Vyper Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/11-21-2025-update.90383/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/remember to report and ignore inhouse spammers.Threadlocked:
>>548071252>inhouses bad because uhhh they just are*fucks up the op*
>enemy Drifter, Infernus, Paige>russians>spend the whole game talking shit>spam pause as we take their patronValve please ban all russians.
you're all bearing witness to perfection
for me its the movement buff.
>>548071574cry about it in your discord, tranny
>>548071252You forgot to put the discord in the OP.discord.gg/4vn9ErPrDJ
>>548071854Kill yourself, keep your discord faggotry and drama to yourself.
thoughts on my max bullet resist debuff build
>>548071963>picrel>m player saying thatindustry plant?
>>548071802>>548071854You can't make this shit upInhouse trannies really are the worst posters this thread has.
another forced 50/50 game where every lane got completely dominated and I had a dynamo that didn't press ult once
deadlock isn't even released yet and it has more effort and soul put into the voice lines than every other moba/hero shooter everis it only downhill from here?
>>548072049please respond
>>548072825*rapes you*
>>548072049>Hunters Aura paigewhy are paigetrannies so fucking retarded
>eats 3 ults like it's nothingI love frenzy
>>548072902that isnt a thought>>548072930it gives more -bullet resist and puts you over the 4.8k gun hump, but its a flex slot admittedly....
>>548071854>erp in the urlNot being subtle, are you, discordtroons
>>548073112it's a shit fucking item on paige, retard.if you REALLY need the 3200 investment get something actually useful like Heroic Aura
>>548073036I'd credit the paige giving you 1500 shields+the ult heal more than frenzy.
>>548073036sevenbros...
Why is Seven so addicting?
99% of the world:>a discord link? sick! *click*a vocal minority of fat socially maladjusted chudjaks:>t...twanny.... urhgh... discowd twannny!!
>>548073417does that item give -bullet resist or +ability range?
>>548073606Mate I'm a old ss13 fag, I've seen where this shit goes and it doesn't get pretty. Now the general is dead since you have a terminally online, mentally ill retard spamming AI slop for some discord grudge.Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>548073606don't click discord links from strangers
>>548071583but anon, eu is russians now
>>548073606you have no irl friends btw
My problem with the inhouses is that when I first played it was like 75% of the people in the lobby had meme builds and just fucked around and brawled constantlyNow it's a lot of people tryharding on their main building gun, focus farming with 1 or 2 midas items and generally playing very safe, rarely fighting for just the sake of fighting.Sometimes it's better than solo que cause there's 25% less faggots but usually it's worse, the games are stompier and good players don't' wanna fuck around and sandbag
>>548072675the newest hero leaks aren't building confidence in them continuing to hit homeruns so... definitely
>>548073606they never end well.
>>548074013>i wish everyone played bad on purpose
>>548072049Cut Hunters for weakening headshot, give you 4.8k and u can upgrade late for crippling for 9.6kEven backstabber would be better than hunters 2bh
>>548073606>heh... this general will be different... youll seeNo.
>>548074013I'm worse than most of the people in the lobbies and I still sandbag.
>>548074108paige cant headshot man
>>548074231she can, it just doesn't have bonus scaling. dumbass.
add a thornmail item pls
>>548074468that's called return fire and it's better.
>>548074468here you go, saar! (No we won't buff it)
>>548074468stupid ass
>>548074612>>548074613i think he meant for antiheal
>>548074612>>548074613i dont want it taking up an active slot
>>548074934they need to just bite the bullet and remove spirit sap from building into focus lens
>>548074934>tier 2 towerthere are people who think yoshi isn't icefrog
>>548074923Then it would be broken or useless
>>548072049funny but not worth it, especially in matchmaking.Your intentions are noble with the hunters aura, but the rest of the build doesnt scream 15m radius. doesnt fit.You've made an item build, not a paige build. what does paige do that other characters cant? you are ultimately a shield bot, for the weapon damage buffs primarily. before you echo shield, you might want knockdown. to be able to hit your 3 on someone who hasnt fucked up and help your team before your shields are super amped. that squeezes some value out of your other 2 unimpressive abilities. you might want some sustain, i like radiant regen and rapid recharge. move speed helps in tougher times better than vitality, and helps you defend walkers solo. also being able to spam 1 helps the farm and the team damage late is nice, but rememebr your place shieldbot is top priority. if you already have (improved spirit + rapid recharge + t3 dragon) late, then maybe spirit burn. you can be a carry for scourge, or a curse for the right target. whatever your sustain (vitality or radiant) dont go for resists, if you need more survival than stamina mastery and try for vertical. you can be a carry for divine against a bop, holliday or pocket (bugged and works on lasso when it probably shouldnt. going by mo combo). don't be alone when your ult is burning a hole in your pocket. you shouldn't be on lane cleanup when there's a fight, but it happens.
>>548074326this is prob right. it probably triggers. but still you're not gonna hit that consistently on paige. don't rely on root for every proc.
>>548074934I appreciate the walker buffs. They need to nerf focus harder and also give souls that same range growth.
>3.8Mb patch>on Thanksgivingwhat critical bug was fixed?
>>548075542>seven/geist/dynamo bombing a wave and then running away with all the souls without ever putting themselves in a dangerous positionno that's the one good change with the floor souls
>>548071252If u enter my games with vyper/ginnis/sinclair/bebop/mirage. Just leave at the start and save us some time.
>>548075870Vyper is good thoughbeit and McGinnis is solid with the gun buffs
Why can't I parry Billy light melee? I have no trouble with any other hero. Is it like half a frame or something? FFS
>Kelvin is banned.. because i say so!smogon players
detailed full body look at fencer
>>548076258he's red for an amazing reason
>>548076258zzz
NOOO PROTECT THE LEAKERSSSSI MUST CONSOOOOOM SOCIAL MEDIA FROM FAGGOTS WHO DRIP FEED POINTLESS INFO BECAUSE I GOT NOTHING ELSE GOING ON IN MY LIFEEEEEE
>>548076235who the fuck are you quoting
>>548074934EAT A TURKEY GOD DAMNIT
>>548076181you can't reaction parry a light melee. you're predicting it. when pockets dumbass who has no place walking towards you is going for a melee its super obvious. you can intentionally brush by most heroes if they're looking for it and chances are you'll get your successful reaction parry.billy's game is around melee. billy is obligated to watch for it. to bait it. and everybody fighting billy is also waiting for it. people know what you want as your character and are more ready to negate you. some people don't even try for any melee until you parry first. do not try to predict parry billy unless its a hail mary. if you do, that's you going yeep, and giving billy his ideal scenario.
I'm going to CONSOOM and then I'm going to BROOL and there is nothing you can do about it
>>548076258lynch this ixian eyesore
>>548074934why do so many arbitrary things in this game increase as time goes on
>kick ass in game>rest of team are lobotomitesHonestly getting really sick of this. Had a 2/12 vindicta not buying debuff remover against a team with two focus lens and a knock down. This seven went 1/9, billy went 3/11. My stomach hurtsIs it this hero? Never felt more me hurr team durr than playing Geist. How do I carry? My rank is in freefall
there's something funny about leakers commissioning artists to draw (less accurate) leaked content because they were yelled at for using AI to prevent the backtracing of their leaked content
>>548076258It's unlikey, but i really hope these are wrong. he looks so boring. and in this one, i really hope those shoes are wrong. he looks stupid. those shoes, those pants, the vest, the boring head. the very concept of fencing, this is the most straightforward boring spin on it. because there is no spin. he 's a dumbass boring high school brat who likes fencing. happens to be ixian. he has horns, thats the big twist? Take his kit and put it on anyone who can find an excuse to have a long thin stick (a bone, a scrap piece of metal like gungale death bullet). this is uninspired.Compare it to the theme and design of billy, a real knockout. (not his kit, just the concept). dumbass ny gringo greaser punk. making a mean mug and talking a big game, like a goat. the goathead is a slamdunk for the theme and design of billy (billy's name is also a great fit). this fencer shit is nothing. bland.I know nothing about his kit, but what a boring character. might as well be the training dummy.
>>548077428>double parryNever gets old
>>548077498billy is anachronistic dogshit and should be deleted from the game.
>>548077428>not a single mod based, fuck those faggots
>>548075095>what does paige do that other characters cant? fill the floor with dragon aoe and green circle aoe was my thinkin'
>>548077498good post put it on the forums
>everyone talks about fencer or the made up furry hero>"grave" with a fucking zues ult will be top tier and top priority across players
>>548077498this is a billy post if i've ever seen one
>>548077428rape everyone as gunginnis
>>548077428I don't think Geist is able to solo carry a game sadly. You need at least 1 other person to be competent to have a decent chance at winning and that's a big ask.
>>548076258>those sneakersbruh
>>548077498+1billy, paige, etc are puns, "fencer" is just what he is
This Thanksgiving, I'm thankful for snake pussy
>>548078797The name is probably placeholder. I can't complain about that yet.I also think paige is a tiny bit plain thematically. the arthurian legend stuff seems shoehorned in. but its inoffensive and more than nothing.
cant aim for shit?just play dynamo
Why would anyone buy bullet lifesteal when active reload exists
>>548077431i still don't understand the need to trace anything at all.how is valve able to trace the source from a screenshot?exif data? that's trivial to remove
This comp is 100% unwinnable. Literelly unable to play the game.I'm unnintalling and probably will just look at the next big update, this game is definitely dying at this rate. This patch is the worst so far and I don't see this game improving.Goodbye niggers.
>>548077727what are you even saying? he has a mod
That there are enough people clamoring for Deadlock news for there to be a whole cottage industry of "leakers" should tell Valve they need to hurry the fuck up and get a public Beta ready
Hmm. Hunter's aura worth it on a gun-ish miku? Make you better at fighting back when jumped, and I think the first tier (8% bullet debuff) applies to walkers.>>548079547Apparently they were also altering UI elements for each tester specifically. It's why skill leaks have edited cooldowns, because th real ones give away who's account it is.
>>548076258Looks kinda boring, we'll see in motion.
>>548079564eh, seems winnable
>>548079564>sinclair and billy on teamguaranteed loss
>>548077428How has no one said what the glaring issue is in this webm? This guy is once again showing he cheats. You aren't allowed to see enemy heroes behind veils. In this webm, you can clearly see the shadowey outline of haze and dynamo. I literally just tried this myself in labs. And you have some nerve complaining about your teammates. Stop cheating in games.
