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Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves: Legends Edition Now Available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ur8WYwB0k
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2492040/FATAL_FURY_City_of_the_Wolves/
>Season 2 January 22
https://youtu.be/tqe1RBmJ9S8
>KRAUSER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4ceRh4zn0Y
>KENSHIRO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACnFBb_RAfw
>Community resources
http://dreamcancel.com/how-to-play/ https://wiki.supercombo.gg/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zg8H1AgpgPBbAdpPdsGC3WRUEmGVajbv2Ea6b-FZ1kI/edit?gid=0#gid=0
>DandyJ's beginner guide to KOF
https://youtu.be/Ye3KVgI1LvU
>KOFXV beginner guides
https://youtu.be/t-mYZnOFxlg
https://youtu.be/cqTpKMethDo
>KOF XV Grand Final SNK World Championship 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_og0dUoTlFc
>/neog/ Discord: https://discord.gg/HYAQYFh
>Official SNK Discord:
https://discord.gg/SNK
>KOFXV Discord
https://discord.gg/mePUQup755
>SNK Media Gallery
https://pastebin.com/R7uX3B5J
>Assorted Translations
https://kof.eu5.org/
>NEO-GEO FREAK Magazine Archive https://archive.org/details/@japanesemagazinesscans?sort=titleSorter&&and[]=subject%3A%22neo_geo_freak%22
>RedGGPO and romset
https://redggpo.com/
https://archive.org/details/2020_01_06_fbn
>KOF Official Site backup
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n98CoBR6GPywr3kzyydNCT5UHTwMNW51/view

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Ryo is gay
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>>567158747
fuck.
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>>567158747
can't wait to see what the numbers look like for cotw
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>>567159115
Millions
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>>567159608
of atomic particles that make up one person
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>>567158747
Harada's new game will be in the top 10
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>>567161160
>not a single fighting game
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>>567143003
>samurai did not have as big of a trend in usa like ninja did in the 80s, the capital of cool in the world
And I already explained that, I’m talking from the perspective of Japanese that never saw ninjas cooler than Samurai. But for some reason you want to discard the source and focus on America calling it muh capital of cool as if this makes your point any valid. Inherently flawed.
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>>567162254
People like guns. People like shooting things. You just sit, pick up the controller and play instantly. No need to watch an hour-long tutorial. Very addictive. If you lose, you can just blame your team...

Yeah. It's no surprise to see these types of games among the most played.
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>>567163484
it's your fault that the regional discussion even started because i certainly didn't bring it up first when the initial comment was simply that ninjas just weren't cool enough for their own game, which didn't say "ninjas weren't cool enough in japan" as if that was supposed to excuse a game failing to be at samsho levels of appeal (it didn't)
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>>567162254
That's why I said Oda made a big mistake with Cotw. He wasn't thinking of SNK as a AAA company, he was thinking of himself. Otherwise, he would have done something like "Metal Slug meets Counter-Strike" while continuing to update KOF15 (and could even have included the "epic" conclusion of the Garou 2 story there). Now let's hope Harada does things right, sells millions, and saves Oda's ass from the Saudis.
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>>567166358
The most fun we had in metal slug was riding those vehicles, turning it into an fps doesn’t make sense
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>>567166926
*ahem*
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>>567167165
when you ride a vehicle in metal slug you shoot people not other tanks
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Mr. Karate.
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>>567167256
Hmm, yes? I know. I'm giving an example. So you don't want to imagine, adapt, and transform it in your mind?

Alright, I'll do it for you. In each match, a random player from each team will control the Metal Slug, and the rest of the players are soldiers. The tank has about thirty times more HP than a soldier. However, when it's destroyed, the match ends. If a soldier dies, it respawns a few seconds later.

There you go, Oda. I've given you a good idea for a Metal Slug multiplayer game for free, since your brain is full of sausages and incapable of thinking that way. Thank me later.
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>>567168717
you will just repeat the mistake of overwatch, where all other players become npcs and the tank is the main character, and this also makes the tank unfun because you always get blamed for the loss
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>>567168968
Honestly, considering everything Overwatch has achieved since the beginning, even with this "mistake," it seems like they won the lottery in the end. If SNK had only achieved 20% of Overwatch's success with a multiplayer game, this "mistake" would still be worthwhile. I mean, better that than making a much worse mistake of continuing to insist on fighting games.
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>>567171387
>If SNK had only achieved 20% of Overwatch's success
Here's your mistake you're looking at it from snk's perpesctive, which is indeed true, overwatch was never a failure, but it could've been so much bigger, something like LoL or COD or Fortnite, now it's just another fps game, it's why people call it a failure. It's like losing the chance to become a corporation and settling for a regional company.
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>SNK is bringing back dormant series
"........................................................................."
>Capcom is bring back dormant series
"LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
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>>567171387
>I mean, better that than making a much worse mistake of continuing to insist on fighting games.
This is common sense but it's something oda lacks, because he operates based on nostalgia and emotion. He wants to make something bigger than SF, because he feels inferiority complex, he will keep trying forever.
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>>567171891
tbf all of snks dormant series were arcade games and fighting games, also snk never had userbase in the ps2 era which is what most players grew up with. You can't compare that to Capcom.
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Oda is gay, woke and retard.

Joe will never win ;_;

Seriously, why?
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>>567171932
>He wants to make something bigger than SF, because he feels inferiority complex, he will keep trying forever.
That's true. The $4 million in prize money proves it. It's the only thing he can use to claim he's superior to Capcom.
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Blue Mary needs a break from Twitter
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>>567152489
I managed to do it with Krauser, guess Krauser is even more broken than input reading AI
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ShiBRAPui Mai
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CotW online is just a Krauser fest...it's no fun at all fighting NPCs who all play the same
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>>567178714
Not our fault that literally all of his combos are the same SAVOR THE PAIN
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>>567157427
>>567168497
30 years later and none of them managed to produce a Kyokugenryu heir. Poor Takuma never got any grandchildren. Maybe they really are gay.
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>>567172023
Arcade games got different genres
SNK had fighting games, beat 'em ups, shmups, run and guns, racing games, rail shooters, sports games, puzzle games, quiz games and beyond arcade they dabbled in RPGs, card games (SvC ones were cinema) and dating sims as well.
With only a little bit of rearrangement you can get plenty more genres out of it... or you can get Athena PS1 and Metal Slug 3D, those are always a possibility.
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Cat fight!
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>>567183608
>SNK had fighting games, beat 'em ups, shmups, run and guns, racing games, rail shooters, sports games, puzzle games, quiz games and beyond arcade they dabbled in RPGs, card games (SvC ones were cinema) and dating sims as well.
and none of those evolved to be console games, liek what capcom did, meaning you have to start over again, any arcade ip you use, will be just a name, the game is completely different.
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How come KOF 94 was called KOF 94.
It was the first one but they already knew they were going to make them yearly?
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That's just Ryo's gi
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nobody will line up for a new ikari warriors, because it was once a famous game, same thing happened for cotw. To the general public they're essentially new ips. But it would be compeltely different if Capcom announced God Hand 2.
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Unpopular opinion. I wouldn't mind SNK's current graphics if they simply released more games. Different games. Fun games. New IPs with original mechanics. Releasing for all platforms, including mobile devices. At least 3 games per year. I prefer that to waiting X years just to see their poor attempt to clone Stellar Blade or God of War.
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>>567185129
Some did. Some dodn't need particular console specific evolution. Some actually started on consoles (NGP is one, you know).
Speaking about Capcom, they barely use their arcade IPs outside of Street Fighter and extremely rare Makaimura games. When they tried to bring back Final Fight with Streetwise and Bionic Commando, they crashed hard.
I'm not saying that arcade games are unadaptable, btw (character action Sengoku reimagining would be true to its roots). Or that it is a problem for SNK that always made liberal use of their IP and focused more on characters rather than on gameplay (until 2010s).
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>>567186480
Exactly. Their games don't justify waiting a long time for when they look and launch with as much content as they do.
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>>567186184
K'ek, good one.
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>another episode of "let's copy a popular genre but with our ip"
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>>567189592
Crazy, huh?
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Hey, SNK...
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>>567189929
at least they tried to be novel with lanes here, they didn't commit to it and are now trying for the sf6 audience and only got like a handful of its pro players to care
every other suggestion is just put snk skins over overwatch or elden ring or mario kart or some shit smdh
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>>567190717
Okay. So why not do the same now? Choose something popular and add creative elements, like they did with the lanes? What's really stopping them, if they now have the money to do it? Remember. The prince said "back to the glory days." That means many games a year, not ONE_GAME.jpg
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>>567178714
My only problem after a month is that I still fall for the same frametraps and setplays and I'm only punishing about a third of what I should.

