Update 13 Edition Will there be a Year 3 new class, and will it be the Judiciar?>Update 13.0 patch notes:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/news/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2-shadowdrops-its-purgation-update-just-in-time-for-the-warhammer-skulls-festival>April Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/387-april-community-update>Updated Year 2 Roadmap:Pic Related>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Workaround with matchmaking (defaults to waiting for players instead of looking for games)Queue for siege mode, leave the lobby and requeue for operations.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNB
Oooooh, I'm sexy as FUCK, chooms! Everything I hoped for.
>>567763921Wait.... I just realized.... THERE'S NO LEFT FUCKING HAND BIONIC SABER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB! EVERY. SINGLE. IRON HAND HAS, BARE FUCKING MINIMUM. A LEFT HAND AUGMETIC!!!!
Okay, I will recount half of my melty. There IS a left hand augmetic, but it's not on the Champion skin.
I really am the last one left.... aren't I....?
grim thread
>>567767670My first game ended with a disconnect. Fuck this piece of shit.
how are the new heroics? they appear to have shit base damage compared to balanced.
>>567768008Didn't try them out. Game disconnected, fuck it, I'll be back when I get bored enough to start this piece of shit again.
holy fvvvaaaaark /sm2g/ is that you? it's been forever....
The new mission is quick and easy, literally the Inferno of Chaos missions.
Keep this general alive until we all beat Hard siege mode (with negative modifiers :) ) wave 25 five times :)
the new legs from the acolades shop are pretty nice, primaris are slowly becoming just larger firstborn bit by bit lmao
my gripes on the battle simulator>can't add as many minoris, extremis or a dozen majoris like in a normal absolute game>only the base terminus bosses are available; no hive tyrant, trygon, tyranid primes, mutalith vortex beast which is retarded>can only summon one of each terminus boss, can't even simulate having 2-3 of them at the same time to mimic a hard stratagem modifier or wave 15+ siege mode>needs a timer indicator for balanced, fencing and block; it is a practice mode after all including a reduced timer for mimicing another hard stratagem modifier>needs a move indicator so melee players can see if they're actually making/chaining combos like in fightan gaymesthe practice mode has practically killed fencing; sm2 going forward now is all balanced or blockthere is no excuse not to practice timings for either
>play 700 Absolute games (100 for each class) to unlock le capes
so is the only realistic way to do the triple headshot challenge using the las rifle?
For Bulwark and Assault players the best sidearm is the carbine kekThe heroic heavy bolt pistol is only useful for Tyranid missions
Did the coloring on left arms get fucked up, or is it just me? It’s noticeable on the Iron Hands preset color scheme.
>>567763921I’M CHROMING OUT!!!!
>>567763921Make a David Martinez color scheme
guess what doesn't require you to complete missions solo without bots
>>567764201There is on other classes.Get owned techchud.
the new block chainsword has a long buff duration only for the 3 stack.
>>567776292Dude, can Saber just FUCK. OFF??? Just let us dress up our dudes.
>>567776292I better get to it and do this before they patch it lmao
>missing legion emblems addedFINALLYNever has someone possessed drip so IMMACULATE
>>567778769FOR THE EMPEROR!
>>567778769Fucking IMMACULATE
>>567776292I don't get it
>>567778769Fuckin' nice.
>>567784542you get progress on that ordeal playing with other players
>>567775104It definitely is. Trying to recolor the white on the new servo harness, you can't change the white to any color.
>>567787802Amazing. Russian programming is truly the greatest in the world.
Disruption's game ending is bugged, it won't reach the score screen.
Hard siege mode has 100 blue Doritos if you beat it weekly up to wave 15
The new mission is kinda.... boring. That ending was so disappointing. No new boss or ANYTHING? Really? All this time we had to wait just for a regular ass wave of enemies to come through? I don't even think there were any Rubricae or Terminators mixed in, just Tzaangors and Meatballs.
>>567790693It's quick and fast, the new Inferno
>all those retards with no perks because they just switch loadoutsSaber is stupid
>>567790785Inferno has some decent arenas in it, is only Nids, and has a cool ending that feels straight out of a novel. This was lame as fuck.
>>567790964Doesn't matter, it's another map for grinding now
everyone should get the smg carbine
>>567794348There shouldn't be classes at all.
All of the Ultras have new ability dialogue for every class now.
>>567795861https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1uvV0UyEuQ
a retvrn to tradition
>Marines Malevolent icon on 100 Absolute winsKWAB
>on top of a rock platform>teammate sees a Biovore on water>immediately drops down and tries to kill it>dies from surprise sporesIt's been 2 years...why do fucking idiots still try to kill everything?
>>567797292see you in 50 hours
You have to be low IQ to complain about Purgation's length and natural difficulty.No dedicated Terminus boss, no stupid puzzles (just shoot flying orbs to release Guardsmen who will do nothing), final battle is comfy hold your position and crush eye orb thingy.Knowing Saber they'll ruin this kino map and add a Mutalith Vortex Beast in the final area.
>>567797248>dumping a couple rounds into enemies>they actually die SM1 > SM2
you can play as a real iron warrior nowstill can't play as a pre-heresy thousand snus though since their shiny red doesn't exist
>>567798570No.
>>567798091It’s boring as hell.
>>567798890Yes. SM2 is objectively worse.
>>567797248Now post yourself fighting a Nob.
>>567799403No.
Valtus cant CANNOT kill rubrics past wave 15. I am never playing this mode again.
>>567803749I noticed that he wont target the Vortex Beast, and I'm wondering if it's the same with the Hive Tyrant
>>567803985I wouldnt know. All he did was stand still and shoot his flamer at the same group of 5 rubrics for the whole 5 minutes he was out, and did not kill a single one of them.
>>567803520Yes.
Are the season passes worth it at all as a co-op only player? I know it's only cosmetics but I need to know if they're good cosmetics
>>567804678Before the changes that let you use champion items outside that specific skin I would have said no, but now it's a extremely hesitant "get it on sale"
>>567803749>Valtus cant CANNOT kill rubrics past wave 15.WDYM
>>567805003Every 10 minutes in seige adds a stacking 10% damage resistance to enemies meaning by wave 15 you are doing less than half your initial damage. Valtus was already nerfed in siege mode now he does literally 0 damage past wave 15 because of the stacking damage resistance.He cant kill basic fucking rubric marines.Im buying a drone for Azov and I will post its kill cam here if they ever send it to me.
>>567805003Saber, in their infinite wisdom, made it to where enemies get HP/damage buffs every 10 minutes or so that's separate from the general increases that they get from each wave block.
>>567805214>>567805254Fucking Saber, then the accolades are near impossible to get
How to kill three majoris with one headshot on absolute.
>>567805643sniper with las fusil and tactical with exploding perkits a 2 man job
>>567805390There isnt a fucking soul on Earth that is ever going to get this challenge done. Every fucking day that goes by, Russian stupidity somehow outdoes itself.>>567805643Max damage fusil, go into Inferno solo without bots and walk down the hill. If there are more than 3 ranged nidders there you can corral them together by walking back and forth between the spawn area and where the first tarantula turret would spawn. Took me like 20 minutes to get all 3. You don't need to complete the mission for it to count. You can just quit out and do it again.
