Previous: >>548509773>NewsAgent Record | Ye Shunguanghttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/42397862Agent Record | Zhaohttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/42343300Version 2.4 Special Programhttps://youtu.be/hMZVmJ8ZGto>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://youtu.be/e0LoXFGJjSU (EN)https://youtu.be/2NKK6Mg27XI (JP)https://youtu.be/OosW5OpDSB0 (EN)https://youtu.be/-2G_7DNRcFM (JP)https://youtu.be/_Zo_zbHmOpI (EN)https://youtu.be/begsPfi50BY (JP)>Upcoming Events for 2.4https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/161086All-New Program 11/25 - 12/29"En-Nah" Chess Saga 11/25 - 12/29Neo Golden Mecha 11/28 - 12/29Lightstream Notes 12/03 - 12/29Simulated Sequence Showdown 12/08 - 12/29Advanced Bounty: Area Patrol 12/11 - 12/16"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 12/17 - 12/29100% Miss Bunny 12/17 - 12/29Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 12/24 - 12/29>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionZENLESSGIFTZZZ24KRAMPUSDialyn1125>Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friendshttps://interknot-network.com>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
WTFFFFFF DEFEND THIS
HSR wonZZZ lost
1.0 was so comfy.
Its over
So will Banyue join Krampus off-screen or will he get an agent story with his banner?
Why do I get the feeling Da Wei is afraid of firing niggas?
It's time for the Elysia VH
>>548523760more like yenless yone yero LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Breaking news, Hugo Vlad Criminal Mastermind stole all the revenue
>>548523664>>548523760AHAHAHAH
Why did CZN mog us so hard?
>>548523546removing TV remains the biggest mistake they made. they outright threw away their core playerbase and their own vision for the game. who is ZZZ for? what is ZZZ's identity?
HOW TO SAVE ZZZNew WritersMore MalesMore YuriMore ShippingMore NTRNO MORE PAGBAITNO MORE CHINKSLOP
I know what collab can save ZZZ.
>>548523772You wouldnt fire your besties...
>outsells both your waifu this month aloneHeh, nothing personal
>>548523546FUARK WE ARE SO MUCH MORE SOVLFVL THAT POOWAAAAAA
Will you guys be done shitposting by the time my shift is over?
>>548523664>gives her free character level kit>8 days banner>even so, sellskek
>Yenless Yen Zero
>>548523848TV being the garbage it was is what led to the mass player exodus in the first place
2.X is bad and I'm glad it's not making a lot of money. Mihoyo is not even a publicly traded company so there's nothing I could possibly be losing because of this.
>>548523907It's normal to copy more successful games.
>>548523821he was a criminal mastermind, Hugo Vladimir?
I refuse to believe the charts are real and we lost to fucking Chaos AI Nightmare. I refuse.
Dingling goddamn flopped...
>>548523905>>548523827PREPARE TO KNEEL BEFORE ME
>>548523907>combine soul from 3 soulless designsZZZ designers did it again
>>548523848The game having TVs instead of open world is what killed it retard
>>548523940We've been through this, the shitposting doesnt stop until next month and the cycle begins anew
PAGBAITING FLOPPEDENOUGH IS ENOUGH IM TIRED OF PAGGY LIESI SUFFERED ENOUGH, YOU PAGGIES HAVE NO MONEY AND ZZZ PROVED IT
Just a quick reminder that I love ZZZ.I love the characters.I love the story.I love the combat.I love the soundtrack.I love everything about it.I feel nothing but gratitude towards the devs.Day 1 player and never stopping.
>>548524043you forgot your /s
>>548523760OWEN SAMA
i am moving my investments over to CZN
>>548523897>>548523897>>548523897ACTUAL NON-TROLLBAIT THREAD, MOVE HERE
that tof shill and his group still doing these charts all for reddit upvotes has done irreversible damage to the gacha community similar to prydwen tier listsnormies and even fucking seapags indonesian taking literal fake mobile only numbers as absolute truth
>>548523962Go to work instead of shitposting all day!!!! I bet haven't even don't the story yet!!!
I'm supposed to believe this is random?
i just like bibi
>>548524106You don’t even play zzz why pretend otherwise
Seed flopped.Wisewimp got caught as a brown pedophile.
Every single Wisepag on xitter was exposed as being from some SEA country that as a median per capita income of like $100 USD a year of course pandering to them caused us to flop massively
pls stop, i like zzz
>>548523965>>548524043
It's time to admit that Congo cannot sustain this game
Damn, busted.
>>548524017he killed 16 female banners, guy was an interior hollow raider!
>>548524142It's no longer work time. You're the one shitposting instead of working!!!
Guys they’re doomposting us all over reddit this shit will reach normalfags soon and we’ll be losing a lot of morale as people judge this as a dying game
>removed TV>make shitty HSR corridor clone exploration in 2.0>Revenue goes up
>>548524124give it up man
>>548524212>hiSenpai
Komano love!
>>548524305Good. The budget on this flop needs to go back to their actual good games.
Reminder that they removed TVs in 1.2, and 1.2 was Caesar and Burnice and they both fucking flopped. China LOVES Tv gameplay. Removing TV to pander to ADHD-riddled westerners killed the game because the main audience (China) for ZZZ felt like they were second-class citizens.
>>548524367
Finally m6 Komano!
>>548524367Gigameta stunner that powercreeps all previous stunner and is most likely BiS for our upcoming VH did garbage numbers. Shungus isn't going to sell even half of Yixuan is she...
>>548523848It really was, and these mouthbreathing retards will never accept it. Imagine removing the things that make your game unique
>>548524367>>548524543amazing to think this is all Hugo
>>548524245ether manipulation black magic, sick shit!
Sorry ZZZookeks, I guess its time for the funding to go to other games now. We’re sorry that you’ll be put into maintenance mode after your third relaunch
Did they completely abandon Eous mode ?
Banyue being a playable agent makes the whole "will he or will he not sacrifice himself" plotline feel a bit... predetermined? Like there's no way he'll actually die, right?
>>548524503>implying Hoyo gives a flying fuck about complaints outside of CN and JPCN and JP were the ones they heard crying over the TV's and deleted it from the game. Why are TVcucks so retarded?
>>548524503I said back then TV is the only thing that made the game unique the budget isn't high enough for real dungeons so now it's just a HI3 clone
>>548524503People weren't just magically gonna show up again after they removed TV and replaced it with black screen white text. Once we lost the launch crowd that was it.
If TV mode was so good, surely you have all the TV mode related chivos rright?
>all (65) of "machine predictions" spammers posts last thread got nukedhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548509773HOLY FUCKING SHIT hit "CTRL+F deleted" LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HE GOT FUCKING ANNHILATED
It's December bros!
>>548524453S rank Manato would have sold a komillion dollars
>giga powercreep>giga HP inflation>giga shilling for specific 2.X units>still floppingHuh.
>>548524553>Shungus isn't going to sell even half of Yixuan is she...hopefully not. she's a shit character with completely unnatural pandering. plus, what the game really needs is a better story and more gameplay variety, not just some flashy character with a special tag.
>>548524751Funny you said that because 1.0 was the only time where I actually 100% the game world.
>nikke beats genshitIf zzz didn’t have furrybara shit since day 1 it would be doing way bettermixed toilet proving to be a disease yet again, nikke and lads clear genshit and zzz with 2% of the effort, nikke is just jpegs and lads is just rendered pornhonkslop doesn’t count because it’s normalfag auto battle central for indonesians with insane powercreep
i-it's december b-b-bros...
>>548524649Gacha is an inferior story telling medium, everyone recognizes this.
>>548524756You got exposed BTW kekaro
S____ G________ F______
>>548524767They are fools for not capitalizing on the goodest boy.
>>548523269Only the chatbot is AI. The main story is great, far better than ZZZ.>ZZZKey characters are almost never in real danger because they want to sell the gacha.>WWMKey characters are killed off with no hesitation, which gives the story higher stakes.>ZZZEverything is fed directly to the player with every new patch story. Nonstop dialogues mixed with signature black screens.>WWMPlenty of animated cutscenes. Doesn't feel like a visual novel at all. Less talk more action.>ZZZBarely any worldbuilding. We still don't know how many Void Hunters exist besides Miyabi (and soon Shunguang). They rarely give us in-game readables about New Eridu, just Howl's Newspaper which is updated once per patch.>WWMPlenty of important side quests and scattered texts that all feed into the main lore. Translation/language barrier is naturally a problem, but the lore itself s solid.>ZZZ(You)pandering over substance>WWMSubstance first, but (You)pandering is not abandoned.>ZZZTry so hard to pitybait that it turns into tragedyslop.>WWMA tragic story that does not bait you into rolling the gacha, because the gacha is only costume.No matter how you put it, ZZZ got mogged in all fronts.
>>548524553>Character not as hyped as Miyabi>No top ups will be resetWouldn't be surprising if she sold terribly
>>548523962
>>548524862>unironic cuck, doomcuck AND a schizo Can't make this shit up
>>548524918ai generated post lmao
>>548524648And they will do it again
What happens in Yum Cha Sin private rooms?
