Come out with their deck in 2-3runs tops from fishing for epiphs.
Copies are not the big deal. Learn to control the rng
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>>547931953
Why is her hair doing the pinch motion, I'm going fucking insaneeeeeeeeeee
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>>547931941
So instead you want to be able to choose exactly what you get every single time?
Why would you ever do more than 1 run per character then?
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>>547931637
You're the obnoxious retard, bro. You're literally going schizo about absolutely nothing.

>>547932016
You have no idea what the conversation is even about. What happens to f2pCHAD when a boss completely hard counters units like Tressa and Beryl? That's what the conversation was about.
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what does the biblically accurate angel even do in that one event you fight it at? it always dies in one turn but the choice makes it sound like it should be harder
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>>547922979
>>547922979
>>547922979

REAL THREAD
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>i want meta to never change and using the same decks til eos
youre shitposting if you think that
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>>547932016
Mine is e1 beryl e1 rei(both given free). Not like beryl dupes do anything. And the e1 rei u get is morale 4, all u ever need.
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>>547930183
Hello GFLtranny
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>>547931941
Eh, I did this run with some pretty suboptimal decks.
I didn't need to minmax shit to kill the crab or else Nia's deck woul've only been Nia's Curiosity after deleting every onther basic card.
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>>547925085
>patreon for sloppa

Well can't blame them for hustling
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I still like Yuki
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>>547932345
Nope. What even triggered you schizos? What is wrong with you people?
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>>547931941
Okay so you reroll into the right epiphany, copy it every time, and win with your netdeck. Done with game till next update, no experimenting and ending up with unique decks. Sounds fun.
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>>547932254
It beams you for like 1000hp every few turns on lvl 11 map.
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>>547931954
My child in that womb btw.
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>>547932716
Rei...
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>>547932251
>What happens to f2pCHAD when a boss completely hard counters units like Tressa and Beryl? That's what the conversation was about.
Then we will have that conversation when it actually happens.
As an impartial judge I can finally declare the other schizo won this discussion. Now go do something else.
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>>547932525
wao good to know...
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>>547932116
>Come out with their deck in 2-3runs tops from fishing for epiphs.
No you don't bro lmao. Hitting the right epiphany is only 3/5 and you have to do it on 4 cards, so 13% to hit optimal epiphanies on all cards.
Copy rng is still like 50/50 even if you're committing everything to card removal. You should be converting cards in the first half, which makes the copy rng even worse.
Sometimes you just miss the copy event as well.
You aren't actually building optimal decks are you?
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>>547930107
You just don't know how to use her.
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>>547932792
>Then we will have that conversation when it actually happens.
see: >>547928905 >>547929271 >>547929525
That was the entire conversation, retard. You didn't (and probably still don't) even understand what the conversation was. You're an illiterate moron, just like the schizos are.
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You can have epiphany on a basic card?
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>>547932994
no schizos here. it's just you, a sperg narcissist.
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>>547932278
Let it go brownie
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>>547933035
It's the one that just gives you other cards, not the upgrade. It can often happen if you remove a lot of cards.
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>>547932994
If I tell you you won are you gonna stop your tantrum? Because I can do that. I don't mind you getting some izzat or whatever you want to get from this inane rambing.
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>>547932965
What is this “optimal deck” for? Personally, I built the decks for the crab in one attempt each, with only moderate strength fragments in my Rin/Nia/Cassius team. Now I know that’s pretty lucky, but 2-3 like the other anon said is probably more of the average. Even requiring an exact epiphany on one card is only necessary for certain characters, why on earth would you feel the need to ensure one for every single card?
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I didn't really care for Magna but after sloppifying her...
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>>547931953
one turn?
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The thing about trying to make bosses that counter Tressa/Mei Lin/Cassius is that you're more likely to kill the rest of the rooster than them.
Forced turn end mechanic will just make everyone use Beryl retain, because most other decks spam cards.
Any kind of anti-0cost mechanic will kill off half of Rin/Yuki/Kayron/Luke kits, and likely many others.
Realistically, you can only do the dot immunity, and that still leaves Cassius and other regular comps that just cycle low-cost cards.
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one week until she's gone...
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>>547933674
Like 7 but its way easier than crab that I did it first try.
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mika is overrated
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>>547933481
Well Rei is a good example of a character that needs it on every card. Most characters only need it on 2 or 3, but the odds of hitting those are still not great.
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>>547933845
Is she worth getting?
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>>547933613
Going by her trauma, Magna most likely would babytrap
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>>547933382
>If I tell you you won are you gonna stop your tantrum?
I don't need to have "won", I'm just not any of your thread enemies from this or other generals. I haven't played Dragalia Lost or GFL.

>>547933065
All I did was make a post about video games, and then multiple people accused me of being their boyfriend, or maybe one guy accused me multiple times of being his various boyfriends. I just don't really think any of that was called for.
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>>547933613
Looks like shit, bwo.
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>>547934158
lol no
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>>547934132
Rei + Nia is possibly my favorite duo.
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>>547934162
everyone from the animal faction would tbqh
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I just want Yuki to be good...
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>>547934358
Post your Yuki. Potentials, stats and artifacts.
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>>547934237
Let's see you do better.
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>>547934353
>getting babytrapped by Khalipe
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>>547934358
She is though.
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>>547933714
Mei Lin is fucking easy as hell to neuter.
>Only the first 3 hits of a card do damage
There you don't have her doing 200k damage in a single card anymore. Neutering Tressa and Cassius is easy, but risks fucking over other people
>Only the first 5 attack cards of each turn deal damage
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>>547934562
bro her bird will be watching the entire time...
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>>547929529
we love Yuki here
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>>547934554
I don't have to generate slop to tell you that thing looks like total shit.
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>>547934650
>Only the first 3 hits of a card do damage
That rapes Rin and Luke too. And multihitting Kayron build. And Renoa. Again, maybe others too, I just don't have everyone built so I don't know the details of how other characters play.
See? That's why every single solution you retards think of is stupid.
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>>547934217
I don't really care about what games you play, nobody does. We're not sworn enemies because of something that stupid. I don't even know you.
I'm only talking about your arguments and if you come here to talk about a hypothetical scenario as if it was fact, then I'm gonna dismiss it until that shit actually happens.
If you keep pressing on with it, then I'll assume you're here to shitpost. That's all there is to it.
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>enemy gets 1 fortitude for 1 turn every time you play an attack card
How do you respond to this without sounding mad?
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>>547935302
I play a retain team anyway.
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>>547935302
Beryl
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>>547934154
Rei does not need a perfect epiphany on every card. Her best cards are predator blade, which doesn’t have epiphanies, and snack time, which has lots of good options unless you like specifically need the exhaust 2 for Kayron or something. A lot of the other ones are really just bonuses unless you’re heavily relying on her buffing potential, but again, predator blade exists.
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>>547934892
Rin's only goes to +5 hits and is way harder to stack hits on, you could even just change it to +5 if you're that scared of nerfing Rin.
Luke is in the same situation as Mei Lin just worse since he needs more investment, and can't use Veronica to give him free +10 hits, if you want to Mei Lin you also want to neuter Luke.
Renoa wouldn't be affected at all by this.
I haven't even looked at what Kayron does.
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>>547934913
>I'm only talking about your arguments and if you come here to talk about a hypothetical scenario as if it was fact, then I'm gonna dismiss it until that shit actually happens.
Okay, well I didn't do any of that, so I guess you're not mad at me, even though you still seem to be quite upset at me.
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>>547935302
beryl and also I think agony goes through fort right
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>>547935302
>spirit of the aromata: when using a passion card gain +20% damage
Still outscales it.
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which one broes
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I can't bring myself to do chaos anymore. it's only disappointment
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>>547934885
Yes you do.
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>>547935869
buy a brick
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>>547928229
Fuuuuuck I want his second dupe so badly
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>>547923857
>Event Reward: 100,000 Units
> ㄴ Rewards will be sent to your in-game mailbox on 12/23 (Tue). (Storage Period: 7 Days)
> Reward Target: 100 Winners
100K UNITS
ONLY FOR 100 PLAYERS
AAAAIIEEEEE
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>>547936269
Calm down, goyim, that's 10 million units total. That's a lot to be handing out. It's not like they can just generate these units out of nowhere.
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>>547935483
The best snack time is debatable but I imagine you'd target a particular one and try to get 4x of it. She has 2 cards that become upgrades which removes them from your deck, so you definitely want both of those. Her upgrade card may not be important, depending on who you play her with.
Mei Lin is an even better example of a character that needs 4 epiphanies.
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>>547936463
Hugo
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>>547936463
Veronica
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>first turn is just using your upgrade cards and facetaking the enemy's turn 1 damage
how do you deal with this
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>>547924790
i think Rin sounded complicated because the initial TL made it sound like she had two stances. her current state idk how its possible to be confused once you get the stance on basics potential.
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>>547936680
>ML
>V
you didn't beat the game
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>>547933845
She'll be in the shop forever bro
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>>547935914
No I don't, fix your shit taste
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>>547925941
psionic > striker, better neutrals.
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>>547936835
not even, retard
that's a lot of characters and not just the 2 passion bitches
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>>547936680
By noticing that most enemies also don't attack on the first turn, and the few that do piss amounts of damage
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yukinons?
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>>547937106
meh
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>>547936680
>-4 cards
Sounds good to me.
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>>547937106 (me)
reinons?
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>>547936963
Not really. The only psionic neutral attack card is garbage and all the utility neutrals can be put on the controller(s) you're bringing anyway. Every other class has much better neutrals for a damage dealer.
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Do you get enough resources to make 2 teams early or should I just focus on 1 team until captain level 50 and ignore basin?
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>>547924312
NTA, but can somebody explain a bit more into detail why Rally is bad? To me it is always a no brainer to take, since it is basically gives enemies +3 before they act for free. Some enemies do counter it a little bit, but overall I think in most situations it is better to have one then not.