>>567798091It's. Fucking. BORING.
>>567806058Yeah, this would've been great to have when the mode first launched. These guys are fucking retarded.
>>567806058Why without bots? What if a Terminus shows up on the burning Chimera?
>>567806318you dont go that faryou dont have to finish the missionall you have to do is walk down the hill from spawnsee if there are 3+ ranged nidders you can aggro to youwalk back up the hill and down again until they are close enough together to killthen return to the battle barge
>>567806318>>567806791forgot image to prove im not bullshitting
>>567803182
Are Power Axes good now with their heroic?Is the mongolian sword good?
>>567807068>>567797248WE NEED DA BOYZ BACK
>>567797404ALL BIOVORES MUST DIEFUCK BIOVORESRAPE BIOVORESBIOOOOOVORRESSSS FUUUUUUUCKKKK YOUUUUU
>can't practice against the Hive Tyrant, Trygon, Tyranid Primes and Mutalith Vortex BeastThey really deserve to get droned on Moscow
Now that we don't need to always headshot is the Heavy heavy bolter saved?I want a reason to play a weapon beside the plasma on it
>>567807582Bolters still do shit damage.
Saber are retards but so is GW forcing them and others studio to release/have release dates for MUH SKULLS eventMechanicus 2 prime example of game that still needed 6 months of dev time
>>567808642the update is okay outside of the bullshit accolade rewards and the "new" siege modenew operation is actually great, beats off the mindless inferno spam
>>567808738>inferno but with poison swamp and chaosNo
>>567808738>Inferno but chaosIs shit because Chaos is shit.
I know theres a cheaterannon in here. Have you found the memory address for the ordeals? Can they even be modified?
Wait a fucking second wasnt it 250 for the hard weekly? Now its 175?
>>567810686yepdo the hard siege to 15 pidorits more boy love triangles this way
>>567810901>Cut triangles down>New siege is worse>Skill regen on tech is bugged and will just pause randomly >Expecting people to play hundreds of more games on absolute to get drip fed cosmetics Nope im out fuck this
>>567811413>>Skill regen on tech is buggedThis has been a bug since he came out. Like nearly every bug in this game, its never getting fixed.
New mission is mid. Its okay I guess. Heroic plasma pistol on tac is a fucking meme. You need a primary that can get you CHP back otherwise you turn into a stim siphon.
>Log in>See my tech marine cosmetic unlock progress reverted by 14 missions>Log out
>>567814253I wonder if I can refund the Iron Hands pack. I thought being able to play dress up and kill Nidders as my favorite Chapter would keep me playing, but I got one Ruthless game in on the new map and have no interest in going back. Not even for the cosmetic shit.
>>567815469>did 0 testing The number of people who glaze this dogshit game is amazing
>>567816048Can't believe we have a whole nother year of this shit.
Is this the update that finally kills SM2?
>>567814253Emperor's Spears?
>>567817618Hopefully. None of the existing bugs got fixed and the patch introduced new ones again.And the already bad siege mode, which was just a boring slog before, is now unplayable. Every single update has just been profound stupidity. Saber doesn't deserve to exist.
Heavy bolter isnt half bad now.>>567818617Nah just ultramarines. I like the white helmet. Tho Emperors Spears is tempting.
>>567819152Heroic heavy bolter or relic accuracy heavy bolter?
Practice mode is missing ping simulation of up to <350ms
>>567819227Heroic.
why do I keep getting queued into 300 ping games how is there still not a goddamn latency limit on matchmaking saber you triple niggers
>>567819152That helmet looks like it was made to do an Emp Spear marine honestly
>>567820035Yeah youre right, this fucks hard.
>>567820281Fucking kino
Wow they really fucked Siege mode didn't they
hello threadI bought this game expecting it to be a one-and-done singleplayer game but it seems there's a live service part?anyways is it worth participating or should I just stick to offline singleplayer?
I fucking missed you guys.Also cool little tidbit, they added more VO for all the heads for each class. Decimus is fucking unhinged as Assault.https://youtu.be/Z1uvV0UyEuQ?si=CGvOz55s50OxbFlR
>>56782090790% of the game is looping the coop missions
>>567820907It's not really "live service." There are random events where you can get time-gated cosmetics, but otherwise it's more like a classic co-op shooter experience. Operations is where all the meat and bones are when you're done with the campaign.
>>567820970This game is slowly, begrudgingly, AGONIZINGLY, becoming what it should have been to begin with. Too bad its going to take another 2 to 3 years for it to get there.
Does the Tech Priest generate currency or ammo? I don't know what it means by resources.
Yeah nobody is getting that survive to Wave 25 in one run on Hard challenge. By Wave 23 on normal as Assault I was struggling, and Assault mogs Siege.
>>567819981That means there's no one playing in your nearest region aka ded gaymet. SEAnigger getting East Australia/US West
Why do they keep piling on anti-player modifiers on siege mode?Just rename Hard as Ruthless or Absolute and run base values there from waves 1-25+
>>567819981It means everyone that you WOULD connect to normally is either at work/school or sleeping
>>567820907the single player part is a (massively outdated) tutorial to pve mode.
>>567822218>>567822023I refuse to believe that there's no one on central us even at 1 am at least match me with us west instead of ho lee phuc's lobby on the other side of the planet
>>567822642Small indie company please understand
>>567822642get a job. stop drinking. you're wasting your life.
>>56782264213k current players isn't a lot
>>567822642I would bet that they fucked up something as usual, at this point it's part of the jank, muskovites are too stupidly prideful to admit real fault, I will just keep enjoying my favorite game despite that, at least we did get a lot of nice stuff
>>567822730NTA but come on, 13K on Steam alone with crossplay is well above the average. Darktide has like 4K players on a good day.
>>567822862Without the update SM2 only gets like <10k a day and <12k on weekly refresh day
>>567822932That's still really damn high? In regards to co-op games of this style that beat it out, the only ones I can think of are Left 4 Dead 2 and Helldivers 2.Far Far West was beating it but it's dipped hard.
>>567822932take 10Kpresume 2000 of them are playing campaignpresume another 1000 are playing pvp (generous)with 7k players, considering you only need 1 other person to make it technically a co-op run, i mean that's just straight up 7K potential co-op games for you to join, and the system intentionally prioritizes getting 3 people in lobbies. so if we were to only count 3-person lobbies, that's 3500 potential co-op games. more than enough.
>>567824067>7kDivide it by 5 for latency regions.
Leaked cosmetics for the next update/events.UltramarinesDeathwatchLamenters beat to shit
>>567825235Whoops, accidentally posted one of the images from my clipboard instead of the whole thing I put together.
>>567825362>More Victrix Guard>Actual final proper Deathwatch arm and chestBetter late than never, jeez.
>>567825235where are the guardsmen you were sent to relieve, brother?WHERE ARE THEY, BROTHER
New heroic PF will be DW themed apparently (if only in name)And there's another TH heroic incoming as well. It will have a whirlwind animation.
>>567825871>Thunder Hammer with power sword whirlwindOh damn that might fuck.
>>567825362>deathwatchI dont even care about them but FUCKING FINALLY
>>567825362>>567826116Considering they changed the entire model of the battle-worn pauldron, I'm expecting the arm to take that dumb shit silver arm labelled "Deathwatch" from initial release and change it to that one above.