>>548524761could you make more santa hats for zzz characters
>>548524918TRVKE post
>>548524756this mentally Ill freak really thinks he can single handedly make people stop believing in revenue charts. the term schizo gets thrown around very loosely in this site but this nigger is probably a legit basket case
>Game so good they have to shill it in other threads because nobody caresMakes one ponder
>>548524948But I was early
>>548525050hello mark, i thought you got banned
WWM is too janky.
>>548523546Why start a war?? salty that you lost to us?
>>548525079Seed slopped
2.x could have been good if they fleshed Potential woman, and we developed a relationship with her
Why did ZZZ flop so hard? Shouldn’t we be embarrassed?
For fuck sake, please delay the Idols until 3.0 so they can avoid this shitfest.
>>548525183Formerly Chuck fucked
>>548525204Sorry we can't get actual relationships in here, because every girl somehow needs attention
>>548525075Dude also has a stash of CP and scat on hand, ready to derail any threads.
>>548524971I made a few more, but here, make some for your favourite too
did they know?thats why they maked seed cry for the MEME
Wise is a naughty boy that loves taking a vicious pounding from behind from his daddy
yenless
Couldn't they have at least put a filter on the background so it looks darker??
Yeah that's it, I'm dropping this game for Ananta (an actual anime urban game done right) as soon as it drops
We passed upon the stairsWe spoke of was and whenAlthough I wasn't thereHe said I was his friendWhich came as a surpriseI spoke into his eyesI thought you died aloneA long long time agoOh no, not meWe never lost controlYou're face to faceWith the man who sold the world
>>548525429Please don't say Ananta is pagbait
>>548525317this was also something I could've asked for, used to have the hats from /v/ threads back then but lost the files when making a new computer almost 9 years ago
I quit in 1.3 when I felt the sloppification comingMihoyo deserves this decline and even more
>>548525429Wise could never…
>>548525489its wuwa killer.
>>548525429this is still months away
>>548525429OK fuck me, I'm sold.
>>548525429nice gameplay
>>548525429No... whatever will we do without you, o' raider from a dying general...
>>548524918WWM is an amazing game and one of the best since a while, but it’s not competing with any gacha whatsoever. it’s only cosmetics and it’s way closer to an MMO, it’s like witcher 3 with a social hub. it’s extremely difficult in legend (if no summon etc), playing on mobile must be insanely shit.
>>548525526its been almost a year bwo, what are you doing here
>>548525167not early enough!
>>548525429IM PLAYING THIS GAMEFUCK YOU ZZZIGGERSYOU DONT APPRECIATE ME ENOUGH FOR DEFENDING YOUR ASS GAME
>>548524059holy based
>>548523848The problem is that the devs misinterpreted numbers and listened to the loud minority.>Game launches>First banner has huge sales because Ellen was peak character design and the first limited character>Loud minority of influencers and ADHD gacha elitists starts bitching about TV mode>People start leaving because they realized that the game wasn't for them>Sudden drop in revenue between Ellen's and Zhu Yuan's banner and continues to drop>Core audience begins forming, large exodus of people that began playing it due to marketing and hype (which is completely natural) >Loud minority sees this as a sing of decline and begins moaning louder>Devs start caving in to the loud minority as they're junior devs with no experience of how the launch of these games typically works>Core audience is alienated due to removal of central mechanics>People that bitched that the game isn't something it wasn't supposed to be are validated and continue doomposting>You are here.The devs are incredibly admirable for redoing half of their game from the ground up, but their lack of experience might've caused them to bury their game in the initial stage. Some people praise them for being the only Hoyo team that "listens to their fans," but listening instead of doubling down and calling the loud minority retards is what buried their core fanbase, even if I'm still here.
>>548525489There's still a female MC. (She was still on the badges at the showcases) So it'll be mixed
>>548525601Lmao this is what they’re shilling here?
>>548525601the game isn't about the gameplay retarded hoyopag
>>548525429>>
Do we have any insight on what's happening internally within the ZZZ dev team? No way niggas are getting replaced left and right
>>548525429>police officer treated like a hero by the publicBased and sovlpilled
https://files.catbox.moe/mtfjtm.mp4this is my reaction to ZZZ flopping
>>548525238bald fucking writer is gonna ruin the idols and we can't fucking stop itfuck man
>Mobile revenue>For a game infamous for its performance on mobile
>>548525727>game isn’t about gameplay Keeeeeek
Yidhari is surprisingly forward god I hate the dense MC trope so much
>>548525760According to business reports, they keep shuffling devs around and they took some Genshin devs and moved quite a few of them to us and HSR
>>548525727>game isn't about gameplay
>>548525760no but co-op, if done right, is a step in the right direction so it's not all bad.
>>548525238they're gonna revive the game though
>nip games does better china characters than chink gameskekaroo Huyan Zhuo looks better than all the safe horny slop from Mihomo
>>548525829why is the penis in the porn video not Black
>>548525615Yes, but most people only have one slot for "daily stamina parryslop" which means ZZZ directly competes with WWM. ZZZ is also shit on mobile, as >>548525862 said.
>>548525695Unfortunately you are correct. I still miss TV so much...
Wise loves big white cock, he’s a submissive gay bitch
I like Komano Manato.
Zhu Yuan and Qingyi are a proof that you can have Chinese characters and themes without becoming Chinawank.>>548525960I'm on your side you schizo
>>548525914bro most CCs fucking despises the idols
>>548525903This cant be good...
>>548525887I felt bad for her. Belle showed a scared and disgusted reaction. Poor Yid...
>>548525903I hope this was recent because the game needs the experience of the more senior devs. Especially the writing department, holy hell.
>>548525909You just know they aren’t going to encrypt your IP address so enjoy doxxing yourself to everyone you play with
>>548526047the fuck do i care what those redditors think
>>548526047ccs are faggots and should be quartered and flayed alive then
>>548525903Hopefully it was only adding new ones and not replacing sovlful ZZZ devs...
>ZZZ flopped because wanted to attract the same target audience as wuwa, pagbaiters with hungry for powerfantasy MC, instead of sticking to own vision, hoyo doesn't know how to write MC center storiesIt's better when their games adopt the MC co-protagonist story style to make gacha characters shine like Genshin Impact
Making ZZZ the spiritual successor of HI3 was a mistake. Arena battler in 2025?
>>548525880>>548525908I forgot I'm dealing with dumb fuck hoyobrains. Let me rephrase that: the main draw of ananta isn't the combat.
>>548525627I masturbate to Ellen twice a week minimum still
>>548525829
>ZZZ will soon get HI3 level salesLMAOOOOOOO
>>548525429I would like my gachas to actually work on my phone, not be some giant ass ue open world slop that I need to boot pc for. Not picking up another after zzz.
>>548526257Well it's a HI3-lite
>>548525887>>548526062She absolutely schlicked it while thinking of that moment when she got home.
>>548526182ZZZ started MC pandering early on in 1.X>MC co-protagonistBelle players started seething and chimping out because they were FORCED to play Wise to save their chosen MC
>>548526078I got max rank on bangboo tft and I'm still alive. when do I get mega doxhacked?
>>548526257ZZZ is HI3 part 3.
Wise is a sissy male that lets men stroke him off
>>548525695i don't get why they had to completely remove TV modelike okay it wasn't popular but it was still part of the core proxy dynamic so removing it would take away the identity of the main charactersthey could have left it in AND allowed the current exploration shit at the same time
Seed did this
Cutehari Murphy
>>548525909There's going to be some issue with co-op, it isn't even implemented yet in the beta and they only have a month left to do that and test it to make sure it works
anyone know where I can find mods that puts yixuan's paid skin over her default
they're going to introduce Elysia in ZZZ to save it..... Its over.............................
>>548526426I would stroke and suck him off for sure
>>548526182>>ZZZ flopped because wanted to attract the same target audience as wuwaIf you think ZZZ released with powerfantasy MC you're on drugs the FDA doesn't know of yet.
eve
>>548526546Belle…
>ZZZ gets black screen white text descriptions of light flirting that never goes beyond light flirting>Meanwhile SnowbreakWhy aren't pags just playing this instead
This thread has been knotted by HuGOD
>>548526380Not enough yuri for that.
>>548526526Bro we're in decline and you want to scam Dawei??
well this thread sure looks lively. did something good happen
>>548526547That's not what the frogtard was implying though.It didn't launch like this, but it suffered early launch pains and loud complaints, and the inexperienced devs or maybe some Mihoyo higher up interpreted this as a reason to implement MC wank to save the game, hence the cultivation shit
>>548526635>Hi3>YuriLol, lmao even
>>548526627HuGOD >>>>> Lycaon
>>548526182>>548526347You're both fucking retarded. Since when is the MC getting the same amount of pandering as Rover? in that game its retarded how strong the MC is, you can have what's probably the most overpowered character in the entire lore bringing down her sword like a guillotine torwards Rover and he stops it with one hand while saving a girl with the other, its completely fucking stupid and made for solo leveling fans. In ZZZ the protagonist gets knocked out by Komano's pecs, in what world are they pandering to the same crowd as that game? Wise and Belle talk with the playable characters a lot and that's a very nice quality to have but its not pandering
>>548526652Your mother stroked my big white cock
>play Nikke>get your semen extracted by robot succubus and have a daughter with the main heroine>play Zenless flop zero>gets spooked by a bdsm bara wolf>spend multiple patches walking around with a bara dog>slam your head against his huge chestYeah, this shit game pleases no one.