Also I'm running Veronica, so it also upgrades my crossbow, but even without that it still seems like free card.
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>>547936478
If it’s debatable, why do you need one specific one? Just take the best one you get. And 4 copies is overkill, that’s a neat deck, not a goal/need. The upgrades aren’t totally necessary either, because yes thinning is good, but those also have other epiphanies that, while still meh, are at least more useful for the trade off of taking deck space. And you can always thin them with snack time anyways.

I don’t have Mei Lin, but the most busted character also being the biggest pain to build sounds like a fair trade off if that is true, but I haven’t found anything like that for any character that I play. And she’s considered good in chaos so I imagine you can build a decent deck without the stars fully aligning.

These kind of super-optimized decks you talk about are only needed if you want the flashiest screenshot or are already caring about the leaderboard that doesn’t exist yet. I think it’s fine for those kind of decks to be extremely hard to make because they aren’t necessary.
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>haru was mid
>yuki is abysmal dogshit
>but MY brick will be good
it's over chizuru copers
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>>547937489
>all the utility neutrals can be put on the controller(s) you're bringing anyway.
this is the way a clueless person thinks about reorganize and gear bag and rally.
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>>547935546
You know what? Sure, you win. Have some izzat.
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>>547937634
the downside is it eating save data cap and taking epiphany procs from cards where epiphanies are more impactful. its clearly just good otherwise.
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>>547937634
It's a good card, just not worth the space it takes up in save data.
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By the way, since Chizuru is obviously japanese, those koreans would probably throw another fit.
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>>547937634
Rally is a no brainer for chaos. For a completed deck that you're going to use in other content it's not worth the 20-30 faint memory cost per copy.
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>>547937634
Because it still eats up 20-40 datapoints, the enemy is still getting the action just delayed other than a few bosses where it actually screws over their gimmick (Judas / bluepot boss). It's a "nice to have if you have the spare data"
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funny
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>>547937552
Character level 50 and fragments +3 barely take any resources compared to 50-60 grind. You're not saving much if you only focus on one team.
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>>547937854
that poster is speaking plain english. if you had any shame at all you'd be embarrassed.
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>>547937634
It's fine to have it, but only if your save data can handle it at the end.
Most supports will prefer to get other cards over that one, but it's fine to have a good deck with it on it in case you gotta handle some mobs with quick turns.
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look how ridiculous this is.
the game did not give me epiphany on three cards
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>>547938124
1-50 costs the same as 50-60 so I wouldnt say its free.
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>>547935501
>he needs more investment
wasn't there a crab otk of someone's e0 luke with no mem frags and no partner lmao?
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>>547938198
still op
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>>547937634
I think it's good in the event chaos because it triggers all the draw card stuff.
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>>547937634
Rally is good, I think anon's point is the number of them.
Neutrals eat 30 data points when they get an epiphany (they don't have free epiphanies like character cards) and even more if they get a div, and if you get a lot of them then they just lightning rod your epiphanies so no only you bloat your data point but you also get no epiphanies on chara cards. Rally in particular only delays the enemy action for a bit (it's not a full stop like other options) so you're burning a lot of data for basically a non-combo, non-forbidden pull draw 1.
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>>547937705
Ackshually, GAYRON is a better brick than all of them combined. He bricks harder and faster with a blindfold on his eyes and with a cock in his mouth.
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>>547938165
I was on your side, schizo-kun. Of course I have no shame.
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>>547938087
Protein is good for you.
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Let's discuss craft minmaxing for a moment here since I've read nothing about this.
Do you guys craft memory fragments? If so, which ones?
Having a usable material to craft slots IV V and VI with the desired main stat is nice but considering how highrolly the substats are it seems a bit wasteful spending a material only to get shit substats and have esentially a bricked suboptimal item.
If I were to start crafting (I don't think I have more than what was required for the quest progression) I'd probably craft slots I II and III until I got decent main stats and substats and only worry about optimizing slots IV onwards by randomly farming them on chaos.
Do you use a different approach? Any thoughts?
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>>547937705
>mogged by a 4*
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>>547937634
>NTA, but can somebody explain a bit more into detail why Rally is bad?
Here's real the kicker - it isn't.
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>>547938198
You got what you deserve. In fact, you got far more than you deserve.
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>>547938506 (me)
I'm stupid, I meant to say that I'd craft slots I~III because the main stats are fixed and only substats are random so you can craft as many as you want until you get ideal substats for only yellow dust currency, instead of having a limited number of shots as you do on slots IV~VI. I apologize for my retardation.
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>>547935302
Fixed dmg.

Nah beryl yeah
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>>547938506
Slot 5 is by far the most important to use main stat selector on, then it depends on how autistically you're willing to farm Chaos, since you get 3-oranges from slots 4/5/6 which are the most important, memory frag diff 10 is 2 guaranteed with a chance of 3 oranges iirc
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>>547938506
I craft pieces to try and improve my main damage dealer when I have the mainstat selection item. I craft random pieces from sets I don't want to run sim for (i.e. anything except scarab and cdamage set). I don't pick a specific slot since it costs half as much to let it just go random, and half the time it should hit the left side anyway.
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>>547938506
I want any 1 2 3 when I craft because my 4 5 6 comes from chaos. So I just craft random pieces for 50 instead of targeted ones for 100 because on average long-term both cost 100 for a 1/2/3 but I get a free 4/5/6 by paying 50.

For mainstat selector, imo its either crit chance ideal or atk% position 6.
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>>547938506
I farm first, then I plan to craft for the things I’m missing once I’ve got most of the pieces I need (have crafted very little so far because I want to do that only when I’m pretty much done farming a set for a long time to not waste them). Alternatively, I have crafted a few for the agony set, because it’s with a set I didn’t want in simulation (that crappy order one I think?). It’s 50% cheaper if you don’t specify which piece so I think doing that early for a set you want but don’t want to farm the domain for can be good.
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>>547937313
Usable.

Im a big fan of exhaust Up to 2. Lets u delete trash like your remaining basics or other cards that u cant cut on others due to cost restraint. Light on dupes amd draw otherwise but nice 2card setup assuming you devour your own 2 basics.

I also really enjoy at least 1 cantrip be it rally/confiscation to have consistent draw that doesnt exhaust
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>>547938762
disagree. 5% of the frags you see will be pos4 crit chance and 3% will be pos5 passion. but 80% of your characters will want pos4 crit chance and only 20% will want pos5 passion.
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Do you do lv8 or lv9 chaos or are you a whale that does lv10
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>>547938506
farm then craft whatever pieces im missing to complete a set. selector should be for executioner IV's with crit main stat imo, since all dps need crit + cdmg, allowing transferable gear whenever you switch dps.
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>>547937687
Snack time is complicated. If you have a lot of cards you need to get rid of, you need to 2x removal. If you only need to remove a few, you're better off with the one that removes from the draw pile. The draw 2x is good for nuking simulation quickly. My best Rei deck uses 2 different epiphanies, but it's missing some epiphanies.
That Mei Lin deck isn't even that great because it has 3* gear since I farmed it on t7 chaos. Farming on regular chaos isn't that bad. If I could back out of Codex without losing anything, it would be much more tolerable.
I know there are people here trying to optimize for particular divine epiphanies, forbidden cards, etc. which I agree should be difficult to do, but just hitting the right epiphanies and copies shouldn't be this complicated.
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>>547938506
Crit Rate main stat on the Crit Damage set
I still haven't gotten a goot piece
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>>547939201
I do 11s when trying to have good hard runs.
Otherwise do 8 for trying to get some saves.