>>567825871And here's the animation for the new heroic TH (applied on the axe):https://streamable.com/cob9buhttps://streamable.com/2h38zq
>join hard siege>get to wave 5>fighting neuro>get beamed>pop cloak to heal>doesn't heal>turns out the first pennance they got is "squad unity" (no contested hp out of range)>say gl to them and leave
>>567825362I’m gonna fucking CUM FOR THE EMPRAH
>>567826479Chairon is so kawaii...
>>567826479God the Titus blush is fucking cursed lmao
>>567826356
https://youtu.be/Cgoqrgc_0cM?si=TMijJqO-aOpQA4R4
>>567826479>that warriorhear me out guys
>>567826915
>>567826479Sugoii!
>join hard siege in progress>squad unity>leave>join hard siege in progress>level 1 tech marine>leave>join hard siege in progress>split up (reverse squad unity)>leave>join hard siege in progress>no gunstrikes>leaveI'm tired boss.
>>567827963if you want to play hard siege just post codes
Imagine my shock (none) when it turned out the one-handed Bolt Carbine sucks eggs.>Accuracy version which can actually hit things has zero ammo>Ammo version which can survive more than two encounters can't hit shit
>>567829313What gets me is that they think 10 rounds is worth cutting the accuracy in half, and how both variants are effectively just the primary version with half the ammo pool
>>567820970This is actually pretty fucking neat
>>567829313Still better than the heroic heavy bolt pistol.
The play 100 absolute missions aren't completed retrospectively. Ain't no way.
I fucking hate how thin, weak and anemic the augmetic arms look.
the stacking enemy buff in hard siege is actually insane I had a 30% bonus headshot damage blessing and still was taking like 2 full bolter mags of headshots to get a rubric marine to execute on wave 14 this shit is not fun
>>567830263it's supposed to entice you to play more, not reward you for doing a good job.
>>567821321It generates the currency
>>567826530And dead.
>>567831857Still mad.
>>567825235>>567825362Lamenters look gnarly
>get to wave 13 on hard siege>host crashes>game assigns me as host without interruption>we get gaped because the modifier was squad unity and we're a player down>some random guy connects>whole game freezes>loading screen>wave starts over>modifier now looks like pic related and is off>chaos spawning alongside nids
>>567831857>And dead.Not just him.
>chaos beast spamming waves halfway through the map downing guys through walls>we clear 15>exit back to barge>I get x1 skin reward instead of x3>I get no accolades>all this to suffer through no gunstrike, friendly fire, and squad unityI will not be playing siege mode again
is this game worth buying? I never played warhammer game before
It also looks like they will be adding new voice lines for each class with the next patch >Telorian as Vanguard: https://voca.ro/1knEe9z8bQEm>Tactical Strabanhttps://voca.ro/14mlTUyzmiEL>Valius valiantly rasing the bannerhttps://voca.ro/16jVWkGhZTNa>Decimus using the jump packhttps://voca.ro/1jTbde2edJSv
>>567832602Yeah, it's good fun up until the absolute edge of difficulty which is like extreme late game content which is where you'll find most of us bitching. It gets updates every 2-3 months and just got a Year 3 roadmap confirmed down the line.
>>567832747See>>567820970They're in the game now.
>>567763173For archival purposes, the last Battle-barge: >>563834128
With those cosmetics changes they made I'm starting to tentatively look forward to Raptors pack.It's a fucking scam they are not letting most hardcore players unlock those wargear goodies retroactively though. Fucking Saber....
>>567832827Ah, my bad.
>>567829764Anon, since when are devs concerned with things like logic and fun people might have?
oh shit they updated the tyrannid pauldron it looks sick now
I didn't realize this weekly modifier stopped the jetpack dash refund from working. That's pretty fucking lame.
>>567833916They actually went all out on it. Have a look across every class and armor type, it now has a unique model for Tacticus, Phobos, Gravis and even Bladeguard.This should be the standard for all armor pieces.
Finally, I won't ever be afraid of Chaos Spawns>>567820970>>567832747Great, now lift class restrictions and allow class stacking
>>567835041Just give up hope, anon. That's a Space Marine 3 thing at most.
>>567826479>>567827016
thats pretty awesome being able to swap to heal flag load out if you need it
Precision Targeting or Squad Renewal?
i dont think the heroic axe is worth it at all, there are zero situation in which i want to save the power sweep
Curious as to why the Wolfspears were never included in the Space Wolves DLC pack when they are for all intents and purposes the only official and fleshed out successor Chapter. Specifically a new batch of Primaris Marines made by Gulliman and Cawl with their geneseed.
>>567832602Do not, it's a coop game that has one final update left and then the devs are abandoning it to work on Space Marine 3
>>567838421>Game literally confirmed to have a Year 3 incoming>Yeah bro it's dead
>>567838525proofs?
>>567838684Bro?https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/387-april-community-update
>>567838421wut? they confirmed sm3 not long ago...
>>567838827fuck.
>>567838684Year 3 got confirmed here.https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/387-april-community-update
>>567837805why would you want to reduce weapon spread for the entire team as a sniper? You can't make other people press the middle button.
>>567839303It's not the weapon spread, it's the extra ranged damage to Extremis and Terminus enemies.
>>567839357yeah sorry don't know the names by heart and i checked a website that apparently never got updated
>It's the "spending four hours in the armory trying to perfect my fit" episode
>>567833025>6 heroic weaponsnot half bad
Heavy did not get Kraken Penetrator rounds so the heavy bolter is still useless...also the heavy plasma only has one perk for common shots and everything else are for charged shots and fucking melee
>>567839748Went to make a RG bladeguard veteran and got raped by no capes for bulwark!
>>567837805is use squad renewal because i use reload on cloak instead of personal renewal. i think squad renewal is his most op skill anyways
>>567826736Awoooo, Brother
>>567843481
>>567806058>>567806791It's been hours and these fucking nidders stay in staggered formation so my shots just barely miss.
Let's hope they will reduce the fucking grind. Shit's ridiculous.t. 900 hrs sunk into sm2
>>567845083>oh no, grind ordeals require grinding
>>567845719There's grinding and then there's excessive grinding, Anonku. Someone clearly went overboard locking new features behind a such a gargantuan grindwall.
>>567845719I already have 700 hours in this game and I'm probably not going to play for 700 more to do these ordeals.
>>567845719IMO the problem isn't the grind, it's that nothing was retroactive. People have done the math and concluded it's about 33ish hours per class to get all their capes/cloaks if you hard grind and play nothing else. Everybody here probably accrued that over the last two years.
>>567845083they better>>567845719>devs don't value players' timeoh no I guess I'm not doing those any time soon if they don't change them>>567846043this
>No toothy beakie to go with the new Marines Malevolent iconCringe
No Raptors pack leaks?
>>567833916That one makes me actually want to wear it
Am I retarded? Who can even wear this?
>>567845083Yeah, shit's retarded. I get them wanting to feel it like a reward for skill (Absolute ain't that hard), but bro, 100 per class? 10 or 20 should've been perfectly fine, maybe like 30 at most.
>>567851290Tactical.
>>567851705>ordeal that requires sniper gives a cosmetic for tacWhat the fug
>>567851817They are not smart, these gopniks.