>>548526641you can't scam a gacha developer any more than they can scam you
>>548526479someday they will learn
>>548525887Oh so Yidhari's def a tentacle raping woman
How do you, a waifu character in a waifu game, lose to males
>>548526829We have an unwritten rule and we dont do official skin mods (unless you pay someone in tg ofc)
FAT FUCK
>>548526910Hugo was really fucking cool. Who the hell likes AI generated characters like Lucia and Yidhari
bros, everyone is making fun of me on 4chan, r*ddit and tw*tter, I'll log off for today, I really don't understand why they all band together as if zzz is the devil incarnate, the only negative comments are about zzz
This is the second patch in a row where they add a whole new area we can't actually explore, what the fuck bro?
can we get rid of the faggot spamming ai pics of the writer? that guy is fucked in the head
I wanted to say Mihoyo hired too many incompetent women, but Zhenyu Li and K are both men.
>>548526624>HagSkip
>>548526717>pandering needs to be through an overpowered MCPlayable agents still flirt and crush on your chosen MC in ZZZ, whether they're overpowered or not means fuck all
I'm tired of losing bros...
>>548526949oh right, tg, why didn't I think to look there before
>>548527007its just for fun and giggles, I love zenless and still make comments cuz its funny
>>548527052Most of the gacha leads and writers are men. Can't blame women for all your problems
>>548526547zzz started with the mcs working behind the scenes in the story, suddenly everything changed drastically to mc jerk off, logically feeling that abrupt change felt uncomfortable for some players because wise and belle are only nerds
I want them to flesh out Banyue and Ye's relationship. It could have really kino father/daughter vibes that we don't see enough of.
we will get em next time
Guys the future doesn’t look bright… everyone is doomposting even Teiba
>>548527026Exploration right now is underbaked as fuck and pretty boring, its better if they don't release more maps to explore until they actually get their shit together>>548527110Yeah because the proxy is actually talented at talking and empathizing with the agents, it makes complete sense and isn't forced, if you play the fucking game you'll realize instantly that even, say, Seed's close friends didn't understand her feeling the way the proxy did, I treat both Wise and Belle as actual characters
>>548527234They should flesh out Banyue's kit first instead of releasing him as a literal DoA brick
There are numbers below zero...
>>548527234Too NTR coded. Your idea is rejected.
>mash attack to build stacks >hold special to spend stacks Highest effort most shilled unit of the year btw
Bros, I'm excited for Banyue!
>>548527192Yes I can, I’ll go to china and troon out, then I’ll get hired by hoyo and make the writing dogshit! In the end it means women made things worse.
>>548527234Wouldn't that just make her SEED 2?
>>548527276>Yeah because the proxy is actually talented at talking and empathizing with the agents, it makes complete sense and isn't forced, if you play the fucking game you'll realize instantly that even, say, Seed's close friends didn't understand her feeling the way the proxy did, I treat both Wise and Belle as actual charactersAnd how is any of what you said contradicting what I said? ZZZ has pandering towards your chosen mc
>>548527345How many agents does that call out?
everybody want to doompost, but don't nobody wants to spend their entire check in the game
>>548527401I skipped through Seed's story mission so I wouldn't know.
>>548527234There's nothing there and the fact that you could have 50 Banyue's and Shunguang would 1 shot all of them in one go, would make the father-daughter relationship shit in this particular setting
>>548527472Everyone hates doompost, but nobody wants to spend their money in the game*
>>548527472I'm not shelling out for hula hoop phon or dudes.Go back and make Dialyn Monokuma for real.
>>548527234there's no relationship nigga. they just asspulled him being her teacher because they decided they wanted her in 2.4 at the last minute.
>>548527472I’d rather get raped by Ellen Joe than let some chink gacha steal hundreds or thousands from me!
man, I gotta start playing some western games again, all I play is genshin and ZZZ and during christmas time theres 0 festivities, it really brings the comfiness level down
>>548524143It isn't random
>>548525429KINO
>>548526624>snowpeakProof that revenue doesn't matter
>>548527036its funny. and the writer is a faggot so he deserves ithow are we complaining about him and not the machine saars retard
sup guys I just arrived and saw our sales post on reddit... guys what do we make of it
Fufu save us.
>>548526949I don't really care man, they haven't shot the school uniform ellen mods off the face of the earth so I'm gonna get the other skins for free too
>>548527718aispammersis..
>>548526624If only the gameplay and gameplay loop wasn't so shit
>>548527472This is an inter-knot membership only type game. BP isn't useful enough to care about.
>>548527472speak for yourself, my burnice is m6 and i will m6 the idols too
Maybe I would spend on new characters if they had events to actually use your characters instead of DOGSHIT BANGBOO BABY MINIGAMES FUCK YOU
My wives
>>548527435Shunguang is still one of the most simplistic agents in the game, 1.x tier in terms of mechanics but with enough iframes to never have to interact with enemies and free stun multipliers so you don't even have to care about stun windows or resource management
>>548525887I hate it because I am it desu
>>548523965Mass exodus after 1.4, when TVs were removed?
>>548527313The floppening is all SEED's fault
>>548527843same
>>548525429Why can't ZZZ have fun open world activities like this?
>>548523546That Nikke design in the middle is the only good design thereBring back Waterkuma
>>548527875Ye Comfy
>>548527968zhao could dunk better
>>548527875>i-frames
>>548527472I dont doompost at all but I havent spent money on ZZZ and gotten the 5* characters I wanted or their 5* w-engines with zero fuss
>>548527345>Yixuan 2.0Well. Shit.
So it's safe to say 1.0 plot was better than 2.0?
>>548527036Fuck off redditor
>>548528141no
>>548526717That's the point: why involve the MC so much when they can be knocked out by Komano's pecs? Realize that a low-profile setup would have given the MC a more impressive look than a scene that seems straight out of an NTR doujinshi because wise is a nerd
>>548528141yes 1.0 had sovl
>>548526624>snowjeets shitposting We can't be that bad right? That game has a different drama every week and it's models and Gameplay are literally koikatsu tier
My big white cock is so huge and hard, won’t a fellow anon stroke me? Let me imagine you’re Zhao as you do it.
>>5485281411.0 had potential. 2.0 is a dead end.
ZZZ was niche by design by they got greedy with the “mihoyo” brand and reached for the non existent broader audience. Bring back panty shots and proxy work. Pre-release zzz was the peak
>>548528141Everything in 1.X was enjoyable, but 2.X is more of a hit or miss
>>548528313>trust me bro game i never played was good
>>548528141It's not even close.
>Who can save ZZZHIMHe wrote HSR's Amphoreus /Penaconny and did a lame copy-paste of his HI3 characters.But it worked and HSR made 200 million on mobile alone with 2 characters
>>5485281411.x didn't have too much of a plot but it was extremely high effort and soulful. but now we're stuck in china with slop characters and a shit plot
>>548528224Please stop, big white cock anon...
>>548527669It's Seedmas in my heart
>>548528389Ah I see you count Hugo Vivian arc as 2.x
>>548528250It's just a filler arc that also retroactively turned 1.x into a filler arc because the exaltists turned out to be a complete nothingburger
>>548528206That scene was clearly pandering for the belle femcel players like in genshin when xiao princess carries you and seeing everyone only talks about Wise means the game is a directionless failure
>>548528313Anby got her thongs removed that shouldve got you thinking
Wife
>handled the behind-the-screen MC guiding a team of powerful beings dynamic betterThey really didn't need to have us undergo wuxia slop to be more "involved".
>>548528141fucking obviously?
>>548527413I don't see it as pandering since its organic, I think the only time I've viewed it as a bit corny was when the Proxy saved Yidhari. On all other dialogues where they were "pandering" to me it was actually just organic dialogue that was telling it like it is, the agents surround themselves with fucking assholes due to their line of work, when someone that's upbeat, fun and is capable of empathizing to a degree that the agents aren't even aware of it makes complete sense that they're fond of them>>548528206Because the MC actually talks and has thoughts like a human being unlike Rover which feels more like a walking deviantart OC. Play through Chisa's quest in wuwa then come back to ZZZ and play through Seed's quest or Sanby's quest, look at how different the treatment and behaviour of the main character is in both of these games
Void hunter will save the sales because every Hoyo game is just a huge wankfest for meta slaves. But that's a huge issue for Hoyo game to be so predictable for as when you'll get meta picks.Archons in Genshin are allowed to be shit and irrelevant, no one will bat an eye because you can't play Venti anymore.But Zzz is in deep shit because you can't nerf ice units too much or Miyabi will be unplayable and people don't want that. They shouldn't have set Miyabi as a precedent, because all ZZZ players will constantly only spend money for void hunters.