People will jump to the next character.
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>>567191859
>Okay. So why not do the same now? Choose something popular and add creative elements...The prince said "back to the glory days." That means many games a year, not ONE_GAME.jpg
ask them, because they're not actually doing any of that
>one lane stage
>one ringout stage
>one game
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>>567162254
Been telling you retards normal fucking people do not have interest in fighting games because of the supposed "depth" or "gameplay" being actively unappealing. You're NOT getting people to play arcade games in the big 2020s. It's like complaining "why is nobody playing space shmups???"
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King of Survivors WILL save the SNK!
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>>567195448
*if I wanted less money, Ikari Survivors works too
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>>567183626
KOF vs KEKKEN NEVER EVER
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>>567143721
Finished on Hardest at launch, but only recently started going for Arcade Nightmare Geese. I got to Fallen Rock, then lost 1 round. I was pissed lol
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>>567157427
Counterpoint. He prefers Kasumi.
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>>567189929
The whole point of this game was to be different from Street Fighter...
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>>567198932
The true beginning of SF was SF2 not 1, it's why bringing in Nishiyama to make a rival ultimately failed. SF1 was merely a prototype, it was never supposed to be a fighter, it's main idea was a boss rush, the other player served as ken who interrupts your single player campaign with identical moveset to take it away from you, basically DS invasion style. Nishiyama never wanted to make a fighter or had a special knack at it.
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>>567190201
I recall Infiltration having a short video making fun of KOFXV's graphics. And he did not have any interest in SNK games beyond SamSho 2019. And I don't think the Korean KOF/SNK scene messes with him.

While he's vaguely saying he'll play "fighting games", I'm just don't think he'll play anything but SF6 for the next 5 years.
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...............
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>>567203723
Bros... I think... AOF4... will be cancelled...
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>>567201271
If he doubled down on this instead of turning FF2 into a bootleg SFII, there could've been some appeal, but that would also require not making quarter munchers and SNK were greedy back then too so they were never going to beat Capcom at their own game
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>>567156492
Women who fuck psycopaths are not human (applies to Tekken Jun too).
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>>567203723
I keked audibly, weekly too not daily
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>>567206623
if he doubled down, it would become a beat em up series not a fighter. Unless you mean the lane mechanic. Yeah they should've tried to evolve the formula instead of just copying SFII
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>>567203723
>>567207192
I think it's time for Frieren collab to give this dead game a boost
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look we're not normalfags here, we don't view frieren as a hot waifu, stop shitting the thread and watch more anime.
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>>567203723
>>567207192
Now explain to me how anyone in their right mind could give a one million prize to a game with this kind of "performance"? Oda is a sociopath. Fire Oda now!

and hire Falcoon again.
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>>567209501
>and watch more anime.
That's much worse than saying "go jump off a cliff".
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Metal Slut anime when
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>>567206337
SNK has infinite money with their Saudi sugar daddy.
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>>567203723
Are you guys pretending to be retarded, or do you not know that that's fake? The new Playstation thing only concerns the Top 10 games in each country.
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>>567207897
>it would become a beat em up series not a fighter
That defeats the purpose of why Nishiyama invented the fighter. It was a boss rush game that skipped the mook padding. Instead of needing to punch through weak enemies until you get to the boss, you got cutscenes between each boss in FF1. It's an extremely fun idea

Instead we get SFII with lanes and a game that barely works. Sure they fixed it in Special, but SNK are the kings of their games being shit on launch
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>>567209672
I think Saudi has a seperate funding from esports, since they own it and want to make it a billion dollar business, meaning the prize money is independent of the game's budget or out of snk's own pockets. Of course I don't put it past Oda, but this is the most logical explanation.
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>>567212039
So what would an idea like that evolve to if it didn't become bootleg SFII?
it's why SNK should've never revived FF, KOF was their own authentic fighter other than SamShow that wasn't a SF clone like FF or AOF.
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>>567213880
It would require telling stories which SNK seems legitimately incapable of doing because any time they try, they just give up and copy their enemies. They tried to rerail Fatal Fury back to its intended purpose with Fatal Fury 3, but the troubled production + flop of FF3 led to them just shitting out Real Bout Dream matches for nearly half a decade afterwards until MotW fully killed Fatal Fury because turns out the SFIII idea wasn't going to do numbers

If they WERE going to revive Fatal Fury, it really should've been an attempt to rerail MotW into what FF3 was doing so that the main competitive focus was on KOF since, as you said, that's their authentic fighter. But instead CotW had to be the tourney pot and now pretty much 3 million dollars minimum have gone to waste to promote a game nobody plays
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>>567213880
NTA, the new FF should've continued from where Wild Ambition left (mechanically, not necessarily in terms of the storyline).
And I mean, things that CotW doesn't borrow from it already and without MotW baggage.
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>>567217621
>>567217685
using motw's characters and story instead of starting fresh was fucking retarded. I'm not sure if snk was REALLY fooled by max or its just oda who had a soft spot for it since he worked on it as a planner and designer.
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>>567218191
The real problem is that Fatal Fury had already been gutted for parts over the years and all the essentials and pop picks were KOF roster filler. So MotW/CotW NEEDED to have something to set it apart from KOF but the game doesn't do a good job justify any interest in these aspects because turns out when you have a brand new roster, you have to work from scratch justifying why people should care about the new roster and CotW didn't do that, it just assumed people already cared about the MotW characters, because SNK assumes people already care about SNK stuff and don't put the effort to actually making their work approachable, accessible and interesting
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No one can disprove that Preecha is canonically a transwoman. Fake tits, trans flag hair, ran away from her family due to disagreements and misunderstandings, trans color alt, even official art depicts her with more male features than her cis counterparts. To say Preecha is a real woman is like saying Ellie over in /fgg/ is a real woman and a talented artist.
To top it off, we're also never getting Mai's classic look back no matter what you delude yourselves into believing. Blue Mary is a lesbian too.
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>>567210351
>has infinite money
>also has mental retardation

lol even
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Andy is straight
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>>567217621
I really think CotW could've tanked any single flaw/fault/weakness/mistake/misstep -- or even a couple of them -- and have been really successful... but having to deal with the multitude of them at the same time was impossible.
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Fatal Fury vs Invincible when
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>>567209934
>in an thread about a company known for anime-ish designs/series
>hates anime
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>snk games and hype
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> https://x.com/frionel26/status/2055617298988187864
We did it, guys. Good job.
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Lmao
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I found out that I own KOFXV even though I don't remember ever having played a KOF. Give me a rundown on the game.
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>>567246463
>>DandyJ's beginner guide to KOF
>https://youtu.be/Ye3KVgI1LvU [Embed]

