Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves: Legends Edition Now Availablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ur8WYwB0k >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2492040/FATAL_FURY_City_of_the_Wolves/>Season 2 January 22https://youtu.be/tqe1RBmJ9S8 >KRAUSERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4ceRh4zn0Y >KENSHIROhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACnFBb_RAfw>Community resourceshttp://dreamcancel.com/how-to-play/ https://wiki.supercombo.gg/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zg8H1AgpgPBbAdpPdsGC3WRUEmGVajbv2Ea6b-FZ1kI/edit?gid=0#gid=0>DandyJ's beginner guide to KOFhttps://youtu.be/Ye3KVgI1LvU >KOFXV beginner guideshttps://youtu.be/t-mYZnOFxlg https://youtu.be/cqTpKMethDo>KOF XV Grand Final SNK World Championship 2025https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_og0dUoTlFc >/neog/ Discord: https://discord.gg/HYAQYFh>Official SNK Discord:https://discord.gg/SNK>KOFXV Discordhttps://discord.gg/mePUQup755>SNK Media Galleryhttps://pastebin.com/R7uX3B5J>Assorted Translationshttps://kof.eu5.org/>NEO-GEO FREAK Magazine Archive https://archive.org/details/@japanesemagazinesscans?sort=titleSorter&&and[]=subject%3A%22neo_geo_freak%22>RedGGPO and romsethttps://redggpo.com/https://archive.org/details/2020_01_06_fbn>KOF Official Site backuphttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1n98CoBR6GPywr3kzyydNCT5UHTwMNW51/viewPrevious >>566039236
Ryo is gay
>>567158747fuck.
>>567158747can't wait to see what the numbers look like for cotw
>>567159115Millions
>>567159608of atomic particles that make up one person
>>567158747Harada's new game will be in the top 10
>>567161160>not a single fighting game
>>567143003>samurai did not have as big of a trend in usa like ninja did in the 80s, the capital of cool in the worldAnd I already explained that, I’m talking from the perspective of Japanese that never saw ninjas cooler than Samurai. But for some reason you want to discard the source and focus on America calling it muh capital of cool as if this makes your point any valid. Inherently flawed.
>>567162254People like guns. People like shooting things. You just sit, pick up the controller and play instantly. No need to watch an hour-long tutorial. Very addictive. If you lose, you can just blame your team...Yeah. It's no surprise to see these types of games among the most played.
>>567163484it's your fault that the regional discussion even started because i certainly didn't bring it up first when the initial comment was simply that ninjas just weren't cool enough for their own game, which didn't say "ninjas weren't cool enough in japan" as if that was supposed to excuse a game failing to be at samsho levels of appeal (it didn't)
>>567162254That's why I said Oda made a big mistake with Cotw. He wasn't thinking of SNK as a AAA company, he was thinking of himself. Otherwise, he would have done something like "Metal Slug meets Counter-Strike" while continuing to update KOF15 (and could even have included the "epic" conclusion of the Garou 2 story there). Now let's hope Harada does things right, sells millions, and saves Oda's ass from the Saudis.
>>567166358The most fun we had in metal slug was riding those vehicles, turning it into an fps doesn’t make sense
>>567166926*ahem*
>>567167165when you ride a vehicle in metal slug you shoot people not other tanks
Mr. Karate.
>>567167256Hmm, yes? I know. I'm giving an example. So you don't want to imagine, adapt, and transform it in your mind?Alright, I'll do it for you. In each match, a random player from each team will control the Metal Slug, and the rest of the players are soldiers. The tank has about thirty times more HP than a soldier. However, when it's destroyed, the match ends. If a soldier dies, it respawns a few seconds later.There you go, Oda. I've given you a good idea for a Metal Slug multiplayer game for free, since your brain is full of sausages and incapable of thinking that way. Thank me later.
>>567168717you will just repeat the mistake of overwatch, where all other players become npcs and the tank is the main character, and this also makes the tank unfun because you always get blamed for the loss
>>567168968Honestly, considering everything Overwatch has achieved since the beginning, even with this "mistake," it seems like they won the lottery in the end. If SNK had only achieved 20% of Overwatch's success with a multiplayer game, this "mistake" would still be worthwhile. I mean, better that than making a much worse mistake of continuing to insist on fighting games.
>>567171387>If SNK had only achieved 20% of Overwatch's successHere's your mistake you're looking at it from snk's perpesctive, which is indeed true, overwatch was never a failure, but it could've been so much bigger, something like LoL or COD or Fortnite, now it's just another fps game, it's why people call it a failure. It's like losing the chance to become a corporation and settling for a regional company.
>SNK is bringing back dormant series".........................................................................">Capcom is bring back dormant series"LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
>>567171387>I mean, better that than making a much worse mistake of continuing to insist on fighting games.This is common sense but it's something oda lacks, because he operates based on nostalgia and emotion. He wants to make something bigger than SF, because he feels inferiority complex, he will keep trying forever.
>>567171891tbf all of snks dormant series were arcade games and fighting games, also snk never had userbase in the ps2 era which is what most players grew up with. You can't compare that to Capcom.
Oda is gay, woke and retard. Joe will never win ;_; Seriously, why?
>>567171932>He wants to make something bigger than SF, because he feels inferiority complex, he will keep trying forever.That's true. The $4 million in prize money proves it. It's the only thing he can use to claim he's superior to Capcom.
Blue Mary needs a break from Twitter
>>567152489I managed to do it with Krauser, guess Krauser is even more broken than input reading AI
ShiBRAPui Mai
CotW online is just a Krauser fest...it's no fun at all fighting NPCs who all play the same
>>567178714Not our fault that literally all of his combos are the same SAVOR THE PAIN
>>567157427>>56716849730 years later and none of them managed to produce a Kyokugenryu heir. Poor Takuma never got any grandchildren. Maybe they really are gay.
>>567172023Arcade games got different genresSNK had fighting games, beat 'em ups, shmups, run and guns, racing games, rail shooters, sports games, puzzle games, quiz games and beyond arcade they dabbled in RPGs, card games (SvC ones were cinema) and dating sims as well.With only a little bit of rearrangement you can get plenty more genres out of it... or you can get Athena PS1 and Metal Slug 3D, those are always a possibility.
Cat fight!
>>567183608>SNK had fighting games, beat 'em ups, shmups, run and guns, racing games, rail shooters, sports games, puzzle games, quiz games and beyond arcade they dabbled in RPGs, card games (SvC ones were cinema) and dating sims as well.and none of those evolved to be console games, liek what capcom did, meaning you have to start over again, any arcade ip you use, will be just a name, the game is completely different.
How come KOF 94 was called KOF 94.It was the first one but they already knew they were going to make them yearly?
That's just Ryo's gi
nobody will line up for a new ikari warriors, because it was once a famous game, same thing happened for cotw. To the general public they're essentially new ips. But it would be compeltely different if Capcom announced God Hand 2.
Unpopular opinion. I wouldn't mind SNK's current graphics if they simply released more games. Different games. Fun games. New IPs with original mechanics. Releasing for all platforms, including mobile devices. At least 3 games per year. I prefer that to waiting X years just to see their poor attempt to clone Stellar Blade or God of War.
>>567185129Some did. Some dodn't need particular console specific evolution. Some actually started on consoles (NGP is one, you know).Speaking about Capcom, they barely use their arcade IPs outside of Street Fighter and extremely rare Makaimura games. When they tried to bring back Final Fight with Streetwise and Bionic Commando, they crashed hard.I'm not saying that arcade games are unadaptable, btw (character action Sengoku reimagining would be true to its roots). Or that it is a problem for SNK that always made liberal use of their IP and focused more on characters rather than on gameplay (until 2010s).
>>567186480Exactly. Their games don't justify waiting a long time for when they look and launch with as much content as they do.
>>567186184K'ek, good one.
>another episode of "let's copy a popular genre but with our ip"
>>567189592Crazy, huh?
Hey, SNK...