As my 8reorganize build aint coming out eitherway but i can enjoy the fuck out of it on 11 and not worry about saves
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I'm sorry to all YukiGODS
She can actually deal damage if you gave her a chance. 130% epiphany upgrade changes things A LOT
Literally dealt 14k earlier but forgot to screenshot it
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I too think IV with crit chance% is probably the best use of the material by far, there's almost not a single DPS that doesn't want that

>>547938936
>>547939051
I hadn't noticed that not choosing a piece costs 50. Seems like spending a chunk of fragments on the executioner's and blackwing's sets for random pieces until you get 1 2 3s with near perfect substats and some accidental 4 5 6 on the way is a good way to start when your fragments are absolute dogshit and you don't have much of value (because mine are, and I'd rather spend energy farming potential nodes than the crappy memory fragment simulations)
But I'm sure there's a point where you'd rather spend 100 fragments just to focus on the one item you're missing compared to taking random shots in the dark.
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Oh. So we have another week until Chizuru.
If she isn't good I'm dropping the game.
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>>547939617
brainwash run btw
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>>547923140
Does Mutant Predator Spike triggers/wortk with Beryl retain 150% dmg passive attack?
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>C
With the big crits!
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>>547939708
Just drop it, holy fuck.
If she is good your gonna threaten us with the next release or whoever the fuck after.
Bye, dont come back.
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>>547939617
uh huh, now use a different character with the same investment and exact same fate
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>>547939617
Reminder that her original Freezing Blade had its modifiers high like that, even the AoE ones
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547939708
Clown. Im enjoying yuki btw.
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>>547939904
wtf yuki is so good 1k%x4???
only yukiGODS can do that
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>>547939758
I don't think so
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i regret skipping Yuki...
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>>547939685
for niche sets maybe. its a long way off for me because I plan to +5 right side 2/2/2 every character before caring much about left side beyond set completion.
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>>547939904
But chizuru has to be omegabroken or im gonna quit
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congrats yuki
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>>547939758
Try it. Ill be sticking with my extra dmg wep.
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no chizuru, only yuki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-G5DVNlw4
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Nevermind, this shit is expensive as fuck. Everything costs credits in this god forsaken game.
Just like real life.
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>>547939314
Idk man, I still just think you’re demanding too high of a degree of optimization. If it was easier to get the epiphanies and copies you want decks would be more samey and I think it would be less fun. You just gotta be more flexible and only go for that level of optimization if you like doing that, if you strategize around the possibilities well it shouldn’t take more than a couple runs per unit to get decks that clear current endgame. It’s a roguelike deckbuilder, not a tcg.
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Is there a difference between picrel and going into Chaos with a character that has "deep trauma" or is it the same thing and picrel just forces "deep trauma"?
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Is there any point in giving my units therapy if I already have all the gems from them and if they didnt get a good save data last chaos run?
I'm sitting here with like 8 schizos and it feels like I'm playing the game wrong, but I don't see any good reason to cure them until I get a good save data...
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>>547940417
>>547605912
>>to level up your characters you need exp mats AND UNITS
>>to limit break them you need promotion mats AND UNITS
>>to upgrade their potentials you need potential mats AND UNITS
>>to level up their partners you need partner exp mats AND UNITS
>>to limit break said partners you need partner promotion mats AND UNITS
>>to convert the materials above, you need said materials (above or below their tier) AND UNITS
>>to upgrade your relics you need memory fragment crystals AND UNITS
>>to unmindfuck your combatants after a chaos run you need limited daily mats OR UNITS
>>to buy food that will last for two runs only you need UNITS
>Reduction aside, is it really necessary for EVERYTHING to cost units?
>Like, why mats conversion or buying food costs units for example? I mean, duh, I understand you need money to buy food etc but that's beyond the point here. For conversion, you can't exactly farm a specific tier of material only, you always get a few lower tier ones right, so you're just converting what you already farmed into higher tiers (or breaking higher into lower) so is it really necessary to add a unit cost on top of something you already farmed and cannot opt against it?
Welcome to Chaos Zero Units
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>>547939314
gyatdamn you can basically exhaust half of your deck and only leave the cards you want, i need to roll this
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>>547940561
think for yourself
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>>547939859
>same exact fate
laziness and altruism?
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>>547940561
Just forces DT, there is no difference.
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>>547938762
Agree. It's insane how many pieces I have with justice damage or order damage as the main stat but nothing I actually want like Attack or Health for the supports.
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>>547940601
You get affection from therapy.
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SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME CHIZURI WILL BE GOOD
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>>547940872
>two b2b banners that have been mid
ok bro she'll be t0, happy?
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>>547940872
She'll be good
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>>547940872
She'll be worse than Yuki
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>>547940835
Thanks bro. I don't know if I just missed an in-game explanation but I was so confused.
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>>547940852
I already give them cake for that
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>>547940601
not really, at one point the game won't let you keep stacking so you'll just to cleanse or mindwipe them
I think it's 10 broken decks or something
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chizuri paizuri
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>>547940872
She will at least match whoever (you) think is the weakest.

The bigger deal is adelhide is on her banner
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>>547940601
You can only hold up to 10 corrupted saves per character, so eventually you'll have to cure them if you ever need a new deck.
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>>547919750
Well, she's dressed like one.
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>>547940601
if you don't want the deck it's better to just memory-wipe since excursions can give you gifts and other rewards, 30000 for a gift is a fair price imo
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>>547940635
I’ve cleared all endgame and still have 3 million units without ever farming them. I don’t understand this deficit that so many people seem to have, is it just the kind of things I’ve chosen to invest in or are y’all just bad at managing? I’m gonna get hate for multiple parts of this sentence but as someone who comes from HSR I actually kind of like caring about money instead of it being a reward that means literally nothing.
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>>547941296
uwow!

>kneels IRL

You are the GOD OF CZN. What a gigachad! I bet women line up to experience your HSR expertised dick day and night!
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>>547941296
Try maxing out a character and watch them vanish into the abyss.
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I love shrine maidens like you wouldn't believe.
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>>547940952
It makes sense since if you don't treat a mindbroken unit you can still play with it, but you're gonna be forced to play in hard mode.
What the game doesn't tell you is that you should be only doing counseling after you're done playing for the day, because you can store up to 10 corrupted save data per character before they start not getting saved.
So you can run a lot of chaos, get a lot of decks and treat your units right before the reset of the day so you never have to pay money to erase saves ever again.
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>>547941296
what, did you build two teams and then stop?
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Friendly reminder that just weeklies/achievements won't be enough to buy out all the event shop materials, especially pulls and the universal dupe material. You WILL have to farm chaos to get everything, and not just couple times.
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>>547941452
I have maxed out 8 characters without feeling it.
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>>547941296
t. plays 3 characters, only invested in 1, rolls characters to never use them
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>>547939617
Yuki is no top tier but people exagerate a lot with how bad her dmg is.
i cleared max diff lab 0/crab/family head with her
I always take the 130% single target freezing blade epi when i can
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>>547941495
Shrine maidens dont like those who cant beat lab0 on 11. Or crab 9 or family head9
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+10 izzat
Come pajeet brother, let us poo in their streets to own them in real life!
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>>547941579
Sure thing anon. And I'm the king of Atlantis.
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>>547941296
Eventually it'll come to a point where units have no value anymore, because you'll rarely level characters (once every three weeks at best) or you'll have decent memory fragments so you'll only waste money on really good ones that upgrade the ones you already have.
But, in CZN, the early need for units was (is) too oppressive because everything and their mothers need units, it's even worse if you play the game for what it is (deck builder) and tried to build multiple different characters instead of focusing of only a few.
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Lads, should I roll for the wheelchair girl for my E2 Bricki? Or is Lillian that great of a sidegrade?
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>>547941546
actually you have no idea whats in shop 2 and 3.
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>>547941579
lol. Post them.
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>I’ve cleared all endgame
By the way, that usually translates to "I did lab 0 difficulty 5, and crab 6 (maybe, probably stopped at 3)".
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+1 izzat
Trying too hard
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>>547941743
We know the character dupe will be in shop 2 and it will be 6k points, but other than that you're correct.
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>>547941509
Yeah I did assume it just forced DT but I wasn't sure. Thanks for that tip about waiting till reset to treat the characters. I didn't think of that.
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>>547941296
also what a retarded statement
>I haven't needed to farm credits i've raised eight characters to max
>I actually kind of like caring about money instead of it being a reward that means literally nothing.
if the thread wasn't so slow I wouldn't give this bait the time of day
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>>547941743
No, (You) have no idea. All the private discords already have the info on the entire lineup of materials for all three shops, and you're fucked if you didn't do at least four full chaos runs every day.
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>>547941452
I do have one character pretty much maxed, my Rin.