also, the rest of the OP.
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>>567203723
>ALL THE FG PLAYERS PLAY ON PS4 BRO
>SYLVIE SCHIZO STEAMCHARTSSCHIZO BTFO
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>>567225120
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Puta in COTW when
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>>567253805
...............................huh?
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who's fun in 98? besides iori
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>>567269436
USA team
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Never or soon?
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Snk fags are twitter are sensitive bitches
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>>567272993
Expect every FF character to return, even the unpopular ones like the Jin twins.
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>>567274226
Thanks, Oda.
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>>567211756
Welcome to humankind on the internet
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Xiangfei and Tsugumi must be redesigned to become appealing, it will be the ultimate test to see if snk still has it or not/
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>>567278072
I love Xiangfei design...
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I should commission more brap and scat pics of Mai again..
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>>567278072
Give Xiangfei a skimpy qipao and she will become a fan favourite.
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Sup, neog. What if, instead of KoF16, you received Samurai Shodown 2 (by Harada), but with several KoF characters as samurai and team based? What would you think of that?
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>>567276302
>>567211756
It's not anyone's fault that the FGC is so closeted upon itself and retarded to not even know what a centel account is.
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>>567282238
qipao is good taste
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Do any of you remember how I can play the NEOGEO version of KOF02 in KOF02UM?.
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>>567163967
When did we men get so weak that we started preferring guns (a tool that anyone can use) to actual physical force and ability to use our bare hands to beat up our enemies?
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>>567295795
since 10th century china and throughout countless wars and conflicts spanning since then to include the revolutionary war, world war i, world war ii, vietnam, korea, desert storm,
you're asking a highschool girl level question
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>>567278072
Xiangfei must be redesigned like Jam Kuradoberi, it's 2026 for chrissakes!
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>>567293375
You can't on the current version
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>>567303385
>fgg
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>>567300738
Nobody said that schizo. There’s no reasoning with snk fags. They call old characters dimeless, and so when you naturally recommend a redesign they call it woke.
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>>567274226
>even the unpopular ones like the Jin twins.
This is historical revisionism. Jin twins were fairly popular at the time, especially in Japan (unlike Xiangfei, who was pushed pre-bankrupcy to try farming points with Chinese audience). There's a good reason why they were added to NGBC.
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>>567285093
>It's not anyone's fault that the FGC is so closeted
Yeah, it is. It's the people in the FGC's fault. Period. Don't need 'em. Don't like 'em. Don't watch 'em.
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>>567306486
That's new information for me.
Not that they're hated or anything but for boss characters they seem to be pretty forgetabble.
People barely talk about them and if they do it's not very positive. Or at least that's how it is on English sites.
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>>567315680
A lot of SNK stuff is obscure in the English speaking sphere in the first place, with loudest and the most influential voices shilling for MotW, CvS2 (lol) and KoFXIII above everything else.
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>>567317757
>no puking
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They should add Team Maximum Impact.
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>>567325502
To CotW.
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>>567317757
Finally someone put that creepy stalker whore in her place.
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ODA PLS
DROP SOME NEWS
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
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>I won't play any games, I only react to news like a social parasite
sad
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>>567331078
Hello another social parasite friend. How are you doing?
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>>567331078
We're all losers here. There's no point in making projections, anon.
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Buriki One reboot by Harada's team.
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>>567274226
Alfredbros! Let's gooooooo!!
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Imagine the shitstorm if Harada remake this super move...
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I respect no one whose main form of offense is throw loops and shimmys. Fuck you, you make fighting games unfun
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>throw loops
Street Fighter thread is two blocks down
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What's the deal with not replying to the post number now? I've been seeing quite a lot of that lately. Who started this shit? Reply to the damn post or shut the fuck up, faggot.
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>>567335728
There'd be no shitstorm over something like this but SNK nowadays is so cowardly that they probably think twitter is going to hunt Oda's head over it
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>>567338084
I said Harada but okay.
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Cotw needs THIS marketing
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>>567315680
>Not that they're hated or anything but for boss characters they seem to be pretty forgetabble.
If I remember right they were first conceptualized as one guy with a split personality, then they got divvied up into two characters, and then FF3 had some development fuckery so in an abstract way I view them as like 1/4 of a complete character each
By RB2 you can see that dev team was sort of figuring out what they wanted from them but then Garou happened and 99% of the cast got thrown into the cuckshed
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I want these character, I legit play as all of them in old Fatal Fury games

Jubei(I'm surprised he hasn't come back in any game since FFS he's really fun)
Big Bear/Raiden
Cheng
Ryo
Rick
Alfred(I play him in Dominated Mind where he's more fair)
Duck
Franco
Tung
Laurence

Bob/Richard would be fun too. I play Hwa in Kof 13. Also I want them to revamp Mary and apologize for making a character who is all throw guessing and parrying
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Gato won a major.
The King is dead, long live the King.
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>>567350291
Is dreamhack a major?
I don't think so, even the casters were in their houses.
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>>567350291
I don't like playing against Gato or Vox, I hate their specials
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>>567347561
Have they ever interacted like, at all?
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>>567359430
Yes.
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>>567359430
yes, in the original game, and in cotw A LOT.
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>>567304865
but what if it's a sexier redesign, like shermie
checkmate, atheist
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>>567317757
andy has to beat on mai because he can't beat terry
>>567338039
this place did when they wanted to pretend not to reply to me lol
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cotw needs doro as a guest
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>>567183483
art of fighting? more like art of...faggots
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KOF XVI needs to pull a Megaman 9 and just look like literally like this. Create sprites for the post-XI characters that make it.
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>>567376286
and you'll get maybe 100k people who'll at least add it to their library and a starting 4k who'll actually play it before most of them put it away while mexicans go back to 2k2 or 98 on fightcade
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>>567367560
It needs its own mascot
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>>567377963
kek they couldn't manage it without fucking something up in the process
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discuss the actual fucking games instead of your shitty fanfiction
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>>567380556
no
fanfiction is more entertaining than whatever snk comes up with, which might as well be bad fanfiction
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https://x.com/jagar001/status/2055799247220752750

Noice
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who's your never ever?
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>>567384202
As in characters I wish were playable in a new game, even though their chances are next to 0%? Rose Bernstein. Kino design and she's the daughter of RUGAL. You could do so much if you gave her some kind of power awakening and I'm tired of seeing SNK put her as a background NPC if they remember she exists.
Botan too, would be a fun puppet character pick.
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>>567384202
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>>567278072
Tsugumi is appealing

>>567333814
Wasn't Alfred literally datamined. Anyway I always dug Alfred design
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>>567391540
SNK isn't based enough
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>>567359430
Secondary retard.
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>>567391540
Terry's cute butt...
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Mai is the "potencial character" of this game. All tiers place her in the upper half.
No one plays her.
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>>567376286
As a reminder Mega Man 9 schtick worked for one game exactly, before Mega Man 10 was labeled as a lazy cashgrab.
That said, KoFXII-XIII should've used KoFXI sprites upscaled akin to KoF94 Re-bout instead of inventing a completely new (worse) style.
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>>567412972
>KoF94 Re-bout
that game looked bad
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Don't hate Oda so much. Things could be much worse.
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>>567417242
yeah, wait until it happens with snk and people will be like "yeah you don't understand dei development, or dei-velopment if you will, antitrannie-schizo"
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>>567418173
>no blacks
based
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>>567419162
yet
until they hire decepticonfag
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>>567386929
She's a brocon and seeing how the FGCucks has a melty over Alex they would implode once they find out about her
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Speaking of Rose...who the hell wrote her wiki this way. So amateurish.
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>>567422030
yeah, all 10 people that even notice snk exists lol
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>>567422497
>le snk is irrelevant gimmick in 2026
Please. As if the FGC doesn't swarm around them whenever there's controversy.
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>>567422812
k
it's a vocal minority until snk is the victim of such but otherwise it's capdrones ignoring them
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>>567423071
Be less predictable with your replies next time, you've gotten pretty boring as of late.
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>>567423375
at least i actually commit to the things i've said before unlike some flipflops who change their opinions to something convenient whenever snk changes course
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>>567423508
The flipflop flop flippers are always watching (You). Whatever you do, do not take the medication bottle on your table.
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>>567422030
Still can't believe that shit was real. Not because I'm super against fictional incest or big age gaps or anything but it legitimately came out of nowhere. I was expecting some follow-up on some of the Gil shit but nah instead we get some random revelation about Tom being like Alex's uncle and Alex impregnating his sister-cousin-wife.
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>>567424146
k snk mark
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>>567424709
It's retarded writing but that's on par with that series. It's just funny seeing grown adults mald over it like they've just discovered there's a whole other world of tropes that are commonly used beyond the most surface level, vanilla stuff they engage with.
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>>567424709
>I was expecting some follow-up on some of the Gil shit
Genuinely why? SF6 hasn't had any significant stories or interesting reveals. This is consistent with the game's writing, it pretends to have stakes but then nothing happens. The only "story" it tells is backstory, so if Gill was brought up in any way all they would've said was "yeah I beat Gill back in Street Fighter III: Third Strike..."