Is the unlock condition for the xenos hunter gauntlet broken? It's been stuck on one more operation for the past three operations I've completed.
>>567852095Its requirement is completing ALL operations on Absolute, not any. You need to complete the new one on max diff.
Show me your drip already, faggots.
>>567856280Sorry bruv, can't put anything on my dude yet. Come back in 3 months so we can unlock everything.
>Two variants of firstborn leg armor>Complete rework of two shoulder parts so they use unique Primaris armor for every class>Still no mirrored Mk6 shoulderBro
>>567853340I need to get that Brazen Skulls badge.
>>567858437Meant for>>567856280
>>567856280For the God Emperor
I think they could have worded the heroic axe better. It just lets me use power backstep anytime I want provided I "store" it, right?
>>567860000checkedIs the new sidearm carbine any good? Feels like it has no ammo whatsoever.
>>567861290it's a dogshit weapondon't waste doritos on it
>>567862970A faster block axe sounds good to me, only because the speed of the relic block axe's swings make me feel like a slug.
>>567862703NiceThe carabine is fun,I don't have the relic one yet, but it's not bad, just ammo hungry
>>567863095it doesn't fucking matter if the weapon is barely faster when the damage is dogshit and the only moves you still care about is the powerstep that you will do immediatly literally every single fucking timeShit stats, pointless heroic perk = it's literal dogshit, top 3 worst heroics in the entire game
This is a good pack
Anyone have the White Scars champ pack? I want to see how it looks on the Tactical.
>>567826356>>567826705This is fucking hilarious.
Instigator Bolt Rifle fucking slaps after the changes. I'm using the bonus ammo variant and it's doing work on Absolute.
>>567845083100 per class and the siege mode requirements are fucking stupidAlso they removed no modifiers siege mode
>>567865412you don't get legs, left arm, or backpack on tac
1h smg is so fun to use, too bad its an ammo whore basically the heavy plasma of sidearms, it needs more ammo
I killed the vortex beast in 4 shots. Plasma tac is so back. Ignore the death, I got sabotaged by the fucking nigger heavy.
>>567872676>Plasma tc is so back.Plasma never went away, the Pyreblaster just gives more retarded ranged score.
you don't get the accolade reward for siege mode if you queue into a match in progress even if you enter on the first wave...
Heroic plasma pistol really is something else.
>>567874659>get hit>can't recover CHP because its too slow firing
>>567875349Plasma primary.
>>567874659>>567875445Did you let the heroic pistol charge a bit to activate Tact's plasma boost talent?
>>567875563No, you get two shots before overheat with this build.
>>567875716I meant let the heat build up while you hold it at full charge.
>>567874659>Nerf the Pyreblaster because it was melting bosses>Give us a giga-plasma
>>567874659whats the % damage more it does? i like using common shots on the pistol so i might not use it
>>567877164Its nerfed now?
>>56787745920% reduced burn damage
>>567877459>>567877503On Terminus only, you still burn the shit out of everything else but an auspex'd burn fucking annihilated boss HP bars even on Absolute. That being the only nerf to the pyreblaster is honestly fine.
>>567877503>>567877652Lmao its shit now
>>567877213You are profoundly retarded if you are using common shots on any plasma other than heavy.
>>567878473common shots shred minoris. they are specially good vs ranged gaunts
What a fucking pile of shit
>>567879248lmao okay retard
>>567879775you never thought to try it? maybe if i make a post on reddit about it youll believe me
anyone have the new chainsword to test the damage? is it worth?
>>567880176i would use it over non heroic block or fencing, but balanced is still the most damage. it's speed makes up for its less damage, but the block effect is so powerful it might be preferrable to balanced. the extra cleave is pretty useless except for maybe assault ground pound. two stacks of block still let you stagger enemies, but three stacks has a longer buff duration. i am not sure the %damage buff of each stack, the tool tip says its different.
>>567879725i genuinely don't understand how they could make the first heroic power axe so garbage
>>567879725The Block mechanic is what preventing it from having higher damageA Heroic Block with the same damage as a Relic version would be literally OP
>>567881158at STR 12 and that meaningless perk makes it literal unplayablezero reason to use this over any of the relicDoes it atleast outdamage the relic fencing lmao?
>>567881334It has the same damage as the fencing relic
>>567881334I only use the Fencing Power Axe and I'm doing fine.
the autobolt rifle is decent too now, could be used either with kraken bolts but the 15% dmg boost is better if you are getting head shots. but this is the smg with kraken bolts
>>567882907
>hive tyrant spawns outside the map on siege I am so fucking tired dude.
How much are they being reduced? 5%? 10%?
>>567883961Instead of 100 you only need to beat them 50 times :)
>One-handed SMG>Killing 10 enemies in quick succession restores 1 armorBro it has 1 piercing and zero ammo how the fuck are you meant to even entertain this?
>>567886358Is there a comparison between the regular carbine and the pistol SMG?
>want the reload on gunstrike for 1H smg>but all the perks before it are garbage
>>567886918Go top and then bottom, the last top perks are trash
>>567763173>Other useful links>https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBI wonder if the voice lines compiler anon can make one for the newest operation
>>567889970>I wonder if the voice lines compiler anon can make one for the newest operationI can scrounge up some time for that. No prob.
>>567890151Appreciate it, brother.
>stopped playing while levelling assault>came back for patch>already hate the fuck out of assaultMost miserable experience i have in this game is playing assault
>>567891292Assault is awful below Prestige IV lv25The one perk that enable the class is that high locked
>>567891648yeah playing the class at lethal is just too much for me.I honestly doubt i gonna play it a single second after i finish prestige 4 lv25 itIt is just that fucking bad
>>567892597Even without the invulnerability while preparing ground pound if you aren't jetpack dodging you shouldn't be playing Assault at all.Jetpack dodge spam is the only viable way to play Assault in Absolute/hard stratagem. Ground pound is an absolute meme since your teammates/bots will kill as many Minoris in the area before you ever land and Minoris swarm defense are only a handful in Operations.
>>567894543the mobility and stagger of ground pound is what makes it good. you can ground pound on any ground of 6 minoris with no downsides
>>567826356>>567826705Neat
>>567889970>>567890692No problem, Brother. Here's the entire transcript with formatting. I also took the liberty of updating the pastebin.Enjoy!
>>567901808>it has been an honor brothers, I have lived long enoughKekMany thanks, brother.
Veridian and Talasa are getting ridiculous feats now. They’re starting to make Titus look small by comparison.
heavy got the best stuff from the cosmetic update
>>567906592They better add a fucking fur pelt cape.
>>567906592>Gravis Captainmaxxing.If only the HBR wasn't complete dogshit on heavy. Granted, I've been pining for Inceptor helmets for a while now just so I can make double plas heavy look appropriate.
>>567905168>Talasa: Slays a hive tyrant and a pair of tyranid primes>Veridian: Stops a daemonhost, a heldrake, and a trygon prime>Collectively take down a hierophant and a mutalith vortex beastI thought we were going to fight an exalted sorcerer as an end-level fight
>>56788630150 is still a lot but its more reasonable than fucking 100. The other one is the 1000 waves of siege mode, NOBODY is going to do that not even the faggot streamers.