>>547941520
Nah I’ve got like 4 dps and 4 supports. But Hugo and Tressa don’t need a ton of investment so I guess I’ve really only heavily invested into two dps units. Well and a decent amount in Cassius to get his top-right potential and 700 HP.
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>>547940937
Yuki wishes she was mid. Literally doesn't get any worse than her even amongst 4*
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>>547941741
hotwheels is a bit stronger for her but lillian is great on other strikers when you stop coping
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>>547939617
Yeah shes fun. Kind funny how only basin has order weak enemies though
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>>547942063
Wait until they announce the next combatant and her partner then decide
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So not roll the cripple. That is an irreversible brick of up to -80 pulls.
Cope with your shitty bricki
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reminder that yuki will be in the standard pool in a few days, do with that information what you will
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>Yuki is good bro trust!!!!
>Just use a neutral card and she's good!!!
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>>547942157
What's the point of doing posts like this?
Legitimate question.
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>>547941579
8 characters (if the take "maxed" at face value of meaning only level 60) would be 16 million units, adding the 3 left, that's 19 million units. Not including skill book merges, potential mats merges, potential upgrades, and relics.
20 million units / 96k units per 60 stamina run = 209 runs of the units node, or 12500 stamina
12500 stamina / 380 stamina per day (lol) = 32 days of farming nothing but units

Of course, we had a lot of gibs, level up rewards, and a few extra sources of units (most non-renewable) but at the same time we also don't have any form of passive units farm.
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>>547941792
If you’re referring to me, >>547941296, no. 9/9 crab, level 10 Judas, full cleared basin (that one is easy tho)
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>>547942284
Best to warn someone before its too late
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>>547942316
but did you build a deck? one you love?
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https://files.catbox.moe/p0hx8n.mp4

Gitah
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Pretty sure I just encountered a bug

Was doing a tier14 lab0, fucking cthulu spawned and just barely killed him, got the multiplicatice defense armor on my khalipe, excited about the run
Made it to first boss, every khalipe vulture ejection did 0 damage to him. Didnt remove his hunger stacks either so run wasted.
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>no stop you can't use game mechanics to fix a character's weak point!
>Your AOEchad with single target nuking potential will make my STcuck look bad!!!!
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>>547942157
>>547942153
>>547942063
hmm thanks, guess I'll save the rolls then. I just really like Yuki and want the best for her. Well the in-game shop is always there ig.
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>>547942541
Gonna need more context to that, but I wouldn't be surprised at all. This game's held together by duct tape.
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>>547942410
Hell yeah, absolutely love my Rin/Nia/Cassius set that I killed crab with. Especially the Nia, 2x double adagio with eternal hunger feels so good
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>>547941993
well thats not true but sure have fun larping as a groomcord insider.
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>>547942532
Insane, very nice.
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>>547942284
To slightly bother people off.
For what purpose? No idea.
I'm starting to believe the izzat thing is actually true, that's the only explanation on why would someone be here all day making insane posts like these
>>547942157
>>547942245
>>547942620
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>>547942541
>tier 14
i'm guessing you had the fortitude buff modifier?
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>>547942284
f2p probably actually needed to hear the part about not rolling for westmacuck. I pulled her, but I pulled her with the power of CC. She's an okay luxury item but unneeded otherwise.
I like her camp animations.
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Post more pregnant czns
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>>547941697
Yeah I think this is what everyone else is hitting. I’m just content to build characters a bit slower, because I know I’m still building them way faster than I’ll be acquiring them. I’m content with my 8 characters for now (I’m the OP, not the same as the other anon who said 8 but yeah)
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Of course it had to be a self-important Rinfag.
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I love my little musical autistic rat!
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>>547942532
Mei Lin mongoloids see this and think its black magic
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>>547942941
the cripple post is literally an anon being helpful because someone asked about rolling westmacott, who sucks and has a worse passive than Douglas. you're just some fragile yuckitard.
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When chorizo kit leaks>
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>>547943087
She looks, plays, sounds, smells and has sex retarded
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>>547943178
never, retard
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>>547943087
At first I thought best girl was Tressa but I’ve come to realize it’s actually this goofball
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>>547943087
>therapy
>nia is listening to music ignoring the outside world
>turn off music
>she gets mad
>turn music back on
>end with 70%
women
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>>547942178
>1/13 chance per 5* which is every 70 rolls
>of which you will stop getting a ton of rolls past the initial level progression
I just started a few days ago so I just rerolled until I got her early because I love my titcows, but just having characters in the standard is kind of irrelevant, you can't reasonably aim for them
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>>547942983
Yes but any other attack at least did some damage, Vulture was just making 0s pop up
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>>547942532
>>547943087
I'm going to raise her to use with Renoa. I hope e2 is enough.
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What happens of you attack the robot?
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>>547943019
>>547943156
I don't mind the comparisons between characters, they're actually fine and helpful.
What makes it weird is how they later go into an unprovoked rant about something else, like
>>547942157
>Cope with your shitty bricki
Or
>>547943156
>you're just some fragile yuckitard

Maybe I'm just nooticing too much.
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>>547943367
>young girl is chilling with the music she likes, trying to cope with being mindbroken by monstrosities
>retard comes in and turn off the music
>and then blame the girl for being mad
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Crab kicked my ass again. How necessary is it for Tressa to have 3 healing daggers? I reduced its health to 44% but it still overwhelmed me.
I’m gonna go back to the Memory Frag mines and all but feels my entire team dealt much less damage than that video. Did everyone need to be level 60?
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>>547943534
The guy who gives you the evasion trinket? He does nothing for 2 turns then tries to blow up. You get the trinket and 40 credits if you kill him
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peak nia moments:
- getting mute accent battle 1
- draining vulnerable stacks with decibel
- curiosity in hand with empty deck
- epiphanying arpeggio at final boss
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>>547943534
3 turns to kill it before it explodes all over you
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>>547943093
See what? Some e6 nigger whale that needs e6 to do what e0 mei lin does
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>>547943534
You get the accessory and 40 bucks. You don't even need to kill him, it self destructs after 3 turns.
Of course it's better if you can kill it so you don't get hit by 1/3 of your health and 10 stress to some poor sod.
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>>547943430
ALL her Ego upgrades are fantastic, with each her gameplay gets upgraded. At E6 you get a life saving heal and combo damage that will save you from countless worse case scenarios. Her basic healing is also mayhaps the second or third best as her potentials buff it up a ton.
High skill ceiling, great highs. She is goddamn fun to use.
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>>547943619
i did it at 50 but i play broken character like rin
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>>547943607
This, plus if you’re gonna turn off her music to talk to her or whatever it is, you gotta commit. Of course if you just turn it off and turn it back on she’ll be annoyed that you’re messing with her coping mechanism for no reason.
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>>547943619
I've noticed that the best you can do is getting all of your attack artifacts up to +5. The damage change gets pretty noticeable.
Go do that if you're still at +3 on them.
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>>547943178
I assume, and by assume I mean hope, later this week.
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>>547942941
Be my guest. Your probably a toursit anyway. The gibs are done, dont come crying on this board when you realize how much rolls you wasted on the fucking cripple who is at best a mild sidegrade to lilian and completely worthless on other characters.

Unless your actively spending for enough rolls to justify -80 then your just a cucked coper.
Go back to india saaar.
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>>547943645
>draining vulnerable stacks
I do love that plenty of the weird attacks won't reduce hunger but will reduce vulnerable stacks
I also enjoy that the evasion trinket can get its proc ruined by debuffs
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>>547944103
>I do love that plenty of the weird attacks won't reduce hunger but will reduce vulnerable stacks
that is some bullshit
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>>547944103
i'll admit its funny when evasion gets drained because a mindbroken character schizo'd and attacked the party. its less funny when it happens on vagina so i lose the run.
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>>547943534
Always attack him.
>still get the Admin ID
>but also get a few creds
>one earlier fight that can give you some early epiph to snowball your run
Worst case that can happen is him blowing himself up that most of the time can't even kill you (you'll just kill him anyway)
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>>547941296
People buying food for chaos, rerolling planets in chaos zero with units, and the retards who +5ed like 10-20 pieces of green/blue memory fragments
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>>547944235
chorizo sexo
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>>547944235
Why does her tits have eyes
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>>547944014
Okay!
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>>547943645
Also, Nia discarding lowest cost card in hand and watching her discard the ballista! Yay!
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>>547944101
-10 izzat
Change your MD5s retard
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>>547944339
Her tits have a mind of their own
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>>547944235
three more weeks without pulling :(
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>>547943619
Really necessary, with 2 healing daggers you'll probably need a good hugo as a second dps
I tried the comp of the video you're talking about with 2 healings a lot, couldn't do it, did it in a single try with 3 healing daggers
And no, I don't have a single 60, Tressa and Cassius both 55 (tressa barely had any potentials, but Cassius had his final big node)
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>>547944615
Fuck
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are they gonna show her kit today?
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>>547944610
Isn't she coming next week?
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>>547944235
PRAYING she's trash
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lmao this family head is such a pushover
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>>547944761
when you least expect it, when you're fast asleep, the kit will be revealed to the japanese
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>>547944615
>>547943619