Even CotW at its worst has some things actually happen, they're just usually not interesting. It seems like SNK wants to try and be Capcom though and are barely letting the game flourish any further beyond surface level answers to MotW questions
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>>567203723
this is real btw
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>>567413276
A big part of that was having lower budget and using older sprites as the base.
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>>567427724
lower budget and lower talent
now that they have a higher budget, they still have lower talent
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>>567428768
Well, yes. A retard doesn't become a genius after receiving tons of money. More news at eleven.
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>>567427724
No the smooth plastic artstyle used was just ugly. No matter how much money they could've thrown at it that wouldn't have changed.
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>>567429792
so what was the purpose of pointing out lower budget like they're going to fire any of their current ones to replace them
the only companies that actually replace them are AAA grade ones who go through more members than a kpop girl group
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>page 10
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What's the PS5 numbers for CotW?
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>>567435708
"almost 100 for the week"
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>>567435708
I don't think its hard to guess, just take the steam numbers and either double or triple it as a maximum amount. Still not much.
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>>567424709
>>567425809
*The Illuminati are still around but have no such big presence in VI story, Gill exposed himself by fighting with G in V story but apparently no one mentioned it
*Spare-Clone Vega/Bison is planning to reconstruct Shadaloo as a token of slowly regaining his memories, Vega/Bison tried to recruit Sagat but was declined
*Rose, G and the Illuminati predicted that there will be a catastrophic event that will put the universe in danger, Rose says she is going "back to zero"
*If the leaks are true Ingrid is bringing characters from other universes
These are Street Fighter stakes and honestly by how VI is handling things they may not matter at all
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https://x.com/viuvasdokof/status/2056439440545915144

Nice bug
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>>567435708
https://x.com/TheFGCentel/status/2055696370653081724
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>>567444371
https://x.com/El_Halcon_Azul/status/2056204329426493558
this is the kind of comment i'm describing when i make the joke "it works on my machine"
i did say joke, but it's real
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tiktok.com/@snk_global

yay?
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>>567446316
and what purpose
tiktok is for idiots who stream videos of themselves going to stores to disturb people for reactions and hopefully to get shot at and killed
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>>567446316
>shitok
Great! Now more people will know that SNK only has ONE GAME
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>>567301813
Shame. It would be too handy launching 02 from steam instead THE FUCKING FIGHTCADE
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So you all bitch about CotW copying SF6 but is no one going to call out Capcom for stealing EOST now?
https://x.com/i/status/2056510142766616769
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>>567455440
because eost was completely original and never done before yeah lol
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>>567440685
ZA WARUDO

Jojo collab soon
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>>567455884
This is literally the exact same mode from cotw copy pasted. Gtfo schizoid.
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>still no porn

It's over...
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>>567457145
rich from the anon mad about copying shit and their version is using your custom avatar character that cotw doesn't even have and didn't even bother copying, and as if a leveling sp campaign mode hasn't been in fgs before like blazblue and pretty sure they already had a world tour mode with similar effects anyway
you guys shat on avatar creation but would say shit like how snk is saved if they finally got one or some shit because of flipfloppery
because your opinions aren't real, everything you say is simply whatever's convenient to defend or support snk at the time
so yeah turn on your monitor
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>>567457237
so is it male or female
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>>567457938
Holy melty.
Nobody's reading that buddy.
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>>567459434
says the guy posting news about capcom games in a neogeo thread and asking why nobody else is mad
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wait wait lemme do an impression
"i am totes not the same anon"
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>>567459936
says this says that how about you just stop saying shit. nothing you ever type out is tangible to people with working front lobes.
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>>567460214
turn on your monitor
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>https://x.com/Masaobkgy/status/2054364324614070648
Thoughts?
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>>567461730
>S-tier in one series and garbage tier in another
The duality of being a Billy Kane enjoyer
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>>567461730
Jae that bad?
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>>567461730
I don't get why Rock is considered top 5 by so many top players. Is he really that good just by being solid in all areas? His damage seems pretty average and it's not like his neutral or mix is that oppressive.
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>>567464724
He's the E Honda of the game if Honda didn't have a command grab. His whole game plan is fishing for stand C hits and hoping the opponent doesn't know how to duck or whiff punish and landing his one big combo
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>>567461730
pretty good but I'd bump rock down between Andy and Preecha.
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>>567461730
I think Hokuto and Kain should be at least a little bit higher.
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>>567461730
lmao remember jae hoon?
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They sold that bum Jae as DLC, btw. The Marty Janetty of the Kim Family and SNK thought people wanted him so badly in Fatal Fury that they'd be willing to pay extra for him. Made an AI sloppa advertisement for him and everything.
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>>567470772
can only laugh at such a gesture kek
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>>567461730
Geese, Kain, Kevin, Mai, Jenet higher
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>>567470772
better than using gen ai in actual games like capcom
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>>567476614
>Meet the Potential Woman
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>>567481465
mom I was looking down.
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Bumpsies.
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>>567457938
Gotta agree with this guy. It was the hardcore SNK CAN DO NO WRONG dickriders who sperg about even suggesting SNK copy any GOOD elements from pre-SFV Capcom games. eg:

>"they should make rev blow punishable like FADC"
>"OH, SO YOU WANT SF6 AVATARZ?! YOU WANT THEM TO COPY CAPCOM?!"

Typical low IQ, mentally ill stuff like that. But now Capcom's borrowing an idea, they wanna ask why the people wanted better gameplay logic aren't angry. The whole thing is retarded. They flipflop so much, they could argue with their own posts.
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I've been hunting around for the actual sprites used in KOFXII/XIII to no luck
I found the link above from a MUGEN resource but the quality is just... This isn't even close to source quality.

I have a few animations as .gif in source quality but they're very limited from Fighters Generation.
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>>567496739
Actually nvm I think these are source
issue was the dog software I was using to view/edit it, it looks fine in actual image editing software
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>>567455440
always said EOST was a brilliant idea but undercooked.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KPwHp4bh5dY
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>>567504179
>Tranniken
K'ek
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>>567504179
bad enough they did this but also
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>>567501636
Yep, they should have made a proper VN with fights.
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>>567513892
proper vns don't work, don't be retarded man. That's no difference than the movie story mode GGS does. VNs as a story mode might work if you have a full on world lore that needs to be explored, not for dumb characters like jenet and hoktumaru.
What EOST needs is more customization, builds, free roam hub, mini games like AoF, unlockables... etc.
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also alternate versions of the characters like evil terry are very fun, they should do more of em
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>>567517156
They missed a great opportunity by not including Shadow Andy.
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Oda would you sell me sausage
Oda would sell me sausages
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>>567516575
They should've made characters like Jenet and Hokutomaru actually have shit going on instead of roster padding them, then. As for your criticisms

>Customization
They need alt costumes for that to be a big deal. It's not like there's interest in customizing moves in these games because it becomes a fucking mess of balance
>Builds
Previous statement
>Free Roam Hub
What I'd been saying before release. Being just a checkmark map is underwhelming as hell. Compare No More Heroes 1 with No More Heroes 2. The latter just "cuts to the chase" and it's a lot less interesting and shows it's a budget sequel compared to the first game's fully fleshed out Santa Destroy map. The idea of playing as your roster in the supposedly more fleshed out South Town instead of some crappy avatar would set in Metro City would've actually turned heads. Instead EOST looks like a college project
>Mini games
The weird part is they clearly have more mini games in the code, they just haven't released them yet. We're almost finished with S2 and the arm wrestling minigame datamined from the OBTs
>Unlockables
These are there, they're just underwhelming due to EOST being underwhelming. Fix the first problems, then this one gets fixed too
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>>567518880
*And the arm wrestling minigame datamined from the OBTs is still missing
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>>567517528
yeah shadow andy would be more fun since he's in the shadow of his brother, so those emotions feel more real.
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>>567518160
sausages
sausages
sausag-ACK
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>>567517528
the lack of ex characters at all in their modern games is jarring considering their history with games like rbs/2 and some of the kof games, to even include xiii which did them egregiously by selling them separately but at least it had them
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>>567283697
Seems like a bad idea that discards both identity and the feeling of a serious samurai duel. Even if you really were committed to the former, I'd just have ancestral versions of a few other SNK characters. There is an old Mai, and making centuries older Kusanagi that either uses hand weapons that allow boxing-like strikes or the actual sword might work.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_L1QRMgIY0