It would have been perfectly reasonable if it counted runs retroactively.
>>567908884Cant retroactively add progress for something that was never tracked in the first place.
>>567908968Some of the starting ordeals is clearing missions 10 times though.
>>567881158Cause it should have been fencing imo. Get your gunstrike AND power wave, use them when you need.
Why combo of light+light+heavy attacks on old block chainsword on tact doing different damage to ravener depending on if you attack him after all 3 of his attacks or interrupt his combo after 2nd? I got 2 adrenaline in both cases but heavy attack in 2nd scenario deals way less damage (200 instead of 290).
>>567905168They’re the sole reason Second Company hasn’t collapsed under the weight of Acheran’s incompetence.
>>567908183I think we just got confirmation that Talasa was the Squad that went through Termination. Purgation, which features Veridian, takes place about an hour after Termination starts.
Outside of taking Aligned Aim (lol) I think this is the most damage you can get out of this thing. Relentless Pursuit is way overkill and you'll still kill it in a single gunstrike + two charged shots without it.>>567908968They track shit as minute as how many players specific enemies have killed. I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have made these ordeals retroactive if they wanted/thought to.
>start a Siege match alone>atonement is split-up>bots stick to you like flies to shit so you can never recover armourI just want to get to wave 15.
>>567912027seems like an interesting option for classes that dont actually need their side arm
>>567912491you can reroll the modifier at the blessing terminal
>>567912027DESU why not take aligned aim when you have a pocket melta bomb?
>still no storm wardens sigil>they added a shitton of gayos sigils>still can't just use chaos armor in pvefucking faggots i hope russia gets gassed
>>567917998You need to tailor the suffering. Remove their vodka and gay rape in the military until morale improves, and suddenly everything starts working
>>567771968>the practice mode has practically killed fencingNot for me. I can use block just fine in the practice arena but i still suck at using it in operations. It's like the timing is different. Probably because the practice mode runs at 60fps for me but operations is more variable.
>>567905168Even more reason why SM2 should have been an actual Deathwatch game.Then in SM3 they'll be all killed off unceremoniously or offed offscreen like Chairon and Captain Scotland.
>>567918285Practice mode needs a ping simulator, unless you're running solo no one is playing at 0 ping all the timeMake it a slider from 0 (default solo) to 350Also make the arena area much larger so it can accommodate the Hive Tyrant, Trygon, Tyranid Primes, Mutalith Vortex Beast and place Terminus limit at 3 at a time to simulate actual Hard siege mode conditions
>>567922634you are brown
>auspex thrope>gun jams>side arm jams
Heavy bolter is pretty enjoyable now desu.>>567923771Old bug. Probably as old as the game at this point, its never getting fixed. Its an animation state issue.
>>567923182Go back to /coopg/.
>>567923927is this the heroic or the regular one
>>567925834heroic
should i waste blue chips on the heavy bolt gun? how good could it possible be compared to the accuracy?
The ordeals should be 10 Absolute missions maxed; like beat Inferno to Purgation 10 timesThe sniper one needs multiple solo Inferno restartsThe siege mode stuff is plain stupid, they deserved to get droned hard for even coming up with this stuff; they need to rework it for the TechmarineAlso the prestige perks are still universal instead of loadout only, not really a problem save for the Bulwark who needs Overcharge for the Fist and Sword and the Thunderhammer doesn't benefit from the 1% ability regen shield
>>567928147it's basically a damage+ version of the relic heavy bolter with instant venting upon fencing parryyou're not meant to shoot far with it and is best used for close-medium range where you parry melee attacks and keep shooting
>>567911778>talasa kills nids, veridian kills chaosChecks out
Wait this isn't an intelligence lapse stratagem.
Release the greatsword
Why are they so hostile to new players like me...Why do I have to play for 15 hours to max out one class.....
>>567928238>Also the prestige perks are still universal instead of loadout only, not really a problem save for the Bulwark who needs Overcharge for the Fist and Sword and the Thunderhammer doesn't benefit from the 1% ability regen shieldAnd Sniper with Versatile Precision not working on the heroic BSRAnd Tactical with Acuity when using Plasma/Pyreblaster (and to a lesser extent Techmarine with the Plasma Incinerator, but who uses that on the Techmarine?)
>>567923771>The Machine Spirits' idea of a "joke"
>buy heroic axe>low damage block>but save the steppy!>99% i find mysf just blasting it as soon as i parry because it feels more natural, it's only way to actually do damage and can't literally make the power step 99% of the time i save it without doing a parry firstDoing the power step is just akward as fuck without doing a parry first, like the move was not designed to be "saved" for later useFeels actually bad buying this heroic
>>567935747>must release patch for MUG SKULL :)It's a bad heroicIf this patch had a proper test server time it would have not made it through like this
>>567935747I want to ask the person who came up with the idea for the heroic axe to explain in what situation you would ever want to "save" the power backstep after blocking an attack. Because I really cannot imagine why I would ever not want to immediately interrupt my attacker and anything around it with a fuckload of damage.Oh well, at least the plasma pistol is good. Not sure about the White Scars chainsword, it has a higher potential than the regular block chainsword but takes longer to get there and I'm not sure if that's worth it.And the one-handed bolt carbine is there too, I guess.
>>567936931>parry>dash away>do the attack>don't pull it off because the game was not designed that way and instead just overhead smash>just whiff the fuck out of itXoxoxoxo :)
>>567936931There is noneIt's a counter to a parry so holding a counter for when you are not parrying is stupidSkin it over the balance power axe
>>567935747If the heroic power axe had like 17-18 damage, has block and also has the backstep it will be too OP no one will use the other melee weapons.
>>567938008It’s an encarmine axe it should be too op
should go back to SM1 meleeno one wants to play Balanced since the timing is too dogshit and a session killer if your ping is like 100+no one wants to play Fencing because it does paltry damageno one wants to play Block because you lose parrying and the timing is also tighter than Fencing
There's 100 blue doritos on the weekly siege, is it worth pursuing?
>Assault DecimusNO DISTANCE WILL SAVE YOU
>>567939871>TAKE YOUR LAST BREATH
>all these uppity Iron Losers appearing all over in PvE and SiegeKWAB
Disclaimer: This test was performed with Auxiliary Arsenal and Practiced Aim.Man what a piece of shit. You're pretty much trading damage, accuracy and ammo capacity in exchange for full auto. There's no reason to use it.
How do you even pull this off? Did Saber playtest this on Absolute themselves?
>>567943783Give it more ammo
anyone want to attempt hard wave 25?
Did they seriously increase the time investment required to get the same amount of blue doritos in a week? Like it's bad enough having to do the normal difficulty borefest stratagem just for the gibs but I might actually blow my brains out having to do 15 waves of normal siege just for 50 of them.
>>567946496Make a custom strat, put it on hard inferno, modifiers to do more damage past 10 meters and spawn more majors. Grab the las fusil and max beam width and damage. Just start the mission, look for the shot, and restart till you get it.
Shot a biovore in Absolute with the heroic plasma pistol and it immediately got put into red. I wonder if the detonating spore mines close to it contributed to this
Sabre, in their infinite wisdom, made it so horms and terms now spawn 3 (three) spore mines on death with that mod. Thank you very much!