>>548077498The outfit under the school jacket is period accurate though, including the dumb shoes.
>>548076258Should have had an old money of hellsing vibe.
>>548078368they replaced her zeus ult with undying tombstone
>>548079564this is not unwinnable but assuming it's a low rank pub it's way less likely that the left team will achieve their wincon (getting random picks to snowball into statchecking/unfair teamfights) than the right team will achieve their wincon (baiting into 6v6 deathballs that they auto win due to superior CC)
>>548080217*or hellsing
>>548080095>billy on teamhow dogshit are you that you think billy is bad right now, let alone not top 5
>>548080421every time i play, the team with billy loseshence, billy is bad
Another patch btw.>>548080374What do you mean? Because its very likely I'm gonna main her because necromancer with summons.
make the "heals" a pick up consumable that only lasts for 1 minute
>>548080395It was shitlow ascendant lobby, so yeah, unwinnable.
>>548080217I mean, its all subject to change. I don't get why people are acting like its the final design or it'll even end up in the update since they have a habit of dropping or changing shit if it doesn't fit with their standards.I'm sorry to pop your bubble but I refuse to believe the update is coming dec, jan is way more likely
>>548080374>icefrog caves in and finally admits tombstone is an ultimate ability
>>548080723it was coming december just a week agoI don't think the heroes are planned for december though
>>548076258
>>548080723>I don't get why people are acting like its the final design or it'll even end up in the update since they have a habit of dropping or changing shit if it doesn't fit with their standards.because it's already got model and textures made. likely animations too. that means they already made several concepts for an initial design that they scrapped and iterated upon and this is the last thing they came up with and decided upon before sending it off to the rest of the artists on the teamyou shouldn't be expecting model reworks for anything that isn't a neon prime leftover or a mega obvious placeholder like viscuous. it just takes too much work to go through the development pipeline again
>>548079727Hunters is not worth on anyone because its a dead item in the most critical moments of the game
a biscuit heroa hero who's all about biscuits!
>cultist>tesla>titanic>fleetfoot+heroic>intensifying>active reload>fortitudeAnything major I'm missing from early-mid miku? Movespeed heavy split pusher.>healing tempoThat's like 2nd or 3rd item after all this.>>548080723I think ARAM, and the minion/patron/base overhaul is dec for sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the heroes are pushed back a month or two.
>>548081045cheesed to meet you
>>548081138British biscuits or the correct kind?
>>548081138>biscuitbut he's a 2000s thing? what the fuck is valve thinking
>>548081242custard creamsfig rollsbourbonsect
>>548081161Merc mag is pretty big if you are running fuckhuge mags since it lasts for the whole mag, kind of overlaps active reload tho
>>548081179honestly this is an overall minor change that doesn't impact rigging, texture work or animations much if at all, but i'll accept i lost
>>548080217You know, a Gregor type of hero in Deadlock would be neat>soldier in the Ixian War>gets curse in a suicide mission yet survives>still the mission was a failure>came back and everybody shuns him for his nasty eldritch parasite
>>548081045its never too late to withhold. raven had his own model more detailed than sinclair. and that's binned. though, my example might not hold water if raven was something like a neon prime hold-over.and we don't know how detailed the 3d is. just look at WIP model versions of billy. significant changes over time. i think theres 2 old examples on the wiki. topology changes not just colour.
north side has an invincible yellow walker in my game, it's at 0 HP and can't dievery neat great patch
why do you get comms restricted so easily nowadayscant even tell people to stop feeding like idiots without getting a 1 week chat restriction
>>548081823I say stuff like that every game and arefine you are just mad you can't drop racial slurs
>>548076258They should give him facepaint, big red nose and giant shoes
>>548081715I'd prefer his firefist ID. The clunky equipment would fit the setting too, fuck. Stop making me think about ideas that will never arise.
>>548077428>autoparry doesn't work on light meleeLmao
>>548080463because low elos can't pilot him, you retards are still heavy meleeing on that character despite quick melees doing superior dps and being more safe.
>>548081823they updated the telemetry they gather to check voice chat and transcribes it to text for reports with the anti cheat update.>>548082018I have never said a singular slur when playing them game. the most tame overwatch tier "flaming" where I just call my 0-15-4 teammates dogshit and that nets you a chat restriction after 1 game.
>>548082454Time for excessive sarcasm meta
>>548082172>in the ritual just to burn bloodslurpersDrifter, eat your shitstained boxers
wish they made drifter dung eater levels of gross, an actively repulsive hobo
>>548076258looks very boring, until we see his full kit and/or voicelines he'll be seen as very unlikable by most of the playerbase>>548077498billy's design is dogshit and screams "reddit" >>548082098warden 50 cent mod but with bigger shoes. release it now.
>PMtrannies post hereand the pieces are all starting to fall into place
>>548082734They already made Drifter sexy idk what you mean
Haunt ability:Hero gazes intensly at enemy for 1 second during which he cant act.If he successfully channels for entire second without breaking line of sight, he disappears and takes control of enemy hero for 5 seconds of haunt.During haunt, you can move enemy hero and use all abilities except ultimate, and he is considered as friendly to your team.Haunted enemy teammates can heavy melee him 3/4/5 times to exorcise him, breaking the spell, but it deals.heavy spirit damage to haunter and the haunted person.While controlling enemy hero with taunt you can also parry
>>548083172throughout gaming history, mind control has proven to be the most unfun form of crowd control ever. i get people like the "control other player" idea but its set in stone through out other games that its bad design.
>>548083172This is such a terrible idea you really have no clue about balance. They're supposed to land 3 heavy melees in 5 seconds? and even if they do they're rewarded with... injuring their teammate? Do you realise how hard it is to land 3 heavy melees in 5 seconds and how skewed your proposal's risk/reward is?
>>548076258I see the visionIt all depends on how he actually moves and feels in game thoughHe NEEDS to be as annoying as possible even more than Lash
>>548084193what direction would they take him? we already have>mean asshole (billy)>bratty asshole (mina)>egotistical asshole (lash)
>>548076258Man is completely without sauce
>>548084339flamboyant asshole, duhgive him an obnoxious lisp and a constant contraposto
>>548083172Fuck it, make it like Ringmaster ult
>>548084339Hes apparently a parry cuckSo a big part of his persobality definitely needs to be acting like a complete prick whenever you parry or counter someone successfullyAnd he gets increasingly more aggravating the better you areAnd not in a heel kind of way like LashOr a bratty kind of way like MinaBut the kind of way where you want to shoot up a school with him in it
Wraith is a fair and balanced hero.
>>548084992>play her>have no fun>play vs. her>have no funperfectly balanced.
>>548084759you'll have to explain to me how parrying is related to raising someone else's child. these buzzwords have completely lost the plot, haven't they?
How often do you see people using Geist 2 to heal others?
>>548082315i'm ass 4 bruh
>>548084758>swaps to a first person view>play a short osu minigame to break out
>>548085343im g4f
>>548074934I tried a couple games, it's still just painfully unfun. Every game is just retarded big groups of players fighting somewhere on the map. This isn't the game I love, it's just shit. If I wanted to 'brool' I'd go play Apex gun game/ TDM. I want these teams to be punished for their 'pointless' teamfights in jungle but it seems the game just isn't based on that right now, so what the fuck. It's so boring.
billy is a busted piece of shit
>>548085290I saw it once in a video if that counts
>>548071854Lmao it's actually real, what a bunch of faggots
>>548086110Bro your rebuttal?
>>548086110He gets directly countered by a single 800 item, you're just dogshit.
>>548076258inb4 this nigga has the sickest kit in the game and balling even harder than Yamatoe
Τhe black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>548072198you faggots who cry about the inhouse are just as fucking annoying as people spamming discord links and private matches. >HERE'S AN INVITE GUYS JOIN MY DISCORD ERP WITH ME AND DO HRT>WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DON'T PLAY THE GAME DON'T TALK TO EACHOTHER DON'T SOCIALIZEnow we have double the amount of faggots shitting up the thread. All of you stupid niggers should have your human rights revoked.
>>548086804I keep seeing people say that he's a parry character, but how would that work? In-built counterspell? That would suck dogshit. Unless parrying abilities parried them like a melee would, the seethe it could generate...
>>548087570>built-in return fire through genji-style deflectplease..
>>548087220You're not fooling anyone, you people act the exact same way as avatarfags
>>548087570clearly he will be Anti-Mage
have (You) ever bad a dream about playing deadlock? were there new heroes, new items, new map changes?
>>548088049>you people Show me any post that I've personally made. I'm not apart of your tranny edrama I'm tired of seeing all you faggots complain about discord rather than just talk about the game.
>>548087570I don't know but he'll for sure be a mid-range to melee character. Haven't really put thoughts into. Fencing in mind, maybe he'll parry/dodge stuff to build up something then counterattack? I just have a gut feeling we're being deceived by his looks and he'll actually be dunking hard on people akin to what Shiv and Yamato do just with a very different kit.
>>548087570>>548088271he's meant to have something like fiora w (cancer)
>>548088689Wtf is a fiora w
>>548088741
>>548088741NTA but I'm guessing he means this
>>548085290I try to but unironically people don't stick around for it.
>>548086461is that why pros keep picking him?
>>548089374Its funny because I distinctly remember Vindicta being aids in the recent pro matches, mind you I didn't stay up to watch the challenger matches for NA so maybe it was different there.
>>548089756her breasts are nowhere near that large
>>548089374if the pros in deadlock are anything like the pros in dota 2 being picked by them doesn't mean shit
>FioraWHO??
>>548086284You're saying this as if you're parrying a lot of light melee in any game. Might as well get counterspell so you can properly parry his 1 or ult.
>>548089756I've been seeing a lot of really good dictas this patch. Like "are they cheating or not" good.
>>548090184Same thing with GT, if you can land your shots consistently then you will be the most insufferable nigger to deal with. Thankfully the average player cannot aim
I wish I could aim. I wanna play Vindicta.
>>548089756She directly benefits from this patch more than most heroes and has received zero nerfs. The spirit investment spike makes her ultimate deal way more damage than before, she's doing 500 a shot by 5 minutes. The constant fighting and ganking also lets her snowball better.