Jenet is hitting the big leagues
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>>567525474
>State of Survival
>not Leona
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>>567525474
finally, jenet looks female again
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>use fatal fury characters
>but the collab is with kofxv
lol it's been a year so prep time/licensing is not an excuse
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>>567525474
If they’re using Jenet and Mai, wouldn’t it make more sense for the collaboration to be with COTW instead of KOF XV?
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>>567528139
you don't understand choosing which ip license to use development
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>>567526848
>>567528139
They didn't want to use CotW Mai, maybe?
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>>567525474
lol the state of snk
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>>567528852
That, but unironically.
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>>567525474
tell me I can play for free
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when the FUCK is mr karate coming out
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>>567544136
Probably in a week. SNK have been cutting it really close with the monthly shit since every drop has been in the 20s
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>>567544136
Who cares. I want Tsugumi.
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>>567513892
Isn't that what the new story mode is
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I hate every online Krauser nigger doing the same fucking shit and getting carried
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>>567559649
Been saying this since he was out and nobody was listening
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>>567560458
Only like 3 people in this thread actually play the game
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>>567548943
Same week as Ingrid? Might as well shadow drop him tomorrow if they don't care about him then.
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>>567562092
it wouldn't matter either way, mr karate ain't drawin anybody smdh robert in a mask like he has any real pull
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>>567544136
Can't wait for his stage.
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>>567528139
27 years of curating a KOFonly generation of players and fans. Most people calling themselves SNK fans are just KOF fans. They might like or know about Metal Slug and SamSho, but they're not into SNK as a whole. Same with people calling themselves Capcom fans, but only like Street Fighter.
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>>567563702
>Same with people calling themselves Capcom fans, but only like Street Fighter
ironic because street fighter at least isn't even their most popular series today compared to monster hunter and res evil
and you can't even say this comment was limited to fgs because you mentioned metal slug
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>>567528139
You guys still don't understand that COTW is fucked PR wise, at least for the it's remaining lifespan. No one wants to do collabs with it unless it was already planned before the game came out.
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>>567565718
Hey, I like you when doomposting is at least fun, yeah, make it cool.
And your post is booooring
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>>567567646
look we can try to make chicken salad out of chicken shit but you're asking for a miracle with regards trying to make anything having to do with snk seem fun
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>>567568303
You know I talk about you.
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>>567569445
many are saying this unlike with snk
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>>567567646
What?
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Would be kino if Aerith gets added to CotW.
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>>567573769
but why
she is boring even in her own game
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If every fighting game is gonna have a mandatory FF guest character, there's only one character I would respect SNK for if they put in
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i want to review and audit snk's source code
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>>567575696
Based.
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>tfw all the /neog/ posters are too busy actually playing SNK games to bump
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harada-san you have one job
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>>567585809
yeah i'm glad all 3 remaining neog posters are busy playing the game and somehow are not asking for tips on how to deal with each others bullshit because they're that into it
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>>567573769
Rinoa is better
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>>567594757
X-3 can't come soon enough.
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>>567595641
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>>567596412
Exactly. It's honestly super funny.
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New patch. Probably for the Krauser glitch.
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Birb, my beloved
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>>567604431
HOL UP
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It's not just about using it or not, but how you use it. I guess.
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>>567609227
Devs don't care if we like it or not, they'll use it anyway
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>>567156492
>>567206945
Harada joins SNK?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZTF2QfYwg
What game will he make?
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>>567614115
KOF: Maximum Impact but with Idolmaster girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZQWSnO4Su8
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>>567614115
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>>567614115
SNK idolm@ster
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>>567619826
>serious bowling game

For some reason Messi, David Guetta and Mai.
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https://x.com/jm_newbreed/status/2057055654226116628
Dunno what this guy’s source is. And with the NEOGEO thing, does he mean an snk ip?
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awroooo
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>>567575878
Found it!!
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Tokon saving ArcSys
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>>567647080
I doubt that it would be THAT popular.
Then again, I think that the interest in Invincible VS is anomalous, so what do I know.
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AoF4 saving SNK
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>>567649696
Not cute and funny enough
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>>567650369
Characters need to grow up at some point, anon.
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SNK Heroines 2 will save SNK
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>>567652343
Fake and gay.
It's fiction, you can do whatever.
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>>567612857
This. Remember when certain forums would ban people for saying "lazy devs". Bet they're all saying it now, the fuckers. Modern devs will always, allllllwaaays take the short cut if they think they'll get away with it.
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I want to see those two dorks again.
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I've been watching some video about fighting games and to llustrate some points SF6 footage was used. I was a little bit out of it, but I literally couldn't recognize Mai in it because of how I'm much more used seeing her in a more anime artstyle. It was a crazy realization honestly.
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>>567671308
Same. Can't wait for KoFXVI or an other kind of a game with SNK characters that could include them.
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>>567671308
Isla is going to fuck his brains out
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More KoFXV DLC would be nice...
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>>567609227
It's not just about using it or not, but who is using it.
>my favorite game developer
It's inevitable companies use the technology at their disposal.
>not my favorite company
CHUDS!
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Why can't we have her back? Is Oda GAY??
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>>567684592
She will be in Ikari Warriors 4
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>>567642347
kek it really do be like that
looks like my audit job is done
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>>567652343
yeah that's what we said until xiii yuri happened where she looked younger than kula
>>567683165
the mistake made is if you do something, own up to it and move on or commit or lean into it even and say fuck you critics, but if you do what snk did, you just look like a cowardly cuck pussy bitch who bends over for anyone but someone logical
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Why would you release a balance/bug fix patch a a week before a character drop, why not just release it with the character drop
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>>567575696
This is legit the only good answer.
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but an answer that wouldn't really sell anything
not that anyone cares as long as they have their friends and family to play with
works on their machine afterall
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>>567694723
Combo Breaker is this weekend with SWC points at stake.
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>when snk makes a mistake and tries to fix it >>>/pw/20464414
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>>567575696
This game is like cotw, only flopped because it looked ugly. It had a strong marketing because of the memes, final fantasy ip, the people who played it liked it and praised it. It still didn’t sell.
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>>567698769
>"Now, SNK! Attack!"
>SNK:
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>>567706290
snk thought they meant att-ACK!
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>>567706636
K'ek
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New Samsho by Harada
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>>567708097
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>>567708097
Hibiki vs Earthquake
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>>567708097
That's Jim Sterling, the fat, faux-trans, Mereghi rip off streamer, by the way.
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>>567694723
>>567698648
Because they care more about esports and what streamers think than anything else. That's why fgs have gone down. The Krauser bug was fixed in less than 4 days. Now look how slow they've been to fix other shit.
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>>567709513
It's a shame that SNK never made Samsho vs Last Blade, even in the 2D era.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/virtuafighter/comments/1tje7vv/virtua_fighter_vi_crossroads_leaked_video/

can harada even compete?
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>>567717267
>Cielo
....really? Japanese developers are truly creatively bankrupt. He looks like some thug minion you defeat in any 3D beat n up game. It's crazy after so much waiting, they come up with such a generic character design. Also, God help Sega if this guy replaces Vanessa.

Anyway, the gameplay looks good (literally VF5 2.0, which is great). The animations are very fluid and the attacks have a deep impact. I liked it. Harada will definitely take inspiration from this.
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Finally, a crossover that would appeal to younger generations....in a mobile game.
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>>567723352
the hell am i looking at
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>>567724571
Dandadan collab
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>>567724829
oh, it's the thing with this bitch i saw all over /a/ for a while
but it's snk so it'll probably just be only the nerd guy for sausaging
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>>567706290
>>567706636
lol
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>>567717267
Assuming they maintain gameplay standards, VF6 would've been the #1 3D game in the old fighting game world just off that and those grapihcs. But we'll see how it does in the modern pozzed "FGC" where it's all about liars, scammers, and streaming.
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>>567717267
>>567718665
Yeah we always shit on snk, but this cielo guy looks even worse than vox. VF guys fell to the VF is supposed to be realistic meme. You gotta give it to Tekken, they make 3d characters but also make them cool.
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R.I.P Daimon's voice actor.
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>>567725058
I just realized she and Shun'ei basically have the same power.
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>>567726316
F
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https://x.com/KOFstudio_en/status/2057446313810141267
hey remember this costume that you don't get to use in our current game
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>>567738068
Oda is gay
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>>567738068
Current game? KoF's current game is still XV though?
>From the iconic game series THE KING OF FIGHTERS
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>>567723352
What would a team Dandadan be?