Going for a triple copy of one specific epiphany in lab 0 sounds hellish. Would recommend working on fragments like you’re doing first, or work on getting better consistent draw or something.
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So, what's up with the Yuki buffs? Don't tell me those will be coming after her banner ends. That would be extremely scummy.
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Give me actual rolls you stupid bitch
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>>547943087
Surely you'll listen to her song, right /czn/?
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t-thanks
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>>547944925
>>547944615 (me)
It is pretty hellish, I can confirm.
Way too low copy events, I think it's 4 total (two sharing the same event) and only one is 'select card'.
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>>547945101
Woah, you're the biggest Lucas fan I've seen to date!
I'm in awe of your homosexuality, how DO you manage to do it?
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>>547945101
I got 4 of Owen's....
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>>547945101
Those cards have nice names
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>>547944761
If it's the same as Yuki, iirc 4 days before the banner change, though that was on a stream, if no stream then 1 day before when they announce patchnotes

>>547945009
that would be the opposite of scummy
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>>547943087
I love her
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>>547945257
>that would be the opposite of scummy
Are you retarded?
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>>547945101
This thing is homoseeded
Fuck this game
>all 4* males are almost complete
>get none of the 4* girls
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Yuki buffs next week! Yuki banner extended 2 weeks! Chizuru banner delayed!
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>>547945257
>>547945009
If they buffed Yuki before the banner ends that would be a quick-pitch for pushing more banner rolls or paid rolls for people to invest more in a fire-sale style way.
This is considered very bad practice as a way to hyper-induce FOMO.

Waiting until after the banner is over is the only non-scummy way to go about it.
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>>547945398
NYO!!!
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>>547942316
It's quite curious how you didn't mention d11 lab 0 in your post.
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>>547945474
By this mentally retarded logic every character needs to be dogshit at release and buffed once their banner ends.
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>>547945126
Yeah that’s why I’d recommend not relying on copying as much. Good forbidden cards can make up for it. Idk though, I used Rin, I’d like to think you don’t need triple dagger but maybe with a unit less synergistic with draw (which I feel like is really what lab 0 is all about, between half the forbiddens and most of the equipment) you need it. I’d hope not.
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Is there a limit to number of saves on a character?
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>>547943793
Can I farm chaos without a second healer with her? I have her at E6 but just started using her
I tried Nia - Mika - DPS but its a chore
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>>547945678
Hey, I get that you're a paypig and a cuck, with no understanding of what is- or isn't good practices.
But I think it's sad that you advocate for companies artificially inflating numbers just to sell more units using literal power-creep as advertisement.
-5 Izzat for you.
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>>547945763
Not that I think of but you can have a max of 10 corrupted data
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>>547945678
Or they can be good on release retard?
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>>547944795
yeah im skipping her
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>Tressa sneezes
>the new challenge boss just dies
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>>547945383
GOI, BUY YUKI NOW OR YOUR ENTIRE ACCOUNT IS BRICKED SHE JUST GOT MASSIVELY BUFFED. HER BANNER ENDS IN 6 HOURS
How the fuck is that not scummier than
>Oh, an old character whose banner already ended is getting buffed because you guys complained she was weak
You might be room-temp IQ if you can't tell which is more scummy
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3 more weeks until Sereniel... I sleep.
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>>547945890
So you agree that Yuki should be buffed before her banner ends.

>>547945865
Oh okay I see, you're just mentally ill.
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>Mei Lin enters the room
>the new challenge boss commits seppuku immediately
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>>547945882
Do my saves just not get saved at 10 data?
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>>547945474
>Waiting until after the banner is over is the only non-scummy way to go about it.
And now every mediocre banner after that has FOMO as a selling point!
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can anyone explain beryl's 230 crit damage potential to me?
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what sets does renoa want? 2pc atk/2pc cdmg/2pc basic dmg?
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>>547946020
Are you legitimately braindead? Missing her banner if she ends up being meta is by far the worst outcome.
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>buffing a character during their release banner is scummy
not even going to bother +1 izzat to your account i guess get better fucking material and not announce to the entire thread how much of a subhuman lobotomite you are rajeesh
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>>547946082
You can have more than 10 data, when you have 10 corrupted data you can't get corrupted data anymore and doesnt get saved
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>>547945057
Only if its baby metal.
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>>547945763
yes (real grinders know)
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>>547946259
>making your farming 10x harder so the shitty strikes you delete anyway do 20% more damage
reatrdGOD
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>>547946067
>So you agree that Yuki should be buffed before her banner ends.
Are you actually stupid or just pretending to be stupid. That isn't the point that was made.
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>>547946067
Not as much as you though, but I understand why you'd refuse to see it any other way.

>>547946127
Can't win either way.
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>>547946397
what's the sets then!
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>>547945594
Haven’t gotten around to it yet. If I need to farm this 4 times per week for 2 months I don’t want to rush the interesting parts right away (and I was stuck right below level 50 on the first week). Either way, I highly doubt I’m suddenly gonna have a units issue there if my units cleared the crab with ease after not a lot of deck farming. If you want to say that I didn’t clear endgame because of that then sure lol
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>>547946440
+1 izzat we are doing very good saars you will get 5$ google play gift card at 50 izzat
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>>547944761
wait for Jenazad to stream her
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Is Raiden Void or not? I want to prefarm
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>>547946490
I mean, you factually didn't clear it. So you just lied like a little bitch you are.
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>get chaos card event
>get the dog cards
Into the trash
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>>547946419
By your initial logic, characters being good during their banner is scummy so every character needs to be bad during their banner and buffed later but then you completely walked back and claimed that characters should be good on release ergo they should be good while their banner is up. This is very simple.
If you say Yuki should be getting her buffs after her banner ends you are making the point that characters should be shit during their banner and later buffed.
If you say Yuki should be buffed during her banner then you say characters should be good during their banner.
It feels like you just don't actually know what you're talking about and just personally don't want Yuki to be good.
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>>547946723
Right is good sustain though
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>almost at 200 rolls now even after going to pity for Yuki and her partner
Damn the free gibs are really something huh
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i sincerely got m2w1 yuki by accident what do
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>Mei lin and Yuki but no Veronica

Who do I pair with Yuki? Nia and Khalipe?
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>>547946723
Freedom can be good, it's permanent.
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>>547946886
guess you're gonna have to play her!
she sucks
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>>547946717
Ok sure. My point was to establish that I’ve invested enough to clear endgame with my current unit usage, and 9/9 crab is plenty of evidence, this is off-topic.
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CZN begging stream when?
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>>547946828
You are schizo who sees everyone as your enemy, I rolled for Yuki and asked for buffs. You are as retarded as the izzat farmer in this thread (probably the same person). I hope your daughter/sister/mother gets gangraped by your countrymen.
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Are there any gibs coming for Chizuru’s banner?
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>>547946925
>Random card, only -1
>>547946834
Theres a reason everyone deletes all sustain only cards
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>>547946723
futility is actually good, on the correct unit its all the healing you'll ever need.
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>>547946457
2 atk 2 crit damage is what you run on every DPS unless you're swiping stamina
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>>547947159
You can manipulate to deck to get the -1 on the card that you want
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>>547945763
the total of every character is 300
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>>547947116
>outs himself this hard
Holy fucking lmao so you basically just want to gatekeep people from Yuki who don't want to roll for her unless she's good. Schizo subhuman faggot.
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>>547944925
>>547945126
Yeah it took me hours just to get 2. I beat Judas level 63 so I assumed it’d be enough
But crab still won
Will take me days to get fragments ready and lebeled up but I’d spend less sanity that way
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>>547947159
i've watched crab clears that got 4 extra turns because of futility...
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>>547947337
>toxo image
as an impartial 3rd party i officially declare you the loser of this argument
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>>547947534
Whatever helps you cope at night.
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>asking for buffs is now gatekeeping
?????????????????????????
theres being retarded or autistic then whatever this fucking cretin thought typing up would be any sort of the term meaningful
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wescamott sounds decent for haru, has anyone tested?
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our guy Dreamy said Yuki is better than Haru
We will never get a buff
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>>547947652
>illiterate subhuman spergs out
Saying that the buffs should happen AFTER her banner ends is gatekeeping because you want people who don't want to roll for a bad unit to miss out on her if she ends up being good.
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>>547946251
It's +10% to charged shot
Unless you meant the Expose weakness buff, but you don't need 230% crit damage for that one
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>>547947756
Haru's buff is whaling for her e2/e6
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>>547947756
True true Haru is so weak give her a buff devs
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>>547947839
Those are complete dogshit though.
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>>547947739
You'll only get the passive bonus if anchor shot is pulled from the draw pile. If you're recycling it from discard with anchor pointer you have no passive
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>>547946723
guidance is pretty good sustain
and it applies to anyone's drawing btw, not only the owner of the card
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>>547948046
dam people tested it? yeah that's bad
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>>547948046
doesn't westmascott put a card in the draw pile then immediately pull it out?
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https://youtu.be/Ot4_33CI1TI
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>>547947739
anchor pointer needs to pull from deck for draw passives to apply, and +25% additive is bad on anchor. douglas better, priscilla more interesting.
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>>547948217
Hey dont post my video
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>>547946397
Uh oh ESL melty.
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These are trash right.
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>>547947116
Not the anon that you're replying to, but I too rolled Yuki and it would be nice to have her buffed.
I simply belive, as I find sensible, that buffing her during her banner is unhealthy in every imaginable way.
It opens doors for characters to simply have their numbers increased arbitrarily if people don't roll enough, which would lead to every banner being a stand-off between the company wanting people to roll and people refusing to roll demaning arbitrarily higher numbers just to demand something. See Koreans demanding apolo-gibs for the tiniest error in text, math or explanations.