>>567189929at least they tried to be novel with lanes here, they didn't commit to it and are now trying for the sf6 audience and only got like a handful of its pro players to careevery other suggestion is just put snk skins over overwatch or elden ring or mario kart or some shit smdh
>>567190717Okay. So why not do the same now? Choose something popular and add creative elements, like they did with the lanes? What's really stopping them, if they now have the money to do it? Remember. The prince said "back to the glory days." That means many games a year, not ONE_GAME.jpg
>>567178714My only problem after a month is that I still fall for the same frametraps and setplays and I'm only punishing about a third of what I should.People will jump to the next character.
>>567191859>Okay. So why not do the same now? Choose something popular and add creative elements...The prince said "back to the glory days." That means many games a year, not ONE_GAME.jpgask them, because they're not actually doing any of that>one lane stage>one ringout stage>one game
>>567162254Been telling you retards normal fucking people do not have interest in fighting games because of the supposed "depth" or "gameplay" being actively unappealing. You're NOT getting people to play arcade games in the big 2020s. It's like complaining "why is nobody playing space shmups???"
King of Survivors WILL save the SNK!
>>567195448*if I wanted less money, Ikari Survivors works too
>>567183626KOF vs KEKKEN NEVER EVER
>>567143721Finished on Hardest at launch, but only recently started going for Arcade Nightmare Geese. I got to Fallen Rock, then lost 1 round. I was pissed lol
>>567157427Counterpoint. He prefers Kasumi.
>>567189929The whole point of this game was to be different from Street Fighter...
>>567198932The true beginning of SF was SF2 not 1, it's why bringing in Nishiyama to make a rival ultimately failed. SF1 was merely a prototype, it was never supposed to be a fighter, it's main idea was a boss rush, the other player served as ken who interrupts your single player campaign with identical moveset to take it away from you, basically DS invasion style. Nishiyama never wanted to make a fighter or had a special knack at it.
>>567190201I recall Infiltration having a short video making fun of KOFXV's graphics. And he did not have any interest in SNK games beyond SamSho 2019. And I don't think the Korean KOF/SNK scene messes with him.While he's vaguely saying he'll play "fighting games", I'm just don't think he'll play anything but SF6 for the next 5 years.
...............
>>567203723Bros... I think... AOF4... will be cancelled...
>>567201271If he doubled down on this instead of turning FF2 into a bootleg SFII, there could've been some appeal, but that would also require not making quarter munchers and SNK were greedy back then too so they were never going to beat Capcom at their own game
>>567156492Women who fuck psycopaths are not human (applies to Tekken Jun too).
>>567203723I keked audibly, weekly too not daily
>>567206623if he doubled down, it would become a beat em up series not a fighter. Unless you mean the lane mechanic. Yeah they should've tried to evolve the formula instead of just copying SFII
>>567203723>>567207192I think it's time for Frieren collab to give this dead game a boost
look we're not normalfags here, we don't view frieren as a hot waifu, stop shitting the thread and watch more anime.
>>567203723>>567207192Now explain to me how anyone in their right mind could give a one million prize to a game with this kind of "performance"? Oda is a sociopath. Fire Oda now! and hire Falcoon again.
>>567209501>and watch more anime.That's much worse than saying "go jump off a cliff".
Metal Slut anime when
>>567206337SNK has infinite money with their Saudi sugar daddy.
>>567203723Are you guys pretending to be retarded, or do you not know that that's fake? The new Playstation thing only concerns the Top 10 games in each country.
>>567207897>it would become a beat em up series not a fighterThat defeats the purpose of why Nishiyama invented the fighter. It was a boss rush game that skipped the mook padding. Instead of needing to punch through weak enemies until you get to the boss, you got cutscenes between each boss in FF1. It's an extremely fun ideaInstead we get SFII with lanes and a game that barely works. Sure they fixed it in Special, but SNK are the kings of their games being shit on launch
>>567209672I think Saudi has a seperate funding from esports, since they own it and want to make it a billion dollar business, meaning the prize money is independent of the game's budget or out of snk's own pockets. Of course I don't put it past Oda, but this is the most logical explanation.
>>567212039So what would an idea like that evolve to if it didn't become bootleg SFII?it's why SNK should've never revived FF, KOF was their own authentic fighter other than SamShow that wasn't a SF clone like FF or AOF.
>>567213880It would require telling stories which SNK seems legitimately incapable of doing because any time they try, they just give up and copy their enemies. They tried to rerail Fatal Fury back to its intended purpose with Fatal Fury 3, but the troubled production + flop of FF3 led to them just shitting out Real Bout Dream matches for nearly half a decade afterwards until MotW fully killed Fatal Fury because turns out the SFIII idea wasn't going to do numbersIf they WERE going to revive Fatal Fury, it really should've been an attempt to rerail MotW into what FF3 was doing so that the main competitive focus was on KOF since, as you said, that's their authentic fighter. But instead CotW had to be the tourney pot and now pretty much 3 million dollars minimum have gone to waste to promote a game nobody plays
>>567213880NTA, the new FF should've continued from where Wild Ambition left (mechanically, not necessarily in terms of the storyline).And I mean, things that CotW doesn't borrow from it already and without MotW baggage.
>>567217621>>567217685using motw's characters and story instead of starting fresh was fucking retarded. I'm not sure if snk was REALLY fooled by max or its just oda who had a soft spot for it since he worked on it as a planner and designer.
>>567218191The real problem is that Fatal Fury had already been gutted for parts over the years and all the essentials and pop picks were KOF roster filler. So MotW/CotW NEEDED to have something to set it apart from KOF but the game doesn't do a good job justify any interest in these aspects because turns out when you have a brand new roster, you have to work from scratch justifying why people should care about the new roster and CotW didn't do that, it just assumed people already cared about the MotW characters, because SNK assumes people already care about SNK stuff and don't put the effort to actually making their work approachable, accessible and interesting
No one can disprove that Preecha is canonically a transwoman. Fake tits, trans flag hair, ran away from her family due to disagreements and misunderstandings, trans color alt, even official art depicts her with more male features than her cis counterparts. To say Preecha is a real woman is like saying Ellie over in /fgg/ is a real woman and a talented artist.To top it off, we're also never getting Mai's classic look back no matter what you delude yourselves into believing. Blue Mary is a lesbian too.
>>567210351>has infinite money>also has mental retardationlol even
Andy is straight
>>567217621I really think CotW could've tanked any single flaw/fault/weakness/mistake/misstep -- or even a couple of them -- and have been really successful... but having to deal with the multitude of them at the same time was impossible.
Fatal Fury vs Invincible when
>>567209934>in an thread about a company known for anime-ish designs/series>hates anime
>snk games and hype
> https://x.com/frionel26/status/2055617298988187864We did it, guys. Good job.
Lmao
I found out that I own KOFXV even though I don't remember ever having played a KOF. Give me a rundown on the game.
>>567246463>>DandyJ's beginner guide to KOF>https://youtu.be/Ye3KVgI1LvU [Embed]also, the rest of the OP.
>>567203723>ALL THE FG PLAYERS PLAY ON PS4 BRO>SYLVIE SCHIZO STEAMCHARTSSCHIZO BTFO
>>567225120
Puta in COTW when
>>567253805...............................huh?
who's fun in 98? besides iori
>>567269436USA team
Never or soon?
Snk fags are twitter are sensitive bitches
>>567272993Expect every FF character to return, even the unpopular ones like the Jin twins.
>>567274226Thanks, Oda.
>>567211756Welcome to humankind on the internet
Xiangfei and Tsugumi must be redesigned to become appealing, it will be the ultimate test to see if snk still has it or not/
>>567278072I love Xiangfei design...
I should commission more brap and scat pics of Mai again..
>>567278072Give Xiangfei a skimpy qipao and she will become a fan favourite.
Sup, neog. What if, instead of KoF16, you received Samurai Shodown 2 (by Harada), but with several KoF characters as samurai and team based? What would you think of that?
>>567276302>>567211756It's not anyone's fault that the FGC is so closeted upon itself and retarded to not even know what a centel account is.
>>567282238qipao is good taste
Do any of you remember how I can play the NEOGEO version of KOF02 in KOF02UM?.
>>567163967When did we men get so weak that we started preferring guns (a tool that anyone can use) to actual physical force and ability to use our bare hands to beat up our enemies?