>>548528490Take this big cock you slutty rabbit! And I don’t wanna hear another word until you’re pregnant.
>6 more months of ChinawankHelp.
>>548526624>if this was in zzz everyone would think it's based>but it isn't so it's jeetshitI hate tribalism.
>IF A HOYO GAME DOESNT MAKE ATLEAST TWO BILLION A MONTH THE CCP PUTS EVERYONE IN TEH GOOLAGS
>>548528534Vivian was the start of the sad backstory trend, it works fine for the first time but everytime after?
>>548524059TROOKACOLA
>>548526819>get your semen extracted by robot succubusIn the middle of chapter 42 currently, chapter 41 was so good and Im not talking about the commander (you) part
>>548528728>>if this was in zzz everyone would think it's basedonly browns would
>>548528724Weren't we pivoting back to urban after 2.5?
>>548528616capeshit, wuxiaslop 2 sides of the same coin, when are we getting a 19th century russian literature inspired agent
Why is Rokudo's back so fucking WIDE? She has a man's figure. Her thighs also look too thick.
>>548528616The cream on top is they made Wise venture into the hollows to do nothing anyway
>>548528141Game peaked at Belobog kino
>>548528920But all our agents are already sad?
I am going to save ZZZ and catapult it back to the top of all charts.
EVERYONE is saving for HER
>>548528934All I want is chiatsu, keep the other nobodies to yourself
>>548528952Press R herePress F therebwos...
>>548529003i'm not tho
>>548525601Yeah the combat looks great!
>>548528616That visual novel tier "game" took 7 years to make anon. Gacha is on a bit tighter schedule.
>>548528995if we all get a small loan of a million dollars we could be number 1
>>548528827The last four chapters were all great I binged them in one nightStory mode was the best thing they added in that game
>>548529003I'm not. I need 30 more rolls for Vivian swimsuit and I'm 100% doing those.
>>548525601Lmao the trailer looked so cool but yeah this is shit
>>548528616It's just proof that ricecels aren't human and are incapable of perceiving any story more complex than basic bitch isekai or power fantasies. They'd probably call Dispatch an NTR game or such
>>548528685>Archons in Genshin are allowed to be shit and irrelevantHuh? Every archon releases at T0, Venti required everything after him to be given CC resistance or immunity and Zhongli releasing in an underwhelming state nearly killed the game
>>548529148>he cut the vidya just before the animations repeat
>>548528934Easier target for my backshots
>>548528417Literal hardest worker at Mihoyo. Our bald retard writer could never.
>>548529148holy shit it really is just PS4 Spiderman lmao
Are there no sites that show the PC/Console revenue?
>>548528313>pre-release>still had tvslopshit taste, pre--production zzz was the one
Wise and Belle should never have left the bangboo seat
>>548525601Skibidi toilet faction???
>>548528973BELOBOG WAS PEAK KINO
>>548529148Kino
>>548529360Genshin started out as Breath of the Wild clone. Clearly copying a popular game is a good formula.
>>548528616But please understand, the SEAniggers can't self insert to a character if that character isn't Sung jinwoo
>>548526257Well considering the combat is even more braindead than HI3 which is already a toddlers version of DMC is only natural
>>548529214where is this from and where can i get more
>>548528141I actually like 2.0 plot more.1.0 was a bunch of unrelated stories and resolution was very random with siblings getting super powers out of nowhere and Mibobi being pushed for no reason.2.0 has a central plot.
>>548528616He is got involve when he got his robots suit back dumbass this just like ZZZ 2.X
>>548529423EVEN IF CORRUPTED OUR BELOBOG MACHINERY WILL NEVER GIVE IN!!
Big white cock is so tasty….
>>548528616>the love interests aren't virgins>one has a boyfriend when you meet her evenChinks, gooks and SEAchurls would self combust
>>548529370>Are there no sites that show the PC/Console revenue?no but every CN game in the meme chart has its revenue multiplied by 3, so just assume it includes PC revenue
>>548523664they just need to release more aislop characters like seed and luciai'm sure THAT will save the game!
>>548529003>EVERYONE is saving for HERAnd because of that everyone will get her for free from skipping so many banners, so her banner will also flop. Only her skin sales can save her
no one cares about revenue anyways
>>548528141>So it's safe to say 1.0 plot was better than 2.0?No1.x was boring as shit.We were basically doing side quests instead of the main plotAt least we are actually searching our teacher in 2.x
Victoria Housekeeping was miles better, Belobog was boring slop, only salvaged by Ben and Anton being absolute bros>Oh my bangboo>Oh my dad that left to buy some milkYawn
>>548529928Used goods, don’t be a cuck
>>548523664>wujeets lost to two ancient powercrept Genshin rerunsso much for that generic high school girl canon wife huh
This outfit is so damn ugly. I hate looking at it. Belle's a great design and you do this
>>548530096Grace being a non-character didn't help
>>548530057Sure, but our reputation as a community as a game is RUINED
>>548530057I too enjoy recycled events and unvoiced story missions.
>>548530057its just a good way to agendapost
>>548530158That's why i'm in beach mode always.
>>548530158Both of the wuxia outfits are retarded looking.
>>548530158Both sibling's original outfits are way better2.0 was a mistake. No one wanted this.
>>548530158CHING CHONG NIP NONG
>>548530096Victoria is the only faction without forced pityslop so it's automatically the best one.
>meme aged like milklook whos laughing now
>>548530158i actually dont mind this one, Wise's is ten times worse
Belle said bing chilling…..
>>548528657rover is the core concept designed to be the world-building element of Wuthering Waves, unlike ZZZ. The journey of the immortal lone wolf Chinese character, is basically the foundation and everything else stems from that. It's exaggerated but unorthodox and it works for them (antihoyo public).ZZZ was also unique and effective because its two core characters, Wise and Belle, were distinct. They could be distinguished by their different approaches and personalities, unlike Rover/Traveller/Trailblazer, which is why they had a low profile at the beginning, making them more interesting but what we have now is a shift in vision, chasing trends and it doesn't work. Players realize that each story in the park is inconsistent and seems written by someone with a different vision for Wise/Belle
>>548530167She's very much of a character. She's just an autist who doesn't care about YOU specifically.
>>548530158Her picture is hot though
>>548530158No, you see, you MUST consume china wank
So you really have to pull for Dailyn of you want YSG?Damn.
>>548523546
What's next for zzz after 2.6?
>>548530368we won so hard
>>548529003Im not. My full m2 jane + alice + yuzuha should clap any physical stage and I’ve gotten a kill with them in every phys weak deadly assault. I should still at least get 20k in the forseeable future even with uber anomaly cucking.And in the event that they dont then this game truly is fucked
>>548530586End of service
>Everyone collectively is shitting on ZZZ everywhere (Reddit 4chan Twitter) But why? Reddit especially loves Mihomo games and made multiple changes to the chart just to make sure a Hoyo game is always in Top 5 Why ZZZ is now hated?
Are we moving to Honkai nexuus anima?
>Make VH intentionally broken>Metafags all just skip and save for VH to get them for free and overall profits suffer What do you call this market strategy?
Every day I thank Christ I'm not retardedenough to pay money on shart fail
>>548530586Massive decline. The biggest issue will be how many people will come back for 2.5 and 2.6.
>>548530660Lack of vision/directionIn trying to appeal to everyone the game now appeals to no one
>>548530528You mkae fun of Yurifags, but if had access to their free labor by pandering to them, zzz would be making more money just from social media exposure
>>548530487They will change it once they realize no one is going to roll Dialyn.
>>548530381Yeah wise is terrible. But man I can't stand the cone shaped design on Belle's. Reminds me of soldier 11's terrible "uniform" almost
Bunny wife!Happy life!
>>548530158It makes me want to eat her ass and jerk myself off with her thighs
>>5485305862.7
>>548530807kek
Miyabi it's the reason this game is failing. To be honest YX was about to save this game but they keep removing her from the story.
>>548530682>Hoyo slopNever. They got me with ZZZ but never again touching their soulless slops
>>548530586idols and S rank billy
>>548523664OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>548530778Decillions have said this
>>548530660Lack of vision. "DEV LISTEN!!!" is out in for force right now with ZZZ. The declining revenue supports how desperate the devs are right now.
Miyabi loves BWC, stupid fucking whore!
>>548530807>meebs is a smartass
>>548530158>her cultivation went so poorly she turned into a fucking traffic cone
SHAOJI, SAVE ZZZ!!