>>548090105Not a lot, just once in lane then he is behind and loses
>>548089928ok bradley dragon
heroes for picrel feel? i want to be an annoying waveclearing piece of shit that still demands at least one enemy gamer to come deal with my bullshit while everyone else BROOLs
>Game lags whenever I look at the Sapphire Flame baseLiterally what could be causing this? I've tried reinstalling, disabling all mods, restarting my PC, and literally nothing has worked. My game ran fine before the latest balance patch.
>>548090427maybe ivy. with heroic and/or tempo. use your tether (which also buffs speed) to rocket a creep up lane. they'd have to clear 2.3 lanes for every 1 you clear. monster rounds. gun and spirit 4.8k spikes to help tickle walkers.would it be worth it? probably not. but funny.
>>548090350grind aimlabs for 15 minutes a day for a few weeks and you'll make it
>>548090359Ive been thinking about how they bought Improved spirit+rapid recharge and im 99% improved spirit ain't the play. Only he ult has good scaling at the 18 spirit from Improved is only +30dmg Or you could get litterally any other 1600 purp and get an effect that's worth more than 30dmg on one ability
>>548090350aiming isn't hard, you just need to make actual conscious effort on improving at it.it's not some gift that people randomly have. you probably haven't even thought about your mouse sensitivity or adjusting it to something that's actually better for you.
>>548090427slork
is there a cum mod for viscous
>>548091096>only her ult has good scaling and 18 spirit is only worth 30 damage for itSry I had a stroke
I hate being low ascendant, what the fuck do i even play this game for? The only reason i'm in the lobby is to fill slots for Eternus players to clipfarm. >Start game>Look at the enemy laners, recognize that they're eternus players i've been matched against several times before>Instantly know the game is doomed>Lose tower by 3 minutes with them having killed us 4 times>By the 10 minute mark they take our walker, nobody in the team helps>Eternus player leaves the lane 6k souls ahead and stompsI'm just fundamentally not good enough to be playing with these people, but i get matched against them over and over and over and over. I'm genuinely going to start AFKing in base from minute one when i recognize Eternus names on my lane, it's just a waste of my fucking time
>>548092560sorry honey, smurf detection decided you were doing a bit too well so now your elo is heavily weighed and you'll never fall no matter how much you losehave yo protect the lower ranks from you. you understand
>>548092829nice schizo
>>548092560that's how every game is at every mmryou either rape or get raped it's not very fun
>>548091771please respond
>>548091096its because it meets the 4.8k spirit investment and improved spirit upgrades to boundless so you dont get slotlocked
Did they revert the wall jump changes yet?
One aspect of the patch I haven't adjusted well to is the dropped souls in lane. I'm desperate to get to them and so I go into a dangerous area and take damage, which puts us into an even worse spot (and inevitably leads to deaths). Is there a visual cue on when souls are going to expire? Souls are king in lane so atm I just really don't know how to handle the change.
How did the laning phase play out in the "esports" scene?More aggressive or passive?
>>548092560why not just take the blender so you can at least attempt to improve
>>548091771>>548093115Yeah but it's outdated
>>548092560This is why being in Inititate/Seeker is the best. It's like the difference between UFC title matches where they play it safe vs 2 random fucks going at it full force with nothing to lose.
>>548094648I tried to watch but it's too boring so i dont know
>>548094648More fighting, less pushing overall. I don't know whether that counts as more or less aggressive.
>>548090414that guy mogs Saga
>>548093367Yea I know why they did it im saying u can hit 4.8k with any of the other purps and its only gonna cost you 30dmg on assassinateI know boundless got soft buffed from the elevated spirit levels but its probably bait too. If you had like 200 spirit the +15% from boundless is 30spirit which is only +50 damage on assasinateHer scaling just ain't there for the boundless tree
>>548095102This was my mentality at first, but i genuinely cannot overstate just how often i'm placed in an eternus lobby, and even if it helps me improve it's just fundamentally not fun and i'm done with it.
SEXLESS WAS RIGHTSEXLESS WAS RIGHTSEXLESS WAS RIGHTSEXLESS WAS RIGHTSEXLESS WAS RIGHTSEXLESS WAS RIGHTABOUT EVERYTHING
>>548094648Its more dynamic for sure and net more aggressive id say
>>548095345Then don't respond retard
I'm Archon 1 why am I being put in an Oracle 3 game
>>548096408There arent any players. Im oracle 5 and get put into high phantom which I assume some are ascendent averaging it out
>>548095683I realized its a bit disingenuous to not include the flat spirit from boundless which is +35 or +60dmg on assasinate so all together its gonna average around +100 dmg on assassinate which is not nothing
sex with sexless !
>>548096385It's relevant info. Laning is still gay and you can barely tell what's going on
>Billy gets parried 100 times in lane>still win lane with easeI love clicking Seven's fat head
Geist always has top damage but never feels particularly threatening, it's odd. Like she's never getting kill after kill like a true carry like Infernus or Wraith.
>>548097225>people will defend this melee system1 minute in and the lane is entirely decided by this stupid minigame
>>548097225SEVENBROS OUR RESPONSE? surely there are some sevenbros leftoh...
people will follow a streamers or a """"pros"""" but when the game actually releases, some kid out of the womb will win a million dollars and be better than the weirdos you swear figured out the game.
>>548097351i'll defend it because it's fun, especially if the alternative is removing the parry so you can replace it with guns but with 0.5m range and you don't have to aim
>>548097351I think it's fine when I'm not the one suffering>>548097361It's rough out there for Seven right now. He actually had top damage this match though (I proceeded to buy knock down and buggered him)
>>548097317In any game with healing you have to account for stad padding and she tends to have a lot of meaningless damage
>>548097351
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!he has to make up for the nerfs somehow
>>548097906According to my statlocker I have like 60 games with 10+ parries and 30 games with 20+I'm very good at the minigame I just dont like it
>>548097773the fact you can parry creeps is really funnyi really should try to abuse that to bait people who don't know about it
>>548098029I dont think creep or guardian parries refresh the cooldown
>>548097837>stad paddingFug :DD
>>548097552Yeah im not sure what the alternative could be but surely they could do something. They wont though
>>548098164they do (i used it to my advantage a grand total of 1 time) (also i just checked it and it works with both the guardian and the creeps)
>>548097317that's because the most popular build is pure spirit which is pure garbage
>>548098381
>>548098719use this forbidden knowledge to your advantage and if you succeed make sure to post the funny clip here
>>548097317What kind of builds are you seeing? I seldom get or see Geist with top damage unless it's a spirit bomb build. And my problem with that playstyle is that it IS so unimpactful and all that damage is almost worthless. So you just put puke everywhere with your mortar and get an inflated damage number. However, I usually am among the top killers on the team running gun because you can be quite lethal at close range >>548098164It does. It's quite funny because you can parry almost infinitely if a melee creep is on you
>all the passive skills are for gun or hpWhere's the spirit damage passive Yoshi.
These leakers are so insufferable lmaoAnd the worst part theyre desperately trying to massage public opinion so they can "influence" the dev team to change shit
>>548099495If I was valve I'd just purge the entire tester thing and get new ones, that is if it's not them gauging public opinion with leaks on purpose
>>548099489mina ult O_o?
>>548099489mina passive triggers on her spirit damage as well
>>548099684The fact that theres this autistic nonsesne of them paying artists to draw the leaks means that its not intentional from valve
>>548083172sounds liek complete ass, but i WAS thinking about a hero with the ability to basically turn friendly fire on for the enemy heroes
>>548099684We had a good thing with hero labs for all of about a month before it was abandoned. Fucking thing didn't get an update for 2 months and all of a sudden got changes but then the player count was at it's worst ontop of all of fuckery with it's playtime scheduling.
I started playing viscous, and I literally cannot stop winning, is he op?
>>548083172Me when I mind control you in lane phase and walk you into your own now hostile walker.
>>548100419If youre good with goo punch then yes he is
>>548100419Your time will come
>>548100419eventually the game will start stacking the enemy team with 3+ gun carries to murk your ass/farm your teammates.
>>548099117>that K/Dwhat is this smurfing?
>Viscous goo punch>Long range>Not a lot of damage>Can be dodged>Can be parried>Billy Bash Down>Point Blank>Tons of damage>Can't Miss>Tons of debuffs>Can't be parried
>be lash>enemy team has dynamo, mina, mirage, wraithok so like is my ult useless now
>>548101678>goo punch>full heavy melee damage that doesn’t stun you if parried>bashdown>60% of heavy melee damage
>>548101821caw
>>548101678>can't misssomeone never played billy, that shit misses all the time
>>548099117>instantly kills the calicofair!
InhouseQC2YBQC2YBQC2YB
>>548103021>already 8/12
>>548097773What fucking rank is this that a Geist can just run around farming that many kills?
>>548099495this shit wasn't an issue before >6 new herosand I don't know where they came from, my theory is they pay for their information from someone who came to them.
>>548094324pls respond, how have you adjusted to the new mechanic?
>>548103797Just dont push the lane at all so it comes to a safer point
>>548099774there's clearly some nominal efforts to discourage leaksmy guess is that they'd prefer people didn't but don't care enough to stop itthey really should just kick everyone out and get a new, more carefully curated group
>>548095893qrd
>>548103851>intentionally not pushing the lane towards the enemy base
>>548094324just don't hit the creeps when they are too far away tard
>>548101847and?>>548102152lollmaonot if you're right in front of them which you will always be
so many people abandoning recently
>spectated a live match where one team fumbled a 50k lead, mid, and then had their patron backdoored while they did mid againlel
>>548104557Almost every game is a stomp if you fall behind might as well
>>548104781nah I've had multiple abandons in totally winnable games today
>>548099495why is every leaker a total shit?>we're gonna leak Rem or Graves abilities! >VOTE NOW FOR WHICH ONE>also we're only leaking 2 Rem abilities because reasons lol
>>548105409Leakers don't leak out of good will they leak for the sake of attention and possibly money. So they drip feed it to make it last and to drive up interactions.