>>567295795since 10th century china and throughout countless wars and conflicts spanning since then to include the revolutionary war, world war i, world war ii, vietnam, korea, desert storm,you're asking a highschool girl level question
>>567278072Xiangfei must be redesigned like Jam Kuradoberi, it's 2026 for chrissakes!
>>567293375You can't on the current version
>>567303385>fgg
>>567300738Nobody said that schizo. There’s no reasoning with snk fags. They call old characters dimeless, and so when you naturally recommend a redesign they call it woke.
>>567274226>even the unpopular ones like the Jin twins.This is historical revisionism. Jin twins were fairly popular at the time, especially in Japan (unlike Xiangfei, who was pushed pre-bankrupcy to try farming points with Chinese audience). There's a good reason why they were added to NGBC.
>>567285093>It's not anyone's fault that the FGC is so closetedYeah, it is. It's the people in the FGC's fault. Period. Don't need 'em. Don't like 'em. Don't watch 'em.
>>567306486That's new information for me.Not that they're hated or anything but for boss characters they seem to be pretty forgetabble. People barely talk about them and if they do it's not very positive. Or at least that's how it is on English sites.
Andy is... BASED
>>567315680A lot of SNK stuff is obscure in the English speaking sphere in the first place, with loudest and the most influential voices shilling for MotW, CvS2 (lol) and KoFXIII above everything else.
>>567317757>no puking
They should add Team Maximum Impact.
>>567325502To CotW.
>>567317757Finally someone put that creepy stalker whore in her place.
ODA PLSDROP SOME NEWSAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
>I won't play any games, I only react to news like a social parasitesad
>>567331078Hello another social parasite friend. How are you doing?
>>567331078We're all losers here. There's no point in making projections, anon.
Buriki One reboot by Harada's team.
>>567274226Alfredbros! Let's gooooooo!!
Imagine the shitstorm if Harada remake this super move...
I respect no one whose main form of offense is throw loops and shimmys. Fuck you, you make fighting games unfun
>throw loopsStreet Fighter thread is two blocks down
What's the deal with not replying to the post number now? I've been seeing quite a lot of that lately. Who started this shit? Reply to the damn post or shut the fuck up, faggot.
>>567335728There'd be no shitstorm over something like this but SNK nowadays is so cowardly that they probably think twitter is going to hunt Oda's head over it
>>567338084I said Harada but okay.
Cotw needs THIS marketing
>>567315680>Not that they're hated or anything but for boss characters they seem to be pretty forgetabble.If I remember right they were first conceptualized as one guy with a split personality, then they got divvied up into two characters, and then FF3 had some development fuckery so in an abstract way I view them as like 1/4 of a complete character eachBy RB2 you can see that dev team was sort of figuring out what they wanted from them but then Garou happened and 99% of the cast got thrown into the cuckshed
I want these character, I legit play as all of them in old Fatal Fury gamesJubei(I'm surprised he hasn't come back in any game since FFS he's really fun)Big Bear/RaidenChengRyoRickAlfred(I play him in Dominated Mind where he's more fair)DuckFrancoTungLaurenceBob/Richard would be fun too. I play Hwa in Kof 13. Also I want them to revamp Mary and apologize for making a character who is all throw guessing and parrying
Gato won a major.The King is dead, long live the King.
>>567350291Is dreamhack a major?I don't think so, even the casters were in their houses.
>>567350291I don't like playing against Gato or Vox, I hate their specials
>>567347561Have they ever interacted like, at all?
>>567359430Yes.
>>567359430yes, in the original game, and in cotw A LOT.
>>567304865but what if it's a sexier redesign, like shermiecheckmate, atheist
>>567317757andy has to beat on mai because he can't beat terry>>567338039this place did when they wanted to pretend not to reply to me lol
cotw needs doro as a guest
>>567183483art of fighting? more like art of...faggots
KOF XVI needs to pull a Megaman 9 and just look like literally like this. Create sprites for the post-XI characters that make it.
>>567376286and you'll get maybe 100k people who'll at least add it to their library and a starting 4k who'll actually play it before most of them put it away while mexicans go back to 2k2 or 98 on fightcade
>>567367560It needs its own mascot
>>567377963kek they couldn't manage it without fucking something up in the process
discuss the actual fucking games instead of your shitty fanfiction
>>567380556nofanfiction is more entertaining than whatever snk comes up with, which might as well be bad fanfiction
https://x.com/jagar001/status/2055799247220752750Noice
who's your never ever?
>>567384202As in characters I wish were playable in a new game, even though their chances are next to 0%? Rose Bernstein. Kino design and she's the daughter of RUGAL. You could do so much if you gave her some kind of power awakening and I'm tired of seeing SNK put her as a background NPC if they remember she exists.Botan too, would be a fun puppet character pick.
>>567384202
>>567278072Tsugumi is appealing>>567333814Wasn't Alfred literally datamined. Anyway I always dug Alfred design
>>567391540SNK isn't based enough
>>567359430Secondary retard.
>>567391540Terry's cute butt...
Mai is the "potencial character" of this game. All tiers place her in the upper half.No one plays her.
>>567376286As a reminder Mega Man 9 schtick worked for one game exactly, before Mega Man 10 was labeled as a lazy cashgrab.That said, KoFXII-XIII should've used KoFXI sprites upscaled akin to KoF94 Re-bout instead of inventing a completely new (worse) style.
>>567412972>KoF94 Re-boutthat game looked bad
Don't hate Oda so much. Things could be much worse.
>>567417242yeah, wait until it happens with snk and people will be like "yeah you don't understand dei development, or dei-velopment if you will, antitrannie-schizo"
>>567418173>no blacksbased
>>567419162yetuntil they hire decepticonfag
>>567386929She's a brocon and seeing how the FGCucks has a melty over Alex they would implode once they find out about her
Speaking of Rose...who the hell wrote her wiki this way. So amateurish.
>>567422030yeah, all 10 people that even notice snk exists lol
>>567422497>le snk is irrelevant gimmick in 2026Please. As if the FGC doesn't swarm around them whenever there's controversy.
>>567422812kit's a vocal minority until snk is the victim of such but otherwise it's capdrones ignoring them
>>567423071Be less predictable with your replies next time, you've gotten pretty boring as of late.
>>567423375at least i actually commit to the things i've said before unlike some flipflops who change their opinions to something convenient whenever snk changes course
>>567423508The flipflop flop flippers are always watching (You). Whatever you do, do not take the medication bottle on your table.
>>567422030Still can't believe that shit was real. Not because I'm super against fictional incest or big age gaps or anything but it legitimately came out of nowhere. I was expecting some follow-up on some of the Gil shit but nah instead we get some random revelation about Tom being like Alex's uncle and Alex impregnating his sister-cousin-wife.
>>567424146k snk mark
>>567424709It's retarded writing but that's on par with that series. It's just funny seeing grown adults mald over it like they've just discovered there's a whole other world of tropes that are commonly used beyond the most surface level, vanilla stuff they engage with.
>>567424709>I was expecting some follow-up on some of the Gil shitGenuinely why? SF6 hasn't had any significant stories or interesting reveals. This is consistent with the game's writing, it pretends to have stakes but then nothing happens. The only "story" it tells is backstory, so if Gill was brought up in any way all they would've said was "yeah I beat Gill back in Street Fighter III: Third Strike..."Even CotW at its worst has some things actually happen, they're just usually not interesting. It seems like SNK wants to try and be Capcom though and are barely letting the game flourish any further beyond surface level answers to MotW questions
>>567203723this is real btw
>>567413276A big part of that was having lower budget and using older sprites as the base.
>>567427724lower budget and lower talentnow that they have a higher budget, they still have lower talent
>>567428768Well, yes. A retard doesn't become a genius after receiving tons of money. More news at eleven.
>>567427724No the smooth plastic artstyle used was just ugly. No matter how much money they could've thrown at it that wouldn't have changed.
>>567429792so what was the purpose of pointing out lower budget like they're going to fire any of their current ones to replace themthe only companies that actually replace them are AAA grade ones who go through more members than a kpop girl group
>page 10
What's the PS5 numbers for CotW?