>Okarun/Momo/Aira
>Okarun/Momo/Jiji
>Okarun/Momo/Seiko
>Okarun/Momo/That new alien girl from S2 idk I haven't seen it yet
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Nobody cares tourist
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>>567746173
Turbo granny / Seiko / and momo of course
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Terry:
"Hey, Andy. Blow Joe."
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Why do SNK fans always think about random gay scenarios out of nowhere? Can't you fags go one day without thinking about dudes pounding dudes?
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Does anyone have that screenshot where Oda straight up lies about Kyo having alternate costumes in KOFXV
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>>567723352
I remember when All Star did collabs with Gintama and Seven Deadly Sins the latter because netmarble did a SDS mobile game which also had a KOF collab.
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>>567760690
People can't check out your imagination, oniisan
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>>567772790
No need to check imagination when there’s video evidence recorded, oniisan~
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>>567778192
Just fuck already!
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>>567717267
Yes. In 2029 with new Samsho.
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>>567779324
I already hate the camera.
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>>567778192
Non-canon KoF ship.
At best Charlotte wanting to fuck Haohmaru tier.
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>>567786910
Motion sickness?
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>>567779324
Pai's new costume is literally just SF6 Chun but green
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>/neog/ - SNK, other FGs, some animes and gay shit
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>>567778363
How did Takuma allow Robert to take over the Mr Karate identity?
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>>567795862
Anon, Takuma is a grumpy granpa in a retirement home.
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>>567744305
least marked snk dff
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>>567758316
why do you think snk is all about sausages
you guys are closet homo while pretending to be chads but whine about capcom every now and then
>>567777589
lmao anon got btfo so hard he couldn't say anything in response
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>>567805931
how dare you say that about me.
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>>567760690
>>567777589
>>567805931
It wasn't Oda the one lying though, it was Ogura

https://youtu.be/OEGudn2SuA0?si=OrugXZLtMOjhRMdT
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>>567777589
It goes how it always goes
>It's still coming!
>They confirmed it!
>Be patient!
>So entitled!
>They never said that!
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How long until SNK runs out of ideas and starts using obscure rejected character concepts to add to the roster?
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CB in 3 hours
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>>567834445
Ash was a rejected design repurposed by Falcoon.
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I hope they implement this level of animation for the next game.

https://x.com/jagar001/status/2057634426331484229

Together with VF they would be ahead everyone
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>>567819185
yeah, you're right, oda didn't say it himself, but he was right next to the guy who did in that very video and allowed it to slide on by
he is guilty by association
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>>567866670
I love PUTA
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>>567881365
K'ek
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>>567846350
Hmm... now you've got me wondering if many of the "another" versions are actually inspired by rejected designs from KoF/neogeo games.
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>>567883957
Dunno, but that said, Lien's normal design is suspiciously similar to Saya's from SamSho Warriors Rage PS1.
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>>567884989
The plot chickens
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(raughs)
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>>567885546
Both are vaguely British orphans that were trained to be assassins too.
The main difference is that one is a fairly sweet person who thinks of others and the other does the femme fatale schtick while concerning primarly with herself.
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>>567853982
Is it possible to make porn with mocap? Blue Mary's dog is asking.
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>>567886234
Cuties NEVER EVER
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>>567888080
I truly despise how MotW got a proper sequel, while SamSho is doomed to only get prequels, midquels and dream matches.
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>>567888594
Most attempts to "follow up" SamSho II just seem to bury the franchise further while the prequels are genuinely all successes for SNK standards. Extremely weird phenomenon
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>>567889020
There were four attempts.
Two are on HNG64 (with one of them having NGP port). Non-starter.
One is a PS1 exclusive, made by people who weren't good enough with PS1 hardware and had a weird round system.
One is a weird, arcade and Xbox only game made by reusing Pachinko assets IIRC.
All of them are pretty fucking obscure with limited number of people being able to try and give them a fair shake in the first place.
Another good point of discussion would be why exactly SNK decided to move on to making midquels between SS2 and SS64 and prequels after PS1 WR. Because it honestly makes sense.
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>>567892513
It's just generally safer and you can have all the classic heads without needing to expand upon their stories. Part of why Capcom refused to surpass SFIII because "reinventing" the characters is more difficult than just portraying them as they usually are. You just introduce new characters while main characters like Haohmaru, Nakoruru or Shiki remain the exact same because their major story beats haven't happened yet. Fighting games encourage this behavior, people get mad when characters are changed, often justifiably like Strive just completely altering character motivation entirely as "character development" that wasn't actually hinted at in prior installments. SamSho's just unlucky because outside of KOF being SNK's safest series, SamSho is usually next in line to promote new hardware or concepts altogether
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>>567889020
Partially because Samsho wasn't planned to have more games after the second entry.
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Story wise, isn't Samsho II just samsho I with more characters?
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>>567899590
Most games aren't, SNK are just kings of writing themselves into corners

>>567901004
It should be but for whatever reason SNK wrote Nakoruru becoming one with nature so it's seen as kind of the finale of the story despite the fact the Hyper Neo Geo 64 games bring back Nakoruru anyway. SamSho's story is almost completely negligible outside of 3 and 4, ironically the first batch of midquel games that take place between 1 and 2. 5 was a prequel to the entire series for the MVS hardware simply because all of the 3D installments were massive bombs so they figured "back to basics" was a good idea. 6 is a dream match that takes place after all the Neo Geo games, before the 3D games yet still isn't canon

SamSho in particular seems to have issues telling a serious story but also backtracking and not going through with its ideas more so than any of SNK's other properties while simultaneously still committing to them like how Shiki's entire story in 2019 is filler because she was supposed to wake up during the 3D era, not before the first game
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>>567895320
That's partially true, but on other hand, you can always do dream matches, add "ghosts" of non-canon characters, etc.
Remember when Shikyoh died in Last Blade 1 and Last Blade 2 returned him as Mukuro?
Well, Gen'an actually got randomly resurrected in SamSho 2 after getting killed in SamSho 1. Nakoruru became an Ainu nature spirit (Korpokkur), but it was shown that she can return.
Not to mention the entire Nightmare Geese thing.
In short, it is a skill/bravery issue. I think a big problem that SamSho had for a long time is lack of representation in KoF (and/or failure of NGBC), which would allow the progression of story without being tied into having to be faithful to the "canon".
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>>567902132
>5 was a prequel to the entire series for the MVS hardware simply because all of the 3D installments were massive bombs so they figured "back to basics" was a good idea.
5? You mean the game that they outsourced to some small obscure studio? The one that was recycling sprites from the old games? The one that was called 0 in Japan? Made in 2003, cheap, to capitalize on Playmore reclaiming SNK? That 5?
There's a lot more context to why 5 is the way it is, okay? 3D SamSho games weren't massive bombs in vacuum either, as they are decent to good games that are stupidly hard to play.
SNK really needs to make a Hyper Neo-Geo 64 Collection or something.
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>>567909016
Ironically I'd argue the opposite, SamSho avoiding KOF for 30 years allowed SamSho to develop its own identity and be its own franchise because it wasn't just getting its popular characters yoinked out of it and dumped into KOF. That's what killed Fatal Fury and especially Art of Fighting. Their skill/bravery issue stems from the fact SamSho is their #2 franchise altogether and they need to portray it with tact compared to their other IPs, especially given KOF wasn't really a graphics/hardware showcase after 1996 and became a yearly tradition based on reusing assets until they finally needed to make the jump to "modern" hardware with XI

But SNK does respect their canon enough to not necessarily do stupid shit all the time. SamSho is the main exception when it comes to sequels, because outside of fringe spinoffs Fatal Fury, AOF, Last Blade and even KOF have never gone backwards like SamSho have. You can tell they have specific visions for these IPs in mind that aren't about detail, but more so about how to portray them

>>567910541
Implying they still even have the source code which would be the main problem. Hyper Neo Geo 64 itself was a MASSIVE bomb and only had like 6-7 games made for it tops, and was hardware that was usually too technical to emulate right. Those games were supremely inaccessible even back then, let alone nowadays. It doesn't help right now SNK aren't even bothering to make real collections or ports of their old stuff (fuck you KK for saying SNK is the "progenitors" of archival when all you fuckers have are Neo Geo games)