>>548101678things that are different are differentplease like, comment and subscribe
>>548076258haha man this sucks, they need to fire whoever they hired for art designevery new design and re-design has been really shit compared to the original pivot to occult noir after the neon prime phase
>>548101678>ability that requires you to get closer grants more reward for doing so
>>548106094didn't the original ivy artist hate the hyper cute redesign?there has to be a young 20s woman on the art team somewhere important>tumblr nose victor>tumblr sexyman doorman>everything about paigethe new designs have been really uninspired if you know what in-group they're derivative of
>>548106613You mean uglycoal?
>>548076703I quite literally parry light melees all the time; Billy's just goes through parry
>>548103021QC2YBQC2YBQC2YB4/12, 100% organic inhouse
we need a blacklist of discord users so we can kick them from all thread inhouses
>>548107065That's like 99% of the thread.>thread inhouseswhich ones lmao
unreleased dota heroesCorpse Mother: Grave Grapple, Life Link, Soul Swell and True LoveEngineer: Gravity Mine, Lay Siege, Remote Control, Shield Wall, Siege Toggle Mode and Tesla CoilFairy: Flight, Revive, Sleep Dust and SpinFighter Monk: Backflip, Bull Stance, Charge Combo, Crane Stance, Damage Block, Dash, Disengage, Mantis Stance, Meditate, Roundhouse, Spirit Ball and VacuumGunslinger: Empowered Rounds, Fan the Hammer, Hail of Bullets, Hot Feet, Reload, Stick Em Up and TrickshotGrendel: Absorb, AoE Slow, Health Armor and PewHaunted Armor: (No abilities found as of now)Hoplite: Aspect, Aspect Acumen, Aspect Dexterity, Aspect Passive, Aspect Passive Acumen, Aspect Passive Dexterity, Aspect Passive Power, Aspect Power, Bull Rush, Moving Cover, Obliterate and Shield ThrowMachinist: Explosive Bolts, Hex Device, Mechanical Minotaur and Wax WingsMouse/Rat King: Bazooka, Bola, Bolt Storm, Caltrops, Cancel Tunnel, Clockwerk Bomb, Decoy, Detach Grappling Hook, Nitro Flask, Scamper, Takedown, Toxic Bolt (Deleted), Tunnel and WhipPeddler: Equip Crossbow, Equip Wand, Rummage and WanderlustSea Mystic: Big Fish, Bubble, Liquid Courage, Soothing Moisture, Wave and WhirpoolShadow Wraith: Dust Devil, Phantom, Phantom Cancel, Simmerstone Blades, Snake Venom Blades, Wall of Sand, Cruel Edge (Deleted) and Enshroud (Deleted)Time Mage: (No abilities as of now)Toad: Battle Croack, Hop, Hop Launch, Slime and TongueVampire: Aggressive Thralls, Command Thralls, Enthrall, Mesmerize, Passive Thralls, Scent of Blood, Take Wing, Take Wing Cancel, Thrall Entomb, Vamp Out, Vampire's Embrace, Vampiric Rage and VampirismViking: Blitz, Peerless, Stunning Strike and UnbreakableWinddancer: Escape, Gale Force, Tornado and Wind BombZephyrus: Cascade, Notus Breath, Skirons Gale and Wind Shear
>>548107065>t. doesn’t join inhouses
>>548107761Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the leather club is two blocks down.
>>548106613Yeah their new designs are vomit inducing. Paige is okay though. Necromancer and this guy look like tumblr faggotry
>>548099117wtf is that Calico mod?
>>548106613>young 20stumblr was a long time ago, probably early 30s now
>>548107989Fuck you
>>548108435Hey, fuck you, leather man
Anyone else get a bonner from that Viscous death scream? You know the one...
>>548108913no just lash's
>>548108913NoBut speaking of death screams. Are they just bugged half the time or are a bunch of them placeholders? I swear I hear male/female grunts for the opposing gender deaths.
>>548108913I find the one where he goes "aw c'mon..." funny
>>548107989icefrog moved on to dota 3 and will just take those ideas with him
>>548108913this?https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockAugust22025/Audio/viscous_pain_death_04.mp3or this one?https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Games/Deadlock/DeadlockAugust22025/Audio/viscous_pain_death_10.mp3for me it's both
>>548109458The first one.
INHOUSE9/12QC2YB QC2YB QC2YB
>>548107761>multiple heroes that would have had cool summons >shit canned for multiple variations of pixar broolerthe nu-dota team is so soulless
>the discord cabal is real
>>548108913if they looked like this with some questionable body proportions maybe
>>548109458damn...i kinda get it
>>548109620SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>548109564hard for it to be a cabal when 90% of the people are already in there
>>548109246>mfw the goo puppet i've been remotely controlling from off the pacific coast just got nuked by a gt arrow and i have to make a new one (AGAIN)
>>548109723post the link then
>>548109564>>548109723>>548109872VERY organic and NOT coordinated posts
>>548109723its a clique of like 3 dudes who wait on two other dudes to start games and when bored just shit up the thread with their mod posts
>>548109947not a cabal memberI want a link so I can sit in and screenshot everything they've ever said and post it in the thread
>>548110450kD45cun6 here you go man
I got somethin' for ya!
>>548110678HERE COMES THE BARREL
So from what I understand these leakcucks arent even real playtesters but pay playtesters to leak shit to them
>>548111003yes
does Venator still have the heal or was that what was replaced with the damage reduction thing? also holy fuck I feel like I've been waiting for this guy for half a year now
>>548111003that is so embarrassing, holy shit.the things people do for clout for a game with sub 20k players.
>>548111662hustle culture has people geared to turn every little thing into a monetization opportunityshit's retarded
Think the vampire society is taking notice?
>play chief prepping bull>Either I whiff easy as fuck shots the entire game or keep sniping people from gorillon of miles with arrows all the timeCan I get one normal Talon game, kek
>>548111761I mean if some obsessed retard paid me for a couple badly cropped screenshots that took 0.5 seconds to take I'd do it too.
>>548111456Yeah he lost that abilityGot replaced with a bear trap
>>548111984the person being paid to leak is just a guythe weirdos are the ones paying for leaks and building a community to drip feed towouldn't be surprised if they started a patreon to paywall their leaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiL7ItFZG9APick a character from Super Monday Night Combat to bring into Deadlock.
>>548097906light melee is literally unreactable after you take into account valve netcode meaning you need to parry before you actually see the swing come out thoughesp billy who has an even faster one, you just have to fucking hard read this shit and if you guess wrong he gets free headshots and then several free melees
>>548112105is it better than GT's weak ass trap?
>>548112259lmaoahh, late 2000s esports culture. what a relic
>>548112503It was actually pretty tongue-in-cheek, I loved the vibe of the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSufV6JnD_A
>>548112259This game was more fun than deadlock. Where did valve go wrong
>>548094648people are mistaking the nature of the aggression, yes they were more active but it was due to third party ganks, not inherent aggression from a standard lane, outside of these ganks very little risk was being taken in lane
>>548111891probably of her ass and pussy
>>548112105Wish he kept the heal, wanted to play a priest character with a paladin-like playstyle.
>>548114992weapon master monster hunter is cooler
so venator is just The Punisher? Why does he just seem so close to Warden?
Warden is simply broken. There’s no way around it.
>>548115216Warden uses magic to kill monsters, Venator is a priest that shoots monsters to death
>>548115216they're both against magic bullshitvenator is a wagie and warden is occult ted kaczynskiI think their character's are plenty different. I want character's that are opposed to the magic in a magic setting, it's coolhope we get one of the human supremacists at some point
Warden is an alchemist cuck.Venator is pure operator kino.
I want to know what's the deal with Christ in Deadlock universe.
>>548115216he's more like anti-mage
So where to people go to watch 'pro level' Deadlock? Its on Youtube or something?
>>548117029deadlock night shiftthey do a tourny every wednesday for about 20 weeks now
>naturally high damage gun you make faster with items>naturally high fire rate run you increase bullet damage with itemswhich is better?
Why do new accounts get better teammates vs accounts with 1000 games?
>>548116503I wonder if they'll make Venator a realistic priest and give him an ability where he makes Pocket drink sacramental wine and then fucks his ass, and then the Pope covers it up and Venator shows up in Valorant in six months
>>548117029It's basically only nightshift and it's a tourney for basically no money. Match quality is about as bad as matchmaking with stomps every game. Deadlock is so fried
>>548117029game isn't out yet the pro level is basically nothing
>>548117976>main asc 1 (was phantom 3)>alt asc 4climbing in the main acc is so much harder idk why
>>548118960elo systems typically have a confidence value the lower the confidence, the more your rank will fluctuate. the higher the confidence, the less it'll fluctuatebasically once you're set at a rank you have to truly grind to climb and you won't fall unless you get a concussion or something
>>548118960>>alt asc 4you aren't playing in asc 4 games on that alt. you're playing in low elo games while your account is pretending to be at asc.
>>548119352So you're basically punished for playing too much and/or trying new stuff or just plain bad luck, what an abhorrent fucking system.
>>548119648>low elo games>matched with eternuses and familiar names from the leaderboarduhh sure buddy
>>548119740idk about punished if you tank your mmr then you get to stomp noobs for a long time
>>548071854This being in the OP makes more sense than the fake and outdated track lock sites and outdated guides
>peak performance yesterday, 2-3rd best player in each game>3/10 in every game today, worst/second worst playerfuuuuck
Why is Valve so deathly afraid of nerfing the blatantly broken characters?
>>548120993wait it's probably because the normal people are doing thanksgiving stuff so the only people playing today are freaksthat will be my cope
>>548121418>paradox nerfed>pocket nerfed>Mina nerfed>Holliday nerfed>Seven hard nerfed and dogshit>Vyper was busted on release and was nerfed so hard that they only got back to c tier this patch>Dynamo was considered mandatory for "pro" games a year ago and then was nerfed into oblivion>Billy and Victor keep sliding up and down the powerscale each patch>every single Ivy build has been nerfed into oblivion because she keeps randomly becoming OPInfernus is the only hero to be consistently a pain in the ass because his passive is more forgiving than love bites and does more damage on top of that. Plus he's tanky. Plus he's mobile. Plus he has a big fuck you team fight ult.His passive should be turned into a temporary buff like what Seven has.