>>567435708"almost 100 for the week"
>>567435708I don't think its hard to guess, just take the steam numbers and either double or triple it as a maximum amount. Still not much.
>>567424709>>567425809*The Illuminati are still around but have no such big presence in VI story, Gill exposed himself by fighting with G in V story but apparently no one mentioned it*Spare-Clone Vega/Bison is planning to reconstruct Shadaloo as a token of slowly regaining his memories, Vega/Bison tried to recruit Sagat but was declined*Rose, G and the Illuminati predicted that there will be a catastrophic event that will put the universe in danger, Rose says she is going "back to zero"*If the leaks are true Ingrid is bringing characters from other universes These are Street Fighter stakes and honestly by how VI is handling things they may not matter at all
https://x.com/viuvasdokof/status/2056439440545915144Nice bug
>>567435708https://x.com/TheFGCentel/status/2055696370653081724
>>567444371https://x.com/El_Halcon_Azul/status/2056204329426493558this is the kind of comment i'm describing when i make the joke "it works on my machine"i did say joke, but it's real
tiktok.com/@snk_globalyay?
>>567446316and what purposetiktok is for idiots who stream videos of themselves going to stores to disturb people for reactions and hopefully to get shot at and killed
>>567446316>shitokGreat! Now more people will know that SNK only has ONE GAME
>>567301813Shame. It would be too handy launching 02 from steam instead THE FUCKING FIGHTCADE
So you all bitch about CotW copying SF6 but is no one going to call out Capcom for stealing EOST now?https://x.com/i/status/2056510142766616769
>>567455440because eost was completely original and never done before yeah lol
>>567440685ZA WARUDO Jojo collab soon
>>567455884This is literally the exact same mode from cotw copy pasted. Gtfo schizoid.
>still no pornIt's over...
>>567457145rich from the anon mad about copying shit and their version is using your custom avatar character that cotw doesn't even have and didn't even bother copying, and as if a leveling sp campaign mode hasn't been in fgs before like blazblue and pretty sure they already had a world tour mode with similar effects anywayyou guys shat on avatar creation but would say shit like how snk is saved if they finally got one or some shit because of flipflopperybecause your opinions aren't real, everything you say is simply whatever's convenient to defend or support snk at the timeso yeah turn on your monitor
>>567457237so is it male or female
>>567457938Holy melty.Nobody's reading that buddy.
>>567459434says the guy posting news about capcom games in a neogeo thread and asking why nobody else is mad
wait wait lemme do an impression"i am totes not the same anon"
>>567459936says this says that how about you just stop saying shit. nothing you ever type out is tangible to people with working front lobes.
>>567460214turn on your monitor
>https://x.com/Masaobkgy/status/2054364324614070648Thoughts?
>>567461730>S-tier in one series and garbage tier in anotherThe duality of being a Billy Kane enjoyer
>>567461730Jae that bad?
>>567461730I don't get why Rock is considered top 5 by so many top players. Is he really that good just by being solid in all areas? His damage seems pretty average and it's not like his neutral or mix is that oppressive.
>>567464724He's the E Honda of the game if Honda didn't have a command grab. His whole game plan is fishing for stand C hits and hoping the opponent doesn't know how to duck or whiff punish and landing his one big combo
>>567461730pretty good but I'd bump rock down between Andy and Preecha.
>>567461730I think Hokuto and Kain should be at least a little bit higher.
>>567461730lmao remember jae hoon?
They sold that bum Jae as DLC, btw. The Marty Janetty of the Kim Family and SNK thought people wanted him so badly in Fatal Fury that they'd be willing to pay extra for him. Made an AI sloppa advertisement for him and everything.
>>567470772can only laugh at such a gesture kek
>>567461730Geese, Kain, Kevin, Mai, Jenet higher
>>567470772better than using gen ai in actual games like capcom
>>567476614>Meet the Potential Woman
>>567481465mom I was looking down.
Bumpsies.
>>567457938Gotta agree with this guy. It was the hardcore SNK CAN DO NO WRONG dickriders who sperg about even suggesting SNK copy any GOOD elements from pre-SFV Capcom games. eg:>"they should make rev blow punishable like FADC">"OH, SO YOU WANT SF6 AVATARZ?! YOU WANT THEM TO COPY CAPCOM?!"Typical low IQ, mentally ill stuff like that. But now Capcom's borrowing an idea, they wanna ask why the people wanted better gameplay logic aren't angry. The whole thing is retarded. They flipflop so much, they could argue with their own posts.
https://www.justnopoint.com/lbends/index.php?location=sprites&page=1&gallery=kofxiii&file=TerryI've been hunting around for the actual sprites used in KOFXII/XIII to no luckI found the link above from a MUGEN resource but the quality is just... This isn't even close to source quality.I have a few animations as .gif in source quality but they're very limited from Fighters Generation.
>>567496739Actually nvm I think these are sourceissue was the dog software I was using to view/edit it, it looks fine in actual image editing software
OOF
>>567455440always said EOST was a brilliant idea but undercooked.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KPwHp4bh5dY
>>567504179>TrannikenK'ek
>>567504179bad enough they did this but also
>>567501636Yep, they should have made a proper VN with fights.
>>567513892proper vns don't work, don't be retarded man. That's no difference than the movie story mode GGS does. VNs as a story mode might work if you have a full on world lore that needs to be explored, not for dumb characters like jenet and hoktumaru.What EOST needs is more customization, builds, free roam hub, mini games like AoF, unlockables... etc.
also alternate versions of the characters like evil terry are very fun, they should do more of em
>>567517156They missed a great opportunity by not including Shadow Andy.
Oda would you sell me sausageOda would sell me sausages
>>567516575They should've made characters like Jenet and Hokutomaru actually have shit going on instead of roster padding them, then. As for your criticisms>CustomizationThey need alt costumes for that to be a big deal. It's not like there's interest in customizing moves in these games because it becomes a fucking mess of balance>BuildsPrevious statement>Free Roam HubWhat I'd been saying before release. Being just a checkmark map is underwhelming as hell. Compare No More Heroes 1 with No More Heroes 2. The latter just "cuts to the chase" and it's a lot less interesting and shows it's a budget sequel compared to the first game's fully fleshed out Santa Destroy map. The idea of playing as your roster in the supposedly more fleshed out South Town instead of some crappy avatar would set in Metro City would've actually turned heads. Instead EOST looks like a college project>Mini gamesThe weird part is they clearly have more mini games in the code, they just haven't released them yet. We're almost finished with S2 and the arm wrestling minigame datamined from the OBTs>UnlockablesThese are there, they're just underwhelming due to EOST being underwhelming. Fix the first problems, then this one gets fixed too
>>567518880*And the arm wrestling minigame datamined from the OBTs is still missing
>>567517528yeah shadow andy would be more fun since he's in the shadow of his brother, so those emotions feel more real.
>>567518160sausagessausagessausag-ACK
>>567517528the lack of ex characters at all in their modern games is jarring considering their history with games like rbs/2 and some of the kof games, to even include xiii which did them egregiously by selling them separately but at least it had them
>>567283697Seems like a bad idea that discards both identity and the feeling of a serious samurai duel. Even if you really were committed to the former, I'd just have ancestral versions of a few other SNK characters. There is an old Mai, and making centuries older Kusanagi that either uses hand weapons that allow boxing-like strikes or the actual sword might work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_L1QRMgIY0Jenet is hitting the big leagues
>>567525474>State of Survival>not Leona
>>567525474finally, jenet looks female again
>use fatal fury characters>but the collab is with kofxvlol it's been a year so prep time/licensing is not an excuse
>>567525474If they’re using Jenet and Mai, wouldn’t it make more sense for the collaboration to be with COTW instead of KOF XV?
>>567528139you don't understand choosing which ip license to use development
>>567526848>>567528139They didn't want to use CotW Mai, maybe?
>>567525474lol the state of snk
>>567528852That, but unironically.
>>567525474tell me I can play for free
when the FUCK is mr karate coming out
>>567544136Probably in a week. SNK have been cutting it really close with the monthly shit since every drop has been in the 20s
>>567544136Who cares. I want Tsugumi.