The people being upset at the idea that a character might be buffed -after- the banner ends are acting like crypto-bros, and I don't like it. They almost consider characters as a promise of Return of Investment and they consider it scummy if someone dare make a character better down the line once they can't instantly purchase them anymore causing them to potentially lose out on invisible points in a singleplayer game where I can only expect their intent is bragging for clout online and the idea of losing out on that scares them.

They are ill in the mind and should not be taken seriously. Twice over so when you realize they would genuinely prefer the devs sell actual power-creep as a feature rather than risk something being brought up to par after they themselves judged the character not good enough for them.
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>>547948253
wtf so douglas just mogs every striker partner.
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>>547948216
why would you spend 3EP on that with haru?
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buff Haru now
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>>547948216
Once per battle sure. That doesn't make up for not having a passive the rest of the time.
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>>547948428
>owen image
>mentally ill blogpost
like pottery
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>>547947793
buffs should happen regardless whether its during or after but a buff happening after wouldnt be something i consider gatekeeping either calling it such is retarded. what shouldnt happen is something hastily made that the kit breaks given the incompetence of the devs
>>547947041
guessing nia cassius is fine or im supposed to play cassius barry instead?
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>>547948632
-5 Izzat jeetanon
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>>547948531
Fishing for this every new season isn't fun!!!
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>>547948453
yes. its not just douglas and striker though, its all the 3 stars for dps classes (zatera > eloise, yuri >>>>> carroty, nakia > rosaria/daisy). They really screwed this one up in a way that they will probably have to address at some point.
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>>547948692
You're brown.
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>>547948545
ah i see i read the first post but didn't register passive for some reason. I need a nap
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>>547948406
Personally I think any Soul Rip that isn't the one that activates when discarded is trash. Especially the ones that only activate when you discard from hand, since one of the better uses of Soul Rip is discarding cards from deck through Nia's Curiosity or her Ego skill.
I'd take left and maybe remove it later if needed
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TLDR: Yukifags don't want Yuki to be buffed before her banner ends because they don't want people to roll for her because of meta and they are doing Olympic gold medalist tier mental gymnastic to try to make it sound like a good and fair thing.
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Wow you guys weren't lying about the izzat shit. This guy would much rather die on his poohill than disgrace his izzat.
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>>547948835
I'm sorry, that's your screen at low brightness.
Turn up the brightness and the brown face staring back at you will go away.
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>within 37 pulls to get a 5*
>next 10 pulls
Yup, don't have materials for her but I'm happy to to have her.
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sybau bau you dumbass yukek
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>>547948983
>t. Owenjeet
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why would you metafag over partners anyways im still going to use Rin's, yuki's, and haru's sig over the fucking bear
>>547948818
+1 izzat rajeesh
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ROLL ROLL ROLL ROLL BEFORE HER T0 BUFFS FAAASST!
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>>547949052
Sorry Rajeesh.
-5
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against my better judgment, what the fuck is izzat? Or do I even want to ask?
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>>547948975
What the fuck is "izzat"? Is this some new zoomoid slang?
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>>547948975
He seems to have resorted to accusing other anons of being jeets like him.
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>>547949171
>>547949193
see >>547930119
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>>547949171
>>547949193
New social credits slang from India dropped.
That's it, that's the meme.