And yes almost like you repeated a point I was making about SamSho V to begin with. There was no reason to return to MVS hardware outside of cheap costs, easy and safe development and making something extremely accessible after SNK's bankruptcy. A normal studio with even a bit of budget would not have been using hardware made in 1991 to release a 2003 game to begin with
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>>567911859
I disagree with the framing that it is just Fatal Fury and AoF that died. SNK died as a whole, KoF was just the only fighting game franchise to keep going despite the ongoing apocalypse, but even that wasn't without certain caveats (see what happened to the second half of NESTS games and the entire Ash Saga + the MI stuff as well as other weirdness such as Sky Arena).
I'll also add that they actually reinvented SamSho multiple times, even in 2D days. 3 is more serious in tone and they changed the gameplay quite a bit. 4 added Shura / Bust system as well as finalized changes started in 3. 6 became somewhat a clownfiesta of a game by SamSho standards, despite being 2D. It's not like they were playing safe, if anything SamSho was always incredebly inconsistant, much more so than KoF, even keeping in mind Strikers and Tag.
By the way, speaking of SNK respecting canon? They made Ryo younger in Buriki One and inserted sequel characters in Wild Ambition. I guess those are among the games that you called fringe spinoffs, but this also depends on the perspective. Late SNK really needed to get into 3D games and they bet a lot on HNG64. From their view, they could've considered SamSho 64 1-2, Buriki One and Wild Ambition their vision of their fighting franchises future, while Last Blade 1-2, AoF3 and MotW were the weird spinoffs.
>and was hardware that was usually too technical to emulate right
This always was a shitty excuse. A lot of people were saying this about Atari Jaguar and arcade version of Mortal Kombat 4, but suddenly both became available to be included in various re-releases.
SNK could always hire (the omega based) M2 to make a HNG64 emulator for their use. Those guys can also be hardcore enough to hack in additional stuff (meaning they can likely add PS1 exclusive characters to arcade Wild Ambition).
I agree that SNK could treat their back catalogue a lot better. I'm pretty sure that some of their games are still sold as old shitty Dotemu releases.
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>nobody watching KOF15 combo breaker
Why are you like this
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>>567915981
>3 is more serious in tone and they changed the gameplay quite a bit. 4 added Shura / Bust system as well as finalized changes started in 3
Disregard the obvious mistake here, it was a brainfart. 4 did differ from 3, but it wasn't what I stated.
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>>567916189
I do. Kaiser has a good chance to win a major.
Let see how good is MadKOF plot armor.
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Um.

Anyway. Maybe from losers.
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>>567923431
Kim diff
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Nerf Yashiro and O.Yashiro
Buff Ralf and Clark
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oh no no no kaiserinohombres
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끝났어
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I'm cheering for the argentinian edgelord over the fatass with blm in his name
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Congrats to Layec.
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>>567915981
>and was hardware that was usually too technical to emulate right
wait someone legit said this about an snk product? lol
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>>567931934
Hyper Neo-Geo 64 IS hard to emulate, or at least that is what the lazy ass MAME developers working on 3D capable arcade cabinets were saying and it IS likely true to a degree.
My point is that being hard to emulate is a far cry from being impossible to emulate. And that is besides the emulation not needing to be cycle accurate and that with a limited number of games you can cheat with the implementation by making game specific hacks.
However that is still a hassle and of a low interest for both the community and therefore to SNK as well.
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>>567934956
Yeah that's kind of the key difference in difficulty not actually meaning it's impossible. It requires interest in being able to at least replicate the hardware enough and right now the main reason it's not accessible despite it being almost 30 years old is really due to that lack of interest. Again, only 6 games are available for the hardware so people need to be able to replicate tech that hasn't really been touched in 3 decades all for a niche playerbase that'll try the games and then swiftly lose interest since the board flopped for a reason

It's not like Sega where people actually do give a shit about the brand
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>>567934956
99% of the reason most likely isn't the technicality but availability and access and interest, which you even admit, that's not particularly suggesting anything about the level of tech in the hardware thobeit
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>>567936318
It's 90s proprietary hardware, it's not advanced or beyond comprehension. The reason we said it's too technical to emulate right is because the lack of interest in streamlining its accessibility means only people who know what the fuck they're doing would be able to replicate it. All hardware and software is capable of being reverse engineered, but without people interested in doing that then the difficulty comes in from the accessibility of tools and knowledge

But let's be real, LOTS of late-90s hardare barely has been worked on. Saturn and N64 are still far beyond a lot of 6th generation emulation in terms of quality, and at least those HAVE emulators. It's just not as high quality as other accessible emulators. Meanwhile Hyper NG64 has basically nothing
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>>567937763
>The reason we said it's too technical to emulate right
well yeah i got this and that's why i'm saying it shouldn't have been said like that just because of those aforementioned reasons which we agreed upon, because it just makes it sound like it's too advanced like alien technology when worded like that
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>>567938934
Well, it IS alien technology. Just not advanced
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>>567604431
this guys art got worse over the years
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>>567935729
All it actually requires is paying a dev that specializes in the shit like that once. You get it done and rake a small, but continuous stream of revenue afterwards, because from time to time you do see people go
>Yo, have you guys heard of Buriki One, my favourite youtuber told me that this game is a crazy experience unlike anything else
>Bros, I kinda want to check where Shiki is from
>HOLY SHIT, Beast motherfucking Busters got a sequel!
Well, the last one is just me, but the rest are correct.
Investing into a permanent expansion of the back catalogue is a winning strategy. Do you think that Capcom making all those arcade and other kinds of collections is because they are bleeding hearts that love their fans? No, what they love is complete randoms seeing the games on some vtuber's stream and wanting to try them out.
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yeah like how people wanted to try out cotw after watching it on some random vtuber's stream
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>>567947137
CotW specifically is complicated, especially with how it is still actively supported, but I unironically do see people getting interested in KoFXV.
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>>567947137
Over the last 5 months, I've seen much, much more "just bought cotw" than I ever did for kof xv. But it's anecdotal
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>>567948436
yeah it's also now 20 dollars for a base package as it should have been priced
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https://x.com/FATALFURY_PR/status/2057808701227237380

Aw, c'mon
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>>567949851
Remember, no charge!
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>>567949851
I don't get the point of these teasers. We already know he's coming, just post the damn release date and gameplay already
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>>567955970
You don't know teaser development
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>>567955970
I don't get why they only posted a teaser for him 2 weeks ago instead of a full trailer
I like Robert, but it's just Robert, no need for all this forced fanfare around him
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>>567649696
Yuri in an outfit that doesn't accentuate her butt feels blasphemous
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>>567795862
It's only in KOF where he's a comic relief cuck who watches Yuri get creamed by her brother
In AOF he's an equal rival to Ryo, protagonist of his own game in AOF3 and also Yuri moves in with him when he leaves the country at the end of that one
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>>567961285
and this seems perfect for Oda/Snk current mindset of "less fanservice = better"
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>>567968520
seems to also fit his mindset of "less sales = better"
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>>567958129
People would be more hyped if it were Ryo
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And here it is