>>567513892Isn't that what the new story mode is
I hate every online Krauser nigger doing the same fucking shit and getting carried
>>567559649Been saying this since he was out and nobody was listening
>>567560458Only like 3 people in this thread actually play the game
>>567548943Same week as Ingrid? Might as well shadow drop him tomorrow if they don't care about him then.
>>567562092it wouldn't matter either way, mr karate ain't drawin anybody smdh robert in a mask like he has any real pull
>>567544136Can't wait for his stage.
>>56752813927 years of curating a KOFonly generation of players and fans. Most people calling themselves SNK fans are just KOF fans. They might like or know about Metal Slug and SamSho, but they're not into SNK as a whole. Same with people calling themselves Capcom fans, but only like Street Fighter.
>>567563702>Same with people calling themselves Capcom fans, but only like Street Fighterironic because street fighter at least isn't even their most popular series today compared to monster hunter and res eviland you can't even say this comment was limited to fgs because you mentioned metal slug
>>567528139You guys still don't understand that COTW is fucked PR wise, at least for the it's remaining lifespan. No one wants to do collabs with it unless it was already planned before the game came out.
>>567565718Hey, I like you when doomposting is at least fun, yeah, make it cool.And your post is booooring
>>567567646look we can try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit but you're asking for a miracle with regards trying to make anything having to do with snk seem fun
>>567568303You know I talk about you.
>>567569445many are saying this unlike with snk
>>567567646What?
Would be kino if Aerith gets added to CotW.
>>567573769but whyshe is boring even in her own game
If every fighting game is gonna have a mandatory FF guest character, there's only one character I would respect SNK for if they put in
i want to review and audit snk's source code
>>567575696Based.
>tfw all the /neog/ posters are too busy actually playing SNK games to bump
harada-san you have one job
>>567585809yeah i'm glad all 3 remaining neog posters are busy playing the game and somehow are not asking for tips on how to deal with each others bullshit because they're that into it
>>567573769Rinoa is better
>>567594757X-3 can't come soon enough.
>>567595641
>>567596412Exactly. It's honestly super funny.
New patch. Probably for the Krauser glitch.
Birb, my beloved
>>567604431HOL UP
It's not just about using it or not, but how you use it. I guess.
>>567609227Devs don't care if we like it or not, they'll use it anyway
>>567156492>>567206945Harada joins SNK?!?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZTF2QfYwgWhat game will he make?
>>567614115KOF: Maximum Impact but with Idolmaster girls.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQWSnO4Su8
>>567614115
>>567614115SNK idolm@ster
>>567619826>serious bowling gameFor some reason Messi, David Guetta and Mai.
https://x.com/jm_newbreed/status/2057055654226116628Dunno what this guy’s source is. And with the NEOGEO thing, does he mean an snk ip?
awroooo
>>567575878Found it!!
Tokon saving ArcSys
>>567647080I doubt that it would be THAT popular.Then again, I think that the interest in Invincible VS is anomalous, so what do I know.
AoF4 saving SNK
>>567649696Not cute and funny enough
>>567650369Characters need to grow up at some point, anon.
SNK Heroines 2 will save SNK
>>567652343Fake and gay.It's fiction, you can do whatever.
>>567612857This. Remember when certain forums would ban people for saying "lazy devs". Bet they're all saying it now, the fuckers. Modern devs will always, allllllwaaays take the short cut if they think they'll get away with it.
I want to see those two dorks again.
I've been watching some video about fighting games and to llustrate some points SF6 footage was used. I was a little bit out of it, but I literally couldn't recognize Mai in it because of how I'm much more used seeing her in a more anime artstyle. It was a crazy realization honestly.
>>567671308Same. Can't wait for KoFXVI or an other kind of a game with SNK characters that could include them.
>>567671308Isla is going to fuck his brains out
More KoFXV DLC would be nice...
>>567609227It's not just about using it or not, but who is using it.>my favorite game developerIt's inevitable companies use the technology at their disposal.>not my favorite companyCHUDS!
Why can't we have her back? Is Oda GAY??
>>567684592She will be in Ikari Warriors 4
>>567642347kek it really do be like thatlooks like my audit job is done
>>567652343yeah that's what we said until xiii yuri happened where she looked younger than kula>>567683165the mistake made is if you do something, own up to it and move on or commit or lean into it even and say fuck you critics, but if you do what snk did, you just look like a cowardly cuck pussy bitch who bends over for anyone but someone logical
Why would you release a balance/bug fix patch a a week before a character drop, why not just release it with the character drop
>>567575696This is legit the only good answer.
but an answer that wouldn't really sell anythingnot that anyone cares as long as they have their friends and family to play withworks on their machine afterall
>>567694723Combo Breaker is this weekend with SWC points at stake.
>when snk makes a mistake and tries to fix it >>>/pw/20464414
>>567575696This game is like cotw, only flopped because it looked ugly. It had a strong marketing because of the memes, final fantasy ip, the people who played it liked it and praised it. It still didn’t sell.
>>567698769>"Now, SNK! Attack!">SNK:
>>567706290snk thought they meant att-ACK!
>>567706636K'ek
New Samsho by Harada
>>567708097
>>567708097Hibiki vs Earthquake
>>567708097That's Jim Sterling, the fat, faux-trans, Mereghi rip off streamer, by the way.
>>567694723>>567698648Because they care more about esports and what streamers think than anything else. That's why fgs have gone down. The Krauser bug was fixed in less than 4 days. Now look how slow they've been to fix other shit.
>>567709513It's a shame that SNK never made Samsho vs Last Blade, even in the 2D era.
https://www.reddit.com/r/virtuafighter/comments/1tje7vv/virtua_fighter_vi_crossroads_leaked_video/can harada even compete?
>>567717267>Cielo ....really? Japanese developers are truly creatively bankrupt. He looks like some thug minion you defeat in any 3D beat n up game. It's crazy after so much waiting, they come up with such a generic character design. Also, God help Sega if this guy replaces Vanessa.Anyway, the gameplay looks good (literally VF5 2.0, which is great). The animations are very fluid and the attacks have a deep impact. I liked it. Harada will definitely take inspiration from this.
https://x.com/i/status/2057280216481837407Finally, a crossover that would appeal to younger generations....in a mobile game.
>>567723352the hell am i looking at
>>567724571Dandadan collab
>>567724829oh, it's the thing with this bitch i saw all over /a/ for a whilebut it's snk so it'll probably just be only the nerd guy for sausaging
>>567706290>>567706636lol
>>567717267Assuming they maintain gameplay standards, VF6 would've been the #1 3D game in the old fighting game world just off that and those grapihcs. But we'll see how it does in the modern pozzed "FGC" where it's all about liars, scammers, and streaming.
>>567717267>>567718665Yeah we always shit on snk, but this cielo guy looks even worse than vox. VF guys fell to the VF is supposed to be realistic meme. You gotta give it to Tekken, they make 3d characters but also make them cool.
R.I.P Daimon's voice actor.
>>567725058I just realized she and Shun'ei basically have the same power.
>>567726316F
https://x.com/KOFstudio_en/status/2057446313810141267hey remember this costume that you don't get to use in our current game
>>567738068Oda is gay
>>567738068Current game? KoF's current game is still XV though?>From the iconic game series THE KING OF FIGHTERS
>>567723352What would a team Dandadan be?>Okarun/Momo/Aira>Okarun/Momo/Jiji>Okarun/Momo/Seiko>Okarun/Momo/That new alien girl from S2 idk I haven't seen it yet>>>
Nobody cares tourist
>>567746173Turbo granny / Seiko / and momo of course
Terry: "Hey, Andy. Blow Joe."
Why do SNK fans always think about random gay scenarios out of nowhere? Can't you fags go one day without thinking about dudes pounding dudes?
Does anyone have that screenshot where Oda straight up lies about Kyo having alternate costumes in KOFXV
>>567723352I remember when All Star did collabs with Gintama and Seven Deadly Sins the latter because netmarble did a SDS mobile game which also had a KOF collab.