How it FEELS to uninstall Deadlock
>>548122128>mina has a lot of damage and mobility but only has two stamina>holliday has a lot of damage and mobility but only has two stamina>infernus has a lot of damage and mobility but has three staminakneecap him, and kelvin while we're at it
>>548122437>implying two stamina offsets how broken Mina and infernus areI also wouldn't exactly say Holliday is THAT busted.
>>548122278see you again in two more weeks
>>548080139>>548082245Is this bait?
What Deadlock heroes celebrate Thanksgiving?
>>548122970Holliday, it's in her name.
>>548121418They do nerf them but the problem is that1) It's often not enough2) When it is enough, it doesn't actually fix the issue, the problem is still there and just waiting for a new opportunity to rear its ugly head in.Infernus is still too strong in lane, farms insanely fasts, scales disgustingly fucking hard, has built in escape tools, can very efficiently use all 3 types of items, great in teamfights, 1v1s, pushing, etc.Something has to give, it doesn't matter if you nerf his performance in one or two of these if you don't address that he has all those other things too because it's just a matter of time until he does.>>548122581Holliday is not even close to that level, and has gotten handicapped extremely hard several times with her abilities being reworked and skill points rebalanced.
>>548122970The Lash is a very festive person and enjoys cooking with his mother and aunts
>>548123101he cooks the best thoughbecause he's the lash
>>548122970Grey Talon (I don’t understand thanksgiving)
>>548076258>twitter tag in bottom rightyeah not real
>>548122970big Fairfax family dinner where everyone jokes the whole time about Arin>Where's Arin? Didn't you send him an invite?>Yeah, I *shot* him an invite (laughter)
>>548124804it's a drawing because they're afraid a real screenshot will get their source exposed
after playing seven for so many games, I find the most reliable build lies in focusing on ult and ballHe’s too squishy and low damaging otherwise to make use of his stun and surge. Echo shard stun is still pretty decent though, but having bigger AOE damage/debuffs help teamfights more
>>548125342buy knockdown and melee items and bend people over with your two guaranteed heavies
>>548125104fuckin yikes
>>548122278I been playing marvel rivals. Even when I play terribly (which is often) I dont even get mad unlike deadlock. Valve is a shit dev company now
>>548125591casual games are less engaging so players don't get as invested in resultsdeadlock is miles better than rivals but it's a competitive game so it's more frustratingrivals is dogshit desu senpai
>>548125435that would be funny with investing in balls and torment pulse too
>>548125730Explain to me what exactly is competitive about every game being a 50k soul stomp completely decided by lanes or even worse, draft
>>548125730Hero Shooters are competitive games so your post makes no sense
>>548125929it's a competitive game>b-but my made up criteriadon't act like a chimp
>>548125970It's a competitive game with none of the finished touches or balance that makes it worth playing
>Vyper>Most souls>Most building damage>Most kills>LEAST player damagehow?
>>548126216assassins can have lower player damage because all of their fighting results in quick kills instead of sustained brools where enemies heal up
>>548126216Vypers damage bugs out a lot. Check the actual graph. It can still be low, but check it anyway.
>>548087570Make it like a Legion Commander's Duel except that both players are forced to melee.
>>548126818that's just mo ult but more likely to get yourself killed
>>548104327>intentionally not pushing the lane towards the enemy basePeople do it all the time when they wait for their lane partner to resurrect so they don't lose out of the shared souls
>>548074934>Patch is so bad it needs constant changesCan we get "Yoshi is now fired" for the next patch?
>>548115216Venator is Punisher and Warden is Batman
>>548126818>fencer ults an abrams / billy>instantly diesHe better have some horseshit up his sleeve for that to work
this patch sucks harder than Yoshi at a gay bar
Venator and Warden definitely do overlap conceptually but I think that has more to do with Warden being undercooked than anything else. Venator seems to be focused on non-magical weapons while Warden uses magic to fight magic>>548127283first time?
>>548080723>standardswhat standards?what exactly screams '40's occult noir' to you about anything they've done since August?
>>548126216Damage out is an irrelevant stat for pisslow retards to dickmeasure with. congrats you farmed 50k damage when it would have been half that if you could fucking aim.
>>548128292>if you kill the enemy, they win
>>548126818take them to a 1v1 arena
Just make a hero that turn the floor into lava for 12 seconds.
>>548128864you joke but it has potential
>>548128864I like this idea a lot actually. Could be pulsing damage that ramps up the cools off and does that like 3 times throughout the entire lane or something
>>548128709if only we had some sort of way to directly measure the number of kills players got during a match
>>548128864That was spirit Ivy half a year ago
>>548128864yeah, and then he could dash forward while turning the floor into lava for some disengage
>>548128864I want a Hero that takes controls of builds like Ragnaros. Deadlock needs more out of left field hero ideas like HOTShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEGmJXmavB0
i have 350+ games of pocketi dont want to play any other character
>>548129721Based gender neutral player
>>548128864make a hero that turns the floor bouncy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bEZQ00OOxY
I want a character that turns his lane into his territory and granting him buffs when he's in it or someshit. Just thinking of stuff that would make me seethe immensely if I had to play against it.
>>548128864i miss my 12 second silence character.
>hero even sweatier than YamatoFENCER CHADS FUCKING WON
>>548130318>trapper had the coolest and most unbalanced kit>also he had a hyper nigger slaughterer shotgun so everyone in the hero labs just built gun and he got shelvedI miss Slork and Trapper like you wouldn't believe.
>>548099117>>548097773Post build pls.
>>548130428>every new hero except vebator will be as "complex" as doorman
How about making a rikimaru for deadlock?
>>548130619Marvel rivals have already started doing that, and the side effect is that the newer heroes are all so interesting to play while all older heroes feel one dimensioned and boring as fuck.
>>548130685that's just Haze with focus lense. Do you not get enough Haze players on your matches somehow?
>>548130428how has Valve not just nuked the Secret Playtest Sever with this many fucking leaks coming out every week?
>>548130685Trapper Silence is Riki Cloud>>548130318Drifter has Blink StrikeRaven has the Blinding / Hit Behind them gimmick
>>5480774282/12 as vindicta is legit some low sub human IQ shit even more so in this patch
>>548130228A hero who can turn a group of creeps into one giga creep (think the Tank from L4D). Lasts until the giga creep dies. It has huge damage and melts objectives if there's no enemies nearby for him to agro on.
>>548130228I want tunnel rat like this who is bonus underground
>>548130685Slork is still WIP
>>548130228That's a little like what Calico was originally supposed to be
>>548130428All these changes sounds like dogshit before fixing the economyAll those 50k leads games that end at 25 minutes? now the enemy has to go back 3 times to end it making every single shitty stomp a 35 minute grindfucking valve is so stupid
>>548130849desu the issue with Rivals is that the base movement of that game is just assDeadlock has enough compounding systems like items, the movement, etc. to make even simple heroes fun
>>548131018>>548131021sounds cool>>548131209yeah I know that's why I posted a cat.
>>548130493>most people build gunI really only ever bought headhunter and spirit shredder on him when my spirit and greens slots were maxed. His gun had a super weird spread pattern on top of having pocket's -15% spirit vuln so actually trying to 1v1 people wasn't worth it. I definitely got a lot more value out of building on his web traps and then using his ult to nuke someone by shotgunning the spiders into people.
might be AI, might not. Who knows anymore.
>>548131314Except that the complicated heroes also can have the same benefits you just listed, items, movement, etc.
>>548129291>damage doesn't matter at all>oh but last hits matter of coursecome on now anon. did you get damagemogged and are salty about it?
>>548131528Yeah but heroes like Geist, Haze, and Abrams are still fun even opposed to a hare like Doorman
>>548130849I understand what you mean but also I see like 1 doorman for every 200 mo and krill or miku. People still like the older heroes.>>548131510Every single game I had in the labs were trappers building full gun.
Is blood tribute actually all that worth it on McGinnis? I'm trying to play around different fire rate items and just can't find the right one.
5FVX7'house
>>548132229Erm no
>>548132157>>548132176Autistic people need not apply.And you need to be a special kind of autistic to keep playing this game in its incomplete state.
>>548132070>go 20 - 4 - 8 as abrams >still get less damage than the enemy teams lady geist and pocket just spamming their aoe bullshit Player damage isn't everything.
>>548132226if there's nothing to warrant debuff remover/counterspell then grab it>movespeed>fire rate>enough debuff res to fuck over people's cc combo timings
>>548132229Q6T23 here is the actual inhouse sexless made a party by accident like a fucking retard
if i fucking join the inhouse and theres already 8 people and the game starts in 10 minutes instead of 2 hours im gonna fucking lose it you pieces of fucking shit TROONCORD FUCKS MAKING THE GAME ALIVE
>>548132504there are 7 slots right now
Why not just do inhouse 6stacks to play against randos...
>>548131524extremely doubtful that this is AI, the whole reason the AI leaks are like 144p is because you can easily tell inconsistencies by looking at iteverything makes sense here. the pattern on the hat is the same as the shirt, the number of fingers on each hand fits, etc.
>>548132229>>548132339good job here
>>548131524He looks sovlful desu
>creeps now heal even more oh sweet so if you are not playing a hyper carry you will have to deal with even longer retarded shit aww shit thx
>>5481325621) meta is shit2) we do
>>548131524I might play this actually
>>548131524What we thinking deadtards?[ ] Cutesy Viscous-style voice[ ] Out of place grumpy German old man voice[ ] Just bird squawks
>>548131524>its realOh fuck...
>>548133060squawks like phoenix
>>548131524Why do we hate this hero again?
>>548133339yuumi/io ptsd
How does this game feel just as shitty if not worse with every change, it's still nothing but a snowball stompfest. Whose idea was assfaggots where every single character hits as hard as a carry with any sort of advantage?
>>548133031No every in house code are custom games.
>>548131524People WILL make porn of this hero
>>548133060I hope he sounds similar to Haze. Bonus points if he has the same "Yeah!" voiceline.
>>548133060Animal Crossing voice
>>548133598Oh fuck I wonder if hes related to HazeLike the bird is an old ass sleep demon that knows the origins of the sandman
>REM is just a sleepy nigga>New York wont shut the fuck up>his wish?>make the "City that Never Sleeps" take a nap for onceKINOKINOOOOOOOOOOOO
We should have a schizo character that see everything differently to everybody else
>>548134385A hero that escaped the insane asylum still in a straitjacket thats one big Lovecraft referenceIMAGINE
>>548133060Crow from MST3K
>>548131524looking at this made me think how overly complicated/overdesigned Yuumi is visually
>>548133708would be kino
wtf I didnt know inhouses were based
>>548134385that's just my reality
>>548134812League chinkified itself too muchIts held back a bit but I can alway see the point where they get too overdesigned like looking at a Mihomo or gacha character
is there a voice actor for Rem yet?