>>548529625https://x.com/corvui_/status/1995493072348844090
Zootopia collab when
>>548530586Last patch of 2.x will be someone from NEPS (probably Jane) asking for our help to go undercover and investigate some TOPS shit that will set up the area and conflict for 3.x
>>548530764Seeing their outrage will never not be funny>ship based on nothing pre-character release >characters release and they turn out to be for the MC >ship/yurifags lose their shit >repeat
how to fix zzz:turn tv mode into a top-down pixel style game where you play as eous and recruit agents instead of slowly moving across different tvs on the screen/boardthere is so much story telling potential with this, it would also fit into the game's urban-retro settinggo back to urban setting with urban themed characters and unique character designsgo back to slice of life "proxy business" story instead of sad chinkwank sobstory slopoptional co op in all gameplay modes except shiyu defenseco op eventsremove hb bloat combat gameplay, or at least make it optional stuff you do for no rewards to test out your characters and skillreplace arcade games with bangboo multiplayer minigames like boo kart racing and fall boos
Fucking Tailless while Miyabi stares autistically in support
>>548530973Is this the guy who always posts about wanting to be Chinatsu and get raped by 100 dudes?
>>548531057>characters release and they turn out to be for the MChow is that going for the game sir
>>548530368she's the potential woman because she unlocks her potential twice and is the best non VH dps in the game
How many relaunches do you need before you start making money?
>>548530586Y's public execution on stream in front of a giant Mao portrait.
>>548523881B-b-but I was told China HATES furries by the pagjeet shill!
>>548530941yeah, she has to be retarded to love that when there are bunch of BBC's around
>>548530158Here's them all compared. Someone can get Wise's if they want
how to fix zzz: JUGGLING BABY LETS PUT JUGGLING BACK ON THE MENU!!!
>>548531124Wish I cared. I'll enjoy the game for as long as I find it enjoyable and stop when it I don't
>>548531159Chairman Xi approves
>>548530368>soon to be t0 statusI KNEEL SANBYGODS
https://youtube.com/shorts/0YA3DIFLZCkIt's so fucking over...
>>548523881The people demand Zhao in a police outfit kneeling on people's necks
>>548530586We will become full furry fetish game and be renamed to fff.
Return to exploring hollows and making full use of the proxies skillset and fairy. Expeditions into dangerous hollows or maybe even the dark wall. Could make a whole new gameplay mode with that wall. City drama and conspiracies should not be the focus until they actually have something good cooked up. Cultists are lame.
>>548531218Putting on the ears is cheating. They look really dumb. Use the sunglasses.
>>548531182Big banyue cock? He’s an asexual robot, she needs a white cock to be happy.
>>548531156Just give Shaoji a blank check and tell him to do whatever he wants.
>>548531218Gosh how I wish I was ntr'ed by Belle...
>>548531113no, thats me
>>548530057>no one cares about revenue anywaysI care because revenue is what the devs require to actually continue to update the game with new characters, story and content. Loss of revenue means loss in quality at best (worse, less creative character designs, less voice acting, worse story presentation because they'll have less money to spend on high quality cutscenes, etc.) reduction in the amount of content we get (less events per patch, less updates or total ceccesation of updates on certain content)Saying "I don't care about how much money the live service game I play makes" is the most retarded cope ever. You SHOULD care if you actually care about this game becaus the amount of money the game makes directly translates into the overall quality of the game and quantity of content. You are saying you don't care as a coping mechanism for the current failing state of the game. You are burying your head in the sand and denying reality, and you'll do so until it's too late.
I'm sorry
>>548531218OG clears no diffSwimsuit would be better without the dumb hat
>>548531218If Belle was a futa in game we would be saved
>>548531161Because ZZZ is doing it wrong. You can tell the dev are too scared to make furries.
>>548531125mod link?
Who are we blaming for thisI would be fine if it was just a regular low revenue month but specifically being right below the cuck game is unacceptable
With revenue this pathethic hoyo will soon start really cutting the budget, expect 7-8 weeks between patches, less events and overall lower general quality after 2.6, i will be shocked if this doesnt eos before 4.0
>>548531310This. We need to RETVRN to tradition.
The writers just can't write endearing or memorable characters for shit anymore.
>>548531431They've still yet to add a way to even support it beyond rolling Zhao dupes
>>5485305862.6 is the idols patch correct? if they flopped there won't be 4.0 the game will eos after 3.x or Mihoyo would do something drastic like removing the gacha
>>548531382fuck you nigger i like her hat
>>548531329>Just give Shaoji a blank check and tell him to do whatever he wants.I don't understand why we can't remove the bucket hat. They already let us customize headwear (like with the cat ears or the stupid panda head), so the tech is there. But they just won't let us do it with the swimsuit's hat. Like it's objectively a great design if you take off the hat and completely fucking ruined by the fact that we CAN'T take it off.
>>548531543tranny you've been seething about the writer for weeks take your meds. it's not his fault you're illiterate
>>548530807Okay okay I'm pulling in [Thousand fold steel banner], Hoshimi Miyabi!!!
>>548530396I agree that the writing got worse in Failume heights for sure, the developers themselves have said so, I just don't understand the "the story is bad because of pandering" argument when we've gotten exactly 0 powerups or additional abilities for the proxy canonically that matter since 2.0 despite the fact that we only became Yi xuan's disciples due to the fact that she might be able to reveal some of Phaeton's ocular abilities, so far she has done fucking nothing regarding that, all she does is swoop in to beat the monthly exaltist retard then she fucks off and nothing happens. If "pandering" means screentime for Phaeton then they should absolutely pander more because that's pretty much who I'm playing the story for, interacting with Fufu and the other cute characters is fine but in the main story its the Proxy that I want to see being developed not anyone else, the "co-protagonist" shit that HSR and genshin does is fucking awful, genshin also dropped that entirely in Nod krai and people are regarding it as the best story GI has ever had since your protagonist is actually talking, having thoughts and doing things for once in their fucking existence in the story instead of relying on Paimon for everything
>>548531125is this her real ass or modded implants?
>>548531370>You SHOULD care if you actually care about this game becaus the amount of money the game makes directly translates into the overall quality of the game and quantity of content.Yeah rewarding scummy business practices really worked out well with HSR didn't itSometimes just letting a game die is better for everyone
>>548525429honestly yeahthis and roco kingdom is all i needi think i'm just done with gacha games that will always have shitty stories and gameplay because they literally cannot function without all the pandering and the drama that followsi think this one will be a hit just like gta online of it has optional multiplayermany people would love to play an open world anime gta where they can just play as cute anime girls and dress them up and do shit together in an urban sandbox
>>548531734If you have to ask, it's modded
>what killed ZZZ was the over exposure of two MCs who weren't cut out to take the lead on stage because both look ridiculous every time they're involved.>the shillers will deny itbut DEVLISTENED!! ZZZ bald dev with peak storie!!
>>548531370why do people who use this image always say retarded shit?
>>548531734What do you think ?
Come play Wizard101, a REAL game that actually makes money
>>548531793Shame real anby has a small butt
No idols, no saving. Simple as.>but the id-I know, too late tho, faggots. Die, DIE. Glad I quit.
>>548530158Trash opinion Belle looks great in all her outfits
*SIIIIIIIIIIIIP*
>>548523664>below 10Mlolso that’s why the OP is that butthurt comparison image
you faggots are unbearable
>>548531906Me when i see an ass that isn't a black culture 3000 model
>>548530586The Organization arc and we get playable rain
>>548526624>garbage game with little to no quality that's barely making any rev and forgotten. zzz bros...
I miss the Miyabi Era
>>548523546>Picking a fight with Wuwa after losing to it
>>548529148why is it so fucking slow
>>548526624>her POV out of nowhereman whyd you have to trigger my agp
>>548531621he's literally right, the writing in this game sucks fucking dick. literal normalfags on reddit are saying it. the revenue chart is shitting itself. what are you trying to gain from hopecoping
supercute & supercanon <3
>>548531813It's the same guy every time.
>>548532067>Implying they even remember that letter
>>548528920There's like 15 of them in reverse 1999
>>548532029i love you koleda
>>548532140>Only one sword>Only one ult
>>548525887I dont get it, whats wrong here?
>>548532259doomsissy... don't you have ai pics of the writer to spam
seed is cute deal with it pagfurry
>>548532201Wuwa really does seem like your typical isekai harem, now that I've seen more of it.
>>548526624People that think NuHoyo is big on pandering are probably kids that don’t play any other game Yet every patch some third worlder happily posts some shitty out of context dialog like it’s the greatest love confession on earth
>>548532378dogshit ye chingchongknow your place
>>548532378Miyabi's sword has memoriesYou? None.
>>548531614I can toggle it anytime plus give her a thong with mods.
How many more fusions will the Boogeyman go through?I think Wisepaghorsefurry might not roll off the tongue well.
>>548531796
>>548532201>1.30 minute long cutsceneZZZ for this??