>>567760690People can't check out your imagination, oniisan
>>567772790No need to check imagination when there’s video evidence recorded, oniisan~
>>567778192Just fuck already!
>>567717267Yes. In 2029 with new Samsho.
>>567779324I already hate the camera.
>>567778192Non-canon KoF ship.At best Charlotte wanting to fuck Haohmaru tier.
>>567786910Motion sickness?
>>567779324Pai's new costume is literally just SF6 Chun but green
>/neog/ - SNK, other FGs, some animes and gay shit
>>567778363How did Takuma allow Robert to take over the Mr Karate identity?
>>567795862Anon, Takuma is a grumpy granpa in a retirement home.
>>567744305least marked snk dff
>>567758316why do you think snk is all about sausagesyou guys are closet homo while pretending to be chads but whine about capcom every now and then>>567777589lmao anon got btfo so hard he couldn't say anything in response
>>567805931how dare you say that about me.
>>567760690>>567777589>>567805931It wasn't Oda the one lying though, it was Ogura https://youtu.be/OEGudn2SuA0?si=OrugXZLtMOjhRMdT
>>567777589It goes how it always goes>It's still coming! >They confirmed it! >Be patient! >So entitled! >They never said that!
How long until SNK runs out of ideas and starts using obscure rejected character concepts to add to the roster?
CB in 3 hours
>>567834445Ash was a rejected design repurposed by Falcoon.
I hope they implement this level of animation for the next game.https://x.com/jagar001/status/2057634426331484229Together with VF they would be ahead everyone
>>567819185yeah, you're right, oda didn't say it himself, but he was right next to the guy who did in that very video and allowed it to slide on byhe is guilty by association
>>567866670I love PUTA
>>567881365K'ek
>>567846350Hmm... now you've got me wondering if many of the "another" versions are actually inspired by rejected designs from KoF/neogeo games.
>>567883957Dunno, but that said, Lien's normal design is suspiciously similar to Saya's from SamSho Warriors Rage PS1.
>>567884989The plot chickens
(raughs)
>>567885546Both are vaguely British orphans that were trained to be assassins too.The main difference is that one is a fairly sweet person who thinks of others and the other does the femme fatale schtick while concerning primarly with herself.
>>567853982Is it possible to make porn with mocap? Blue Mary's dog is asking.
>>567886234Cuties NEVER EVER
>>567888080I truly despise how MotW got a proper sequel, while SamSho is doomed to only get prequels, midquels and dream matches.
>>567888594Most attempts to "follow up" SamSho II just seem to bury the franchise further while the prequels are genuinely all successes for SNK standards. Extremely weird phenomenon
>>567889020There were four attempts.Two are on HNG64 (with one of them having NGP port). Non-starter.One is a PS1 exclusive, made by people who weren't good enough with PS1 hardware and had a weird round system.One is a weird, arcade and Xbox only game made by reusing Pachinko assets IIRC.All of them are pretty fucking obscure with limited number of people being able to try and give them a fair shake in the first place.Another good point of discussion would be why exactly SNK decided to move on to making midquels between SS2 and SS64 and prequels after PS1 WR. Because it honestly makes sense.
>>567892513It's just generally safer and you can have all the classic heads without needing to expand upon their stories. Part of why Capcom refused to surpass SFIII because "reinventing" the characters is more difficult than just portraying them as they usually are. You just introduce new characters while main characters like Haohmaru, Nakoruru or Shiki remain the exact same because their major story beats haven't happened yet. Fighting games encourage this behavior, people get mad when characters are changed, often justifiably like Strive just completely altering character motivation entirely as "character development" that wasn't actually hinted at in prior installments. SamSho's just unlucky because outside of KOF being SNK's safest series, SamSho is usually next in line to promote new hardware or concepts altogether
>>567873982
>>567889020Partially because Samsho wasn't planned to have more games after the second entry.
Story wise, isn't Samsho II just samsho I with more characters?
>>567899590Most games aren't, SNK are just kings of writing themselves into corners>>567901004It should be but for whatever reason SNK wrote Nakoruru becoming one with nature so it's seen as kind of the finale of the story despite the fact the Hyper Neo Geo 64 games bring back Nakoruru anyway. SamSho's story is almost completely negligible outside of 3 and 4, ironically the first batch of midquel games that take place between 1 and 2. 5 was a prequel to the entire series for the MVS hardware simply because all of the 3D installments were massive bombs so they figured "back to basics" was a good idea. 6 is a dream match that takes place after all the Neo Geo games, before the 3D games yet still isn't canonSamSho in particular seems to have issues telling a serious story but also backtracking and not going through with its ideas more so than any of SNK's other properties while simultaneously still committing to them like how Shiki's entire story in 2019 is filler because she was supposed to wake up during the 3D era, not before the first game
>>567895320That's partially true, but on other hand, you can always do dream matches, add "ghosts" of non-canon characters, etc.Remember when Shikyoh died in Last Blade 1 and Last Blade 2 returned him as Mukuro?Well, Gen'an actually got randomly resurrected in SamSho 2 after getting killed in SamSho 1. Nakoruru became an Ainu nature spirit (Korpokkur), but it was shown that she can return.Not to mention the entire Nightmare Geese thing.In short, it is a skill/bravery issue. I think a big problem that SamSho had for a long time is lack of representation in KoF (and/or failure of NGBC), which would allow the progression of story without being tied into having to be faithful to the "canon".
>>567902132>5 was a prequel to the entire series for the MVS hardware simply because all of the 3D installments were massive bombs so they figured "back to basics" was a good idea.5? You mean the game that they outsourced to some small obscure studio? The one that was recycling sprites from the old games? The one that was called 0 in Japan? Made in 2003, cheap, to capitalize on Playmore reclaiming SNK? That 5?There's a lot more context to why 5 is the way it is, okay? 3D SamSho games weren't massive bombs in vacuum either, as they are decent to good games that are stupidly hard to play.SNK really needs to make a Hyper Neo-Geo 64 Collection or something.
>>567909016Ironically I'd argue the opposite, SamSho avoiding KOF for 30 years allowed SamSho to develop its own identity and be its own franchise because it wasn't just getting its popular characters yoinked out of it and dumped into KOF. That's what killed Fatal Fury and especially Art of Fighting. Their skill/bravery issue stems from the fact SamSho is their #2 franchise altogether and they need to portray it with tact compared to their other IPs, especially given KOF wasn't really a graphics/hardware showcase after 1996 and became a yearly tradition based on reusing assets until they finally needed to make the jump to "modern" hardware with XIBut SNK does respect their canon enough to not necessarily do stupid shit all the time. SamSho is the main exception when it comes to sequels, because outside of fringe spinoffs Fatal Fury, AOF, Last Blade and even KOF have never gone backwards like SamSho have. You can tell they have specific visions for these IPs in mind that aren't about detail, but more so about how to portray them>>567910541Implying they still even have the source code which would be the main problem. Hyper Neo Geo 64 itself was a MASSIVE bomb and only had like 6-7 games made for it tops, and was hardware that was usually too technical to emulate right. Those games were supremely inaccessible even back then, let alone nowadays. It doesn't help right now SNK aren't even bothering to make real collections or ports of their old stuff (fuck you KK for saying SNK is the "progenitors" of archival when all you fuckers have are Neo Geo games)And yes almost like you repeated a point I was making about SamSho V to begin with. There was no reason to return to MVS hardware outside of cheap costs, easy and safe development and making something extremely accessible after SNK's bankruptcy. A normal studio with even a bit of budget would not have been using hardware made in 1991 to release a 2003 game to begin with
>>567911859I disagree with the framing that it is just Fatal Fury and AoF that died. SNK died as a whole, KoF was just the only fighting game franchise to keep going despite the ongoing apocalypse, but even that wasn't without certain caveats (see what happened to the second half of NESTS games and the entire Ash Saga + the MI stuff as well as other weirdness such as Sky Arena).I'll also add that they actually reinvented SamSho multiple times, even in 2D days. 3 is more serious in tone and they changed the gameplay quite a bit. 4 added Shura / Bust system as well as finalized changes started in 3. 6 became somewhat a clownfiesta of a game by SamSho standards, despite being 2D. It's not like they were playing safe, if anything SamSho was always incredebly inconsistant, much more so than KoF, even keeping in mind Strikers and Tag.By the way, speaking of SNK respecting canon? They made Ryo younger in Buriki One and inserted sequel characters in Wild Ambition. I guess those are among the games that you called fringe spinoffs, but this also depends on the perspective. Late SNK really needed to get into 3D games and they bet a lot on HNG64. From their view, they could've considered SamSho 64 1-2, Buriki One and Wild Ambition their vision of their fighting franchises future, while Last Blade 1-2, AoF3 and MotW were the weird spinoffs.>and was hardware that was usually too technical to emulate rightThis always was a shitty excuse. A lot of people were saying this about Atari Jaguar and arcade version of Mortal Kombat 4, but suddenly both became available to be included in various re-releases.SNK could always hire (the omega based) M2 to make a HNG64 emulator for their use. Those guys can also be hardcore enough to hack in additional stuff (meaning they can likely add PS1 exclusive characters to arcade Wild Ambition).I agree that SNK could treat their back catalogue a lot better. I'm pretty sure that some of their games are still sold as old shitty Dotemu releases.