Okay what the fuck December might actually be the big one
I want Rem to have a voice that sounds like Nat King Cole.
Okay, leakfag, now post Silver and Seven's updated model/art.
GIVE ME PEPPER AND GRAVES YOU FUCKS
>>548134913they fucking aren'tnow post the part where the thirsty fucks were talking about eating out xer bussu
>>548133031No you fucking dont you retarded discord freak
>>548134936they literally changed Caitlyn's race kek
>>548135056>big onethis patch was big too with all the heroes and yet the game still has huge fundamental problems that are never addressed
>>548135468Isnt that because of Arcane
>>548135643it's because of the "china = big money" strategy that their founders learned at USC business school
>>548135468>>548135643haven't played league but saw arcaneisn't caitlyn an aggressively british bong in the showwhat was she before?
>>548134503kinoforum post. NOW
>>548136259No she's Korean now, she was a bitchy Brit originallyWhat makes the change even more nonsensical is that she looked actually lesbian before while this asian version doesnt at all
>>548134385This alternate world should also have extra paths through walls only he can walk through. Maybe even a tunnel into midboss.
I feel like Rem's entire joke is that he just woke up as the ritual started and joined in so that it can stop and he can go back to bed lmao
>>548136701kys
Valve needs to add a hero with a rat motif to this game.
>>548136701Would be cool if he was also like a extradimensional entity like the doorman but just wants to take a lil nap. Lil god of sleep.
>>548132070You're like those retards who try to talk shit on me being 0-4 on a support but pretend like they don't see my 25 assists. Unironic seeker behavior.
>>548136784Twitchimport his entire kitwe already have runnans hurricane in the form of split shot
>>548136784agreed
Am I correct in thinking Vindicta's role is mostly to make enemies fuck off and tenderizing them for your teammates? I think she works better as a floating turret than as an assassin. I tried souping up her ult to turn it into an AWP but it just doesn't get there. Meanwhile with a gun/spirit hybrid build in end up with a bunch of assists (not usually many kills because, again, everyone fucks off when they're low health and hear the scope sound) and winning more games.
>>548136791make him the foil to viscousa clueless, naive entity who is disgustingly evilhis wish is for all of humanity to sleep forever
>>548136826you get assists just for being near an enemy death so yeah you're right I'm not impressed
NEED 1 FOR INHOUSEQ6T23Q6T23Q6T23
report and ignore all discordhouse posters
>>548137891No one cares about those retards anymoreSomeone actually posting screenshots of the game just dabbed on all of them
>>548138032>grifter tries making a community to turn into pay piggies>random guy instantly shuts down their tranny witch coven by pressing print screenmy king
>>548133390It's a real mystery isnt it? They made a shooter game where shooting doesnt matter just how much money you got from laning or farming autistically. Feels very bad. I have told them like 5 times I want more interesting actives so that if youre fed you still have to use them precisely you dont just auto win due to having 30% more hp AND damage
>>548138586mobas are rooted in RTS which is a genre primarily about economic advantageif that's not for you the game isn't for you
>>548138647Economic advantage is fine, but the way they scale is not good. It's too overwhelming. How shitty do you have to be to lose a 1v1 to someone with like 10k souls below you? It's impossible. THere's no baiting out or dodging an active item they just are stronger than you in every way. Stat based scaling in a shooter will always feel bad. It should give you extra tools not make you a giga nigga
Depressing desuhttps://youtu.be/xZe2QbL3hLA
>>548139001Wrong linkThis one isnt processed yethttps://youtu.be/KwMC9op9i8c
>>548139168don't forget to post a link to the discord!
>>548138150many are saying this
>>548138860Speak for yourself. Plenty of room to outplay if you aren't playing ivy or some shit.
548139312 is a liar
>>548137672I don't need validation from initiate 2 players.
Inhouse and discord faggots (same people) fuck off
>>548133060Italian Plumber
>>548097520weird fetish
No one stands between me and my destiny.
stinky - a gaseous hero that floats around the map making smelly poisonous smoke clouds
>>548141668This game needs a hero!
>>548141668fart boy genius pocket.
>>548131524Fake and gayI can't believe people fall for this
>>548142162t. retard
>>548142208Go back to deviantart and take your cringe furry OC with you
>>548142268ya cope
>>548142268nta implying Valve itself is not a den of furries
>>548142162I'm going to clap and cry if valve doesn't add that retarded rat to the game but I have a feeling they will
shame theres no results screen for custom games. I wanted to see how well I did
>>548142910bro you're supposed to post that in the discord
>>548125591>>548125730What in the heck are you guys talking about? I've played multiple hero shooters and MR is by far the most aggravating, not because of the game, the people there are more unhinged. Even in Deadlock you get the funnymen more often than not.
>>548143241I got kicked out of the discord after they found out I'm a legal adult and not interested in HRT
>>548142910>people bitch when the lobby code is posted and call it spam>people bitch when the results are posted, call it spam so people stopped doing itI'm starting to think u niggas simply don't like the game
are these soul and banner creep changes here to stay? because now im getting worried, since they were tweaking the healing orb
is there any hero not centered around gun viable this patch?fuck me i hate it, i dont want to play gun
>>548144284What are you talking about bro? It's not a gun meta. It's spirit. Because you buy spirit items to make holding m1 on someone from 20 meters better than everything else.
>>548144284yes, retard.
>>548144359thats what i said, i dont want to play gunmight skip this patch
>>548133060Grumpy german, something akin to bed time story narrators.
>>548144284Yea any of them you buy focus lens on, so anyone you want to play + focus lens. I've been stomping games on Calico, Vyper, Paradox, and Lash and I don't play gunnigger builds.
>>548144723post a calico build
>>548144783I literally use the the skelly spirit assassin one, but I have enough games on her I know what I want per game so I end up skipping some early items(back stabber) on certain games. I buy focus lens before Arctic if I need to be able to burst people.
>>548144968>skelly spirit assassin>lifestrike rush in lanethe fuck, this build is trash
>>548145138I go melee life steal, spirit strike, cold front, then lifestrike or enchanters depending on what I need.
What about a character that change size dynamically based on kills / death?He can change size between 0.5x - 1.5xEvery kill make him 0.1x bigger, and death makes him 0.1x smaller.It also affect his resist & damage.So the larger he is, the lesser resist he has, but more damage.The smaller he is, the more resist he has, also move faster, but don't has extra damage bonus.
>>548143448Marvel rivals matches are over in less than 10 mins my dude. You arent taken as a hostage for half an hour or more by one mentally ill guy. Marvel rivals also has avoids, something deadlock lacks.
>>548145282snowball/feast-or-famine characters are a bad idea. the game has enough problems without doubling down on that aspect
>>548145519We already saw how that ended up with Drifter too, even with all the buffs he's just a worse m1 carry.
>>548145282>He can change size between 0.5x - 1.5xI kinda want an Alice in Wonderland rep, the novel is very appropriate for the time period.
>>548145519We already have multiple FoF heroes
>>548146360yeah but things like MnK's +50hp and Mina's extra bats are not as ridiculously central to their character as Chogath style biggification
>>548146459>chogath losing his hp/size stacks on deathname a worse feel
Uhhh... Valve?
>>548146825it clearly went through you what's the issue
average Victor main
>>548146987all I need to see to know that that movie is shit
>>548147280filtered by death stranding, I take it? the movie was alright, one of del toro's weaker movies tbqh
>>548146987do I max 3 or 1 on victortell me in no more than four words
>>548146894Eh, I'm probably pushing it, yea but I didn't know the hitbox is so generous. The ss taken is pretty shitty so drifer would have been a little bit more to the right when the arrow hit
>calico's entire gimmick is a shitton of spirit burst in close quarters >pocket is uniquely vulnerable to this because of negative spirit resist>but has an invuln and escape to survive the burst if pocket plays correctly, with a DOT ult because calico sucks at prolonged combatdamn, just like the lore...
>>548145138initiate coded post
How do I play Yamato now?Do you still run the spirit heavy build?
who's ready for lil sleepy
>>5481473781>3>2>4
>>548148192He... He looks like me.. He's built like me... I... thank you
>>548147986The current cope is green yamato tho I dont really agree with the composition I've seenIf you go green yam then I think you gotta stack some slows with mystic slow and lifestrike
>>548147378I max 1 then 2 before even getting the second upgrade of 3 (the extra DPS) because I like to be annoying and live forever so I can farm more. The extra DPS hurts his survivability just a little bit.>>548148240I would only do this if the enemy comp has few debuffs. If they have a Seven I want that max 2 bad.
balb can we get moar CC type heroes plzzz luv me Mokrill luv me Dynamo
>>548148574honk shooomimimimimi
>>548148256you're a mythical bird creature gremlin? so fvcking cool...
i have played for 300 hoursi have 96 hours on paradox and my next highest is mcginnis at 40I have decided that McGinnis is my favorite character. I have but one qualm. Her ult is kind of useless outside of laning phase and even then it's usually not the deciding factor in if an enemy laner dies or not. I wish her ult would either give a big buff to her turrets for its duration, upgrade them to better ones ala engineer t3, or be a passive that gives some form of stat increases that applies to her turrets.Turrets are a fun mechanic to play around but they aren't really that strong, more annoying than anything. That is all. Thank you for coming to my ted blog talk.
>>548149738Her ult do be useless but you can run unstoppable and use it to cleanse the slow from your ult
>>548149738it should be able to hit objectives 50% farther than default
>>548149738>enemy plays mcginnis>ultimate is hitler artillery>I play mcginnis>does nothing and I die
>echo shart
Nothing can be done at this point.This 2 idiots feed the enemies like crazy, and then the mcginnis then spend the whole match nonstop shitting on Abrams and trying to hog a lane all for himself like he's some kind of carry, but still ended up with 0/9/1 and nothing to show for.What a fucking retard.
>>548151319Lore accurate Warden kneeling on ixian necks.