>release a big patch after the biggest lull in content for the game a week before the month ends>community post due next weekWill they even announce anything significant next week
>>567935747yeah samePremise i am not assault IV Lv25 yet and never played power axes so i suffer skill issue hard every single time i hold on the backstep i just can't use it, it does overhead axe smashes but no power step when i hold on the button.Meanwhile after a parry the power step is just >parry>hold mouse button>doneShould i switch to a different power axe? which one is the best for assault?
>>567950434you need to perfect dodge to put back into the stance to power step.Normally Power Axe does Parry > Step > smash chain combo before moving and the step+smash is a counter attack combo and works as suchThe heroic axe allows you to>parry -> enter stance -> dodge -> counter with the stepthat's it, the heroic perk enable another way to counter attack but it's still underwhelming and you can't chain the smash
>>567950434>which one is the best for assault?Relic Block or Relic BalanceBoth are good and both are miles better than Heroic Power AxeThis shit at 12 is way too fucking low damage for it's perk, need to be atleast 16 dmg
Space Wolves won hard in the cosmetic update god damn.
Maybe next patch, we can also change sniper's prestige perks so I'm not gimped.
>>567952835They should just let us buy all of the prestige perks, add new ones we can spend on and rotate them on loadouts.They can even add prestige 5 to make it symmetrical and have 5 prestige perks.
why are disk trangors tankier than rubric marines does anyone know?
>>567953809Shoot them in the head.
>enter wave 11>Shadow of the Warp>change the modifier>Strike Out
>>567832858BWAHAHAHAHAHHA
Am I insane or is this way better?
>>567954270it's like the 3rd best sidearmhbp > plasma > neovolkite > bolt pistol > inferno > smg
>>567954270I think the bonus damage to main health pools in exchange for removing the headshot bonus has directly buffed all weapons like plasma, volkit and meltas.
The new mission fucking sucks and I keep getting hit for half my health from fucking nowhere in missions now
>>567957126I blame the poison swamp for the reason it feels so dogshit
>>567957193>SM2 is now miyazaki-approved
>>567938008Noone will use it anyway now
>>567957193It's honestly not that horrid for most of the time if you follow the clean paths, but there is one specific area where you can fight a Hellbrute and a bunch of Extremis that is ass cancer lol
>Almost day two of doing nothing but trying to kill three majoris with a single headshotI don't know what I'm doing wrong. I load into Inferno, it takes 20 minutes to find three warriors who won't bombard me with ranged weapons, I get them stunned and go invisible and line my shot up, and then I miss one of their brains by a hair and none of it matters.
>>567922370Chairon getting off screened is still complete bullshit.
>>567959202Custom strat works with more majoris, just restart until you get them packed up at the start
>>567959630Even though it says all rewards are off? Do I just do the more majoris one?
>>567959739I did more majoris, more damage beyond 10m and less enemy hp without executions. Dunno if last one required for oneshot but why not. Did all 3 in like 5-10 min. On vid 2 out of 3.
>>567940304SLAUGHTER FROM ABOVE
>>567959928I literally just got it in one. I feel retarded but thanks from my dudes, anon. Help yourself to a successor chapter.
>warning that says "YOU CAN'T COMPLETE ORDEALS IN CUSTOM GAMES I'M SUPER SERIOUS IT WON'T WORK">it actually works just fine
>encarmine axe power wave is greenis it really so hard to change particle colors
Reminder that Siege is now balanced around the modifiers terminal near the elevator and if you don't engage with them you will start eating shit by Wave 15.
>>567948053Yes, everything rewards fewer accolades now because you can get them from siege mode
NO ONE LIKES SIEGE
>>567966585I don't mind it, but the devs need to stop being reminded that shit like Squad Coherency is not fun.
I hope dudewall anon is doing okay...
>>567971604we need him back now more than ever, the drip is upon us and the wall needs some updating
>>567959202Start a custom stratagemAdd all ranged modifiersAdd enemy exploding via headshotsAdd more Majoris enemiesAdd useless negative modifierPlay on Hard InfernoUse max damage Las Fusil with max wide beamWhen you start the mission make sure you find a clump of Warriors perched on the rock and align one headshot
>>567966585No one plays the mode...so vatnik's idea is to add negative modifiers on it and add more player debuffs.
>>567963150doesn't really matterhard siege mode is still tactical and vanguard landnot having these two classes will wipe out your entire teamthere's also chodes who keep buying shit early in the session and not having relics, heavy bots and medkits from wave 11+
it took nearly 2 months to get this class to prestige 4 lv25Jesus fucking christ. this was legit exhausting and still have no fucking clue how it plays properly because i never stayed high level long enoughmaybe now that have all the jet packs perks i can start figure out how this shit plays
>>567977104GP only works in siege mode where there are a ton of enemies but Assault is ass on Hard, in normal Absolute or the average weekly stratagem your teammates will wipe the area clean before you even pound down.
>>567977671I am not sure what weapon if focus on for nowFist have the heroic but feels a bit boringGot the Necron sword but havn't played it much to have a strong opinionI am kinda finding cool the power axe gimmick of counter attacks but the heroic axe damage does feel a bit low
>>567978032Balanced fist is by far the best melee weapon for assault. Xenophase is probably the best for a pure wings of flame dash build. Power axe is a parry stick, its combo damage is the worst out of all the melee weapons.
>>567978032If you're playing Assault the only Fencing melee you should use is the heroic Power Fist and Thunderhammer, the latter is so good there's no point using the regular one.Everything in your main slot should be Block and/or Balanced for max damage.For normal Relic Power Fist you can use either but you need to max out Cannon Punch (bottom row first then top row in the middle all the way to the end).For chainsword use Block and for Relic power axe use Balanced since you need speed for combos. For power sword use Balanced, Fencing power sword are for gay traditional Bulwarks who still have Intimidating Aura and Shock AoE on.
>>567978215>>567978656speaking of fish how you even pull off half of these combos anywaysNo way you are not getting interuppted in the middle of these
>>567980501You don't, you only fully charge your Fist and you need the perk that lets you punch again in a full charge.There's also a perk that makes you immune to knockback and makes you take less damage while Fisting.
I'm thinking that they were supposed to put the Terminator Sorcerer as the final boss in Purgation but ran out of time and said cyka blyat.
>>567982029Between that, the new heroics being underpowered, techmarine still lacking a lot of cosmetics, and bugs like the one that deletes your buffs if a new player joins your siege, I think this patch needed a pts, and another month in the oven.
>>567982536They kinda fucked themselves by not doing a PTS because releasing the same moment as Skulls was more important apparently.Not to mention they fucked up by releasing the whole Skulls stream on Steam ahead of schedule but nevermind that.
>>567982681I don't want to evoke the bogeyman, but GW probably has a lot of say in what gets released when and where. Mechanicus 2 for example being delayed for example so it coincided with the Skulls event.
Lil Mortyfactorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4RzW5GF5Jw
>>567984770Sweet
>>567984770The boot pattern helped a lot but they still need an arm pattern that allows you to paint the upper arm separately with the hands, and a power pack that lets you color the vents separately from the main pack.
Templars are eatin good 2nite laddies
>>567986934I would immediately assume you're incompetent
>>567985609Literally the only way they could make this not the outright best fist is by making it Balanced defense.