>>548532554huh? wisepag and horseking are the same guy? but isn't horseking a cuck
>>548532453Lighter, Flopped, Hugo flopped, Wormano was made an A-rank, Banyue will flop, cope and dilate tranny
>>548532642It's all the same as far as I can tellFiller for low quality shitposting
>>548531998Belle looks great despite her one outfit.
actually limited s rank big daddy will save this game
>>548532741Her EN voice is also surprisingly good. Glad it wasn't recasted
>>548532489>1 soulful high quality niponese sword vs 9001 soulless chink swords bought from temu who would win
>>548532629Nah, We have gameplay.The gameplay in question: Bangboo minigames
>>548532378Less is more.I fucking hate the wuxia sword surfing aesthetic. Looks dumb as shit
You can thank Dialyn btw for making Wortmerfags kill themselves.
>>548532446>MC actual doing something >typical isekai harem
>>548532014tea sip training
>>548525695>even if I'm still here.Same, I still check out here and follow the story/new characters, but I stopped playing the game itself around Vivian patch because once the announced total tv death since 2.0 I knew this wasn't the game for me anymore.
>>548532968Miyaboo is hotter
>>548527472I’ve already bought all the top up bonuses. They’re simply not worth it without the first time bonus. But that’s still probably more than 95% of players
>>548532378FEAR NOT THE HUNTER WHO PRACTICED ONE THOUSAND STABS ONCEFEAR THE HUNTER WHO PRACTICED ONE STAB ONE THOUSAND TIMESBottom Text
>>548532963Well of course he's doing something. Most Isekai Harems have the mc doing something. Also Wuwa fits Isekai stuff way more than china wank
i dropped the game because i hate miyabi, i hate miyabis design, and i hate how important she is both to the meta, story, and community. fuck i hate this bitch.
>>548527472Why would I spend money on gachaslop? I'd rather be a full f2p leech and make it EOS faster.
>>548532378>no autismyou fucking lost
It's not about the raw numbers.It's the downward trend that keeps getting worse even when you thought you made the safe bet of making the robot character an autistic pilot girl and give her four trailers to boot. This hurts your confidence, invite executive interference, and generates negativity with in some of your more vocal fans.
>>548529003if I wanted wuxiaslop I wouldnt be playing ZZZ.
Explain the hype around Shaoji.I've played Star Rail until 2.4 and Penacony, to me, only proved him as a hack.
>>548533405WuxiaGODS are playing WWM. ZZZ has literally nothing to offer them.
Don't worry, co-op will save the game.
>>548525601jesus fucking christ
>>548533478ayyyyyyyy
>>548533342if executive interference results in us never getting a character like Sneed i welcome it
>>548532201Fuark imagine having a cool badass MC that can go toe to toe with agents in combat...
>>548533478>copy rio>uglify herHow can you manage to fumble this bad?
It's okay to lose every once in a while...
>>548533485No one likes shaoji. Guy is just an untalented parasite. Even HSRcucks hate him.
>>548533485lol i quit around penacony too because it was such a trash story
>>548533478mark you should take a break, get some water
>>548533648They like his gf Elysia though
>>548533485Amphoreus is the best gacha story ever made unironically
*BONG BONG BONG*NI HAO /xixixi/!!! Glad this game is still pulling in STAGGERING revenue numbers. Almost 10 million?! China themes really got players excited and invested, hope we see more in 3.0!
>>548533646>Once in a whileZZZ lost 2025 to Wuwa
>>548533648>80M in Shart Rail this month>9M in ZZZkek
>>548533621it's seriously impressive that wuwa can get away with so much slop and lack of content and still keep up with zzz. I blame this on zzz being very mobile unfriendly.
>>548533795ZZZ lost to CZN lol
tell me anon why ZZZ flopped??
>>548533898seed
>>548533898because the good ideas get reflected off the shiny bald head of the lead writer
>>548533828and candy crush does billionssales=/quality niggerThe only reason hsr does so good is its low maintenance and plays well on mobile.
>>548533898
>>548533898Seed killed the hype.
>>548533342fuck off aispammer. you using ai to make fun of this guy is just gay as fuck
>>548533861>still keep up with zzzWuwa has been beating ZZZ for most of the year. If anything this game needs to stop with the slop.
>>548533342Stay AI God
I miss them bros…
>>548533898Seed!
>>548533898Pirate Seed
>>548534173I use 4 of them on every DA?
>>548533898Devs lack integrity and keep compromising to try for wider appeal (has not worked a single time)
>>548533861Wuwa is consistently doing twice our revenue bro what is this "keep up with zzz" talk
SEED fucking FLOPPED GODDAMMIT
>>548534124zzz slop is barely a blip on the radar compared to wuwa's to be honest. Such lack of content and bad events going on there is staggering. The last two patches have been utter disasters.
Bros, why did they show the lead writer (pic not rel) of the game and have him explain shit? Something tells me that they needed someone to soak up the blame for the negative reception of 2.x...like making a concrete problem, therefore implying a concrete solution to the audience.
>>548534173Our fuarking heroines... and Sanby.
>>548534173its weird how 1.5 was such an easy skip for me but in 1.6 i got both characters and their engines
>>548534293If one of the four isnt Pulchra then you should feel bad
>>548533963>>548534054>>548534060>>548534086>>548534232>>548534283One poster btw
>>548533898ZZZ interns got greedy thinking they were hot shit
>>548534296>try for wider appealI dont think that's even true outside of SeedLike what even was going on with Lucia and Yidhari? What are these?
Its so funny that wuwakeks come to this general to shitpost because they know they can't compete with genshin, the game wuwa was made after and to compete against kekI'll grab my autismo pilot and enjoy the game while you pat your own backs
>>548533898wasting a big chunk of time+money to shill seed when instead of a cool big mech dude we got a footfetish girl while main story focused more on orphie+magus
>first event of the patchminigame>second event of the patchminigamebros when do I get to actually play with the characters I roll for?
Seed goddamn flopped…
>>548534457one retard btw
>>548534568the rest is all me
>>548534429Anby won T0 soon nigger>>548534457nyo
>>548534632But one was me
>market Void Hunters as the absolute most broken agents that will ever exist>they're your go-to DPS agents>people just save up and wait for VH banners and skip all other damage dealers>what the hell why revenue no good?
remember Seed's real name is Flora
>Defense ball in beta got changed to Rupture>Every event ball has a had at least one character come out who was able to use itWhat are the chances they change Zhao's class to Rupture? It would fix literally all of her issues
>>548534339Chisa flopped btw
>>548534457
>>548534523>bros when do I get to actually play with the characters I roll for?thats the funny part
>>548534724Void Slopters don't sell either
>>548534696your name is Anonymous therefore you are me
>>548534496>"H-ha you didn't w-win because I was already shit in the first place, s-so it didn't count. Haha...."
>>548534096zzz lead writer...
>>548534724It worked for genshin and hsr, surely it will work again right??
Wisewimps can’t catch a break
>>548534874Kys retarded ape
Guys every corner of the internet are laughing at us…
>>548534457AAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
>>548534750Chinese boycott, even though the CCP didn't go after Kuro.
>>548535005I CANT BELIEVE ITS JUST (1) UNO POSTER????
>>548533898A real answer that isn't Sneed. >Lack of vision>Boring story>Started off with good presentation compare to now with it being worse than Genshin>Dev desperate need to make money now made VH destroy the balance>HP inflation out the ass>Casuals don't like arena battle games and the content that doesn't involve fighting sucks>Characters either are too complex or the usual EQ swap in the case for ZZZ its just press E and swap>Role system is trash, Defense and Stunners are hard for the casual to evaluate
>>548534951>even redditors admit 2.4 got rewrote last minute to try to shill YeLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLZZZ DEVSARESOINCOMPETENT
>>548533485The guy is a good writer. Every patch/arc he wrote in hsr was regarded as the best story/characters/writing etc, see Penacony and later half of Amphoreus.
>>548534478patented god tier hoyo designs sir
>>548534792Yeah you can skip everyone and get them for freeVH is a retarded concept
>people get interested in zzz because the setting and theme are a breath of fresh air >other titles with a budget this big are just wuxia or fantasy slop >zzz gets urban aesthetic, talking androids, main characters that use their brains and tech over being LE CHOSEN ONE>throw all of that away with 2.0 and onward This is why ZZZ is failing and is hated.
yidhari is the only agent from 6.2 onwards that is getting consistent art kek, zhao is another good contender as she's already about to surpass luciaeveryone else is gigaflopping
biggest issue with zzz's (and i guess hoyo) writing is that they write like they're making a show for toddlers or kids. it's got that dora the explorer vibe iygwim
>>548535154TRVKE SVPERNOVA
>>548533485nobody likes the guy because he turns stories into fanfics for his hi3 characters
>>548535154China theme is their comfort zone, which means they're stressed out and running out of ideas and playing it safe
ZZZ is a lesson in gaming for devs that listening too much… never works… you have to have BALLS and follow your own vision
Why do I keep doing this every day
>>548535102Seed is the funny answer though
>>548535258yes horsey we know
>>548533861>Chisa is a shitty character is roccia lvl (in limited characters); she's only 1.5%-3% stronger than Aero Rover/Spectro Rover a free character...so all her revenue comes from appearance and storythis happens because wuwa has already identified his target audience, while ZZZ still doesn't know what direction wants to take and the bald head is ruining ZZZ storie
>>548535196>6.2timetravel anon which stocks should I invest in so I can retire by the end of 2026?