https://youtu.be/WFdeTAz-Ca4?si=8L0QGiSRuZSU2I9x
https://youtu.be/ECwujOmoRow?si=0O097pjaFUEHlm4M
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>>567978721
They're definitely cutting it close with these monthly releases
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>>567978721
Ngl, I never really cared about Robert but that trailer was swaggy as fuck.
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>>567978721
He looks cool, the hell is that dash?
Robert's one of the guys I usually end up sticking with in KOF, hope these changes trickle down into the next one
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>>567978721
Graphics update incoming? Why does it look like that
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>>567982114
>in-game still looks the exact same it always has been
What do you think?
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>>567978721
So any reason why the game can't look like this?
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>>567983118
>>567982734
I'd rather they didn't bother showing that they can hypothetically make the game look like that (assuming SNK's too incompetent to make it run smoothly when it's like that) because now I'm just annoyed lol
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>>567978721
>Another vastly inferior and uglier version of an older stage
>Weird-looking CG animation at the start and end
>Unironically releasing only a day before Ingrid, who 95% of people that play Fighting Games are more hyped about and will be playing instead
YIKES it's like SNK is begging to be seen as inferior, and get themselves severely overshadowed(like always nowadays).
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>>567984434
They shouldn't have attempted to make so many new stages during this one character a month thing, it's clearly impacting the quality of them
I think this stage looks ok (not great, not terrible either) but Krauser's one with everyone in the background standing still pisses me off every time I see it
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>>567978721
I'm amazed the English dub gave him an Italian accent.
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>>567983118
>>567978721
by far the best new stage, possibly the best stage overall
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>>567982114
>Why does it look like that
It's ran through an AI filter
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>>567989143
It's mocap.
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>>567983118
If it’s really in-game, then they’re probably teasing a future graphical update.
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Imagine if the game was delayed just 1 year, we could’ve had all dlc characters, new story mode, alt costumes, possibly enhanced graphics, all at release. SNK shot themselves in the foot.
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>>567983118
Because this one is AI or in-game graphics with AI filter
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>>567978721
Oh, shit! It's Robert from King of Fighters.
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>>567997125
Shut up you retard
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>using Ryo's theme from Fatal Fury Special
Well at least it's in the game for when Ryo comes out
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Please tell me Robert isn't a charge character again.
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>>567968918
Yeah. Let's take Marvel Rivals as an example. The graphics aren't cutting-edge, but the animations are very good and there's a strong focus on fanservice. Mix all that with a popular franchise and an easy-to-play multiplayer game, and voila: success. Then, SNK's graphics aren't cutting-edge either, the animations aren't great, and the franchise isn't popular. It's a fighting game that isn't easy to play. The only "weapon" left is fanservice. And they didn't use it. It's almost like they don't care if the game is a success or not. The way they think is truly bizarre.
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>>567999332
I like charge Robert, especially in Kof XI and NGBC. But there's no way, there's barely any charge characters in this game or most Fatal Fury games past FF2/FFS.
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>>567998391
Fuck you, Oda. Remember that it's your fault for that AI trailer.
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>>567949851
Why do this if you're going to post the trailer the same day, snk? lol
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>>567998614
I don't like how it looks like the background dude's shadows aren't being cast by their bodies which makes it look like they're just floating there. Maybe it would have helped if the texture for the floor had more distinction between the boards to make it not look so flat. Also doesn't have any neat lighting effects since its during the day instead of sunset like the 02um ver but I don't expect modern SNK to be able to utilize proper lighting anyway
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>>567997125
That looks totally doable though
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>>567978721
His lightning legs look off.
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>>568000208
This was posted yesterday
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>>567999595
And no Terry doesn't count because of his rising tackle. It's kind of funny though that even then some games(mainly kof) turned rising tackle into a shoryuken command
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>>567998614
They REALLY need to stop with the ugly-ass background NPCs in their modern stuff. Both in KOF 15 and COTW. They make the already not that great looking stages look even worse. The NPCs in COTW look like weird golem-creatures too. Ironically, KOF 14 has the best-looking background NPCs out of all of modern SNK's games. They have a good amount of detail, and they don't move at like 10FPS(like in KOF15/COTW for some reason) which helps a lot. There's also not that many, which also probably helps in them not being an ugly distraction.
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>>568004091
Even 13 had weird-looking fat fucks in the background of every stage for some reason
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>>568004252
That's an artstyle thing and it was only in like 2 or 3 stages. The problem with their 3D NPCs is that they look terrible from a technical standpoint.
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>>567998614
The mountain background looks so fake it feels like a wallpaper. Bad job.
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>>567997125
Surely you have a source to back this up and are just not pulling it out of your ass anon.
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>>568004091
I miss the older 2d background characters. This is from one of Iori's old stages look at these fuckin scummy ass bums I love them
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I converted a lot of SNK stages to MUGEN and noticing the personality they gave to random ass characters in the backgrounds of their stages(particularly from like Kof 96 on and for Fatal Fury like FF3 and on) is ridiculous. Fatal Fury has reoccuring background characters that I think have names and backstories and everything. Of course none of them are in CotW.
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>>568005830
Is that a loli on the right wearing a school swimsuit?
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>>567998614
Harada pls save us
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City of the gays
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>>567998614
Was the monthly character releases worth it?
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>>567980546
Why does Yuri make Ryo to feel her tit?
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>>568016274
This is my fetish.
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https://youtu.be/6nUCRU19rIU?si=RYmgyva1LHUjhGPM

>Stealing moves from Ryo too

Shameful
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>>568020515
All I gather from this is that Ryo would have a shake up as well.
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>All the Americans actually playing interesting and different characters
>All the Mexicans and Asians just playing(abusing) the same ol' 4/5 unga Top tier braindead characters

Expected. Only Americans have souls.
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>>568020515
Wait a minute! There's no way Desk could have made, edited, and posted that reference video so quickly. Did SNK show him the trailer a few days ago so he could make the video and release it at the same time as the trailer? Well, if that's the case, it was a good marketing move, I admit.
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>>568024648
Him and Orpheus have been sponsored to make videos for them ever since last year. Course, begs the question why they don't just pay them to make trailers outright instead of releasing the same shitty 5 seconds of gameplay followed by 10 seconds of EoST menus
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>>568024143
Holy thiccness, Batman.
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>>568025148
Oh, okay. I only realized this now.
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BODEGA
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>>568024143
I really wanna play Chun but I dont wanna pay for the entirety of S1
>but it was free
Not for me who bought the game when it went to $20 last month
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I wonder what they have in mind for Art of Fighting 4
there's no notable cult demand for it like there was for a Garou sequel, it's gonna need to stand out more
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>>568027223
Honestly, I feel like a new AoF game can stand out by tapping into the classic identity. SNK failed to do this with CotW and Fatal Fury (which is at least partially because they had to work up from MotW).
A game that plays like AoF2, but with expanded roster, better feeling inputs and minimal new mechanics. A new fighting game that is actually old school with only slight careful modernizations where it makes sense and as long as they don't contradict the original feel. It can work.
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>>567983118
If their stages had good lighting like this, the bad looking NPCs wouldn't stand out too much. It's how Street Fighter hides them. The bar stage for example looks great, but most of the outdoor ones don't because of it.
A lighting update like XIV got would actually be great.
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>>568026494
That's unfortunate, summer steam sales will be in the next month
Or maybe you can fin a super cheap cd key.

>>568027223
>>568028854
The first thing they should do is remove the 4 from the title. Fans already know (and we don't care).
The concept of an old venerable series coming alive after 35 years don't work. It is not marketable. They did this with COTW and here we are.
Also we need a new artstyle. The art that started with KOFXIV needs to end here. I am the first one who like it and the first one who will defend it. But people don't like it. I can't point what it is but it is not attracting crowds.
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>>568035752
It's probably a reboot like Samsho, not 5. They already said it would be in the 70s
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>>568035947
>not 4*
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>>567958129
>no need for all this forced fanfare around him
you don't understand needless trailer development
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>>568005830
love that midriff with club-hat girl swaying her hips
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>>568035947
Even better. The only doubt if that means not Yuri and a limited roster.
Furthermore, the first AoF is clearly a product of the kyokushinkai craze that swept through 80s Japan. I don't know how that spirit translates to the 202X era.


Go1 and Reynald are amazing.
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>>568024143
White Americans*
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>>568035752
>The first thing they should do is remove the 4 from the title. Fans already know (and we don't care).
They should remove 4 from the title, because in Japan AoF3 was a side story and not a numbered title. Ryuuko no Ken 3 / Art of Fighting 4 would be confusing as fuck.
>The concept of an old venerable series coming alive after 35 years don't work. It is not marketable. They did this with COTW and here we are.
It is marketable, but it doesn't automatically sell a gajillion copies. See SamSho (2019), it did convey what kind of game it is perfectly.
With CotW though, it barely feels like a series return, as it is much more of a MotW sequel with modern reimagined mechanics than a celebration of everything Fatal Fury, despite bringing in the throwback 2-lane / ring out stages.
>Also we need a new artstyle. The art that started with KOFXIV needs to end here. I am the first one who like it and the first one who will defend it. But people don't like it. I can't point what it is but it is not attracting crowds.
I loosely get what you mean, but I doubt that the crowds get the similarities between all the SNK modern games. From a normalfag standpoint CotW style is distinct from the one that was in KoFXIV.
And honestly, if you ask me, I wouldn't trust SNK to start again from the ground up rather than refining and remixing what they already got, seeing how the reception of the visuals actually does improve from the game to game.
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>>568037882
>>568035752
I don't understand how the KOFXIV is similar to what they have now to you all. Unless you mean XV.
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https://x.com/i/status/2058276180269187426
#SNKSponsored
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>>568039697
Lmao nobody likes this company. I think they ask for premium to not say it’s advertised and snk refuses. Because everyone knows capcom also pays creators and they never do this shit, because everyone wants to be on their good side to receive free games.
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>>568040356
>Lmao nobody likes this company.
many are saying this
so i could say, but lol like 10 people at all even pay them any mind
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>>568039556
Case in point.
I'm not an art person myself, so I wouldn't be able to explain it either, but if I had to anyway, I'd say that SNK models and texturing are similar in all of their new 3D games since KoF14, but lighting and shaders completely change how they look, or something like that.
Which is why I doubt that it is a big problem that needs radical solution. The reasons why SNK games quote unquote ""failed"" lie elsewhere.
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In case he hasn't been posted yet, from AFK
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>>568042128
>All Star died for that



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