>>548149738>Her ult is kind of useless outside of laning phaseMax ult and see her ult melt people regardless of how well they farmed.Even better if you have a dynamo or lash that help with putting the enemies in an aoe
>>548148192Now we're on model
>>548151319Bro your antiheal for geist? Your movement slow for warden?
>>548151716STAKING EM
>>548151716yeahi'm gonna fuck that
New Beboptard viral build just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADakM3DqTGw
>>548151716Furfaggot trash
>>548152431erm birds don't have fur
>>548152419Pretty good, even just surge on bomb will help you land kazimkazi much easier
I wanna be a faggot dynamoWhat build do I use to be a faggot dynamo
>>548152801GunNever ult onceNever stomp onceNever heal aura once
>>548152853i'm gonna use this
>>548151912I have no idea what happened in their lane, and I don't care enough to download the replay to see what happened.
>>548146825yamato slash and GT arrows have absurd hitboxes and are effectively impossible to miss
>>548148192>>548151716sex with this thing
>>548153419Yeah the only thing stopping GT from being OP is his mains. Disgusting hero.Also has four stamina for zero reason.
I've had multiple matches in a row with Puddle Punch overtaking express shot. The item truly is dead now.Also learned that if two people hit a sinner at the exact same time they both get a buff. Wow!
>>548152801Full ult build with support actives
>>548135042Moistcritikal
>>548154989Voice acting industry is mega cringe 2bh, like charity but for talentless nepotism babiesGlad its getting killed by a.i.
>>548155105It's a joke retard. Would be hilarious if it happens however.
i hope rem sounds like glep
>>548152242KNIVE'S OUT!
>>548155269shame he was fired
>>548153029>>548152801i was a faggot
Seems the new heroes are pretty ready to drop. When do we hope the votes open? December? Or will they hold out till the new year
>>548155876no wayi'd guess street brawl in dec, new heros late feb
Yoshi and Deathy are the same person>never online at the same time>have the same dogshit takes>knowers mix up their names regularly
>>548155876probably releasing in September 2026
>>548155876>New heroes before going on for holidayIt's obvious you never work a single day.
>>548156080they'd have to not do another artifact kind of reveal after all the hype for hl3 going on
>>548156169You must be European. New americhad meta is early holidays so we avoid the travel congestion and make bonus pay
>>548156312I thought Americans don't have holidays at all?
Where is the loli hero icefrog?dont you want a successfuly gameu?
videogames are difficult
>>548156009Is this the new "Bruno is Icefrog"?
>>548157826>second highest hp in the game second only to mo>"ya im gonna just not buy greens">2 in kit gun stims with free reload on frame>"ya im just not gonna buy oranges"Be honest, did you build ult and then get stunned out of it?
WTF is this gay shit?
>>548131524Made for punting. Will play Lash to bypass his tiny hitbox.
>>548158881looks like you reported too much and they didnt like it
>>548158865Nvm I just seen the dmg+ second lowest assists, you went stomp build and kill stole
>>548148192I'll wait for Big Wakey.
>>548158881do you report everyone every game or something how do you even get report banned
- Medic Pack now heal amounts increased by 2x- Medic Pack heal now splits its value evenly based on the number of nearby heroes (so 1 hero is 100%, 2 heroes is 50%, 3 heroes is 33%, etc. Other nearby units also get the reduced values.)- Medic Pack regen applied over 2s instead of 1s- Medic Pack ally search radius from 30 to 35- Medic Pack pickup range scales after 10 minutes (similar to the expiry duration), from 18m at 10 minutes scaling up by 1m per minute up to 26m range.- Walkers now have escalating health after each one dies. From a constant 12880 to 8000/11000/14000 (model scale slightly smaller for 1st and slightly bigger for last)- Focus Lens: Cooldown increased from 32s to 38s- Focus Lens: Duration reduced from 4.25s to 4s
>>548158881Are you one of those retards that reports everyone on his team that has a subpar performance ?
>>548159450so if your lanemate is eating shit letting them that the whole medic pack is actually viable, interesting
>>548158865>>548159113>buying greens>using ultyou're not playing right
>>548133598haze's little "Yeah!" voiceline is like half the reason i play her, it's immaculate
Is ivy a better carry than warden?>Farms better>Gun is basically equivalent>Built in steroid>Better inter-lane mobility>Free disjoint>Less tanky (base hp+shield)>Can't go 30 m/sI've been playing gun warden and I don't really like the root or the ultimate
>>548158971>>548159759>Report the bad players>No!! Not like that!!Fuck them.I want them to come play in loser queue and see how toxic and asshole the players are.
>>548160102I swear it sounded more like "ye" before
>>548160102when does she say that
>>548159871Green stacking is objectively good
>>548160461it's one of her 3 generic "Yes" voicelines
>>548160461i think the affirmative VC
>>548159113Whenever i play dynamo i build stomp with like 30k invested in spirit before buying a single green item and i always end up with upper half player damage and the most assists. The hero is extremely tanky to begin with and can engage at unfair ranges, and he doesn't really benefit from sustaining in combat since you can dump most of your stomp charges quickly and then be useless anyway. Plus he gains mobility and 600ehp from his maxed heal so he's still survivable
>>548160192You're not supposed to report bad players lil' bro, you're supposed to report smurfs/griefers/cheaters/leavers etc.Believe it or not but someone being shit at the game doesn't mean he's griefing.
>>548160192You aren't supposed to report bad players. The report function is for cheaters and griefers, not for the unskilled. Hopefully valve considers further punishment for you, since report abuse is a form of griefing
>>548160761Seeker moment
>>548158881>>548160192Emotionally stunted manchild with anger issues
>>548160903Stomp isn't a serious build but it's way more fun than playing some gay ass hybrid dynamo
>>548158881>>548160192You got what you deserved faggot.
>>548158881were you just reporting everyone you didn't like for no reason or what?
Guys there's something wrong with my Abrams...
>>548160124gun ivy is not a full-on carry because she's not actually that good at killing people, she wins by being one of if not the most efficient objective clicking rat in the game
The new camera made me realized how fucked up some of Lash's animations are.
>So that's how you spell it.
>>548161326This and weapons not pointing where they're supposed to like Ivy's or Warden's gun triggers me
>>548156009dumbest thing i've read all 2025
>>548161326I still use the old camera
>>548159759Why yes how could you tell?
>>548162126I thought that was a LoLbab thing
>>548162041I was just joshing yoshi/deathy, your takes aren't that bad
>>548163307a good amount of OW(2) and Dota 2 fags will click report
Some of the new characters feel like second drafts of characters we already have.>they've been trying to remake Warden since before the original NDA broke. Venator fills the same niche but with a better fleshed out kit.>someone mentioned an engineer character who can do all the things McGuinnes can do but permanently.>Rem's ability to attach to teammates, buffing them and sharing heals with them, is just a more developed version of Ivy's tether.>Mina's passive is just a more thoughtfully designed Djinn Mark
>>548163307Every single time I watch a russian playing deadlock they are report banned so I just assume it's a russian thing, which is funny because it's mostly due to dogshit matchmaking like putting oracles together with eternus
>>548163871you're reaching pretty far on theseWarden and Venator both have roots and buffs that help them live, but the work they work is very differenttheir other two abilities are completely unrelated
>>548163871>>548164139We don't know any upcoming character abilities
>>548164246we've known Venator's abilities for a loooong time and we just got two of Rem's abilities spoiledfucking tourist
any idea why my game shits itself about 12-18 minutes in every match and i start getting massive frame drops and stuttering? recent trend
>>548164420it only happens to me occasionally, think it's a memory leak
>>548164298Source it
I love when the entire enemy team builds spirit, just so I can build witchmail
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>>548165370lolz :)
>>548164298By "know" you mean "I'm retarded and believe any AI slop I see because I'm desperate to feel like I know something that other people don't".
Remember that if you have a shitter in your game and you still win, don't give him a second chance and report him so you don't get him in your game.I made the mistake of not doing this and the faggot that I carried the first game ended up being too heavy the second game (0/8/2) afk farming gun Paige
>>548131524It's real, the sleeve in his right arm has the typical inconsistencies and deformations done due to unfinished weight painting, an AI image wouldv'e done that without those errors. Same with his hat, it's clipping over the model near the left ears.t. 3D artist
deathball metas are ass because it means all the most cancer heros are meta
>>548166783You'll just end up like this faggot >>548158881Reports are not meant to avoid people. Playing bad isn't an offense. You'll have to wait for the Deadlock + â„¢ subscription (4.99$ /month) to get that option.
>>548167241i feel like there would be less deathballing if there was something to do after the t1s are destroyed but before it's feasible to take t2s.
>>548131524update on december pls volvo.... i don't want to wait
>>548167392I don't care and it literally does work as an avoid function. Every single retard I've reported either he's not in my next game or he's in the opposing team.
>>548166642you can literally play him right now retardselecthero hero_priest
>>548167571>errorme too
Im already so fucking tired of drifter being in every single match
>>548167571>>548168208you will never be him
It's a really bad sign when the Lash is the most farmed person on your team.
So I finally get to the phantom rank and dear lord the afk farming is awful. This isn't fun. At least in archon/emissary people actually play the game and fight, so much of the higher ranks is downtime hitting boxes. Something needs to change about how souls are gained
>>548169525kelvin GODS
>>548169525>lowest deaths>lowest healingCome get your played like a pussy award
>>548170437I have second most damage on my team.
>>548170532Did i stutter? Your health and life is a resource that you didnt use
>team refuses to group>tell them to group>they dont>match lost 10 minutes inWOOO I LOVE DEATHBALL YEAHAHAHAHHA
>>548170934>Surviving is badI can't tell if you are trolling or not.