>>567987361I mean it's effectively just a cosmetic effect replacing the power wave with a melta blast. It can be anything.
nvm, i give up on Assaultthe class is just beyond my skill levelI litrerally cannot take it beyond ruthtless
>>567987858Nah surely this replaces your secondary or something? They're not that lame, right?
>>567987137Don't worry, I'd immediately assume the same of you
>>567987936You need to awaken your inner speed demon and hit those sick dodges.https://streamable.com/flchg5?src=player-page-share
i stopped playing because Hard Stratagems were both unfun and filtering meNow i check every now and then a new patch and still can't stick to the game, in fact i find it even worse with a blue triangle nerf on normal weekly even, just fuck my shit up
>>567833916I wish they kept the old one in as well. It was based off of a conversion shown in the older core rule books showing how to do some simple but cool conversions
>>567778769Thanks doc
That grind is absolute bullshit. There's literally no reason they couldn't have made it a retroactive unlock. Still, one down. Six more to go.Siege is going to be truly something to go through to get those ordeals done
>>567993637There is no fucking way you did 100 already.
>>567993637How the fuck,what kind of warp fuckery is this
>>567993637How long did it take to find the incremental counter?
>>567993847Well, I did. If you can find the corresponding address it ain't that difficult. And it's definitely less of a slog than what devs intended. >100 runs per classGive me a break...
>>567994304What datatype is it stored as? x*8+1?
>>567994240You need to complete at least 3-4 runs. 4 is optimal based off my own experience and it still spits out 10+ addresses. I'd just be careful goingall out on editing the values you might clog the mission startup counter, thankfully it's easily corrected.>>567994591That's the formula, yes.
>>567982029Considering there's some retard yapping in your ear the whole time and the final area is a giant arena, yeah
I fucking despise playing the same class back-to-back so I ain't getting any of these 100/100 Absolute completion challenges done anytime soon.
>>567994656haha wow i cant wait to speedrun decap for 2 hours to still not get the right address
>>567994304Nice. I'll be doing the same once I have more time.>100 runs per classI don't know which retard thought this was a good idea to put a fucking CAPE behind this many runs (probably Dmitry). Let's not forget 1000 siege waves for that one ordeal. Insanity.
What class is the easier for an absolute skill issue shitter like me?
>Made siege worse>Then made it mandatory
>>567996956BulwarkLearn how to shield cancel dodge and you're untouchable.
>>567996956This >>567997279 but if you have heroic PF or use some nice fencing PS you will benefit a lot from either while having intimidating aura perk on.
>>567994304at 30 minutes a run, that's 50 hours of play. Even if you could get it down to 20 minutes a run, that's still 33 1/3 hours of play. Have you done nothing but play the game since the patch hit?
>>567997279whnat is the trick?
Can't really tell if i am enjoying the power fist or not100% i am playing it massively wrong
>>567994656>and it still spits out 10+ addressesWhat did you do? Set them all to 100 then do a run?
>neurothrope spawn>99% chance mission fails right on the spotpeople will never figured out how to deal with it
>>567997969Anon... I....>>568003082The other way around actually.
i got stuck here after moving the fallen statue and all of these weird ass artifacts started showing up in my games, what the fuck did saber do
>>568003665I crashed my game lol. Even cheating in this fucking game is a slog.>>568004460known bug wont fix
>>568004786Werks on my machine. You must've edited too many entries. It's difficult to get it at first, but it's manageable. Also make sure you're using the right formula but I'm probably stating the obvious.
>"Hold the line" ordeal>Complete 1000 siege wavesWTF..... what did these krokodil smoking russkies think when they made these requirements?
>>568005819Do you have any other edits or scripts to speed up the process?
We need Wall Anon...
>>567997980You cancel any and all animations by holding the block button, which means whiffed parries and such can't fuck you out of perfect dodging.
So even the best players here are gonna agree getting to Wave 25 Hard Siege is borderline impossible without the sweatiest team going and with all meta picks of Vanguard, Bulwark and Tactical? I can't believe there's a challenge to do this 10 times.
>>567977671the 100% damage sprint attack perk is not broken, it works on all weapons. it allows you to one shot minoris with first or hammer when you also use the +50% sprint attack weapon perk. its really good with axe too. Bulwark has a version of this perk that says it only works on hammer, but it works on all weapons too.
>>568011156They didn't playtest the ordeals, all of the siege stuff needs to be removed
>>568005819We did it chat.
when do weekly strategems reset?
>>568012594wake me when you do it with shitper
>>568012749Sniper will probably be my last.
>bastard ass slavjank game just stopped counting absolute completions towards the xenos hunter gauntletim about to start cheating bros
>>568013316You have to complete ALL missions on Absolute, not just X missions.
>>568007161Wish I could give you more pointers Brother, but it's all very manual. At least when it comes to ordeals editing.>>568012594Very nice!>>568012749I'm starting just now.
>>568012672Wednesday and patch days
>>568016829>lore accurate space marine moment
>>568012594>>568014374Universally panned and they'll bring it down from 100 to like 5
>>568011156If they added Tarantula turrets the Bulwark will get replaced by the Techmarine.Sniper servo gun with either the top right or small area perk would turn every Majoris+ enemies into Swiss cheese.As long as the Tactical and Vanguard do all optional objectives Hard siege can be beatable easily up to wave 20.
>>568017337>If they added Tarantula turretsWait they didnt?
>>568017337Old Siege, yes. New Siege has enemies start scaling in difficulty hard by Wave 15. My Stalker maxed out on headshot damage with the +30% bonus damage blessing was struggling by that point.
>>568017514They did, don't know what he means. You pay for them and they stay active for 5 minutes presuming they don't get mogged.Speaking of, what the FUCK does the Tech Priest do?
>>568017723You have to buy them instead of them being randomly scattered on the map like in Operations.
>>568017723You didn;t get question. Tech marine doesn't have turrets in siege the same way as in operations.
>>568017141Yeah, it was utterly moronic thing to do from the get go.
>>568017938>>568017871Buying them is better, means everybody benefits from them.Honestly, Valtus is pointless as of right now, because the Commissar + Tarantulas does a better job for a third of the price.
Hard siege mode is harder with modifiers>you can reroll once per wave on a negative modifier, it gets shittier and shittier in higher waves and if you think you're getting a terrible deal it'll just roll for an even shittier modifier like no gunstrikes, or absolutely nerfing one of the classes for the entire area>Extremis enemies are stronger now especially Chaos Terminators, they made them shoot rockets and autocannons more often fucking up bolt carbine Vanguards and Snipers>other Terminus bosses save for the Hierophant can and will spawn, enjoy wave 15 with 3 Mutalith Vortex Beasts with Shadow of the Warp
>>568018648You can spot retard who don't even have game installed miles away
>>568018095It's much better having them scattered randomly on the map and having the option of buying turrets as they get destroyed (they will even with maxed out turret perks)
>>568018648They seriously need to adjust the AI of the likes of Terminators so they only use melee at close range, absolute AIDS that they'll spam rockets at close range, or never stop shooting their minigun if you have no option to stagger them.