>nobody watching KOF15 combo breakerWhy are you like this
>>567915981>3 is more serious in tone and they changed the gameplay quite a bit. 4 added Shura / Bust system as well as finalized changes started in 3Disregard the obvious mistake here, it was a brainfart. 4 did differ from 3, but it wasn't what I stated.
>>567916189I do. Kaiser has a good chance to win a major. Let see how good is MadKOF plot armor.
Um.Anyway. Maybe from losers.
>>567923431Kim diff
Nerf Yashiro and O.YashiroBuff Ralf and Clark
oh no no no kaiserinohombres
끝났어
I'm cheering for the argentinian edgelord over the fatass with blm in his name
Congrats to Layec.
>>567915981>and was hardware that was usually too technical to emulate rightwait someone legit said this about an snk product? lol
>>567931934Hyper Neo-Geo 64 IS hard to emulate, or at least that is what the lazy ass MAME developers working on 3D capable arcade cabinets were saying and it IS likely true to a degree.My point is that being hard to emulate is a far cry from being impossible to emulate. And that is besides the emulation not needing to be cycle accurate and that with a limited number of games you can cheat with the implementation by making game specific hacks.However that is still a hassle and of a low interest for both the community and therefore to SNK as well.
>>567934956Yeah that's kind of the key difference in difficulty not actually meaning it's impossible. It requires interest in being able to at least replicate the hardware enough and right now the main reason it's not accessible despite it being almost 30 years old is really due to that lack of interest. Again, only 6 games are available for the hardware so people need to be able to replicate tech that hasn't really been touched in 3 decades all for a niche playerbase that'll try the games and then swiftly lose interest since the board flopped for a reasonIt's not like Sega where people actually do give a shit about the brand
>>56793495699% of the reason most likely isn't the technicality but availability and access and interest, which you even admit, that's not particularly suggesting anything about the level of tech in the hardware thobeit
>>567936318It's 90s proprietary hardware, it's not advanced or beyond comprehension. The reason we said it's too technical to emulate right is because the lack of interest in streamlining its accessibility means only people who know what the fuck they're doing would be able to replicate it. All hardware and software is capable of being reverse engineered, but without people interested in doing that then the difficulty comes in from the accessibility of tools and knowledgeBut let's be real, LOTS of late-90s hardare barely has been worked on. Saturn and N64 are still far beyond a lot of 6th generation emulation in terms of quality, and at least those HAVE emulators. It's just not as high quality as other accessible emulators. Meanwhile Hyper NG64 has basically nothing
>>567937763>The reason we said it's too technical to emulate rightwell yeah i got this and that's why i'm saying it shouldn't have been said like that just because of those aforementioned reasons which we agreed upon, because it just makes it sound like it's too advanced like alien technology when worded like that
>>567938934Well, it IS alien technology. Just not advanced
>>567939426
>>567604431this guys art got worse over the years
>>567935729All it actually requires is paying a dev that specializes in the shit like that once. You get it done and rake a small, but continuous stream of revenue afterwards, because from time to time you do see people go>Yo, have you guys heard of Buriki One, my favourite youtuber told me that this game is a crazy experience unlike anything else>Bros, I kinda want to check where Shiki is from>HOLY SHIT, Beast motherfucking Busters got a sequel!Well, the last one is just me, but the rest are correct.Investing into a permanent expansion of the back catalogue is a winning strategy. Do you think that Capcom making all those arcade and other kinds of collections is because they are bleeding hearts that love their fans? No, what they love is complete randoms seeing the games on some vtuber's stream and wanting to try them out.
yeah like how people wanted to try out cotw after watching it on some random vtuber's stream
>>567947137CotW specifically is complicated, especially with how it is still actively supported, but I unironically do see people getting interested in KoFXV.
>>567947137Over the last 5 months, I've seen much, much more "just bought cotw" than I ever did for kof xv. But it's anecdotal
>>567948436yeah it's also now 20 dollars for a base package as it should have been priced
https://x.com/FATALFURY_PR/status/2057808701227237380Aw, c'mon
>>567949851Remember, no charge!
>>567949851
>>567949851I don't get the point of these teasers. We already know he's coming, just post the damn release date and gameplay already
>>567955970 You don't know teaser development
>>567955970I don't get why they only posted a teaser for him 2 weeks ago instead of a full trailerI like Robert, but it's just Robert, no need for all this forced fanfare around him
>>567649696Yuri in an outfit that doesn't accentuate her butt feels blasphemous
>>567795862It's only in KOF where he's a comic relief cuck who watches Yuri get creamed by her brotherIn AOF he's an equal rival to Ryo, protagonist of his own game in AOF3 and also Yuri moves in with him when he leaves the country at the end of that one
>>567961285and this seems perfect for Oda/Snk current mindset of "less fanservice = better"
>>567968520seems to also fit his mindset of "less sales = better"
>>567958129People would be more hyped if it were Ryo
And here it ishttps://youtu.be/WFdeTAz-Ca4?si=8L0QGiSRuZSU2I9xhttps://youtu.be/ECwujOmoRow?si=0O097pjaFUEHlm4M
>>567978721They're definitely cutting it close with these monthly releases
>>567978721Ngl, I never really cared about Robert but that trailer was swaggy as fuck.
>>567978721He looks cool, the hell is that dash?Robert's one of the guys I usually end up sticking with in KOF, hope these changes trickle down into the next one
>>567978721Graphics update incoming? Why does it look like that
>>567982114>in-game still looks the exact same it always has beenWhat do you think?
>>567978721So any reason why the game can't look like this?
>>567983118>>567982734I'd rather they didn't bother showing that they can hypothetically make the game look like that (assuming SNK's too incompetent to make it run smoothly when it's like that) because now I'm just annoyed lol
>>567978721>Another vastly inferior and uglier version of an older stage>Weird-looking CG animation at the start and end>Unironically releasing only a day before Ingrid, who 95% of people that play Fighting Games are more hyped about and will be playing instead YIKES it's like SNK is begging to be seen as inferior, and get themselves severely overshadowed(like always nowadays).
>>567984434They shouldn't have attempted to make so many new stages during this one character a month thing, it's clearly impacting the quality of themI think this stage looks ok (not great, not terrible either) but Krauser's one with everyone in the background standing still pisses me off every time I see it
>>567978721I'm amazed the English dub gave him an Italian accent.
>>567983118>>567978721by far the best new stage, possibly the best stage overall
>>567982114>Why does it look like thatIt's ran through an AI filter
>>567989143It's mocap.
>>567983118If it’s really in-game, then they’re probably teasing a future graphical update.
Imagine if the game was delayed just 1 year, we could’ve had all dlc characters, new story mode, alt costumes, possibly enhanced graphics, all at release. SNK shot themselves in the foot.
>>567983118Because this one is AI or in-game graphics with AI filter
>>567978721Oh, shit! It's Robert from King of Fighters.