>>548534478GoonerbaitAnd they nailed it, because I like Lucia
>>548535154This. The game now is a skinwalker pretending to be ZZZ.
>>548535196yidhari does have the tentacle buff for fanarts, sadly it doesn't translate into sales
>>548534750>Posting old shit
>>548535321Lmfao wtf
>>548534407Who else they gonna show? Some code monkey guy?
>>548535290Their vision (tv mode) was retarded in the first place so they just copied HSR corridors and say fuck it
Whats the expected revenue for ye now ? I doubt it will go over 15 mil.
>>548535117I SAW Penacony. I experienced Penacony. I played through and did the entirety of Penacony. I lived through the hype of Shaoji being the writer of Penacony.And it is because of Penacony that I call Shaoji a fucking talentless hack.
>>548533963>>548534054>>548534060>>548534086>>548534232>>548534283>>548534383>>548534457>>548534568>>548534651
>>548535102Half of this could simply be summarized as>this game is ass to play on mobilewhich we know. which is why mobile sales are a shoddy metric
>>548535346Idk, Wuwa was supposed to compete with Genshin. It still failed to beat a rerun banner..
>>548535154I wouldn't have hated Chinawank as much if we were just doing regular proxy work but instead they completely ruined the twins by giving them magic powers.
Could you please start making money, wuwajeets are getting uppity again
>>548534387>zzz slop is barely a blip on the radarThat slop is why ZZZ is failing people don't care about this games shitty events and content sucks because HP inflation.
>>548534750Did this guy just post a bunch of July/August stuffAre you actually frothing at the mouth and just posting whatever image you saved in your anti-wuwa folder? lol
Will Dialyn even help me if I feel as though I need more dps characters? I've got three fully built stuns but the only actually good dps I have anymore is Yixuan everyone else just kinda sucks, including my Zhu Yuan who fills the exact same role as Yixuan.
How much will Ye Shunguang make? Be realistic
>>548535484crazy
>>54853557012M
>>548535484ok fine that's all me
>add an auto chess but instead of using agents or enemies who already have defined factions and unique silouettes as the base you use the fucker dolls that you can barely tell apart from a topdown view which makes every fight look the same regardless of teamcompshouldve atleast added some mechanic where you can throw bombs at the other guy to debuff his bangoboos to make it more unique
>>548535570Probably 2nd highest after Yi Xuan but not crazy numbers
>>548535570>>548535465she is december with the bara robot so
>>548535378that just increases the chance of her getting a figure which is way better than fake AI Gs
>>548535551Jeets always punch down never up sooo
>>548535484Is this what prompted our local schizo's origin story?
>>548535640Yixuan is the 3rd highest though
>>548535570half of what shifu made. game is too stale, not enough people will comeback just for her.
>>548535431They didn't need to show anyone at all, get a narrator over some animated B rolls.
>>548535570>Shifu only made 38M with Top Up reset>But Ye will probably get the full patch super shill bannerYe will be VERY Lucky to get close to 40M like Shifu did
>>548535484Stop quoting me
>>548535719It's 1 person btw (he is fighting with himself)
I like the fact that the game is underperforming so maybe hoyonigs do something about it
Bunny cunny!
>>548535154Blows my mind they threw out everything they built in 1.x. Game was doing fine, even the “flops” back then were selling better than the meta agents are now. Best case we survive 2.x and can rebuild starting with 3.0 when we leave Wiefei
>>548535903i just wish leadership would do SOMETHING about the state of things
There is a saboteur in the midst of the ZZZ devs, instead of releasing idols early we get china wank, that's just strange.
>>548535196>BA defenseFinal cope?
>>548536046sloppols will sell less than yx and ysg so this isn't really relevant lol
I done give a fuck about the idols Except the robot one
Jufufu love!
>>548536046Idol will do worse than YuzuhaIf I'm wrong (and still playing the game and browsing these threads by then), I'll donate $10 to a charity of your choice
>>548536140my bro Pan would never do this
>>548536046you're not the majority pedo. the idols are nothing special, just a different flavor of spook shack
>>548535903Them not doing anything means that the perception of the state of the game here is just a lot more pessimistic than it actually is. People deservedly shat on HNA, and guess what? Mihoyo is improving it.The devs not improving zzz means there isn't enough pressure (via possibly low revenue) to change
Please tell me we're leaving Waifei after 2.5. 3.0 is unironically too long and will fucking kill the game for real
>>548535570>not top up bonus x2>not spending eventsprobably like astra? 25m-26m
Ring-ring! Hey big boi!
>>548536046its kinda strange that china is always the second destination in their games and always the most boring of all the stories
I kneel
>>548536232I guess you're right, when I'm playing I'm actually having fun so I guess most doomposters don't even play the game
>>548536242Sorry, 2.7 will be notSasuke dogman redemption arc.
>>54853557030 mill. She will not go past Yi Xuan.The reality is there might be a lot of PULLS on her banner, but not as much revenue. There's been so many skip patches recently the people still playing for sure have a nice stockpile. This is why they made Dailyn so overtuned and made Banyue banner 10 days, to try and rip those savings out of people before the big drop
>>548535941Everyone in Waifei is seeing her panties here.
>>548536232>last minute lucia change>last minute ye shillingThey are clearly tryingTheyre just failing
The only brightspot of 2.xI kinda wish manato was just released back in 2.1 as an A-rank fire anomaly welfare subdps option for the alice / yuzuha teamI kinda wish lucia and yidhari were just their own faction. They dont fit in spook shack at all
>>54853557025-35 million is my guess. Yi Xuan had the benefits of top up reset, astra, and new version update. Ye Shung has to carry by herself at a time of the year when a lot games are pushing out their new years stuff.
why do you fags even try to attack wawawa when you all get mogged every patch?
>>548533621kek, I know the original comic
>>548536314>get 6 flashing orbs then hold lmbHmmmm
>>548536106>>548536156>>548536231>>548536289Idols dont have to sell but they help the place to be more positive, just like Fufu!
>>548535558>Are you actually frothing at the mou-ACKKKKTry not to have a meltdown while facing cold realities
>>548536232they're literally releasing a whole new game mode next patch retard. what else do you want them to do?
>>548536534
>>548536314Man, does this means I'll have to pull Dyalin If I wanna play Ye Shunguan? Sorry for asking this retarded question but I'm literally diagnosed as retarded
>>548536536I dont know enough about wuwa sales but is this considered a flop for them? I thought this japanese schoolgirl was their version of miyabi?
>>548536695FVARRRRRRRRK
>>548536526WE MADE HER EXACTLY LIKE MIYABI PLEASE ROLL PLEASE STOP USING MIYABI PLEASE PLEASEPLEASE
>>548536536>hugo outsold thisHuGODS we can't stop winning
>>548535903anon, you have to understand what you are dealing with>latest game is pure aislop>tft wannabe is a soulless guaranteed flop>genshit has seen ZERO (0) meaningful changes in 5 years despite making billions>hsr collab couldnt even afford voices and years of black screens>mihoyo started to enshitify zzz as soon as it didnt hit revenue benchmarks they predictedthis company is a soulless corpse of the pastchinks realized that they can mass produce pure fucking slop that panders to normieniggers and normieniggers will eat it up regardlesswhy put extra effort when shit sells
>>548536232literally the bald head rewrote 2.4 to shove down your throat ye shunguang
Yes I flopped. No I won't apologize.
>>548536652Zhao (free) + stunner / support shouldn’t be that far behind
Skipped MiyabersSkipped Shifu Skipping Shungus
>>548536536>LOST TO SEEDKEKAROOO
IT'S ALL HER FAULT
>doing weeklies>"take a picture of cat in sixth street">teleports me >suddenly feel out of placeThis game is just not the same anymore..
>>54853557015m max
>>548536738No, I guess it's average ? Their highest banners if I remember is Carthe and Zani, which were in the 30-40mil range
>wisewimp is samefagging againkek
>>548536929wait wait WAITdid she actually do WORSE THAN SEED???and these wuwajeets have the fucking gall to say shit about anything???hahahahahahahaHAHAHAA
>>548536829>genshit has seen ZERO (0) meaningful changes in 5 yearsI'd argue Genshin is in the best spot of all the Hoyo games. They have done a ton of QOL and aside from Natlan have been constantly getting better
>>548536829
>>548535637It's funny how HSR released one of the best autochess modes out there while ZZZ released one of the worst. Truly incompetent devs.
For me, ZZZ became bad during 1.6 or earlier. I remember ZZZ story quests being concise and disgestable relative to other gacha games but then the story quests became needlessly verbose and long.
You forgot your KEK ITS TRUE again
>>548537130>still no skip buttonyeah no into the trash it goes
>>548537185>the story quests became needlessly verbose and longThe word count is the same, but the characters are so uninteresting it's a drag
>>548537090Wuwafags are all bark and no bitethey come to paint different picture yet their banners shit the hardest.