>>547949224
Yeah, it's crazy how it be like that.
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>>547949171
Every time you see an owenpost you can know it's a jeet farming izzat.
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>>547949171
>>547949193
it's the latest poltard slur against saars
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>this place
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Thoughts?
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>>547949193
A post on /int/ about Indian social credit system blew up. At least that's where I discovered it.
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>>547949460
e0 yuki is truly bad
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>>547949193
Apparently some Indian cultural thing where they would rather double-down 10 times in a row and completely memoryhole anything that contradict themselves than admit they said one dumb thing "Oh shit, I didn't consider that, you're right, my bad" like a normal human being
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>>547949171
>>547949193
Indians have a religious social credits belief they need to “own” people. That’s why they are the biggest pieces of shit possible and gloat about it. That’s why all the cuckposters of gacha generals are shitskins that get really defensive and butthurt when you point out they are trying to farm izzat.
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>>547949171
>>547949193
It's like the indian equivilant to honor and maintaining their reputation. Jeets will unironically let their daughters get raped before admitting they're wrong. Even when it applies to an anonymous board like 4chan because they just can't fathom losing an argument as it'll be a blow to their izzat.
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>>547949460
LMAO
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>>547949460
now you'll get to find out who was telling the truth.
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>>547949460
>Got her best partner too
You're set
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>>547930119
Saving face is funnier and makes for entertaining cultivation novels at least
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>>547949421
>be vlogger of texas
>post teaser of vlog of very very small indian village which eat and throw shit on twitter
>collective of india on their way to fuck his mother and sister, try to dox vlogger, call vlogger on his personal cellphone
>still village of 1000 people among a billion jeets
if izzat didnt exist they wouldnt have made a literal and figurative shitstorm over that and carry on their day.
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>>547949527
>>547949690
>>547949753
I will try to prove everyone wrong by building a good Yuki deck. Pray for my safety on this perilous journey
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>>547949460
>He fell for the building pity meme
Well you atleast got sexo. Now you brace for next week when the indians shift gear and shitpost abut actually how Yuki is great and retards who saved for Chizuru are bricked. Followed by counter-shitposting if the Yukibuffs aren't significant
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Hey guys I see there's a schizowar going on right now but I just recently returned to the game after a couple of weeks and I don't know if I'm misremembering but back then the Zero system was free but now I have to pay 36k credits to get a stage? What's going on?
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>>547949876
Maybe Yuki's yukis bless you on this journey.
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>>547949935
It's only free if you beat a codex and select a higher level one. Generating a new codex was never free. They're adding a daily free merge eventually
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>>547949920
Nah, I've just been really enjoying playing with Nia and I figured Yuki would actually be a fun character to play with her since they (at least in theory) synergize well with each other
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>>547949935
It was never free, you have Alzheimers bro...
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ORANGE PULLS WHEN
I thought I'd have her by now
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>>547946723
If you got confiscations use that to redraw freedom when it would decrease something important down to 0.
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>>547949527
So is e6 Yuki.
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>>547948147
All the yuki coded weps function the same way. Worthless if moving from discard
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My account feels fucking blessed for once in these kinds of games
Without using any of the crystals I got:
Hugo, then Yuki from her banner in like 30 rolls
On the standard I got Khalipe from the intro 50 rolls one and now Veronica for my first guaranteed 5 star
I do want Renoa simply because she's the only interesting story character so far, but I guess I can wait until I hit 300 summons on the standard banner
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>>547950642
Damn, that's actually quite lucky
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>>547950056
she's covered in jizz...
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okay but no actually whats a yuki deck if i dont have veronica?
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>>547950960
you don't have a yuki deck then, or an account even
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Oh the Tressa cheese comp:
I do have Hugo. Would he be better than Cassius? Enough to work with Tressa having merely 2 healing daggers daggers?
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Give it to me straight bros. Can Yuki be any good or is she bait to get us to spend crystals? I have a lot of crystals saved up and got her, but wondering if I should try and get more copies.
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>>547951171
T0
ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>547949876
Good? Not so sure on that. She will be perfectly fine where shes meant to though.
>her shilled basin
>future aoe order basins whenever they come
>lab0 surprisngly thanks to rat,brainwash,ecstasy,dopamine.
>some farming stages for potentials/frags
Its misery attemtping crab9 or family head 9
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So is chorizo a dps or what
Spoonfeed me sirs
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>>547950331
The gibs are gone, what dont you understand. Couple next update on the 3rd. Some from monthly reset. And thats it for then another 3 weeks
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I haven't gotten a decnet Mei Lin deck uet, but I have various Selena decks to support her when I finally get lucky
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Good Morning Sirs,
Roll for Yuki saars, or your and your family are bloody bastard, thank you.
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>>547951131
Cassius is better for Save Data content after you got a cracked deck, he sucks in chaos
Hugo is better in chaos, still good for Save Data content, but Cassius's celling is higher
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>>547951283
Chorizo is edible. Shes a psionic. Potentially void. We know nothing aside from the 5 card arts on the czn page, at least 1 upgrade card
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>>547951131
I never should've doubted the power of Cassius
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>>547951131
The Cassius comp requires him because of his final potential which gives morale and fortitude. Hugo is not as good but will still do tons of damage.
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>>547951283
I'm thinking sub-dps at best or a support with mediocre damage capability (Rei's archetype).
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>>547951171
I got her and don't regret it at all because she is pure sex but meta wise she is also pure dogshit.
She literally does Amir levels of damage and Amir is a tank.
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>>547951171
Shes not limited... why blow your load. Eventually you will dread seejng her as she spooks your 50/50s and standard rolls
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>>547951171
if you really like her gameplay and have actual $$$, go for E2 so she's more comfy in early chaos. Otherwise don't worry about getting more copies
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>>547951576
>gay ass forced infinite
wow poggers.
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>>547951485
>>547951576
>>547951632
My Cassius is far from unlocking the final potential and from actually using it with the memory frags at hand.
Though same goes for Tressa since I didn’t roll any with DOT.
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I stopped rolling because I'm running out of materials to level characters. Units aren't a problem right now, it's the stupid rocks.
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>>547951640
Spiritbind makes all status cards your team create 0.
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>>547949171
>>547949193
Izzat is chinese "face" taken to extremes, and the reason why one indian feeling "wronged" can instantly summon 20 more ready to murder you.
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>>547950084
they do in save data content. nia and yuki are the weakest chaos characters in the game so running them together there will suck.
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>>547951901
Is this real? That would be godlike with Kayron.
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coping fagroncels
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>>547950960
I think the play then is to copy her Prepare skill that draws one of her own cards, and pair her with Nia
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youre response?
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>>547952348
I shit and piss myself to assert dominance over the devs.
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>>547952348
I have never gotten this, am I really that casual?
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GAYRONCHADS RISE UP!
We just need free partner ego materials and 1-2 more characters to come out with kits completely subservient to Kayron and our E6 DEMIGOD might catch up to e0 mei lin and tressa!
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>>547952510
It only shows up on the desktop version. Mobile and emulators don't get it.
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>>547952348
>Each game products related business entity shall post the warning phrase "excessive gaming may interfere with normal daily life" on the game screen for at least three seconds per hour during the game pursuant to Article 12-3 (1) 5 of the Act.
It's one of Korea's backward ass laws to "protect" people. Nothing else to be said.
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>>547952000
Yes. Another epiphany is ap1 every 3 exhuast of status. And a draw 1 for every 3 status exhaust
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>>547952348
Worst thing about the game. Unskippable and lingers on your screen every hour, at the hour
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>>547952804
Phew I only play in mobile.
I was really worried for a second that I was washed up.
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>>547952348
my life is already full of problems, I've already lost the rng in life and are losing two out of my five sense very slowly anyway It won't be long before I give up
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>>547952998
beetusbro...
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>>547947159
>Theres a reason everyone deletes all sustain only cards
Holy fucking retardGOD
Those fucking niggers delete all sustain and wonder why their deck gets stomped outside of the daily simulation farm
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This shit doesn't stack even though it shows that it would... what the fuck man...
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>>547953219
You don't need sustain outside of chaos because all savedata content is a dps race.
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>>547952998
My condolences bro, I've seen (and keep seeing) my father degrade mentally and physically due to a disease, if I get the same thing I'll 100% off myself
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>>547951901
sauce?
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my current comps are:
>tressa + mika + cassius
>yuki + amir + nia
>khalipe + orlea + beryl
anything i should change? i also play mei lin + selena but selena isn't that good, i wish i was lucky enough to roll for veronica
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>>547953510
Holy fucking retarded niggerGOD
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>>547953510
I fucking wish it wasnt this way, but it really is just best to rip all heal and shield cards out of your decks
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>>547953795
use rei instead of amir
work on your memory fragments
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>>547951936
I ran out of mats, but let's see how this goes
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>>547953795
Rei works well with Mei Lin too so you should probably build her
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>>547953910
>t. Damagelet
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>>547954271
>*yiff* *yifffffff*
t. wheelchairing brainlet
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>>547953795
>R2 furfag
>"Selena isn't that good"
git gud holy fuck
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>>547953795
mark spam selena is extremely good though but alright
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>>547942532
>3x of her best upgrade card
How much farming do I need to get this
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>>547954351
I am a Mei Lin scholar thoughbeit.
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wouldn't it be funny if chizuru was built for the knot?
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>>547925085
Clearly the devs don't disagree
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>>547953973
>use Rei instead of Yuki
FTFY
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Fuck Yuki
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>>547925085
The sad consequences of hiring trannies and kikes to moderate the site.
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Hows this
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>>547947041
And swallows
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I've been wondering: had I put this much effort in farming Tressa's deck to farm someone else like Luke or Rin would have I achieved the same results? Tressa is the most known one because she is the best or because she is a common unit?
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>>547952348
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>>547955554
She can't even handle an onion
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>>547955745
you figured it out, luke is god tier but no one put in the effort yet
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Can you stop calling each other indians for five minutes
Go back to /pol/
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>>547955458
think for yourself
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>>547955745
holy shit... yukibros we just didn't farm her deck enough...
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>>547955904
And if I refuse? What are you gonna do, kill me? The crab already did that.
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>>547955458
Good
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>finally got over 40% base crit Luke
with Rei buffing him, he's a fucking monster what the hell
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this shit easy
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>>547955745
do you even mechanically understand what you were farming or were you just copying a guide online?
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>>547956151
wtf
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>>547955458
Noice
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>>547955904
Renoa needs bigger tits
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>>547956247
>>547956130
>>547956020
this renoa is so funny
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>>547956247
pretty gyut
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>>547956151
Post turn count.
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>>547956629
hmmmmmmmmm........ nyo~
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>>547956215
Yes but the epiphanies and copies have been a bit. I managed to copy healing dagger once before I managed to copy the Move 2 card from Rin.
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Okay assume I level up Hugo to kill the crab. Which epiphanies should I focus on? Which card should I copy?
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>>547955765
cute!
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>>547954689
do you go full on marks, or the upgrade that does fua?
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Rei of Light bros, how does middle work? The chosen card gets +50% atk the rest of the battle?
If middle is not worth, left is best here, right?
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>>547957584
middle is best. use the 20 points you save on a remove or a gear bag.
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>>547957584
Middle is whole fight
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>>547957684
>>547957712
Already have a gear bag, so I'll go with middle. Thanks bros
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>>547957584
Is right ever worth taking over middle? I feel like it should have Retain
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This deck is fucking bricked just because the one card I needed didn't get the right epiphany.
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>>547952348
they're right
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>>547958110
>HURR, I didn't get the ultimate wheelchair card, literally unplayable, pls pity me, leddit :(
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>>547955745
Luke just needs 1 dupe of either retrieve/3hit. And a 2nd dance.
Thats it.
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>>547955458
Veronica is the best rapedaughter in the game
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>>547957927
Right is best. Lets you choose any card(in the deck/discard/hand) and buffs it til u use it.
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These choices immediately brick your run
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>>547958881
the devs are thinking of making that 2nd option more common as a pseudo sweep mechanic
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Bros, this game is too time consuming, I think I'm just gonna take it as a bonsai game, use my stamina, and after 6 months or a years, just stat check the basin with mediocre decks instead of malding at not being able to get a decent deck and having to restart over and over again
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>>547959014
They're making it a permanent third choice.
Unsure if it's warranted to call it pseudo-sweep though.
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>>547958881
Its salvagable if you get replace 3 basics on the other blessing. only that can save it
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>>547959093
Hey, if that's the way you have fun then more power to you!
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Do any of the card upgrade nodes in potential increase the damage of Ballistas or the damage from opening found upgrade version?
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>>547959273
Thank you man, is not like I don't find the game fun, I genuinely really like it, i just don't have enough time to play it as much as I'd like to
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>Mika has abandonment trauma
>players already want to stop using her
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>>547959115
>replace 3 basics
>upward slash on Khalipe is replaced
>run is over
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>>547959402
Opening found is only affected by beryls crit stats. So you can get em or ignore em. She takes 0 potential investment to work.