>>567997125Shut up you retard
soulless vs soul
>using Ryo's theme from Fatal Fury SpecialWell at least it's in the game for when Ryo comes out
Please tell me Robert isn't a charge character again.
>>567968918Yeah. Let's take Marvel Rivals as an example. The graphics aren't cutting-edge, but the animations are very good and there's a strong focus on fanservice. Mix all that with a popular franchise and an easy-to-play multiplayer game, and voila: success. Then, SNK's graphics aren't cutting-edge either, the animations aren't great, and the franchise isn't popular. It's a fighting game that isn't easy to play. The only "weapon" left is fanservice. And they didn't use it. It's almost like they don't care if the game is a success or not. The way they think is truly bizarre.
>>567999332I like charge Robert, especially in Kof XI and NGBC. But there's no way, there's barely any charge characters in this game or most Fatal Fury games past FF2/FFS.
>>567998391Fuck you, Oda. Remember that it's your fault for that AI trailer.
>>567949851Why do this if you're going to post the trailer the same day, snk? lol
>>567998614I don't like how it looks like the background dude's shadows aren't being cast by their bodies which makes it look like they're just floating there. Maybe it would have helped if the texture for the floor had more distinction between the boards to make it not look so flat. Also doesn't have any neat lighting effects since its during the day instead of sunset like the 02um ver but I don't expect modern SNK to be able to utilize proper lighting anyway
>>567997125That looks totally doable though
>>567978721His lightning legs look off.
>>568000208This was posted yesterday
>>567999595And no Terry doesn't count because of his rising tackle. It's kind of funny though that even then some games(mainly kof) turned rising tackle into a shoryuken command
>>567998614They REALLY need to stop with the ugly-ass background NPCs in their modern stuff. Both in KOF 15 and COTW. They make the already not that great looking stages look even worse. The NPCs in COTW look like weird golem-creatures too. Ironically, KOF 14 has the best-looking background NPCs out of all of modern SNK's games. They have a good amount of detail, and they don't move at like 10FPS(like in KOF15/COTW for some reason) which helps a lot. There's also not that many, which also probably helps in them not being an ugly distraction.
>>568004091Even 13 had weird-looking fat fucks in the background of every stage for some reason
>>568004252That's an artstyle thing and it was only in like 2 or 3 stages. The problem with their 3D NPCs is that they look terrible from a technical standpoint.
>>567998614The mountain background looks so fake it feels like a wallpaper. Bad job.
>>567997125Surely you have a source to back this up and are just not pulling it out of your ass anon.
>>568004091I miss the older 2d background characters. This is from one of Iori's old stages look at these fuckin scummy ass bums I love them
I converted a lot of SNK stages to MUGEN and noticing the personality they gave to random ass characters in the backgrounds of their stages(particularly from like Kof 96 on and for Fatal Fury like FF3 and on) is ridiculous. Fatal Fury has reoccuring background characters that I think have names and backstories and everything. Of course none of them are in CotW.
>>568005830Is that a loli on the right wearing a school swimsuit?
>>567998614Harada pls save us
City of the gays
>>567998614Was the monthly character releases worth it?
>>567980546Why does Yuri make Ryo to feel her tit?
>>568016274This is my fetish.
https://youtu.be/6nUCRU19rIU?si=RYmgyva1LHUjhGPM>Stealing moves from Ryo too Shameful
>>568020515All I gather from this is that Ryo would have a shake up as well.
>All the Americans actually playing interesting and different characters>All the Mexicans and Asians just playing(abusing) the same ol' 4/5 unga Top tier braindead charactersExpected. Only Americans have souls.
>>568020515Wait a minute! There's no way Desk could have made, edited, and posted that reference video so quickly. Did SNK show him the trailer a few days ago so he could make the video and release it at the same time as the trailer? Well, if that's the case, it was a good marketing move, I admit.
>>568024648Him and Orpheus have been sponsored to make videos for them ever since last year. Course, begs the question why they don't just pay them to make trailers outright instead of releasing the same shitty 5 seconds of gameplay followed by 10 seconds of EoST menus
>>568024143Holy thiccness, Batman.
>>568025148Oh, okay. I only realized this now.
BODEGA
>>568024143I really wanna play Chun but I dont wanna pay for the entirety of S1>but it was freeNot for me who bought the game when it went to $20 last month
I wonder what they have in mind for Art of Fighting 4there's no notable cult demand for it like there was for a Garou sequel, it's gonna need to stand out more
>>568027223Honestly, I feel like a new AoF game can stand out by tapping into the classic identity. SNK failed to do this with CotW and Fatal Fury (which is at least partially because they had to work up from MotW).A game that plays like AoF2, but with expanded roster, better feeling inputs and minimal new mechanics. A new fighting game that is actually old school with only slight careful modernizations where it makes sense and as long as they don't contradict the original feel. It can work.
>>567983118If their stages had good lighting like this, the bad looking NPCs wouldn't stand out too much. It's how Street Fighter hides them. The bar stage for example looks great, but most of the outdoor ones don't because of it.A lighting update like XIV got would actually be great.
>>568026494That's unfortunate, summer steam sales will be in the next monthOr maybe you can fin a super cheap cd key.>>568027223>>568028854The first thing they should do is remove the 4 from the title. Fans already know (and we don't care).The concept of an old venerable series coming alive after 35 years don't work. It is not marketable. They did this with COTW and here we are.Also we need a new artstyle. The art that started with KOFXIV needs to end here. I am the first one who like it and the first one who will defend it. But people don't like it. I can't point what it is but it is not attracting crowds.
>>568035752It's probably a reboot like Samsho, not 5. They already said it would be in the 70s
>>568035947>not 4*
>>567958129>no need for all this forced fanfare around himyou don't understand needless trailer development
>>568005830love that midriff with club-hat girl swaying her hips
>>568035947Even better. The only doubt if that means not Yuri and a limited roster.Furthermore, the first AoF is clearly a product of the kyokushinkai craze that swept through 80s Japan. I don't know how that spirit translates to the 202X era.Go1 and Reynald are amazing.
>>568024143White Americans*
>>568035752>The first thing they should do is remove the 4 from the title. Fans already know (and we don't care).They should remove 4 from the title, because in Japan AoF3 was a side story and not a numbered title. Ryuuko no Ken 3 / Art of Fighting 4 would be confusing as fuck.>The concept of an old venerable series coming alive after 35 years don't work. It is not marketable. They did this with COTW and here we are.It is marketable, but it doesn't automatically sell a gajillion copies. See SamSho (2019), it did convey what kind of game it is perfectly.With CotW though, it barely feels like a series return, as it is much more of a MotW sequel with modern reimagined mechanics than a celebration of everything Fatal Fury, despite bringing in the throwback 2-lane / ring out stages.>Also we need a new artstyle. The art that started with KOFXIV needs to end here. I am the first one who like it and the first one who will defend it. But people don't like it. I can't point what it is but it is not attracting crowds.I loosely get what you mean, but I doubt that the crowds get the similarities between all the SNK modern games. From a normalfag standpoint CotW style is distinct from the one that was in KoFXIV.And honestly, if you ask me, I wouldn't trust SNK to start again from the ground up rather than refining and remixing what they already got, seeing how the reception of the visuals actually does improve from the game to game.
>>568037882>>568035752I don't understand how the KOFXIV is similar to what they have now to you all. Unless you mean XV.
https://x.com/i/status/2058276180269187426#SNKSponsored
>>568039697Lmao nobody likes this company. I think they ask for premium to not say it’s advertised and snk refuses. Because everyone knows capcom also pays creators and they never do this shit, because everyone wants to be on their good side to receive free games.
>>568040356>Lmao nobody likes this company.many are saying thisso i could say, but lol like 10 people at all even pay them any mind
>>568039556Case in point.I'm not an art person myself, so I wouldn't be able to explain it either, but if I had to anyway, I'd say that SNK models and texturing are similar in all of their new 3D games since KoF14, but lighting and shaders completely change how they look, or something like that.Which is why I doubt that it is a big problem that needs radical solution. The reasons why SNK games quote unquote ""failed"" lie elsewhere.
In case he hasn't been posted yet, from AFK
>>568042128>All Star died for that