>>548169525
>>548170951BRO WHY DO YOU WANT THE GAME TO END AT 15-20 MINS THATS LIKE *takes a fat rip from a bong* SO FUCKING LAME AND BORING. I GOTTA TRY MY 78K SOUL BUILD ON MINA
>>548166642you people say this everytime there's a leak.Rem is happening. Venator's kit has been accessable in game for months. Cry and sob and piss your pants
>>548171047Im srs, you aren't pushing the limit of what you can get away with, you are playing too safe
>>548171764acktually ive been nay saying Rem because it makes conversationlooks like its nap time
>>548171764Bobo? Scrapped. Trapper? Scrapped. Wrecker? Scrapped. Raven? Super scrapped.Its only a matter of time bef9re the sleepy labubu and generic beard man get sent to the SCRAPPED yard
>the game is bad because it's a spirit meta>actually the game is bad because it's a gun meta now. Spirit meta was actually good>sorry, it turns out it's a spirit meta still, and I was right the first time spirit is still bad>actually the problem is that it's a deathball metaNext thread you'll be bitching about how it's a splitpushing meta
>>548171964Screenshotting this so I can repost it here when Rem gets added
>>548171793What if I'm more of less aware of my limit? It's not like I never went before 50% health, I was at less than 100 health several times, and I don't mean in lane. I've just gotten better at not picking fights I won't win and leaving when I should. Lash is a hit-and-run hero.
>>548172049as it turns out any game with a "meta" is shit.
>>548158231Bruno IS Icefrog though.
https://youtu.be/a-0E1CeO9ds
>>548172328Im just saying when I get scores like that the next time I push up farther, I take less advantageous fights, invade more, ect.Who knows maybe if you were holding agro deep in enemy base you team would have the space to do something
>>548172501this is why I want street brawl so bad
>>548173643>he doesnt know the street brawl meta
>>548173643You mean the "area control auto wins" gamemode?
>>548173554NTA but..>I push up farther, I take less advantageous fights, invade morelol>Holding agro deep in enemy base>as lashlmaoDon't try and nitpick if you're an alchemist
Imagine if the street brawl update introduces role queue for it since they will have to balance teams and all the heroes (including the new ones) get split into different "roles"imagine normal game queue gets turned into role queue
>>548174332you're getting a random hero and you'll like it
Why does this happen?
>>548171964>calico turretsSCRAPPEDand for fucking good reason those things were fucking aids
>>548173937Say that shit at lan and not online and see wat happens midrank
>>548173000Holy checked
>>548171793i get what you are saying but it's pointless unless you look at his damage absorbed statwhich should really be there below healing or even replacing it, it's far more telling of who's doing shit
>>548071252Bullet resist items are pointless lmao.
>>548176351If you buy bullet resilience and warpstone on dynamo you can get to almost 90%(when below 30% hp with the buff active)
>>548176351metal skin, bullet tes, disarming hex, return fire and weapon shielding have been bottom of the barrel turbo dogshit for months now, i'd say all of them except return fire have been dogshit since the shop rework, and it didn't take long for return fire to get nerfed into the ground
>>548176974Thats why they buffed gun, so people would use those itemsInstead they just bitched about gun meta lol
>>548176921I hat warpstone bullet resilience and plated armor. Gun calico deleted me in 5 seconds. I WAS KRILL
>>548177274I had 0 spirit res and tanked everyone except guns.
>>548177105yeah i remember how no one was using gun doorman last patchgun always had good builds but even against them anti-gun items are a complete waste of souls, were and still arethe only anti-gun items that are good are jugg, phantom strike and warp stone and that's only because they have a good alternative utilityalso i completely forgot about plated armor, which just happens to be the worst T4 in the entire game
>>548177646>also i completely forgot about plated armor, which just happens to be the worst T4 in the entire gameI think its pretty good though?Must buy against Infernus/Haze/Wraith
>>548177646>also i completely forgot about plated armor, which just happens to be the worst T4 in the entire gamewhat are you on bro, plated armor is like the only thing making low elo games vs. 2-3 gun builds palatable
my favorite meme is solo ulting people as dynamo if they have a lot of HP or are able to escape easilyit makes them so fucking mad sometimes
>>548177824>>548177853yeah it's decent on this meta but it's because it's the least bad anti-gun item (even considering the price difference), and even then it's still not great at the job but it's better than nothing
>>548178240I think part of the reason it feels like it does nothing is because gun scales hardest into the late game, intentionally, so the game ends. If you could just buy plated at 30m and hard counter m1 then we would have much longer games, imho
someone tldr the "leaker wars" shit going on
>>548153840>still second damage>still 3X tankbuster damage even with burst includedyeah better stop building it anon, its awful
I dont know who needs to hear this but tankbuster also sucks
i am ascendant 6, 1 below the max rankhow do i still constantly get people who play like lobotomites who had their hands lopped off
>>548178701Nobody knows anything and Deadlock was a social experiment all along
The game snowballs way too hard now with the 4.8k investment spikes and not playing a hero that rapes lane for free every match is just throwingthis meta fucking sucks
>>548178701there is an enchantress style pretty unicorn princess hero, and one of the leakers hates her, but the others love her
big patch coming monday
>shitters still complaining about gun metaSome things never change, lol.
>>548178493i get that but then it always feels like anti-gun items are pointless when gun takes too long to scale then buying the items is pointless because gun either won't be a problem or it'll scale too hard and they won't matterif gun scales faster then the items will be worse earlier and you won't be able to justify buying them to "counter" gun inefficiently for maybe 5 minutes before the TTK grows out of control anywaysi think that the main problem of anti-gun is that dragging out a fight inherently benefits the gun user (which is why return fire was good back then, it punished by firing back), while dragging out a fight against spirit works works out in your favour because cooldowns severely limit their long-term DPS
>>548179567I have no clue why they keep making the game faster. I know most normies want fast games because they can't stand anything that goes past 20 minutes but the entire fun of a DOTA-Like is building up your character over a game and executing on that build. 35 - 40 minutes is the perfect length for that but every change just wants to make the game faster and faster.Isn't that the entire point of Street Brawl? To send people who want short games to another mode?The game just keeps getting worse and worse. It's a damn shame.
>>548179567almost every lane rapist of last patch was neutered thoughbeit>yam>holliday>doorman>parawho are you talking about that you think is too strong of a laner? sinclair? billy? warden?
>>548179924They just nerfed the midboss rewards and buffed all the towers though. How is that making the game faster?
>>548175196I keep getting this retarded shit too
They need to make the bases easy to defend and give the losing team some way to get vision in their jungle
Veil Walker + max level bebop bombs is so much fun. I don't care if it's not optimal this is pure joy.
>>548179736>dragging out a fight benefits gunThat is true and probably pretty close to the core issue. Its almost always better to burst them or cc to escape. Its like a rock paper scissors game except after 25m paper always wins. Idk if there is an easy solution as this seems pretty core to the fundamentals of the whole item and stat systemYou almost would need early impact and scaling variants for each spirit vit and gun and at a bare minimum that's another shop rework, making half the spirit items more like boundless giving % spirit and vice versa, half the gun items give flat+damage
>REEEEE WHY DO I HAVE TO AIM AND MOVE AT THE SAME TIME REEEEE
>>548181202You're seething at an objectively correct redditpost. Gun builds are objectively the easiest way to play the game.
Personally excited for the apparent Mcginnis 2 that is even more defensively inclined. I WILL hold this walker for 30 minutes of half your team pushing it get lost. Hopefully its permanent turret(s) with spirit not being a meme.
>>548181298>gun is easier than slamming your head on the keyboard and hitting your big circle aoeslole
>>548181202He's right. The movespeed creep in this game is insane. It needs to be at the very least halved.
>>548181202that's literally not what he's complaining about thoughhis point is actually valid, gun carries are way too mobile and most of them have get-out-of-jail for free cards on top of it too like nigfernus dash, ivy ult, wraith teleport, mirage tornado and ult, drifter's ult, etc.
>>548181202Rare based r*ddit post.
>>548181424Yes it is, and if we're using your retarded reductionist argument then pressing 1 button is easier than 4. Gun builds require the least skill are the least punishing to use and are now as of this patch the strongest way to play. Gun characters have ALWAYS had the highest pickrate and that still holds true now. People gravitate towards what's strong and what's easy, gun builds are both.
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>>548178701somehow valve let teenagers infiltrate the experimental build and now it leaks like a faucet. alternatively, it is guerrilla marketing (proven by the fact that they act on feedback from leaks)
>>548181202>le bucket system was a mistake
I love killing Pocket because being gay is not okay
>>548181202Rare R*ddit W
>remove active items>buff gun resist stuff, specially the late game onesGame is fixed.
It was my team's fault this time, the proof is in the replay.
>>548183000Visc's build btw15k damage in a 49 minute game with these items
>>548181202fleetfoot is the strongest item in the game and has been since releaseit should be nerfed so that you don't have the full speed while shooting without the active, maybe make an upgraded version that gives it passive
>>548183187Visc players are either 1 v 11 carrying machines or the dumbest gooballs alive. Barely sentient even.
>>548182773no>curses you
>>548183450You VILL bhuy de BOOTS
>>548183450Shooting shouldn't give movement penalty at all and being hit by spells or shot at should reduce move speed imo.
>>548183870>wanting to port this retarded CSnigger feature
*flies past*
they should make the game 12v12, 1 lane, and add a payload
>>548184016Why not? If a 1600 souls item gives such a passive then clearly it's not considered a big deal even if I agree Fleetfoot is an extremely good item as of now. Reducing movement speed when being hit would also be an answer to how slippery heroes get when being chased which is a complain a lot of people have.
>>548131524I hope this is real for 2 reasons1: I like playing weird little guys. I played Tristana in League and Jeff in Rivals.2: Anything for more shortstack porn
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>>548181202You're a nigger who needs the most brainless characters in the game to be impossibly overtuned in order to win games. Gun characters will always have a higher skill foor and lower skill ceiling, because you're pointing and holding M1. This patch has reduced a very fun game into being another cheap dogshit shooter but with 35 minute matches. It isn't fun and now every match is the same.
>>548181202I mentioned this when people were seething about sevens movespeed scaling with spirit, but the issue is all the gun items give a ton of free movespeed so the spastics can kite for free, theres a fundamental issue with what stats are given to items post item shop rework, because so much value is given to investment now items usually give one bonus stat, which means their levers for balance are fucked, compare it to items pre item rework that had 4 to 5 stats that could be adjusted how do you tone down any of these gun items without gutting them?
>>548181202>presumably lash player>And they even gave extra M/S to Bebop. Fuck Bebop.kek
>>548133359>io ptsdWho the hell has ptsd over io? Io is the least offensive hero compared to other stuff like techies, brood, or meepo
>>548148762Naga Siren Ult wew