>>548537007why wear that fucking clown ass drip everywhere when you got one of the best street designs to wear broare wisefags actually happy with that costume?
>>548537364>>548537185The dialog was always bad.You were just in the honeymoon phase for the early 1.x patches
>>548537434Look at that black ass cake nigga
How did you retards lose to a slay the spire clone with 1/10th the budget
>>548537434Dumb nigger, I dont want to wear the chink fit. I try to swap to the normal clothes in waifei and it fucking puts me back in the faggot fit
>>548537584very nice
>>548537393why this nigga never changes his bedsheets bro....
>>548537434nta but story forces that shit outfit. i wish i can use the urbankino shirt while on story
rape seed for killing the game
>>548537007This. I actually feel dirty going back to the urban zones with this clown ass fit.
>>548536536This isn't even current info, lol
How did it come to this
>>548537724My dick is going limp inside Seed now.....
>>548537130>natlanFontaine killed the game.
>>548537434The story missions constantly forcing you into the chink clothes is a humiliation ritual.
>>548537434Retard. You literally cant change out of it
>>548537774Who cares? Even CZN gods humiliated us this month.
HZ literally hasn't been fun since 1.0. Why did they abandon the TV's? Every new update they've attempted to add to HZ has sucked, the base version is still the only one with real replayability.
>>548537816Did you somehow forget the year long parade of males in Sumeru>>548537774We can't pick a fight with Indians now...
>>548537584why can't I get cake like this even tho I eat healthy and do a lot of squats
should I roll Dialyn sig?????
>>548537964Fontaine made Sumeru look like it was written by CS Lewis.
>>548538043no just go for 2pc er and use hellgears
>>548537774>i-it doesn't count most of the people playing this game are on pc....so are wong wa gods.
548535154>the setting and theme are a breath of fresh aircyberpunk slop has literally been driven into the ground in every medium howeverbeit.
>>548535469Yeah little bro, Penacony is so shit it was the highest earning period of hsr, the most popular one and its writer (Shaoji) is coming back to write 4.X, because of how bad he is.
DO I PULL DYALIN IF I WANNA USE YE SHUNGUANG YES OR NO NIGGAS
>>548537130genshin hasn't had even a minor map update in two patches thanks to the nigger normalfag pandering roblox shit they're spending their effort on instead
>>548538097you been samefagging for the past couple of hours, anon. Just give up already.
>>548538270No
>>548535570I'll be genuinely surprised if she does better than Yixuan.
>>548538270Use your own head you dumb fuck
>>548538221Meant for >>548535154
>>548538285trust me it makes no sense arguing with schizosdo yourself a favor and just filter him and move on
How do you guys know the site uses ai for that revenue thing? Just curious
>>548535154
>>548538013What's your male/female hormone ratio looking like
>>548538285>past couple of hoursPast couple of months*
>>548538379Can't
>>548538285Dont stopKeep egging him on kek, it's funnier this way
>>548523546who is letting horsenigger bake the OPs with his never-happening thread wars?
>>548535570>How much will Ye Shunguang make?Slightly more than Yuzuha.
>waterkuma leaves>game crashes and burns>his babies (the idols) are being teased to build up hype instead of VHsgrim
>>548538658But not one is hyped for delusion trash, so your AI generated concernpost immediately crashed and burned, lol
If ZZZ had gotten a generic japanese school girl with a himecut she wouldn't sold well here too.Instead we got Dialyn.
>>548538658I would also leave this shit game for a booba gf
>>548538496It was a disclaimer in the sites about page that said they were all estimations. That little excerpt is our schizo's origin story.
>>548538770Oh care to share? I don't even know waht the page is
>>548535570Bit less than Astra
>>548535570December won't even break 20 milion. There has been a lot of skips and I don't think Ye is a design that can bring back anyone who isn't already playing. She is just another flashy wuxia agent.Not to mention the way they are pushing her is for some (like me) repulsing. It reeks of desperation.
I'm demoralized and don't feel like logging in anymore
>no ZZZgrim
>Miyapag: 58m>Yixuan: 38mI will laugh my ass off if Ye only does 30~ tops
>>548538903We don't deserve it.
>>548538841https://game-i.daa.jp/?%E3%82%AC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E5%88%86%E6%9E%90/%E3%82%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BE%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BC%E3%83%AD
>>548538892Why
>>548539003Ye won't even hit 20m
>>548538736hoyo isn't allowed to release Japanese characters anymore
>>548539039And where is it pointed out here that they use IA?Sorry I just have 0 clue about those things
>>548538270If you're rolling YSG you want Dialyn according to Jstern. The top 10 of her best teams have Dialyn in them. Zhao is not as important anymore but still optimal.
>>548539197You can use a translator and navigate the site. You are not 12 anymore.
>>548538270Need black characters
we're getting our asses kicked on all social media platforms, the devs need to do something, give away a limited character or something to boost navy morale
>>548538903Obviously it's not players voice since they removed TVs
>>548539331A free mindscape like Genshin got would boost morale
>>548539197https://game-i.daa.jp/?%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%81%AB%E3%81%A4%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6#sb13de24
NOBODY cares about your excel memecharts, you can spam them on reddit if you want.
I want more free pulls in CZN can you get your shit together already and make that game do worse.
>>548539003the less she sells the better. if she sells well they'll just completely give up on trying to make the game good and just pump out shallow void hunters that love you for no reason every other patch
If you can't beat em, join em...>designs a red/white character with scenery changing ults and flashy floating weapon powersI just hope I don't get executed like that one retard who put ju fufu right after yixuan-shifu and killed all our momentum....
>>548538736She would've sold well here*Actually you know what, the devs would've probably fucked up "generic japanese schoolgirl with himecut" and she'd have flopped too.
>>548524503This but unironically. TV removal is literally the point of no return
>>548539505sorry cuckshiptranny, Astra sold gorillions and Mihoyo will milk those players until EOS. You can play dolls in Shart Rail though, go back.
>>548538763This nigga has been baiting pedos for money while dating a hag with massive tits. Masterful gambit
>>548539564They'll give her an apron and plenty of ribbons
>>548523897>>548523897>>548523897>>548523897
>>548539672what money? lol the first half of 1.1 and the second half of 2.0 were disastrous
>>548539003The best part? Ellen STILL sold more than Miyabi (100m) To this day Ellen's sales have yet to be beat or even come close to.
>>548539197
>>548538841They literally use AI to approximate sales figures
>>548539232Dyalin's W-engine necessary?
>>548539869Makes her easier to build and gives extra buff. Not really, she gets most of her kit without it.
>>548539869Dialyn's engine simply makes it easier to reach her 100% crit rate buff. But you can reach this without her engine if you just roll better discs. You miss out on a couple of other buffs but it's not that bad. If you have Hellfire Gears it's a good replacement but you still need to roll good crit rate substats on your discs.Now Shungus weapon is going to be a 30% better than the next best wengine. If you're going to roll any wengine it should be that one.
>>548539941>>548540060Alright, thank you guys I guess I'll have to top-up because I want Ellen + W engine for waifu reasons, and the Ye Shunguan team for meta, I'm glad I won't need Dyalin's W-engine, and if Zhao happens to be free that'd be so huge for me
>>548540363Jstern says Zhao is "almost certainly" going to be free. But we won't know until the livestream.
>>548540631buy an ad already faggot
HOLY SHIT our revenue ladsi was waiting for banyue but i think im outta here sorry boys. im juggling too many gachas rn anyways
>>548540631A lot of people seems to say that so I really hope that's the case
>>548540695Shut up hrtranny. If I want to know about fagnon buttplugs I'll know who to ask. Otherwise kill yourself.
>>548540060>>548540363dialyns wengine is actually pretty good, not mandatory to make her a real character like triggers but still goodthe 24% crit rate lets you use ER 2pc. my dialyn has 2.14 ER atm.then you can move a portion of her substats to crit dmg
>>548541069sorry adding onto this, you also get some crit dmg and way better energy regenit's better for teams that have a dps that don't require building up so many resources like ellen, hugo, s11, prolly sanby too. conversely it's worse for teams that need resources before stun, like evelyn or yixuan.its just because she stuns too fast that your stun phase is actually wasted
>>548541069I might pull for it, but I need to do some planning first, I'm new so there's still a lot of pulls from story and commissions that I'm yet to get I'm also on monthly + battle passAlways thinking about the worst case scenario when it comes to luck of course
>>548541531I personally wouldn't pull on it because all of the dpses I like playing are the resource management ones, but I just did a cheeky 10 pull and won the 75/25 in 2 pulls so I'm down for a boost
>>548542591Lucky!!!!
>>548542591Oh I forgot to ask, the ye shunguang patch must give a decent amount of pulls and her banner should last a decent amount of time, so getting all the characters and W-engines I want should be totally doable, right? That'd be 3 agents and 3 W-engines
>>548543076yeah you could do it but you might need to nolife a bit
>>548544152I never really had one to begin with