I believe ballistas are unique but i dont got her to confirm. Crits affect it too
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>>547959402
Ballistas are unique 0 cost cards, so the unique potential node.
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>>547959608
>>547959643
Thanks
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>>547954005
>First run with level 50 Yuki
>Clear very easily
What the hell are people complaining about? She seems great
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>>547959793
great job!
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Which of these would you take?
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>>547960051
I like right but vulnerability is so good
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>>547960051
think for yourself
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>>547960051
Left
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>>547960051
2nd option
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>>547959793
wow i am rolling Yuki right now
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>>547960051
the First option
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>>547960051
The one on the right combos with her trickery strike epiphany that draws an inspiration card, if you jave that one
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I like Amir and Luke, any ideas on who should be the third in the party (Cassius or Nia would be my guess).
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>>547960051
Draw power imo. Vul from her other card
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>>547960051
Always takes right, it's one of her best card overall, can be fetched with trickery epi that draws a inspi card, extra freezing blade procs,gives you 2 extra attacks with inspi, you also want to dupe this 1 or 2 times
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>>547960875
Rei
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>>547957045
Bros...?
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>>547961523
Are those bugged? I only ever see the same art.
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>>547960051
left, I find it more difficult to get vuln at the right time than drawing her cards
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>>547961627
Deep Trauma switches the art.
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I think Yuki's biggest problem is that she doesn't do anything broken. Mei Lin and Tressa have cards that scale so incredibly well when you have optimized decks for all 3 combatants in your team, it's almost unfair to compare Yuki (and many other) DPS' to them
If they'd want Yuki to be able to compete, they'd need to do something like remove the max cap from this card, remove Freezing Blade's Unique tag or add moving cards from played pile into her Ego skill
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>>547958881
The first option is actually pretty good when you get the HP% debuff. -50% HP is pretty brutal.
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help a new mei lin fag out bros
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>>547961523
we don't hugwo anymore bwo...
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>>547961859
it's unfair to compare any char to metafags chars like Mei Lin or Tressa
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>>547959793
>level 80 lab
>level 60 veronica
yuki really performed
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https://files.catbox.moe/9oeu03.mp4 swear on my mama it's not porn
i really like this beryl build but i need to hunt for more extra dmg fragments
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>>547961964
Right because 0 cost starter is always good and the addition is good. Plus she's one of those characters where it doesn't matter how many epiphanies you get, you'll never run out of cost.
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>>547962195
They exist in the same game. I think every character should have some broken combos that make you want to play them
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>>547959102
We already have three choices with the zero upgrades, so it would be a fourth?
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>>547962256
Don't open this guy's.
That's some absolutely disgusting and vile shit right here
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>>547961859
Yuki is a character that does a thousand cuts instead of charging up her load for 1 hit or debuff on 1 target. And thats fine.
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>>547962195
so compare her to rin or renoa or luke who all have some kind of payoff mechanics when you enable them. yuki's peak is playing iceberg cleave.
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>>547961859
Yuki should have e2 at base imo. I know it would never happen
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>>547962992
The zero upgrade would add a fourth slot, yeah.
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>>547963161
But there's no payoff for doing her thing. You can draw and play her entire deck and it's going to do peanuts when compared to Mei Lin
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>build Selena for Mei Lin
>build Beryl for retain build
>Rin + something
>Tressa + Orlea heal daggers
Which way for best single target boss killing? My Khalipe is struggling and idk who to invest in
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>>547963380
Is there another character that loses a -20% at e1 rather than gaining a 20%? It just feels bad, I'm pretty sure adding 20% to it wouldn't make it broken either.
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>>547963460
It will kill the enemy what are you talking about. She can do 9/9 and these are solo single target bosses. I want to hear you bitch and moan when they inevitably put aoe content for season.
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>>547963751
iceberg cleave is already a good card at e0, its 180x2 aoe for 1. it's everything else in yuki's kit/lack of scaling thats a problem not iceberg raw stats.
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>>547958442
Wait really?
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Repose or Hunger for dupe?
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What am i in for
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>>547964547
One trillion restarts for usable deck.
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>>547963830
I have Yuki, so I'm probably not going to be bitching about them adding content that suits her better. But realistically, any content where Yuki shines, Mei Lin will probably shine too, since they have similar playstyles
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>>547964381
repose, obviously...
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>>547964547
Depends, do you have Veronica?
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>>547964141
>pick 2 vul stacks or 3 morale stacks on flash dash (1 cost)
>subdue with inspiration, pref ap1 divine here and dupe it 1 to 2 times
>tricky to draw inspiration or the retain/retreive
>freezing blade with +1 morale
>remove basic cards
>give 9 cost forbidden that counts down
>4 pc conquerer
There everything serves a purpose.
Feels good to play with draw supports
doesnt need mika
Not broken but not bad
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>>547964924
>give 9 cost forbidden that counts down
kek
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https://files.catbox.moe/47v8fy.mp4 last beryl showcase before bed :3
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Does this buff only Nia?
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>>547965013
What other unit has subdue to draw for self 2 attacks that gives +1 ap (divine) and shuffles the deck when theres no attacks left?
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>>547964547
it's time, hotfix nerf
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>>547964895
Uhhhh
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>>547964867
My thinking is that repose can't draw itself so having 4 (on second boss dupe) might be bad. And Nia discard 2 hungers seems very strong.
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Uhh Rinbros? what the fuck does the one on the right mean? and which one of these is stronger
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>>547965159
rin, meilin with "bad" epiphanies, probably others
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>>547965391
Left is the best, epi is meh but still fine. Middle is fine if your save file can't take the extra 20 points from left. Right (needs stance to use it) is garbage until e4/6.
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>>547965391
hmmmmm i will permit you to use the card - kim samsung
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>>547964547
puffiness
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>>547963830
In a gazilion turns.
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>>547965281
playing a +1 AP repose is BETTER than drawing a hunger and works in every comp.

>>547965391
i always take left, I dont want to lose a stance activation for so little payoff and middle is just a bad card. but maybe others disagree.
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>>547965159
If you use Nia and Veronica, your Repose will draw Nia's card draw spells that allow you to get more Reposes. Since that Repose divine Epi is so incredibly strong, I think your priority should be to maximize the opportunity you have with it.
If you need a second Hunger, you can always use another character's deck later, but you won't get more of those Reposes later
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>>547965864
meant to reply to >>547965281
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On the dec 3 update they are making card events giaranteed for forbidden carda right?
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>>547965159
Loads of units.
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>use partner ego skill
>behind it is another partner ego skill
Wew lads
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>>547965864
>>547965818
Thanks, taking repose then. Yeah Nia can always carry hunger herself, I'm retarded
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Chizuru kit reveal doko
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>>547966224
This is such a fucking retarded system.
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>>547964547
Many hours in chaos trying to get the move epiphany and +1 hit for passion card played on the same deck.
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>>547966191
Put them as a dps. Because supports yuki can use too.
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Does the order of characters on a team matter?
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chizuru the yuki inspiration support
it came to me in a dream
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>>547966654
you cant control it. striker -> vanguard -> ranger -> psionic -> controller, and yes its retarded that vanguard goes behind striker. idk where hunter goes i've never played hunter.
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Damn...I am now a Rinfan, what does "charm" mean in the mental breakdown sense though, I understand some of the other ones like fear but not this one
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>>547967562
She wants to breed
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Rate my Savedata design.
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>>547967562
She's really horny for (you)
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>>547967562
cocklust
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>>547967661
Very cute
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>>547967562
it's seriously a certain mental illness that shows up in prostitution
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>>547967749
Thanks!
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>>547967562
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i worked really hard on this mei lin fan art please be kind
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Chizuru's level 10 affinity L2D
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>>547968374
Hey can you deage her and make her a loli, slopbro?
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Are Rin and Nia just literal masochists then? if they both get horny from getting beaten the fuck up, Rin literally gets stress on chaos hard mode if she doesn't get hit during the battle
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doe the foggy crystal ball works on veronica ballistas?
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>>547968821
Yes
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>>547967562
Too bad shes a brick
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>>547968435
Sex
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What that new mode in event will be about?
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>>547968781
Yeah they're perverts
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>>547969060
She bricks me up
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>>547968725
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hey gays. do attacks/heals that are forbidden cards fall under unique cards or common cards for potentials?
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>>547969640
Yeah
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>>547967562
>>547969060
Rin seems like she'd be really good at e4, where you can delete pretty much all of her cards except Destruction, Annihilation, and Black Dance, then you just clone Destruction a couple times.
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>>547970170
Does she actually suck at e0? I've been using stamina on building her for like a week
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>>547967562
It’s more of a despair over being alone that causes her to somehow get charmed by (You) there
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Chaos zero bread...
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>>547970360
She's fine at E0 but requires a lot of investment into her fragments, like minimum 50% crit chance 150% crit damage.
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>>547970360
>Does she actually suck at e0?
No, but when you have characters like Mei Lin and Tressa, I think e4 Rin is a better comparison to those types of "OP busted mistake" characters.
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>>547970486
Shouldn't it be anxiety like Mika or fear like Haru then? I don't really get it, if she loves the captain why would she start to get horny when she's away from him
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>>547970360
no she's probably second best e0 SSR DPS after meirin. some ppl here make a game out of shittalking her tho probably because she's such clear waifubait.
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>>547969520
triplets in there
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>>547970876
>>547970876
>>547970876
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they didn't buff yuki so i'm taking us all down with NO bread
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>>547968435
What's wrong with her face? Some sorta shadow?



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