>>568018648whoever told me you can outstrafe the rotation of the minigun you lied to me
>>568019173>>568019289It's not just the AI, they spawn more of them and they all shoot together in bunches in one direction all at the same time.Saber forgot that the player is a Space Marine, not a Custodes or Grey Knight.Some modifiers also glitch out and freeze the game, lost a wave 12 with decent folks this way. They also failed to remind the player that they can pick a positive modifier before every area and that they can reroll the main negative one once.I've just played with an idiot host who traded random Spore Mines for Squad Unity on the first zone.
>>568018648only one mutalith spawns thoughbeit
>>568020356The Vortex Beast is unironically easier than triple Helbrutes.
>>568019714Squad Unity is fucking nothing compared to Spread Out. On Squad Unity if a retard doesn't know better I can follow him anyway. On Spread Out a retard can sneak up behind you and then you just die.>>567994304I feel like the 100 runs per class isn't as much of an issue as not having any real easily accesible cape outside of the Salamander one. I wouldn't blink twice at there being some gaudy cape for investing tons of time into one character, but when that's the only way to get one (and your wins don't count retroactively fuck you), it fucking stinks.
>>568012749Rise and shine Brother!
desu vanguard was only ever useful as a healstick in siege modesince this game is pretty much done with only cosmetics incoming its main job is to just ensure everyone gets extremis heals he's not even useful as a reinforcement disruptor anymore since everyone rocks the heroic heavy bolt pistolthe ammo version bolt carbine can't magdump a chaos terminator even with constant headshots with one magazine, it actually takes 1.5 magazines to put it into execute rangewithout the extremis heal, the sniper is far more useful now than the vanguard since he can cloak 2 times with a single bolt carbine magdump; precision targeting also ensures extremis and terminus enemies die fasteryou're also guaranteed a free melta bomb every 30 seconds of just headshot magdumpingcloak deaggros enemies allowing you to revive a downed teammatethe best lineup is still a tactical with pyreblaster, vanguard and a shield rush bulwark with the 2sec invulnerability + instant revive banner
They made the bots and Valtus useless in siege mode especially in higher difficulty, the Tactical bot is much more valuable now compared to the Heavy botValtus takes too much time to kill a couple of Majoris enemies on wave 15If you don't bring a Techmarine and he doesn't have enough points for turrets ya'll are fucked
does this game still force you to play with a random if you only have two people in a squad
>>568023564It's had a private mode since like day one.
>>568023696It was not day one.
>>568023869It's as close enough in the grand scheme of things as not mattering considering we're halfway in 2026.
>>567797248>>567807068>shit actually dies when you hit themMan i wish Space Marine 2 was a good game too.
>>567825362I'll never play anything but Lamenters.
>>567825362IMO the damaged armor is a little overboard in the extent of it. Basically this is unusable when piecemealed with other normal cleaner armor pieces, because it'll look weird in how everything is worn in while e.g. your leg is completely destroyed.The left arm looks like it'd be decent on a Carcharadon though.
IDK who these Magma Hounds guys are but they have a cool icon and with some color tweaks make a cool Space Wolves successor.
>>568028723Chaos Space Marines
>>567971604>>567973206>>568008104I'm still here Brothers. No worries, I will be resuming work starting tomorrow.
>>568026851Space marine armor has multiple layers, and a lot of chapters will leave battle damage alone so long as it doesn't cause structural issues with the armor as a badge of honor.Hell, back in 30k the Dark Angels would repaint the damaged part bone white to intentionally draw attention to it and mark it as a grievous wound that the marine was able to tank.
>>567994304Per... class????
>>568031693Yes.
>the grenade launcher will do more damage with kraken penetrator rounds if you unscope before they landThis game is so silly.
>>568032167Sounds about average for a PVE game. Darktide used to have armour-piercing flamethrowers and you can still do shit like switch to a weapon that bleeds enemies before a projectile from your other one that has bigger AoE hits to apply it to more enemies.Hellldivers has so many schizoid mechanics it's not even funny, like weapons dealing more damage if you face a specific cardinal direction or jumping forward adding just enough velocity to your projectiles to hit specific breakpoints on enemies.
Oh shit you guys are back
>>568032627>weapons dealing more damage if you face a specific cardinal directionI've been a day one HD2 schizo and i don't remember that. Care to elaborate?
>>568032627>jumping forward adding just enough velocity to your projectiles to hit specific breakpoints on enemiesThat's some fucking troll science shit.
>>568033546They basically made it so you needed 2000 damage to pop armor leg on a charger. Recoilless rifle had perfect 2000 damage, but their ballistics system made it so you instantly lose 1 damage as soon as the projectile leaves the weapon. So it only did 1999. BUT IF YOU WALKED FORWARD IT GAVE YOU A BIT MORE VELOCITY AND YOU'RE BACK TO 2000!So many fucked up shit like that during release days. Or figuring out that being in a lobby with a playstation player made your railgun ignore armor.
>>568032995There was a period where the Eruptor had shrapnel that did tons of damage but for some reason it ALWAYS went south-west. So if you stood north-east of your target you did tons of damage, but if you stood south-west you did fuck all and you could actually kill yourself with it at close range.
>>568033985FUUUUUCK i forgot about that bullshit. Fucking kek. I love this retarded dumbass swedish game so much.
This thing is getting nerfed, isn't it?
>>568036215Holy kek. I think I'll get that next week. Speed freak chainsword is good fun but that looks hilarious.
>>568036215Yes absolutelyThey nerfed the Pyreblaster too, that one is getting a -25% debuff
>>568037958If they nerf it at all I predict they'll take aim at its ammo capacity. As it is now you can get seven shots out of it before needing an ammo pickup.
Just bulwark and Assault left.
I hate classes that are not able to regen their ammo (besides Bulwark). I hate the fucking ammo economy. I feel like i always have to scrounge around like a bitch and keep myself from shooting as much as i'd like.
>>567797404There's players with maxed out prestige perks that shoot the armored body instead of the Biovores canon.Space Marine players have long surpassed in lore space marines in retardation.
>Mech gives you more secondary missions>But you have to protect him and do the mission>And those missions sometimes dont even give you enough time to finish them>Added a timer to Siege mode, making the above issue worse, and adding an extra level of stress not needed ontop of harder enemies per wave>Took 100 blue coins from the weekly to add it to Siege for no good fucking reason >Introduced new bugs and an even shitter experience overall for siege Whoever is in charge of game design for SM2 is a fucking moron.
>>568044601Russians are evil and stupid.
>>568044601We knew that already.
>>568044816>>568044828Oh and what retard decided to put capes and front fabrics together in the same fucking slot while we're at it. Choosing between the equal options of >A giant cape which is cool and thematic >A tiny piece of cloth over your cock piece
Is there some mass disinformation campaign to convince people that the relic heavy plasma is better than the heroic? Because despite hearing that from multiple people I'm always running out of ammo on the relic variant way before I would with the heroic for marginally better damage.
>level 25 prestige 4 Tactical Xbox player without a team perkThese people are a different breed.
>>568046076Many people, especially on console, aren't actually sentient.
>>568045001Look man you can either be stylish or functional. A cape is cool, but stopping the Sisters from staring at your cock is good for unit cohesion.
>>568046350Women don't exist retard, that's just a myth created by the warp gods to make you stray from the path
>>568046481Tell that to this pious servant of the Emperor.
